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Speaker 1: Here's Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon.

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Speaker 3: It is Super Bowl week. He is Mike Harmon. Hit

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Speaker 3: Byer on Fox. Also Dan Byer on Blue Sky. And

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Speaker 3: Now we've had a week to simmer on the Super

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Speaker 3: Bowl matchup. Mike, I know you're on the IR last week.

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Speaker 3: No voice, the voice is trying to battle back.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, bit by bit, bit bit by bit.

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Speaker 3: But as we sit here, do you do you have

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Speaker 3: any more love for an Eagles Chiefs Super Bowl? Do

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Speaker 3: you have any less love now that we're less than

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Speaker 3: a week away?

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I didn't hate it, and it's you

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Speaker 5: know concept right, the construct is, I guess for sports

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Speaker 5: dog radio debates, we we have to decide whether we

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Speaker 5: know we love dynasties until we don't. We've had this

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Speaker 5: didn't look so pretty after a while. But all of

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Speaker 5: that to say, you know, we're looking at a team

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Speaker 5: that has done it in myriad ways during this era

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Speaker 5: and finally put up some points in that AFC title game.

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Speaker 5: So is that uh, you know, foreshadowing of what they

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Speaker 5: right historically not exact exactly at their best their coordinator,

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Speaker 5: that is, in terms of these matchups. As for the

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Speaker 5: Eagles themselves, we've been waiting for at every turn for

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Speaker 5: this to blow up. Right, Nick Siriani's gonna get mad

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Speaker 5: sit and continue to read his book. Jalen Hurts can't

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Speaker 5: play either because he's hurt or just you've decided, even

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Speaker 5: though he's now going to his second Super Bowl that

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Speaker 5: he can't play so long as that offensive line's intact,

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Speaker 5: and Saquon Barkley's in to. I think we get us

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Speaker 5: ourselves a fun contest. You know, we don't like chalk

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Speaker 5: unless we do right, because this confirmed a lot of

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Speaker 5: and we certainly need have none of that here.

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Speaker 3: The Eagles, I think are the saving grace when you

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Speaker 3: were out last week. I just lamented for this Super

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Speaker 4: NFL changes, like when NFL history changes.

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Speaker 3: Sure, and the repeat of the Super Bowl two years

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Speaker 4: And it's it's funny. I don't want to sit here

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Speaker 3: But watching the Grammys on Sunday night and Taylor Swift

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Speaker 3: just so searching for the Philadelphia Eagles, who in my

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Speaker 3: it just a little bit. But it's more because I

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Speaker 3: feel that the Eagles are a different team. It's just

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Speaker 2: I get that.

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Speaker 2: You know, all of those kind of things like you're

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Speaker 5: Worst of humanity in a nutshell right there, and why

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Speaker 5: you know, some folks get turned off from the game immediately.

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Speaker 5: But DeAndre Hopkins just he's had a fun career. To

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Speaker 5: was always a number three. I mean, how many times

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Speaker 5: I certainly had him on many dance cards through the years.

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Speaker 4: Worked at Magic Mountain for a little while up the

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Speaker 5: A guy from Purdue can actually be a difference maker again,

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Speaker 5: and George Garloftus talk boiler Maker football except for Drew Brees.

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Speaker 4: So great plays against Josh Allen on Sunday.

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Speaker 5: Something about you know, going back to the Eagles, Makai

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Speaker 5: the Cooper Dejene story is one that many people hang

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Speaker 5: YB would cheer the Eagles a man who's fighting out

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Speaker 3: It's the Eagles have a bunch of storylines, and one

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Speaker 3: When you talk about Cooper Dejene, you talk about Quinnon Mitchell,

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Speaker 3: I actually think because Vic Fangio is running it. They

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Speaker 4: As we think that it is.

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Speaker 3: We saw it against the Packers. Zach Bonds had a

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 5: You also brought up, you know, the Taylor Swift effect

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Speaker 5: for the Grammys. The thing I'll always celebrate her And look,

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Speaker 5: through the years. But the fact that she celebrates everybody

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Speaker 5: that said, I'm not you know one who's anti Taylor

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Speaker 5: I don't mean Danny DeVito, the other guy mcahaney. Yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: By the way, what does happen with Wrexham with all

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Speaker 6: say that my girlfriend did come. She made me watch

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Speaker 6: was the okay? It was all right, It was all right.

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Speaker 6: those Colleen Hoover, you know, kind of one of those flicks.

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Speaker 4: I know, I took it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I've wondered myself because I have enjoyed the Wrexham

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Speaker 3: all of this drama that's going on. But we could

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Speaker 3: get back to the main topic, and you're actually, your

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Speaker 3: point about Taylor Swift is well received, Mike, because it

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Speaker 3: was even pointed out that Taylor Swift is sitting there

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Speaker 2: Her, right, it's the entire show.

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Speaker 3: It's just like, now that may get annoying, but you

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Speaker 3: camera if she's just constantly dancing throughout the entire Like

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Speaker 3: Kendrick Lamar got an award, so it wasn't like Kendrick

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Speaker 3: Lamar was performing, but he got an award, and she

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Speaker 3: was still dancing, and.

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Speaker 5: She was dancing and was raising whatever the hell she

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Speaker 5: was drinking. She was having her best life.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I just saw on Sunday night and saw her on

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Speaker 3: Sunday night she again gave out an award.

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Speaker 4: Again.

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Speaker 3: This is this isn't anything that's her fault necessarily, there's

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Speaker 3: And so you know it sounds, yeah, it sounds completely biased,

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Speaker 5: Hey, that's sometimes you just got to talk it out

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Speaker 2: With us push exactly. Then he is a longtime friend,

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Speaker 4: Is Mike Carmon, I'm Dan Byer.

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Speaker 3: Ian Roddy is hanging out talking about Super Bowl fifty nine.

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Speaker 3: for Super Bowl fifty nine. Mike, we're gonna do some

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Speaker 3: Chiefs going for their three peat over under sitting there

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Speaker 3: Where are you in terms of leaning sidewise point wise?

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Speaker 2: I am leaning to the over and a three peat.

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Speaker 3: When it gets down to it, Kansas City just is

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Speaker 5: The devil's in the margins and I'm just wondering. And

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Speaker 3: The part of the game that I think is interesting.

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Speaker 4: But the reason why I think that you say that

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Speaker 3: One of the Chiefs that was on the stage that

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Speaker 3: maybe Harrison Butker ends up being like my most important player,

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Speaker 3: Harrison Butker is going to have a say in it,

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Speaker 4: He kicked the game winning field goal at the end

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Speaker 6: Do you think I must say in women's women's right, Well.

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Speaker 5: Not to go down that, but how much of the

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Speaker 2: Sure, Oh, people are gonna want to talk to Harrison.

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Speaker 3: There instead of I'm going to Disney World. He's like,

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Speaker 2: My kids have some thoughts. They'd love to know.

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Speaker 4: The uh. I I like Kansas City's defense obviously, for

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Speaker 4: I think Jalen Hurts his legs will hurt them again.

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Speaker 3: Kansas to be fortunate to win that game, but Jalen

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Speaker 4: I just think that this time around, and I know

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Speaker 3: Of Super Bowls, whoever wins the first one, I think

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Speaker 4: With the win. But right now I'm with you on

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Speaker 2: Mahomes eight no against Vic Fangio. Does it matter?

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Speaker 4: Again. Their personnel is different just like Kansas City is

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Speaker 4: But that is a formidable stat for your argument. That

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Speaker 5: Sure'ta can't wait to watch regardless, I mean, I hate

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Speaker 4: Ian where do you lean on this game? Right now?

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Speaker 6: I'm actually gonna take the under. I'm I'm taking the

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Speaker 6: So I'm gonna take the under, but I do have

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Speaker 3: In my very ungambling and Unlas Vegas type of thinking,

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Speaker 3: But I do think that you can take advantage. Things

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Speaker 5: I think it's it's the fun chess match and certainly,

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Speaker 2: Do you think they built a little shrine to him,

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Speaker 4: I'm going faceless ball cap.

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Speaker 3: That's where I think, no logo, nothing, just although if

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Speaker 5: That it's right underneath there. I don't need anything super

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Speaker 3: Yes, let's get to work. It's like I'm going down

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Speaker 3: I got work to do. That's what he should do.

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Speaker 3: If he loses, I'll tell you what they got or less,

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Speaker 3: They've tried to push it down the road for a

438
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Speaker 3: while and now that that day is due, and now

439
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 3: it's time to Now it's time to pay, and I

440
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 3: think that they're going to pay severely.

441
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,439
Speaker 4: Too bad for a lot of a lot of the

442
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 4: guys there.

443
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 3: And this is even some of this stuff it's not

444
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,640
Speaker 3: dating back to Drew Brees, but it is dating back

445
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 3: to Drew Brees and trying to hang on and I

446
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 3: know he's been gone for a couple of years, but

447
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 3: you try to stay competitive. Also that division, Mike take

448
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 3: out the Tom Brady years, but you always kind of

449
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 3: felt that that division was winnable maybe, and so you

450
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 3: have these false hopes of all right, let's do it,

451
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 3: let's go for it, let's let's try to win this,

452
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 3: you know, try to win this. It's maybe Tampa's not

453
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 3: the greatest team in the NFL, that we can go

454
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 3: and beat them, and so you think that you're able to.

455
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 3: And they had some interesting games with Tampa, for sure.

456
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 3: So when you're competing against them and their winning divisions,

457
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 3: maybe you're thinking that you're a little bit closer than

458
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 3: you are and not just far ways away.

459
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 5: Well, look at the falls hope they had for a

460
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 5: stretch this year, and I picked them on our board

461
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 5: in the studio as the worst team in football. Yeah,

462
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 5: and for a while, I mean, they come out of

463
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 5: the gates, they're scoring points, flying all around, and then

464
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 5: reality punched you in the face. But not without a

465
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 5: couple of blips of supreme life to make you say,

466
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 5: all right, well and perhaps to fool yourself to your point,

467
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,360
Speaker 5: Dan of that you're closer than you are.

468
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 3: M Saints jumped out too, and know I was right

469
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 3: there with you when the predictions came out. I also

470
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 3: said the Saints. I saw this on x Ian. I

471
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 3: don't know if you saw this as well. I can't

472
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 3: remember who put it.

473
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Speaker 4: I can't remember it was your boy Furman Mike who

474
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 4: put it out, or if it was.

475
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 3: Phasik or who it was. But the misread awful line

476
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 3: of the year. Week three, Saints two and a half

477
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 3: point favorites over the Philadelphia Think about that. The Saints

478
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 3: were a two and a half point favorite this year

479
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 3: over the Philadelphia Eagles.

480
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Speaker 5: Crazy folks get excitable. Yeah, here's what I saw on Sunday,

481
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Speaker 5: Baby Oh.

482
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Speaker 3: Week one doesn't mean anything, but Week two that's who

483
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Speaker 3: they really are.

484
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 4: People bought into that one.

485
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 3: Uh perfect, perfect time to take a time out because

486
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 3: we'll have some prop bets on the other side for

487
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 3: Super Bowl fifty nine. I also feel that this Miles

488
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 3: Garrett Cooper Cup news is a big deal, specifically the

489
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 3: Cooper Cup deal. I'll tell you why. He's Mike Carmen.

490
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Speaker 3: That's Ian Rodney, our executive producer. Will be back next

491
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Speaker 3: year when I want your flex. It is I want

492
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 3: your flex. I'm Dan Byer, He's my car. That's Ian Roddy.

493
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 3: Before we get to the prop bets that we've got

494
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Speaker 3: for Super Bowl fifty nine, Miles Garrett, he is asked

495
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 3: for a trade out of Cleveland.

496
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 4: Cooper Cup was told by the Rams that they're going

497
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 4: to try and trade him. Interesting times in the NFL.

498
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Speaker 3: Mike, I'm intrigued by the Cup news because I think

499
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 3: teams will see this and not that Cooper Cup is

500
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 3: going to give you a first round pick or a

501
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 3: second round pick or anything like that. But I think

502
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 3: that they are going to be receivers moved in this offseason,

503
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 3: and I'm curious if teams now will get I don't know,

504
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 3: itchy trigger finger and trying to move some guys, trying

505
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 3: to deal some guys. I think the wide receiver movement

506
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 3: that we could get this offseason is interesting me as

507
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 3: Seahawks fan.

508
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 4: I think DK Metcalf could be on the move at

509
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 4: some point.

510
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 3: There's just a lot of names out there, and Cooper

511
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 3: Cup being available could be a cheap option for someone

512
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 3: may want force these other teams to say, like, Okay.

513
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 4: Maybe we need to start moving on our wide receivers.

514
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, some crazy activity. Right, we had all the movement

515
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 5: and trades and signings in the w NBA. Then we

516
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 5: get Luca for Anthony Davis and the whole world goes

517
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 5: nuts for a weekend.

518
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, wait, super Bowl still coming. I'll wait.

519
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 5: But we've got a couple of guys that might be

520
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 5: on the move here with Cooper cup right, he's got

521
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 5: the it's tied with Keenan Allen for the twelfth highest

522
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 5: wide receiver contract. So I need to do some things

523
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 5: with some monies if I'm going to bring him on Dan.

524
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 5: That's that's part of the process. So wondering if folks

525
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 5: play the waiting game, if the Rams aren't amenable to

526
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 5: eating some of the cash that you know, it's like

527
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 5: I eventually got to cut him or you got to

528
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 5: eat some of that money.

529
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Speaker 2: Let's figure it out.

530
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Speaker 5: But certainly a guy what was he near to seventy

531
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 5: catches again, even in limited time and playing second fiddle.

532
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 5: So the style that he plays when we talk about

533
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 5: the change of the game, we're not mad bombering it

534
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 5: all over the place. Is that a word now? I

535
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 5: don't think so, but I'll make it one. And we

536
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 5: want to run the ball, play efficiently, move the chains

537
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 5: made Cooper Cup for the ten to twelve games you're

538
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 5: gonna get.

539
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 2: There are a few better in the game.

540
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 5: So as long as my cost isn't prohibitive, then I'm

541
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 5: all for take your third day draft pick or whatever.

542
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 5: Let's figure out the money and he can become a

543
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 5: part of my squad anytime.

544
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 4: I The T.

545
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 3: Higgins situation is gonna be one that we're gonna be

546
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 3: watching as far. For some reason, I think Cooper Cup

547
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 3: ends up as a member of the Dallas Cowboys. And

548
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm just thinking because they also

549
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 3: have Cooper Rush, then they could just lead the NFC

550
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:45,479
Speaker 3: East in Cooper's tie with the Eagles. But it just

551
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 3: seems like such a cowboy thing to do. I don't

552
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 3: know why. Let's make a move. We'd said we're all

553
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 3: in last year and we didn't do anything. Now we're

554
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 3: all in part due and let's just go and try

555
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 3: to trade for a wide receiver. That something has something

556
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 3: left in the tank, others not so much.

557
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 6: Does it seem like like the Rams might know something though,

558
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 6: like it's it seems like Cooper Cup the end of

559
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 6: the year kind of kind of slow had zero catches

560
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 6: in the last few games, or maybe like one or two,

561
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 6: and now he's on the trade block. It just feels

562
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 6: like they know something like maybe his injury is lingering

563
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,239
Speaker 6: and he's not going to be the same guy when

564
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 6: he comes back.

565
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 4: I think that there's something to that. Ian.

566
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 3: I also think that it's code for we want something

567
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 3: for Cooper Cup. Otherwise we're probably just going to try to,

568
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 3: as Mike says, let him go, you know, or that

569
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 3: could be the option.

570
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 5: Well, it seems not to cut you off there, Dan,

571
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 5: but like part of it is mcveigh's trying to get

572
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 5: going on whatever the build. The next iteration is right

573
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 5: the Matthew Stafford talk of we're not waiting around like

574
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 5: last year, or just we're not We can't afford to

575
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 5: because if he's not ready to go. I mean, look

576
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 5: how important September was to so many squads, Like, hey,

577
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 5: you know what, if you'd believe he's played five hundred

578
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 5: ball off the jump they lost to the Bears for

579
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 5: crying out loud, all.

580
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: Right, so I had to do it.

581
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 5: But just their start to the season was so off

582
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 5: and so slow, and not all of it was Hey,

583
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 5: pokin Naku has hurt. I mean Matthew Stafford was not

584
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 5: good off the jump either. So maybe here it's the

585
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 5: all right, all the elder statesmen, we need to start

586
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 5: moving forward here.

587
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 3: I think the other part of that is they they

588
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 3: are doing that now because of how well they drafted

589
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 3: and how well that young defensive line was able to

590
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 3: grow without Aaron Donald By. Yeah, I don't think that

591
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 3: they realized that they would be able to stay contenders

592
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 3: the way that they are and winning the division. But

593
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 3: I mean Jared Verse, who honestly was thought to be

594
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 3: it was such a funky.

595
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 4: Draft last year.

596
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 3: And when you go back and you look at if

597
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 3: you looked at mock drafts in January and February of

598
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 3: last year, Jared Verse is up there in the top ten,

599
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 3: top five picks. I know we're talking about quarterbacks, but

600
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 3: he was in that conversation. And we have a draft

601
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 3: where the first fifteen picks of players are offensive players,

602
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 3: So you don't have a defensive player taken until the

603
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 3: Colts take lots of from UCLA, and then the Seahawks

604
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 3: took Byron Murphy and the Rams get Jared Vers a

605
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 3: couple of picks later. But we look at those guys

606
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 3: as mid first round picks or later around first round picks.

607
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 3: But there were draft people who were really high on

608
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 3: Jared Verse throughout the draft process, and the Rams are

609
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 3: reaping the benefits of it. He is a beast and

610
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 3: they've hit some on some other things on the defensive line,

611
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 3: So I think that sped up the process as well.

612
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 3: Kin of likely also then aid it in the removal

613
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 3: of Cooper Cup from their future plans, but we shall see.

614
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 4: Miles Garrett, do you think he actually gets dealt?

615
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

616
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 4: You think so?

617
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 2: Oh.

618
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 5: I think in the end you'll have enough suitors to wear,

619
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 5: you know, much like the lamentations of it didn't look

620
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 5: good in the press releases that you didn't get enough

621
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 5: first round picks for Luka Dacic.

622
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: It's my tongue in cheek.

623
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 5: Is the I think you got plenty of teams that

624
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 5: will line up to give the Browns whatever.

625
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 4: You can you could right your almost right, you're wrong

626
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 4: of the Deshaun Watson deal by doing this trade. Yeah,

627
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 4: where we're hearing two first round picks minimal if there's

628
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 4: there's a team out there that's willing to give more,

629
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 4: and they might be, and I'm talking to you buffalo

630
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 4: like this may be this may be the room that.

631
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: You can get.

632
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely not, but that is that's the type of

633
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 3: move that that it could provide you.

634
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 4: You could speed it up. And honestly, if you're Miles

635
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 4: Garrett and you're looking at the Browns, I think you're

636
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 4: looking at He's looking at it like all of us are.

637
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 4: Even if you get things right, how good are you

638
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 4: going to be?

639
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

640
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 4: This year and then the next year and the next

641
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 4: year after that, like does he?

642
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:23,239
Speaker 3: He obviously will also want a new contract, which is

643
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 3: a part of this as well, when it becomes a

644
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 3: tangent in twenty twenty six. But do you want to

645
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 3: sit there and beat up your body for that over

646
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 3: the next two years? And I know any player on

647
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 3: the Browns could say that right now, but Miles Garrett

648
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 3: is different.

649
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 4: And it's just you wasted Joe Thomas's Hall of Fame

650
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 4: career in terms of not making the playoffs and not

651
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 4: catching in on that. Do you want to do it

652
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 4: again with Miles Garrett with just you know, an appearance

653
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 4: here and an appearance there and that's it. Yeah, I would.

654
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 3: I would, Seriously, I don't know if you'll get dealt Mike,

655
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 3: You're more into it than I am.

656
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 4: But I can see why the Browns sho do it.

657
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I look at it, and certainly Forgarrett

658
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 5: that now it becomes the you know, are you gonna,

659
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 5: you know, hold your breath and try to force the issue.

660
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 5: If I'm Stefanski, I'm in, you know, to Haslam and

661
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 5: everybody else on my hands and knees, like, look what

662
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 5: you saddled with me with these last couple of years

663
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 5: I got. I cobbled a team together to get to

664
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 5: the playoffs despite having both hands tied behind my back

665
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 5: and having to type with my nose okay like that

666
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 5: and communicating my blinking with you because you guys gave

667
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 5: me this Deshaun Watson albatross that I had to work with.

668
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 5: And then when we did have people in the room

669
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 5: that could work that, we couldn't play them for fearing

670
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 5: and we had to get rid of them Joe Flacco

671
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 5: for fear of hurting his feeling. How many people did

672
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 5: you talk to NFL guys that brought that up. I

673
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,959
Speaker 5: know I certainly had my share, Dan over the last

674
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 5: eighteen months of oh yeah they could, there's no way

675
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 5: they could bring them back because Deshaun Watson was two

676
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 5: cents to what was.

677
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 2: Going on around him.

678
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 5: Right, So if I'm Miles Garrett, I'm like, I'm in

679
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 5: this division that I'm probably probably not going to win

680
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 5: again to a large degree. I mean the AFC, and look,

681
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 5: you can go to another AFC team, but just the

682
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 5: idea of climbing out of the AFC North again, come on,

683
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 5: it's yeah, foolhardy to think you're.

684
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 2: Going to get there.

685
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,479
Speaker 5: So, yeah, would I would do everything and throw every

686
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 5: huff and puffing five year old tantrum that I needed

687
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 5: to to get out of there.

688
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good point if you're Miles Garrett and

689
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 3: you're the number one overall pick of that team and

690
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 3: you see your franchise bend over backwards to accommodate Deshaun

691
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 3: Watson and to bring him in, and then when he

692
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 3: doesn't pan out, to go the extra step of trying

693
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 3: to make it good for him.

694
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 4: When this is your team, this is Miles Garrett's team,

695
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 4: Let's be real. I mean, there are very few teams

696
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 4: that have players that aren't quarterbacks that it's their team,

697
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 4: but I think Cleveland would be one of them. I'd

698
00:34:58,719 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 4: be frustrated too.

699
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 3: And I know there's talking Cleveland and saus and Cleveland

700
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 3: stuff of Miles has always been about Miles.

701
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 4: That may be true.

702
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 3: The Mason Rudolph scenario is not a bright spot in

703
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 3: his career either. However, you're talking about dominant defensive player,

704
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 3: reigning defensive player of the Year that now wants out,

705
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 3: who's eight years in already. And I know Adam Schefter

706
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 3: put out a Khalil mac tweet on the trade for that,

707
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 3: and I know, sorry Mike Schefter brought it up. At

708
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 3: the point is is what do you got to lose

709
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 3: if you're Cleveland, if you keep Miles Garrett around, are

710
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 3: you gonna win twelve games next next year?

711
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 4: Probably not set yourself up better for it.

712
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it just comes down to the are

713
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 5: you just going to keep him for spite? M hmm, Okay,

714
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 5: you drafted well years ago when he came to town.

715
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 5: He's given you a lot of double digit sack years.

716
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 5: What's it gotten you? A lot of great moments? You

717
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 5: mentioned the Mason Rudolph spot. It's kind of like everybody

718
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 5: you know doing all the pointing and laughing at the

719
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 5: Giants this year. I like Saquon Barkley as much as anybody.

720
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 5: What are you winning another game.

721
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 2: And a half?

722
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 4: Yeah?

723
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 5: Is he really pushing you to the promised land? Beyond

724
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 5: that offensive line with that quarterback? I like Moliku neighbors,

725
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 5: don't get me wrong, but like the two of them.

726
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 5: That's a tag team that's gonna run rough shot over everybody. Sorry,

727
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 5: you had no personnel, so it's it's nice. And Tracy

728
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 5: had himself a nice year. We talked about him a

729
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 5: lot for fantasy purposes, but it's the same thing here.

730
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 5: Now you look at Miles Garrett, it's like, it's great,

731
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 5: you'd love for a guy to be your guy. I

732
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 5: think we all have those guys for our respective teams.

733
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 5: But at some point reality punches you in the face.

734
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 5: It's like, we're not winning with him. So if we

735
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 5: can start the next process for Stefanski or whatever coaching

736
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 5: staff supplants him and move the organization down, I don't

737
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 5: think you hamstring yourself out of spite, no matter how

738
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 5: blistering you may have thought. His statement was of my

739
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 5: idea wasn't going from.

740
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 2: Well.

741
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 3: And we sometimes think that these deals, in these decisions

742
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 3: need to be made, or will need to be made

743
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 3: in two and a half months when the draft comes

744
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 3: up in late April, but realistically they need to be

745
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 3: made within the next five weeks.

746
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 6: But about starting a year Dan about the draft though,

747
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 6: That's something else that's part of this too, is the

748
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 6: fact that the draft itself is actually pretty deep at

749
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 6: edge this year. Yeah, Like, you're obviously not going to

750
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 6: find a guy on Miles Garrett's caliber. That's a lot

751
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 6: to ask, but they have the second overall pick he

752
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 6: got Abdua Carter from Penn State. Like, there's some real

753
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 6: names in this draft class, even you know, beyond the

754
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 6: first round. And then also, if you trade Garrett, you're

755
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 6: probably going to be getting multiple first in return, so

756
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 6: you know, if you want to go quarterback, you want

757
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 6: to go edge as well, you have that option.

758
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 3: So yeah, you'd be better be getting I'd say, I

759
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 3: know two was laid out there with the Mac deal,

760
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 3: but I almost think three, considering on how on top

761
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 3: of his game he is. I don't know, maybe maybe

762
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 3: a lot to ask that in that scenario, but it's

763
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 3: especially if there's competition for him. He's gonna be thirty

764
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 3: in December, so he's just turned twenty nine, so I

765
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 3: mean you're talking you hope for the next five years

766
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 3: he can continue to be the dominant four years and

767
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 3: if your playoff window is right now. Sorry, Ian, everybody's

768
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 3: pointing to Buffalo as and we talked on this pod,

769
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 3: like I think Buffalo needs to We don't need to

770
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 3: have Josh Allen get another weapon.

771
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 4: Josh Allen needs a better defense. Yes, that's what he needs,

772
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 4: and that's the way to do it. Just ask Patrick Mahomes.

773
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 4: That's what Buffalo needs to do. We'll see if they

774
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 4: do it.

775
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 3: I also characterize Garrett's trade request today in the Super

776
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 3: Bowl week storyline. Remember Kyler Murray in the LA Super

777
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 3: Bowl three years ago, like that pops up. I think

778
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 3: this has more juice to it, but still it's kind

779
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 3: of a you know, I'll believe it when I see it.

780
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 3: But I think that there are a lot of reasons

781
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 3: why the Browns should do the move. It's just a

782
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 3: question of whether they will or not. All right, let's

783
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 3: get to the prop bets. Mike, you sent over some

784
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 3: circle ones. I have some other ones as well on here. Mike,

785
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 3: you want to just toggle back and forth a couple

786
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 3: of weeks and we'll throw out there.

787
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 4: We'll just throw out about seven or eight of them.

788
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 3: You'll get four, I'll get four, and we'll make our

789
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 3: predictions and see how well we hit on super Bowl

790
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 3: fifty nine.

791
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

792
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 5: I think a lot of these on the ones of

793
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 5: a mine off circa. I mean, they're all serious. It's

794
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 5: like all real stuff. Man, where's the comedy.

795
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 3: I know the comedy that I see on one of

796
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 3: mine is Isaiah Pacheco over under twenty one and a

797
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 3: half yards, and I know that he hasn't been huge.

798
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 3: We're going to start out on that one. I am

799
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 3: going Pachecko over. There's no way this is going to

800
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 3: be an all Kareem Hunt show. I'm going Pachecko over

801
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 3: twenty one and a half.

802
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 2: Yard, twenty one and a half. That's so yes, Yeah,

803
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 2: I think I gotta go over on that.

804
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 5: But like as soon as you bring up Kareem Hunts

805
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 5: and I'm like, oh, his runner receiver, he could really bogart.

806
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 2: Most of the Yeah.

807
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 5: I can almost talk myself into it, but I'm not gonna.

808
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 5: I'm gonna stay over with you.

809
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 4: Ian. You like over under Isaiah Pacheco twenty one and

810
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 4: a half yards.

811
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 6: I like the over as well. I like the over

812
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 6: all right, okays hard, Yeah, big game, Yeah, extra hard.

813
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 6: I like it.

814
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 4: Sure, Mike, you got one ready.

815
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 2: It's one of your favorite words in all of football. Dan.

816
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 5: Well, the final score be a score of Gami plus

817
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 5: twenty five hundred. I'm gonna I just went for broke

818
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 5: right off the Yeah.

819
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 3: Let's let's do it. I'm gonna. I'm gonna say no.

820
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 3: And the reason being was Commander's Eagles was what fifty

821
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 3: five thirty two or whatever it was, and that wasn't

822
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 3: even score a goami.

823
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 4: So yeah, so I gotta go. I know there's a

824
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 4: lot of money.

825
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 3: You could be a very very rich man if you're

826
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 3: or a woman if you're betting on a being score

827
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 3: a goami.

828
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 4: But don't see it happening, Mike.

829
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 5: I don't either. But at plus twenty five hundred, I

830
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 5: have fun with it. Yeah, I mean, look, I need

831
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 5: to go and find a sheet where I can find

832
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 5: some printouts in the twenties of what's not been haad

833
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 5: just yet. But man, this that that's a fun one.

834
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 4: Ian.

835
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, you guys are zigging. I'm gonna zag and say

836
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 6: it will be a score all right?

837
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 4: There you go cash in.

838
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 2: Twenty five to one. Maybe that's good.

839
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 4: It's actually the smart one. How about this one? Total

840
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 4: fourth down conversions over under is two and a half.

841
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 2: I'll take the over.

842
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 6: I like the over two.

843
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 3: I do too, and it makes me feel like Vegas

844
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 3: knows something right.

845
00:41:55,640 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 5: Maybe behind the scenes outlawed the two push the motherly.

846
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 4: I agree with. Yeah, so I think the the over

847
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 4: on that.

848
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 5: Oh that's a good one though. I kind of dig that.

849
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 5: Yeah right, let me seem trying to find a good

850
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 5: one off of my shoes.

851
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 3: Yours are courtesy of Circa. My prop bets courtesy of

852
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 3: bet Online.

853
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 5: Mentioned him before. DeAndre Hopkins receptions one and a half.

854
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:31,479
Speaker 4: Over? Yes, two? Maybe one on a fourth down?

855
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 2: How about that?

856
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, receiving yards thirteen and a half for him as well.

857
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 3: I have to go over. If I'm giving him two catches,

858
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 3: I know it could be two for nine, but move

859
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 3: those chains.

860
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,959
Speaker 4: Yes, we'll hit the I'll take the over.

861
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 6: I feel like I can see him having a touchdown,

862
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 6: but not a huge box score game complete vibes prediction there.

863
00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 4: But all right, all right, Mike, would you like on

864
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 4: that one? Yes?

865
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to take I'm going to take the

866
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 5: under that he's going to get a lot of love

867
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 5: and then he's going to get shut out.

868
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, how about this Jersey number for first

869
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 3: TD score over under fifteen and a half. So the

870
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 3: Jersey number is got to be under fifteen.

871
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 5: Now let's think about fifteen principles. I'm gonna take the over.

872
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 4: I'm going to take the under on this.

873
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 6: If Mahomes scores it, it doesn't hit right.

874
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 4: It is it is fifteen and a half. I should

875
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 4: say it's if.

876
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 3: It's if my home scores, it's the under fifteen and

877
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 3: a half is the Jersey number.

878
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 6: Jalen Hurts is under over, Travis Kelsey's.

879
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,439
Speaker 4: Over, DeVante Smith is under, a J Brown is under.

880
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 6: This is a good question or a good prompt.

881
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 3: So this is the first TD score or just yes,

882
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 3: Jersey number of the first TV score?

883
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 5: What odds are they given on that one? Because I

884
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,919
Speaker 5: have it on my sheet too at twenty five and a.

885
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 3: Half, I don't have any odds. It just says first

886
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 3: TV score. Yeah, so I guess minus one ten?

887
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, this one's minus one twenty five for twenty

888
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 5: five and a half. Okay, just giving you an alternate

889
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 5: line there, But like you start thinking about all of

890
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 5: the different guys.

891
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 4: Right, well, also think about this Mike, who's between sixteen

892
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 4: and twenty five that can score? You think Trent McDuffie's

893
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 4: gonna pick off a pass and run it back.

894
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 6: You know, No, it's just because you said that that's

895
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 6: gonna be the first score.

896
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 5: What did Mike Bett in Vegas mcduffy to score the

897
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 5: first touchdown?

898
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: He's not retired.

899
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 3: But that's between the fifteen and a half that I

900
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 3: have on my line, which I again assume is minus

901
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 3: one ten to the what you have on your line

902
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 3: of twenty five and a half, which is Saquon Barkley

903
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 3: and up right, this is Mahomes and below. Oh, yours

904
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 3: is Saquon Barkley and up and it's who's wearing jersey

905
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 3: numbers between sixteen and twenty five on both of these

906
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 3: teams that could score.

907
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll find.

908
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 2: Out such great theater.

909
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, all right, we got another one.

910
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 2: Let's see, Let's do two more. Let's do a couple

911
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 2: more of these.

912
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 5: Uh ooh, how about this one?

913
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 2: Longest completion Mahomes thirty three and a half.

914
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 4: Under.

915
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say under two take the over.

916
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 2: All, Right, I'm gonna go find some Hollywood brown magic.

917
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 6: It just takes one. Yeah, but I don't know that

918
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 6: that's a long.

919
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 5: It could be a Travis Kelcey down the middle. If

920
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 5: the Red Sea parts like it does sometimes.

921
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 6: Well, actually it does it specify? Is it air yards

922
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 6: or it doesn't have to be a yards? Interesting because

923
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 6: because yak counts too, I actually will take over.

924
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 4: Change it up.

925
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I felt like I was being the different one

926
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 3: going the under.

927
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: I like that.

928
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, That's that's how I felt. All Right, I got

929
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 3: one more for you. Will any player break the Super

930
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 3: Bowl scoring record?

931
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 4: This does have odds plus sixteen hundred.

932
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 3: James White and Jalen Hurts have both scored twenty points

933
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 3: in their Super Bowls.

934
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 4: Three touchdowns, two point conversion.

935
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say no.

936
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say yes because of the toush push Jalen Hurts,

937
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 6: He's uh, he's playing in this game again.

938
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm.

939
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 4: Gonna go yes.

940
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 3: And because I thought it was gonna be higher scoring,

941
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, Saquon does it?

942
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 2: Okay?

943
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 5: Well, let me give you a Saquon specific one show. Okay,

944
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty or more rushing yards plus three

945
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 5: hundred last Yeah, I'm under yeah, seventy plus rushing yards

946
00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 5: minus four seventy five.

947
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 4: Yeah over, Yeah, I'm not a real gambling man being

948
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 4: safe with my money.

949
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 5: About Let's see what else Kenneth Gainwell for a score.

950
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 3: If I didn't, if I didn't pick Saquon to have

951
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 3: the game that he's going that I think that he

952
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 3: could have, then I mean, then I'd have to put

953
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 3: Gainwell in because you know, there's gonna be somebody who

954
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 3: doesn't who doesn't score right, or that scores that's surprising.

955
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 2: I'm with you. How about how about we do the

956
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 2: last one MVPs.

957
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 4: I'm going Saquon. I like the Eagles to win, so

958
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 4: I'm going.

959
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 2: Saquon plus two seventy five.

960
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 4: Okay, I've gotten the Chiefs.

961
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 5: So and Ian you had the Chiefs? So where which

962
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 5: way are you going here?

963
00:47:59,040 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 2: Yeah?

964
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go off on a huge limbit. Say Patrick

965
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 6: Mahomes wins Super Bowl MVP.

966
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 5: I'd love to watch somebody walk away with it. That

967
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 5: isn't It would be great, But I think I kind

968
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 5: of bury myself into that pile, right, I mean, Kareem

969
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 5: hunted sixty to one. Anybody cross Jones? I could see

970
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 5: maybe he's ninety one. Carl loftis at one hundred and

971
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 5: fifty to one.

972
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 4: Hey, roll it, you're on this Purdue bad way.

973
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 5: Let's go go Boilers. Yeah, try McDuffie four hundred to one.

974
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 6: Come on, now, if he got two pick six's, would

975
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 6: that trump a solid game from Mahomes.

976
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 3: That's a better question than you would have thought because

977
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 3: of how much bias he gets for these awards. Right,

978
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 3: but I'll tell you what I think that they would

979
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 3: have to realize. It's I mean, Jacoby Jones in the

980
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 3: last time the Super Bowl was in New Orleans, Alright,

981
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 3: p to Jacobe Jones. But Joe Flacco ends up winning

982
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 3: that when he had the kickoff return and a huge touchdown.

983
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Jacoba Jones should have been the guy.

984
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, but hopefully the voters would understand and get if

985
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 4: Trent McDuffie does such would be the MVP.

986
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 2: Well, maybe they'll abstain and leave e Troe off the ballot.

987
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 3: Oh, all right, final scores predictions. We have our Super

988
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 3: Bowl MVPs. All, I mean, we just set our Super

989
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 3: Bowl MVPs, right, so we can do.

990
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: Our predictions all locked and loaded.

991
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 3: You Yes, Okay, I got the Eagles. As I said,

992
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 3: I don't think it's again. I think it's going to

993
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 3: hit the over. I'm going to go thirty three twenty

994
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 3: seven Philadelphia, and.

995
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 6: I got Chiefs twenty one seventeen.

996
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 2: I'll say, nicely done. Really coming to the under.

997
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 5: I got the Chiefs in the over thirty to twenty eight.

998
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 4: All right, nice four point game there? Would that be

999
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 4: scoring Gami.

1000
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 2: That's a good question. I don't know.

1001
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 3: Well, i'll tell you what We'll find out before we

1002
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 3: wrap this up, and so it better be quick as

1003
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 3: we are wrapping this up because it's our.

1004
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 4: Final show before Super Bowl fifty nine.

1005
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 3: As I'm looking at thirty two, Mike, thirty two thirty, Yes,

1006
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 3: it would be. It would not be score Gami. We

1007
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 3: have had this seven times. In fact, the Seahawks and

1008
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 3: Browns most recently played to a thirty two to twenty

1009
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 3: eight game on October thirteenth of twenty nineteen.

1010
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 5: Now you know what's funny is I almost said thirty

1011
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 5: two thirty, which may have never happened.

1012
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 4: Thirty two to thirty happened three times Mike recently.

1013
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what that was?

1014
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 3: Hail Murray, Cards beat the Bills, Yes, finish thirty two

1015
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 3: to thirty in that one. All right, Well, guys, we'll

1016
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 3: talk on the other side. I'll be in New Orleans.

1017
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:08,439
Speaker 3: I'll be at the game.

1018
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 4: I'll tell you how the atmosphere was, and hopefully we

1019
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 4: have a good game that we can watch and just enjoy.

1020
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 4: Super Bowl fifty nine should be a dandy time.

1021
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 2: It'll be brilliant. Be good, safe travels.

1022
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 3: Glad that your voice is back, Mike Ian stellar job

1023
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 3: as always. I'm Dan Beyer, He's Mike Carmen. That's Ian Roddy.

1024
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 3: Enjoy the Super Bowl everyone. We'll talk to you afterwards

1025
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 3: here and I want your flex