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Speaker 3: May ask, why why do we need a black leader,

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Speaker 3: or more specifically, why do black people need a leader?

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Speaker 3: My answer to that is who cares? We Blacks just

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Speaker 3: like having leaders, and I want to be the next one.

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Speaker 3: What are my qualifications? I'm black and I want the job.

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Speaker 2: Nuff said.

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Speaker 3: Now, I know that's not going to satisfy the small

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Speaker 3: No problem, I can do that. Just keep in mind

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Speaker 3: most black leaders are self appointed, and at any time

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Speaker 3: I can play that card and end the whole discussion.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here it goes. I'm really good at rhyming.

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Speaker 3: This may sound like nothing on the surface, But if

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Speaker 3: you dig down deep enough, you'll see that you can

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Speaker 3: take any issue and make it seem more important by rhyming,

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Speaker 3: case in point, taxes. At first glance, it would seem

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Speaker 3: like it would be difficult to make taxes an important

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Speaker 2: To shoves, should always be the goal.

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Speaker 3: For instance, if I said we need to ease the

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Speaker 3: help raise their standard of living, you will probably say no, thanks,

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Speaker 3: so called black leader.

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Speaker 2: But if I.

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Speaker 3: Said, first it was guns and axes, now they want

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Speaker 3: to kill us with taxes, come along, you will probably say,

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Speaker 3: preach it, black leader, or how about they minimized piece

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Speaker 3: top tax rate. Tell me that doesn't make you want

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Speaker 4: Your neck, swinging over your head like a helicopter.

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Speaker 2: And that's just taxes.

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Speaker 3: I can effectively rhyme any issue, from abortion to school vouchers.

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Speaker 3: What other black leader would even think of rhyming vouchers?

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Speaker 3: For this reason alone.

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Speaker 2: I should be your black leader. But don't worry, I

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Speaker 3: Uh So today's excerpt is from I'd Rather We Got

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Speaker 3: Casinos by Larry Wilmore, and it's him talking about being

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Speaker 4: Uh So, that's hilarryous.

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Speaker 2: The rhyming one is so funny because we.

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Speaker 4: Will rhyme anything.

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Speaker 2: I feel like it used to be mandatory.

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Speaker 3: Now it doesn't seem like that, but it seemed like

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Speaker 2: Uh, I mean, Faara khon. I mean, it seemed like

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Speaker 3: Like if you can make a rhyme, you can make

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: That and a lot of it comes from a lot

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jesse used to be the best at it. He

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Speaker 3: why a lot of the black academics have those those

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Speaker 4: Back in the day and even to today for some

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was, I mean, it's not just about

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Speaker 2: Like everything, everything had a wrap.

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Speaker 4: They had to be simple too, well, not always be

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Speaker 4: my exclamation is not your proclamation, you like, oh you about.

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Speaker 4: And what I mean, and and and not all of

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Speaker 4: finally get the new air conditioning, the new doorknobs. Look, look,

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Speaker 4: look at the pews, you know, new stained glass. When

442
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Speaker 4: does you know y'all come on over here. The new

443
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Speaker 4: church got an escalator. You know you can take your

444
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Speaker 4: kids over there to Sunday school.

445
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Speaker 2: You you ain't.

446
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 4: You can pay attention. You ain't got to worry about

447
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 4: your kids bothering you. We give them snacks.

448
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Speaker 2: Say goodbye to the MLK fans. Come on and hello

449
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Speaker 2: to the ceiling fans. Okay, we we we done made it.

450
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Speaker 4: Come on, we got spotlights, we gotta quid and everything.

451
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Speaker 4: Come on over to the new sanctuary.

452
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Speaker 3: Well, I want to get to some of these polls

453
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Speaker 3: that we didn't get to last week. So do you

454
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Speaker 3: like the new segment songs? Ninety three percent says yes

455
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Speaker 3: and seven percent said no, They only like the old ones.

456
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Speaker 2: But you know, too bad them y'all pay the loss

457
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Speaker 2: of fees.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

459
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Speaker 2: Do you think Antifa burned down their garage? Yes?

460
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Speaker 3: Seven percent. No, it was Fat Albert and the Boys

461
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Speaker 3: thirty three percent, And no, it was an inside job

462
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Speaker 3: sixty percent. I'm on the sixty percent.

463
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Speaker 2: I remember that.

464
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Speaker 3: That felt very much like signed That job felt very

465
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Speaker 3: much like Sign the Blacks to me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Uh, did you watch the presidential debate? Yes?

467
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Speaker 4: Or no?

468
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Speaker 3: Thirty six percent did watch it? Sixty four percent did

469
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Speaker 3: not watch it. Really, don't blame you on either side.

470
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Speaker 3: I wasn't gonna watch it and I ended up watching it. Shit,

471
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Speaker 3: Hippolyta come back to earth her Earth?

472
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Speaker 2: Yes, D needs her.

473
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Speaker 3: No, fuck them kids, Michael Jordan. Karen, of course, is

474
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Speaker 3: in the no category. Thirty six percent of the audience

475
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Speaker 3: agrees with Karen no, which means sixty four percent of

476
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Speaker 3: us have some sense, and we're like, we're like d

477
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Speaker 3: not to be walking around with spit on her head,

478
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 3: you know, uh getting cursed by cops and stuff. So,

479
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Speaker 3: but that's just me, a man who cares about Little

480
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Speaker 3: Black Girls. Episode twenty ninety two. War on Reality was

481
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Speaker 3: our feedback episode from last week.

482
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Speaker 2: Let's get into this.

483
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Speaker 3: Dig Al seven O four says Rod, speaking on how

484
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Speaker 3: damn discussing Trump is is my motherfucking jam uh yep,

485
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Speaker 3: well you know he discussed me.

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Speaker 2: Uh logan two times.

487
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 3: One aman says, hey, y'all, I also tickled I last

488
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Speaker 3: so hard. Imagine myself with a slice of ham just

489
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Speaker 3: to smell you. Fancy negroes always make me laugh British voice,

490
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Speaker 3: ha ha ha emon.

491
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Speaker 2: Well we are nothing if not fancy negroes. Come on, okay,

492
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Speaker 2: mandem smell some hamdum okay. The pole, the pole is.

493
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Speaker 2: Do you think this pole will work? Because last time

494
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Speaker 2: the poli.

495
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Speaker 4: It didn't work. It all. We fixed it, but it

496
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 4: was that pole was like blocking all the shots.

497
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Speaker 2: Well, some of y'all have faith in me.

498
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Speaker 3: Eighty two percent of audience says yes, I do think

499
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Speaker 3: it'll work, and eighteen percent says no because they don't

500
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Speaker 3: have any faith that I would fix it. And guess

501
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Speaker 3: what you we're wrong? Okay, I did get it fixed.

502
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 3: We did, and the pole does work, so we back.

503
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 3: I had to pay some money, but we got to

504
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 3: do work the Platinum plan. Let's see, we got five

505
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Speaker 3: comments on this episode. dB Man twelve says, Hey, as

506
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,360
Speaker 3: you mentioned, Rod, the craziest thing is that I assumed

507
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 3: all the wh people and GOP poles were Fox News

508
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Speaker 3: in it saying one thing to the public, doing a

509
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 3: White House people okay, and doing the right thing for themselves.

510
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,360
Speaker 3: But damn they followed Trump's bullshit and put the whole

511
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Speaker 3: federal government at risk. And the worst part for these

512
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 3: fools of Trump dies pants. Gotta fire all these idiots anyway,

513
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Speaker 3: could Gratt you were at Caring on Spotify move Yeah,

514
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 3: I don't even know what to say, man, Like I honestly,

515
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 3: I really thought they couldn't surprise me anymore, But them

516
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 3: being dumb enough to get the coronavirus is a surprise

517
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Speaker 3: to me. Like, why supremacy a motherfucker?

518
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Speaker 4: They really willing to die for the calls?

519
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Chris Christy that rem Dezevie or whatever. Today it's

520
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 3: like it's seventh day in the hospital. Someone I think

521
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 3: texts me that they just released him from the hospital.

522
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 3: So maybe he's okay, maybe he's not. But just the

523
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 3: fact that Chris Christie was fucking around with this shit, it's.

524
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Speaker 2: Yeah, like, bro, how risk? Yeah you how risk what

525
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 2: you're doing? Ramsey Djinga says five Stars.

526
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Speaker 3: Farrest says Dog that able to Verney shit was a

527
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 3: whole last trip folks went at her, but then when

528
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 3: she responded like a human being, that turned into her

529
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,239
Speaker 3: abusing her platform to take a black woman down, as

530
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Speaker 3: if that's not what the fuck they were doing to her.

531
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Speaker 3: Right then every completely uh then every completely unrelated grievance

532
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 3: folks have ever had with her came up. I was

533
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 3: gonna speak up, but I just didn't even want to

534
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 3: smoke because ultimately ain't no reason with them niggas. It

535
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 3: was wild as hell, though, Dog, I can't put it

536
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 3: more plainly. That's basically how I feel. I like and

537
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Speaker 3: my thing because I know how people love to like

538
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Speaker 3: misquote or air on the other side of this shit.

539
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Speaker 3: My thing was just it's it's okay to disagree, it's

540
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 3: okay to be like, I don't really like this thing

541
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 3: or whatever, but it's like there is no in between.

542
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,719
Speaker 3: These motherfuckers always end up taking it to you an

543
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 3: agent of white supremacy that hates black people, and you

544
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 3: ain't shit, and you know you did the Central Park

545
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 3: five movie, but somehow you want Trump to to to

546
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 3: to continue to be president and support him and support

547
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 3: his white supremacy. And it's like, no, the fuck, she

548
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 3: did not say that, And this idea that y'all can't

549
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 3: suddenly we get on Twitter. We no longer can understand

550
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 3: or give anyone any benefit of the doubt to when

551
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 3: they say if someone's saying like I wish you well

552
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 3: because I don't wish death on people, we go, I

553
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 3: don't even understand how she could get that from that.

554
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 3: It's like, you know how, because it's pretty fucking obvious.

555
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 3: If this is a disease that kills people, and I say.

556
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Speaker 2: Before going, I want you to go to jail, I

557
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 2: want you to get out of white house. I wish

558
00:26:58,760 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 2: you well. It just means I don't want you to

559
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Speaker 2: die from the shit from the disease.

560
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Speaker 3: Now look, I understand because I would not probably express

561
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 3: that on social media, and it does. Everything on social

562
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 3: media is performative, whether you're death wishing or whether you're

563
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 3: well wishing. So this thing where people go, well, who

564
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 3: it's performative, like niggas, so is you coming at her?

565
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 3: And the quote tweeting that Harvey Weinstein picture and shit

566
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 3: like all of that is performative for someone else. Yes,

567
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 3: But my thing was just I don't understand why people

568
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 3: couldn't just let it slide because it really didn't seem

569
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 3: like that big a deal and it's actually not.

570
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's one of those things.

571
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 3: I know it's not that big a deal because we

572
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 3: won't be talking about this next week because that's a

573
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 3: well wish or death wish don't mean shit, they're not real.

574
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 2: Cause if it was real, as much as y'all niggas

575
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 2: wish death on him, why are you doing? Okay? So

576
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 2: so stop. Yeah, everyone's performing. Everyone's going crazy, you know,

577
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 2: over this.

578
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 3: Dude, And you know, I just refuse to lose my

579
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 3: reality because it's a war on fucking reality. And the

580
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 3: reality is that avidd Verne is a person that cares

581
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 3: about black people and specifically black women.

582
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 2: She makes inclusive TV shows.

583
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 3: She puts people in positions for their careers to produce

584
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 3: and a lot of these people talking and shit have

585
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 3: never done anything like that for people, period, And a

586
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 3: lot of them benefit from people like her that put

587
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 3: people on that make it their mission to be like,

588
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna leave behind a legacy. So you know, like

589
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 3: I said, I get not liking what she said. I

590
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 3: get disagreeing with what she said. Those are two different

591
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 3: things than we are throwing her out. And the thing

592
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 3: that I find so weird is that it be the

593
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,959
Speaker 3: same motherfucker's talking about we need to be gentle.

594
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 2: How can black women have to always be everyone's mule?

595
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 2: How can we can't ever have a moment of da

596
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 2: da da da. They don't really believe that.

597
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 3: They only believe that when you do exactly what the

598
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 3: fuck they tell you to do. Any other time, it's

599
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 3: like you're trash, You're out of here, You're the worst.

600
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 3: And I think that reaction from that faction of people

601
00:28:59,200 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 3: is bullshit.

602
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 2: If you're just a person that just didn't agree with

603
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: what she had to say, cool, I didn't necessarily agree

604
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 2: with what she had to.

605
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 3: Say, So like that part is not so crazy to me,

606
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 3: but the vitriol, and I love how far has put it.

607
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 3: They talk shit to you, cold cash shit. When you

608
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 3: react to the extreme element of the people talking shit,

609
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 3: all these other people jump in as if you're talking

610
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 3: about all of them. And that's where Twitter is so

611
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 3: fucked up, you know what I mean, Because let's put

612
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 3: it this way. I say, let's say I say, you

613
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 3: know what, man, I don't want Trump to die of

614
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 3: this disease.

615
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 2: I want him to go to prison. Right, Let's say

616
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 2: I say that.

617
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 3: Right, if I say that on Twitter, there'll be a

618
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 3: lot of people that go, you fucking sell out, coon

619
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 3: blue check, blah blah blah. There'll be some people that go, well,

620
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 3: I want them to die of disease, I don't give

621
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 3: a fuck or whatever. Right, There'll be people that say

622
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 3: that shit, And then there'll be some people that go,

623
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 3: I agree with you. Right, I'm more likely to respond

624
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 3: to the people that call me a whole bunch of

625
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 3: names and said accuse me of my motives and all

626
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 3: that stuff.

627
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 2: Well, when I respond to them, the people.

628
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 3: That just went I kind of disagree, we'll go, oh,

629
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 3: so you saying when I disagree with you that I

630
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 3: think you ain't. And now we got a whole conversation

631
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 3: that's happening where none of us are actually really directly

632
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 3: communicating with each other.

633
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 4: No, and it's something that I've always said, everybody puts

634
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 4: shit out there, but the number one thing, and I've

635
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 4: kind of made it a habit to start doing looking

636
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 4: to mentions. Nobody looks in people's mentions. If a person

637
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 4: just started wild'n out and responding crazy like, look in

638
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 4: their mention, see how many bitches and holes and all

639
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 4: types out of their names they've been called, and then

640
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 4: you go, oh, okay, I see why they responded like this.

641
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of the things. And when I realized that,

642
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 2: I mean it was years ago that I realized that.

643
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 3: But when I realized that, I was like, oh, I

644
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 3: don't really, I can back off of this shit, because

645
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 3: what happens is is confirmation bias if you've been looking

646
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 3: for a reason, because look, a lot of woke people

647
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 3: are angry, and a lot of anger is couched as wokeness,

648
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 3: so you know, there's jealousy. That's why you see people

649
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 3: bring up ship like a blue check mark, which don't

650
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,239
Speaker 3: which makes it makes no sense unless you look at

651
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 3: it from the aspect of, oh, you're jealous. It doesn't

652
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 3: make sense to be upset about that unless you're a

653
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 3: person that's less like I'm mad you have something I don't,

654
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 3: which is some ship that some white person in some

655
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 3: office decided was important. It's not like I, you know,

656
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 3: like every who gives a fuck, But okay, you you

657
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 3: care about that, right and and so you're determined that

658
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 3: people with a blue check mark are a certain type

659
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 3: of black person or a certain person. It's crazy to

660
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 3: me to think that, but that's what you're into. So

661
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 3: you couch all this commentary and just jealousy, and then

662
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 3: you had it behind being woke.

663
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 4: That's what that is.

664
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 3: When people say when you look at someone's lifetime of

665
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 3: work and see how much they've done for black people,

666
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 3: and then throw them out and go, no, they were

667
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 3: only about money, they don't care about us, blah blah blah.

668
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 3: Because of one or two comments, I have to stop

669
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 3: and go, what then are you jealous of them?

670
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 2: Do you?

671
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 3: You know your commentary around celebrity and money always turns

672
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 3: into if someone got money, they must be a bad person,

673
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 3: which then makes me think, you know, especially when you're

674
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 3: you know, these are the same people that are pay

675
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 3: me for my work, give me my worth, don't don't

676
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 3: be humble, don't be afraid to ask for your money.

677
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 3: Don't you know, like this is the same people that

678
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 3: advocate black people getting what they're worth, that advocate black

679
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 3: people putting on other black people, that advocate black people

680
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 3: making money, that advocate uh, you know, prosperity for themselves.

681
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: That that every day they look at their vision board,

682
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 2: or every day.

683
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 3: They're they're they're affirming, uh the they're affirmation, give me

684
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 3: my money, you know that kind of shit.

685
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: And then when someone actually does get it, it's fuck

686
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 2: you girl, And it's such a weird, like it's such

687
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: a weird I don't understand it.

688
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 3: Hypocrisy to me, And it's such a like and I

689
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 3: don't trust you now that you have some money. Like before,

690
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 3: when you were doing all this work and I was

691
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 3: supporting you to help you get to the platform where

692
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 3: you can have the money and have a voice, I

693
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 3: was cool. But then you got too much. In my mind,

694
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 3: you got more than me. You got something I no

695
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 3: longer wanted to identify with you. And now I have

696
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 3: to feel like I have to take you down. I

697
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 3: feel like I put you on the pedestal and I'm

698
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 3: responsible for that, so I'm taking you out. Anytime I

699
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 3: see someone use the words hold someone accountable that they

700
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 3: don't fucking know, I always think of how crazy they sound.

701
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 2: You sound like the people that kill Selena, like the

702
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: woman that kills Selena.

703
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 3: That's you don't know this person to hold them accountable

704
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 3: any more than you know them to truly U support

705
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 3: them as as on a personal level.

706
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 2: You're a consumer, that's all you are. You can choose

707
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 2: a consumer, not consume.

708
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 3: But the eye that you wrote a piece on medium

709
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 3: and that's gonna make Beyonce be held accountable is And

710
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 3: it's so much entitlement and narcissism from you. You know,

711
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 3: it's like me coming on podcast, I hold such and

712
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 3: such accountable.

713
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 2: Who the fuck do I think I am? I'm just

714
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 2: giving you my opinion.

715
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 3: So all that shit right there just kind of adds

716
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 3: into the swirl of toxic narcissism that exists online all

717
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 3: the time. And I feel like that's what happens, and

718
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 3: that's how I view these things now. So when I

719
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 3: see people turn on able to Verne and I think

720
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 3: it's short sighted. I mean that, like, I do think

721
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,959
Speaker 3: it's short sighted to turn completely on her because she's

722
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 3: gonna be doing some project that's helping black people write.

723
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 2: The fuck now.

724
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 3: She's working on something right now that is giving people

725
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 3: the inclusion that they never fucking felt before. Just the

726
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 3: storylines with trans people on Queen Sugar alone are things

727
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 3: we've never really seen before, you know, like just like

728
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 3: little stuff like that that we take for granted, because

729
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 3: once again black people, black women being so excellent that

730
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: we take them for granted, and we go every imperfection

731
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 3: is a cancelable offense.

732
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: But all the things you do right, all the work

733
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 2: you've ever done, that we expect that and we don't

734
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: give you nothing for it. Fuck you. So it's such

735
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: a weird thing to me, and it'd be the same

736
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 2: motherfuckers that in a month or two or be shipped.

737
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 3: Like, I don't know why we canceled Chris set Michelle,

738
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 3: it's not fair that Kanye gets to do well niggas.

739
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 2: You you're the one, you know what I mean.

740
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 3: I don't understand why little Booty can say such and such,

741
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 3: but so and so Ozellijah Bangs has to get canceled.

742
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 3: You decided that, you know what I mean, You're the

743
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 3: one making up the arbitrary rules and shit. You can

744
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 3: decide to also give some people some grace sometimes, yes, if.

745
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 4: You decide to. And it's one of those things the way.

746
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 4: I look at a lot of people on social media.

747
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 4: A lot of people like underground shit, and this is

748
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 4: how it makes sense to me. A lot of people

749
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 4: like it underground where they can talk to their friends eyback,

750
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 4: who who is that? So they can feel extra super

751
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 4: special that they know somebody doing some shit that don't

752
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 4: nobody else know. But the second that person crosses mainstream,

753
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 4: they have to turn because now everybody knows. Now it's

754
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 4: not you can't exclude people.

755
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 3: You know.

756
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 4: Now, it's not the cool kids club. You know, it's

757
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 4: one of those things. Once you cross that line, and

758
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 4: once white people start seeing you, and once you start

759
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 4: making money, and once you start blowing up the shit

760
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 4: that you actually want them to do, because you nobody

761
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 4: can stay underground forever. And so once that person's talent

762
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 4: is seen and they start kind of going up the

763
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 4: ranks instead of you cheering and promoting them, which is

764
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 4: what most people do. You have a percentage of people

765
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 4: like you say they feel a certain way. They get jealous,

766
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 4: they get envy, particularly if it's the same thing, the

767
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,919
Speaker 4: same area or same arena that they're in that they've

768
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 4: been doing for years, and this person just comes out

769
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 4: of the blue quote unquote in their mind when the

770
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 4: person literally hadn't come out of the blue. Because most

771
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 4: of the time people's first projects, particularly for black people.

772
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 4: Truth be told, we rarely hear about black people being

773
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 4: and doing these things when they're young. Most people we

774
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 4: hear about, they'll be like, yeah, that person around twenty

775
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 4: five years, that person around thirty five years, that around

776
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 4: fifteen years, the person around ten years. You can why

777
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 4: the fuck am I just now hearing about them? You know,

778
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 4: But it's one of those things where, uh, you get

779
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 4: that that issue in there. And then also for me,

780
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 4: when I look at it, a lot of people they're

781
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 4: complain and the second that put those particular people that

782
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 4: they're complaining about, particularly if they're doing good work in

783
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 4: the black community, turn around say fuck it, Why am

784
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 4: I doing this when you don't even respect the work

785
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 4: that I'm doing for you? They act like a human

786
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 4: being can't turn around to somebody and be like, I

787
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 4: am doing this and y'all don't appreciate what I'm doing,

788
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 4: I'm not doing it anymore. You'd be the same people

789
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,919
Speaker 4: complaining about how they sold out, complain about how they're

790
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 4: not working no more, complained about how they're supposed to

791
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 4: be excellent, and all the doors that they're shutting, you're

792
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 4: complaining about them, But at the same time you tell

793
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,919
Speaker 4: them that, and it's like you just expect to treat

794
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 4: these people any old kind of way.

795
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 2: That you feel like supposed to deal with it like

796
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 2: mules the way that you came.

797
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 3: White people treat us like mules. Woke people do that

798
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 3: ship to black other black people all the fucking times.

799
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 2: They do unappreciative mean it's it's it's not love, it's

800
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 2: that stand culture ship. I don't want stands.

801
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 3: I don't want that type of love. I don't want

802
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 3: that abusive type of relationship.

803
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 2: With my own people. And you're calling it being a fan.

804
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 2: That's not a fan. Have you ever been loved? That

805
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 2: is not love? You know what I mean?

806
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 3: The ship where like uh like like if that if

807
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 3: we did that to our children, we would call that abuse. Yes, hey,

808
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 3: you got all a's, but you gotta see in math.

809
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 3: Fuck you your trash, Get the fuck out. I don't

810
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 3: support you, piece of ship like. It's that type of

811
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 3: craziness to me. And it's why, And it's the hyperbole

812
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 3: of the Internet. It drives us to those crazy places

813
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 3: and this is, and it's also weird because it comes

814
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 3: from the same people that go, you need to have

815
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 3: an opinion on everything because you're famous, and so these

816
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 3: will be so they'll go, you should have said nothing.

817
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 3: You know, it's okay to shut up. But they the

818
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 3: same people that go, silence is complicitness whenever they just

819
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 3: whip that shit out randomly all the time, whenever someone goes,

820
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just play my lane. I have an unpopular

821
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 3: opinion on this, and motherfuckers don't feel like they're ready

822
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 3: to hear it, so let me just shut the fuck up.

823
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 3: You know, your silence is complicitness, and it's like, oh,

824
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 3: you're just trying to find the fodder for a for

825
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 3: like an angle to attack the person.

826
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 2: It's not real.

827
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 3: So it's that staying cult of shit, and I think

828
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 3: it's it's the reason I don't fuck with it because

829
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 3: it because you put so much effort in the this

830
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 3: person is a representative of me in perfect and flawless,

831
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 3: because that's what I want to be, and when they

832
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 3: turn out to be human, you have to tear them

833
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 3: down because that also proves you're morally better than them

834
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 3: and perfect and flawless.

835
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 2: Fuck you. I don't want that. That shit ain't love

836
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 2: or fairness. Leave me the fuck alone.

837
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 4: No, And you ask that question, have you ever been left?

838
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 4: For some of them, the answers to that question is no.

839
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 4: So when they have never been loved, they've been on

840
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 4: all these abusive and fucked up relationships to So for

841
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 4: some of them, this is their definition of love. So

842
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 4: for them, this is how I expressed myself because this

843
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 4: is how love was showed to me and meanness and cruelness.

844
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 4: So this is me showing I, quote unquote love you

845
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 4: when that's not love. Baby.

846
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 2: That's the other thing I remember saying on the show

847
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 2: a while ago.

848
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 3: I'm like, we've got on social media, we have gotten

849
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 3: to the point where actually, forgiven, somebody is being radical now.

850
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 4: Yes.

851
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 3: And it's also why I don't believe these people when

852
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 3: they say that, like one, I don't. I just tend

853
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 3: not to believe people on both sides of this equation.

854
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 3: I don't believe the burn it all down motherfuckers because

855
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 3: they not about that life either, because it was just

856
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 3: something to say while you watch the City's burn from

857
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 3: George Floyd from the comfort of your house, burn it

858
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 3: all down. Fuck the system, because at the end of

859
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 3: the day, you not really about that, you go get

860
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,439
Speaker 3: a gun and start killing some people, then not gonna

861
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 3: do that, right, right, So let's everyone calm down a

862
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 3: little bit. We're not fucking really gonna take over the

863
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 3: streets like that anyway. But then the second part of

864
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 3: is I never really believe the people that were like,

865
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 3: I'm a prison abolitions, we need to reform, We're gonna

866
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 3: forget because you need forgiveness to do that.

867
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: You know where it starts. It starts from a place

868
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 2: of saying.

869
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 3: I don't want you to die of a horrible disease,

870
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 3: maybe able to Verne's watched some of her friends die

871
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 3: this horrible disease and said the same thing. A lot

872
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 3: of people say, I just would not wish this on anyone,

873
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 3: And if that's their dogma, cool, because you know what

874
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 3: my dogma is voting this motherfucker out. So if that's

875
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 3: gonna happen, I'll accept that because I don't care or

876
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,479
Speaker 3: believe anyone's wishes are gonna fucking matter for this dude.

877
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 3: So what I would wish niggas do is let's go

878
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 3: try to get him out of the paint, you know.

879
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 3: So it was just weird and just Twitter shit. Ms

880
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 3: Mary's Smile said sowred ratchiness today about the bipolar lady

881
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 3: Colin and threatening the official hat me dying tears alling

882
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,439
Speaker 3: down my face. I needed that, Thank you, and still

883
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 3: have AOL email though I've upgraded from dial up.

884
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: You got mailed.

885
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 3: Kim Doc says, I'm not throwing Abel away, especially not

886
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 3: when I actually agree with her.

887
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 2: People need to truly get a grip.

888
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 3: She never meant our people harm, focused your ire on

889
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,479
Speaker 3: the true evil. I still see black men going boral

890
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 3: with tweets about Kamala locking up your uncle's on marijuana

891
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 3: chargers and the lesser to evils bullshit. Shut the fuck

892
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 3: up and leave us out of your dumb shit. Everybody

893
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 3: get out the vote please. Yeah, it's also weird, Kim Doc,

894
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 3: because I've noticed that like Uncle Luke the rapper, he

895
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 3: just did a tweet where he demanded Joe Biden come

896
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 3: speak to him, like.

897
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: Pitbull the City Girls, Rick Ross.

898
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 3: It was like a bunch of rappers and shit like

899
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 3: if you don't sit down with us at the table,

900
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,439
Speaker 3: then we not voting, and da da dadah or whatever

901
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,959
Speaker 3: you know, implying that we and It's like people would

902
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 3: come at them and be like, fuck you shut the

903
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 3: fuck up saint the time, blah blah, and I'm like, okay,

904
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 3: how you the same people that y'all been encouraging this

905
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 3: type of irresponsibility and going, we can't shame people, Well,

906
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 3: you're shaming them right now. You're clearly shaming their dumb asses.

907
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 3: And keep in mind, I'm with this, I'm with the

908
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 3: shit shame them niggas. This is a shameful that y'all

909
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 3: would come in and motherfucking the middle of October still

910
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 3: acting uninformed, like that's ridiculous to me. But it's funny

911
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 3: when the shamee's supposed to work, Hain't it? Like we

912
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 3: can shame Kanye West by dunking on him on Twitter?

913
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 3: That's okay, you know, Like it's just so fucking arbitrary.

914
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 3: And what you find out is that shame does work.

915
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 3: They just don't ever want to feel shamed. They don't

916
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 3: ever want to deal with any responsibilities for.

917
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 2: The shit that they do.

918
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 3: That's it, because you, if you speaking of, could have

919
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 3: shut the fuck up everybody who's on that.

920
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: I'm not voting.

921
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 3: I don't give a fuck fuck y'all could tell could

922
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 3: keep that to themselves.

923
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: Everyone who's undecided could keep that for themselves. Everyone who's like,

924
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 2: I'm holding my vote and tell him you could keep

925
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: that to yourselves.

926
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 3: So shut the shut the fuck up with the we

927
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 3: got Listen, we can't shame people. You literally do it

928
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 3: all the goddamn time. You just pick and choose. When

929
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 3: you shame people who do vote and call us sheep

930
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 3: and tell us we ain't getting nothing for our votes.

931
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 2: That's also shaming. So get the fuck out of here.

932
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 2: It's all bullshit.

933
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, I just think it's weird that people want

934
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 3: all every black person to fall in line on this,

935
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 3: and it's like, that's not possible.

936
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: What is possible is that motherfuckers could have a little

937
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 2: bit of fucking.

938
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 3: The same sensitivity they want us to have for black

939
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 3: people who are like, I'm not voting.

940
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: Fuck this system.

941
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 3: You can have that for Avid Verney, but you chose

942
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 3: not to, right, Like, you could have just as much

943
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 3: been like, I understand her frustration as well.

944
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 2: So when this one person calling.

945
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 3: Us sheep and I tell y'all take it easy on them,

946
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 3: you could say, when she goes, look if we don't

947
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 3: fucking vote, we gonna deserve what we get.

948
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: You could take it easy on her too, so way no.

949
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 4: And also is one of those things to where a

950
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 4: lot of people know that that similar to Obama, they

951
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 4: know Joe Bima will listen. That's why a lot of

952
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 4: these people are coming at the woodworks because they know

953
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 4: he'll listen to whatever they bring up to him. So

954
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 4: truth be told, I don't fault them for that. I

955
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 4: don't fault them for going ay. You know, I have

956
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 4: some opinions. You know, come and listen to me, and

957
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 4: come and talk to me. It's not unreasonable. I think

958
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 4: people just get mad because of who it is, and

959
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 4: they just assume that not all, but they just assume

960
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 4: that just because you rap and you entertain me and

961
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 4: your your lyrics, ay, shake my ass and all this

962
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 4: shit that you automatically stupid, you're automatically dumb. You don't

963
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 4: know what you're talking about, and you have no political

964
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 4: uh investment whatsoever? Some something. Some Sometimes I say that,

965
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 4: baby true, But sometimes I say that baby false because

966
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 4: sometimes they might do stuff and might not be public

967
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 4: about it. So I understand them going this. But the

968
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 4: problem that a lot lot of people have is we

969
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 4: don't mind you doing it, but we're just saying why

970
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 4: didn't you do this month Togo, Like why are you

971
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 4: waiting so close to the election. And in my opinion,

972
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people are doing this because

973
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 4: they're scared, they're frightened, they're frustrated, they don't know what

974
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 4: to do. They got all this pent up energy, the

975
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 4: coronavirus out there, They're mad at Trump and this is

976
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 4: just somebody to focus their attention on.

977
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 2: Because they want the attention.

978
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 3: Yes, they literally said, stop everything, come sit at my

979
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 3: table or else, I'm not voting for you, So.

980
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 2: They can't be like I can't believe people getting mad.

981
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 3: You actually want the attention, yes, like you you courted

982
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 3: this attention on purpose, like you knew people would be.

983
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 3: Here's the thing for me, Karen, at this point in

984
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 3: the process, I don't like ignorance masquerading as some type

985
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 3: of intelligence. If you still don't know the difference between

986
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 3: the candidates in fucking October, you're not helping.

987
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck if it's Luke, I don't

988
00:46:59,000 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 2: give a fuck if it's Jesse.

989
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 3: Like at this point, there's things intelligent people are doing,

990
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:06,919
Speaker 3: and there's things that ego maniacs are doing.

991
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 2: And what really really speaks to me here? You know

992
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: who will invite you to the table.

993
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 3: Trump Donald Trump invites black people to the table all

994
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 3: the time. He don't do shit for us, but he'll

995
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 3: invite your ass so that you can have the ego

996
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 3: stroke of appearing next to the man who's president taking

997
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:26,720
Speaker 3: a picture.

998
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 2: He loves that shit.

999
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 3: He'll let Kanye West dance on top of his fucking

1000
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 3: over office desk if he wants to. That's what the

1001
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 3: fuck he does. So when I see black people pulling

1002
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 3: this shit out at this Lake juncture, my point, my

1003
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 3: it immediately goes, what's so with your ego on this?

1004
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 3: Because it's what other play is there at this point?

1005
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1006
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 3: Like because you're they're not organizing, Like it would be

1007
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 3: different if they were organizing a whole bunch of votes

1008
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 3: and they had this voting block and they were like,

1009
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 3: we will move. When I say we move, okay, well

1010
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 3: you did the groundwork to do that. You made yourself.

1011
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 3: You're just literally saying I'm a famous rapper from this area.

1012
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 3: You need to come talk to me.

1013
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: And it's been ice Cube and it's been Uncle.

1014
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 4: Louke and I think Ice keep started it.

1015
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, are killing Mike.

1016
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 3: It's been these people that I'm like, nah, this is

1017
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 3: fucked up, you know what I mean. So that's where

1018
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 3: I think I find that to be different than just

1019
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 3: all they rappers, and I don't respect their intelligence.

1020
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 2: Sure, there's some people that are gonna say that.

1021
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 3: I agree, but also this is stupid, Like what you're

1022
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 3: doing is fucked up and stupid right now.

1023
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know Joe Biden.

1024
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 3: I maybe if we talk, you come meet with me

1025
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 3: impromptu tonight at my house, Like what the fuck?

1026
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 2: Like this is crazy right now? Does this seem like

1027
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 2: the fucking time, you.

1028
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 4: Know, And most of them should be told, should be

1029
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 4: like vote, get your ads out there and motherfucking vote.

1030
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's other people that are rappers that have been

1031
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 3: involved in the process from from four years now. They're

1032
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 3: not catching flak, but they're also not stupid enough to

1033
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 3: be out here. Like guess what, y'all, I'm not voting

1034
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 3: unless Joe Biden come to my house, Like come on, now,

1035
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

1036
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 2: So to me, it's not about them being rappers. This

1037
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 2: is just stupid no matter who would be doing it.

1038
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 3: At this moment in my opinion, but the poem was

1039
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 3: able to vernet she's dope, she I, or she's canceled.

1040
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 2: The shot. The results will shock you. She's dope.

1041
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 3: Eighty percent of our audience things a's dope, she I?

1042
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 3: Twenty percent they probably didn't like them anti comments I

1043
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 3: hear you, I hear you, and zero percent thought she

1044
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 3: was canceled.

1045
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 2: So I you know this once again.

1046
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 3: Twitter is one place, and to me, the main lesson

1047
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 3: I've taken from Twitter in the last year or so

1048
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 3: is just it's not real and doesn't mean everyone on

1049
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 3: there is not a real person. It just means that's

1050
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 3: not reality. That's like a virtual reality. People go into

1051
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 3: unpopular opinions are popular. Cruelty is the is the way

1052
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 3: to communicated.

1053
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just not how.

1054
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 3: People in real life typically handle themselves. And the kind

1055
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 3: of people that would be like the outlier in real

1056
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 3: life where we will be in a room full of

1057
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 3: people and they say like something that we'd be like,

1058
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 3: what niggas, what are you talking? Like if I went

1059
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 3: into a room full of black people and they were

1060
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 3: talking and they were voters, and I said, kamala a cop.

1061
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 3: Most people are looking at me and be like this nigga,

1062
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 3: shut the fuck up. But in Twitter, Kamala as a

1063
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 3: cop guy is everywhere and they can find all the

1064
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 3: other Kamala as a cop guy. And now they grouped

1065
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 3: up and they got their own corner of the room

1066
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,919
Speaker 3: and it feels like they taken over the room when really,

1067
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 3: in real life, we all know.

1068
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 2: That one crazy uncle that thinks she's a cop. You know.

1069
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 3: The next episode is twenty one ninety four Alex Haley's

1070
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 3: glutes and says, I've also noticed the constant reminder that

1071
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,280
Speaker 3: the underdeveloped nations that won't survive apendandemic two yea atual,

1072
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 3: we talked about how a lot of scientists are like

1073
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 3: how we're baffled to how Africa is not being destroyed

1074
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 3: and ravaged by COVID. After about the unexpected effect of

1075
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 3: COVID in the Southern hemisphere Africa and South America.

1076
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 2: I have a theory.

1077
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 3: The key is the common blood type of each population.

1078
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 3: Research from Italy and Spain has shown that type A

1079
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 3: blood type has a higher likelihood to get infected and

1080
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,720
Speaker 3: experienced worse symptoms. Type O and AB have lower chances

1081
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 3: of infection.

1082
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 2: And bad symptoms. Here's a summary of the study, there's

1083
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:30,439
Speaker 2: a link.

1084
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 3: So if you look at the distribution of blood types globally,

1085
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 3: Type A occurs predominantly in the Northern europe areas where

1086
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 3: Northern Europeans migrated to. Type O is most common among

1087
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 3: Indigenous Americans, Asians, and Africans. Type B occurs mostly in Asia,

1088
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 3: so the naturally lower probably so the naturally lower probability

1089
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 3: of infection and severity of symptoms may be dampening the

1090
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 3: effect of Arsenese areas. You can't use North America as

1091
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 3: a god for this theory, as most people have pointed

1092
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 3: out the black and brown people in North America who

1093
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 3: are dying from COVID tend to be poor and don't

1094
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 3: have access to good health care. So the blood type

1095
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 3: advantage that may exist due to ancestris offset by poor healthcare.

1096
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Speaker 2: Just theory.

1097
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 4: Yes, I could see that.

1098
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the hell of a theory. And I haven't

1099
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 3: done that research, but I mean, yeah, maybe that's it.

1100
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 3: I'd I heard a lot of shit.

1101
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, like that could be understanding that, it would make

1102
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,760
Speaker 4: a lot of sense. It's like, yeah, normally this had goes,

1103
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 4: but when you have bad health care and no, that

1104
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 4: shit matters.

1105
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, who knows, let's see, uh, Vinyl Collector says, hot,

1106
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,439
Speaker 3: Because I mean people. The other thing is, we don't

1107
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 3: know that much about different places in Africa. I'm not

1108
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 3: that fucking bursting that shit. And I'm subject to a

1109
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:48,720
Speaker 3: lot of propaganda and and and anti blackness and stuff

1110
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,760
Speaker 3: from other places. So you know, the things I learned

1111
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 3: about Africa when I was younger was a bunch of bullshit.

1112
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 4: It's learn some bullshit about us too.

1113
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1114
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 3: So so I don't I don't feel like I really

1115
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 3: have much place to speak on the workings of the

1116
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 3: continent because I don't know enough to be talking with

1117
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 3: any level of authority about health care, about blood type,

1118
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 3: about tracking of.

1119
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 2: The numbers and stuff.

1120
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 3: And I think people get behind a mic and they

1121
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 3: talk with so much fucking authority. It's like sometimes you

1122
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 3: don't fucking know, and it's okay. There's be somebody else

1123
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 3: that does know, and that's their lane and they'll talk

1124
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 3: about it. And if I know who that is, I'll

1125
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 3: point you in their direction. Agreed, Vinyl Collector says, hi,

1126
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,399
Speaker 3: Rod and Careen. First and foremost, I want to say

1127
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 3: a huge congratulations on your clearest radio announcer voice.

1128
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 2: Exclusive exclusive exclusive Spotify deal deal deal ha ha. I

1129
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 2: love it. Will you guys do that.

1130
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 3: I've listened for a long time and have been so

1131
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 3: appreciative for your podcast.

1132
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 2: I've written in before and said and I mean it.

1133
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 2: We're friends.

1134
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 3: In my head, you deserve this and all additional success

1135
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 3: that it is surely coming your way. Excited to see

1136
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 3: what's next for you.

1137
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:58,959
Speaker 2: I wanted to comment on a discussion at the beginning

1138
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 2: of the day's episode on it anxiety and that sounded

1139
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 2: like some backlash where I received on social media.

1140
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 3: Thank you for being so open with how you were

1141
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 3: feeling it about it. I think at one point you

1142
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 3: talked about how disproportionate people's response was to what you said,

1143
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 3: and maybe talked a little about how it might be

1144
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 3: a function of social media and how people gang up

1145
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 3: in that environment. But I also want to offer another

1146
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 3: potential reason. I've learned through therapy that I have certain triggers,

1147
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 3: and once I made aware of it, started noticing in

1148
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 3: my own life that I would have had these massive

1149
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 3: reactions to things that people said or did that weren't

1150
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 3: really a big deal because they were quote unquote triggering

1151
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 3: for me.

1152
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 2: When I stepped back and thought about it.

1153
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 3: I realized my reaction was because what they said reminded

1154
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 3: me of someone who did worse or an event that

1155
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 3: they were reminding me of that was traumatic for me.

1156
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,479
Speaker 3: So I actually wasn't reacting to what that person sitting

1157
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 3: in front of me was saying or doing. I was

1158
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 3: reacting almost impulsively, based on what I experienced before. That

1159
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 3: may have been some of what you were experiencing for

1160
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 3: those people on social media saying with ava too, could be?

1161
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 2: Could be? I think that's definitely possible, although I would say.

1162
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 3: From what we've learned about social media, we also know

1163
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 3: that it is a place that can affect our mental health.

1164
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,479
Speaker 3: So whether that be because it reminds us of things

1165
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 3: offline or literally just some of these are online phenomena

1166
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 3: that just did not exist because we didn't have this

1167
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 3: much access to each other ten years ago, and so

1168
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 3: some of this is new, like the idea of someone

1169
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 3: saying something like there was a time where like if

1170
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 3: you said something that was unpopular, only someone who knew

1171
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 3: you would hear it. Yes, someone who was in proximity

1172
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,280
Speaker 3: to you would hear it, right, unless you were deemed

1173
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 3: to have some type of you know, like you had

1174
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 3: a TV show or radio show or something, but now

1175
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 3: you could just start an account and you don't even

1176
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 3: have to be famous or anything. You could just have

1177
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 3: an opinion that enough people disagree with that it becomes

1178
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 3: a thing.

1179
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 2: You know, We've seen people get fired off this stuff.

1180
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 3: We've seen people commit suicide based off of social media.

1181
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 2: We've seen people come depressed.

1182
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 3: We've seen a lot of stuff. You know, It's exacerbated

1183
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 3: people's mental illness. We've seen bullying, We've seen someone become

1184
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 3: president based off of social media. So it could, like

1185
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 3: I'm not knocking what you're saying, I'm just saying it

1186
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 3: could be that it quote unquote triggers me because of

1187
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 3: some other deeper experience offline, which is totally possible. Or

1188
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 3: it could be an online phenomenon as well. You know,

1189
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 3: I bet some of the people that went in on

1190
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 3: her were triggered by something she said. Of course, I'm

1191
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 3: still working on myself to recognize when that's happening to

1192
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 3: have different response, but I can say that I'm still

1193
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 3: guilty of it. I also feel you on anxiety, I

1194
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 3: don't become paralyzed that physical reaction. By'm someone who can

1195
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 3: replay a thing over and over and over again in

1196
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 3: my head for a long period of time. Sometimes I

1197
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 3: can hold onto it for months and sometimes even years.

1198
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 3: Me too, By the way, I'm not sure that's anxiety,

1199
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 3: but I'm learning through therapy that's not healthy.

1200
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 2: Yep. Anyway, thank you for sparking these conversations that congratulations again,

1201
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 2: love y'all. Thank you for right now. Thank you, And yeah,

1202
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.

1203
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 3: It could be like you said, like I said something

1204
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 3: that's offline and I just haven't thought about it yet

1205
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 3: or haven't figured out what it is.

1206
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 2: But I don't know, Like it's not something that.

1207
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 3: It didn't make me feel like, oh man, a long

1208
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 3: time ago this type of thing happened. It's not something

1209
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 3: that honestly, it's not even something I really used to

1210
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 3: feel like that until social media that I'm aware of,

1211
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 3: But maybe I don't know. More work to do, as

1212
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 3: always peel back the layers of that on you.

1213
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 2: Farres says, thank you for having these discussions. At the

1214
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 2: top of the show. We're all going through this, so

1215
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 2: it's dope that you're creating a space to process the info.

1216
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 3: One of the things that helped me process. The way

1217
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 3: folks weaponized victimhood came from Rick and Morty. Oddly enough,

1218
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 3: on that Worldly Darly episode when Rick breaks down to

1219
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 3: Jerry that he pretends to be a victim, but he's

1220
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 3: really a predator for whatever reason.

1221
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 2: That's the shit that made it click for me. Yo, that, yeah,

1222
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 2: Jerry's a great example.

1223
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 4: Jerry's terrible.

1224
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, and weaponizing victimhood. I've been recognizing that shit in

1225
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 3: so many places ever since. Realizations can sometimes come from

1226
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 3: the strangest places. Happy to hear your creating safe spaces

1227
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 3: for you to think through and feel through all this.

1228
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 3: People use safe space as a pejority, but we all

1229
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 3: need them, and a lot of folks will be healthier

1230
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 3: we have safe spaces.

1231
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 2: In our lives.

1232
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know me, man, I don't feel like no

1233
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 3: space is safe, but you know, I think the podcast

1234
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 3: the closest we get to it for ourselves, where we

1235
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 3: get to like express some things and be work through

1236
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 3: some things and be like, maybe this is wrong, maybe

1237
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 3: it's not, you know, and kind of feedback with each

1238
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 3: other and see like how you know, at least try

1239
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 3: to come from a place of understanding. I just know

1240
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 3: that a place of understanding is just not something you're

1241
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 3: gonna find online very often.

1242
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 4: Correct.

1243
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,959
Speaker 3: But mil seventy three says, the twelve years of slave

1244
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 3: workout almost took me out control.

1245
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 2: But laughter while driving is never good.

1246
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 3: Imagine black Bridge shut that shit down by shouting block

1247
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 3: lives my top. Matha Amel says, block lives my Uh,

1248
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 3: come on, have you ever had an anxiety attack?

1249
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm not sure or no, Karen.

1250
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 4: I don't know about an attack, but I have had

1251
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 4: anxiety and I did not realize it was anxiety. But

1252
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 4: I know now, particularly when COVID first hit and I

1253
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 4: used to come home. Every time I would leave the house,

1254
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 4: I would have anxiety. I would be at work all day,

1255
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 4: I would have anxiety. I didn't want anybody. This is

1256
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 4: before the mass requirements and shit would have. I was like, no, no,

1257
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 4: don't be around me, give me space, like get away

1258
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 4: from me. I get home, I would take off my clothes,

1259
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 4: I will wash it. I would be in a panic.

1260
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 4: I you know, it's one of them things. I was like,

1261
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 4: oh my god, I don't want to go in there

1262
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 4: and get the COVID, you know, because like I said,

1263
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 4: I thought at that time it was so much misinformation.

1264
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 4: I just wanted to be safe. I know, being at

1265
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 4: home was being safe, and outside of the house just

1266
00:59:59,000 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 4: sit me in a panic.

1267
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think anxiety is part of life.

1268
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 3: I think an anxiety attack is a little bit more debilitating,

1269
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 3: you know, right, like you might not be able to

1270
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 3: function in certain ways and stuff. But yeah, you know,

1271
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 3: I mean I before I think also it takes recognizing

1272
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 3: what it is. And I would say, before this weekend,

1273
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 3: I had never thought of that stuff is anxiety or

1274
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 3: anxiety attacks. Now I go back and look and think

1275
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 3: about just coming up as a kid, I remember there

1276
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 3: was a time my parents probably still remember this. There

1277
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 3: was a time where I would go to school, eat

1278
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 3: lunch and throw up and need to come home. And

1279
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 3: it was happening like often. And I wasn't like sick,

1280
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like it wasn't you know,

1281
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 3: oh because you got this virus or some shit. It

1282
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 3: was just it was happening enough, you know what I mean.

1283
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 3: Especially when I would go to new schools, I would

1284
01:00:55,360 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 3: experience it, especially like right like oftentimes at lunch. You know,

1285
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 3: I couldn't help it, you know.

1286
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 2: I mean when we were in college, there was a

1287
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 2: time where I would throw up after eating sometimes and

1288
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 2: I never knew why. So I don't know.

1289
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 3: I think I've always been an anxious person. I just

1290
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 3: never fucking knew. I never stopped, I never stopped and

1291
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 3: thought about it. And you know, luckily I've made it

1292
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 3: to this age and to this level of privilege to

1293
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 3: even be able to analyze myself, because when you just

1294
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 3: grinding day to day, man, you don't have time to

1295
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 3: stop and think about like why am I this way?

1296
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 2: What's going on with me? And now you know, I

1297
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 2: think about it.

1298
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 3: Over the course of my life, it's like, yeah, certain

1299
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 3: people have made me feel anxious and my body has

1300
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 3: reacted very negatively to that.

1301
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Speaker 4: You know.

1302
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 3: So, but once you know better, then it's like, how

1303
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 3: do I start working on this thing? Because to me,

1304
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 3: what that last person that had written in that longer

1305
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 3: thing about anxiety? Hey man, you know a big thing

1306
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,080
Speaker 3: for me was being like, turn his phone on if

1307
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,959
Speaker 3: it's not real, you know what I mean? These people

1308
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 3: don't know me, like, no one who knows me will

1309
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 3: ever say these things about me. Correct, And that's just

1310
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 3: the truth, you know. And the truth is the same

1311
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 3: for those other people too, like even when I want

1312
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 3: to come back at them about something they said about me.

1313
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 2: The truth is I don't know them. You know, one

1314
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 2: person that got mad at me.

1315
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 3: Follow you said some shit like we've been following each

1316
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 3: other for this long, and I'm like, I, honestly, God

1317
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 3: thought to myself, I don't fucking.

1318
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 2: Know you, right, I don't even know your name, right, don't.

1319
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 2: I don't even know what you truly look like you have.

1320
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1321
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, this is insane that this is bothering me

1322
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 3: this much, and that you're this bothered by the idea

1323
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 3: that after you called me some names, I wouldn't want

1324
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 3: to hang out with you anymore. That's, you know, virtually online,

1325
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 3: Like that's a weird thing. Because if that was real

1326
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 3: life and I called you a name and you said

1327
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 3: you don't want to come out of my house no more.

1328
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 2: I'd be like, that makes sense. I called you names,

1329
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 2: you know, like like it's such a weird thing.

1330
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 3: So so yeah, the Poe yes, sixty one percent, I'm

1331
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 3: not sure, twenty five percent and fourteen percent.

1332
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 2: No, let's see.

1333
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 3: Mwanganghi says, I've had an attack that I knew it

1334
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 3: was an attack at the time, but it was related

1335
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 3: to recreational drug use. Psychoactives can be difficult to deal

1336
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 3: with if you can't surf the wave.

1337
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 2: And I was nineteen year old was zerr experience. Now

1338
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 2: give me some mushroom tea once twice a year in

1339
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 2: the cabin next to a fire.

1340
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 3: During the winter with some friends, and I'm cozy. A

1341
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 3: mom says, thank you again for bringing up the topic.

1342
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 3: Just this year, one of my sisters just caught on

1343
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 3: that I'm clinically depressed, so it's an everyday battle and

1344
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 3: not just a mon is sad today. Also, I have

1345
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 3: seasonal effective disorder, which is I suppose it is slightly

1346
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 3: easier for my family to understand than my depression. It's

1347
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 3: definitely important to continue to open up about it so

1348
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 3: people can understand it. Last year, my husband opened up

1349
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 3: about how he wasn't really prepared for my mental health

1350
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 3: issues before we got married. I've always been open and

1351
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 3: honest about it, but that's still didn't help him truly understand.

1352
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 3: So we're both in therapy and I'm really proud of

1353
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 3: him for going. There's been a difference in the way

1354
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 3: he reacts when I'm at a low point or have

1355
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 3: an anxiety attack. Erasing stigmas doesn't happen overnight. So thank

1356
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 3: you for bringing the topic up again, love you in mind,

1357
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 3: Thank you, right.

1358
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 4: And you know, I'm glad that your husband was even

1359
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 4: open to the point of learning how to deal because

1360
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 4: a lot of times when things happen and find the

1361
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 4: members see people go through stuff, they don't know how

1362
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 4: to deal. Their first reaction a lot of times is

1363
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 4: to retreat, and you know, and the person actually needs

1364
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 4: that support system, but it's one of those things where

1365
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 4: they didn't go to school, they don't have the medical

1366
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 4: degrees in this. They just don't know. And so a

1367
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 4: lot of times when you bring up a I have

1368
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 4: this problem, you know, would you go get help? A

1369
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 4: lot of people refuse that and it becomes like an

1370
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 4: issue in the relationship because you go, what I need

1371
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 4: for you to help me so that you could better

1372
01:04:58,720 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 4: understand me. Right.

1373
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 3: So, and also people are constantly changing, Yes they are.

1374
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 3: So you don't like not no understanding that or knowing

1375
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 3: that when you got married. I mean, that's just life,

1376
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 3: that's true, that's real. It's the same way people want

1377
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 3: to have kids. You had the kids and then like, oh,

1378
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 3: this is harder than our thought. This is different than

1379
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 3: what I thought was gonna be like being married or

1380
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 3: being in a relationship is just a promise to try

1381
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 3: to grow together or try to understand every day.

1382
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 2: It's not It's not an immutable fact because people change

1383
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 2: every day.

1384
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 3: Sugar Base says, Hi, caring and Rod, I'm a week behind,

1385
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 3: but caught up to say congratulations. I'm so proud of

1386
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 3: you too, and I'm happy to have been along for

1387
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 3: the ride and growth. You two work so damn hard,

1388
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 3: and you have.

1389
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 2: To really bring us complete shows. To really bring us

1390
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 2: complete shows, it truly appreciates. It's truly appreciated, and this

1391
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 2: is truly deserved. Rod, I appreciate your candor regarding anxiety.

1392
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 2: When Karen detailed why she's a flight and not fight person,

1393
01:05:57,880 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 2: I was weed in my garden and mumbling, it's me,

1394
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 2: it's me, over and over.

1395
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 3: I definitely decided long ago to shut out things that

1396
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 3: greatly displease or distress me. That includes people. I'm working

1397
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 3: on a more balanced approach and therapy sitting the hudsond

1398
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 3: like lol, yeah.

1399
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 4: Cause it has to be, you know, to an extent,

1400
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 4: it does need to be a more balanced approach. Now

1401
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 4: it's more balanced. At one period of time, it was

1402
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 4: not balanced because I was like, oh no, no, no negativity.

1403
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 4: You got to go like I was immediately like chopping moth,

1404
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 4: cut them off. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope nope.

1405
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 4: You know because I was like, nope, you're adding stress.

1406
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 2: And you know.

1407
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 4: And the thing is, truth be told. When people come

1408
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 4: into your life that just don't come into your life

1409
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:40,919
Speaker 4: their problems, they're issues, their weights. All that shit comes

1410
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 4: into your life too, So you have to think of

1411
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 4: people as a whole and all your problems and issues.

1412
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 4: Guess what it does. It rocks their world too. A

1413
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 4: lot of times people only think about it from their perspective,

1414
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 4: but it's too different. It's like you got a room

1415
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, you have double the baggage

1416
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 4: in the room because everybody don't care who you are.

1417
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 4: Everybody comes with baggage, some for them. I don't care

1418
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 4: if you got a pocketbook or suitcase or for whole

1419
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 4: luggage sets. You coming with some some form of baggage.

1420
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 4: So for me, I had to learn how to balance

1421
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 4: that and also I had to learn how to for

1422
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 4: me person, I had to learn how to put friends

1423
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 4: I have. I have people that I put in categories

1424
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 4: everybody has their categories that I put them in. I

1425
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 4: have some people were friends, then I have some people know.

1426
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 4: You're the person I hang out for this, you're the

1427
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 4: person I hang out for that. Like, we're still cool,

1428
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 4: but I wouldn't quote unquote consider as friends like like

1429
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 4: to me, it's a different. Once I started kind of

1430
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 4: categorizing like that, it made it made it easier for

1431
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 4: my mind, and I didn't. I got to the point

1432
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 4: where I felt like I didn't have to be everything

1433
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 4: to everybody. And also I got to the fact too well,

1434
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 4: you got to recognize the friendship for what it is,

1435
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 4: and you're not gonna be best friends with everybody. You know,

1436
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 4: every everybody. Some people you go, Okay, you're the person

1437
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 4: we just go to the comic book store together. You're

1438
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 4: the person we just go walking together. You the person

1439
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 4: I just go to church. And that's literally the whole relationship.

1440
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 4: Does nothing more to it. It's not deeper. It's a

1441
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 4: superficial relationship, and it is okay to have superficial relationships

1442
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 4: with people. But everybody asks, like everybody has to be

1443
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:13,479
Speaker 4: your best friend. That's not true because everybody's personalities aren't

1444
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 4: the same. You might not have you literally might not

1445
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 4: have the same interest outside of that. And I found

1446
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 4: that it made it easier to get along with people.

1447
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 4: And it's something that I had to do with myself

1448
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 4: because I know me personally. I was the type of

1449
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 4: person that I sought friendships because I was the only child,

1450
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 4: so I sought friendships. I sought approval, and I try

1451
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 4: to force friendships. And I had to know you can't

1452
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 4: force friendships. If a person wants to be friends with you,

1453
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:39,680
Speaker 4: they will, and if they don't, you have to let

1454
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 4: it go and let it be. It is what it is,

1455
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 4: and sometimes you just have to look at the friendship

1456
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 4: and watch it die and be okay with the friendship dying.

1457
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the fight or flight thing is definitely real,

1458
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, I think I'm more of a fighter.

1459
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:00,160
Speaker 3: But there's a cost of that type of fight, know,

1460
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 3: whether it be emotional, whether it be physical or whatever.

1461
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 3: So I was a cost of the fight. And we've

1462
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 3: been encouraged to kind of go no, there is no

1463
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:14,560
Speaker 3: cost and deny it. And that's a huge problem for

1464
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 3: me because I know it's not truly honest for a

1465
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 3: lot of people.

1466
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 2: And until you can be honest with yourself.

1467
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 3: You're never gonna be able to You're never gonna be

1468
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 3: able to truly move past it. You're never gonna be

1469
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 3: able to truly accept things. And I think for me,

1470
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 3: a big part of accepting is the cost of the fight,

1471
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 3: of being like, Okay, so before I would just fight

1472
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 3: and then go it doesn't matter.

1473
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 2: I'm tough, I'm strong. And then when you look back

1474
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 2: and go, nah, I was fucking I was fucked up

1475
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 2: off of that fight. You know, I felt bad off

1476
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 2: of that.

1477
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 3: I thought about the obsessed about this thing for weeks, months, days, years,

1478
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:52,640
Speaker 3: and I.

1479
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:54,680
Speaker 2: Go, Okay, there was a cost of that. You know.

1480
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 3: So how what am I learning for the next conflict?

1481
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 3: What I'm learning how to handle the next the next

1482
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 3: situation that may not have to even be a conflict?

1483
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 3: Doud Well, how do I handle that in the future?

1484
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 4: Yeah? And before I move on? My thing is this

1485
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 4: A lot of times people I'm not trying to find that.

1486
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 4: People think it's strength and fighting, which it is, but

1487
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 4: people fail to realize there is strength in running away too,

1488
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 4: which people have a tendency not to think of the

1489
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 4: people that don't. Their first reaction is not fight. They're

1490
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 4: weak and there's something wrong with them. But a lot

1491
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 4: of times those people that actually analyze the situation and go,

1492
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 4: I pick and choose what I what what I put

1493
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 4: my fight in is not I can't fight every battle.

1494
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 4: So they've decided if I fight, you're gonna get one

1495
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 4: hundred percent out of this fight. You're not gonna get

1496
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 4: fifty percent. No, if I decide to stake my ground here,

1497
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 4: oh it's going to be a battle. But a lot

1498
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 4: of people, that's a lot of people are shocked and

1499
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 4: surprised when the people that you know have a tendency

1500
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:58,879
Speaker 4: not to fight on everything stand their ground and everybody's

1501
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 4: in the room shocked, and that they're less shocked because

1502
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 4: they go, oh, no, no, not you. And it's not

1503
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 4: that it's just fact, no, no, you have pushed me

1504
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 4: to the point that I've decided to fight here. A

1505
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 4: lot of times too, Pictoe, those people are the most

1506
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 4: dangerous because those people are like, no, no, I've analyzed it,

1507
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,640
Speaker 4: I've thought about it, and you're gonna get all this

1508
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 4: business right here. Yeah.

1509
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 2: And that's the thing. I'm more of that type of person.

1510
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 3: So even because I'm very patient, so even when I

1511
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 3: do decide to make a stand on something. It wasn't

1512
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 3: the first. It's never reactionary. I'm not a reactionary person.

1513
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 3: I'm very much like, Okay, it could let me consider.

1514
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 2: It all the past. It could be that. It could

1515
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:34,760
Speaker 2: be that.

1516
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 3: But then once I decide like, okay, I'm gonna have

1517
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:40,600
Speaker 3: to fight this person, I'm you know, they were in

1518
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 3: junior high school. I was this kid that was picking

1519
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 3: on me, and he's I don't know why he just

1520
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 3: chose me to be the kid he picked on.

1521
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 2: Probably because I was only black kid. Uh, I was

1522
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 2: only black boy in the academically gifted program. And so

1523
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 2: this white kid just single me out as the one

1524
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 2: he wanted to fucking talk shit about. And he didn't

1525
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 2: he didn't know. You know, I'm from Yorkwood. I'm right,

1526
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 2: I'm raised on the South Side.

1527
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:15,600
Speaker 3: Like this is like, yeah, fighting people in my neighborhood

1528
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 3: was just part of living in the neighborhood. Like you're

1529
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 3: gonna have to fucking occasionally, you're gonna have to throw

1530
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 3: hands at the basketball court, at the bus stop if

1531
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 3: you just kind of want. I'm not saying it should

1532
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 3: be that way, I honestly wish, looking back in hindsight,

1533
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 3: I think about how much trauma black people have gone

1534
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 3: through and we don't even know because.

1535
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 4: We just, oh shit, hurt.

1536
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, so much is just a way of life, whether

1537
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 3: it's hitting at home, for hitting your children, whether it's

1538
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 3: going to the bus stop hitting each other, whether it's

1539
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,719
Speaker 3: police and school officials hitting us with all this stuff.

1540
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 3: So anyway, he didn't know that I come from this background,

1541
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 3: you know, and not that I'm special. A lot of

1542
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 3: black people come from this background. It's just literally part

1543
01:12:55,040 --> 01:13:00,040
Speaker 3: of being black in certain areas. And so he he

1544
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 3: would pick on me in school and stuff. And my

1545
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 3: dad was a kind of person that's like, you don't

1546
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 3: fight people unless you have unless you have to defend

1547
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 3: yourself period. If not, you're gonna get in trouble when

1548
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 3: you get home. So don't don't be out here picking

1549
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 3: on nobody. Don't be out here starting a necessary fight.

1550
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 3: That may have something to do with why I'm so

1551
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 3: patient and also part of why.

1552
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:23,839
Speaker 2: I can I have anxiety.

1553
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:24,640
Speaker 5: Right, So.

1554
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 3: This kid was picking on me, and I let him

1555
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 3: think that I was a kind of person that would

1556
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:36,759
Speaker 3: not fight him. You know, I never acted like scared,

1557
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 3: but I just let him know, like, okay, man, like

1558
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 3: you're saying a bunch of wild shit to me.

1559
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna just leave it alone. I'm gonna try to

1560
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 2: play it down, play it, you know.

1561
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 3: And it didn't matter what I did. If I tried

1562
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 3: to joke it off, he just keep going. If I

1563
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:51,639
Speaker 3: try to, you know, move okay, Well I'm gonna move away.

1564
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 3: So one day we were in pe class together.

1565
01:13:55,640 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 2: And he was picking on me when we were playing

1566
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 2: some sport. I forget. It was like a teen sport,

1567
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 2: and so.

1568
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:07,639
Speaker 3: I finally I think it might have been basketball something,

1569
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 3: But I finally like did something and talk shit like

1570
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 3: I scored on him or something, or I blocked the

1571
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 3: shot or whatever, and he just starts talking shit. He

1572
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 3: follows me all the way to the locker room. Now

1573
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 3: what he doesn't know is I've been ready to whoop

1574
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 3: his ass for a long time. So I just I

1575
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:27,600
Speaker 3: just I just didn't want to get in trouble like that.

1576
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 3: Was like I mostly was like, if I'm gonna fight you,

1577
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 3: I need to be able to come home, because that

1578
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 3: was justify my action. Yeah, there was another time I

1579
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 3: beat the ship out of this kid because he was

1580
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 3: talking about my mama, and I thought that was a

1581
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 3: good enough reason and I ended up getting one of

1582
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 3: the whoopings in my lifetime because that's not a good

1583
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 3: enough reason. Apparently, in my house, you can't just be

1584
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 3: like he was talking about my mama and everybody get

1585
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 3: talked about it.

1586
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 5: Right.

1587
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 3: My dad was like, I'm not with that. You got

1588
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 3: to get a whooping. So so I ended up going

1589
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 3: into the locker room. And the way the locker bo

1590
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,639
Speaker 3: his locker room was there was there was a bench

1591
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 3: in the middle of the lockers.

1592
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 2: There's lockers on one side, lockers on the other side.

1593
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 2: The bench is about knee.

1594
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 3: Level, right, and so his locker was on the other

1595
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 3: side of the bench, and I turned my back to

1596
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 3: him and was like, I'm opening up my locker. But

1597
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 3: I knew the whole time he's gonna come in and

1598
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 3: talk shit. And he because he thought I just talked shit.

1599
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:24,759
Speaker 3: That's what he thought was. Oh, Rod is a person

1600
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 3: that lets I've been talking shit to him. We had

1601
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 3: a couple run ins, but it's never really been an

1602
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:30,839
Speaker 3: altercation that gotten physical.

1603
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 2: He's never really come back at me. And so I

1604
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 2: used the leverage. I just like he was talking shit,

1605
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 2: and he pushed my shoulder, and I used the leverage

1606
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 2: of the bench, being that it was knee knee level.

1607
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 2: I yanked his.

1608
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 3: Ass up by his collar of his shirt and used

1609
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 3: that leverage to throw his ass down on the ground

1610
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 3: because he fell and I beat the ship out of him.

1611
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:55,679
Speaker 2: And then I walked straight into.

1612
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 3: The principal's office and say, y'all need to call my parents,

1613
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 3: and y'all need to because I had to defend myself

1614
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 3: and I don't want there to be no misunderstandings about

1615
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 3: what just happened. And uh, to my to my advantage,

1616
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 3: he ran into the principal office behind me, yelling about

1617
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 3: he was gonna whoop my ass and shit, and they

1618
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 3: was like, oh, yeah, we see exactly what happened here.

1619
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:20,599
Speaker 4: He basically showed him himself being the aggressor.

1620
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I think after that maybe they called

1621
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 3: our parents, or maybe we had another one or two

1622
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 3: run ins before our parents got involved and his parents

1623
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 3: finally made him stop, you know whatever.

1624
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 2: But that so that's how I've always been.

1625
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 3: So if you even hear me talking bad about somebody

1626
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 3: or altercation, I thought about it.

1627
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 2: I don't ever just snap on.

1628
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 3: People like that, even you know, even when it is

1629
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 3: social media. I don't ever just come right back, fuck

1630
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 3: you motherfucker. Like that's never my reactions. I was like, huh, well,

1631
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 3: what is this?

1632
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 2: Why are they feeling, you know, trying to story out

1633
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 2: of it?

1634
01:16:57,200 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 3: So my fight or flight is different, Like even my

1635
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:05,639
Speaker 3: fight is not a normally a immediate reaction to stress.

1636
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 2: So all right.

1637
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 3: The next episode was twenty one ninety five Lydia Secure

1638
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 3: as a Bag or Walking Dad recap.

1639
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 2: Chem doc says this is well worth the wait.

1640
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 3: I like how the entire situation felt completely hopeless for

1641
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 3: our heroes and yet systemically not always seamless or perfect.

1642
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:26,679
Speaker 3: They made their plan work. We tried to tell y'all

1643
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 3: niggas to stop effing with our heroes, didn't.

1644
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 2: We you will not win.

1645
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 3: They needed to give us a little bit more about

1646
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:34,680
Speaker 3: Connie to pull it together. But I also like how

1647
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:38,599
Speaker 3: Magnet's story checks out and kept our hopes alive. Yeah,

1648
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 3: you know, what I keep thinking is that we might

1649
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 3: get a Connie episode or something, or like a heavy

1650
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 3: backstory on Connie. I'm not saying they will do it

1651
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 3: because I feel like the new showrunner hasn't. I don't

1652
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 3: think she's done one of those yet, so maybe, you know.

1653
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 4: I can see just to see what happened to her,

1654
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:57,560
Speaker 4: even if it's not the whole episode, like one of

1655
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 4: them cold openness where we just follow her for frost

1656
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 4: five minutes and then go to commercial. Yes that, Yes,

1657
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 4: I like them like that something like that, Yes, because

1658
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 4: sometimes it's not worth a whole episode. Sometimes, like you said,

1659
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 4: you just come in, here's what happened. Now that's gone

1660
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:14,719
Speaker 4: with the rest of the episode.

1661
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, So hopefully we get something like that because I

1662
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 3: do want to know what are the exact circumstances, Like

1663
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 3: I know, she wasn't laid out for weeks, so something

1664
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 3: had to happen.

1665
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:25,640
Speaker 2: Let's see now.

1666
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:28,759
Speaker 3: Hopefully that worthless Nigga brings Connie I hate him, brings

1667
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 3: Connie to Maggie's spot.

1668
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 2: Maggie is gonna take great care of Judith and RJ.

1669
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:34,680
Speaker 3: All the communities are done for and I hate that,

1670
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 3: but I always love when they start a new Yeah,

1671
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 3: you know, maybe we'll get a time jump and we'll

1672
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 3: see they rebuilt Hilltop.

1673
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 4: Or I think we're getting ready get into the time jump.

1674
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 3: Can't wait for Daryl and Carroll and hopefully Connie can't

1675
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 3: wait for Rick and Michean.

1676
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, ever since they really introduced them time jumps.

1677
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 3: I feel like they can just kind of rebuild the

1678
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 3: set and be like it's five years later.

1679
01:18:57,920 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 4: They can go into a year later, it's two years later.

1680
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:01,679
Speaker 4: It don't even have to be a lot. It could

1681
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 4: be six months. It don't even have to be a

1682
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 4: loan period of time.

1683
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, but when we went ten years into the future,

1684
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 3: that's when I was like, Oh, they they about the ship.

1685
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 2: They don't give a fuck. Which battles do y'all think

1686
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 2: was the most epic one for our heroes? What's your

1687
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 2: favorite episodes? Battles? That was my most epic.

1688
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 3: Savior battles pretty epic obviously, I think the battle with

1689
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:31,639
Speaker 3: the governor at the prison pretty epic. But I think

1690
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 3: for me, my favorite is just favorite. One of my

1691
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:40,640
Speaker 3: favorite episodes and favorite battles is Terminus. Terminus was the

1692
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 3: one where this show was just in his bag.

1693
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 2: Carol saved the day. No one saw that coming. It

1694
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:50,440
Speaker 2: was right after rick Ate that Niggas.

1695
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 4: Thrown out to save Carl doing the whole commercial break.

1696
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 3: Like, that's when the show was at its motherfucking peak

1697
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 3: and the de Terminus was the one because I don't

1698
01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 3: think Terminus was even in the comics.

1699
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 2: So like seeing them do that. That's when I was like,

1700
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:09,720
Speaker 2: this show is top notch. What about you?

1701
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 4: I guess you know, it's so many I don't really.

1702
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 2: I think my.

1703
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:26,719
Speaker 4: Favorite mm hmm. That that's hard. I think my favorite

1704
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 4: episode is the Gotta Be. I enjoyed Terminus, but I

1705
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:35,560
Speaker 4: also enjoyed the last battle with uh ricking them and

1706
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:39,719
Speaker 4: the Saviors at the end when Rick sliced Nigan's throat

1707
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:41,680
Speaker 4: because I didn't see that coming and we went to

1708
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 4: go see that in the movie is and that ships

1709
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 4: That scared the ship out of me. I think my.

1710
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 2: Favorite battle is.

1711
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm, whenever the battle with the Terror when when

1712
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 4: they first met Terror. What is that not the Saviors

1713
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 4: the one before the Governor? Yes, the Governor, but no, no, no,

1714
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 4: I take that back because i'm thinking about it. My

1715
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 4: favorite episode isis the solo episode they did with the Governor.

1716
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:08,640
Speaker 4: I take that back, I'm thinking about it. That's my

1717
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 4: favorite episode because that was like one of the first

1718
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:14,880
Speaker 4: times that they took took a character and focused on

1719
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 4: that character where you could kind of see why that

1720
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 4: character was how they was, and it was beautifully drawn.

1721
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:25,639
Speaker 4: And then when you get back in you go Okay,

1722
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 4: now his action is moving forward made more sense.

1723
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 3: The opening episode, especially in Black and White, one of

1724
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 3: the greatest episodes of TV of all time. Rick waking

1725
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 3: up in the hospital and just introduced to the walking

1726
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 3: dead world.

1727
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 2: Holy shit.

1728
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 3: And then Rick versus Shane was another when when Shane

1729
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 3: finally gets killed by Karl is one of the most

1730
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 3: epic episodes too, because you just did not see all

1731
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 3: that coming.

1732
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think Another one of my favorite episodes is

1733
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 4: when Ricky got to Atlanta and I thought we were

1734
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 4: gonna die and then Glenn literally pops up out of

1735
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 4: motherfucking nowhere. I was like, oh, okay, like like I

1736
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 4: really enjoy that.

1737
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 1: Uh.

1738
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:11,880
Speaker 2: The poll was, do you feel Carol, Lydia and Nia

1739
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 2: have redeemed themselves? Yes? All of them? Not all of

1740
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 2: them or none of them have been redeemed?

1741
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:22,719
Speaker 4: Karen, Yes, they've been redeemed. Now how the other characters

1742
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 4: feel about.

1743
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 2: It as a whole different? Yeah, you've had I feel as.

1744
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 4: Though they've been Each one of them have been redeemed

1745
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 4: in their own ways.

1746
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I think so as well.

1747
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 3: Maybe I would lean on maybe you would feel that

1748
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 3: that Nia hasn't, But I don't know, I feel like

1749
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:44,799
Speaker 3: they kind of took them through part of it enough where.

1750
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 2: They they they for me, they've been redeemed.

1751
01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 4: You know.

1752
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 2: I can see people not wanting to forgive Carol, but.

1753
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 3: Once she fucking was ready to kill herself and jump

1754
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 3: off the cliff off, I'm not, you know, I don't

1755
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:00,640
Speaker 3: take any solait and being like.

1756
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 2: Now, bitch, fuck you kill yourself.

1757
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:06,640
Speaker 3: Like I know, it's just a TV show, but right'll

1758
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 3: y'all listen to the show enough to know I'm not

1759
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 3: really that fucking hardcore anyway. Fifty two percent says yes,

1760
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 3: they've all been redeemed, twenty novicers say not all of them,

1761
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 3: and nineteen percent think nah, none of them have been redeemed,

1762
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 3: which is interesting because I don't even think Lydia ever

1763
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 3: did anything that bad, not that I remember. I mean,

1764
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 3: considering the situation she was in with her mama being alpha,

1765
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:31,719
Speaker 3: and mom says not Carol, enough time as it passed

1766
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:34,680
Speaker 3: for me. Yet Lydia to me redeem herself a.

1767
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 2: Long time ago.

1768
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 3: She's been trying to be part of the community and

1769
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 3: it's everyone else who's only seen her as an enemy.

1770
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 3: I forgive him, but I understand that people stay mad,

1771
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 3: Sam said, so I just realized what you meant by

1772
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 3: the name Fedti Carl. After all this time, I figured

1773
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 3: it out. Lol, Oh my fucking guy, how did I.

1774
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 2: Drop the lead on this? For so long?

1775
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:58,880
Speaker 3: I was sitting here thinking why rock did ROI call

1776
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 3: him that? So I google fetti Wop and still didn't

1777
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 3: get it. I was thinking if it's his music, because

1778
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 3: he'd be all sad and some of the songs, and

1779
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 3: I bust out laughing.

1780
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 2: Car only got what I Oh, my fucking guy. You

1781
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 2: can get your Fetti car t shirts.

1782
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:16,720
Speaker 3: It's Recipees Fetti Cars in the black Out Tips Tee

1783
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 3: public store.

1784
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:22,719
Speaker 2: So welcome to the club, baby, No, we ain't shit

1785
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 2: the King King.

1786
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 3: The Black showgath was Episode Show goth was episode twenty

1787
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:31,680
Speaker 3: one ninety six. We got one comic Kim Ducks. Kim

1788
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 3: doc says excellent and delightful, hilarish review YouTube listen, Nigga,

1789
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 3: that Black Show got running around through those bitch ass

1790
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 3: cops like a hot knife through butter was exactly what

1791
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 3: my soul needed. Gorgeous, iconic, majestic, fucking fantastic.

1792
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:44,600
Speaker 2: I had that.

1793
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 3: Dwayne Wade looked during the dunk contest when that big

1794
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:49,720
Speaker 3: thing was slinging them eighty feet in the air and

1795
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 3: doubling back to mop up the leftovers. You simply love

1796
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:57,080
Speaker 3: to see it when Letty fin where Letty Finna stay

1797
01:24:57,200 --> 01:25:00,680
Speaker 3: now though that house is done, Man, I don't know.

1798
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 3: I was panicking at every scene with d That young

1799
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:06,760
Speaker 3: lady is a star. Yeah, that girl was acting whole

1800
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 3: episode Black Acting School.

1801
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 2: There are truly some great.

1802
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:13,559
Speaker 3: Teenage black female actors coming up between the girls from

1803
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 3: This Is Us to Marsaide and now Jada Harris all

1804
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 3: inspired performance.

1805
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:18,679
Speaker 2: I was completely stressed.

1806
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I just hope that those girls can continue

1807
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 3: to get that like Yard Shahiti Zendaya type, you know, promotion. Well,

1808
01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 3: we get to watch them grow up and take on

1809
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 3: these bigger and better roles and all that.

1810
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 2: Stuff, because I'm tired of tired of like black actors

1811
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:41,720
Speaker 2: becoming known at forty five. You know, like, man, this

1812
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 2: person is excellent. Wow, old are it?

1813
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 3: It's like day forty five. They've been in twelve days.

1814
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 3: It's roles, and no one ever gave him a chance

1815
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 3: until now. You're just like, wow, a lot of people

1816
01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:54,640
Speaker 3: must have passed up a person.

1817
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 2: That was excellent. The whole time.

1818
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 4: Yes, they have.

1819
01:25:57,560 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 3: On a serious note, though that murderous scene was particul

1820
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 3: lily satisfying after the extreme sadness and.

1821
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 2: Hard in Mattill's death. It's odd to say that they.

1822
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 3: Struck the right tone, but I believe they truly did

1823
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 3: not Uh did by not showing the body. Was Ruby

1824
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 3: the only one that actually went in and saw the

1825
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 3: body out of the main characters, maybe Montross did as well.

1826
01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:20,720
Speaker 2: Oh you know what, Ruby did see it. I just

1827
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 2: forgot because she.

1828
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 4: Was in line right.

1829
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 2: Well. No, she told uh William he looked like a monster.

1830
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 4: So she did see it, okay, because she could. Yeah,

1831
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:31,840
Speaker 4: because she was the only one that Stack I.

1832
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:34,639
Speaker 3: Think when she lied was talking about she was going

1833
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:36,599
Speaker 3: to the She had been at the wake all that time,

1834
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 3: which came when she came over and saw Lady.

1835
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 2: She was like, yeah, I just came from the wake.

1836
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 2: It's like, we saw you get your backbone out, sis, Letty.

1837
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 4: Nobody else did, but she could yet because she was like,

1838
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 4: I'm gonna stay in line in case y'all come back.

1839
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:52,439
Speaker 3: Right, Letty being invincible, Finn to be lit Let's go,

1840
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 3: Journey and Jamie were acting their asses off at that

1841
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:56,439
Speaker 3: table they were.

1842
01:26:57,040 --> 01:27:01,720
Speaker 2: I do worry that. I do worry that.

1843
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 3: Letty invincibility can be taken back somehow by Christina. I

1844
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:12,240
Speaker 3: don't trust her all right the Poe. Do you think

1845
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 3: Christina will be changed by dying like Emmett Till?

1846
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:24,000
Speaker 2: Yes or not at all? Karen yes. Thirty five percent

1847
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 2: of the audience says yes.

1848
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, it could be for the good for the bad.

1849
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 4: But I think it's going to be a change.

1850
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 3: Thirty five percent say yes. Sexty five percent say not

1851
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 3: at all. Christina's told Letdy. Sam says, Christina told Letty

1852
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:38,559
Speaker 3: that part about it can heal people for a reason.

1853
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 3: I think Tick is going to die from being sacrificed

1854
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 3: by Christina.

1855
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:43,759
Speaker 2: Letty's going to bring him back with the spell.

1856
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:46,560
Speaker 3: Oh, I can see that they have set up the

1857
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:48,760
Speaker 3: pieces to do that, so I can see that now.

1858
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 3: I don't know how Christina's ritual is supposed to work.

1859
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 3: And mine says, y'all were on the same page with

1860
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 3: me about the feeling of this episode is very good,

1861
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 3: but Hippolyta's episode is still my favorite. So no, that

1862
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 3: manipula of Christina didn't change, only the revel in her

1863
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:06,879
Speaker 3: own power. I think maybe she was trying to understand

1864
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 3: in some performative way, but her laughing just sealed it

1865
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 3: for me. She doesn't care and doesn't get it. She

1866
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:13,920
Speaker 3: can't die, and she was just testing the limits of

1867
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 3: that because Emmitt died in such.

1868
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:18,440
Speaker 2: A brutal way. What they did to him was literally overkilled.

1869
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 3: Maybe she was trying to feel what mm it might

1870
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 3: have felt, but even that would be a farce because

1871
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 3: that bitch can't die.

1872
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:31,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess, I mean, she did technically.

1873
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 3: Die and come back, but and I went, oh, you

1874
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:37,640
Speaker 3: know what, you know what that reminded me of when

1875
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:41,559
Speaker 3: she came back and she's like crying, sobbing and laughing

1876
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 3: at the same time when they go in the Lazarus

1877
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 3: pit in Batman and when they come out they be crazy,

1878
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 3: you know, like for a little bit they just be

1879
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 3: crazy and then they kind of get it back, but

1880
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 3: because their body is coming back from literally fucking death, right.

1881
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 2: I wonder if that like, every time she comes back

1882
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 2: and she does that.

1883
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 4: Wantability anyway, they'll let us know, like there'll be something else.

1884
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 2: And I do think it could go either way, because

1885
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:14,600
Speaker 2: like it would be a waste to have her go

1886
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:18,680
Speaker 2: through all that impactsoever, and they have no impact on

1887
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:19,880
Speaker 2: the character or the show.

1888
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:23,799
Speaker 3: But at the same time, it would be a flex

1889
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:25,680
Speaker 3: to have her go through all that and her to

1890
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 3: tell Ruby to her face like it didn't change me

1891
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 3: at all, Like I did go through that, and I

1892
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:33,960
Speaker 3: actually like it would even prove just how cold that

1893
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:36,839
Speaker 3: character really truly is to the core of her being correct,

1894
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:38,560
Speaker 3: Like I wanted to know what it felt like.

1895
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 2: I do know what it feels like, and no I don't.

1896
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:43,840
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck and I still don't care.

1897
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:46,439
Speaker 3: We got a couple of voicemails, just get into those.

1898
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 3: I haven't listened to this one yet.

1899
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:49,559
Speaker 2: See what this is from.

1900
01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:52,759
Speaker 4: Spectrum News here in Charlie.

1901
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:55,559
Speaker 3: Oh wait, we already did this interview, so you heard

1902
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 3: us on Spectrum News. All right, let's go to the

1903
01:29:58,200 --> 01:29:58,639
Speaker 3: next one.

1904
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:07,040
Speaker 5: Hey, Rod and Karen, this is kem Dook to leave

1905
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 5: an email for you guys, but I just got everything's

1906
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 5: just gotten really crazy as I moved. So I just

1907
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:19,679
Speaker 5: wanted to say congratulations on the Spotify situation. I excited

1908
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:23,000
Speaker 5: to see what that holds. All the music that you

1909
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:28,360
Speaker 5: guys have been getting from the other supporters is really like,

1910
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:31,880
Speaker 5: I'm like, what the fuck, these guys are so talented,

1911
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:35,560
Speaker 5: is lit. I would listen to albums of this and

1912
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:40,400
Speaker 5: luckily again. And I just wanted to also say that

1913
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 5: your Sunday podcast, Like I was unpacking all my boxes

1914
01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 5: and all of that stuff, and I was just so

1915
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:50,720
Speaker 5: moved by all of the sentiments that you guys have,

1916
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:55,720
Speaker 5: whether it's about Trump and his COVID shit. And I

1917
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:57,840
Speaker 5: don't know, I'm one of those people that's a little

1918
01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:01,040
Speaker 5: bit skeptical because these folks run the White House like

1919
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:04,120
Speaker 5: it's a reality show. And so I think that with

1920
01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:07,479
Speaker 5: the week that they had with the debacle of the debate,

1921
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 5: right before that, his taxes came out and then the

1922
01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:17,880
Speaker 5: Milania t hates dropped and two hours later suddenly they

1923
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:21,960
Speaker 5: have COVID. I'm like, all of this is really convenient

1924
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 5: and this is super super super weird. I mean, I

1925
01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:29,680
Speaker 5: guess I'm gonna go with it that he has it

1926
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:32,200
Speaker 5: because he looked kind of white. But maybe he's just

1927
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 5: lighting up on the bronxos. That's not like a hotel

1928
01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 5: conspiracy theorist.

1929
01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 4: Nobody did.

1930
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 5: But like I said, many congrats to you guys, all

1931
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:45,600
Speaker 5: my love and uh, you know, I can't wait to

1932
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 5: see you guys on the on the next uh.

1933
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:50,880
Speaker 2: Next venture, have a good one, thank you.

1934
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:54,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's he don't his makeup. People like I don't

1935
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 4: want to catch COVID because if y'all realize he's not

1936
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:56,799
Speaker 4: his ones anymore.

1937
01:31:57,240 --> 01:31:58,439
Speaker 2: Uh, here's what I would say.

1938
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:02,439
Speaker 3: I empathize for a lot of people because I feel

1939
01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:04,840
Speaker 3: like this is the point of what they're doing to

1940
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:08,799
Speaker 3: make us doubt ourselves and doubt doubt the very obvious reality.

1941
01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 3: They're not smart people, they're not good liars, and they

1942
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 3: have done risky behaviors that would lead to somebody catching coronavirus.

1943
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:23,439
Speaker 3: Like it would be different if I felt like it

1944
01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:25,439
Speaker 3: would be different if we looked up and saw them

1945
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:28,960
Speaker 3: wearing masks and keeping social distance. They haven't been doing it,

1946
01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:32,360
Speaker 3: and they've been holding mass gathering events, the exact things

1947
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:33,680
Speaker 3: that give people coronavirus.

1948
01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 2: So it's easy for me to be like, y'all got

1949
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:36,880
Speaker 2: it now.

1950
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:39,040
Speaker 3: I don't expect them to fucking dib it because most

1951
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:42,479
Speaker 3: of them can have access to great health care, even

1952
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:46,519
Speaker 3: preventative great health care. I Chris Christy checked himself into

1953
01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:47,960
Speaker 3: the hospital as a fucking precaution.

1954
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:51,600
Speaker 2: He didn't even have get tested. He didn't even have

1955
01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:55,960
Speaker 2: any bad symptoms. He just went to the hospital. The

1956
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:57,080
Speaker 2: average person can't do that.

1957
01:32:57,800 --> 01:33:00,760
Speaker 3: So and literally they will make you ass I'll let

1958
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:03,800
Speaker 3: you go home, make you go home. So it was

1959
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:06,960
Speaker 3: obvious to me that they had it. Also, the thing

1960
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 3: with this White House, they have scandals literally every day.

1961
01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:14,840
Speaker 3: So what happens is, I think our brains as human beings,

1962
01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:17,679
Speaker 3: we need to process things, so we put it into

1963
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:21,240
Speaker 3: narrative order, and so we go, this thing is a

1964
01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:23,479
Speaker 3: distraction from that thing, and that thing is a distraction

1965
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:26,920
Speaker 3: from this thing, and it all goes back when everything

1966
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:28,960
Speaker 3: is burning at the same time.

1967
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:31,639
Speaker 2: None of it's a distraction to anything.

1968
01:33:32,479 --> 01:33:37,360
Speaker 3: Like they're not going, oh, no, they know about the taxes,

1969
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 3: let's get coronavirus. Like, no, they have been doing dangerous

1970
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:45,799
Speaker 3: shit that would give you coronavirus for the same reasons.

1971
01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 3: He ain't even paying his taxes and don't give a

1972
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 3: fuck about that, for the same reason that Milania being complicit.

1973
01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:55,559
Speaker 2: Were any of us surprised that she was complicit? Nah,

1974
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:59,880
Speaker 2: none of this is even scandalous to them.

1975
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:03,080
Speaker 3: What we will have to do is except that they

1976
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:06,720
Speaker 3: believe some of these scandals can hurt them. I do

1977
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:09,760
Speaker 3: not believe they believe that when he said he can

1978
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:12,920
Speaker 3: shoot a man on Fifth Avenue in broad daylight or

1979
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:18,040
Speaker 3: something stupid shit, he believes that and nothing. Everything we

1980
01:34:18,280 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 3: know of him has not yet brought him down, So

1981
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 3: there's no reason to find his arrogance and lack.

1982
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:27,680
Speaker 2: Of humor is to be any level of surprising.

1983
01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:31,439
Speaker 3: I'm much more likely to believe the obvious that is

1984
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 3: it won't bring him down, and he actually knows it

1985
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:38,720
Speaker 3: won't bring him down. So the reason the scandals keep

1986
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:42,280
Speaker 3: popping up is because he keep doing scandalous shit like.

1987
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:44,800
Speaker 3: It's not because he's like, oh what, I need a

1988
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:46,680
Speaker 3: new hit to get him off the old shit. N

1989
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:50,680
Speaker 3: This nigga just is that fucked up, And unfortunately for us,

1990
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:52,599
Speaker 3: the scandal is the goddamn point.

1991
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:56,599
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, you know, like they literally are like the scandal.

1992
01:34:57,400 --> 01:35:01,240
Speaker 2: They voted for him to be a scandaler in chief,

1993
01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:06,320
Speaker 2: and that frustrates me more than anything. You know, Hillary

1994
01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:09,439
Speaker 2: said all this shit would come to past, and it

1995
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:11,559
Speaker 2: did and did.

1996
01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 3: It's just you know the part that the part that

1997
01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:19,000
Speaker 3: that gets to me is seeing good people, smart people

1998
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:23,839
Speaker 3: succumb to what he's done to us and questioning their reality.

1999
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 2: My friends and shit.

2000
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:27,720
Speaker 3: Were I don't know, he could be lying about it.

2001
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:31,000
Speaker 3: He lies about everything. I'm like, man, he got you,

2002
01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 3: he got he has us, He has smart people going.

2003
01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:38,160
Speaker 2: It might not be the obvious overt thing. He might

2004
01:35:38,240 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 2: be scheming and so so good at you know, like

2005
01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:45,120
Speaker 2: when people say he had a reality show, he was

2006
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:47,720
Speaker 2: the face of reality show. You think that man said

2007
01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 2: there and micro managed that shit. No, you know what

2008
01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:51,479
Speaker 2: else happened on that reality show.

2009
01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:54,040
Speaker 3: They edited out a bunch of him saying nigger and

2010
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:57,000
Speaker 3: racist shit, and they they talked about it later, but

2011
01:35:57,080 --> 01:35:59,080
Speaker 3: they was like, yeah, we actually have the tape somewhere.

2012
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 2: We just we just put him out. This is why

2013
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:02,920
Speaker 2: he was running for president.

2014
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 3: They could have ended his bid in twenty sixteen by

2015
01:36:06,439 --> 01:36:09,160
Speaker 3: being like possibly, and who knows, it might not have worked,

2016
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:10,720
Speaker 3: but they could have been like early in.

2017
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:12,880
Speaker 2: The race, this is him calling people niggas and shit.

2018
01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 3: So that's a coordinated effort from a lot of people

2019
01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:19,320
Speaker 3: who know how to make a reality show. The White

2020
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:23,880
Speaker 3: House is not nearly as coordinated in my opinion under him,

2021
01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:28,479
Speaker 3: like the fucking Apprentice probably had better, more competent people

2022
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:32,759
Speaker 3: in charge than his fucking White House, which is qualify

2023
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:35,800
Speaker 3: for these jobs, which would when you think about it.

2024
01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:38,880
Speaker 2: All right, let's get to these emails feedback.

2025
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:41,559
Speaker 3: MS Smart says Karen and Rod cangrass can grass can

2026
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 3: grass down on everyone one.

2027
01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:48,439
Speaker 2: Of my favorite things. Did I read this already? Oh wait,

2028
01:36:48,479 --> 01:36:49,479
Speaker 2: I read this one already?

2029
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:50,760
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2030
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:52,800
Speaker 2: Okay, this is oh my bad, my bad, my bad.

2031
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:58,080
Speaker 2: Thank you, mss Smart. Let me see. Okay, here's a

2032
01:36:58,160 --> 01:37:00,639
Speaker 2: new one. B B Right said from Toronto.

2033
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:03,920
Speaker 3: Hey, Rod and Karen, congrats all your successes and on

2034
01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:07,839
Speaker 3: your next adventure already have you queued up on Spotify?

2035
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:09,840
Speaker 3: And I had to add my voice to all who

2036
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:12,080
Speaker 3: continue to wish you well. Thank you for speaking the

2037
01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:14,120
Speaker 3: truth that you share your thoughts on this crazy, fantastical

2038
01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:16,439
Speaker 3: journey called life. Thank you for making us think and

2039
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:20,719
Speaker 3: laugh on the way you just make things better. Smiley face,

2040
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:22,479
Speaker 3: We love you be from Toronto.

2041
01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:22,880
Speaker 2: PS.

2042
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:25,599
Speaker 3: I recently watched the HBO limited series Years and Years

2043
01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:28,360
Speaker 3: and is phenomenal and the terrifying window into the future,

2044
01:37:28,479 --> 01:37:31,160
Speaker 3: especially if things go sideways at the November third vote.

2045
01:37:31,200 --> 01:37:34,080
Speaker 2: Y'all hadn't heard of that one years and years. I'm

2046
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:35,519
Speaker 2: writing that down right now.

2047
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:42,880
Speaker 3: Let's see Khalif Fright saying Lovecraft Country, Hey, Rod and Karen.

2048
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 3: After watching the last five minutes of the eighth episode,

2049
01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:47,519
Speaker 3: which was so great, I was wondering, Christina said that

2050
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:49,960
Speaker 3: a body intent and energy is needed for the protection

2051
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:53,599
Speaker 3: spell that Montrosse did with Tick when the show Goth appeared.

2052
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:58,040
Speaker 3: Was that Montrosse Montresse said his intent is to protect

2053
01:37:58,120 --> 01:38:01,760
Speaker 3: his son and grandson. So that spell transformed Montross, which

2054
01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:05,120
Speaker 3: is why he's show goff. The show got protected him, yo, Khalil.

2055
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:07,479
Speaker 3: I literally thought that And the only reason I didn't

2056
01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:11,080
Speaker 3: bring it up is because Montross was holding d and

2057
01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:13,880
Speaker 3: like the scene before, and I was like, how would

2058
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:17,080
Speaker 3: he have gotten there that fast?

2059
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:20,519
Speaker 2: And what would happen to D if he left her there?

2060
01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:22,760
Speaker 4: And we've seen him being born.

2061
01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:26,320
Speaker 2: Too, we have seen him being born, So I don't know.

2062
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:28,720
Speaker 3: Look, I mean, it would be dope if he was

2063
01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:31,960
Speaker 3: because I feel like his arm reass would make a

2064
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:35,680
Speaker 3: good ass show GoF Okay, like I so, I but no,

2065
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:38,160
Speaker 3: I did think it, and then I dismissed it just

2066
01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:39,880
Speaker 3: because I was like, maybe I'm tripping.

2067
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:43,240
Speaker 2: Because because D he was holding D literally in the

2068
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:44,960
Speaker 2: same like the scene before that.

2069
01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:48,599
Speaker 3: So but you never know what this show, bro. Maybe

2070
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:52,080
Speaker 3: teleporter or some shit. Uh, I don't know, and if

2071
01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:55,000
Speaker 3: it is, damn show us. Yep, it was kind of

2072
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:59,880
Speaker 3: the same skin tone as Montrosse. Let's see Candice rights

2073
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:03,400
Speaker 3: in high Rod and Karen. How was Jill able to

2074
01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:05,760
Speaker 3: enter Letty's house? Do the markets on the doors black

2075
01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:08,560
Speaker 3: magical beings with bad intentions? Or did Letty invite her in?

2076
01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:11,280
Speaker 3: I don't know if I missed that part. Well, Letty

2077
01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 3: couldn't invite her in because she walked in the house

2078
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:13,960
Speaker 3: and she was already in there.

2079
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:16,880
Speaker 2: I'm still too creeped out to watch the episode again.

2080
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:17,599
Speaker 2: Thanks Candice.

2081
01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:20,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, we gave yall theories I think during the recap,

2082
01:39:21,120 --> 01:39:26,200
Speaker 3: so you know, let's see mine right, saying, hey, y'all,

2083
01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:30,000
Speaker 3: I'm just I can't y'all. That love Craft episode was

2084
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:33,040
Speaker 3: so crazy. It's like they saw my nightmares from my childhood.

2085
01:39:33,080 --> 01:39:36,120
Speaker 3: This the first episode. I was actually scared that poor

2086
01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:38,720
Speaker 3: baby d No one was there for her. It's like

2087
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:40,960
Speaker 3: that little black girl who had to save her own

2088
01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:43,920
Speaker 3: damn self after being kidnapped, and that poem for little

2089
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:47,519
Speaker 3: Black girls Montrost saying that line that every black parent

2090
01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:49,720
Speaker 3: had to wrestle with that our children don't get to

2091
01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:51,720
Speaker 3: pass from the paint, get a pass from the pain.

2092
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:54,840
Speaker 3: Christina's evil ass recurating m it's murder and still not

2093
01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:57,679
Speaker 3: feeling a damn thing. But it's like she was feeling

2094
01:39:57,720 --> 01:39:59,720
Speaker 3: a bit of everything when she came out of that

2095
01:39:59,800 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 3: water her. I wouldn't say that's not a damn thing,

2096
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:05,160
Speaker 3: But I still don't know what she was feeling. We'll

2097
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:06,680
Speaker 3: find out next week if she go back to.

2098
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 2: If she go to Ruby face and just be like,

2099
01:40:10,720 --> 01:40:13,240
Speaker 2: I did die that way and I still don't give

2100
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:14,360
Speaker 2: a fuck about you, nigga.

2101
01:40:14,479 --> 01:40:16,760
Speaker 4: So I'm like, well, you're keeping it real, You're keeping

2102
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:17,479
Speaker 4: the same energy.

2103
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:21,080
Speaker 2: She really, that's truly patty and shit, that's what it

2104
01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:23,800
Speaker 2: really looked like when you keep the same energy. No,

2105
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:25,519
Speaker 2: thank you. I had.

2106
01:40:25,920 --> 01:40:27,920
Speaker 3: I had to have my husband hold me after this

2107
01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:31,200
Speaker 3: when my hard hippo LTA please come back. Also, did

2108
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:34,759
Speaker 3: you know? And you know what I'm pissed at Ruby

2109
01:40:35,240 --> 01:40:38,080
Speaker 3: is the magic d that good girl? Because it seems

2110
01:40:38,120 --> 01:40:40,839
Speaker 3: super messy to me. How many white women have stabbed

2111
01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:43,000
Speaker 3: black women in the back. You know, you would know

2112
01:40:43,160 --> 01:40:45,920
Speaker 3: if you went to the Nation Islam meeting. Cis eat

2113
01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:47,760
Speaker 3: some bean pie, open your third hoye.

2114
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:49,360
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm done. I need another hug.

2115
01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:54,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, that William Dick must be something else, okay,

2116
01:40:55,560 --> 01:40:57,160
Speaker 3: putting that thing on Ruby man.

2117
01:40:57,280 --> 01:40:59,479
Speaker 4: Also, you gotta realize we've never lived a life as

2118
01:40:59,479 --> 01:41:01,920
Speaker 4: a white woman, so we don't really know, right, is.

2119
01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:03,960
Speaker 2: She addicted to the d or is she addicted to

2120
01:41:04,040 --> 01:41:04,960
Speaker 2: being that white woman?

2121
01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 4: Come on, it's a tell her. It's a hell of

2122
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:11,240
Speaker 4: a drug, right. Don't none of us know how we

2123
01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:13,400
Speaker 4: respond to it if we ever got a taste of it.

2124
01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:15,639
Speaker 4: We sitting up here there used to be some brand

2125
01:41:15,720 --> 01:41:16,240
Speaker 4: new people.

2126
01:41:16,439 --> 01:41:18,240
Speaker 2: We sitting up here blaming the dick. It might be

2127
01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:18,919
Speaker 2: the privilege.

2128
01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:23,120
Speaker 4: We'll fucking around, but I don't fuck with them, them

2129
01:41:23,200 --> 01:41:24,240
Speaker 4: niggas over there, like.

2130
01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:26,840
Speaker 3: She over there, Like listen, y'all think it's the dick, girl,

2131
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:28,600
Speaker 3: it's the credit score, Okay.

2132
01:41:28,479 --> 01:41:33,040
Speaker 4: Come on, it's the doors that automatically opened up for me.

2133
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:36,720
Speaker 2: I didn't know credit scores with this high. Okay, all right?

2134
01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:40,639
Speaker 2: Love Craft Country This from Tori.

2135
01:41:40,880 --> 01:41:43,519
Speaker 3: Hey, Rody Karen, I can't wait to hear your thoughts

2136
01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:44,479
Speaker 3: about love Craft Country.

2137
01:41:44,479 --> 01:41:45,000
Speaker 2: Episode eight.

2138
01:41:45,040 --> 01:41:49,800
Speaker 3: Jigaboo boo jigobobo blew my mind from Emma Tell's Funeral

2139
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:54,360
Speaker 3: to Christine reacting to his murder. Uh, don't even get

2140
01:41:54,439 --> 01:41:57,760
Speaker 3: me started on d n O's damn Demon, Heifer's I'm

2141
01:41:57,840 --> 01:42:00,519
Speaker 3: a thirty three year old, white, thirty three a woman,

2142
01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:01,679
Speaker 3: and I was scared to go to sleep.

2143
01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:03,160
Speaker 2: I had on every light in my house.

2144
01:42:03,400 --> 01:42:05,920
Speaker 3: Congress with your Spotify deal, y'all all deserve it as

2145
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:10,120
Speaker 3: so much more. Thank you for all that you do, Toy,

2146
01:42:10,240 --> 01:42:13,479
Speaker 3: thank you, Tory, thank you. Yeah, that's interesting because I

2147
01:42:13,640 --> 01:42:18,000
Speaker 3: wonder if black women were more scared.

2148
01:42:18,240 --> 01:42:21,200
Speaker 2: Than other people in this episode, because to me, this

2149
01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:24,720
Speaker 2: was not the scariest episode, but a lot a lot

2150
01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:27,320
Speaker 2: of people, a lot of black women specifically said this

2151
01:42:27,479 --> 01:42:31,200
Speaker 2: was the scariest one for them, not for you. Okay,

2152
01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:34,479
Speaker 2: not all black women, but you know, of course, Karen

2153
01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:36,960
Speaker 2: don't love to remember that she didn't want Hippolyti to

2154
01:42:37,000 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 2: come back.

2155
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:41,519
Speaker 3: Julie Wright saying, Rod and Karen, Rod, I'm listening to

2156
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:43,920
Speaker 3: you process your feelings about the social media monster, and

2157
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:45,920
Speaker 3: I'm summoning all the good energy I can send your

2158
01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:48,679
Speaker 3: way to help you feel find some relief. I'm thinking

2159
01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:51,280
Speaker 3: about that line in Lovecraft about magic not just being

2160
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:54,960
Speaker 3: incantation incantation, but energy and intention.

2161
01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:57,080
Speaker 2: So it's not to upset the balance of nature.

2162
01:42:57,320 --> 01:42:58,920
Speaker 3: A couple of months ago, I chose to get off

2163
01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:00,840
Speaker 3: of Twitter because I felt like balance of my nature

2164
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:03,439
Speaker 3: is being upset. I don't even interact on Twitter like that,

2165
01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:06,160
Speaker 3: but even with the careful curation of my other sentiments,

2166
01:43:06,200 --> 01:43:08,720
Speaker 3: I was seeing it was having an outside impact on

2167
01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:11,160
Speaker 3: how it made me feel. I found that the good

2168
01:43:11,240 --> 01:43:13,960
Speaker 3: stuff was so easily overshadowed by it bad. And maybe

2169
01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:17,280
Speaker 3: my black Girl magic wasn't as impervious as I would

2170
01:43:17,400 --> 01:43:21,519
Speaker 3: like the to the way as I would like to

2171
01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:24,240
Speaker 3: the spells of that world's magic, that kind of magic,

2172
01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:26,880
Speaker 3: the kind that tears down and doesn't build up, harms

2173
01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:30,000
Speaker 3: and doesn't help and rages and doesn't come cast spells

2174
01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:33,240
Speaker 3: I can't afford. They called so too much, and the

2175
01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:36,200
Speaker 3: way my emotional economy is set up similar to Cairns,

2176
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:38,200
Speaker 3: Twitter just felt like it was too easy to land

2177
01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:41,320
Speaker 3: in the throes of a recession, robbing Peter to pay Paul,

2178
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:44,120
Speaker 3: as the old folks say, allocating a whole lot of

2179
01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:48,439
Speaker 3: emotional energy to a consciousness and enterprise that yields more

2180
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:52,599
Speaker 3: losses than gains, especially at particularly vulnerable moments. I tried

2181
01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:56,280
Speaker 3: limiting log ons to begin, but that then just went.

2182
01:43:56,240 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 2: To full avoidance route. Yeah, I can see that, you know.

2183
01:44:01,439 --> 01:44:06,280
Speaker 3: I think that's you know, that's definitely something like I

2184
01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:09,800
Speaker 3: always try to find a balancer because part of it

2185
01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:12,400
Speaker 3: is our business and promotion. Part of why we have

2186
01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:14,679
Speaker 3: what we have is because of social media.

2187
01:44:14,600 --> 01:44:19,639
Speaker 2: Because of and I know specifically my presence there.

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01:44:20,920 --> 01:44:24,479
Speaker 3: But yeah, I just find myself more and more being

2189
01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:26,240
Speaker 3: like I don't even want to log on there, or

2190
01:44:26,240 --> 01:44:29,120
Speaker 3: I'm just not looking, or I delete it off my phone,

2191
01:44:29,320 --> 01:44:30,559
Speaker 3: or I take a break, things.

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Speaker 4: Like that, you know. Yeah, I say, and I find

2193
01:44:34,120 --> 01:44:36,880
Speaker 4: a balance, Like you say, is one of those things

2194
01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:43,120
Speaker 4: where my balance is. I do a lot of retweets

2195
01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:46,880
Speaker 4: on my particular Twitter age and Facebook too. I put

2196
01:44:46,920 --> 01:44:49,040
Speaker 4: my thoughts out there every now and then. But you know,

2197
01:44:49,120 --> 01:44:52,280
Speaker 4: it's one of those things to where I have learned

2198
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:54,360
Speaker 4: how to balance that. I have learned to how to

2199
01:44:54,439 --> 01:44:56,800
Speaker 4: ignore shit. I've learned how to mute shit, you know,

2200
01:44:56,880 --> 01:44:59,639
Speaker 4: And I've learned that if I see an event happening,

2201
01:44:59,800 --> 01:45:01,840
Speaker 4: is almost like you can see the tidal wave coming

2202
01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:04,040
Speaker 4: and you're standing at the ocean and you see the

2203
01:45:04,160 --> 01:45:06,320
Speaker 4: tide raising at your feet. You go, no, I think

2204
01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:08,240
Speaker 4: I'm gonna leave for a get to my knees. So

2205
01:45:08,360 --> 01:45:10,759
Speaker 4: a lot of times I'll just exit the room before

2206
01:45:10,760 --> 01:45:12,680
Speaker 4: it gets to a certain point because it, like I

2207
01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:14,840
Speaker 4: said before, if you've been on social media long enough,

2208
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:18,720
Speaker 4: you I always know what's gonna happen. You literally can tell, Okay,

2209
01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:20,680
Speaker 4: this is the first wave, this is the second wave,

2210
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:23,000
Speaker 4: this is the third wave. Give it this many days.

2211
01:45:23,120 --> 01:45:25,760
Speaker 4: It's literally a formula to it. They'll be talking about

2212
01:45:25,840 --> 01:45:28,200
Speaker 4: something else within forty eight to seventy two to the

2213
01:45:28,360 --> 01:45:30,880
Speaker 4: next week. And once you understand that concept, you can

2214
01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:33,880
Speaker 4: kind of avoid certain situations. I know I can't avoid

2215
01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:35,759
Speaker 4: certain situations that will stress you out.

2216
01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:37,320
Speaker 2: All right.

2217
01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:42,160
Speaker 3: I don't know if you recall me sending you that

2218
01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:46,439
Speaker 3: quote from tag or Hope. I said that right that reads,

2219
01:45:47,120 --> 01:45:50,280
Speaker 3: we read the world wrong and say it deceives us.

2220
01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:52,439
Speaker 3: I think I may have sent it then because I

2221
01:45:52,520 --> 01:45:54,840
Speaker 3: sense that despite your awareness of how this thing is

2222
01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:55,559
Speaker 3: built and how.

2223
01:45:55,479 --> 01:45:57,600
Speaker 2: It affects folks or desire to reconcile.

2224
01:45:57,240 --> 01:45:59,880
Speaker 3: The dissonance between how the world presents itself and how

2225
01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:02,760
Speaker 3: actually is what people say and how they act leads

2226
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:05,120
Speaker 3: to this internal level of dissonance where you are fully

2227
01:46:05,160 --> 01:46:08,320
Speaker 3: aware of how the world is, but can't reconcile a

2228
01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:11,120
Speaker 3: way to not have it affect you as much as

2229
01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:13,200
Speaker 3: it does, and try to get people to see their

2230
01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:15,840
Speaker 3: on contribution to the dissonance. You care and so it

2231
01:46:15,960 --> 01:46:18,960
Speaker 3: bothers you. You've mastered the art of reframing perspectives. But

2232
01:46:19,080 --> 01:46:22,040
Speaker 3: people in their angers, hatreds, and fears are every bit

2233
01:46:22,120 --> 01:46:24,880
Speaker 3: as contagious as corona. You might not get the full

2234
01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:27,439
Speaker 3: on disease, but your immune system is fighting like crazy

2235
01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:29,880
Speaker 3: to keep you healthy and whole. Your body feels that fight,

2236
01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:33,000
Speaker 3: and it feels terrible for someone who relies on the

2237
01:46:33,080 --> 01:46:37,160
Speaker 3: introverted existence of energy replenishment, where you retreat internally to

2238
01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:40,519
Speaker 3: get restored. It's like the social media experience invades that

2239
01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:44,680
Speaker 3: quiet retreat too. The sounds, feelings, words you're experiencing the

2240
01:46:44,760 --> 01:46:47,560
Speaker 3: interaction get all over you and they keep leeching from you.

2241
01:46:48,080 --> 01:46:50,240
Speaker 3: And you try, and you're trying to get hold again

2242
01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:52,519
Speaker 3: to restore balance, but you can now you need that.

2243
01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:57,160
Speaker 3: Now you feel that cognitive dissonance, this frustrating perseveration that

2244
01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:01,000
Speaker 3: you can't let go of, won't let go of you,

2245
01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:04,400
Speaker 3: If it will not let go of you, that's the

2246
01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:07,800
Speaker 3: intention of the magic so you have to counter by

2247
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:10,479
Speaker 3: finding a way to let go of it. Our work

2248
01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:13,280
Speaker 3: becomes finding ways to cast and spell of protection or

2249
01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:15,240
Speaker 3: transform the energy of the spell cast on us.

2250
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of love crafting and analysis here, a

2251
01:47:20,120 --> 01:47:24,519
Speaker 2: lot of analogies work. Does a world without you on

2252
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:26,920
Speaker 2: social media look like? Is that possible? And what does

2253
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 2: that feel like?

2254
01:47:27,720 --> 01:47:29,920
Speaker 3: Is it possible to the detriment of the show social

2255
01:47:29,960 --> 01:47:32,400
Speaker 3: media presence before the sake of your wholeness? Is it

2256
01:47:32,479 --> 01:47:34,519
Speaker 3: possible that you will feel better and the show is

2257
01:47:34,520 --> 01:47:37,000
Speaker 3: perfectly fine without you being on social media? The same way,

2258
01:47:37,720 --> 01:47:40,479
Speaker 3: do you underestimate the healing power walking even during the rowner?

2259
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:45,320
Speaker 3: That movement, that energy transformation occurs from being out nature,

2260
01:47:45,360 --> 01:47:47,880
Speaker 3: which is billions of years older than us, representing life

2261
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:50,880
Speaker 3: from a more eternal perspective. The light that hits the tree,

2262
01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:53,040
Speaker 3: that causes it to grow and reach farther and farther

2263
01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:55,479
Speaker 3: towards the sky is meant for us too. We are

2264
01:47:56,439 --> 01:47:58,560
Speaker 3: part of the same nature we take for granted, and

2265
01:47:58,800 --> 01:48:00,640
Speaker 3: it's so remarkable we need need it to make us

2266
01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:01,120
Speaker 3: feel whole.

2267
01:48:01,400 --> 01:48:04,400
Speaker 2: We need to be out out in it. As an

2268
01:48:04,439 --> 01:48:06,640
Speaker 2: an adulte to the dissonance, we needed.

2269
01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:08,240
Speaker 3: To remind us of how remark where we are too.

2270
01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:11,720
Speaker 3: You're not playing basketball right now, which did that, Which

2271
01:48:11,800 --> 01:48:13,360
Speaker 3: did that for you in so many ways. So you're

2272
01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:15,960
Speaker 3: gonna find you gotta find a way to walk. Maybe

2273
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:19,000
Speaker 3: you find the most untrodden path you can, but get

2274
01:48:19,040 --> 01:48:21,360
Speaker 3: outside and do it as often as you can. In fact,

2275
01:48:21,479 --> 01:48:25,400
Speaker 3: you gotta make this walking meditation mandatory practice, especially as

2276
01:48:25,479 --> 01:48:27,519
Speaker 3: you and Care ramp up this next level, this beautiful

2277
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:30,679
Speaker 3: project you built. Okay, now I feel like you prescribing stuff.

2278
01:48:32,479 --> 01:48:35,760
Speaker 2: Take two your prescription, right, Take two of these.

2279
01:48:35,800 --> 01:48:36,519
Speaker 4: Come me in the morning.

2280
01:48:37,720 --> 01:48:39,840
Speaker 3: I do not mean to overstep my bounds, but I

2281
01:48:39,880 --> 01:48:41,880
Speaker 3: do think it's possible to care very much for people

2282
01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:44,360
Speaker 3: I have not met, but who consistently allow us to

2283
01:48:44,360 --> 01:48:47,160
Speaker 3: share their experience with being human and have provided so

2284
01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:49,680
Speaker 3: much for us. I just feel very protective of you both,

2285
01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:51,519
Speaker 3: like a big sister. I hope this is the way

2286
01:48:51,560 --> 01:48:53,360
Speaker 3: you receive this eight it is I don't want you

2287
01:48:53,439 --> 01:48:58,560
Speaker 3: to feel I mean, yeah, it's I'm I know you

2288
01:48:58,640 --> 01:48:59,960
Speaker 3: sent this with every good intention.

2289
01:49:00,360 --> 01:49:02,400
Speaker 4: Yeah you didn't mean us a bad, bad baby, and.

2290
01:49:02,720 --> 01:49:03,240
Speaker 2: Yeah I'm not.

2291
01:49:03,439 --> 01:49:06,680
Speaker 3: I hate that shit too, And the person like I've

2292
01:49:06,680 --> 01:49:08,559
Speaker 3: been telling y'all about my life and the things I'm

2293
01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:10,360
Speaker 3: going through and the things I'm doing, and and I'm.

2294
01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:14,160
Speaker 2: Like, first of all, nigga's not your motherfucking business. Okay,

2295
01:49:14,439 --> 01:49:16,599
Speaker 2: what I say, like, Nah, it's cool.

2296
01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:20,320
Speaker 3: Congratulations on your Spotify deal and every other achievement y'all deserve.

2297
01:49:20,439 --> 01:49:23,640
Speaker 2: I'm feeling good. The good mood detail. I don't know

2298
01:49:23,680 --> 01:49:27,880
Speaker 2: what that is. Joy which is Buddhism, and Buddhism is

2299
01:49:27,960 --> 01:49:30,920
Speaker 2: when you take such joy in other people's achievements you

2300
01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:32,680
Speaker 2: just want to go screaming in the streets about how

2301
01:49:32,720 --> 01:49:34,479
Speaker 2: proud you are of them. Oh, okay.

2302
01:49:35,439 --> 01:49:38,000
Speaker 3: May we always find the words to give things, because

2303
01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:40,160
Speaker 3: when we do, we can weave a spell of gratitude

2304
01:49:40,280 --> 01:49:42,960
Speaker 3: even around our anxieties, as we offer them up as

2305
01:49:43,000 --> 01:49:46,040
Speaker 3: sacrifice on an altar, always with the intention to transform

2306
01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:49,679
Speaker 3: them to something, to something better than we could have imagined.

2307
01:49:49,720 --> 01:49:51,920
Speaker 2: Much lovey about Julie. Thank you, Julie, thank you.

2308
01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:53,080
Speaker 4: This is really sweet.

2309
01:49:54,720 --> 01:49:57,800
Speaker 3: And yeah, I definitely am planning to get outside and

2310
01:49:57,880 --> 01:49:59,840
Speaker 3: do a little bit more walking. It's now my spirit

2311
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:04,439
Speaker 3: our season. It was harder in the summer because it'd

2312
01:50:04,479 --> 01:50:07,599
Speaker 3: be hot as fuck and I hate I hate summer.

2313
01:50:07,760 --> 01:50:09,080
Speaker 4: You have to do it early in the morning.

2314
01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:11,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the timing is all fucked up.

2315
01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:14,840
Speaker 3: We've been super busy the last few weeks, so that's

2316
01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:16,639
Speaker 3: one of the reasons I really got out there.

2317
01:50:16,760 --> 01:50:20,240
Speaker 2: But I definitely plan to do more just going out walking.

2318
01:50:21,960 --> 01:50:23,640
Speaker 2: At the other day, it was.

2319
01:50:23,720 --> 01:50:27,080
Speaker 4: Just I was sitting here and I was like, I'm gonna,

2320
01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:29,880
Speaker 4: you know, I got to get out, Like I almost

2321
01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:31,960
Speaker 4: missed something. I was like, I gotta go outside, just

2322
01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:34,120
Speaker 4: like you know, we got some skip throws, like suppose

2323
01:50:34,120 --> 01:50:35,240
Speaker 4: to that finished, I'm going outside.

2324
01:50:35,680 --> 01:50:35,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2325
01:50:35,920 --> 01:50:39,360
Speaker 3: The other thing I do too is I uh, we

2326
01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:43,000
Speaker 3: have an exercise thing in here too. I'll do that

2327
01:50:43,120 --> 01:50:45,120
Speaker 3: sometimes too to get the blood pump into the brain.

2328
01:50:45,200 --> 01:50:46,840
Speaker 3: But nah, I feel you, Julie, and thank you.

2329
01:50:48,240 --> 01:50:48,599
Speaker 2: Let's see.

2330
01:50:48,640 --> 01:50:50,960
Speaker 3: John says, good morning riding Karen, or should I say

2331
01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:55,120
Speaker 3: black capitalists and neo liberals sellouts roding Karen major.

2332
01:50:55,160 --> 01:50:57,519
Speaker 2: Congrats on Spotify deal. Y'all deserve it and I hope

2333
01:50:57,560 --> 01:50:58,200
Speaker 2: it helps you all.

2334
01:50:58,520 --> 01:51:00,559
Speaker 3: By all, the punkin is Fies product you can get

2335
01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:03,080
Speaker 3: don't Sleep on the eiple side of donuts to trade Joe's.

2336
01:51:03,080 --> 01:51:06,400
Speaker 3: If you haven't gone yet, we have not, Thanks so

2337
01:51:06,520 --> 01:51:08,360
Speaker 3: much for that rant. About Pelosi and the way she

2338
01:51:08,479 --> 01:51:11,720
Speaker 3: and the Democrats are held a ridiculous double standard. There's

2339
01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:14,080
Speaker 3: a running joke on one of my favorite liberal blaws

2340
01:51:14,120 --> 01:51:17,120
Speaker 3: called merks Law. Merks Law is simply that only Democrats

2341
01:51:17,200 --> 01:51:19,840
Speaker 3: have agency, so they get all the blame no matter what,

2342
01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:23,559
Speaker 3: and it's always a Democrats fault despite what the GOP does.

2343
01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:26,040
Speaker 3: It's a sadly common outlook, even on the left and

2344
01:51:26,040 --> 01:51:29,280
Speaker 3: in society as a whole. Republicans are just nasty, racist

2345
01:51:29,320 --> 01:51:31,559
Speaker 3: tdlers who can't ever be expected to not be awful,

2346
01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:35,920
Speaker 3: so everyone focuses at criticism and blame on Democrats. Yes,

2347
01:51:36,200 --> 01:51:38,599
Speaker 3: that's one of the reasons why I've read that Chris

2348
01:51:38,720 --> 01:51:41,640
Speaker 3: Rock quote about Pelosi and I was just like, bro,

2349
01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:44,280
Speaker 3: come on, we I'm.

2350
01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:46,479
Speaker 2: Sure at some point I'll talk about this if I

2351
01:51:46,560 --> 01:51:47,200
Speaker 2: haven't already.

2352
01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:52,240
Speaker 3: But we have to stop thinking it is smart to

2353
01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:55,519
Speaker 3: say both sides are just kind of fucked up.

2354
01:51:55,680 --> 01:51:59,600
Speaker 2: We have to stop thinking that it's not okay, and

2355
01:51:59,680 --> 01:52:04,800
Speaker 2: it's is literally stupid. It is literally the dumbest fucking

2356
01:52:04,840 --> 01:52:05,519
Speaker 2: thing you can say.

2357
01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:08,040
Speaker 3: You think you're being smart because we've been told and

2358
01:52:08,160 --> 01:52:11,360
Speaker 3: taught our whole lives that being quote unquote unbiased and

2359
01:52:11,439 --> 01:52:12,720
Speaker 3: objective is the goal.

2360
01:52:13,520 --> 01:52:17,200
Speaker 2: But you can't be unbiased and objective with everything, and

2361
01:52:17,320 --> 01:52:21,000
Speaker 2: people do it with everything. You know, there were people

2362
01:52:21,439 --> 01:52:25,080
Speaker 2: during the fucking slavery being like, yeah, slavery is bad,

2363
01:52:25,479 --> 01:52:27,280
Speaker 2: or if you look at it from that perspective, But

2364
01:52:27,400 --> 01:52:30,040
Speaker 2: if you think about the other perspective, who are they

2365
01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:31,880
Speaker 2: to be telling people not to haven slaves? You're like,

2366
01:52:32,720 --> 01:52:35,800
Speaker 2: what the fuck? You know what I mean? You watch?

2367
01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:36,559
Speaker 2: I watched the.

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Speaker 3: Vice president of debate immediately after. Yeah, you know, Vice

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01:52:42,360 --> 01:52:45,800
Speaker 3: President Prince didn't answer any questions and he lied many

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01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:48,519
Speaker 3: many times, and we fact checked and he interrupted her

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01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:50,840
Speaker 3: ten times, but she interrupted him five.

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Speaker 2: And you're like, am I going crazy? Am I fucking

2373
01:52:55,160 --> 01:53:00,280
Speaker 2: tasting Penny's? Am I seeing double? What the fuck did

2374
01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:00,960
Speaker 2: we just watch?

2375
01:53:01,040 --> 01:53:03,760
Speaker 3: And why do you think the right thing to do

2376
01:53:03,960 --> 01:53:06,720
Speaker 3: is to have equal criticism of both? Like I'll show

2377
01:53:06,760 --> 01:53:10,920
Speaker 3: you that, I'll criticize them both. Sometimes a motherfucker is

2378
01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:15,880
Speaker 3: so abhorrent, that's the story, right, And I think that's

2379
01:53:15,920 --> 01:53:18,960
Speaker 3: what happens. People think it's smart to be like democrats, right,

2380
01:53:19,520 --> 01:53:21,639
Speaker 3: I mean, they not good either.

2381
01:53:21,720 --> 01:53:27,880
Speaker 2: It's like Nigga, we are fighting Satan, Like, oh my god,

2382
01:53:28,400 --> 01:53:29,280
Speaker 2: when it comes to Pelosi.

2383
01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:31,400
Speaker 3: It's extra frustrating because so many your critics claim to

2384
01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:34,080
Speaker 3: be about all about empowering and supporting women, yet they

2385
01:53:34,160 --> 01:53:38,360
Speaker 3: constantly shit on Pelosi and Hillary and Kamala at Kamala,

2386
01:53:39,400 --> 01:53:42,800
Speaker 3: completely ignoring the fact that these women are literally accomplishing

2387
01:53:42,840 --> 01:53:47,240
Speaker 3: stuff that no women ever have. Yes, and here's the

2388
01:53:47,320 --> 01:53:52,720
Speaker 3: other part about that. They use that they use your

2389
01:53:52,960 --> 01:53:57,040
Speaker 3: success against you. So what it is they and they're

2390
01:53:57,120 --> 01:53:59,519
Speaker 3: always rooting for the next one. They never see the

2391
01:53:59,560 --> 01:54:03,360
Speaker 3: pattern of themselves like they'll like so right now, it's

2392
01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:07,040
Speaker 3: like those people are glimbing on to Alexandri Cossio, Cortez

2393
01:54:07,080 --> 01:54:09,880
Speaker 3: a Yat oppressed lee oha Omar get.

2394
01:54:09,840 --> 01:54:13,200
Speaker 4: Them and they'll be tearing them down to What they don't.

2395
01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:17,719
Speaker 3: Realize is that it takes years to rise your star

2396
01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:20,880
Speaker 3: and get enough leverage to truly try to get some

2397
01:54:21,040 --> 01:54:23,240
Speaker 3: of your goals accomplished. And over those years you're gonna

2398
01:54:23,240 --> 01:54:27,040
Speaker 3: make compromises and also your goals might change that yeah.

2399
01:54:27,000 --> 01:54:31,840
Speaker 4: Right, you get older, the world changes, the demands of

2400
01:54:31,880 --> 01:54:34,800
Speaker 4: your district change, all types of stuff.

2401
01:54:35,080 --> 01:54:37,400
Speaker 2: You become beholding the more people than just your district.

2402
01:54:37,440 --> 01:54:38,160
Speaker 2: Things of this nature.

2403
01:54:38,200 --> 01:54:43,400
Speaker 3: So what happens is as they accumulate experience, we actually

2404
01:54:43,440 --> 01:54:46,520
Speaker 3: are gaining ammunition.

2405
01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:46,320
Speaker 2: To tear them down.

2406
01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:49,360
Speaker 3: So now we have that decision we didn't agree with

2407
01:54:49,560 --> 01:54:52,760
Speaker 3: five years ago, and we can go, well, you know, Alc,

2408
01:54:52,920 --> 01:54:54,880
Speaker 3: you guys think she's such hot shit, but you know,

2409
01:54:55,000 --> 01:54:57,680
Speaker 3: five years ago she said this, and then it becomes

2410
01:54:57,800 --> 01:55:00,240
Speaker 3: a thing, and then the next thing, and then next

2411
01:55:00,280 --> 01:55:02,480
Speaker 3: thing and the next thing, and eventually, by the time

2412
01:55:02,760 --> 01:55:04,720
Speaker 3: this person that we thought was so great when she

2413
01:55:04,840 --> 01:55:08,200
Speaker 3: was fresh faced becomes you know, forty five year old

2414
01:55:08,400 --> 01:55:11,200
Speaker 3: Alexandri Kassek Coorte is ready to run for president, we

2415
01:55:11,280 --> 01:55:13,760
Speaker 3: don't like her no more. Now we got a new

2416
01:55:13,840 --> 01:55:15,880
Speaker 3: one and coming in that we're like, now, this one,

2417
01:55:16,320 --> 01:55:19,640
Speaker 3: this is the one, and no one fucking does that

2418
01:55:19,840 --> 01:55:20,920
Speaker 3: when it comes to dudes.

2419
01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:23,840
Speaker 2: Never, When dudes do that kind.

2420
01:55:23,720 --> 01:55:26,680
Speaker 3: Of shit, we just accept it as part of the thing, right,

2421
01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:29,440
Speaker 3: And when Republicans do it, get the fuck out it.

2422
01:55:29,480 --> 01:55:32,320
Speaker 2: We don't even care. It's not even a thing. If anything,

2423
01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:34,960
Speaker 2: it's a positive thing when they do shit. So yeah.

2424
01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:39,280
Speaker 3: On a related note, here's a podcast interview with Christine Pelosi,

2425
01:55:39,400 --> 01:55:42,080
Speaker 3: Nancy's sister, who's also a DIM organizer, that has some

2426
01:55:42,200 --> 01:55:45,320
Speaker 3: interesting insights about Nancy and how she operates and views

2427
01:55:45,320 --> 01:55:48,839
Speaker 3: her job. And it's called how We Win episode sixteen.

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01:55:49,080 --> 01:55:50,160
Speaker 2: I had to check that one out.

2429
01:55:51,720 --> 01:55:53,840
Speaker 3: Anyways, I appreciate the fact you actually talk about this

2430
01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:56,800
Speaker 3: stuff while also acknowledging the political realities about sexism and

2431
01:55:56,800 --> 01:55:58,760
Speaker 3: the elector with forty percent of the voters are completely

2432
01:55:58,800 --> 01:56:01,560
Speaker 3: batshit crazy. If you have ever tried to put together

2433
01:56:01,560 --> 01:56:03,600
Speaker 3: a pizza order for an office full of workers, you

2434
01:56:03,720 --> 01:56:05,640
Speaker 3: know how hard it is to get agreement on anything.

2435
01:56:05,800 --> 01:56:08,400
Speaker 4: Yep, So why they do basic cheese and pepperoni? They

2436
01:56:08,480 --> 01:56:09,480
Speaker 4: fuck it? Nothing else.

2437
01:56:09,720 --> 01:56:13,200
Speaker 3: Politicians have to serve that role for far more important

2438
01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:16,160
Speaker 3: life death issues. Where has the office wants pepperoni and

2439
01:56:16,240 --> 01:56:19,680
Speaker 3: the other half wants the tire rims and anthrax is

2440
01:56:19,680 --> 01:56:22,880
Speaker 3: the pizza topping. It's a hard job and I have

2441
01:56:23,200 --> 01:56:25,960
Speaker 3: nothing but respect for any Democrat willing to do that work,

2442
01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:28,879
Speaker 3: especially the ones in the deep red parts of the country.

2443
01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:29,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2444
01:56:29,720 --> 01:56:36,760
Speaker 3: I agree, and specifically on that the part about politicians.

2445
01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:39,880
Speaker 3: People look at politicians as these individual people who make

2446
01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:44,800
Speaker 3: individual decisions. They are a collection of the people who

2447
01:56:45,040 --> 01:56:47,840
Speaker 3: support them, the people who finance them, and the people

2448
01:56:47,920 --> 01:56:48,880
Speaker 3: who vote for them.

2449
01:56:49,480 --> 01:56:49,840
Speaker 2: That's it.

2450
01:56:50,760 --> 01:56:54,440
Speaker 3: So any failing a politician has represents a failing of

2451
01:56:54,560 --> 01:56:57,960
Speaker 3: either the system or failing of the people, because and

2452
01:56:58,120 --> 01:57:01,840
Speaker 3: the people in America use politicians as an avatar to

2453
01:57:02,080 --> 01:57:05,280
Speaker 3: never take any fucking responsibility. That's why, that's why you

2454
01:57:05,400 --> 01:57:08,040
Speaker 3: have so many people who think objecting the voting is

2455
01:57:08,120 --> 01:57:11,600
Speaker 3: some sort of like bold statement when it's literally you

2456
01:57:11,840 --> 01:57:14,959
Speaker 3: objecting from having responsibility of anything.

2457
01:57:15,560 --> 01:57:15,760
Speaker 2: Right.

2458
01:57:16,040 --> 01:57:18,560
Speaker 3: The process doesn't work exactly how I wanted to, So

2459
01:57:18,720 --> 01:57:20,800
Speaker 3: fuck it. I'm gonna let you die. That's what you're

2460
01:57:20,840 --> 01:57:22,680
Speaker 3: telling me, And then you want me to high five

2461
01:57:22,760 --> 01:57:26,680
Speaker 3: you like you're welcome to me. I have two quick,

2462
01:57:26,840 --> 01:57:29,520
Speaker 3: two quick TV questions. One have you checked out Netflix

2463
01:57:29,560 --> 01:57:33,120
Speaker 3: series The Kingdom. It's Korean historical zombie story and it's

2464
01:57:33,200 --> 01:57:35,280
Speaker 3: really superb. I think as a fan of martial arts,

2465
01:57:35,360 --> 01:57:37,400
Speaker 3: zombies and high quality foreign series, I think you might

2466
01:57:37,480 --> 01:57:40,240
Speaker 3: dig it. It's on a list along with a million

2467
01:57:40,320 --> 01:57:42,000
Speaker 3: other things, but it is on my list and it

2468
01:57:42,040 --> 01:57:42,840
Speaker 3: has been for a while.

2469
01:57:43,400 --> 01:57:43,560
Speaker 2: Two.

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01:57:43,680 --> 01:57:45,960
Speaker 3: Have you considered doing a recap or review? If I

2471
01:57:46,040 --> 01:57:48,000
Speaker 3: may destroy you? That shows filled with so much stuff

2472
01:57:48,040 --> 01:57:50,080
Speaker 3: for a deeper discussion. If not, do you know any

2473
01:57:50,120 --> 01:57:51,560
Speaker 3: good podcasts who covered it?

2474
01:57:52,120 --> 01:57:55,400
Speaker 2: Thanks for all you both do. Stay safe, John well,

2475
01:57:55,440 --> 01:57:57,200
Speaker 2: we did not do a recap of it. I have

2476
01:57:57,360 --> 01:57:59,440
Speaker 2: watched it myself. I thought it was excellent.

2477
01:58:00,040 --> 01:58:02,160
Speaker 3: I think people aren't talking about it for the most

2478
01:58:02,200 --> 01:58:05,080
Speaker 3: part because it's not a black and white show where

2479
01:58:05,480 --> 01:58:08,320
Speaker 3: you got good and bad protagonists and shit, a lot

2480
01:58:08,400 --> 01:58:14,800
Speaker 3: of murky stuff around consent, sex, sexual assault, social media,

2481
01:58:14,840 --> 01:58:15,080
Speaker 3: all that.

2482
01:58:15,120 --> 01:58:19,440
Speaker 2: Stuff of excellent excellent show. Two things I would recommend. One.

2483
01:58:20,320 --> 01:58:22,520
Speaker 3: I believe it was Vanity Fair UK, but it may

2484
01:58:22,560 --> 01:58:26,120
Speaker 3: have been a different maybe Vogue or something. But there's

2485
01:58:26,120 --> 01:58:32,240
Speaker 3: an interview where MICHAELA. Cole and Donald Glover both like

2486
01:58:32,360 --> 01:58:35,520
Speaker 3: have a conversation and then they put it out in

2487
01:58:35,640 --> 01:58:36,160
Speaker 3: print form.

2488
01:58:36,680 --> 01:58:41,600
Speaker 2: Check that out that shit is bars two. Check out

2489
01:58:41,680 --> 01:58:44,000
Speaker 2: Tea with Queen and Jay. They did a recap of

2490
01:58:44,160 --> 01:58:45,040
Speaker 2: I May Destroy You.

2491
01:58:46,800 --> 01:58:50,480
Speaker 3: Of the whole season on not the latest podcast of

2492
01:58:50,560 --> 01:58:54,040
Speaker 3: the episode before that, and you know, they go into

2493
01:58:54,080 --> 01:58:55,200
Speaker 3: depth with that kind of stuff.

2494
01:58:55,240 --> 01:58:57,360
Speaker 2: I'm not really a recap person.

2495
01:58:57,520 --> 01:59:00,840
Speaker 3: I don't listen to anyone else's recaps of shit that

2496
01:59:01,120 --> 01:59:04,520
Speaker 3: That's where my arrogance and narcissism kicks in. I like

2497
01:59:04,680 --> 01:59:08,920
Speaker 3: to have my opinion on things and not even really

2498
01:59:09,000 --> 01:59:12,720
Speaker 3: be borrowed or bothered by other people's opinions because I

2499
01:59:12,880 --> 01:59:16,600
Speaker 3: feel strongly about the ship that I consume, So and I,

2500
01:59:16,760 --> 01:59:19,080
Speaker 3: and it's unfair to put that on other people, you

2501
01:59:19,160 --> 01:59:19,600
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

2502
01:59:19,720 --> 01:59:21,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, but you didn't feel exactly how I feel.

2503
01:59:22,200 --> 01:59:24,120
Speaker 2: So and y'all know.

2504
01:59:24,200 --> 01:59:27,400
Speaker 3: I'm just not a very critical by me, by which

2505
01:59:27,440 --> 01:59:30,640
Speaker 3: I mean like negative critical type of person. So I

2506
01:59:30,720 --> 01:59:32,720
Speaker 3: don't like to listen to people's shit on things I like.

2507
01:59:33,320 --> 01:59:34,400
Speaker 2: And I know that going in.

2508
01:59:34,600 --> 01:59:37,080
Speaker 3: So it's my fault, you know what I'm saying. So

2509
01:59:37,200 --> 01:59:39,000
Speaker 3: I just I just normally don't listen to a lot

2510
01:59:39,040 --> 01:59:40,200
Speaker 3: of recaps.

2511
01:59:39,760 --> 01:59:40,480
Speaker 2: Of TV shows.

2512
01:59:40,600 --> 01:59:42,320
Speaker 4: Most recaps I don't listen to very few.

2513
01:59:42,600 --> 01:59:42,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2514
01:59:43,160 --> 01:59:46,000
Speaker 3: But but but that being said, I've listened to some

2515
01:59:46,120 --> 01:59:48,960
Speaker 3: of Tea with Queen and Ja their recaps, and they're

2516
01:59:48,960 --> 01:59:52,560
Speaker 3: always well done. Very critical from H and I don't

2517
01:59:52,600 --> 01:59:54,920
Speaker 3: mean critical in the mean way. I mean very critical

2518
01:59:55,080 --> 01:59:59,520
Speaker 3: is like critical thought, critical race theory from two women

2519
01:59:59,520 --> 02:00:02,760
Speaker 3: that's racing, so and so. You'll get the lens of

2520
02:00:02,920 --> 02:00:06,880
Speaker 3: all those issues in one place. And uh, I think

2521
02:00:07,120 --> 02:00:09,040
Speaker 3: you know you can't go wrong, So y'all should just

2522
02:00:09,080 --> 02:00:10,240
Speaker 3: be listening to them anyway.

2523
02:00:10,840 --> 02:00:10,960
Speaker 4: Uh.

2524
02:00:11,280 --> 02:00:11,600
Speaker 2: Derek A.

2525
02:00:11,640 --> 02:00:13,920
Speaker 3: Wright saying congratulations on getting to the money. Hey, y'all

2526
02:00:14,520 --> 02:00:16,360
Speaker 3: just got to the episode. Now some Spotify deal.

2527
02:00:16,680 --> 02:00:20,360
Speaker 2: The stunting in this episode too good. I just wanted

2528
02:00:20,360 --> 02:00:22,200
Speaker 2: to say congratulations to you both. Y'all are great people

2529
02:00:22,200 --> 02:00:24,600
Speaker 2: and deserve it all. Keep growing, keep being great. Love

2530
02:00:24,640 --> 02:00:28,280
Speaker 2: the black Out tips. Thank you. We got a gift

2531
02:00:28,400 --> 02:00:33,760
Speaker 2: from Pamela Love who sent us something to mail.

2532
02:00:35,080 --> 02:00:36,640
Speaker 4: And it is.

2533
02:00:40,160 --> 02:00:43,760
Speaker 2: Right here. Y'all can see it on the camera. I

2534
02:00:43,800 --> 02:00:47,560
Speaker 2: don't know if y'all can see that, but all right, cool.

2535
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Speaker 2: Uh it's eating essentials butter for hair and body, Okay,

2536
02:00:53,240 --> 02:00:54,080
Speaker 2: citrus fusion.

2537
02:00:56,680 --> 02:00:59,280
Speaker 3: I love that we both got our own bottles because

2538
02:00:59,320 --> 02:01:02,600
Speaker 3: KRT things. He's a both of her, but ah, one

2539
02:01:02,640 --> 02:01:03,240
Speaker 3: of these is mine.

2540
02:01:03,320 --> 02:01:08,400
Speaker 2: Nigga. Nice try. Hey rod and Karen, congrats.

2541
02:01:08,560 --> 02:01:10,040
Speaker 4: You better be glad you got to take care of

2542
02:01:10,120 --> 02:01:12,120
Speaker 4: that beer because if not, I yanked that at your

2543
02:01:12,200 --> 02:01:13,960
Speaker 4: hands and the skin he.

2544
02:01:14,440 --> 02:01:16,680
Speaker 3: Rodan and Karen, congrats on your new Spotify deal. This

2545
02:01:16,840 --> 02:01:19,080
Speaker 3: is a product that both of you can use, So

2546
02:01:19,200 --> 02:01:20,240
Speaker 3: there's a jar for each.

2547
02:01:21,120 --> 02:01:24,720
Speaker 2: Thank you, so we can split black owned company.

2548
02:01:24,960 --> 02:01:27,440
Speaker 3: Grateful folk. See if not for your hair, then for

2549
02:01:27,520 --> 02:01:31,360
Speaker 3: your skin. Love your show, Pamela, Thank you, pam thank you,

2550
02:01:31,600 --> 02:01:33,800
Speaker 3: and you know we absolutely will be using this. We

2551
02:01:33,880 --> 02:01:36,120
Speaker 3: got a card too, and we got a card too,

2552
02:01:36,200 --> 02:01:39,000
Speaker 3: but we got more emails. Simone says, Hey, Karen and Rod,

2553
02:01:39,560 --> 02:01:41,800
Speaker 3: I said congrats on Facebook, but since I fell behind

2554
02:01:41,840 --> 02:01:43,800
Speaker 3: on episodes, I had to go back and watch crowdcasts,

2555
02:01:43,840 --> 02:01:47,000
Speaker 3: replaces replay to see your faces during the big announcement.

2556
02:01:47,040 --> 02:01:49,720
Speaker 2: Congratulations, My favor are gonna collect Spotify checks.

2557
02:01:50,080 --> 02:01:52,400
Speaker 3: So glad you had the champagne on deck and the

2558
02:01:52,480 --> 02:01:55,000
Speaker 3: smiles on your faces bright in my day. I hope

2559
02:01:55,040 --> 02:01:57,960
Speaker 3: this is the beginning of many fantastic awards earned from

2560
02:01:58,080 --> 02:02:01,240
Speaker 3: years of providing truly hilarious thoughts on sightful inspiring content.

2561
02:02:01,600 --> 02:02:03,640
Speaker 2: You both have built a community that will ride with you,

2562
02:02:05,040 --> 02:02:10,880
Speaker 2: Ride with you. Excuse me, so I got caught of

2563
02:02:10,920 --> 02:02:17,440
Speaker 2: my throat means the water, Sorry, y'all Black Twitter must

2564
02:02:17,480 --> 02:02:18,880
Speaker 2: be you having some death wishes or something.

2565
02:02:18,920 --> 02:02:25,360
Speaker 3: My better get it together, my bad job. But I

2566
02:02:25,480 --> 02:02:27,280
Speaker 3: had to go back and watch the replay Da da

2567
02:02:27,320 --> 02:02:31,280
Speaker 3: da uh. So glad you had the champagne on deck

2568
02:02:32,000 --> 02:02:33,760
Speaker 3: and the smiles on your faces bright in my day.

2569
02:02:34,000 --> 02:02:37,200
Speaker 3: Hope this is beginning of many fantastic awards earned from

2570
02:02:37,280 --> 02:02:40,960
Speaker 3: years of providing truly hilarious stoptful, insightful, inspiring content. You

2571
02:02:41,040 --> 02:02:44,720
Speaker 3: both had to have built a good community that will

2572
02:02:44,800 --> 02:02:47,880
Speaker 3: ride with you on any platform until y'all go full

2573
02:02:47,960 --> 02:02:50,240
Speaker 3: set out and start promoting Trump propaganda.

2574
02:02:50,760 --> 02:02:52,560
Speaker 2: Imagine that full sellout.

2575
02:02:52,600 --> 02:02:56,200
Speaker 3: We just welcome to the black guy who says you

2576
02:02:56,360 --> 02:03:00,880
Speaker 3: niggas ain't shit and won't tip. She said this deal

2577
02:03:01,040 --> 02:03:02,720
Speaker 3: was you said, this deal was a long time in

2578
02:03:02,800 --> 02:03:05,440
Speaker 3: the making, but what a way to brightness. Insane ride

2579
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Speaker 3: of twenty twenty. Thank you, thank you, and oh and

2580
02:03:10,520 --> 02:03:14,240
Speaker 3: then the Atkins says this. Oh, Theakins is the person

2581
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Speaker 3: that send us the donation music.

2582
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Speaker 4: Thank you baby, Hey, Rody Cara.

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Speaker 3: A little late to call for new segment music, but

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Speaker 3: down the road if you need a different track to

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Speaker 3: play for your donation segment.

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Speaker 2: I made something.

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02:03:25,120 --> 02:03:27,960
Speaker 3: I hope Mike work as a backup. If you like it, great,

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02:03:28,000 --> 02:03:30,760
Speaker 3: If not, that's fine too. Congratulates on Spotify. Deal love

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Speaker 3: the show, We love it. This shit was perfect. This

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Speaker 3: it was I mean, no shade the kirk, but this

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Speaker 3: is even better. Yes, it's got a little praising there.

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Speaker 3: I got a little bit of breakdown for the Holy Spirit.

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02:03:43,120 --> 02:03:45,680
Speaker 3: The Holy Ghost could come in the room like we're

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Speaker 3: gonna be using this, Like, honestly, this is literally one

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Speaker 3: of the sound effects I could never find on Spotify

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Speaker 3: that I always wanted.

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Speaker 2: I was like, why don't nobody just have a praise

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Speaker 2: and worship segment of a song.

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Speaker 4: That you just us as a sound of that piece song?

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Speaker 3: You know we'd be having jokes, and I'm like, this

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Speaker 3: will go great under a joke, and yes, you know

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Speaker 3: we talking about these megachurch passes and now we catch it.

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Speaker 3: Carla writes it, Hello Riding Karen. I've been listening to

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Speaker 3: your show for a while now. Put five on it

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Speaker 3: via iTunes a while back. I want to say thank

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Speaker 3: you for all the great shows and congratulations on your

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Speaker 3: Move the Fly, the five Chef's Kiss. Your show often

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Speaker 3: serves as a soundtrack to my walks and book bonding.

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Speaker 3: I have enjoyed the evolution of your show and the

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Speaker 3: growth in sirt Kelly's hand motion.

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Speaker 2: That's growth, you know what that is growth?

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Speaker 3: Thanks again for all the last during the crazy time.

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Speaker 3: Best regards, Carla, thank you, thank you, We appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate everybody that wrote in, all the people that

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Speaker 3: are in the Chad Live, thank you.

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Speaker 2: I gotta get out of here. I got to do

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Speaker 2: three guys on in about five minutes, so.

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Speaker 4: You're not gonna read the card.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna read the card because Karen just called

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Speaker 2: me out. Okay, I forgot that. I literally pulled the

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Speaker 2: card out and forgot, y'all. I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to be sure.

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Speaker 2: I like how Karen just assumed I was being a

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Speaker 2: dick for no reason, because it couldn't be all forgot cheering.

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Speaker 2: Way to go. Yeah, fantastic, this says dear Sir Roderick

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Speaker 2: and Lady Karen. So so excited to hear about your

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Speaker 2: Spotify deal. You too deserve it.

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Speaker 3: Enjoyed this moment and I wish you all the best.

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Speaker 3: Just wanted to send us in case Spotify doesn't let

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Speaker 3: us send you cards anymore. Being awesome, love Katanya, Thank

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Speaker 3: you put it with the other cars.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you.

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Speaker 4: I address hadn't changed.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, thank you everybody for right then, Thanks for

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Speaker 3: the gifts. Can't wait to put this on my beard,

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Speaker 3: wait to put it on my health and we will

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Speaker 3: talk to y'all tomorrow. Tomorrow's episode should be at eleven

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Speaker 3: am Eastern Standard time, and we should have some special guests.

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Speaker 2: Uh, and we're gonna be talking about voting overseas so

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Speaker 2: as American. So all right, y'all, talk to you tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Until then, I love you.

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Speaker 4: I love you too.

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Speaker 2: Come