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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, and welcome once again everybody to Big

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Speaker 1: as always right here for you on Giants dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Russ Salzburg, joined by my buddy Paul Detino.

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Speaker 1: Helping us with the controls is Pierson Butler, and of

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Speaker 1: course we got you at home to give us a

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Speaker 1: call at two zero one four five one three and

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Speaker 1: it is October one. Welcome to October. And I think

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Speaker 1: we all would have signed up. And let let me

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Speaker 1: preface that by saying what I said last week with Paul,

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Speaker 1: I said it again with David Deal, and I'll say

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Speaker 1: it again here today, beginning with you folks, this season

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Speaker 1: should be measured by the improvement from game to game,

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Speaker 1: not by WS and l's I know fans don't want

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Speaker 1: hear that. And and then really let's listen. You go

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Speaker 1: out each week wanting to win a game, and the

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Speaker 1: Giants have done that the past two weeks, which brings us,

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Speaker 1: as I said, into October, after a quarter of a season.

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Speaker 1: Paulie and you know, uh, we were always talking about

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Speaker 1: first quarter. You know, back in training camp, like three

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Speaker 1: and one would have been nice, and you you can

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Speaker 1: daydream about this, that and the other thing, but two

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Speaker 1: and two would have been viewed as very acceptable too.

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Speaker 1: And two is what they have as now they wait

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Speaker 1: for another visit, another home game uh at MetLife Stadium

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Speaker 1: this week by the Minnesota Vikings. Well, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: go by the same mathematical equation for the next quarter.

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Speaker 1: The Giants have four games in this quarter coming up Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: New England, Arizona, and Detroit. And I'm gonna say same

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Speaker 1: thing that we said about September. Can the Giants get

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Speaker 1: out of the next four games at two and two?

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Speaker 1: And if they can, that means they're for and for

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Speaker 1: the midway point of the season. And you still off

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Speaker 1: very much realistically, and again I get your improvement thing, rush,

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Speaker 1: but at four and four, you are still realistically putting

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Speaker 1: I mean that's fair, And don't get me wrong, folks,

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Speaker 1: I want the Giants to be in the playoffs as

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Speaker 1: much as anybody, Okay, as much as anybody. We all

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Speaker 1: think about that. And you know, when you win the

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Speaker 1: it allows you to think that way. Giants have won

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Speaker 1: two games in a row, very good and but the

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Speaker 1: most important thing about those two games, in particular the

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Speaker 1: second half of game three and last week, we saw

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Speaker 1: a steady improvement. You know, well, we will all year

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Speaker 1: floric about Daniel Jones. Okay, certainly in in in the

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Speaker 1: se Kwan Barkley. One heck of a fine performance. What

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Speaker 1: was it eighteen sixty three rushing us combined scrimmage, I think,

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Speaker 1: very very good game. But lost than that. Um, Listen,

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Speaker 1: The Giants also brought up linebacker Jose Josiah Tawefa from

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Speaker 1: and check in with Keith. Hello, Keith, how are you today?

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Speaker 1: Very good? Hi. I want to tell you I appreciate

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Speaker 1: your show. I listened to it all the time. Good,

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Speaker 1: the back of the pocket and Eli had no place

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Speaker 1: to step up too well, and that and that's the

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Speaker 1: whole point. It was not it was a perfect storm

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Speaker 1: for for so that is in entirely true. You are

428
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Speaker 1: extremely astute. I've talked about this with Carl Banks and

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Speaker 1: with David Deal. I saw it when it was happening

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Speaker 1: last year. I recognized it. I said, guys, this is

431
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Speaker 1: what I'm seeing, Am I right? And both of those

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Speaker 1: guys said, You've got it exactly right? So there you go,

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Speaker 1: so you're correct. Now here's the thing, here's the thing

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Speaker 1: where I won't agree with you on. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that soldiers having trouble finding the comfort zone for Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jones because to this point, Daniel Jones has only played

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Speaker 1: two games, and I don't think he has established enough

438
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Speaker 1: of a pattern of where he wants to set up

439
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: in the pocket or where he wants to shuffle too.

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Speaker 1: I think right now Daniel Jones is new. He's kind

441
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Speaker 1: of flying by the seat of his pants, and he's

442
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: feeling his way and he's growing into the position. I

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00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 1: don't think right now he has a favorite spot as

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Speaker 1: to where he wants to be great point one of

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Speaker 1: the point I want to bring up, and then I'll

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00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 1: listen to what you guys have to comment on. I

447
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 1: really think that this past game, it was great that

448
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 1: we won. We gave Washington so many opportunities to capitalize

449
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: all mistakes, and the defense showed up when they needed to,

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00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: and our offense played well enough to win the game.

451
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: It it probably should have been a much bigger blowout,

452
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, but it was really nice

453
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Speaker 1: to see that Daniel Jones with the two picks and

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00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: for them to happen in succession like that, was that

455
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Speaker 1: that would have been enough to to to to affect

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Speaker 1: anybody's mentality back there throwing a bowl, and he weathered

457
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 1: that storm. I think adversity is a huge thing, um,

458
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Speaker 1: and not just for the quarterback position, but for any player,

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Speaker 1: whether you're a corner giving up big plays or a

460
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: tight end or receiver dropping passes. He threw two picks

461
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: that could have really done something to damage his mindset

462
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Speaker 1: in the game, but he mustered will all he continued

463
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: to play well, and the fact that we won the game.

464
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Speaker 1: I think that you always have to go through something

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00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,959
Speaker 1: like this in order to what do they say, It's

466
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Speaker 1: not how many times you fall down. I think I

467
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: heard no Fuss Russ say this a bunch of time.

468
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: It's how you get how many times you get back

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Speaker 1: up or something like that, And I think looking forward

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Speaker 1: to seeing him alright, thank you guys, thank you for

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Speaker 1: the call. I mean, but I will say this and

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Speaker 1: Pat Sremer says it all the time. He talks about

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Speaker 1: his intelligence, his coolness. He is very much We're gonna

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Speaker 1: sound like broken records because we say it all the time.

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Speaker 1: He is very very much like Eli. I mean, you

476
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Speaker 1: gotta have a short memory. He's already when he comes

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Speaker 1: off the field, It's on to the next thing. I

478
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: can't be thinking about what always mean, what I just did?

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Speaker 1: I mean, he he's be old about it, but let's

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Speaker 1: gotta move on. I can't fix what just you get

481
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Speaker 1: to set that just happened. I gotta think about making

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Speaker 1: sure it doesn't happen again. So well, think about this

483
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: for us. Daniel Jones fumbled the ball away twice in

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, and he still was calm and cool and

485
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: professional and led them on a game when he touchdown drove.

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Speaker 1: He threw the ball away on two deceptions twice against

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Speaker 1: the Redskins, and both times came back and proceeded to

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Speaker 1: lead the team down the field and do what he

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00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: needed to do to get them a victory. So he

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Speaker 1: has now checked both of those boxes. Can he come

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Speaker 1: back from being hit and fumbling it? Yes, he can.

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Speaker 1: Can he come back from throwing a bad interception? Yes

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Speaker 1: he can. Daniel Jones continues to check every box, throwing

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Speaker 1: out of us weekend in week out. I mean it's

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00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: only been two weeks, but he's uh, he's passing all

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Speaker 1: the tests. If you the criteria is to be cool, calm,

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Speaker 1: and collected along with your talent, and as Paul just said,

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Speaker 1: he continues to check all the boxes and he does

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Speaker 1: so extremely well. To A one five one three is

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Speaker 1: the number. Let's go out to New Mexico and check

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Speaker 1: in with our friends. Scott. Hello, Scott, you're on with

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Speaker 1: Russ and what's up? Hi, guys, how are you doing today? Hello?

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Speaker 1: You know, watching the game last week, at no time

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Speaker 1: that I think Washington was going to win that game.

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Speaker 1: And the reason I am saying that, how it pretends

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Speaker 1: for the Minnesota game. If you look at the stats,

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Speaker 1: which I brought up on yesterday's broadcast, the third doubt

508
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Speaker 1: efficiency for the Giants was excellent. They were eight for

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Speaker 1: thirteen time possession, they were leading red zone attempts, they

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Speaker 1: were better rushing attempts, they were better so in almost

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Speaker 1: every statistical category they led. So I never got the

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Speaker 1: feeling that Washington was ever going to come back with Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: I had mentioned yesterday that I had watched the game

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Speaker 1: with Chicago. Now, I'm not comparing defenses because Chicago is

515
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Speaker 1: light years, yeah, ahead of anybody. Only New England probably

516
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: has a better defense. But looking at the game, there

517
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: was a definite push up the middle by the players

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Speaker 1: that they had on Chicago, And I know Khalil Mack

519
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: was creating havoc on the outside, but in regards to

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Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence and Tomlinson, can they create that kind of

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Speaker 1: pressure on the inside. Because I think this game will

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Speaker 1: come down to excuse me, statistically, UH time of possession again,

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Speaker 1: if the Giants can control that, and with Golden Tate

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Speaker 1: coming back, who gets a lot of yards after the catch,

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Speaker 1: I think if the Giants can maintain time of possession

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Speaker 1: and their down efficiency again, I don't think it's as

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Speaker 1: difficult as everyone's going to pretend to make it, because

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Speaker 1: I saw weaknesses when I was watching the Minnesota game

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Speaker 1: and they haven't played that well this year. Looking at

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Speaker 1: their team now, Chicago, I know is a totally different

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Speaker 1: UH team in regards to defense, but looking at the

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Speaker 1: Minnesota offensive lineman, it looks like they're vulnerable up the

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Speaker 1: middle and that was a thing that struck me because

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Speaker 1: with Pet Shermer's familiarity with Minnesota, he already recognizes that.

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Speaker 1: My biggest problem in regards is to the defense, because

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Speaker 1: I think if if Daniel Jones and the rest of

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Speaker 1: the offense can control time of possession, I have an

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Speaker 1: excellent chance to win. My biggest problem is does Bill

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Speaker 1: McGovern and Pat Shermer have enough time to assimilate to

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Speaker 1: two new players? Should uh the two linebackers for the

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Speaker 1: Giants not be able to come back this week, does

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Speaker 1: that give them enough time to get those guys situated?

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Speaker 1: And I know, Paul you had mentioned perhaps bringing jurbro

544
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Speaker 1: Peppers back into the box as possibly when you're short

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Speaker 1: on linebackers. I don't know if Joshua I hope I'm

546
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: pronouncing his name right, Jessica to say hello. And Chris Piece,

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Speaker 1: I think is the pick up the big He's an

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Speaker 1: edge guy though Pieces an edge guy, he's not an

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Speaker 1: inside Okay, no, he's guys. So do you view this

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00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: game as if we can get a push up the middle?

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00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: The fear which I always especially against Kirk Cousins, who

552
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: doesn't operate very well with pressure in his face. He

553
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: does not that might be the key to the game.

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Speaker 1: And I'll be glad to take your comments self to

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Speaker 1: your guys. All right, Scott, thank you. You know what,

556
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Speaker 1: I actually have to disagree with Scott because in my mind,

557
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: he kind of got around it in a roundabout way.

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00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: He went through the back door. Yes, you do want

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Speaker 1: to put the game in Kirk cousins hands, because if

560
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: you do pressure him, he has shown a tendency to

561
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Speaker 1: turn the ball over. But how do you do that? Russ?

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00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: You stop Dalvin Cook. If you don't stop Dalvin Cook

563
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Speaker 1: running the ball, you've got a huge problem. See here's

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Speaker 1: the thing about the Vikings. The Vikings want to run

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Speaker 1: the ball more than any other team in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League. In fact, going into that game against Tampa

567
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Speaker 1: last week, they were the number one team in terms

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Speaker 1: of percentage of runs from scrimmage compared to passing. They

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Speaker 1: are an old school style team. They want to run it,

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00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: run it, run it, run it, ground and pound and

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00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: they were successful doing it. And the reason that they

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00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,439
Speaker 1: want to do that is because they want to give

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins a sporting chance by keeping the game balanced.

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Speaker 1: They want to control the ball. They want to give

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Speaker 1: him opportunities to play action pass. And they also quite

576
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: honestly want to give Dalvin Cook an opportunity to continue

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Speaker 1: hammering away until he breaks some long runs, which is

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00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: not a bad idea because he's really good. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: if the Giants are gonna have any chance of winning

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00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: this game, they must do what the Bears did last week.

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Speaker 1: And it's not about pressuring guys up the middle, you know, no, truthfully,

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Speaker 1: if you take care of Cook early now here. Let

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Speaker 1: me give you an example. Last week against the Bears,

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Speaker 1: Cook finished with fourteen carries for thirty five yards, and

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00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: they took him out of the game early because his

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00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: first have stats eight carries for fifteen yards and a

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00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: long run of four. That's the key. If you're gonna

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00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: have a chance to beat the Vikings, you're going to

589
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: have to absolutely slam Cook's head into a brick wall

590
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: and make sure that they don't get a running game

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00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: going so that Cousins feels all the offenses wait on

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Speaker 1: his shoulders. That's the key to this game. Two oh

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00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: one four or five one three is the number. Back

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Speaker 1: to the phones we go. Let's go to New York

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Speaker 1: and check in with Lorie. Hello, Lourie, how are we

596
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 1: doing today. Hi guys, I gotta tell you every day

597
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 1: and I enjoy the heck out of what you do,

598
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: so thank you for what you do. Probably have a

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00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: question for you. Um. I finally got to a Giant

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00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: game on the first or the opening season game and

601
00:35:55,600 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: got to see Eli playing on the TV. UM also

602
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: saw him walk out of the stadium entered the tunnel

603
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: alone and it's pretty hard to see it. But what

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00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: I was wondering is, do you think there's any possibility

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00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 1: that Shermer and or Mara and Tish will lady like

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00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: play against New England. No? No, Laurie. Uh let me,

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00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: I'll say no, and then I'm going to ask you

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00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: a question. Why why should he play against New England?

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00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: Why should he? Well knocked him out? Okay, but you

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00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: think it would be a nice for him, But Laurie,

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00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: this is not Look you're talking to the two biggest

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Speaker 1: or two of the biggest. I'll say that because I'm

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00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 1: sure you're one of them. Lauri Eli fans just as

614
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 1: we are. But uh, sentiments. They were concerned about his feelings,

615
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: but this is about out moving forward. They made the decision,

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00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: much to the surprise of Paul and myself didn't think

617
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: of what happened this early. But this is not about

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00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: you know, if you want to feel sentimental, Eli is

619
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 1: feeling okay, what about twenty million dollars in his pocket

620
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: for sitting there as the backup? That's number one and

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Speaker 1: number two. This is not about sentiment. This is about

622
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 1: we're going in to try and win games, and the

623
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Speaker 1: coaching staff feels that right now. The guy who gives

624
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: them the best chance to do that is Daniel Jones.

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00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: And listen, um, I love Eli, but just just talk

626
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: to what you're talking about. This is not the same

627
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: Eli that was in those two times to knock out

628
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots in the Super Bowl. It's a

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Speaker 1: different I would say this to you. I would say

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00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: this to you Lorie. Okay, Um. The Giants are committed

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00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 1: now to moving forward with Daniel Jones and to trying

632
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: to teach him whatever he needs to learn as an

633
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: NFL rookie so that his development becomes a very positive

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00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: experience for the long term future of the organization. To

635
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: sit him down to just say, okay, well, now you

636
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: know you're gonna have to sit and watch this game

637
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: for no apparent reason other than you know you'd like

638
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: to to to be cute about having Eli play against

639
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Speaker 1: the Patriots. That just does not work. You know, if

640
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: if for some reason, Daniel Jones falls into a horrible slump,

641
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: has a couple of four interception games or five interception game,

642
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: and you know, you decide that maybe he should take

643
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 1: a game or two on the sidelines to try to

644
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: learn from it and get a break. Maybe there's something

645
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: positive to be gained from that. That does happen with

646
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: rookies sometimes they say take a step back. Short of

647
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: that happening, I don't see him coming out of the

648
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 1: line up. The only the only way he comes out

649
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: of the lineup, as far as I'm concerned, is if

650
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: God for bid, he gets hurt. And we don't want that.

651
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: Obviously that's unforeseen circumstances. But that, to me, that's the

652
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: only way I can see that happening. I mean, and

653
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: I'll give you another another little scenario, Laurie, and I

654
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: think Paul you would agree with this. Let's say the

655
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: Giants we're winning really big in a game, like really

656
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 1: big in a game, and you know, like forty two

657
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: to seven. Uh, Sometimes they put in the backup quarterback

658
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,959
Speaker 1: the Giants. I'm not going there. The Giants would never

659
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: do that. I'm not going there. They would not do

660
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: that to him. Well that it would be horrible. I'm

661
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: not going. Yeah, I'm gonna tell you something else, Laurie.

662
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: What you just used the term insult? And thank you

663
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: for the call. Appreciate, thank you, Laurie. You know what

664
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: to put to put him in to say goodbye or something,

665
00:39:55,120 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: whether it's anything, Eli's accepted it. Everybody's moving forward, folks.

666
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: We see Eli every day. Eli is fine. Okay, Eli

667
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: is fine. This happens to everybody. Eli is fine. He's

668
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: doing just very well. He's in his new role. That's

669
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: the way it is. Let's uh stick in New Jersey

670
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: now and uh go to Andrew. Hello, Andrew, how are

671
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: you doing today? Hey? How are you doing? How the wedding?

672
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 1: How is the wedding? On Sunday of Frank eat by Burrows.

673
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: I listened to your your reports on all different stations

674
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: them the wedding was fine. That wasn't Sunday. It was Saturday,

675
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: but Sunday. I was too busy at the Giants game.

676
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: If it was Sunday, I was gonna miss the wedding

677
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: because I would have been at the Giants gading friend

678
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: you are, but go ahead, and yeah, I love hearing

679
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: this even they won. And then I heard a Jewish holiday,

680
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna hear Rust's reform Tuesday night that

681
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: I am with the Giants and with your report. Okay,

682
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: go ahead, what do you got today? Are so pivotal?

683
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: And do you think that they'll have certain plays like

684
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: Wildcat or you know, different running games and different blitzchemes

685
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: that they'll not show in this game, but they'll say

686
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: for New England, I know the next game is the

687
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: most important, but do you think New England Andrew? Andrew? Uh,

688
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard, or maybe you just

689
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: tuned in, as Pat Shermer always says, well, he was

690
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: asked last week you know you or maybe maybe it

691
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: was after the game, maybe maybe it was after or

692
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 1: maybe it was Monday, uh yesterday, or maybe was after

693
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: the game Sunday. I asked about you know, you've got

694
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: two tough games coming up. And the first thing that

695
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: he said, and thank you for the call, Andrew. The

696
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: first thing that Pat Shermis said was not thinking about

697
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: was staying in the moment. The moment is we gotta

698
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 1: about the business at hand, that is the Minnesota Vikings.

699
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 1: You you're not gonna worry about saving something something in

700
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: New England. You've got to take care of business against

701
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings. Here's what I will say. If you

702
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: want to play mock offensive coordinator. Okay, and I'm not

703
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting the Giants are doing this, but if

704
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: you for your own edification, I want to decide, like,

705
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: is there something that they could use to be a

706
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: little trickery. Um, they've used Sterling Shepard so far on

707
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: three rushes on jet sweeps, okay, on those on those

708
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: wide receiver end around looking very well too well, because

709
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: he's got quick yeah, okay, Uh, Sterling is is very

710
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,919
Speaker 1: adept at that play because he cuts well, he accelerates well,

711
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: he's shifting, he's he's a little bit more on the

712
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 1: smaller side, so he can kind of get lost behind

713
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: the line as he's taking the ball back there in

714
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: the backfield. He's a good candidate to do that kind

715
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: of play. And I like that they've used it. I

716
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: could see them maybe pulling that out and on a

717
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: couple of occasions against a Patriots defense or against the

718
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: Vikings defense, but if you're asking for for Goldman to

719
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: run a wildcat, I'm I'm not on board with that.

720
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 1: I don't see that being of much benefit. I but again,

721
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 1: they're not look at trust me, Andrew and everybody else

722
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 1: out there. Don't be looking ahead two that Thursday night. Okay,

723
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: don't be with the Vikings game. They have a very

724
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 1: good defense. I appreciate the question because it also applies

725
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: to Minnesota that's got a very stout defense. Yeah, I mean,

726
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: would you want to get creative against them? Maybe? Yeah? No,

727
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: that's my point. If they're gonna get creative, they're gonna

728
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: get creative against Minnesota and then worry about New England

729
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: when you play in New England. But I'm not using

730
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: the wildcat. No, no, no, that's not here. Here's the thing,

731
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. The only way they used the wildcat is

732
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: if they sign you up at the last minute and

733
00:43:54,280 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: I'm not running. Daniel Jones has enough mobility with his

734
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: own legs that they don't need to use a wildcat

735
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: where a running back would take the snap and then

736
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 1: take off with it. I think Daniels already shown that

737
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: you know he's he's adept enough at running with the

738
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: ball if they decide they wanted to run a quarterback

739
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: draw for example, like John Elway would often use when

740
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: he was with the Broncos. How about the sliding technique

741
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: of un and then Daniel is you can tell he's

742
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: a good runner and he's a comfortable runner. I I

743
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: just think, um, you want I think the way the

744
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: play was set up where he you know, he was

745
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: looking to dive ahead. You just you gotta get it down.

746
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: You gotta get the slide down. You don't want the ross.

747
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: It's no different than the baseball ahead. You're right, You're

748
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: right right. How many times you see guys going to

749
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: first base or second base, even third base at home

750
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: plate head first, fingers first. That's the dumbest thing in

751
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: the world. For some reason, they say it's more effective.

752
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: And you see these guys running now and case well,

753
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: to digress for a second with oven mits on, why

754
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: did you just go feet first? Sliding? Make it easy? Really,

755
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: Oven Mits They look like they're going on the only

756
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: thing they're missing is the sledness of snow. They're going

757
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: to skiing with a little scarff on incredible. I don't

758
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: understand that. I but Daniel, Um, he can run and

759
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: he's very mobile. Let's listen, I've seen quite a few

760
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 1: plays the last two weeks that he averted trouble by

761
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: his footwork. I mean, you hear the line all the time.

762
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: Being able to extend the plays, he's able to expect

763
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: extend the plays with his legs. It just makes it

764
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: gives everybody a better situation. It gives you receive as

765
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: a chance to run around. The whole situation is better. Whorls.

766
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: We got a multiple choice question somebody just sent up

767
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: to Giants Chats, just the Giants fan podcast. I don't

768
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: know these folks, maybe they're pretty new to the whole

769
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: electronic world. He wants to know, given the first four weeks,

770
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: what are the giants biggest roster needs moving forward? And

771
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 1: I guess we can debate this for just a second.

772
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: He says, tackle offensive tackle, wide receiver, inside linebacker, or

773
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: defensive back, wide receiver. Hold the tackle, tackle, wide receiver,

774
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:29,240
Speaker 1: inside linebacker or defensive back. I would think it's inside lineback.

775
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 1: It's certainly not wide receiver. Now they've got some depth

776
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: now being that Slaton's healthy and Tate has come off

777
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: of a suspension, So I think wide receiver they're good, alright,

778
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: so we agree on that one. That would be the

779
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 1: last one, right, Okay, that would be fourth. I think

780
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: the third biggest need might be the tackle spot, because

781
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: behind Ramer's at right tackle and Solder at left tackle,

782
00:46:55,320 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: it's very thin. Would you agree with me there? Yeah? Okay,

783
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: all right, So that would be a need, but not

784
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: the most desperate need. Uh, clearly the defensive back spot.

785
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 1: They've got a lot of guys. Look, Julian Love and

786
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: Corey Valentine are having trouble cracking the lineup. Even during

787
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: the struggles earlier this year. Uh, they still had capable bodies, young, inexperienced,

788
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: but talented bodies on the bench. So I don't think

789
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: I would put dB high on the lesson, No, I

790
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: I think D v dB is a situation. They just

791
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: got to get experience there. As Paul just said, they're young.

792
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: If they lack anything, it's the experience. And that's Listen,

793
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: you've seen DeAndre Baker get better at the last couple

794
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: of weeks because of the experience of the first two games.

795
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: Right now, now, DeAndre Baker comes with a bit of

796
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: a good edge to him. He does, he's he's got

797
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: an out. He doesn't challenges people, and any challenges himself

798
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: to he does, he is to go into a corner

799
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: and woe's me. You know, I got beaten this and that,

800
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: and you know, speaking of your DBS. Somebody called up

801
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: and asking then apparently he hung up. Who do you

802
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: think is gonna be covering Diggs? And who's gonna be

803
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: on feeling? If it were me, I would probably put

804
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: Jack Rabbit on Diggs, and then I would let the

805
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,280
Speaker 1: other side and use a combination of coverages on Feeling,

806
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: whether it's a little bit of a bracket, whether sometimes

807
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: it's a man to man with Baker press coverage. I

808
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: would hope maybe sometimes even use his own on him. Um,

809
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: but I would put Jack Rabbit on Diggs. I believe

810
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: after the game he had last week, that you know,

811
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: he's kind of got himself back on in rhythm. I

812
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: think that I think I'm gonna I'm a believer in

813
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: Jack Rabbit. I don't think he's on the down yet, Russ.

814
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: I think he just had a slump earlier in the year,

815
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: had a very difficult game against the Buccaneers when Mike Evans,

816
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: you know, hit him three touchdowns. But I think Jack

817
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: Rabbit still has a lot of game left in him.

818
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 1: I hope you're right. In fairness. Uh, you know, he

819
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 1: was left on an island against the very faundable foe

820
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 1: in Mike Evans. Uh. And he wasn't you know again,

821
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 1: he was left alone out there. But again that's what

822
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,240
Speaker 1: a pro does, has a comeback game, and he certainly

823
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: Jack Rabbit certainly did have a comeback game against the

824
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: uh Washington Red. He promised us that were you in

825
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: the locker room Friday, Yes, will you remember him talking?

826
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: I just on the back end because I was talking

827
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: to somebody else, he said. At the very end of

828
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: his little media briefing at his locker, somebody asked, Jack Rabbit,

829
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: you know you've been like a big brother to all

830
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: these young inexperienced defensive backs since they got here over

831
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 1: the summer. And is it important not only for you

832
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: to bounce back against Washington for yourself, but is it

833
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: important to show those guys and ample of how a

834
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: veteran handles a bad game. And he said absolutely, he said,

835
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 1: you're done straight. I gotta show those guys that I'm

836
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: still Jack Rabbit and that and that that's how you respond.

837
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,479
Speaker 1: You go out there after having a really bad game,

838
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 1: you go out there and play your best football. He

839
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,959
Speaker 1: took it as a challenge and a a mentoring opportunity,

840
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 1: and I think he succeeded. Well, no one's no. I

841
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: don't think anybody's disputing that. But I like it though.

842
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: I liked his approach, but he understood that there was

843
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: value in that. Jack Rabbit is if you will. That's

844
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,439
Speaker 1: why he's Jack Rabbit. And he's not a scaredy cat.

845
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: Yeah really really he's not. I mean, you know, he's got,

846
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: if you will, the courage to play football, to play

847
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: professional football, you know, in the NFL. I mean he's

848
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,959
Speaker 1: a he's a tough guy. You know. It's it's uh,

849
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Speaker 1: he doesn't he's not of the faith at heart. I mean,

850
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: he knows, uh, what the deal is. He knows what

851
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: being a pro is. He knows he's gonna get beat

852
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: sometimes and he's gonna wins sometimes. That's the way it is.

853
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he had he had. As Paul says, it

854
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: was a rough game. It was a rough game. On

855
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Speaker 1: top of which, you know, what'sn't I mean, Jack Rabbit

856
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 1: is not the biggest guy and Evans is a pretty

857
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,919
Speaker 1: big guy. So the whole, the whole combination. Uh did

858
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Speaker 1: not look very well again. Two O one four five

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Speaker 1: one three is the number if you want to get

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Speaker 1: uh New York and check in with Neil. Hello, O'Neil,

869
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: you're on with Russ and PAULI? Hey, how you doing good?

870
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: How you doing well? I'm doing pretty good? You know,

871
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: I optimistic, I'm hopeful. Uh, I'm just the one negative.

872
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: Is I really think Ryan Connolly was the real deal

873
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: that we plucked Jim from somewhere, and I'm concerned. Is

874
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 1: it coincidental that the defense started playing a bit better?

875
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: Uh the first game? You know, he replaced Ogal Tree.

876
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 1: I'm not Uh, I'm a big Georgia fan and Ogil

877
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: she went to Georgia, and I'm a little bit not

878
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: thrilled with how he's played since he's been here. Georgia

879
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: DeAndre Baker, I mean, is nobody throwing at him? Or

880
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: is he really stepped it up. I'll take your answer

881
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: off there. Thanks, okay, thank you, Neil uh DeAndre. Well,

882
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: I don't know it's a case of not throwing at him.

883
00:52:55,960 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: He's just he's he's improved. I thought that Baker over

884
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: the last I don't know, I guess the last five

885
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: or six quarters has been playing more confident well, And

886
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: to me, I noticed him becoming more physical. I noticed

887
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: certainly it started last week against Tampa, where he was

888
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: coming up and playing the run better. And that was

889
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,959
Speaker 1: to me, that was the first sign in Okay, now

890
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: maybe this guy is starting to get it. He's starting

891
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,439
Speaker 1: to figure it out, and he's starting to feel better

892
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: about his place in the defense. And so when I

893
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: saw that, I said, all right, well that's step number one.

894
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: Let's keep seeing these little signs about his improvement and

895
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 1: his maturity as a player. And I quite honestly thought

896
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: that the kind of game he played last week, I'd

897
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Speaker 1: sign up for that the rest of the year. Sure,

898
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 1: you want him to get better always. You want guys

899
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: to get better. But he played well. But also at

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Speaker 1: the same point, uh, Neil, you're talking about if a

901
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,280
Speaker 1: guy is not being thrown at, maybe he's not being

902
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: thrown at because he's doing a good job and he's

903
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 1: covering his man. So if you would ask me, yeah,

904
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Speaker 1: that's the improvement that DeAndre has made. And I'm not

905
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: even gonna say for the last two games. I'm gonna

906
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: say for the last five quarters or last six quarters,

907
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: the half, the second half against Tampa and this past game,

908
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: for the last game and a half, he's improved. Uh

909
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 1: As far as Connolly, look, he's been making plays without question.

910
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: You know he ogul Tree went down and he was

911
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: making place he can't make plays. Now he's out for

912
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. So it is what it is.

913
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I will take the and I've always I've

914
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: always taken this attitude. It's what to a man in

915
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: the locker room. They all say that, and Wayne Gallman

916
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: exemplified that this past week. If speaking to him in

917
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,959
Speaker 1: the locker room, the pro's attitude has to be next

918
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: man up. We can't worry about the guy that's hurt.

919
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: We love the guy that's hurt. They can't do nothing

920
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: about it, Goldman. I mean, quant is his buddy. They

921
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: locked near each other. If it's not right next to

922
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Speaker 1: one another, their their friends. You never want to see

923
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Speaker 1: your teammate go down. But I can tell you this,

924
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: Wayne took that he you walked up to him in

925
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: the locker room fist bumping like, hey man, my time.

926
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Speaker 1: It's an opportunity. I gotta make the most of it

927
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: for the team and for myself. That's the attitude that's

928
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: everybody's gotta take. When you get hurt, that you know

929
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: there's no well, always me because nobody cares. Nobody's feeling

930
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: sorry for you. Not certainly not in the game of football.

931
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: Nobody is feeling sorry for you. The ople Tree question

932
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: is interesting because I think everyone would like to see

933
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Speaker 1: him make more impact plays. Now. He had five interceptions

934
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 1: last year, which was a Giant's record for a linebacker.

935
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Speaker 1: But yet I think people would like to see him

936
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Speaker 1: get more tackles behind the line, or more tackles for

937
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,760
Speaker 1: no game stuffs is what they call them. Either losses

938
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: or no gains on running plays, those are called stuffs.

939
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: I do think that you'd like to see him get

940
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: a lot more stuffs. I think, Okay, that's fair. But

941
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Speaker 1: but the Giants coaches will tell us, and we have

942
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: to believe them because we're not in the huddle. They

943
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 1: will tell us that ogle Tree does a masterful job

944
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Speaker 1: of lining guys up, that he really is the quarterback

945
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Speaker 1: of that huddle. He controls things very well, and he

946
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 1: does understand the defense better than anybody else and does

947
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: get guys in the right position. So there's a lot

948
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 1: of hidden value there. Much like we always talked about Eli,

949
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: there's a lot of hidden value that doesn't show up

950
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Speaker 1: on the stat sheet in terms of what ogle Tree does. Now,

951
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: having said that again, you'd like to have more stuffs

952
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: out of him in terms of production. But I will

953
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: also add one more thing. The question is almost mute

954
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: because he's out with a hamstring, and to this point

955
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Speaker 1: he has not even been running on the side with

956
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 1: the trainers at practice. He's been on the bicycle, but

957
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: he has not been even running them a side with

958
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 1: those guys. And until he starts to run on the

959
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: side with the trainers, that means he's not even close, right,

960
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: He's not even close to being cleared for a game. Now,

961
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,760
Speaker 1: the Giants are not practicing today. They will practice again

962
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: tomorrow we will see if he does any jogging or

963
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: any running with the trainers tomorrow, that would be the

964
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: next step into him getting closer to playing. Until that happens,

965
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: or until Tay Davis, who by the way, has been

966
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: out with the trainers on the side in the sunshine

967
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: and doing the bike now he's in concussion protocol. It's

968
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: a good sign for him that is at least out there,

969
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: because first step of concussion protocol means usually you're inside

970
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 1: and you're not you're not getting involved in sunlight and

971
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: they don't even want you outside. So the fact that

972
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: he has been out there means he is somewhat along.

973
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: But again until we see him running full sprints and

974
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: even maybe getting a yellow jersey on a practice that does,

975
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 1: he's not close. So the Giants really need to deal

976
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: with the fact that they may have Mayo and Stoopar.

977
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: Is there two starting inside linebackers against the Vikings, and

978
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: with Dalvin Cook running the ball, that is one heck

979
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: of a challenge, challenge or whatever you want to call it,

980
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: it is what it is. Again, no one's feeling sorry

981
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: for the Giants, so that no sense for the Giants

982
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 1: to start feeling sorry for themselves. We got one question, uh,

983
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: and then we'll wrap it up quickly. Here somebody's called

984
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,919
Speaker 1: and asked, uh, with Tate now in the lineup and

985
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones passing, do we have one of the more

986
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: deadly passing attacks? Now? I don't like that phrase dj passing.

987
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: He's still alive. Yes, please, no, but please you know, Uh,

988
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: that remains to be seen. Okay, that remains to be seen.

989
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: Is it a very potent attack? I'll use that for

990
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: word again, as long as everybody stays healthy with with

991
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: Tate in there, and and the way a woman's playing,

992
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: and Shep and Whatton and you know young Slayton, and

993
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: well Fowler's gone, you know, Laddimer is still there. It's

994
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: a very formidable group. Let's just say that it's a

995
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: very formidable group. And what it's going to make that

996
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 1: group even more form formiatave Bowl is when se Kwan

997
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: Barkley comes back, you know. And then you're talking about

998
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: an offense that is kind of scary. I want to

999
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: give you a number of us. The Giants offense is

1000
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: converting third nouns at right now, you want to be

1001
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: at least forty two. Okay, Okay, So there's substandard right now,

1002
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:40,479
Speaker 1: third down conversions. Guess what Golden tates specialty is third

1003
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 1: down conversion being okay, that's where he can make the

1004
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: most impact on this team. Well that's listen. And remember

1005
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: though that that percentage of thirty nine that includes the

1006
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 1: first two games, yes, first two and which is a

1007
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: marked difference. So things obtained again greatly in the last

1008
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: week and the alf But anyway, nothing changes here. We're

1009
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: gonna be back again tomorrow, but right now we're gonna

1010
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: sign things off again. I want to thank all of

1011
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: you for being part of Big Blue, Big Blue Kickoff

1012
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 1: Live here because without you, we'd have nobody to be

1013
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Speaker 1: talking to. So for myself and Paul de Tino and

1014
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: our dear man at the controls, Pierson Butler, want to

1015
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 1: thank you all for being here and again I will

1016
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Speaker 1: be back to see you tomorrow