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Speaker 2: Christ hearing buck picks over here.
Speaker 1: He's looking at that big buck picks. Give us a
Speaker 1: quick report, Yannis. Jannis is monitoring. This is not what
Speaker 1: we're here to talk about, but Jannis is monitoring his
Speaker 1: Wisconsin family.
Speaker 3: Little place that's right, got twenty cameras set out and uh,
Speaker 3: it's interesting, man.
Speaker 2: These bucks.
Speaker 3: It's like they literally crawl into a hole for a while,
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, there'll be a day
Speaker 3: or two period and all three or four of the
Speaker 3: I'm calling mature bucks there pop out, show themselves and
Speaker 3: then crawl into a hole again, and I won't see
Speaker 3: them for two weeks. But yeah, I've got three to
Speaker 3: four that I'm very excited about. They're not giants, I
Speaker 3: think in the white tail world. But if any one
Speaker 3: of them walks underneath my stand in November, then I'll
Speaker 3: be trying to take a shot.
Speaker 1: Twenty cameras.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're all the They're all the molt Tree Edge.
Speaker 3: I believe that's the name of the model, right. All cellular.
Speaker 3: It's great when you live in Montana and you hunt
Speaker 3: a spot in Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: That's fun.
Speaker 2: Oh, the cellular.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm addicted by far way more to that than
Speaker 3: any other little thing on my telephone, Instagram.
Speaker 1: More than it's healthier too, is it man harder than
Speaker 1: everything else? I'm not hacking on Instagram sayings healthier than
Speaker 1: anything else on your phone because like, at least it's
Speaker 1: like a sort of interaction with some kind of unknown
Speaker 1: thing that's not man made. I just hung two and
Speaker 1: then I didn't bring my little security boxes. And one
Speaker 1: is so funny because like I get a picture of
Speaker 1: a Martin I hung just like right up my at
Speaker 1: our shack in Alaska. Uh, and I'm hanging it and
Speaker 1: I'm talking to my buddy Jeremy Romero, and he's like, man,
Speaker 1: those bears, you know, and I've had it happen before.
Speaker 1: It they just tear him up. But it's funny. So
Speaker 1: I hang it up, like right at Danny's cabin and
Speaker 1: get a Martin and then get a bear coming at
Speaker 1: the camera. In the next picture, the camera's pointing up
Speaker 1: into the trees, and the next picture, the camera is
Speaker 1: pointing straight down to the slow bushes and that's where
Speaker 1: it sits. Now, had you just had you just hung
Speaker 1: that camera, No, it was like within twenty four hours.
Speaker 1: I have a theory about bears and a trail. There's
Speaker 1: like a trail we use and they use, and you're
Speaker 1: just like, the hell's that?
Speaker 4: But I mean I hang a lot of cameras in
Speaker 4: bear country, and it's like, if they don't knock that
Speaker 4: sucker down within like seventy two hours, to leave it alone.
Speaker 4: But if it's fresh and it's so you always drop
Speaker 4: them off, then you leave. Then you know it used
Speaker 4: to be you'd come back six weeks later and you're like, oh,
Speaker 4: you know, like I have no pictures because my camera's
Speaker 4: laying on the ground. But it seems like that fresh
Speaker 4: hand scent, like fresh messing with it is really like
Speaker 4: the trigger that gets them to just chew them up
Speaker 4: and bat them around.
Speaker 1: I think that's what he's queuing in on.
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I mean, it's so consistent for
Speaker 4: me where if a bear's gonna mess with a camera,
Speaker 4: it's right away every time.
Speaker 1: But if i'd have hung a hatchet in that tree,
Speaker 1: I don't think you'd a bit that hatchet.
Speaker 5: I've always heard it was the petroleum in the place,
Speaker 5: stick and stuff that attracted them to it.
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I just know that it has
Speaker 4: been so consistent for me. If I get one up
Speaker 4: and they leave it alone and a bear doesn't walk
Speaker 4: by and it's been out for a week or two,
Speaker 4: that camera's not going to get knocked down. But when
Speaker 4: I put them up that first bear that walked, like
Speaker 4: you said, I have so many pictures of like the
Speaker 4: inside of a bear's mouth or those ears like right
Speaker 4: up to it, and they always knock it sideways or
Speaker 4: down or tear it off.
Speaker 1: And move on. But if it's been there a little while.
Speaker 4: And I used to even when I used to bear hunt,
Speaker 4: I would try to be really meticulous about sant like
Speaker 4: wear gloves because you know, if you mess with bait,
Speaker 4: you touch a camera. Yeah, it's over a lot of times.
Speaker 4: And even then doing everything right. It was like if
Speaker 4: they came in right away and they messed with it,
Speaker 4: that that was the window when they were going to
Speaker 4: mess with it.
Speaker 1: I ended on I got comment about that. I ended
Speaker 1: on Seth Seth Morris and then Hansi Dirschmeyers. Here have
Speaker 1: you been on the podcast.
Speaker 6: For Yeah, like five years ago you've done Yeah, five
Speaker 6: years ago?
Speaker 2: What did you talk about five years ago?
Speaker 6: It was like Ramsey Russell and yeah, we're talking about
Speaker 6: duck hunting.
Speaker 1: For a little bit, and you liked to hunt ducks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Oh he was the guy boys call them. Yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 1: Hanse's on our Hanse's on our production team and as
Speaker 1: an editor at his video content for us. We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk a bunch about video content a minute. I got
Speaker 1: to return to something that I was shocked about. You
Speaker 1: guys might know about this North Carolina. I was just
Speaker 1: down in North Carolina. You can't use processed foods on
Speaker 1: bear baits. They're having too much tooth decay on bears.
Speaker 1: You're allowed to bate bears way outside of the season
Speaker 1: because they have a long dog running season, and you're
Speaker 1: allowed to bate bears to lure into trained dogs. And
Speaker 1: I was talking to a game war and he's showing
Speaker 1: me pictures of tooth decay, a bad tooth decay on bears,
Speaker 1: skulls coming in, huge cavities in their teeth from all
Speaker 1: of the like sugar products, really candy donuts, jolly rancher, syrup,
Speaker 1: whatever the hell that on their stuff. And he said,
Speaker 1: in the spring, I spend most of my time not
Speaker 1: working illegal bait stations. He spends most of his time
Speaker 1: working illegal bait. Wow, So what are they supposed to use?
Speaker 1: Natural foods? Corn? No processed foods. It's like it's like
Speaker 1: parents in America right now are like fighting processed foods
Speaker 1: in their children's diet. And apparently they've brought that fight
Speaker 1: to the bears of North Carolina, of bears on processed
Speaker 1: food and they've got bears like it's to be in
Speaker 1: an eastern deciduous forest where everything's real thick and there's
Speaker 1: just bears around. Oh, there's a bear, there's barnet guy's field,
Speaker 1: there's bear walk across the road, big ones. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: didn't know that that even was a thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: I knew there was a lot of bears, but I
Speaker 1: know there's so many bears that it's just like there's one,
Speaker 1: there's one, there's one, there's a bear track.
Speaker 2: Well it's become a thing. It wasn't always like that.
Speaker 1: And people got them all hopped up on donuts.
Speaker 7: I wonder what a bear and a lot of donut
Speaker 7: and jolly ranchesterrup tastes like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now.
Speaker 7: Alaskan blueberry bears, right, I just wonder, yeah, up.
Speaker 1: His fat, his fast, the color a green apple, jolly
Speaker 1: rancher like a star bears listen, and I bring this up.
Speaker 1: I'm not I have not heavily investigated this. I I
Speaker 1: I interacted with one individual on this subject. I'm conveying
Speaker 1: you to you information delivered to me in one conversation
Speaker 1: with one individual who was a wildlife professional. But I
Speaker 1: didn't go talk to like there's probably someone out there
Speaker 1: who's like ready to rip like the speaker out of
Speaker 1: his car, because he's like, that's not true, and if
Speaker 1: that's you, how that's not true. But he was showing
Speaker 1: me multiple bears with like cavities that you could see
Speaker 1: on a cell phone photo. Who are who are getting
Speaker 1: a long term a lot of their diet from processed food,
Speaker 1: so they are they allowed the bait for a particularly
Speaker 1: long time because like in Arkansas, it's because they have
Speaker 1: the dog training. Okay, so they have a big training season.
Speaker 1: You're allowed to bait for dog training. So there's there
Speaker 1: if they're I don't I don't remember if there's no
Speaker 1: on off switch, or if it's just a very a
Speaker 1: very generous period of time that you're allowed to do it.
Speaker 1: But he works illegal bait.
Speaker 5: It looks to me like if you had that many bears,
Speaker 5: you wouldn't have to get them centralized trained the dogs
Speaker 5: freaking man, did you do that on like property when
Speaker 5: you're training?
Speaker 1: Oh, like you can still train dogs off the bait. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't comment on it, you know what that might be.
Speaker 4: So in Wisconsin where they run bears where we or
Speaker 4: they run dogs on bears where we hunt, they will
Speaker 4: start at a bait site because they can bait the
Speaker 4: bears in and they can check a camera and be like,
Speaker 4: there was a big boar here doing it right.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So that's why they're doing that.
Speaker 4: But so they're even in the off season when you
Speaker 4: would think they wouldn't need to that. You could just
Speaker 4: go find a bear track to run them. They're probably
Speaker 4: running through the real like dress rehearsal for the hunt,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Then you give them a little bears toothbrushes flooridem,
Speaker 1: that'd be like the That's probably like what their proposal
Speaker 1: would be, like, Okay, how about we just add fluoride?
Speaker 5: Yeah, to the swamps pour Out of four, out of
Speaker 5: five bear hunters approved, there's always that one.
Speaker 1: Okay, Hans, are you ready? Yeah? Okay, Hansei's here because
Speaker 1: he's working on Hans's working on six episodes for us
Speaker 1: that are called me Eater rough Cuts, six hunting Trips,
Speaker 1: yep six hunts. Some of the people on some of
Speaker 1: these hunts. Let me think how many of these Clay's
Speaker 1: not here, Tony's here, Seth's here, Yanni's here. Those guys
Speaker 1: aren't and Seth's here. You're working on a project about
Speaker 1: hunting Alaska moose Ye with me and Clay Nukeom. You're
Speaker 1: working on a project about hunting Oklahoma white Tails of
Speaker 1: me and Tony. You're working on a project about trapping
Speaker 1: in Montana me and Seth. You're working on a project
Speaker 1: about hunting COO's Dear in Mexico, Me and Yanni. You're
Speaker 1: working on a project about hunting Mewle's in Montana with
Speaker 1: me and Garrett, my friend Ronnie Collins, the spear fisherman.
Speaker 1: And then you're working on Texas whitetail me and Seth.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and Dave's with DSD.
Speaker 1: On Dave Smith. Yeah. Yeah, Okay, So tell me the challenges.
Speaker 1: Tell me the challenges of making something about trapping. Okay,
Speaker 1: where do we are all the action? As my wife
Speaker 1: points out, she doesn't like it because all the action
Speaker 1: happens out of sight. Yeah, it's like you're not even there.
Speaker 2: It's true.
Speaker 1: She thinks it's cheating because you're not there.
Speaker 6: No, it's it's true. I'm like it creates a challenge
Speaker 6: in that it's like not all in one day, right,
Speaker 6: there's no like there's no like through line arc natural
Speaker 6: progression of like we climbed the mountain and then we
Speaker 6: shot a ball and then we packed it down. It's
Speaker 6: it's like, well, no, we we had to set the
Speaker 6: traps first, and then we had to like give the
Speaker 6: traps chance to work. And so you come you're coming
Speaker 6: back days later and you're going to a whole bunch
Speaker 6: of different locations, right, and and there's like there's there's
Speaker 6: multiple species involved here too, right, So I mean you've
Speaker 6: got an entirely different selection of information for each trap
Speaker 6: different amounts of time. And now it creates kind of
Speaker 6: a possibility I think from a from a story perspective
Speaker 6: on like going to different places and and and learning
Speaker 6: new things and uh sign reading. And it's gonna be
Speaker 6: a heavily graphic treated episode because of that. So it's
Speaker 6: gonna be something that we've we've not done before in
Speaker 6: that regard.
Speaker 1: No, you know, another interesting thing about trying to film
Speaker 1: something about trapping, or in your position edit something about
Speaker 1: trapping is uh, not only is a lot the action
Speaker 1: occurring when you're not there in this case, the actions
Speaker 1: occurring underneath the ice, yeah, or like sort of underground,
Speaker 1: and when you make the set, it's obscured by dirt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so there's nothing clear about anything.
Speaker 6: No, No, that's where that's like, that's where the graphics
Speaker 6: come in.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't know it, but that's a set. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: just looks like dirt. Yeah. And then now we're gonna leave,
Speaker 1: yeah and see what happens, you.
Speaker 6: Know, there's there's a section in here where there, you know,
Speaker 6: Seth and and Steve are talking about uh, bubble lines
Speaker 6: in the ice, and it's like it's all this intricate detail,
Speaker 6: but we can't see any of it. It's like, well,
Speaker 6: in theory that's under there, like they're they're there.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 6: And and I won't say whether or not. I guess
Speaker 6: you guys are vindicated on your information, but yeah, it's.
Speaker 1: In that case we were vindicating. Yeah, I want to
Speaker 1: tell you in NAK that's one of those things where, uh,
Speaker 1: the the bubbles don't lie. Yeah, that amount of bubbles
Speaker 1: don't lie. Most things that are made about trapping, and
Speaker 1: I consume like a good deal of this stuff. Most
Speaker 1: things that are made about trap and are instructional. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: it's an instructional intensive Uh, it's an instructional intensive genre. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you're trying to make something that's sort of uh
Speaker 1: less instructional, sort of like entertainment.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And and in our case, like we have you and Seth,
Speaker 6: we have a long history of trapping, and so over
Speaker 6: time we're we're showing some inserts of like photographs of
Speaker 6: of you, like kind of set allah a Wes Anderson
Speaker 6: kind of feel stylized. Yeah, and it I mean, so
Speaker 6: so there's some stylized elements in here that just that
Speaker 6: just give just a new and different treatment to this.
Speaker 6: And and yeah, it'll still be instructional, I think, as
Speaker 6: it should be. I mean, it's it's uh, there's a
Speaker 6: lot to learn about it.
Speaker 1: Do you feel that that's the first one of these
Speaker 1: that we'll release?
Speaker 6: Oh boy, We're we're kind of in like different stages
Speaker 6: of production right now.
Speaker 2: So like.
Speaker 6: Alaska Moose with with Clay is like very I think,
Speaker 6: very far along, and then Oklahoma White Tail with Tony
Speaker 6: is pretty far along too. And and as far as
Speaker 6: like as far as which one's gonna come out first,
Speaker 6: I I just don't. I just don't know. I think
Speaker 6: I think probably the the one that we're we're still
Speaker 6: in the most production on is that the Texas Bucks
Speaker 6: with with You and Seth.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's got the farthest to go.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's farthest to go really, but but we
Speaker 6: have we.
Speaker 1: Have some really we like delivered gold I know you did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how much?
Speaker 7: How many how many buck attacks on the decoys did
Speaker 7: we see?
Speaker 6: Well, it's also it's also called Steven Seth Rattle in
Speaker 6: twenty two bucks. Yeah, it's I mean, that's that's the
Speaker 6: alter ego of the episode.
Speaker 1: They're Likeruly.
Speaker 6: It's really cool footage. It's amazing footage. Yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 6: it's it is.
Speaker 1: It is a well, let's no, but I don't want
Speaker 1: to move into that one yet, okay, copy. I want
Speaker 1: to move into working on working on from an editor's perspective.
Speaker 1: And this is the listening because I asked you something
Speaker 1: very specific. Yeah, so you're cutting Oklahoma White Tail Hunt
Speaker 1: with me and Tony Peterson. I want you to just
Speaker 1: this is going to be awkward, Okay. I want you
Speaker 1: to look Tony Peterson in the eye and tell him
Speaker 1: about what it's like to interact with his hosting as
Speaker 1: an editor.
Speaker 6: Tony's already like he's already like on edge, because when
Speaker 6: we were filming this, he was like Hans Hen He's
Speaker 6: got like he's got like really intense eyes. I keep
Speaker 6: looking at him in the camera and uh so, so okay,
Speaker 6: so how is it. How is it to interact with
Speaker 6: Tony as a host as an editor, as an editor?
Speaker 1: Are you like, God, this guy brings it?
Speaker 6: Uh No, it's it's Uh, okay, where where do I
Speaker 6: start with this?
Speaker 1: Where do I tell you what it's like? I've told
Speaker 1: I've told his story a lot of times. It's like
Speaker 1: with Tony, Tony is a very intense person hunt with
Speaker 1: do you really in a good way? He there to
Speaker 1: not get nothing? Yeah, well that's true. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: like on film tags. No.
Speaker 6: I think on that particular episode, like we've got it's
Speaker 6: kind of a cool piece because we have we have
Speaker 6: two different stories, which is not the only place that
Speaker 6: that's happening in rough cuts, but we have we have
Speaker 6: you guys on the hunt itself, which is a cool story.
Speaker 6: There's like some some drama moments and and things like
Speaker 6: that doesn't like all go to plan, which always makes
Speaker 6: for great TV. But on top of that, we're coming
Speaker 6: back to Tony like in a gym environment, talking about
Speaker 6: the logistics and the tactics of the hunt. So we
Speaker 6: get like two different slices of Tony a little bit.
Speaker 1: In the gym environment. Did you debate between going with
Speaker 1: the like suit like a retired athlete dude, or did
Speaker 1: you do you want to know how much I want
Speaker 1: to go like an old retired quarterback? Do I want
Speaker 1: to go like actively.
Speaker 6: I got like a sweater vest, like an old checked
Speaker 6: sweater vest kind of thing.
Speaker 4: But so you want to know how much information I
Speaker 4: got before filming that, Sam Bates sent me an email
Speaker 4: and she said, Hey, we need you to come out
Speaker 4: to Montana and shoot one scene for your Oklahoma show,
Speaker 4: and we need you to look like a pe Coach
Speaker 4: from the nineteen eighties like Taylor, right. And I really
Speaker 4: didn't know until right before the shoot kind of what
Speaker 4: the idea was behind this. And then when I showed up,
Speaker 4: you know, we went out to the YMCA and set up,
Speaker 4: and HANSI had a whole idea in his head.
Speaker 1: And let me tell you something.
Speaker 4: They ran me through the ringer because I had to
Speaker 4: do chin ups and talk like talk like I had
Speaker 4: to think on my feet and talk while do actively
Speaker 4: doing chin ups or like curling dumbbells and doing stuff.
Speaker 4: And after that shoot, because like I went into that shoot,
Speaker 4: I like, I go to the gym all the time.
Speaker 1: I'm fine.
Speaker 4: Like after that shoot, I was so sore because you
Speaker 4: never did talking well. It was like fifty reps in
Speaker 4: a row because they're like, well, we need another take,
Speaker 4: and you're like, well, this take is another six chin
Speaker 4: ups or you know, like imagine if you were and
Speaker 4: it like imagine if we just handed you like a
Speaker 4: twenty five pound dumbell. You could curl that, no problem, right,
Speaker 4: But if you had to hawk for like forty five
Speaker 4: seconds or a minute while curling NonStop like and kind
Speaker 4: of exaggerating it, you'd be like, well, I just did
Speaker 4: you know fifty three reps in a very short amount
Speaker 4: of time. And so HANSI put me through the wringer.
Speaker 4: And I think Hillary was loving it too. She said,
Speaker 4: let's have him do more stuff like that.
Speaker 1: That's great. So it was a it was the I've
Speaker 1: never done a shoot like that some of the but
Speaker 1: it's got to be good that we got a bunch
Speaker 1: of stuff.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, definitely definitely, Like dear.
Speaker 2: Do you need I need? So, I mean some of
Speaker 2: the some of the good thing.
Speaker 1: We killed everyone that walked by us. Yeah, there's the two.
Speaker 1: This is the thing and and uh that we used
Speaker 1: to struggle with is the too much of a good
Speaker 1: thing problem.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's exactly it. That's exactly it. And that's what
Speaker 6: happened with we won't go into it yet, but Texas Bucks.
Speaker 6: But but yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2: Steve's ready to go into it too many bucks.
Speaker 1: I'm not ready.
Speaker 2: I'm on open. Yeah.
Speaker 6: No, I think I think from like a from a
Speaker 6: story element absolutely so like too much of a good thing,
Speaker 6: and we're just trying to do something that's different. I
Speaker 6: think one of the elements of the whole series was that,
Speaker 6: you know, we had we had some limitations as far
Speaker 6: as like cameras, as far as how many cameras were
Speaker 6: on these shoots, and with with not having as many
Speaker 6: as like a mediatter episode of the past, we didn't
Speaker 6: have some like long lens footage, so we so we
Speaker 6: didn't have those those those same moments captured in great
Speaker 6: detail quite to the extent that you know we'd love.
Speaker 6: But it also offered another opportunity to create something different entirely,
Speaker 6: and that's and that's where we came up with these
Speaker 6: you know, inter cutting these scenes like with with Tony
Speaker 6: and uh and on this one is kind of like
Speaker 6: it's it's predicated on like there's a scene in Lockstock
Speaker 6: and Two Smoking Barrels Guy Ritchie film where they like
Speaker 6: open up a boiling pot of water and you see
Speaker 6: the cameras underneath this bottle of this pot of water
Speaker 6: and he chucks in a bunch of vegetables. But he's
Speaker 6: talking and you can hear the talking, and you see
Speaker 6: this site. And that's kind of similar to how we
Speaker 6: pitched some of these scenes with Tony, like on a
Speaker 6: pull up bar coming into frame, which was you know,
Speaker 6: probably uh hard, but like fun to be like, no,
Speaker 6: I'll do that again, uh, you know, a little more exercise.
Speaker 6: But but I think it. I think it worked. I
Speaker 6: think it was cool.
Speaker 1: And he's a good actor.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he worked.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we put him.
Speaker 6: We put him to work either way, whether.
Speaker 4: You know where I find my like source of inspiration
Speaker 4: for that. I just always think I just got to
Speaker 4: do a better job than Kenyon. I gotta imagine Kenyon
Speaker 4: in this situation, and how would I just do a
Speaker 4: little better job.
Speaker 1: Well, he's thinned up so much because all the running,
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: You know, I think he hasn't. I asked him about that.
Speaker 3: He looks it, but he hasn't. I think he's lost
Speaker 3: it in his face a little bit.
Speaker 1: Shave his mustache that strolls me off. Man, I've been
Speaker 1: avoiding my neighbors. I heard he cut his mustache off. No,
Speaker 1: I avoiding him because I'm like he's gonna look so different,
Speaker 1: forget his name, and gave himself a mohawk. No, there's
Speaker 1: a whole story about his mohawk. He was on like
Speaker 1: his he's a high school teacher and an artist.
Speaker 2: But that's it.
Speaker 8: We don't need any more.
Speaker 2: No, no, no.
Speaker 1: It was this thing for this thing for the high school.
Speaker 1: He was doing this thing with the high school kids,
Speaker 1: like this dodgeball tournament. So one thing led to do
Speaker 1: another and he had to get like a mohawk, and
Speaker 1: I was like, that's an interesting choice. He goes, this
Speaker 1: is a whole story behind this mohawk, and then I
Speaker 1: heard now his mustache. He's always since the dad I
Speaker 1: met him. He's my like one of my best buddies.
Speaker 1: Since the day I met him, he's always had various
Speaker 1: like configurations of crazy ass mustaches. My wife's like they're
Speaker 1: all gone, all the mustaches.
Speaker 4: You don't He recognized something, So you want to know
Speaker 4: how iconic Marx mustache was in my life, even my kids.
Speaker 4: Last night, my kids are out Yellowstone right now, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna meet up with him a little bit, and I
Speaker 4: talked to him last night and they when I told
Speaker 4: me about the they saw on all this stuff, and
Speaker 4: I was in our room and I'm rooming with Mark,
Speaker 4: and I made a joke so Mark could hear it,
Speaker 4: kind of like when I was talking to one of
Speaker 4: my daughters and she goes, are you rooming with mustache?
Speaker 4: There's multiple people in it. This is like how deer
Speaker 4: get derivative names, right, Like you talk about this buck
Speaker 4: and you're like that, I saw that ten pointer that
Speaker 4: had the dropper, and then over time he just becomes dropper,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? So Mark, like people will
Speaker 4: be like, is that the guy with the mustache and
Speaker 4: eventually he just becomes mustache mustache man?
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well when you want to talk about.
Speaker 6: Next which episode?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 1: Oh, man, let's do Moose.
Speaker 2: You got it?
Speaker 1: That's well, what do you want to talk about?
Speaker 6: I love I love the Moose episode. I think it's
Speaker 6: really cool.
Speaker 1: You like that one?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I do?
Speaker 1: You know why I like it?
Speaker 6: I have an idea?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 7: Was your moose bigger than Klay's moose?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yes, guess yeah.
Speaker 6: It's it's a great story, and it's like more of
Speaker 6: a day by day approach versus some of these others.
Speaker 6: So we have like day markers spread throughout, and there's
Speaker 6: been some like back and forth on voiceover narration or not,
Speaker 6: and I like, I'm leaning toward narration right now, whatsoever, whatsoever,
Speaker 6: because the story really speaks for itself. I think we
Speaker 6: like allowing allowing it to breathe, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah cool if if someone out there is an aspiring
Speaker 1: outdoor filmmaker or aspiring outdoor TV show maker. The way
Speaker 1: you want to set everything up is that you try,
Speaker 1: you go do something, you try really hard, and it
Speaker 1: doesn't work, and then all of a sudden it works.
Speaker 6: The hero story I mean, yeah, yeah, not that you
Speaker 6: rattle in.
Speaker 2: Not that it works every time the first time.
Speaker 1: Here comes the book and comes every time. Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 1: That's a great lived experience. Yeah, it's better if you
Speaker 1: just can't get anything to come in. Yeah, and you
Speaker 1: do it for days and then finally one comes in
Speaker 1: and you get it.
Speaker 6: That's the payoff. Yeah, that's what draft to build up
Speaker 6: that payoff.
Speaker 1: Editors don't want you to have a good hunt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they want you to have a nail biting. The editor
Speaker 1: wants you to have a nail biting horrible time. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then.
Speaker 2: But that's a metaphor for life, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh yeah. They don't make movies about like a
Speaker 1: sports team, like sports movies. You know, they don't make
Speaker 1: it that the movie starts and they're in they're champions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: dog story.
Speaker 2: Everyone loves their richest riches.
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Texas White was like we were born millionaires.
Speaker 1: So yeah, tell about your approach with the moose one.
Speaker 1: It's quiet.
Speaker 6: It is quiet, Yeah, relatively speaking. It's not like it's
Speaker 6: not like a lot of chugging music like driving the
Speaker 6: whole thing. It's a lot of it's a lot of
Speaker 6: moments between you and Clay talking, giving each other crap,
Speaker 6: and and and the logistics of it and and uh
Speaker 6: little details and and scenery. I mean that's and that's
Speaker 6: that's it. But it's it's uh it. I think it
Speaker 6: functions in that way because this is a story that's
Speaker 6: been like a long time in the making. You've been
Speaker 6: on how many nine hunts for this or how many.
Speaker 1: Times have I've done that sort of thing?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, A bunch for just generally hunting moose in Alaska,
Speaker 1: A bunch honey moose that way in Alaska, maybe four
Speaker 1: or five times.
Speaker 6: Okay, And it gives us a perspective on that that,
Speaker 6: Like the beginning, you talk about the several different types
Speaker 6: of hunt that that can be in Alaska, and so
Speaker 6: we I think we really get a like a very
Speaker 6: visceral experience of what that fly in type of hunt is.
Speaker 6: And it can be grueling.
Speaker 1: I mean, I try to explain in it there's we've
Speaker 1: filmed all these kinds I think, yeah, we have over
Speaker 1: the years. Yeah, I try to break up something that's
Speaker 1: kind of complicated into three buckets. With moose hunting, float
Speaker 1: hunts where you're like, hunt float down the river, hunt
Speaker 1: float down the river, hunt float down the river. It's
Speaker 1: very dynamic. You're eys in different spots, you're seeing cool stuff.
Speaker 1: You're like, hey, look at there's a fish. You know,
Speaker 1: setting up camp all damn time whatever, It's just a
Speaker 1: lot happening. That's the pro The con is you don't
Speaker 1: really settle in and you're not doing a long game
Speaker 1: calling strategy because you're always in new spots. Another style
Speaker 1: of moose hunting would be that you're cruising somehow. You're
Speaker 1: cruising by quad runner, you're cruising by bow, you're cruising
Speaker 1: on foot, you're cruising the horses and you're like looking
Speaker 1: for moose that you'll make a play on. Then the
Speaker 1: third is that you're somewhere where you can't move stock
Speaker 1: and you have to just try to call one to you.
Speaker 1: And that's the kind that's the most boring to do.
Speaker 1: It's the most boring to watch, but it's psychologically the
Speaker 1: most fulfilling. Yeah, in my view, Yo, any think's stupid, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know about its stupid, but not on my list
Speaker 3: of things to repeat.
Speaker 1: He's not mature enough for it.
Speaker 6: It's more of a gentleman's game what you're saying.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, just an old guys game.
Speaker 1: It's the old guy's game.
Speaker 2: Well you said mature. Usually people mature with age.
Speaker 1: Not like that. That spot the old guys game.
Speaker 8: Oh guys not walking half a mile down the hill
Speaker 8: to get water.
Speaker 2: Pack that up.
Speaker 1: It's a mind Uh, it's all mental.
Speaker 6: It's patience thing, isn't it? That intrigues me about it?
Speaker 2: For sure?
Speaker 8: I've grown to really like that hunt. At first, I
Speaker 8: didn't like it.
Speaker 1: Because of what I'm talking about. Yeah, let me tell
Speaker 1: you so. I got a way of put it. I
Speaker 1: got a metaphor for you. Years ago, I was on
Speaker 1: an airplane. I only had two kids at the time,
Speaker 1: and they were real little, and I was flying with
Speaker 1: the two little kids without my wife, and I'm struggling.
Speaker 1: Everybody's shitting themselves, pissing themselves, crying, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: little kids. And the guy behind me offers me a
Speaker 1: word of encouragement. He says, listen, right now, it's all physical.
Speaker 1: Later it'll all be mental. And it's better when it's physical.
Speaker 2: It's easier.
Speaker 1: Now, let's apply that to moose hunting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think by that metaphor, you're agreeing with me.
Speaker 2: You're saying it's better when it's physical.
Speaker 1: Yeah, never mind that story.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 5: But but aren't you.
Speaker 4: Also saying that we always view the physical stuff as
Speaker 4: the hard part, but the mental stuff is really the
Speaker 4: hard part.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. I put that back. Yeah, you put
Speaker 1: it back in.
Speaker 8: But there is some physical aspects of that hunt, because
Speaker 8: you got to pack the thing back to the strip.
Speaker 3: Well, but once you get good at that hunt, you
Speaker 3: shoot them on the strip.
Speaker 2: From what I understand, I'm not to.
Speaker 1: That level of discipline. I'm not to that level of mental.
Speaker 2: It'd be tough. Well, you could do it there, but
Speaker 2: there are guys.
Speaker 1: There are guys that I believe there are I know
Speaker 1: this for a fact because I've just heard it from
Speaker 1: too many people who are trustworthy sources. There are people
Speaker 1: who will that I've known, who will be like, oh,
Speaker 1: we could get that bowl right now, dead to rights,
Speaker 1: but we're going to call it more toward the air strip.
Speaker 1: That is not a place I have arrived at, nor
Speaker 1: will I ever arrive at that place mentally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but maybe physically.
Speaker 1: I could see that you'd be placed there physically, That's true.
Speaker 1: You might be placed there physically, but I will never
Speaker 1: arrive there. Where Like, we could get it now and
Speaker 1: just have it be gotten, or we could try to
Speaker 1: call it up to the airstrip. There's a level of
Speaker 1: confidence there, there's a certain swagger. Yeah, now that would
Speaker 1: be a good episode.
Speaker 6: Calling it to the airstrip. You know, Well, there's a
Speaker 6: lot too calling I mean, you talked about it with
Speaker 6: with Buck Bowden in the past, and we talked about
Speaker 6: it a little bit in this episode, and I mean
Speaker 6: it's it's all with your throat in your mouth, and
Speaker 6: it's I mean, that's a pretty intriguing element to me.
Speaker 6: I'm nodding here, like oh yeah, yeah, calling it to
Speaker 6: the landing strip like I know what I'm talking about,
Speaker 6: but I really I've just like watched you know, I've
Speaker 6: watched all this transit.
Speaker 1: Watched enough of it. Yeah, but you know what you do.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you this, ask you this as
Speaker 1: an editor. This was kind of our white whale. I think.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, you were working on me either when
Speaker 1: we with this is the thing we wanted to do.
Speaker 1: We wanted to make a show one day twenty two minutes. Okay,
Speaker 1: if people wondered, why twenty minutes, because it's a show's
Speaker 1: thirty minutes. But when you pull out the ad time,
Speaker 1: you got twenty minutes to work with. Is that the
Speaker 1: point you're gonna make Yanny?
Speaker 3: Uh No, I was just gonna say, you're talking about
Speaker 3: the one that we want. Our dream was to make
Speaker 3: one in real time.
Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah. We wanted to somehow find a way to
Speaker 1: make an episode that was just hit record.
Speaker 7: A live stream, no.
Speaker 1: But hit record and then after twenty two minutes, hit stop.
Speaker 1: And we used to think that you would like go
Speaker 1: out and sort of pick a thing like a stock,
Speaker 1: find a stock and be like, okay, go.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I used to prep you.
Speaker 3: I mean, there were a couple of hunts we went
Speaker 3: on and where we were like, if we have the opportunity,
Speaker 3: I'll be like, Steve, this is it. We're going to
Speaker 3: try it right now, and I would prep you with
Speaker 3: talking points that you'd have to hit in those twenty
Speaker 3: two minutes, and the goal would be that, like the
Speaker 3: beginning of the stock was the beginning, and then as
Speaker 3: we went through the stock, you'd be like, you know,
Speaker 3: keeping people along, doing your thing, and then somewhere around
Speaker 3: the bang or soon after the bang, you would hit
Speaker 3: stop and you'd have twenty two minutes of like literally
Speaker 3: one shot, and you'd have this episode.
Speaker 1: You'd be like a Robert Altman scene. We never did this, Hansy,
Speaker 1: great edit. You should do more of the show.
Speaker 8: In Texas.
Speaker 7: With the twenty two bucks that got called in.
Speaker 1: We could have made a twenty two minute bus. You
Speaker 1: know what what made us think? What made us think
Speaker 1: of that idea. We were in New Zealand one time
Speaker 1: and we did like kind of a little bonus thing.
Speaker 1: One day. This guy was going out the hunt pigs
Speaker 1: with his dogs in New Zealand and he's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll meet at whatever place were.
Speaker 3: You on this No, but I've often referenced this episode
Speaker 3: because it's impressive what transpired.
Speaker 1: We didn't know where we're going, and we're like, okay,
Speaker 1: we'll bring all our stuff and we go out. This
Speaker 1: guy we get there like right at daylight, his little
Speaker 1: dogs strike a track of a pig. We're in the mountains.
Speaker 1: And also in a while later, like the dogs, I'm
Speaker 1: not kidding you, the dogs cease existing on his GPS.
Speaker 1: It's because they've gone into a pig's hole. Okay, so
Speaker 1: you just lose contact with you know where they were,
Speaker 1: but you're not getting any feedback from m because they're
Speaker 1: down in a hole fighting a pig in a cave hole. Okay,
Speaker 1: like a like a hole in the ground. We eventually
Speaker 1: find the pig. The dogs are blocking them up. We
Speaker 1: excavate straight down and arrive at the pig's back like
Speaker 1: dig a big hole down to the pig, find the pig,
Speaker 1: get the pig killed, drag the pig up out of
Speaker 1: the hole. The New Zealand dude gets a big fire going,
Speaker 1: gets the pig all wet in the creek, burns all
Speaker 1: the hair off it, and by this point it's like
Speaker 1: ten in the morning and we're like, oh, that's we
Speaker 1: just made like an episode of a TV show and
Speaker 1: like ran it. Yeah, it was great. Yeah, all this
Speaker 1: stuff going somewhere seven days. It's like it was like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not kidding you. Besides us cooking some
Speaker 1: pig later, I mean, it was like eleven o'clock in
Speaker 1: the morning and we're like, that was the most amazing
Speaker 1: morning of the most amazing morning I've ever been involved in.
Speaker 3: It's definitely besides maybe a cooking episode that's a totally
Speaker 3: different animal. But as far as a hunting meter episode,
Speaker 3: I think it's the only one that's ever been shot
Speaker 3: in one day.
Speaker 1: Half a day that got a sick. We should try
Speaker 1: to do one in twenty two minutes. Uh hell are
Speaker 1: we talking about.
Speaker 2: Long moose?
Speaker 1: Moose? Yeah, so the moose hunt. Yeah, No one goes anywhere.
Speaker 6: No, you're in the same spot the whole time. I mean,
Speaker 6: it's a it.
Speaker 1: We shot maybe about twenty yards from where we spent
Speaker 1: eight six days.
Speaker 6: It's like a war of attrition, you guys just like
Speaker 6: waiting it out.
Speaker 3: What makes that one particularly tough and the patients is
Speaker 3: that there are many other hunts where the same level
Speaker 3: of patients is required.
Speaker 2: I mean, hunting eight days in the white tail rut.
Speaker 3: Can be that way because you're going you're like, I
Speaker 3: want to see five bucks a day. Often you're like,
Speaker 3: I saw a flicker of a tail, and I sat
Speaker 3: here for ten hours, but I saw birds and squirrels
Speaker 3: and a bobcat watch by, and there's other things happening
Speaker 3: in the eastern deciduous force up there. The amount of wildlife,
Speaker 3: even though Alaska is often considered this just the place of.
Speaker 2: A lot with.
Speaker 3: Abundance, abundance with critters, it's not. When the salmon are
Speaker 3: there that day in the river, it's amazing, there's tens
Speaker 3: of thousands swimming by your feet. But a month earlier
Speaker 3: there was zero, and a month later there's zero. And
Speaker 3: when you're sitting on that knob waiting for that moose,
Speaker 3: there is not an abundance of wildlife, which makes it
Speaker 3: particularly tough to entertain your mind.
Speaker 1: That's what I've tried to raise that point. Before caribou hunting,
Speaker 1: you're sitting there watching three hundred cariboo walk by, and
Speaker 1: you're like, my god, like the land of plenty, and
Speaker 1: be like, let's talk about the other eleven months in
Speaker 1: two weeks, you can sit here and nothing walks by.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's all these there's all these moments that you know,
Speaker 6: like for all of this together, all these episodes, I
Speaker 6: want to say, there's probably like one hundred and forty
Speaker 6: hours of a footage. Sure, yeah, so, and and all
Speaker 6: that comes down to like a little over two hours
Speaker 6: like of final really what you're dealing with. Yeah, so
Speaker 6: that's that's the gross amount. But like even within this
Speaker 6: episode with like nine days or however many long, it
Speaker 6: was like, there's all these moments that I want to
Speaker 6: include that like evidence exactly what you guys are talking about,
Speaker 6: Like where the like your your mental stimulus from your
Speaker 6: surroundings becomes so narrowed over time where you're so hyper attuned.
Speaker 6: It seems like so hyper attuned to your surroundings and
Speaker 6: the environment and what you're seeing. That like you've got that,
Speaker 6: and then you've got like the mental stimulus between each other,
Speaker 6: and then you end up creating these like and it
Speaker 6: all kind of killed me to cut this, but there
Speaker 6: was like this one scene where you guys create this
Speaker 6: song about like a watermelon man on a corn stand
Speaker 6: on a block on some block in New York city.
Speaker 1: We were singing, and I cut it simple man. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: that's a simple kind. Yeah, because Clay was saying when
Speaker 1: he retires, he wants to open up a sweet corn stand.
Speaker 1: So we rewrote simple man as cornstan.
Speaker 2: I forgot about that.
Speaker 1: When I was young. Uh, build your stand, son, and
Speaker 1: they will come plant your seeds in the morning sun.
Speaker 7: And then we need like some outtakes because part of
Speaker 7: his problem was he wants to be a corn stand man,
Speaker 7: but just not grow the corn, which is not the
Speaker 7: kind of corn stand I want to go to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's store man. He wants to be like I mean,
Speaker 1: he wants to be like a like a retailer system.
Speaker 3: I'm just guessing here, but I don't think that that
Speaker 3: on average, the person running the corn and stand is
Speaker 3: the farmer.
Speaker 1: That's the kind I like to go to. That I
Speaker 1: would have family, really, Yeah, where I mean I grew up.
Speaker 2: They have to be out on the well.
Speaker 4: You's like the farmer's fifteen year old daughter has to
Speaker 4: set there all day or somebody in the in the sphere,
Speaker 4: maybe not.
Speaker 1: The person planting the seed and run the combine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when I go to a corn stand man, I do
Speaker 1: not want to be buying no corn from some guy
Speaker 1: that bought that corn. I will, I don't want to
Speaker 1: that's the grocery store, right, well, that's the business Clay
Speaker 1: wants to retire into it. Imagine that he wants to
Speaker 1: be a simple corn stand man. He told me, you
Speaker 1: want to be a commercial cab fisherman. When yeah, but
Speaker 1: you can't do that, a simple commercial cat fishing man.
Speaker 1: Too many syllables even for us. Uh so you cut
Speaker 1: that out? Yeah, yeah, sadly I wish, because that would
Speaker 1: have given you six minutes, right.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, yeah it was.
Speaker 6: It was too long.
Speaker 2: We should make that a YouTube short.
Speaker 6: There are so many that come out of these. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 6: there's and uh you know we do.
Speaker 2: We have a whole channel for that now.
Speaker 6: So yeah, yeah, no, the YouTube clips, there's some cool
Speaker 6: stuff happening on that, yeah for sure. But yeah, Tho's
Speaker 6: future stuff, future projects. And you know, we've talked about
Speaker 6: like director's cuts, you know, the equivalent with some of
Speaker 6: these episodes too. It seems like a possibility, especially with
Speaker 6: a couple of them.
Speaker 1: So we talked about ratland Bucks, but have we talked
Speaker 1: about ratland Box a ratland Box episode. I mean, we've
Speaker 1: touched on it, but have we tackled it?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 6: No, No, we touched on it over.
Speaker 1: We've played for again, we've played flag football.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're just giving stones on it over the top
Speaker 6: of it. So go on, too many Bucks? Too Many Bucks?
Speaker 6: Is that twenty two bucks episode? And it's just like
Speaker 6: if I were to compare it like a like a
Speaker 6: through line like a story. You know, most of these
Speaker 6: stories have like a curve and it goes up and
Speaker 6: then there's an apex and it comes down very quickly,
Speaker 6: and then this one is just like flat line of
Speaker 6: action for like twenty two minutes. So in trying to
Speaker 6: like figure out what to do with that.
Speaker 2: We were.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like, the footage is cool.
Speaker 6: I shouldn't say that.
Speaker 1: As I went into that, no one. I went into
Speaker 1: it thinking, this is about rattling a bunch of bucks.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you're like, I just wanted to be a montage
Speaker 8: of us rattling a bunch of bucks.
Speaker 2: And by the end I was like, but I think
Speaker 2: we got that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you definitely got that. You definitely got that. But
Speaker 6: on top of that, there's just like some other cool
Speaker 6: things that I think we were able to weave in
Speaker 6: which was this, you have a posturing deer decoy, which
Speaker 6: I think is a pretty interesting concept just from like
Speaker 6: a just bringing in bucks to a decoy is an
Speaker 6: interesting concept on its own, but then rattling it in
Speaker 6: on top of that provides another element. But with this
Speaker 6: DSD decoy, I mean getting a little bit of background
Speaker 6: and context for that, for that how that came about
Speaker 6: in your relationship with Dave, and using it on this
Speaker 6: shoot was like a whole interesting through line that that
Speaker 6: we're gonna weave together with the with the with the action,
Speaker 6: which is cool obviously, but but it gives you some
Speaker 6: some context.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't mean this has any disrespect to anybody
Speaker 1: in this room, but I like Dave by name that
Speaker 1: I work with.
Speaker 6: Oh, he's a he's a great person. I mean you
Speaker 6: see that on the interview, and I don't hardly know.
Speaker 1: You can't hear a thing anybody says.
Speaker 3: He spoke yesterday we had a big company wide meeting.
Speaker 3: He started off by saying very nervous to speak in
Speaker 3: front of people, but then landed like three very good jokes.
Speaker 3: I felt that aside had he not done his little joke,
Speaker 3: but at all when that man starts to talk about
Speaker 3: his craft. I mean you can just feel it from
Speaker 3: his heart. And like I was skeoching up in my
Speaker 3: seat being like, what else is he gonna say? I mean,
Speaker 3: I find it very captivating when he's about his craft,
Speaker 3: and uh yeah, he's great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he's He's the next level. It's hard.
Speaker 6: It was hard to like isolate and Hillary Hillary Burne,
Speaker 6: our post production director, has provided so much for this
Speaker 6: whole project, like idea wise, and but she was on
Speaker 6: the she was on that shoot. And when she brought
Speaker 6: the footage.
Speaker 1: Back and was pulling Dave.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and when she brought that stuff back, she was
Speaker 6: pulling the selects, which is like the best moments of it.
Speaker 6: And it was like I was asking her, how's it going,
Speaker 6: and She's like, there's this just so much that's good,
Speaker 6: like so much everything that he talks about, everything his story,
Speaker 6: it's like so interesting and so and then it was
Speaker 6: all of a sudden it was like, all right, well,
Speaker 6: we can't, we don't. This is not a DSD commercial.
Speaker 6: We don't want it to be like a marketing piece,
Speaker 6: like necessarily, this is a this is a story profile,
Speaker 6: it's a profile. And and but his there's so much
Speaker 6: interesting stuff that he says. It's like we could make
Speaker 6: a whole we could make a whole show on on Dave.
Speaker 6: I think. I mean, he's just seems like a cool cat. Uh.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you a funny story about day, but I
Speaker 1: gotta give a little background on it to the listener.
Speaker 1: Here at our company, we have this thing. I don't
Speaker 1: know if anyone pays attention to it, but it's on
Speaker 1: your calendar every day. There's supposed to be like a
Speaker 1: time of day people are like, oh, I got you know,
Speaker 1: I got two men emails. I can't focus on what
Speaker 1: I want to focus on. So there's like this time
Speaker 1: of day when it's supposed to be that you can't
Speaker 1: email like company focus time.
Speaker 2: You can't have meetings during that time.
Speaker 1: But I never get to do it because I always
Speaker 1: have meetings. But it's like company focus time, so it
Speaker 1: always pops up. I don't know, fait does it? Does anybody
Speaker 1: pay attention to Company focus Time four day? It's just
Speaker 1: it's just built. It's like it's a it's a joke.
Speaker 1: It's always been there and no one knows what it
Speaker 1: is whatever, but it's there. Yeah, I'm hunting turkeys with
Speaker 1: Dave during the week. Hey, me and Dave, we're hunting turkeys.
Speaker 1: We're driving from one spot to the next days like
Speaker 1: looking at his phone, he looks at me. Oh shit,
Speaker 1: it's company focused on.
Speaker 6: So did he observe it?
Speaker 1: We focused on driving to our next jury?
Speaker 2: Nice?
Speaker 1: Okay, who's dear with Yannis? What a smart guy is?
Speaker 6: Well, because you guys have some good ribbing back and forth.
Speaker 6: But yeah, that's a that's that one's where like things
Speaker 6: get weird right where we took this episode that was.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, where's.
Speaker 6: He going with this?
Speaker 7: Well?
Speaker 1: Made us go to a new spot.
Speaker 6: Okay, Yeah, so that's what started maybe the beginning. It's
Speaker 6: maybe the beginning.
Speaker 1: I want to hear from your perspective, but.
Speaker 6: Well, from what I saw, I was like, we had
Speaker 6: this tremendously beautiful hunt in Sonora. I mean this the
Speaker 6: scenery there is outstanding. It's incredible. I've never been, but again,
Speaker 6: I've like just watched a lot of those footage, but
Speaker 6: it was it was like nothing happened for seven days.
Speaker 6: So we had we had we had all this footage
Speaker 6: of like you know, driving around, Johnny gets stuck in
Speaker 6: a can am or a polaris or something, and that's
Speaker 6: like kind of an interesting moment and which is evidence
Speaker 6: of the hard country. But like that's that's what we
Speaker 6: have for like seven days. And then in like twenty
Speaker 6: minutes at the end of this, like you guys both
Speaker 6: do deer at the end of this, and it happens
Speaker 6: so fast, and we don't have any like long lens,
Speaker 6: so like the very zoomed in picture of the deer
Speaker 6: and what they're doing and things like that. So we
Speaker 6: were just limited on what we have for this episode.
Speaker 6: And so in the process of trying to come up,
Speaker 6: we like I cut an episode and it turned out
Speaker 6: to be I want to say it was like fourteen
Speaker 6: minutes or something like that, and it was it was
Speaker 6: interesting to watch. I thought, like, once we got it
Speaker 6: all together, it was like a it was an interesting
Speaker 6: fourteen minute episode, but like these these have to be
Speaker 6: twenty two. And so the idea became like, all right,
Speaker 6: what if we what if we have you guys like
Speaker 6: Ciskel and Ebert like in a movie theater kind of
Speaker 6: like uh Mystery science Theater, the show where they watch
Speaker 6: like b movies and science fiction and they have these
Speaker 6: like little silhouetted guys in front of the movie, and
Speaker 6: what if we have them sitting there talking about and
Speaker 6: narrating effectively this episode. And so we had you guys
Speaker 6: come on a to a little cinema and Livingstone and
Speaker 6: and uh and basically reshoot the thing. So we had
Speaker 6: a what the cinema people would call like second unit.
Speaker 6: So we had you know, we had lighting and we
Speaker 6: had cameras again, and then we we shot. We shot you.
Speaker 1: Doctor Randall makes a cameo.
Speaker 6: Doctor Randall makes a cameo. He's a he is an
Speaker 6: annoyed an annoyed theater goer, which is which is kind
Speaker 6: of fun. But but no, I think we get a
Speaker 6: little bit of like extra again, extra context, extra extra background,
Speaker 6: and uh, it is it was a giant pain in
Speaker 6: the butt. I mean, like you're talking about a TV
Speaker 6: show in a TV show like so, so that alone
Speaker 6: is like got a lot of technical constraints and our
Speaker 6: team is awesome and so like Zoe, our post production
Speaker 6: supervisor has done some cool work and like compositing that
Speaker 6: all together so that it just it's it looks different,
Speaker 6: like I don't think anybody's ever done this in the
Speaker 6: hunting space, Like I don't think that exists. So that's
Speaker 6: that's what makes me excited about this episode.
Speaker 1: We still haven't tackled the too many bucks. Yeah, why
Speaker 1: why why do you think people don't? Why do people
Speaker 1: not just want to watch awesome buck footage? I think
Speaker 1: we're gonna just call it awesome buck footage.
Speaker 6: I think I think we're going to get that too.
Speaker 1: Did you see that one?
Speaker 9: It's drooling I've seen I've seen multiple more like have
Speaker 9: like swollen necks and just like he's drooling.
Speaker 6: I think I think I know the shot you're talking about.
Speaker 1: He's coming straight straight in.
Speaker 6: Yeah, got a little bit more of a vertical set
Speaker 6: of antlers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now that's the one I had to stomp ACTU
Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna get That's that's pretty wild. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what else am I think? Do you see the one
Speaker 1: that you see how they what's going through their head
Speaker 1: when they want to attack the decoy?
Speaker 6: Oh, I mean we have we have footage of them
Speaker 6: literally attacking the decoy. I mean that's that's cool stuff too.
Speaker 1: I always pictured when a buck was going to attack,
Speaker 1: like because your picture this, it's like you're giving a
Speaker 1: buck the dream scenario as the assaulter.
Speaker 6: Because he's going anyway, here's a buck.
Speaker 1: He's gonna fight, but the buck is doing no defensive maneuvering.
Speaker 1: So you're able to see like like let's say I
Speaker 1: said to you, uh, go punch that guy right, and
Speaker 1: you're approaching thinking like, okay, I'm gonna have to dodge
Speaker 1: his punches, you know, but it winds up being like
Speaker 1: power slapping. So but you can just do what you
Speaker 1: want to do. So here you're seeing bucks who are
Speaker 1: coming in being like, oh shit, I'm gonna need to
Speaker 1: fight this buck. I hope I don't get hurt. And
Speaker 1: after comments, he's like, oh it, man, this buck is
Speaker 1: not doing any of the things that would defend it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he's like, so what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: come from behind. I'm gonna get up to him, right
Speaker 1: alongside of him. I'm gonna stand there a long time,
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna bayl Ris. That's what he wants
Speaker 1: to hit. And the.
Speaker 6: Moment, the moment of curiosity was like it's like it
Speaker 6: lasted so long, curious, curious, and then the moment of
Speaker 6: aggression was like four seconds, like.
Speaker 1: But you get to see what he would prefer to
Speaker 1: do is hit you so hard in your ribs. He
Speaker 1: doesn't want to hit your head. Ye, yeah, he doesn't
Speaker 1: want to hit your your weapons are man. He wants
Speaker 1: to punch your ribs hard death.
Speaker 3: Do you ever have any that, because, like you said,
Speaker 3: they figure out once they make impact that there's not
Speaker 3: a buck. But did you ever have some so some
Speaker 3: that were so curious or aggressive that even then they're like,
Speaker 3: that's not.
Speaker 2: A buck, but I can't take it. I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: back again.
Speaker 1: They were definitely, they definitely were like something is askew.
Speaker 8: Well, we got one where he came in, knocked the
Speaker 8: decoy over. I ran out there, set it back up,
Speaker 8: and then he came back in again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I should say there's always it's hard to know
Speaker 1: what's going on in a deer's head. I would say
Speaker 1: that that the handful of times, there was always like
Speaker 1: what I read as a bit of like what yeah,
Speaker 1: like a what.
Speaker 2: You know not.
Speaker 1: That he would hit and then kind of recovered from
Speaker 1: the surprise.
Speaker 3: It was like a gobbler, right, he just will sit
Speaker 3: there and keep flogging that thing. You know, there's no
Speaker 3: it sounds like plastic, it's on the ground.
Speaker 2: Its throlling around.
Speaker 3: Still hasn't reacted to him, but he's like whatever, I'm
Speaker 3: waving it to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like, oh yeah, well now I'm gonna breathe you.
Speaker 6: You make a really good point in that episode that
Speaker 6: you say, like i'd like to to the effect of
Speaker 6: like I'd like to interview I'd like to interview a deer,
Speaker 6: but it's got to be an honest one. Yeah, Like
Speaker 6: and that's that was.
Speaker 1: So mister buck when you came running up here and
Speaker 1: you saw that deer standard, what was the first thing
Speaker 1: you thought, you.
Speaker 6: Know, like an exit interview like this won't affect you,
Speaker 6: but we've got to know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just my advice as my advice to use.
Speaker 1: Just let people like those bucks.
Speaker 6: It's definitely definitely not gonna tell you how to do
Speaker 6: your job, Hansei.
Speaker 1: But okay, it's one last one we was talked about
Speaker 1: cutting cutting a Mule Deer episode.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so the Mealier episode is you Ronnie Collins Garrett,
Speaker 6: and uh, it happens like it's kind of another one
Speaker 6: that happens quickly, like it's like a day right, too good.
Speaker 6: It's it's just too good. And there's one and this
Speaker 6: is like a technical consideration that's just sometimes just a bummer.
Speaker 6: It's just it's windy, and like it's just when and
Speaker 6: like there's no really great way to everything sounds like, yeah,
Speaker 6: there's no really great way to like eliminate that or
Speaker 6: or you know, clean it up afterward. And so is
Speaker 6: that right, There's not like there's there's an extent.
Speaker 1: Right, there's no I would think there's gotta be some
Speaker 1: little magic trick to make all that goal away.
Speaker 6: It's it still just sounds like you've you've treated it heavily,
Speaker 6: and so it's like distracting. So I think it's it's
Speaker 6: getting better like every year, but still, but I think
Speaker 6: another another element of that is just that it's like
Speaker 6: when it's windy, people just talk less, like on camera
Speaker 6: when it's windy. And I don't know what that is,
Speaker 6: but it's just an observation I've had is that it's
Speaker 6: something I don't know if it's a just a something
Speaker 6: very primordial or or whatnot, but like they just talk less.
Speaker 6: And that's and that's definitely what happened. But it gave
Speaker 6: us a kind of a cool oppera ortunity to like,
Speaker 6: I mean, these hunts are across big expanses and long
Speaker 6: they can be long shots. And so it kind of
Speaker 6: gave us an example, like an instance in which to
Speaker 6: talk about long distance shooting as it pertains to meld
Speaker 6: your hunting yep. And so we have this episode that
Speaker 6: was that we then shot again with Garrett and you
Speaker 6: at the range talking about long range shooting and talk
Speaker 6: about talking about the evolution of long range shooting as
Speaker 6: it applies to hunting and practice. And so the other
Speaker 6: cool thing about this is it is going to be
Speaker 6: like graphically treated, So we're going to have graphics in
Speaker 6: it that demonstrate and show some of the trajectory trajectories
Speaker 6: of bullets over distance and and how that how that works,
Speaker 6: and how practice like actually works, like how it actually
Speaker 6: affects your hunt.
Speaker 1: And also a thing we'll get into is that people
Speaker 1: want to I think this will be in the final
Speaker 1: product an observation that no one questions gravity, but shooters
Speaker 1: want to act like the wind, that they can wish
Speaker 1: the wind away, right.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They would never be like I'm just going to act
Speaker 1: like gravity isn't going to pull that bullet down, But
Speaker 1: when it's windy, they're like, I'm going to act like
Speaker 1: the wind isn't going to blow that bullet because I
Speaker 1: don't want to go into that hole. I don't want
Speaker 1: to go into that whole deal, you know, So it's
Speaker 1: gonna be like somehow it's not actually going to blow
Speaker 1: the bullet way over to the right or left, you know,
Speaker 1: which is the thing we talked about on the range,
Speaker 1: like wind is as real factor. It's as real as gravity.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's easy to understand one axis, but when you
Speaker 3: add in the second one, it gets real complicated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And my tendency would my tendency has been to
Speaker 1: be like I'm just going to wish that one away,
Speaker 1: like maybe it's only windy where I'm at. Is it
Speaker 1: going to be blowing the bullet the whole old time,
Speaker 1: because how could it. That's time on the range, you know,
Speaker 1: not home on the range. Time on the range has demonstrated,
Speaker 1: like when you one of the things about shooting extreme
Speaker 1: dis not even extreme distances, because that means a whole
Speaker 1: new thing. Though shooting long distances, shooting at distances greater
Speaker 1: than I would shoot in the hunting has taught me
Speaker 1: to accept the reality of wind. When you're shooting at
Speaker 1: in the high wind, you're shooting at stuff six seven
Speaker 1: hundred yards away and you're watching bullets hit the sand
Speaker 1: several targets to the left or right. You're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I now agree that this has to be paid attention to.
Speaker 6: You know, there's a moment in that where you're like,
Speaker 6: this is like post post hunt where you're like, my
Speaker 6: practice has paid off. Yeah, and and and it's not
Speaker 6: just it's obvious. It's like obvious to the viewer, and
Speaker 6: it's obvious to Garrett. And it's like you don't hardly
Speaker 6: need to say it because we've seen it happen, but
Speaker 6: it just it. It's yeah, it's the real deal.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, what else you want to add there?
Speaker 6: Jordans Jordan Martin's our editor working on that one right now,
Speaker 6: and he's doing bang up job. And uh, I think there.
Speaker 6: The thing about these episodes that kind of ties them
Speaker 6: all together is that we get a little bit deeper
Speaker 6: context of you as a character, a human, a hunter.
Speaker 6: Like we just we it's like we layer down. It's
Speaker 6: not like a substitute for meat Eater the show, but
Speaker 6: it's just like we get some little snippets here and
Speaker 6: there of like seth of you, of of dirt. We
Speaker 6: get some like camera operator moments that are that are
Speaker 6: like just cool little little tidbits that I think add
Speaker 6: add some humor, add some fun. And we're just psyched
Speaker 6: about it right now.
Speaker 1: Unless governed.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, there's like we kind of threw the rules
Speaker 6: out the window to an extent. And so and when
Speaker 6: does this series drop? I think early November. I think
Speaker 6: that is what we're looking at right now.
Speaker 1: You better get out of this place and get up
Speaker 1: to your little place.
Speaker 6: I know was not at half of yesterday for that
Speaker 6: exact reason. So, yeah, clock's ticking, I believe me, I
Speaker 6: feel it. I feel it.
Speaker 1: Well, stay tuned everybody for rough cuts. Thanks, It's gonna
Speaker 1: be fun many Yeah. SE's got little moments in there.
Speaker 1: It's cute.
Speaker 6: John, he's got some great one liners.
Speaker 1: And Tony's in there. Brent, you had it said, hell
Speaker 1: a lot. You titillated.
Speaker 5: I can't hardly wait. I want to hear the rest
Speaker 5: of the song. Yeah, oh, but not right now. You
Speaker 5: won a case pocket knife last night.
Speaker 1: I did. Congratulations, I did. He gave it away he
Speaker 1: has one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I gave you yeah, or three. I gave it
Speaker 5: to Myriva Dreva Hanson, who does all the editing on
Speaker 5: my podcast A wonderful human being.
Speaker 1: And real quick house this country life going. You're appreciating
Speaker 1: it very much, So yeah, it's very good. I get
Speaker 1: a lot, a lot of feedback.
Speaker 5: You know, when I started that thing, I really didn't
Speaker 5: really know the direction it was going to go. I
Speaker 5: thought it would just be I didn't want it to
Speaker 5: just be hunting fishing stories or hauling hay stories. And
Speaker 5: because I didn't think there was enough meat there to
Speaker 5: do it. Because there's way more people who are a
Speaker 5: lot better at hunting and fishing than I am that
Speaker 5: are putting stuff out there to educate people. And the
Speaker 5: about three episodes in, I got a letter or Instagram
Speaker 5: message from a guy in New York City. I've told
Speaker 5: this story several times, but it's just so meaningful to
Speaker 5: me that I always think about it. But he said,
Speaker 5: you know, I live in New York City and I
Speaker 5: have never hunted or fished. My dad never took me
Speaker 5: hunting or fishing. When you're dad was taking you, he said,
Speaker 5: But my dad was taking me to Yankee Stadium towards
Speaker 5: the Yankees play, he said. And it's I relate to
Speaker 5: what you're doing because I was with my dad or
Speaker 5: my family members doing the same thing. And that's he said,
Speaker 5: your your show is really good and I like it,
Speaker 5: and I thought, why in the world with this guy
Speaker 5: like that? But then I figured it out, Well, it's
Speaker 5: about the show that I'm doing is about relationships. And
Speaker 5: when I when I had that focus, everything became real
Speaker 5: easy for me to do. Then it could be a
Speaker 5: story about anything, you know, it's just the relationship with
Speaker 5: a place, or a person or a thing, even you know,
Speaker 5: a case pocket knife, which has been a tangible object
Speaker 5: in my family's legacy and history that started with my
Speaker 5: great grandfather that's carried on now and it's something that
Speaker 5: everyone in my family can is a fan of and
Speaker 5: appreciates because of the history of you know, our family
Speaker 5: with it just a simple thing as a as a
Speaker 5: pocket knife, but it's just it's something that connects all
Speaker 5: of us, even to the folks that have gone before.
Speaker 5: Like I never knew my great grandfather, but I got
Speaker 5: a pretty good idea of when he needed a pocket knife,
Speaker 5: where he was reaching forward and what he was breaking out,
Speaker 5: So that that's been real meaningful for me.
Speaker 1: I like that that you got it narrow down and
Speaker 1: it's about relationships. I remember at a point trying to
Speaker 1: think of all the stuff I've done and written about
Speaker 1: and all that like through a career. I was like,
Speaker 1: how do you would you define it? And I thought, well,
Speaker 1: I guess I would define it like like I explore
Speaker 1: and have explored human relationships to nature. Sure right, yeah,
Speaker 1: from the perspective of a hunter, perspective of biologists, whatever, whatever.
Speaker 1: It's always been like most of my stuff, there's people.
Speaker 1: This is why, hey, ann are I'm opposed to that
Speaker 1: poll because there's nobody there. Because there was no people.
Speaker 1: I asked myself, why do I hate that pole, the
Speaker 1: South Pole, because it's got the nature but not the people.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, my wife and little girl and I
Speaker 5: we went out to Bradford, Pennsylvania to the case factory
Speaker 5: three weeks ago, and I thought I need to since
Speaker 5: I've always carried pocketknives, I wanted to carry something out
Speaker 5: there that meant something to me and that might mean
Speaker 5: something to them. So I found a pocket knife that
Speaker 5: I had setting up on a chef that I give
Speaker 5: it the first pocket knife I ever bought with my
Speaker 5: own money, and I gave it to my dad as
Speaker 5: a president in nineteen seventy nine and when he passed away,
Speaker 5: I got that back. So I thought, I want to
Speaker 5: take something with me that will that means something. So
Speaker 5: and I always carry twupocket knife, so I was trying
Speaker 5: to figure out what's the other pocket knife I would take.
Speaker 5: And last year when someone arbitrarily sent the case folks
Speaker 5: my podcast of the things that carry in my pocket,
Speaker 5: and those guys appreciated it. Wy, those guys appreciated and
Speaker 5: they sent me. Guy sent me a pocket knife and
Speaker 5: on a case knife, you know it's got the tang
Speaker 5: stamp on there, and you can tell what date it
Speaker 5: was manufactured that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know what you're talking about it. I know
Speaker 1: I told you that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it'll tell you the year and what year
Speaker 5: it was manufactured a decade in the year. So I thought, well,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take that one, the first one that they
Speaker 5: sent me for a token of their appreciation of, you know,
Speaker 5: my family's history with it. So we go out there
Speaker 5: and when they're taking my wife Alexis and my daughter
Speaker 5: Bailey and I on this tour of the factory, in
Speaker 5: the first place we stopped the plant manager, the production
Speaker 5: manager said, this guy over here is he's doing he's
Speaker 5: weld in the first part of the pocket knife together.
Speaker 5: He said, he's been doing this fifty one years, this
Speaker 5: job right here in this case factory, and I'm doing
Speaker 5: math in my head and I go so I reached
Speaker 5: in my pocket and I pulled out this knife and
Speaker 5: I go over there in a medium and I said,
Speaker 5: mister Dave, would you have worked on this knife? And
Speaker 5: I handed to him and he opened it up and
Speaker 5: looked at it and he said, oh, yeah, I worked
Speaker 5: on it.
Speaker 1: Now and.
Speaker 5: Handed it back to him, and I stuck in my
Speaker 5: pocket and I started telling him the story of me
Speaker 5: buying it and give it to my dad, my dad
Speaker 5: passing away, and me getting it back. And I got
Speaker 5: about halfway through that, my wife said, here, let me
Speaker 5: help you tell the rest of this, because it was
Speaker 5: just a pretty emotional moment, you know, for that thing
Speaker 5: to have gone full circle, yeah, and beyond full circle really,
Speaker 5: because I gave it to him, I got it back
Speaker 5: when he passed away, and then I took it back
Speaker 5: to where it was built. So it was that that
Speaker 5: is the true representation I think of what my show
Speaker 5: is and ship for sure.
Speaker 1: You know collisions, yep.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just life collisions. I was telling Kren about one
Speaker 5: the other day, a collision that I'm looking forward to having. Yeah,
Speaker 5: if I could never catch this guy that is stealing
Speaker 5: my fish. You have fished on my brother and I
Speaker 5: have have been putting we.
Speaker 1: Eat a commercial.
Speaker 2: It sounds like a bear Grease episode.
Speaker 5: Now, yeah, I hope this guy. I'm sure this guy
Speaker 5: doesn't doesn't listen to anything. But my brother and I
Speaker 5: have commercial fishing licenses and we fish nets on a
Speaker 5: big Arkansas river. I'm not going to say which one
Speaker 5: it is, but it is a big Arkansas river.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 5: And when we put these nets out, there's sometimes there's
Speaker 5: people around. Sometimes you can see if the water's up
Speaker 5: where we have them anchor to the bank.
Speaker 1: Uh, you can't see the strings.
Speaker 5: But as the dams operate and there the rivers coming
Speaker 5: up and down there, they're either generating power downstream and
Speaker 5: they need water, you know, the river level will go
Speaker 5: up and down, and then sometimes you can see the
Speaker 5: strings that hold our nets well as as locks. Keep honest,
Speaker 5: people honest. If a few see If you're a fisherman
Speaker 5: and you hook one of these nets, and you hook
Speaker 5: or you see one of these lines, you're supposed to
Speaker 5: just leave it alone. Some folks don't do that. So
Speaker 5: we had some guys stealing. There they leave and there
Speaker 5: they're they're running our nets, keeping our fish, and but
Speaker 5: they leave our nets back out.
Speaker 1: I guess, so we can catch some more for them.
Speaker 1: So I was telling what.
Speaker 2: They do with the nets. They're too lazy to set
Speaker 2: on themselves, exactly.
Speaker 1: So I was telling Karen about this the other things.
Speaker 5: She said, Oh my gosh, this is a here's a
Speaker 5: here's a here's a moment right here we need to
Speaker 5: take advantage of. So the good folks at Moultrie and
Speaker 5: I are fixing to lay a trap for.
Speaker 1: Him, advertising the trap right now. Oh yeah, but they don't.
Speaker 1: They don't listen. It's going to be good. I wish
Speaker 1: I could tell you the best forward I ever heard
Speaker 1: in my whole life, but I'll never tell you. Okay,
Speaker 1: why not, I'll never tell you. Okay, this is pretaining
Speaker 1: to fish. If we all, if we start working together
Speaker 1: and ten years goes by, you come ask me. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's a statue. Limitations. Keep it up, man. I hope
Speaker 1: you catch those guys. Oh I do too, me too.
Speaker 1: You can do something bad to them.
Speaker 5: Oh no, no, nothing like that. Shame them absolutely on.
Speaker 5: You canna shoot at him right? Oh no, it's no,
Speaker 5: that's that's pretty serious.
Speaker 1: Unch them or nothing.
Speaker 5: No, no, no that. I just want to catch them,
Speaker 5: just want to let them know I know what you're doing.
Speaker 5: Sometimes that's the like the old farmer that caught me
Speaker 5: and my partner stealing watermelons out of his watermelon patch
Speaker 5: when we were in high school. He caught us dead
Speaker 5: the rights and I learned that night that my friend,
Speaker 5: who was six to two could jump a five strand
Speaker 5: babo our fence in one one leap, and I could
Speaker 5: jump four of them.
Speaker 1: We had to go. Do you know there's a is
Speaker 1: there a melon called the brad This is the last
Speaker 1: sound I say, the Bradbury Melon.
Speaker 7: I got a check for that right now.
Speaker 1: I'm nothing familiar with that.
Speaker 2: I'm not either.
Speaker 1: Uh, there's a melon.
Speaker 7: Brad Bradford watermelon, the Bradford melon. Oh yeah, the heirloom
Speaker 7: Bradford water.
Speaker 1: There used to be watermelon wars and melon theft was
Speaker 1: so bad in the American South. The people were lace
Speaker 1: and watermelons was strict. Nine people were going out. They
Speaker 1: were so fed up with watermelon theft. They were rigging explosives.
Speaker 1: What on watermelon? Well, here's was this type in.
Speaker 7: It looks like it's like an elongated Bradford watermelon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want listeners. No, this is all bonus material
Speaker 1: right here. Mm hmm.
Speaker 7: It looks like a foot and a half long. It's
Speaker 7: like long and skinny.
Speaker 1: Listen for a second.
Speaker 10: This is the saga return of the legendary melon, the
Speaker 10: Bradford watermelon. There's a problem with watermelons. A watermelon cross
Speaker 10: with any cord, cucumber, pumpkin, other melon or squash in
Speaker 10: the vicinity, so you have to keep a mile apart
Speaker 10: from any other vegetable, or else it will form vegetable mongrels.
Speaker 1: Anyways, goes out and telling the story of the Bradford Melon.
Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite videos now watermelon theft. But
Speaker 1: I never met a watermelon thief talking about you, I
Speaker 1: thought it was all bs. I was unsuccessful. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: you're lucky he didn't rig dynamite underneath. Oh yeah, what
Speaker 1: he did was he we'd Actually, I take that back.
Speaker 1: I was successful.
Speaker 5: Just the night before we went and got one and
Speaker 5: it was really good, and we raised watermelons at home.
Speaker 5: I could have gone out there and got them. But
Speaker 5: there was just a little more excitement to it to
Speaker 5: be running around uptown with your friends and like, ah,
Speaker 5: we'll go get you a watermelon, and everybody, I'll wait
Speaker 5: right here at the parking lot.
Speaker 1: We'll be back.
Speaker 5: So we go out there the second night, and then
Speaker 5: under this night light in front of the barn, this
Speaker 5: humongous watermelon and I don't remember seeing the night before,
Speaker 5: but I mean, it's a target of opportunity, So we're going,
Speaker 5: so we go. When we pick it up, my buddy
Speaker 5: picks it up, and we start walking back across the fence,
Speaker 5: and I turned around and somebody whistles real loud, and
Speaker 5: I turn around looking there's you can see the glow
Speaker 5: of a cigarette in the hall of that barn. That's
Speaker 5: all you see is a big glow, red glow. Somebody
Speaker 5: smoking a cigarette.
Speaker 1: That's the owner of the watermelon.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And the next thing we heard was a shotgun boom.
Speaker 1: What happened to the watermelon, I don't know. It could
Speaker 1: have been made out of plastic, I don't know.
Speaker 5: But when we headed to the fence, when I finally
Speaker 5: got through it, my buddy sounded like a typewriter going
Speaker 5: down that gravel road in front of me, just out
Speaker 5: of sight.
Speaker 1: But I grew up not terribly fire from my wife
Speaker 1: and uh sometimes I'll tell her things and she's like,
Speaker 1: you know, and I was telling her about I said, yay,
Speaker 1: if you get a watermelon, know you put it in
Speaker 1: the creek and cool it off or the creek. She's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, you stand out. Yeah, like how was
Speaker 1: this all occurring? Like so close together? But just like
Speaker 1: stuff I have, Like my wife used to like, all right,
Speaker 1: take that watermelon sink in the creek. She asked me,
Speaker 1: She said, did you grow up on the little house
Speaker 1: on the All right, thanks for.
Speaker 6: Coming on, Hansei, Yeah, thank you, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: I think people are thoroughly titillated. Hope so well, yeah,
Speaker 1: stay tuned for rough cuts coming out and that video
Speaker 1: I just played from the mind of a chef, but
Speaker 1: this is from the mind to Hansey.
Speaker 6: No, yeah, that's that's good. But it's yeah, it's a
Speaker 6: good team effort. We've it's been in a pretty huge collaboration.
Speaker 6: So mind mind of post production, find of mind of
Speaker 6: Steve slash.
Speaker 1: Post You're like someone receiving an oscar, so much experience
Speaker 1: than all the people pull out my list, all right,
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on, man Hey, thanks, appreciate it.