Speaker 1: Dudes from Carolina to Florence Park. Here we are joint
Speaker 1: practices back to back. We broke it down last week
Speaker 1: in the sun You myself, Quincy and noonwalkch.
Speaker 2: It's a lot better in the studio.
Speaker 1: Jets basically conclude training camp here their joint workout with
Speaker 1: the Giants.
Speaker 3: What stood up?
Speaker 4: I think this was a lot different from the Carolina
Speaker 4: Panthers practice. Yeah, I know we had a discussion about
Speaker 4: that being kind of a mixed bag. I think the
Speaker 4: Jets were intent in regards to showing who they are
Speaker 4: the standard today. And one thing I will say is
Speaker 4: this Jets offense score a lot of points with eight
Speaker 4: at quarterback. Some of the throws that he made, I
Speaker 4: know we're talking about this throughout the podcast, but one
Speaker 4: that comes to mind specifically is a seam route down
Speaker 4: the scene to Jeremy Rutger. He put it over the
Speaker 4: linebacker's head in front of the safety. We're only Rucker
Speaker 4: to catch it. But it was the velocity of how
Speaker 4: the ball popped out of his hands that was like
Speaker 4: eye popping to me, Like only like three or four
Speaker 4: quarterbacks were making that throw in the NFL. Again with
Speaker 4: him at quarterback, this Jets team is gonna score a
Speaker 4: lot of points.
Speaker 1: I've seen every training camp practice. I think the play
Speaker 1: at camp was Rogers to Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 4: Today, six touchdown, correct, and the protection was amazing on
Speaker 4: that play. And me, you talked about this, EA, Tyron Smith.
Speaker 4: That's a different dude. That's a different dude because he
Speaker 4: was going against Brian Spider. Burns was one of the
Speaker 4: top rushers in this league. And the way he neutralized
Speaker 4: him on that player, I hadn't seen anybody do Burns
Speaker 4: like that. Now, again, it's one play you're gonna get
Speaker 4: got in this league, that's what it is. But it
Speaker 4: was the way it happened, EA, that that really opened
Speaker 4: my eyes because it seemed like it was easy, right,
Speaker 4: and that dude went healthy. I think everybody knows this
Speaker 4: is one of the best guys in the league. I mean,
Speaker 4: he was a second team All Pro last year, right,
Speaker 4: and didn't even play a complete season, So I'll let
Speaker 4: you know how good he is. So again, the offense,
Speaker 4: and I think what people aren't talking about enough is
Speaker 4: this defense was top ten and sex I believe number
Speaker 4: seven in the NFL. Without having the lead in the
Speaker 4: game for most of the season. With this offense, the
Speaker 4: way that Aaron Rodgers looks, the way this offensive line
Speaker 4: is blocked, you would assume they're going to have a
Speaker 4: lead in most games or in a good portion of games,
Speaker 4: and that is going to really play well for how
Speaker 4: this defense is made up in regards to Robert Salad
Speaker 4: and this defensive line and Jeff Olbrich in the way
Speaker 4: he calls it, how they'll be able to pin their
Speaker 4: ears back and go get the quarterback. So again, I
Speaker 4: thought this was a much more of a dominating performance
Speaker 4: by the Jets.
Speaker 1: So I stuck with the offense most of the day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna get to you and the Jets defense
Speaker 1: versus the Giants. Correct here in a couple of moments.
Speaker 1: The only thing that I think stopped the Jets offense
Speaker 1: today were a couple drops early early in the red zone.
Speaker 1: But after that, it.
Speaker 3: Was just the consistency.
Speaker 1: Man, you know, you feel like sometimes was Rogers playing
Speaker 1: quarterbacks is inevitable that you're going to get down the
Speaker 1: field and you're gonna get into score in territory.
Speaker 4: And I think the biggest thing compared to last year
Speaker 4: and this year EA to me was the protection.
Speaker 2: Yep, like Aaron Rodgers had time, like.
Speaker 4: They had a two minute drill at the end, and
Speaker 4: there was a play that Brian Burns was kind of
Speaker 4: banged up.
Speaker 2: He was behind the line. Even Robert Solid helped him up.
Speaker 4: But in Aaron Rodgers fashion, he rushed everybody to the line,
Speaker 4: hiked the ball before you know, Brian Burns could cross
Speaker 4: the line scrimmers, so it would be encroachment on the
Speaker 4: defense and it's a free play. That would have been
Speaker 4: a touchdown, but they called the penalty and they brought
Speaker 4: the ball back. And the next play, Aaron Rodgers gets
Speaker 4: the ball, tipped the line of scrimmage interception, but the
Speaker 4: Giants jumped off free So it's a free play.
Speaker 2: When I tell you there was four seconds left on
Speaker 2: the clock.
Speaker 4: The ball was at the two yard line, and the
Speaker 4: way he was able to go through his progressions because
Speaker 4: of the protection and then side arm, I don't even know.
Speaker 4: Do you know who the touchdown catch? That's right, they
Speaker 4: had to cross. They had I think a scissors concept
Speaker 4: right there. But it was the way that Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 4: threw it. He side armed it. It was ridiculous, Like
Speaker 4: me Joe Douglas were sitting in the back watching it,
Speaker 4: and I just looked at him and said, excuse my first,
Speaker 4: that's ridiculous like that, Like there's no way like he
Speaker 4: should be able to do that, like to throw it
Speaker 4: around a defensive lineman's head side arm, but to have
Speaker 4: the pace of the ball that was there to get
Speaker 4: it to Lazar so nobody's hands gets on it. Again,
Speaker 4: this is under pressure too, because this is four seconds.
Speaker 4: If he doesn't score right there, the Giants win the game, right,
Speaker 4: So like for him to be in that type of
Speaker 4: pressure situation to be cool, calm and collective what you
Speaker 4: expect for a god that's played twenty years. But it's
Speaker 4: just different when you see it up close in person.
Speaker 1: How about how many times the guy gets free play
Speaker 1: with the jumps. I mean, you played defensive line in
Speaker 1: the national football It has to be so frustrating playing
Speaker 1: against him. And he continues to move the ball down
Speaker 1: the field, so you're gonna get a little bit more fatigued,
Speaker 1: and you're in those situations where you want to get
Speaker 1: to the quarterback and here we go, it gets us
Speaker 1: to jump and the guy just gets free play after
Speaker 1: free play.
Speaker 4: I remember in twenty fourteen we did like a simulated
Speaker 4: team period based off of Aaron Rodgers in his hard count,
Speaker 4: because that's how good he is. Because we went up
Speaker 4: to Green Bay and played that year. He's gonna get
Speaker 4: like one or two a game, and you know he's
Speaker 4: taking a shot down the field, it's gonna be a
Speaker 4: free play. So the way he's able to inflict his
Speaker 4: voice to get off of a defensive lineman to jump
Speaker 4: and like you said, after rep like five or six,
Speaker 4: you're a little fatigue, right, You're not thinking that I
Speaker 4: need to wash the ball and not the sound canans
Speaker 4: right because it's too manute situation. There's no way he's
Speaker 4: going double canes on us. Aaron Rodgers will get you
Speaker 4: right and get a free play. And I think that's
Speaker 4: something that's gonna be added to this just offense as well,
Speaker 4: like the out of added plays the offense will get
Speaker 4: because he's able to not only get people to jump
Speaker 4: off sides, but like hurry up situations like I talked
Speaker 4: about the Brian Burns injury, Like when guys are trying
Speaker 4: to substitute, Oh, Aaron Rodgers will call a.
Speaker 2: Play at a lot of scrimmage to get twelve on
Speaker 2: the field.
Speaker 4: That's just what he does, and so you gotta think
Speaker 4: when you add that out throughout the years, throughout the year,
Speaker 4: how many more plays is the offense going to get
Speaker 4: because of Aaron Rodgers and being able to be savvy
Speaker 4: and do those type of things.
Speaker 1: But you were probably most encouraged about, aside from Rogers,
Speaker 1: to play the offensive line, because we talked about Brian Burns, Thibodeau,
Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence, one of the best interior presidents of football,
Speaker 1: and across the board.
Speaker 2: Clean Pockets man did a nice shop, Clean.
Speaker 4: Pockets, And you really get to test that in two
Speaker 4: minutes because the defensive lineman, like myself, we're thinking about
Speaker 4: just teeing off and getting to the quarterback because knowing
Speaker 4: the situation, I think the Jets were down by four or.
Speaker 2: Five right in nineteen fourteen five points.
Speaker 4: I want to say, there was like originally like fifty
Speaker 4: eight seconds on the clock, right, only one time out,
Speaker 4: So you're thinking, like, you're not probably running the ball
Speaker 4: in this scenario, right, I can pin my ears back
Speaker 4: and go get the quarterback first play. You always worry
Speaker 4: about maybe they throw a drawl or screen of there
Speaker 4: just to get the offense going a little bit. But
Speaker 4: with fifty eight seconds. That's a little chance. You got
Speaker 4: a little bit more time you worry about that fifty
Speaker 4: eight seconds. Now they're throwing the ball, so you can
Speaker 4: pin your ears back. So for Aaron to have the
Speaker 4: pocket that he had right, says something about this revamped
Speaker 4: offensive line, says something about Tyras Smith who I mentioned,
Speaker 4: says something about Elijah Vera Tucker, you know, Joe Tipman,
Speaker 4: Simpson and also Morgan Moses for them to keep the
Speaker 4: pocket clean. And then also shout out to Max Mitchell
Speaker 4: because he came in a few plays. You know, they
Speaker 4: because you know, with Tyron Smith, a few of the
Speaker 4: teams like he would be in for a few plays,
Speaker 4: they'd bring him out.
Speaker 2: He plays.
Speaker 4: So even Max Mitchell played really well day. And when
Speaker 4: you're on the island with Brian Burns, that's saying a
Speaker 4: lot right for you to be able to block him
Speaker 4: one on one and have it where there's no slip
Speaker 4: off or drop off and Aaron Rodgers still has a
Speaker 4: clean pocket.
Speaker 1: The rogers to Garrett Ball, you were talking about Tyron
Speaker 1: and his blocking on that play. Oh my god, you
Speaker 1: were focused on that. Did you see anything as far
Speaker 1: as the release is concerned with Garrett. When Garrett's outside
Speaker 1: the numbers and he singled up against Nick McLeod, I'm
Speaker 1: just throwing his name out there and not take a
Speaker 1: shot at McCleod.
Speaker 3: More so to say.
Speaker 2: On Wilson earlier in the practice too.
Speaker 1: That is a tough assignment or anybody in the league.
Speaker 1: And Garrett just the way he moves off the line.
Speaker 1: If you don't get your hands on him and his speed,
Speaker 1: it just jumps out at you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The thing is he's so shifty on his release game.
Speaker 4: It's almost likely gonna say it like a basketball player.
Speaker 4: As far as the euro step that he gives you.
Speaker 4: I think me and Brandon Marshall, he was out here today,
Speaker 4: we were talking about it. We were just so surprised,
Speaker 4: even though it is practice, that they wouldn't still like
Speaker 4: shave the safety that way.
Speaker 1: While I was sitting there with Quincy pre snap and
Speaker 1: I said, do you think he's going there because it
Speaker 1: sure look like he wasn't getting help.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think they just wanted to get their
Speaker 4: corners against a premieer receiver.
Speaker 2: And that's the best way to get better.
Speaker 4: Right now. If this is a game, I don't think
Speaker 4: we'll see that. I think there will be somebody over
Speaker 4: the top of Garrett Wilson. I don't know if he'll
Speaker 4: have free reign like that, because if you put him
Speaker 4: one on one against any corner in this league, I
Speaker 4: think he's that good where he's gonna get a free
Speaker 4: release and he's gonna get open and Aaron Rodgers is
Speaker 4: gonna find him. And that's the thing that's really great
Speaker 4: too about Aaron Rodgers, like just understanding because he's been
Speaker 4: in the game so long what the defense is trying
Speaker 4: to do. He realizes when garretson one on one, that's
Speaker 4: where the ball's going, Like there's no I'm looking at No,
Speaker 4: this is where the ball's going if he's in one
Speaker 4: on one. Another play that really highlighted Aaron Rodgers today
Speaker 4: and I said this last week in Carolina when I
Speaker 4: saw some of his mobility. We saw a rollout to
Speaker 4: the right and he was picking them up, putting them
Speaker 4: down EA.
Speaker 2: And the way he was able to throw a rope
Speaker 2: to Garret Wilson on a run.
Speaker 4: Also would have to say that gives you a lot
Speaker 4: of excitement in regards to his health and being all
Speaker 4: the way back as well, because again he's one of
Speaker 4: the best guys not only at making guys jump off sides,
Speaker 4: also getting twelve men on the field, but improving right
Speaker 4: when nothing is there, getting outside the pocket and being
Speaker 4: able to throw the ball down the field. He's one
Speaker 4: of the best of the league and doing that, and
Speaker 4: we saw that on that.
Speaker 1: Play and that moved the ball late games situation. Exavier
Speaker 1: Gibson involved as well. Do you like what you're seeing
Speaker 1: from him? Do you see the steps as far as
Speaker 1: that connection with him, because he's a guy I think
Speaker 1: that maybe find a little bit under the radar because
Speaker 1: he's banged up at the start of training camp, but
Speaker 1: you're starting to see him be become more.
Speaker 3: Part of this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they've niched out a nice little role for him
Speaker 4: and to your point, was banged up in the beginning
Speaker 4: of training camp. We started to see it a little
Speaker 4: bit more last week in Carolina and them getting them
Speaker 4: involved in the offense. We saw it in the move
Speaker 4: the ball Perreod. He had a nice catch on a
Speaker 4: comeback route as well. So I think Aaron Rodgers it
Speaker 4: always comes down to and me. You and Q talked
Speaker 4: about this. What Xavier is One, he's dependable. Two he
Speaker 4: knows all the positions on the receiver, all three positions
Speaker 4: at receiver, so they can plug and play him. And
Speaker 4: then also you get the punt return aspect of it,
Speaker 4: which he's really big in. But I think they're starting
Speaker 4: to trust him a little bit more on offense. I
Speaker 4: think he could be a nice little piece to this offense.
Speaker 4: He's kind of carved out a nice little niche for
Speaker 4: himself on this offense.
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering what this is all going to look
Speaker 1: like when Mike Williams returns as well. Whoo man, just
Speaker 1: another guy you have to account for sure, you know.
Speaker 4: And when you look at Mike and you're praying that
Speaker 4: he's back to the guy he was before the injury.
Speaker 4: The reason why they got him eates because he's one
Speaker 4: of the best fifty to fifty jump ball contested catchers
Speaker 4: in the league. So we just talked about a scenario
Speaker 4: where probably in game scenario, they would shade the safety
Speaker 4: over to get But if you do that, now you're
Speaker 4: one on one with Mike Williams and nobody throws a
Speaker 4: better back shoulder faith than Aaron Rodgers. All right, or
Speaker 4: fade period where Mike can go up and get the ball.
Speaker 1: So can you, by the way, can you describe his
Speaker 1: long ball because Aaron because he throws it differently.
Speaker 3: Obviously, the flick at the risk maybe perhaps.
Speaker 1: The best thrower to the football in the history of
Speaker 1: this game.
Speaker 3: But as far it's like it's almost.
Speaker 1: Like a skyball, but he can put it up their
Speaker 1: fifty some yards and the one to Garrett that we
Speaker 1: were talking about it it's you couldn't place it anybody.
Speaker 4: It's ridiculous because literally it's like a flick at the risk.
Speaker 4: You know, most guys when they're trying to throw the
Speaker 4: ball deep, depending on their arm strength, they have trouble
Speaker 4: driving it, so I gotta put more air on it.
Speaker 2: Well, Aaron Rodgers doesn't have that issue.
Speaker 4: He could put the ball anywhere on the football field,
Speaker 4: so like he could be running to the left, square
Speaker 4: up and just flick the ball, but it literally lands
Speaker 4: right in Garrett Wilson's hands right. Also, Tyrod Taylor had
Speaker 4: a nice one to Brownie which was a nice adjustment
Speaker 4: by Brownlee. He put enough air on it so he
Speaker 4: could adjust to it in the air and the second
Speaker 4: team offense went down and scored and moved the ball too.
Speaker 2: So but yeah, with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4: Like, like I said, the play the Rutcker was just
Speaker 4: utterly ridiculous. The side arm, the side arm throw to
Speaker 4: Alan Nizard for the toptown ridiculous. And then the one
Speaker 4: to Garret Wilson when he was one on one with
Speaker 4: McLeod great protection, literally just flick at the wrist and
Speaker 4: he put it right where only Gary wilsonking.
Speaker 1: All right, let's flip it into the defense side of
Speaker 1: the ball. And we're just talking about Sauce Gardner meeting
Speaker 1: Malik Neighbors.
Speaker 3: For the first time.
Speaker 1: What did you see from not only Sauce but the
Speaker 1: other guys out there, whether it be Dj Reed or
Speaker 1: Brandon Eckles, because they moved this guy around.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought the defense did a really good job.
Speaker 4: I know we were talking about this last week in
Speaker 4: Carolina where I felt like they gave up some plays
Speaker 4: early to the Carolina Panthers. There there were a couple
Speaker 4: of plays that Daian Jones and the offense made, but
Speaker 4: the defensive line turned it up. Jermaine and Johnson had
Speaker 4: a few sacks out there. Also, the coverage there was
Speaker 4: a couple of covered sacks like where Dale Jones we
Speaker 4: had nowhere to go and just taking it back to
Speaker 4: the first play of Team Jets versus Giants. Dane Jones
Speaker 4: was right, so like a defensive line came to play today.
Speaker 4: I really love what I saw from Quincy and CJ
Speaker 4: as well from the linebacking position. A great communication in
Speaker 4: regard to the secondary because there were a couple of
Speaker 4: bunch formation, a couple of motion things.
Speaker 2: They had to work some things out.
Speaker 4: Sauce didn't get a lot of work today, which isn't
Speaker 4: rare because people just don't attack him. Actually, Theo Johnson
Speaker 4: got him a little bit on the inside route but
Speaker 4: end up dropping the ball. But that was the only
Speaker 4: time I actually saw him one on one with somebody
Speaker 4: where they actually went to him, you know, went towards
Speaker 4: his direction with the ball. But other than that, we
Speaker 4: were talking about this off Camery Hey, like even in
Speaker 4: that moved the ball here, like the ball never.
Speaker 2: Went to his never went to the side of the field.
Speaker 4: So if your Sau's gone, are kind of liking it
Speaker 4: to you know, Sherman Richard Shermy used to be on
Speaker 4: the field like this, yeah, because it's like nobody wants
Speaker 4: to throw towards me. But he does a really good job.
Speaker 4: His process is what I really love that Sauce does.
Speaker 4: Like even if the ball isn't coming this, but he's
Speaker 4: still locked in. Every single play you see him communicating
Speaker 4: with the other dbs. He's locked in in regards with
Speaker 4: their motion, what they're gonna do, if they're gonna, you know,
Speaker 4: china this thing, or where they pass things off. He's
Speaker 4: always communicating with the defensive back. So I really love
Speaker 4: what I saw from the defense. I mean I went
Speaker 4: back and forth. Was mainly on the defensive side. Again,
Speaker 4: the Giants did make a few plays in that first team,
Speaker 4: but other than that, the defense did their thing all right.
Speaker 1: So on the field in between the white lines, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of trash talking. How much talking was going
Speaker 1: on on that side going because what I noticed was
Speaker 1: Sauce was a little saucy to end up practice. Multiple
Speaker 1: times he's waving to the Giant sideline saying, Hey, I
Speaker 1: have a nice trip home. We took care of business today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really wasn't much.
Speaker 4: I think there was a I got Chuck Clark, He's
Speaker 4: gonna make his presence. Know, had another big hit on
Speaker 4: air Gray like the last week it was two but over,
Speaker 4: So maybe he just has a thing against running backs.
Speaker 3: I just think he likes to hit man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nice hit on Aeric Gray to day right at
Speaker 2: the goal line.
Speaker 4: Stood him up man and opened up a lot of
Speaker 4: eyes on the defensive side and kind of brought some
Speaker 4: energy to that on the defensive side as well.
Speaker 2: There really wasn't much like talking.
Speaker 4: I think gods just went out there to work today,
Speaker 4: Like really just get some good working versus a you know,
Speaker 4: another opponent that wasn't.
Speaker 3: What do you think about Sauce being the showman right there?
Speaker 2: That money at the end.
Speaker 4: I mean again, when the offense goes out, the scores,
Speaker 4: the defense gets off the field right then it's two
Speaker 4: offense goes out and scores and the two defense.
Speaker 2: Gets up Like you feeling confident, You feel good.
Speaker 1: So let's let's talk about that series, the one defense
Speaker 1: against the Giants once at the end. Because he said
Speaker 1: Sauce was lonely. That means that where Daniel Jones was
Speaker 1: going was in Ford's direction. That was and DJ Reid
Speaker 1: responded with a couple pds. Nice plays towards the sideline
Speaker 1: after a long and completion to Belik Neighbors that you
Speaker 1: thought probably should have been caught, but also it was
Speaker 1: a sack, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4: If it wasn't a sack, he would have been getting
Speaker 4: hit when he threw it and he wouldn't have been
Speaker 4: able to get as much on the ball.
Speaker 3: So that play doesn't even happen to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't happen. Out Again, Malik Davers did beat
Speaker 4: DJ Reid. There had about probably two three yards a cushion,
Speaker 4: so Malie Neighbors literally had to turn like we're looking
Speaker 4: at you right now.
Speaker 2: He had to turn around to try to catch it.
Speaker 4: It did hit him in the hands, he dropped it,
Speaker 4: but that's a hard catch when you're running full speed
Speaker 4: and then you have to revert back, and then you're
Speaker 4: now you're backpelling, which is unnatural for a receiver to.
Speaker 2: Try to catch the ball.
Speaker 4: But again, the slot corner, I think it was Echoes
Speaker 4: came off the edge Scott Free. He would have been
Speaker 4: hitting Daniel Jones as he was throwing that ball, or
Speaker 4: it would have been a sack sack fumbled maybe, So
Speaker 4: I don't think that ball even gets there. But to
Speaker 4: double down on what you were talking about earlier, DJ
Speaker 4: Reid also another heads up player. I think it was
Speaker 4: Darius Slade on an out route, he was up in
Speaker 4: the air, ridiculous catch. It was a really good catch,
Speaker 4: but DJ Reid had the presidence of mind to pick
Speaker 4: him up and take him out of bounds because it
Speaker 4: does there's no force out anymore.
Speaker 2: You have to get two feet in bounds.
Speaker 4: So that was a great job presence of mind to
Speaker 4: understand where the sideline is, where your help is to
Speaker 4: push the player out of bounds so he can't get
Speaker 4: two feet in.
Speaker 3: Well, that's what happens.
Speaker 1: But then at fourth on I think they went back
Speaker 1: to the sideline again and he made he.
Speaker 4: Made a play that was the pass breakup on fourth
Speaker 4: It was a guy to have it for them on
Speaker 4: fourth down and DJ read again showed up and he
Speaker 4: was big in that in that spot to get the
Speaker 4: Jets off the field on the fourth down.
Speaker 1: How much do you envision saw us actually traveling here
Speaker 1: as we get to the regular season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about this before. Yeah, I think it
Speaker 2: was a big surprise.
Speaker 4: In week one of his rookieyear, they actually had him
Speaker 4: traveling with Mark Andrews, right, And.
Speaker 2: You've seen it periodically, And that's the thing.
Speaker 4: DJ reads a really good corner, so in his mind,
Speaker 4: he's like I'm a number one quarter. We don't need
Speaker 4: to travel because I'm that good, right, But I think
Speaker 4: you'll see a little bit more of it this year.
Speaker 4: Right in regards to Sauce potentially travel traveling with some
Speaker 4: some top receivers. Now you go to Buffalo and I
Speaker 4: know have stuff on, So he's probably not going to
Speaker 4: travel that game. Will he travel with Tyreek? Maybe they
Speaker 4: do it every once in a while. The only thing
Speaker 4: is you still got water on the other side. So
Speaker 4: it's just like Russell Dolphins. You necessarily don't need to
Speaker 4: travel because you've got two speed receivers on that team, right,
Speaker 4: And the way they motioned Tyreek is much you probably
Speaker 4: don't want to do it, right because they'll literally line
Speaker 4: him up like he's a tight end by the offensive
Speaker 4: tackle he's in the your position, like squatting down like this,
Speaker 4: and then at the snappy speed out like he's just gone.
Speaker 4: So they probably won't do it that game as well.
Speaker 4: And in New England they're still working with a lot
Speaker 4: of young receivers. So talking about that's what six games
Speaker 4: right there. I don't think he'll travel in any of
Speaker 4: those games, So it just depends on who the Jets
Speaker 4: actually play, and if they have a marquee guy, then
Speaker 4: I can see him doing it some. I don't think
Speaker 4: he'll do it the whole game, but I think he'll
Speaker 4: do it in spots.
Speaker 3: Where's be playing in Week one.
Speaker 4: I believe he will play in San Francisco. And now
Speaker 4: the thing is will he be ready? Is the question, right,
Speaker 4: because he's missed a lot of practice time. To me,
Speaker 4: that's not even the biggest question for them. Trent Williams
Speaker 4: is the biggest question. Like, this is a guy that
Speaker 4: shown in the past that he will hold out like
Speaker 4: and not show up for games if he feels like
Speaker 4: he's not getting paid his worth. And it's crazy to
Speaker 4: me that I know this IU thing has been.
Speaker 2: Blowed up, but how these people receivers?
Speaker 4: But this is this is the best tackling football and
Speaker 4: has been right, he's been. They've voted him a top
Speaker 4: ten player in the top one hundred for a reason.
Speaker 4: At offensive tackle.
Speaker 1: I was looking forward to this, Yeah, because you're gonna
Speaker 1: have two Hall of Famers as far as the tackle position,
Speaker 1: Tyrn then obviously Trent one Williams.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So like to me, that's the biggest concern, especially
Speaker 4: when you watched San Francis last week brought party, took
Speaker 4: some reps. Now, George Kittle and Deebo and Christian mccaffert
Speaker 4: didn't play, so there's a caveat. Yes, sure, but that
Speaker 4: old line did not look good the rest of the
Speaker 4: starters versus Saints defensive line. So to me, they need
Speaker 4: to be on the phone with Trent Williams, right, And
Speaker 4: if you're the Jets, maybe you're happy they're.
Speaker 2: Not on the phone Williams.
Speaker 4: Yes, you know, if you're a defensive lineman, you're like, well,
Speaker 4: I get the t off on the backup guy.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So so both fan bases right now are looking at
Speaker 1: Trent Williams from AYUK and then obviously yeah, so it's
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to see what.
Speaker 2: What transpires the next two and a half weeks.
Speaker 1: Because those are big time performers, pro bowlers, all right,
Speaker 1: So big picture, I want to get your thoughts here
Speaker 1: because we're talking takeaways from practice, but how about takeaways
Speaker 1: from training camp? Because the Jets had joint practices with
Speaker 1: the Commanders. You were here with the Panthers, you were here,
Speaker 1: and then finally concludes here with the Giants. What I
Speaker 1: see you can talk about the Jets, But also how
Speaker 1: do you ingest the information and take in what you
Speaker 1: saw on the field, Because listen, bottom line, Washington's in
Speaker 1: year one of their system, dan Quinn's coming on board.
Speaker 3: This is all new.
Speaker 1: They have a quarterback Jaden Daniels, Carolinas we talked about
Speaker 1: last week. It's a complete reset, Brice Young in year two,
Speaker 1: but a new coaching staff.
Speaker 3: The Giants right now, they have.
Speaker 1: Some players and we've talked about them here today, but
Speaker 1: they're also a team that feels like big time transition
Speaker 1: and who knows what they're all roads. Yeah, right, So
Speaker 1: the Jets obviously a very talented team, and you only
Speaker 1: can practice against who you're gonna play.
Speaker 4: But a big picture, yeah, I see when you break
Speaker 4: it down and look at all the cross practices and
Speaker 4: then all the regular training practices, I think this is
Speaker 4: a team that's gonna be there at the end of
Speaker 4: the year. Like they have a real legit chance with
Speaker 4: a Hall of Fame quarterback, a true number one receiver,
Speaker 4: a true number one running back, and a revamp offensive
Speaker 4: line that I can't remember the last time I said
Speaker 4: this for the Jets has a chance to probably be
Speaker 4: a top five unit if everybody's healthy right now. Again,
Speaker 4: people will say, well that's a big if, dude is
Speaker 4: because we haven't made You have to look at each
Speaker 4: year different. These are too, Like Morgan Moses has always
Speaker 4: been an iron man. Even when he was here, he
Speaker 4: was healthy and available. Yes, I know, Timeron Smith.
Speaker 1: You know he played thirteen games last season, but he was.
Speaker 2: A second team All Pro. Like what like, what are
Speaker 2: people that? What do you not get it?
Speaker 4: This dude was All Pro last year and thirteen. That
Speaker 4: lets you know how good he is, right, and then
Speaker 4: god forbid something happens. We're gonna knock on wood Lou,
Speaker 4: oh Lou, that's new. It's been cross training at both
Speaker 4: left and right tackle and in the game like there
Speaker 4: were some mistakes there, but you see why he's gonna
Speaker 4: be so talented and gifted.
Speaker 1: Right, he didn't practice ite, that's fine.
Speaker 3: Practice last week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, concern, no concern, But they're just in a better place.
Speaker 4: And then on the defensive side, yes, I know we
Speaker 4: talked about Reddick earlier, but really with love, what I've
Speaker 4: seen from Will McDonald.
Speaker 2: Uh his growth and past rushing.
Speaker 4: They've moved him around to I ain't gonna tell all
Speaker 4: the information, but he's moved around some like, just be prepared.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be fun on third downs.
Speaker 4: Jermaine is gonna be Jermaine right. He's gonna be steady Eddie.
Speaker 4: He's gonna be a guy that's gonna be rock solid
Speaker 4: against the run, and he's gonna be even better in
Speaker 4: past rushing this year.
Speaker 2: And then Quinn Williams is just a dog.
Speaker 3: I think your man could be double digits.
Speaker 4: I think he can get there too as well. I
Speaker 4: know a lot of people looked at me crazy when
Speaker 4: I said that. I said, you know, I think he
Speaker 4: had what seven and a half last year. I could
Speaker 4: see him ascending and getting two and a half more,
Speaker 4: maybe three more.
Speaker 1: I like that linebacker spot too, because you have CG.
Speaker 1: Molvesley's the heartbeat of the defense. He got Quincy correct.
Speaker 3: But Jimmie sure man man, he's a player.
Speaker 4: Like again, he doesn't play as much just because teams
Speaker 4: come out in eleven personnel, which is three receivers, so
Speaker 4: you want to match that up and go nickel.
Speaker 2: That's why Michael Carter plays so much. But he's a player.
Speaker 4: I guarantee he's going to be a part of the
Speaker 4: future when it comes to the just like, I think
Speaker 4: they're gonna do whatever they take can do because I
Speaker 4: think this is his forefeewd. I think he's free agent
Speaker 4: after this year, but I think it'd be crazy to
Speaker 4: let him out the door.
Speaker 1: Robert Sala said before today's practice with the Giants or
Speaker 1: the practice with the Giants.
Speaker 2: That.
Speaker 1: He was asked about what Aaron Rodgers said this week.
Speaker 1: Rogers said, this was a tough training camp.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the most difficult.
Speaker 3: Camps I've had in the last seven or eight years.
Speaker 1: At one point recently, Sala commented that two Rogers that
Speaker 1: were three hundred and fifty reps ahead a last year's
Speaker 1: pace at this time.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: And Danny talked today about Sala about load management. Where
Speaker 1: we are from a sports perspective, like.
Speaker 3: You got the sense that Robert went back.
Speaker 1: To his old school roots for training camp this year.
Speaker 1: How much can that help the Jets as they embark.
Speaker 2: On the season.
Speaker 4: Well, I think you got to look at it this
Speaker 4: way too, Like the starters haven't played in preseason, So
Speaker 4: the only way to get that, to build that callus
Speaker 4: up that we always talk about yea, is to get
Speaker 4: the reps out there on the field, right. So, I
Speaker 4: think it was pertinent for Robert Sala coming into this camp.
Speaker 2: You know, he wanted to.
Speaker 4: Make sure everybody build that up right, being smart, knowing
Speaker 4: that the advancements of sports medicine also adding in those
Speaker 4: off days for some of the veterans. But we wanted
Speaker 4: to make sure that everybody gets good work. That way,
Speaker 4: we hit the ground running week when we can't get
Speaker 4: to week one and have it be preseason for us,
Speaker 4: right that we're still trying to work the kinks out.
Speaker 4: And you'll see that in the NFL a lot by
Speaker 4: week three or four as when you really start to see.
Speaker 2: Teams become who they are, right.
Speaker 1: Nah.
Speaker 4: He's of the mindset that we need to be who
Speaker 4: we are week one, going into a gauntlet in San France, right, right,
Speaker 4: So I think when you think of it from that perspective,
Speaker 4: he's like, let's add some more reps on the body.
Speaker 4: Let's just make sure that we're right, right, because I'm
Speaker 4: gonna hold guys out of preseason games. Right, We're gonna
Speaker 4: do three cross practices. Because I was actually talking to
Speaker 4: a few Giants people, they are like, you guys have
Speaker 4: third three crossces. I was like, yeah, they've gotten three
Speaker 4: different looks right by the time the season starts. So
Speaker 4: and then you know, Robert already kind of talked about
Speaker 4: how he was looking at this practice for the ones, right.
Speaker 4: He kind of gave the ones that you know, a
Speaker 4: tapered I don't want to say a day off yesterday,
Speaker 4: but they had a lesson yesterday was more of a
Speaker 4: two or three practice. So today he knew he was
Speaker 4: gonna ratchet it up for the one so they can
Speaker 4: get that work right. So like, and it showed, well,
Speaker 4: guys were well rested. They came out there with a
Speaker 4: lot of energy, performing executed well. And we talked about
Speaker 4: that when we're doing the pregame live, not pregame lib
Speaker 4: but pre practice. Yeah, yeah, that you know, I thought
Speaker 4: in my head, just knowing Salah and how the training
Speaker 4: camp has gone, that he wanted to really treat this
Speaker 4: almost like a game for the starters. I think he's
Speaker 4: thought about having seventy five reps, which is what you
Speaker 4: would get during the game.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: So, like, we saw that out there, and we saw
Speaker 4: at the offense executed at high level. We saw the
Speaker 4: defense executed at a high level. Again, would be surprised
Speaker 4: if they actually do play in the game after this practice.
Speaker 4: But I think you know, Robert Solid staffed Joe Douglas
Speaker 4: from office. They got to feel good about how this
Speaker 4: training camp has went. Yes, even I don't mean to
Speaker 4: be so long with but even going back to last week, EA,
Speaker 4: we talked about it. I thought it was good that
Speaker 4: there was some miscommunication, that we faltered a little bit.
Speaker 4: That's what, right, Yeah, because you need a little bit
Speaker 4: of that, just so you can let yourself know and
Speaker 4: your teammates know, guys, we haven't arrived.
Speaker 2: And I thought that was good.
Speaker 4: That it happened in Carolina because you get the result
Speaker 4: that happened today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Robert talked about two schools of thought where some
Speaker 1: people are like, oh, get these guys out there ten
Speaker 1: plays in a preseason game. Maybe I'm a big proponent
Speaker 1: of maybe two series versus going hard out there in
Speaker 1: a joint practice for forty plays. And he thinks he
Speaker 1: didn't give an answer. But what we've seen so far
Speaker 1: here in training camp twenty twenty four is that the
Speaker 1: joint practices jet starters are getting a lot of good
Speaker 1: work in there, and Solid feels quite confident where this
Speaker 1: group is at right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's more than one way to do things, yep.
Speaker 4: Right, And when you look at it in the landscape
Speaker 4: of the NFL, there's been coaches that have done a
Speaker 4: multitude of things. There's been a combination of the two,
Speaker 4: whether it's cross practice and maybe getting some starters in
Speaker 4: the preseason. There's you know, teams like they can't see
Speaker 4: a Chiefs that don't cross practice as much, but their
Speaker 4: starters are getting you know, reps in the preseason game
Speaker 4: one games.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: So again, there's many different ways to do things. You
Speaker 4: just got to find what works best for your team.
Speaker 4: And you know, for solid he decided, you know, this
Speaker 4: year we're going to really put an emphasis on these
Speaker 4: cross practices, get good work against another opponent, right, and
Speaker 4: then maybe not play our guys in preseason, get ready
Speaker 4: for Week one.
Speaker 3: Cuts on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: So just gotta go from ninety to fifty three.
Speaker 3: As every team in the National.
Speaker 1: Football League, what are you keen in on as far
Speaker 1: as when you look at this roster, whether a position
Speaker 1: group or maybe a couple players.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there are going to be a lot of good
Speaker 4: players that get released. Unfortunately for the Jets, it's a
Speaker 4: dark day in the NFL. Because you got to think
Speaker 4: guys have literally trained their whole lives to be in
Speaker 4: this position and then to be released and told you're
Speaker 4: not gonna make the team. It's tough, but like the
Speaker 4: saying that we have in the locker room as thirty
Speaker 4: one others, right, So there will be some players that
Speaker 4: will be poached from this team, for sure.
Speaker 2: You look at the cornerback position.
Speaker 1: For sure.
Speaker 4: Our guy Jake Bernard Convers dealing with an injury right now,
Speaker 4: was having a heck over the camp.
Speaker 2: I think he's safe.
Speaker 4: It'll be interesting to see what they do because they
Speaker 4: did bring Isaiah Oliver in. We haven't seen much of
Speaker 4: him because he's been hurt. What do they do in
Speaker 4: regards to that, right safety? Do they keep three? Do
Speaker 4: they keep four? Who would be the fourth guy? The
Speaker 4: thing is Bernard Converse started off at safety or is
Speaker 4: he that guy that can go in between an emergency
Speaker 4: if they needed them too.
Speaker 3: That's interesting.
Speaker 1: I think what we saw in training camp that they're
Speaker 1: committed to him being Oh for sure, and he flashed too,
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. He does not look out of his element,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 4: And Stickers just played well as so he's going to
Speaker 4: be on the team, So it'd be how many corners
Speaker 4: do you actually keep right? And then safety is at
Speaker 4: three or four, and if it's three, it's been our congngress.
Speaker 4: That guy that goes is he the former Jason Pinnott essentially,
Speaker 4: you know, and then when you look at it receiver
Speaker 4: we've had this is a conversation with Q right, how
Speaker 4: many keep six or seven right?
Speaker 2: Where does Charles fit in there?
Speaker 4: What does brown Lee who had a nice touchdown catcher day,
Speaker 4: where does he fit in the right. That's another thing
Speaker 4: you look at. And then we've been talking about this one.
Speaker 4: I think this is the one that is the biggest
Speaker 4: question mark in off Yes, because there's gonna be some
Speaker 4: guys now if they keep ten, I don't think we
Speaker 4: have an issue except for Glazier because it's just like,
Speaker 4: what because Wes Sweisterer can play center two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Newman too.
Speaker 2: I'm not even Hanson played both.
Speaker 4: I know he plays yes, So that's like, so that's
Speaker 4: the that's the issue you there, Like one of them
Speaker 4: is probably gonnat Me Yeah, so and the Maxi Mitchell
Speaker 4: can play outside and inside. So that that's that's the questionnaire.
Speaker 4: And then d tackle I think it's going to be
Speaker 4: intriguing because I think Bruce Hector has a chance to
Speaker 4: make this roster.
Speaker 3: You've been on that train early and he had.
Speaker 4: A couple of great one on one reps, a couple
Speaker 4: of good team reps again today, So like he's a guy,
Speaker 4: Bruce Hector. Don't be surprised if you see his name
Speaker 4: on the fifty three.
Speaker 1: So the good thing is the Jets can bring some
Speaker 1: of these guys back to their practice squad.
Speaker 3: But to your.
Speaker 1: Point, everybody, everybody's free.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a fair game.
Speaker 2: Before. You got to.
Speaker 4: Think too, if you're the Carolina Panthers, you're the first
Speaker 4: on the wave while you got to see these guys
Speaker 4: up close and personal.
Speaker 3: Or the commanders or the Giants.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, because you're high up there in position poll
Speaker 4: in regards to Jeff Yeah, so like exactly, the commander's
Speaker 4: number two, right, So it's just like they get to
Speaker 4: see all these they've got to see the Jets up close,
Speaker 4: so they literally get to pick of the litter. If
Speaker 4: somebody were to get waived by the Jets.
Speaker 3: That would be no surprise.
Speaker 1: And we just watched a former Jet defensive back out
Speaker 1: there who's now starting at safety for the Giants, Jason Building.
Speaker 4: It's because of the versatility that great. He's a He's
Speaker 4: a great safety in regards to his ball skills. He
Speaker 4: knows how to go get the football. But good for him.
Speaker 4: I'm glad it worked out for him. And like I said,
Speaker 4: he's a starter for the Giants stuff.
Speaker 1: But I like this pairing with Clark and Adams.
Speaker 4: And we know their roads Like Clark is gonna be
Speaker 4: in the box enforcer, yes, Adam is gonna be middlefield safety,
Speaker 4: you can go get the ball.
Speaker 1: Who is also an energizer money and he's not afraid
Speaker 1: to lay the long ride at all. And Ashton Davis
Speaker 1: add him to the equation you.
Speaker 2: Saw last year, especially towards the end of the year.
Speaker 4: They're going three safety sets and Ashton had a real
Speaker 4: prominent position on defense. I mean, and and his his
Speaker 4: physicality is taking another level too.
Speaker 1: I agree, Oh my god, like athletic.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think that the mentality has mental is
Speaker 4: taking another level that I really love. Like the physical
Speaker 4: nature that he brings now as that third safety has
Speaker 4: been great.
Speaker 1: Did you see that clip of him blowing up the
Speaker 1: running back in Carolina?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 4: But you know what it reminded me of do you
Speaker 4: remember to play last year near the goal line where
Speaker 4: the Jets got the safety and he like blew up, yes,
Speaker 4: and Q was like, where's Aston? That's what that reminded
Speaker 4: me of in Carolina?
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was fun. What are the next couple of
Speaker 1: weeks gonna look like for you? The Jets get the
Speaker 1: regular season underway September ninth, Yeah.
Speaker 4: So this is week zero college football Week one, I
Speaker 4: have two games I'm calling for ESPN Thursday night, the opening,
Speaker 4: the official opening night of college football, and then that
Speaker 4: Saturday night as well, So I'll be all over the
Speaker 4: country calling two games. And then the following week is
Speaker 4: Week two in college football. Have a game that Saturday,
Speaker 4: but it's also week one of the NFL season, so
Speaker 4: I would be in.
Speaker 2: The studio for CBA Sports probably almost.
Speaker 1: Every Thanks man, it was fun and we'll be talking
Speaker 1: to super Sure I appreciated yet
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