1 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Is this a great game or what with the Hall 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: of Famer Tim Kirkshin I'm his son, Jeff Kirkshen and Dad. 3 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: What an all star episode we had yesterday. A huge 4 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: thank you to Cal Ripkin Junior and his son Ryan 5 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: Ripkin for being our guests. 6 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 2: They were incredible. 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 3: And they put up with our nonsense. Jeff, I mean 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 3: really we asked them about Mario Kart who would win 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 3: an arm wrestling contest? I mean, only we would ask 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 3: stupid questions like that, and only the Ripkin boys would 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,639 Speaker 3: be good natured enough to go along with us on this. 12 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 3: We had a wonderful time. But Jeff, I need to 13 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 3: ask a question. I am terrible on Twitter. I think 14 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 3: at it. I don't even understand it. So you sent 15 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 3: something out on Twitter about the Ripken episode, and the 16 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 3: first thing I see is somebody writes in dope crossover. 17 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 3: Now what does that mean? It followed a Kirkchin and Kirkchin, 18 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 3: Ripkin and Ripkin podcast episode and we get dope crossover. Now? 19 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: Would you please attempt to explain to sixty eight year 20 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 3: old pop up who's worried? Now? What does that mean? 21 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: Well, we did talk about your crossover in the episode 22 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: because we hit on you and Cawripken Junior playing quite 23 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 1: a few basketball games together. But I hate to tell 24 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: you that it's not about your basketball crossover, my guess. 25 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: So let's start with dope. The word dope is a 26 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: good thing, Dad, I know that. 27 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 3: You know. 28 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: We call each other dopes, and dope is also something 29 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: that maybe back in the seventies you would smoke. 30 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: Maybe not you particularly, I. 31 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: Don't know me right, Oh, keep going dope in twenty 32 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: twenty five is a good thing, Like, oh, that's dope 33 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: means that's great, or that's awesome, or that's that's perfect. 34 00:01:59,040 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 3: That's cool. 35 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: So them saying dope crossover is like crossover is between 36 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: the brands of Ryan Ripkin and his show, The Ryan 37 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: Ripkins Show, and obviously Cawarbkin Junior, the Hall of Famer 38 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: and our show. Is this a great game or what crossing? 39 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: Over coming together to an episode together? So it's a 40 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: dope crossover because it's an awesome joining of our brands, 41 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: all of us together. 42 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 2: Does that make sense? 43 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 3: Well, if that's what she meant by it, yes, and 44 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 3: then I'm therefore I'm happy about this as opposed to 45 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 3: someone being upset that would bother me, because there's no 46 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 3: way anyone could be upset with the podcast we did 47 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 3: with the Ripkins. It was really fun to do. Okay, well, 48 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 3: that makes me feel a little bit better. 49 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: But I'll make you feel even better in saying that. 50 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: I do think you, still, at age sixty eight, have 51 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: a pretty dope crossover on the court. 52 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 3: All right. I have an artificial hip, Jeff, I have 53 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 3: no more crossover. All right. Archie Clark taught me that 54 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 3: in the sixties, late sixties, and and then Alan Iverson 55 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 3: perfected it. It's the greatest single off the dribble move 56 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 3: in the history of the NBA was Alan Iverson's crossover 57 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 3: with both hands. All right. Off the topic, Jeff, keep going. 58 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: Dad, I'm going to ask you a question, and this 59 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: might make you uncomfortable because I know there's one. 60 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: Thing that you and I don't breach the topic of 61 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: at all. Okay, But as your son, I'm kind of 62 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: coming to my life. 63 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 3: I think I know where you're going here. Keep going. 64 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: I am immediately following recording this. I have to in 65 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: my home. I picked up a kit at the doctor's office. 66 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: I have to provide a stool sample for my doctor, 67 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: and I listen TMI. I usually don't have problems going 68 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: to the bathroom. I have never been more shy to 69 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: use the restroom. Have you ever had to do this? 70 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: There's directions, there's different vials. 71 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 3: I am so nervous, Jeff, I have trouble peeing in 72 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 3: a cup. You have to poop in a cup? What 73 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 3: are you crazy? How are you gonna do that? 74 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 4: What? 75 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 3: What are the physics involved? Where? How are you gonna 76 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 3: attempt this? 77 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: They you have to go in a bowl that they 78 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: provide that sits between the seat and the toilet, and 79 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: then from there you put on some gloves and you 80 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: scoop some specimen out into the four different five different 81 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: tubes that they've provided. 82 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 2: Some can stay froom temperature. One kid has to go 83 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: in the freezer. 84 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 3: Dad. 85 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: I told my wife when I got. 86 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: Home, and she said we were gonna do it before 87 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: the podcast, and by we, I mean me because she 88 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:52,559 Speaker 1: says I want to be involved with that, and uh, 89 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it immediately following this, just to get 90 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: it done. 91 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 2: And I'm so scared. 92 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: But Emily told me I cannot keep anything in our 93 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: home that immediately after I do it, I have to 94 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: go back to the doctor and drop it off. 95 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: I was gonna mow the lawn after the podcast. 96 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: Today that plan is over because now I have to 97 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: immediately go back to. 98 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: The doctor's office in order to uh, in order to 99 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 2: do this. 100 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 3: All right, Jeff, talk about way too much information that 101 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 3: that was awful, But I'm so glad you're trying to 102 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 3: get yourself healthy. And I'm not making this up. Jeff. 103 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: This morning, the same morning that you're gonna poop in 104 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 3: a cup, we got a new toilet installed in our house. 105 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 3: How aboul what's toilette next to mom's office on the 106 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 3: first floor. 107 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that's needed. 108 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 3: So this has nothing to do with anything, Jeff. But 109 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 3: I'm always amused by how people use the word irony. 110 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 3: They used it incorrectly all the time. And look, I'm 111 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 3: not some you know, I'm not some English lit guy. 112 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 3: I'm not a wordsmith by any means. I've never been 113 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 3: to a comic convention. But it bothers me that people 114 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 3: don't use the word irony properly to me. In journalism school, 115 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 3: we were taught the textbook definition of irony is the 116 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 3: firehouse burned down. That would be ironic if the firehouse 117 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 3: burned down but you, let's see how good your memory is. 118 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 3: You have given me two, two cases of irony, and 119 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 3: let's see if you can remember either one. And one 120 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 3: of them has to do with a toilet. 121 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember that one, that the toilet store doesn't 122 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: have a bathroom. 123 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 3: That's true. You went looking for a toilet, you had 124 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 3: to go to the bathroom, and they said we don't 125 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 3: have a I mean, don't have a restroom here, sir. 126 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 3: All right now, Jeff, that is almost as good as 127 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 3: the firehouse burned out, yeap, and you went to Syracuse. 128 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 3: What's the other irony there? 129 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: The Carrier Dome formally the Carrier Dome named after Carrier 130 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: air Conditioning did not have air conditioning. 131 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 3: Right, Okay, again, it would be like being at the. 132 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: T Mobile Park and having no cell service. 133 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 3: Right, Okay, Very good, Jeff. You remember both of them, 134 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 3: and I think that both of those qualify as irony, 135 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 3: whereas a lot of other irony is just a coincidence. 136 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: So we'll believe it at that. But good memory, Jeff, 137 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 3: I'm so glad. 138 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: Okay, that's enough of the crap chat here, Dad, I 139 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: got a lot more. 140 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 3: That's enough of irony. That's enough of poop. That's that's 141 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 3: enough of toilets. 142 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 4: We need. 143 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: We need baseball is what we need. Give us the 144 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: takeaways of what you got going on, dad, Jeff. 145 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 3: We're taping this on Wednesday. Tuesday was just another amazing 146 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 3: day at baseball if you really look at what happened yesterday. 147 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 3: The Rockies, by the way, won a third straight game, 148 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 3: which is, you know, noteworthy in itself. Meanwhile, the Yankees 149 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 3: on the same day got shut out for the third 150 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 3: straight time. That ties a club record, meaning they've never 151 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 3: been shut out four games in a row. Those happened 152 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 3: on the same day. Also on the same day, Aaron 153 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 3: Judge oh for four three strikeouts and show hey, Otani 154 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 3: struck out four times. So the two best players in 155 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 3: the game both struck out three and four times. And 156 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 3: this is just another reminder, Jeff, how hard it is 157 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 3: to get a hit in the big leagues today. And 158 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 3: when those two guys are having trouble at the plate, 159 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 3: then everyone has trouble. By the way, that was the 160 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 3: fifth four strikeout game of Otani's career. And I'm just 161 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 3: saying that because you know, people strike out had an 162 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 3: alarming rate today. And to go back and talk about 163 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 3: you know, Stan Musial and Joe DiMaggio and Tony Gwynn 164 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 3: only had won three strikeout games in their entire career, 165 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 3: one each, and Otani's had five four strikeout games. That 166 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 3: might surprise some people, but it just proves again exactly 167 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 3: how hard it is to get a hit. Also yesterday, Jeff, 168 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: of course, Raphael Devers made his debut with the Giants. 169 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 3: He was the designated hitter, hitting third, and came out 170 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 3: publicly and said I'll play any position that you want 171 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 3: me to play. Does that surprise you at all, Jeff No. 172 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: I think at that point he kind of learned his lesson, 173 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: and now he wanted out of the regime that he 174 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: was in, and now he's saying, I can't do this again. 175 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: Can I can't fool this again. I learned my lesson. 176 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 1: And you know, listen, Boston Red Sox fans, dat we 177 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: got a lot of comments from your comments about Devers 178 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: on the Tuesday episode, and you had kind of seen 179 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: both sides. You felt like the Red Sox mismanaged the 180 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: situation with Bregman, but you also kind of said, but 181 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: at the same idea, you got to. 182 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 2: Be willing to work right, You're making a lot of money. 183 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: I thought it was really neat all of that, aside 184 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: to get a standing ovation from the Giants fans at 185 00:09:58,679 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: is first at bat. 186 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: I thought that was really cool. It gave me chills. 187 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: He ended up getting an RBI in his second at bat. Ever, 188 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: as a Giant, I just thought it. 189 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 3: Was a cool moment. Yeah, it was great. It was 190 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 3: great for baseball also that a player of that caliber 191 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 3: moves standing ovation. We move on from there. Also on Tuesday, Jeff, 192 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 3: we had a hit by pitch record, which I'm going 193 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 3: to tell you about when we get to the Quirk Chins. 194 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 3: And Jason Alexander got a victory yesterday. Does that mean 195 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 3: anything to you Seinfeld? Yes, So I put together a 196 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 3: team tim, which we will do later in the show. 197 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 3: And Jeff, you talk about a reach. Oh my god, 198 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 3: this reach is longer than Will Chamberlain's reach. Okay, but you, 199 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 3: being a Seinfeld expert, is going to help us help 200 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 3: me with this be Well, you know more than I 201 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 3: do about Seinfeld. I'm sure you. 202 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 2: Oh no, I think you know. Well, we'll find out. 203 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: You know who knows a lot is my brother in law, 204 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 1: Mark knows a lot about Seinfeld. All I know is 205 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: My favorite character is Lloyd Bron And that's because Lloyd 206 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: Bron was in your wedding. 207 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 3: Right. Matt McCoy, my dear friend from high school, played 208 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 3: Lloyd Brown. We were the same year at Did I 209 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 3: ever tell you I went to Walter Johnson High School? 210 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: So did Matt McCoy. 211 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 3: Yes, so that was pretty cool. Yes, okay, so Jason. 212 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 213 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 3: And the other takeaway there's only one other this week, Jeff, 214 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 3: but there are a million of them each week. We've 215 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 3: got to keep the show rolling is that cal Raleigh 216 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 3: had another great game for the Mariners. We talk about 217 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 3: him almost every week on this podcast because now he's 218 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 3: got twenty seven home runs. Drove in six runs on 219 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 3: Tuesday Night to spark an easy win over the Red 220 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 3: Sox so twenty seven homers, meaning the only primary catcher 221 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 3: who's got more home runs at the All Star Break 222 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 3: in the history of baseball is Johnny Benchhoe at twenty 223 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 3: eight in nineteen seventy. And I repeat about cal Roley, Jeff. 224 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 3: It'd be one thing if he was just some big 225 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 3: slugger who could hit homers from both sides of the plate. 226 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 3: He is a great defense catcher. He is a great 227 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 3: framer of pitches. He throws, he has a great throwing arm, 228 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,599 Speaker 3: He blocks balls in the dirt. He does everything that 229 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 3: a prime, a really good defensive catcher does, and he 230 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 3: it's in the middle of the order, and he's got 231 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 3: twenty seven home runs through Tuesday games. So that's pretty 232 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 3: darn good. Dad. 233 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: I have a bit of a quirkchin. Are you ready 234 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 2: to move on to the question? 235 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 3: We're on to the Quirkchins. 236 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: I thought I would just beat you to it because 237 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 1: I should have texted you ahead of time. Some people 238 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: noticed it on Twitter, but I wanted to get to 239 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: it as well. So I'm going to shout some people 240 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: out on Twitter and thank them for one listening to 241 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: the show. Peter Koppachuskinsky terrible pronunciation, also Mike Koola, both 242 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: of these gentlemen reaching out to us and saying, oh 243 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: my gosh, I hope that Tim Kirkshin and Jeff kirkshad 244 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: know this. I had already tracked this on Tuesday night. 245 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: I think it was Nope, Sorry night, the Phillies taking 246 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: on the Marlins and Auto Kemp. 247 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 3: Yes, do you have this all over? Yeah? 248 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 1: Is it part of your courts? Auto Kemp played a 249 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: game against the Marlins, Auto Lopez, and he popped out 250 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 1: to the shortstop, Auto Lopez. 251 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 3: Who do you think you're talking to here? You don't 252 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 3: think I noticed two Auto's playing in the same game. 253 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 3: Thank you to the two fellas. Really cool that someone 254 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 3: would send that in. Yeah, had you or Auto the 255 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 3: Orange at Syracuse? Jeff? That's so good? So I didn't 256 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 3: even connect those two. 257 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, Auto and Auto, Auto the Orange, legendary Syracuse mascot 258 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: who I had the pleasure of portraying with my teammates 259 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 1: for four years at Syracuse. And Auto Kemp also had 260 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: a game where he went four for four and this 261 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: is way at two inside forty four is Syracuse's lucky number. Yeah, 262 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: Ernie Davis wore it, Jim Brown wore it. It's like 263 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: a legendary number. So at a game I was at, 264 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: Auto Kemp went four to four forty four and then. 265 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 2: Auto popped out to Auto. 266 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 3: This is just the best. Well you added to it, Jeff, 267 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 3: I forgot all about the fact that you were Auto, 268 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 3: even though I bring it up every time, I didn't 269 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 3: forget that you were Auto. I never forget that I 270 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 3: spent fifty grand a year for you to go to college, 271 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 3: so you could dress up in a little orange band 272 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 3: suit and run around like a clown all day. But 273 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 3: you were great at it, Jeff, you were really good. 274 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: So you told that joke during the London broadcasts when 275 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: the Philly fanatic came up to you in the booth, 276 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: and the amount of tweets and people and conversations we 277 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: got around Syracuse was fantastic. 278 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 3: Right, well, thank you, Jeff. Okay, all right, we'll start 279 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 3: the quirk chains with the Autos, because I noticed the 280 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 3: exact same thing he grounded out to Auto Lopez in 281 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 3: the second inning, then popped out to him in the 282 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 3: sixth in so Auto to Otto. I read this sumwhere 283 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 3: I didn't check with anyone, but apparently it's the first 284 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 3: time since nineteen sixteen that someone with the first name 285 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 3: of Auto played against somebody with the first name of 286 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 3: Otto and they were involved in the same plays together. 287 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 3: So I tried so hard, Jeff, to come up with 288 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 3: the all Palindrome team off of this in Major League history, 289 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 3: but there just weren't enough. Dick nn, who I grew 290 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 3: up watching with the Senators, wrote have been the first 291 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 3: baseman Rob Nen. His son Toby Harra, who I covered 292 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 3: with the Rangers. Is the shortstop. Dave Otto pitched in 293 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 3: the Major leagues. I remember a guy named Johnny Reider 294 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 3: r eed Er long time ago. I didn't remember Eddie 295 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 3: Kazak ka Zak, but I was all over the Sallases. 296 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 3: Mark Sallas and Fernando Salas both played in the Major leagues. 297 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 3: Mark was a catcher, Fernando was a pitcher. And Jeff, 298 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 3: with that not qualify, is the greatest battery of all 299 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 3: time if the catcher and the pitcher were both palindromes. 300 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 3: Am I wrong about this? 301 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 2: You would your brain would explode if that happened. 302 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 3: Jeff, what are my two favorite batteries of all time? 303 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 3: Let's see if you can remember Burger King. No, that 304 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 3: the battery picture battery, I mean burger faced King King, Jeff, 305 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 3: A battery is the pitcher and the catcher. 306 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 2: Oh oh oh, I can't remember those. Now, Okay, what's 307 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 2: your favorite? 308 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 3: It's okay, Well, we had an Abbot and Castillo battery, 309 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 3: which I loved Marti Castillo caught Glenn Abbot. But my 310 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 3: favorite was when uh Bud Black pitched to Steve Decker, 311 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 3: So we had the Black and Black and Decker battery 312 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 3: that those days that Steve Rushian once said, Steve Decker 313 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 3: wore the power tools of ignorance on the days that 314 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 3: he caught Bud Black again. Another beautiful thing by Steve Russian. 315 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 3: All Right, I buried lead Jeff on the corkchin. So 316 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 3: I'm going through the box scores on Wednesday morning at 317 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 3: five o'clock, drinking a diet mountain dew. What a life 318 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 3: I have carved out for myself. Jeff and I get 319 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 3: about halfway through the box scores and I say, Wow, 320 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 3: there were a lot of hit batters. Sure looks like 321 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 3: a lot of hit batters. So I go back. I 322 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 3: go back again, and I count them all. There were 323 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 3: twenty nine hit batsmen in baseball on Tuesday night. Seem 324 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 3: like a lot to me. So I texted Frank from 325 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 3: the Alias at six o'clock in the morning and I said, Frank, 326 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 3: this is just a hunch. I can't find this myself, 327 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 3: of course, but I count twenty nine players got hit 328 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 3: by a pitch in one night. And he writes me back, 329 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 3: pretty good hunched him. That's the most batters that have 330 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 3: ever been hit in one day in Major League Baseball 331 00:17:55,640 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 3: since nineteen hundred. The previous record was twenty seven on 332 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 3: September the eighth of twenty twenty. So, Jeff, I can't 333 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 3: even begin to tell you the excitement that when I 334 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 3: have a hunch like this and then it turns out 335 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 3: to be not only a good note, it's well, depending 336 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 3: on whether you like this stuff, it's a great note. 337 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 2: I mean it's a record. I mean it's not just 338 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: a note. It's a record now. 339 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 3: That you know. 340 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: June the seventeenth, twenty twenty five most hits back. That's 341 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: averaging almost two hit batsmen per game game. 342 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 3: That's crazy, Jeff, I can't even I mean, other than 343 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 3: the birth of you and Kelly, that might have been 344 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 3: the greatest moment of my whole life. That Frank texted 345 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: me back and said, Tim, that was a great hunch. 346 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 3: That's the most ever since nineteen hundred. 347 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: Boy, did he comment at all that he was upset 348 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: that you didn't name your new dog Frank from the Alias. 349 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 3: I did not bring that up to Frank from the Elias. Okay, 350 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 3: a couple other things. Jeff, the A's Tuesday Night lost 351 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 3: another game by ten runs. So now they've lost eight 352 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 3: games this year by ten or more runs. The record 353 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 3: for such things is nine at least before the All 354 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 3: Star Break by the A's in twenty twenty three. So 355 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 3: we're almost there and they're going to do that in 356 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 3: And also keep in mind, Jet, the Mets have not 357 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 3: allowed ten runs in a game this season, the only 358 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 3: team that hasn't, and the A's have lost eight games 359 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 3: by ten runs. Do you find that interesting at all? 360 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: I do? 361 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 4: I do? 362 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 2: Offense is coming back, Dad. 363 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: This is exciting because I feel like we were in 364 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: such a pitching era to see now you even see 365 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: the Rockies scoring ten runs? 366 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 3: Is this crazy? 367 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 4: Right? 368 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 3: It's crazy? Okay? A couple other things. The Yankees have 369 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 3: played five one to nothing games already. The most one 370 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 3: nothing games they've ever played was seven in nineteen eighty 371 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 3: and they're almost there ready, and we're not even to 372 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 3: the All Star break. And again, the Yankees have had 373 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 3: a tremendous amount of trouble scoring runs at least through Tuesday. 374 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 3: And the last thing, Jeff leading to the worst team 375 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 3: tim of all time. Jason Alexander, formerly of the A's 376 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 3: now pitching for the Astros, got his first victory of 377 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 3: the season. He's won a couple of major League games 378 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 3: before this year, But I just thought it would be 379 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 3: in the spirit of this show to come up with 380 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 3: the all Seinfeld team based that Jason Alexander won a game. 381 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 3: So are you ready for this and be ready. 382 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 2: To a bit more ready than I am right now? 383 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 3: All right, Well, since Jerry Seinfeld is the key to 384 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 3: the whole show, I was going to start with. The 385 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 3: catcher has to be Jerry Grody, one of the great 386 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 3: catchers in defensive catchers in baseball history, and a met 387 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 3: of course, and Jerry Seinfeld is a huge Mets fan, 388 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 3: so I should start with Jerry Grody there, But I 389 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:05,239 Speaker 3: didn't have a Peterman, you know, mister Peterman. Right, Well, 390 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 3: there was a guy named Bill Peterman who caught a 391 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 3: long time ago for one year, I think nineteen sixteen, 392 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 3: So I had to take Jerry Grody out use another Jerry. 393 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 3: Bill Peterman is the catcher. Great, This is where the 394 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 3: stretching begins. Jackie Robinson is our first baseman because the 395 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 3: first first game he ever played in the Major League, 396 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 3: first year he ever played, was a first baseman. Do 397 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 3: you know anyone on the show named Jackie Jackie Chiles? 398 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 3: Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, Like Jeff these Seinfeld 399 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 3: fans are going to kill us like, of course everyone 400 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 3: knows who Jackie Chiles is. This is this is not 401 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 3: my expertise. It's not like we're talking about get smart here, okay, right, 402 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 3: Kevin Kramer is the second base, of course Kramer, and 403 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 3: Kevin Newman is the shortstop. So I covered a game 404 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh one year where Kevin Kramer and Kevin Newman 405 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 3: were the starting middle infield for the Pirates. So I 406 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 3: asked Kevin Newman about his last name. He told me once, 407 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 3: he said, not a day goes by where someone doesn't 408 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 3: come up to him and go Hello Newman. Yeah, I 409 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 3: mean you have to. That's unbelievable. 410 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 2: Right. 411 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 3: The third baseman is George Brett because George costands up. 412 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 3: But George is of course famous in that the outfield 413 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 3: is a tremendous stretch. Frank Robinson, George's father is Frank 414 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 3: rich Childs. Jackie Chiles is one of our outfielders. And 415 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 3: Jerry as in Jerry Seinfeld Jerry Mumfrey is one of 416 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 3: the outfielders. I'm sure I could have done a lot 417 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 3: better than that. Jason Alexander is one of the pitchers, 418 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 3: and we're gonna use the same last name twice for 419 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 3: the brothers Andy and Alan Bennis because Elaine's last name 420 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 3: is Bennis. 421 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 2: That was really good, Dad. I'm really happy with that team, 422 00:22:59,080 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 2: all right. 423 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 3: I tried, Jeff. It's not it's my fourth favorite sitcom 424 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 3: of all time and so but I'm not suggesting it 425 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 3: was great, and I'll give us the other three. Oh, 426 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 3: get smart one on the family to Dick Van Dyke. 427 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 3: Three Seinfeld four cheers. Five. That's the list. 428 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 4: Wow. 429 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 2: In the end, you gave it an order, Dad, Wow? 430 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 3: Right, Oh, it's always has to be an order, all right. 431 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 2: So we're going to create some enemies, right, Jeff. 432 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 3: If anyone who's a big Seinfeld fan and way better 433 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 3: than me at this, please give us your list. I 434 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 3: tried Putty everywhere, David Putty, and I couldn't find a 435 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,959 Speaker 3: big leader pu d d Y anywhere. If someone can 436 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 3: find that for me, please, that would have been a 437 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 3: perfect edition, but I couldn't find it. Well. 438 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: Coming up next here on is this a great game 439 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: or what we've got on this state in baseball history? 440 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 2: Assy? The oral? 441 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 3: Dad? 442 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 2: You're going to do number? 443 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 4: Are we on to? 444 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 2: Twenty two? 445 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 4: Now? 446 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 3: Twenty two? Not easy but painful? But I think I 447 00:23:59,040 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 3: got it correct. 448 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: The greatest Baltimore Oriole of all time will settle that 449 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: argument and a special guest Seamhead. It's all coming up 450 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: next on is this a great game or what? 451 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 3: Welcome back to? 452 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 2: Is this a great game or what dad? 453 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: Let's jump right into on this date in baseball history, 454 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: June the nineteenth, Right. 455 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 3: On this date in nineteen o three, Louke Gereg was 456 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 3: born Louke Gregg. Of course we've talked an awful lot 457 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 3: about lately. The one stat I haven't given you, Jeff, 458 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 3: is I think this still goes. But the only two 459 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 3: players in Major League history who played who were five 460 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 3: hundred games over five hundred in their career for the 461 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 3: teams they played like while they were on the team 462 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 3: five hundred games over five hundred are Derek Jeter and 463 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 3: Lou Garrick. That's it. 464 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: Wow? 465 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 3: Is that pretty cool? That is impressive. Granted they're on 466 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 3: great teams, of course, that's given Derek and Lou Garrett. 467 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 3: That's a pretty good company. Yeah, Okay, birthdays, I have 468 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 3: a bunch of them. Dwayne Kuiper, one of the great 469 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 3: defensive second basemen that I ever saw growing up and 470 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 3: is now soon will someday will be a Hall of 471 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 3: Fame broadcaster. He and Mike Kruco are both going to 472 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 3: go in someday. They do Giants games and they're great, 473 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 3: And I love Dwayne Kuiper. He makes fun of himself 474 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 3: better than anyone. So he told me the story wis 475 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 3: Jeff that when he played for the Indians, it was 476 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 3: his first start and he's obviously just a rookie in 477 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 3: which Gaylord Perry, who would win the cy young. I 478 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 3: believe that year Gaylord Perry was a rough, tough, great pitcher, 479 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 3: hall of Famer, way underrated. But Gaylord Perry looks at 480 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 3: his teammate Dwayne Kuiper before the game starts and says, 481 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 3: if you make an error behind me today, I will 482 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 3: make sure that you never play another game for this 483 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 3: team the rest of your career. Now, I'm going to 484 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 3: look at this. That was the competitor that Gaylord Perry was. 485 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 3: And here here, poor Dwayne Kuiper, who had never started 486 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 3: a game in which Gaylord Perry was the starting pitcher, 487 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 3: was like scared to death. He didn't make an error 488 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 3: because he was a great defender. And I hesitate to 489 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 3: bring this up. But Gaylord Perry got a statue outside 490 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 3: of pack Bell Park where the Giants now play, is 491 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 3: not called pack Bell anymore, not the point, And he 492 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 3: took a picture of himself, Dwayne Kuiper giving the finger 493 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 3: to Gaylord Perry, and he said it to me, Look, 494 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 3: he was Gaylord Perry's friend, but that was just his 495 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 3: little that was his little revenge for Gaylord telling him 496 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 3: what he told him before his first start. By Oh 497 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 3: my god, that's incredible, all right. Also born on nineteen 498 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 3: fifty Jeff a picture named Jim Slay pitch for the Brewers. 499 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 3: Very good pitcher for a long time, and he went 500 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks without winning a game, and his 501 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 3: brother Frank was very concerned about his brother Jim, so 502 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 3: Frank decided to go on like a hunger thing. He 503 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 3: would only eat soup until his brother won another game. 504 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 3: And it took a couple of weeks and Frank lost 505 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 3: sixteen pounds during the fast. During the fast, he told 506 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 3: his dad, do you want to join the fast with me? 507 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 3: And his dad said, look, I love my son, but 508 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 3: I'm not crazy, So he didn't join the fast all right. 509 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 3: Nineteen seventy four, dougman Kaevich was born one of my 510 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 3: favorite players played for the Twins, Red Sox, few others. 511 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 3: Really funny guy. And with our last name Jeff, which 512 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 3: has been mangled so many times, I want to ask him, 513 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 3: what's the worst pronunciation you've ever had of your name? 514 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 3: And he said, uh, manischevits Doug Manischevits not even close. 515 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 3: So the story Doug told me that I'll never forget 516 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 3: he made a base running mistake. This is in the eighties. 517 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 3: He makes a base running mistake, and Tom Kelly is 518 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 3: the manager of the Twins, and Tom Kelly was a 519 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 3: fundamental manager on every level. But it was a bad 520 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 3: base running mistake. So after the game at Tiger Stadium, 521 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 3: Tom Kelly ordered Doug mccavige to go out and run 522 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 3: the bases by himself to make sure he didn't make 523 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 3: that mistake again. And one of the groundskeepers who doesn't 524 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 3: recognize who Doug mccavitch, is yelling at him, Hey, man, 525 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 3: you gotta get off the field. We have to drag 526 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 3: the field and get it ready for tomorrow's game. When 527 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 3: Kvidge said, sorry, sorry, I'm one of the players on 528 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 3: the Twins. I'm being punished for a base running mistake. Sorry, 529 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 3: you gotta let me finish. So only Tom Kelly would 530 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 3: make somebody do that. Can you imagine, Jeff, something like 531 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 3: that happening today. There would be guys running the bases 532 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 3: after every game. The base running is so bad in 533 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 3: the big leagues today. 534 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 2: It is so terrible. 535 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: But I could also see a you know, may he 536 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: rest in peace. Kobe Bryant used to do that all 537 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: the time after a game, but he was never told 538 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: to do it. 539 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 3: He would just do it. 540 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: Honestly, if he missed a shot from the elbow, he 541 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: would go and shoot that shot one hundred times. 542 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 3: That's mentality, right, That's what PGA tour players do. And 543 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 3: then in a bad four iron and they go out 544 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 3: to the rain for an hour and go hit him. 545 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 3: Last birthday, Colin McHugh really good reliever for several years. 546 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 3: In nineteen eighty seven, Colin McHugh was born. And I 547 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 3: don't care how corny this sounds, Jeff, I wrote a 548 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 3: story after Frank Robinson died. I wrote it for ESPN 549 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 3: dot com, and Colin McHugh came up to me and said, 550 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 3: I read your story about Frank Robinson. He goes, I'd 551 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 3: really like to talk to you someday about Frank Robinson. 552 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 3: I really like to get to know more about it him. 553 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 3: And this really struck me that a guy who's playing 554 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 3: in the twenty twenty is interested in Frank Robinson's career. 555 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 3: And this is the same Colin McHugh that after COVID. 556 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 3: Remember we weren't allowed in the clubhouse in twenty twenty 557 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 3: or twenty twenty one. We go back in twenty twenty two. 558 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 3: The writers do, the media does, and I'm in the 559 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 3: Braves Clubhouse and he was not doing this to curry favor. 560 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 3: He just came up to me and he said, I'm 561 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,959 Speaker 3: glad you guys are back in here. It's better when 562 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 3: you guys were in here. And I thought, how rare 563 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 3: is this for a baseball player to actually acknowledge, Hey, 564 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 3: the media is back in here and there's nothing wrong 565 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 3: with that. I was really touched by that. Do you 566 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 3: think I should have been? I think so. 567 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: I think that relationship between media and players can be 568 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: so contentious at times, depending if the players want to 569 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: talk to you or not. 570 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 2: But I mean, there is none without the other. 571 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: And I love that the media has a relationship, especially 572 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: the beat guys. I mean, you were on you were 573 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: boots on the ground. That's a big guy for years 574 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: and so you know the importance of the media, which 575 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: is really neat. And now Dad, from Ozzie to Oral, 576 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: we're counting down the best players to wear each number 577 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: one to fifty five, and we're on a number twenty two. 578 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: If you missed one through twenty one, you can always 579 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: visit our social media and you can check them out 580 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: on there at great Game or what on TikTok on 581 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: Instagram or on Facebook. You can check us out or 582 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: I mean we do them every Thursday as well. You 583 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: can listen back to the pod number twenty two. 584 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 3: What do you got well want? Soto wears twenty two, 585 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 3: but he hasn't done this long enough. Jim Palmer number 586 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 3: twenty two, greatest picture in the history of the Orioles 587 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 3: won a World Series game in three different decades. But 588 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 3: I'm going with Clayton Kershaw. And again, Jeff, let's be clear, 589 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 3: this is my list. It's not the right list. It's 590 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 3: not the correct list. We're interested in what others think 591 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 3: about these decisions that we make because they're not easy. 592 00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 3: But I'm taking Kershaw, three time cy Young Winner, MVP 593 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 3: ten All Star, games, and Jeff, most important, he has 594 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 3: the lowest era two point five to one of any 595 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 3: pitcher in the live ball era. That's nineteen twenty one 596 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 3: with at least twenty five hundred innings, the lowest. So 597 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 3: of all these great pitchers that we see today, first 598 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 3: ballot Hall of Famers, Justin Erdlander, Max Schurzer, Clayton Kershaw 599 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 3: is the best picture of this generation. He has been 600 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 3: absolutely unbelievable six ninety five winning percentage to go with 601 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 3: everything else he's done with two hundred and fourteen wins 602 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 3: and most strikeouts ever by a member of the Dodgers. 603 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 3: So let's see, Jeff, let's see how good your memory is. 604 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 3: It's been very good during this podcast. I must say 605 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 3: the anagram that I came up with for Clayton Kershaw's name. 606 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 3: Now the big clue, Jeff is he's the all time 607 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 3: strikeout leader for the Dodgers. I know I've told you this. 608 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 3: See if you can come close to the anagram for 609 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 3: Clayton Kershaw. 610 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: All I remember is it has K and SI in it, 611 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: so I think it's like like like cy Young wants 612 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: K or something like that, But. 613 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 2: That's not right. 614 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 3: That's pretty close Jeff, it's la pi hero want k 615 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 3: Hero or probably more accurately, la k hero wants SI. 616 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 3: That's an anagram for Clayton Kershaw. Took me three hours 617 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 3: to come up with that on a middle seat flight 618 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 3: several years ago on United. It was bad, not as yeah, 619 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 3: but I got I came up with something on Kershaw, 620 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 3: so it wasn't a ridiculous flight. 621 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 2: It was worth the three hours it took you to 622 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 2: do this. 623 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: All right, Dad, let's jump into the best of all 624 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: tim We go through each franchise in Major League Baseball, 625 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: and you give us the best player. 626 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 2: In that franchise. Now, in spirit of our guest, yes, 627 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 2: we had Cal Ripken Jr. On the podcast for goodness sake. 628 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 2: If you missed it, you got to go back and 629 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 2: listen to it. 630 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: We had his son Ryan Ripkin on as well as 631 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: celebration of a Father's Day this past Sunday. Dad, I 632 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: don't want to steal your thunder, but I asked you 633 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: to do the Orioles. 634 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 3: Who do you got? All right? This is virtually impossible. 635 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 3: You know, Frank Robinson played six years for the Orioles. 636 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 3: He's the best player ever to play for that team. 637 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 3: But he only played for them for six years. Jim Palmers, 638 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 3: I explained, his best pitcher in the history of the club. 639 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,240 Speaker 3: There is not a close second. Eddie Murray, first ballot 640 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 3: Hall of Famer, amazing player of course, Brooks Robinson like 641 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 3: an all time favorite of mine, greatest defensive third basement 642 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 3: of all time, vastly underrated hitter. But I'm going with 643 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 3: our guest from yesterday, Cal Ripkin. I mean, if you 644 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 3: look at it, Jeff, you look at the greatest shortstops 645 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 3: of all time. For me, it's it's Hannas Wagner, and 646 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 3: then either Derek Jeter or Cal Ripkin in that one 647 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 3: of those orders. That's pretty darn good. And Jeff he 648 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 3: changed the position by playing it at his size. So 649 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 3: you know, Alex Rodriguez, Derek Jeter, Troy Gloss, Chipper Jones, 650 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 3: no more Garciapara. Those were all guys who claim that 651 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 3: they became shortstops in the big leagues or in the 652 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,320 Speaker 3: minor leagues wherever because they watched a big man like 653 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 3: Ripken play the position. You know, he had three thousand hits, 654 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 3: four hundred and thirty one homers, won the Rookie of 655 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 3: the Year, won two MVPs made nineteen All Star teams. 656 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 3: And I just heard this, Jeff from a stat guy 657 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 3: friend of mine, Paul Evans. Boy, he's a mathematician and 658 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 3: boys he ever good. But he brought this up to 659 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,919 Speaker 3: me the other day, and I don't know exactly where 660 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 3: he got it, but he claims it's a reputable place 661 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 3: for the greatest defensive war of all time at all 662 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 3: positions in baseball history. So to give it some credibility, 663 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 3: Ozzy Smith is the number one defensive war of all 664 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 3: time at any position, which, by the way, I would 665 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 3: agree with. Number two is Brooks Robinson. Hard to argue 666 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 3: with that. Number three is Mark Blanger, who played for 667 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 3: the Orioles at the same time that Brooks Robinson was 668 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 3: the third baseman. And number four is Cal Ripkin wow 669 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 3: fourth all time in defensive war. And number six on 670 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 3: that list is Louis Aparisio, who also played shortstop for 671 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 3: the Orioles. So so they essentially went from Louis Aparisio, 672 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 3: who turned it over essentially to Mark Blanger, who turned 673 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 3: it over to Cal Ripken. Three of the great shortstops 674 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 3: in baseball history all played for the same team and 675 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 3: basically consecutively how about that. 676 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,240 Speaker 2: That's incredible to think about. 677 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: So I think there's a lot of arguments to be 678 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 1: had about the greatest Oriol of all time. But as 679 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 1: you mentioned, it's your list, your It's okay for people 680 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 1: to disagree, right, no argument here. 681 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 3: If you vote for Brooks Robinson, if you vote for 682 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 3: Eddie Murray, if you vote for Jim Palmer, if you 683 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,800 Speaker 3: vote for Frank Robinson. I'm going with Cal Junior, and 684 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,439 Speaker 3: not because he was nice enough to come on the show. 685 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 3: I just think he earned it, and I didn't even 686 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 3: mention him playing and breaking the streak that is secondary 687 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 3: to the greatness on the field. 688 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 2: Let's jump into dad final segment of the day. 689 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: I am a seam head, where you submit your voice 690 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 1: memos to me Jeff at Great Game or dot Com. 691 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: Keep it under sixty seconds. Tell us why you're a 692 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 1: seam head. Whether it's your incredible baseball card collection, or 693 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: your ability to recollect every starting pitcher on opening day 694 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: for the Kansas City Royals since nineteen seventy two, or 695 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 1: whatever it might be. We want to hear from you, 696 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,879 Speaker 1: Jeff at Great Game or what dot Com? Dad, And Well, 697 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,839 Speaker 1: we brought in a member of the family this week, 698 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: or I am a seam head, right. 699 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 3: Dad, it's a relationship show, Jeff. This was a risk, 700 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 3: but I think we got through it. Let's hear it. 701 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 4: Hey, guys, it's Kathy Kirkchen and I guess I'm a 702 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 4: seam head. Actually, I think I'm just forced to be 703 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 4: a seam head. Living in the house that I live in. 704 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 4: I get enough of the statistics and stuff to not 705 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 4: have to make any up of my own. But the 706 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 4: kind of stuff that I'm seamhead about, I guess is 707 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 4: very beginner seamhead. Stuff like I watch in games. I 708 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 4: think it's cool when the player who's stuck on bass 709 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 4: at the end of the inning and he needs to 710 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 4: play in the field, and people bring him his glove 711 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 4: and his hat whatever he needs to play out in 712 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 4: the field. I think that kind of stuff's cool. Same 713 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 4: thing like when the first baseman is coming off the 714 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 4: field and somebody tosses him a ball so he's ready 715 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 4: to play catch at the beginning of the next inning. 716 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 4: I think that kind of stuff is cool, very very 717 00:38:58,440 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 4: beginner seam head. 718 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 2: How in the world did you get Mom, your wife Kathy. 719 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 3: To do this? 720 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 2: That was a great I am a seamhead submission. 721 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 3: Right. Well, Mark Simon, our dear friend who was the 722 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 3: first seam head to go on this podcast this year, 723 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 3: recommended putting Kathy Kirkchin on. So I the way I 724 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 3: got her to do it was, I said, look, I'm 725 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 3: giving you a minute to make fun of your dorky, ridiculous, 726 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 3: stupid husband. But she took the high road as always 727 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 3: and chose not to do that. But she she did 728 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 3: a really good job on this. I was really proud 729 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,879 Speaker 3: of her, and I love what she said, especially her 730 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 3: two seam headed you know situations. I love that we 731 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 3: give mom a hard time sometimes, but Mom's done an 732 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 3: awful lot of great stuff around this house. And by 733 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 3: the way, Jeff, I was just looking at the T 734 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 3: shirt quilt that mom made for me. I was just 735 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,800 Speaker 3: looking at it yesterday. I'm not sure why, but and 736 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 3: audit and this has nothing to do with Mom, but 737 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 3: there's a T shirt there for the snowman. Do you 738 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 3: do you know what that T shirt's about? 739 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,359 Speaker 2: Wasn't that a softball team or a basketball basketball. 740 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 3: Team that I played on for like five years seventies 741 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 3: early early eighties. So after about three years on the team, 742 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,399 Speaker 3: I finally asked our guys. We had a great team. 743 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 3: We won the league multiple times. I said, why we 744 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 3: call this the Snowmen? And they looked at me and said, 745 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 3: you don't know why we're called the snowmen. And I said, no, 746 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 3: I don't. Well, as it turns out, cocaine is another 747 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 3: word for snow is another word for cocaine. So do 748 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 3: not know this? 749 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 2: Well, did you not go to any of the team 750 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 2: after parties? 751 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 3: Well, after three years I went to one of the 752 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 3: team after parties and it was late on a Saturday night, 753 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,479 Speaker 3: and they were they were doing lines in the car, Jeff, 754 00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 3: and they weren't layup lines. I promise you that. And 755 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 3: I looked, because we used to play the games on 756 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 3: Sunday morning, so I used to I asked him, how 757 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 3: can you guys play on Sunday morning having done this 758 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 3: on Saturday night? And they said, well, why do you 759 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 3: think we're so good on Sunday morning? What does that mean? 760 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 3: I didn't understand one word of that. I did not 761 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 3: know that the name for cocaine was snow. We were 762 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 3: called the Snowman. I was on the team, and I 763 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 3: didn't know why. Carl Rauch I told this a Rabbi, 764 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 3: and every once in a while, I'll just look at 765 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 3: me and go, did I ever tell you that I 766 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 3: played on a team called the Snowman? Poor so poor 767 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:38,839 Speaker 3: pop up. 768 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: That's a poor popop right there? Well, Dad, speaking of 769 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,959 Speaker 1: four pop up. Next week on the show, our guest 770 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,320 Speaker 1: will be Dan LeBatard, and we won't get into it 771 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 1: too much other than I know and I'm going to 772 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 1: surprise him with a couple of things in this interview, Dad, 773 00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 1: you if it's not Scott Van Pelt, Baltimore accent the 774 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 1: looks like Game with Dan Levatard. The thing you get 775 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 1: recognized for maybe the most is that. 776 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty sad, Jeff. I'm a Hall of Fame 777 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,800 Speaker 3: baseball writer. More people know about the stupid looks like 778 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 3: Game and the long eve from Scott Van Pelt than 779 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,240 Speaker 3: anything else I've done in my career. I'm not angry 780 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 3: about that. I'm flattered. But the lesson, Jeff is it's 781 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 3: always always important to have a good chuckle once in 782 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,720 Speaker 3: a while, especially when you're covering baseball, because the season 783 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,959 Speaker 3: is so long, the job can at times be so hard, 784 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 3: and the game is so hard. 785 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 1: That's coming up on Wednesday, June twenty fifth, and of 786 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: course a Tuesday Thursday episode next week as well. Thank 787 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 1: you so much for listening, and as always, thank you 788 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 1: for being a part of our family.