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Speaker 2: Cross on the field for your preseason Week three rapid

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Speaker 2: reaction and as you can hear the celebratory music playing

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Speaker 2: in the background as we're standing on the sideline at

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Speaker 2: MetLife Stadium, the Giants come away with a forty two

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Speaker 2: to ten win over the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Howard, not only is this the third.

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Speaker 2: Straight preseason game the Giants have put up thirty or

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Speaker 2: more points, five offensive touchdowns at pick six In this one,

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Speaker 2: they scored one hundred and two points in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: How impressed are you with just that number right there?

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what you got to think about this.

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Speaker 3: The offensive line played remarkably well. No matter who's been

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Speaker 3: in the game by them playing well, They're giving these

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks the time to throw the ball, and teams all

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Speaker 3: around the league have been put on notice. The Giants

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Speaker 3: are going to throw the ball. Beet. They've done it

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Speaker 3: every game, every quarterback's done it. It's been very excited.

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Speaker 3: And the same thing goes through the defensive line. They

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Speaker 3: have picked up their play tremendously, being able to stop

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Speaker 3: the run, forcing guys to throw the ball and knock

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Speaker 3: the ball down and as you saw tonight, even intercept the.

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Speaker 2: Four touchdown and apologies from my math, it's one hundred

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Speaker 2: and seven points through the first three preseason games. You

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Speaker 2: know it's hard carry the two and all that, but

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Speaker 2: one hundred and seven points through three preseason games, including

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Speaker 2: forty two tonight five often si touchdowns a pick six is.

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Speaker 1: While we saw TJ. Moore really active with that.

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Speaker 2: Pick six, unfortunately for more parted off the field in

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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter with his right leg in what looked

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, that's really tough. So everybody from the

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Speaker 3: Giants sideline go over and shake his hand and pat

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Speaker 3: him on the head and say some prayers for him,

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Speaker 3: because nobody you don't want to see anybody get banged

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Speaker 3: up or hurt in the preseason, but unfortunately he went

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Speaker 3: out of the game. Would have to have an a

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Speaker 3: promising night now.

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Speaker 2: Jackson Dark got the start on Thursday night Primetime on

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Speaker 2: Prime Video at eight o'clock. Kickoff, Dark getting the start

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Speaker 2: very first drive. The Giants start on offense, receive the

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Speaker 2: ball first drive, Dart leads them down the field scores

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Speaker 1: We've heard for years how important it is for the.

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Speaker 2: Giants to start strong and to score on that opening possession.

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Speaker 1: But watching how Dart executed that first.

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Speaker 2: Drive of what will you know, likely be his last

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Speaker 2: start for quite some time, what did you.

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Speaker 1: Make of that?

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Speaker 3: I thought you did a good job moving the ball around.

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Speaker 3: He was able to get from his first to his

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Speaker 3: he's throwing the ball, which is great, which again leads

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Speaker 3: back to the offensive line. I thought the guys did

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Speaker 3: thing you better learn how to slide.

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Speaker 1: Queue up the goo goo dolls, right, why don't you slide?

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Speaker 2: We saw Jackson on fourth and four takeoff running and

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Speaker 1: The ball was punched out.

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Speaker 2: Fortunately for Dart and the Giants, there was a flag

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Speaker 1: So it wasn't free play.

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Speaker 2: It was defensive holding, so instead of losing the ball

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Speaker 1: He was evaluated for a concussion. He came up clean

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Speaker 2: Jameis Winston comes in right away throws a thirty yard

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Speaker 3: I think he learned to slide tonight. I think I

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Speaker 3: taking an unnecessary risk. So he learned something tonight. And

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Speaker 3: then you know, sitting on the bench watching Tommy DeVito

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Speaker 3: he scrambles, he gets down these slides, gets what he

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Speaker 2: Absolutely sliding not only to protect your body, but also

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Speaker 2: Giants would have lost possession on that play. Talking about that,

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Speaker 2: you know we saw James Winston I mentioned he came

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Speaker 1: What did you see from Jamis?

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Speaker 3: I thought Jamis did a good job getting the ball

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Speaker 3: But I can say this that these quarterbacks are throwing

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Speaker 2: There you go. Now, speaking of the defensive side of

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Speaker 2: He and Tay Banks have been battling out in camp,

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Speaker 1: So what have you seen from Flat in that?

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Speaker 2: Which is a battle that I know a lot of

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Speaker 3: You know, Flat's put on some weight that's the first

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Speaker 3: So ball skills cover very well. Uh and and he

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Speaker 3: I mean, they're gonna have to evaluate the all three games,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and of course cut down day Tuesday, not saying

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Speaker 2: the receiving end of a punt. It was muffed Turbo

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Speaker 2: The Patriots recover the ball at the twelve, the Giants twelve,

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Speaker 2: and you think, wow, they're you know, ten yards twelve

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Speaker 3: Well, the Giants did just enough to make some plays

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Speaker 3: of The Patriots shot themselves in the foot a little bit,

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Speaker 3: And as far as that play goes with the punt team,

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Speaker 2: Now, three preseason games down, three preseason wins for the

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of question marks around this roster. Where

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Speaker 2: would like to keep them all, but what position groups

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Speaker 3: I think it's kind of funny that, did you know

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Speaker 3: when we look at it this year, it's different in

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Speaker 3: Then that creates, you know, movement in the secondary. Who's

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Speaker 3: There are no more I guess you we'll call them

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Speaker 2: That can play, and I think they sign of a

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Speaker 3: Well, think about this, you got you got the quarterback

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Speaker 3: good job. They have different skill sets. But as far

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that tight end room. We saw Thomas Faedoni catching

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Speaker 2: A lot of questions that will be answered in the

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Speaker 2: for now, the Giants are celebrating a win, another preseason

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Speaker 2: win three and zero in the twenty twenty five preseason.

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Speaker 2: Forty two to ten is the final score as the

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Speaker 2: Giants beat the visiting New England Patriots on Thursday Night Football.

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