WEBVTT - Hall Pass with Aurora Culpo

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<v Speaker 1>Wind Down with Jane Kramer and I'm heart radio podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Friend. Holy Matt, You're not supposed to be here, and

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<v Speaker 2>either is this baby? Why am I still pregnant? So

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<v Speaker 2>last Thursday we had an episode and you texted me saying,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, yeah, you're like, bs, I'm really trying to

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<v Speaker 2>have his baby before you head out of town and

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<v Speaker 2>my husband heads out of town. Well you sew this.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see. So a week ago, a week ago, six

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<v Speaker 2>days ago, I wake up and I'm having contractions every

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<v Speaker 2>three to five minutes, and you thought, did you think

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<v Speaker 2>you're for sure having the baby? Then?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>But I was like, well, I'm not not having a baby,

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<v Speaker 2>you know right. It's like a weird feeling because I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't feel this intense, but it is. And my obi

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<v Speaker 2>was like, you should probably just go into triage have

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<v Speaker 2>him check you out. And she's not a panicker, so

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, hmm, she definitely feels something, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>no dilation. It's like such a defeating feeling. So they

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<v Speaker 2>sent me home, and honestly, I hope somebody can relate

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<v Speaker 2>to this. I feel like a lot of it is

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<v Speaker 2>just the noise and the stress around me and my

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<v Speaker 2>body right now, Like me and my bodies feel really

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<v Speaker 2>good about this baby. The baby and I are like

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<v Speaker 2>in alignment. God loves us. We're ready to rock when

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<v Speaker 2>it's time. There's so many moving pieces around us. Like

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<v Speaker 2>my husband is touring and will he's starting to go

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<v Speaker 2>further away, so he goes to Utah, Denver, New Mexico.

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<v Speaker 2>That feels very far if you're going to have a

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<v Speaker 2>third baby, and it could be quick. Yeah, So just

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<v Speaker 2>gets noisy and I just feel like all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, it's like everyone's like hyper checking in

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<v Speaker 2>on you, tour managers all the things, Like there's like

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<v Speaker 2>three camps of people going. So you feel, how do

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<v Speaker 2>you feel? It's like I've never had such a public

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<v Speaker 2>cervix in all my life, Like can I just publix?

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<v Speaker 2>I just be pregnant and just patiently await a baby.

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<v Speaker 2>But I can't well, I mean, selfishly, it's been I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>can we like have a sea section? You were like

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<v Speaker 2>you were actually I have to share the selfish moment.

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<v Speaker 2>I was texting you and I was like I just

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what's happening, and like there's no dilation. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not I haven't been a water breaker before, so I

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<v Speaker 2>don't anticipate that happening this time, but you never know.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're like, you can elect for a sea section,

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<v Speaker 2>we can have a sea section right now. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, I love you so much. The artist

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't sneak up much, but when it does, well, No,

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<v Speaker 2>my doctor had always like when I was pregnant with Jolie,

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<v Speaker 2>she was like, or you can have the baby at

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<v Speaker 2>thirty nine weeks and do a sea section. Yeah, I haven't.

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<v Speaker 2>I hit thirty nine weeks like today, so it was

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<v Speaker 2>just a little early in my Yeah, it's just really

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<v Speaker 2>been something. Anyways, I was up all night contracting, So

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<v Speaker 2>that's great news, I hope. So most likely, well, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I'm not this is all. This is going to

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<v Speaker 2>actually kind of make me sad. This is the last, man.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not emotionally stable enough for all the last

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lot of last I know, the last time

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<v Speaker 2>being in this house, in this room doing wind down,

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<v Speaker 2>the last time you will I mean the baby, the

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<v Speaker 2>night time you have you do wind down, you'll have

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<v Speaker 2>a baby. This is my last with baby podcasts. I

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<v Speaker 2>got emotional on our last wind down two or two. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I just love it so much. Yeah, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to be gone long. Well you won't, okay alive from

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<v Speaker 2>Centennial Hospital. Can we do that? I'm just kidding you know, ma'am.

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<v Speaker 2>But we were sad to miss you last Thursday. It's

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<v Speaker 2>always uh, and we will be sad to miss you.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't necessarily have to miss too much. No, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean you've known. You were my first call when I

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<v Speaker 2>found out I was pregnant. Love that we get to

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<v Speaker 2>say it out loud. Yeah, this is a really everything

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<v Speaker 2>to me. Oh yeah, if we've really been in it.

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<v Speaker 2>I have FaceTime pictures of you and I both times

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<v Speaker 2>i've been in labor. I really would prefer it if

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<v Speaker 2>it was like in person. Yeah, but we can do

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<v Speaker 2>that again if we have to. When I called you,

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<v Speaker 2>did you what like? What was your first initial when

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<v Speaker 2>I told you that I was pregnant because we never

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<v Speaker 2>got to have like your we got like Catherine's. And

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<v Speaker 2>did you think that I would even though I've told

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<v Speaker 2>I said no to like I wouldn't have another kid?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you think I would have? Yes? I thought you'd

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<v Speaker 2>have another one? Really? Yeah, Alan's handsome and you guys

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<v Speaker 2>just are magic. I mean, and I like it when

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<v Speaker 2>our plans get thrown out the window and God has

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<v Speaker 2>bigger plans, especially for people with our personality type. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you know where I struggle though? And I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get like no, tell me everything. Yeah. So the

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<v Speaker 2>last so Thursday's episode, this before I went back to

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<v Speaker 2>my guy now and because you know, I had that

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<v Speaker 2>hemorrhage or whatever. Yes, I didn't know how much everyone knows. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I told that I was bleeding for the first trimester,

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<v Speaker 2>which was scary awful. Yeah, I mean because that was

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<v Speaker 2>the reason why I didn't want to have another one,

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<v Speaker 2>because I just don't want to go through another miscarriage again.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think so many people relate to that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, it's I even feel it right now,

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<v Speaker 2>Like if I don't feel a baby, right, it's the

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<v Speaker 2>scarcity mentality sticks with you. It's the PTSD, right. So

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<v Speaker 2>the whole like hemorrhage, hemorrhage, hemorrhage thing has been so

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<v Speaker 2>like just like scary, you know. And so what we

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<v Speaker 2>go back and they're like, great news, your hemorrhage is

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<v Speaker 2>down below you know, it's like below two centimeter. She's

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<v Speaker 2>like bad news. And I'm like like why, you know, like,

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<v Speaker 2>can I just have good good news? Can it? Just

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<v Speaker 2>like she's like, you're fibroid. She's like, has like pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much doubled in size. I means that doubled. But she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's one of the on the larger ones we've seen.

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<v Speaker 2>And then don't go to Google because I'm goovering you know,

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<v Speaker 2>large fibroid, you know, with the size of mine, and

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<v Speaker 2>because right now it's at eleven centimeters okay, and like

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<v Speaker 2>a large is like ten to fifteen. And she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>if it keeps growing, we're gonna have She's like, and

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<v Speaker 2>we could already have. She's like, we can have issues.

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<v Speaker 2>We can not have issues. And I'm like, okay, what

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<v Speaker 2>are like because I like to be in the no right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, what are the issues? Like what could happen?

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<v Speaker 2>And She's like explaining all the stuff to me and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, oh my god. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>but then but then the flip side's like or it

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<v Speaker 2>could be fine. So there's nothing they can do, right, No,

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<v Speaker 2>they can't. They can't go in and get it. Now

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<v Speaker 2>what I didn't think and this is what's so great

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<v Speaker 2>that will shrink it? No, I've done like I've looked

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<v Speaker 2>and Google, so like, which so crazy is that I

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<v Speaker 2>I had like stomach pain before I was pregnant and

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<v Speaker 2>I was a little bloated, and so everyone was just like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's your gut, your gut, your gut. So I was

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<v Speaker 2>like doing gut stuff. Well, now, come to find out,

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<v Speaker 2>it's because I have this massive fibroid. Yeah, like huge, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so I should have it would have you should take

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<v Speaker 2>those out before, But I didn't know, Like how would

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<v Speaker 2>I know that I had a fibroid. It's not like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get like ultra sounds on my stomach

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever. So but long story short, I'm just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like, so now when I go do the movie,

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<v Speaker 2>she's making me, not making me, but she's like, you,

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<v Speaker 2>we need to see what this fibroid's doing because it's

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<v Speaker 2>like a blood sucking it'll try to take the placenta.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like if I well, I want I know.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's where I was like starting to struggle. Was

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<v Speaker 2>just like I won't be able to make sense of

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<v Speaker 2>God blessing and then God taking you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I didn't think that this is like I'm this

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<v Speaker 2>is such a miracle, baby anyways, like, how in the

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<v Speaker 2>world did I get pregnant so easy? So it isn't

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<v Speaker 2>on any medicine easy, and like that never happened before.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, you know, having to do the IVFS

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<v Speaker 2>and then this and then that and the like having

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<v Speaker 2>to have the progesterone in my body for the other two.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's why that worked. But I'm like every

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<v Speaker 2>other time i'd lose I'm like, how So it's just

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<v Speaker 2>like it's a lot. So we just need to like

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<v Speaker 2>if anyone has because I'm like a Googling like fiend

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<v Speaker 2>right now, be like, okay, massive fibroids, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>healthy pregnancies, and I just like I don't see any

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<v Speaker 2>forms or anything. So if there's anyone that had a

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<v Speaker 2>very large vibroid right next to your baby when you're pregnant,

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<v Speaker 2>can you please DM me? Because I just want someone.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk to someone about it. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>also liked scary Yeah, and I'd like good story, but

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I want to hear all of it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But also I think there's probably more good stories than

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<v Speaker 2>Google likes to share too. Google sucks Google well for

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of reasons. Where would you like to start

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<v Speaker 2>it is tricky though, Like I do feel like it's

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<v Speaker 2>the noise, Like that's where I got to last week,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I got home from the hospital and I just

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<v Speaker 2>got in a bathtub and I was like, I need

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<v Speaker 2>to shut the door in present's like got it. I

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<v Speaker 2>just feel like we don't even get a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>like listen to our own heart beats because everything is

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<v Speaker 2>like so noisy and so catastrophic, and it can be

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<v Speaker 2>those things. I'm not living in a false reality, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm also like, okay, but also can I just have

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<v Speaker 2>a minute to like remember whose I am? Who gifted

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<v Speaker 2>me this baby, Who's gonna walk me through this baby?

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<v Speaker 2>Because God and I have done a lot of ear

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<v Speaker 2>bending with each other. But that's where I have a

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<v Speaker 2>hard time, because I'm like the babies that like this

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<v Speaker 2>still bursts and the like the myth I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 2>and I can look at it now now having my

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<v Speaker 2>children going Okay, these were I understand, but I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope I will never have to make sense of

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<v Speaker 2>right that I will say this. Do you remember Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know a year It's been over a year

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<v Speaker 2>since I walked the still birth with my friend Ashley

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<v Speaker 2>Micah James. We talked about him on Windown. Little baby

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<v Speaker 2>born at six months in utero, one pound, one ounce,

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<v Speaker 2>precious little man. She had her baby last week. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>I love that, I know, and I have to share

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<v Speaker 2>this because this is really hopeful too. So she and

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<v Speaker 2>I were the only two women in that room that

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<v Speaker 2>walked that together, and we both were due within like

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<v Speaker 2>a day of each other with these babies.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>And she had her sweet little boy, Knox Isaiah, six

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<v Speaker 2>pounds three ounces, like three days before Hermiicah James anniversary.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. See that's like and those stories are amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. And what I said last week is

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I like, I'm done after this. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, oh please, this is where I've been. So

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<v Speaker 2>the four of us can't be together on a podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's where I'm like, please work. No, it's gonna work.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna work. But there's just there's so many like

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<v Speaker 2>and you don't know, there's just never stressors. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just like, oh my god, Like it's like like because

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<v Speaker 2>I just I wouldn't this was this is it? This

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<v Speaker 2>was a one and done. Yeah, you know, it's so

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<v Speaker 2>crazy because I have tried to keep myself in such

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<v Speaker 2>a positive place, but the what ifs are so real. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's the thing is like, you know, we have

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<v Speaker 2>a name for this, babes, and it's like it's so

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<v Speaker 2>you know what it is too, it all matters. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's like I just can't imagine people that, like, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>but I like that, I just could not imagine because

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<v Speaker 2>I've like seen like people like my friends just had

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<v Speaker 2>a still birth, and I'm like, I can't, like I

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<v Speaker 2>can't imagine. I know, but God does walk you not

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<v Speaker 2>trying to be like all niggies, you know what I mean. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I just I walked it with her so

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<v Speaker 2>intimately that I'm just I've just never seen. That was

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<v Speaker 2>the most sacred anointed space I've ever been a part

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<v Speaker 2>of in my entire life. I can't describe how that

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<v Speaker 2>was probably the most the closest to God in the

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<v Speaker 2>thinnest place I've ever been in my life. Hmm. And

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<v Speaker 2>there and that baby didn't cry. Oh it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just I know, but it does. Matt. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like He will just never bring us somewhere he

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<v Speaker 2>can't get us through. Yeah, he just won't look at us. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>holy shit, look at us right, Yeah, for sure, And

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<v Speaker 2>I know everything always like I think it's just like,

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<v Speaker 2>well also early, you know, second try master, it's just scary.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's a I well, also, you love you're

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<v Speaker 2>a good moms. If you were like, yeah, give or take,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I'd be really questioning, you know, like this

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<v Speaker 2>is a you love your people so well, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's fair to be scared. We just have to go

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<v Speaker 2>one day at a time. I know, I text this

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<v Speaker 2>to you the other day, but I was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>think for our people specifically, we love like a plan,

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<v Speaker 2>we love. We just love to know a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people do. But like the things that make us stay

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<v Speaker 2>inside of a minute before it pushes us to another

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<v Speaker 2>minute are really a gift to our type are a

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<v Speaker 2>type personalities. Yeah, so this baby's making you do that, right,

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<v Speaker 2>It's just would be nice to not have to like yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, but you know again, I know abid fight, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but I also know how fortunate I am to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to be pregnant and how people you know are

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<v Speaker 2>not are struggling and going. So it's like I also

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<v Speaker 2>see that side too, So I feel very fortunate. You

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<v Speaker 2>can hold both. Yeah, I can be grateful and have

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<v Speaker 2>a little grief, yeah and the yeah. So yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, so far everything's great. It's just hopefully fibroid

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<v Speaker 2>gets it doesn't grow anymore. So if it stays the same,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll probably have pre term labor, is what she said. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so they would just but you'd see section anyway. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but the thing is like, you want to catch it

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<v Speaker 2>before that promption. So okay, staying inside the minute, staying

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<v Speaker 2>inside the minute and stay and so I lets talk

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<v Speaker 2>to a supermodel today.

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<v Speaker 1>I walked in.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, I'm dressed like a gangster wrapper

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<v Speaker 2>because that's the portion of the program. I can't even

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<v Speaker 2>wear any tight fitting cute maternity col But I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to find was was she the one we talked about?

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<v Speaker 2>So it's Olivia Colpo's sister, But was this the one

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<v Speaker 2>that was married that hap yeah? Or is this was

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<v Speaker 2>she the one that gave the hall pass? But then wait,

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<v Speaker 2>oh it is her? Okay, great. Hannah's like, yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder do you think it's something where we can talk

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<v Speaker 2>about that. I don't want to be like rude, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's also she put it out there. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>how many people ask you you put out there? I

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<v Speaker 2>know she know what podcast she's coming up. Listen, Aurora, listen.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, I'm excited to she's got any podcast coming out,

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<v Speaker 2>so that'll be I'm interested to hear all about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's take a break and get her on. I'm jan

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Kristen him. All right, girl, So I have to

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<v Speaker 2>start with and if it's okay, So we actually covered

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<v Speaker 2>something that was on y'all show because with this podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we've talked a lot about infidelity and marriages obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>like we talked about like my divorce and because he

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<v Speaker 2>had some affairs, and and then we talked about how

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<v Speaker 2>on your show you basically said you gave your now

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<v Speaker 2>ex husband right a hall pass, And so we discussed

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<v Speaker 2>it and I'm like, listen, like for me, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't. I could never do it all pass. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean just because for me that trust is so important

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<v Speaker 2>in a relationship. And so when doing a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of research now seeing that you are divorced, do you

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<v Speaker 2>think that trust peace was the kind of nail that

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<v Speaker 2>just killed it all? Welcome to wind Down? Yeah, sorry, welcome,

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome were jump right into it.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I was excited actually to be on your podcast

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like you and I kind of have

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<v Speaker 1>that in common where it's like I really have no

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<v Speaker 1>shame in my game in terms of like I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassed to talk about the things that have happened that

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to work through that you know, some of

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't work, some of it did work, and hopefully,

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<v Speaker 1>if nothing else, like people can learn from it. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting that you phrase it like that. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>trust thing because the whole reason why I gave him

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<v Speaker 1>that like hall paths, which we called it a one

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<v Speaker 1>a year. So when I met him, I had come

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<v Speaker 1>out of this relationship, well I thought it was a relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>It turns out I was like the side piece who

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<v Speaker 1>thought she was the girlfriend and this guy was an

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<v Speaker 1>MLB player and was basically having a girlfriend in a

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<v Speaker 1>different city. And I think when I came out of that,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of had this. And to be quite honest,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if if if I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>I still don't believe this, but I felt like men

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<v Speaker 1>are wired evolutionarily to want to spread their seed far

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<v Speaker 1>and wide, and so for them to be in a

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<v Speaker 1>monogamous relationship. I wasn't really sure if it's if it

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<v Speaker 1>was possible, and if it was possible, are they are

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<v Speaker 1>they happy? Are they living in their in their like

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<v Speaker 1>true self? So I felt like what we had was

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<v Speaker 1>so special and that if a man needs some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sexual escapade, you know, or the freedom to feel

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<v Speaker 1>like he is allowed to do that, then that wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>interfere with what we had because it's just sex. So

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<v Speaker 1>and for me, I felt like I didn't need that,

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<v Speaker 1>But if he did, who want to tell him not

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<v Speaker 1>to explore that as long as I'm the one who

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to be life partners with. So I said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're allowed once a year to have sex with somebody else.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't roll over, You can't. It can't be anybody

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<v Speaker 1>we know. You can't keep in contact with them. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to use protection. If there's any kind of emotional feeling,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have to be upfront about it. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to know about it because I had a

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<v Speaker 1>feeling that I, you know, I would have feelings about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought that by giving him and he our

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<v Speaker 1>agreement was that well, what he had said to me

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<v Speaker 1>is like just having that freedom, knowing that, like if

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<v Speaker 1>I go on a trip or if I'm out, just

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that I have the freedom to possibly connect with

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else in this way, you know, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to use it. And he didn't use it.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't use it for like eight years, and they

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<v Speaker 1>ended up using it when I was pregnant with our

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<v Speaker 1>second child after COVID, when our relationship was already like

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<v Speaker 1>on the rocks for so many other reasons, and of

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<v Speaker 1>course somebody DMed me and they were like, just so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like your husband slept with blah blah blah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they gave me the full rundown on like everything

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<v Speaker 1>they did. And I'm like, you know, when somebody describes

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<v Speaker 1>sex with your husband, like you know that that's I

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<v Speaker 1>knew it was true, and I confronted him about it

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<v Speaker 1>and he lied any gas lit me and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you keep if you keep digging, if

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<v Speaker 1>you keep X, Y and Z, then like it's over.

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<v Speaker 1>And this we had already been in therapy at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>just for other reasons that we had grown apart, and

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<v Speaker 1>so people think that our divorce was because he, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>took advantage of this freedom that I gave him, but

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<v Speaker 1>actually it's not at all like the I didn't like

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<v Speaker 1>that he lied to me after, and of course he

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<v Speaker 1>said like, oh, well, you weren't supposed to know. He

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<v Speaker 1>told me not to tell you. You know, when somebody

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<v Speaker 1>wants you to be honest and they're asking for honesty

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<v Speaker 1>and you're not giving it, and then you're making kind

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<v Speaker 1>of an excuse that's very convenient for you to not

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<v Speaker 1>be honest that you know that, that definitely was did

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<v Speaker 1>not make me feel good. So when I ended up

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<v Speaker 1>finding out, and you know you always do, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like being serious, like a detective, and I

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<v Speaker 1>ended up putting out in some like encrypted message system.

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<v Speaker 1>I never looked through his phone our entire li relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>but I did this one time and I ended up

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<v Speaker 1>finding out about it, and he and so he admitted it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, okay, well, I thought i'd be okay

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<v Speaker 1>with it when I made the agreement with our relationship

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<v Speaker 1>was so strong. I don't know if I would have

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<v Speaker 1>been okay with it then, but like at this point

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<v Speaker 1>in time, I'm not okay with it anymore. And it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a freedom he was willing to give up, and

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<v Speaker 1>he mostly was upset that I had changed my mind

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<v Speaker 1>about everything, and then we ended up, and then we

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<v Speaker 1>went therapy for a year, and we ended up calling

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<v Speaker 1>it quits with our marriage, not because of the one year,

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<v Speaker 1>but basically just because of like I was no longer

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of person that would that, well, I no

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<v Speaker 1>longer yeah yeah, and he and he was upset that

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<v Speaker 1>I had changed my mind because honestly, he had been this.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the same person he was when I met him,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not so I really don't hold any resentment

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<v Speaker 1>towards him about that, and if anything, he's resembled towards

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<v Speaker 1>me for changing my mind, and then also now kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sharing our story in a way that I think

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<v Speaker 1>he was a little surprised that people didn't look kindly

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<v Speaker 1>on that. And people call it cheating, and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you told everybody I cheated on you, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I actually never did. I sent me in

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<v Speaker 1>an agreement with you. You took advantage of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not okay with it anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>And it is interesting though, that like, you can change

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<v Speaker 2>your mind, but he is not allowed to change, like

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't use it for so long. So he also

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<v Speaker 2>changed his mind actually, and it's okay that it didn't

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<v Speaker 2>like it's very that's very gas lady.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I also he said he started using it because, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I had one baby breasted him for fifteen months.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't sleep for the whole freaking year. I was

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<v Speaker 1>like up and down with my moods from my hormones,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had got pregnant with another baby was covid.

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<v Speaker 1>I was breastfeeding her and like he was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not giving me sex. You know, that's like always

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. You're not giving me enough sex. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>and sorry, I was once a week, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>like the like it wasn't like passionate love sex. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like we got in this cycle of like me

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<v Speaker 1>feeling guilt tripped into having sex and it's just not

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't working.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, well, I also want to affirm you too

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<v Speaker 2>and just say, like, I hope his gas lighting of

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<v Speaker 2>making you feel like it's your fault, that it's not

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<v Speaker 2>your fault. I hope you can like let that like

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<v Speaker 2>that you know that it's first of all, it's one

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<v Speaker 2>million percent okay that you're not comfortable with your husband

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<v Speaker 2>sleeping with somebody else and that you know you ended

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<v Speaker 2>up not wanting that in your marriage. That is one

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<v Speaker 2>million percent okay. So I hope his gas lighting of well,

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<v Speaker 2>you've changed you you you you you doesn't think in well,

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<v Speaker 2>if I would have only done this, like we would

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<v Speaker 2>be happy and I'd be married, and like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you don't carry his gaslighting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I feel okay about it. Like I take

0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:09.000
<v Speaker 1>full responsibility for my part in that. You know, I

0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:11.240
<v Speaker 1>did give him the impression that this was something I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be okay with, and I did. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I felt bad for a while about like changing

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<v Speaker 1>my mind. But now that we're you know, we're like

0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:21.400
<v Speaker 1>almost two years into this divorce. That's like the never

0:23:21.480 --> 0:23:23.960
<v Speaker 1>ending divorce. I actually, on June ninth, I have to

0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:26.800
<v Speaker 1>move out of this house. Every day after I stay,

0:23:26.840 --> 0:23:28.720
<v Speaker 1>I owe him a thousand dollars or I like really

0:23:28.720 --> 0:23:31.159
<v Speaker 1>need to move out. Like after this, I'm gonna like

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<v Speaker 1>start moving stuff into my storage unit. I'm like living

0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:37.960
<v Speaker 1>in the most tellish limbo right now. But I feel

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<v Speaker 1>very good about I just know that we're I feel

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<v Speaker 1>I believe in soul contracts. I believe we've meant to

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<v Speaker 1>have our children together. He's a great father. I'm happy

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<v Speaker 1>to do like this partnership with him. It would really

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<v Speaker 1>suck if I had to speak to somebody every day

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<v Speaker 1>who I can't stand. I have a lot of love

0:23:53.800 --> 0:23:57.119
<v Speaker 1>for him, but I don't don't I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be in a partnership with him. He's just not my person.

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<v Speaker 1>Nuts damn sure.

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<v Speaker 2>So next relationship, what do you want? And do you

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<v Speaker 2>still think that men have to have because I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I'm just like I mean, I've obviously been through

0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:19.080
<v Speaker 2>the ringer with the x is, but I still believe,

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<v Speaker 2>like I believe my fiance when he says he's never

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<v Speaker 2>going to be with another I do. I believe him

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<v Speaker 2>he's never going to be inappropriate with another woman. And

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<v Speaker 2>like I get people to say, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people that have that same thing, like men are not

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to just be with one woman like that, you know,

0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:39.240
<v Speaker 2>monogamy is not normal and whatever they say, But I

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<v Speaker 2>just I don't know, Like I know it's hard, I

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<v Speaker 2>know it's stale and stuff, but I still just think

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<v Speaker 2>like there's they're not that someone can be faithful.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, And I have a lot of respect for

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<v Speaker 1>you with your story and your and you're with your ex,

0:24:54.560 --> 0:24:58.080
<v Speaker 1>because I think it is a lot of there's this

0:24:58.960 --> 0:25:01.720
<v Speaker 1>there's kind of this CULTU now of just like oh

0:25:01.720 --> 0:25:04.119
<v Speaker 1>it's hard, let's move on, like let's give up. And

0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:09.200
<v Speaker 1>I do believe in trying, but I also believe in

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<v Speaker 1>really like listening to your gut and your body. And

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I do think when we know it's time to

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<v Speaker 1>move on, we have a responsibility to do so. And

0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:20.920
<v Speaker 1>like I said, like I believe in soul contracts, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think sometimes those contracts can totally be for a

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<v Speaker 1>lifetime and sometimes not. And if you're with a partner

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<v Speaker 1>who is growing with you, and you guys are are

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<v Speaker 1>committed to checking in with each other and being on

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<v Speaker 1>the same page and really trying to build a life

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<v Speaker 1>where you are mutually helping each other's evolution, then for

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<v Speaker 1>sure that can last a lifetime. It's not easy, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that most people can do it well.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have faith that you will because I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you've done a lot of work and you've you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you've been through the trials.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you. But for you, though, like what is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be like do you want to get married again?

0:25:59.840 --> 0:26:02.160
<v Speaker 2>Like do you what would you tell your new husband?

0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:04.280
<v Speaker 2>Like what what? What's your stance? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I'm on hingin Ryah right now. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I started. Oh, it's like literally and.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think about Rya because I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>it's just like model boy, model boy, model boy, and

0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:20.199
<v Speaker 2>they all like no, I mean the area is like

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<v Speaker 2>whatever I mean I met I didn't meet my fans

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<v Speaker 2>on Riya, but I mean like he lived in England

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<v Speaker 2>when I met him. But it was like all these

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<v Speaker 2>people on RYA are like not from anywhere close.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I know, they're like just they're like

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be in La for like twenty days, like want

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<v Speaker 1>to meet up for coffee. I'm like why, and then

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<v Speaker 1>back to Brazil. I'm not having luck. I'm not gonna lie.

0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:45.560
<v Speaker 1>I started talking to one guy, funny enough, he was

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<v Speaker 1>from England too, and I ended up like finding out

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<v Speaker 1>that he lied about his age and by like three

0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:54.399
<v Speaker 1>years and my ex was fifteen years older than me.

0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm not afraid of an older person. So just

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<v Speaker 1>to start off with a lie, and to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to lie so effortlessly and about something so trivial, like

0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:07.960
<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, this is not a foundation I

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:10.960
<v Speaker 1>need to start with The other guy started talking to me,

0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:13.960
<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, I've been in polygamist relationships. I've been

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:16.679
<v Speaker 1>in blah blah blah. And I told him about my situation.

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:18.520
<v Speaker 1>She's like, it sounds like you were in a polygamoust

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<v Speaker 1>relationship too, and I'm like maybe I was, but like yeah,

0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean I would love to get married again. I

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<v Speaker 1>would love to have like some kind of a blend

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:34.840
<v Speaker 1>family that that's like a dream of mine. Right now,

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:37.600
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm in such a I just know

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<v Speaker 1>that what I'm attracting is instability in another person, or

0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:45.639
<v Speaker 1>like I'm seeking a person to try to make my

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<v Speaker 1>life more stable because it has been just so okay.

0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 1>We've been nesting in one house, like he's been at

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:56.119
<v Speaker 1>our other house in Palm Springs while I'm here so

0:27:56.160 --> 0:27:58.000
<v Speaker 1>that we don't have to uproove with the kids. And

0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 1>now I'm gonna be renting when I keep like losing

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:03.920
<v Speaker 1>the It's like if my life is just very chaotic

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 1>where I just don't see me attracting anything functional at

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 1>the moment, I would love to get to a place

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<v Speaker 1>where I feel so grounded in myself and like just

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<v Speaker 1>really like in love with myself and so I can

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:18.480
<v Speaker 1>attract I just know that I'm not going to attract

0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 1>that until I get there myself. So do I want

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<v Speaker 1>it to happen Dune, Yes, I'm going to have to

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<v Speaker 1>make some serious changes because I don't know. The wine

0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:29.600
<v Speaker 1>every night is not doing it for me.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's a season, Like, don't be hard on yourself either,

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:35.560
<v Speaker 2>because there is a season, and space matters, like you're

0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:37.400
<v Speaker 2>not even you don't even have your own home home

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:40.480
<v Speaker 2>right now, All of that matters. You can't settle a

0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 2>soul when you can't even you know, you have to

0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 2>settle inside some walls too. Yeah, And I think for

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 2>sure the awareness that you have too is great because

0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:49.840
<v Speaker 2>I remember when I got divorced, I just thought it

0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 2>was like his issues and like not mine. So I

0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 2>just was like straight into a relationship and like the

0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:58.239
<v Speaker 2>first person that like told me, I was pretty like

0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:01.320
<v Speaker 2>fell you know, fell into and then you realize, like

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 2>there is work to do. But also like I always

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:07.480
<v Speaker 2>equated happiness like in a relationship. So if I was

0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:09.520
<v Speaker 2>in a relationship, that means I'm happy. If I wasn't,

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:12.000
<v Speaker 2>then if I wasn't a relationship, that means that I'm

0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:15.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, not lovable or I wasn't happy, so like

0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:18.040
<v Speaker 2>I had to get to a place where I loved myself,

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:20.240
<v Speaker 2>happy with myself, and then that's when it found. But

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 2>it took, you know a little over a year to

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:26.240
<v Speaker 2>I love myself and like you know, and that's sitting

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:31.040
<v Speaker 2>with yourself and doing some hard work, you know. But

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:35.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean you'll you will find like that person that

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:38.200
<v Speaker 2>will love you and that will not I know it's

0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 2>out there because I've found it. I know I did.

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<v Speaker 1>Sweet whenever, like you find something that really works and

0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:47.080
<v Speaker 1>you just like want to convince the other person. It's

0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:49.120
<v Speaker 1>like I promise it's it's there. It's there. It's like

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 1>you can you can you can lead a horse to water,

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:53.720
<v Speaker 1>but you can't make it drink. Like I feel like, yeah,

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 1>we all need to like get there when when we're ready,

0:29:56.760 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 1>and and I do. I don't know if you found

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 1>it a little different, but like since I do have

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<v Speaker 1>two kids, I have a two and a four year old,

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm not like I remember my old self always being

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 1>like I need the guy. I want to have the kids.

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 1>I want to have the white picket fence. Like I

0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of been there, done that, and like I have

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 1>my kids. I always wanted to be a mother. I'm

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 1>so happy to be a mother. But I don't really

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 1>feel that timeline pressure anymore of like finding somebody to

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:27.760
<v Speaker 1>be the guy to have the perfect life with. So

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 1>it's almost like, I don't I feel kind of content

0:30:32.240 --> 0:30:36.680
<v Speaker 1>in just if you're not, if you're not making my

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:40.240
<v Speaker 1>life more magical in some way, then then I'm really

0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to force it.

0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's a thing like one thousand percent. I was

0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:44.920
<v Speaker 2>the same way. I'm like, I have two kids, I

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 2>don't need any more kids. And it was not because

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:50.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, why would I settle to be in something

0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:53.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be. I will not be miserable

0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:55.600
<v Speaker 2>again in relationships and like why would I settle? Like

0:30:55.640 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 2>I got me and my kids, like I'm good, I

0:30:57.600 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 2>got my friends like happy. So yeah, if the settling

0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:03.240
<v Speaker 2>aspect is like I was, like, I will never go

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:05.560
<v Speaker 2>back to that because I don't have that like ticking

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:07.720
<v Speaker 2>right time I'm like, oh my god, I need to

0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:08.720
<v Speaker 2>have kids or you know.

0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:10.960
<v Speaker 1>And you know what I feel. It makes me feel

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:17.240
<v Speaker 1>so so sad because I'm like I'm able to afford

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:21.080
<v Speaker 1>a single life and a lot of women just aren't

0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 1>like they like, especially if they have kids and if

0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 1>their ex like doesn't make any money to pay child

0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:29.479
<v Speaker 1>support and they're not making enough on their own. Like

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:32.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking for rentals right now, like within a ten

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:35.000
<v Speaker 1>mile radius of where my ex lives, like court ordered,

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:37.840
<v Speaker 1>and it is so expensive to live here. I live

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:40.880
<v Speaker 1>in LA I mean, I don't know how anybody who

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:44.760
<v Speaker 1>isn't making good money can afford to not be in

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:47.880
<v Speaker 1>a partnership like they would. Probably that's probably like half

0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 1>the reason why these women are staying with men that

0:31:50.760 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 1>they don't love, because they can't live without that half

0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:54.920
<v Speaker 1>the income.

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:58.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that's so true. I remember, like, you know,

0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:01.959
<v Speaker 2>I'll dm with a few girls that have you know,

0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:05.080
<v Speaker 2>reached out, and that's like the number one thing they say.

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:07.400
<v Speaker 2>They're like, I don't have like the resources or the

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:09.480
<v Speaker 2>money to get out, And I'm just like, oh, like that,

0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Like it breaks my heart for them, because I never

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 2>want anyone to like be in a situation where they

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 2>they feel stuck and trapped and they can't get out

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:20.040
<v Speaker 2>because they can't afford it or And that's just like

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:23.080
<v Speaker 2>I was trying to do something like with Krista and

0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:25.520
<v Speaker 2>we actually just talked about the other day, like something

0:32:25.600 --> 0:32:29.120
<v Speaker 2>some kind of like single moms like charity where it's

0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:31.280
<v Speaker 2>like we can help like a mom, like here's rental

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 2>rent for so many months or whatever the anpony is, Like.

0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 1>It is a really good idea actually, Like they say

0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:41.120
<v Speaker 1>in I think it's like the Scandinavian countries. There it's

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:44.120
<v Speaker 1>very common for them to live in communes and they

0:32:44.120 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 1>actually report like happier lifestyles. And we had something like that,

0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:50.600
<v Speaker 1>like it's just like, you know, have a bunch of

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 1>rich people donate and then buy some kind of a

0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 1>commune and it's like a place for moms and kids

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 1>to go and live to when they're like in a

0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 1>transitional period and they afford, you know, to live on

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:04.760
<v Speaker 1>their own, but they're there, and I mean some of

0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 1>these situations are abusive, you know. It's not just like

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:10.400
<v Speaker 1>oh I'm not happy in my marriage, which I feel

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 1>like is reason enough to not stick around.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, guys, throws in Scaniz and I'm Eric Winter and

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:29.920
<v Speaker 3>together we host that, he said Aadijo podcast. Yes, after

0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:33.600
<v Speaker 3>eighteen years together fifteen married, we still disagree about a

0:33:33.680 --> 0:33:36.120
<v Speaker 3>lot of things, but we do it with much more

0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:39.440
<v Speaker 3>right Eric, Yes, dear, whatever you say. I mean, sometimes

0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:41.040
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna be a dream pupper.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, here we go again.

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:43.920
<v Speaker 3>But I love the way we can be open and

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 3>honest with each other. Yeah, maybe a little too much,

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:48.960
<v Speaker 3>but that's what people like, a real couple going through

0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:54.640
<v Speaker 3>real things. Well, when we're not disagreeing slash arguing, we

0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:58.840
<v Speaker 3>definitely chat with some fascinating people actors, musicians, life coaches,

0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 3>marriage experts. We definitely need those.

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:02.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh God.

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:06.680
<v Speaker 3>Anyways, we love our listeners and they've been so supportive

0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:09.440
<v Speaker 3>through the years, so we must be doing something completely right.

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 3>More listen to he said a yadio as a part

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:15.680
<v Speaker 3>of my coael Tura Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:17.960
<v Speaker 3>podcasts or whatever. You listen to podcasts.

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:25.279
<v Speaker 2>So you have a podcast now, I do, Yeah, I

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:26.440
<v Speaker 2>tell us everything about it.

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<v Speaker 1>One of my good friends. Yeah, it's called Barely Filter.

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<v Speaker 1>It's with my good friend Kristin, and she she looks

0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:34.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of like that, Kristin.

0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean we're copy paste. Yeah, she just had a baby.

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:40.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm getting ready to have a baby on this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to ask because you never asked that question.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm like, she looks round in these.

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<v Speaker 2>Macrol This is the most round one can look in

0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:51.520
<v Speaker 2>the sense like we're literally thirty nine weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and having a boy or girl.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not find She didn't know either, And do you

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<v Speaker 1>have other kids? Yeah?

0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:00.200
<v Speaker 2>I have a boy and a girl. So this is

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:00.760
<v Speaker 2>the type breaker.

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, she had two boys and she didn't. I think

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:04.719
<v Speaker 1>they didn't want to find out because it's to be

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 1>so disappointed if they had another boy and it ended

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:08.320
<v Speaker 1>up being a girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Statistically, that's like not like normal, Like right,

0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:14.120
<v Speaker 2>isn't it hired to have, Like like Nicole's kid is

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 2>like a third boy? Isn't that usually how it works?

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I know families with five girls. I

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:19.840
<v Speaker 1>know families with five boys.

0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:35:20.280 --> 0:35:22.120
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I lucked out with one beach.

0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:25.880
<v Speaker 2>But okay, so your podcast is with her barely filtered.

0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and and we talk about we talk about pretty

0:35:29.239 --> 0:35:32.719
<v Speaker 1>much everything. It's everything's very unfiltered. Talk a lot about

0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:36.239
<v Speaker 1>relationship stuff. She's happily married. She's kind of like one

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 1>of those She's in one of those marriages where you

0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:41.360
<v Speaker 1>just want to like geg because they're so like she

0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:44.400
<v Speaker 1>like meet dangles him all over the internet, he's super hot,

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:47.760
<v Speaker 1>and we joke because she's like, she's like his six

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:50.560
<v Speaker 1>packs rubbing up against my pregnant belly, and I'm like,

0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I've ever slept with a guy with

0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:53.879
<v Speaker 1>a six pack, Like I need to be the hotter one.

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:56.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to. I don't want anybody who's like

0:35:56.320 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 1>making me feel like I need to go to the gym.

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, we talk about every thing. We talk about health.

0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:04.200
<v Speaker 1>We have a lot of guests on who are specialists

0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:10.919
<v Speaker 1>around like fertility moones, like diet stuff, glucose, a lot

0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:13.640
<v Speaker 1>of kind of like spirituality aspects. We have some people

0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:18.880
<v Speaker 1>who went through big traumas and talk about dealing with grief. Uh.

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:22.280
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it's funny, sometimes it's sad. We laugh, we cry.

0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 2>We were crying right before you came on.

0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Literally really yeah, yeah, you never know. You have to

0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:31.840
<v Speaker 1>wear your water to proof mascara to recordings just in case.

0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:36.520
<v Speaker 2>I love that. I love the title too, because I

0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:40.680
<v Speaker 2>love that you're open. But I'm curious, are you How

0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:43.520
<v Speaker 2>are you with the headlines of things and comments and

0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:47.879
<v Speaker 2>people because you have a public family. You're like one

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:49.560
<v Speaker 2>of five siblings.

0:36:49.120 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, yeah, I mean I feel like I've dealt

0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:57.319
<v Speaker 1>with it naturally. I've dealt with it a little better

0:36:57.360 --> 0:36:59.319
<v Speaker 1>than some of my sisters have, just in terms of

0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:03.000
<v Speaker 1>different backlash of things that go on in our lives.

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:07.479
<v Speaker 1>I honestly, I think I probably just engaged too much.

0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm that person who's like fighting with Joshmo and

0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:15.759
<v Speaker 1>Minnesota because like that, and especially when when there was

0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:18.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of like hot politic topics, I feel like

0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 1>I was always kind of on the verge of being

0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:23.560
<v Speaker 1>canceled because like, I'm pretty open about my beliefs about things,

0:37:24.880 --> 0:37:27.319
<v Speaker 1>and they don't always align with a lot of like

0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:29.680
<v Speaker 1>the the culture in.

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<v Speaker 2>LA Like give us one, what's what's an example of that?

0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Because I want to get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the most recent thing that I got that I

0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:41.319
<v Speaker 1>that turned into a huge thing was I I don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe it is ethically or morally sound to to give

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:49.720
<v Speaker 1>a child any kind of drug that's going to change

0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:53.000
<v Speaker 1>their body or when they're young. Like I'm all towards

0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:55.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm all about like transitioning as an adult, but I

0:37:55.160 --> 0:37:57.719
<v Speaker 1>actually think it's criminal that parents are are giving their

0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:00.920
<v Speaker 1>kids things that are helping them transit when their brains

0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 1>aren't even fully developed and people kind of I think

0:38:04.600 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 1>people a lot of times are like they're hearing what

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:11.080
<v Speaker 1>they want to hear, and they're hearing me basically say, oh,

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:15.520
<v Speaker 1>she's anti trans and she's not supporting people who want

0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:18.920
<v Speaker 1>to change their gender or their sexuality, which is not

0:38:19.000 --> 0:38:22.120
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. But like, I'm entitled to my opinion,

0:38:22.320 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 1>especially with regard to children, and also just like having

0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:28.000
<v Speaker 1>the kids wear masks and schools. I was very much

0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:30.799
<v Speaker 1>against that, and that was people did not like that.

0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:33.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have my I.

0:38:33.239 --> 0:38:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Have my views on birth control. I would think birth

0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:39.399
<v Speaker 1>control is fine. I think I think and Kristen's very

0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:44.800
<v Speaker 1>anti birth control. Like our our views are very different

0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 1>in most things. Actually, like she's pretty extreme and I'm

0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:50.439
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more middle of the road.

0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:54.799
<v Speaker 2>But wait, what's review on birth control? In what's hers?

0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:57.680
<v Speaker 1>She's very anti birth control, she thinks, and we actually

0:38:57.680 --> 0:38:58.960
<v Speaker 1>have a guest coming on too, and who's going to

0:38:59.000 --> 0:39:01.400
<v Speaker 1>talk more about birth and and basically she says that

0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 1>it's like it changes women more than we know, and

0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:10.520
<v Speaker 1>that it's just really bad for you, that it messes

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<v Speaker 1>with your like potential fertility and and your brain.

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<v Speaker 2>Were you on it? Were you on birth control, No, ma'am,

0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:24.120
<v Speaker 2>so I never. I never took birth control either, even

0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:27.680
<v Speaker 2>though I have, oh you have, Oh yes, I was

0:39:27.760 --> 0:39:30.400
<v Speaker 2>never on birth control. Oh I was on birth control.

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:31.080
<v Speaker 2>I was just like a.

0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Big fan of it, Like it made my skin clear. Crazy.

0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:36.760
<v Speaker 2>So the pill made me crazy.

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:37.440
<v Speaker 1>I U D.

0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:39.759
<v Speaker 2>I did do IUD for a while. Yeah, it made

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:42.279
<v Speaker 2>me nuts. In between, I'm not saying don't go on

0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:44.880
<v Speaker 2>you know people out there, but I'm just yeah, it

0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:48.520
<v Speaker 2>made me nuts. Yeah, I went crazy, and we don't

0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:50.799
<v Speaker 2>need to be any more crazy, so no, I.

0:39:50.760 --> 0:39:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Know, Yeah, for me, I think it actually made me

0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:55.000
<v Speaker 1>less crazy. I don't know if it had any long

0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:57.719
<v Speaker 1>term effects, like maybe I'd be a better version of

0:39:57.760 --> 0:39:59.640
<v Speaker 1>myself now had I never been on it. But my

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:03.200
<v Speaker 1>thing is like she also like muckerdoses mushrooms and she

0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:05.360
<v Speaker 1>smokes weed, and I'm like, okay, how are you okay

0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:07.840
<v Speaker 1>with that stuff? Because it's like, you know, it's like

0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:11.040
<v Speaker 1>fringe medicine, but you're not okay with like like sometimes

0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like you're just you're just picking a side

0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 1>to pick a side, like you just want to be contrary.

0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:17.520
<v Speaker 2>But I think that's like America right now though, like

0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:19.719
<v Speaker 2>everyone just like picks aside and digs their heels in.

0:40:19.840 --> 0:40:22.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, it doesn't even have to be this polarizing.

0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:24.799
<v Speaker 2>We could just actually listen to each other and like

0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:26.480
<v Speaker 2>hear what we have to say, and that would be

0:40:26.520 --> 0:40:29.560
<v Speaker 2>okay too. Remember those days when we used to all

0:40:29.600 --> 0:40:31.239
<v Speaker 2>do that? Yeah?

0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:32.120
<v Speaker 1>What was it? I said?

0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:33.719
<v Speaker 2>Do you remember the days when we all used to do that,

0:40:33.800 --> 0:40:36.000
<v Speaker 2>like actually hear each other and have a conversation instead

0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:37.600
<v Speaker 2>of it being like like listen.

0:40:37.400 --> 0:40:40.800
<v Speaker 1>With the intent to understand, not to respond, and also

0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:45.320
<v Speaker 1>like not just yes, I totally I'm one thousand percent

0:40:45.640 --> 0:40:47.920
<v Speaker 1>This girl, Africa Brooks. I don't know if you've heard

0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:51.160
<v Speaker 1>of her, but that's her whole shick that like everybody

0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:56.920
<v Speaker 1>is afraid to speak or to be curious about something

0:40:57.000 --> 0:40:59.719
<v Speaker 1>without with the fear of offending somebody. Like I was

0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:02.520
<v Speaker 1>just on a trip and there were two there were

0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:05.920
<v Speaker 1>a couple, two dads and they have three kids, and

0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:07.840
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I was like, Okay, this is probably

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:09.880
<v Speaker 1>the stupidest question, and I hope it's not not offensive,

0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:12.080
<v Speaker 1>but I'm just so curious. I'm like, how do you

0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:16.399
<v Speaker 1>know what which kid the dad's calling? Like if they

0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:18.319
<v Speaker 1>call you both dad and they're like, there are no

0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:21.400
<v Speaker 1>stupid questions, and I applaud you for for like asking me.

0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:23.880
<v Speaker 1>I feel like people sometimes just like don't say anything,

0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:26.600
<v Speaker 1>which is more awkward. It's like we should feel free

0:41:26.719 --> 0:41:29.279
<v Speaker 1>to ask our silly questions because we haven't all had

0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:30.320
<v Speaker 1>the same life experience.

0:41:30.440 --> 0:41:32.040
<v Speaker 2>Right, what did they say? Because now I'm curious.

0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:34.920
<v Speaker 1>He said ones called daddy and one's called dad, but

0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:37.560
<v Speaker 1>sometimes they call them both dad. But that they could

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:40.399
<v Speaker 1>tell just by like the tone of the voice. Ah, right,

0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:41.600
<v Speaker 1>which makes sense.

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:45.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, I mean I personally, and I even tell

0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:48.440
<v Speaker 2>the girls because we haven't usually another host with us, Catherine,

0:41:48.840 --> 0:41:52.319
<v Speaker 2>and she's our opposer. Usually. Well that's I'm like, don't

0:41:52.320 --> 0:41:53.920
<v Speaker 2>agree with me because I'm like I don't want to

0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:56.439
<v Speaker 2>listen to something where everyone's like yeah I agree, Like yeah,

0:41:57.160 --> 0:41:59.120
<v Speaker 2>let's you know, I'm like, have a debate with me,

0:41:59.239 --> 0:42:02.200
<v Speaker 2>like I you know, we have very different opinions, so

0:42:02.920 --> 0:42:05.200
<v Speaker 2>let's like, let's voice that I think in this day

0:42:05.239 --> 0:42:08.319
<v Speaker 2>and age, like you're saying, it's people. Don't people just

0:42:08.360 --> 0:42:09.759
<v Speaker 2>want to go straight to like, oh, you must be

0:42:09.800 --> 0:42:12.040
<v Speaker 2>anti this, Like no, I'm not. I'm just these are

0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:13.920
<v Speaker 2>just my views. You don't have to agree with me,

0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:16.280
<v Speaker 2>and you also don't have to be mean and hateful

0:42:16.280 --> 0:42:19.319
<v Speaker 2>towards it too. We're all afraid of being canceled too.

0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:22.200
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm afraid of getting two people canceled because I

0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:24.319
<v Speaker 2>have this is my best friend and my husband's in

0:42:24.320 --> 0:42:26.879
<v Speaker 2>country music. So I'm like, I have to be extra care,

0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:29.920
<v Speaker 2>I know, because I could get both of them canceled fast.

0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I know. That's like my sister. My sister's like like

0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:36.880
<v Speaker 1>my mom has very she has very strong views, and

0:42:36.880 --> 0:42:38.120
<v Speaker 1>she's one of those people who just like put it

0:42:38.160 --> 0:42:40.960
<v Speaker 1>all on Facebook, and my sister like made her delete

0:42:40.960 --> 0:42:43.360
<v Speaker 1>all of it because it's like what we say is

0:42:43.400 --> 0:42:46.440
<v Speaker 1>a reflection of each other in a lot of ways.

0:42:46.520 --> 0:42:49.239
<v Speaker 1>And so sometimes my sisters will text me and be like,

0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:51.319
<v Speaker 1>we take your story down right now, like we're not

0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:52.080
<v Speaker 1>going the.

0:42:52.080 --> 0:42:55.319
<v Speaker 2>Wild card I to do.

0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:57.799
<v Speaker 1>I love you, Thank you guys.

0:42:57.640 --> 0:43:00.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you for coming on Wine Down. I love you.

0:43:00.440 --> 0:43:02.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad that we were able to connect. And

0:43:03.239 --> 0:43:06.399
<v Speaker 2>We're going to listen to your podcast and yeah when

0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:07.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm in La this week.

0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:09.719
<v Speaker 1>Let's oh you're coming this week?

0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:10.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah for a week.

0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh amazing. If you have to have three like forty

0:43:15.000 --> 0:43:17.600
<v Speaker 1>five minutes and you're in West Hollywood, please stop by,

0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:19.719
<v Speaker 1>dear media, because we would love to have you on.

0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:22.120
<v Speaker 2>It would be so fun. Yeah, that'd be so fun.

0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:22.600
<v Speaker 1>I would love to.

0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Help her pack a box because she's got to get

0:43:24.200 --> 0:43:24.680
<v Speaker 2>out quick.

0:43:24.760 --> 0:43:25.040
<v Speaker 1>I know.

0:43:25.280 --> 0:43:26.840
<v Speaker 2>We got to get you out, girl, We've got to

0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:28.120
<v Speaker 2>get you out of your place.

0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I know. Yeah. Then we'll go on like speed dating

0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:33.080
<v Speaker 1>or something fun. Oh yeah, I'll swipe have any friends.

0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:37.200
<v Speaker 2>He's got a brother and he's got uh they're all married.

0:43:37.239 --> 0:43:41.160
<v Speaker 2>I think the ones in English married. He's not married.

0:43:41.200 --> 0:43:45.799
<v Speaker 2>He's got an older son. He's Scottish. Okay, the accents enough.

0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:49.640
<v Speaker 2>I gotta tell you, the accents really get our little

0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:51.480
<v Speaker 2>American hearts. They knock them out.

0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:56.520
<v Speaker 1>Best is your is your husband Scottish shoe or English

0:43:56.600 --> 0:43:56.960
<v Speaker 1>or something?

0:43:57.400 --> 0:44:00.839
<v Speaker 2>No, mine's just super Southern. Oh yeah, Southern accents. How

0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:02.080
<v Speaker 2>I get myself in this position?

0:44:02.280 --> 0:44:04.839
<v Speaker 1>So, oh my god. Yeah, maybe that's what I need.

0:44:04.880 --> 0:44:07.120
<v Speaker 1>I just needed an accent. My ACX was from Boston

0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:09.239
<v Speaker 1>and that accents, that's not it.

0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of birth control, that'll do it for me. And

0:44:11.480 --> 0:44:14.560
<v Speaker 2>I hate to be offensive. That's a birth control for me.

0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:17.680
<v Speaker 2>All right, girl, Well, we will chat with you soon.

0:44:17.800 --> 0:44:18.520
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for coming on.

0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:20.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, thanks so much guys.

0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:28.760
<v Speaker 2>Ye what a fun a. I love Wildcard Aurora. She's fun.

0:44:29.160 --> 0:44:31.759
<v Speaker 2>I just like how like, I don't know, there's just

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:33.960
<v Speaker 2>something really free. But it's not a challenge. I was

0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:36.480
<v Speaker 2>gonna say free. Yeah, it's not like you know how sometimes

0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:39.560
<v Speaker 2>people that are free I'm putting in air quotes like

0:44:39.560 --> 0:44:43.840
<v Speaker 2>that free speech are like a like liveing a fence.

0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:47.719
<v Speaker 2>She doesn't. She's just like, yeah here I am. Yeah, yeah,

0:44:47.760 --> 0:44:49.160
<v Speaker 2>once a year would never work for me. I just

0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:52.600
<v Speaker 2>want to be really clear. I would never Oh yeah's

0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:56.680
<v Speaker 2>a bigger woman than I am. I again, I this

0:44:56.760 --> 0:45:03.719
<v Speaker 2>is my have to stay politically correct and things. I

0:45:03.760 --> 0:45:08.520
<v Speaker 2>gave mine seven but not because I said so. No.

0:45:09.719 --> 0:45:13.520
<v Speaker 2>But if it works for you, that's great. I just

0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:16.840
<v Speaker 2>know for me that ain't gonna fly. No. Same And

0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:22.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm a little territorial Cramer, I mean you and I

0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:25.759
<v Speaker 2>both Yeah, I'm but no, that's mine. Yeah, I set

0:45:26.080 --> 0:45:29.440
<v Speaker 2>like it gets a little like that geo like animal kingdom.

0:45:29.480 --> 0:45:31.720
<v Speaker 2>For me, I just well and I have and again

0:45:31.760 --> 0:45:36.400
<v Speaker 2>I believe in the you know, the respect and the

0:45:36.440 --> 0:45:38.840
<v Speaker 2>love and that it will be hard. But that doesn't

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:42.279
<v Speaker 2>mean to go sleep with someone else, no, and personally

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<v Speaker 2>for me in my relationships. And that's what I think

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<v Speaker 2>is so cool though it is about these conversations is

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<v Speaker 2>like it is. I felt like for a long long

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<v Speaker 2>time everyone was quiet. It was like the minute someone

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<v Speaker 2>made a mistake in a marriage, no one was working

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<v Speaker 2>on it. Like my Dallas mom Pam was the first

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<v Speaker 2>person to sit down with me and be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>she was on her third husband when she was open

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<v Speaker 2>about loved it, and she was like, listen, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>always incredible. You really have to work well. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing too, Like we've both been a cheater in

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<v Speaker 2>past relationships, and it's like I don't want that for that,

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's not who I wasn't wanting to be or

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<v Speaker 2>intending to be or any of those things, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So like, and I think some people just don't work

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<v Speaker 2>well together too. Yes, I just talked to someone the

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<v Speaker 2>other day who's going through divorce and she was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he's a good person, and I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's okay that you don't mesh together either, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>no matter the work. Wow, Craamer, we really went all

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<v Speaker 2>over today. How's the contractions? I mean, I had a

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<v Speaker 2>strong one. While I was talking to her, I hope

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<v Speaker 2>it's today. I feel ready. It's funny to feel ready

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<v Speaker 2>because I've been so like hopeless romantic because I know

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<v Speaker 2>this is my last time. That's the emotional part. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like I here we go. Oh, I know, nobod, it's good.

0:47:02.960 --> 0:47:08.160
<v Speaker 2>Why you crying because that's what I do. No, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just hot when it's your last. Like, I didn't think

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<v Speaker 2>i'd even get to do this again. So I've just hear. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I acted like legend was our last anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>and I soaked it up, and you know me, I'm

0:47:18.760 --> 0:47:22.960
<v Speaker 2>just such a feeling creature anyways. But yeah, I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>really ready to know who this person is. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I just also am like, oh, like every kick, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like taking videos. It's like I can't bottle it up

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<v Speaker 2>fast enough. It's a lot. When more week, maybe less,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe another hour? Well, my last baby, why don't you

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<v Speaker 2>send us off? Oh creamer, goodbye house, Goodbye pregnant belly.

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<v Speaker 2>Next time we are on Windown, we'll be out of

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<v Speaker 2>a different location and down one lass heartbeat on the couch.

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<v Speaker 2>I love you, I love you too. This is a

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<v Speaker 2>good end of the chapter. Front I'm proud of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Proud of you baby. Let's pack a box and have

0:47:58.840 --> 0:48:03.040
<v Speaker 2>a baby. Okay, yours not mine. Mine's too soon. Go

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<v Speaker 2>bye and bye. Mhm