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Speaker 1: They check out this tweek from Dylan Hernandez La Times

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Speaker 1: Calmnist joining us in five seconds. Very simple, Tanner Scott

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Speaker 1: does it again. A lack of words from just about

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Speaker 1: anyone right now when we're talking about one of the

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Speaker 1: biggest reliever signings money wise of the off season and

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Speaker 1: Dylan joins us right now, Dylan, when you saw what happened,

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Speaker 1: what were your thoughts? If we forced you to say

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Speaker 1: more than one sentence, what were your thoughts?

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Speaker 2: Just wow, you know, I mean, it's it's kind of

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Speaker 2: Otani in reverse right where you know Tani kind of

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Speaker 2: seems to amaze you and kind of take your breath

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Speaker 2: away time and time again, and you're like, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: he did it again. This is like almost that in

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Speaker 2: reverse right where you're just kind of seeing like, you know,

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Speaker 2: at some point he's got to get it right, you think,

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Speaker 2: you know, and yeah, he just kind of did it

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Speaker 2: again last night.

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Speaker 3: Is this the biggest bust signing? I mean, is this

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Speaker 3: twek all the signing a bust already even if they

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Speaker 3: go out and win the World Series because he signed

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Speaker 3: a three year deal and he was one of the

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Speaker 3: guys that the Dodger fans are saying, oh man, we're

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Speaker 3: never gonna blow a lead with this because we have

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Speaker 3: Scott and Trying and Kirby Yates and Vessia and we

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Speaker 3: have an unstoppable bullpen Copek and we're never gonna lose.

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Speaker 3: And now all of a sudden he's blown what ten saves?

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Speaker 3: And he's his record is god awful? Eleven? Any what's eleventh?

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Speaker 3: Eleven and runs or something crazy?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it hasn't been good for sure, you know. And

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Speaker 2: I think that, right, I mean, this is the type

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Speaker 2: of contract really that the Dodgers have kind of avoided

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Speaker 2: giving to relievers outside of Kenlly Jansen, right, who was

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Speaker 2: kind of a special case. Right, this is we're talking

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Speaker 2: you know, Johnson. We're talking about, you know, a guy

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Speaker 2: that was kind of like on his way to the

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame all time, you know, career saves, leader

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Speaker 2: for the franchise and really stabilized that bullpen. Yeah, this

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Speaker 2: one can turn out to be pretty bad, right, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think that this isn't the type of contract that

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Speaker 2: you kind of load.

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Speaker 4: I think you got three more years after this.

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Speaker 2: You know, and just I think, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you kind of go back and look at it,

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Speaker 2: I mean the irony is is this kind of Okanie's

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Speaker 2: fault in that right? He faced Otani four times last

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Speaker 2: year in the NLDS, so TONI couldn't hit the guy

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Speaker 2: at all, and the Dodgers just said, you know, what

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Speaker 2: the hell with it, Let's let's go get this guy,

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Speaker 2: you know, partially to take him away from other teams.

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Speaker 2: And the thing just kind of backfired spectacularly. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if Atani gets like one hit off this guy in

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Speaker 2: the postseason, I'm not sure they give him seventy two

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Speaker 2: million dollars.

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Speaker 5: Finally they can blame something that's not going well on Otani.

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Speaker 5: Everything else is peaches for Otani, but on Tanner Scott.

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Speaker 5: Is this a mishandling of Tanner Scott has the Dodgers

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Speaker 5: montro that works for so many people besides keeping pitchers healthy.

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Speaker 5: Ben Did they handle him incorrectly? I don't I don't

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Speaker 5: watch enough games and didn't look up enough stats. Or

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Speaker 5: is this all a Tanner Scott thing?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I actually think that that it was. They did mishandle

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Speaker 4: Enning guy coming into this season. I mean, what may.

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Speaker 2: Tanner Scott so good in the playoffs last ye he

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Speaker 2: was like, okay, well Connie comes up, you bring in

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Speaker 2: Tanner Scott left on left. Yeah, you do have to

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Speaker 2: kind of get through Mooki after that, But then it's

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Speaker 2: Freddie Freeman, right, And then he really did a great job, right.

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Speaker 2: The Padres kind of deployed him very strategically, kind of

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Speaker 2: throwing him against those lefties, you know, And I think

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Speaker 2: at the beginning of the season, you get him kind

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Speaker 2: and then things just kind of snowball, right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think at this point you're just kind.

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Speaker 2: Of watching kind of with the you know, uncharacteristic fear

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Speaker 2: with which he's pitching right now. You know, it appears

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Speaker 2: to be just as much of a mental problem now

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Speaker 2: role that he had last year that earned him this deal,

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Speaker 2: that's not the same role really that he was asked

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Speaker 2: to perform this season.

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Speaker 4: Dylan.

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Speaker 3: First of all, what do they do right now? If

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Speaker 3: it's a one roun lead the ninth They're not bringing

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Speaker 3: in Tanner Scott and this is just a regular season.

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Speaker 3: What if they get to the postseason, will he be

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Speaker 3: on the roster? And would it be Kershaw closing game?

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Speaker 3: Would it be I mean, I can't believe I'm about.

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Speaker 5: To say this.

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Speaker 3: Roki Sazaki in the bullpen and maybe close the games?

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Speaker 3: I don't know what what do they do because this

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Speaker 3: was supposed to be again a lockdown bullpen. And who

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Speaker 3: closed a game in the Wildcard round Game one with

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Speaker 3: a one run lead in the ninth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think these are all great questions. I don't

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Speaker 2: think they know right now, you know, I mean, even

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Speaker 2: coming into this week, I think it was very telling.

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Speaker 2: You know, I asked Dave Roberts, you know, kind of

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Speaker 2: over the last week of the season, you're only going

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Speaker 2: to have so many, you know, high leverage innings.

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Speaker 4: You know, do you do you use those innings to

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Speaker 4: get guys like Canner Scott and Blake.

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Speaker 2: Trining right, or do you use them more on kind

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Speaker 2: of like experimental guys, right, like the Rokie Sasaki's, you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe Will Klein who just got called back up and

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Speaker 2: you know it looked okay in his first two appearances,

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Speaker 2: And you know, Dave Roberts really didn't have an answer

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Speaker 2: at that point, I don't. I think at this point

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Speaker 2: they're just gonna Yeah, I don't know, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think that's a really good question. I mean I

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Speaker 2: I kind of personally like the Kershaw thing, just because

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Speaker 2: we know at least he won't like shrink from the moment.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: That said, if you kind of look at him this year,

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Speaker 2: the one inning that's giving him trouble is actually the

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Speaker 2: first inning right in this starts, So you know, coming

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Speaker 2: in cold like that, is he going to be able

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Speaker 2: Sasaki has never you know, until last week that he

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Speaker 2: pitched those two made those two relief appearances at Triple A,

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Speaker 2: he had never pitched in relief in his life. So

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Speaker 2: they're at a very very desperate state right now.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I my.

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Speaker 2: Feeling is that no option is a good one at

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Speaker 2: this point. You know, they're probably you know, like, let's

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Speaker 2: just theoretically, say they do get to the World Series somehow.

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Speaker 2: You know, my guess is that you're going to have

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Speaker 2: Because I just don't know, how they're going to fill up,

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Speaker 2: you know, fill up these innings. You know, I know

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Speaker 2: Alex Vesia has been like their most reliable guy. You know,

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Speaker 2: if there's one guy you're going to kind of designate,

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Speaker 2: it's like, this is our guy in the bullpen, it's

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Speaker 2: Alex Vesia. Well, he had to pitch the eighth inning yesterday,

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Speaker 2: he had to face Marte and Carrol. I mean, he

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Speaker 2: that was kind of the meat of the lineup there,

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Speaker 2: So you can't say him for the ninth in that situation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I don't. I don't know what they're gonna do.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's really not enough time to

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Speaker 2: You know, they brought in Jack Dryer, who's looked pretty

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Speaker 2: good kind of in low leverage situations. They pitched him

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Speaker 2: in kind of a pressure situation last night. He gave

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Speaker 2: up runs. You know, you know, Edgardo n Riquez certainly

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Speaker 2: has like the you know, the the you know, I

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Speaker 2: would say the presence of a future closer. He's pretty

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Speaker 2: good in low leverage situations.

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Speaker 4: Do you want to bring him this young kid in

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Speaker 4: in the ninth I don't know, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, And again I I I think you know, they're

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Speaker 2: gonna need some luck, you know, to kind of figure

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Speaker 2: this out on the fly, probably because they're gonna, you know,

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Speaker 2: one of one or two of these experiments could go

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Speaker 5: First of all, Dylan Yamamoto's not throwing on anything but

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Speaker 5: six days rest. He ain't closing jack out. That guy

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Speaker 5: hasn't seen him mound outside of his six days of

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Speaker 5: rest that he gets. But secondly, why do we need

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Speaker 5: to have this conversation? They have the best starting rotation.

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Speaker 5: Will the Dodgers allow those guys to stay in the game.

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Speaker 5: Unlike every other year that we've seen the Dodgers where

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Speaker 5: it's like oh five and dive see you later, they

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Speaker 5: is Dave Roberts going to completely flip the analytical switch

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Speaker 5: and go glass now Yamamoto, Blake Snell show, Hey, you

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Speaker 5: guys have been nails the last month. We're keeping you

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Speaker 5: in for six, maybe even seven or eight innings.

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Speaker 2: You don't think he has a choice, right And you know,

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Speaker 2: one thing I've kind of been telling people is I

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Speaker 2: think in a way Roberts might be kind of be

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Speaker 2: getting set up almost for a grady little moment, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, if anything, you know, kind of the irony

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Speaker 2: criticized a lot for pulling the starters too early. Obviously

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Speaker 2: there's the input from the front office. I mean, he's

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Speaker 2: not making these decisions on his own. But you know,

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Speaker 2: kind of in this hypothetical situation, you know, let's be honest, right,

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Speaker 2: Blake Snell is as good as he is in the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: he's kind of like a five inning pitcher.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: Let's hypothetically say you're in the sixth inning now, and

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Speaker 2: your option is to right, continue to go with Blake

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Speaker 2: Snell or bring in Edgardo Enriquez, who again is kind

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Speaker 4: At this point, My guess is that a lot of times.

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Speaker 2: Now he's going to kind of lean on these starting

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Speaker 2: I could see this, just the way the game has

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Speaker 2: evolved in everything, that that could also kind of backfire.

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Speaker 2: We don't see, guys, you know, I mean the game

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Speaker 2: has changed for a reason, right, I Mean, you got

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Speaker 2: all these guys coming out of the bullpen throwing a hundred.

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Speaker 2: You know, you kind of change them up according to

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Speaker 2: kind of the matchups. You know, guys obviously do better,

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: And I do kind of wonder if Roberts is going

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Speaker 2: have to kind of bet on the starter just because

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Speaker 2: of the lack of alternatives here.

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Speaker 6: Ft fan.

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Speaker 3: Hell, how big of a deal is it that they're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I mean it's you know, we've right, I mean,

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Speaker 2: But what if you lose those two games? I mean,

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Speaker 2: And this is the type of situation actually where I

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Speaker 3: In Tony's got to start game one. He's been their best.

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Speaker 6: Pitch, Yeah, and he's lined up for it.

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Speaker 6: You got to get through the wildcard round.

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Speaker 1: Like, you don't have to use any of the guys

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Speaker 6: Right, Like you you could theoretically go who are our.

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Speaker 6: Crazy, but it could happen, right, that would be awesome.

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Speaker 2: Uh you know, and again like given their options at least,

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Speaker 5: Obviously, the fear is that the bullpen has to get

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely offensively, it takes away a lot, right,

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Speaker 2: And you know, again, it's one thing I think if

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Speaker 4: You don't know that now, right, I mean.

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Speaker 2: They might have to be in they're in this position

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Speaker 2: if that's the case, you know, obviously you take out,

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Speaker 2: like you said, the best hitting catcher, you know, one

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Speaker 4: Uh, that that's gonna kill you.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Dylan, great insight. Thank you for joining us, and

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Speaker 1: I guess we'll finish on a high note. Dodger fans

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Speaker 1: won the World Series last year, and you're gonna make

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Speaker 3: They're gonna win the division again. They're up to and

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Speaker 3: they have the tiebreak, so they're going to win the division. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they're gonna get home playoff games after that.

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Speaker 1: We don't know, yeah, exactly, Dylan, Thank you

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Speaker 4: Thank you for having me on