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Speaker 1: Good mornings, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks

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Speaker 1: Podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Sunday, July seventh, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four. I'm j Ea Skeets here in the yard

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Speaker 1: and alongside me as always, that's Tass.

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Speaker 2: Mellus Basketball free agency lovers.

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Speaker 1: This one's for you, and you see him here on screen.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to everyone joining us on YouTube making the

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Speaker 1: magic happen. Super producer JD.

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Speaker 2: Hello, there he is.

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Speaker 1: How are you, JD? How the last couple of days.

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Speaker 3: Been Yeah, it's been great. It's been hot. Lots of pickleball,

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Speaker 3: lots of beer, lots of just chilling by the pool.

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Speaker 3: You know, Well it's gonna get hotter, yes, I know.

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Speaker 1: Did you see the temperatures in Vegas where we're headed

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Speaker 1: to later this week?

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Speaker 3: Forty seven celsius?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, forty seven celsius. But it's hey, it's

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Speaker 1: a dry heat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's BIG's It was ninety five percent humidity

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Speaker 2: today in Atlanta. Well for a jog, I think the

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Speaker 2: worst I jogged many miles. I think the worst part

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Speaker 1: Wow, good for you though, better man eye on today.

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Speaker 1: We are here for emergency podcast. Look, we're getting a

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Speaker 1: little lucy goosey with that definition. But we had some

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Speaker 1: big news last night. Let's jump into it. DeMar Dea

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Speaker 1: Rosen has joined the Sacramento Kings through a sign in trade.

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Speaker 1: The deal is a three year, seventy six million dollar agreement.

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Speaker 1: I think Woe said seventy four, Sham says seventy six. Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's call it seventy five. That will send Harrison Barnes

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Speaker 1: and an unprotected twenty thirty one pick Swamp to the Spurs.

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Speaker 1: The Bulls received former first round pick Chris Duarte, two

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Speaker 1: second round picks, and cash for cooperating. So it is

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Speaker 1: a three way deal here, tass. We can go through

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Speaker 1: sort of each team. We got to start with the

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Speaker 1: Sacramento Kings getting the star player in this. What was

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Speaker 1: your initial reaction last night to DeRozan going to the Kings.

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Speaker 2: Well, seeing the way it was received by Kings fans

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Speaker 2: this choreographed? It almost felt like a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a choreographed show, the opening act coming out to the

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Speaker 2: Summer League at Sacramento's Arena, was the King's GM Monte McNair.

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Speaker 2: He was the opening act that felt like they knew

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Speaker 2: that DeRozan was traded, so they clapped for him. But

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Speaker 2: then DeRozan came out as well after meeting with owner

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Speaker 2: of Vivic Ranadive, and he came out and everybody was cheer.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was a real ovation. They were exceected.

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Speaker 2: They were excited for the primary event here. And then

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Speaker 4: So it almost like, yeah, this is the show, baby,

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Speaker 4: but I think the the PA announcer, the actually the

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Speaker 2: Kendrick Lamar is not like us. Right away he was

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Speaker 2: like waiting to see what's what's the reception going to

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Speaker 2: I gotta play this off. Boom he played it, and yeah,

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow used to be a Drake man, and he still

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Speaker 2: So I mean this was a show. I know, like

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: This was a show. This was fun. This is great

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Speaker 2: for Damar frankly, just to be able to go to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And like, I guess it was Wednesday. It's

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Speaker 1: I think it was on NBA today, and he was

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Speaker 1: describing the Kings as like a dark horse to get DeRozan.

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Speaker 1: And so this started to gain momentum here, this idea

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Speaker 2: Yes, she's excited, she heard about it here. You want

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know to go back to the

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Speaker 1: A gating momentum and whether or not we should even

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Speaker 1: But DeRozan's like the most accomplished free agent signing commitment whatever.

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Speaker 1: We're calling this the sign and trade that the Kings

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Speaker 1: you know, again, as this gain momentum sort of zeroed in, like, hey,

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Speaker 2: There last night. Absolutely, he can't be a number one guy.

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Speaker 2: his mid thirties, last year, he almost had eight free

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Speaker 2: On the offensive end, he plays a lot. He led

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Speaker 2: I think Walton McNair is not done in terms of that.

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Speaker 2: But he did play better as a participant in the

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Speaker 1: Hey, what's up Trey Herby jumping on here?

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Speaker 2: Oh he played defense in Chicago? I heard did he did? He?

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Speaker 6: He took some charges in your Drosan. Look, it's sad

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Speaker 6: when DeRozan leads your team. He's a supremely cool guy,

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Speaker 6: very fun to watch. He's going to hit some incredible

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Speaker 6: But I'm interested for the Sacramento Kings because they had

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Speaker 6: I'm sad to see derosan go. But you know the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sure the Bulls have gotten more than Chris Duarte

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I'm a big Darte head. I think the

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Speaker 6: Really well, I think Balls fans are actually happy that

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Speaker 6: is the right thing here. Yeah, they're not getting a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Bulls summer here, when you're like sort of

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Speaker 6: What do you think, all right, player was getting Harrison

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Speaker 1: It's more about or not.

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Speaker 6: So I think for the Spurs facilitating the deal, they

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Tess, what do you think about San Antonio here?

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Speaker 2: knows what Sacramento is going to be like. But for

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Speaker 2: the Spurs, they traded before this trade would happen. They

428
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Speaker 2: traded Davonte Graham see you later to Charlotte basically to

429
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Speaker 2: save money to be able to absorb Harrison Barnes.

430
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Speaker 1: Cons there was a bunch of this going on when

431
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 1: that happened, for sure, right the fingers.

432
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Speaker 2: Yeah, what is going on in San Antonio? Charlotte? Then

433
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 2: just releasing Devanta Graham who wants them. It obviously did

434
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Speaker 2: not work in San Antonio, but this is smart. Yes,

435
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 2: when you're talking about Chris Paul and Castle and in

436
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,160
Speaker 2: the back court, it's nice to have a vet wing

437
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 2: that can obviously play d I mean, the Kings are

438
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 2: going to miss him a little bit on that side,

439
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,680
Speaker 2: and that's why they gotta to size up a little bit.

440
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Speaker 2: And obviously Wemby. So yeah, they're going to be fighting

441
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Speaker 2: for the play in spot. I don't see why that's uh,

442
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 2: that's out of the question. I mean, there's just not

443
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Speaker 2: a lot of bad teams in the West, so they're

444
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Speaker 2: going to be fighting even for the play in spot.

445
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Speaker 2: But that's exciting. I think that's that's the exciting part

446
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Speaker 2: of this.

447
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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. Any other final thoughts here, trey On

448
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,120
Speaker 1: on this three way sign and trade deal to Rosan

449
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 1: going to the Kings Bolls picking up some pieces instead

450
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Speaker 1: of nothing, and obviously the Spurs getting that pick swap.

451
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Speaker 1: What do you think.

452
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Speaker 6: I haven't been on the internet very much this morning

453
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Speaker 6: or last night since the trade went down, but I

454
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Speaker 6: assume it's just universal acclaim for Chicago in this trade,

455
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Speaker 6: right because people have been telling me they need to

456
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Speaker 6: blow it up and move on and be bad for

457
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,919
Speaker 6: you know, the past two seasons they didn't do it.

458
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Speaker 6: But now with the moves they've made so far, bringing

459
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Speaker 6: in Giddy for Alex Caruso and then now letting de Rosen,

460
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 6: you know, basically walk for nothing, but getting back a

461
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Speaker 6: deep bench guy and some second round picks. I assume

462
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Speaker 6: people are now thrilled with the direction of the Chicago

463
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 6: Bulls because they're going to be bad. They've got a

464
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Speaker 6: top ten protected first round pick going to San Antonio

465
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Speaker 6: next year's draft. It seems likely that their position to

466
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Speaker 6: be able to keep that one going forward. It's top

467
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Speaker 6: eight protected the couple of seasons after that, So maybe

468
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Speaker 6: the twenty sixth draft is look okay for the Bulls

469
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Speaker 6: as well, but might they might have to pay it off,

470
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Speaker 6: I guess in twenty twenty seven. But yeah, there was

471
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 6: an opportunity for teams to bottom out I think this

472
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Speaker 6: year because, like you're saying, in the Western Conference task

473
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Speaker 6: basically everybody except for Utah and who else is gonna

474
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Speaker 6: be good. I mean, there's two bad teams in the

475
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Speaker 6: Western Conference, there's probably another three in the Eastern Conference,

476
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Speaker 6: and you can add the Bulls to that list. I

477
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Speaker 6: wonder if they'll be able to attach a pick and

478
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Speaker 6: move off Lavine. I wonder if they'll be able to

479
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Speaker 6: do something similar with Vouch. My guess is that they're

480
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Speaker 6: more likely coming back because the Bulls are clearly in

481
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Speaker 6: rebuild mode right now, so they don't want to be

482
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Speaker 6: attaching assets on the way out, and I think maybe

483
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Speaker 6: getting a couple of second round picks, and this Derozen

484
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Speaker 6: deal is part of that as well, saying we're getting

485
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Speaker 6: a little more into our asset chests so that we

486
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Speaker 6: can hopefully position ourselves better to actually win a playoff series,

487
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 6: because it's been since twenty fifteen for the Bulls to

488
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Speaker 6: win a playoff series, and with the moves they've made

489
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Speaker 6: in June and July at thinking necessarily that twenty twenty

490
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Speaker 6: five is going to be breaking the streak, but twenty

491
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Speaker 6: thirty is looking nice.

492
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Speaker 1: Was the only game the Bulls, only playoff game the

493
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Speaker 1: Bulls won, the one where DeRozan went for like forty

494
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Speaker 1: one Is that correct against the Bucks? Bucks? Yeah, wow,

495
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Speaker 1: that's pretty well to think.

496
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Speaker 6: I was skates. I was flying home in betweens Game

497
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Speaker 6: two and Game three and people were Middleton was hurt

498
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Speaker 6: with an injury, and Game two people were saying, wait

499
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Speaker 6: a second, the Bulls pull this one off. Biggest playoff

500
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Speaker 6: home loss in Game three. Oh yeah, it's franchise history

501
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Speaker 6: and I was there.

502
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Speaker 2: Thanks. Oh, that's that's biggest home lok A thirty spanker, right,

503
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Speaker 2: it was by thirty.

504
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Speaker 6: Oh it was a bad baby, yeah, yeah, yeah. Tony

505
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Speaker 6: Bradley went five for five in the fourth quarter, though

506
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Speaker 6: it wasn't his fault.

507
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Speaker 2: Wow.

508
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Speaker 1: I will say, like looking at the trade grades from

509
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Speaker 1: this that I've seen, people love what the Spurs did,

510
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: like getting in there, getting another pick, swap Addison, Harrison Barnes,

511
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Speaker 1: like another vet like you said, so we just went

512
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Speaker 1: over that. So love that. A lot of a grades

513
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Speaker 1: on that. The Bulls. It's more like people are like, yeah,

514
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 1: at least they're sort of leaning into being bad. They

515
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Speaker 1: got something in return, though there's a lot of pushback,

516
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Speaker 1: like they waited too long? How did they not get

517
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Speaker 1: a first round pick for Giddy? How did they maybe

518
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 1: not move off of DeRozan earlier? Again, you went over that.

519
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: So whatever you see in some b's and c's and

520
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: stuff like that, it's the King's grade that's like people

521
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: really love this or people really hate this, and when

522
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: the people that don't like it, they're just pointing out

523
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: like they just maybe got a little impatient right, and

524
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Speaker 1: that they're sort of rushing in here. You still have

525
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: Fox and the bonus. They're pretty young, Keegan Murray two

526
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: years left on his rookie contract. Did they make a

527
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 1: too high of risk here for a thirty five year

528
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: old DeRozan and whether he fits the team stuff we've

529
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Speaker 1: all gone over. I can I get that side of

530
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Speaker 1: the equation. But again, it's a huge talent upgrade. They

531
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Speaker 1: want to stay competitive, so we'll see. Can they got

532
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Speaker 1: to sort of keep an average defense and get back

533
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Speaker 1: to that elite defense or offense excuse me from two

534
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: years prior? Can they meld those together? But those are

535
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Speaker 1: the grades I've sort of seen from most people. Task

536
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Speaker 1: Do you have any final thoughts on this? Because we've

537
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Speaker 1: got a little more news I want to slip in,

538
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: but any more thoughts on this?

539
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how you can be upset about

540
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 2: what the Kings did going forward and trading Harrison Barnes

541
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Speaker 2: essentially for DeMar De Rosen. It's an upgrade, It's definitely

542
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 2: an upgrade. And yeah, DeMar de Rosan's turning thirty five soon.

543
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 2: But as I said, he led the league in minutes

544
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 2: played last year. I mean, he keeps playing and he

545
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 2: just wants to win a freaking playoff series. He hasn't

546
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 2: won a playoff series in a long time since he

547
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 2: was a Toronto Raptor, so he wants to get out

548
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 2: there and play. And the same goes for their top guys.

549
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 2: They want to get better as well. Apparently darreon Fox

550
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 2: met with DeMar de Rosen and tried to convince him

551
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 2: to be happy with the sign and trade to get there,

552
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 2: and it worked. That's the thing they have to go forward.

553
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 2: It does suck that they are in the Western Conference.

554
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 2: We should see these teams in the playoffs one through

555
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 2: sixteen and get rid of a couple of Eastern Conference

556
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 2: teams because this team at forty six and thirty six

557
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 2: despite injuries, as I mentioned to Monk and Herder, I mean,

558
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,239
Speaker 2: that's a pretty good season and in the East they

559
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: would have been laughing into the postseason. So it does

560
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 2: kind of suck for them. But yeah, I think the

561
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 2: Kings did very well in this one. At least go

562
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: for it and probably they've got a couple more moves

563
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: to go.

564
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

565
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Speaker 6: Well, Josen moves weren't well received when he went to Chicago,

566
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 6: and I said, you're crazy, And then it worked perfectly

567
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 6: for six months, and then it turned out everybody was

568
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 6: right that it's hard to build a team around DeMar

569
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 6: DeRozan and that the ceiling isn't very high. But you

570
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,239
Speaker 6: look at the Kings. They had a chance to make

571
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 6: it to the playoffs last year and they lost to

572
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 6: a Pelican's team that was missing Zion Williamson and had

573
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 6: a Gimbi brandon ingram, so things had to change. Does

574
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 6: this elevate them near the top of the Western Conference?

575
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 6: Not a chance like this gives them a chance to,

576
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 6: I think, compete for the fifth seed. But everybody's getting

577
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 6: better in Sacramento. They had fifteen years when they didn't

578
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 6: make the playoffs, so you can understand why they did this.

579
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Speaker 6: I don't think it really is going to change their

580
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 6: fate all that much. But man, Sacramento is gonna play

581
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 6: some incredible one hundred and thirty to one hundred and

582
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 6: twenty seven games. They will never be out of the game,

583
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 6: They will never win games completely by blowouts where you're

584
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 6: feeling totally comfortable and it will come down to the

585
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 6: last shot. And they got three guys who can make

586
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 6: awesome last second shots because they take some incredibly tough ones.

587
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 6: Fox Derozen Monk. It doesn't matter if you've got a

588
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 6: guy on them, they're getting the shot up and a

589
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 6: lot of times it goes in.

590
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Speaker 1: Yeah, sacram Relo kicks next season gonna be entertaining regardless

591
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: of their final win loss record. Some other news just

592
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 1: chuck this in here. Lebron James is taking a nearly

593
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: three million dollar discount to keep the Lakers under that

594
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: dreaded second apron. Lebron is signing a two year, one

595
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: hundred and one point three five to five million dollar

596
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: deal instead of the two year one hundred and four

597
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: million dollar maximum he could have resigned for so task

598
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: that keeps the Lakers just under that one hundred and

599
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: eighty eight point nine million dollar second eight, which I

600
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: mean it's actually important if they want to make moves

601
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: here and still want to try and trade guys and

602
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: all that, because once you hit that second apron, it

603
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: gets damn near impossible. But any thoughts on Lebron, you're

604
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: taking a pay.

605
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 2: Cut, Yeah, a tiny pay cut. Yeah, there was rumors

606
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 2: that he would have reduced his salary by like fifteen

607
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: mil if they're going to be able to go get

608
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: a big name player. But listen, I love free agency time.

609
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 2: I'm not into the Apron talk that much. And the difference. Yeah,

610
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: the Lakers are only limited to first Apron restrictions, which

611
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: include not being able to acquire a play of via

612
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: sign and trade, not being able to use more than

613
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 2: the taxpayer mid Level exception worth approximately five point two million,

614
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 2: not being allowed to use a pre existing trade exception,

615
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 2: or taking back additional salary in a trade. So it's

616
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: pretty restricted. I mean, this is a pay cut, but basically,

617
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 2: you're going through the season with these fifteen guys unless

618
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: you trade a large content for a large contract. So

619
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 2: they wanted to go get somebody out there, whether it's

620
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: one of the guys who was dealt who were dealt

621
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: to another team, whether it was Clay somebody. They wanted somebody.

622
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 2: And yeah, from the second Aprons or the first Apron,

623
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Speaker 2: ain't that big a deal. If he took a real

624
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 2: pay cut, then we'd be talking about somebody being added

625
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 2: to their team. Trade.

626
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: What do you think.

627
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 6: Lebron said he was gonna take a pay cut, and

628
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 6: I guess he did. It does give them a little

629
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 6: bit more flexibility. But this has got to be a

630
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 6: disappointing offseason for the Los Angeles Lakers because we heard

631
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 6: it the trade deadline. Come Draft night, they're gonna have

632
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 6: three first round picks to trade. They're gonna be going

633
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 6: star hunting for a third superstar to put next to

634
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 6: Lebron and Ad Instead, you got too Lebron, James's on

635
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 6: your team in Dalton connect That's all that's happened for

636
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 6: the Lakers so far. They're gonna have to I think

637
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 6: what this is happening here? Lebron keeping them underneath the

638
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 6: second Apron kind of just pushes the team building down

639
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 6: the road a little bit, gives them an opportunity to

640
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 6: do something interesting as we get further into the summer,

641
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 6: and then at the trade deadline as well, because the

642
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 6: Lakers team as constituted didn't improve enough to make a

643
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 6: difference in the Western Conference. You got an old rookie

644
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Speaker 6: and you got a fifty fifth pick, and that's basically

645
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 6: been the changes for the Lakers at this point. But

646
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 6: maybe some team decides they need to sell at the

647
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 6: trade deadline. The Lakers still have a couple of first

648
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 6: round picks they can use, and they can make trades

649
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,479
Speaker 6: a little bit more easily since they are beneath the

650
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Speaker 6: second apron. So I think good on Lebron to give

651
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 6: back that three million that his son, of course is

652
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 6: getting paid. Yeah, that's the part.

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Speaker 1: The family man.

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00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 6: Exactly right, exactly right. It's kind of just like given

655
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Speaker 6: an allowance. But it works. At least Rob gets to

656
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Speaker 6: cook a little bit more. We'll see if he actually

657
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 6: does something here.

658
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't come back from the groceries.

659
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 6: He's chilling, man.

660
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: We'll see. But yeah, there's this idea that the Lakers

661
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: could salary dump a couple of their veteran minimum contracts.

662
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: Maybe you have to attach second round picks to like

663
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Speaker 1: get somebody to actually take those guys. Could create some

664
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Speaker 1: roster spots and then could give you the flexibility to

665
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: use that five point two million dollar taxpayer mid level exception.

666
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,479
Speaker 1: I don't know who you'd be getting with that, Like,

667
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: is Gary Trent Junior going to be going for that?

668
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: Maybe Dinwitty definitely something more similar to that. But that's

669
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Speaker 1: that's when they have to open up the roster spots.

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Speaker 1: If they can even do that. We had a bunch

671
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: of other sort of deals just to chuck them all

672
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: at you. Miles Bridges agreeing to a three year, seventy

673
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: five million dollar deal. He's returning to the Hornets. Caleb

674
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: Martin signing a four year, thirty two million dollar deal

675
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: with the seventy six ers. He's going to slot into

676
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: that power forward slot. The Warriors got Buddy Healed guaranteed

677
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: two years twenty one million from the seventy six ers

678
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: in assign and trade the Magic and Franz Wagner agreed

679
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: to a huge extension two hundred and twenty four million

680
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: if he makes all NBA two hundred and sixty nine million,

681
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: and then a bunch of other smaller transactions. Any that

682
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: you want to talk about their tasks or surprised you

683
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: from the last couple of days.

684
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, in a weird way. With the Warriors losing Clay

685
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 2: but adding the Anthony Melton, Kyle Anderson and now Buddy Healed,

686
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: it's interesting. I mean really their top two now in

687
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 2: Curry and Green plus Kuminga and the dream of Wiggans

688
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 2: getting back to himself makes it interesting and these three

689
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 2: contracts somewhat somewhat like if you go rose colored glasses here,

690
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 2: you say maybe maybe this Warriors team. So that part

691
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 2: is interesting. I think that Caleb Caleb Martin with the

692
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: Sixers is even more interesting. The fact that, I mean

693
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: they are so top heavy they need to add supporting guys.

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Speaker 2: And you know, Trey brought him up that Caleb Martin

695
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 2: is a Celtics killer. So that's all right. I mean

696
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 2: he plays he yeah, he literally is going to play

697
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 2: along with with Mbi, George Maxi, him and Ubery could

698
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: finish games. So that's the postseason lineup that you're going

699
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 2: to see against the Celtics. So that part is they

700
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: did as well as they possibly can.

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00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: It feels like, yeah, Trey, any of those or anyones

702
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Speaker 1: that I miss, smaller ones that you want to address.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think those are both good deals. The ones

704
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 6: that task hit on the Warriors, like they've got some

705
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 6: good role players around Steph Curry and they need Draymond

706
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 6: to stay on the court because the record was much

707
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 6: better when he was playing. He knows how to find

708
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 6: Curry offensively. They're in the mix for a playoff spot.

709
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 6: I think getting the splash Buddies United there. I also

710
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 6: think Caleb Martin nice for the seventy six ers. They

711
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 6: needed a power forward. I think he's more of a

712
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 6: forward than a power kind of guy, so they could

713
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 6: probably still use some additional size, but they've had a

714
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 6: really nice summer. The other one that's interesting to me

715
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 6: is Franz Wagner. That is a ton of money for

716
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 6: that guy, and it really signifies that the Orlando Magic

717
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 6: they're rebuil old period is over and now it's the

718
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 6: hard part where you actually got to start being a

719
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 6: good team. Surprise season last year went to a game seven.

720
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 6: Powlow acquitted himself very well in the playoffs. But now

721
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 6: is the really challenging part of building back up a team.

722
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 6: The teardown is easy, the come up is easy. But

723
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Speaker 6: when teams know that you're good, and when the team

724
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 6: building starts to get a little bit harder because your

725
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 6: players are coming off rookie contracts, that's when it gets

726
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 6: really really tough. Because this, like we're saying huge deal

727
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 6: for Franz Wagner, Polo is due for another one coming up.

728
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Speaker 6: We know about the first aking apron and the second apron,

729
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 6: so it makes teams just harder to put together and

730
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 6: to keep together. So it's going to be incumbent on

731
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Speaker 6: the Magic Brass to put the right guys around Polo

732
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Speaker 6: and Franz, and they might be tricky to build a

733
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 6: round because you don't have a lot of teams that

734
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Speaker 6: have two guys that are six' eight to six' ten

735
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 6: who handle the ball all the time for you and

736
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 6: that don't shoot it. Really well like everybody would love

737
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 6: to have a three and, point guard that player doesn't.

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Speaker 6: Really exist a THREE and. D center there's like three

739
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Speaker 6: of them IN, the nba and Now the magic need

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00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 6: those at. Both positions we'll see what they're able to

741
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Speaker 6: do in the.

742
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Speaker 1: Coming future we'll talk more about we'll talk more about

743
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: these transactions On Tomorrow's no. Dunk's Podcast fred katz joining.

744
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: The show we'll talk About the nicks and what they

745
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: did this offseason and some of these other deals that

746
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: we talked about. Here today i'm sure we'll get Into

747
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: the DeRozan going To the kings with him. As well

748
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: but before, we go because It is, Sunday here, sunday

749
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Speaker 1: morning we have our four finals For the olympic. Qualifying

750
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: tournaments they're all happening today we're gonna find out the

751
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: final four teams going To. The Olympics It's grease Test.

752
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: Versus croatia We got Jill, versus latvia We got Lithuania Versus,

753
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 1: puerto rico And the Bahamas. Versus SPAIN and, i THINK

754
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: if i have, this correctly all four of those teams

755
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: are some home games in their. Own countries i'm Talking,

756
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: About greece i'm Talking, About Latvia, puerto Rico. And spain

757
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: so we'll see if they have the home court. Advantage there,

758
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: But Yeah greece. Croatia tasks do you like?

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00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 2: YOUR chances i like my chances. A, lot yeah they

760
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 2: took Care of. Luca yesterday greece. Eliminated him now To, play,

761
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: croatia yeah, at home you gotta have the ADVANTAGE that.

762
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: I guess, you know so you just mentioned all the

763
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 2: guys that. JUST signed i Wonder If dario sarachu's Now

764
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Speaker 2: A denver nuggets backup center slash forward is Playing for Croatia.

765
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: Against greece, YOU know i haven't been Following the croatia games,

766
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Speaker 2: all THAT but i mean THAT is i think. So

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Speaker 2: too he feels like he's like older Than de rozan

768
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Speaker 2: feels like a forty year, old man but he's. Only

769
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Speaker 2: thirty so him And the nuggets is going to be

770
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 2: pretty interesting this year that they got a backup big,

771
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 2: But yeah greece should take care. Of things latvia is

772
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: interesting because they Don't. Have porzingis They Have, davas burton's

773
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 2: who was also, just released and then he was asked. About,

774
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: it hey you just got released from your team and

775
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,959
Speaker 2: you how do you feel? About that and, HE said i, don't,

776
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 2: CARE right i.

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Speaker 1: DON'T care i care.

778
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 2: About this he cared About the latvia on, the front

779
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: which was. Very interesting anybody Can have burton's if You,

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Speaker 2: WANT burton's i guess. He's, available, Yeah shooter, so yes

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00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 2: the lot.

782
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: Being laser so we'll find out today who the final

783
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 1: four teams will be In. The olympics already have eight.

784
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Speaker 1: Of them but it's.

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Speaker 2: Fun to find THOSE. On tv it's, Like impossible oh these.

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Speaker 1: You haven't found these GAMES?

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Speaker 2: THE time i.

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Speaker 1: Hate, it anyway we'll. Find out would probably be a

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00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: lot of those. HOME teams, I mean I guess croatia

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Speaker 1: could Ups. At grease they are a. GOOD team I

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00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: think lapia Will, PROBABLY oh I guess brazil's not. Bad

799
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: either lithuania maybe takes Care Of, puerto Rico but albarado,

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Speaker 1: playing Well and spain will likely Beat the bahamas though

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00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: they got. Talent too those are pretty good, four finals

802
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: so we. Will see let's call. It there thanks everybody

803
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,439
Speaker 1: for joining us for this emergency podcast to break Down

804
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: the Kings. Getting DeRozan let's hear. Your thoughts are, you,

805
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: like yeah this, is good This keeps sacramento sort of

806
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: competitive there In. The west or is this too much

807
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: of a risk on the thirty five year Old de

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00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: rozan in his fit and the lack of three point

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00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: shooting and maybe? The defense what do? You think what

810
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: about the other teams and all the Other signings back

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow With, fred katz hit the, like button subscribe, podcast

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Speaker 1: listeners five star rating and Review boys good to see you,

813
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: as always until. Next Time clipper rose.

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Speaker 6: You heard it, here first have a, great time.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining Us In, remember damar he liked to

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Speaker 2: play a little Defense. At chicago check. These stats first

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