1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Native Lampod is a production of iHeartRadio and partnership with 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: Reason Choice Media. Welcome home, y'all. This is episode one 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty three of Native Lampod, where we give 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: you our breakdown of all things politics and culture. I 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: am your host today Bacari Sellers, joined by my illustrious 6 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: co host Andrew Gillam and the Angela RAI. Welcome home, y'all. 7 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: Feeling everybody, there's only one hey man, Welcome home. Welcome home. 8 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: You know what, my anxiety has been beating my ass lately. 9 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,599 Speaker 1: We got to talk about that. I'll say, what's going on? 10 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 2: Does it happen usually after like being a breakaway or. 11 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, go through these phases where anxiety just 12 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: wins the day. I don't know. So we'll work through that. 13 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: But this is therapeutic for me. Joining you guys, sitting 14 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: here with my friends and all of our listeners, we 15 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: are jumping right into our four year situational where awareness 16 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: also known as FAIZA, right, you know what we call it? 17 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 3: Yes, FYSA, you guys call it FISA, but you know 18 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 3: have security background, it's not but carry on. 19 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: So we haven't been able to have a lot of 20 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: good news on this show when it comes to the 21 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: state of politics. So we wanted to start the show 22 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: right now with some good news. Some it's like unsweet 23 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: good news, but we'll take it. My home state of 24 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: South Carolina, Republican state senator is actually voted to block 25 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: the new map that came in from Washington, d C. 26 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: Attempting to eliminate the seat of none other than Jim Clyburn. 27 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: Can you imagine Congress without Jim Clyburn in it anyway? 28 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: On May twenty seventh, Government Master said President Trump needs 29 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: a Republican Congress to continue pursuing conservative policies that make 30 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: our nation stronger. I am confident that one day South 31 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: Carolina's congressional delegation will be completely Republican. I am disappointed 32 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: that day has not yet come. Listen, people forget that 33 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: South Carolina sometimes is too big for an asylum and 34 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: too small for state. And we marched the beat of 35 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: our own drummer. But shout out to those senators who 36 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: actually showed some backbone. In Alabama. This is kind of 37 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: funny or funky because in Alabama, Federal District Court has 38 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: blocked their new congressional maps after finding that they intentionally 39 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: discriminated based on race. That case, it will ultimately be 40 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: decided by the Supreme Court. And right before we were 41 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: coming on, our great producer Nick just told us that 42 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: we got a news alert that Alabama, of course, is 43 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: asking the Supreme Court to overturn this ruling expeditiously. In 44 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: the words to my brother Ti, and. 45 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: But allright, real quick, I know you're pushing to the 46 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 2: next one. But that three judge panel, two of those 47 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 2: damn judges were appointed by Trump himself. 48 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: Correct. I don't know. The Supreme Court may surprise us. 49 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: They won't. 50 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: I don't think so. 51 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: Moving down to Florida. 52 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 3: You know it would be a surprise. But once Clarence 53 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 3: Thomas realizes that he is a black man in America. 54 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 2: Oh, get out of here. That ain't happening. 55 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 3: Girls, Okay listening. 56 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: I mean, don't the world are you living in the 57 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 1: only way? 58 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 3: Hopeful one, I have a dream one day this man. No, 59 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 3: he's still nigga, That's what I'm I mean. Anyway, move on. 60 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: The only way Clarence Thomas, the only way Clarence Thomas 61 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: will ever come home is if they try to overturn 62 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: loving and then he might have a come to Jesus, or. 63 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 3: He might, he might not. I just this is your 64 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 3: annual reminder that Clarence Thomas still has a stun named 65 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 3: Jamal carry on. 66 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: Moving down to Florida, uh uh, Andrew Gilliam's home state, 67 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: where a Florida judge has refused to block a new 68 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: congressional map that could gain four new seats in the House. 69 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: Like Alabama, the legal battle is ongoing. What should we 70 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: know about that map? Andrew? I know this was my meme, 71 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: but is there anything that know about it? 72 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: The truth is is that this is sort of the 73 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: second wave of what we have already had to deal with. 74 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: He first eliminated single handedly two black access seats from 75 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: our congressional delegation. One you previously held by a Congressman 76 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 2: Al Lawson, the other one previously held by a Congresswoman 77 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: Val Demings. And you know what, the attack on black 78 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: folks in the black vote in this state continues. And 79 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: I think further frustrating this is the fact that one 80 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: of the black access seats that have been newly created, 81 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: it actually previously was a full on black access seat 82 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 2: down in Brower County, is actually now going to pit 83 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: the many black candidates that are running for that seat 84 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 2: against long term Congresswoman Debut Watserman Schultz. And there was 85 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 2: a big activation down south to try to get her, 86 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: persuade her not to run in that seat, and of 87 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: course she decided for herself she was gonna run for 88 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 2: that seat. And so you'll have a lot of black 89 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: candidates and have Debbie. 90 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 3: I just have to say something about this. Yeah, no, 91 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: it's Florida. It's not twenty. 92 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 2: I thought you were talking about is it up? 93 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: No? No, no, is it? Is it congression? I was trying 94 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 1: to figure out which one it is. 95 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 3: It's the twentieth congressional district. So she's running in what 96 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 3: was well, it's still she No, she's actually stepped down. 97 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 3: So she looks see a shift shurfless McCormick. She is 98 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 3: previously Congressman al Sea Hastings. See now I'm about to 99 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 3: go rogue here real quick. There are a lot of 100 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 3: black candidates in the seat. But I just want to 101 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 3: tell Debbie you're wrong as two left shoes. The reason 102 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 3: for that is you are bought, paid, and sold by 103 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 3: APAX and you have not said word the first on 104 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 3: any of these voting rights challenges. You haven't said word 105 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 3: the first on any of the attacks in any other 106 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 3: states except for Florida, where you are are obviously self 107 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 3: it's a self served interest, and I just I think 108 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 3: that this is so awful to watch all of these 109 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 3: black folks and into democracy so you can run for 110 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 3: whatever seat you want to run for. My vote would 111 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 3: be for Andrew Gillham to move up south or down 112 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 3: south a little further and running in this area. I 113 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 3: just don't know who else is gonna save it. And Andrew, 114 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell people something they may not know. That 115 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 3: is what Congressman Hastings would have wanted. So I'm just saying, 116 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 3: as Debbie Wasserman Schultz watches Apak not say shit about 117 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 3: any of the voting rights challenges that black people are facing, 118 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 3: go into this seat, run for this seat when you 119 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 3: don't even represent the best interest of people who need 120 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 3: to exercise their franchise. You are wrong as hell. I 121 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 3: told you on Twitter and now I'm telling you here wrong. Andrew. 122 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: I hope you run. 123 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: You know the reason I mentioned CD twenty because I 124 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: wanted to have some good news on the end of that. 125 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 3: I didn't know you was doing that. I'm mad about it. 126 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: She is fine, our good friend chev. I don't know 127 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: he's he sent me a text note that are. 128 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: You Are you breaking news right now? I don't know. 129 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:13,559 Speaker 2: I think the person hasn't declared, said her, Oh intention yet? 130 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 3: Yo, No, that's out. Okay, Yes, Wilson is retiring. 131 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, the rest. 132 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: I was just sharing the good news. I don't know. 133 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: I mean, did he he didn't tell me. 134 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: Let me read the text. 135 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 3: The text is not a press release. 136 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: He said, good morning brother, happy to okay. 137 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 2: Hey, hey, break the news. He must bring them on 138 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,559 Speaker 2: and then we'll let him break the news. 139 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 3: Let card read a text. 140 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 2: Now, Wendy getting in the private text? 141 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:53,239 Speaker 1: This one, this one, this one was okay, what is ahead? 142 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: If you play? Go ahead? This shell turn is me? Yeah, 143 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: Rashaan Kim. 144 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, so speaking of elected officials, quite pivot. This is something. No, 145 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 2: but you know, I'm in Florida, all you know, it's 146 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: a lot to be you know, to to be discerned. 147 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: But I will say, can you run? 148 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 3: Why won't you answer me? 149 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: What I will say is congressman, I'll see Hastings was 150 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: a big brother and an incredible mentor uh to me, 151 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: and and and some of the most challenging times that 152 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: I experienced in the race for governor. You know, he 153 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 2: was he was he was hands down, bruh. All you 154 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 2: had to do was say you were running, and I'm there, 155 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 2: and he was there, and he was there pretty constantly. 156 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 2: And I got to hear from him a few months 157 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: before his passing when he called and asked me to 158 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: call him back. And I called him back and he 159 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: told me I need to move to Florida and set. 160 00:08:55,720 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: And real quick after this show. 161 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 2: Uh. And I told him I couldn't, but he was. Uh. 162 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: He's a giant and I would love I was sad 163 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 2: to see that seat unfortunately represented by the previous member 164 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: and whoever you know, ends up throwing their hat in 165 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: the ring. I just hope they understand the significance of 166 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: the ground that they stand on and attempting to fill 167 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 2: his shoes. We need a real advocate for the community, 168 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 2: someone who's unapologetic, no excuses, No, I'm just saying, there 169 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 2: are a lot of people, by the way, a lot 170 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 2: of people down south. I don't think we're going to 171 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: We're not going to make lots of headway here, uh, Angela. 172 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 3: I just can I hope that I'll see Hastings visit 173 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 3: you in your sleep. Come on, friend, I do I hope, 174 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 3: I hope he visit you in your sleep tonight. Because 175 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 3: I'm just telling you this is we are in unique times. 176 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 3: I'm going completely rogue. This is my last ten seconds 177 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 3: on this. I promise we are in unique times. You 178 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 3: all are being so and you all are different type 179 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 3: of elected official. Have served, have served well, have served 180 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 3: the conviction I am telling you you are being drafted. 181 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 3: You can go to your next. 182 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: Clib father, bless us, hey man. Okay, some other news 183 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 2: to take in, y'all is the fact that, as we 184 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: all know, FIFA is coming to the United States. The 185 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 2: US is one of the host state countries for this 186 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 2: world wide global event, but one of the representatives in 187 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: the state of the Great State of Georgia, Rashaan Camp, 188 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 2: who is so far as I know, not related to 189 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: the sitting governor Brian Kemp, decided to release this video 190 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: on his social media calling us higher. 191 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 4: Hey, y'all, this is Senator Rashaan Kemp and I was 192 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 4: walking up Grass with coffee today and something struck me 193 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 4: almost to my soul. So right behind me sits the 194 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 4: stadium where the world was soon gathered for FIFA World Cup. Literally, 195 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 4: millions of people are going to come to Atlanta. The 196 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,479 Speaker 4: world will be on Georgia. They'll see our culture, our diversity, 197 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 4: in the cradle of the civil rights movement. But right 198 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 4: down the street from that stadium, under the Gold Dome, 199 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 4: right here, beginning on June seventeenth, Republicans are prepared to 200 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 4: strip people of their voices through Redistrict Team. So at 201 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 4: the same time that the world is coming together, politicians 202 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,359 Speaker 4: in Georgia will be fighting over whether black elected officials 203 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 4: lose their seats. And yes, this should make everybody angry 204 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 4: because too many people march, bled and fought for the 205 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 4: Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act of nineteen 206 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 4: sixty five for us to quietly watch these protections be 207 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 4: dismantled literally a few decades later. 208 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 2: So here's my call to action. 209 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 4: I believe we should march from the Capitol to the stadium, 210 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 4: or from the stadium to the Capitol, demanding that Georgia 211 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 4: stock harming black communities and stop silencing black voices. We 212 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 4: need people to register, vote, we need people to organize. 213 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 4: We need people showing up every single day that we 214 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 4: are in session, fighting alongside us, because this fight is 215 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 4: bigger than politics. It's about whether our communities still have 216 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 4: a voice in the future of Georgia. So stay tuned. 217 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: Will be sharing ways you can get involved. The time 218 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 2: to act is now. 219 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: I love that. 220 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 2: That's a powerful call to action, y'all. I guess we 221 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 2: could have played that during CTAs uh. But but it's 222 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 2: but it's real, and I do wonder how folks might 223 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: respond to that. I have a sense that the global community, 224 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 2: quite frankly, would be down. I'm curious to know how. 225 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: First of all, they wouldn't give you, know, they wouldn't 226 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: give you. It's gonna be. It would be a hard 227 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: task because one of the things they will do is 228 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: locked down. 229 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 2: They're gonna shut it. 230 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: They're gonna shut it down around around the World Cup 231 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: and getting a march permit or anything else, even if 232 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: you need one. I mean, it would just be they 233 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: would say no, I would have I would assume. I mean, 234 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: it's this is what. 235 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 3: Civil disobedience coming, protest protest. 236 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: I'm with you either way. 237 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 3: I'd like to have the world look at what's happening 238 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 3: in the United States, which is supposed to be the 239 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 3: land of the Free. I think it's really astonishing to watch. 240 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 3: We always talk about democracy being rolled back, but really 241 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 3: just our right stripped away and taking us back so far. 242 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 3: So I hope that they do something and obviously we 243 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 3: would stand with them. 244 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course that's the way to use That's the 245 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: way to use social media. Though, for those young elected 246 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: officials out there who you want to know how to 247 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: increase their presence instead of trying to go viral every time. 248 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: He's going to go viral simply because he said something 249 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: that touched his soul. That's going to resonate with the 250 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: culture at an appropriate time. So shout out to Senator 251 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 1: Rashan Kimp that. 252 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 3: Time is now. You see Andrew shirt, This is our time. 253 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: Right, Ala, Angela's on you. You wanted to talk about 254 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: somebody else making some moves. Although it's in a different 255 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: setting in a. 256 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 3: Courtroom, Yes, it is in a courtroom. The Supreme Court 257 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 3: actually made a good decision recently which is an anomaly, 258 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 3: and that was in the case regarding Brian Flores's lawsuit 259 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 3: against the NFL. Of course, he's been suing the NFL 260 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 3: for racial discrimination for a couple of years. He initially 261 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 3: filed a class action lawsuit against the Miami Dolphins, the Broncos, 262 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 3: and the Giants for discrimination and they're hiring practices. The 263 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 3: NFL has been trying to force a coach Flores into 264 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 3: an arbitration, but the Supreme Court said nah. However, Brett 265 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 3: Kavanaugh tried to say yes, and he was the loan 266 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 3: dissenter on this particular case. In this particular case, for 267 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 3: you all's recollection, I will flag for you that in 268 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 3: the lawsuit, Brian Flores allegis that Steven Ross, who's the 269 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 3: owner of the Miami Dolphins, offered him one hundred thousand 270 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 3: dollars for every game he intentionally lost. I wonder why 271 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 3: he would have offered him that, he said, of course, 272 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 3: he denied that. Also with the Giants, he said that 273 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 3: he was brought in for a coaching interview to be 274 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 3: the head coach in twenty twenty two, and they said 275 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 3: it was He said it was just to check the 276 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 3: Rooney rule box, which of course now they have gotten 277 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 3: rid of. The coach accidentally texted Brian Flores congratulating him 278 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 3: on getting the job, a full three days before he 279 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 3: even interviewed. Belichick actually said that he sent it to 280 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 3: the wrong Brian and he said that they were always 281 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 3: he was always in the running up until the very 282 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: last minute. It looks like that's not true. And then 283 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: lastly with the Denver Broncos, he said, John Elway and 284 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 3: Joe Ellis arrived an hour late to his interview and 285 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 3: they were sloppy, piss pole drunk. So he said that 286 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 3: the NFL is blatantly racist. It's all in and through 287 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 3: the culture. And now he's going to have his opportunity 288 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 3: to have his day in court. 289 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 2: Yes he should. And you know what else, just to 290 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 2: annotate further, is that in the state of Florida, the 291 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 2: Free State of Florida, they say, under rond DeSantis, the 292 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 2: attorney general who used to be chief of staff to 293 00:15:54,640 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: Governor Rondas Sants, is suing threading lawsuit against the NFL 294 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: as well. The Rooney rule obviously, frankly I think was 295 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 2: gone before it was gone, but essentially wanting to make 296 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 2: sure that there is no active discrimination against white men 297 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 2: who may apply for coaching positions thanks to the fact 298 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 2: that black candidates at least one would need to be 299 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: interviewed in an instance where there was a coaching position available. 300 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 2: Tampa Tampa Bay has pushed back on Altmeyer, which is 301 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 2: a rare thing to see folks sort of giving these 302 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 2: folks in Florida Republican leadership any resistance. But it's own. 303 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: I mean, it's on and popping. It's been on and 304 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 2: popping down here, but their racism screams. 305 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: One of the things that Angela talked about earlier in 306 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: a couple of couple of segments up are the number 307 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: of people who are running down in CD twenty in Florida. 308 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: This frustrates me to know end. I know it's a democracy, 309 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: and I know that everybody can run, but sometimes you 310 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: have to have a little bit of discernment. Mike Duggan, 311 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: the former mayor of the City of Detroit, launched an 312 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: independent bid although he was a Democratic governor, he launched 313 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: a I mean a democratic mayor, an independent bid to 314 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: be governor of the state of Michigan. And he said 315 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: he got into this race to change our politics, not 316 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: to be a spoiler. And because he saw the way 317 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: that was trending with him falling down and Benson rising 318 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: to the top, he dropped out of the race. The 319 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: reason I bring that up is we've had a lot 320 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: of places around the country where black folk do not 321 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: get in a room hash out politics, make a plan, 322 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: execute the plan, And because we don't do that, somebody 323 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: who does not look like looks does not look like us, 324 00:17:55,880 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: ends up representing our communities. It happens over and over 325 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: and over again, from dog Catcher all the way up 326 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: to the United States Congress. And so I wanted to 327 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:12,959 Speaker 1: applaud Mike Duggan for taking this step helping us make 328 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: sure we keep that gubernatorial mansion and Democratic hands. But 329 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: I also wanted to be a lesson for other people 330 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: who are listening in other politicals around the country that 331 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: sometimes you got to take a step back in order 332 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: for us all to take a step forward. 333 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 3: But Kai, why do you like this man? 334 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily care for him politically. I thought he 335 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: was really really moderate, and I thought he had a 336 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: lot of trouble in the city of Detroit. But I 337 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: do like this act. 338 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 3: Oh, so you can separate your interest from the person. Okay, 339 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 3: I got you. 340 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean if he would have stayed in the race, 341 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: we would have disliked him more. 342 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 2: So I will say, you know, I'm in favor of Yes, 343 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 2: there is It ends up resulting in electing people who 344 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 2: don't look like us. But what VEX is most is 345 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 2: that it ultimately elects people. Oftentimes you don't share our 346 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 2: passion and commitment to our core set of values and 347 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 2: the issues. And I know that, I know this is 348 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 2: included and implied. And I think Bookar's comment there that 349 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 2: just too often we end up, you know, elevating folks 350 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 2: who again will not be our best, most valuable, you know, 351 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 2: basically m v P voice an advocate for the things 352 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 2: that we want, similar to you know the congressman who 353 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 2: we lost yesterday, I mean in earlier this week over 354 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 2: in Texas, right Angela, who was an m VP for 355 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 2: US A. 356 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 3: District, you know. Before we get there, though, I just 357 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 3: wanted to shout out Jill Stein and just tell her 358 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 3: to take note speak don't let's stay. 359 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: First of all, the way back she come every four 360 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: years and then some of you, she. 361 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 3: Only comes when she's been something Black people to over 362 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 3: come and be united, not today. 363 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: Briand not today support like. 364 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 3: Russian botch yard anyway, So I would like to acknowledge. 365 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 3: Of course, there was a primary in Texas on Tuesday. 366 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 3: In that primary contest, you all know Texas was the 367 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 3: first kind of case study in this redistricting battle, some 368 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 3: districts were eliminated, and uh, Colin Ahred beat I believe 369 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 3: her name is Julie Johnson. Please correct me if I'm 370 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 3: wrong in the chat, but I think her name is 371 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 3: Julie Johnson. She was the first openly gay woman to 372 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 3: serve in Texas. Colin Alred did beat her in that 373 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 3: contest because of the rejiggering of the seats. Christian Minifie, 374 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 3: who was initially elected to take Sheila Jackson Lee's congressional 375 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 3: district seat after the special when the governor finally got 376 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 3: around to holding a special election, Christian Minifie won that seat. Now, 377 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 3: the district that was Sheila Jackson Lee's and the district 378 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 3: that was Congressman Algreen's essentially merged in this primary contest 379 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 3: on Tuesday, Congressman al Green is no longer going to 380 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 3: be serving in Congress. And for those of you at 381 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 3: home who for some reason don't know who this legend is, 382 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 3: let's roll this clip. 383 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 1: Mister Green, take your seat. Take your seat, sir, take 384 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: your seat. 385 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 5: Finding that members continue to engage in willful and concert 386 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 5: a disruption or proper decorum, the Chair now directs the 387 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 5: sergeant at arms to restore order, remove this gentleman from 388 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 5: the chamber. 389 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 3: So in this video, for those of you at home 390 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 3: who are watching, this is Congressman Al Green, who represents 391 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 3: parts of Houston being escorted off the House floor during 392 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 3: Donald Trump's Joint Congressional address two years ago. Was that 393 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 3: two years ago he was escorted off for pointing his cane. 394 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 3: You can turn it off now. So at that time 395 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 3: he was pointing his cane. I call it the ron 396 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 3: Eisley at Donald Trump. And that was kind of a rebuke, 397 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 3: you know it was it was to remind him of 398 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 3: what should be his humanity, his morality in that moment. 399 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 3: And Al Green, although he is a quiet member, he's 400 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: a forceful member. He's super effective in committee. He regularly 401 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 3: represents our best interests, was very active in the civil 402 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 3: rights movement, pushed his colleagues to impeach Donald Trump. And 403 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 3: I think we're seeing every single day why that was 404 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 3: such an important decision despite not being successful. So mister Greeney, 405 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 3: love you and thank you so much for your service. 406 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's real. It's also you know, Angela, he could 407 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 2: have reminds me of you know, we all have a 408 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 2: role to play. Some people are gonna be the beast 409 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 2: when it comes to Florida debate. Other members might you know, 410 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: body committees and incredible ways, and frankly, most of you 411 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 2: are multifaceted, and so you can do multiple things. But 412 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 2: there have to be some folks who are willing to 413 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 2: do what even people in their own party might consider 414 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 2: to be at the extremes of actions. It's a way 415 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 2: of pulling the debate, pulling the conversation closer to a 416 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 2: more reasonable position. Republicans get that, which is why when 417 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 2: they weigh into something, they almost always all weigh in 418 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 2: at the most extreme position possible. So when we're negotiating, 419 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 2: we're starting moderately like, oh okay, well these are reasonable 420 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 2: places by which we can negotiate, and Republicans are like, 421 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 2: way out there, and ultimately they end up dragging the 422 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 2: resolution more to their side than we bring to ours. 423 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 2: People like our Green helps us to readjust you know, 424 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: what the center looks like, what reasonable looks like, and 425 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 2: debates and also in negotiations, and so his voice in 426 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 2: his cane will be mightily missed. 427 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: I also want to I mean, I want to give 428 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: Christian Menifie a chance. I think that he he's great. 429 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: He has to represent those people with the same type 430 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: of veracity and tenor and tone that Al Green did, 431 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: that Chila Jackson Lee did because he he's coming on 432 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: such big shoulders that I want us to take a 433 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: deep breath in Christian, we want you to do extremely 434 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: well in honor of those individuals that came before you. 435 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 1: So that's my only message. 436 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 3: Then here's my only thing about that. Can you Nick 437 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 3: pull the tweet? 438 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 2: This? 439 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 3: This APAC too. This is my only issue again. You know, 440 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 3: we've been having this conversation about where is a pack 441 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 3: when it comes to like, our members walk the plank 442 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 3: for APAC issues quite a bit. A number of them 443 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 3: take a pack money, a pack affiliated money. They tweeted 444 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 3: last night after it was clear that Christian Minafie would 445 00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 3: defeat Congressman Al Green, it says, congratulations Rep. Christian Menefee 446 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 3: on your victory tonight over one of the most outspoken 447 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 3: anti Israel voices in Congress. This isn't in defensive Christian. 448 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 3: I don't even know that Christian takes a PAC money. 449 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 3: But the issue here is you're causing a further divide 450 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 3: between folks who stood up for Palestinian people and the 451 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 3: folks who are anti knit in Yahoo, which is very different. 452 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 3: So it's you know, it has like this this gaslighting 453 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 3: effect of being anti Semitic, and I think that that's 454 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 3: not fair to Congressman Green. 455 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. And I'll just say for the record, I don't 456 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 2: know Congressman menefee. And obviously I didn't say congratulations congratulations 457 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 2: on a whim. Just pointing out, though you know, all 458 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 2: of us have roles to play here. Our Green service 459 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 2: to Houstonians, you know, to the state of Texas is 460 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 2: really Texasized, and I think anyone who comes after him 461 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 2: UH needs to have that same Texas size defense and 462 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 2: advocacy and righteousness UH for our community that he and 463 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 2: many of his predecessors to that he did. 464 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: Can we can we go back to one thing that 465 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: you started this with Angela, which is I don't want 466 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: to I don't want to breeze by this. But Colin 467 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: Colin Alred one, Yes. 468 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 3: Colin Alred beat Julie Julia. Is it Julie or Julia Johnson? 469 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm looking at it right now. 470 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 3: Julie Johnson, Julie Johnson. And so yes, he beat her yesterday. 471 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 3: I think one thing to also note is you know 472 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 3: congressman is going. 473 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: To win the Is it going to win the general? 474 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, yeah, probably. I think people are motivated to 475 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 3: turn out like it's a it's a tougher seat now 476 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 3: the way they've drawn the district. But I think that 477 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,959 Speaker 3: he stands a very strong chance to. 478 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 2: As a former statewide candidate. I think he's he brings 479 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 2: the you know, the kind of fiber that you'd expect 480 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 2: to be and I can petitive. 481 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,719 Speaker 1: He also has a really good resume. He just sometimes. 482 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 3: You don't work as hard. But I was gonna say, 483 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 3: you know, Jasmine has this new pack, Firepack, and all 484 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 3: of the candidates she endorsed one yesterday, So having Jasmine 485 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 3: behind her him sorry, having Jasmine behind him also really 486 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 3: helped Andrew. I know this is probably a good transition 487 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 3: point to the topic you wanted to get around. 488 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, were staying in Texas? 489 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 3: Yes, who cares about truth in the last more than seen? 490 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 2: It Actually just a quick pivot from Texas to say 491 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 2: and the early days of primary I'm sorry, Yeah, a 492 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 2: primary early voting in Bacari's home state of South Carolina. 493 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 2: I just got to say, boy, the community has shown up, 494 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 2: and they've shown up in droves. I thought that Mississippi 495 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 2: by itself and Alabama through the court cases were going 496 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 2: to be the tip of the sphere of the of 497 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: the pushback from black folks on this redistricting battle, this 498 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 2: this effort to take our and reduce the power of 499 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: our vote that has been so hard fought. And one, but, 500 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 2: but but South Carolina said, oh no, we're standing up, 501 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 2: we are turning out. I saw photographs and video images 502 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 2: of lines that were stretched. I mean as far as 503 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 2: my eyes, and they ain't very good. So but but 504 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 2: my eyes can see for sure. And I think a 505 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 2: large part of the debate correct me if I'm wrong. 506 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 2: Bookar from a rep that took place in the state 507 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 2: Senate around not passing these maps, was that you had 508 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 2: Republican folks, senators of conscience who had trepidation about voiding 509 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 2: forty you know, fifty thousand people who had already shown 510 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 2: up and early voted, and they're basically saying, nah, that 511 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 2: don't count. We're going to pass these new maps and 512 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 2: we're going to try this again. So so our actions 513 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 2: do matter. I just wanted to re emphasize that it 514 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 2: is something as small, even as big, but as small 515 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 2: as getting up standing in line, casting your vote righteously 516 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 2: and almost in indignation of what the other side is 517 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 2: attempting to do. And do you see the weight that 518 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 2: that can bear when it comes to the final decisions 519 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 2: being made. Courts have to consider that, Legislators have to 520 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 2: consider that. And it sounds like they did in South Carolina. 521 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 2: In the state of Texas, we saw the Republican primary 522 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 2: which was a hard fought and contestant race between incumbent 523 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 2: Senator John Cordon cor Cornying in the state of Texas, 524 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 2: Republican senator who I believe served for forty years. Somebody 525 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong. I mean he's been elected 526 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 2: about that long at. 527 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: Thousand she's been there. 528 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 2: Wow. 529 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: And he's raised he's raised one hundred million dollars for. 530 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 2: Incredible amount of money. But also seeing in this age 531 00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 2: of trump Ism and and maga as to my too reasonable, 532 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 2: too willing to compromise and work with the other side 533 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 2: when when necessary to represent for the Republican Party of today. 534 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 2: Of Donald Trump's Republican Party, he was vested by almost 535 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 2: almost thirty points twenty eight points by state Attorney General 536 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: Ken Paxton, and he's a get Paxton is another one 537 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 2: of these guys, y'all, who carries the title of the 538 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 2: state attorney General, which we associate with law enforcement and 539 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 2: is the complete antithetical embodiment of what it means to 540 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 2: be unjust, against justice and absolutely a breaker of the law. 541 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 2: Just to give you a sense of. 542 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: Oh, you're gonna run him down, I didn't know if 543 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: you had it up. Go ahead and run it down. 544 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 2: No, no, no, Actually they're tired of my boys. You 545 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 2: run him down. Tell us what this man is known for. 546 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: Man, he was impeached by his own party for corruption. 547 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: He paid three hundred thousand dollars to settle his felony 548 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: fraud charges. He had multiple extramarital affairs. He's under investigation 549 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: for mortgage fraud. He stole a thousand dollars pin from 550 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: another lawyer and was his own video and was taking 551 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: firing whistleblowers. Law enforcement officer of the state. 552 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:13,719 Speaker 3: Sound like Donald Trump? 553 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 2: It does. Who knew though? 554 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: That? 555 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 2: I think a lot of us in our mind thought 556 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,239 Speaker 2: Donald Trump was an exception amongst exceptions when it came 557 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 2: to Republicans that they were willing to turn their face 558 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 2: to whatever to to see him elevated. But Packson is 559 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 2: a whole nother level of creep, a whole another level 560 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 2: of criminal. Uh. He turned his office of Attorney General 561 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 2: upside down in favor of trying to assist a donor 562 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 2: out of Austin, Texas, a big donor to him out 563 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 2: of Austin, Texas, who was under federal investigation. And that's 564 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 2: what was at the hard rock, you know, the bedrock 565 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 2: of the impeachment of which he was by a three 566 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 2: to one vote in a Republican near super majority house 567 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 2: in the state of Texas, which is I mean, y'all, 568 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 2: this has got to be a near impossible thing to 569 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 2: happen where your own Republican legislature by three to one 570 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:16,719 Speaker 2: vote votes to freaking pre impeach you, right, that's what 571 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 2: they did. And now this guy beat out John Cordon, 572 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 2: someone of a more pristine or more typical a bedrock 573 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 2: Republican record, defeated by Paxton. But I got to say, 574 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 2: this sets up what a lot of people are believing, 575 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 2: and I'd be interested to hear y'all's thoughts on this, 576 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 2: believing to be the closest Democrats may every may have 577 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 2: gotten since Bette O'Rourke, who came within three points of 578 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 2: beating Ted Cruz in twenty eighteen, but they believe that 579 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 2: this may be the best opportunity Democrats have to overturn 580 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 2: this seat and with Tallerrico represented, tall Ricos as the 581 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 2: next center from the state of Texas. Y'all, what what 582 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 2: what do you? What do you think is forecast with 583 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 2: this mashup between criminal Paxton. I'm sorry, Attorney General Paxton 584 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 2: and and and Reptyalerico. 585 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 3: He's not going to in. 586 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 2: Who's not gonna win? 587 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 3: James Tallerco is not going to win? 588 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 2: That's your money. 589 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't see it. I think that he 590 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 3: is a lot like Bato with with uh less charisma. 591 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 3: And I also think that these people don't play fair. 592 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,479 Speaker 3: I want to call this call up this tweet as 593 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 3: an example. So Stephen Miller posted this last night on Twitter. 594 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 3: This is a tweet that says the Democrats made history 595 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 3: in Texas by nominating their first transgender Senate candidate. Completely inaccurate, 596 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 3: but they are willing to like try to get it 597 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 3: in the mud. These are people who have gone on 598 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 3: to Republican governors and told them to find them more 599 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,919 Speaker 3: votes and more seats. So I'm not this doesn't even 600 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 3: go to James Talerico's qualifications or his ability. It also 601 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 3: goes to whether or not people are going to play fair. Now, 602 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 3: what do we do in the face of cheaters? Of course, 603 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 3: we show up, we overperform all of that. But here's 604 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 3: my challenge to candidates. And I know we're going to 605 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 3: talk about this more a little bit later, But when 606 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 3: you ask us to show up and show out, when 607 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 3: you ask us to vote, like our lives depend on it, 608 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 3: when you ask us, when you tell us this is 609 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 3: the most consequential election of our lifetime, and all of 610 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 3: that is true, what are you going to do for 611 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:45,479 Speaker 3: the people who overperform, who sacrifice, who show up, even 612 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 3: when your own people vote against you? What are you 613 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 3: gonna do for us? And that's the conversation I really 614 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,720 Speaker 3: want to have, Like I'm not really like, oh, James, 615 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 3: let me give you free advice. You're paying these mother 616 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 3: consultants millions of dollars. I ain't got free advice to 617 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 3: give you. Bro, I really don't wish you the best, 618 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 3: certainly while they're calling you transgender, wish you the best, right, 619 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 3: But like you got you got some work to do, 620 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 3: you got some inroads to me, you know. 621 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: A lot of work to do, and I'm afraid so 622 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 1: let me let me, let me start over. I'm not 623 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: gonna frame it the way Angela framed it, but she 624 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: was very direct and honest in her assessment. The way 625 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: that I would frame the way that I would frame 626 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: this race is that Democrats should spend time and energy 627 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: in North Carolina and Ohio before Texas. Texas is always 628 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: fools go. And so what what I don't want tell 629 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 1: Ico to do is bring in Barack Obama. 630 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 3: Which hold on, Butkari, break that down a little bit more. 631 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 3: Why Ohio and North Carolina? 632 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: Because we can actually win those seats? 633 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 3: Which is the same should I just say. 634 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 1: Instead of instead of saying the little buddy can't win, 635 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, give yours to somebody else. Shout out, 636 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: shout out the former. 637 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 2: Shared Brown, He just give you money. 638 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: To give your money to Shared Brown and a governor, 639 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: former Governor Quick Cooper, who are running running great races 640 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: in their respective areas. 641 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 3: We just hosted fun like Roy is different from Shared 642 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 3: Brown too, Like y'all just for a moment, can we 643 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 3: sit here. 644 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:22,399 Speaker 1: It is good. 645 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 3: He's fine, but he's not like you guys, we ask 646 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 3: black people to do the supernatural thing, and black people 647 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 3: don't benefit from that. Like, yeah, we're not there yet, Okay, 648 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,720 Speaker 3: I'm going to need to get there quick, so go ahead. 649 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to make sure because at the end 650 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: of the day, if we still fifty two forty eight 651 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: or fifty three forty six or whatever the math is, 652 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: then black folk are gonna get no no juice out 653 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 1: that squeeze anyway if it's upside down. So all I'm 654 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,959 Speaker 1: saying is that I actually think I know Governor Cooper, 655 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: and he did a hell of a Johns governor in 656 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: North Carolina. I don't know Shared Brown as much, but 657 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: I do know that he was a champion for labor 658 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 1: and and has been a champion for our issues, and yeah, 659 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: very well. He was very well loved, particularly in places 660 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 1: like Cleveland and in Columbus. But I don't know Ohio 661 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: politics too much, so I don't want to dig that hole. 662 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: But back to James tel Rico, Tylerrico, I'll be modeling 663 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 1: these people's names. Back to James. One of the things 664 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:20,959 Speaker 1: I don't want you to do is bring in Barack 665 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: Obama like he did two weeks ago. Have Beyonce just 666 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: wearing an h Town hat and a talar Rico T shirt. 667 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: I think that the advice he will receive from Washington, 668 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: d C. Is to utilize the political cachet. You have 669 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: to bring in some black faces to show that you 670 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: are a champion for that community, instead of doing the 671 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: grassroots work necessary to build the energy. What happens in 672 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:55,280 Speaker 1: these races often is these individuals focus on grasstop blacks. 673 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: They focus on the preachers, not the pews. And what 674 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: I'm asking him to do is is get with the 675 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 1: ame church right now. Lay out a plan for what 676 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,760 Speaker 1: you're going to do with the AMEI Church. Talk about 677 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: you know or in members of the AMI church, talk 678 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 1: about a public safety record, and what you're going to 679 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 1: do in cities like Houston in Dallas right go to 680 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 1: your HBCUs, do that work necessary, and don't don't just 681 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: kind of at acoutrements around the plate and just want 682 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 1: us to eat it right, because that's what they do. 683 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: They just come out here and put a few decorations up. 684 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 1: And I love Beyonce, and I love and I love 685 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 1: Barack Obama, but that's not enough to penetrate the community 686 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 1: in a way that's going to win this race. The 687 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 1: crazy part about these three people we just named is 688 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 1: Rick Cooper and share It both have that cachet in 689 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 1: these communities. They got that, they still got to go 690 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,439 Speaker 1: turn it, they got to do the work, but they 691 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 1: have that cachet of respect because they have that record 692 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 1: of the thing and the work that they've done. 693 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 3: Can I just I just want to correct myself a 694 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 3: little bit. Sharon Brown hasn't been like this huge outspoken 695 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 3: ally on black issues, but he also has not been 696 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 3: I just looked up his ACLU school score. He raised 697 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 3: eighty seven percent on a pro civil rights voting record. 698 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 3: But I guess what I'm asking for is not just 699 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 3: how they vote, but how they speak out. And I 700 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,879 Speaker 3: think what I'm craving in this moment, y'all is I'm 701 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 3: not seeing a lot of Senators, a lot of sitting 702 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 3: members of Congress on the House side speaking out against 703 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 3: the like pure onslaught of our voting rights and these maps. 704 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 3: And it's frustrating to me, it really is. 705 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 2: And so I'm just frustrating all of us. I agree. 706 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 3: So what happens to me is I feel, from my perspective, 707 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 3: is the onus continues to be on us without the 708 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 3: onus of an agenda passed, pushed or sponsored by the 709 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 3: legislators who we have to go vote for. And so 710 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 3: what I'm asking for in this moment is for there 711 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 3: to be a right setting of that. If you know 712 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 3: that we have to vote, like our lives depend on it, 713 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 3: and we do. I am never going to discourage people 714 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,320 Speaker 3: from voting. I'm always and to encourage us to vote, 715 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 3: but like our civic engagement does not start her in there, 716 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 3: And I think that it is not fair for members 717 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 3: of Congress or any elected official to want us to 718 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 3: do all of the heavy lifting. And they don't even 719 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,879 Speaker 3: have to say where they stand on reparations, or where 720 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 3: they stand on HBCU funding, or where they stand on 721 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 3: whether or not black farmers finally get their fair share, 722 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,760 Speaker 3: or where they stand on you know, another young black 723 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 3: boy whose head is being mealed on by a police officer. 724 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 3: You know, if I don't want Sherry Brown, for example, 725 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 3: to co sponsor an anti flag desecration amendment when the 726 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 3: flag does not represent the people who it's supposed to serve. Right, So, 727 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, at some point this has to be 728 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 3: right set and sure Black people should have an agenda 729 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 3: and demands, and we should have. But also y'all know 730 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 3: what we need to survive in this country and for 731 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 3: us to really be fully liberated, and I don't see 732 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 3: y'all doing that. So I need you to meet me 733 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 3: more than halfway. It's not an around the way. 734 00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 2: If I just really could quickly say you on the 735 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 2: on the agenda first, I am a big shared fan, 736 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 2: and I'll take his symbolic gestures to keep his seat 737 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 2: any day over him doing the hard, laborious work and 738 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 2: committee and in markup to ensure that the needs of 739 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 2: our communities are met. Because Angela is one thousand percent correct, 740 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 2: you don't need us to articulate it. Quite frankly, we will, 741 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 2: we can, and we will. But the truth is is 742 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 2: that just like you look at data to help you 743 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 2: determine how much your community or constituency needs as it 744 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 2: relates to a food bank, you can look at data 745 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,840 Speaker 2: to see whether the disparitor is in housing and an education, 746 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 2: and in health and in so many other areas employment, 747 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 2: economic impact, the loss of wealth, the overwhelming release of 748 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 2: qualified black women from their work. All this stuff is 749 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 2: open and available to you. And I think what happens 750 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 2: oftentimes with white liberal Democrats, very specifically, is that they 751 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 2: take a back seat to black legislators, believing that those 752 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 2: black legislators should be the ones to speak on this 753 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,919 Speaker 2: and they'll talk about the suburban real America issues when 754 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 2: that issue comes full circle and it needs a voice 755 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 2: and it needs an advocate. And what they should hear 756 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:18,280 Speaker 2: very clearly is, just like your community has white voters 757 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 2: in it, you also have voters of color in it, 758 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 2: and I would argue probably a pretty overwhelming demonstrable number 759 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 2: of them if you got elected to a congressional seat. 760 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 2: And so what that means you have to be in 761 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 2: service to all of them. Don't take a back seat 762 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,720 Speaker 2: to an issue that you think is a black issue, 763 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 2: because if it's a black issue, it's an American issue, 764 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 2: right since this thing is built on us and oftentimes 765 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 2: sustained by us, and is oftentimes our community are the 766 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 2: ones that are the canaries in the coal mine for 767 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 2: everything bad that happens and that's coming down the pike. 768 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 2: So the advocacy of these folks is absolutely necessary. But 769 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 2: car I was seeing the a tax on Tall Rico 770 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,959 Speaker 2: after the election, and it reminded me of me having 771 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 2: to deal with Rhonda Santens getting up and saying on Fox, 772 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 2: don't monkey the state up. And what I will tell 773 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,919 Speaker 2: the Taller Rico team about this, this is the only 774 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 2: free advice, and that is to say, don't follow the 775 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 2: red herrings, like there are things that are going to 776 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,319 Speaker 2: want you to run down the barrel in on the issue. 777 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 2: But you've got to continue to look past them, talk 778 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 2: past them, speak past them, show up past them to 779 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 2: the voters of the state. If you make this thing 780 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,799 Speaker 2: about whether God is a man or a woman, first 781 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,879 Speaker 2: of all, it's insulting because our God is too good 782 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,760 Speaker 2: and too great for that devolution of a conversation around 783 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 2: gender right to be applied. That's one. But if you 784 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 2: follow them down the rabbit hole on these things, you're 785 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 2: going to find that the very voters who you are 786 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 2: trying to recruit to your side are going to be 787 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 2: the ones turned off by all of the distraction when 788 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 2: what they want to hear you talk about are where 789 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 2: do you stand on redistricting? That's a big constituency in 790 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 2: your states. Your state is going through where do you 791 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 2: stand on that? Don't tell me that's a federal issue 792 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 2: and is beyond the scope of the office of such 793 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 2: and such and such. Nothing when you're elected and you 794 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 2: have a perch like a United States Senate seat, is 795 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:20,959 Speaker 2: beyond the scope of your conversation, your consideration, your dialogue, 796 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 2: your speechifying, your tweeting, or whatever it is. Xing well, 797 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 2: you know that you do. In other words, if it 798 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 2: confronts the people under your purview, then it creates a 799 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,439 Speaker 2: range of opportunity for you to speak up and speak out. 800 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 2: Don't wait to be asked. I want to see you 801 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 2: move affirmatively those and those directions, and that's what that's 802 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 2: what's going to be required for you to bring over 803 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 2: the folks who were pro Jasmine did not feel like 804 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,320 Speaker 2: the resolution of that race was the most respectful or 805 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,319 Speaker 2: or or whatever the issue may be. They're now going 806 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 2: to look past gesture. They're going to want to look 807 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 2: to and read through and feel the content, the sustenance 808 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 2: and sustenance of what you are offering to them, to us. 809 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 2: And if you can't be compelling enough in that way 810 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 2: and feel as passionately about the gender of God as 811 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 2: you do about redistricting and the other issues that confront them, 812 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,400 Speaker 2: then goodbye, because we're going to need to see that 813 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 2: kind of energy in order to believe that you might 814 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,880 Speaker 2: have a fighting chance of once you get elected, still 815 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 2: being there for us on our side, not just when 816 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 2: we need you, but when the circumstances make it necessary 817 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 2: for you to do it. 818 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,959 Speaker 3: I just I want to say here one, I agree 819 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 3: with everything you said, Andrew. I just want us, if 820 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 3: we can, to transition a little bit to this kind 821 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,319 Speaker 3: of talking point that's been percolating a lot so in 822 00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 3: the response to redistricting in the maps. Is the overarching 823 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 3: democratic leadership talking point, especially in Congress, is y'all just 824 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 3: wait to the midterms. We going to show you in November. 825 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 3: There's a lot of action and activity happening Bacari's home 826 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,240 Speaker 3: state of South Carolina. All the young people who organized 827 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,479 Speaker 3: around stopping the maps just the other day. That wasn't 828 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 3: just Republicans of good conscience. That's them having to walk 829 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,359 Speaker 3: past the protestors. That's them having to watch how many 830 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 3: people showed up at the polls. Right. So we're still 831 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 3: doing our part, but Democratic leadership is saying wait until 832 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 3: the midterms, wait until November. I don't want black people 833 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,279 Speaker 3: to wait and be behind the eight ball another day. 834 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 3: I want us to be organizing and figuring out what 835 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 3: our needs are and making those demands known to elected 836 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 3: officials who get paid by us, whether we vote for 837 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 3: them or not. Again, not discouraged, not encouraging sitting at home. 838 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,360 Speaker 3: I'm always going to encourage people to vote. My question 839 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 3: to y'all is, especially as former elected officials, what is 840 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 3: the right message? I think that we all hopefully agree 841 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 3: And if you don't agree that the right If you 842 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,920 Speaker 3: think the right messages, wait till the midterms show up 843 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,360 Speaker 3: in November? Is the right message? I definitely want to 844 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 3: know why. But if that's not the right message, what 845 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 3: is I talked to my best friend Lyonetta yesterday and 846 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,319 Speaker 3: I was like, Nedda, when you hear this, when you 847 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 3: hear Democrats saying this to you, what's your response? She 848 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:31,760 Speaker 3: was like, well, what d y'all they're gonna do in November? 849 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,280 Speaker 3: Because last time they was in charge, didn't nothing really change. 850 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 3: So if that's the case, like what why do they 851 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 3: keep defaulting to? 852 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:39,400 Speaker 1: That? 853 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:40,880 Speaker 3: Is that a security blanket? 854 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 2: Like? 855 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 3: What the free kiss that? 856 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 1: So I brought this up to you on the call 857 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 1: the other day. I think I guess both of you. 858 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 3: All don't be trying to act like I plage your eyes. 859 00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 1: You're talking point No, it's not quite just slightly. But 860 00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 1: the question is, like I think the question that's a 861 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 1: question that that King Jeffries has to answer yesterday, Like 862 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 1: what what are the very tangible things we give you, 863 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 1: the levers of power back? What are you going to 864 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 1: do other than you know, not be trump right? Like 865 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 1: accountabilities one aspect, But people out here are watching decades 866 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 1: worth of rights being eroded. I was listening to someone 867 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 1: say that a woman born today has less reproductive rights 868 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:31,399 Speaker 1: than her grandmother. That is just a fascinating statement when 869 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 1: you think about it, right, And so I I think 870 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 1: that there are a couple of things. One, I want 871 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:46,359 Speaker 1: to change the way Democrats fundamentally campaign. That's I mean, 872 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,479 Speaker 1: I think that we run very still campaigns. My white 873 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 1: progressive friends show up in black areas, you know, after 874 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 1: Labor Day, they show up at HBCU football games and 875 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,359 Speaker 1: black churches around September. 876 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 3: You know, we have to change sometimes Halloween. 877 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,719 Speaker 1: We have to become a more digital campaign, am I. 878 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:10,400 Speaker 1: One of the things that I would tell Tallerico is 879 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 1: something that I was disappointed in a lot of people, 880 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:20,440 Speaker 1: because when your campaign raises fifty sixty seventy one hundred 881 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 1: million dollars, and there's not one black millionaire that you've created. 882 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 1: There's not a pipeline of new black field workers that 883 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:35,479 Speaker 1: got their start on your campaign. There's not a new 884 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,240 Speaker 1: entity that came up that does pr work or polling 885 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 1: that you were giving them that twenty five or thirty 886 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 1: five thousand dollars a month, which was more than they've 887 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 1: ever made in their life, but helped they did good 888 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 1: work for you, but it helped transform them in their 889 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,719 Speaker 1: communities because we know those campaign dollars when they come 890 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,920 Speaker 1: into our households, they're going to be spent with us. 891 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,360 Speaker 1: They're going to be spent at HBCUs, they're going to 892 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 1: be spent at black businesses, in black restaurants. But for 893 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,279 Speaker 1: far too long, people haven't even thought that way. They 894 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,800 Speaker 1: haven't looked at the economy or the ecosystem of politics. 895 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,359 Speaker 1: So it's the same people, same people get paid over 896 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,919 Speaker 1: and over and over and over again. And I want 897 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 1: James tell Rico and even Shared Brown and even Governor 898 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,560 Speaker 1: Cooper to break that cycle because they are raising tens 899 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,279 Speaker 1: of James is gonna break one hundred million dollars. We 900 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 1: just know that just throw that up there. He's gonna 901 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,600 Speaker 1: break a hundred million dollars and I will be extremely 902 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:34,240 Speaker 1: disappointed if there's not, you know, five new millionaires, because 903 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 1: they did work with his campaign. And the other thing 904 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,319 Speaker 1: is one of the things that I was watching the 905 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 1: other day is the murder Boy. He just bought. He 906 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:52,520 Speaker 1: just bought a whole new conglomerate of media. Right, they 907 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:53,399 Speaker 1: just went out and bought. 908 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, they did four or five. 909 00:50:55,200 --> 00:51:01,400 Speaker 1: New big shining like top ten of viewership readership. They 910 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:07,520 Speaker 1: the media in the conservative ecosystem is running circles around 911 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 1: our black media and democratic media. And we have, of 912 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 1: course the Roland Martin, we have Byron Allen, Right, we 913 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,360 Speaker 1: have these individuals who are trying to get in that space. 914 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 1: But we can put them, Ashley Ellison, we can put 915 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:27,319 Speaker 1: them on three I mean one hand, three angles. So 916 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 1: I want us to do a better job of using 917 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,400 Speaker 1: this cycle to build up Native lampid right, which Angel 918 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,279 Speaker 1: is trying to do every single day, going out in 919 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,120 Speaker 1: the community and creating more content. But I want us 920 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 1: to make sure that our political media is growing as well. 921 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,960 Speaker 1: And it's something that goes parallel to the candidates. Because 922 00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,200 Speaker 1: one of the things that I don't want us to 923 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 1: do is put all of this on the individual running 924 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:56,359 Speaker 1: for office. Andrew said it best. There's a role for 925 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,400 Speaker 1: each one of us. There's a role for all of 926 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,200 Speaker 1: us to play, and we need to be a part 927 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,479 Speaker 1: of that ecosystem. My last point is, please God, don't 928 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 1: let perfect. But is it. Don't let perfect be an 929 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,279 Speaker 1: interview enemy of good because we be out here trying 930 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,520 Speaker 1: to trying to elect you know, Martin Luther King, who 931 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,400 Speaker 1: studied with Malcolm X, who had the courage a Rosa 932 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 1: Parks and was an athlete like Cam Newton, and be 933 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:24,759 Speaker 1: trying to find the Manchurian Negro candidate. And we fall 934 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 1: on our face. And so I'm not saying that we settle. 935 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,239 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that we don't ask for things that 936 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,960 Speaker 1: are tangible or good. But at the end of the day, 937 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 1: we can't look for perfect because that becomes an enemy 938 00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 1: of good. And this is a math game for me. 939 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,600 Speaker 3: But here's the here's the thing, Andrew, and I'm just 940 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,879 Speaker 3: gonna ask this to layer, to have you weigh in. 941 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:50,520 Speaker 3: What Bakari talked about was like the inside baseball of 942 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,200 Speaker 3: the strategy, like you know, who are you getting as 943 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 3: you're in your in your consultant class. Who are you 944 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,000 Speaker 3: building up in terms of capacity and all of that. 945 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,880 Speaker 3: But there's also a requirement to meet the needs of 946 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,560 Speaker 3: the voter so that they're even desiring to turn out. 947 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,480 Speaker 3: And I think that's really where I'm sitting right now. 948 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:12,240 Speaker 3: I obviously agree and have worked really hard on building 949 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,720 Speaker 3: up consultants over time. But I'm saying, for the people 950 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,920 Speaker 3: who are at home, who snap benefits are about to 951 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 3: be cut in November, Medicare, Medicaid, all of that, the 952 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,160 Speaker 3: things that we keep talking about till we're blue in 953 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 3: the face, what is in it for them? This is 954 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,400 Speaker 3: a transaction? Is this is a classic case of you know, 955 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,600 Speaker 3: you know, I like you, I would wear your shirt. 956 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,440 Speaker 3: Maybe permanent friend, I hate you, I'm not feeling with you, 957 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 3: you don't rock with me, you don't support my policies. 958 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 3: Permanent enemies. But at the end of the day, I 959 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,920 Speaker 3: have to make sure that I can get to work, 960 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,920 Speaker 3: my kids can go to school, I can eat, my 961 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:49,240 Speaker 3: light bill is paid. You know, I'm up hopefully getting 962 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,760 Speaker 3: closer to it upward mobility trajectory while trying to fulfill 963 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,840 Speaker 3: the American dream. What are you going to do to 964 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,120 Speaker 3: ensure that I can get that. That's for the voter. 965 00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,720 Speaker 3: What are we what what do we demand for the voter? 966 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, first of all, the voter makes their demand. 967 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 2: But but before I answered more deeply your question answer, 968 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,239 Speaker 2: which I think is the right place for us to be, 969 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:18,800 Speaker 2: I want to attenuate your list, Bakari, and just say 970 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,719 Speaker 2: the other thing. In addition to what ways have you 971 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,440 Speaker 2: built wealth and built up status and capacity within these firms, who, 972 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,319 Speaker 2: by the way, have expertise for the exact voter that 973 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,520 Speaker 2: you need. Let's not forget that, you know this benefit 974 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,959 Speaker 2: is a two way one. But also what community based 975 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 2: organization did you leave behind that has capacity to build 976 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:43,000 Speaker 2: and strengthen community engagement and involvement and see to the 977 00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,600 Speaker 2: needs of the people that you serve. When we're not 978 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:51,279 Speaker 2: in the election cycle, we often forget about. It was 979 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,520 Speaker 2: the one thing that I announced after I, you know, 980 00:54:55,960 --> 00:55:00,160 Speaker 2: after our twenty eighteen race in Florida, was getting back 981 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:05,439 Speaker 2: making micro grants to statewide community based organizations to get 982 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,359 Speaker 2: in there and do the work that they know how 983 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,879 Speaker 2: to do best. They're knocking on doors when storms come through. 984 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:12,880 Speaker 2: They're the ones showing up on your doorstep trying to 985 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:14,959 Speaker 2: see if you got a generator. They're the ones trying 986 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,960 Speaker 2: to make sure that you got access to food, your 987 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:21,480 Speaker 2: cads got closed. They're triaging our community in times of crisis, 988 00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 2: but also in everyday periods because they're looking up and 989 00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,920 Speaker 2: they're seeing the news as well. Gas is expensive, So 990 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,759 Speaker 2: what are they doing with money that they fundraised for. 991 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,800 Speaker 2: They're giving you the gas cards. They're helping folks out 992 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,160 Speaker 2: to make that bridge from week to week when we 993 00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,960 Speaker 2: robbing Peter to pay Paul and still don't have enough 994 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,080 Speaker 2: coming in the door to make the math work on it. 995 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:45,560 Speaker 2: Speaking of math, Bakari, so we do have to change 996 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:50,200 Speaker 2: our mindset around the one hundred million dollars to be 997 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,920 Speaker 2: spent in sixty ninety one hundred and twenty days for 998 00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,480 Speaker 2: a race where if you did the math and the 999 00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,680 Speaker 2: number of voters and divided by the number of the 1000 00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,680 Speaker 2: amount of money that you spent, it is an incredulous 1001 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:05,719 Speaker 2: amount of money being spent per voter that you get. 1002 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,120 Speaker 2: And you got a nerve to talk to me about 1003 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,560 Speaker 2: not having a budget to go and get low propensity voters. 1004 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,319 Speaker 2: You're spending twenty times that on the voter who you 1005 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,680 Speaker 2: know is going to show out, and that's your posters 1006 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,480 Speaker 2: and your advisors should have already told you. Of that 1007 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:25,200 Speaker 2: entire targeted demographic, you might change less than one percent 1008 00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,000 Speaker 2: of their minds about who they're going to vote for. 1009 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:33,440 Speaker 2: So it really is flushed money. I'm embarrassed by the 1010 00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,279 Speaker 2: amount of money we had to raise and spend in 1011 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,200 Speaker 2: the time that we had to do it. But if 1012 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 2: you're going to raise those kinds of sums of money, 1013 00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,799 Speaker 2: for sure you ought to leave something behind. And that's 1014 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,920 Speaker 2: what I'm getting at. Around these community based organizations, you 1015 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,040 Speaker 2: can't go in here telling people you care about them. 1016 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,520 Speaker 2: You see them, you feel them, you're advocating for them, 1017 00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,800 Speaker 2: but you abandon them for four years into the next cycle, 1018 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,520 Speaker 2: or two years to the next cycle, or six years 1019 00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:00,319 Speaker 2: to the next cycle. US Senator, you abandon them, and 1020 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 2: then you show back up and you tell them that 1021 00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:03,919 Speaker 2: you've been out here advocating and debating on the floor 1022 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 2: and you scheduled time and had remember time on the floor, 1023 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:09,680 Speaker 2: and then the caucus and into this and they're still saying, 1024 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:14,120 Speaker 2: my condition has not fundamentally changed in any way, shape 1025 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 2: or form. So the voter has the demand and the 1026 00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:23,400 Speaker 2: demand in this cycle isn't just that we got to 1027 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,080 Speaker 2: get beyond Trump and we got to stop that is 1028 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:29,800 Speaker 2: that is that is absolutely in the equation. It should 1029 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,600 Speaker 2: be top three on the list of the things that 1030 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,520 Speaker 2: we're talking about. But the other thing is is we 1031 00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:39,040 Speaker 2: have to tell people what it is we want, what 1032 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:43,440 Speaker 2: we need, and guess what. They shouldn't have to depend 1033 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,440 Speaker 2: on us to know what it is that we need. 1034 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,000 Speaker 2: They ought to have us. They ought to have a 1035 00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,760 Speaker 2: census of of the people that they're choosing and wanting 1036 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,240 Speaker 2: to represent. They they ought to have a complete census 1037 00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,680 Speaker 2: of what it is based off the numbers. 1038 00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:02,200 Speaker 3: But andrew this. So there is the Black Census Project 1039 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,560 Speaker 3: that Black Futures Lab does. People won't take the. 1040 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:11,240 Speaker 2: Census guess what. I'm actually I wish they would. But 1041 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,960 Speaker 2: my bigger beef is that a member will will point 1042 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,680 Speaker 2: to the fact that the census only got X percent 1043 00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,200 Speaker 2: of respondents and so that's what they had to go 1044 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,480 Speaker 2: off of, rather than saying, you know what, I noticed 1045 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,640 Speaker 2: that in my state and in my district, the average 1046 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:30,640 Speaker 2: unemployment is four point three percent, and then I've also 1047 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:34,160 Speaker 2: noticed that amongst black men it's twenty five percent, and 1048 00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,400 Speaker 2: amongst black women it's sixteen and a half percent. And 1049 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,240 Speaker 2: so if you know this to be true, that the 1050 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:45,280 Speaker 2: average is four point three or whatever, and we're four 1051 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,480 Speaker 2: and five times that average, you ought to know that 1052 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:52,640 Speaker 2: an intervention is necessary in order to get folks what 1053 00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:54,800 Speaker 2: it is that they need. All I'm saying, Angela, is 1054 00:58:54,840 --> 00:59:00,800 Speaker 2: that yes, we as a community should take these censuses, 1055 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,240 Speaker 2: give our responses, and allow that to be fomented into 1056 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:08,080 Speaker 2: an agenda that groups like ours and others can present. 1057 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:12,360 Speaker 2: But also too, if you're seeking my vote, you ought 1058 00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:13,880 Speaker 2: to do just a little bit of like work. 1059 00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:17,680 Speaker 3: I agree, but that they don't because they freaking have. 1060 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,560 Speaker 2: You agree, but they don't. And this is why I'm 1061 00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:24,560 Speaker 2: saying the demand. We cannot put the responsibility for curing 1062 00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,080 Speaker 2: the ills of society on the people who are most 1063 00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,440 Speaker 2: impacted at its intersection. You gonna take what we do 1064 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,960 Speaker 2: and tell the victim that they ought to come up 1065 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,360 Speaker 2: with the souve for what victimized them. 1066 00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,160 Speaker 3: I understand, I don't think it's fair, but that's where 1067 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:39,000 Speaker 3: we don't. 1068 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:42,800 Speaker 2: Do it to anybody else. But we're not an argument. 1069 00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,919 Speaker 3: An argument, This is a passionate agreement. I was gonna say, 1070 00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,760 Speaker 3: but who else arrives in the belly of a slave 1071 00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,480 Speaker 3: ship like it ain't it ain't shit like what we've 1072 00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:55,360 Speaker 3: been through in this country. It's not going not another Yes, 1073 00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,959 Speaker 3: there's not another group who they say we're gonna take 1074 00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,160 Speaker 3: your culture. We're gonna take your entertainment. We might pay 1075 01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:03,880 Speaker 3: you a little bit for it, but you also may 1076 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:05,840 Speaker 3: have to do it for free. We're gonna make sure 1077 01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,000 Speaker 3: that you work hard for us and then call you lazy. 1078 01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,720 Speaker 3: We're gonna do all of these things make the conditions impossible. 1079 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,240 Speaker 3: And yet still you survive. And when you survive, and 1080 01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,520 Speaker 3: you barely get the opportunity to vote, you better know 1081 01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,800 Speaker 3: what you want, how you want it. And even though 1082 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,360 Speaker 3: we are going through sow seeds of discord all throughout 1083 01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,640 Speaker 3: your community, you better figure out how to unite if 1084 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:25,960 Speaker 3: you want to get anything done at all. 1085 01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:30,000 Speaker 2: And by the way, solve your own problem, yes, all 1086 01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,480 Speaker 2: of that while I, while I solve the rest of 1087 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,960 Speaker 2: the constituency and the rest of the district's problem, you 1088 01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,000 Speaker 2: can go out and by way, yes, to do it 1089 01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,200 Speaker 2: for other people. These same electeds stand up in front 1090 01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:45,760 Speaker 2: of a town hall meeting or a members debrief, a 1091 01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:49,440 Speaker 2: coffee and chew, and then they say black person that 1092 01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,439 Speaker 2: thank you for being here because because of what you said, 1093 01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,520 Speaker 2: this is exactly why I need people like you to 1094 01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:59,040 Speaker 2: come and volunteer fort No, sir, because you didn't say 1095 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:03,960 Speaker 2: that to voter over there. You understood hook line sentence, commaverse. 1096 01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:04,160 Speaker 1: What it is. 1097 01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,320 Speaker 2: They need it without their explanation. But for me, when 1098 01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,600 Speaker 2: I come and state what is the most fundamental obvious 1099 01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,320 Speaker 2: to anybody who has sighted and you don't have to 1100 01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:16,040 Speaker 2: see sighted, but site in the deepest sense, anyone who 1101 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,320 Speaker 2: has a sense of what is going on, as I 1102 01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:23,240 Speaker 2: expect an elected should would know that, of course these 1103 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:24,880 Speaker 2: are the issues that are playing us. 1104 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,080 Speaker 3: But I guess I'm not saying that you're wrong. I'm 1105 01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,960 Speaker 3: saying that we have witnessed time and time again folks 1106 01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,800 Speaker 3: not do this. It's the reason why the Congressional Black 1107 01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,680 Speaker 3: Caucus when it started, had to be the conscience of 1108 01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:40,120 Speaker 3: the Congress because when they fought to protect black interest, 1109 01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:44,120 Speaker 3: basic health care, fundamental rights, that wasn't just for black people, 1110 01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,640 Speaker 3: that was going to help everyone. But still, people even 1111 01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:52,000 Speaker 3: like w. Wasserman Schultz running where she feels entitled in 1112 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,760 Speaker 3: a space and on issues where she's never cared about, 1113 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:58,000 Speaker 3: has hardly said much about this is exactly the problem, 1114 01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,440 Speaker 3: and so we do need the census. I'm saying, why 1115 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,600 Speaker 3: can't this voter just name it, or why can't this 1116 01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,640 Speaker 3: elected official just say that they see it. I don't know, 1117 01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:07,840 Speaker 3: but what we know is historically that doesn't work. When 1118 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,360 Speaker 3: Joe Blow comes and says, here are the issues that 1119 01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:13,240 Speaker 3: you need to solve for the black community in Congressional 1120 01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:17,000 Speaker 3: District twenty or you know in this particular state, they 1121 01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:20,640 Speaker 3: don't hear it unless it's from the Association of Black 1122 01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:21,280 Speaker 3: Joe Blows. 1123 01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:22,800 Speaker 2: So then we need. 1124 01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:26,280 Speaker 3: To talk together to do the thing so that we 1125 01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,480 Speaker 3: are heard. And I wish it wasn't this way. 1126 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:30,920 Speaker 2: I think we do both is right. I agree with you, 1127 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,080 Speaker 2: But at what I think our common talking point has 1128 01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,920 Speaker 2: to be, Angela is I shouldn't have to prescribe to you, 1129 01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:38,560 Speaker 2: elected official. Who are you standing in front of me 1130 01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:40,000 Speaker 2: and you're asking for my vote. I shouldn't have to 1131 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:43,600 Speaker 2: prescribe for you what it is that you know what 1132 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,080 Speaker 2: we need in order to solve this problem. That's number one. 1133 01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,800 Speaker 2: But number two, I want you to be aware and 1134 01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:50,320 Speaker 2: I will forward your office so you can have your 1135 01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,000 Speaker 2: litt assistant over there go and study it and google it. 1136 01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,200 Speaker 2: Beyond this conversation is I need you to have the 1137 01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:57,640 Speaker 2: Black agenda in front of you, and I need you 1138 01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,880 Speaker 2: to go through that and figure out what's among those issues? 1139 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,400 Speaker 2: Are you prepared to sponsor legislation on what's among them? 1140 01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:06,680 Speaker 2: Are you going to take Because I want to report 1141 01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:10,640 Speaker 2: back to the Black census that congressmen elects such and 1142 01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,720 Speaker 2: such as told me that this is the issue by 1143 01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:17,440 Speaker 2: what he wants or she wants to take sponsorship leads. 1144 01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,600 Speaker 3: We need to have black everybody that listens to Native Lampard. 1145 01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,480 Speaker 3: It doesn't even just have to be black folks. We 1146 01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,000 Speaker 3: want you to go to these town halls, these candidate 1147 01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,240 Speaker 3: meet and greets and do exactly what Andrew said. I 1148 01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,360 Speaker 3: think that is a perfect and I think. 1149 01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,680 Speaker 1: You're I think that was a natural segue too, because 1150 01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:43,720 Speaker 1: let's get to some calls of action. Nobody knows and Angela, 1151 01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:47,680 Speaker 1: you you have given us a lot to take action upon, 1152 01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:49,760 Speaker 1: and so I'm gonna let you start. You might want 1153 01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:51,760 Speaker 1: to double back on something you said earlier, but let 1154 01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:53,320 Speaker 1: me hear your call to action. Then we go to Andrew. 1155 01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,080 Speaker 3: Well, first, I just want to thank you both for 1156 01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,520 Speaker 3: this conversation. I feel like this is not done. But Cary, 1157 01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:00,560 Speaker 3: there's so many questions I have for you still in 1158 01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,880 Speaker 3: this space. And Andrew, even like the way that you 1159 01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,920 Speaker 3: ran your race was different the way that people in 1160 01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,880 Speaker 3: Florida still talk about how you ran and how much 1161 01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:11,680 Speaker 3: hope they had. It didn't feel like and hope and 1162 01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,280 Speaker 3: change campaign. It felt like you were one of them 1163 01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:17,280 Speaker 3: because you are. And So one of the things that 1164 01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,680 Speaker 3: I would encourage candidates everywhere to do is figure out 1165 01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:22,960 Speaker 3: how to tap into your humanity. We're going to talk 1166 01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:27,040 Speaker 3: about on our mini pod that we're recording today how 1167 01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,480 Speaker 3: everyone has a role to pick play politically even when 1168 01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,000 Speaker 3: they don't think they do. And we're going to start 1169 01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:34,760 Speaker 3: with NCAA athletes. So think about what you're responsible, what 1170 01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:38,640 Speaker 3: your responsibility is in this time. Also, I want to 1171 01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:41,080 Speaker 3: shout out my good brother ja Mario Solomon Simmons. He 1172 01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:44,000 Speaker 3: has a new book out, Redeem a Nation. He was 1173 01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:47,600 Speaker 3: on my solo pod yesterday. The century long battle to 1174 01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:51,080 Speaker 3: restore the soul of America since reparations is in hot 1175 01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:55,120 Speaker 3: conversation right now with Donald Trump's seventeen seventy six billion 1176 01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,360 Speaker 3: dollar fund, which where the country always says they don't 1177 01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:00,240 Speaker 3: have any reparations. It's time for us to talk about 1178 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,520 Speaker 3: who really deserves them. So that's my call. 1179 01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,080 Speaker 2: Amen. Amen, that was a lot of calls too, Sorry, 1180 01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:09,400 Speaker 2: but I love it. I simply doubled down on where 1181 01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,200 Speaker 2: I ended my comments, which was to simply say, if 1182 01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:14,920 Speaker 2: I'm actually going to let you off the hook for 1183 01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:18,800 Speaker 2: not knowing what is our collective community agenda? Because as 1184 01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,400 Speaker 2: I said before, I don't think any elected, any policymaker 1185 01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:25,000 Speaker 2: holds any other constituency of note responsible for being the 1186 01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:30,600 Speaker 2: ones to solve the public policies issues that confront our 1187 01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:33,280 Speaker 2: communities writ large. They don't. That's why people run for 1188 01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:38,520 Speaker 2: office to propose those So don't let them headfake us 1189 01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:42,240 Speaker 2: into believing that we are the ones who are ultimately responsible. 1190 01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,520 Speaker 2: Because it's one thing. If it's a one off, it's 1191 01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:46,280 Speaker 2: one thing. If it happens a two out of ten 1192 01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,560 Speaker 2: of us, it's another thing if nine out of ten, 1193 01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:50,760 Speaker 2: eight out of ten of us are confronting the same thing. 1194 01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:52,600 Speaker 2: Because what is that a system? 1195 01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:53,160 Speaker 1: Right? 1196 01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,320 Speaker 2: That is a system? Now, that is not a one off, 1197 01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,800 Speaker 2: a coincidence. I'm sorry that happened to you. No, it 1198 01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:04,520 Speaker 2: is systemic, and that requires systemic action activity to then 1199 01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:12,200 Speaker 2: change a thing. Secondly, make your electeds recognize, even if 1200 01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,880 Speaker 2: you are every year voter, that you are voting this 1201 01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:18,480 Speaker 2: year with a different set of determination, and that one 1202 01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:20,160 Speaker 2: of those at the top of that list of what 1203 01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:23,400 Speaker 2: you are determined to see happen is you are determined 1204 01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,640 Speaker 2: to see them produce for your community in a way 1205 01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,880 Speaker 2: that has never been demonstrated by this seat before. And 1206 01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:33,360 Speaker 2: if you want the specifics, go to blah blah blah 1207 01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,680 Speaker 2: blah blah, or you hit them your list of five things, 1208 01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,480 Speaker 2: and that way they know what it is that you expect. 1209 01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:42,200 Speaker 2: But no longer can we just do the obligatory I 1210 01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:45,680 Speaker 2: got you because we know what the other side has 1211 01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:49,000 Speaker 2: in store for us and it's just that bad. Yes that, 1212 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,760 Speaker 2: But also I've got some needs that need to be 1213 01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:54,880 Speaker 2: met for our community, and here they are. 1214 01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,920 Speaker 1: My call to action is to somebody I don't know, 1215 01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:05,800 Speaker 1: but I have a great deal of respect for, kind 1216 01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:09,919 Speaker 1: of asking him to do better. Nick, can you play 1217 01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:11,360 Speaker 1: this clip for me please? 1218 01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:13,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, the George Floor joke. 1219 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:17,520 Speaker 6: It wasn't a tasteful joke to our culture, to our audience, 1220 01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:23,160 Speaker 6: but our audience that's watching the roast. If you're watching 1221 01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:26,000 Speaker 6: the roast, you get why they're doing it, You get 1222 01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:30,600 Speaker 6: why the racial humor is is on the table like 1223 01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:30,960 Speaker 6: it's not. 1224 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,440 Speaker 3: I wasn't shocked, Like that's. 1225 01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:34,680 Speaker 2: What they do. 1226 01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:36,920 Speaker 6: Go look at the Tom Brady one, like that's what 1227 01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:40,000 Speaker 6: they do. It's it happens every year when they do 1228 01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:43,600 Speaker 6: a roast. It's not new. This isn't a new it's 1229 01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,240 Speaker 6: not a new agenda. It's not a new approach to comedy. 1230 01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:48,360 Speaker 7: Do you feel like Tony Hinchcliff went too far when 1231 01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:49,280 Speaker 7: he made that joke about. 1232 01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:53,520 Speaker 6: George It's Tony Hinchcliff, like, I don't like, I don't 1233 01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:55,040 Speaker 6: expect less, I don't expect more. 1234 01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:56,960 Speaker 1: I feel I feel like you're saying going too far 1235 01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:58,520 Speaker 1: as the point, I don't know if it word was yes. 1236 01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:02,720 Speaker 6: I mean, that's why you're there. And I hate to 1237 01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,960 Speaker 6: say this, but I'm going to because we're being honest. 1238 01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:10,920 Speaker 6: People are talking about that joke, talk about a set. 1239 01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:15,520 Speaker 6: Tony Hinchcliffe arguably had the best set, or one of 1240 01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:19,280 Speaker 6: the best sets between Tony and Sheryl and I would 1241 01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:23,639 Speaker 6: say Naim had a really strong laugh. 1242 01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,200 Speaker 7: I was laughing out loud at Tony until that joke. 1243 01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,640 Speaker 1: But not even just that joke. I don't like when 1244 01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:30,519 Speaker 1: people joke about violent tragic depth. 1245 01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:34,320 Speaker 2: I like Pete said, and I was like, I peek peek. 1246 01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:36,719 Speaker 6: Pete had a great set too. Pete had a Charlie 1247 01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:37,880 Speaker 6: Kirk joking like. 1248 01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:44,360 Speaker 1: I'm with Angela's philosophy of not throwing people away. So 1249 01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:47,360 Speaker 1: I'm not going to come from a place of hate 1250 01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:52,040 Speaker 1: to Kevin Hart or let's you know, disown him or 1251 01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:56,439 Speaker 1: I'm not doing that, but I do want to spend 1252 01:08:56,520 --> 01:09:00,679 Speaker 1: time or have people around him spend time to educate 1253 01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:05,240 Speaker 1: him on the fact that just because you have a 1254 01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:11,960 Speaker 1: proximity to whiteness, you ain't them. And there are battles 1255 01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:15,400 Speaker 1: that we fight, and there are many times we look 1256 01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:18,559 Speaker 1: to people and talking about the roles that we talked 1257 01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,439 Speaker 1: about in the show. Kevin Hart plays an integral role 1258 01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:23,960 Speaker 1: in a lot of people's life because when things get darkest, 1259 01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:28,599 Speaker 1: he lifts us up through his humor, through his movies. 1260 01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,799 Speaker 1: I mean that may be his role through his company 1261 01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:34,280 Speaker 1: that he's built now that he is trying to employ people. 1262 01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:36,160 Speaker 1: I know that the people are writing some stuff about it, 1263 01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:38,559 Speaker 1: but I don't want to go in that. But what 1264 01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:40,679 Speaker 1: I will tell him is that I'm not a comedian, 1265 01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:44,440 Speaker 1: but I can tell you that racial violence and racism 1266 01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:49,559 Speaker 1: ain't funny. And when you talk about George Floyd's life 1267 01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:53,200 Speaker 1: or death and it comes out of the mouth of 1268 01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:56,800 Speaker 1: a bona fide racist, you have to do more in 1269 01:09:56,880 --> 01:10:00,760 Speaker 1: terms of take accountability for that act. Although you're not 1270 01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,880 Speaker 1: the one who made it, and it's so you're gonna 1271 01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:05,880 Speaker 1: say I'm friends with him. It was a roast of me. 1272 01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:09,720 Speaker 1: It was a that's not the point. And I am 1273 01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:13,760 Speaker 1: not disappointed in Tony hinsclind like I'm not. I don't 1274 01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:15,960 Speaker 1: have any judgment of him because we know who he is. 1275 01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:19,960 Speaker 1: But I am disappointed in your remarks that you made 1276 01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:24,559 Speaker 1: after the fact, even taking time to listen to the 1277 01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:28,439 Speaker 1: words that are being said around you. You took a 1278 01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:34,360 Speaker 1: position of comfortability that's enveloped in whiteness. And if you're 1279 01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:38,840 Speaker 1: going to continue to utilize our community to build wealth, 1280 01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:43,680 Speaker 1: then you need to understand when you aid or platform 1281 01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:48,600 Speaker 1: in furthering harm, then you become the problem. So my 1282 01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:53,280 Speaker 1: call to action, as Kevin needs to think about himself, I. 1283 01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:58,960 Speaker 2: Have to say, I E. Charlie Kirk, why what what 1284 01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:02,160 Speaker 2: I'll just say, I mean when when? When? When they 1285 01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:05,600 Speaker 2: decide what the line is people lose their job, you 1286 01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,240 Speaker 2: know what I mean. All I'm saying is simply if 1287 01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:11,559 Speaker 2: if you're having a hard time understanding the line, because 1288 01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:17,320 Speaker 2: I've worked for a famous comic who and and I've 1289 01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,880 Speaker 2: heard and been around folks who use satire as the 1290 01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:28,840 Speaker 2: ultimate license to say and do whatever without any response, 1291 01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:31,840 Speaker 2: and people have a response, and I just I just 1292 01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,960 Speaker 2: wanted to identify that point is is that. 1293 01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:37,439 Speaker 1: Go ahead? I'm sorry? 1294 01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:39,679 Speaker 2: No, no, no to your point that there that that that 1295 01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:41,600 Speaker 2: that that there are lines that the other side draws you. 1296 01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:43,880 Speaker 2: This isn't some um offended liberal. 1297 01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:47,040 Speaker 1: I mean, when you when you are the subject of 1298 01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:54,840 Speaker 1: the roast, there is no holds barred. But the family 1299 01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,000 Speaker 1: of George Floyd did not ask to participate in that 1300 01:11:57,040 --> 01:12:00,880 Speaker 1: in that way. And that's a a bigger point that 1301 01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,360 Speaker 1: I'm disappointed that Kevin Hart. Even a lot of times 1302 01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:05,559 Speaker 1: we don't see things in the moment, you know, I'm 1303 01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:07,800 Speaker 1: on TV sometimes and were talking and I don't see 1304 01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:11,600 Speaker 1: things in the moment. But excuse me, after reflection, he 1305 01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:12,640 Speaker 1: should have been able to see that. 1306 01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,920 Speaker 3: Anyway, I can I say something on this. You brought 1307 01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:21,439 Speaker 3: this up, this was you know anyway, I think the 1308 01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:25,120 Speaker 3: thing that I want to remind people of George Floyd 1309 01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:29,400 Speaker 3: became a martyr, not of his choosing in this country 1310 01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:34,320 Speaker 3: because Derek Chauvin kneeled on his neck until he died. 1311 01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:37,800 Speaker 3: For nine minutes and twenty nine seconds, this country had 1312 01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:44,320 Speaker 3: to watch this torturous video that takes us back in time, 1313 01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:47,360 Speaker 3: frankly to where our voting rights and our civil rights 1314 01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:54,320 Speaker 3: are now going. And to suggest that George Floyd, who 1315 01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:59,759 Speaker 3: who's alleged crime was using counterfeit money in a store 1316 01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:03,640 Speaker 3: that he frequented, a neighborhood store that he frequented at Minneapolis, 1317 01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,320 Speaker 3: deserved to die in any way, and as a result 1318 01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:14,240 Speaker 3: was looking up from hell where he couldn't breathe, which 1319 01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:20,360 Speaker 3: is what the joke was. Is an abomination. It is awful, 1320 01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:23,040 Speaker 3: and I just want to on behalf of our show, 1321 01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:28,360 Speaker 3: send our love and our prayers and our continued action 1322 01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:31,719 Speaker 3: to do the right thing, to advocate for this family 1323 01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:33,960 Speaker 3: and all of the other families who cannot be named 1324 01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:37,560 Speaker 3: to have lost loved ones at the hands of police violence. 1325 01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:42,920 Speaker 3: We just were with you, and as the you know, 1326 01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:47,439 Speaker 3: this Department of Justice dismantles a police database that would 1327 01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:51,880 Speaker 3: allow for this violence to continue. As this administration which 1328 01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:54,920 Speaker 3: would never support a George Floyd Justice and Policing Act. 1329 01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,720 Speaker 3: With this administration and the dj that is seeking to 1330 01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:04,080 Speaker 3: protect white Protestant males, we know that we are still 1331 01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:07,240 Speaker 3: at risk every single day, and as our parents in 1332 01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:10,559 Speaker 3: our communities continue to have d talk with their kids 1333 01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,600 Speaker 3: knowing that there's nothing that they can do in the 1334 01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:17,120 Speaker 3: face of a rogue police officer, no matter how good 1335 01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:20,559 Speaker 3: you are. This is not a behavior test or a 1336 01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:23,920 Speaker 3: background check that can ever be passed just by the 1337 01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:27,760 Speaker 3: mirror color of your skin. So we send our love 1338 01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:30,920 Speaker 3: to George Floyd's family and certainly ask that he rest 1339 01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:33,719 Speaker 3: in peace. Thank you for looking down on us, George, 1340 01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,439 Speaker 3: and know that we will continue to fight for your 1341 01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:38,640 Speaker 3: legacy and for other young people come behind you. 1342 01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:42,840 Speaker 1: That was a great show, y'all, and as always, you 1343 01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,680 Speaker 1: want to remind everyone to leave us a review and 1344 01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:49,840 Speaker 1: subscribe to Native Lamppod. We're available on all podcasts, platforms, 1345 01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,360 Speaker 1: and YouTube. 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