1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: This year, I will have made a baby, ran a marathon, 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: and I'm like writing a book, Like what's wrong with me? 3 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: Like why am I feeling like that's. 4 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 2: Not enough stuff? 5 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 3: Hey, Hey, Emily Baudi here pop it in with a 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 3: special bonus episode of Hurdle, a podcast where you'll get 7 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 3: the true stories and mindset lessons of the most inspiring 8 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 3: women in sports and wellness, empowering you to live a healthier, happier, 9 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 3: more motivated life and of course, conquer your own hurdles 10 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 3: along the way. This episode was recorded live at every 11 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:48,279 Speaker 3: Woman's Marathon in Scottsdale, Arizona, and I am so excited 12 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 3: to bring it to the feed. 13 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: For it, I am chatting. 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 3: With Molly Huddle, her first ever appearance on the show. 15 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 3: A pro runner for Socany, Molly told the line of 16 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 3: every Woman's Marathon, checking off her first marathon since having 17 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,839 Speaker 3: her second child just six months ago. 18 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: Wow wow wow Wow. 19 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 3: Also a part of today's episode, Des Linden, a favorite 20 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 3: of many a past Hurdle guest. She is the twenty 21 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 3: eighteen at Boston Marathon champion, as well as co host 22 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 3: of Nobody Asked Us with Destin Kara along with Carrik Goucher. 23 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 3: So many things I could say and accolades I could 24 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: highlight about these women in this intro, but. 25 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 2: Want to keep things short and sweet. 26 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 3: The conversation not just advice for aspiring marathoners, but also 27 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 3: so many outstanding takeaways on how to show up and 28 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 3: do hard things, self belief and the importance of being 29 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 3: honest with yourself, knowing when to pivot from a goal, 30 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 3: and how to talk to yourself with compassion. Make sure 31 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 3: you're following along with Hurdle over on social It's at 32 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 3: Curdle podcast. 33 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: I am over at Emily Abodi. 34 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 3: Make sure you're following iHeart Women's Sports as well over 35 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 3: at iHeart Women's Sports. And listen to Hurdle with Emily 36 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 3: Body on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you 37 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 3: get your podcasts. And with that, let's get to it. 38 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 3: Let's get to hurdling. Hello, Hello, Hey everyone. My name 39 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 3: is Emily A. 40 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 2: Body. I host a podcast called Hurdle. 41 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 3: I'm so excited to be here today with all of 42 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 3: you at the Every Woman's Marathon Expo. Show up hands 43 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:35,119 Speaker 3: if you're running on Sunday, that's what we love to see. Well, 44 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: we are here to give you some inspiration. But before 45 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 3: we get into it, of course, I've got to introduce 46 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 3: these two rock stars next to me. First, up to 47 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: my left, two time Olympian author podcaster Molly Huddle. Next 48 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 3: to Mollie des Lindon twenty eighteen Boston Marathon champion, also 49 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 3: an Olympian herself, author podcaster Mollie long overdue first appearance 50 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 3: on Hurdle Welcome, Yes. 51 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 4: Thanks, so happy to finally be meeting you and talking 52 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 4: in person. 53 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 3: So happy to be finally meeting you and talking in person. 54 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 3: I always like to level set so everyone can be 55 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 3: on the same page as we get into this combo today. 56 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: How are you doing really? 57 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: I just had my second baby six months ago, so 58 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: obviously very sleep deprived and doing a lot of just 59 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,839 Speaker 1: baby schedule, breastfeeding, wrangling two kids, but managing to get 60 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: some runs in so I can feel sane. 61 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: Some runs in so I can feel sane. 62 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: And you also were just sharing with me backstage that 63 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 3: you took your first plane ride with your six month old. 64 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: Yes, it went well. I was nervous about it, but 65 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: everything went smoothly. Just a lot of juggling back and 66 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: forth with my husband, but yeah, nobody pooped. Anywhere or 67 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: peed anywhere or head of tantrum. It was just chill, 68 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: So that was good. 69 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 3: As long as all of the things are confined, it's 70 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 3: all good. It's all good. Does how are you doing? 71 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: Really doing great? 72 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 5: I feel like the last time we had this question 73 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 5: answer scenario was in Boston before my final pro marathon, 74 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 5: So last time I was like, oh good, but I 75 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 5: was really sad. So yeah, I'm good now and feeling 76 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 5: relaxed and excited for an exciting weekend where I don't 77 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 5: have any nerves, but I'm like kind of anxious, nervous 78 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 5: for all of you, which will be a really fun 79 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 5: marathon on Sunday. 80 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 81 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,799 Speaker 3: Now, I don't know if I can ever actually trust 82 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 3: Dez ever again, because I woke up on that marathon 83 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 3: Monday and saw the news and thought, Wow, my buddy 84 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 3: just totally left me in the dark. 85 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 2: Wasn't cool? Wasn't cool? Never again? Never again? Never again? 86 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 2: I know. 87 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 3: Now, I'll hold you to that now, as you both said, obviously, 88 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 3: just had. 89 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 2: Your second baby. 90 00:04:55,560 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 3: Does transitioning out of pro marathoning big transitionary period for 91 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 3: both of you? How are you feeling getting back into 92 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 3: the swing of things? 93 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: Molly I'm feeling like I'm just trying to keep it 94 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: fun in what I can handle. I feel like physically 95 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: it's just a lot, like your energy is just kind 96 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: of gone. You're not sleeping a lot. Like I said, 97 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: the breastfeeding is just taxing. So I've been doing just 98 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: the training that makes me feel good and not to 99 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: the point where I'm like, you know, overdoing it and 100 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: feeling more tired and just not able to come home 101 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: and take care of everyone like I have to. So 102 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: it's kind of a weird middle ground. But I feel 103 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: good with it. 104 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 3: Feel like question mark, I think I feel okay, Am 105 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 3: I okay? 106 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? Are you okay? But things feel different? Yes, yeah, 107 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: things feel different. 108 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 4: I'm not as fit as i'd like. 109 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: I'm not doing the level of workouts I'm used to, 110 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: but I think that's just where I'm at right now, 111 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: and I'd definitely rather be doing this than not doing 112 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: it at all. 113 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,119 Speaker 3: So what has been the most surprising thing for you 114 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 3: in this come back to running postpartum? 115 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 4: I think, just like. 116 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: When you have, yeah, an extra person to worry about, you, 117 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: just do you have that much less energy? 118 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 4: And it just Yeah, I didn't think it could get 119 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 4: harder but it did. 120 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: But it's a phase and I think it just will 121 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: get easier as the months go on and things are good. 122 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: It's just yeah, it's just it's like the physicality of 123 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: young kids is with a surprise to me, I guess. 124 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 3: Right, and a whole other training component to the training plan. 125 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 3: Of course, now does in your transition Obviously things will 126 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 3: look a little bit different for you now as you're 127 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 3: scaling up your mileage for different types of challenges. 128 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 2: Give us some insight into how things are. 129 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 3: Different now that you're not competing on that pro level. 130 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think it's much more about what's fun, 131 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 5: what's interesting, what's going to motivate me, and just redefining that, 132 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 5: you know, I think for so long it was performance 133 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 5: and trying to push yourself and comparing yourself with the 134 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 5: best in the world, and you're always measuring and focusing 135 00:06:58,520 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 5: in on how can I be better? How can I 136 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 5: y at my best? And now it's like what is fun, 137 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 5: what's interesting? And I'm curious about the long distance, I'm 138 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 5: curious about the trail. Although I went on a really 139 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 5: good trail and run with somebodies after a wedding and 140 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 5: took it just a face plant, cracked my knee, So 141 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 5: maybe the trail doesn't love me back already. 142 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: I'm learning, but that's okay. 143 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 5: I think the longer distances are intriguing and now I 144 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 5: feel like I need to go spend more time on 145 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 5: the trails to try and master it. And so it's 146 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 5: just what moves me at the moment, and I think 147 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 5: that that's a fun place to be. And instead of 148 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 5: you know, fine tuning and dialing everything into you know, 149 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 5: high performance and being very specific about. 150 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: That, finding the fun. We love that. 151 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 3: And you did find some fun recently in New York 152 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 3: City running the New York City Marathon alongside Hamilton's Anthony 153 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 3: Ramos Dez ran that marathon a bit slower than her 154 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 3: normal marathon, in four hours and forty four minutes. 155 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: The difference is there. Talk to me, is one harder 156 00:07:58,960 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 2: than the other? 157 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: Is it harder to run us up to thirty marathon 158 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 3: then a four forty four? 159 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 4: They're very different. 160 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 5: I wouldn't say one is specifically harder than the other. 161 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 5: They're both very challenging. I wasn't planning on running the 162 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 5: full thing with Anthony. I was planning on doing the 163 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 5: fifty miler and then I had this knee thing pop up, 164 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 5: and I was gonna run like ten to twelve miles 165 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 5: with him. As we got closer to the race, I 166 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 5: realized that I was gonna kind of be leaving him 167 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 5: at a point where it starts to get hard, and 168 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 5: I was like, I don't really understand how the exit 169 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 5: strategy is gonna work. 170 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 2: Like, okay, I know. 171 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 6: It's really tough, see you later, good luck, go get him. 172 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 5: So I sort of wrapped my mind around the idea 173 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 5: that I would be in there all day, and then 174 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 5: it was just like, how can we make this fun? 175 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 5: I had a beer at one point, I brought him candy, 176 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 5: I brought a pen for him so he could sign autographs, 177 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 5: and it was great. It was just like four and 178 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 5: a half hours of all of us yelling like let's go, 179 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 5: and then the last you know, several minutes were me 180 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 5: yelling at him like you got this, you can do it, 181 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 5: stay strong. So it was very emotionally exhausting in a 182 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 5: way that you know, at sub two point thirty is 183 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 5: not just physically exhausting. 184 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 1: Yeah. 185 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's probably some really applicable takeaways here 186 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 3: that we can use when we talk about the context 187 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 3: of what some of these women are going to be 188 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 3: doing on Sunday, Right, we know that you're going to 189 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 3: show up and you're going to be out there for 190 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 3: a while, and you're going to be doing a hard thing. 191 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 3: When you're in the pain cave, Molly, what comes to 192 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 3: mind for you? Do you have anything that you return 193 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 3: to time and time again? Yeah? 194 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: I think the best thing to do for that is 195 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 1: to just stay in the moment. I feel like a 196 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: lot of times you want to get out of that 197 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: moment and distract yourself. But whenever I think ahead to like, 198 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: oh I want this to be over, when will I 199 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: be at the end? I almost feel worse. So I 200 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: kind of just let it like flow through me, like 201 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: this is uncomfortable. I just kind of have to steep 202 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: in it. That's the challenge of the marathon. Make it, 203 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: my friend, it's very zen. You have to get zen 204 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: about the marathon because it's like mentally, it's just it 205 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: can really be intimidating if you don't have like that 206 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: kind of approach of like I'm. 207 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 4: One with this race, this feeling is part of me. 208 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 4: It's okay, we're gonna do this, We're gonna get through this. 209 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 4: So that's been my. 210 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: Go to just kind of stay in the mile, stay 211 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: in that moment, run with your animal. 212 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 2: Brain, run with your animal brain. 213 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 4: You don't think, you just you're like a deer. You're 214 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 4: just like run, I just run. 215 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 3: Never have I ever heard this before, but I'm interested 216 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 3: in it. Okay, And so then let's take this a 217 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 3: step further. When you're out there and you're in the 218 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 3: pain cave and things aren't going as you'd hoped, that 219 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 3: definitely takes a little bit of mental gymnastics, as is 220 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 3: that something that you've dealt with before, and if so, 221 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 3: how did you learn from that experience? 222 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 4: Yeah? 223 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 5: I mean, I think we all get really latched onto 224 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 5: our goals, and there's things that make us have to pivot. 225 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 5: Sometimes it's the weather. Sometimes it's the training block, going 226 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 5: not to plan. Sometimes it's in the moment where you 227 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 5: see your goals slipping away and you want to be like, well, 228 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 5: the goal's gone, so maybe I should just step off. 229 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 5: But I think that you can learn so much from 230 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 5: those moments and pushing through even when it's not going 231 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 5: your way, Like how can you pivot? How can you reevaluate? 232 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 5: How can you redefine what you want to get out 233 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 5: of a day. 234 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 2: And I think. 235 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 5: That's really important for me as a performance athlete. It's 236 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 5: always like, Okay, this is not a good day. How 237 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 5: good can I make my bad day? You know, like 238 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 5: what can I get out of something that's not going 239 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 5: my way? And I think that's really applicable to like 240 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 5: life as a whole, Like what do I do when 241 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 5: things are stacked against me? 242 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 2: How do I respond to when it's difficult? 243 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 5: But I also think at the other side of where 244 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 5: I'm in my career now, it's like maybe it's just 245 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 5: going out and having a ton of fun, like high 246 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 5: five of your friends, help somebody out, make a friend 247 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 5: on their course. Like, there's all kinds of different pivots 248 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 5: to make it a positive, successful experience even though the 249 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 5: a goal slips away. 250 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 3: Molly, I know that you also have certainly had moments, 251 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 3: as we all have, where things haven't gone according to plan. 252 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 3: How have you been able to mentally rebound, either in 253 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 3: the heat of the moment during a race to get 254 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 3: the best out of that opportunity possible, or even you know, 255 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 3: in the moments, hours, days, weeks after it. 256 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely think mid race it's hard. 257 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: I think it's good to have kind of contingency plans 258 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: like what's my agle beagle seagal. Some are process oriented, 259 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: some are more time based. You know, have that variety 260 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 1: to kind of get you through and then afterwards, I 261 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 1: think just learning from it, Like if you can look 262 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: back and say, well, like here's here's what I did 263 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: to prepare, how could I do that better? Here's maybe 264 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: what caused what made me unhappy, and use it to 265 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: make you a better athlete, or at the very least 266 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: just kind of like solidify your why of doing it 267 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: for next time. I think definitely you can grow from 268 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: it no matter what happens. Definitely, just like reflecting on 269 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: things and giving yourself time to be bummed, for sure, 270 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: because you all put a lot of work into it. 271 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: It's a lot of energy and time going into training 272 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: even just getting to the start line. So for sure 273 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: it's a vulnerable thing to be like I'm getting ready 274 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: to take to tackle this. It might or might not 275 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: happen totally. 276 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 3: And to your point, a lot of opportunity costs right 277 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 3: as well, Like you've put in not only so much work, 278 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 3: but you've made these conscious decisions day in and day 279 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 3: out to do things differently. So that you could set 280 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 3: yourself up for this goal. I mentioned podcasting, both of 281 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 3: you podcasting also both of you authors. How has diversifying 282 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 3: your portfolio, if you will, made you feel does it 283 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 3: make you kind of revisit the identity of you as 284 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 3: a runner? 285 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: What's going on there? 286 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 1: I think it's just fun to be able to use 287 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,359 Speaker 1: other skills, use other parts of yourself, do some storytelling, 288 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: engage with the community in different ways. 289 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 2: I've kind of always. 290 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 4: Felt that way throughout my running career. 291 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: But I think I only have given myself permission to 292 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: kind of do it later, once you've really felt like 293 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: you've given it one hundred percent. On the competitive side, 294 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, what else can I do with this? 295 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 1: And what's interest? Like? 296 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 2: What does said? What's interesting? 297 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 4: What's I mean, that's kind of what motivates me? 298 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 5: Now? 299 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 4: What's interesting? 300 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: I'm curious and just it's actually a bigger world outside 301 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: of the elite scope that's a very narrow piece of this. 302 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: And so it's been really fun to just engage with 303 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: more of the running community and talk to people about 304 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: different perspectives and learn so much. I feel like one 305 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: thing a lot of what I do with my podcast 306 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: in books, as I talk to like women's sports research, 307 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: women's health research experts, and it's been cool to just 308 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: meet so many really smart people doing some great things 309 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: for the sport. 310 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 2: I love that. 311 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 3: And you know, so interesting does with your podcast when 312 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 3: we were both in Tokyo, like you were there for 313 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 3: podcasting right among some other things. A very different avenue 314 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 3: to still be in the circuit. 315 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's really fun. 316 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 5: I think one thing, with the professional side and the 317 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 5: performance side, it feels really selfish. You know, like all 318 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 5: the decisions you're making are around your training, around your performance, 319 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 5: or around your habits or around you know, it's me, me, 320 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 5: me all the time, so that I can get the 321 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 5: most out of myself, extract the most out of myself 322 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 5: on race day and then that result you go, like 323 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 5: you share it with your team. But it feels a lot, 324 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 5: you know, after a lot of years, it can feel 325 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 5: pretty self centered. So I think this is a really 326 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 5: nice way to tell other stories or to you know, 327 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 5: be around for other people or elevate other athletes performances. 328 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 5: And so it's nice to have that, to just share 329 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 5: different parts of the sport. 330 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: And yeah, that's it's very. 331 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 5: Fulfilling and maybe it's selfish to dig into that and 332 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 5: be like, oh, this is a nice way to like 333 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 5: engage in the sport for myself. But also it's not 334 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 5: my stories anymore, it's other folks, So hopefully it's giving 335 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 5: back to a degree. 336 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 3: Do you feel, Mollie that you experienced a little bit 337 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 3: of that too, like feeling as though your training was. 338 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 2: A little bit selfish at times? Totally? 339 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think just in at least sport is inherently unbalanced. 340 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: Your life is really unbalanced. Your whole life revolves around 341 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: you know, how fast you can be, which is a 342 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: really small part of yourself. And don't get me wrong, 343 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: I enjoyed it, you know, when it's giving stuff back 344 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: to you, when you're making progress and results, like you 345 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: feel so alive, like it's amazing, but it is. It's 346 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: you know, your my husband didn't work. He just your 347 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: husband's a huge support too, Like that's why we got 348 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: to where we did. We had someone in our life 349 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: supporting us, like twenty four to seven. You know, so 350 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: not a lot of female athletes have that. Actually, you 351 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: know a lot of the male athletes you see out 352 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: on the football field on the basketball court, like they 353 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: have their family helps them get there. So I'm glad 354 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: that we can kind of live for each other, like he's. 355 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 2: Not all in on me anymore. 356 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: We had a great journey, but I feel like things 357 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: are more balanced now, and definitely that selfishness can be 358 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: hard to get around sometimes. 359 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 3: Those support systems such an integral part to being able 360 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 3: to show up and do your best and also support 361 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 3: you during your training. Something else that I think a 362 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 3: lot of people here today are thinking about when it 363 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 3: comes to running the marathon is going out there and 364 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 3: feeling their most confident self, something that you both know 365 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 3: very well. You've had to hype yourself up before big races. 366 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 3: When you think about some of the ways that you 367 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 3: feel you're most confident before you tow a starting line, 368 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 3: what comes to mind. 369 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 2: I'll start with you, Daz. 370 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 5: I kind of dig into the preparation and something that 371 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 5: I do ahead of time is write out a race plan. 372 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 5: So I look at where I started, where I've gotten 373 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 5: to in the build up, and then I write out 374 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,959 Speaker 5: my race plan for you know, obviously race morning, all 375 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 5: the way through to the finish line, and the decisions 376 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:25,719 Speaker 5: I want to make so that when it gets art 377 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 5: out there, I'm not negotiating, I'm not bargaining with myself, 378 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 5: and so I think once I can take that off 379 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 5: the table, I feel really confident that I can just 380 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 5: go and stick to a plan. 381 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 2: And it's not like based on. 382 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 5: Anyone else's decisions or what they're doing out there. It's 383 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 5: really just focused on myself, like what decisions do I 384 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 5: want to make so that I could get to the 385 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 5: finish line feeling like I had a great performance, and 386 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 5: so that helps me feel confident on the start line 387 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 5: all the way through to the finish. 388 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 3: Was there an experience where you learn the importance of 389 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 3: doing that? Because I feel like that is such a 390 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 3: valuable takeaway. It's like I know now that I want 391 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 3: to go into this specific moment and have my race 392 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 3: plan and visualize it in this way. But typically speaking, 393 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,479 Speaker 3: usually something has to go wrong for you to get 394 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 3: to this place where you say, Okay, this is what 395 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 3: I'm going to do the next time. 396 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 6: Yeah. 397 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 5: I mean I started doing that in college, and it's 398 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 5: something that you can work on and it's just like 399 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 5: the marathon itself. There's all these little tools that you'll 400 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 5: learn how to tweak it and make it better and 401 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 5: refine it, and you're never going to write the perfect 402 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 5: race plan. 403 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: But that's kind of the point is you go back 404 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 2: and you look. 405 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 5: At the moments and you're like, well, I didn't do 406 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 5: it quite right here. How can I write this plan 407 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 5: better so that next time, like the bargaining's gone, like 408 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 5: this is what I should have been thinking. 409 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 6: And so it's a process just like the marathon. 410 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 5: But I think getting that first one down and giving 411 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 5: yourself a tool to work with out there is super helpful. 412 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 5: And then you look back at it and you go, 413 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 5: where did I have make really good decisions? 414 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 2: And what can I be better at? 415 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 5: And how can I use this plan to help me 416 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 5: have a better plan on the race course. 417 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 3: The thing that's interesting though, is like, let's even go 418 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 3: to twenty eighteen Boston. Like you probably you definitely had 419 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 3: a race play and for that day, right, and things 420 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 3: at one point felt like they went out the window. 421 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 3: Then you were able to come back and pivot and 422 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 3: embrace what was working to your advantage on that day. 423 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 3: So it's like, Okay, I have the plan, but what 424 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 3: happens if the plan was out the window? 425 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 5: It shouldn't be a plan that you just totally throw 426 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 5: out right, Like there's moments where you make decisions that 427 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 5: you're like, that's probably not it next time. You need 428 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 5: to be better here, here, and here. But then you 429 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 5: get back on the plan. You know, It's just like 430 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,239 Speaker 5: if you miss a day in training, You're not like, oh, 431 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 5: I need to make that up before I can move forward. 432 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 5: You just what's the next thing on the schedule. Let's 433 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 5: go there and make sure that I'm doing that right. So, 434 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,959 Speaker 5: like Molly was saying earlier, it's not like what do 435 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 5: I how much. 436 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 2: Do I have left? Or what decisions did I make wrong? 437 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 2: It's just be very. 438 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,239 Speaker 5: Zen what do I need to do right now? And 439 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 5: so it's staying in that moment. 440 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 2: Staying in that moment now. 441 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 3: Obviously being out there for the marathon is a lot 442 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 3: different than being out there for the ten k the 443 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 3: five k events that both of you have experienced. With 444 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 3: Molly on the track for quite some time. How for 445 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 3: you has it been different in that transition of going 446 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 3: from the track diligently to now in this later phase 447 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 3: of your career really being more on the roads. 448 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the roads are definitely something I had 449 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: to learn to be better at. I mean I was 450 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: used to like the data of the track every lap. 451 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: You know, to me, that's like a safe space because 452 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 1: you're just like I get to click off laps, I 453 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: can't get too far off pace in the roads are 454 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: just there can be a harder feel to them. You 455 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: can be feeling like you're very far away from things sometimes. 456 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: But then I got comfortable with the roads, and then 457 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 1: the marathon is a whole nother sport. So I had 458 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: to really like still wrapping my head around the marathon, 459 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: you know, just the pacing, the mental strategies with the marathon. 460 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: I feel like it's just such a like a U 461 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: verse you thing every time you go out. So it's 462 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: a challenge that I see why it keeps people coming back, 463 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: because it's like it's just such a big challenge. 464 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 3: You said something very important, the mental strategies of the marathon, 465 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 3: something that I would be remiss if we didn't unpack 466 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 3: here with two great women marathoners, let's talk about perhaps 467 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 3: maybe your most helpful tip when it comes to approaching 468 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 3: the mental side of things racing twenty six point two miles. 469 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 2: Does what comes to mind for. 470 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 5: You wrapping your head around the fact that it's going 471 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 5: to be difficult, Like you signed up for a very 472 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 5: challenging thing. That's why it's so meaningful you when you 473 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 5: cross the finish line. So I think for me, it's 474 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 5: just reminding myself at the start and then throughout the day. 475 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 5: You know, you didn't train so that this would be 476 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 5: something easy. You train so you'd be prepared for when 477 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 5: it got difficult, and just trust that training. Believe that 478 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 5: you're prepared so when the challenging moment comes, when the 479 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 5: difficult moment comes, you can look at in the eyes 480 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 5: and say, I am ready for this. This is why 481 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 5: I trained, this is why I did the twenty mile 482 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 5: long runs. All of the things you put in to 483 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 5: get there. You're prepared for that moment, but don't expect 484 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 5: it to be easy. Just know that when it shows up, 485 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 5: you're ready. 486 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 2: And it shows up, you're ready. 487 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 3: Mollie, what's the mental gymnastics that you go through on 488 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 3: the marathon course? 489 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, that it can be hard to wrap your head around, 490 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: you know, just the attention span, like it starts to 491 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: wane right when you start to get tired. You're like, Okay, 492 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: I've been out here for two three hours, and like 493 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: it's just getting harder and harder. 494 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 2: So I like to just like wipe the slate clean. 495 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 4: Every like twenty or thirty minutes and just play. 496 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: Mental tricks and like bottle to bottle, Like we get 497 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: fuel bottles every like five k. I like to just 498 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: think bottle to bottle and then you know, just focus 499 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: in that small chunk and then you get sort of 500 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: like a refreshing burst with the bottle. You can pretend 501 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,719 Speaker 1: you're starting over again. So whatever your fuel strategy is, 502 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: you go from like you know, fuel to fuel and 503 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: just keep the race in those small chunks. That's helped 504 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: me a lot. Yeah, just kind of have a mantra 505 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: for that last ten k. I feel like that helps 506 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: a lot too. 507 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 2: What's the mantra. 508 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: Mine's usually changes a little bit, but it's usually just 509 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,719 Speaker 1: simple and positive, like those are the two important pieces, 510 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: and it's just something that can if you're saying it 511 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: over and over, you don't have room to think bad 512 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: things like I want to stop, so like you're fine, 513 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: or stay here. 514 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 2: Stay here? 515 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: Is when I like, just stay here or hang on 516 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: if someone's in front of me, things like that, and 517 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: I just say it over and over again for like 518 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: half an hour. 519 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 3: Calm, Calm, Calm, Relax, Relax, Relax, that's mine. 520 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of boring. I don't think it's boring. 521 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 3: I think to Molly's point, it's it's a mantra that 522 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 3: doesn't take mental energy to like repeat to yourself, if 523 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 3: that makes sense, it's not. I always laugh, you know 524 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,959 Speaker 3: when you when you talk to someone and it's a 525 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 3: paragraph long, It's like, how do you remember that when 526 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 3: you're out there and struggling for that entire time? 527 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: And I nearly don't want it to be too emotional, 528 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: like I don't want to say my kids names or anything. 529 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: I just want to be like, stay, you're strong. Stay 530 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: like something simple like a pep talk, kind of. 531 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 2: Like a pep talk. You'll need a pep talk. 532 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 3: You going out there this Sunday to run this marathon? 533 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 3: What's this marathon mean to you? And how are you feeling? 534 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 4: For me? I feel okay. 535 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: I did basically a couple of long runs and mostly 536 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: like shorter workouts, so I'm not super prepared to run hard. 537 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 4: But it was a good sized. 538 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: Challenge to get me back into running after having my 539 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: daughter six months ago. And there are just a lot 540 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: of things about the race that lit me up, like 541 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: I love coming to Scottsdale. I have fun memories of 542 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: training here during my pro career and for fifteen years, 543 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: you know, we'd come in the winter and train really 544 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: hard on this very course to this very course on 545 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: the Greenway on the canal. And then Soccany is the 546 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: sponsor of the race, and so it's opened up opportunities 547 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 1: for me here to do some things for Soccany, which 548 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: is great, and I just you know, have some friends 549 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 1: I love to come visit down here. And then I'm 550 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: doing fundraising for four all mothers. I always like to 551 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 1: hop in and do something for four our mothers every year, 552 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: and this presented itself as a great, great timing. So 553 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: just lots of things that were like green flags, and 554 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: so I'm very happy to be here doing this and 555 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: getting a marathon in, which is everyone like it got 556 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: me out the door for the last six months. So 557 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: I think, no matter what happens on Sunday, like, I'm 558 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: happy for. 559 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 3: What it did for me, just getting a marathon in, 560 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 3: you know, bigger than that, though, your first marathon since 561 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 3: having your daughter and six months after doing so. When 562 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 3: I say that to you and I repeat that to you, 563 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 3: how does that make you feel? 564 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 2: It doesn't sound like much time what that level set 565 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 2: right now. 566 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: It felt like a long time, and then when you 567 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 1: look back, you're like, that was I was only I've 568 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: only been running a couple months, so I think it's 569 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: you know, it's given me a lot of freedom. I've 570 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: taken a lot of pressure off. You know, just to 571 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: do a marathon is a big thing, and I feel 572 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: like I'm appreciating that right now. And it's funny, like 573 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: in the doldrums after having a baby, when you're just like, 574 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: you don't feel like you're getting much done. But then 575 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: I look back this year, I will have made a baby, 576 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: ran a marathon, and I'm like writing a book, like 577 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: what's wrong with me? Like why am I feeling like 578 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: that's not enough? 579 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:30,719 Speaker 2: Stuff? 580 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 4: So, yeah, it's good to remind yourself you. 581 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 3: Have nothing going on, MOLLI, Yeah, why does it need 582 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 3: to be more than that? 583 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 2: Duys, You'll be out there cheering on Sunday. 584 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 5: It's been fun to be on that side of the 585 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 5: sport more frequently now. I mean even in the past 586 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 5: being an ambassador has been great. But you know, obviously 587 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 5: watching that finish line last year and Savannah was incredible. 588 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 5: I feel like the energy and the emotion was just 589 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 5: like heightened by people experiencing the marathon for the first time. 590 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 5: There's so many first timers and people maybe just at 591 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 5: the beginning of this thought like I can't do it, 592 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 5: and now you can look back at where you started, 593 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 5: how the build up went, and when you cross the 594 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 5: finish line on Sunday, it's just it's going to be spectacular. 595 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 5: And that energy last year is like I can't wait 596 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 5: to come back. I think this course is going to 597 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 5: be epic. Same energy from Team Milk and yeah, I'm 598 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 5: excited to be at the finish and true people. 599 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 3: On I'm excited to be at the finish line too, 600 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 3: and I'm sure everybody here that's running it also excited 601 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 3: to be at that finish line. Advice that you wish 602 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 3: that you had before your first marathon. We know that 603 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 3: this marathon has a lot of first timers in the mix. 604 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 3: I feel like we would be really missing a big 605 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 3: opportunity if we didn't offer them that this. 606 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 1: Is random, but remember what socks were your favorite on 607 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: your long run, Like for blister prevention, sometimes you forget 608 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: with all the details, you probably have a pair of 609 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: socks that was like the most comfortable on your long run. 610 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: Don't forget to wear those on Sunday. I feel like 611 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: everyone's always, you know, busting out a new pair and 612 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 1: then a blister is just going to ruin your day. 613 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: Yeah no, And you feel like such a whimp because 614 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: they're so small, but they're so painful. 615 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 3: Small things is going to make a major difference. Reiterating here, 616 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 3: nothing new on race day does advice you wish you 617 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 3: had before your first marathon. 618 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 2: Stick to your fueling strategy. 619 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 5: Hopefully you've pressed practiced it in training, but make sure 620 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 5: you're taking that in particularly if it's on the warmer side, 621 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 5: you're gonna want to be hydrating. But if for some 622 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 5: reason it's on the cooler side, I think people you know, like, oh, 623 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 5: I don't need to hydrate. 624 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 2: It's not that hot. 625 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 5: It was eighty five when we sat down for that 626 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 5: panel and now it's a Chile morning. But the fueling 627 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 5: element is still really important, so make sure you stick 628 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 5: to that. And Arizona state rule of thumb here, drink early, 629 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 5: drink often, get it in early, and then you can 630 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 5: maybe skimp after twenty two miles or so. 631 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 2: Are you feeling nostalgic vah for us? I think I 632 00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 2: heard one chuckle at the ASU Ji. 633 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 3: Does is like, where are the ASU students going to 634 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 3: be on the course? And can I come hang out 635 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 3: with you? That's exactly what you want. That's exactly what 636 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 3: she wants. Also important when it comes to running a 637 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 3: marathon is the night before the marathon something you do 638 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 3: without fail before you go to bed. 639 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 2: The night before a marathon, Mollie hit me, I. 640 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: Make a list of everything I'm gonna need and what 641 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: my schedule is the next morning, and it includes the breakfast, 642 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: fueling if you can just I'm someone who just if 643 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: you write it down, then you don't feel it's like 644 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 1: flustered in the morning, especially with the adrenaline of race day, 645 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: you kind of forget stuff. So I pack, write my 646 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: schedule for the next day, and then when I wake 647 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: up in the morning, I'm on autopilot until the gun 648 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: goes off. So that's all that's really helped reduce my stress. 649 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 2: Doaz, what do you do the night before? 650 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think that's the main thing is 651 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 5: reduce stress as much as possible, Like have the plan 652 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 5: for transportation, what time you're going to wake up, all 653 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 5: of those things. A thing that I do just for 654 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 5: the mental side of the race part is write the 655 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 5: race plan, but also look back at your training log, 656 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 5: like look back at that first week of running where 657 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 5: you thought like, there's no way you did. I was 658 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 5: with Anthony a couple of weeks ago and his I 659 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 5: reminded him. I was like, your first run was five 660 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 5: miles and it took like two hours. And you texted 661 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 5: me and you're like, I walked a bunch. It was 662 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 5: super hard, and I don't know if I can do this, 663 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 5: Like look back at that and see where you started 664 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 5: and see all the work you put in, how much 665 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 5: you've improved, and just be really proud of that. It's 666 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 5: this is the celebration for all of that work. So 667 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 5: it's it's a really fun day and be ready to 668 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:30,479 Speaker 5: enjoy it. 669 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 3: When we think about being proud and we think about 670 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 3: the pig wins from your career, do you have a 671 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 3: proudest moment? 672 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 2: I'm not sure. 673 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 4: I mean finishing my first marathon. 674 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: I was probably pretty close, because it was the one 675 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: thing where like you're really afraid that like not only 676 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: will you maybe not hit your goal, you might not 677 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: finish the race, you might have to stop and to 678 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: find like even elite runners are worried about running twenty 679 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: six point two at the pace they're trying to run 680 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: it like it's it's everyone is. 681 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 4: Pretty wretch to try to heave it on. So I 682 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 4: think when I crossed. 683 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: That finish line, I was pretty proud of myself because 684 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: there was some major doubt there and. 685 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 4: It's very empowering when you can pull it off. 686 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:10,959 Speaker 2: So I hope you all feel that. 687 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 3: And is the madra the thing that you lean into 688 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 3: when that doubt really creeps in? 689 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 4: It is? 690 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 2: It is? 691 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: Especially because like I was alone for a lot of 692 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,719 Speaker 1: the race and I just needed something to engage in. 693 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, that was. 694 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 3: Really helpful, so helpful again, going back to that mantra 695 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 3: can really be the thing that helps you get through 696 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 3: the difficult moments. And of course also knowing your why, 697 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 3: why it is that you showed up in the first place, 698 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 3: reflecting on all of that opportunity cost and like Dez said, 699 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 3: looking back at all of the training that you've done, 700 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 3: and feeling confident that you put in the work to 701 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 3: show up there and do exactly what you're setting out 702 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 3: to do. Come this weekend or maybe if you're listening 703 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 3: at home, whenever you tell that line for twenty six 704 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 3: point two proudest moment for you, Dez, Do you have one. 705 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's anytime that I was counted out, 706 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 5: or you know, you thought you accomplished something you thought 707 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 5: you couldn't. So there's a few different things, but I'll 708 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 5: go with the finishing at the two and sixteen Olympic 709 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 5: Marathon and I had to drop. I've run like thirty marathons, 710 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 5: thirty one now in my career, and I've only DNFD once, 711 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 5: but it was the twenty twelve games and it was heartbreaking, 712 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 5: and you go like, I don't know if I'll ever 713 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 5: get to cross an Olympic marathon finish line. So four 714 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 5: years later, make the team again, the whole thing, and 715 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 5: you know, I didn't finish exactly where I wanted or 716 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 5: run the time exactly that I wanted, but I got 717 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 5: across the finish line and that was that was really special. 718 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 5: It was probably you know, you just don't know if 719 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 5: you're going to have that opportunity, and so that. 720 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 3: Was I was really proud of that, so so special. 721 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 3: Something to definitely be proud of. Twenty sixty Olympics. I 722 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 3: have a fun fact for all of you. These two 723 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 3: women on this age. Were roommates, Yeah, at the twenty 724 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 3: sixteen Olympics. Reflecting on that experience, is there anything that 725 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 3: we should know about what it's like to room with 726 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 3: Mollie's Is there anything we you know about? 727 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 2: Rooming with death is so messy? Now? 728 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 4: We actually, because of our events, we didn't. It was 729 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 4: kind of like I was exiting as you were entering 730 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 4: type of thing. 731 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 2: Like we didn't overlap a ton, so it was great. 732 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 2: We didn't bother each other. 733 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 3: Is there anything that you would keep in the room 734 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 3: that was a must? 735 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: I mean the rooms were just like all our kids. Yeah, 736 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: just like all our free stuff. They give you a 737 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: lot of stuff. 738 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 5: I think that you probably already had them done. But 739 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 5: Mollie's nails are a big things. 740 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 2: Molly is known for her nails. 741 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 4: I'm not sure if the fumes hit you. 742 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 6: It was fun, but it's like she had them done. 743 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 6: They were ready. 744 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 2: There are fierce. 745 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 5: And then I got to watch her race and just 746 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 5: really set the tone American record in the ten k 747 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 5: and set the tone for the games. 748 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, we were early and you guys were later. 749 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was. 750 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 2: The first day, right, yep. Wow. 751 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 3: I asked this thing about the roommates in the situation, 752 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 3: because like when I think to like the roommates that 753 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 3: I had, like in college, it was just a very 754 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 3: different scenario than I would imagine being roommates at the 755 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 3: Olympic Games would look like, you know what I mean. 756 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 2: Very very small rooms. 757 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 5: I think it's like, yeah, your stuff is in the bag, 758 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 5: and then you're just like your stuff. 759 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 4: Basically, it's not luxurious at the Olympic village at all. 760 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 2: Not luxurious at all. 761 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 3: Well, again, so excited to be here with all of 762 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 3: you this weekend and every Woman's marathon. So excited to 763 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 3: be out there cheering on not only this woman to 764 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 3: my left here first marathon six months postpartum. 765 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 2: Uh, but then also all of you. 766 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 3: You have an opportunity to offer this group of humans 767 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 3: one piece of advice before we let you go today. 768 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 2: Where are you gonna go with it? 769 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: Mollyh Yeah, you've worked hard to get here. Don't just 770 00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: credit that that's done amazing things for you and I'm Sunday. 771 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,959 Speaker 1: Just let it all pour out, enjoy the energy, and 772 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: when you cross the finish line, you're gonna just have 773 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: that tool in your pocket of like, look what I did, 774 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: like what I can do. 775 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 2: It's gonna make you feel. 776 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 4: Great about so many other things that maybe you have 777 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 4: doubts about. 778 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 2: Even though it's just running. Sometimes it's more than just running. 779 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 2: So good luck. I would say, you're stronger than you think. 780 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 5: I think you'll have a moment where it's hard and 781 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 5: you'll want to quit, and you'll want to give up, 782 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 5: and just remember you're stronger than you think. Dig a 783 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 5: little deeper, try again, never give up. Out there, there's 784 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 5: always just a little bit more than you thought. 785 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 6: So go out, test yourself, have fun. 786 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 2: This is the reward for the hard work. 787 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,479 Speaker 5: And when you cross the finish line, if you haven't 788 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 5: done this before, you go from being a runner to 789 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 5: a marathonor and that's really special. 790 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 2: So enjoy the. 791 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 3: Day going from a runner to a marathonor so special. 792 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,399 Speaker 3: I remember I ran Chicago recently and I was having 793 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 3: a hard day, and I kept saying to myself, if 794 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 3: it was easy, everyone would do it. That's what I 795 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 3: kept repeating. And so remember, as Does said earlier, you 796 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 3: signed up to do a hard thing. 797 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 2: Now you get to do the hard thing. 798 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 3: So happy that we were able to have this conversation 799 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 3: here For those that aren't I mean, obviously we're all 800 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 3: following along with you, but in case there are people 801 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 3: listening to this on the show that don't keep up 802 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 3: with you just yet. 803 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 2: Where do we find you? On social Molly, I'm. 804 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 1: For Instagram at Molly Huddle. My podcast is keeping track. 805 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: We don't have a very regular schedule, but it's there. 806 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: And my book currently out is How She Did It. 807 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 1: And then there's one. 808 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 4: Coming out probably next year or a little later, so 809 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 4: up in the. 810 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 2: Air that progress does. 811 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:46,280 Speaker 5: Where do we find You does underscore Linden on Instagram 812 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 5: nobody asked us what does and carry a podcast and 813 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 5: choosing to run is my book that is out in 814 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 5: the world. 815 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 3: Out in the world. I'm over at Emily a Body 816 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 3: and at Hurdle Podcast. As we say on the show, 817 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 3: another Hurdle conquered. Catch you guys next time.