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Joined today, Joined this morning 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:43.720 by Brent Reeves, Tony Peters, and Giannis pu tell Us 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:44.680 who's playing with his phone. 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:47.000 Christ hearing buck picks over here. 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:48.640 He's looking at that big buck picks. Give us a 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:51.680 quick report, Yannis. Jannis is monitoring. This is not what 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:54.880 we're here to talk about, but Jannis is monitoring his 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:57.120 Wisconsin family. 0:00:57.200 --> 0:01:04.120 Little place that's right, got twenty cameras set out and uh, 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:05.679 it's interesting, man. 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:06.279 These bucks. 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:08.800 It's like they literally crawl into a hole for a while, 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:10.480 and then all of a sudden, there'll be a day 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:13.479 or two period and all three or four of the 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:17.480 I'm calling mature bucks there pop out, show themselves and 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:19.400 then crawl into a hole again, and I won't see 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:21.880 them for two weeks. But yeah, I've got three to 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:25.200 four that I'm very excited about. They're not giants, I 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:28.040 think in the white tail world. But if any one 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:30.760 of them walks underneath my stand in November, then I'll 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:32.360 be trying to take a shot. 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:36.600 Twenty cameras. 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:41.119 Yeah, they're all the They're all the molt Tree Edge. 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:44.640 I believe that's the name of the model, right. All cellular. 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:47.920 It's great when you live in Montana and you hunt 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:49.000 a spot in Wisconsin. 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:50.320 That's fun. 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:51.280 Oh, the cellular. 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:55.080 Yeah, I'm addicted by far way more to that than 0:01:55.120 --> 0:02:00.400 any other little thing on my telephone, Instagram. 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:07.960 More than it's healthier too, is it man harder than 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:10.480 everything else? I'm not hacking on Instagram sayings healthier than 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:13.320 anything else on your phone because like, at least it's 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:16.079 like a sort of interaction with some kind of unknown 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:19.840 thing that's not man made. I just hung two and 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:24.000 then I didn't bring my little security boxes. And one 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:26.720 is so funny because like I get a picture of 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:30.760 a Martin I hung just like right up my at 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:35.239 our shack in Alaska. Uh, and I'm hanging it and 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:38.880 I'm talking to my buddy Jeremy Romero, and he's like, man, 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:40.560 those bears, you know, and I've had it happen before. 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:42.320 It they just tear him up. But it's funny. So 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:46.600 I hang it up, like right at Danny's cabin and 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:52.440 get a Martin and then get a bear coming at 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:56.520 the camera. In the next picture, the camera's pointing up 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:58.880 into the trees, and the next picture, the camera is 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:02.079 pointing straight down to the slow bushes and that's where 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:05.760 it sits. Now, had you just had you just hung 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:08.400 that camera, No, it was like within twenty four hours. 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:12.679 I have a theory about bears and a trail. There's 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:14.880 like a trail we use and they use, and you're 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:16.160 just like, the hell's that? 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:18.760 But I mean I hang a lot of cameras in 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:22.120 bear country, and it's like, if they don't knock that 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:25.519 sucker down within like seventy two hours, to leave it alone. 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:27.960 But if it's fresh and it's so you always drop 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:29.880 them off, then you leave. Then you know it used 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:32.120 to be you'd come back six weeks later and you're like, oh, 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:34.120 you know, like I have no pictures because my camera's 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:37.360 laying on the ground. But it seems like that fresh 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:40.360 hand scent, like fresh messing with it is really like 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:42.280 the trigger that gets them to just chew them up 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:43.000 and bat them around. 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:44.440 I think that's what he's queuing in on. 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:47.400 I don't know, but I mean, it's so consistent for 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:50.200 me where if a bear's gonna mess with a camera, 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:52.880 it's right away every time. 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:54.800 But if i'd have hung a hatchet in that tree, 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:57.440 I don't think you'd a bit that hatchet. 0:03:57.560 --> 0:03:59.880 I've always heard it was the petroleum in the place, 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:02.640 stick and stuff that attracted them to it. 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:05.240 I don't know, man, I just know that it has 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:07.640 been so consistent for me. If I get one up 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:09.280 and they leave it alone and a bear doesn't walk 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:11.280 by and it's been out for a week or two, 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:13.839 that camera's not going to get knocked down. But when 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:16.320 I put them up that first bear that walked, like 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:18.440 you said, I have so many pictures of like the 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:20.920 inside of a bear's mouth or those ears like right 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:24.640 up to it, and they always knock it sideways or 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:25.919 down or tear it off. 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:28.320 And move on. But if it's been there a little while. 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:30.680 And I used to even when I used to bear hunt, 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:32.680 I would try to be really meticulous about sant like 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:34.919 wear gloves because you know, if you mess with bait, 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:38.080 you touch a camera. Yeah, it's over a lot of times. 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:41.960 And even then doing everything right. It was like if 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:44.520 they came in right away and they messed with it, 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:46.200 that that was the window when they were going to 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:46.680 mess with it. 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:51.720 I ended on I got comment about that. I ended 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:55.800 on Seth Seth Morris and then Hansi Dirschmeyers. Here have 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:57.120 you been on the podcast. 0:04:56.680 --> 0:05:01.120 For Yeah, like five years ago you've done Yeah, five 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:01.520 years ago? 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:03.320 What did you talk about five years ago? 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:07.360 It was like Ramsey Russell and yeah, we're talking about 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:08.200 duck hunting. 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:09.880 For a little bit, and you liked to hunt ducks. 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:14.240 Yeah, yeah, Oh he was the guy boys call them. Yeah, yeah, right. 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:18.120 Hanse's on our Hanse's on our production team and as 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:20.800 an editor at his video content for us. We're gonna 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:22.760 talk a bunch about video content a minute. I got 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:24.960 to return to something that I was shocked about. You 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:28.000 guys might know about this North Carolina. I was just 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:34.919 down in North Carolina. You can't use processed foods on 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:39.799 bear baits. They're having too much tooth decay on bears. 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:42.480 You're allowed to bate bears way outside of the season 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:44.720 because they have a long dog running season, and you're 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:53.560 allowed to bate bears to lure into trained dogs. And 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:56.279 I was talking to a game war and he's showing 0:05:56.279 --> 0:06:03.080 me pictures of tooth decay, a bad tooth decay on bears, 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:07.960 skulls coming in, huge cavities in their teeth from all 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:15.120 of the like sugar products, really candy donuts, jolly rancher, syrup, 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:20.359 whatever the hell that on their stuff. And he said, 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:23.839 in the spring, I spend most of my time not 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:27.080 working illegal bait stations. He spends most of his time 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:32.200 working illegal bait. Wow, So what are they supposed to use? 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:39.040 Natural foods? Corn? No processed foods. It's like it's like 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:44.039 parents in America right now are like fighting processed foods 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:47.720 in their children's diet. And apparently they've brought that fight 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:54.760 to the bears of North Carolina, of bears on processed 0:06:54.760 --> 0:07:00.400 food and they've got bears like it's to be in 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:04.200 an eastern deciduous forest where everything's real thick and there's 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:07.919 just bears around. Oh, there's a bear, there's barnet guy's field, 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:11.680 there's bear walk across the road, big ones. Yeah, I 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:13.760 didn't know that that even was a thing. I mean, 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:14.920 I knew there was a lot of bears, but I 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:16.840 know there's so many bears that it's just like there's one, 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:18.760 there's one, there's one, there's a bear track. 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:21.920 Well it's become a thing. It wasn't always like that. 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:24.760 And people got them all hopped up on donuts. 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:27.000 I wonder what a bear and a lot of donut 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:29.480 and jolly ranchesterrup tastes like. 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:32.360 Yeah, now. 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:43.800 Alaskan blueberry bears, right, I just wonder, yeah, up. 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:46.400 His fat, his fast, the color a green apple, jolly 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:50.840 rancher like a star bears listen, and I bring this up. 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:53.360 I'm not I have not heavily investigated this. I I 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:57.560 I interacted with one individual on this subject. I'm conveying 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:01.160 you to you information delivered to me in one conversation 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:06.080 with one individual who was a wildlife professional. But I 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:09.640 didn't go talk to like there's probably someone out there 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:13.080 who's like ready to rip like the speaker out of 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:15.760 his car, because he's like, that's not true, and if 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:21.840 that's you, how that's not true. But he was showing 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:25.760 me multiple bears with like cavities that you could see 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:30.040 on a cell phone photo. Who are who are getting 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:34.120 a long term a lot of their diet from processed food, 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:37.559 so they are they allowed the bait for a particularly 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:39.679 long time because like in Arkansas, it's because they have 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:43.520 the dog training. Okay, so they have a big training season. 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:45.800 You're allowed to bait for dog training. So there's there 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:48.240 if they're I don't I don't remember if there's no 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:51.200 on off switch, or if it's just a very a 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.839 very generous period of time that you're allowed to do it. 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:59.600 But he works illegal bait. 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.240 It looks to me like if you had that many bears, 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:05.200 you wouldn't have to get them centralized trained the dogs 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:09.920 freaking man, did you do that on like property when 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:10.360 you're training? 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:14.000 Oh, like you can still train dogs off the bait. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:17.520 I can't comment on it, you know what that might be. 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:20.280 So in Wisconsin where they run bears where we or 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:23.199 they run dogs on bears where we hunt, they will 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:25.800 start at a bait site because they can bait the 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:27.880 bears in and they can check a camera and be like, 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:30.400 there was a big boar here doing it right. 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:32.160 Yeah. Yeah, So that's why they're doing that. 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:34.160 But so they're even in the off season when you 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:35.600 would think they wouldn't need to that. You could just 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:38.080 go find a bear track to run them. They're probably 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.959 running through the real like dress rehearsal for the hunt, 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:41.880 you know. 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:48.599 Mm hmm. Then you give them a little bears toothbrushes flooridem, 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:53.280 that'd be like the That's probably like what their proposal 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:55.520 would be, like, Okay, how about we just add fluoride? 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:57.880 Yeah, to the swamps pour Out of four, out of 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:03.040 five bear hunters approved, there's always that one. 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:07.560 Okay, Hans, are you ready? Yeah? Okay, Hansei's here because 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:10.520 he's working on Hans's working on six episodes for us 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:13.840 that are called me Eater rough Cuts, six hunting Trips, 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:16.200 yep six hunts. Some of the people on some of 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:20.360 these hunts. Let me think how many of these Clay's 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:25.800 not here, Tony's here, Seth's here, Yanni's here. Those guys 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:32.040 aren't and Seth's here. You're working on a project about 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:35.760 hunting Alaska moose Ye with me and Clay Nukeom. You're 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:38.480 working on a project about hunting Oklahoma white Tails of 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:42.240 me and Tony. You're working on a project about trapping 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.959 in Montana me and Seth. You're working on a project 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:48.040 about hunting COO's Dear in Mexico, Me and Yanni. You're 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:51.839 working on a project about hunting Mewle's in Montana with 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:54.160 me and Garrett, my friend Ronnie Collins, the spear fisherman. 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:57.760 And then you're working on Texas whitetail me and Seth. 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:01.600 Yeah, and Dave's with DSD. 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:04.360 On Dave Smith. Yeah. Yeah, Okay, So tell me the challenges. 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:09.640 Tell me the challenges of making something about trapping. Okay, 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:11.720 where do we are all the action? As my wife 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:13.720 points out, she doesn't like it because all the action 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:16.560 happens out of sight. Yeah, it's like you're not even there. 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:18.199 It's true. 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:20.760 She thinks it's cheating because you're not there. 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:25.680 No, it's it's true. I'm like it creates a challenge 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:27.480 in that it's like not all in one day, right, 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:30.720 there's no like there's no like through line arc natural 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:33.800 progression of like we climbed the mountain and then we 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:36.000 shot a ball and then we packed it down. It's 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:38.200 it's like, well, no, we we had to set the 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:40.360 traps first, and then we had to like give the 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:43.080 traps chance to work. And so you come you're coming 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:44.800 back days later and you're going to a whole bunch 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:48.800 of different locations, right, and and there's like there's there's 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:51.560 multiple species involved here too, right, So I mean you've 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:56.120 got an entirely different selection of information for each trap 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:59.800 different amounts of time. And now it creates kind of 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:03.600 a possibility I think from a from a story perspective 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:07.440 on like going to different places and and and learning 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:11.760 new things and uh sign reading. And it's gonna be 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:15.559 a heavily graphic treated episode because of that. So it's 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:17.880 gonna be something that we've we've not done before in 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:18.400 that regard. 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:22.080 No, you know, another interesting thing about trying to film 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:25.120 something about trapping, or in your position edit something about 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:29.800 trapping is uh, not only is a lot the action 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:33.000 occurring when you're not there in this case, the actions 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:38.640 occurring underneath the ice, yeah, or like sort of underground, 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:42.280 and when you make the set, it's obscured by dirt. Yeah, 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:44.400 so there's nothing clear about anything. 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:49.160 No, No, that's where that's like, that's where the graphics 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:49.440 come in. 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:51.840 You wouldn't know it, but that's a set. Yeah, it 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:54.920 just looks like dirt. Yeah. And then now we're gonna leave, 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:57.640 yeah and see what happens, you. 0:12:57.640 --> 0:12:59.680 Know, there's there's a section in here where there, you know, 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:03.680 Seth and and Steve are talking about uh, bubble lines 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:06.920 in the ice, and it's like it's all this intricate detail, 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:09.120 but we can't see any of it. It's like, well, 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:11.880 in theory that's under there, like they're they're there. 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:12.360 You know. 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:15.480 And and I won't say whether or not. I guess 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:19.040 you guys are vindicated on your information, but yeah, it's. 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:21.800 In that case we were vindicating. Yeah, I want to 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:27.080 tell you in NAK that's one of those things where, uh, 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:31.840 the the bubbles don't lie. Yeah, that amount of bubbles 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:35.280 don't lie. Most things that are made about trapping, and 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:37.480 I consume like a good deal of this stuff. Most 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:40.920 things that are made about trap and are instructional. Yeah, right, 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:48.199 it's an instructional intensive Uh, it's an instructional intensive genre. Yeah, 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:50.800 and you're trying to make something that's sort of uh 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:53.400 less instructional, sort of like entertainment. 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:54.240 Yeah. 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:54.640 Yeah. 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:59.160 And and in our case, like we have you and Seth, 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:02.280 we have a long history of trapping, and so over 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:05.600 time we're we're showing some inserts of like photographs of 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:08.760 of you, like kind of set allah a Wes Anderson 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:14.240 kind of feel stylized. Yeah, and it I mean, so 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:16.800 so there's some stylized elements in here that just that 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:19.840 just give just a new and different treatment to this. 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:22.120 And and yeah, it'll still be instructional, I think, as 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:27.280 it should be. I mean, it's it's uh, there's a 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:28.160 lot to learn about it. 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:30.400 Do you feel that that's the first one of these 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:31.040 that we'll release? 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:35.760 Oh boy, We're we're kind of in like different stages 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:36.680 of production right now. 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:37.200 So like. 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:42.280 Alaska Moose with with Clay is like very I think, 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:45.520 very far along, and then Oklahoma White Tail with Tony 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:48.960 is pretty far along too. And and as far as 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:51.480 like as far as which one's gonna come out first, 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:53.800 I I just don't. I just don't know. I think 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:56.800 I think probably the the one that we're we're still 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:59.200 in the most production on is that the Texas Bucks 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:00.960 with with You and Seth. 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:02.200 I mean, that's got the farthest to go. 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:05.480 Yeah, yeah, it's farthest to go really, but but we 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:05.960 have we. 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:09.200 Have some really we like delivered gold I know you did. Yeah, 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:09.840 how much? 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:13.720 How many how many buck attacks on the decoys did 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:14.000 we see? 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.840 Well, it's also it's also called Steven Seth Rattle in 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:20.920 twenty two bucks. Yeah, it's I mean, that's that's the 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:22.040 alter ego of the episode. 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:23.000 They're Likeruly. 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:27.600 It's really cool footage. It's amazing footage. Yeah, yeah, no, 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:28.320 it's it is. 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:32.360 It is a well, let's no, but I don't want 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:34.600 to move into that one yet, okay, copy. I want 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:39.120 to move into working on working on from an editor's perspective. 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:40.920 And this is the listening because I asked you something 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:45.120 very specific. Yeah, so you're cutting Oklahoma White Tail Hunt 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:47.640 with me and Tony Peterson. I want you to just 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:50.560 this is going to be awkward, Okay. I want you 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:52.760 to look Tony Peterson in the eye and tell him 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:55.800 about what it's like to interact with his hosting as 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:56.320 an editor. 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:01.960 Tony's already like he's already like on edge, because when 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:05.240 we were filming this, he was like Hans Hen He's 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:07.640 got like he's got like really intense eyes. I keep 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:12.680 looking at him in the camera and uh so, so okay, 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:14.640 so how is it. How is it to interact with 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:17.560 Tony as a host as an editor, as an editor? 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:18.920 Are you like, God, this guy brings it? 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:28.800 Uh No, it's it's Uh, okay, where where do I 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:29.320 start with this? 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:31.840 Where do I tell you what it's like? I've told 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:33.280 I've told his story a lot of times. It's like 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:35.360 with Tony, Tony is a very intense person hunt with 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:42.000 do you really in a good way? He there to 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:46.440 not get nothing? Yeah, well that's true. Yeah, I don't 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:48.360 like on film tags. No. 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:52.520 I think on that particular episode, like we've got it's 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:54.320 kind of a cool piece because we have we have 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:57.080 two different stories, which is not the only place that 0:16:57.080 --> 0:17:00.200 that's happening in rough cuts, but we have we have 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:03.040 you guys on the hunt itself, which is a cool story. 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:05.600 There's like some some drama moments and and things like 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:09.080 that doesn't like all go to plan, which always makes 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:12.240 for great TV. But on top of that, we're coming 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:17.240 back to Tony like in a gym environment, talking about 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:20.600 the logistics and the tactics of the hunt. So we 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:23.600 get like two different slices of Tony a little bit. 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:27.080 In the gym environment. Did you debate between going with 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:30.680 the like suit like a retired athlete dude, or did 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:32.680 you do you want to know how much I want 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:35.440 to go like an old retired quarterback? Do I want 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:36.280 to go like actively. 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:39.399 I got like a sweater vest, like an old checked 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:40.720 sweater vest kind of thing. 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:43.119 But so you want to know how much information I 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:46.399 got before filming that, Sam Bates sent me an email 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:47.800 and she said, Hey, we need you to come out 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:50.400 to Montana and shoot one scene for your Oklahoma show, 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:54.760 and we need you to look like a pe Coach 0:17:54.880 --> 0:18:01.640 from the nineteen eighties like Taylor, right. And I really 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:05.240 didn't know until right before the shoot kind of what 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:09.040 the idea was behind this. And then when I showed up, 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:11.040 you know, we went out to the YMCA and set up, 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:13.600 and HANSI had a whole idea in his head. 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:14.959 And let me tell you something. 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:19.840 They ran me through the ringer because I had to 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:24.160 do chin ups and talk like talk like I had 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:26.880 to think on my feet and talk while do actively 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:32.719 doing chin ups or like curling dumbbells and doing stuff. 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:35.560 And after that shoot, because like I went into that shoot, 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:36.760 I like, I go to the gym all the time. 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:37.320 I'm fine. 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:40.439 Like after that shoot, I was so sore because you 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:44.879 never did talking well. It was like fifty reps in 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:47.520 a row because they're like, well, we need another take, 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:50.080 and you're like, well, this take is another six chin 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:53.800 ups or you know, like imagine if you were and 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:55.600 it like imagine if we just handed you like a 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:58.440 twenty five pound dumbell. You could curl that, no problem, right, 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:01.400 But if you had to hawk for like forty five 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:04.920 seconds or a minute while curling NonStop like and kind 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:07.640 of exaggerating it, you'd be like, well, I just did 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:11.560 you know fifty three reps in a very short amount 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:14.200 of time. And so HANSI put me through the wringer. 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:16.120 And I think Hillary was loving it too. She said, 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:17.919 let's have him do more stuff like that. 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:21.600 That's great. So it was a it was the I've 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:24.320 never done a shoot like that some of the but 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:26.160 it's got to be good that we got a bunch 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:26.640 of stuff. 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:30.439 Oh yeah, definitely definitely, Like dear. 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:33.240 Do you need I need? So, I mean some of 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:34.800 the some of the good thing. 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:37.920 We killed everyone that walked by us. Yeah, there's the two. 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:40.239 This is the thing and and uh that we used 0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:42.240 to struggle with is the too much of a good 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:42.840 thing problem. 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:45.919 Yeah, that's exactly it. That's exactly it. And that's what 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:48.840 happened with we won't go into it yet, but Texas Bucks. 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:51.000 But but yeah, I mean. 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:54.240 Steve's ready to go into it too many bucks. 0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:54.840 I'm not ready. 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:56.800 I'm on open. Yeah. 0:19:56.960 --> 0:19:58.520 No, I think I think from like a from a 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:01.240 story element absolutely so like too much of a good thing, 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:03.840 and we're just trying to do something that's different. I 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:07.000 think one of the elements of the whole series was that, 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:09.600 you know, we had we had some limitations as far 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:13.560 as like cameras, as far as how many cameras were 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:16.400 on these shoots, and with with not having as many 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:19.320 as like a mediatter episode of the past, we didn't 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:21.480 have some like long lens footage, so we so we 0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:24.760 didn't have those those those same moments captured in great 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:27.560 detail quite to the extent that you know we'd love. 0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:32.440 But it also offered another opportunity to create something different entirely, 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:34.320 and that's and that's where we came up with these 0:20:34.320 --> 0:20:37.040