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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamsons

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is the Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson and this is the start of hour number two

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Speaker 2: here on the Drive. And as we've been doing all

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Speaker 2: this week, we'll take an early look at a fantasy

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Speaker 2: football position.

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Speaker 3: Other breaking down favorite movies that's later we got it

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Speaker 3: would have been Godfather one and two by the way, PPR. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: let's go tight End all right. I think it's a

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Speaker 3: pretty rich crop this year. Number eleven. Overall, this one

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Speaker 3: goes to eleven. Yeah, I don't know if I'm paying

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Speaker 3: that price.

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Speaker 2: Tight End one brock Bowers, and he should be. He

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Speaker 2: absolutely should have eleven, though I know we were just

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Speaker 2: talking off the air.

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Speaker 3: I mean when Kelsey went in was at his prime,

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Speaker 3: he was going eight to twelve ish, but the next

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Speaker 3: guy was going in the forty, right, and I don't

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Speaker 3: think Bowers is at that level after one year. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Kelsey in his prime was a superstar, I mean, and

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Speaker 3: gave you a massive advantage. I can't I can't use

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Speaker 3: my first round pick on Bours.

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Speaker 2: At fifteen overall tight end two Trey McBride.

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Speaker 3: I think everyone on the plan will have those two

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Speaker 3: the top two. He didn't catch touchdowns, but that's correctable. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's not like he's incapable of catching touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: Oh maybe he is, Maybe it is. I mean Julio

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Speaker 3: didn't catch him any There's a couple of guys in

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Speaker 3: history of them have don't have a lot of touchdowners.

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Speaker 2: At thirty two overall tight end three is George Kittle.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a line after the top two. I

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Speaker 3: think Kittle gets aided by the receiver movement. I yuke

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Speaker 3: being out. It's pretty safe, but where's he going over it?

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Speaker 2: But it's thirty two.

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Speaker 3: Two, there's gonna be five bad weeks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's always so much hit and miss there

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Speaker 2: for me to take him at thirty two.

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Speaker 3: He's better at football than fantasy than he always has been.

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Speaker 3: And I don't think I'm taking the third tight end period.

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Speaker 3: There's other guys I can live with later.

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Speaker 2: At fifty six. Tight end for is Sam Laporta.

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Speaker 3: He was a little too touchdown depend in his first year,

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Speaker 3: came back to earth, but then he finished real strong.

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Speaker 3: But then he lost his coordinator.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, still has his quarterback though.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think I have a problem with him

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Speaker 3: at four and he can make an argument.

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Speaker 2: For three sixty six at tight end five. TJ. Hawkinson.

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Speaker 3: I like that he's a year removed from the injury. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I know that the quarterback change, but that's a really

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Speaker 3: good rich environment for offense to me.

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Speaker 2: At seventy seven, tight end six, John new Smith, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think he's real. That was my guy. It was

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Speaker 3: my sleeper last year, got him the last round to

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Speaker 3: like every.

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Speaker 2: Draft, and then cut him.

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Speaker 3: I didn't want you, Yeah on league I did. I

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Speaker 3: would have been like every dynasty le He did nothing

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Speaker 3: for like the first eight weeks, right, and now he's

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Speaker 3: like their number three receiver. I don't know that I'm

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Speaker 3: that on board though, I mean, like long term, if

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Speaker 3: you if you can give him a last round, I

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Speaker 3: was excited about it. I don't know I'm gonn take him

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Speaker 3: at tight end six.

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Speaker 2: Tight end seven at seventy eight were so right after him,

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Speaker 2: Colston Loveland.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I like that he's ahead of Warren. He's still

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Speaker 3: gonna be fightings and rookie tight ends don't do much.

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Speaker 3: Bowers aside obviously.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's not like it's he was the only

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Speaker 3: I mean, Pitt's was good as a rookie, but historically

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Speaker 3: rookie tight ends or I'm not even close to that.

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Speaker 2: On love one at eighty eight, tight end eight, Travis Kelcey,

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Speaker 2: there's no way he's going to last in anybody's draft

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Speaker 3: Eighty eight, right, his ADP is fifty seven. Really, he's

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Speaker 3: going to be in in the red zone. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean he might not play. It's probably closer to who

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Speaker 3: he is though. It's tight end is tight. Yeah, he

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Speaker 3: may end up finishing there.

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Speaker 2: You might draft him as he getting end up getting

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Speaker 2: drafted though, is like tight end five or tight end four?

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Speaker 2: What would you say on a name value?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't think there's especially early in the year.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he'll be out there a time. What

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Speaker 3: would you set is over under touchdown receptions at though

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Speaker 3: half was the number. I was in here thinking that

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Speaker 3: it would be fair that you get fifty people fifty

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Speaker 3: and in the tight end world that goes a long way.

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Speaker 2: Where they'll put my quarterback and running around the.

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Speaker 3: Road, they'll do something weird them right right right.

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Speaker 2: At ninety four overall tight end nine Mark Andrews.

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Speaker 3: I'm still buying at that price.

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Speaker 2: I suppose it nine.

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Speaker 3: That's not terrible, right, I mean, he's been top five

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Speaker 3: most of his career. I don't think he got bad

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden. I know he dropped the ball

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Speaker 3: and is in the doghouse, but I'll buy him at

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Speaker 3: that Poyeah threats right, which is bonkers, but I think

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Speaker 3: he is going to be back this year though.

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Speaker 2: Pick one ten tight End ten is David and Joku.

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Speaker 3: The quarterback situation is so weird, but they do feature him,

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Speaker 3: and I think that's a Stefanski thing.

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Speaker 2: I just don't trust him.

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Speaker 3: No, he drops a lot of balls and stuff, but

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Speaker 3: he's good after the catch. The receivers aren't real scary.

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Speaker 3: I think they'll be losing a lot of games if

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Speaker 3: I if I'm going, if I'm punting on tight end,

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Speaker 3: I get him in the ninth or tenth round or whatever.

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Speaker 3: Is that about where.

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Speaker 2: He's going one ten?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I'm okay with it.

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Speaker 2: At one thirteen tight end eleven Tyler Warren.

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Speaker 3: A lot of mouse to feed in the passing game

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Speaker 3: and not a big pie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he look very very small, but he's a pot pie.

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Speaker 3: Bought bye and not accurate quarterback.

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Speaker 2: The packaging smaller now, so the popeye is not as

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Speaker 2: big as he.

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Speaker 3: Yes, very true. Are you willing to take that risk?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean they used a premium pick on him,

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Speaker 2: At one fifteen tight end twelve Tucker Craft.

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Speaker 3: I'll buy that.

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Speaker 2: I like that much better.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm saying the one list. I I like

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Speaker 3: this area a little bit better. I still have hope

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Speaker 2: At one sixteen tight end thirteen is Dalton Kincaid. I

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Speaker 2: heard he's weighing in at like two twenty eight now,

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Speaker 2: like he has lost a lot of weight and there's

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Speaker 2: more slot and I don't think they're particularly happy with them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. No, other receivers are slot ish. But maybe he

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Speaker 3: runs like the wind now, maybe he's gonna bulk up.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I haven't seen him, I haven't waited him. Bullseye.

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Speaker 3: He's been a little disappointing though.

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Speaker 2: At one seventeen tight end fourteen, Dallas Goddard.

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Speaker 3: He's deficially coming back. They restructured him.

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Speaker 2: Don't throw the ball on them.

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Speaker 3: As said, it's a three guys fighting for a small

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Speaker 3: pie again. Yeah. At one twenty he scores through the air.

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Speaker 3: There they're all rushing touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: One twenty tight end fifteen Evan Ingram I like.

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Speaker 3: That, Yeah, I mean, I think the Broncos and Peyton

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Speaker 3: have a plan for him. I trust Peyton. The other

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Speaker 3: receivers aren't super scary.

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Speaker 2: At one twenty three tight end sixteen, Barry Alvarez's grandson,

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Speaker 2: Jake Ferguson solid.

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Speaker 3: I always sell him short because he's not a premier.

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Speaker 3: You hate all the Cowboys tight ends, Yeah, because they're

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Speaker 3: all not great athletes. They don't have high upside. I'd

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Speaker 3: like to aim a little higher than the lead off walk,

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Speaker 3: you know, and they're solid.

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Speaker 2: He catches five balls every game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that Schultz is that way too, or

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Speaker 3: used to be, you know.

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Speaker 2: At one thirty four tight end seventeen, Kyle Pitts.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing what that's what he could be. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he could be a trade candidate that the deadline, his

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Speaker 3: contracts up. They're not going to pick him up. I

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Speaker 3: mean I might roll the dice on him on my

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Speaker 3: tight end two.

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Speaker 2: You could probably trade for him and just make him

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Speaker 2: your wide receiver two.

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Speaker 3: Right, I mean that's kind of what he is, kind

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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't get this one at all. One forty

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Speaker 3: Came on strong at the end from what I remember.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's a whole new rookie quarterback. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't trust it. No, I don't really trust it either.

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Speaker 3: He's okay, he's another undersized, pretty athletic dude, but I

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Speaker 3: don't think that's how they want to play.

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Speaker 2: One forty eight tight end nineteen Hannah Henry.

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Speaker 3: He's also pretty solid. He's your backup. Fine.

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Speaker 2: One fifty five tight end twenty Brenton Strange. No competition, right,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a sneaky one. Yeah, I'm gonna keep an

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Speaker 3: eye on that one. At that price.

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Speaker 2: To eighteen tight end twenty one Pat Fryar movie, I

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Speaker 2: would say he should be higher. He should be way

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Speaker 3: Right, especially if Rogers is quarterback. Yeah, you know he's that's.

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Speaker 2: Telling me, he's a lot more valuable than chig On kwonkwo.

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Speaker 3: Right, I think he's thirteen fourteen in that neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: You know, snaxt guy's pretty good. All there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of miles to feed. Tight End twenty two at two

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not bad. I'm sure he's getting pushed down with

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Speaker 3: the Buka pick and that's all well on good, but

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Speaker 3: there's there's not to be on the field. Yeah, he

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Speaker 3: doesn't have any competition at tight end. Right, Buka is

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Speaker 3: not a tight end, right right, Yeah, I don't think

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Speaker 3: that that's a problem at all.

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Speaker 2: Two twenty one tight End twenty three zach Ertz.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's not any more upside yeah.

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Speaker 2: Right, six catches for forty two yards right right, right?

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Speaker 2: Uh to twenty four.

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Speaker 3: And he has more competition this year than that.

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Speaker 2: Right. Tight End twenty four is Mike Gasicki.

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Speaker 3: Better for fantasy than the real world. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: they throw the ball a time, that's not terrible.

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Speaker 2: Two twenty six tight End twenty five is Isaiah Likely.

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Speaker 3: I would imagine his roles growing, but probably next year. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: At two thirty. Tight End twenty six is Dalton Schultz.

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Speaker 3: Fine, fine.

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Speaker 2: Two thirty four, tight end twenty seven, Juwan Johnson Nope, yeah, uh,

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Speaker 2: Mason Taylor is at tight end twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: Rookie. There's not a lot of competition there.

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Speaker 2: Sanders in Carolina is tight end twenty nine. I think

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Speaker 3: But so quick question for you.

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Speaker 2: He's another sneaky at two sixty four tight end thirty

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Speaker 3: Like in my dynasty leagues, I drafted the dude they

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, Pat Fryarmouth or Coleston Lovelin

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's in there good graces at all.

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Speaker 2: Right, you know, I certainly like I'm better on Conquo.

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Speaker 2: You can get him so cheap catches.

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Speaker 3: Right, you know. And he might not be my number

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Speaker 2: Okay, he's cheap, you're six for five.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's exactly we're talking trade. What about firemouth around

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Speaker 2: Deal, let's get to a break. That's the fantasy focus

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Speaker 2: for today, the tight ends. We'll look at some defenses

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Speaker 3: a fun conversation. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'm not wearing a kickers. No defense is

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Speaker 3: If we do kickers. I am embarrassing not even knowing

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Speaker 2: You probably wouldn't recognize the name of some of them.

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Speaker 3: It's an embarrassment of how little I know specialists.

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Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale LOLLI you're listening

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Speaker 2: to the Driver here on the Steelers Audio Network. Up next,

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Speaker 2: we'll take our listener questions Twitter Thursday Thursday. Right after this.

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Speaker 1: At least, he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is the Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson and it is a Twitter Thursday x Twitter Thursday.

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Speaker 2: That's got to catch on. It's got to be the

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Speaker 2: ex Twitter, right.

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Speaker 3: I think it lines up perfectly.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand why it's not right. I'm gonna I

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Speaker 3: This segment's been pretty popular.

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Speaker 2: It has been. We got a bunch of questions to

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Speaker 2: get to today. Of course, you can hear the Drive

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Speaker 2: every Monday through Friday right here on these very airwaves.

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Speaker 2: You can also well sometimes downloaded the Steelers appe on

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Speaker 2: their YouTube. No you know YouTube today Tyler Vittmeyer's off filming.

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Speaker 2: But otherwise we're right here in these very airwaves and

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Speaker 2: Paul asks, are they having Keanu Bent and focus on

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Speaker 2: since he is a defensive good question. I think they

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Speaker 2: because that's how the draft lined up for them. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they didn't, necessarily didn't. The nose tackle position is one

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Speaker 2: he's probably only going to play twenty five percent of

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Speaker 3: Right right, an old school run stuffer only guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just the way it is. Whereas Benton can play,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would love to be a fly in the

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Speaker 3: a nose or you an end? You know, Like I

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Speaker 3: I don't think that they all can't do everything in

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Speaker 3: I mean I think about that more and more after

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Speaker 3: But you lined up in the B gap at Iowa

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Speaker 2: Five inch arms right right.

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Speaker 3: I mean those guys will talk about, well, can he

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Speaker 3: he play a four I? Which is the inside shade

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Speaker 2: I had the conversation with Darius Alexander Or at the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm good wherever they know wherever I play at.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of what you're looking.

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Speaker 3: For, that kind what you're looking for, right, And the

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Speaker 3: we might see less of that. I mean, with Whatton

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Speaker 3: Probably easier said than done, But I hear what he's saying.

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Speaker 2: It's set up well for them to do that though,

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Speaker 3: If the season ends and you build your off season plan,

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna have a first round pick problem. You

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Speaker 3: Right, right, right, But you have a lot of cap

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Craig Ass. Do we know the exact milestones

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Speaker 2: Fields and Rust need to hit for their projected fourth

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Speaker 2: Is it only based on playing time for both or

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Speaker 2: will we know when the final Comppick slots are released

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Speaker 3: The best one is the guy who runs over the.

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Speaker 3: He definitely knows it. I don't.

439
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I know playtime is part of it,

440
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 2: but also how well you play is part of.

441
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 3: That's what I don't quite get. I mean, if they

442
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 3: go to a Pro Bowl by chance, is that a

443
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 3: marker or is it? Yeah that I'm not certain, but

444
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,159
Speaker 3: I do know playing time helps. Like if Wilson starts

445
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 3: the whole year, you're happy.

446
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, Fields is probably going to start the whole year

447
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 2: unless he gets hurt. Unless he's hurt because they don't

448
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 2: really have a viable backup, and you know that that

449
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,040
Speaker 2: could turn that into a third.

450
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly exactly. I don't think it could be less

451
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:04,920
Speaker 3: like if they don't play any steps.

452
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Steele. Warriors asked, do you got do you do?

453
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,879
Speaker 2: You both think the Steelers will do better this coming

454
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 2: season than last love the show. You guys and the

455
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 2: whole crew do a fait a fantastic job. Justin appreciates that. Yeah, yeah,

456
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,640
Speaker 2: better than the last Well, I mean they've gone ten

457
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 2: and seven in each of the last two seasons, not

458
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 2: nine and eight like a lot of people like to say.

459
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Speaker 3: I don't know that I'll pick them to win eleven games.

460
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,120
Speaker 3: We're not at that stage of the offseason yet.

461
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 2: Could they win a playoff game? Sure, they could have

462
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,440
Speaker 2: won a playoff game last year. Yeah, if they had

463
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 2: won one of those games down the stretch and won

464
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Speaker 2: the division and they had gone to play Houston instead

465
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Speaker 2: of going to play Baltimore.

466
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that wasn't that crazy of a chooser and adventure.

467
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Speaker 2: They might have been favored in that game.

468
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 3: I was thinking that too, because a perception would have

469
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,199
Speaker 3: been different. You know, as it sits here in the

470
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Speaker 3: middle of May, I'm not my official prediction is not

471
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,679
Speaker 3: going to be eleven wins and a playoff win. It

472
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 3: should be better than last year. But I think they're

473
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 3: a better team. I think I think they will.

474
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Speaker 2: They were a better team last year than they were

475
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 2: the year before that. I think they're a better team now.

476
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 3: I think they will be maybe not this second as

477
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 3: we speak, but I think when on opening Day, they'll

478
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 3: be better than they were last year.

479
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. Weird question. What time is it is the drive?

480
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 2: Because when I turn iHeartRadio on SNR at four thirty,

481
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 2: the show is not live.

482
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 3: Justin man, that's not Sometimes we record at four, sometimes

483
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 3: we record earlier. I after that it's out of our idea.

484
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 2: We do our part of the job and then who knows.

485
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, insight on that one, Yeah, I believe.

486
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, essentially it started early. Yeah, I was

487
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 2: I wasn't here yesterday, so we don't know.

488
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 3: Diming is not great to answer this.

489
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't always start right right. This one is uh,

490
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 2: they have a whole bunch of emojis here and I

491
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 2: have no idea what all that means. But hey, fellas,

492
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 2: could you take a few minutes to describe what qualities

493
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,360
Speaker 2: you think would be an ideal number two wide receiver

494
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: opposite DK metcalf Well, somebody who gets open that would

495
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 2: be a good.

496
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 3: I mean, I Brandy Moss or Jerry Rice. I mean,

497
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Speaker 3: if we're talking ideal, all right, if Larry wants to

498
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 3: come raight, you.

499
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 2: Know, I don't know if there's any one set that has.

500
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Speaker 3: To be different. I mean, I think they would have

501
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 3: been comfortable having two similar twin towers, you know, but.

502
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 2: That's not necessary.

503
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 3: I think I don't think it has to be that way.

504
00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 2: Ideally, you want somebody who is an outside received You're right.

505
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 3: The things I was going to say is, I don't

506
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 3: think that we have to pigeonhole it. But I don't

507
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 3: want a five eight guy unless he's really special. I

508
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 3: think I want an X that lines up and can

509
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 3: be man coverage as Metcalf can and as Pickens can.

510
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 3: And I want someone that's decent on over the middle

511
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 3: inbreaking routes, because I think there's this misconception that he

512
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 3: won't never throw between the numbers. No, the quarterbacks they

513
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 3: had don't throw between the numbers particularly well.

514
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 2: But everybody took that off of the game against the

515
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 2: Falcons last year in the opener when they told Justin Fields, hey,

516
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,719
Speaker 2: there are two safeties, like to take the ball away,

517
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 2: don't throw the ball over the middle.

518
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 3: Who was the head coach of the Falcons year before,

519
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 3: you know, right, knows these guys pretty darn well. And

520
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 3: Wilson Over's whole career has not been an over the

521
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 3: middle thrower. But go back to Arthur Smith, especially in

522
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 3: his Titan days, in breaking route to aj round, you know,

523
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 3: on the run off play action with Derrick Henry. That's

524
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 3: what they want, right, So I want guys with that

525
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 3: capability and some after the catch.

526
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I don't think that there's any have to

527
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 2: be this shape, yeah, right, or size or anything like that,

528
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 2: but they have to be again, you have to be

529
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 2: able to get open and you have to I think

530
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 2: speed would be a factor.

531
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Speaker 3: I don't know, right, Like I don't want Cooper Cop yeah,

532
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,719
Speaker 3: I mean right, that type of dude. You know.

533
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 2: That's why, you know, when we talked about some of

534
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 2: the free agents out there, Keenan Allen to me doesn't

535
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 2: not really.

536
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean his leadership would be nice if he

537
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 3: is a good leader. I assume he is. And yeah,

538
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 3: on third and eight, I might be happy he's out there,

539
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 3: but he wouldn't. I would take Cooper over a Cop

540
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 3: or over Allen, you know, yeah, style wise for sure.

541
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 2: R JS, How do you guys feel about signing a

542
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 2: guy like a Sante Samuel Junior as an insurance policy

543
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 2: at cornerback? Would even be a good fitness defense?

544
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 3: There must be some reason something was there an injury.

545
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 3: I think he has had injuries. I think I would

546
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 3: have to study the Chargers defense more. But I think

547
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 3: he's more zone than man. Yeah, I'm almost certain of it,

548
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 3: which I think they're trying to get away from a

549
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 3: little more. I think they want more long man coverage.

550
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: He's just not that he doesn't.

551
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 3: That's not what he looks.

552
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: Not a strong tackler, right.

553
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 3: I don't think he's a bad player. I'm shocked he's

554
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 3: not signed unless there's something we don't know about, which

555
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 3: there's probably something we don't know about, but his name,

556
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 3: if you take it out of the equation. I love

557
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 3: bargain shopping this time of year, though, you know, I

558
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 3: mean one year deal on a guy that's all of

559
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 3: a sudden thought he was going to get signed the

560
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 3: first week of free agency, didn't. Yeah, yeah, I mean

561
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 3: in pretty much any position.

562
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 2: Get him for three million dollars, right, right.

563
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I mean in general, I think you can

564
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 3: really pick up nights deals this time of year.

565
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 2: Uh, Heshan asked. So, when they talked changes, people thought

566
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 2: it would be with the coaches, but it turns out

567
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 2: it was a good percentage of the ross. Sounds to

568
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 2: me like they're taking a page out of Noole's book

569
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 2: by getting more self motivated guys leaders. I think it's

570
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 2: a good change. How about you, guys, I think it's

571
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 2: a fair assessment of that.

572
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Well, here's the thing that.

573
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 2: People needed to understand about. You know, you saw a

574
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 2: lot of I can remember the You know when when

575
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 2: Art Rooney the second was asked that his press conference

576
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 2: about he didn't change many coaches. A lot of those

577
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 2: coaches on the staff were new. Like if you look

578
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 2: at their coaching roster right now, people.

579
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 3: Don't think about the assistant turnovers, but there's a lot

580
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 3: of it.

581
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 2: There's been a lot in recent particularly in recent years

582
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 2: on offense. I mean they brought in a bunch of

583
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: guys along with Arthur Smith.

584
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, there were only a.

585
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 2: Couple of holdovers on the offensive side of the ball,

586
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 2: and they brought they brought it in the last couple

587
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,479
Speaker 2: of years. I mean, really, when you look at it,

588
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 2: new inside linebackers coach, the outside linebackers coach was in elevation.

589
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 2: I mean, how many coaches you got a new secondary coach?

590
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 3: Like it'd be easy to find out, but if all

591
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 3: their coaches that are employed at the moment, how many

592
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 3: have been there three years or longer?

593
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 2: It's about four. I know it's a low number, you know,

594
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 2: Carl Danny Smith. It's not much past that.

595
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 3: Right, It's it's a lot of It's more change than

596
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 3: you think. Yeah, but I do think the player thing

597
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 3: is accurate. I think it is, right, right. I think

598
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 3: that's one of the things they've been looking for here.

599
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 3: And I think you know, when we talked earlier in

600
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 3: the week about all the Iowa guys right right, right,

601
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 3: the guys who stuck with their program, guys who didn't

602
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 3: take the money and run to somewhere else, like and

603
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 3: the guys did take money one national championship yet, right.

604
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 2: And really I mean they had Will Howard had fulfilled

605
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 2: his four years at k State, he could have stayed

606
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 2: on the fiftyear.

607
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 3: I don't blame anyone for it, but going to Ohio State.

608
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 2: All right, Ohio State comes nack. Hey, you want to

609
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 2: come into this roster. We might have a chance to

610
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 2: win a national championship on the thing.

611
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 3: I'll go there for free if you're a baby too, right, yeah, right, no,

612
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 3: But I do think character, love of game, all those

613
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 3: things are being stressed as much as ever. Yeah. Yeah,

614
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 3: team players.

615
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 2: Matt DeCicco says the Packers are definitely an interesting trade

616
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: partner for Dobbs or Wicks for fourth or the fifth. Yeah,

617
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 2: would you be interested in doing that?

618
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 3: Well? I did a little more homework on this too,

619
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 3: And I've never spoke glowingly about Dobbs, but I think

620
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 3: he's fits the bill, and he's still pretty young. Rogers

621
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 3: does speak glowingly of him, by the way, which I

622
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 3: know Rogers history, and hey, heck, if Allen Wizard ends

623
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 3: up here, I understand. And I'm not in favor of

624
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 3: let's pull Randall Cobb out of retirement. He can't play,

625
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 3: But there is something to be said. And it doesn't

626
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 3: mean the inmates are running the asylum of your quarterbacks

627
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 3: played with this dude, right, if they were bringing Russell

628
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 3: Wilson back and trade for DK Metcalf, I would understand,

629
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 3: you know what I mean Like this, that's just logic.

630
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 3: It's not Oh, Rogers is running the show now because

631
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 3: you got somebody he likes well. He also knows a

632
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 3: lot about the game, right, and he's really a stickler

633
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 3: him in particular, you better be in the right spot

634
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 3: or he's not throwing you the football.

635
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 2: Dobbs rookie year twenty twenty two with Aaron Rodgers played

636
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 2: in thirteen games, seven of them were starts. He got

637
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: sixty seven targets, forty two catches for twenty five yards,

638
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: and three touchdowns. Like a fourth or fifth round pick.

639
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 2: As a fifth round pick yeah.

640
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,479
Speaker 3: Like, and they drafted a couple that year. Yeah, and

641
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 3: he stood out from the pack.

642
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: Oh literally the two years since he's he's head over

643
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: six hundred yards receiving in each of the last two.

644
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 3: Years in a crowded receiver room.

645
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 2: In last year he did that in thirteen games.

646
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, Like, I think we both prefer read.

647
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, I think reads about I think he's.

648
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 3: A really dynamic player that's vastly under If they're not

649
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 3: going to trade read, I don't think they're trade read,

650
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 3: but I think they would trade Dobbs. I do too,

651
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 3: And I think his last year.

652
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's in his last year. I prefer Dobbs to

653
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 2: to Wich. That's I was gonna say too, which is

654
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: a slot. Yeah, and he he doesn't.

655
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 3: Catch football very well. I mean maybe it'll be better. Yeah,

656
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 3: I mean he has some interesting traits, but I thought

657
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 3: I expected more from him last year.

658
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. I can remember watching Dobbs at the it's a

659
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 2: senior born. I'm like that guy's he's a big machiver.

660
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, he'll block Oh, I mean, yeah, he

661
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 3: would fit in fine.

662
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: One last year here before we get to a break here,

663
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 2: James Perkarski says, are there any truly? Are there truly

664
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 2: a few men in the planet that can play NFL

665
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 2: quarterback at a high to elite level. If so, why

666
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 2: is the college system failure, lack of my NFL minority leagues,

667
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 2: failures of the coaching system and fits tough combo of mental,

668
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 2: physical traits to find, et cetera. Is that are those

669
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 2: the reasons why?

670
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 3: Yeah? And I also think the bar is so high

671
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 3: that if there's only thirty two starters, sixteen of them

672
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 3: are always going to look bad anyway, you know what

673
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 3: I mean, Like in any you're.

674
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 2: Going to compare everybody. Okay, he's not Lamar, right, he's

675
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 2: not not mass.

676
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I do think there's I know that there

677
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 3: is certainly a graph where as your physical ability and

678
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 3: mental ability match that time when you're twenty seven to

679
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 3: twenty eight whatever is when you can maximize your powers,

680
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 3: and sometimes poor guys never get there because they weren't

681
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 3: good enough. I think a lot of coaching overhaul hurts quarterbacks,

682
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 3: like a.

683
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: Lot of change systems all the time, No doubt, your

684
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 2: offensive line stinks, and you know, there's all kinds of

685
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 2: things the factor into.

686
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 3: It, right, And I heard this story the other day

687
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 3: about Brady late in his career, like when he went

688
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 3: to Tampa that he wasn't happy with how he his

689
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 3: quick game, you know, like when when the blitz came

690
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 3: and he knew he had to get out in two

691
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 3: point one two point two and he was amazing at that. Yeah,

692
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 3: and still was able to throw the ball down the field.

693
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 3: That's when he started doing like the cryogenic chambers and

694
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 3: stuff because he didn't think his mind worked sharp enough,

695
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,959
Speaker 3: you know, Like, Yeah, I mean that's who you're can

696
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 3: heating against in order to be the best quarterbacks in

697
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 3: the world. Like, that's an amazing amount of dedication. Yeah,

698
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 3: I mean it's a really hard position. It's no doubt

699
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 3: about it.

700
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,919
Speaker 2: It's the hardest position in any sport to play.

701
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 3: I definitely think that. I don't know if you.

702
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 2: Not only have to know what your job is, you

703
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: have to know the job of everybody else on the offense.

704
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 2: You also then have to be able to read the defense.

705
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 2: You know all their jobs and know what they're they're

706
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 2: trying to do. In about ten seconds, Yeah, when you

707
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 2: step up, when you step up to the line of screaming,

708
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: you got about five or five to six seconds to

709
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: survey the defense and go, okay, this is what I

710
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 2: think they're trying to do.

711
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 3: And it's raining and the winds blowing and the crowds.

712
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 2: The crowd scream, and I got the coordinator in my

713
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 2: ear saying, hey, run this right, you know everybody else

714
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: and I'm checking. I got guys moving. I got to

715
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 2: get this receiver. Receiver doesn't know where to be the

716
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 2: wrong place right. Oh wait a second, that that guy

717
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,720
Speaker 2: over my left tackle. I don't think he can block him.

718
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 3: I know he can't. I just saw it on the

719
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 3: play before when he flattened me and my back is

720
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 3: killing me. Yeah, I know.

721
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 2: I came up looking out of my ear hole.

722
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 3: He's a nice dude. I don't mnd eat lunch with them,

723
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 3: but I'm not thrilled with them at the moment, right right,

724
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 3: And then the ball snapped and then at most you

725
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 3: get three seconds to put it in.

726
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 2: If it's over three seconds, you're getting killed again.

727
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 3: That's an awful right right, That's why.

728
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: It's I mean again, why you date the head cheerleader.

729
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 2: If it was easy, everybody would do it. Yes, I

730
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 2: always tell my baseball players that I'm like, hey, if

731
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 2: it was easy, and.

732
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 3: You may play really well, you may play your best day,

733
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 3: and the guy on the other sideline was better than you.

734
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 3: And you think in the world thinks you're not good enough.

735
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: You know, even when sometimes when you do things right,

736
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 2: it goes wrong. Oh yeah, think I think back to

737
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,479
Speaker 2: people said, well, Beanie Bishop picked off Aaron Rodgers twice

738
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 2: in that game against the Jets last year. He hit

739
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 2: Geron Wilson between the numbers, was one of them and

740
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 2: bounced away from him, and Beanie Bishop caught it. That's

741
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers fault.

742
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 3: Right. How many times does the receiver run the wrong route? Yeah,

743
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 3: they're not on the same page. Well, usually the quarterbacks

744
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 3: in the right book and the receivers not.

745
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 2: The quarterback helped write the book right.

746
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 3: Right exactly. You know, it's very dependent. And again, this

747
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 3: guy's got a block for me.

748
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, anyways, let's get to a break. We'll

749
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 2: come back with more questions when we return. He is

750
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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie. You're listening to the

751
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 2: Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network.

752
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: And at least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and

753
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: Matt Williamson on your twenty four to seven, Home of

754
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 1: the Black and Gold in Steelers Nation Radio.

755
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly. He is Matt Williamson,

756
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: and we're going through some or listener questions here from

757
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: the ex Twitter and steel Warrior fifty five says, what

758
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 2: game are you both looking forward to the most? M

759
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: the first one Ireland? Ireland's going to.

760
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 3: Be that's the low hanged fruit. Yeah, I would say

761
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 3: Ireland and Ravens. I mean I like them all right right.

762
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 3: I don't even know their schedule particularly great of who

763
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 3: I kind of pay attention of who they're going to play.

764
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 3: But once schedule release comes out next week, which should

765
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,919
Speaker 3: be this time next week, just done next week, will

766
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 3: then I really get to note better. Yeah, but that's

767
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 3: what it really makes sense, and right right, you know

768
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 3: we're really looking ahead. Yeah.

769
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 2: Uh. Ben Cohen asked, could you see the Steelers targeting

770
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 2: a wide receiver on their rookie contract I e. Jln

771
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 2: McMillan from Tampa Bay or less likely since they can

772
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 2: take the cap hit from a VET contract VET. Yeah, yeah,

773
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 2: I mean, but Dobbs would fit into that.

774
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 3: Dobbs is a good, good call. I don't know about me,

775
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 3: mel Len. He's a little small for me. Yeah, he's

776
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 3: a slot. He's a slot. Good good year. But I'm

777
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 3: aiming bigger than that too.

778
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, literally, and figure somebody with a little more experience

779
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 2: in that too.

780
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 3: You're right, right, right. I don't know if that solves

781
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 3: my problem, right, you know, but they do have the

782
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 3: cap space, which I think is one of their best

783
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 3: attributes for this situation.

784
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 2: Sure, what t Max is what are your thoughts on

785
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 2: the Steelers going after Sleigh and free agency over younger,

786
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 2: better defensive backs such as DJ Ward et cetera. Who

787
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 2: can help in the future and who both both are

788
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 2: your ideal? Who's your deal number two wide receiver two?

789
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 3: Now?

790
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: Thanks, love the show. So two questions there. Well, they

791
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 2: went after Sleigh because he had been released as part

792
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 2: of it, right, if you signed a guy like like

793
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 2: or any Dj Reid, that was going to figure factor

794
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: into your comp formula. And if you sign those two

795
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 2: guys in particular, you're not getting a third round pick

796
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 2: next year one hundred spensatories.

797
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 3: Which you could still weigh. I mean, I'd rather have

798
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 3: those two, but they're also a much bigger salary.

799
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 2: You know what, you wouldn't have as much cap space right.

800
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 3: Now, right, And I'm not sure that they didn't make

801
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 3: calls to those guys only signed with one team, you know,

802
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 3: like that, I'm not giving this guy a hard time.

803
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 3: And we also kind of did address to who the

804
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 3: number two receiver? You know, who you'd ideally, but you can't.

805
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 3: It's not always up to you who you sign, you know, like.

806
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,439
Speaker 2: It is free agency, they can sign wherever they want.

807
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 3: And I'm sure DJ Reid and Davis Ward had ten

808
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 3: teams interested or at least calling the agent, and four

809
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 3: that offered contracts. And when you go into free agency

810
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 3: for anybody, but you basically said, I'm in this neighborhood

811
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 3: and if you're gonna go way over it, I'm out.

812
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 3: You know, it's not worth it. Two, you know.

813
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: Archie Wilson says, question, what Green Bay Wide receiver would

814
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 2: you like the most if the Steelers were to make

815
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 2: a trade for one, Well, that one I would like

816
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 2: read rewind Yeah, essentially, what are your opinions on Dobbs

817
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:45,439
Speaker 2: and Wicks.

818
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 3: Well, we already did that, yeah, hit rewind from it.

819
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 3: I think it would be.

820
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 2: Read Dobbs Wis would be the guy that Yeah, yeah,

821
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 2: I agreed, Michael Odessa says, day, are you going to

822
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: rookie tryouts this weekend? Yes, well they're tryouts, Yeah, it's

823
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 2: rookie mini camp. Do you focus on specific players ever,

824
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: or just take a step back and get an overview

825
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 2: specific players? Are you planning on looking?

826
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 3: What?

827
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,439
Speaker 2: Who do you plan on looking at this weekend? Also,

828
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 2: it's pronounced. It's pronounced jack Besh, not Beck.

829
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 3: I've gone back and forth on it ish.

830
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you had it right for like a month and

831
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 2: then you talked me out of it. That's what happened

832
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 2: with that. You said, oh no, it's beck like and

833
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: it's bash. That's what I was saying all along to

834
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 2: begin with.

835
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 3: Because it looks like bash. And then I heard people

836
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 3: saying back and they were, yeah, you.

837
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 2: Led me astray. I do enough of that on my own,

838
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 2: just pronouncing these guys' names. I don't need you to

839
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: help me. H.

840
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

841
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: I'm at everything everything that they do in terms of

842
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 2: this particular process. Obviously, I'll be watching the draft picks, yeah, yeah,

843
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 2: and you know there'll be some other guys I'll watch

844
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 2: for stand ups with the overview type thing, but mostly

845
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 2: the draft.

846
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 3: It's it's not easy. I've never been to one of these.

847
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 2: There's sixty guys on the field, right, fifty of which

848
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 2: aren't down on NFL players.

849
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 3: Aren't NFL players, And if somebody stands out, great, But

850
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 3: running backs aren't breaking tackles. Yeah, I mean it's not

851
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 3: a great environment, don't really.

852
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 2: No, it's a football practice.

853
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're a diamond in the rough, it's still

854
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 3: hard to show up.

855
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. J Marsh says, with GP not here anymore, do

856
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 2: you think teams will go back to stacking and trying

857
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 2: to stuff the box more? I know the Seahawks didn't

858
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 2: face as much stack boxes but worked well against US.

859
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 2: But it worked well against us last year, thanks for everything.

860
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 3: Only two teams saw I less of a stack box

861
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 3: in Seattle last year. Now, they didn't take advantage of it.

862
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 3: They were a really bad running team and they drafted

863
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 3: into your line and Walker resarved blah blah blah. But

864
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 3: as currently constructed, I think you will see a lot

865
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: of stacked boxes. Yeah, I mean, I think there'll still

866
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 3: be a safety on metcalf side a high percentage of

867
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 3: the time. But that's part of the worry. Yeah, that's

868
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 3: why I hope they're not done.

869
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, John Stewart says, is game I.

870
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 3: Think needless to say game planning against the Steelers current

871
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 3: roster with pickings and without.

872
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 2: Think he's a lot different and it got easier. John

873
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 2: Stewart as his game well more of more than a

874
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 2: relief back. See any two back says with game well

875
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 2: could move into the slot.

876
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 3: I don't see that. I don't see he's more than

877
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 3: a relief back.

878
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: I mean I think he's If they were going to

879
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:25,959
Speaker 2: put someone in a slot, I would think it would

880
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 2: be Warren. Warren catches the ball well too.

881
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think his number three backs go. He's high

882
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 3: on the list.

883
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 2: He's pretty good.

884
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not just a special team or you know,

885
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 3: maybe an active on game day type. No, I mean

886
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 3: I think he brings.

887
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 2: More than that, beyond the Blitzys, who are the top

888
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 2: two to three wide receivers that are not free agents

889
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: that you'd love to see the Steelers trade for.

890
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 3: Well, I should mention this because on Twitter I threw

891
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 3: out a name of just like off the top of

892
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 3: my head, here's ten dudes, and we talked about him yesterday. Yeah,

893
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 3: boyd Bears fans get real mad at you and you

894
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 3: bring up DJ Moore and I kind of get it

895
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 3: because like they just signed him and it would be

896
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 3: a capit and all that, but they did draft, you know,

897
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 3: a receiver in two rounds in a row. He would

898
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 3: be my favorite. Yeah, trust me, the Bear's Nation or

899
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 3: whatever thinks there's no chance I got called a lot

900
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 3: of nations or a can all be nations whatever, the

901
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 3: Bear Cave, the Bear Den whatever. He would be really

902
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 3: high on my list. But trust me, you'd throw it

903
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 3: out on Twitter when you got a fire amount of

904
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 3: followers and you'll get called bad words.

905
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, he would be high in the list. Beyond that,

906
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 2: I mean, Christian Kirk was a guy that might be Yeah.

907
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 3: I mean, we've gotta talk about guys that are feasible.

908
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

909
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 3: I have mixed feelings on Tyreek. It seems like a

910
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 3: lot he.

911
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 2: Just got more screws pulled out of his wrist.

912
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 3: I know. Yeah, second one, and I think he would

913
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:02,439
Speaker 3: only cost you a third or fourth. But I don't

914
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 3: know what to think on that one.

915
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, yeah, Justin Porter says, to your knowledge,

916
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 2: are there any other extreme, extremely difficult personalities in the

917
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: locker room left? Or was it George the final one? Well?

918
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 3: I bet there's always extreme personalities.

919
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got seventy guys now in the locker room.

920
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 3: A lot of testosterone, and there's a lot of the

921
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 3: nature of the game. Doesn't sit there, cubicle.

922
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 2: You know the guy who's who's on the practice squad.

923
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: You better not be an extremely difficult personality. You're not

924
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 2: going to be on the practice squad. I don't see

925
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 2: that necessary.

926
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 3: I'm sure you like some guys better than others. I

927
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 3: would have to.

928
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 2: I'd have to go player by player and think about.

929
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 3: It, and we're not gonna be like this dude's and

930
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 3: a terrible human being.

931
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if there's an I don't know

932
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 2: if I know that one last question you're from. Joey

933
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 2: Bag of Donuts gets one in there every time. We

934
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 2: love that. Did a player ever get mad at you

935
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 2: for what you wrote about them?

936
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 3: Oh?

937
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, I bet it's happened many times.

938
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 3: I bet it's happened many times. I should tell a

939
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 3: real quick story that's kind of hilarious. Is right before Christmas,

940
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 3: when my kids were really young and I worked at ESPN,

941
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 3: Sanna goes around the neighborhood on a fire truck and

942
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 3: kids come run out and he gives them candy, YadA, YadA, YadA,

943
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 3: and Sanna and the fire truck are coming up my

944
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 3: street and my phone rings and they know the number.

945
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 3: An assistant coach from the Saints is screaming at me.

946
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 3: Screaming at me because I wrote a Viking Saints preview

947
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 3: that week about how Adrian Peterson's going to cause their

948
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 3: linebackers all kinds of problems, and apparently that article found

949
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 3: it on the Saints owner's desk, and this linebacker coach

950
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 3: got a real ear full about it, and he was

951
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 3: livid with me, like I'm going to find you, you know,

952
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 3: mean stuff. And I'm like, Sam is on the way

953
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 3: up the street and the in a fire truck. I

954
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 3: gotta go. And he he was like I didn't expect

955
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 3: to hear that. And I just clicked, you know, I

956
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 3: was like, I can tell you it was, but it

957
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 3: was like, this is crazy stuff, like how'd you get

958
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 3: my number? I didn't even ask how.

959
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 2: I can remember the first time it happened to me.

960
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,720
Speaker 2: It wasn't even a Steeler situation. It was my first,

961
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 2: my first full time job in the business, and I

962
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 2: was covering one of the local girls basketball teams who

963
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 2: would go on to win the state championship, and they

964
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 2: were in the district playoffs and they had just they

965
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 2: were unbeaten. They had beaten the snot out of everybody

966
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 2: that they played.

967
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 3: They were awesome.

968
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, all five of their starters I think played college basketball.

969
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 2: Their first player off the bench was a freshman who

970
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 2: would go on to play at Rutgers. Wow, like they were,

971
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 2: they're loaded, They're loaded.

972
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

973
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 2: And I wrote they were going up against one of

974
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 2: the quote unquote traditional power in the in the district,

975
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 2: and I wrote that if they got upset, it would

976
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 2: be an upset of biblical proportions. And I went to

977
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 2: the coach after the game, and you know, because I'm

978
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 2: talking to both coaches after the game, the team that

979
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 2: I said was gonna win won by like twenty five points.

980
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 2: And he goes, oh, you're that f dale lolly guy.

981
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 3: Huh.

982
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, I guess I saw what you

983
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 2: wrote about this upset of biblical proportions. I'm like, yeah, awesome.

984
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 2: I didn't appreciate that. I'm like, you didn't win, yeah, yeah,

985
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: you know right. And other instances I've I've.

986
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 3: Held a crystal ball, the game is going to go right.

987
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 2: But you didn't win, so it would have been you

988
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 2: lost by twenty five. It would have been an upset

989
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: of biblical if you guys were as close as anybody's

990
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 2: been to these guys all year long.

991
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 3: You can play a hundred times and it probably is

992
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 3: getting much better than that. Right, But I'm sure players have.

993
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 2: Oh I've had play. I've been talking. I was. I

994
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: wrote something about I'll say the player. It was a manual.

995
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 2: He got an opportunity to start in a game I

996
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 2: think is maybe a second year, and I think he

997
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 2: had like they were playing the Browns. He had like

998
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 2: three catches for thirty yards or something like that. And

999
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 2: remember before that he had been just a slot.

1000
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1001
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, his rookie year. And I wrote on my blog

1002
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 2: wasn't even in the paper. It was in my blog.

1003
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 2: It was at the time that I did from the

1004
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: Sidelines NFL from the Sidelines, which kind of started everything

1005
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: for me that he showed that he wasn't ready to

1006
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 2: be an outside, you know, a full time outside receiver.

1007
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 2: Yet he had three catches for thirty yards and it

1008
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 2: wasn't really a factor in the game the second season, right, Yeah,

1009
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,280
Speaker 2: So I'm standing here and I'm talking to Mike Wallace

1010
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 2: and we're two or three feet apart. We're having a

1011
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 2: conversation and Emmanuel Sanders comes walking and he steps right

1012
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 2: in between us, hits me with his shoulder and keeps walking,

1013
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 2: and Mike Wallace looks at me and goes me kind

1014
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 2: of a look, and I'm like, that was weird. Uh,

1015
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 2: we just kept.

1016
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 3: Talking pretty obvious. Yeah. Yeah.

1017
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 2: Then he came back through like thirty seconds later and

1018
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 2: did the same thing, and I'm and Wallace looks at me, goes,

1019
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 2: is he mad at you? And I'm like, apparently so.

1020
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 3: Wonderful. I remember I kind of wrote something not so nice, right.

1021
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1022
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 2: Another time, I had one of the backup safeties in

1023
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 2: a in a preseason game, and I can't I think there.

1024
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 3: I can't remember who they were playing, but they kept on.

1025
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 3: Must not have went on to do great things.

1026
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 2: He did not. They kept hitting this little ten yard

1027
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 2: pass right in front of him. The entire game. He

1028
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 2: gave up like ten passes right there in that same spot.

1029
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: And I said something about, like, you know, he didn't

1030
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 2: make a play the entire He made the tackles, but

1031
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 2: he didn't make a plan the entire game. Yeah, And

1032
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 2: he came to me. I was talking to some again,

1033
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 2: I'm talking to somebody else, and he goes, hey, do

1034
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 2: you know how Cover two's played? Like, yeah, I'm familiar.

1035
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 2: You said, what are what are what are my responsibilities

1036
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 2: to cover too? I'm like, okay, you know you can't

1037
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 2: let the ball get over your head. He said, So

1038
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 2: I did what I was supposed to do in that situation.

1039
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 2: I'm like, you are allowed to make a play on

1040
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 2: the ball after they've done it ten straight times?

1041
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1042
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 2: He's like, well what position did you play? And I'm like,

1043
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 2: doesn't matter.

1044
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 3: I'm not here to coach Cover two. Right, you could

1045
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 3: make a play on the ball. You can make a

1046
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:25,879
Speaker 3: play on the ball.

1047
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 2: Everyone like, hey, yeah, you had ten tackles in a game.

1048
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 3: Good for you. If Troy was in there, do you

1049
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 3: think it'll have gone the same way?

1050
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 2: Right?

1051
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, they might have.

1052
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,479
Speaker 2: They might have jumped one of those, might have broken

1053
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 2: one up right, got their hands on one.

1054
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 3: Like I read the tendencies that they were doing over

1055
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 3: and over and over.

1056
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, in a preseason game. You know they're not scheming

1057
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 2: this thing up, right, They're just hitting that play over

1058
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 2: and over again because you're giving them too much ground.

1059
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 3: Trust me, fans have said wave terrible things about on

1060
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 3: a daily basis all the time, much more so than

1061
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:55,240
Speaker 3: anyone I've talked about.

1062
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 2: You gotta have very thick skin in this.

1063
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I take some bay me at all. Right.

1064
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyways, that's going to do it for the show today.

1065
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 2: Some good questions there, but we will be back again tomorrow.

1066
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 2: We'll have some uh well maybe some observations to some

1067
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 2: degree from rookie Mini Camp, but I can't tell you, Yeah,

1068
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 2: I can't tell you exactly what went on on the field.

1069
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 2: But we'll get a chance to talk to say, Derek

1070
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 2: Harmon for the first time tomorrow, So maybe we'll play

1071
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 2: that back if we get some sound, We get some

1072
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 2: sound of that, and we'll see how everything else goes.

1073
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 2: But for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here

1074
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 2: on site keeping us on the air, I am Dale Lolly.

1075
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 2: We thank you for listening to this edition of the

1076
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 2: Drive on this Steelers Audio Network.