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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast. It's another show with Levi

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Speaker 1: from a Chris Wesley podcast studio. It's Around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I am Dan Hansis got heroes here, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you are in the iconic Levi jacket.

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Speaker 2: You're lucky that I, you know, complied from a wardrobe

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Speaker 2: straight and I had been here, you know, with more time,

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Speaker 2: I was going to switch into a button des What.

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Speaker 1: A coincidence it is that you're wearing the jacket when

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Speaker 1: that drop hits. Yeah, it's a it's a day that

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Speaker 1: ends and why we we've left out and also with

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Speaker 1: us listen, it's been a while since he's been on

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Speaker 1: at n UH and we're happy to have him. If

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Speaker 1: if rich Eisen is the face, then this man is

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Speaker 1: the conscience of NFL media. You know who it is, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Steve wy wy YoY man. I think it's like wizdorms.

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Speaker 1: O man, you guys man, this is awesome. I have

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Speaker 1: to say, We've had so many great songs submitted by

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Speaker 1: our listeners through the years, but I don't know if

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Speaker 1: there's anything better than the Steve Weisch.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I am just so like it sounds very

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Speaker 3: it sounds really professional. We have to get to to

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Speaker 3: play this song. The Unteason hard knockcause he's a big

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Speaker 3: reggae fan there, so here.

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Speaker 2: Was great on the Manning cast, he was great some guitar.

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Speaker 1: I would roll around town listening to this on loop.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, nothing like Tears of Heaven to really bring the

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Speaker 4: party going.

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Speaker 1: Evan Hornsby with that well done banger. Yeah, it's very good.

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Speaker 1: All right, we got Steve here. I love It's for

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Speaker 1: having me. I'm excited, big show. A little housekeeping before

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Speaker 1: we get going. We got so much you get to

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do uh, open up the mail bag. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna check in on that TNF banger. What's the over

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Speaker 1: under at now? Is in the twenties? I will check.

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Speaker 1: I believe it. They kept it at thirty. It keeps sinking. Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 1: New England. We're gonna play. Oh it's down to thirty.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. We're gonna get some news, but just

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Speaker 1: so little palace intrigue for around the NFL. Today Steve

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Speaker 1: was picture day for around the NFL. I love it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and Greg and I were here, Mark wasn't and you

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Speaker 1: you told us you had a perfectly good reason not

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Speaker 1: to be here. Yeah, so do we We're good with that,

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Speaker 1: Gregor are we cool in house with Mark?

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Speaker 4: I mean, we have to be right, we have to

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Speaker 4: be We were here. We took the pictures.

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Speaker 1: And we and it was supposed to be headshots and

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Speaker 1: then group photos, which I did not know that that

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Speaker 1: second part, but I couldn't. It was right there in

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Speaker 1: the email. It was all very clear. But we we

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Speaker 1: got you. So we asked, uh, what was her name? Maddie, Maddie,

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Speaker 1: Maddie who did an awesome job. We did this, We

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Speaker 1: got it. We got one of the shots. Check it

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Speaker 1: out on YouTube. We made sure to kind of leave

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Speaker 1: a spot for Mark, and then I went ahead, thank you,

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Speaker 1: and I took care of this and did a little

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Speaker 1: photoshop to get you. And I know Camp Happiness is

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Speaker 1: your favorite era. So here's the other photo. There we go, Yeah, so.

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Speaker 4: This will be the photo and yeah, we'll send it out.

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Speaker 1: You don't know you're coming. You're good. We got you,

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Speaker 1: all right, cool, we.

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Speaker 2: Got your slightly ominous that the first group shot in

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Speaker 2: about a decade doesn't include me. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: that means for the future, but I will. I took

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Speaker 2: a child to the dentist today, so I hope that

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Speaker 2: it works as a.

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Speaker 1: We got your back. All right, we're good, We're good.

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Speaker 1: That was from high school.

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Speaker 3: That picture, by the way, that was not from summer camps.

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Speaker 1: Not from camp happiness.

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Speaker 3: No, all right, I'll get back to a ridiculous field

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Speaker 4: You do look like you could you know, use some

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Speaker 4: lotion or some sunscreen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no danger your sunburn back. Then all right, Steve,

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Speaker 1: you can photoshop.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, I mean on the promo, on the on the

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Speaker 3: So like Andrew Ciciliana and I are at the same height,

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Speaker 1: You'll be fine. Say they've got the skills. I was saying,

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Speaker 1: you have a Derwin James interview. So we can't we

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Speaker 1: all right, Yeah, yeah, you can wait. Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Let's get We got so much to get to. Let's

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Speaker 1: start though with some news. You d said the record

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Speaker 1: this year over twenty two miles an hour, still as

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Speaker 1: fast as ever. It is fifty in the league, twenty

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Speaker 1: two six, Hey, twenty three mile rookie of I probably

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Speaker 1: won't never hit again. That is Tyreek Hill from the

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Speaker 1: Hard Knocks in season which amazing Dolphins, which is spectacular.

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Speaker 1: I had not checked it out, Lata. He's great and

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Speaker 1: as I've said many times in the show, Next Gen,

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Speaker 1: Big next Gen doesn't want people to know that everyone

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Speaker 1: goes twenty one miles per hour. But we're starting to

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Speaker 1: see we're starting to see some cracks and movement there.

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Speaker 1: Because DK on Thursday Night on that seventy five yard touchdown,

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Speaker 1: to move away from twenty one miles per hour. That's good.

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Speaker 1: This is a big Dan' spin on this beat. I

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Speaker 1: could tell yeah, he's hung up on this. Yeah, what

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Speaker 1: about you, Steve, You ever have like a pick six

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Speaker 1: or anything in college or in the pros and you

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Speaker 1: were able to get the pros? Come on, what are

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Speaker 1: we talking about here? You never know? Did you ever

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Speaker 3: Uh no, because back when I was playing, everything was

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Speaker 1: There was no such thing as next gen sports.

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Speaker 3: So maybe you know, if if a shadow move it

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Speaker 3: I was on the Sophocles timescale. We were definitely a

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Speaker 3: you have a pick six though? In any time in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty cool in front of all your classmates,

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Speaker 2: they're watching you.

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Speaker 3: I've had some big quarterback about a sixty five yard

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Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah, Oh no, I've got I've got. If

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Speaker 1: they gave Jake Browning a full segment about his high

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I said ninety one touchdowns in

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Speaker 3: Know I had ninety one touchdowns in a season. I

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Speaker 3: probably video of Jake Browning, right, mine was like on tape.

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Speaker 1: That has warped. And Steve is one hundred and fourteen

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Speaker 1: years old. Based on the development, Yes, all right, let's

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Speaker 1: get to it. We'll start with Trevor Lawrence, the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: it looked bad when it happened, but here is the

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Speaker 1: good news. The injury is not one that ends a season.

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Speaker 1: And on top of that, there's a report from Jeff

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Speaker 1: Howe of the Athletic that he is going to quote

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Speaker 1: rehab around the clock this week to give himself a

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Speaker 1: chance to play through his high ankle sprain. Per sources,

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Speaker 3: So starting with Trevor, obviously it's just a right high

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Speaker 3: ankle sprain. Everything's stable, everything looks good, and we'll see

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Speaker 4: One of those injuries that you just don't know how

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Speaker 4: serious it's going to because there's different high ankle sprains.

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Speaker 4: Canny Pickett required the surgery. Trevor Lawrence isn't getting that.

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Speaker 4: I even think of Ryan Tanneil. He's had multiple high

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Speaker 4: you know, two three weeks. This week seems like a stretch.

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Speaker 4: But they do have a Ravens Sunday Night game in

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Speaker 4: week fifteen, so maybe he's pointing towards only missing one game.

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Speaker 1: It's still just the way that they were talking today is.

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Speaker 4: Definitely not gonna practice clan that would be that would

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Speaker 2: Sin at eight and four, that is a nasty two

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Speaker 2: but without if you have CJ. Betherdon there who didn't

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is very tough to prepare for.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, they're playing Cleveland, which is it's going

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Speaker 1: I mean, it gives them an opportunity.

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Speaker 3: This is one where you say, Okay, we're playing a

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Speaker 3: you want to win the division, you win these type

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I would say they probably felt the same way

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Speaker 3: But well, yeah, you think, I mean, Bronnie was pretty

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Speaker 1: It was in other news Vikings quarterback Josh Dobbs will

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Speaker 1: start on Sunday against the Raiders. This speaking of palace intrigue,

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Speaker 1: I think it kind of went on everyone's attendant a

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Speaker 1: to evaluate everything. Who makes Justin Jefferson the most dynamic

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Speaker 1: here is Kevin O'Connell. After making the decisions to stick

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Speaker 5: I want to address the quarterback position. We will be

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Speaker 5: starting Josh Dobbs in the football game on Sunday. Feel

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Speaker 5: great about kind of our bye week process of really,

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Speaker 5: you know, two layers to it, evaluating kind of where

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Speaker 5: Josh has been as far as immediately providing a spark

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Speaker 5: and helping us win to football games, and then you know,

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Speaker 5: transitioning to some tough, you know, tough outcomes where there's

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Speaker 5: all kinds of things that we could we could do better,

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Speaker 5: we could coach better, Josh's continued comfort in our offense

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Speaker 5: and how we play, but also our offense and our

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Speaker 1: He added that Nick Mullins, the backup, will be ready

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Speaker 1: to go. There's also a rookie in the mixed, Jaron Hall.

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Speaker 1: Greg I liked your theory. This is the team around

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Speaker 1: important decision being made by the head coach. I liked

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Speaker 1: your theory. Throw it out there. Now, this isn't based

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to around the NFL, Steven.

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Speaker 1: Wise, there we go, Steve, wish my wife, my mother.

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Speaker 4: Like when they're mad at you, guys will say Steven

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Speaker 1: Bring frags back in here? All right? So with Steve,

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Speaker 1: Hit it Robbie Why from Inglewood, California.

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Speaker 7: It's time for everybody's fave game show, What More Likely?

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Speaker 1: Right? Yes? What's more Likely? A game where we present

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Speaker 3: Steve, you are a guest, so I defer to you

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Speaker 3: to get us going. Oh, I got no, this is

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Speaker 3: this is a twenty twenty four off season. More likely, okay, right?

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Speaker 3: More likely the Jets pass on a quarterback with their

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Speaker 1: Or draft what more likely. Oh, that's a tough one.

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Speaker 1: I thought. I thought on our last show that Sala

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Speaker 4: or wait, it's more likely Salar Douglas are making the

435
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Speaker 4: pick or not.

436
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Speaker 1: Making the decision whether to use the pick. Okay, I

437
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Speaker 1: guess I'm gonna go quarterback. Then. I don't think either

438
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 1: is particularly likely.

439
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Speaker 4: I think either Salah or Douglas or both will be

440
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Speaker 4: gone if I have to guess. But I actually think

441
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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers being there. I guess it depends. I'm thinking

442
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 4: first round. If Aaron Rodgers is there, he's not going anywhere.

443
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 4: They're all in. They're still all in. He answered the

444
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 4: question about the coaches a little more noncommittal to Pat

445
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 4: McAfee this week then I maybe would have expected.

446
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 1: It wasn't.

447
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 4: It wasn't anything noteworthy, but it wasn't like a full

448
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 4: throated I'm the boss, they better be here. It was

449
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,119
Speaker 4: kind of like, that's out of my hands, and to me,

450
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 4: he's there, So you're not taking a first round quarterback.

451
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Speaker 1: Maybe you take a developmental guy later.

452
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Speaker 2: I tend to think the ladder that Slah and Douglas

453
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Speaker 2: will be making the decision. The reason I think they'd

454
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Speaker 2: stick around. They look like a disaster. To all of

455
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Speaker 2: us on the outside. I don't know what what the

456
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 2: owner thinks on the inside. There's been so much change there.

457
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 2: It's like the flying the ointment is with Aaron Rodgers

458
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 2: attached on, Nathaniel Hackett attached to big chunks of the

459
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Speaker 2: like certain wide receivers that are there. It's like, if

460
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Speaker 2: you want to keep Aaron Rodgers happy over the offseason,

461
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Speaker 2: which was a chore for the Packers, do you want

462
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 2: to it's it looks bad right now.

463
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Speaker 1: But if a.

464
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Speaker 2: Whole new org comes in and blows a lot up

465
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Speaker 2: and says we'll build around erst Rodgers, but forgett Nathaniel Hackett,

466
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Speaker 2: forget all his buddies.

467
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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's what you do with one

468
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Speaker 1: more year of Rodgers.

469
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Speaker 2: Do you try to say Sala's defense has been good,

470
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Speaker 2: the thing he was brought in to do, he's done

471
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 2: a pretty good job with do you give it one

472
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Speaker 2: more try?

473
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Speaker 1: Well, he's brought in to be the head coach. That's

474
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Speaker 1: part of the problem, Like he's all right, he needs

475
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 1: to be more. They need to be more globally successful.

476
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Speaker 1: At this point after three years, I'll say it's more

477
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Speaker 1: likely all they have to do is like fall into

478
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Speaker 1: one or two wins, and I think that will give

479
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Speaker 1: Johnson enough to say, all right, just wipe this path,

480
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: wipe this whole thing. They lose out, I think everyone's gone.

481
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Speaker 1: Here's why I think Salo and Douglas are back.

482
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Speaker 3: Who's going to take that job knowing that you got

483
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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers for one year and you're not taking a

484
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Speaker 3: quarterback to build on?

485
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Speaker 1: Well, he could also spend it. You know, you got

486
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers in a very good defense. Ways to again,

487
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Speaker 1: who's going to take that job for one year? A

488
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: lot of job openings too. We'll get to that a

489
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Speaker 1: little bit later in the show. All right, here's another one.

490
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Speaker 1: What's more likely. The Kansas City Chiefs get the number

491
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Speaker 1: one seed in the AFC and they've gotten how many years.

492
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Speaker 3: In a row?

493
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Speaker 1: Now? Five? Five in a row. Patrick Mahomes has played

494
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Speaker 1: very few road games in his life. Zero postseason games.

495
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Speaker 1: I believe, what about the New England AFC title game?

496
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Speaker 1: I was in Kansas Yeah, I was in Kansas City. Wow.

497
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

498
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Speaker 1: Never played on the road of the playoffs. So the

499
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Speaker 1: Chiefs get the number one seed to keep that streak

500
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Speaker 1: intact for Mahomes or the struggling, struggling Kansas City offense

501
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Speaker 1: does not score more than thirty one points the rest

502
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Speaker 1: of this season.

503
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Speaker 2: What more likely thirty one points in a game versus total.

504
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 2: That would be a real problem.

505
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Speaker 1: That way, Okay, they would not hurt the playoffs. The

506
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Speaker 1: Patriots would challenge you on that one.

507
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Speaker 4: I'll jump in and say it's it's more likely they

508
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 4: don't score thirty one points just because they have the

509
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Speaker 4: Bills this week, and maybe I'm projecting too hard. I

510
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 4: think that's a tough game for them. I've been high

511
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Speaker 4: on the Bills making a stretch run that would get

512
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Speaker 4: them to five losses at that point. The Ravens in

513
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Speaker 4: the Dolphins, but I'm thinking, especially the Ravens are are

514
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Speaker 4: in pretty good shape. I think that I just haven't

515
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Speaker 4: seen a team. And I know they scored thirty one

516
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Speaker 4: against the Raiders. They did it against the Chargers, they

517
00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 4: did it against the Bears, so it's happened three times

518
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 4: a seas.

519
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: They have some pretty.

520
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 4: Easy matchups at the end of the season Raiders, Bengals, Chargers,

521
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 4: and they might be needing to play.

522
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Speaker 1: So those are pretty bad defenses.

523
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Speaker 4: It's close, but I'm gonna go more likely they don't

524
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Speaker 4: get the one seed.

525
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Speaker 1: Okay, hmm, that's tough, though.

526
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Speaker 2: I just believe that they're gonna wind up with the

527
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Speaker 2: one seed somehow. I look at the other games though

528
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Speaker 2: they've scored in the last five, like nine, seventeen, nineteen,

529
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Speaker 2: and twenty one. I don't see their offense like figuring

530
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Speaker 2: this out just because there's five more games like part

531
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Speaker 2: with the part of the year where it's like they

532
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Speaker 2: kind of do what they do well and what they

533
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Speaker 2: don't do well.

534
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Speaker 3: I don't know how you fix it with the personnel

535
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Speaker 3: not changing. Yeah, I mean I think they get to

536
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Speaker 3: thirty one. I think the AFC goes to Florida, either

537
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Speaker 3: Miami or Jacksonville. Whoa, yeah, I mean, look.

538
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Speaker 1: At the Dolphins schedule.

539
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Speaker 3: They should They should click off another three before things

540
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Speaker 3: get really nitty gritty, raven schedules are murderers row.

541
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Speaker 1: And so I think they get to thirty one.

542
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Speaker 3: I think they have a couple of big games, and

543
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Speaker 3: also checking the previous thirty one, I think there were

544
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Speaker 3: some defensive scores in there too. I think the question

545
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 3: was the Chiefs offense, but I still think the Chiefs

546
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Speaker 3: offense ends up getting a thirty one.

547
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Speaker 1: They will not get the number one.

548
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Speaker 4: Seed, although I am looking at the tie breakers, which

549
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 4: is a point in the Chiefs favor.

550
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Speaker 1: Yes, they always seem to find a way. Yeah, Nixon

551
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: one on the conference.

552
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Speaker 4: So they've had three losses and they beat Miami the

553
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 4: NFC North and.

554
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Speaker 1: They beat Miami, and they beating Jackson behead to head.

555
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 4: Right, and they have the headset wins. So I maybe

556
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Speaker 4: already would change my answer, but too late. Need an

557
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Speaker 4: official answer now. Now I'm going to go over to

558
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Speaker 4: thirty one points.

559
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Speaker 1: All right, Greg, you're up?

560
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Speaker 4: Okay, I will look at the MVP Award and say,

561
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Speaker 4: a non quarterback wins the MVP or the Bengals make

562
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 4: the playoffs?

563
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Speaker 1: What more likely?

564
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 2: I think it's more likely that we should cross check

565
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 2: these before the show because something similar will be coming up.

566
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Speaker 2: But I think it's more likely the Bengals. You have

567
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Speaker 2: to get the playoffs. Pivot now, I will not be pivoted.

568
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 2: Wrote this the thing on the fly, or you know, performers.

569
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 1: Let's see, let's see, well, Cincinnati six and six, Uh,

570
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: they are obviously in the mix from that standpoint tenth

571
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: right now, tenth right now? They win the tiebreaker over

572
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: Buffalo based on the head to head win percentage right now,

573
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: Denver's ahead of them, Houston's ahead of them, Indies ahead

574
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 1: of them, Cleveland's ahead of them. They're two and six.

575
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: They get to play a bunch of those teams.

576
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but again you're you're looking at this rationale versus Yeah,

577
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 3: what the other more likely scenario?

578
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: Right? So the other one? All these teams I'm mentioning,

579
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: don't they don't frighten me? And like how they gonna

580
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 1: hop scotch past them? I think this is more likely.

581
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: And I don't want to, you know, sniff too much

582
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: of the Jake Brown and glue right now, but that

583
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: was a fun watch and I'd like to see where

584
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: that goes. And uh yeah, Tyreek CMC. Probably those two guys,

585
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: those are the two guys. I just think a quarterback

586
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 1: is gonna take that, whether it's Brock or two or whomever.

587
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it's more likely Cincinnati finds away.

588
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, more likely the Bengals get and they're not going

589
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 3: to give the MVP to a non quarterback.

590
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 4: But do you keep people keep saying that as if

591
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 4: they are not the people that are deciding. So it's

592
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Speaker 4: not let's decide it we're the people, Rick, Why.

593
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: Do you think there's an offensive Player of the Year

594
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: to give it to the non quarterback?

595
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 4: I get it, but I keep hearing that. But it's

596
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 4: from the people that, like, essentially that decide it because

597
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 4: all these are like if we and by I mean

598
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 4: the media, like they kind of we kind of decide

599
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 4: on some level, it becomes consensus. If if people are

600
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 4: just stumping for it, then.

601
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: It because Bob Glaber wouldn't let us into their pro

602
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: football right.

603
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 4: Well, I get it, though, but I think it's the

604
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 4: people that have microphones, people on on shows as influential

605
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 4: as this one, and people as influential as you.

606
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, look, if Tyreek killgoes were two thousands,

607
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 3: like wow, that's never happened before, But he wouldn't got

608
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 3: two thousands without TUA.

609
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: So two is the m v P.

610
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 3: That's just how it's just it's just how it goes

611
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 3: because there are definitely people non quarterbacks. You should have

612
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 3: been MVPs before because some people were arguing, how can

613
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 3: you be an m VP if you're not.

614
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: The best player on your team? I think that's legit?

615
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: Well yeah, is it? Though? I mean, who are some

616
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: of the people who have won it.

617
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 3: I guarantee you right now is if Dak Prescott wins

618
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 3: m VP, is he the best player on their team

619
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Speaker 3: this year?

620
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Speaker 2: But that's I think he's the most Now you're throwing

621
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 2: the most valuable person on the Cowboys though, Dak Prescott.

622
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: That which every quarterback is Tyreek Hill this year.

623
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Speaker 2: That's the that's the argument that no like non quarterback

624
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 2: is going to win it.

625
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, then that's why. Then that's why the quarterback is

626
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 3: going to win the award. Even if the Bengals finished tenth.

627
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 4: It is a unique year that there aren't any totally

628
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 4: crazy quarterback seasons that you know are are which I'm

629
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 4: loving people away, but maybe it ends up being Dak.

630
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: I think.

631
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Speaker 4: I think that's more he's like fourth or fifth right now,

632
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 4: and McCaffrey's like seventh.

633
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: I think they're not waiting to get the people. By

634
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: the way, good one.

635
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 4: Yards per route run, which is kind of a weird step,

636
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 4: but yards per route run, yes, Like how many yards

637
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 4: do you get every time you just go out for

638
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 4: a route?

639
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: Right?

640
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 4: Tyreek Hill this year is about four and a quarter

641
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 4: yards per route run. That is more than a yard,

642
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 4: So that's like twenty five. It's more than a yard

643
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 4: better than any wide receiver in the last decade, and

644
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 4: basically more than a yard better than any wide receiver ever.

645
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: Holy I mean like in the last like.

646
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 4: Twenty years in the next closest people, by the way,

647
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 4: our Tyreek Hill like last year, like, but still like

648
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 4: he's this year of his season. Is that far ahead

649
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 4: in terms of like efficiency of him on the field

650
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 4: than like it does?

651
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: I feel like every time I'm watching Tyreek Hill catch

652
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 2: the ball, he's twenty five to thirty yards downfield frying

653
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 2: a secondary personnel.

654
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Speaker 1: One of the smartest personnel moves that any player made

655
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Speaker 1: in the last decade is Tyreek saying I'm not going

656
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Speaker 1: to the Jets. I want to go to the Dolphins,

657
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Speaker 1: And I don't know if Mike McDaniel is there yet.

658
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Speaker 1: It might have been maybe, but that couldn't have worked

659
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Speaker 1: out better for him in all ways.

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Speaker 2: All right, this will be a study in relativism because

661
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 2: there is a similar concept here.

662
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Speaker 1: But let's just go with it.

663
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 2: Jake Browning, what's more likely Jake Browning goes Brock Purdy

664
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Speaker 2: on our ass and in nothing short of a visual

665
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 2: feast on the gridiron, unfurls four wins down the stretch,

666
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 2: falling in a thriller to the Chiefs they don't get

667
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: that one, but executing backup on backup crime and wins

668
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: over Minshew's Colts, Josh D's Vikings, Trubisky Steelers, and Flacco's Browns.

669
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Speaker 2: It goes ten and seven and prance into the wild

670
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Speaker 2: card or before he is named Coach of the Year.

671
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Speaker 2: DeMeco Ryans and his star pupil C J. Stroud take

672
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 2: out the Ravens and Dolphins in January before facing the

673
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Speaker 2: Chiefs in the AFC title tilt TBD on that result,

674
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Speaker 2: but the world becomes attuned to the unusual skill set

675
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Speaker 2: of former PFF numbers bod turnplay calling wizard Bobby Slowick,

676
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Speaker 2: who arm in arm with Ryan's wins Assistant Coach of

677
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Speaker 2: the Year, Stroud no shocker, wins Offensive Rookie of the Year,

678
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Speaker 2: and the three immediately by a string of Houston by

679
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 2: four dealerships to funnel passive income into their checking accounts

680
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: for years to come. Stroud also becomes the new face

681
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Speaker 2: of a Dell computer ad campaign, attempting to tell the nation, hey, guys,

682
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Speaker 2: desktop computers are cool again. Clear off that oak desk

683
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Speaker 2: and plant one of our three foot by two foot

684
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Speaker 2: hulking technology centers where that quick book used to be.

685
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 2: In the ad, Stroud comes across as a capable and

686
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Speaker 2: easy to believe thespian.

687
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Speaker 1: M think you what I'm going to just because C J.

688
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Speaker 3: Shroud, you can't go to Dell because it's a Microsoft league.

689
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Speaker 1: That's a good point. Steve just knows these things. I mean,

690
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, Nail.

691
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Speaker 3: I mean, look, you know, you put a whole bunch

692
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Speaker 3: of of you know, addendums on there, which which nicks

693
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Speaker 3: out the latter scenario.

694
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Speaker 4: Right, if it was just Texans making the conference title game, uh,

695
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Speaker 4: compared to the Bengals winning four straight and then making

696
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Speaker 4: the playoffs at ten and seven.

697
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Speaker 1: I mean you could base it there if you they

698
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Speaker 1: were very well.

699
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Speaker 4: I mean I can't because you read a lot of

700
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Speaker 4: specific things that I I personally don't think.

701
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Speaker 1: I mean, even if the desk is.

702
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Speaker 4: Not oak, right, it all falls apart, Yeah, it all

703
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Speaker 4: falls problem.

704
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Speaker 2: I would say this though, like Coach of the Year,

705
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Speaker 2: Assistant Coach of the Year for what he's done with

706
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Speaker 2: Stroud and Bobby Slog and Stroud winning what he should win,

707
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Speaker 2: like if not MVP at some un some level, he

708
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Speaker 2: keeps going.

709
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Speaker 1: But offensive Rookie of the Year or player this does.

710
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Speaker 1: This is my principle that all segments with Cessler all

711
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Speaker 1: end up in the same exact place. There's like everything

712
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Speaker 1: kind of just funnels to the same spot every time

713
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Speaker 1: I I do, like, this is your new thing. You're

714
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: the Texans of your team. They're not gonna win the division,

715
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Speaker 1: They're gonna win a playoff game. Good luck to you.

716
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Speaker 1: I hope it works out.

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Speaker 4: I think that's more likely that at Bengals, Yeah, winning

718
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Speaker 4: four out of five, which which also could happen.

719
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Speaker 1: But the Texans, we take it two, sucked in by

720
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Speaker 1: the Browning thing. It was one game.

721
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Speaker 4: This is a weak year. I'm It's reminded me more

722
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Speaker 4: and more. I keep thinking of twenty eleven, which I

723
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Speaker 4: always think about that there were no good teams twenty eleven. Yeah,

724
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Speaker 4: by the time you got to the playoffs. And I

725
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Speaker 4: don't think we're there because the forty nine ers are great,

726
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 4: Cowboys are great. But in the AFC, we'll see how

727
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 4: it all shakes out. Like you could see a surprising

728
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 4: team in the AFC Championship game would not be crazy.

729
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Speaker 1: I see you trying to minimize that second Giants title.

730
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Speaker 1: I see what you do. I multiple shows in a row.

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Speaker 4: My point, it's not the Giants. When I said it

732
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Speaker 4: off game, I believe you've said it many times. I've

733
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Speaker 4: let it pass each time. No, now that you've said

734
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Speaker 4: it for the third time. That was one of the

735
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 4: worst Patriots teams of the Belichick era, and they were

736
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Speaker 4: like a driveway from winning the Super Bowl. It was

737
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Speaker 4: a huge disappointment. But that was a bad, bad Patriots team.

738
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Speaker 4: One of the worst defenses in the league, and they

739
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Speaker 4: were like a drive away from winning the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Some years just seven teams. Oh, there were no good teams.

741
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Speaker 1: So that must mean the team that won the Super

742
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: Bowl actually wasn't that good that year. He got that point,

743
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Speaker 1: you got him. He did go like nine and.

744
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Speaker 2: So it became better and better though as their pass

745
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: rush by the Super you know, but they were the

746
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Speaker 2: worst rushing team I think in the league too.

747
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Speaker 1: Steve, they were.

748
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Speaker 4: They were outscored that season. I think it's fair to

749
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Speaker 4: say they weren't like a dominant team.

750
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Speaker 1: I mean what they weren't. They weren't an all time

751
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: great team. But that was a great run it was

752
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: a fun Super Bowl. I enjoyed the playoffs a lot

753
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Speaker 1: of good games, well save for the twenty eleven podcast

754
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Speaker 1: with me thirty second.

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Speaker 4: I think in Dvoa defensively the Patriots that year.

756
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Speaker 1: Were we even using that metric back then?

757
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 4: I was, hey, now I think they go they go

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Speaker 4: back to time with the two day All right, Steve,

759
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Speaker 4: next one.

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Speaker 1: Well, this dovetails beautifully into my life.

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Speaker 3: More likely Bill Belichick retires because so few teams pursue him.

762
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Speaker 1: Oh wow in the offseason to be their head coach.

763
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Speaker 1: Whoa or.

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Speaker 3: Mac Jones remains in New England in twenty twenty four

765
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Speaker 3: as their quarterback?

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Speaker 1: Oh man, geez.

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Speaker 4: I mean see that was a good one. Does he

768
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Speaker 4: have to start Mac Jones?

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Speaker 1: Or easy? That the team? You know, there's no starter,

770
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Speaker 1: he's on the team. I go back Jones? Then, yeah,

771
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Speaker 1: I find it. I would find it almost impossible to think.

772
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: And sometimes you know, fans and analysts and people on

773
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: the outside aren't seeing what's really going on inside the

774
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: league that maybe there wouldn't be a big market for Belichick,

775
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: But the idea that he would almost be blackballed out

776
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Speaker 1: of the league.

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Speaker 3: No, no, I do blackball honest to god, do you think

778
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Speaker 3: there are gonna be teams lining up?

779
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Speaker 1: Do you think the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I think absolutely

780
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: there's an owner out there or six that would say, wait,

781
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: I would love to have Bill Belichick runing my team.

782
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 4: Explain this facial expression Steve is making on Oh.

783
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: No, there was. There's definitely an ulterior motive behind this

784
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 1: one one.

785
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 2: I think we're going to have as many openings from

786
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 2: the coaching angles we've had in a long time.

787
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Speaker 1: It just feels like we're heading there.

788
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 2: But I do wonder because like every like belichick biography

789
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 2: talks about how it was drilled into his mind and

790
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 2: heart and Cleveland, the ownership matters so so much so

791
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 2: like some of these teams that are out there that

792
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 2: might want him, he may not want and reverse. The

793
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 2: only thing is there is that Don Schulla record sitting

794
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Speaker 2: out there.

795
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Speaker 3: Yeah you know, and I know people say he wants

796
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 3: it like this, but does he want it that bad

797
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 3: to kind of go through? Because first off, if you've

798
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 3: seen how great he's developed quarterbacks in the past couple

799
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Speaker 3: of years, why would a team like Carolina want You're

800
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 3: stuck with Bryce Young, right, Okay, So then all right, Tampa,

801
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 3: they're gonna go through a cap cleansing. They're gonna have

802
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Speaker 3: to get a quar like, are you gonna bring up

803
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Speaker 3: maybe like that's.

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Speaker 1: One of the few teams.

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Speaker 3: But of all of these other things, I think the

806
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 3: fact that you said mark ownership is huge to him.

807
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 3: Everyone's gonna want the Chargers job. And that's where like

808
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 3: Ben jons or someone's gonna come coach this quarterback again.

809
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Speaker 1: That's what I think.

810
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,919
Speaker 3: Guys like Ben Johnson, believe it or not, dan Quinn,

811
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Speaker 3: there's gonna be some defensive coaches, guys like Dan Quinn.

812
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 3: They're gonna be on shorter list than Bill Belichick. So

813
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,479
Speaker 3: that's why I think this, to me is the bigger story,

814
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 3: not how the partying is going to happen, but how

815
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 3: many teams actually are gonna give him a call?

816
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Speaker 1: Do you want to come be our coach?

817
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 3: I think there'd be more teams saying come be our

818
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 3: director of football operations. And I could see a team

819
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Speaker 3: like the Giants doing that, especially since they take his

820
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 3: advice so much.

821
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Speaker 1: Some of their coach hirings and other hirings, come come

822
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Speaker 1: run our overall operation. That's his roots, right, instead of

823
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Speaker 1: being the head coach.

824
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Speaker 4: Well, and he has a longtime assistant is coaching the team. Yeah,

825
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 4: they always sort of forget about what the Belichick tree.

826
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Speaker 1: That Davo was there for like fourteen years. Yeah, and

827
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Speaker 1: you know, I think he Belichick and Parcells' careers are

828
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: so intertwined. That's what Parcels did at the end. He

829
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: was off the sideline and running from upstairs as well.

830
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: I could see that. But he else, he's such a

831
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Speaker 1: like Belichick's such a student and a lover of the sport,

832
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: like having the opportunity to have that number one. So

833
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: was Don Schull, Like how many people came after Don Schule? Right,

834
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: so is Tom Lantry.

835
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Speaker 4: Belichick will require an ownership, humbling himself a little bit,

836
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Speaker 4: which is not always easy for ownership to do, and

837
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Speaker 4: possibly clearing out the entire higher front office structure that exists.

838
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Speaker 4: And that's hard, that's a pain in the butt. Maybe

839
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Speaker 4: people don't want to do that just and I can't

840
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Speaker 4: quite imagine Belichick's like, oh yeah, I'll go work for

841
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 4: you know, Scott Fitter.

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00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: It's like that's that's not happening. No, no, no, no,

843
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: all right, here we go. What's more likely? I don't

844
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: know this one. We'll see, We'll see what you guys

845
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: say about this one. What's more likely the Green Bay Packers,

846
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: Mark's ears perked up steal the NFC North, where the

847
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills steal the AFC East? WHOA what more likely Bills? Why?

848
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Speaker 2: I just believe that we haven't seen what have we

849
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 2: just moved on because I don't. I think it's kind

850
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 2: of self explanatory the answers, like they've been doing this

851
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: for years, and like you'd need the Dolphins to kind

852
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 2: of collapse obviously.

853
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: Play week eighteen. They played eighteen. The Bills beat the

854
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: Dolphins forty eight twenty, so they would clinch the head

855
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: to head if they beat them a week eighteen.

856
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Speaker 4: So that's got a TI. They got to get to

857
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 4: within one.

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Speaker 1: They just have to tie him in the standings that

859
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 1: the free up is rich.

860
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Speaker 2: But I do feel like we're gonna get another version

861
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Speaker 2: of the Bills. So I've been buried down out of

862
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 2: this buy.

863
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Speaker 1: In the Detroit. They may be a little more vulnerable

864
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Speaker 1: than we could have thought a month ago. And the

865
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Speaker 1: Packer is heating up.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're all getting They're also separated by three games,

867
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Speaker 2: so you.

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Speaker 1: Know, I I would see.

869
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Speaker 3: I would see the Packers making the run because they're

870
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Speaker 3: starting to play in all facets, especially defensively. Great situation

871
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 3: of football, Jordan Love looks real. I don't think the

872
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 3: Lions will collapse. I think they're getting ready to regather.

873
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 3: But I think Miami's is gonna go away to click off,

874
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 3: you know, the rest of the way.

875
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: They may lose once, it'd be a pretty huge collapse.

876
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 4: Well, they have Titans Jets the next two weeks, which

877
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 4: you know you they're going to be heavy favorites, but

878
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 4: then they have Cowboys Ravens. Their Bills in this scenario

879
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 4: would have to run the table. They would have to

880
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 4: win every game. I think they're capable of it. But

881
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 4: at Dallas home for Cowboys, that's that's tough.

882
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: What if they split those games?

883
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 3: They play four out of five at home, and you

884
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 3: better believe they are gonna they are going to be

885
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 3: playing for home field advances.

886
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: Right the Dolphins anywhere else.

887
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 4: Unless the Bills went out, the Dolphins would have to

888
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 4: stub their toe against the Jets or the Titans and

889
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 4: lose their hard games. They'd have to lose three out

890
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 4: of four before even facing the Bills. There, I think

891
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 4: the likelihood of one of these things happening is is

892
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 4: probably greater than people think. I don't have a hot

893
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 4: take on either, but to me, the Lions are a

894
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 4: little more crickety, uh a word, So I'm gonna go down.

895
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 4: It's more like a rickety yeah, just like the Foundation

896
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 4: is a little rickety defense. Their defense is not yeah

897
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 4: like they were quite like, you know, when was the

898
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 4: last time they played a good defensive game.

899
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: Like it's it's been a week. It's like it's it's

900
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: like a fortress that's on like wooden planks, like you know,

901
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: rickey at the base. Yeah, it's like, I know, I

902
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: know what rickey is, but like, is that the I

903
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: don't know is that the Lions? I mean, I know

904
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: you were you went crickety, So it's yeah, that doesn't

905
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: make any sense whatsoever. From too many Mighty.

906
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 4: You get, you get blown out, you get the doors

907
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 4: blown off you by the Ravens. You have to win

908
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 4: on the last possession against the Chargers, you know, you

909
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 4: have to win on the last second against the Bears,

910
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 4: same thing against the Saints. I mean, these are not

911
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 4: great teams. So just a little ricky ye rickety Greg,

912
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 4: This one's pretty simple. Kyler Murray is the Cardinals quarterback

913
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 4: next year, or a rookie quarterback is the Cardinals.

914
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: Quarter what more likely?

915
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that these you know, it's they're they're

916
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 2: genuinely looking at Kyler Murray's like from with new fresh eyes.

917
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 2: You've got all new people there, and they they've done

918
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 2: it quietly, like the tank beyond the tanking thing. This

919
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 2: year they already like accrued a bunch of draft picks

920
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 2: in the previous draft. I always thought they were like,

921
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 2: no matter what happened with this season, they were in

922
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 2: good position to leverage those to get the quarterback that

923
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 2: they want. I think new coach, new quarterback buys you,

924
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: time buys you years. Like new coach attached to a

925
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray experience that's always been kind of up and

926
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: down and weird, is a little more paeriless. You could

927
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: get assets for him. I think he's very tradable, and

928
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 2: I think they're going to go rookie. I think it's like,

929
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 2: let's we're starting this experience over.

930
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: I put Kyler in the same category Steve as justin

931
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: fields where they have maybe some control of their faith,

932
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: but they are going to have to ball out to

933
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: end the season and change some minds in that building.

934
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: I think it's more likely he does, though, get traded

935
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: and they start over.

936
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 3: I think more likely Kyler's back. I mean everything I've

937
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 3: heard is had him and the OC really get along.

938
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 3: They've kind of designed some things. And look at Kyler

939
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 3: Murray's win loss record when he's on the field. He

940
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 3: wins ball games given two this year. Yeah, I mean,

941
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 3: he wins ball games. So I think it could be

942
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 3: a situation to buy the more time to say, let's

943
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,959
Speaker 3: get other pieces around him. We've got one more full

944
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 3: year to evaluate Kyler. But if we've got to move off,

945
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 3: move off of him after twenty twenty four, we at

946
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 3: least have pieces around him where we can go out

947
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 3: into free agency or something, or trade up and get

948
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 3: a quarterback because now we've got all the other pieces

949
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 3: we need, or more of the pieces that we need

950
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 3: to be competitive.

951
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 2: It's like it's telling that they, you know, with very

952
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 2: clear eyes and common said he's going to come back

953
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 2: and play this season. We're going to get a look

954
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 2: at him, versus you know, some sort of phony thing

955
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 2: where oh, we're not sure he's ready, and he's quietly

956
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 2: never appeared.

957
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 4: The contract makes it trickier to trades. I think it's

958
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 4: I'll be talking about him a little on NFL Plus

959
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 4: this Thursday, and yeah check it out. I think the

960
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 4: way he's playing, he's cementing his spot. I agree, because

961
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 4: he's just playing too well that they're not gonna want

962
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 4: to deal with what's behind do or not? Two and no,

963
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 4: by the way, it's a great receiver draft. Maybe you

964
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 4: have the third pick. Maybe Marvin Airs like you could

965
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 4: give him a nice weapon.

966
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 2: All right, Last one, Mark, Okay, uh, all right, A

967
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 2: this is a three parter and it's not as long

968
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 2: as the other one.

969
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make you see it for four minutes. A.

970
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 2: The Super Bowl features a backup quarterback, okay, not a

971
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:13,919
Speaker 2: not a person you went anythink wit your starter?

972
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: Okay, there's a lot of that going on.

973
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 2: Or either one of two people, Dan or Mark pass

974
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: away from what the NFL reports as natural causes while

975
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 2: sitting through Steelers Patriots on Thursday night or Dan Mark

976
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 2: okay yeah, or pros pro reporter and noted wine connoisseur

977
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 2: Steve Why this offseason announces the unveiling of his own

978
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,280
Speaker 2: handcrafted pino noir it's coming.

979
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, a zesty, rich blend of northern Californian grapes. Wine

980
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 3: shrinkers go utterly bonkers for this new offering entitled First

981
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 3: and Drunk.

982
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: Oh what you know what, I think Steve and his

983
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: wife are a little bit too classy to have drunk

984
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 1: in the title.

985
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 2: I thought about that, but I think it's a marketplace.

986
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 2: I mean, you when you go look for wine and

987
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 2: you're with like some friends, you kind of it's the label,

988
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 2: it's the name, and you're like, you try that.

989
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: At least it's Steve, you know, holding a football on

990
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 1: the cover, were drunk.

991
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 3: We could tell it in you know, your your corner

992
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 3: market story and bodega's around, you know, if we're putting

993
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 3: drunk on there. And by the way, I've been getting

994
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 3: the grapes in the Central Valley, that's where the pino

995
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 3: grapes grow.

996
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: My seeless guy there we go, you know, challenged the

997
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: concept and he came drunk with Steve. And in the

998
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 1: past we've all been there, so I'm not saying there,

999
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: you know, getting loose and having a good time. I

1000
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: I think that's the most likely that Steve has some

1001
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: type of wine operation in the future. I hope you

1002
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: and I survived Thursday night football.

1003
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 3: I am concerned, but I think that's the least likely,

1004
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 3: and I think it is.

1005
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: Certainly possible we get a backup in the super Bowl,

1006
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: but I'm holding out hope we're going to get a

1007
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: super power matchup healthy stars.

1008
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 4: I guess i'd go back up just because you could

1009
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 4: also get it have him injured, like in the playoffs

1010
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 4: or conference championship. And I just think Steve's at a

1011
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 4: point in his career. Hm, he doesn't need to be

1012
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 4: adding jobs right now, do you. I'm and you've got

1013
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 4: a lot going on.

1014
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's too much horticulture and arming that have

1015
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: to just like, I just feel like that's too mud.

1016
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: But did you put a time on this. This could

1017
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: be the you know, I said this.

1018
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 2: Offseason, and I think it'd be a situation where you're not,

1019
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 2: you know, stomping grapes like that news person the felting.

1020
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:17,439
Speaker 1: You're like you you're old.

1021
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you'd outsource the operation, but it would be

1022
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 2: like your name and your powerful brain.

1023
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 3: All right, Well, I mean that might be possible. I'm

1024
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 3: still gonna go back up quarterback. As you have visions

1025
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 3: of nick Foles in my head, so it could possibly happen.

1026
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 4: How about Teddy Bridgewater for the Lions there in the

1027
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 4: Super Bowl?

1028
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 1: Teddy off this year? Well, a lot of teams could

1029
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 1: use it, Teddy right about now? The Lions they draft,

1030
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: they have it. They haven't needed one draft. Good to everybody,

1031
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: super Bowl week? All right, good stuff good? What's more likely?

1032
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: Do we have the grapes? Lady? By the way I

1033
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 1: stole on the board, I don't think you had grapes late?

1034
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: What do you mean, I don't think so? Do you

1035
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: mean so long? Isn't that like seven years? It wasn't

1036
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: actually that long ago? Really we used it for a segment.

1037
00:47:59,080 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: I can't remember what it was.

1038
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 3: It's a grizzly say. It wasn't that long ago. Actually,

1039
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 3: I feel like it was just a couple of years ago.

1040
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: No, it was this year. It All right, Let's get

1041
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: to that Thursday night football game that Mark and I

1042
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: will be co helming on around the NFL tomorrow evening.

1043
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: It is the New England Patriots two and ten traveling

1044
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh to face the Steelers. Steelers. Gotta have it, Steelers,

1045
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 1: you know, Steve as Tomlins want to do after a

1046
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: really bad game. He comes after the team hard, he

1047
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: puts himself in front of the line. I need to

1048
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: be better, but we were JV and I just wonder,

1049
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: here's my curates because I almost want the game to

1050
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: be really bad. Now, me too. Yeah, so it's like,

1051
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: do the Pittsburgh Steelers play down to the level of

1052
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: their opponent with a backup quarterback themselves? Now, Mitch Trubisky,

1053
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: I could see this one getting real grizzly, low scoring,

1054
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: going down to the wire.

1055
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 3: Maybe let's give me the Pets too much credit? Yes,

1056
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 3: it is okay. You know, so we were talking about

1057
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 3: stomping grapes. So let's let's pretend that uh Tomlin and

1058
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 3: the Steelers defense is the winemaker. They are going to

1059
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 3: be dialing it up to stomp some grapes. Okay, you know,

1060
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 3: Bailey's happy. You can see a lot of Alex Highsmith T. J.

1061
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: Watt.

1062
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 3: It's not gonna be kind because the Patriots can't move

1063
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 3: the ball. There it is, Bailey's happy. Bailey's see you

1064
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 3: got to outsource the grape and outsource.

1065
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1066
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 3: No, there will be there will be two defensive scores

1067
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:35,919
Speaker 3: by Pittsburgh.

1068
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: Two to fire up here, fantasy ds.

1069
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 3: Hey, you know Mark those at the Browns week two

1070
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 3: what happened, so so it will it will turn out

1071
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 3: to be something sloppy like that.

1072
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: But defensively, I think the Steelers, no, this is one

1073
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: and no Remondre Stevenson. That was the only thing they

1074
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: could do him. He's got a high brain. I don't

1075
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: know if we're going to see them again. Here it

1076
00:49:55,600 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: is the last five weeks, Patriots scoring seventeen seventeen. I

1077
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: don't even know if there's a defensive score here, seventeen

1078
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: seventeen six seven zero.

1079
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 4: Right, you mentioned the over at loss was thirty. The

1080
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 4: games that they've played the last three weeks haven't gone

1081
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 4: over seventeen because their defense is playing pretty well. They

1082
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 4: actually have the number one rush defense in the league

1083
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 4: in terms of yards per carry allowed. So that is

1084
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 4: what Pittsburgh's best at is running the ball, but offensive

1085
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 4: and Zappie was an upgrade even they It shows you

1086
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 4: how bad they are that they didn't They literally didn't

1087
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 4: score point and Zappi was unquestionably a little better than

1088
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 4: mac Jones had been. They had two drives, which really

1089
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 4: just to me typified where the Patriots are at a

1090
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 4: thirteen play drive that didn't past thirty and then an

1091
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 4: eleven play drive that ended at the forty three.

1092
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: That's that is where they are.

1093
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 4: Whoa, it is just yeah, I'm gonna go Steelers sixteen

1094
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 4: Patriots eleven.

1095
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: They covered the to get on the board.

1096
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I mean I think that's how it projects.

1097
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 2: That's why probably will be like thirty one or nothing

1098
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 2: is like I would even, that's that's under that's under even.

1099
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 2: But when it's like that, I mean, the Patriots just

1100
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 2: are so inept and hard to watch on offense, Like

1101
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 2: they've gone forty one straight possessions without a passing touchdown.

1102
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: We're gonna get twenty five carries from Ezekiel Elliott. It's

1103
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of Ezekiel Elliott.

1104
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 2: Ye. Yeah, I mean it's I need a lot of

1105
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 2: Alex Heismith too. I mean they've given him twelve sacks

1106
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 2: the Patriots the last three weeks, and like right, he's

1107
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 2: been their more numbers wise productive to ass Rusher. The

1108
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 2: one thing he doesn't is get rid of the ball.

1109
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: He just sort of hold he holds it. It's it's

1110
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: not gonna it's not gonna go here. Here's here's the

1111
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 1: good news, everybody. And again I said it on Monday,

1112
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,919
Speaker 1: and I'll say it again. You're thinking yourself. I listen

1113
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: to ATN every week. I listen to every episode. But

1114
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna clear my Thursday night played

1115
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: my Friday morning, but I'm not gonna listen to that

1116
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 1: the recap of that game. No, no, no mistake, because

1117
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: me and they are going to cook something up as

1118
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: an auxiliary seg as long as you survive. Well, that's true,

1119
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: but that would.

1120
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 2: Be just sharing memories of what such a flexible operation.

1121
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 2: That early in the week we had come up with

1122
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 2: what would have been a killer seg, but then the

1123
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 2: news cycle forced us to talk about some of that

1124
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 2: in real time when we bring the news to them

1125
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 2: very quickly.

1126
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: So we're just pitching.

1127
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 2: We're coming up with new ideas now and we're you know,

1128
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 2: we're stomping, we're drinking the first and drunk.

1129
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: We're doing all right. Don't don't blow Cunningham in the game. Yeah,

1130
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: it sounds like he's been taking some snap.

1131
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 4: Don't blow this Belichick because I want that top two

1132
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 4: pick and he has you know, it would be a

1133
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 4: callback performance. Does some very big like owning of Mike

1134
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 4: Tomlin and this Steelers operation moments which dotted much of

1135
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 4: the two thousands.

1136
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 3: Belichick's go on, love smith Man, He's like, I'm not

1137
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 3: making this pick man, I am not giving them.

1138
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: He is trying to get this win, all right. So

1139
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: check out Thursday night football on Amazon Prime and of

1140
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: course game coverage anchored by Colleen Wolfe not with us

1141
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: today on NFL Network. Okay, here we go, before we

1142
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 1: say goodbye, always fun. Steve's here, it's special. Let's open

1143
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: up the mail bag, and uh, you know this is

1144
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: right all right? Uh? Producer Eric who, by the way,

1145
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: producer Eric is more likely to start for the Patriots

1146
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 1: next season than Mac Jones. I feel confident saying that

1147
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: yes or no, well not more, I know.

1148
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 3: I mean he's missing a large part of one of

1149
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 3: his fingers.

1150
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: But not his throwing finger. You just got to spin

1151
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 1: it with the right hand. It's an is it No,

1152
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: it is your right hand. It is my right hand.

1153
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 7: But don't they say it's the the index finger that

1154
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 7: is the impourant one.

1155
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: Did you know that our producer lost part of his

1156
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,720
Speaker 1: thumb in a slicing accident in the kitchen. I didn't

1157
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 1: and yeah, it has a growth on that. By the way,

1158
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: it's dude. I was actually having to talk to my

1159
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:45,760
Speaker 1: wife about it yesterday.

1160
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 7: It's it's looks pretty normal, Like it looks like has

1161
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 7: a little gumby, little bit misshapen.

1162
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, but did you know.

1163
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 2: That body parts grow back if they're cut off. I

1164
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 2: didn't know that. I baffled me from the start.

1165
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't. I know, like, you know your

1166
00:53:58,480 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: liver can regenerate.

1167
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 7: I didn't if I took it to the nub, like

1168
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 7: the knuckle that I'm presuming I wouldn't be like in

1169
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 7: the same situation. But you know, I took off a

1170
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,720
Speaker 7: slice and it is the I looked at the picture

1171
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 7: the other day of the actual incident and based off

1172
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 7: that to this it's night and day.

1173
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy, to be honest. Any chance you

1174
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: could grow a second thumbnail? That would be something We'll

1175
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 1: check back in a couple of months. I'm holding out, hope,

1176
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: I'm holding out. Yeah, we could charge for that side.

1177
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: Side All right, let's get to it. Eric, first question up.

1178
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: All right, this is from a death metal Minivan. Niners

1179
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: are clearly the best team, but the universe refuses to

1180
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: let Kyle Shannan have nice things. So how are they

1181
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: eventually going to lose? I do think the Niners are

1182
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: the best team, but is it it's a little bit

1183
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: too much to say, like, oh, what could possibly get

1184
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: in the way? You know, there are some really good

1185
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,760
Speaker 1: teams in the NFC alone atop that conference.

1186
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 4: I think for maximum pain it's of Ravens forty nine

1187
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 4: Ers super Bowl rematch. Oh yes, so that you can

1188
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 4: just like relive, because that to me seemed it wouldn't

1189
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 4: be painful necessarily for Shanahan related to the forty nine Ers,

1190
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 4: but for the fan base to have the same team

1191
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 4: kind of beat you. Maybe it's in the exact same way,

1192
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 4: you know, where they get down inside the ten yard

1193
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 4: line late and they throw.

1194
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 2: F we'd be fresh pain to lose to the Chiefs,

1195
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 2: which just happened under Shanahan.

1196
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 1: That's true too, so I think, yeah, you get you

1197
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: get there all the way. That's how I see. That'd

1198
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: be tough to I can't deal with it, can you?

1199
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: Just pictures like stone faced Mike Shanahan with that shock

1200
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: of white hair and the luxury suite on the Super

1201
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: Bowl just looking down at the sun, like do not

1202
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: disappoint me again. I have multiple titles. Do one on

1203
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: your own, like one of those things. Yeah, I could

1204
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: see that, I mean based on yeah, if that were this,

1205
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: you see that, Steve, Yeah, I could absolutely see it.

1206
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 3: The Most Painful Ways or rock Party you get hurt

1207
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:00,479
Speaker 3: again the NFC cham two.

1208
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 4: Don't put that energy in the air, Steve, all right.

1209
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 4: Next up, then we get Sam Darnold starting to.

1210
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy asks who will be the vaunted team no

1211
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: one wants to meet in the playoffs from the NFC

1212
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,240
Speaker 1: and a FC this season. So this is a team

1213
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 1: that is I guess to make this work is right

1214
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,720
Speaker 1: now on the outside looking in right.

1215
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 4: Well, it's just sort of the to me, the Bills

1216
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 4: pop up as like you don't want.

1217
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 3: A team that has to get hot, and like really

1218
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 3: not the number one seed right now?

1219
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: Right?

1220
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I I've already I think it's Texans personally.

1221
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 2: I think during the keep just going one playoff when

1222
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 2: you said maybe more, I said two in that in

1223
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 2: that scenario that they went to the a FC title game,

1224
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 2: maybe they didn't say what would happen though?

1225
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,280
Speaker 1: And Green I guess green Bay would work as the

1226
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 1: backers have high level quarterback play. Yeah, a couple of

1227
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: weeks ago, I would have been, you know, super into

1228
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 1: the Vikings in this case, now we got to see

1229
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: what Dobbs looks like. But think about this though, don't

1230
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 1: get down two down on the Vikings. I know it's

1231
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: been rough couple weeks. The team around the NFL is

1232
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: getting Justin Jefferson back and that is going, Yeah, it

1233
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 1: maybe be a difference maker and they get hot again,

1234
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: and yeah, the d's so much better with Flores this year.

1235
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: All right, what's next? Alright? This is from White Hans

1236
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: Vender Morrow. Can I nominate Tua to be considered for

1237
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: the Superstar Club debate next summer? At current time, which

1238
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: QB would be considered to take off the list? All Right, Steve,

1239
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, I know you have a connection to Tua,

1240
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: so I want to tee you up on this one.

1241
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: The Superstar Club, Steve, is an article I put out

1242
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: every summer on NFL dot Com where it's a zero

1243
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: sum game. If I put someone into the Superstar Club,

1244
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: I have to take someone out. So here's who's currently

1245
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: in the Superstar Club. If you are going to consider

1246
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: taking putting two in Josh Allen Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert,

1247
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers? Is this

1248
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: based on just like whatever the upcoming season?

1249
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 3: Kind of like how we choose the one hundred for

1250
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,439
Speaker 3: the upcoming year, but we reflected back on what they've

1251
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 3: done the previous year. So I'll take Aaron Rodgers off, right?

1252
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 3: Yeahs off, But.

1253
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: It's kind of easy in a way.

1254
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 4: But he is such a superstar as he's you know,

1255
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 4: made sure to remain throughout.

1256
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 3: Hey after seeing two on the Man cast Rock the Guitar, right,

1257
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 3: he's very versatile. Was there surprising person?

1258
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: Oh? I took out Dak last year? Frank Okay, I

1259
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: gotta put Dak in too, So I gotta take somebody else. Yeah,

1260
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, if I don't know if I can't Dawphins.

1261
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 4: Fans hate it, but I feel like I still need

1262
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 4: a little more from it here down.

1263
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: I think the rest of his season will tell.

1264
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 4: Her superstar because his his wide receivers kind of the

1265
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 4: superstar and his coach.

1266
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Speaker 1: You put him in the rock party category? No, no,

1267
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: but which name am I taking out? Yeah?

1268
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 4: Rogers would be a good one, but I would maybe

1269
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 4: put dak if dak and when he.

1270
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: Takes no shame in that one, no shame in that one.

1271
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: And I don't throw it out there. I know nobody

1272
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: wants to even talk about this.

1273
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, Herbert, I mean he's yeah, it's like it's

1274
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 2: been a the we're super I.

1275
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 4: Mean, he's the one in the he's got commercials, he's

1276
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 4: got TV commercials, that magnetic subway.

1277
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: It's left.

1278
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 2: Not his personal skills that have like changed this year though.

1279
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 2: I think it's just he's in a mess.

1280
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: It's almost show. It's time to show. And I think

1281
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: this twelve inch foot long is gonna be delicious. They

1282
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: know where you're going with that? All right? Next up?

1283
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: All right, Eric Blazell, I think I got that right.

1284
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: What do you think? Mark Blasil Blasil Eric, let us

1285
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: know who is the most under the radar week Elite

1286
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: off season free agency signing. I like this one a lot. Greg,

1287
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: This is your world because you do the top one

1288
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: oh one. Who is the one that kind of maybe

1289
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: you had lower in the list and then ended up

1290
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 1: being a star this year? Who is it?

1291
00:59:56,280 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 4: I went back to look at the list in that

1292
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 4: top twenty is terrible compared to like twenty through fifty.

1293
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: About Bobby Okerke, I don't know Hurricane Kaoke.

1294
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 4: We haven't said his name much on this program, but

1295
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:11,959
Speaker 4: he has been dynamite.

1296
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: We mentioned maybe epcom. Yeah, the Colts has been great.

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01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: They all have to be very difficult.

1298
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 4: Also, Zach Allen for the Bronco although I had I

1299
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 4: had him right high, but he doesn't get a lot

1300
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 4: of pop and he's been fantastic.

1301
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 2: I mean, to be fair, Travalta didn't know how to

1302
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 2: say that women's name so that it fits.

1303
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 1: With the first All right, what's next? Jesse Bates, by the.

1304
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 4: Way, that's Kaiser Way TG Edwards Key.

1305
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 1: Parker Stewart asks, Hey, Dan new dad. Here thoughts on

1306
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: kids growing up as fans of their parents team. I'm

1307
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: a Packer fan, but I live around d C. Is

1308
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 1: a cool slash fair slash acceptable to make the kid

1309
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: follow suit with no other connection? Thanks? Uh? Is he

1310
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 1: like the Orioles or the Nationals or Yeah? So I

1311
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: can only tell you what I did because I'm obviously

1312
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: a New York transplant here in LA and I did

1313
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 1: not push the Jets on them at all because I

1314
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: knew first of all, the Jets are a very difficult

1315
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: fan experience. And two, if all their friends or fans

1316
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 1: of you know, a local team, I'm not going to

1317
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: take that away from them. So my eldest son, and

1318
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: you know, the dad juice is still powerful. So it's

1319
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: like they're going to be what his dad. Like my

1320
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 1: eldest son, I would say, he's kind of a Jets fan.

1321
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 1: My youngest son is gravitated toward the Chargers, another paying franchise,

1322
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: and they're also building a facility near nearby to where

1323
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: I live. So like I'm like okay with that. And

1324
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 1: they have a franchise quarterback maybe he's a superstar, maybe

1325
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: he's not. So let them do their own thing. And

1326
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: that's how I've played this because if you try to

1327
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 1: force it, bad news. Right.

1328
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 4: My initial thought reading this question is kids are have

1329
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 4: their own minds. Like, you can't make the children necessarily

1330
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 4: do anything.

1331
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: You can try to mold them you wish, it's not

1332
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: the healthy move to do.

1333
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 4: You can try, but it might not be successful. And

1334
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 4: more importantly, like every kid is different, Like some kids,

1335
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 4: yeah they there, they might be down with that. Some

1336
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 4: they're gonna have their own thoughts and then it also

1337
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 4: could change, like what they like at eight might be

1338
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 4: very different from what they like at twelve because of

1339
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 4: because of a lot of things like that, they're gonna

1340
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 4: have their own opinion. My daughter is diehard Rams and

1341
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 4: my son is more with the Patriots with me and

1342
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 4: kind of like it comes and goes or whatever. But

1343
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 4: they're kind of gonna do what they want to do.

1344
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 4: I feel like my.

1345
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 2: Dad, let he didn't never put he was a Giants fan,

1346
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 2: but he never pushed the Giants on me. We watched

1347
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 2: a lot of Giants games together, and it was just

1348
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 2: kind of like the doing that with your dad was awesome.

1349
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 2: But I wouldn't be here if I hadn't gone and

1350
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 2: picked the Browns back then. A lot of what happened

1351
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 2: there turned me into turn me onto like writing and

1352
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 2: journalism and the story of those teams and everything else.

1353
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 2: It's like, so I think you've got to not get

1354
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 2: in the way of the destiny of your child, whatever

1355
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 2: it is.

1356
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 4: You know, Like Walker is a fan of Scott Hansen

1357
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 4: in Red Zone. That's and his fantasy team that like

1358
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 4: we just like a lot of kids, that's that's his

1359
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:02,479
Speaker 4: biggest them.

1360
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, my oldest son, you know, I told him, Hey,

1361
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 3: when I was a kid, I love the Vikings, and

1362
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 3: I lived in Minnesota, and so he's decided like the Vikings.

1363
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 3: But my other two kids, since most of their lives

1364
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 3: are in Atlanta, they love the Falcons. They love the

1365
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 3: Atlanta Hawks. But the one thing I do not allow,

1366
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 3: I do not allow Greg, pardon me, any Celtics frandom

1367
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 3: in the house.

1368
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: It is not allowed.

1369
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 3: I think that here for the Celtics you can go outside,

1370
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 3: but in the crib not have I like that.

1371
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 2: I think there are things that you would say that

1372
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 2: won't be part of our family.

1373
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 1: You can't be a fan in my house, Yeah, I can't.

1374
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 4: I pretty much cut put the kebash on Lakers. That

1375
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,479
Speaker 4: was the only thing I really put.

1376
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: But it's funny like that kind of is in opposition

1377
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 1: of everything we were just saying. But there's not.

1378
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 3: No it's off limits, off limits. You cannot have it.

1379
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 3: It does not work, all right?

1380
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: What else, Brandon Laurie, if the NFL started a franchise

1381
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 1: overseas next season, who would he who would he think

1382
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 1: would make the best head coach for an international audience?

1383
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:04,919
Speaker 1: Steve take this one.

1384
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 3: Come on, there's only one answer to this, and he's

1385
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 3: not coaching in the NFL. Right now, there you go.

1386
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 3: He's coaching at old miss Lane Kiffin. What how much

1387
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 3: of a superstar. I'm going ted Lasso here.

1388
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to.

1389
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 3: Super handsome guy who doesn't care what he says or tweets.

1390
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 3: He's overseas so he can stick shots and everybody. He

1391
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 3: would completely engage with the international audience. We know he's

1392
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 3: you know, he will up and leave whatever. Lane Kiffin,

1393
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 3: that is a wild one.

1394
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 4: That would spectacular, which I think with Papa is he's

1395
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 4: like uber American. He is the best and the worst

1396
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 4: of what our country has to offer.

1397
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 1: Like he would he would represent uh no longer with us.

1398
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 1: Mike Leach would be a good guy.

1399
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 2: I think I'd go uber American in the sense of

1400
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 2: like ship Dan Campbell over there and he'd.

1401
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 4: Be out Scones and you know, you know, the hooganism

1402
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 4: would come back. Yeah, I thought of which, Who knows,

1403
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 4: maybe he will get a coordinator and a head coaching

1404
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 4: job someday. Henry's friend Aiden Dirty, the defensive line coach

1405
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 4: of the Cowboys, who's from London, that's right and is legit.

1406
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 4: You know, grew up there, played an NFL europe.

1407
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 1: And hometown hero Angle I like having.

1408
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 4: A very successful run here as a position coach, right now,

1409
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 4: and move.

1410
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: Up the ladder. Here we go. It's a good one.

1411
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 1: Had some hard knocks pop back in the day. All right,

1412
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 1: a couple more what we got? Oh, Steve, this is

1413
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: another one I picked for you. You you're still working

1414
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 1: with the Falcons. I'm not. I have ay, so now

1415
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: you you could be completely absolutely objective. Here we go,

1416
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 1: Tom Marshall, is it the scheme in Atlanta? Or is

1417
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitch just not lived up to that? He both?

1418
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 3: Because look at man, we can sit there and say, hell, Falcons,

1419
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 3: you don't know what to do with Kyle Pitch. Well,

1420
01:05:56,360 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 3: he's been targeted sixty eight times. He has forty one catches, right,

1421
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 3: that's twenty seven non catches.

1422
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 1: Now that could be bad throws part of it.

1423
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 3: They still haven't figured out how to fully incorporate him,

1424
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 3: whereas oh, you know, Allions gets ham Laporte and as

1425
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 3: a rookie and he's like an anchor of their offense.

1426
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 1: Right, they figured that part out.

1427
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 3: And meanwhile Johnny Smith has twenty fewer targets and only

1428
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 3: four fewer catches and one more touchdown than Kyle Pitch.

1429
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 3: Part of that's is on Kyle Pitch, right, He's got

1430
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 3: to do something better to make himself more of an

1431
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 3: attractive option and make plays when they come his way.

1432
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 3: So I think that's a dual issue when it comes

1433
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 3: to Kyle Pitch in the.

1434
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 1: Fount and he's years into his career.

1435
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 4: I wish I could remember who said it. And he's

1436
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 4: still only twenty three, which is great. I'd love to

1437
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 4: see him with a fresh start. He's one of those

1438
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 4: guys he's going to be the next Sammy Watkins that

1439
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 4: you're like, he's still twenty seven. We always joked that

1440
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 4: Sam Hawkins was twenty seven years old for like seven

1441
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 4: straight years ago, And I wish I remember who had

1442
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 4: said this, but I looked out for it when they

1443
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 4: said it that in this last game, Pits is showing

1444
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 4: some frustrat at times, and the thought was me, he's

1445
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 4: frustrated about himself, that he is not as explosive.

1446
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 1: Coming out.

1447
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 4: And I do think if you watch, like he still

1448
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 4: looks like a great athlete, but is he next level

1449
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 4: crazy athlete that we sort of thought.

1450
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 1: He I don't know. I don't know, all right, last one,

1451
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: last one? Here we go, And it comes from Fox

1452
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 1: Real so FO so real on X, could you update

1453
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 1: the current hot butt rankings? Please? All right, So and Greg,

1454
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 1: Just to qualifier here, I'm not celebrating the job lack

1455
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 1: of job security for these men, and I know their

1456
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 1: staff and the family is involved. This is just the

1457
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 1: reality of the sport. Okay. This is the this is

1458
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 1: the coaches under fire. Not actually yes, it's more the

1459
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 1: sound effects.

1460
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 4: Uh well that really I think does It doesn't underscore

1461
01:07:58,440 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 4: you the point you made.

1462
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 1: That's show business, all right. So, like I said weeks ago,

1463
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 1: and I've been proven correct, and I think even Schefter

1464
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 1: reported on it a couple of weeks back, this could

1465
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 1: be unprecedented in terms of how many dismissals we have

1466
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 1: come black Monday and around that, we've already lost two

1467
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 1: coaches I have. I have a list of ten here,

1468
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna put in an order of hottest butt

1469
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 1: to pretty hot butt. Ron Rivera won Yeah, stop me

1470
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 1: whenever you disagree. Steve Brandon Staley two, Dennis Allen three,

1471
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 1: Belichick at four, Ebra Flues five, Sola six, Artie Smith seven.

1472
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 1: Ooh yeah he's not He's not gonna get fired, okay,

1473
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles eight Rable at nine and he's not gonna

1474
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 1: get a different situations and John McDermott at ten and the.

1475
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 3: McDermott one's gonna be real and a real interesting one

1476
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 3: to watch.

1477
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 4: Well, this this doesn't feel like now there are always

1478
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:04,679
Speaker 4: surprises like Vrabel, you know, fulfilling Patriots fans dreams and

1479
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 4: like somehow going there and getting traded or something would

1480
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 4: would would be a.

1481
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 1: Young quarterback man, I don't know if you want to leave.

1482
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 4: I don't think that's gonna happen, like so maybe there

1483
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 4: is surprise. But then now I look at this list

1484
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 4: and it's like, actually the over unders round eight, which

1485
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:20,839
Speaker 4: is normal, right, Uh? I would put Dennis Allen slightly

1486
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 4: lower than than who are the ones right below?

1487
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 1: And Belichick and Eberflus, they feel like they're.

1488
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 4: Almost certainly I think I think he's whereas Dennis Allen.

1489
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 1: No, I think he's about the final hundred meters of

1490
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 1: the green miles.

1491
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 4: I tend to agree because I don't think they'll win

1492
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 4: the division. But if they won the division. But here's

1493
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:38,600
Speaker 4: the thing, maybe.

1494
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 1: If if you guys are all in that so Rivera's daily,

1495
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 1: Alan Belichick, ebraflu that's five plus two already give me

1496
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 1: I forgot about the tour guys. I think he's well,

1497
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 1: I think he's done a good job.

1498
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 2: But like, is Todd Bowles like a rock solid like

1499
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 2: sticking around guy.

1500
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1501
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 3: I just think it's like it depends who helps becomes available.

1502
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 3: Sometimes with these situations you have that many openings, how

1503
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 3: deep are you going into the well?

1504
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 4: And also where do they view their development if they

1505
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 4: view next year as a little bit of a well

1506
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 4: they've got do we just want balls to get another

1507
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 4: chance for that year and then then see.

1508
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 1: That's a lot of years.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's like, how like teams don't spend two

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Speaker 2: years just sitting around doing I mean, there wasn't a

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Speaker 2: lot of like a purpose to this Bucks season so far.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think I think they felt they had enough

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Speaker 3: veterans and their their cap was in such a way

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Speaker 3: like Okay, let's give this a shot. But they've got

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Speaker 3: to them and the Saints have got to have their

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Speaker 3: final salary cap older player reckoning hung up in the

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Speaker 3: next year or two, and I think that's when you

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Speaker 3: clean everybody out.

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Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna say, Arthur Smith, do you think

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Speaker 1: he's got enough rope there to survive three straight seasons

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Speaker 1: without the playoffs, potentially.

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Speaker 3: If they go seven to ten, I think for a

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01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 3: third straight year, I think he's in trouble. But I

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Speaker 3: think they'll win enough games this year to contend. I

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Speaker 3: think they'll give him an opportunity to get a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: You know, they stifled the process by flirting with the

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Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson stuff one year, and I think, kind of,

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Speaker 3: you know, they didn't, they didn't and then end up

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Speaker 3: not getting him. Yeah, but I think he will get

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Speaker 3: one more year because I think he can coach. I

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Speaker 3: think or you know, organizing the overall team has taken

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Speaker 3: some time, but they get a quarterback, they're going to

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Speaker 3: be They're gonna be a dangerous for.

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Speaker 4: Their schedule is quite easy too, It's very but there's

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Speaker 4: a there is a hunger games feel to this the

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Speaker 4: end of this NFC South season because it's Tampa, Atlanta,

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Speaker 4: New Orleans all playing each other and feeling like maybe

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Speaker 4: only one coach you gotta win the division.

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Speaker 1: Feel safe.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I still think Arthur Blank could be patient with him.

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Speaker 3: He's been He's been patient with most of his head coaches.

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Speaker 4: Well luckily for him, I think he's there the most

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Speaker 4: likely they got a game up and they got the

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Speaker 4: most talent Hunger games.

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Speaker 1: I would have went with what's that the Japanese Death

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Speaker 1: Show on Netflix? The a little more currents good games,

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01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 1: good games. I would have squid games. Is the pop

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Speaker 1: culture refer there? Oh wow? Or we can go classic

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Speaker 1: Lord of the Flies. All right? Uh, Steve, you've said

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Speaker 1: it all. Please plug Steve? Where can people see you?

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Speaker 1: Hear you?

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01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 3: Rio on Mondays and Thursdays with James Palmer it is

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01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 3: the NFL Report on check Out.

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Speaker 1: Good guess your stuff? You a good guest, good show.

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Speaker 3: This week we'll have al ging Gold and Derwin James

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Speaker 3: along with Steve Smith and Brian balder On Thursday, find

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Speaker 3: us on Roku too, be Pluto and all of your

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Speaker 3: fast channels. Uh.

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01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 4: And then as a podcast yes.

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Speaker 3: And then on Sunday's Game Day preview with Andrew Ceciliano's

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Speaker 3: Cynthia Freeland. I don't know who our fantasy guests will

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Speaker 3: be this week. I think it's Adam Rank, not quite sure,

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Speaker 3: but that's a very good show. Great reporters up to

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01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 3: kick off, getting good information there, so good stuff there

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Speaker 3: he is.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having you guys, always a great time. Really

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01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:02,799
Speaker 1: fun and we'll be back Thursday with our Thursday triple header. Uh,

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Speaker 1: stay tuned for that until next time. Heed the call.

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Speaker 1: Turn this up in my headphones.

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Speaker 8: Steve wash on the ATN podcast and everything is alright,

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Speaker 8: Steve Wesh Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah

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Speaker 1: That guy I know you're talking about.