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Speaker 1: Here it go to Monday. It's our number two. I

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Speaker 1: guess I shouldn't be shocked. Eight of the last nine

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Speaker 1: NCAA basketball champs have lost in the round of thirty

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Speaker 1: two or earlier in the following tournament. The exception is

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Speaker 1: that the Yukon team, that great Yukon team several years ago.

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Speaker 1: But it caught me off guard. I filled out my bracket.

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Speaker 1: I had a couple of red stripes before I filled

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Speaker 1: it out, so it was a little choppy. And you

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Speaker 1: go to the Caribbean, you got those well crudo, a

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Speaker 1: few red stripes. You know, a lot of vitamin D.

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Speaker 1: I told J Mack I overdosed on vacation. The good

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Speaker 1: news it was vitamin D. But you know, J Mac,

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Speaker 1: I will tell you when you go on vacation, it

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Speaker 1: puts things in perspective.

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Speaker 3: How's that?

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Speaker 1: And I've come to the conclusion that I like sports

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Speaker 1: because I'm sitting there and it's eighty three degrees and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, give me a red stripe. I got to

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Speaker 1: turn the tournament on Friday, and it's great. I just

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Speaker 1: it is a lot of fun, all right. We call

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Speaker 1: it Colin right, Colin wrong. We do it every Monday,

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Speaker 1: and here we go. Where Colin was right, well, I

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Speaker 1: said the NIL is going to favor the Big ten,

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Speaker 1: major universities, rich alumni, massive endowments. Six of the sixteen

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Speaker 1: teams left in this tournament are Big Ten. They have

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Speaker 1: been thirteen and three in the tournament. Iowa, a middle

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Speaker 1: of the pack team, knocked off Heavyweight SEC Heavyweight Flow.

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Speaker 1: So the NIL is kind of what we thought it

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Speaker 1: would do to the Big ten, which has the wealthiest,

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Speaker 1: their sports teams.

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 1: Well, the Lakers are on a nine game winning streak.

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Speaker 1: Lebron's completely energized on the defensive end. I never thought

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Speaker 1: this team could even be remotely elite defensively, and at

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Speaker 1: least during this winning streak, their top five top six,

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Speaker 1: so It's hard to get stars, older stars to play

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Speaker 1: great defense on a nightly basis. But Lebron is going

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Speaker 1: above and beyond what is necessary. Luca's playing like an MVP.

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Speaker 1: And I'll take an L on this one. Where Colin

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Speaker 1: was right, I said the NIL would be great for

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Speaker 1: older coaches. Rick Bettino still alive, Tom Izzo, Rick Barnes,

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Speaker 1: Kelvin Sampson, Why, John Calipart Why because college or it's

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Speaker 1: recruiting now is much more administrative and less hustle. Rick

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Speaker 1: Pattino acknowledges he no longer recruits high school kids. He's

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Speaker 1: not going to AAU tournament. He's got no interest. He'll

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Speaker 1: buy the best players. And I think that's great for

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Speaker 1: the players because now you get all the wisdom from

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Speaker 1: the Izzo's and the Kelvin Sampsons and the Calipari's. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's always been a better coached sport than the G League,

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 1: Okay, in my blotchy bracket, I had Florida playing Michigan

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Speaker 1: World Baseball Classic is massively undervalued as a property. I

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Speaker 1: get patriotism, I get passion, I get big stars. Listen,

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Speaker 1: I don't get the Ravens having an eleven and a

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Speaker 1: Minnesota has not only signed Carson Wentz, but Kyler, Murray

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Speaker 1: What happens when you play at Ohio State, at Alabama

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Speaker 1: And with that, Matt Hasselback eighteen years in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: get to jaj in his second. I want to start

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Speaker 1: with JSM And I said, so, Seattle had a lot

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Speaker 1: of tough choices. They had to let go of some

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Speaker 1: really good players, and simultaneously they signed JSN to a

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Speaker 1: had to. And I said an hour ago, I said,

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Speaker 1: There is something to me, Matt, about Jsn's demeanor and

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Speaker 1: Just saying I'm gonna pay him a year a year

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Speaker 4: To me, now, I would take it one step further.

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Speaker 4: I think they knew a year ago that they were

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Speaker 4: going to do this deal. I think him and Devin Witherspoon,

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Speaker 4: if you're gonna pay him, you know, making the highest

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Speaker 4: about the elite talent on the field, But one hundred

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Speaker 4: percent you're also talking about is this guy gonna change?

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Speaker 5: What's he gonna be like once he gets paid?

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Speaker 4: Is he still going to be the leader that we've

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's to me, he's top five ever in

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Speaker 4: which is wild to say, considering how productive he's been

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Speaker 1: McVeigh is a culture guy. That stuff drives him nuts.

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Speaker 1: we just we don't step in it. And Puka's been

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Speaker 1: heat from Pukah's agent to the Rams is well, look

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when you do these when you do these contracts,

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Speaker 4: it's all about comparables.

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Speaker 5: It's very similar to selling a house.

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Speaker 4: You know, this house on the market sells for this

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Speaker 4: those little I don't know, blemish is on your resume,

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Speaker 4: You're mentioning he stepped in it a couple of times.

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Speaker 4: These are headaches, and I just think that you know

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Speaker 5: It's different for every player.

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Speaker 1: still here. Maybe I wasn't. I like Jayalen Wadle good player,

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Speaker 1: a Sean Payton move. It's like Sean's like we're getting him.

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Speaker 1: I've got the juice in the building. Are you worried

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Speaker 1: Did you like the move?

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Speaker 4: No, because I trust Sean Payton, you know, and I

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Speaker 5: And you got to remember.

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Speaker 4: Too, like when you have a young quarterback, you don't

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Speaker 4: So I actually think this is a good move, And

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Speaker 4: if you're ever one on one with that guy green Light,

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Speaker 4: But if it's ever one on one, that really and

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Speaker 2: Okay, I got it.

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Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, so are you How is your j Max?

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Speaker 1: How is your bracket? Are you still croshing in this thing?

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Speaker 1: but Lebron spends plenty of time on the phone, and

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Speaker 1: you know he is fully aware. You know, Michael Jordan

433
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Speaker 1: later in his career, needed you know, he used to

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Speaker 1: cut out articles and make sure, you know, you kind

435
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Speaker 1: of create villains and create critics because it motivates you.

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes you forget. You know, It's one thing

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Speaker 1: if you're a pitcher in baseball and you're an older

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Speaker 1: veteran pitcher Adam Wainwright justin Verlander. You know you're starting

439
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Speaker 1: once a week. You got you know, you got seven innings.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's easy to stay focused. But you're you know,

441
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Speaker 1: you go on a six game road trip, You're Lebron James,

442
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Speaker 1: You're playing a bad team. What gets you up? You know,

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Speaker 1: you can't go out in public if you're Lebron, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, dark shades and into movies with Luca Dantage.

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Speaker 1: Good luck hiding from the public. So you sit around

446
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Speaker 1: wait for the game, and what gets you motivated? Playing

447
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Speaker 1: in a city you don't want to be in. You

448
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Speaker 1: miss your family, you miss your kids. So for Lebron James,

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Speaker 1: I mean his to be this into it, I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's it's almost like an obsessiveness. Brady had it that

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Speaker 1: it's just hard to quantify, like some people just care

452
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Speaker 1: so much. But it's really impressive. Lebron at this age

453
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Speaker 1: is really I mean, it's it's very much being like,

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Speaker 1: what does the team need from me?

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Speaker 2: Guy?

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Speaker 1: You just don't get that from superstars in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: You know they'll take their shots. But you know he

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Speaker 1: has committed both ends of the floor right now, and

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Speaker 1: he deserves praise for it. Jmack with the news.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, this is the headline news.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's go back to the tournament real quick.

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Speaker 6: Saturday night, while you were boozing it up on island time,

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Speaker 6: there was a hell of the game between Vanderbilt and Nebraska.

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Speaker 3: Game of the tournament for sure, Colin.

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Speaker 6: This half court shot went halfway down and out Tyler Tanner,

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Speaker 6: who is an unbelievable young kid at Vanderbilt. That kid

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Speaker 6: has star written all over him. I've never seen a

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Speaker 6: shot go halfway down from that distance and out.

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Speaker 3: And I mean, they win the game if that goes in.

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Speaker 6: And that's got to be an all time top five

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Speaker 6: March madness, Miss say.

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Speaker 1: You have this, Nebraska, a football school is suddenly really

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Speaker 1: good in basketball. Indiana, a basketball school is now great

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Speaker 1: in football. A nil changes all sorts of realities. And

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Speaker 1: the second thing is it shows how valuable coaching is

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Speaker 1: at the college level. Like in the NBA, how much

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Speaker 1: does coaching matter, Well, it matters, but there's limitations. It's

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Speaker 1: a star driven league in college basketball and college football.

479
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Speaker 1: The coach he's your star, he's your quarterback. And you know,

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Speaker 1: look at Indiana football and Nebrasca basketball. It's I love

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Speaker 1: the new landscape. You just have no idea who's going

482
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Speaker 1: to get good. What booster steps up?

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Speaker 6: Well, yay, just pick a Big ten team, right, Big ten.

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Speaker 6: Nebraska comes out of nowhere and hoops. By the way,

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Speaker 6: the Nebraska women's volleyball team was incredible, drawing hundreds of

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Speaker 6: thousands of fans, undefeated for much of the season. And

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Speaker 6: then Vanderbilt remember the football the quarterback Pavia goes to

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Speaker 6: the Heisman ceremony, and now Vanderbilt basketball is making runs

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Speaker 6: in the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 1: Well, Vanderbilt a very wealthy private school who's graduates on average,

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Speaker 1: I think the median incomes like two hundred grand, which

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Speaker 1: is the highest easily in the SEC. So it's not

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Speaker 1: a shock in the nil era that Vanderbilt is what

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Speaker 1: is going to be going forward able. I mean, all

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Speaker 1: you Vanderbilt commodore grad this is your moment. Some of

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Speaker 1: this nil. Stuff may not last forever, So this is

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Speaker 1: your moment to commit and you know, be good alumni.

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Speaker 6: Bunch of CEOs, right, And I mean, I don't want

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Speaker 6: to knock the SEC but you always talk about the

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Speaker 6: guys who have a couple of car dealerships, you know, and.

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Speaker 3: They're the big donors and Big ten country.

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Speaker 1: Is just it's it's Larry Ellison, you know who, I

503
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Speaker 1: mean literally owns like paramount. Like that's honestly, what's happening here?

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Speaker 1: You got billionaires in the Big Ten. You know, Mark

505
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Speaker 1: Cuban can write a fifteen million dollar chest and it's

506
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Speaker 1: not he made more on dividends last month than that.

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Speaker 1: So I just think it's a different reality. And I

508
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Speaker 1: like the idea that the schools with you know, great education,

509
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Speaker 1: wealthy alumni, they have a chance against football factories. Now,

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Speaker 1: I mean, how many how many Alabama and Natties do

511
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Speaker 1: I need to see? It's awesome to see Indiana win one.

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Speaker 3: Let's move on to the NBA Colins. Bizarre result this weekend.

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Speaker 3: The Boston Celtics lost to the Minnesota Timberwolves. And by

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Speaker 3: the way, no Anthony Edwards bones Highland. They dusted him off.

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Speaker 6: He had twenty three points and Jalen Brown not thrilled

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Speaker 6: with the loss. Here I'll tell you why this is

517
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Speaker 6: a big, big deal. Right after the Jaylen Brown floats

518
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Speaker 6: here we go.

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Speaker 8: Their physical they're quite shas there, definitely up the level

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Speaker 8: of ethicity and we didn't unnecessarily meet the challenge.

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Speaker 2: So that's what the story of the game walls out.

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Speaker 8: We got to be better and we all to be

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Speaker 8: gaged that and that's you know, on characteristic of Legibi.

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Speaker 8: You know, usually our playing team and tonight, in a

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Speaker 8: sorta word.

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Speaker 1: It's a long season. Well, I can remember Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 1: I could be wrong on this, but the Jordan Bulls

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Speaker 1: go look this up. I remember them losing. I believe

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Speaker 1: I'm right. To the expansion Toronto Raptors. I mean, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: but it happens where the you know, we've always seen

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Speaker 1: these teams. You go down to Miami, you know, in

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Speaker 1: the winter in the NBA, and all of a sudden,

533
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Speaker 1: it's like, well what happened. The guys didn't quite show up.

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Speaker 1: That's because the guys were having a good time last

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Speaker 1: night in South Beach. It happens.

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Speaker 3: So this is why it's a big one.

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Speaker 6: Minnesota's jockey to stay out of the play in without

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Speaker 6: Anthony Evarts. That's tough, but it's bigger. In the East column,

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Speaker 6: the Celtics are only.

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Speaker 3: A half game up on the Knicks for the two seed.

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Speaker 6: The two seed would play the three in the second

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Speaker 6: round and get home court advantage. So that's a huge

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Speaker 6: loss for my Knicks, who have peeled off six in

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Speaker 6: a row, and they're breathing down Boston's neck. So Boston

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Speaker 6: had home court last year, it didn't matter the Knicks

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Speaker 6: beat remember those Shockers in the first two games. I

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Speaker 6: do believe that the way these teams end the season

548
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Speaker 6: is huge. Remember last year the Timberwolves column went seventeen

549
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Speaker 6: and four ahead of the playoffs, steamroll the Lakers in

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Speaker 6: the first round.

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Speaker 3: So getting hot at the right time.

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Speaker 6: Remember the New York Giants in the NFL come in

553
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Speaker 6: as a wildcard team, but they're hot and then they

554
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Speaker 6: go and win the Super Bowl. I think there's something

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Speaker 6: to that, like late season hotness.

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Speaker 3: Are you buying that?

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Speaker 1: No, I'll tell you what I'm buying. The staff are

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Speaker 1: amazing staff. The Raptors went twenty one in sixty one

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Speaker 1: in their first season nineteen ninety six fans, including a

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Speaker 1: one point win over the Bulls in late March. What

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Speaker 1: is it today, late March? Welcome to the NBA where

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Speaker 1: teams that already kind of feel like they've got their

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Speaker 1: seating close. Yeah, you're not getting the greatest effort.

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Speaker 3: You're basically the bronzed version of rain Man when it comes.

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Speaker 1: To Jay scoring thirty six points and they couldn't be

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Speaker 1: the twenty one and sixty one turn to rafteror.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jordan beating up on a bunch of plumbers north

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Speaker 3: of the border. Well done, Michael. All right, let's move on.

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Speaker 3: Final story. Let's go to the NFL Draft. Very interesting stuff.

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Speaker 3: So you know you put your stake in who you believe.

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Speaker 6: I've been a long term guy on Daniel Jeremiah. He's

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Speaker 6: often right. He's plugged in. Colin, keep an eye on this.

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Speaker 6: He is speculating on the Rich Eisend show that keep

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Speaker 6: an eye on the La Rams potentially making a move

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Speaker 6: on grabbing Jeremiah Love the Notre Dame running back, here

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Speaker 6: we go.

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Speaker 9: The most fun example is if we are the let

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Speaker 9: me just run through this little scenario was looking at

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Speaker 9: the other day. So if you are, if you are

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Speaker 9: the Rams, I mean everything screams all in right. I mean,

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Speaker 9: what they're doing screams they're going for this thing right now,

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Speaker 9: you're this close, you're a drop pun away. You've already

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Speaker 9: gone out and you've got McDuffie. What if there's a

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Speaker 9: world in which you can move up in this draft

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Speaker 9: to go take Jeremiah Love, to put in your backfield

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Speaker 9: as your finishing piece, to give you somebody that's just

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Speaker 9: talented as Todd Gurley what they had early on in

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Speaker 9: the McVeigh years.

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Speaker 1: Now, I don't get that. They've got kyn Williams, had

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Speaker 1: a great year. They just signed him. Blake Korum is

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Speaker 1: a smaller but a nice off speed pitch. I don't

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Speaker 1: really get that.

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Speaker 6: So let me stitch a couple things together and following

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Speaker 6: the breadcrumbs in draft season super fun. So Jeremiah previously

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Speaker 6: speculated McKayle lemon number us e oh Rams and mckaye Lemon.

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Speaker 6: We just heard that the Rams were trying to maybe

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Speaker 6: trade for a J.

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Speaker 3: Brown.

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Speaker 6: Remember that the rumor, Hey we move off Davante, we

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Speaker 6: get a Brown. And now we're hearing Jeremiah Love. These

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Speaker 6: are three high profile offensive guys. I believe the Rams

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Speaker 6: clearly feel like the offense could use one last kick

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Speaker 6: in the button and it would be some sort of

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Speaker 6: jet fuel in the form of Jeremiah Love AJ Brown something.

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Speaker 6: So my mock draft coming out Wednesday, I'm going to

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Speaker 6: have an offensive skill player.

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Speaker 3: To the Rams falls.

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Speaker 6: Half of this battle for picking the mock draft, Colin

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Speaker 6: is following breadcrumbs. And when you hear stuff like this

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Speaker 6: like to me and you, oh, Rams, go get a

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Speaker 6: swing tackle, get some insurance for Stafford doesn't sound like

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Speaker 6: it sounds like skill position to me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I I don't know. I think when you have

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Speaker 1: a thirty eight year old quarterback getting the tackle position,

615
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Speaker 1: remember not only is Habenstein done, but the left tackle

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Speaker 1: had blood clot issues. Dude, I'm taking I'm moving up

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Speaker 1: for a tackle.

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Speaker 3: Well, I remember that Bears game. Remember that playoff game.

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Speaker 6: They couldn't they struggled to move the football, did they not?

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Speaker 6: I mean they needed overtime, They needed a Killer Williams

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Speaker 6: interception with DJ Moore cuts off that route.

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Speaker 1: But Kyraen Williams, I think has had three straight years

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Speaker 1: over a thousand yards. I don't think tight end running

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Speaker 1: back receipt Now they need another receiver to two Otwell's gone,

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Speaker 1: Whoka gets banged up. Davonte's like thirty three. I think

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Speaker 1: they need a receiver. It's not a great it's a

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Speaker 1: good receiver draft, but it's a very good early offensive

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Speaker 1: tackle draft. I don't know. I you know again, I'm

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Speaker 1: getting all these rumors. There's probably where they're smoke, there's fire.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah's very tied in.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'd be honest, there aren't a lot of like,

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Speaker 6: Carnell Tate's really good. I don't love I do too,

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Speaker 6: but he's not justin Jefferson Jamar Chack is that.

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Speaker 1: I think Physically, Carnell Tait is dude. He is one

635
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Speaker 1: of those rare guys that is a sophomore in college

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Speaker 1: look like a pro athlete. I think Carnel Tate's great,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, now again, McKay Lemon's very good,

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Speaker 1: but he is not the game breaker carneal Ta. He's

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Speaker 1: not physically Carneal Tait who can beat man and man coverage,

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Speaker 1: Whereas Makayle Lemon is more like a deceptive yards after catch,

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Speaker 1: strong hands, good return guy. Carnal Tait. I'd move up

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Speaker 1: for do you think Kyle Lemon I would not move

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Speaker 1: up for I just think he's terrific.

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Speaker 3: So remember Broncos looked at the draft.

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Speaker 6: Landscape, talked to guys at the combine, came back and said,

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Speaker 6: let's go get Jayleen Waddle. Patriots similar situation. Let's go

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Speaker 6: spend money and bring in Romeo Dodds. I just wonder

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Speaker 6: if this receiver class is not as superstar.

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Speaker 1: Lak, it's not great. There's one guy that is a

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Speaker 1: wow trade guy. It's Carnal Taate.

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Speaker 3: Is he gonna put up Malik Neighbors type numbers?

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Speaker 1: Remember names? I don't know, but I think he's much

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Speaker 1: more durable. He's a much stronger athlete than Neighbors. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think Tate's like, you know, he's like armor on

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Speaker 1: Saint Brown, like just like not much body fat, Like

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Speaker 1: like a guy that's going to be in a tremendous shape,

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Speaker 1: long durable career. That's my take on all right. Jmack

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Speaker 1: with the news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the

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Speaker 2: herd Line news.

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Speaker 1: And the other thing with the Rams, it's not a

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Speaker 1: good tight end draft at all. There's one that Vanderbuilt

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Speaker 1: everybody likes, but the Rams played all that thirteen personnel,

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Speaker 1: which is one back and three tight ends, so there's

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Speaker 1: not a tight end to move. Last year was a

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Speaker 1: great tight end draft. Colston Loveland Warren with the Colts.

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Speaker 1: The kid that went to Cleveland's a stud I think

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Speaker 1: from is that the kid from Bowling Green that was

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Speaker 1: a good tight end draft last year. There's that Kenyan

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Speaker 1: sadiqu from Oregon who is a you know, most tight

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Speaker 1: ends are up. He's like six' three. He's an He's

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Speaker 1: the kind of guy that would work in like Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: He's kind of a different player. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I'd move up for him, but he is. He is

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Speaker 1: a you can move him all over the field. He's

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Speaker 1: a really interesting player. In Chicago, it's the hood.

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Speaker 1: You know, one of the silliest things I saw this

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Speaker 1: weekend is Gonzaga lost second round to Texas, a big brand,

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Speaker 1: a lot of money, and it's like, I don't know

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Speaker 1: Mark Few. Okay, So I went to college right next

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Speaker 1: to Gonzaga, Eastern Washington University. We played Gonzaga. John Stockton

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Speaker 1: for the record, I was doing play by a play

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Speaker 1: on the college radio station, had forty two against US. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and they didn't get to the tournament. And when they

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Speaker 1: did before Mark Few, Gonzaga had three three tournament wins.

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Speaker 1: They have forty five since he arrived. Also, they used

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Speaker 1: to they were a slightly better than a five hundred team.

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Speaker 1: They didn't have anybody, you know, outside of Stockton sniffing

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Speaker 1: the NBA. Now it's an NBA factory, and they went

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Speaker 1: eighty seven percent of their games. The truth is he

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Speaker 1: had a great assistant coach who was his primary recruiter,

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Speaker 1: and that guy left a couple of years ago. He

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Speaker 1: went to Arizona and now Arizona's stacked, Arizona's roster stacked in.

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Speaker 1: Arizona's a great program, probably though you know, it's what

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Speaker 1: UCLA wants to be. I mean, the truth is Arizona

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Speaker 1: and to me, Gonzaga are the two best West Coast programs.

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Speaker 1: UCLA may have the biggest brand, but they don't have

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Speaker 1: the money. Mark Fuse made the tournament twenty seven straight years.

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Speaker 1: Mark Fugh's fine, but and this is the same thing

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Speaker 1: that happens to a lot of t Pete Carroll lost

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Speaker 1: his best assistance at USC and you know, quite as

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Speaker 1: good at the very last year, and so you know

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Speaker 1: it don't make much of it. Here's the new coach

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Speaker 1: of Arizona, Tommy Lloyd, on the new nil and how

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Speaker 1: it's changed everything.

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Speaker 10: Parody is great for the game, but things change, and

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Speaker 10: you know, I think once you know, finance has become

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Speaker 10: part of it, you know, you know there's gonna be

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Speaker 10: a there's going to be a breaking point for some

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Speaker 10: of the lesser programs. This just don't have the finances.

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Speaker 10: And I think that's just a just an obvious statement.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it really hasn't. I mean, Kentucky still has

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Speaker 1: a lot of money. But that Mark Polpe who was

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Speaker 1: good at BYU, he's a smart guy. And you know,

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Speaker 1: they didn't they didn't really have a point guard yesterday

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Speaker 1: and they got taken into the woodshed by Iowa. State

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Speaker 1: and didn't play very good defensively. A lot of this.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is why I say about Rick Patino.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about an all time guy in Rick Patino.

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Speaker 1: His team can't shoot and he gets the fourth team

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Speaker 1: to the Sweet sixteen. I mean, it's not like Kansas

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Speaker 1: shoots great, but Kansas has the number one player in

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Speaker 1: college basketball. Kansas shot a better three point field goal,

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Speaker 1: free throw, more rebounds, three times, the blocks, more points

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Speaker 1: in the paint, and Rick Patino won. Patino's as good

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Speaker 1: as anybody that's ever coached. So you know this stuff

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Speaker 1: is you know, that's why when Mick cronin complains about

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Speaker 1: nil money, let's play the Mick Cronin by Like UCLA

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Speaker 1: fans are like, let's get rid of mc cronan. Mixed

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Speaker 1: a really good coach, and he's not wrong here. But

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't think there's any coach in college

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Speaker 1: basketball that squeezes more juice out of his roster than

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Speaker 1: Rick Pattino. But this as people worked up about mc

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Speaker 1: cronin at u c L a big picture.

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Speaker 10: Wise, third consecutive season not getting to the second weekend

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Speaker 10: of the tournament.

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Speaker 2: I know, different seasons, different reasons, but do you feel

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Speaker 2: like anything needs to change with the approach or after

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Speaker 2: construction or the way. I have no right now, I'm

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Speaker 2: worried about tonight consoling the guys. We'll stay here in

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Speaker 2: the front row. I'd like about five more million.

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Speaker 8: There's my answer.

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Speaker 4: Jim Alexander from the Orange County Register watching Tyler on

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Speaker 4: the bench.

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Speaker 2: Not for.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's just not gonna land at UCLA.

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Speaker 1: He's already kind of been worn behind the scenes. And uh,

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Speaker 1: you know the other thing about the nil college. You

757
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: can't get too precious about this stuff, too touchy feely.

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Speaker 1: You want to win. Open up the checkbook. I mean

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Speaker 1: it used to always be in college sports people would

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Speaker 1: be like, well, you know, it's about the education. Do

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Speaker 1: you understand that High Point University won a game of

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Speaker 1: the tournament and they got sixteen thousand like applicants or

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Speaker 1: sixteen thousand people interested in going to the university. This

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Speaker 1: stuff works hand in hand Alabama for years. They're enrollment

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Speaker 1: skyrocketed during the dynasty with Nick Saban. So if UCLA

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Speaker 1: has always kind of struggled with that, well, we are

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Speaker 1: an academic powerhouse. Open the checkbook. There is no advertising,

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Speaker 1: which is you can equate to what UCLA gets being

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Speaker 1: on television with seven million views. You're playing Yukon like

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Speaker 1: the Duke of the Northeast. You know how many free

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Speaker 1: UCLA you know mentions you're getting on the air. Open

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Speaker 1: the checkbook. Plenty of money at UCLA. And what president

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Speaker 1: at universities and admission directors have discovered, not only do

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Speaker 1: you get all this free advertising and exposure, but you

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Speaker 1: get not only more students, but more elite students. Because

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Speaker 1: what a seventeen and eighteen year old kids want to do.

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Speaker 1: They want to have fun. I mean, even the academic

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Speaker 1: kids like Jamak, who were kind of nerds, they got

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Speaker 1: good grades. He was still wearing dual ear rings. He

780
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Speaker 1: was still I mean, I wasn't an academic guy. But

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Speaker 1: the bottom line is what a seventeen year old kids

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Speaker 1: want to do. They want to go to places where

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Speaker 1: there's like a social life. And so UCLA tends to

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Speaker 1: get a little like USC has no problem just saying hey,

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Speaker 1: football matters to US Clemson. Yeah, and by the way,

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Speaker 1: everybody goes, well, that's because UCLA is such a great school. Actually,

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Speaker 1: USC is caught up to UCLA academically because of people

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Speaker 1: have opened the checkbook. So if you get too and people,

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Speaker 1: by the way, is Duke a great university, yes, yep,

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Speaker 1: they're great in basketball. Is Virginia a great university? Yep,

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Speaker 1: they're great in basketball. Is Michigan Notre Dame or these

792
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Speaker 1: great universities? A solutely, Wisconsin's a great universe. Do you

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Speaker 1: want to win? Do you want exposure? Open up the

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Speaker 1: checkbook and you can't get precious and uncomfortable because Mick

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Speaker 1: Cronin's like, we need more money. They do.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well they were able to get dent in the

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Speaker 6: uh in the portal. Yeah, I'll tell you about off air,

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Speaker 6: the story about Mara who they lost. Uh, that's a

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Speaker 6: that's that was a tough one for for Mick. He's

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Speaker 6: not thrilled. Uh, but they're gonna I think they're gonna

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Speaker 6: be fine. They show him well yesterday. But you're right,

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Speaker 6: they got to spend the money.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, A condemn it. We're a power house. Show me

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Speaker 1: the money.