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Speaker 3: All right, So guys today, you know, we uh, we

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Speaker 3: have week zero in the books for college football, not

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Speaker 3: a whole lot to talk about. Obviously there we did

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Speaker 3: have Florida State losing yesterday to Georgia Tech in Dublin, Ireland.

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Speaker 3: And to me that was more of a case of

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Speaker 3: a lot of teams or a lot of people slightly

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Speaker 3: overrating Florida State based on what they did a year ago.

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Speaker 3: Of course, a devastating finishes there's season. But dj Uyong

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Speaker 3: la Lay was brought in from Oregon State previously obviously

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Speaker 3: at Clemson they thought well, maybe he's going to continue on,

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Speaker 3: you know, with a you know, better than average offense.

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Speaker 3: That we saw a year ago from the Seminoles did

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Speaker 3: not show up in that first game. They were dominated

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Speaker 3: on the line of scrimmage by Georgia Tech. So no

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Speaker 3: college football really to talk about. We got a week

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Speaker 3: going off. Yeah, let's stop down there for one second.

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Speaker 4: Well, but I.

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Speaker 2: Will say this, this is.

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Speaker 5: A problem for college football or should they the NC

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Speaker 5: double A in general if they want to make Week

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Speaker 5: zero more exciting and more interesting. I get it, it's

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Speaker 5: week zero and there is literally nothing else going on

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Speaker 5: starters have been resting.

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Speaker 2: But when you look at what happened, that is a tenth.

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Speaker 5: Ranked losing to an unranked on the road in a

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Speaker 5: different country, there's just a couple of check against that

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Speaker 5: week now, a traveling internationally if you're a ranked team,

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Speaker 5: last times we see that for a while, outside of

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Speaker 2: Then two week zero.

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Speaker 5: Nobody wants to play good competition week zero. So Georgia Tech,

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Speaker 5: I mean, say what you will about them, but Georgia

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Speaker 5: Tech was ready for that game. Florida State, I don't

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Speaker 5: even want to say they weren't ready, but Georgia Tech

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Speaker 5: easier time defending them because he has a hard time

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Speaker 5: when there's a little rust to knock off still, and

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Speaker 5: they had a blitz plan that worked. They were consistently

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Speaker 5: getting hands in his face and man, week zero, it

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Speaker 5: becomes treachery if you're a ranked team. So unfortunately for

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Speaker 5: the NC Double A, there's not gonna be a lot

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Speaker 2: Wanting to sign their team up for that.

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Speaker 3: Well, and Florida State, by the way, we'll come back

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Speaker 3: from the previous year. So TCU had this incredible year.

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Speaker 3: Week one, come, I mean week one college football. We

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Speaker 3: really think we need to do today, Rich is get

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Speaker 4: And I want everybody on the record.

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Speaker 3: I didn't tell you. I am on the record. So

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Speaker 4: John Palm Moros he'll be joining us as Oh.

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Speaker 3: He's got a lot of baseball news coming up as

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Speaker 4: But today our focus is going to be on the AFC.

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Speaker 3: And I cannot wait for this because, as I said,

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Speaker 3: bit of detail. Now, one thing we do know, Rich,

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Speaker 3: Tuesday is the day that the rosters have to be

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Speaker 3: at fifty three, right, so fifty three man ross and

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Speaker 2: We talking about winning the division or win to no?

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Speaker 3: We're going to predict who's going to win the division,

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Speaker 3: any wild cards are going to come out of each division. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so we're going full on record here today. I wish

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Speaker 3: win total, division winners, wild cards, the whole shebang. All right,

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Speaker 3: we won't get to the playoffs, just regular season. Okay,

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, because the NFL continuously pumps out landscape shifting

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Speaker 2: Point we are on the calendar.

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Speaker 5: In the off season, it's trades and free agent acquisitions,

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Speaker 5: The off season is full of that stuff, But so

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Speaker 5: is the regular season, right, so is the regular season.

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Speaker 5: You have injury news weekly. Those updates are insanely important

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Speaker 5: if you're a fan of a team or if you're

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Speaker 5: a fantasy football owner. So yeah, I do think between

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Speaker 3: Have some work to do, and the forty nine Ers

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Speaker 3: I mean there's yeah, there's still some contract the nag.

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Speaker 4: Lane right now.

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Speaker 3: When we talk about salary cap I've said this many times.

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Speaker 3: Topologists are a prerequisite. They are so important to these

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Speaker 3: far as these numbers are concerned. And you got certain

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Speaker 3: has a big impact because when we talk fifty three

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Speaker 4: How many players do you activate each week?

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Speaker 2: And look, he's doing what he should do.

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Speaker 5: He's doing I mean frankly, and a lot of people

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Speaker 2: But brand Ayuk is doing exactly what he should.

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Speaker 5: it because it's such a short earning window window now

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Speaker 5: because the San Francisco forty nine ers have benefited more

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Speaker 5: Because when you look at comparable salaries, there are guys

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Speaker 5: That's the whole game. You have to earn as much

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Speaker 5: exerting that leverage, soo as Trent Williams, and I frankly

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Speaker 5: of have the golden ticket right now with Kyle Shanahan

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Speaker 2: That's a good group there.

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Speaker 5: They have a real shot of competing with the Chiefs

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Speaker 5: and that's a big if right now.

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Speaker 5: Do we think that Shoheio Tani memorabilia is going to

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Speaker 9: My gosh, Like that's like saying who is a better

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Speaker 9: rehabbing your arm and trying to get your body back

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Speaker 9: and pitching shape for twenty twenty five, it'd be easy

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Speaker 9: for him to say to Dave Roberts Listen, I don't

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Speaker 9: want to run as much this year. I want to

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Speaker 9: kind of ease into it, and only when it really

444
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Speaker 9: matters do I want to steal the base. It's the opposite.

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Speaker 9: He's going for it. I mean, the accelerator is down.

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Speaker 9: I mean he's just he's rolling. And I think that

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Speaker 9: to me Rich and Steve that when you see athletes

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Speaker 9: who have so much at stake, who are just going

449
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Speaker 9: for it and and and laying it all out there

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Speaker 9: and put their body on the line, I think that's

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Speaker 9: just so it's so appealing and honestly inspiring as as

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Speaker 9: fans to see players do that. So, man, there are

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Speaker 9: no wrong answers. That as a heck of a question

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Speaker 9: that I'm not to think about all week.

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Speaker 5: Long when when I look at the standings, and we

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Speaker 5: did this last week JP, but in the opposite direction,

457
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Speaker 5: we talked about some of the teams that we should

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Speaker 5: spotlight that are getting hot in the second half that

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Speaker 5: can make some noise in the postseason. Is there any

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Speaker 5: team that you see as a division leader or maybe

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Speaker 5: just second place right now, maybe maybe high in the

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Speaker 5: wildcard race, whatever it may be, that that you don't

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Speaker 5: really believe they've they've got what it takes to make

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Speaker 5: the deep run or potentially could tap out here some

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Speaker 5: point in the before the end of the regular season.

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Speaker 9: Well, I'm looking a lot at the American League Central

467
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Speaker 9: race and and Cleveland has kind of come back down

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Speaker 9: to the pack a little bit in recent days, and

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Speaker 9: that right now is the best three team race we've

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Speaker 9: got going to Major League Baseball. I know we've talked

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Speaker 9: before about the West Division, but the Guardians have just

472
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Speaker 9: a two game lead now on the Royals and Twins,

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Speaker 9: who are tied for second. So you've got three teams

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Speaker 9: that are with all within two games of the division lead.

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Speaker 9: Nowhere else in baseball is that true as of this moment.

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Speaker 9: So I think that, to me is the one I'm

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Speaker 9: watching the most carefully. That's probably going to go down

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Speaker 9: to the final weekend of the season as you're trying

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Speaker 9: to figure out who might win the division there. And

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Speaker 9: the Guardians have had to really go to their pen

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Speaker 9: a lot in the last little while. They've really had

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Speaker 9: to play a lot of close, high leverage games. And

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Speaker 9: so when you look at Kansas City and what their

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Speaker 9: schedule has, it's interesting they end the year the Royals

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Speaker 9: do with six games on the road at the Nationals

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Speaker 9: at the Braves. That last weekend KSE at Atlanta is

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Speaker 9: going to be great because I think those games are

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Speaker 9: going to be really, really significant for both the Royals

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Speaker 9: and the Braves. The Braves trying to hold off the

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Speaker 9: the Mets and maybe even the Giants right now in

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Speaker 9: the National League wildcard picture. So I do think it's

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Speaker 9: to me. I'm watching very carefully to see can the

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Speaker 9: Guardians find a way to re establish the momentum. They're

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Speaker 9: just two and six and their last eight games a

495
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Speaker 9: lot of close losses. And again they finished their year

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Speaker 9: the Guardians with a home series against the Astros. They're

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Speaker 9: the twenty seven, twenty eighth, twenty nine. That should be

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Speaker 9: a lot of fun there the final weekend of the season.

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Speaker 3: No, we got a lot of things to talk about

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Speaker 3: over the baseball well, the finish of this twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: four season history on the line. Great stuff is always.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much, JP, and we will do it again

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Speaker 3: next week.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 9: Sounds very guys want some college football games to talk

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Speaker 9: about next weekend, which I wish. I can't wait. I

507
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Speaker 9: know Rich Rich's team just barely ranked ahead of Michigan.

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Speaker 9: They're the eighth rank Nitni Lions. I think they're going

509
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Speaker 9: to find their way into the playoff too. We'll see

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Speaker 9: what's the aut all plays out.

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Speaker 4: By the way, include me in on this Big Ten conversation.

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Speaker 9: I am a yes, no understanding. He see. I believe

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Speaker 9: according to some late breaking news from the from the

514
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Speaker 9: Big Ten media day, UCLA is in Los Angeles. I

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Speaker 9: believe that week.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: Yes, our coach made that clear that we are in

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Speaker 3: LA and so, by the way, is USC just in

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Speaker 3: case you need that reference, JV.

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Speaker 4: Great stuff. We talking next week.

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Speaker 9: Thanks so much.

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Speaker 3: That is the great John Paul Morosi there. All right,

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Speaker 3: let's find out what's trending right now. And Martin jumping

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Speaker 3: into the mix today.

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Speaker 4: Martin, now are you I can't hear you. I'll try

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Speaker 4: this again. That's over.

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Speaker 10: You're like me.

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Speaker 4: You're doing what I did to start the show today.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it that we're doing it full acknowledgment.

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Speaker 11: Dull. Well, how you doing.

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Speaker 4: We're good man. We're going to get into the rest

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Speaker 4: of the show.

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Speaker 3: Is AFC football, man, We have got AFC on our

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Speaker 3: minds today.

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Speaker 11: Well, I'm ready to talk about it.

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Speaker 12: Speaking of the AFC, this may impact your AFC conversation. Bengals,

537
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Speaker 12: our receiver jamar Cha practice today. This is his first practice.

538
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Speaker 12: He's in search of a new contract, obviously from the

539
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Speaker 12: Cincinnati Bengals, but out there on the field the Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 12: I can't imagine this will impact to you or AFC conversation, Steve,

541
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Speaker 12: but the Dolphins are releasing quarterback Mike White.

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Speaker 11: Skyler Thompson will be the backup for two. A tongue

543
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Speaker 11: by low.

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Speaker 12: Other Rams have grant through starting linebacker Ernest Jones permission

545
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Speaker 12: to seek a trade. Jones was the Rams leading tackler

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Speaker 12: last season. This is the final year of his contract.

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Speaker 12: Jacksonville released wide receiver Denzel Mems. In Major League Baseball,

548
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Speaker 12: the Nationals have a one nothing lead over the Braves

549
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Speaker 12: in the top of the sixth inning. The one run

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Speaker 12: earned on Braves pitcher Ronaldo Lopez. He's got six strikeouts,

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Speaker 12: three hit, giving up three hits and three walks. Again,

552
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 12: through that sixth innings so far, Ace is in the sky.

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Speaker 12: At the start of the fourth quarter in Chicago, the

554
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Speaker 12: Aces with a I'm sorry TDD fifty two to fifty two.

555
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Speaker 12: Angel Wilson has eighteen points sixteen rebounds so far. She

556
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Speaker 12: had a double double at the half, Angel Rees closing

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Speaker 12: in on once. She's got seven points right now, thirteen rebounds,

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Speaker 12: Kennedy Carter leading the sky with nineteen points, and Steve

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Speaker 12: I don't know if this would impact your AFC conversation.

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Speaker 4: It may, though.

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Speaker 12: Some of the Chargers players were stuck in an elevator

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Speaker 12: last night in a Dallas hotel. Here's what some of

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Speaker 12: what coach Jim Harbough had to say after the fact.

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Speaker 11: And he was asked about it.

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Speaker 12: He said, as each person came off the elevator sweating,

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Speaker 12: some had their shirt offs, justin Herbert. His hair was

567
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Speaker 12: a little wet, but his shirt was completely dry. That

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Speaker 12: blew me away. He also went on to say that

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Speaker 12: Herbert is a leader, He's a rock kept everybody calm,

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Speaker 12: so Herbert apparently does not body sweat.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that impacts your outlook on the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: That is an interesting twist. I did hear about that,

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Speaker 3: and apparently Dan Foutz's his wife, Yes, Jerry was on

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Speaker 3: that elevator. I felt sorry for her that she was

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Speaker 3: on that elevator with a lot of sweaty guys, and

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Speaker 3: the fact that he stayed dry was much to her relief.

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Speaker 4: Thank goodness he was there.

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Speaker 12: That it's one less sweaty guy because if I don't know,

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Speaker 12: I think if Rich was on the elevator sweating too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no doubt about, no question about it.

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Speaker 5: In fact, I don't trust Amanda's and swept sweat from

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Speaker 5: his body chargers three and fourteen this year.

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Speaker 12: I mean, Rich, you gotta ask the question, right, yeah,

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Speaker 12: you gotta ask the question.

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Speaker 4: I mean a headband I get could take care of

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Speaker 4: the hair. Sure, I mean this is a quarterback. I

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Speaker 4: mean he just doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Also say he doesn't he doesn't get over. He worked

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Speaker 3: up about the situation. And by the way, Jim.

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Speaker 4: Harbaugh said that Herbert was like a leader.

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Speaker 3: He took a leadership role in this operation to extract

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Speaker 3: these people out of the elevator, showing great leadership. What

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Speaker 3: do you think of the leadership role looks like?

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Speaker 4: Is it like?

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Speaker 11: No, no, no, I'll be the guy that pressed the

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Speaker 11: firefire to button. I got it.

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Speaker 4: Don't worry.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Martin, thank you very very much. By

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Speaker 3: the way, speaking of sweating, a very sad note, and.

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Speaker 4: Coach Joe D. Passed away.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that.

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Speaker 3: So this if you don't know this, Raven's offensive line

603
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Speaker 3: coach Joe di Alessandras who everyone just knew his coach

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Speaker 3: Joe D. For a time was with the Chargers organization.

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Speaker 3: He was your coach for a while. He was known

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Speaker 3: for sweating by the way coach Joe D. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: just a couple of weeks ago he was hospitalized due

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Speaker 3: to what they had called an acute illness and he

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Speaker 3: has passed away at the all too early age of

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Speaker 3: just seventy.

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Speaker 4: And he was a special guy. I know how much

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Speaker 4: he loved him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he and he was a special guy.

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Speaker 5: He had a special brand of energy and charisma and

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Speaker 5: enthusiasm that he brought to every day of work.

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Speaker 2: And he was seventy.

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Speaker 5: But I promise you all the players in Baltimore, when

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Speaker 5: I met him about ten years ago in San Diego,

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Speaker 5: you wouldn't be able to guess his age because he'd

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Speaker 5: outworked everyone. Yeah, he was a high energy person. He

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Speaker 5: had a great love for the game and an admiration

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Speaker 5: for his players that I think is important.

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Speaker 2: Players.

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Speaker 5: They'll they will literally break their backs for you if

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Speaker 5: they believe that you love them and there was no

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Speaker 5: question Joe D loved all of us, and I love

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Speaker 5: Joe D. And my heart breaks for his family because

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Speaker 5: they just lost a tremendous man.

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Speaker 2: And a great coach. And it's a sad day.

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Speaker 5: I hated hearing the news and I just wish the

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Speaker 5: best of all of those who love them. But this

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00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 5: is what this game is made of. It's made of

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Speaker 5: a lot of people who largely work behind the scenes,

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Speaker 5: who you will never read about unless it's an obituary,

635
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Speaker 5: and you won't understand their impact. But that guy had

636
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Speaker 5: a tremendous impact on many teams throughout his great career

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Speaker 5: as an assistant coach. Some of those Buffalo Bills offensive

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Speaker 5: lines with Josh Allen, the Chargers, as I mentioned, these

639
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Speaker 5: recent Baltimore Ravens teams benefited from his great knowledge of

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Speaker 5: the game and, like I said, in that boundless energy

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Speaker 5: that he coached with.

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Speaker 2: So rest in peace, Jod.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone will say the same thing as you said.

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Speaker 3: He was a player coach, and when you have that

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Speaker 3: kind of bomb with your players, when they believe in

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Speaker 3: the sincerity of your commitment to them, they will follow.

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Speaker 3: He was a leader and he will be missed, all right.

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Speaker 3: On the other side, We're going to get it started, folks.

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Speaker 3: If you're ready to find out our thoughts on how

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Speaker 3: the AFC is going to play out for the twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty four season, Buckle up. This is Fox Sports Sunday,

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Speaker 3: Steve Harbin, Rich Ornberger, Fox Sports Sunday. We are live

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Speaker 3: from the tire Raq dot Com studios.

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Speaker 4: All right, it's time to get.

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Speaker 3: Serious now, guys, as we get ready for this twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty four NFL season. We really have an open Sunday time.

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Speaker 3: We have an open Sunday next week. After that, all

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Speaker 3: bring you up to date on every single game stat

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Speaker 3: the whole shebang.

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Speaker 4: Once we get to that football. So yeah, a lot

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Speaker 4: of football for a lot of football.

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Speaker 3: So let's start breaking down the AFC today, guys, and

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Speaker 3: let's get the big team out of the way first,

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Speaker 3: and that is your two time defending champion Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: They are the ninth team to win back to back

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Speaker 3: Super Bowls known as won three in a row. Personally,

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Speaker 3: I think the Chiefs are in better shape to do

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Speaker 3: so than any other team. As you guys are ready

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Speaker 3: to start the show today, I was knee deep into

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Speaker 3: the update status on Marquise Hollywood Brown, who.

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Speaker 4: They signed in the offseason.

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Speaker 3: The former first round pick of the Ravens spent the

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Speaker 3: last couple of forgettable years in Arizona trying to figure

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Speaker 3: out what kind of impact he could have on this

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Speaker 3: team when he's healthy. At an injury in the first

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Speaker 3: preseason game. I'll just say this about the Chiefs again.

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Speaker 3: They opened up over under at eleven and a half,

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Speaker 3: which is where they were a year ago. I see

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Speaker 3: this team right now as better. They struggled offensively for

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Speaker 3: much of last season, caught fire at the end. And

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Speaker 3: we're not talking postseason, We're just talking regular season. This

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Speaker 3: is a team that has won what eight straight division titles,

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Speaker 3: six straight trips to the AFC Championship Game. They've been

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Speaker 3: in four of the last five Super Bowls, and they've

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Speaker 3: won three Super Bowls. So they have completely dominated and

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Speaker 3: I don't see any let up right now. I'm going

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Speaker 3: to give you a Chiefs win the AFC West, and

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Speaker 3: they'll do so with a thirteen win season thirteen and four.

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Speaker 3: I think the Chiefs have really separated themselves from the

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Speaker 3: rest of the pack in the AFC West.

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Speaker 4: That's where I stay rich.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna take the Chiefs as well, for obvious reasons,

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Speaker 5: and not to repeat anything, I'll just add as long

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Speaker 5: as Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce are

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Speaker 5: on this team, I don't see anybody knocking them off

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Speaker 5: as a super Bowl favorite in my book. Now, no,

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Speaker 5: there are other sports books that disagree, But in my book,

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Speaker 5: this is the favorite.

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Speaker 2: To win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: So I'm gonna go ahead and put them down for

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Speaker 5: the same number of wins. I think that this division

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Speaker 5: probably could be one with twelve wins. I don't really

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Speaker 5: see anybody eclipsing eleven win mark behind them, unless you know,

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Speaker 5: maybe Bo Nicks is the truth and Denver has found

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Speaker 5: their franchise quarterback from now on.

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Speaker 2: But but yeah, I'm.

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Speaker 5: Gonna say that the Chiefs win their division. They HAVEC

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Speaker 5: West with their team wins as well.

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Speaker 3: All right, so he has thirteen wins. Well you're up next.

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Speaker 3: Where do you see the Chiefs going this year?

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Speaker 10: Well, you know, Steve, with the Chiefs and the AFC

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Speaker 10: West in general, there's a lot of bad blood in

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Speaker 10: that division. Those teams don't like each other, but those

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Speaker 10: other teams just seem to shake it off, get over it. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: it's been a cruel summer for everybody. But the Chiefs

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Speaker 10: feels like in that division. Sure, yeah, they just know

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Speaker 10: all too well how to win. So I think I'm

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Speaker 10: gonna take the Chiefs too. It's boring, but yeah, I

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Speaker 10: think the Chiefs are gonna win twelve thirteen games this year.

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Speaker 3: Well, no, no, no, you got to give us a number.

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Speaker 3: There's no such thing as twelve.

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Speaker 11: Thirteen.

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Speaker 10: Thirteen is such a big number. It is a big yeah,

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Speaker 10: So I'll go twelve and split the difference here. I'm

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Speaker 10: gonna say they weren't twelve.

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Speaker 4: Going with twelve wins, Chris, what do you got for

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Speaker 4: the Chiefs?

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Speaker 13: I'm going twelve wins, mostly just because of the schedule

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Speaker 13: they have to play. You know, when you're in first,

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Speaker 13: you always have to play the toughest schedules. You get

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Speaker 13: the Ravens out of the gate, which is no bueno.

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Speaker 13: But you're leaving out as something in that this Boe

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Speaker 13: was talking about how a lot of other teams this

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Speaker 13: division went rough. But what's not fair is this rookie

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Speaker 13: class that the Chiefs have. You you were talking about

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Speaker 13: Hollywood Brown, you should be paying attention to rookie Zavi

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Speaker 13: You're worthy. Yeah, like that is an absolute weapon for them.

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Speaker 13: They added help on the offensive line with Kingsley Suamataya,

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Speaker 13: like the apparently this UCLA kid Carson Steele is looking

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Speaker 13: really good in preseason for them. We're still talking about

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Speaker 13: their defense and they still you want to talk about

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Speaker 13: someone else who's a part of that secret sauce, Steve

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Speaker 13: Spagnolo whatever he brews up on defense, Like, forget about it.

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Speaker 13: They won that game because they won that Super Bowl

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Speaker 13: because of Spags. By the way, I was on a

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Speaker 13: twelve wins twelve wins.

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Speaker 4: Al right, so Bo and Chris go at twelve, Rich

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Speaker 4: and I have thirteen.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing, you know, the thing about the Chiefs is, yeah,

751
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Speaker 3: they won these Super Bowls, but it's not like they've

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Speaker 3: been blowing out people. I mean, they want overtime to

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Speaker 3: beat the forty nine ers, right, I mean, so you know,

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Speaker 3: and that's the difference in having Patrick Mahomes as your quarterback.

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Speaker 3: That's as simple as that, Just like it was with

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Speaker 3: Tom Brady. You know, outside of their dominating went over

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Speaker 3: the Rams, the other five Super Bowl wins for Brady

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Speaker 3: with the Patriots were close games. What was the difference,

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Speaker 3: Tom Brady? And so that is the difference. But again

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Speaker 3: we're unanimous. The Chiefs will win the AFC West. All Right,

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Speaker 3: We're gonna do a lot more on the AFC West

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Speaker 3: on the other side. But let's get to the next

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Speaker 3: team and to just go alphabetically city wise, and next

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Speaker 3: up would be the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, And I'm going.

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Speaker 3: To start this off by saying that I am on

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Speaker 3: the record and have been on the record for several

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Speaker 3: weeks now that bo Knicks is going to have the

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Speaker 3: best season of any rookie quarterback this year. I think

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Speaker 3: his experience is going to help him as a rookie

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Speaker 3: in this league. I do not say he's going to

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Speaker 3: have the best career, but year one, as he will

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Speaker 3: be the starting quarterback for the Denver Broncos, he will

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Speaker 3: be a difference maker. Sean Payton has figured this out.

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Speaker 3: He's got players that he wants in place. I see

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Speaker 3: the rest of this division is weak. I have the

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Speaker 3: Denver Broncos winning ten games this year. They won eight

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Speaker 3: a year ago. They win ten games and they will

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Speaker 3: be a wild hard team.

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Speaker 5: Rich Okay, I have them down as a five hundred

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Speaker 5: football team. I'm gonna say they are an eight and

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Speaker 5: nine football team. I mean, if you look at their

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Speaker 5: first six games alone, you just you just say to yourself, well,

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Speaker 5: there's there's no way that they're gonna win more than

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Speaker 5: three of these. I mean, they're going against Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 5: with the Steelers, Aaron Rodgers with the Jets, Jim Harbaugh,

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Speaker 5: and Justin Herbert with the Chargers in the six game,

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Speaker 5: and then in between there it's the Bucks with Baker

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Speaker 5: Mayfield who can be a wild card, and the Seahawks

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Speaker 5: and then the Raiders are are kind of sprinkled.

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Speaker 2: Throughout those weeks as well.

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Speaker 5: That's kind of the way I see this season going

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Speaker 5: for Bonnicks and Champagne and dever Broncos.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm gonna say eight and nine.

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Speaker 3: N eight and nine, that's no wildcard? How about you?

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Speaker 3: What do you got?

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Speaker 10: Bo? They stink five wins?

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Speaker 4: Five wins?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, head coach in the in the league in Bonicks,

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Speaker 10: I don't care.

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Speaker 3: All right, So Bo Nicks nothing, Sean Payton nothing. Where

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Speaker 3: do you stand here?

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Speaker 13: I think I'm not as high on Bonex as you.

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Speaker 13: I do think it looks pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Out of the gate.

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Speaker 13: I'm and I'm going to go with Rich. I think

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Speaker 13: eight wins. I think there's some promise here. I'm not

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Speaker 13: ready to buy stock yet, but after a couple of weeks,

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Speaker 13: I might be.

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Speaker 4: I might be ready. All right, we're off for money

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Speaker 4: here on the AFC.

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Speaker 3: We're halfway home on the AFC West, North Southeast. We're

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Speaker 3: gonna cover all the teams for our predictions. Keep it

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Speaker 3: right here. This is Fox Sports Sunday, County down to

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Speaker 3: are doing a complete breakdown of what to expect in

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Speaker 3: the AFC for the upcoming twenty twenty four season. We've

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Speaker 3: covered the Chiefs and we've covered the Broncos. As we

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Speaker 3: start with the AFC West. The biggest differential is me

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Speaker 3: and Bow on the Broncos, no question about that. I'm

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Speaker 3: predicting them sneaking in as a wild card at ten

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Speaker 3: and seven. He is predicting a catastrophe, maybe the end

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Speaker 3: of the Sean Payton era with a five and twelve season.

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Speaker 3: Is there something personal bow with you and Sean Payton.

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Speaker 10: Or oh I just I just think you don't like

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Speaker 10: the guy. Well, yeah, he's a little pompous for me,

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Speaker 10: Like I think he's horribly insecure with the Bownicks pick

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Speaker 10: because he's been trying to tell everybody how smart he was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: One thing me and Boki coming back to is this

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Speaker 13: idea that like he's been trying to play this off

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Speaker 13: as like, oh I tricked everyone. I wanted bownixa along,

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Speaker 13: and I tricked everyone and denied the Raiders a quarterback,

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Speaker 13: just like, come off.

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Speaker 10: Not me, not me.

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Speaker 4: I buy into it one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: I was showing the guy's rich A picture I took

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Speaker 3: with Sean Payton the year he was suspended. I was

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Speaker 3: covering the Zurich Golf Classic in New Orleans. He came

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Speaker 3: by and we had a great time there.

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Speaker 4: We were side by side. All right, let's finish off.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't that long ago.

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Speaker 3: The other two teams we'd be talking about would be

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Speaker 3: the Oakland Raiders and.

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Speaker 4: The San Diego Chargers.

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Speaker 3: Now, of course it's the Las Vegas Raiders and the

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Speaker 3: Los Angeles Chargers.

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Speaker 4: Let's start with the Las Vegas Raiders.

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Speaker 3: Antonio appears taken over last year, and I think rightfully

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Speaker 3: so got a thumbs up from the organization to stay

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Speaker 3: on as the head coach. He has made it clear

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Speaker 3: that Gardner Minshew, we'll start the season at least now

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Speaker 3: as the starting quarterback of this team. I was watching

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Speaker 3: the Raiders in a preseason game the other day and

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Speaker 3: they were replaying some of the great highlights in Raiders history.

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Speaker 3: There haven't been a lot of highlights since losing that

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl to Tampa Bay. The Raiders have been in

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Speaker 3: the playoffs exactly twice in the last.

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Speaker 4: Twenty one years and have not won a playoff game.

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Speaker 2: Yu.

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Speaker 3: They have not won a playoff game since winning the

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Speaker 3: AFC Championship game in the two thousand and two season.

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Speaker 4: And they've had a lot of coaches. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 4: looking at a list of coaches.

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Speaker 3: It's endless and this is an organization that really and look.

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Speaker 4: I like.

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Speaker 3: Mark Davis personally. I've known Mark a long time, but

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Speaker 3: he has no clue what he's doing. And this shows

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Speaker 3: with this organization. As much as I'm rooting for Antonio Pierce,

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Speaker 3: I don't see it. I mean, I'm looking at a

877
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 3: Raider team. They have a few good players. Max Crosby

878
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 3: certainly one of those players, but not nearly enough. Raiders

879
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,439
Speaker 3: won eight games last year, they'll win less this year.

880
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 3: I got the Las Vegas wreck Raiders checking in at

881
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 3: seven and ten this year.

882
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 5: Rich we are in lockstep. I think they are a

883
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 5: seven win team all day long, and maybe less than that.

884
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 5: I think they're going to have a drought in the

885
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 5: middle of their season. There's going to be a hard

886
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 5: stretch there, and I think there's gonna be a lot

887
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 5: of chatter about Antonio Pierce's job because they play, They

888
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 5: go on the road to face the Rams, then they

889
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 5: come home to face the Chiefs. They have the Cincinnati

890
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 5: Bengals on the road after that, a bye week, then

891
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 5: they go to Miami. So I mean, I'm looking at

892
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 5: that four game stretch and with Gardner Minshew and very

893
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 5: little else.

894
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 2: To really get excited about.

895
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 5: And by the way, they host the Pittsburgh Steelers before that,

896
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 5: so we'll see what type of team the Pittsburgh Steelers

897
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 5: are by week six.

898
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 2: That defense is considered a world wrecker right now.

899
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 5: So we're looking at a five or six game stretch

900
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 5: for the Raiders where it could get pretty ugly between

901
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 5: week six and week eleven. So yeah, seven wins all

902
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 5: day long. Gardner Minshew named as you starting quarterback essentially

903
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 5: means that you're seeding this season.

904
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: You're saying, hey, look, this is as good as we

905
00:44:59,719 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: can do.

906
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,720
Speaker 4: All right, Bo Rich and I check in with seven

907
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 4: wins for the Silver and Black?

908
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 8: Where are you?

909
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 10: Do? You guys know who the most successful interim head

910
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 10: coaches that was made a full time coach the following year.

911
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:15,959
Speaker 10: It looks like it's Jason Garrett of the Cowboys. Interesting, So, yeah,

912
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 10: it never works. It's not gonna work here. I don't

913
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 10: know why. I thought the Raiders last year were really

914
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 10: funny when they were like smoking cigars because they won

915
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 10: a regular season game. And then you have Raiders fans

916
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 10: turned around be like, yeah, this franchise means something. They're

917
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 10: like a four win team at best.

918
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 4: For me, Wow, just four.

919
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,720
Speaker 10: We're starting Gardner Minshew in a division that has Patrick

920
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 10: Mahomes and Justin Herbert, and then if bo Nix is

921
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 10: any good. He's already the third best quarterback in the division.

922
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 10: So yeah, they're not. They're punting this season, and of

923
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 10: course they're gonna have a higher pack in a draft

924
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 10: where there's not really any quarterbacks to take.

925
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 4: So wow.

926
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 3: So yet five wins for the Broncos only four wins

927
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 3: for the Raiders. It's pretty obvious that both thinks that

928
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 3: the AFC West save the Chiefs sucks.

929
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 4: What do you have, Chris here for the Raiders.

930
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 13: So we have a sheet here in this studio where

931
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 13: we all make our predictions, and one of those teams

932
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 13: is worst team in the NFL. I think we do

933
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 13: have coastal bias sometimes in the NFL, and this is

934
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 13: a case where West Coast bias is absolutely real. Because

935
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 13: I hear from you about rooting for Antonio Pierce. I

936
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 13: heard from plenty of other people who either played with

937
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 13: the guy, who are former players who walk around LA

938
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 13: or know him because of connections for the Raiders. Because

939
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 13: the Raiders out here are still vaunted and celebrated even

940
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 13: though they haven't done anything in thirty damn years, like

941
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 13: a not a mumbling thing. This is an ash of

942
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,240
Speaker 13: a team that somehow I'm still, as a Midwest person

943
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 13: supposed to respect and I have no respect for it.

944
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 13: And I look at this roster right now. You want

945
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 13: to talk about Gardner Minshew, Fine, let's also talk about

946
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 13: what is their run game here? Zamir White, Alexander Madison,

947
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 13: Amir Abdullah, no disrespect a mer Abdulah, love that he's

948
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 13: still getting work, former Detroit Lion. This is a team

949
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 13: that wants to be tough and physical, that does not

950
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 13: really have any chops of the O line. We have

951
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 13: DeVante Adams, but I'm not sure how usable that is.

952
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 13: I keep getting told their defense is good. They have

953
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 13: two guys on defense who are good. I don't know

954
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 13: what they're gonna do in coverage. I look at the

955
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 13: schedule they have to play. I look at this entire team.

956
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 13: I know the vibes are high around the Raiders, but

957
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 13: reality has to face the vibes at some point too.

958
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 13: And as much as they got the buy in, as

959
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 13: much as they had those good vibes, at some point,

960
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 13: there's only so much vibes can do for you. That

961
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 13: talent has to match. This will be the worst team

962
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 13: in the NFL. Two wins in a.

963
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 4: Tie, wow, and I can tell you.

964
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 13: I look at their schedule right now, and I can

965
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 13: tell you they will get a win over Carolina. Not

966
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 13: much else I can look at here. Wow, I have

967
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 13: no I have no clue in my mind while people

968
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 13: look at the Raiders and see anything salvageable here.

969
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 3: Okay, so wow, how about that for our supporting crew, Rich,

970
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 3: I thought we were marsh with seven wins.

971
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 4: They check in with four and two in a tie.

972
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 4: I will give them the tie.

973
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 3: I will give them two and a half two in

974
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 3: a tie right there, all right? So that lays one

975
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 3: other team in the AFC West. By the way, Just

976
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 3: for the record, the Raiders have thirteen coaches in the

977
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 3: last twenty one seasons Dike's thirteen in the last twenty

978
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 3: one seasons. The Los Angeles Chargers have hired Jim Harbaugh.

979
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 3: And I would say that I'm out there about Jim Harbaugh.

980
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 3: He's a great coach and he's proven it everywhere he's

981
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 3: ever been. But I also said the day it was

982
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 3: official that he'd been hired by the Chargers, he's never

983
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 3: faced a bigger challenge than the Spanos curse, which is

984
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 3: the current state of the Chargers organization.

985
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,720
Speaker 4: We've talked about this. I think everyone's in agreement.

986
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 3: First of all, we have to see Justin Herbert actually

987
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 3: take the field, which we didn't do in the preseason.

988
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 3: He's had that foot injury. We're waiting for that to

989
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 3: heal up. But this wide receiver corps is the weakest,

990
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 3: I mean by far in the National Football League. And

991
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 3: no matter how talented your quarterback is, you gotta have

992
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 3: somebody catch the ball and do something with it once

993
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 3: they catch the ball, and I just don't see that

994
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 3: kind of firepower for the Chargers. So you know, this

995
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 3: is a team that's sort of a sexy pick simply

996
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 3: by the hiring of Jim Harbaugh. I think in the

997
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 3: long term he can turn things around, but not in

998
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 3: the short term at best. I actually have the Chargers

999
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 3: finishing last in the AFC West this year with a

1000
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 3: six and eleven record, which actually is a step up

1001
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,439
Speaker 3: from last year. But yeah, I think the Chargers will

1002
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 3: struggle this year. I have six wins for the Los

1003
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 3: Angeles Chargers.

1004
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 2: Rich, Okay, I.

1005
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 5: Have them at seven wins. A lot of what you

1006
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 5: said I completely agree with. I'll say this, I think

1007
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 5: on the back end of their defense and up front,

1008
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 5: they have some special pieces, There's no question about it.

1009
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 5: Sante Samuel Junior, Derwin James Win available. They've got some

1010
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 5: other defensive backs who I'm interested in, I think are good.

1011
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 5: They kind of have a whole at interior, defensive line

1012
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 5: and linebacker outside of Khalil Mack and Joey Bosa, who

1013
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 5: are their edge rushers but have barely played together due

1014
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 5: to injuries throughout their course of time as Chargers.

1015
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 2: Together.

1016
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 5: They've made a commitment clearly to reinvigorate the toughness of

1017
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 5: this offense with the drafting of Joe Alt and bringing

1018
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 5: in some of those running backs from the Baltimore Ravens.

1019
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 5: Greg Roman the offensive coordinator now, so you know there's

1020
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 5: gonna be a commitment to the run game and play

1021
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 5: action pass, which I'm a fan of. With Gus Edwards

1022
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 5: and JK. Dobbins there. However, having said all that, they

1023
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 5: don't have anybody to throw to. This is a passing league,

1024
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 5: so you're gonna be relying on Quinton Johnson, who last

1025
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 5: year is showing early signals of being a bust. I'm

1026
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 5: not going to I'm not gonna make that diagnosis yet,

1027
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 5: but their symptoms.

1028
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, not being able to catch the ball.

1029
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 5: That would be one of the chief symptoms. Yeah, Joshua Palmer,

1030
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 5: who was in and out of the lineup with with

1031
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 5: injuries and wasn't particularly.

1032
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 2: Reliable when he was out there.

1033
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 5: Both of those guys actually finished the season pretty strong.

1034
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 5: They're they're they're high on lad McConkie.

1035
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:23,720
Speaker 2: We'll see.

1036
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 5: I got them at seven wins because I think this

1037
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 5: is going to be well. The division's gonna lack competitiveness.

1038
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 5: They've got some tough games on this schedule, and they

1039
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 5: don't have much firepower if they get behind. If they're

1040
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 5: leading games, I think they'll be able to press their

1041
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 5: thumb on some people. But if they get behind at all,

1042
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 5: who would they throw in the football to? Yeah, so seven.

1043
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 4: Wins, seven wins?

1044
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 3: I have them at six. Bow you have been savage

1045
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 3: in this AFC West, say the Chiefs here with five

1046
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 3: wins for the Broncos and four for the Raiders.

1047
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 4: Where do the Chargers check in?

1048
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 10: I have the Chargers at six and eleven. I think

1049
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 10: they had the best one to two combo in the

1050
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 10: first two rounds of the draft with Joe Alton lad McConkey. Yes,

1051
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 10: but I think it's also a much bigger rebuild than

1052
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 10: anybody wants to admit. Yet the Chargers for a long

1053
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 10: time were like, well, that team's really talented on paper,

1054
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 10: but in reality, like they were just paper fin there's

1055
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 10: no depth on that team. Whoever their GM was. I

1056
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 10: hope he doesn't have another job. Let me check where

1057
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 10: he is.

1058
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 4: Oh, okay, yeah I might.

1059
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 2: I might.

1060
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,439
Speaker 10: Might take away win away win from the Raiders now tie,

1061
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 10: yeah geez, but yeah, I think they're Jim Harbaugh is like,

1062
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 10: he's just a good coach, but they are like a

1063
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 10: year away from being competitive.

1064
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 3: So okay, six six that's where I had them. All right,

1065
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 3: it's up to you, Chris to wrap this up on

1066
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 3: the AFC West.

1067
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 13: You say this is a passing league, and yet Jim

1068
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 13: Harbaugh is known for this hard no stuff. Now look, yeah,

1069
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 13: I'm with bo. I think this is the start of

1070
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 13: a rebuild. There's still a year or two away. I

1071
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 13: think they knocked out the part with Lad McConkie and

1072
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 13: Joel was kind of a no duh.

1073
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 4: Move for them. Absolutely, he's Joe Thomas.

1074
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 13: He's going to be the anchor for this team for

1075
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 13: at least ten years moving forward. Like it's so Joe

1076
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 13: Thomas was for a Cleveland team that never won anything.

1077
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 13: Ye mean, it takes more than a great tackle. But

1078
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 13: I also think this is kind of a year where

1079
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 13: we could maybe see what Justin Herbert is and going

1080
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 13: to more run heavy is probably the panacea he needs.

1081
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 13: That he doesn't need to be asked to do all

1082
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 13: this hero ball all the time. And let's not forget

1083
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 13: that they've got Gus Edwards now running the ball, who

1084
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 13: is fairly underrated. I'm not going to call him criminally underrated,

1085
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 13: but as a running back, he's got advanced metrics show that,

1086
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 13: like he's been kind of undervalued for a long time.

1087
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 13: I it's it's a work in progress, but you kind

1088
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 13: of trust Jim Harbaugh. You trust the buye and he's

1089
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 13: getting so far. I actually I'm hovering between eight and nine.

1090
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 13: I am so terrified to pull the trigger. You know what,

1091
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Speaker 13: I'll pull it nine eight, nine and eight. But still

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00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 13: no playoffs. I don't have any wild card teams coming

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00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,280
Speaker 13: out of the AFC weast.

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Speaker 10: You mentioned Gus Edwards too, But like JK. Dobbins, if

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00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 10: he gets healthy, that's a big if he does.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I love Dobbins in college, but I mean

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00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 3: it's injury after injury.

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Speaker 13: This is kind of the new model you're seeing with

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00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 13: teams like the forty nine Ers and the Lions, where like,

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Speaker 13: it's good to throw the ball, but it's even better

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00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 13: is high level offensive line play boats to protect the

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Speaker 13: quarterback and to set up a run game, or as

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00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 13: was said by the Georgia Tech coach yesterday, run the ball.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Here's one thing I will say about the Chargers.

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00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 3: They better not get an injury to Herbert because after

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00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 3: Easton Stick's performance during the preseason, following up after his

1107
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,399
Speaker 3: zero to four run as a starter last year, after

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00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 3: the injury to Herbert, I don't think he's really the

1109
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 3: answer in terms of a projected number two quarterback, But

1110
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 3: apparently they're boughty in so. Overall review of the AFC West,

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00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 3: no surprise here. All four of us have picked the

1112
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 3: Chiefs to win the West. I am the only one

1113
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 3: to pick a wild card team out of the West,

1114
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Speaker 3: and I'm going with the Denver Broncos to sneak in

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00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:11,240
Speaker 3: as a wild card team out of the AFC West.

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Speaker 4: All right, one division in the books coming up. This

1117
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 4: is another tough division to try to predict.

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00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 3: The AFC South and once again, quarterback play is going

1119
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 3: to have a big bearing on which team is going

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Speaker 3: to merge from the pack. We'll break it down. This

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Speaker 3: is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harmander and Rich Ornberger. Here

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Sunday. We are live from the tai Iraq

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Speaker 3: dot Com studios.

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Speaker 4: So this week and next week we're gonna break.

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Speaker 3: Down all the teams getting ready for the NFL season

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Speaker 3: coming up two weeks from today, we're gonna be in

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Speaker 3: full blow red Zone radio mode. If you haven't heard

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Speaker 3: Red Zone Radio here in Fox Sports Radio with us,

1129
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 3: you're in for a treat because we cover all the games,

1130
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 3: all the stats. We know you got fantasy football going,

1131
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,399
Speaker 3: We know everything that's going on. And this is the

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00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 3: only place to be throughout the NFL season.

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Speaker 4: So Rich we'll be side by side. We're rolling along

1134
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 4: and uh, I can't wait. I cannot wait. It's gonna

1135
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 4: be too much, too much.

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Speaker 3: I'm the college football season. I could go all day

1137
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 3: on that one that coming out. I don't even know

1138
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 3: what expects, all right, So today we decided we'd focus

1139
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Speaker 3: in on the AFC. We have put the AFC West

1140
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Speaker 3: to rest. Now a very tricky division because a year ago,

1141
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 3: nobody could have predicted at this point the way the

1142
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 3: AFC South played out, And so the question now as

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00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 3: we go into this season with the AFC South is

1144
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 3: who is for real and who is not. Houston Texans

1145
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 3: won this division a year ago. If we had had

1146
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 3: this a year ago, I doubt any of us would

1147
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 3: have predicted the Houston Texas and won ten games and

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Speaker 3: win the division.

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Speaker 4: It's safe to say, Okay.

1150
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 3: Jackson and he both won nine games, neither of which

1151
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 3: was enough to get into the playoffs, and then Tennessee

1152
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 3: brought up the rear with six wins. Hard to believe

1153
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,240
Speaker 3: just three years ago the Titans were the one seed

1154
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 3: in the AFC playoffs.

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Speaker 4: They obviously have a new coach.

1156
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 3: So let's go alphabetically again, which means we will start

1157
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 3: with the Houston Texans. Guys, a team that shock the

1158
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 3: world a year ago thanks to well, not just obviously

1159
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 3: a quarterback that was better than advertised, but also a

1160
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 3: coach that lived up to the hype. Although a lot

1161
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 3: of people wondered after falling over what three straight one

1162
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 3: and done coaches in Houston, if he had actually made

1163
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 3: the right decision and taken on the job of the

1164
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 3: Houston Texans, but Dimigo Ryans did that and with a

1165
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 3: lot of fanfare. Usually, if you trace over NFL history,

1166
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 3: when a team has a completely out of left field

1167
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 3: breakout season, eventually they will settle into a pretty good run,

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Speaker 3: assuming they keep the same coach in the quarterback is healthy.

1169
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 3: But also history says that that team most likely will

1170
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 3: take a step back before taking another step forward, and

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Speaker 3: I think that will be true of the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 3: I don't think the Houston Texans are a playoff team

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Speaker 3: this year. I think that a few things, a lot

1174
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 3: of things went right for them a year ago that

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00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 3: may not happen this year. I'm not writing off the

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Speaker 3: Houston Texans for the future though. I think Stroud is

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Speaker 3: the real deal at quarterback, but ten wins, I don't

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Speaker 3: buy it this year. I think the Houston Texans will

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Speaker 3: not win this division, will not be a playoff team.

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Speaker 3: I have the Texans dropping a couple down to eight

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Speaker 3: and nine this season.

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Speaker 2: Rich, Wow, we're.

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Speaker 5: So close so far through all of these assessments, I

1184
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Speaker 5: have them as a nine to win football team. For

1185
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 5: a lot of what you said, I think that the

1186
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 5: Houston Texans burst onto the scene last year. They surprised everybody.

1187
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 5: They snuck up on a couple of those early opponents.

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00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 5: I think teams really started waking up to how special CJ.

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Speaker 5: Stroud was later in the season, and defensive coordinators were

1190
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Speaker 5: baffled a little bit to try to devise a plan

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Speaker 5: to slow him down some because he continued to roar

1192
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Speaker 5: through the regular season. Here's the problem, though, this is

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Speaker 5: a much tougher schedule. I mean, if you look at

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Speaker 5: some of the opponents that they're going to play in,

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Speaker 5: some of the opponents that they're going to play on

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Speaker 5: the road. You know, they're hosting the Bills this year,

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Speaker 5: they got to go to Green Bay, they got to

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Speaker 5: go to New York to face the Jets. They're hosting

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Speaker 5: the Lions this year on the road, at the Cowboys

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Speaker 5: on the road. Obviously at least once against the Jacksonville

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Speaker 5: Jaguars in Division on the road at the Chiefs, they

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Speaker 5: host the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: I mean, those feel like losses, or at.

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Speaker 5: Very least in certain cases, maybe some blowout losses. Because

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Speaker 5: those teams, the rosters we're talking about assuming health.

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Speaker 2: I mean, those are all playoff teams, many of them.

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Speaker 5: I shouldn't say all playoff teams, but many of them

1208
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Speaker 5: playoff teams. And like you said, I think luck helped

1209
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Speaker 5: the Houston Texans at time last year. See Di's drought

1210
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Speaker 5: is real. I don't think he's going to be the reason.

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Speaker 5: I think they have a lot of work, a lot

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Speaker 5: more work to do. The Stefan Diggs factor is what

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Speaker 5: pushes me a game higher than you. Though I think

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Speaker 5: he's a special talent. I think he has a lot

1215
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Speaker 5: to prove this year. So I give the Texans nine wins.

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Speaker 4: Nine wins? Is that enough to get into a wild

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Speaker 4: card for you?

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Speaker 5: We're gonna have to come back around to that. I'm

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Speaker 5: not totally sure yet.

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Speaker 4: I mean that's you know.

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Speaker 3: I'll put it this way. It would not have made

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Speaker 3: the playoffs. A year ago.

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Speaker 4: AFC was two eleven win teams. Let's put it this way.

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Speaker 5: Because of how I feel about the AFC North, I

1225
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Speaker 5: think they're missing with nine wins.

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Speaker 3: All right, so they are not a playoff team, all right?

1227
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Speaker 3: Bo I have them with eight wins the Texans, which

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Speaker 3: has nine. Neither of us have them in as a

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Speaker 3: playoff team.

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Speaker 4: Where do you stand?

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Speaker 10: I have them winning eleven games, I think is legit.

1232
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Speaker 10: And when your quarterback is legit in the NFL. That

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Speaker 10: means that you have a chance to win every single game.

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Speaker 4: Is that eleven wins and an AFC South title?

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Speaker 10: I think so, I don't like anybody else on this division,

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Speaker 10: so I think they kind of win it by default

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Speaker 10: with double digit wins.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 10: But yeah, like CJ. Stroud is just legit, Like he's

1240
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Speaker 10: just good, Like he's just as ruler back. Yeah, he's

1241
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Speaker 10: just a really good quarterback. And when you have that,

1242
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Speaker 10: and I think Demico Ryans is just a really good coach.

1243
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Speaker 10: So I think when you have those two spots settled,

1244
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Speaker 10: you have a chance to win every single game you're in.

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Speaker 3: All right, well Rich did point out there their schedule

1246
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 3: is going to be much tougher than the last play

1247
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 3: schedule they had last year.

1248
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Speaker 4: Now they all have a first play schedule.

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Speaker 3: But all right, bo'son record eleven and six, they win

1250
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Speaker 3: the AFC South.

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Speaker 4: Chris, where are you?

1252
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Speaker 13: I'm with Bo at eleven wins again, I'm gonna go

1253
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 13: back to the sheet. We also have MVP down here.

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Speaker 2: I have CJ.

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Speaker 13: Stroud down as my pick for MVP. This is like,

1256
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Speaker 13: besides steff On Diggs, we cannot diminish Tank Dell at all.

1257
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Speaker 13: But besides that, can we talk about their defense, because like,

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Speaker 13: besides c J. Stroud, Will Anderson was their pickup and

1259
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 13: they spend a lot of resources going into this, into

1260
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Speaker 13: their DB's core right now with Jalen Peetree, Jimmy Ward,

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Speaker 13: Derek Stingley. I think they picked up Kamari Lassiter this

1262
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Speaker 13: year as well. I like what they've done a lot

1263
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Speaker 13: on their defense. I think this team is legitimate. I

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Speaker 13: have them eleven wins AFC South title, and I don't

1265
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Speaker 13: think it will be very close in that regard.

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Speaker 3: Wow, isn't an amazing rich how you and I have

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Speaker 3: been very similar in our picks and Bo and Chris

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Speaker 3: have been very similar in their picks.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And and by the way, it's it's equal because even

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Speaker 5: though we're a little down on the Texans in you know,

1273
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Speaker 5: the sophomore year for CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud, we've been higher on some.

1275
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Speaker 5: Of these teams than Bow and Chris, specifically the Raiders.

1276
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is an interesting mix.

1277
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Speaker 8: All right.

1278
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Speaker 3: We will get through the rest of the AFC South,

1279
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Speaker 3: starting with another team that's really hard to figure out,

1280
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Speaker 3: that be the Indianapolis Colts. But first let's find out

1281
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 3: what is trending right now? So Martin, let's get your

1282
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 3: AFC West thoughts. I take it you like the Chiefs

1283
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 3: to win that division.

1284
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 12: I do, but I think they go under you guys

1285
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 12: all have them met eleven or twelve wins. I think

1286
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 12: they end up winning it with eleven wins?

1287
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Speaker 4: Eleven wins?

1288
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 3: Do you see any other team in the AFC West

1289
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 3: getting is a wildcard?

1290
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 11: If I had to bet, I'd bet the Broncos.

1291
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 12: I think like they have a good shot at surprising

1292
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 12: people if nothing else. Both did say it or Sean

1293
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 12: Payton is kind of kind of a jerk.

1294
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's okay.

1295
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 11: There's a lot of jerky coaches, but this is the

1296
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 11: type of thing.

1297
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Speaker 12: I mean, I watched Sean Payton win eight games playing

1298
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 12: a tight end deir quarterback in Taysom Hill, so it's

1299
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Speaker 12: hard for me to and I have a born diet

1300
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 12: in the Wolf Saints fan, so I think Sean Payton's

1301
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 12: probably pretty like pretty good at this.

1302
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Speaker 3: All right, Then you're in lockstep with me because I

1303
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 3: do have the Broncos sneaking in at the wildcard.

1304
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Speaker 4: What's happening out there today?

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Speaker 12: Speaking of the AFC South, you guys are about to

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Speaker 12: talk about this team in a minute. That Tennessee playing

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Speaker 12: starters today. Tony Pollard and Will Levis both out there

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Speaker 12: five for five for Levis ninety eight yards and Tony

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Speaker 12: Pollard got the lone touchdowns scored in the game so far,

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Speaker 12: and he's got five carry seventeen yards and he just

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Speaker 12: had to catch just now, I think that was for

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Speaker 12: thirteen yards there. As the first quarter winds down in

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Speaker 12: the preseason matchup that's on right now, the Nationals have

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Speaker 12: a four to one lead over the Braves in the

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Speaker 12: eighth inning.

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Speaker 11: Yankees four to one.

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Speaker 12: Over the Rockies, Red Sox four, Diamondbacks nothing in the

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Speaker 12: fourth Pirates have Pirates two with two.

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Speaker 11: On in the third inning against the Reds.

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Speaker 12: The Blue Jays with their one nothing lead over the

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Speaker 12: Angels in the fourth inning, Marlins and Cubs Miami with

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Speaker 12: a two to one lead in the third. The Guardians

1323
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Speaker 12: have two nothing lead over the Rangers and the fourth

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Speaker 12: and the Twins and the Cardinals Minnesota with a nothing

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Speaker 12: lead in the second inning. Earlier today in the WNBA,

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Speaker 12: the Aces beat the Sky seventy seven to seventy five.

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Speaker 12: Kennedy Carter hit a three to tie with have a

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Speaker 12: second left Asian Wilson with a game learning jump to

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Speaker 12: close out Chicago Vegas approving to seventeen and eleven. Beangals

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Speaker 12: receiver Jamar Chase practice today in Cincinnati, his first practice

1331
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Speaker 12: as he's still in search of a new long term contract.

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Speaker 12: Miami Dolphins releasing quarterback Mike White. Skylo Thompson is the

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Speaker 12: backup for two A Songo I Low and now the

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01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 12: Rams have released running back Boston Scott and also granted

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Speaker 12: starting linebacker Ernest Jones permission to seek a trade back

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Speaker 12: to you guys.

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Speaker 4: All right, thank you very much, Martin. We'll check in

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Speaker 4: with you a little bit later on.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: Where we are breaking down the AFC on this Sunday,

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01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 3: the AFC West is in the books and we are

1354
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 3: now into the AFC South. We certainly have a difference

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01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 3: of opinion for the Texans. Rich and I have them

1356
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 3: missing the playoffs, while both Bo and Chris have him

1357
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 3: winning the AFC South. All right, alphabetically, Next up the

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Speaker 3: Indianapolis Colts. And this is a team that a year

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01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 3: ago drafted Anthony Richardson, yep, who.

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Speaker 4: Everyone was all.

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01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 3: Over the map, like, you know what he did at Florida,

1362
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 3: would it translate to the NFL.

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01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 4: He got off to a decent start, then he got.

1364
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 3: Hurt, and now all of a sudden, all those people

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01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 3: that were singing the praise of Anthony Richardson are having

1366
01:06:56,080 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 3: second outs about his ability to be at enough as

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Speaker 3: a passer.

1368
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 4: He was a less than sixty percent passer in college.

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01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 3: And that it was interesting that they pick up Joe

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01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 3: Flacco as the backup because a year ago Joe Flacco

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01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 3: stepped in for Deshaun Watson and led the Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 3: into the postseason. That kind of uncertainty a quarterback is

1373
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 3: worrisome to me. As far as the Colts are concerned,

1374
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 3: I think their offensive line is outstanding.

1375
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of pluses for this Colts team.

1376
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 4: But again, if you have a question at quarterback, you

1377
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 4: have a question.

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Speaker 3: On your season. Colts won nine games a year ago.

1379
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 3: I see them slightly taking a step back. I don't

1380
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 3: see them as a playoff team. I have the Colts

1381
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,919
Speaker 3: going eight and nine.

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01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 5: Rich Okay, I have the Colts and again in a

1383
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 5: similar vein, going seven wins, and actually I want to

1384
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 5: say that the opposite way. This looks like a ten

1385
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 5: loss team. You know, like everything he just said about

1386
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 5: Anthony Richardson, I mean, think about how much the Browns

1387
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 5: have struggled, even though there's a lot of other things

1388
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 5: hemmed up on their roster to keep the offense consistent

1389
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 5: with Deshaun Watson, I think the Colts may have signed

1390
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:17,879
Speaker 5: up for something similar like the drafting of a player.

1391
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 5: You know, at the very tippy top of the draft,

1392
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 5: there's a lot of vanity that goes into that, a

1393
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 5: lot of people are going to try to make a

1394
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:28,679
Speaker 5: square pig fit square peg fit in a round hole

1395
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 5: for a little while longer than they should, because you

1396
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 5: don't want to be made to look like a fool

1397
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 5: for your assumption that.

1398
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Speaker 2: This guy's the guy.

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Speaker 5: And so I think the Browns are dealing with that

1400
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 5: at with a little bit more success in Cleveland, obviously,

1401
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 5: because Kevin Stefanski's a fantastic coach and that defense is

1402
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:46,600
Speaker 5: one of the best in the league. I think the

1403
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:49,640
Speaker 5: Colts may have the same problem with Anthony Richardson, so

1404
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 5: bringing in Flacco oddly making that comparison is a smart

1405
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 5: choice because I do think he's gonna have to will

1406
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Speaker 5: Indianapolis to several wins this season with Richardson out with injury,

1407
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Speaker 5: because I don't think he's going to have the sort

1408
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 5: of durability the Colts are gonna need. I have them

1409
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Speaker 5: at seven wins.

1410
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 3: All right, So I have the Colts at eight and

1411
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 3: rich has the Colts at seven. We turned to our

1412
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 3: producer Bo, who is really seeing a much different AFC

1413
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 3: than we're seen so far. But where do you check

1414
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Speaker 3: in with the Indianapolis Colts.

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Speaker 10: I think there's legit concerns about Anthony Richardson's durability obviously

1416
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,640
Speaker 10: given the way he plays, and I don't like the

1417
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:30,839
Speaker 10: stories coming out of their joint practices with the Bengals

1418
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:33,679
Speaker 10: where all the Bengals defenders were kind of like ripping

1419
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 10: his ability to actually play quarterback in the NFL. But

1420
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:38,639
Speaker 10: also we knew that he was really raw coming out.

1421
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 10: So I'm not going to close the book on Anthony Richardson.

1422
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 10: But I do think this is just gonna be kind

1423
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Speaker 10: of a middling Colts team. So I think seven wins

1424
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Speaker 10: about where they're going to land.

1425
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Speaker 3: Seven wins for the Colts. Does anybody think the Colts

1426
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 3: are going to have a winning season? One chance left,

1427
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Speaker 3: and that is Chris.

1428
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 13: You know, if you had asked me about like a

1429
01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 13: week or two ago, I might have set a winning season.

1430
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 13: And then I started to sit down and look at

1431
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 13: the roster and realize I have brainwashed myself a little

1432
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 13: bit into the same line we used to do for

1433
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 13: so long with the Cults, like this is a very good,

1434
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 13: talented roster, right, And then you blink and look up

1435
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 13: and realize, much like for a long time we always

1436
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 13: say about the Dallas Caws, Oh that's a strong O line.

1437
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 13: And then you realize, oh, wait, these guys have all

1438
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 13: played for like seven eight years, are they really good anymore?

1439
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 13: And like I can't really ignore some of the misses

1440
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 13: they've had, Like you know, Quitty Pay, I know he's

1441
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:30,759
Speaker 13: trying to like get himself back into shape and everything,

1442
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:34,640
Speaker 13: but not much there. And like like bo not just

1443
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 13: Anthony Richardson, but I also questioned the durability of Jonathan

1444
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 13: Taylor into this year as well. And that's like, that's

1445
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 13: your core of identity between the two there. I don't

1446
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 13: like a lot of their wide receivers either. I'm not

1447
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 13: sure what their identity really is on offense anymore. Besides

1448
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 13: having Quinn and Nelson, I have them at seven wins

1449
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 13: as well. I think this is actually when we can

1450
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 13: all go universalon. Yeah, It's like it feels like I'm

1451
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 13: looking at a roster that like a few years ago,

1452
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,679
Speaker 13: I would have said, boy, there's no reason this team

1453
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 13: can't win. And now I'm real now the skills I

1454
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 13: feel like have been falling from my eyes.

1455
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 3: Well, of all the teams we've talked about so far,

1456
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:16,440
Speaker 3: we are pretty lockstep.

1457
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 4: Three of us have seven wins. I have them with eight.

1458
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 3: None of us have the Colts as a playoff team.

1459
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 3: Next up, alphabetically the Jacksonville Jaguars. And what's interesting about

1460
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 3: Jacksonville is last season they had the exact same record

1461
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 3: they had the year before, nine and eight, But what

1462
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 3: was the difference. Well, two years ago, when they were

1463
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 3: nine and eight, they not only won the division, they

1464
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 3: also were able to win a playoff game. Last year's

1465
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 3: nine to eight was an absolute collapse, losing five of

1466
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 3: the last six games and all of a sudden There's

1467
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 3: a lot of people with questions about Trevor Lawrence, even

1468
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 3: though he signed a huge contract extension with the Jaguars.

1469
01:11:57,040 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 4: I have no questions about Trevor Lawrence. Lawrence is the

1470
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 4: real deal.

1471
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:05,639
Speaker 3: I cannot explain why this team collapsed last year after

1472
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 3: that eight and three start, but they did.

1473
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 4: It will not happen again this year.

1474
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:12,679
Speaker 3: To me, the Jaguars are the class of this division,

1475
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 3: at least for now. I think Trevor Lawrence is going

1476
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:18,639
Speaker 3: to have a bounce back year, really from a bounce

1477
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 3: back finish to what we saw a year ago. I

1478
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 3: think the Jaguars win eleven games this year. I'm a

1479
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 3: believer and Doug Peterson, their coach, I think it was

1480
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,680
Speaker 3: a learning lesson again, a lot of times when you

1481
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 3: have a big leap up. Remember they went from three

1482
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 3: wins to nine, and then they step back a little

1483
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:38,640
Speaker 3: bit with that finish. But moving forward, I think the

1484
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 3: Jaguars are in the best shape in this division, starting

1485
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 3: with their quarterback Trevor Lawrence. Jags go eleven and six

1486
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 3: and win the AFC South Rich I.

1487
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 2: Won one hundred percent agree. Did you say eleven wins?

1488
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:52,520
Speaker 4: Eleven?

1489
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 2: We are again right on the same number.

1490
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 5: So eleven wins for the Jags, And it really comes

1491
01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 5: down to this one person. It's Trevor Lawrence, and he's

1492
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 5: a much better quarterback than the numbers would tell you.

1493
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:08,679
Speaker 5: If you take a deeper look at what happened last year?

1494
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 5: What was this team marred by accidents? So Trevor Lawrence

1495
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 5: would throw an accurate pass, it would be dropped by

1496
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 5: one of his receivers, a fumble would be squirting around

1497
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 5: the football field and the opponent would come up with it.

1498
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,639
Speaker 5: And a lot of times those fumbles weren't Trevor Lawrence's fault.

1499
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 5: He's putting the ball where it's supposed to go and

1500
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 5: a receiver is not protecting the football running down field

1501
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 5: he gets it punched out or running.

1502
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 2: Back, what have you.

1503
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:38,799
Speaker 5: There were some tipball interceptions. Do you remember that early

1504
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,520
Speaker 5: in the season it felt like every Trevor Lawrence interception

1505
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 5: went forty feet in the air before it landed in

1506
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 5: the hands of a defender. Strength of schedule also, I

1507
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 5: mean they played a tough schedule last year. I think

1508
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 5: that had an impact on a team that was trying

1509
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 5: to build around a great quarterback who has an opportunity

1510
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 5: hasn't had many opportunities to expose how great he is

1511
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 5: because of the talent around him. I like the Jags

1512
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 5: this year. I think the Texans take a step back.

1513
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 5: I think the Jaguars search forward. They're eleven win football team.

1514
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 2: Wow.

1515
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:12,760
Speaker 3: Rich and I really have been pretty close on all

1516
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 3: of our predictions. Now we go back to bow. Well,

1517
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 3: you guys have already in there picked the Texans to win.

1518
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 3: So where do the Jags fall for you?

1519
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 7: Bo?

1520
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 4: Are they a winning team? Are they a playoff team?

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01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 10: Yeah? I think they're like a ten win team might

1522
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 10: squeak into a wildcard spot. I just I think the

1523
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 10: Texans are just better, but they're not bad, but they're

1524
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:35,639
Speaker 10: kind of just mid all.

1525
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 4: Right, So you're gonna go with ten wins?

1526
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:37,640
Speaker 2: Are you?

1527
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:42,600
Speaker 4: Are you calling it now? Are the Jags a wildcard team? No?

1528
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:47,680
Speaker 3: No, they are not a wildcard team. Wait maybe, and

1529
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 3: then there's no maybes today. Everything is on the record.

1530
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:54,639
Speaker 3: We don't play the maybe game here on this Sunday.

1531
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 4: We'll be on there. Yes or no.

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01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 10: I have not thought about the AFC as a conference.

1533
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:02,640
Speaker 10: I know you're an NFC because NFC control room. The

1534
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 10: Chiefs are just that much better I think than everybody else.

1535
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 3: Well, I mean you have to project they have we

1536
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 3: still have any niece and we have the Norse.

1537
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,639
Speaker 10: Let's are the Yeah, the Norse. Let's let's circle back

1538
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:13,719
Speaker 10: on the Jaguars after we do the rest of the division.

1539
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 4: All right, so they're they're okay, we can come back. Chris,

1540
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:19,679
Speaker 4: what do you say on these on this Jacksonville team.

1541
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 13: It's hard for me to love the Jags because I

1542
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 13: cannot I can't buy into Trevor Lawrence like you.

1543
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:24,759
Speaker 4: I'm hopeful.

1544
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 13: I'm really hopeful because otherwise that entire class of quarterbacks

1545
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 13: might go down as a just incredibly disappointing year. But

1546
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:33,640
Speaker 13: I think what's hard for me as I look at

1547
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 13: the Jaguars roster, and I'm struggling because I'm like, I

1548
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 13: know a lot of these players are good, but they're

1549
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,679
Speaker 13: also names that have never come up on my radar.

1550
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 13: I actually, you know what, I'm going to be hopeful.

1551
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 13: I'm going to give them ten wins, and I will

1552
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 13: say they will get in a wild card. I have

1553
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 13: wildcards from every division except the West. I think the

1554
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 13: Jaguars will get in. It's just it's tough for me

1555
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 13: to love them, but I think I have to recognize

1556
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:00,120
Speaker 13: I just don't know their names too well. But this,

1557
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 13: let's not forget those nine wins. They did part of

1558
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 13: that without Trevor Lawrence.

1559
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, Like I.

1560
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 13: Think with a full season of healthy Trevor Lawrence and

1561
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 13: no collapse down the stretch, I don't see why they

1562
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 13: can't hit ten wins. All right, We're gonna wrap up

1563
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 13: on the other side of the AFC South and then

1564
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,599
Speaker 13: move on to both the North and the East. It's

1565
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 13: our AFC preview, our final predictions for twenty twenty four.

1566
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 13: This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin, rich Ronberger, Fox

1567
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 13: Sports Sunday. We are live from the ti Iraq dot

1568
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 13: Com studios are rundown of the AFC today, just wrapping

1569
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 13: up the AFC South Tennessee Titans.

1570
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 4: Brian Callahan.

1571
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 3: I always laugh when I see Brian Callahan played college

1572
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 3: football at UCLA.

1573
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 4: That's like saying I played college FOOTBA at UCLA.

1574
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 3: Brian Callahan's entire career at UCLA as a fifth string

1575
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 3: quarterback consisted of him holding for kicks. He did not

1576
01:16:56,880 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 3: throw a single pass in his career at UCLA. His father,

1577
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 3: Bill Callahan, although a respected assistant coach for many years,

1578
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 3: failed in every head coaching job he ever had, whether

1579
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 3: it was the Raiders ultimately after the Super Bowls handed

1580
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl team when Gruden left and then got

1581
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 3: blown out of that Super Bowl, losing season the next

1582
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 3: year went to Nebraska, was an absolute disaster there. I

1583
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 3: don't see Brian Callahan is the answer. Let's put it

1584
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 3: that way. For the Tennessee Titans, it's been bad the

1585
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 3: last couple of years. It's gonna get worse in twenty

1586
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 3: twenty four, five, and twelve for the Tennessee Titans.

1587
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 2: Rich Yeah, you know.

1588
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 5: The way you do it with teams who you don't

1589
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 5: suspect they're going to be very good, is you start

1590
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:49,639
Speaker 5: counting the wins instead of the losses like a better

1591
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 5: team like the Chiefs. I'm counting what games that I

1592
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 5: could forecast them losing because it's a shorter list. For

1593
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:02,639
Speaker 5: the Titans, I was counting wins for similar reasons. Actually,

1594
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 5: maybe less to do a Callahan and more to do

1595
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 5: with his quarterback play and overall the identity of the team.

1596
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 5: Going back to something that Chris said about the Indianapolis Colts,

1597
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 5: I'll say about their AFC South rivals, I have no

1598
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 5: idea who the Tennessee Titans are.

1599
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:25,719
Speaker 2: Vrabel very much instilled a culture.

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01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 5: Now it had an expiration date and we saw that,

1601
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 5: but this was a culture that was set. I kind

1602
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 5: of feel like I don't know who the Titans are.

1603
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 5: I don't think the Titans know who they are. I

1604
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 5: have the Tennessee Titans at six wins.

1605
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 3: Six wins, all right, bo I got five for the Titans.

1606
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:46,560
Speaker 4: Rich has six? Your thoughts on Tennessee.

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01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 10: When I think about the Tennessee Titans, I just really

1608
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 10: want to take a nap.

1609
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great pot.

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01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 4: Three wins, three wins? I mean, is that worst team

1611
01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:00,080
Speaker 4: in the NFL this year? It's getting close. Wow, I

1612
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 4: think bo has another team in mine for worse.

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01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 3: All right, So three and fourteen for the Titans. I

1614
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 3: think we're all on a cord. This is not gonna

1615
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:09,560
Speaker 3: be a good team this year. Chris, where do you

1616
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 3: see him falling?

1617
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 1: Uh So?

1618
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:13,520
Speaker 4: Kind of like how I didn't know anyone on the Jaguars.

1619
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 13: I look at this team and I realize like, oh wait,

1620
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 13: actually I know all these guys, and oh wow, this

1621
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 13: really is a land of misfit toys. Tony Pollard, Calvin Ridley,

1622
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 13: DeAndre Hopkins, Tyler Boyd. Really, I know, I keep forgetting

1623
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,679
Speaker 13: the Titans exist. I have no faith in Will Levis.

1624
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 13: This is a team that has no identity, like you

1625
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 13: guys have been saying, and just not a lot of hope.

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01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 13: I've got them. I'll give them five wins. I'll give

1627
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 13: them five wins. This is good. This it's not gonna

1628
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 13: it's gonna be good. It's not gonna be good. And

1629
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,640
Speaker 13: you can just forget about the Titans this year. You know,

1630
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:51,639
Speaker 13: I think there's gonna no thank you forget the Titans. Yeah,

1631
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:52,599
Speaker 13: forget the Titans.

1632
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:54,760
Speaker 3: I think people are gonna look back and say, well,

1633
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 3: Mike Rabel really did a pretty good job with the

1634
01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 3: Titans when you think about it, even when they were

1635
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 3: good three years ago, they were the one seed in

1636
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 3: the afcior like how.

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01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 5: Just looking how at the Vegas numbers, they have the

1638
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:10,679
Speaker 5: Vikings across the board at about six and a half wins.

1639
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 2: So we all come in under that.

1640
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 5: You want to hear where they have the Jaguars at

1641
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:17,560
Speaker 5: they have the Jags consensus about.

1642
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:19,600
Speaker 2: Eight and a half. All of us were well over that.

1643
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1644
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's why you listen, because we can

1645
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 3: shock you out there. We turned to maybe the toughest

1646
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 3: division in football, the AFC North. This is Fox Sports Sunday,

1647
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,599
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Speaker 4: Be, by the way. Tomorrow's National Dog Day.

1655
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 2: Thank goodness.

1656
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 4: How is your girl doing? How's she doing?

1657
01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:57,759
Speaker 2: Lady the dog?

1658
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 5: She is my eight pound Italian greyhound who's toothless and blind,

1659
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 5: meandering around, wandering into walls and finding her way to

1660
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 5: the food dish.

1661
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 2: Still, yeah, she is.

1662
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 4: Great, good to hear.

1663
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 5: So, yeah, I don't understand this, Like so she has

1664
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:20,680
Speaker 5: become like almost I want to say, there was a

1665
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:23,679
Speaker 5: rough spot there when she was first starting to go blind,

1666
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:27,440
Speaker 5: where we're like, okay, the decline is real because almost

1667
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 5: in the same timeframes she started losing her teeth, because

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01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:34,720
Speaker 5: I guess with the breed, that's something that happens if

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01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 5: they live old enough. Yeah, but yeah, then she kind

1670
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 5: of came through it.

1671
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:42,880
Speaker 2: She's she's learned how to use the walking stick. Now, no, I'm.

1672
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 5: Kidding, but she's she she has her own seeing eye dog.

1673
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:49,679
Speaker 5: She uh no, she's she's found her way through the house.

1674
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 5: She has like the route that she walks. She loves

1675
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:55,640
Speaker 5: going outside, laying the sun. This dog's gonna probably outlive me,

1676
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:56,599
Speaker 5: I guess, is what I'm trying.

1677
01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:59,720
Speaker 3: Well, I have a Lola, Well Lola, Lola Duke, and

1678
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:04,520
Speaker 3: we have three dogs. And Lola will be fourteen on Thursday,

1679
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 3: which in human years is ninety eight. She has no teeth,

1680
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 3: she's getting a little glass yet, but she still has

1681
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:17,120
Speaker 3: her sight. She's a warrior dookie. He'll be thirteen in December.

1682
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:19,760
Speaker 3: He's a warrior of one of our rescue dogs. And

1683
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:21,720
Speaker 3: then you got the big baby, the Big Bubba. I

1684
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:25,520
Speaker 3: would like to call him Rocky and he's a sweetheart.

1685
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 3: But you know, I know everybody out there that has dogs.

1686
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 3: You love your dogs? Could you know they have the

1687
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,599
Speaker 3: absolute best? And no knock on cats. I love cats

1688
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:34,679
Speaker 3: as well, but the dogs.

1689
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 10: Ohm.

1690
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 8: I all right.

1691
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 4: So we are halfway through the AFC.

1692
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 3: We have put the AFC West and the AFC South

1693
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:45,720
Speaker 3: to rest just a review. All four of us have

1694
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 3: picked the Chiefs to win the AFC West. I'm the

1695
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:51,640
Speaker 3: only person picking a wild card team out of the

1696
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 3: AFC West. I have the Broncos sneaking in Martin who

1697
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 3: is not officially voting. Also like the Broncos there in

1698
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 3: the AFC South, we did have a split, Richie and

1699
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:04,840
Speaker 3: I think the Jaguars will bounce back and win the

1700
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 3: AFC South and Bo and Chris are going with the

1701
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 3: Texans to repeat as AFC South champions.

1702
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 4: And I do have the Jaguars as a wildcard team.

1703
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 3: So you have the Jags as a wildcard team and

1704
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 3: Bo is on the fence. He's not officially saying the

1705
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:26,640
Speaker 3: Jags are a wildcard team. Yet now we go to

1706
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 3: a division that a year ago was the best division

1707
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 3: in football. All four teams had a winning record. The

1708
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:36,680
Speaker 3: Ravens were thirteen and four. They got all the way

1709
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 3: to the AFC Championship game. The Browns, despite a loss

1710
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 3: of quarterback, dusted off Joe Flacke, huffed the couch and

1711
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 3: they won eleven and six got in as a wild card.

1712
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin Again, how did the Steelers win ten games

1713
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 3: last year?

1714
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1715
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 3: With no quarterback, and they also got in as a

1716
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,559
Speaker 3: wild card. And for the Bengals, even with the injury

1717
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 3: to Joe Burrow, they still.

1718
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 2: Won nine games.

1719
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 4: So this may be the toughest division of all to

1720
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:14,639
Speaker 4: try to figure out from year to year.

1721
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 3: We're starting with the alphabetical order, which starts with the

1722
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:23,559
Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens guys, And for the Ravens last year, it

1723
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 3: really was a magical season until the AFC Championship game.

1724
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson was the league's MVP.

1725
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 3: It wasn't a strong MVP field like he had nowhere

1726
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 3: near the numbers that he had when he was the

1727
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 3: MVP the first time, but almost by default, he ended

1728
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:43,639
Speaker 3: up winning MVP last year. Everything seemed to be going

1729
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 3: good and they looked in good shape. This is a

1730
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:49,680
Speaker 3: team that outscored their opponents last year by more than

1731
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 3: two hundred points, and their game plan against the Chase

1732
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 3: was the worst game plan I've ever seen in a

1733
01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 3: conference championship game. And they thought, all right, here's what

1734
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 3: we're gonna do. We're gonna have Lamar Jackson like outthrow

1735
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:06,600
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes.

1736
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:07,599
Speaker 4: That's our game plan.

1737
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 3: And by the way, when you're down, let's say two

1738
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:13,880
Speaker 3: touchdowns or something, maybe you have to resort to that.

1739
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 3: It was a one score game. Nothing made sense. And

1740
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 3: I look at this Ravens team and I'm thinking to myself, Okay,

1741
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:25,720
Speaker 3: a lot has to go right for a team to

1742
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 3: go thirteen and four a lot, and it's just not

1743
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 3: gonna happen this year the Ravens.

1744
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 4: I don't know on John Harbaugh. I've been knowing.

1745
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 3: It's such a believer on John Harbaugh all these years.

1746
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 3: He probably has a ticket for the Hall of Fame.

1747
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 3: But I think it's gonna be another year where the

1748
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 3: Ravens are not gonna get some of the breaks they

1749
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:45,800
Speaker 3: got in twenty twenty three.

1750
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 4: I have the Ravens dropping from thirteen.

1751
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 3: Wins to nine. They're a nine and eighteen and they're

1752
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:57,440
Speaker 3: not gonna make the playoffs.

1753
01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 2: Rich I've got them. It's a thirteen win team again.

1754
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:05,920
Speaker 5: I think the Ravens are one of those teams that

1755
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 5: it's going to turn into a little bit of the

1756
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:11,800
Speaker 5: Peyton Manning Brady years when he was with the Colts,

1757
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 5: Brady was with the Patriots, there was about a five

1758
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 5: to six year span where they just constantly ran into

1759
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 5: each other and Tom Brady had the benefit and same

1760
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 5: for Peyton Manning actually for many of those years in

1761
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 5: the AFC south of playing in weaker divisions. I think

1762
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 5: the Ravens eventually are going to get one here. They're

1763
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 5: going to get a Super Bowl berth because of what

1764
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:38,360
Speaker 5: they have to survive in terms of the gauntlet of

1765
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 5: their division to get to the AFC Conference Championship Game.

1766
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 5: I look at them as being a very similarly built

1767
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 5: team to last year, outside of the one unfortunate and

1768
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 5: really inexcusable gaff changing up their identity in the postseason, Like,

1769
01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 5: why would you ever become as happy team in the

1770
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 5: first half of a championship game where you weren't trailing

1771
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:09,599
Speaker 5: and when you were it was only by one score.

1772
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:13,719
Speaker 2: It just was so weird. I don't understand that thought

1773
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:14,679
Speaker 2: process at all.

1774
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna say that the when you look at

1775
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 5: their schedule, if you account that this division is treacherous always,

1776
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:26,759
Speaker 5: and you say, okay, well, they'll probably you know, split

1777
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:30,559
Speaker 5: losses in their division. You know, lose once to each

1778
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:33,679
Speaker 5: of these teams. I mean, really, you got to choose

1779
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:35,679
Speaker 5: between is it gonna be the Bills or the Chiefs

1780
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 5: who are gonna knock them off for that extra loss

1781
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:40,680
Speaker 5: in the regular season because of a lot of the

1782
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 5: rest of their schedule is kind of fluffy. So I'm

1783
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 5: gonna give them thirteen wins.

1784
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 4: All right too, and that's winning the division. I would

1785
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 4: take that.

1786
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, they will be division wins, all right.

1787
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 3: So you got the Ravens thirteen wins and winning the

1788
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 3: AFC North. I have them nine to eight and not

1789
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 3: even making the playoffs. So that's a big difference right there.

1790
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 3: Where do you stand on the Baltimore Ravens.

1791
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 10: I think the Ravens are gonna win eleven games. And

1792
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 10: I have a new rule that I've given myself where

1793
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 10: if you've won multiple MVP Awards, but you haven't won

1794
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 10: a Super Bowl. I'm not going to pay attention to

1795
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 10: you until you do win the Super Bowl. So the

1796
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 10: Ravens are winning eleven games, but beyond that, I don't

1797
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:19,959
Speaker 10: really care about the Ravens.

1798
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 2: All right.

1799
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 3: Is that eleven wins and winning the division or eleven

1800
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:23,599
Speaker 3: wins and being a wild Cup?

1801
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 10: I don't know. Let's find out.

1802
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 4: Well, okay, well we'll.

1803
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 3: Find out here as we go on. All right, Chris,

1804
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 3: where do you stand on this Baltimore Ravens team?

1805
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:30,760
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1806
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 13: That's what I keep coming back to. This could go

1807
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:36,800
Speaker 13: one of two ways. Where I don't think thirteen wins

1808
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 13: as possible. I feel like something disappointing is coming down

1809
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 13: the pike because it always seems to after a kind

1810
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:46,720
Speaker 13: of a loss like this, And I really don't like

1811
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 13: just running back teams.

1812
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 4: Again.

1813
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:52,720
Speaker 13: I don't think they're going to win the division, but

1814
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 13: just God, the talent they acquire all the time, especially

1815
01:28:56,520 --> 01:29:00,840
Speaker 13: on their defense, just always sits and hits me every time.

1816
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 13: And like I can never go against you know, Kyle Hamilton,

1817
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 13: who was one of my draft darlings in years past.

1818
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:11,600
Speaker 13: But I, man, I just don't know what to do

1819
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 13: with them this year. I'm going to say tentatively ten

1820
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 13: and six, ten, five, nine, you know what, nine six

1821
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 13: and one.

1822
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:24,360
Speaker 4: I'll do nine six and one in a while.

1823
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 3: You're nine seventeen game schedule, Yeah, nine six and one, sixteen,

1824
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 3: nine seven and one.

1825
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:34,160
Speaker 13: Oh wow, yeah, yeah, I just real math's hard again.

1826
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 13: If you listen to my lines podcast, you'd understand math

1827
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 13: is hard for me.

1828
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 4: Apparently nine seven and one, So what I will say

1829
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 4: that seven years?

1830
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 13: Okay, so veryly all right, So I only don't know

1831
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 13: what to do with them. I'd love to keep them

1832
01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 13: out of the playoffs, but like I can't go against

1833
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 13: all this this.

1834
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:54,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, I have an easy time. By the way,

1835
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:55,560
Speaker 4: the playoffs.

1836
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 13: Fun stat do you know what the record of the

1837
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:03,879
Speaker 13: AFC North was in p one and eleven?

1838
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 3: One and eleven, And that's with the Ravens in there,

1839
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:09,800
Speaker 3: that used to never lose a playoff and that lone

1840
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:12,839
Speaker 3: win was by the Ravens nineteen to twelve over the Falcons.

1841
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 4: Okay, we won't read until those preseason records. All right,

1842
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:17,400
Speaker 4: let's move on to a team.

1843
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 3: Oh, we do this on the other side, all right,

1844
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 3: coming up on the other side, we're gonna get to

1845
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:29,160
Speaker 3: the Bengals, the Browns, and the Steelers. How is the

1846
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:32,800
Speaker 3: AFC North gonna play out again? A year ago this

1847
01:30:32,920 --> 01:30:37,680
Speaker 3: division had four teams all with winning records? Is that

1848
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:40,960
Speaker 3: gonna happen again in twenty twenty four? This is Fox

1849
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:45,000
Speaker 3: Sports Sunday, Steve Harvey, Rich Roberger, Fox Sports Sunday Live

1850
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:48,360
Speaker 3: from the tai Iraq dot Com studios. All right, we're

1851
01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 3: going on the record here on Fox Sports Sunday.

1852
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:55,360
Speaker 4: None of this, Yeah, you know, I thought they were.

1853
01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:59,640
Speaker 3: No, We're going on the record with the entire AFC

1854
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:02,760
Speaker 3: and what kind of seasons these sixteen teams are going

1855
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:07,519
Speaker 3: to have in twenty twenty four. Bow Are producer Chris

1856
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:11,879
Speaker 3: the Master of the Board, is also weighing in their thoughts.

1857
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 3: And Rich, we have found out that although our last choice, obviously,

1858
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:19,960
Speaker 3: we are completely on different ends of the spectrum with

1859
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:24,280
Speaker 3: the Baltimore Ravens, We've been pretty close in our predictions,

1860
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:27,800
Speaker 3: and honestly so Chris and Bo. Let's go to the

1861
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:31,559
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals right now. And I'm going to ask this question,

1862
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 3: does anybody remember Joe Burrow? Because if you don't, I

1863
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:40,720
Speaker 3: do never heard of them. Yeah, Joe Burrow is going

1864
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 3: to lead the Cincinnati Bengals to an AFC North championship

1865
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:49,519
Speaker 3: this year. This is a twelve win team. Not only that,

1866
01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:52,320
Speaker 3: I'm going to say it right now, Joe Burrow will

1867
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 3: be the NFL's Most Valuable Player in twenty twenty four,

1868
01:31:57,080 --> 01:32:00,280
Speaker 3: probably be comeback Player of the Year as well. I

1869
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:03,439
Speaker 3: have not forgotten Joe Burrow. I know how good Joe

1870
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:08,720
Speaker 3: Burrow is. Joe Burrow is the one guy that is

1871
01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:12,439
Speaker 3: shown he can beat the Chiefs in the AFC. And

1872
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 3: I see Joe Burrow healthy this year. I see the

1873
01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:19,360
Speaker 3: Bengals bouncing back this year. I see the Bengals the

1874
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:22,639
Speaker 3: class of the AFC North this year. I see Joe

1875
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:26,400
Speaker 3: Burrow as MVP. So I'm picking the Bengals to win

1876
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:30,719
Speaker 3: the AFC North with a record of twelve and five.

1877
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:34,960
Speaker 5: Right, wow, wow, Again with the good teams, I count

1878
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:38,880
Speaker 5: the losses, not the wins. And outside of again, with

1879
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:42,479
Speaker 5: a super talented division that they play in, splitting the

1880
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:46,160
Speaker 5: losses in division. So I give them three losses because

1881
01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:48,960
Speaker 5: you know, maybe they'll lose to the Ravens twice and

1882
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 5: they'll beat the Browns twice.

1883
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:51,639
Speaker 4: They have a last play schedule.

1884
01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:53,240
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, So there you go.

1885
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:56,240
Speaker 5: So they get they get three losses off the top,

1886
01:32:56,760 --> 01:33:00,760
Speaker 5: but I've only been able to count from there two

1887
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:04,760
Speaker 5: more losses, and so I'm right there with you. This

1888
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:07,679
Speaker 5: is a twelve win football team. They finish one win

1889
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 5: behind the Ravens, so they do emerge as a wildcard

1890
01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:15,000
Speaker 5: out of the AFC North. This is an incredible bounce

1891
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:18,960
Speaker 5: back season for Joe Burrow because the rist is ready.

1892
01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:22,240
Speaker 5: He does a better job of protecting himself. They do

1893
01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:25,040
Speaker 5: a better job of protecting him, both with the scheme

1894
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:29,200
Speaker 5: and also from an offensive line standpoint. They highlight the

1895
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:31,920
Speaker 5: run game better than they've had in years past. They

1896
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:34,479
Speaker 5: get things worked out with Jamar Chase. I got the

1897
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:36,720
Speaker 5: Bengals as a twelve win wildcard team.

1898
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 2: Wow.

1899
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:39,599
Speaker 3: So I have him a twelve win division winner and

1900
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:42,200
Speaker 3: you have him as a twelve win wildcard team.

1901
01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:45,000
Speaker 10: Well, yeah, I think the Bengals are winning thirteen games

1902
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:45,599
Speaker 10: in the division.

1903
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:46,640
Speaker 4: Wow.

1904
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:49,439
Speaker 10: Yeah. I believe in Joe Burrow. I kind of wavered

1905
01:33:49,479 --> 01:33:52,840
Speaker 10: on that back and forth. But Joe Burrow is He's good.

1906
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:55,800
Speaker 10: He's still Joe Burrow. So I do trust them to

1907
01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 10: get the Jamar Chase situation figured out before the season starts.

1908
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:02,160
Speaker 10: If not, soon into the season where that won't hang

1909
01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:05,280
Speaker 10: over their year. But yeah, I just like the Bengals,

1910
01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:06,479
Speaker 10: and I like what they're doing, and I think they're

1911
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:08,240
Speaker 10: just a step above everybody else in that division.

1912
01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:11,839
Speaker 3: So you got the Bengals at thirteen wins and division champions?

1913
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 4: Yes, all right? Have I whence did you have for

1914
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:14,880
Speaker 4: the Ravens again?

1915
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:16,040
Speaker 10: Eleven?

1916
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:16,800
Speaker 4: Eleven? All right?

1917
01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:19,439
Speaker 3: So they're in the mix, possibly for wildcard or they're

1918
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 3: solidly wildcard, solidly.

1919
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:23,160
Speaker 10: Wild I think they're solidly wildcard.

1920
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:25,840
Speaker 3: Heah, okay, Chris, where do you stand on the Cincinnati

1921
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:26,479
Speaker 3: Bengals team?

1922
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:28,360
Speaker 8: Who?

1923
01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:31,800
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think we're gonna be going across the board here.

1924
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:35,519
Speaker 13: I'm you know, I'll talk myself up to thirteen wins. Sure,

1925
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 13: why not? I will talk myself up to thirteen wins

1926
01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:40,600
Speaker 13: here on the Cincinnati Bengals. I think they're headed in

1927
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 13: the head and shoulders above the rest of the AFC

1928
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:48,880
Speaker 13: North Joe Burrow if healthy is fantastic? Can we also

1929
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:51,559
Speaker 13: talk about them actually putting some investment now into a

1930
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 13: lot of their offensive line too?

1931
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:53,599
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1932
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:57,080
Speaker 13: And very fun fact, you want to talk about their

1933
01:34:57,160 --> 01:35:01,559
Speaker 13: center Ted Karras, Yeah, he is related to Alex Carris.

1934
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:04,559
Speaker 4: Who's brother was by the way, who had a brother

1935
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:07,599
Speaker 4: named Ted Carris by the way light in the NFL.

1936
01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:10,479
Speaker 13: Yeah, Alex Carris way back, one of the greats in

1937
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:14,040
Speaker 13: Detroit Lions legends, and stiff down to the NFL because

1938
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 13: of gambling.

1939
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:19,240
Speaker 3: He bet on the Lions to win. That's what happened.

1940
01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 3: He and Paul Horney got suspended. Patty on the Packers

1941
01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:25,760
Speaker 3: to win. During that season sixty two, the Packers and

1942
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:27,920
Speaker 3: the Lions were the two best teams in the NFL,

1943
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:29,960
Speaker 3: and so to make some extra money, they bet on

1944
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:31,760
Speaker 3: their teams to win, which means they want a lot

1945
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 3: of money that year.

1946
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:34,639
Speaker 4: Go only pawn in Game of life.

1947
01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:34,920
Speaker 2: No.

1948
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 3: I love the fact that both were suspended for an

1949
01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:39,879
Speaker 3: entire year and both eventually dig get into the profile.

1950
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:42,519
Speaker 13: The only real issue I have with the Bengals right

1951
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 13: now is I don't know if Zach Moss can really

1952
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:48,280
Speaker 13: be your bell Weather running back and get you good running.

1953
01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:50,360
Speaker 4: But hey, that's why you have Joe Burrow.

1954
01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:54,280
Speaker 3: Yeah all right, so we okay, do we run the

1955
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:55,920
Speaker 3: board again?

1956
01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:58,519
Speaker 4: Who did not have them winning the division?

1957
01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:02,200
Speaker 2: You don't have I have them as a wildcard.

1958
01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:03,440
Speaker 4: You have him as a wildcard.

1959
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:05,759
Speaker 3: Okay, so yes, because he has the Ravens with thirteen

1960
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:09,400
Speaker 3: wins winning. Okay, all right, but we all have the

1961
01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:11,639
Speaker 3: Bengals as a playoff team.

1962
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:11,920
Speaker 2: No question.

1963
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:19,400
Speaker 5: Sorry, North Winners for Chris and for yourself and for both.

1964
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:20,920
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, there we go.

1965
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:24,160
Speaker 3: Okay, Now let's move on to the Cleveland Browns, and

1966
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:29,479
Speaker 3: this is a very difficult team to predict because of

1967
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:34,559
Speaker 3: the quarterback situation. Here's my thoughts on DeShawn Watson. The

1968
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:38,120
Speaker 3: last time we saw Deshaun Watson on the field, Richie

1969
01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:41,879
Speaker 3: and I were on the air, and he had literally

1970
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:45,479
Speaker 3: a perfect half of football. Remember the comeback he led

1971
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:48,080
Speaker 3: in his last game, and then after the game was

1972
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:51,280
Speaker 3: announced he had like a season ending injury.

1973
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:51,800
Speaker 2: Yep.

1974
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:55,519
Speaker 3: But the last time we actually saw Deshaun Watson on

1975
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:59,000
Speaker 3: the field for the Cleveland Browns, he played a near

1976
01:36:59,120 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 3: perfect half of full.

1977
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:00,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1978
01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:05,759
Speaker 5: He when he's healthy, he hasn't been bad. The problem

1979
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:07,240
Speaker 5: is he hasn't been.

1980
01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:10,880
Speaker 3: Healthy, right, And obviously they were able to make the

1981
01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:14,080
Speaker 3: playoffs get eleven wins. This is a team that had

1982
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:16,719
Speaker 3: the NFL Defensive Player of the Year and Miles Garrett

1983
01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:18,960
Speaker 3: the NFL Coach of the Year. In Stefanski, they had

1984
01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:24,000
Speaker 3: the comeback player of the Year in Joe Flacco. I

1985
01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:26,800
Speaker 3: am the Browns won eleven games a year ago, and

1986
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:28,800
Speaker 3: I don't see a lot of drop off. This is

1987
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:32,360
Speaker 3: still a really good defensive team with good defensive personnel,

1988
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:35,400
Speaker 3: and I'm going to believe in Deshaun Watson to get

1989
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 3: enough done. I have the Cleveland Browns at ten and seven,

1990
01:37:42,200 --> 01:37:48,360
Speaker 3: and I have the Cleveland Browns as a wild card team. Okay,

1991
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:50,760
Speaker 3: So I think the Browns because remember I have the

1992
01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:54,040
Speaker 3: Ravens not a wildcard team at nine to eight. I

1993
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:57,000
Speaker 3: think the Browns finish ahead of the Ravens this year.

1994
01:37:57,479 --> 01:37:59,240
Speaker 3: So I'm going to go with the Browns at ten

1995
01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 3: and seven and they will be a wild card team.

1996
01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:08,639
Speaker 5: Rich, Okay, I look at this a little bit differently.

1997
01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:09,679
Speaker 2: I don't.

1998
01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:12,200
Speaker 5: I'm not as sold on the Browns as you are

1999
01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:18,280
Speaker 5: in terms of what happened last year and repeatable success.

2000
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 5: I think they got insanely lucky last year. I think

2001
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:25,200
Speaker 5: they got better than average quarterback play from very average

2002
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:30,599
Speaker 5: quarterbacks outside of Joe Flacco. He's elite as covered again.

2003
01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:34,559
Speaker 5: In hyper competitive divisions like the AFC North, I always say,

2004
01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:36,880
Speaker 5: all right, I'm gonna hand you three losses because I'm

2005
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:39,679
Speaker 5: assuming you're gonna split with your you know your opponents

2006
01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:42,360
Speaker 5: who you play in division, and then I'm gonna say

2007
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:44,759
Speaker 5: they lose on the road to the Jaguars, they lose

2008
01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:48,080
Speaker 5: on the road to the Eagles, they get beat by

2009
01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:50,800
Speaker 5: the Chiefs, they get beat by the Dolphins. That's four

2010
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:54,080
Speaker 5: more wins or excuse me, four more losses.

2011
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:56,360
Speaker 2: So I look at.

2012
01:38:56,439 --> 01:38:59,240
Speaker 5: And then honestly, they're gonna they're gonna trip up somewhere.

2013
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:02,200
Speaker 5: So I have them as a nine win team. I

2014
01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:06,200
Speaker 5: have the Browns as being a nine win team, and

2015
01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:09,040
Speaker 5: I think this will be the first year that Deshaun

2016
01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:11,439
Speaker 5: Watson makes it through the majority of the season.

2017
01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 2: And I think that's about where he's at.

2018
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:19,799
Speaker 5: He's kind of a mediocre quarterback as he approaches thirty,

2019
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:22,400
Speaker 5: like a lot of dual threat quarterbacks see Russell Wilson

2020
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:23,640
Speaker 5: for details.

2021
01:39:23,720 --> 01:39:26,880
Speaker 3: All right, so I have him as a ten win team. Wildcard.

2022
01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:29,080
Speaker 3: You have as a nine win team, no wildcard?

2023
01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:29,639
Speaker 2: Correct?

2024
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 3: All right, pretty close there. But where do you stand

2025
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:34,000
Speaker 3: on the Cleveland Browns.

2026
01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:38,200
Speaker 10: I think the Browns are gonna win six games this year.

2027
01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:38,719
Speaker 4: Wow.

2028
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:42,519
Speaker 10: I still believe in their defense. But Deshaun Watson has

2029
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:46,200
Speaker 10: played like three meaningful football games in the last ten years.

2030
01:39:46,240 --> 01:39:48,920
Speaker 10: It feels like so it's tough to know what you're

2031
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:50,639
Speaker 10: gonna get out him, and he hasn't. He hasn't looked

2032
01:39:50,640 --> 01:39:54,680
Speaker 10: good when he's played. So again, if with.

2033
01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:57,000
Speaker 3: That defense to win six games, he would have to

2034
01:39:57,080 --> 01:39:59,720
Speaker 3: have a disastrous season or just be wiped out with it.

2035
01:39:59,800 --> 01:40:05,080
Speaker 10: Which I think both are possible. Wow, all right, Son.

2036
01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:07,639
Speaker 3: Brown's completely hit the skids. According to Bo Chris, where

2037
01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:08,840
Speaker 3: are you on the Browns?

2038
01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:12,040
Speaker 13: I've got them at about seven wins here my main

2039
01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:14,160
Speaker 13: concern for them. I'll get to Watson to the quarterback

2040
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:16,080
Speaker 13: in a second, but are they really going to be

2041
01:40:16,120 --> 01:40:18,400
Speaker 13: ready to go for the year. This is already a

2042
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:21,760
Speaker 13: very snake bitten team as far as injury, I think

2043
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:24,479
Speaker 13: they're going to get back Nick Chubb and Jack Conklin soon,

2044
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:28,719
Speaker 13: but no real time line I think for Jedrick Wills

2045
01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:34,479
Speaker 13: or Dolvin Tomlinson or Greg Newsom. So that's like big

2046
01:40:34,479 --> 01:40:39,120
Speaker 13: contributors are both their offense and offensive line and defense

2047
01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:42,559
Speaker 13: that are already kind of banged up to start the year.

2048
01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:46,320
Speaker 13: I don't know about the health of David and Joko either.

2049
01:40:46,479 --> 01:40:49,080
Speaker 13: I don't think Jerry Judy is a very meaningful pickup

2050
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:52,000
Speaker 13: for them at wide receiver. And yeah, like I need

2051
01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:55,280
Speaker 13: to see like bo like it's been a long time

2052
01:40:55,280 --> 01:40:59,519
Speaker 13: since we've seen Deshaun Watson throw or be healthy ends

2053
01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:02,840
Speaker 13: to be on honest, there's no cavalry coming. In the

2054
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:07,799
Speaker 13: words of Rick Pattino, Joe Flacco isn't walking through that door, fans,

2055
01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:10,360
Speaker 13: because the rest of their roster right now before cuts

2056
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:14,200
Speaker 13: is Jameis Winston, Tyler Huntley, and Dorian Thompson Robinson.

2057
01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:16,840
Speaker 4: And if you, if anyone of you, if you Steve

2058
01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:21,240
Speaker 4: dr Man, if you see him last year.

2059
01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:23,360
Speaker 13: If you try to convince me on Jameis Winston, I

2060
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:25,320
Speaker 13: mean this to anyone here, if you try to sell

2061
01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:26,720
Speaker 13: me at all on Jameis Winston, I will come and

2062
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:29,840
Speaker 13: throw the speaker at you, this subwhiffer at you, like

2063
01:41:30,080 --> 01:41:34,439
Speaker 13: I've had enough of Jameis Winston. I So yeah, suspect

2064
01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:38,799
Speaker 13: quarterback play already banged up. As my co host podcast

2065
01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:43,680
Speaker 13: co host Ryan Matthews would say, the best ability is availability,

2066
01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:46,000
Speaker 13: and I'm not sure the Browns can really fulfill that.

2067
01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:49,760
Speaker 13: I'm key positions kind of feels like a set, like

2068
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:51,920
Speaker 13: you know, they'll get it back together, but it's probably

2069
01:41:51,960 --> 01:41:53,040
Speaker 13: a seven and ten season.

2070
01:41:53,120 --> 01:41:56,000
Speaker 4: All right, Well, I'm the only real believer in the Browns.

2071
01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:58,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's right. That's right.

2072
01:41:58,080 --> 01:42:01,519
Speaker 5: That that that is accurate because I think like Bo

2073
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:05,040
Speaker 5: and Chris, I think a little bit more of him

2074
01:42:05,200 --> 01:42:09,920
Speaker 5: and really Kevin Stefanski in that defense's task ahead of them.

2075
01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:12,080
Speaker 5: They know they're gonna have to coach around the quarterback

2076
01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:14,639
Speaker 5: position a little bit this year. But yeah, you're the

2077
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:18,000
Speaker 5: only true believer that the Browns can pull off something specialist.

2078
01:42:18,160 --> 01:42:21,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I still believe in Deshaun Watson, certainly more so

2079
01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:24,320
Speaker 3: than any of you guys. All Right, we'll finish off

2080
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:27,080
Speaker 3: the AFC North with the Steelers on the other side.

2081
01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:30,599
Speaker 3: But first let's find out what is trending. All right,

2082
01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:35,680
Speaker 3: let's go back to you, Martin on the AFC South, Texans, Jaguars,

2083
01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:36,800
Speaker 3: Colts and Titans.

2084
01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:39,280
Speaker 4: Who do you have winning that division? Texans?

2085
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:41,760
Speaker 11: I think you guys are all tripping you guys say that?

2086
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:44,640
Speaker 11: Hell yeah, I mean because also too, like C. J.

2087
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:46,439
Speaker 4: Stroud had a.

2088
01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:48,519
Speaker 12: Great start to the year, then I know we don't

2089
01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:50,520
Speaker 12: like to talk about this out Loud got a concussion

2090
01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:53,439
Speaker 12: and didn't finish the year as strong as he started.

2091
01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:56,280
Speaker 4: It, right, but it's still pretty okay. So you're saying

2092
01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:57,960
Speaker 4: that Trevor Lawrence sucks.

2093
01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:01,840
Speaker 11: I mean, at this point, I think he is who

2094
01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:02,240
Speaker 11: he is.

2095
01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:06,080
Speaker 3: Well, he's a team that's had back to back winning seasons.

2096
01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:08,280
Speaker 11: Yeah, I believe that's who he.

2097
01:43:08,439 --> 01:43:11,480
Speaker 13: Just the five hundred to make a winning seasons, Steelers

2098
01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:12,080
Speaker 13: winning season.

2099
01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:14,760
Speaker 4: That was a team that was a.

2100
01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:17,479
Speaker 3: Team that before back to back winning seasons, won one

2101
01:43:17,600 --> 01:43:21,559
Speaker 3: game and then won three games before last from four.

2102
01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:25,160
Speaker 4: To wins eighteen wins over two seasons. All right, that's fine.

2103
01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:26,519
Speaker 4: Texas went from three to ten.

2104
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:29,240
Speaker 12: You know, if they were good, if they win eight

2105
01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:31,240
Speaker 12: this year, they'll go from three to eighteen too.

2106
01:43:31,760 --> 01:43:34,160
Speaker 3: Well, you know what, that's what I have. The Texans

2107
01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:36,439
Speaker 3: winning is eight games, but you have winning the division.

2108
01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:38,479
Speaker 3: Any wild cards out of this division for you?

2109
01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:42,920
Speaker 4: Jacks? Colts are Titans? No? No, okay, yes, Survey says no.

2110
01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:45,160
Speaker 4: All right, Martin, What is happening out there?

2111
01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:47,160
Speaker 12: A team that will not be a wild card in

2112
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:49,400
Speaker 12: my opinion? At least Tennessee Titans right now leading the

2113
01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:51,160
Speaker 12: Saints at the half in the.

2114
01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:52,880
Speaker 11: Third preseason game for both teams.

2115
01:43:52,920 --> 01:43:55,280
Speaker 12: Will Levis got to start seven for eight, one hundred

2116
01:43:55,280 --> 01:43:58,720
Speaker 12: and eighteen yards passing. Tony Pollard was also out there,

2117
01:43:58,760 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 12: Calvin Ridley out there.

2118
01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:02,519
Speaker 11: Mason Rudolph is now manning the squad.

2119
01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:06,280
Speaker 12: The Saints have a conundrument backup quarterback Spencer Rattler and

2120
01:44:06,360 --> 01:44:08,559
Speaker 12: Jake Hayner. Spencer Rattler five for nine to fifty three

2121
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:11,120
Speaker 12: yards and a touchdown. Jake Hayn three for seven for

2122
01:44:11,200 --> 01:44:14,559
Speaker 12: twenty three yards. Samson Nakua. In this game, Pokah's brother

2123
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:20,960
Speaker 12: was this close, this close, so returning a field goal

2124
01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:23,439
Speaker 12: for a touchdown, it would have been one hundred and

2125
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:26,280
Speaker 12: five yards. It would have been an eight hundred and

2126
01:44:26,280 --> 01:44:29,479
Speaker 12: five yard touchdown. He stepped out of bounds, so those

2127
01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:33,240
Speaker 12: nasty sidelines keeping him from a play of a lifetime.

2128
01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:36,519
Speaker 12: Even though it is the preseason in Major League Baseball,

2129
01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:38,200
Speaker 12: the Tigers have tied it up with the White Sox

2130
01:44:38,240 --> 01:44:40,080
Speaker 12: three to three. The basis loaded nobody out in the

2131
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:44,120
Speaker 12: fifth inning. Miami and the Cubs right now three to one. Marlins.

2132
01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:46,840
Speaker 12: Cubs were threatening in the last half inning but did

2133
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:49,719
Speaker 12: not convert. Yankees had to lead in the Al East.

2134
01:44:49,800 --> 01:44:52,360
Speaker 12: They leading the Colorado Rockies as well, four to three.

2135
01:44:52,360 --> 01:44:54,840
Speaker 12: In the six Red Sox fighting for that wild card

2136
01:44:54,840 --> 01:44:57,960
Speaker 12: spot in the AL they're training the Diamondbacks six to

2137
01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:02,000
Speaker 12: four in the eighth, Cleveland, trying to hang on to

2138
01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:05,040
Speaker 12: the Ale Central lead two to one over the Rangers

2139
01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:08,040
Speaker 12: in the seventh. Minnesota, trying to take that Ale Central

2140
01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:11,960
Speaker 12: lead from Cleveland, Minnesota with at tide right now with

2141
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:15,160
Speaker 12: the Saint Louis Cardinals one in the sixth inning. The

2142
01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:18,200
Speaker 12: Aces beat the Sky earlier today, seventy seven to seventy five.

2143
01:45:18,320 --> 01:45:20,320
Speaker 12: Asia Wilson with the game when he jumper to close

2144
01:45:20,360 --> 01:45:24,280
Speaker 12: out Chicago. Vegas improved through seventeen and eleven. Jamar Chay's

2145
01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:27,720
Speaker 12: practice today Cincinnati Bengals wide receiver his first practice of

2146
01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:30,120
Speaker 12: camp as he's still winning for a long term deal.

2147
01:45:30,479 --> 01:45:34,000
Speaker 12: Dolphins released quarterback Mike White, and the Rams have granted

2148
01:45:34,080 --> 01:45:37,160
Speaker 12: starting linebacker Ernest j Jones permission to seek a trade.

2149
01:45:37,200 --> 01:45:40,639
Speaker 12: Jones Ramams leaguean tackler last year, finally Rivers contract.

2150
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:43,280
Speaker 11: They've also released running back Boston Sky.

2151
01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 12: And I'll tell you what this Spencer Rattler throw for

2152
01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:48,640
Speaker 12: a touchdown. I don't care if it's preseason, Steve. That

2153
01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:49,280
Speaker 12: was beautiful.

2154
01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:50,200
Speaker 4: I saw the pass.

2155
01:45:50,360 --> 01:45:53,080
Speaker 3: It was It was a really nice pass by Rattler

2156
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:54,559
Speaker 3: you know he's got talent.

2157
01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:55,920
Speaker 4: I'm waestion about that.

2158
01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:57,840
Speaker 12: I think it's time for the Spencer Ratley era to

2159
01:45:57,880 --> 01:45:59,120
Speaker 12: start in New Orleans.

2160
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:01,200
Speaker 4: Fac that you guys all right, Well, we'll see if

2161
01:46:01,240 --> 01:46:01,839
Speaker 4: that happens.

2162
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:06,040
Speaker 3: Not anytime soon, but I think Spencer Rattler has definitely

2163
01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:08,520
Speaker 3: punched his ticket into the NFL.

2164
01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:10,760
Speaker 4: Thank you, Mark. We'll check in with you a little

2165
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:11,439
Speaker 4: bit later on.

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Speaker 3: buy should be all right. We've been talking about the

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Speaker 3: AFC North. I think we all agree it's still going

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Speaker 3: to be a really, really good division coming up here

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four. Although a couple of guys here

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Speaker 3: Bo and Chris are predicting that the Browns will collapse

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Speaker 3: essentially in twenty twenty four, I think they sneak in

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Speaker 3: as a wild card. Do you at least have them

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Speaker 3: with a winning record at nine and eight? Rich one

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Speaker 3: last team in this division, and that is the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 3: I love the fact that Mike Tomlin praised Russell Wilson

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Speaker 3: for his final preseason performance but refuse to name him

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Speaker 3: as the starting quarterback. He says he will announce his

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01:47:27,400 --> 01:47:30,559
Speaker 3: starting quarterback at the end of this week. I have

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Speaker 3: no idea what's going to happen between now and the

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Speaker 3: end of the week or why there's such a delay.

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Speaker 3: I assume that Russell Wilson will start the season as

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Speaker 3: that quarterback. Whether he remains in that job, we will

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Speaker 3: have to see. Here's what I have to say about

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Speaker 3: the Steelers. A year ago, they won ten games with

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Speaker 3: some of the worst quarterback play we've ever seen. Mason Rudolph,

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01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:56,120
Speaker 3: of all guys that really gave him their best quarterback play.

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Speaker 3: He's no longer there, obviously, But I refuse to say

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Speaker 3: this team will collapse because Mike Tomlin has never had

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01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:08,320
Speaker 3: a losing season. So I will say this, I think

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Speaker 3: the Steelers limp through the season. Their defense will keep

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01:48:12,640 --> 01:48:15,080
Speaker 3: them in games. I don't think they're going to get

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01:48:15,160 --> 01:48:18,839
Speaker 3: any extraordinary play out of Russell Wilson or Justin Fields

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01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:21,280
Speaker 3: this year, but I also don't think they'll have a

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Speaker 3: losing record. I think Tomlin figures out a way again

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01:48:24,160 --> 01:48:27,120
Speaker 3: to sneak out nine wins. It will not be enough

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01:48:27,120 --> 01:48:29,080
Speaker 3: to get in as a wild card. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if that's going to mean the end for Mike Tomlin again.

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Speaker 3: He hasn't won a playoff game since twenty sixteen. But

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Speaker 3: he's only fifty two years old.

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01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:38,880
Speaker 4: He's only fifty two.

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01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:42,120
Speaker 3: He was thirty five when he got the job as

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01:48:42,160 --> 01:48:47,479
Speaker 3: the Steelers head coach. His resume screams Canton. I don't

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01:48:47,479 --> 01:48:49,479
Speaker 3: know if the Steelers going to stay with him. I

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01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:52,040
Speaker 3: don't know if there's a necessary change. I think he

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01:48:52,080 --> 01:48:56,000
Speaker 3: does as much with less than any coach in this league.

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01:48:56,560 --> 01:48:59,519
Speaker 3: But it won't be enough. Nine and eight Steelers do

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01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:00,600
Speaker 3: not make playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right?

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Speaker 5: So I have the Steelers as a ten win team. Wow,

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01:49:06,479 --> 01:49:10,280
Speaker 5: And we have the inverse opinions of the Browns and

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01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:12,719
Speaker 5: the Steelers. So you have the Browns at ten wins,

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01:49:12,720 --> 01:49:15,200
Speaker 5: Steelers at nine. I have the Steelers at ten wins,

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01:49:15,200 --> 01:49:18,040
Speaker 5: Browns at nine, and I do think that they make

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01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:21,160
Speaker 5: it in as a wildcard, and actually because they make

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01:49:21,200 --> 01:49:24,240
Speaker 5: it in as a wildcard, a team who we have

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01:49:24,479 --> 01:49:28,680
Speaker 5: yet to discuss gets left out, and that's going to

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01:49:28,680 --> 01:49:31,160
Speaker 5: be an interesting discussion here coming up in just a

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01:49:31,200 --> 01:49:34,960
Speaker 5: little bit. Okay, But I see them as again hyper

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01:49:34,960 --> 01:49:40,640
Speaker 5: competitive division. They're gonna split losses with opponents in the division,

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01:49:40,760 --> 01:49:43,400
Speaker 5: so they get three off the top, and then when

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01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:46,840
Speaker 5: you start going through their schedule, they run into some

2233
01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:49,439
Speaker 5: tough matchups late in the season with the Chiefs and

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01:49:49,479 --> 01:49:51,840
Speaker 5: the Eagles, especially the Eagles being on the road.

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Speaker 2: I have a lot of respect for.

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01:49:53,280 --> 01:49:57,280
Speaker 5: The Cowboys over the past couple of seasons with Dak

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01:49:57,320 --> 01:50:00,880
Speaker 5: Prescott at the helm. Assuming that they work the I

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01:50:00,920 --> 01:50:03,320
Speaker 5: feel like that's a loss on the Steelers schedule.

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Speaker 2: Also, I could see them losing the opener on the

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Speaker 2: road at Atlanta.

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Speaker 5: So that's four losses right there, and outside of the

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01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:12,799
Speaker 5: three that I'm giving them in division, that seven losses,

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01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:15,519
Speaker 5: it's a ten win season and it's enough to get

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Speaker 5: Tomlin in the playoffs again.

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Speaker 3: All right, So I have them nine wins missing the playoffs,

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01:50:20,280 --> 01:50:23,400
Speaker 3: which has the ten wins getting in as a wild

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01:50:23,680 --> 01:50:24,320
Speaker 3: card bow.

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Speaker 4: Where do you stand on the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 10: I think this is the season where Mike Tomlin's magic

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Speaker 10: runs out and the Steelers have a just a bad

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Speaker 10: year because I don't think either of the guys they

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01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:36,599
Speaker 10: have a quarterback can actually play quarterback in the NFL anymore.

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01:50:37,439 --> 01:50:39,519
Speaker 10: I don't think Russell Wilson is I think I think

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01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:42,439
Speaker 10: Russell Wilson is one of the most overrated players still

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Speaker 10: playing in the game today, given that everyone always points

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Speaker 10: to the stats he had last year but just didn't

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Speaker 10: watch the games where he was completely ineffective. And I

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01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:52,160
Speaker 10: don't think Justin Fields can play at the NFL level.

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01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:53,840
Speaker 10: I just don't see it from him. I haven't seen

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01:50:53,880 --> 01:50:56,240
Speaker 10: him for four years. So I don't think they have

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01:50:56,240 --> 01:50:58,200
Speaker 10: a quarterback, and there's only so much of the TJ.

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01:50:58,280 --> 01:51:00,599
Speaker 10: Watt can do, especially in this vision. So I think

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01:51:00,640 --> 01:51:04,839
Speaker 10: they're gonna win four games.

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01:51:05,200 --> 01:51:05,920
Speaker 4: I'll put it this way.

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01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:08,559
Speaker 3: If they go four and thirteen, Mike Tomlins running with

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01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:10,400
Speaker 3: the Steelers will be overhalled.

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01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:12,200
Speaker 2: Especially with that defense.

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01:51:12,800 --> 01:51:15,720
Speaker 5: The only way bo that I could see them losing it.

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01:51:16,200 --> 01:51:17,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's wild.

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01:51:17,520 --> 01:51:20,559
Speaker 5: The only way I could see the Steelers conceivably losing

2271
01:51:20,680 --> 01:51:24,280
Speaker 5: thirteen games is if everybody on defense gets hurt.

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Speaker 10: I know, yeah, I mean, I just think that as

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01:51:27,600 --> 01:51:29,519
Speaker 10: good as your defense is, and I'm not taking anything

2274
01:51:29,560 --> 01:51:32,919
Speaker 10: away from them, both their quarterbacks can be turnover machines

2275
01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:35,000
Speaker 10: and at some point the defense is just gonna break.

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01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:38,320
Speaker 10: If they're constantly being backed up in their own territory.

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Speaker 4: I will run off their back heels again.

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01:51:40,160 --> 01:51:44,599
Speaker 5: Last year's quarterbacks were Kenny Pickett, Mitchell Trubisky, and Mason Rudolph.

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01:51:44,720 --> 01:51:47,080
Speaker 3: Right, and Rudolph looked like a world beater, and they

2280
01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:48,120
Speaker 3: might have gotten worse.

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01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:50,679
Speaker 10: Oh no, they might have gotten worse.

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01:51:50,880 --> 01:51:53,920
Speaker 4: Quarterback say, okay, we're on the record. Right now, We're

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01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:54,599
Speaker 4: on the records.

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01:51:55,040 --> 01:51:56,720
Speaker 2: I love this is so much fun.

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01:51:56,760 --> 01:51:59,200
Speaker 6: By the way to do it, I know, this is,

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01:51:59,240 --> 01:52:01,400
Speaker 6: this is what it's Oh, this is whatever I wants

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01:52:01,400 --> 01:52:04,880
Speaker 6: to do, all right for Chris final say on the Steelers,

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01:52:05,640 --> 01:52:08,680
Speaker 6: I don't like the Steelers outlook, but can I just

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01:52:08,760 --> 01:52:09,840
Speaker 6: say that, you know.

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Speaker 13: There's a lot of reasonable reasons to say why this

2291
01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:15,720
Speaker 13: is not going to be good. Their offense is rudderless

2292
01:52:15,760 --> 01:52:19,240
Speaker 13: without a paddle, and the the off the defense is

2293
01:52:19,240 --> 01:52:20,880
Speaker 13: being asked to shoulder a lot. I agree with a

2294
01:52:20,920 --> 01:52:23,200
Speaker 13: lot of what bo is bringing to the table, but

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01:52:23,400 --> 01:52:26,200
Speaker 13: I want to go metaphysical for a second because I

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01:52:26,200 --> 01:52:28,600
Speaker 13: think this let's just rip the bandit off. I have

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01:52:28,720 --> 01:52:31,439
Speaker 13: them as a six win team. But I don't put

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01:52:31,560 --> 01:52:35,200
Speaker 13: any of this on Mike Tomlin. But but I think

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01:52:35,200 --> 01:52:36,600
Speaker 13: we have to have a discussion.

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01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:37,479
Speaker 4: At this point.

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01:52:37,640 --> 01:52:41,080
Speaker 13: Russell Wilson is and I'm going biblical here a little bit.

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01:52:41,400 --> 01:52:45,400
Speaker 13: He is a Jonah. I think wherever Russell Wilson is

2303
01:52:45,439 --> 01:52:49,120
Speaker 13: going at this point, it's inviting bad luck upon you,

2304
01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:52,400
Speaker 13: like like the wrath of God upon you. I can't

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01:52:52,479 --> 01:52:55,559
Speaker 13: explain how. I mean a lot of it has to

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01:52:55,560 --> 01:52:57,240
Speaker 13: do with how he's bad, But the rest of the

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01:52:57,240 --> 01:53:01,439
Speaker 13: Broncos were not good either, and I just felt like

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01:53:01,479 --> 01:53:02,920
Speaker 13: that with the Seahawks at the end.

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Speaker 4: I really do think something is cursed here.

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01:53:05,640 --> 01:53:10,759
Speaker 13: But even going back to the physical material, realm Russell Wilson,

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01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:14,439
Speaker 13: justin Fields, I'm sorry, this is a non starter for me.

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01:53:14,600 --> 01:53:17,320
Speaker 13: This team is a non starter, like six wins.

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Speaker 3: Well, I will say this if Russell Wilson gets off

2314
01:53:19,960 --> 01:53:24,599
Speaker 3: to a bad start, he will be benched immediately and

2315
01:53:24,840 --> 01:53:27,720
Speaker 3: they will go to a bad start and we'll see

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01:53:27,720 --> 01:53:29,880
Speaker 3: where they go with that. But they're not gonna they

2317
01:53:29,920 --> 01:53:32,760
Speaker 3: got a short rope on Russell Wilson, I promise you that.

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01:53:33,560 --> 01:53:36,880
Speaker 3: All right, So, as far as the AFC North is concerned,

2319
01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:40,080
Speaker 3: let's go through all of our picks. In my book,

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01:53:40,120 --> 01:53:43,640
Speaker 3: I have the Bengals winning this division and I have

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Speaker 3: the Browns getting in as a wild card.

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Speaker 11: Rich.

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01:53:48,200 --> 01:53:48,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: In terms of this one, I have three playoff teams, yes,

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Speaker 5: you do. I have the Ravens winning the North with thirteen,

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Speaker 5: the Bengals a close second with twelve wins, and wildcard

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01:54:00,720 --> 01:54:05,240
Speaker 5: berth the Steelers with ten wins and also wildcard. Again,

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01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:07,719
Speaker 5: there's a team we haven't mentioned yet that they're gonna

2329
01:54:07,760 --> 01:54:10,200
Speaker 5: read out for that final wildcard. We'll get to that later,

2330
01:54:10,280 --> 01:54:13,000
Speaker 5: and the Browns at nine wins. All teams in the

2331
01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:14,839
Speaker 5: North finish with winning records.

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Speaker 3: Okay, And both of you, guys, Chris and Bo in

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01:54:17,960 --> 01:54:22,040
Speaker 3: this division, you had the Bengals winning the division.

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01:54:22,160 --> 01:54:24,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we both had the Bengals winning. And do

2335
01:54:24,360 --> 01:54:25,960
Speaker 4: you have wildcards in this division?

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01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:28,680
Speaker 13: I have the Ravens as a wild card, gave them

2337
01:54:29,280 --> 01:54:30,400
Speaker 13: nine wins in a tie.

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Speaker 3: And you also have the Ravens as a wildcard in

2339
01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:34,920
Speaker 3: this division. All right, So the AFC North is in

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01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:38,720
Speaker 3: the books, which means we have one division left and

2341
01:54:38,800 --> 01:54:45,080
Speaker 3: this is another really interesting it's the AFC East. Can

2342
01:54:45,120 --> 01:54:50,080
Speaker 3: the Bills reign supreme? Will Aaron Rodgers find his way

2343
01:54:50,320 --> 01:54:52,440
Speaker 3: to the Promised Land as a jet?

2344
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:55,600
Speaker 4: We'll break it down. This is Fox Sports Sunday.

2345
01:54:55,400 --> 01:54:58,360
Speaker 3: Steve Harvey, Rich Harnberger, Fox Sports Sunday.

2346
01:54:58,400 --> 01:55:01,760
Speaker 4: We are live from the tire dot Com studios.

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Speaker 3: All Right, guys, I'm gonna save that AFC East for

2348
01:55:06,360 --> 01:55:08,360
Speaker 3: the top of the next hour. I don't want to

2349
01:55:08,440 --> 01:55:10,839
Speaker 3: rush through it. You know, we got that's a tough division.

2350
01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:12,880
Speaker 3: I mean that that is a division has got a

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01:55:12,920 --> 01:55:15,040
Speaker 3: lot of everything. I did want to pause for a

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01:55:15,120 --> 01:55:18,800
Speaker 3: second here with we'll get to the pay Patriots. I'm

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01:55:18,800 --> 01:55:23,320
Speaker 3: I'm going in alphabetical orders, so it's gonna be Bills, Dolphins, Patriots,

2354
01:55:23,440 --> 01:55:26,120
Speaker 3: Jets will be the final team, I think appropriately. But anyway,

2355
01:55:26,640 --> 01:55:28,240
Speaker 3: that will be coming up at the top of the

2356
01:55:28,280 --> 01:55:32,720
Speaker 3: next hour. I did want to mention something about the

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01:55:32,760 --> 01:55:35,680
Speaker 3: Florida State Georgia Tech game yesterday.

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01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:38,280
Speaker 4: Rich It was interesting because.

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Speaker 3: Dj uyungal Lay, who played pretty well for Oregon State

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01:55:41,880 --> 01:55:42,320
Speaker 3: a year ago.

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Speaker 4: People may forget that.

2362
01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:46,840
Speaker 3: And and the reason I'm talking about DJ is that

2363
01:55:48,040 --> 01:55:51,080
Speaker 3: we my my TV station in LA did a feature

2364
01:55:51,080 --> 01:55:53,480
Speaker 3: piece on he and Bryce Young when they were seniors

2365
01:55:53,480 --> 01:55:56,320
Speaker 3: in high school. They were rated the top two high

2366
01:55:56,360 --> 01:55:59,400
Speaker 3: school quarterbacks in the country, both from southern California, and

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01:55:59,440 --> 01:56:03,000
Speaker 3: both leaving Southern California to the two top programs at

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01:56:03,000 --> 01:56:07,560
Speaker 3: the time, Alabama and Clemson. And I just remember looking

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01:56:07,600 --> 01:56:10,560
Speaker 3: at Dj, I mean, what a physical specimen, right, And

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01:56:11,040 --> 01:56:12,840
Speaker 3: I mean there was no doubt. And then remember his

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01:56:12,920 --> 01:56:15,320
Speaker 3: freshman year, he filled in a couple of games when

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01:56:15,320 --> 01:56:18,600
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence was out with COVID, and he had a

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01:56:18,680 --> 01:56:21,200
Speaker 3: huge comeback win and they threw for over four hundred

2374
01:56:21,240 --> 01:56:23,320
Speaker 3: yards on the road against Notre Dame. It looked like

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01:56:23,360 --> 01:56:25,080
Speaker 3: they weren't going to miss anything. You know, He's going

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01:56:25,160 --> 01:56:28,240
Speaker 3: to just take over as their next heisman candidate. And

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01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:32,720
Speaker 3: then the wheels fell off in Clemson. And then like

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01:56:32,760 --> 01:56:36,800
Speaker 3: I said, he resurrected himself somewhat at Oregon State. And

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Speaker 3: then of course the collapse of the Pac twelve, so

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Speaker 3: he goes to Florida State. Here's one thing to keep

2381
01:56:40,960 --> 01:56:44,400
Speaker 3: in mind about that game yesterday. There was a point

2382
01:56:44,760 --> 01:56:48,280
Speaker 3: where he was throwing to four different receivers that were

2383
01:56:48,280 --> 01:56:53,080
Speaker 3: from four different colleges. Yeah, seventeen transfers brought into Florida

2384
01:56:53,120 --> 01:56:56,440
Speaker 3: State trying to rebuild their offense, but they actually had

2385
01:56:56,600 --> 01:56:59,720
Speaker 3: They had receivers from four different schools a year ago,

2386
01:57:00,720 --> 01:57:04,840
Speaker 3: and the quarterbacks from a different school. And to think

2387
01:57:04,880 --> 01:57:06,680
Speaker 3: that they're all going to be on the same page

2388
01:57:06,720 --> 01:57:12,040
Speaker 3: week one maybe was wishful thinking. So I don't dismiss

2389
01:57:12,080 --> 01:57:14,840
Speaker 3: Florida State at all. I think that, you know, it

2390
01:57:14,880 --> 01:57:18,200
Speaker 3: was It's a reality check. But this is the day

2391
01:57:18,240 --> 01:57:21,480
Speaker 3: and age we're in now, with this the NIL money

2392
01:57:21,600 --> 01:57:25,680
Speaker 3: and the transfer portal, the idea of getting everybody on

2393
01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:29,400
Speaker 3: the same page at the college level.

2394
01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:31,200
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a big enough challenge.

2395
01:57:30,880 --> 01:57:33,480
Speaker 3: At the pro level, but at the college level, I

2396
01:57:33,480 --> 01:57:35,280
Speaker 3: don't think people are talking enough about that.

2397
01:57:35,480 --> 01:57:39,680
Speaker 5: Rich I completely agree. I completely agree with that assessment.

2398
01:57:39,800 --> 01:57:45,879
Speaker 5: I think that it is insanely difficult to work guys

2399
01:57:46,080 --> 01:57:49,720
Speaker 5: out in the spring and have a great feel for

2400
01:57:49,840 --> 01:57:53,560
Speaker 5: them as they get to training camp, and then also

2401
01:57:53,640 --> 01:57:57,120
Speaker 5: remember the work's not done by the time summer comes around.

2402
01:57:57,440 --> 01:57:59,800
Speaker 5: A lot of times, new faces are being added to

2403
01:57:59,840 --> 01:58:03,760
Speaker 5: the team, sometimes in the most important of positions, like quarterback,

2404
01:58:04,200 --> 01:58:07,400
Speaker 5: you know, And it's not plug and play all the time.

2405
01:58:07,680 --> 01:58:10,600
Speaker 5: And so as a result, we're seeing some of these

2406
01:58:10,640 --> 01:58:14,680
Speaker 5: offenses specifically because offense always takes more time to gel,

2407
01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:18,080
Speaker 5: but it happens on the defense too, taking an awful

2408
01:58:18,080 --> 01:58:19,800
Speaker 5: long time to get a.

2409
01:58:19,800 --> 01:58:21,160
Speaker 2: Little bit more cohesive.

2410
01:58:21,240 --> 01:58:23,680
Speaker 5: So those first there's gonna be a high level of

2411
01:58:23,720 --> 01:58:27,240
Speaker 5: volatility these first couple of weeks, say three weeks of

2412
01:58:27,320 --> 01:58:28,680
Speaker 5: the college football season.

2413
01:58:29,320 --> 01:58:32,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just again, I you know, having to play

2414
01:58:32,520 --> 01:58:35,200
Speaker 3: week zero, and I thought you were accurate when you

2415
01:58:35,240 --> 01:58:38,920
Speaker 3: said earlier after that, how many ranked teams really want

2416
01:58:38,960 --> 01:58:42,240
Speaker 3: to play Week zero when you have a situation like

2417
01:58:42,280 --> 01:58:44,880
Speaker 3: Florida State with a new quarterback, new receivers all from

2418
01:58:44,880 --> 01:58:48,000
Speaker 3: different schools, throw in the mix in one game.

2419
01:58:47,840 --> 01:58:48,840
Speaker 4: And let's make it work.

2420
01:58:48,880 --> 01:58:50,720
Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, we're going to travel to

2421
01:58:50,840 --> 01:58:54,520
Speaker 3: Ireland to play that game. Okay, So that was a

2422
01:58:54,520 --> 01:58:57,400
Speaker 3: lot to ask and it really backfired on Florida State.

2423
01:58:57,440 --> 01:58:59,360
Speaker 4: I also wanted to ask you this before the top

2424
01:58:59,400 --> 01:58:59,840
Speaker 4: of the hour.

2425
01:59:00,200 --> 01:59:04,240
Speaker 3: Sure, Deon Sanders, Yes, sir, so no one got more

2426
01:59:04,280 --> 01:59:06,440
Speaker 3: out of less than Deona. Year ago, he was named

2427
01:59:06,480 --> 01:59:11,720
Speaker 3: Sports Illustrated Sportsmen of the Year after leading Colorado to

2428
01:59:11,760 --> 01:59:14,400
Speaker 3: a four and eight record, including eight losses in their

2429
01:59:14,480 --> 01:59:17,480
Speaker 3: last nine games. Now he doesn't want to talk to

2430
01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:19,920
Speaker 3: the local media. He seems to getting a little thin

2431
01:59:20,000 --> 01:59:22,240
Speaker 3: skin right now. Well maybe he's always been that way.

2432
01:59:22,280 --> 01:59:25,680
Speaker 3: But what are you predicting for the Colorado Buffalo's move

2433
01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:27,040
Speaker 3: now to the Big twelve?

2434
01:59:27,320 --> 01:59:29,480
Speaker 5: A little bit of an easier schedule in the Big

2435
01:59:29,520 --> 01:59:31,760
Speaker 5: Twelve than it was in the final year as it

2436
01:59:31,800 --> 01:59:35,000
Speaker 5: turned out for the Pac twelve. However, I will say this,

2437
01:59:35,160 --> 01:59:38,520
Speaker 5: I don't have a tremendous amount of faith in a

2438
01:59:38,600 --> 01:59:41,360
Speaker 5: team that what did they muster three wins last season?

2439
01:59:41,440 --> 01:59:43,880
Speaker 3: They were four and eight, three and zero to start,

2440
01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:46,960
Speaker 3: one in eight to finish last place in the Pac twelve.

2441
01:59:47,440 --> 01:59:50,760
Speaker 5: I think think of it from this standpoint. Not only

2442
01:59:51,160 --> 01:59:53,720
Speaker 5: is this new for all the coaches scouting new opponents,

2443
01:59:53,760 --> 01:59:56,800
Speaker 5: but it's new for all these players. And it didn't

2444
01:59:56,800 --> 01:59:58,480
Speaker 5: go so well when they were all new to a

2445
01:59:58,520 --> 02:00:02,800
Speaker 5: conference and to a a team last year. So how

2446
02:00:02,840 --> 02:00:06,840
Speaker 5: are we expecting much better results this year? I mean,

2447
02:00:06,840 --> 02:00:10,280
Speaker 5: this looks like a five or six win team, maybe

2448
02:00:10,800 --> 02:00:15,520
Speaker 5: at best a average type of team by the end

2449
02:00:15,560 --> 02:00:16,120
Speaker 5: of the season.

2450
02:00:16,160 --> 02:00:17,800
Speaker 2: I don't see it any other way than that.

2451
02:00:17,960 --> 02:00:20,680
Speaker 3: Well, they better find out some answers on that offensive line.

2452
02:00:20,760 --> 02:00:23,640
Speaker 3: Fifty three sacks of Chador Sanders in twelve games.

2453
02:00:23,840 --> 02:00:25,120
Speaker 4: That's not good. All right?

2454
02:00:25,160 --> 02:00:27,160
Speaker 3: Coming up, how is it gonna shake out in the

2455
02:00:27,360 --> 02:00:31,240
Speaker 3: AFC East. We're gonna break it all down. This is

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Sunday. We are on the record today. We

2457
02:00:36,200 --> 02:00:39,560
Speaker 3: are on the record too many shows just you know,

2458
02:00:39,680 --> 02:00:41,600
Speaker 3: go back and say, well I saw this coming.

2459
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Speaker 4: No, no, no.

2460
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Speaker 3: We are on the record today as we are laying

2461
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Speaker 3: down our predictions for the AFC. Next week it'll be

2462
02:00:48,640 --> 02:00:52,840
Speaker 3: the NFC, and then the week after that, the NFL

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2471
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Speaker 3: will remind you as we get ready to break down

2472
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Speaker 3: the AFC East, We'll go back and tell you each

2473
02:01:20,360 --> 02:01:22,440
Speaker 3: of our picks to win all four divisions of the

2474
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Speaker 3: AFC are three wildcard teams and then one final thing

2475
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Speaker 3: Rich that I will ask of all of us at

2476
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Speaker 3: the end, which two teams will match up in the

2477
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Speaker 3: AFC championship game. So that'll be the final question as

2478
02:01:34,880 --> 02:01:38,720
Speaker 3: we wrap up the AFC again. For bow and for Chris,

2479
02:01:39,240 --> 02:01:41,960
Speaker 3: they're anxious about next week because they're NFC guys. As

2480
02:01:42,000 --> 02:01:46,000
Speaker 3: you know, by the way, Rich Ornbergers maintained a crazy

2481
02:01:46,040 --> 02:01:50,520
Speaker 3: schedule that's only getting crazier starting next week as you

2482
02:01:51,280 --> 02:01:55,880
Speaker 3: embark on your season. As once again the analysts for

2483
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Speaker 3: SANDYGA State football.

2484
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Speaker 4: They will open up at home next week, is that correct?

2485
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Speaker 5: They do against Texas A and M commerce And there's

2486
02:02:06,800 --> 02:02:09,480
Speaker 5: a lot of unknowns. It's like a lot of teams

2487
02:02:09,520 --> 02:02:13,120
Speaker 5: across college football. We're gonna see what the Aztecs have

2488
02:02:13,240 --> 02:02:18,919
Speaker 5: to offer offensively and defensively. New head coach, new coaching staff.

2489
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Speaker 5: I think there's only one holdover from last year's coaching staff,

2490
02:02:24,160 --> 02:02:27,200
Speaker 5: and so it's a new offense. It's a lot more

2491
02:02:27,280 --> 02:02:31,480
Speaker 5: quarterback dependent. It's a new defense. Instead of running with

2492
02:02:31,600 --> 02:02:34,880
Speaker 5: three defensive linemen, a three, three five, it's gonna be

2493
02:02:34,920 --> 02:02:38,400
Speaker 5: a nickel defense four to two. So yeah, there's a

2494
02:02:38,400 --> 02:02:41,080
Speaker 5: lot of changes for the San Diego State team.

2495
02:02:41,120 --> 02:02:43,320
Speaker 2: But you know, I think that's really.

2496
02:02:43,200 --> 02:02:47,560
Speaker 5: A microcosm of what's happening across college football because regardless

2497
02:02:47,560 --> 02:02:52,920
Speaker 5: of we're talking about a wholesale change at coach or quarterback,

2498
02:02:53,000 --> 02:02:56,120
Speaker 5: because you know, like like all things in college football,

2499
02:02:56,160 --> 02:03:00,920
Speaker 5: it's it doesn't last forever, right quarterbacks they graduate, they

2500
02:03:01,040 --> 02:03:04,680
Speaker 5: move on to the NFL. Well, now it's the wild

2501
02:03:04,680 --> 02:03:08,320
Speaker 5: West because with the transfer portal wide open, with name,

2502
02:03:08,320 --> 02:03:11,760
Speaker 5: image and likeness money being spent everywhere across the country,

2503
02:03:12,000 --> 02:03:16,360
Speaker 5: players are chasing dollars, players are looking for playing time opportunities,

2504
02:03:16,880 --> 02:03:20,400
Speaker 5: and with the conference realignment, I mean some of these

2505
02:03:20,440 --> 02:03:23,480
Speaker 5: players are going to start their career in one conference

2506
02:03:23,520 --> 02:03:25,880
Speaker 5: and finish their career in another conference, even if they

2507
02:03:25,920 --> 02:03:30,160
Speaker 5: don't change teams. So it's it is, as I said,

2508
02:03:30,200 --> 02:03:32,960
Speaker 5: I think accurately, so the wild West right now in

2509
02:03:33,000 --> 02:03:33,720
Speaker 5: college football.

2510
02:03:33,840 --> 02:03:36,960
Speaker 3: Ye know, it's interesting when USC and UCLA announced they

2511
02:03:36,960 --> 02:03:40,760
Speaker 3: were leaving the Pac twelve. I remember we were doing

2512
02:03:40,760 --> 02:03:43,520
Speaker 3: a tour of the new stadium, Snapdragon as it was,

2513
02:03:43,880 --> 02:03:46,360
Speaker 3: and I was talking with JD. Wicker, the athletic director

2514
02:03:46,880 --> 02:03:49,000
Speaker 3: and I said, wow, looks like you got a wide

2515
02:03:49,040 --> 02:03:52,120
Speaker 3: opening to go into the PAC twelve. And he looked

2516
02:03:52,120 --> 02:03:54,680
Speaker 3: at me and goes, I don't know if there's.

2517
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Speaker 4: Going to be a PAC twelve. Yeah, And at that

2518
02:03:58,680 --> 02:04:01,200
Speaker 4: point I was like, you know, what are you talking about.

2519
02:04:01,240 --> 02:04:03,560
Speaker 3: I mean, you know what, you know, maybe maybe they

2520
02:04:03,600 --> 02:04:05,840
Speaker 3: bring in San Diego State an SMU because of the

2521
02:04:05,920 --> 02:04:08,640
Speaker 3: Dallas market or something like that, or you know, Vegas,

2522
02:04:08,680 --> 02:04:10,560
Speaker 3: you know, And he looked at me and said, I

2523
02:04:10,600 --> 02:04:12,400
Speaker 3: don't even know if there's going to be a PAC twelve.

2524
02:04:12,520 --> 02:04:15,120
Speaker 3: And the irony, of course, is the two remaining teams

2525
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Speaker 3: in the PAC twelve. Now, the PAC two are both

2526
02:04:18,240 --> 02:04:21,000
Speaker 3: on San Diego State schedule because Washington State and Oregon

2527
02:04:21,040 --> 02:04:25,280
Speaker 3: State are essentially having to adopt a Mountain West schedule

2528
02:04:25,440 --> 02:04:26,120
Speaker 3: in lack.

2529
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Speaker 4: Of a PAC twelve schedule.

2530
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Speaker 3: So it's you know, it's one of those years where

2531
02:04:30,880 --> 02:04:33,880
Speaker 3: it's just, yeah, everything's upside down for at least now,

2532
02:04:34,360 --> 02:04:35,960
Speaker 3: and we'll see how it all plays out.

2533
02:04:36,000 --> 02:04:38,480
Speaker 4: All right, guys, we're ready to go. Let's get to

2534
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Speaker 4: the AFC East.

2535
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Speaker 3: This was an interesting division a year ago because the

2536
02:04:43,280 --> 02:04:46,640
Speaker 3: Bills were just floundering for most of the season. They

2537
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Speaker 3: were sitting at six and six, and then rattled off

2538
02:04:49,920 --> 02:04:54,200
Speaker 3: five straight wins, including a road win against the Dolphins,

2539
02:04:54,640 --> 02:04:57,440
Speaker 3: to win the tie break and win the AFC East.

2540
02:04:57,520 --> 02:05:00,960
Speaker 3: They went eleven and six. The Dolphins, only in control

2541
02:05:01,040 --> 02:05:05,000
Speaker 3: of that division, collapsed, finished eleven and six, didn't make

2542
02:05:05,040 --> 02:05:10,120
Speaker 3: it as a wild card, the Jets without Aaron Rodgers

2543
02:05:10,160 --> 02:05:13,800
Speaker 3: seven to ten, and of course it completely bottomed out

2544
02:05:13,800 --> 02:05:17,800
Speaker 3: in Belichick's final year with the Patriots, a pitiful four

2545
02:05:18,080 --> 02:05:23,240
Speaker 3: and thirteen. All Right, we start alphabetically with the Buffalo Bills,

2546
02:05:24,120 --> 02:05:26,480
Speaker 3: and we've been hearing this for the last couple of

2547
02:05:26,560 --> 02:05:29,840
Speaker 3: years that the Bill's window is closing.

2548
02:05:31,600 --> 02:05:32,360
Speaker 4: Not so fast.

2549
02:05:32,920 --> 02:05:36,440
Speaker 3: Ah, you still have a young quarterback very much in

2550
02:05:36,480 --> 02:05:39,080
Speaker 3: its prime and Josh Allen and the fact that this

2551
02:05:39,240 --> 02:05:43,960
Speaker 3: team won down the stretch, got the wins they needed

2552
02:05:44,080 --> 02:05:47,200
Speaker 3: down the stretch tells me Sean McDermott is still very

2553
02:05:47,280 --> 02:05:50,480
Speaker 3: much in control of this team. They had to make

2554
02:05:50,480 --> 02:05:56,600
Speaker 3: some adjustments, obviously when you're changing offensive coordinators, and they

2555
02:05:56,680 --> 02:06:01,600
Speaker 3: finally figured it out. I think the Bills are securely

2556
02:06:01,800 --> 02:06:04,760
Speaker 3: in as the AFC East champions.

2557
02:06:04,800 --> 02:06:06,520
Speaker 4: They won eleven games a year ago.

2558
02:06:07,040 --> 02:06:10,000
Speaker 3: I don't think they're gonna have the mid season hiccup

2559
02:06:10,000 --> 02:06:12,400
Speaker 3: that they had a year ago. I'll have the Bills

2560
02:06:12,440 --> 02:06:16,280
Speaker 3: with twelve wins this year and once again crowned as

2561
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Speaker 3: AFC East champions.

2562
02:06:18,440 --> 02:06:20,920
Speaker 5: Rich all Right, I have the Bills at ten wins.

2563
02:06:22,000 --> 02:06:24,400
Speaker 5: I think that this is going to be a slightly

2564
02:06:24,600 --> 02:06:27,000
Speaker 5: lesser than year than we've seen from the Bills. I'm

2565
02:06:27,040 --> 02:06:31,080
Speaker 5: not completely convinced about this roster. I think they lost

2566
02:06:31,080 --> 02:06:35,200
Speaker 5: Stefan Diggs and they've replaced him with who Dalton Kincaid.

2567
02:06:35,720 --> 02:06:38,040
Speaker 5: I mean, who is going to emerge as the top

2568
02:06:38,480 --> 02:06:42,600
Speaker 5: pass catcher for this offense. I mean, unless Kinkaid is

2569
02:06:42,640 --> 02:06:45,720
Speaker 5: the second coming of Gronk and the AFC East, then

2570
02:06:45,840 --> 02:06:46,920
Speaker 5: there's gonna be an.

2571
02:06:46,760 --> 02:06:49,200
Speaker 2: Issue here for the Bills, and they're gonna have to

2572
02:06:49,200 --> 02:06:51,520
Speaker 2: figure out how it's gonna happen.

2573
02:06:51,640 --> 02:06:54,600
Speaker 5: Is it gonna be by committee? Is one of these

2574
02:06:54,720 --> 02:06:59,040
Speaker 5: other pass catchers going to emerge as the security to

2575
02:06:59,040 --> 02:07:03,400
Speaker 5: play blanket for the Buffalo Bills? And Josh Allen I

2576
02:07:03,640 --> 02:07:07,120
Speaker 5: don't know. Defensively, Sean McDermott, I believe in him. I

2577
02:07:07,160 --> 02:07:12,440
Speaker 5: am a believer of the tough nosed, sound type of

2578
02:07:12,480 --> 02:07:16,760
Speaker 5: defense that they've played, especially in a cold weather venue

2579
02:07:16,880 --> 02:07:20,200
Speaker 5: like Buffalo for nine games this season. Yeah, I have

2580
02:07:20,240 --> 02:07:23,360
Speaker 5: them at ten wins, but it's mainly because I forecast

2581
02:07:23,800 --> 02:07:26,480
Speaker 5: some early struggles with the offense and they emerge as

2582
02:07:26,520 --> 02:07:28,200
Speaker 5: a wildcard in the AFC.

2583
02:07:28,280 --> 02:07:30,800
Speaker 3: All right, so you have the Bills as a wildcard.

2584
02:07:32,080 --> 02:07:34,880
Speaker 3: That's it, all right, So the Bills as a wild card.

2585
02:07:35,280 --> 02:07:38,080
Speaker 3: I have him as division champions with twelve wins. Bow,

2586
02:07:38,240 --> 02:07:39,760
Speaker 3: where do you go with the Buffalo Bills?

2587
02:07:40,520 --> 02:07:43,000
Speaker 10: On our nine are non binding sheet in here for

2588
02:07:43,040 --> 02:07:44,920
Speaker 10: our NFL predictions. I actually have the Bills winning the

2589
02:07:44,920 --> 02:07:48,120
Speaker 10: Super Bowl. Wow, I think they're gonna go. I think

2590
02:07:48,160 --> 02:07:50,360
Speaker 10: they're gonna go twelve and five this year. I still

2591
02:07:50,360 --> 02:07:52,760
Speaker 10: believe in Josh Allen. I guess the recurring theme for

2592
02:07:52,800 --> 02:07:54,200
Speaker 10: me is that if you have a quarterback, you have

2593
02:07:54,240 --> 02:07:56,880
Speaker 10: a chance. And I think Josh Allen is very clearly

2594
02:07:56,920 --> 02:07:59,600
Speaker 10: the second best quarterback in all of football. So I

2595
02:07:59,600 --> 02:08:01,560
Speaker 10: don't see why people are just down on the Bills

2596
02:08:01,560 --> 02:08:03,280
Speaker 10: because they traded a guy who didn't want to be

2597
02:08:03,320 --> 02:08:06,080
Speaker 10: there anymore in Steffan Diggs and they haven't gotten through.

2598
02:08:06,080 --> 02:08:08,600
Speaker 10: But also they've lost to the Chiefs, like a lot

2599
02:08:08,600 --> 02:08:10,800
Speaker 10: of great teams have lost to the Chiefs. There's nothing

2600
02:08:10,840 --> 02:08:13,280
Speaker 10: wrong with losing to the Chiefs. Everybody does that. So

2601
02:08:13,480 --> 02:08:15,040
Speaker 10: I think this is the year that Bills finally get

2602
02:08:15,080 --> 02:08:15,640
Speaker 10: over the hump.

2603
02:08:15,720 --> 02:08:17,600
Speaker 3: All right, So you have them twelve and five win

2604
02:08:17,640 --> 02:08:20,520
Speaker 3: in the division. I have them twelve and five winning visions.

2605
02:08:20,880 --> 02:08:23,720
Speaker 3: Rich Tad's ad met ten wins getting in as a

2606
02:08:23,800 --> 02:08:27,800
Speaker 3: wild card. Chris Wordy a stand on the Buffalo Bills.

2607
02:08:29,880 --> 02:08:32,920
Speaker 13: This one's a tricky one for me. I think they

2608
02:08:32,960 --> 02:08:35,440
Speaker 13: do win the division. I'll go ahead and I'll notch

2609
02:08:35,480 --> 02:08:39,920
Speaker 13: them down for this is tough because I feel like

2610
02:08:39,960 --> 02:08:42,280
Speaker 13: I'm down a lot of these AFC records. I'll notch

2611
02:08:42,320 --> 02:08:46,560
Speaker 13: them down for eleven wins. I think that's enough to

2612
02:08:46,600 --> 02:08:50,760
Speaker 13: win the AFC East here. There's no reason for me

2613
02:08:50,840 --> 02:08:53,320
Speaker 13: to doubt this right now. I think reports of Josh

2614
02:08:53,360 --> 02:08:58,960
Speaker 13: Allen's demise are a little, a little premature. I do

2615
02:08:59,000 --> 02:09:01,480
Speaker 13: have a lot of faith in Kee Coleman as the

2616
02:09:01,560 --> 02:09:03,520
Speaker 13: rookie wide receiver to just kind of be a shot

2617
02:09:03,520 --> 02:09:04,240
Speaker 13: in the arm here.

2618
02:09:04,880 --> 02:09:05,840
Speaker 4: We'll see how that goes.

2619
02:09:05,920 --> 02:09:08,720
Speaker 13: But I was just looking down down the record, I mean,

2620
02:09:08,960 --> 02:09:11,200
Speaker 13: excuse me, down the schedule, and I think one of

2621
02:09:11,240 --> 02:09:12,760
Speaker 13: the things in their favor is they do have three

2622
02:09:12,800 --> 02:09:14,040
Speaker 13: division games.

2623
02:09:13,760 --> 02:09:14,640
Speaker 4: To end the year.

2624
02:09:15,080 --> 02:09:20,400
Speaker 13: Two of them will be in in Buffalo, New England,

2625
02:09:20,600 --> 02:09:25,120
Speaker 13: and the Jets it's there. They're a tough out man.

2626
02:09:25,560 --> 02:09:27,880
Speaker 13: I like their defense. I like Josh Allen. I think

2627
02:09:27,920 --> 02:09:30,960
Speaker 13: they had a good rookie class. I'm I'm putting myself debt.

2628
02:09:31,000 --> 02:09:33,880
Speaker 13: What what I just say? Eleven wins? Yeah, eleven and six.

2629
02:09:33,960 --> 02:09:34,960
Speaker 13: I'll put myself down for that.

2630
02:09:35,000 --> 02:09:36,760
Speaker 10: But you know what really helps the Bills this here

2631
02:09:36,800 --> 02:09:38,840
Speaker 10: is I think the vibes are so high with the team.

2632
02:09:38,840 --> 02:09:39,960
Speaker 10: I don't know if you guys see any of their

2633
02:09:39,960 --> 02:09:42,080
Speaker 10: social media, but it just looks like that's a team

2634
02:09:42,120 --> 02:09:44,240
Speaker 10: that's having a lot of fun being together. And Keon Coleman,

2635
02:09:44,280 --> 02:09:45,879
Speaker 10: I think is gonna have a big year as a rookie.

2636
02:09:45,960 --> 02:09:48,160
Speaker 4: Actually, what I'm gonna bump myself up to twelve with.

2637
02:09:48,160 --> 02:09:50,800
Speaker 3: Oh he's going up to twelve all right? So well,

2638
02:09:51,400 --> 02:09:54,800
Speaker 3: vibes vibe reminder from bo. So we have three of

2639
02:09:54,880 --> 02:09:57,840
Speaker 3: us with twelve wins and a division title, rich a

2640
02:09:57,920 --> 02:10:01,120
Speaker 3: notch down ten wins and a wild card. By the way,

2641
02:10:01,120 --> 02:10:06,120
Speaker 3: it was interesting though about Stefan Diggs's departure from the

2642
02:10:06,120 --> 02:10:09,280
Speaker 3: Bills and some of the reaction or maybe lack of

2643
02:10:09,320 --> 02:10:12,960
Speaker 3: it from Josh Allen. Oh, he seems like, yeah, yeah,

2644
02:10:13,120 --> 02:10:15,080
Speaker 3: you know, obviously he was a really good player.

2645
02:10:15,520 --> 02:10:19,120
Speaker 5: I mean, well, they asked him specifically, Hey, so are

2646
02:10:19,120 --> 02:10:21,080
Speaker 5: you going to miss him this year? Yeah, and he

2647
02:10:21,160 --> 02:10:23,680
Speaker 5: was like, look, he's a heck of a player, I mean,

2648
02:10:23,840 --> 02:10:25,200
Speaker 5: but miss him.

2649
02:10:26,280 --> 02:10:28,640
Speaker 4: He really really seemed to downplay.

2650
02:10:28,800 --> 02:10:29,000
Speaker 2: Look.

2651
02:10:29,120 --> 02:10:32,000
Speaker 3: I mean, there's no question his a rival in Buffalo

2652
02:10:32,960 --> 02:10:35,880
Speaker 3: helped change the whole dynamic of the passing game and

2653
02:10:36,960 --> 02:10:40,240
Speaker 3: really the confidence of Josh Allen as a passing quarterback.

2654
02:10:40,280 --> 02:10:41,840
Speaker 4: But we'll see how that plays out.

2655
02:10:41,880 --> 02:10:44,040
Speaker 13: I feel like there was always tension there in Buffalo,

2656
02:10:44,120 --> 02:10:45,800
Speaker 13: but with Digs.

2657
02:10:45,320 --> 02:10:46,600
Speaker 4: Well apparently there was.

2658
02:10:46,720 --> 02:10:48,920
Speaker 3: I mean that's what I'm reading into the comments there

2659
02:10:48,960 --> 02:10:51,480
Speaker 3: by Josh Allen. All Right, coming up on the other side,

2660
02:10:51,560 --> 02:10:54,760
Speaker 3: the last three teams in the AFC East, we'll have

2661
02:10:54,920 --> 02:10:59,200
Speaker 3: the Dolphins, the Patriots, and then finally it's going to

2662
02:10:59,240 --> 02:11:01,520
Speaker 3: be Aaron Rodgers and the New York JA. Very quickly

2663
02:11:01,520 --> 02:11:03,920
Speaker 3: on the Patriots, Yeah, well, we'll be very quick on

2664
02:11:03,920 --> 02:11:04,400
Speaker 3: the Patriots.

2665
02:11:04,400 --> 02:11:06,360
Speaker 4: Well, well, yeah, very quick.

2666
02:11:07,040 --> 02:11:10,720
Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvey, Rich Roberger, Fox

2667
02:11:10,760 --> 02:11:14,720
Speaker 3: Sports Sunday Live from the tai Iraq dot Com Studios.

2668
02:11:16,040 --> 02:11:18,400
Speaker 4: I think we all love what we're doing today as we.

2669
02:11:18,480 --> 02:11:21,240
Speaker 3: Break it all down for the upcoming twenty twenty four

2670
02:11:21,920 --> 02:11:22,879
Speaker 3: NFL season.

2671
02:11:22,920 --> 02:11:26,680
Speaker 4: Our focus today has been the AFC. Got three teams.

2672
02:11:26,480 --> 02:11:29,720
Speaker 3: Left, guys in the AFC East, and we're going to

2673
02:11:29,760 --> 02:11:31,200
Speaker 3: start with the Miami Dolphins.

2674
02:11:31,560 --> 02:11:32,160
Speaker 2: I like it.

2675
02:11:32,280 --> 02:11:34,720
Speaker 3: So the Dolphins last year appeared to be in the

2676
02:11:34,800 --> 02:11:37,160
Speaker 3: driver's seat. They were sitting at eleven and four, two

2677
02:11:37,200 --> 02:11:41,680
Speaker 3: games to go, seemingly in control of the AFC East.

2678
02:11:42,600 --> 02:11:46,520
Speaker 3: They went to Baltimore and got annihilated, remember that blowout

2679
02:11:46,760 --> 02:11:49,960
Speaker 3: fifty six, gave up fifty six points, and then they

2680
02:11:50,000 --> 02:11:52,640
Speaker 3: crapped in their pants at home against the Bills to

2681
02:11:52,680 --> 02:11:56,240
Speaker 3: lose the division title. And then they were non competitive

2682
02:11:56,280 --> 02:11:59,800
Speaker 3: in that deep freeze playoff game in Kansas City. So

2683
02:12:00,440 --> 02:12:06,840
Speaker 3: three ugly losses to close out their season. Mike McDaniel,

2684
02:12:08,000 --> 02:12:10,320
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, obviously, when things are going good,

2685
02:12:10,400 --> 02:12:14,240
Speaker 3: everyone was praising Mike McDaniel. I look at the Dolphins

2686
02:12:14,320 --> 02:12:17,520
Speaker 3: this way, when you still look at the talent they

2687
02:12:17,520 --> 02:12:18,760
Speaker 3: have on this team.

2688
02:12:18,840 --> 02:12:20,520
Speaker 4: Since starting with Tyreek Hill.

2689
02:12:20,600 --> 02:12:23,640
Speaker 3: Obviously, I mean, is most are going to score twenty

2690
02:12:23,640 --> 02:12:24,360
Speaker 3: one touchdowns?

2691
02:12:24,400 --> 02:12:27,400
Speaker 4: Again? I don't know, but I mean when.

2692
02:12:27,240 --> 02:12:30,360
Speaker 3: I look at them, they to me, are still a

2693
02:12:30,400 --> 02:12:34,000
Speaker 3: playoff team, so they won't win the division. I had

2694
02:12:34,000 --> 02:12:37,080
Speaker 3: the Bills at twelve wins winning the division. I've been

2695
02:12:37,080 --> 02:12:38,920
Speaker 3: going back and forth, but I'm gonna check in the

2696
02:12:38,960 --> 02:12:44,200
Speaker 3: Dolphins at eleven and six and firmly in as a

2697
02:12:44,800 --> 02:12:46,360
Speaker 3: wild card team.

2698
02:12:46,640 --> 02:12:51,760
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, what's interesting about our picks here is I'm

2699
02:12:51,880 --> 02:12:55,280
Speaker 5: also out eleven wins, but that's enough to win the

2700
02:12:55,320 --> 02:12:59,200
Speaker 5: AFC excuse me, the AFC East. Yeah, so they'll be

2701
02:12:59,320 --> 02:13:02,680
Speaker 5: my division winner with eleven wins, which kind of gives

2702
02:13:02,680 --> 02:13:04,600
Speaker 5: you a little bit of a clue to how I

2703
02:13:04,640 --> 02:13:07,240
Speaker 5: feel about the Patriots and the Jets. Maybe a little

2704
02:13:07,240 --> 02:13:10,240
Speaker 5: bit of a clue, but yeah, much to what you described.

2705
02:13:10,360 --> 02:13:14,080
Speaker 5: I think there is some disappointment ahead for the Dolphins,

2706
02:13:14,080 --> 02:13:16,520
Speaker 5: but I feel similarly about the Bills, and that's the

2707
02:13:16,560 --> 02:13:18,920
Speaker 5: reason why I put them down for ten wins. I

2708
02:13:18,960 --> 02:13:21,280
Speaker 5: think this is gonna be one of the most competitive

2709
02:13:21,360 --> 02:13:24,960
Speaker 5: divisions in all of football.

2710
02:13:25,040 --> 02:13:26,280
Speaker 2: Certainly in the AFC.

2711
02:13:26,800 --> 02:13:30,720
Speaker 5: I think that they will somewhat cannibalize each other because

2712
02:13:30,800 --> 02:13:34,920
Speaker 5: even though the Patriots I think will come in last place,

2713
02:13:35,040 --> 02:13:38,560
Speaker 5: I think they'll be competitive at times, especially depending on

2714
02:13:38,680 --> 02:13:42,400
Speaker 5: how Drake may looks and they can rough people up.

2715
02:13:42,440 --> 02:13:45,920
Speaker 5: Because Gerrod Male, former teammate of mine when I played

2716
02:13:45,920 --> 02:13:48,000
Speaker 5: for the New England Patriots, now the head coach of

2717
02:13:48,040 --> 02:13:53,400
Speaker 5: the group. He's gonna take on that team's gonna take

2718
02:13:53,440 --> 02:13:56,680
Speaker 5: on his personality, which is a team that loves to

2719
02:13:56,720 --> 02:13:58,440
Speaker 5: play football and wants to.

2720
02:13:58,480 --> 02:13:59,360
Speaker 2: Hit you in the mouth.

2721
02:14:00,080 --> 02:14:03,200
Speaker 5: I think Dan Campbell like that's that's a good comp

2722
02:14:03,240 --> 02:14:07,000
Speaker 5: Ford Mayo like he's he's going to be looking to

2723
02:14:07,400 --> 02:14:07,800
Speaker 5: hold on.

2724
02:14:07,840 --> 02:14:09,800
Speaker 4: You're you're going on the Patriots right now, we're talking

2725
02:14:09,800 --> 02:14:12,680
Speaker 4: about it. I will get to the Patriots.

2726
02:14:12,880 --> 02:14:15,000
Speaker 3: I will get to stay and stay stay with the

2727
02:14:15,160 --> 02:14:17,080
Speaker 3: focus on these Miami Dolphins.

2728
02:14:17,160 --> 02:14:20,040
Speaker 5: I understand, but I'm just saying, so, I think the

2729
02:14:20,080 --> 02:14:22,839
Speaker 5: Patriots are going to rough up a lot of this division.

2730
02:14:23,040 --> 02:14:24,520
Speaker 3: I think they're going to be we haven't gotten to

2731
02:14:24,560 --> 02:14:26,640
Speaker 3: the Patriots down.

2732
02:14:27,720 --> 02:14:30,600
Speaker 5: You slow down, Let me let me finish my Dolphins.

2733
02:14:31,120 --> 02:14:33,960
Speaker 5: Uh chat here with by talking to you all about

2734
02:14:34,000 --> 02:14:34,560
Speaker 5: Drod Mayo.

2735
02:14:34,960 --> 02:14:35,320
Speaker 2: Uh No.

2736
02:14:35,680 --> 02:14:38,120
Speaker 5: So I think the Patriots are going to rough up

2737
02:14:38,600 --> 02:14:40,640
Speaker 5: this division in a lot of these games. And I

2738
02:14:40,680 --> 02:14:45,200
Speaker 5: think I think the Dolphins, specifically, the brand of football

2739
02:14:45,440 --> 02:14:48,480
Speaker 5: that New England plays is going to They're going.

2740
02:14:48,320 --> 02:14:49,440
Speaker 2: To struggle against it.

2741
02:14:49,600 --> 02:14:52,440
Speaker 5: So I could see even a suite there look arriving

2742
02:14:52,480 --> 02:14:55,520
Speaker 5: back at the doorstep in Miami. I think Mike McDaniel

2743
02:14:55,560 --> 02:14:57,240
Speaker 5: has done a lot of good for that team. I

2744
02:14:57,240 --> 02:14:59,120
Speaker 5: think to a tongue of I low, getting a big

2745
02:14:59,160 --> 02:15:03,640
Speaker 5: contract may le to some exceptional confidence there that we

2746
02:15:03,800 --> 02:15:06,640
Speaker 5: haven't seen from Tua. I think at times she sort

2747
02:15:06,680 --> 02:15:09,920
Speaker 5: of still played a little timid. I think he'll be

2748
02:15:10,120 --> 02:15:13,000
Speaker 5: unleashed this year. So I have the Dolphins winning this division.

2749
02:15:13,320 --> 02:15:16,200
Speaker 5: I have them as an eleven win eleven win team,

2750
02:15:16,720 --> 02:15:18,640
Speaker 5: and like I said, it's going to be a hyper

2751
02:15:18,760 --> 02:15:22,800
Speaker 5: competitive division for the AFC.

2752
02:15:22,320 --> 02:15:24,360
Speaker 3: All right, So we both have him at eleven wins.

2753
02:15:24,360 --> 02:15:27,640
Speaker 3: You have him as division champions. I have him as

2754
02:15:27,680 --> 02:15:30,480
Speaker 3: a wild card. Boa where are you with the Dolphins.

2755
02:15:31,440 --> 02:15:33,920
Speaker 10: I actually think the Dolphins are going to be good.

2756
02:15:33,080 --> 02:15:36,320
Speaker 10: I think they're an eleven win team this year. I

2757
02:15:36,320 --> 02:15:40,400
Speaker 10: think Tua with Mike McDaniel. I think the the softer

2758
02:15:40,480 --> 02:15:42,440
Speaker 10: coaching style of Mike McDaniel and playing the two his

2759
02:15:42,480 --> 02:15:44,960
Speaker 10: strength as does actual wonders for him as a player.

2760
02:15:45,440 --> 02:15:47,720
Speaker 10: And they also still have the best or second best

2761
02:15:47,720 --> 02:15:49,600
Speaker 10: wide receiver in football, depending on how you feel about

2762
02:15:49,600 --> 02:15:52,880
Speaker 10: Tyrick Hill. So I think they're gonna be an eleven

2763
02:15:52,880 --> 02:15:53,280
Speaker 10: win team.

2764
02:15:53,360 --> 02:15:55,120
Speaker 3: Sounds right for the all right, so we have three

2765
02:15:55,200 --> 02:15:58,840
Speaker 3: eleven win teams, so you have them in as a wildcard.

2766
02:15:59,280 --> 02:16:01,320
Speaker 10: Yeah, they'll be in the They're a wild card.

2767
02:16:01,200 --> 02:16:06,080
Speaker 4: Wild card, all right? How about it, Chris. I can't

2768
02:16:06,120 --> 02:16:09,080
Speaker 4: respect this team. I just can't. This is a soft team.

2769
02:16:09,800 --> 02:16:12,560
Speaker 13: And like Mike McDaniel, this whole like obsession with the

2770
02:16:12,640 --> 02:16:16,320
Speaker 13: number twenty four or whatever it was, like, that's just

2771
02:16:16,440 --> 02:16:20,200
Speaker 13: it's goofy. It's goofy as hell. Like every year, I

2772
02:16:20,200 --> 02:16:22,360
Speaker 13: feel like we talk ourselves into the Dolphins, and every

2773
02:16:22,440 --> 02:16:24,840
Speaker 13: year we're just profoundly let down. I just refuse to

2774
02:16:24,840 --> 02:16:27,600
Speaker 13: play the game anymore. I can't really do eight and

2775
02:16:27,640 --> 02:16:30,200
Speaker 13: eight anymore. I'll put them down for eight and nine. Like,

2776
02:16:30,320 --> 02:16:33,600
Speaker 13: I'm not interested in seeing them the playoffs either. I'm

2777
02:16:33,600 --> 02:16:36,520
Speaker 13: not interested in watching this team, like I'm interested in

2778
02:16:36,520 --> 02:16:38,879
Speaker 13: some of their players for fantasy football, I guess. But

2779
02:16:39,240 --> 02:16:42,200
Speaker 13: like they'll have a fun offense, I guess. But I

2780
02:16:42,240 --> 02:16:44,440
Speaker 13: think at some point you're just gonna get figured out,

2781
02:16:44,680 --> 02:16:47,600
Speaker 13: especially when your defense is not that good. I mean,

2782
02:16:47,640 --> 02:16:50,200
Speaker 13: maybe devon Ah Chain stays healthy for a while, that's

2783
02:16:50,240 --> 02:16:53,800
Speaker 13: but that's a real big if yeah, eight and nine,

2784
02:16:54,440 --> 02:16:56,360
Speaker 13: I'm not interested in this team. I'm actually more interested

2785
02:16:56,400 --> 02:16:57,520
Speaker 13: talk about the Patriots now.

2786
02:16:57,560 --> 02:16:59,600
Speaker 3: All right, Well we'll get to that, but you have

2787
02:16:59,680 --> 02:17:03,160
Speaker 3: them as eight to nine obviously not a playoff team. No,

2788
02:17:03,480 --> 02:17:05,800
Speaker 3: all right, As far as the Patriots concerned, I'm gonna

2789
02:17:05,840 --> 02:17:10,520
Speaker 3: keep it as brief as humanly possible. Three and fourteen,

2790
02:17:11,160 --> 02:17:14,640
Speaker 3: worst team in the NFL. It's not even close. So

2791
02:17:14,760 --> 02:17:19,039
Speaker 3: that is my breakdown on the Patriots. This is no

2792
02:17:19,120 --> 02:17:21,720
Speaker 3: knock on their new coach. It's just that the cupboard

2793
02:17:21,760 --> 02:17:24,280
Speaker 3: is bare. If they could only get four wins out

2794
02:17:24,320 --> 02:17:27,640
Speaker 3: of Belichick a year ago, good luck for a rookie coach.

2795
02:17:28,040 --> 02:17:32,360
Speaker 3: Three and fourteen Patriots, worst team in the NFL, all.

2796
02:17:32,320 --> 02:17:37,360
Speaker 5: Right, I have a lot more respect for the roster

2797
02:17:37,800 --> 02:17:41,640
Speaker 5: as it stands, especially defensively. This kind of reminds me

2798
02:17:41,680 --> 02:17:45,080
Speaker 5: of the conversation we were just having about the Browns,

2799
02:17:45,600 --> 02:17:49,200
Speaker 5: you know, look, or even the Steelers for that matter.

2800
02:17:49,640 --> 02:17:52,519
Speaker 5: I mean, you don't know what you're gonna get offensively

2801
02:17:52,560 --> 02:17:54,720
Speaker 5: from those teams, but you do know what you're gonna

2802
02:17:54,720 --> 02:17:58,879
Speaker 5: get defensively from those two teams, and it sound play.

2803
02:17:59,400 --> 02:18:02,040
Speaker 5: I don't think it was a huge drop off defensively

2804
02:18:02,160 --> 02:18:04,840
Speaker 5: for the New England Patriots, and I think they could

2805
02:18:04,879 --> 02:18:08,520
Speaker 5: see a little bit of a renaissance with a little

2806
02:18:08,560 --> 02:18:13,640
Speaker 5: bit more consistency in the offensive coaching staff. Remember what

2807
02:18:13,720 --> 02:18:16,400
Speaker 5: Bill Belichick did towards the end with Mac Jones. It

2808
02:18:16,480 --> 02:18:20,760
Speaker 5: was bizarre. He had different voices in the headphone. He

2809
02:18:20,840 --> 02:18:23,959
Speaker 5: was doing some strange stuff, and I really don't understand

2810
02:18:23,959 --> 02:18:26,560
Speaker 5: what the thought process was there. Maybe he was trying

2811
02:18:26,600 --> 02:18:29,680
Speaker 5: to instill the same competitiveness in the coaching staff that

2812
02:18:29,760 --> 02:18:32,120
Speaker 5: he did on the roster for all those years and

2813
02:18:32,160 --> 02:18:35,840
Speaker 5: had success doing it. But it gets complicated and confusing

2814
02:18:35,879 --> 02:18:39,600
Speaker 5: for a young quarterback to hear different opinions from different coaches.

2815
02:18:39,840 --> 02:18:44,000
Speaker 5: Also two coaches who had never been offensive coordinators before

2816
02:18:44,200 --> 02:18:48,920
Speaker 5: in their entire time in the NFL. So I digress

2817
02:18:49,000 --> 02:18:52,560
Speaker 5: on the Patriots of yesteryear to concentrate on what Gerrod

2818
02:18:52,600 --> 02:18:54,480
Speaker 5: Meyo is going to bring to the table this year.

2819
02:18:54,720 --> 02:18:58,040
Speaker 2: I have them down as an eight win team.

2820
02:18:58,400 --> 02:19:01,080
Speaker 5: I think they are going to be still a sub

2821
02:19:01,080 --> 02:19:04,279
Speaker 5: five hundred team. I think there's gonna be massive improvements

2822
02:19:04,520 --> 02:19:07,720
Speaker 5: and I think specifically the defense will carry them through

2823
02:19:07,760 --> 02:19:11,240
Speaker 5: a lot of this pretty tight divisional schedule. In terms

2824
02:19:11,240 --> 02:19:14,720
Speaker 5: of competition across this division, but also throughout the AFC schedule.

2825
02:19:14,840 --> 02:19:16,560
Speaker 3: I'll put it this way, if they get to eight wins,

2826
02:19:16,600 --> 02:19:18,880
Speaker 3: Mayo is definitely in the mix for NFL Coach of

2827
02:19:18,920 --> 02:19:19,240
Speaker 3: the Year.

2828
02:19:20,360 --> 02:19:24,760
Speaker 4: About that, I mean, you are, yeah, with eight wins,

2829
02:19:25,560 --> 02:19:25,959
Speaker 4: all right?

2830
02:19:26,240 --> 02:19:29,440
Speaker 3: So bo I haven't met three and fourteen worst team

2831
02:19:29,480 --> 02:19:32,160
Speaker 3: in the NFL. Rich says they will be tinkering close

2832
02:19:32,240 --> 02:19:33,840
Speaker 3: to the five hundred market eight and nine.

2833
02:19:34,360 --> 02:19:35,560
Speaker 4: Where are you with the Pats?

2834
02:19:35,680 --> 02:19:39,039
Speaker 10: The Patriots, to me, are a lot like the the

2835
02:19:39,080 --> 02:19:41,680
Speaker 10: Los Angeles Chargers in the sense that I think they

2836
02:19:41,720 --> 02:19:45,120
Speaker 10: have the right stuff in place, but there's just a

2837
02:19:45,800 --> 02:19:49,039
Speaker 10: serious lack of talent around them. I think Drake may

2838
02:19:49,160 --> 02:19:51,560
Speaker 10: is the quarterback of the future there. I don't know

2839
02:19:51,600 --> 02:19:53,720
Speaker 10: why everybody talked themselves out of him as we got

2840
02:19:53,720 --> 02:19:55,560
Speaker 10: closer to the draft. I think he was very clearly

2841
02:19:55,600 --> 02:19:58,039
Speaker 10: still one B to Kayleab Williams one A. I think

2842
02:19:58,080 --> 02:20:01,440
Speaker 10: Gibrod Mayo is the right choice at head coach, but

2843
02:20:01,560 --> 02:20:05,879
Speaker 10: there's just a distinct lack of talent everywhere else. So

2844
02:20:06,040 --> 02:20:08,039
Speaker 10: I think they're gonna be about six and eleven because

2845
02:20:08,200 --> 02:20:10,200
Speaker 10: I mean, honestly, they also haven't been the same team

2846
02:20:10,240 --> 02:20:14,000
Speaker 10: since they let one of their legendary players go in

2847
02:20:14,080 --> 02:20:17,920
Speaker 10: Rich Hornberger, so exactly, like, yeah, until they can right

2848
02:20:18,000 --> 02:20:20,400
Speaker 10: that wrong and maybe bring him back for an honorary

2849
02:20:20,440 --> 02:20:22,680
Speaker 10: day or something like that, it might be struggle city

2850
02:20:22,680 --> 02:20:24,920
Speaker 10: out there. But I think they're gonna win six games

2851
02:20:24,920 --> 02:20:25,240
Speaker 10: this year.

2852
02:20:25,400 --> 02:20:27,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I mean, think about it. After he left,

2853
02:20:27,800 --> 02:20:29,360
Speaker 3: they only won three more Super Bowls.

2854
02:20:30,400 --> 02:20:32,920
Speaker 5: I've been saying that for years, and I have tried

2855
02:20:32,959 --> 02:20:35,640
Speaker 5: not to be too critical, but my goodness, can you

2856
02:20:35,720 --> 02:20:38,640
Speaker 5: imagine how many more they would have won with me?

2857
02:20:38,959 --> 02:20:40,119
Speaker 2: I digress?

2858
02:20:40,720 --> 02:20:44,440
Speaker 4: All right, Chris, you've got the final word on the Paths. Yeah.

2859
02:20:44,520 --> 02:20:46,960
Speaker 13: I like a lot of what Riches bringing to the table.

2860
02:20:47,959 --> 02:20:51,200
Speaker 13: It's funny with the Patriots defense, and we've always known

2861
02:20:51,240 --> 02:20:52,920
Speaker 13: this to be the way with him. Kind of remember

2862
02:20:52,920 --> 02:20:54,879
Speaker 13: how I said the Jaguars is like it always throws

2863
02:20:54,879 --> 02:20:56,879
Speaker 13: me for a loop because I just don't know who

2864
02:20:56,879 --> 02:20:58,760
Speaker 13: the Jaguars are. I kind of have a similar problem

2865
02:20:58,760 --> 02:21:01,560
Speaker 13: with the Patriots, but I also know that's because they've

2866
02:21:01,600 --> 02:21:03,760
Speaker 13: always had a very clear idea of what they want

2867
02:21:03,760 --> 02:21:06,480
Speaker 13: to do on defense, to the point now where it's

2868
02:21:06,520 --> 02:21:08,520
Speaker 13: like I kind of recognize some of the names on

2869
02:21:08,560 --> 02:21:11,280
Speaker 13: defense because they've been there so long, or they've had

2870
02:21:11,360 --> 02:21:19,560
Speaker 13: stints and Patriots esque systems like Jeelani Tavai and Jabrill Peppers. Yeah,

2871
02:21:19,600 --> 02:21:22,280
Speaker 13: I keep forgetting that they drafted Drake May. I have

2872
02:21:22,320 --> 02:21:24,920
Speaker 13: to keep reminding myself, and I keep having reminding myself

2873
02:21:24,920 --> 02:21:28,080
Speaker 13: that Drake May probably has a good amount of pro

2874
02:21:28,200 --> 02:21:31,600
Speaker 13: style quarterback talent to him. But yeah, it's a little

2875
02:21:31,600 --> 02:21:35,240
Speaker 13: whiles away. There's definitely some guys who feel like they're

2876
02:21:35,320 --> 02:21:37,880
Speaker 13: kind of on the wrong side of their careers at

2877
02:21:37,879 --> 02:21:40,720
Speaker 13: this point. I have a very funny story one of

2878
02:21:40,720 --> 02:21:43,400
Speaker 13: these days involving fantasy football and Hunter Henry that I

2879
02:21:43,440 --> 02:21:46,680
Speaker 13: need to tell. Actually, it wasn't even fantasy football, was

2880
02:21:46,720 --> 02:21:48,280
Speaker 13: just a rankings list we did, so I'm not gonna

2881
02:21:48,360 --> 02:21:49,000
Speaker 13: I'm gonna recuse it.

2882
02:21:49,000 --> 02:21:50,560
Speaker 3: He's SNAr and dared a rich and I, by the way,

2883
02:21:50,560 --> 02:21:52,440
Speaker 3: from his Charger days. Well, we used to do on

2884
02:21:52,480 --> 02:21:53,280
Speaker 3: The Lion's podcast.

2885
02:21:53,280 --> 02:21:55,240
Speaker 13: We used to do these top ten lists every year

2886
02:21:55,320 --> 02:21:57,400
Speaker 13: where we'd rank the top ten at every division, and

2887
02:21:57,480 --> 02:21:59,840
Speaker 13: one year both me and one of my co hosts

2888
02:21:59,840 --> 02:22:02,960
Speaker 13: had Hunter Henry in the top ten, and after about

2889
02:22:03,120 --> 02:22:05,520
Speaker 13: ten minutes of talking about it, our third co host said,

2890
02:22:05,959 --> 02:22:07,760
Speaker 13: you know, he's out for the year with an ACL

2891
02:22:07,840 --> 02:22:11,640
Speaker 13: tear right and that was our worst ever. We never

2892
02:22:11,640 --> 02:22:14,200
Speaker 13: did the list after that. Yeah, Hunter Henry gives me

2893
02:22:14,240 --> 02:22:18,439
Speaker 13: PTSD every time I see him. I think they likewise,

2894
02:22:18,520 --> 02:22:21,560
Speaker 13: they have some promise they I think the future is

2895
02:22:21,640 --> 02:22:25,760
Speaker 13: brighter than expectations. Without Bill Belichick, I think it does

2896
02:22:25,800 --> 02:22:28,119
Speaker 13: clear up a bit. But I just don't think they

2897
02:22:28,160 --> 02:22:32,760
Speaker 13: have the experience at this point to not be on

2898
02:22:32,840 --> 02:22:35,960
Speaker 13: the wrong side of close games. So I'm gonna put

2899
02:22:35,959 --> 02:22:39,800
Speaker 13: them down at five and twelve, But I think a

2900
02:22:39,840 --> 02:22:41,879
Speaker 13: lot of those that's going to be some of those

2901
02:22:41,959 --> 02:22:44,520
Speaker 13: twelve losses. They're going to be close, They're going to

2902
02:22:44,560 --> 02:22:47,760
Speaker 13: be heartbreakers, they're going to be learning experiences.

2903
02:22:47,800 --> 02:22:48,119
Speaker 4: All right.

2904
02:22:48,200 --> 02:22:49,879
Speaker 10: You know what bump this wind total up for me?

2905
02:22:50,560 --> 02:22:53,440
Speaker 10: If they just brought back the throwback uniforms full time,

2906
02:22:53,480 --> 02:22:54,360
Speaker 10: the red.

2907
02:22:54,240 --> 02:22:57,720
Speaker 4: Jerseys, the Patriot, the Patriot Baby.

2908
02:22:58,360 --> 02:22:59,440
Speaker 10: Do that and we'll get you.

2909
02:22:59,440 --> 02:23:02,120
Speaker 4: To an I, by the way, are militant with our

2910
02:23:02,160 --> 02:23:07,640
Speaker 4: return to nineties jerseys. We'll get you to night within. Yeah.

2911
02:23:07,680 --> 02:23:12,119
Speaker 3: By the way, those jerseys were very complimentary to one

2912
02:23:12,200 --> 02:23:14,160
Speaker 3: rich Ornberger. Let me tell you when he saw it,

2913
02:23:14,200 --> 02:23:17,199
Speaker 3: when he put it on that uniform, woo hellow.

2914
02:23:17,840 --> 02:23:20,039
Speaker 2: That was occasionally I still put it on.

2915
02:23:21,800 --> 02:23:25,360
Speaker 4: And he tells me that. All right, So what, by

2916
02:23:25,360 --> 02:23:26,440
Speaker 4: the way, on the other side, we have.

2917
02:23:26,520 --> 02:23:29,480
Speaker 3: That one final team and why not Aaron Rodgers and

2918
02:23:29,520 --> 02:23:33,600
Speaker 3: the Jets. But first let's find out what is trending

2919
02:23:33,840 --> 02:23:38,160
Speaker 3: right now, all right, So Martin, let's get your thoughts

2920
02:23:38,320 --> 02:23:42,520
Speaker 3: on the AFC North. So who do you have winning

2921
02:23:42,600 --> 02:23:47,439
Speaker 3: the AFC North between the Browns, Bengals, Steelers and the Ravens.

2922
02:23:47,800 --> 02:23:50,760
Speaker 11: I would say right now, it's a toss.

2923
02:23:50,560 --> 02:23:53,960
Speaker 12: Up between the Bengals and the Ravens, and I'll go

2924
02:23:54,120 --> 02:23:57,440
Speaker 12: with my boy, Joe, Joe.

2925
02:23:56,520 --> 02:23:58,000
Speaker 11: Burra Cincinnati Bengals.

2926
02:23:58,080 --> 02:24:01,240
Speaker 4: Now do you see one or two wildcard team out

2927
02:24:01,240 --> 02:24:01,960
Speaker 4: of that division?

2928
02:24:04,040 --> 02:24:04,720
Speaker 11: Quick? Math?

2929
02:24:05,080 --> 02:24:08,880
Speaker 3: Two too, So you get the Ravens and Steelers and

2930
02:24:08,959 --> 02:24:10,720
Speaker 3: Steelers all right, very very good?

2931
02:24:11,320 --> 02:24:12,680
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think two get out of there.

2932
02:24:13,160 --> 02:24:17,000
Speaker 12: And then you're looking at one from the North, maybe

2933
02:24:17,040 --> 02:24:19,560
Speaker 12: one from the South, yeah.

2934
02:24:19,520 --> 02:24:21,200
Speaker 11: Or maybe one from the west too. I think that

2935
02:24:21,360 --> 02:24:21,880
Speaker 11: has a shot.

2936
02:24:21,959 --> 02:24:23,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is the North.

2937
02:24:23,920 --> 02:24:25,039
Speaker 11: So you have two out of the North.

2938
02:24:25,320 --> 02:24:29,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all right, I know the math comes up.

2939
02:24:30,320 --> 02:24:33,200
Speaker 4: We'll have to sort this all out very shortly. All right,

2940
02:24:33,400 --> 02:24:34,480
Speaker 4: what's happening out there, Martin?

2941
02:24:34,560 --> 02:24:36,800
Speaker 12: One team I don't have going either team I have

2942
02:24:36,879 --> 02:24:39,160
Speaker 12: going being wild cards or division winners, the Saints and

2943
02:24:39,200 --> 02:24:41,880
Speaker 12: the Titans. I know you get to the Saints next

2944
02:24:42,040 --> 02:24:46,080
Speaker 12: Sunday as we progress towards NFL kickoff for the real

2945
02:24:46,160 --> 02:24:49,039
Speaker 12: thing for this exhibition match preseason. The Titans right now

2946
02:24:49,080 --> 02:24:51,240
Speaker 12: with a twenty three to twenty lead, nine to forty

2947
02:24:51,280 --> 02:24:54,640
Speaker 12: left in the fourth quarter. Malik Willis remember him, He's

2948
02:24:54,840 --> 02:24:56,000
Speaker 12: closing out the game.

2949
02:24:55,920 --> 02:24:56,840
Speaker 11: For the Titans.

2950
02:24:57,200 --> 02:25:00,320
Speaker 12: Hasn't looked great so far, taking two sacks two for

2951
02:25:00,320 --> 02:25:02,480
Speaker 12: two forty six yards. Wi e Levis got the start,

2952
02:25:02,879 --> 02:25:05,760
Speaker 12: and Jake Hayner and Spencer Ratler playing musical chair as

2953
02:25:05,760 --> 02:25:07,960
Speaker 12: a quarterback for the Saints, trying to fill that second

2954
02:25:08,560 --> 02:25:12,360
Speaker 12: quarterback spot behind Derek Carr and now again twenty three

2955
02:25:12,440 --> 02:25:16,440
Speaker 12: to twenty in games that matter, The Yankees now have

2956
02:25:16,560 --> 02:25:19,200
Speaker 12: a seven run lead over the over the Rockies ten

2957
02:25:19,280 --> 02:25:22,440
Speaker 12: to three in the ninth inning. Dodgers and the Rays

2958
02:25:22,560 --> 02:25:25,119
Speaker 12: just getting started. The Giants two to one over Seattle

2959
02:25:25,160 --> 02:25:27,600
Speaker 12: in the first Milwaukee has a two to nothing lead

2960
02:25:27,640 --> 02:25:31,080
Speaker 12: over Oakland in the second inning. Philadelphia Pound in Kansas City.

2961
02:25:31,120 --> 02:25:32,879
Speaker 12: They're trying to Kansas City is trying to fight for

2962
02:25:32,920 --> 02:25:37,160
Speaker 12: that Al Wildcard. Well Philadelphia right now eleven to three

2963
02:25:37,280 --> 02:25:40,520
Speaker 12: in the eighth inning. Minnesota was leading for a lot

2964
02:25:40,560 --> 02:25:42,320
Speaker 12: of this game. Now the Cardinals with a three to

2965
02:25:42,320 --> 02:25:44,200
Speaker 12: two lead in the ninth inning. See if Minnesota can

2966
02:25:44,240 --> 02:25:46,520
Speaker 12: pull off a bottom of the ninth comeback here as

2967
02:25:46,520 --> 02:25:49,440
Speaker 12: they have one man on Earlier today, the Acy beat

2968
02:25:49,440 --> 02:25:52,000
Speaker 12: the sky seventy seven to seventy five, Asied Wilson with

2969
02:25:52,040 --> 02:25:55,240
Speaker 12: a game winner, Vegas improving to seventeen and eleven. Back

2970
02:25:55,280 --> 02:25:58,400
Speaker 12: to the NFL, Jamar Chase practice today in Cincinnati, his

2971
02:25:58,480 --> 02:26:01,360
Speaker 12: first practice as the ye receiver still in search of

2972
02:26:01,400 --> 02:26:03,519
Speaker 12: a new deal, Mike White.

2973
02:26:03,240 --> 02:26:04,640
Speaker 11: Released by the Miami Dolphins.

2974
02:26:04,720 --> 02:26:06,840
Speaker 12: Me and Skylar Thompson will be the backup for to

2975
02:26:07,040 --> 02:26:10,039
Speaker 12: a tongue of Biloa and the Rams have granted starting

2976
02:26:10,040 --> 02:26:13,560
Speaker 12: linebacker Ernest Jones permission to seek a trade, according to

2977
02:26:14,440 --> 02:26:18,520
Speaker 12: earlier reports, but according to Ernest Jones himself.

2978
02:26:18,280 --> 02:26:23,160
Speaker 11: He tweeted about two minutes ago, I did not ask

2979
02:26:23,240 --> 02:26:24,240
Speaker 11: for a trade.

2980
02:26:24,480 --> 02:26:26,640
Speaker 4: I think they're telling him he wants a trade.

2981
02:26:26,920 --> 02:26:28,840
Speaker 11: So it's a conflicting reports.

2982
02:26:28,959 --> 02:26:29,320
Speaker 2: Unsure.

2983
02:26:29,320 --> 02:26:31,560
Speaker 4: By the way, he was their leading tackler.

2984
02:26:31,840 --> 02:26:34,440
Speaker 12: In the final year of a contract situation. He's trying

2985
02:26:34,480 --> 02:26:37,360
Speaker 12: to get extended, uh, not working out. One of the

2986
02:26:37,560 --> 02:26:40,120
Speaker 12: not exactly a higher profile one is we see with

2987
02:26:40,200 --> 02:26:42,680
Speaker 12: Jamar Chase to some of these other guys, but teams

2988
02:26:42,760 --> 02:26:44,760
Speaker 12: leading tackler. I don't know, Rich, what do you say

2989
02:26:44,800 --> 02:26:45,840
Speaker 12: you want him back next year?

2990
02:26:46,400 --> 02:26:51,440
Speaker 2: I listen, Yeah, I think so, I think so. I mean, look,

2991
02:26:52,000 --> 02:26:52,920
Speaker 2: let's put it this way.

2992
02:26:53,040 --> 02:26:56,720
Speaker 4: What's the expectation without him? Yeah? Again, he was their

2993
02:26:56,800 --> 02:26:59,600
Speaker 4: leading tackler. Yeah, I agree, I don't know.

2994
02:26:59,760 --> 02:27:02,600
Speaker 12: Back to you guys, all right, baited breath, who's picking

2995
02:27:02,640 --> 02:27:03,640
Speaker 12: the Patriots in the East?

2996
02:27:04,080 --> 02:27:04,520
Speaker 4: Nobody?

2997
02:27:04,680 --> 02:27:07,879
Speaker 3: Nobody, no, no, no, no, we all solidly have them

2998
02:27:08,200 --> 02:27:08,640
Speaker 3: last week.

2999
02:27:08,720 --> 02:27:10,440
Speaker 2: We start drinking after this show.

3000
02:27:10,480 --> 02:27:12,920
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3001
02:27:12,920 --> 02:27:15,040
Speaker 4: don't forget after the show. Our podcast is going out.

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02:27:15,080 --> 02:27:16,840
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3010
02:27:32,040 --> 02:27:34,280
Speaker 3: the air. All right, fifteen teams down, one to go

3011
02:27:34,400 --> 02:27:36,760
Speaker 3: in the AFC, and that team is the New York

3012
02:27:36,840 --> 02:27:40,480
Speaker 3: Jets and Aaron Rodgers. Will this be the season that

3013
02:27:40,640 --> 02:27:42,840
Speaker 3: Jets fans are praying for, hoping for.

3014
02:27:43,959 --> 02:27:44,879
Speaker 4: My thought, and.

3015
02:27:44,840 --> 02:27:47,840
Speaker 3: I've been making this pretty clear over the last several weeks,

3016
02:27:48,000 --> 02:27:53,560
Speaker 3: is no, it's not nearly enough. Again, the last time

3017
02:27:53,640 --> 02:27:56,360
Speaker 3: we saw Aaron Rodgers at the top of his game

3018
02:27:56,959 --> 02:28:01,600
Speaker 3: was the twenty twenty one season, who was a down year,

3019
02:28:01,840 --> 02:28:04,840
Speaker 3: And I mentioned that few teams had a bigger quarterback

3020
02:28:04,920 --> 02:28:07,480
Speaker 3: upgrade from twenty two to twenty three than the Packers

3021
02:28:07,520 --> 02:28:11,440
Speaker 3: did by ridding themselves of Aaron Rodgers and inserting Jordan Love.

3022
02:28:11,920 --> 02:28:13,879
Speaker 4: And then he missed all of last year, all but

3023
02:28:14,000 --> 02:28:17,080
Speaker 4: four plays with a blown achilles And I was forty

3024
02:28:17,120 --> 02:28:19,760
Speaker 4: years old. By the way, Aaron Rodgers did not take

3025
02:28:19,800 --> 02:28:23,920
Speaker 4: a single snap in the preseason. Look, the Jets have

3026
02:28:24,320 --> 02:28:27,880
Speaker 4: a certainly a better than average defense. They got some weapons,

3027
02:28:27,920 --> 02:28:28,520
Speaker 4: but in.

3028
02:28:28,400 --> 02:28:31,120
Speaker 3: This division, I don't see how they come close to

3029
02:28:31,160 --> 02:28:34,240
Speaker 3: the Bills or Dolphins. They're better than the Patriots. I'll

3030
02:28:34,240 --> 02:28:37,560
Speaker 3: give them that they won seven games a year ago. Okay,

3031
02:28:38,160 --> 02:28:41,800
Speaker 3: the chance of Aaron Rodgers starting all seventeen games coming

3032
02:28:41,800 --> 02:28:44,520
Speaker 3: off a year where he blew his Achilles seemed remote.

3033
02:28:45,440 --> 02:28:49,800
Speaker 3: They'll hang in, They'll win eight games, but not nearly

3034
02:28:49,920 --> 02:28:52,680
Speaker 3: enough to get him into the postseason. That'll be the

3035
02:28:52,720 --> 02:28:55,400
Speaker 3: swan song for Robert Salah, could be the farewell for

3036
02:28:55,480 --> 02:28:56,320
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers.

3037
02:28:56,760 --> 02:29:00,720
Speaker 4: That's how I read it. With the Jets eight and nine, Rich, Okay.

3038
02:29:00,400 --> 02:29:03,720
Speaker 5: So I have a lot more belief in Aaron Rodgers,

3039
02:29:03,920 --> 02:29:08,160
Speaker 5: and also the roster assembled around Aaron Rodgers than you do.

3040
02:29:08,760 --> 02:29:11,039
Speaker 5: I think he has one of the top offenses in

3041
02:29:11,120 --> 02:29:13,880
Speaker 5: the league. What was that offense missing last year?

3042
02:29:14,360 --> 02:29:15,199
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers.

3043
02:29:15,440 --> 02:29:18,440
Speaker 5: Otherwise they would have been easily in the top ten

3044
02:29:18,959 --> 02:29:22,080
Speaker 5: and probably been in the top five because he's a

3045
02:29:22,120 --> 02:29:25,640
Speaker 5: talented quarterback and all they needed was a quarterback with

3046
02:29:26,280 --> 02:29:30,039
Speaker 5: some level of a heartbeat to unlock the full potential

3047
02:29:30,040 --> 02:29:33,000
Speaker 5: of that offense, and they couldn't even muster that. Now,

3048
02:29:33,040 --> 02:29:36,240
Speaker 5: defensively is a different story. They were very talented defense.

3049
02:29:36,680 --> 02:29:39,560
Speaker 5: Their offense was just so paltry that they couldn't hang

3050
02:29:39,600 --> 02:29:41,000
Speaker 5: in so many of those games.

3051
02:29:41,240 --> 02:29:41,800
Speaker 2: So it's a.

3052
02:29:41,720 --> 02:29:46,720
Speaker 5: Seven win team and when you look around at the losses,

3053
02:29:47,040 --> 02:29:52,480
Speaker 5: they had three of those of those ten losses within

3054
02:29:52,600 --> 02:29:55,720
Speaker 5: one score. Are you telling me if Aaron Rodgers isn't

3055
02:29:55,760 --> 02:29:58,320
Speaker 5: there last year. They don't have a ten win record,

3056
02:29:58,440 --> 02:30:02,320
Speaker 5: at least I'm saying they. So I'm going to put

3057
02:30:02,400 --> 02:30:05,760
Speaker 5: the Jets at ten wins this year. And unfortunately for

3058
02:30:05,800 --> 02:30:08,520
Speaker 5: the Jets, they go on the right road to play

3059
02:30:08,560 --> 02:30:12,320
Speaker 5: Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh in the middle of their season. That's

3060
02:30:12,360 --> 02:30:15,520
Speaker 5: a game they'll lose, which means that ten wins, the

3061
02:30:15,560 --> 02:30:18,960
Speaker 5: Steelers will get the wildcard bid over the Jets because

3062
02:30:19,320 --> 02:30:22,840
Speaker 5: they lose heads up to the Steelers. And so the

3063
02:30:22,920 --> 02:30:26,000
Speaker 5: Jets have ten wins, but they're left just on the

3064
02:30:26,040 --> 02:30:29,160
Speaker 5: outside looking in of the playoffs at the Bills with

3065
02:30:29,200 --> 02:30:32,600
Speaker 5: ten wins, who win a wildcard spot in their own division,

3066
02:30:33,040 --> 02:30:35,400
Speaker 5: and the Steelers who beat them out head to head

3067
02:30:35,720 --> 02:30:37,279
Speaker 5: for the final wildcard spot.

3068
02:30:37,440 --> 02:30:39,560
Speaker 3: Okay, so you have ten wins no playoff. I have

3069
02:30:39,680 --> 02:30:42,720
Speaker 3: eight to nine no playoff for Rubo with the Jets.

3070
02:30:43,720 --> 02:30:45,640
Speaker 10: Can we circle back in like three weeks and I

3071
02:30:45,640 --> 02:30:46,640
Speaker 10: can give you a better answer.

3072
02:30:46,840 --> 02:30:47,040
Speaker 4: No.

3073
02:30:47,200 --> 02:30:50,560
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I want to see them differences.

3074
02:30:50,680 --> 02:30:53,160
Speaker 10: I can see the Jets winning double digit games, and

3075
02:30:53,200 --> 02:30:55,520
Speaker 10: I can also see them losing a ton of games

3076
02:30:55,520 --> 02:30:59,000
Speaker 10: this year because I think the vibes there are pretty bad.

3077
02:30:59,600 --> 02:31:02,959
Speaker 10: I don't like the back and forth between Rogers and

3078
02:31:03,040 --> 02:31:06,879
Speaker 10: SLA Even if it's kind of innoculous, it doesn't bode well.

3079
02:31:06,920 --> 02:31:09,119
Speaker 10: And I think Robert Sala is a little and over

3080
02:31:09,160 --> 02:31:11,040
Speaker 10: his head out there in New York anyway. I think

3081
02:31:11,080 --> 02:31:14,720
Speaker 10: he created that entire drama about Rogers offseason himself for

3082
02:31:14,800 --> 02:31:19,600
Speaker 10: no reason. I think they're gonna win ten games. I'll

3083
02:31:19,640 --> 02:31:21,960
Speaker 10: split the difference and say they'll win ten games because

3084
02:31:21,959 --> 02:31:23,440
Speaker 10: I do think there's a ton of talent on the

3085
02:31:23,520 --> 02:31:26,600
Speaker 10: Jets roster. But much like the Bills, where the vibes

3086
02:31:26,640 --> 02:31:28,800
Speaker 10: are good, I think the vibes are pretty bad. Hair

3087
02:31:28,879 --> 02:31:29,400
Speaker 10: in New York?

3088
02:31:29,600 --> 02:31:32,920
Speaker 3: Is that ten wins and a wildcard? All right, we'll

3089
02:31:32,920 --> 02:31:34,680
Speaker 3: get back to you because you have a couple of teams.

3090
02:31:34,720 --> 02:31:37,160
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to give us your final wildcards here shortly,

3091
02:31:37,200 --> 02:31:39,160
Speaker 3: bo Chris, where are you with the Jets?

3092
02:31:39,240 --> 02:31:41,520
Speaker 4: You know I hate to do this. You know I

3093
02:31:41,600 --> 02:31:42,199
Speaker 4: hate him.

3094
02:31:42,520 --> 02:31:45,240
Speaker 13: You know I despise him with every fiber of my being,

3095
02:31:45,360 --> 02:31:49,400
Speaker 13: just like I despise everything within the confines of Soldier Field.

3096
02:31:49,920 --> 02:31:51,960
Speaker 13: But I mean, you guys brought it up. They won

3097
02:31:52,040 --> 02:31:55,920
Speaker 13: seven games without Aaron Rodgers last year. That defense is legitimate.

3098
02:31:56,000 --> 02:31:58,800
Speaker 13: Robert Sala, for whatever his fault, is a very good,

3099
02:31:58,840 --> 02:32:01,320
Speaker 13: defensive minded code. I think you should probably be a

3100
02:32:01,360 --> 02:32:03,920
Speaker 13: coordinator more than a coach, And this is kind of

3101
02:32:04,000 --> 02:32:06,520
Speaker 13: one of the downfalls of hiring coordinators to be coaches,

3102
02:32:06,560 --> 02:32:09,360
Speaker 13: because sometimes they're just better at scheming this stuff than

3103
02:32:09,440 --> 02:32:11,600
Speaker 13: being the head coach and dealing with everything that comes

3104
02:32:11,640 --> 02:32:14,040
Speaker 13: with it. I really like their pick up alofa shan

3105
02:32:14,120 --> 02:32:16,480
Speaker 13: Who in the draft. I think they've invested well in

3106
02:32:16,520 --> 02:32:20,440
Speaker 13: the offensive line. Garrett Wilson remains a very interesting weapon,

3107
02:32:20,560 --> 02:32:23,800
Speaker 13: so does the running back Brease Hall. If Aaron Rodgers

3108
02:32:23,840 --> 02:32:27,200
Speaker 13: stay healthy, I know that's a big if. I think

3109
02:32:27,280 --> 02:32:30,000
Speaker 13: that's enough to get them probably to ten wins in

3110
02:32:30,040 --> 02:32:32,520
Speaker 13: a wildcard spot. Now I don't have I don't have

3111
02:32:32,640 --> 02:32:34,440
Speaker 13: much faith of them in the playoffs.

3112
02:32:34,480 --> 02:32:36,440
Speaker 3: After that, we're not talking about Olay, So we're just

3113
02:32:36,480 --> 02:32:39,160
Speaker 3: talking about the positions, all right. Everybody is now in

3114
02:32:39,200 --> 02:32:41,160
Speaker 3: the book. So I want to run this down quickly.

3115
02:32:41,720 --> 02:32:44,160
Speaker 3: I want each of us to say our four division

3116
02:32:44,200 --> 02:32:46,240
Speaker 3: winners and our three wildcards.

3117
02:32:46,240 --> 02:32:48,600
Speaker 4: Has everybody ready to do that? We're all ready to go?

3118
02:32:48,720 --> 02:32:50,160
Speaker 4: Here we go. I'll start.

3119
02:32:50,440 --> 02:32:55,359
Speaker 3: My four division winners are the Chiefs, the Jaguars, the Bengals,

3120
02:32:55,760 --> 02:33:00,560
Speaker 3: and the Bills. And my wildcards are the Broncos, the Rounds,

3121
02:33:01,360 --> 02:33:02,640
Speaker 3: and the Dolphins.

3122
02:33:02,959 --> 02:33:08,320
Speaker 5: Ricky, my division winners are the Chiefs, the Jaguars, the Ravens,

3123
02:33:08,959 --> 02:33:12,480
Speaker 5: and the Dolphins. And then my wildcards are the Bills,

3124
02:33:13,200 --> 02:33:14,800
Speaker 5: the Bengals and the Steelers.

3125
02:33:14,879 --> 02:33:18,119
Speaker 3: All right, so those are in bo your four division winners,

3126
02:33:18,120 --> 02:33:19,120
Speaker 3: your three wildcards.

3127
02:33:19,160 --> 02:33:25,360
Speaker 10: I'm going on Chiefs, Texans, Bengals, and the Bills. And

3128
02:33:25,400 --> 02:33:31,840
Speaker 10: my wild cards put the Ravens in the wildcard spot.

3129
02:33:32,280 --> 02:33:34,320
Speaker 10: I put the Dolphins in the wildcard spot, and I'm

3130
02:33:34,400 --> 02:33:35,880
Speaker 10: put the Jets in the wildcard spot.

3131
02:33:36,040 --> 02:33:38,400
Speaker 4: Going with the Jets in that wildcard spot.

3132
02:33:38,520 --> 02:33:39,680
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think they're gonna sneak in.

3133
02:33:39,920 --> 02:33:42,960
Speaker 5: Okay, wins did you say the Patriots are gonna have again?

3134
02:33:43,000 --> 02:33:45,840
Speaker 4: But y had six six at solid six?

3135
02:33:46,320 --> 02:33:49,680
Speaker 3: All right, Chris, final say for you your four division winners,

3136
02:33:49,680 --> 02:33:51,199
Speaker 3: your three wildcards in the AFC.

3137
02:33:51,360 --> 02:33:53,240
Speaker 13: I'm trying to remember all my math, and I hope

3138
02:33:53,280 --> 02:33:56,600
Speaker 13: I'm not doing anything wrong here. I've got the I

3139
02:33:56,640 --> 02:33:58,440
Speaker 13: mean for the one we gets the wildcards. I know

3140
02:33:58,520 --> 02:34:03,720
Speaker 13: my division winners. Iief's Texans, Bengals, Bill, same as Bow.

3141
02:34:04,240 --> 02:34:07,640
Speaker 13: My wild cards, I actually have none coming from the AFC. West,

3142
02:34:07,680 --> 02:34:10,560
Speaker 13: I do have the Jaguars sneaking in as a wild card.

3143
02:34:10,959 --> 02:34:14,280
Speaker 13: I have the Ravens as a very stumbling wild card

3144
02:34:14,400 --> 02:34:17,520
Speaker 13: losing out on that division. And I have the Jets

3145
02:34:18,080 --> 02:34:21,119
Speaker 13: probably I said ten wins when I was originally thinking nine,

3146
02:34:21,240 --> 02:34:23,199
Speaker 13: so I'm like teetering around there, but I think they'll

3147
02:34:23,640 --> 02:34:28,200
Speaker 13: they'll get in. So yeah, my wild cards again, Jaguars, Ravens, Jets.

3148
02:34:28,360 --> 02:34:31,400
Speaker 3: Okay, on the other side, final piece of the puzzle,

3149
02:34:31,920 --> 02:34:34,600
Speaker 3: we will all make our prediction on which two teams

3150
02:34:34,640 --> 02:34:38,560
Speaker 3: will face off in the AFC Championship Game.

3151
02:34:38,879 --> 02:34:41,080
Speaker 4: This is Fox Sports Sunday.

3152
02:34:40,840 --> 02:34:45,280
Speaker 3: Steve Harman and Rich Hornberger Fox Sports Sunday. Once again,

3153
02:34:45,440 --> 02:34:48,840
Speaker 3: we are live from the tire rack dot Com studios.

3154
02:34:49,400 --> 02:34:53,000
Speaker 3: Really want to thank everybody today. Mike Harmon just stepped in.

3155
02:34:53,080 --> 02:34:55,080
Speaker 3: He's going to be on deck here. He was saying,

3156
02:34:55,360 --> 02:34:59,199
Speaker 3: I've never heard less Hartman on a show than today's show.

3157
02:35:00,600 --> 02:35:03,240
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean we've We've had everybody in the

3158
02:35:03,280 --> 02:35:08,039
Speaker 3: house with their thoughts. By the way, Martin, your thoughts

3159
02:35:08,320 --> 02:35:11,959
Speaker 3: will get your final thoughts on the AFC East, Who

3160
02:35:12,000 --> 02:35:14,119
Speaker 3: do you think is going to win the AFC East

3161
02:35:14,720 --> 02:35:19,920
Speaker 3: Buffalo Buffalo any wildcard teams out of the East. No, no,

3162
02:35:20,240 --> 02:35:23,280
Speaker 3: there it is. So Martin is in the books. We're

3163
02:35:23,320 --> 02:35:26,280
Speaker 3: all in the books right now. Well, I would like

3164
02:35:26,320 --> 02:35:29,280
Speaker 3: to thank Bo and Chris for their incredible input today.

3165
02:35:29,320 --> 02:35:32,199
Speaker 4: It's been a lot of talk, guys, but we're sort.

3166
02:35:32,000 --> 02:35:34,080
Speaker 3: Of warming up because next week we're going to do

3167
02:35:34,560 --> 02:35:36,360
Speaker 3: break down to the NFC and then of course once

3168
02:35:36,360 --> 02:35:38,879
Speaker 3: we get the red zone radio everyone.

3169
02:35:38,720 --> 02:35:41,480
Speaker 13: This is a good experience. Just get the hatchet warmed up,

3170
02:35:41,520 --> 02:35:44,760
Speaker 13: all the battle axe to two teams. Okay, here's what.

3171
02:35:44,680 --> 02:35:46,760
Speaker 3: I want to do, and I want to make this

3172
02:35:46,800 --> 02:35:48,920
Speaker 3: one hundred percent very clear to all of us.

3173
02:35:48,959 --> 02:35:50,680
Speaker 4: Okay, I want you.

3174
02:35:50,600 --> 02:35:54,080
Speaker 3: Guys to pick the two teams that will appear in

3175
02:35:54,120 --> 02:35:57,039
Speaker 3: the AFC Championship Game, but I don't want you to

3176
02:35:57,080 --> 02:36:02,640
Speaker 3: pick a winner. They'll say, okay, so just pick the

3177
02:36:02,720 --> 02:36:07,120
Speaker 3: two teams that will face off in the AFC Championship Game,

3178
02:36:07,120 --> 02:36:09,880
Speaker 3: but do not say a winner. We'll save that for

3179
02:36:10,200 --> 02:36:12,720
Speaker 3: next week. All right, Here we go my pick of

3180
02:36:12,840 --> 02:36:16,640
Speaker 3: the two teams in the AFC Championship Game. And to me,

3181
02:36:16,760 --> 02:36:19,840
Speaker 3: it seems like a clear path for both these teams.

3182
02:36:19,879 --> 02:36:21,840
Speaker 3: And everything is predicated on health.

3183
02:36:21,840 --> 02:36:24,120
Speaker 4: We get all that, but.

3184
02:36:23,360 --> 02:36:25,640
Speaker 3: To me, it's going to be where we were just

3185
02:36:25,680 --> 02:36:29,040
Speaker 3: three years ago, and that is the Chiefs and the Bengals.

3186
02:36:30,480 --> 02:36:32,920
Speaker 3: I still think that when it's all said and done,

3187
02:36:33,360 --> 02:36:37,640
Speaker 3: the Mahomesborough rivalry, when it's all, you know, a decade

3188
02:36:37,680 --> 02:36:39,879
Speaker 3: from now, people look back saying that's one of the

3189
02:36:39,879 --> 02:36:44,280
Speaker 3: great quarterback rivalries of all time and it's going to

3190
02:36:44,320 --> 02:36:47,480
Speaker 3: be back in full focused. So I got the Chiefs

3191
02:36:48,080 --> 02:36:51,720
Speaker 3: and the Bengals in the AFC Championship game, Rich.

3192
02:36:51,720 --> 02:36:54,320
Speaker 2: So you have two division winners. I have a division

3193
02:36:54,360 --> 02:36:57,720
Speaker 2: winner and a wild card. So the Chiefs are in.

3194
02:36:59,000 --> 02:37:03,200
Speaker 5: But then it's also the Bengals, but a different route

3195
02:37:03,280 --> 02:37:05,360
Speaker 5: because they're gonna have to knock off the Bills.

3196
02:37:05,520 --> 02:37:06,879
Speaker 2: Yep, they'll host.

3197
02:37:06,600 --> 02:37:09,480
Speaker 5: Them and then they're going to face a familiar foe,

3198
02:37:10,000 --> 02:37:13,680
Speaker 5: the Ravens next, and then they're gonna face the Chiefs

3199
02:37:13,720 --> 02:37:15,480
Speaker 5: in the AFC Championship game.

3200
02:37:15,480 --> 02:37:18,280
Speaker 3: All right, So we both have Chiefs and Bengals in

3201
02:37:18,320 --> 02:37:20,200
Speaker 3: the AFC Championship game.

3202
02:37:20,280 --> 02:37:21,199
Speaker 4: Bo, who do you have.

3203
02:37:21,920 --> 02:37:24,600
Speaker 10: Have the Chiefs and the Bills in the AFC Title game?

3204
02:37:24,720 --> 02:37:28,760
Speaker 3: Going with the Bills in that matchup for the AFC

3205
02:37:28,840 --> 02:37:31,640
Speaker 3: Championship So Christ here the final one. Well, we'll get

3206
02:37:31,680 --> 02:37:34,400
Speaker 3: back to Martin as well. But what do you say

3207
02:37:34,440 --> 02:37:38,840
Speaker 3: which two teams will face off in the AFC Championship Game.

3208
02:37:39,280 --> 02:37:41,480
Speaker 13: This is boring. I want to go bolst the walls

3209
02:37:41,480 --> 02:37:46,680
Speaker 13: on this. I want to I want to really go

3210
02:37:46,760 --> 02:37:50,879
Speaker 13: off the board here. I was just checking my numbers.

3211
02:37:50,920 --> 02:37:53,640
Speaker 13: I'm gonna have the Bills because I think they'll be

3212
02:37:53,680 --> 02:37:56,240
Speaker 13: able to They'll be able to have the advantage of

3213
02:37:56,280 --> 02:38:00,760
Speaker 13: some tiebreaker stuff and end up posting hosts and that'll

3214
02:38:00,760 --> 02:38:03,000
Speaker 13: be the difference for them for a lot of this.

3215
02:38:04,280 --> 02:38:06,720
Speaker 13: And I am going to put after a long time

3216
02:38:06,760 --> 02:38:08,440
Speaker 13: talking about whether or not they can get over the hump,

3217
02:38:08,440 --> 02:38:11,200
Speaker 13: whether or not they can really do this, whether or

3218
02:38:11,200 --> 02:38:11,760
Speaker 13: not they.

3219
02:38:11,640 --> 02:38:16,080
Speaker 4: Can get here. I'm gonna have Bills and the Jacksonville Jaguars.

3220
02:38:16,080 --> 02:38:16,800
Speaker 4: How about that?

3221
02:38:17,000 --> 02:38:17,280
Speaker 11: Wow?

3222
02:38:17,360 --> 02:38:17,640
Speaker 2: Wow?

3223
02:38:18,680 --> 02:38:19,760
Speaker 4: I need to go I need.

3224
02:38:19,680 --> 02:38:23,240
Speaker 13: To go broad here, I need to go wild. It's

3225
02:38:23,280 --> 02:38:24,840
Speaker 13: hard for me to doubt that the Chiefs will be

3226
02:38:24,879 --> 02:38:27,280
Speaker 13: out here, but I think I have some math in

3227
02:38:27,320 --> 02:38:27,600
Speaker 13: my head.

3228
02:38:27,760 --> 02:38:29,880
Speaker 4: Will Beauars. I like it, look at it.

3229
02:38:30,280 --> 02:38:33,200
Speaker 3: I have the Jags as a easy winner in my

3230
02:38:33,280 --> 02:38:35,720
Speaker 3: opinion of the AFC South with the big rebound here

3231
02:38:35,720 --> 02:38:38,879
Speaker 3: from Trevor Larrence. All right, Martin, which two teams do

3232
02:38:39,000 --> 02:38:42,480
Speaker 3: not pick a winner, which two teams will match up

3233
02:38:42,480 --> 02:38:44,080
Speaker 3: in the AFC Championship Game.

3234
02:38:44,400 --> 02:38:49,600
Speaker 12: It will be held at Cincinnati Bengals versus the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: Bengals Chiefs in Cincy, Yes, Cincy. All right, very very good. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 3: there it is. We've we've covered it all here. As

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Speaker 3: far as the AFC is concerned, I think that when

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Speaker 3: we look at the AFC as a whole, we're really

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Speaker 3: not varying that much. Guys, from the way it played

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Speaker 3: out a year ago. I mean again, when we went

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Speaker 3: into last year, nobody.

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Speaker 4: Could have picked the Houston Texas.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: I think the only thing we're really differing on is

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Speaker 13: Bengals and Ravens, and then are just wildcards are just

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Speaker 13: over the board.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean again, I've got the Broncos in as

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Speaker 3: a wildcard. Okay, so that's and I think they're just

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Speaker 3: going to take advantage of really down years for the

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Speaker 3: Raiders and the Chargers and get a couple extra wins

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Speaker 3: enough to sneak him into a wildcard.

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Speaker 4: But Rich, I like where you are at as well.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you like the Jets, but then

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Speaker 3: you got that mid season game against the Steelers and

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Speaker 3: games in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 4: I takes, So, yeah, that's going to be the tie break.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be a tiebreaker.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, really, the biggest change for my list

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Speaker 5: is just the Texans being on the outside looking in,

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Speaker 5: the Jaguars winning that division that that's just such a

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Speaker 5: big switch up to the way it looked a year ago.

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Speaker 5: And then obviously the Bengals roaring back with a healthy

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Speaker 5: Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think most of us agree that Joe Burrow healthy

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Speaker 3: obviously makes a world difference as far as the AC

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Speaker 3: is concerned. All Right, we did our job today and

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Speaker 3: breaking down the NFC. Remember next week we'll have the

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Speaker 3: NFC Breakdown, and then we become Red Zone Radio.

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