WEBVTT - Isolation Chambers: Float Follow-Up 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:06.240 Welcome to stuff to Blow Your Mind from how Stuffworks 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:15.120 dot com. Hey, welcome to Stuffed to All Your Mind. 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:17.680 My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Julie Douglas. If 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:20.680 you tuned into our podcast recently, you might have enjoyed 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:25.320 an episode about century deprivation, about sensory deprivation tanks, about 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:29.840 entering the womb to tomb wet box, which which you 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:32.480 don't like that term, but I think issue with wet box. 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:35.479 Yeah it does sound kind of weird, little Chris, But 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:39.840 but entering this this chamber of salty water and deprivated 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:44.239 senses and experiencing something phenomenal. Yeah, you go into the 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:47.720 moist box. See that's no better, is it? Um? And 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:52.760 it really is sort of an amazing experience. Um, simply 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:56.040 because you're doing something that's pretty elementary, right, You are 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:59.040 taking out all that sort of stimuli that's surrounding you 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:02.880 every day, and then you are trapped with your mind, 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:05.640 which some of us feel sometimes like we are trapped 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:07.720 within the box of our minds. So we sort of 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:10.640 like you're trapped within a box within a box. I 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:12.680 feel like in a way, when we're trapped in our 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:15.080 own mind, in our daily life, we tend it's more 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:17.919 like we are trapped in a party with one party 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:20.399 guest that we desperately want to annoy a void, but 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:23.080 they keep cornering us and talking at us. So it's 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:25.080 like we're in this party. There's lots of stuff around us. 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:26.720 I got work to do. If I don't want to 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:28.839 do my work for some reason, I've got things I'm reading. 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:31.240 I can always look something up on the internet or 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:34.400 or do something on my to do list. So they're 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:37.440 all these people that I can interact with at this party. 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:40.880 But the my this nagging voice in my mind keeps 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:43.000 coming up and saying, hey, remember when you were in 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:45.440 high school, and remember that thing you said to your 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:47.440 friend last week, And what are you gonna do next week? 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:49.640 You know? And then you're like, oh, I'm cornered by 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:51.760 this creep again. But then you you go on, Whereas 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:54.440 the censory deprivation tank is kind of like saying, all right, 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:57.200 you and this annoying party guests are going to spend 0:01:57.200 --> 0:01:59.880 some time together and you're gonna figure out what doesn't work. 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:03.000 And there's no cheese plate too to escape to, right, 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:05.520 Like it's just you and you. Yeah, you can't see, 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:07.600 you have to run refresh your drink or use the bathroom. 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:11.080 You gotta fight it out right, right, So we both 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:17.000 underwent the sensory deprivations sixty minutes long. And uh, I 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:20.000 will say that for for my first session, because I 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:23.080 did too. I put a little hand towel in the 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:26.000 door because I was not really all that interested in 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:28.720 sealing myself into something, because I wasn't quite sure if 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:31.280 I was claustrophobic. And we described the thing for them 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:35.120 enough but essentially kind of like a not as casket 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:37.560 like as I was hoping, and I imagine you were 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:40.239 maybe fearing, but kind of you know, like this big 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:43.800 pod with kind of a squarish like back portion because 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:47.000 it it has like an auto auto cleaning and filtration 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:50.600 system and it's about chest high, so it was a 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:52.000 lot higher than I thought it was going to be, 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:53.960 which is good because you have more room to to 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:56.919 move around and get in and out right. Um, it's 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:00.360 got a little hatch that opens and closes, and it's 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:03.840 kind of filtration system, very very important for anybody who's 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:07.960 not interested in soaking in someone else's body stuff. Yeah, 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:12.160 and in the water itself is is high salt content, 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:16.440 I mean how many how many pounds was like pounds, right, Yeah, 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:19.080 so you're just you're soaking in that no, just soaking it, 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:22.800 floating on it because you float in water that's salty 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:26.720 and uh. And then the hatches closed or partially closed, 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:30.200 and that cuts out most of the sound. Also, you're 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:33.480 using wax waxy earpes, yeah, like little bits of bubblegum 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:35.600 to go in your ear. You're wearing those. So that's 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:37.720 helping to deaden out the sound as well, and keep 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:40.440 the water out and keep the water out. Your eyes 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:43.200 are kept mostly I mean your your eyes are kept 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:46.560 above the water because you're floating on your back and uh. 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:51.440 And then the hatches closed or partially closed, thus obscuring light. Right, 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:53.880 and the water is heated to believe it's swept a 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:58.480 thirty three degrees celsius either thirty or thirty three and 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:01.920 degrees fahrenheit. Yeah. So the idea here is you're not like, 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:04.040 oh this water is a little chili or oh this 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:07.160 is so nice and warm, but more it's in it's 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:09.920 in keeping with your body. So the idea is that 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:13.720 it blurs the line between where year flesh ends and 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:16.680 the water begins. Right, the borders are just this fall away, 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:19.680 and in some sense they certainly do that. Yeah, except 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:21.839 if you have a scratch on you or something, and 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.279 then the salt water will let you know where your 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:26.240 flesh ends and the water begins, and that's something they 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:28.680 warn you about. There's like a tub of asoline on 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:31.600 top of the tank. You're supposed to put on your 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:34.279 cuts before you go in if you, I mean, ideally, 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:36.040 if you just you know, ran through a thornbush, you 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:39.599 probably should skip going to the Century deprivation tank that 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:42.080 day until you're or if you've just shaved, or you've 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:44.919 just shaved. And even then though, if you get like 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:46.560 a little stain because I went in there and I 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:50.240 was not expecting that, and it stung a little bit, 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:51.440 but then you sort of get used to it and 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:53.240 it goes the feeling goes away. Yeah, And I will 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:55.840 say the first time I floated, a lot of the 0:04:56.160 --> 0:05:01.320 float was dealing with this the limit. It's stimuli that 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:03.719 I had access to. In other words, you know, oh, 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:05.720 I have many more bug bites than I knew of 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:09.120 because now it's just stinging, and it's much more amplified 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:12.400 because I have nothing else to concentrate on. Um, there's 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:15.039 also a particular smell to the water, and I'm attributing 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:17.839 that to the aps some salt. Yeah, and also just 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:20.880 sort of I mean, it is essentially kind of enclosed, 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:23.760 sort of hot tub type environment. So if you've if 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:25.640 you ever owned a hot tub or frequently use a 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:29.159 hot tub, you know there are certain smells associated with that. 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:31.320 I'm talking about a functioning hot tub. I'm not talking 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:35.120 like a funky, um, you know, disease written hot tub. 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:37.839 But in other words, what I'm saying is that even 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:41.360 though you're deprevating, deprevating certain senses, your sense of smell 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:43.400 is still going to be intact unless you plug up 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:46.040 your nose, I guess. Um, so you are going to 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:49.880 get certain salty hot tubby odors. And this is all 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:52.520 stuff for the money to chew on while you are 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:56.960 immersed in this water, right because again you have very 0:05:57.080 --> 0:06:00.440 limited stuff here to work with. So um, that doesn't 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:02.880 mean that your entire float you would be you know, 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:06.800 sitting here being driven crazy by these different elements. It's 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:09.960 just sort of easing into this process. And of course 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:13.360 it is different for every single person who floats. Yeah, Now, 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:15.560 the feel of it, Um, we should we should talk 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:17.560 about next. I was I knew I was going to 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:20.560 be floating, but I haven't really floated in anything like 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:22.719 this before, Like I've never been to the Dead Sea 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:26.360 or anything like that. So this was a first for me. 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:28.760 And it was really kind of surprising because I climbed 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:32.200 into it. Uh and uh and you you climb you 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:33.920 you don't think you have to climb into it naked, 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:37.760 but it's it's implied that you should. It is because again, 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:40.560 you become much more aware of what stimuli is there. 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:41.960 So if you have a bathing suit on, then you're 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:45.039 going to be aware of the elastic or or whatnot. 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:48.480 And ultimately it's more hygienek that way, because I think 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:51.159 I've talked about sauna is a bit before. Um. You know, 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:53.279 in the US, everyone's going into a sauna with some 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:57.280 sort of bathing suit on, whereas in Europe and you're 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:00.240 going to encounter more of a nude tramp end in 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:04.159 your saunas and and and the nude trend is arguably 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:07.000 far more sanitary because it's you don't know where the 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:09.320 bathing suits have been or how clean those are. People 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:13.840 are bringing these soggy um you know, lower torso garments 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:16.200 that have been soaking in water and and you know 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:19.640 whatever else. So ultimately, I think I think that everyone 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:22.600 going into the isolation tank naked is really better for everyone. 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:25.920 Then you're taking a shower before and after as well. Yeah, 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:28.320 those are the rules. Those are the rules. Where was 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:30.920 I talking about on that round? I was talking about 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:33.720 the feeling. Yes, so I climbed in and then I 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:36.480 and you kind of slipped the last little bit. It's 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:39.240 kind of like going into a torpedo tube and then 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:43.200 suddenly I'm just floating and it's it's really weird sensation 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:45.560 if you've never felt it before. Yeah, because you can't 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:48.880 see anything. So um. We talked about this and the 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.520 episode I believe about the quietest room in the world 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:55.520 that even just deprived of your auditory cues, you begin 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:58.200 to lose your sense of where you are in time 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:00.320 and space. So that's why people in the quiet stroom 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:03.080 in the world at the oar Field Labs, they have 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:06.120 to sit down after thirty minutes because they don't really 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:09.400 feel like they're pinned in space and time. Well, think 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:14.280 of yourself in this tank, floating um, naked, and those 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:18.360 borders of yourself melting away and This is when people 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:20.640 begin to feel as though they're spinning inside. And some 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:22.880 people feel like they're spinning really really fast, or they're 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:26.040 just kind of cruising around, but it's a very odd feeling. Well, 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.520 I kept having this this feeling, and this would happen 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:31.440 sort of the more I was in there. Um, you know, 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:35.120 I'm floating, and I'm floating essentially on a on a 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:39.160 horizontal plane, and but there's a little bobbing around and 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:41.480 occasionally your your your hand, your foot will touch the 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:44.280 side and then I would get get to get this 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:47.560 feeling as if the horizontal plane were tipping forward, but 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:49.520 that I was staying in one place, and then kind 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:52.240 of a feeling like I was shooting down a tube. 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:55.880 So there's this like false feeling of movement as well. Um, 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:58.160 it never felt woozy or anything. I didn't feel like 0:08:58.160 --> 0:08:59.240 it was gonna be sick or like it was on 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:02.400 a roller coaster exactly. But it was this this this 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:06.320 feeling of movement that I knew wasn't actually happening. Yeah, 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:08.640 and how did your brain deal with that? You know, 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:11.959 did you were you consumed by it? Or Um? I 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:14.320 was kind of like thinking, WHOA, I really feel like 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:17.400 I'm moving, and I would picture myself in like a 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:20.680 plane of darkness, um, you know, and then being tipped 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:22.839 forward and then occasionally and this is where I got 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:25.240 into trouble a little bit, is that I would sort 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:27.400 of I feel myself tipping forward. So I tipped my 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:30.800 head back a little bit, presumably to keep my head 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:33.200 above the water, and of course my since the water 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:36.080 plane wasn't actually tilting, all I managed to do was 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:39.520 was get a little salt water in my eyes. Yeah, 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:42.280 And it's really interesting all these little things, all this 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:45.120 minutia you begin to sort of get caught up with, 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:50.280 and then your body becomes accepting of it eventually because 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:52.720 it adapts. And now I thought that was the fascinating 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.079 part of all of this, is that here we are 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:59.120 just completely bombarded by everything, um, by all the little 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:04.080 undercurrent suff sound of you know, the state of our hunger, 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:07.480 you know, if we're super hungry or not very hungry 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:11.359 at all, or not feeling great, um, the interactions with everybody, 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:14.160 all the data we're taking in with our eyes. You 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:17.000 shut all of that out and the brain kind of 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:19.640 goes a little bit. I will say, nuts like light nuts, 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:22.360 good nuts, right, um, And then adapt to that and 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:24.760 you begin to feel that release into the water. And 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:27.320 I think that is the key point that that everybody 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:31.000 has talked about anecnotally is you know, this is this 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:33.480 is what the tank is really good for, is that 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:35.880 you do have a release in your your brain and 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:38.600 your body finally decide to just sort of submit to 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:42.160 the experience and things do get quiet. And I'm not 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:43.880 going to say that I had a completely you know, 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:47.080 meditative state. You know, after twenty minutes, who knows. Because 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:51.400 time is nonexistent in the town. Like basically they tell 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:53.800 you don't think about time because a number of things 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:56.360 will happen. You'll hear the filtration system kick in the end, 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.520 and then they'll make some music play in the room, 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:01.160 and then if that didn't work, they'll come and knock 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:03.760 on the door. So the idea is, don't worry about 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:05.679 how close you are to the finish line. We'll tell 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:07.640 you when your time is right. It's just sort of 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:11.960 slipping in and out of different states. Um. So that 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:15.040 was to me one of the most interesting things altered Stass, 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:17.240 which we talked about, is that the main thing that 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:19.880 comes out of this experiences that people are having altered 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:23.320 states of consciousness. Now you mean you were talking about 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:26.200 We're talking about sound there. One of the impressions I 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:29.000 definitely had is that I you know, I'm in there, 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:30.800 I'm in my own head. And then time sort of 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:33.760 starts to slip by, and then suddenly I'm hearing this 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:36.920 noise and it sounds like the crashing of waves on 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:39.520 a beach. And then I realized that it's my own 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:42.120 breathing because I have the have the plugs in, I'm 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.760 in the in the water, and uh, and so most 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:46.840 of the noises, I mean pretty much all the noises 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:49.040 I'm hearing is simply the noises of my body. So 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:51.319 I'm hearing my breathing. And that was a really interesting 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:54.880 experience because it did feel like waves crashing. Sound like 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:57.920 waves crashing. I had that same experience, and I thought, wow, 0:11:57.960 --> 0:11:59.200 that sounds like I'm on the beach. And then the 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:01.280 same thing, I was old to realize that it was 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:03.920 just my own breath. Um. And you can cure your 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:07.760 your heart beating. UM. At one point I decided that 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:10.560 the towel in the door that just had the crack 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:13.320 of light coming through was not good because I would 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:16.400 sort of go into these into the void of nothingness 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:18.880 and be taken out when I floated near the top 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:21.000 where that crack of light was, and and again you 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:24.000 you left that there because you're maybe a little claustrophobic. 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:26.720 I didn't know. You know, I've never been sealed into anything. 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:29.800 Um I didn't wasn't crazy about the idea, honestly. Um 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:31.960 So I thought, I'll just do that, and then I 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:34.000 know that I have you know, I can just push 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:35.880 it open, which I could do anyway. But once I 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:38.640 got past the fear of that, I wanted to take 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:41.720 it out. But here's the thing. I started to lift 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:44.480 my head maybe a couple of inches, and I was 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:48.959 so incredibly heavy and so shocked by that that I 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:53.000 said never mind, because it felt like my my neck 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:56.480 way a thousand pounds. And that's when I realized the 0:12:56.520 --> 0:13:01.280 extent to which my body had just become entirely relaxed, 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:04.520 as well as my mind. Yeah, all right, we're gonna 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:06.560 take a quick break, and when we come back, we're 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:09.920 going to enter one of the more obvious realms of 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:12.160 the senses here, that is that is being taken away 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:13.600 from us in the tank. We're going to talk about 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:16.040 sight and we're gonna talk about the darkness, and then 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:17.520 after that we're also going to try and catch up 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:30.120 on a little of the stroman. All right, we're back, 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:32.480 and now it's time to talk about the darkness and 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:35.840 talk about the darkness. Darkness? What about what our encounter 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:38.200 with the darkness inside of the tank? All right? So 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:41.800 are you talking about hallucinations? Yes? Yes, Okay, Well, the 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:43.840 first time, I really, like I said, it was sort 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:47.760 of a struggle between being present and letting myself go 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:50.840 and being preoccupied with what was going on with my 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:54.520 body or you get my stomach gurgling um. But I 0:13:54.559 --> 0:14:00.240 did see a crusty eyeball staring at me. Whoa, which 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:05.520 I wasn't crusty sort of well, sort of like opaque 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:10.720 looking eyeball that just looked crusty and old. And I 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:13.120 wasn't I mean, I wasn't thrilled with that. I wasn't 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:15.880 scared by it, but uh no, it was just sort of, 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:20.400 like I said, opaque looking. And that was the extent 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:22.400 of that. But the second time, I floated by the 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:26.480 way it just when I went back in. It's amazing 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:28.320 how your brain just mapped all this stuff out, and 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:32.400 it's ready for the experience. The smell, everything, the water temperature. 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:35.160 None of this was surprised to me, so I was 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:38.760 able to get into that altered state much quicker. And 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:40.720 the second time, I just sort of saw a bunch 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:44.040 of very odd things, like um as if I were 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:46.960 a lizard crawling up a rock, and seeing my little 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:50.600 lizard arms crawling up those sorts of things, and not 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:53.520 to mention having just um a lot of very interesting 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:56.720 thoughts about either how I operate in the world or 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:01.800 things I've experienced, wouldn't call them revelations, but things that 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:06.400 were sort of important that I needed to maybe acknowledge 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:08.960 or discuss with myself. Yeah, and I had trapped myself 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:11.520 in a box to do. So. Yeah, you're you're taking 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:13.640 that person that corners you at the party. You're trapping 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:16.240 them in the box with you, and you may think 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:18.840 to realize, I should maybe ask them about their job, 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:22.360 maybe I right, or maybe we have something or unresolved 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:25.360 issue I should talk about with this part of myself. 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.600 And it was really interesting because, as you say, there 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:30.640 are so many things that we can occupy our brains with, 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:33.080 you know, with trying to escape that person at the 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:36.920 party that when you are in that space and it's 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.120 just you and you. Then it becomes like, well, this 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:41.480 is very important, and those sort of things do rise 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:43.440 to the surface and you do have to deal with them, 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:45.520 albeit in a good way. I don't mean to say that, 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:48.240 you know, there's any sort of strife associated with us. 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:51.320 Now when you were picturing yourself as a lizard and 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:55.160 uh and some more things, were these colorful in any way? 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:58.880 Were they? Like? No, it was more like desert colors. 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:01.920 Is that makes it's like more sort of fitting in 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:06.360 with the rain than I was scaling? Okay, cool? Oh 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:09.600 well with me? Um? Well, I basically, you know, I 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:11.080 go into the tank and it's all dark in your 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:13.000 eyes kind of a just to you know, sort of 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:15.960 dancing lights a little bit, you know. At first, and 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:18.080 after a while i'd been in there and I had 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:22.000 the experience hearing the ocean, and then I I was 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:24.960 observing some light and at first I thought that light 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:27.280 was leaking in through the tank, and my my first 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:29.520 thought was, well, this is kind of a crappy sensory 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:32.880 deprivation tank because there's all this light leaking into it, 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:34.840 or somebody has come into the room and opened a 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:39.040 window or something or the or something's a jar. And 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:42.720 then I quickly realized that this was not actual light. 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.040 I was seeing light. I was seeing this kind of 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:49.520 gray light as if it were leaking in to the tank, 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:52.080 but it wasn't actually illuminating anything, like I couldn't see 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:55.600 my body or anything. I was just seeing light, uh, 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:59.400 specifically at the the edges of my site. And as 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:02.680 I sort of watch the light some more, I saw 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:07.560 like a human skull um like a gray light made 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:09.280 of the same gray light that I was receiving, a 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:13.040 human skull made of this rotating. And of course if 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:15.200 you know me, then you know it probably didn't take 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:17.040 much for me to think or imagine a skull, So 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:21.080 I don't know, but it hello, dear Horatio did. I 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:23.520 did not speak to it, but I saw it rotating there. 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:25.840 And then that kind of went away, and I saw 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:29.919 like a like a whole bunch of like like gray 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:33.520 sea an enemy tentacles of the They're not really tend 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:35.760 are they tentacles? I'm not up on my see an 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:39.760 enemy an enemy they are well, and I mean maybe uh, 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:43.880 maybe they are, but they don't remind me of technacle, right, Yeah, 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:47.800 those appendages that they have, um, so they were kind 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:50.480 of dancing, They're just kind of undulating, as if in 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:53.040 a c current, and they were also composed of that 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:56.640 same sort of gray light, almost kind of an ectoplasmy 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:59.720 substance as the skull. And then that kind of faded 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:03.720 away and I didn't have any more visual hallucinations for 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:07.720 the remainder of the episode. UM, I have to share 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:09.560 with you that the first time that I floated, I 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:14.560 did find myself at one point giggling, just crazy giggling, 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:16.800 and I was sort of like afterward afraid of well, 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:18.320 I wonder if they heard me in the other room. 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:21.800 But the reason I was giggling is because they were 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:25.120 things that I started to think about that seems so 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:29.000 important that I was stressed out about that. In the 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:33.480 light of that experience, I just it became hilarious. And 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:35.960 I will say that after my second float, a couple 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:40.199 of hours after that, my husband was, you know, we 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:42.639 were talking about something fixing dinner, and he started stressing 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:46.359 out about something and I started laughing again at him 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:48.280 because he was stressed out. I was still in this 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:52.360 state and he was like, oh, it was like, seriously, 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:55.080 is this how you're going to be all night. Um. 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:57.480 So I will say that the second time, I really 0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:00.600 felt like the after effects of that were much more announced, 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:03.120 that I was viewing the world a little bit more 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:06.399 outside of myself and not trying to make my my 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:09.600 husband feel bad by laughing at him. But it was funny. 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:13.720 Time was really strange in the in the tank because 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:15.960 when I first got in, you know, everything was sort 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:18.080 of new and I'm taking it in, and then nothing 0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:20.359 was really happening, and I started thinking, oh, I'm going 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:24.920 to be in here an hour. I I and I 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:28.520 actually started thinking what if I just would How badly 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:30.760 would the lady at the front judge me if I 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:34.160 left after fifteen minutes? You know, how how much of 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:35.800 a of a square would I appear to be? If 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:38.639 that was my story. I sat there for fifteen minutes, 0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:40.919 so I just got wet, so I just left, you know. 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:43.440 But but then I stayed there longer, and eventually I 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:46.680 did lose complete track of time. So when the when 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:49.520 the filtration system finally kicked in and the music came on, 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:52.040 I was really shocked. I was like, Wow, I can't 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:55.200 believe an hour's passed. That was interesting to talk to Maryland. 0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:59.119 She she's the person at the Harmony Wellness and Yoga 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:03.640 Center in Georgia and Tucker, Georgia, and she was saying that, Um, 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:05.840 she says, the tank is the teacher, which, by the way, 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:09.280 the tank is made by somebody, which is the somebody 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:13.000 And is this idea of um being the tool of 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:17.880