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Speaker 1: This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass, an iHeartRadio podcast. Hello,

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Speaker 1: my Little Peanuts, it's me your host, Lance Bass. This

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Speaker 1: is Frosted Tips with Me and my lovely co host

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Speaker 1: Michael Turchin.

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Speaker 2: Hello there everyone.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we do need to talk about a few things

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Speaker 1: before we bring you on our guests. All right. One,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Barbie is the talk of the world right now,

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Speaker 1: and I want to remind everyone that there is an

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Speaker 1: instinct Barbie. Yeah, did you forget about this? Did you

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Speaker 1: have them?

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Speaker 2: I never knew about it to forget about it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of forgot about it too until I

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Speaker 1: saw someone post about it. I'm like, oh, yeah, we

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Speaker 1: had because it was Barbie instinct number one fan, Barbie.

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Speaker 1: Did y'all know that Barbie is instincts number one fan? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Oh damn, it's a thing. It's a thing. They had three.

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Speaker 1: They had Barbie which came with the bye Bye bye

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Speaker 1: c D obviously c D. Teresa so was this I

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Speaker 1: Promise you this one, and she had this I Promise

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Speaker 1: you and then Christy had It's gonna be Mac. So

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Speaker 1: there were three instinct dolls. And I'm sure now that

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Speaker 1: it's the new thing they're going to come back out

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Speaker 1: and they're going to release new CDs of US. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: CDs only, CDs only, Yeah, with the bucket hats and

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Speaker 1: all that. So yes, So if you still have your

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Speaker 1: instinct barbies, they're probably worth at least ten dollars at

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Speaker 1: least at least something that I wouldn't want to talk

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Speaker 1: about on the show what uh you know, there's weird

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Speaker 1: things happening at concerts these days. The one, people are

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Speaker 1: starting to throw cell phones and water bottles at artists.

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Speaker 1: It's just like, like, why are people throwing hard things

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Speaker 1: at artists on the on the st It's like, this

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Speaker 1: cannot become a trend. This is I mean, if it

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Speaker 1: becomes a trend, and guess what, they're gonna be taking

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Speaker 1: your phones away at the door. That's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 1: And it's also so they're gonna start resting you. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it is you can't do it someone on

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Speaker 1: the street, what's her? Who's the one?

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Speaker 2: Who? I mean?

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Speaker 1: Cut her face? And uh baby, yeah, I mean it's

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Speaker 1: that's nuts. So let's not make this a trend. But

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Speaker 1: another thing that happened that was kind of a little

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Speaker 1: off was Miranda Lambert I'm sure you've heard, kind of

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Speaker 1: stopped her concert and scolded, some fans are taking a selfie,

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Speaker 1: you know, an influencer.

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Speaker 3: Obviously you know it was an influencer. It was a

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Speaker 3: group of middle aged women just having a girl's night.

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Speaker 3: They've got a vip fable at the Vegas show.

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Speaker 1: So it's Vegas. They were taking a group photos. So

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Speaker 1: did they go to the front of the stage and

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Speaker 1: they were in their booth just taking a selfie of

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Speaker 1: themselves and like had an opening so we could see

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Speaker 1: her on the stage exactly. So it wasn't they were

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Speaker 1: like in the distance. Oh okay, that's even worse.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And so Miranda then stops the show says, why

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Speaker 4: are you taking salefie during maschall.

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Speaker 2: The this is my impresion of Miranda Lambert if because

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Speaker 2: you didn't know.

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Speaker 4: And just like it was and then like when they

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Speaker 4: finally that haven't we listened to some music and then

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Speaker 4: of course she started she like looks at the fantasy

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Speaker 4: go in motions with her hands and says like sit down.

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Speaker 2: I was going to sit down. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: If I would have thrown my phone at her head,

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Speaker 3: I would have thrown the bottle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a little I mean, maybe she was having

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Speaker 2: But I saw videos come up.

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Speaker 3: She did it. Two other videos. I saw two other concents.

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Speaker 3: One man was just turned around talking to a friend

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Speaker 3: and she stopped the whole thing. And it's like, I

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Speaker 3: think that's mighty rougeer turning your back to me, sir.

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Speaker 3: It's like, get over yourself, woman, They paid what how

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Speaker 3: much money to go see see you? You usould be

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Speaker 3: grateful that they're paying money to see your butt. And

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Speaker 3: number two, they paid it. They could take as many

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Speaker 3: selfies as they want. Like, who you own them? They

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Speaker 2: You don't, you don't.

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Speaker 1: It's like to say to you, Miranda Lambert, this is ugh.

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Speaker 2: I'm so rubbled. I didn't even articulated.

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Speaker 1: Ruffled feathers with turkey. But can you like, can you?

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Speaker 3: I mentione Taylor Swift being like, oh, you're taking the

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Speaker 3: Sophie my concert. Let's shut down the whole show.

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Speaker 1: Well, don't understand if they're really interrupting a show, But

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Speaker 1: that's not interrupting a show. Like if you had like

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Speaker 2: If you're heckling or you're screaming.

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Speaker 3: Of course, you're taking a photo and you're in and

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Speaker 3: you're a Vegas act where you're doing this every night.

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Speaker 3: So get over it and be happy that you have

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Speaker 3: a think in Vegas and people want to take photos

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Speaker 1: Miranda Lambert, Well, if you ever see me performing, you

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Speaker 1: can take as many selfsh as you want. Yeah, just

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Speaker 1: going to put that out. Just don't throw phon, Just

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Speaker 1: don't throw not on my face. But you could throw cookies. No,

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Speaker 1: not even cookies, cookies. What would I like throwing at

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Speaker 1: me on stage? I mean, I do like a plushy

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Speaker 1: just because you know my kids will take all of them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So this secret stage that I perform on, I guess

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Speaker 1: I knows.

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Speaker 2: I know what I perform.

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Speaker 3: Please, well, next time Lance performs at your.

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Speaker 1: Remember Okay, let's get to Johnnie and Matt right now,

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Speaker 1: So let's take a little break when we come back

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Speaker 1: for now the boys I in t Now, this is

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Speaker 1: gonna be something new for most of y'all. I think, Uh,

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Speaker 1: this guy was in a couple of boy bands.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure we all remember from making the band for it,

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Speaker 3: and I remember, I remember I never.

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Speaker 1: Got to watch them making the bands. Yeah, you were

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Speaker 1: busy being in the band. Well, I think Otown ruined

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Speaker 1: it for me. I'm like, I'm not going to support

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Speaker 1: another boy band. But I do remember Danny Kane a

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Speaker 1: lot like that. That ever stood out.

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Speaker 2: Well, they were like the big success, like making the band.

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Speaker 3: Yeah did He canceled them on one of the seasons

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Speaker 3: along because they were in an argument and he was like, oh, his.

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Speaker 2: Ego is so bad, like don't talk back to me.

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Speaker 2: Well guess what.

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Speaker 3: The group's over bye and all this end of the

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Speaker 3: group right there because they talked back to it.

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Speaker 1: Well, Diddy doesn't have the most popular opinions. I have

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Speaker 1: to say. Maybe I'll tell that story later on the show.

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Speaker 1: But until down on the second break, we'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: Let's just get right into it, guys, here we go,

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Speaker 1: all right. Donald Joseph Playing is an American singer from Brooklyn,

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Speaker 1: New York. Started his career as a baby modeling and

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Speaker 1: then a young age getting minor roles on shows like

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Speaker 1: Nanny and My pd Blue. But ultimately you know Donnie

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Speaker 1: from making the band for where he was awarded his

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Speaker 1: own solo contract by Diddy. Welcome to the show, my.

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Speaker 5: Man, Thank you guys, Thank you guys for having me.

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Speaker 1: Too.

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Speaker 5: It's a pleasure to meet you, Lance and introduce your

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Speaker 5: friend here. Yeah, so this is Matt. This is Matthew Port.

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Speaker 5: He is my business partner here at our recording studio

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Speaker 5: in New York, the Loft Sound Studio.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so love Sound.

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Speaker 1: Tell us about Love Sound is recording studio, y'all finding

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Speaker 1: new artists and all that.

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Speaker 5: Yes, So we opened in twenty eleven. This is like

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Speaker 5: at the ten end of when I was doing my

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Speaker 5: artist stuff and the transition from being in the spotlight

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Speaker 5: to not being in the spotlight. This was like home.

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Speaker 5: This was like we opened up this spot to try

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Speaker 5: then also share our knowledge and our network and everybody

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Speaker 5: that I met in the business through the years, share

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Speaker 5: that experience and share that knowledge, and then also continue

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Speaker 5: artist development because we came from that. I know, you

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Speaker 5: came from that. That was like something that was missing

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's so true. I always say that, you know,

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Speaker 1: when we were kind of going up in the business,

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Speaker 1: it was all about you know, really that aring of anything.

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Speaker 1: Now you have to have a full album to get

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Speaker 1: signed to a label. These days, like no one puts

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Speaker 1: There's like, listen, you got to bring me a full album,

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Speaker 1: We'll release it and basically be we are this time.

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Speaker 1: What are some of the lessons you learned from being

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, like the work ethic and then also

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Speaker 5: understanding that getting signed to a label isn't the holy grail.

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Speaker 5: It's like and I think that's why we've even stood

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Speaker 5: people that actually care and have genuinely experienced stuff, and

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Speaker 5: we're here to not only share like what we do

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Speaker 5: here as producers and songwriters helping people make their music,

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Speaker 5: we're also here to like warn them about certain things

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Speaker 5: And which is fake? And what are bots? It's like

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Speaker 5: it's insane. But we've had to grow and evolve with

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Speaker 1: It's true, you do have to evolve. Matt How did

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Speaker 6: So? I met Donnie actually in high school. We went

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Speaker 6: to a private Catholic school. We were about thirteen years old.

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Speaker 6: This was in nineteen ninety nine, and we just had

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Speaker 6: We used to go to malls and just sing acappella

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Speaker 6: to gain fans. Then we would go to concerts and

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Speaker 6: we would steal other people's fans in the audience. One

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Speaker 6: they were managed by Beyonce Knowles dad. Matthew. Yeah, he

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Speaker 6: called us backstage and he started managing us from that

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Speaker 6: day forward. He brought us to Sony. We got a

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Speaker 5: What's so crazy is like when we do interviews or whatever,

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Speaker 5: we usually we always reference in Sync. We're like, because

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Speaker 5: that's what it was. We're like, this is back in

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Speaker 5: the in Sync days. So of course we had our

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Speaker 5: in interviews, which is crazier now. We also we wanted

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Speaker 5: to bring this up quick. Yeah, we both have stories

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Speaker 5: of when we met you.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, what happened man?

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Speaker 6: I actually met both of you about two summers ago

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Speaker 6: in Pete Town.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 6: I was there with my wife and outside of one

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Speaker 5: Then it wasn't nineteen ninety nine. So but yeah, we

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Speaker 5: Have the proper training. I think it happened with Adele.

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Speaker 1: first you think, oh, this is gonna be funny, you know,

436
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 1: but then it kind of just gets even too embarrassing

437
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 1: to watch it, like, oh my god, we should not

438
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 1: have seen this, so so bad. But I mean you

439
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,880
Speaker 1: you were doing things before that, because you also started

440
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 1: modeling as a baby.

441
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I did. I did.

442
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,159
Speaker 1: And we need to talk because I'm telling you. We

443
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 1: were scrolling through your Instagram today and your daughter Tatum, Yeah,

444
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 1: like our daughter's twin likes it. So I'm like, oh

445
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 1: my gosh, that is Violet. But it's so great because

446
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:39,199
Speaker 1: our daughter doesn't have hair yet, so now we can

447
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 1: see what she's gonna look like.

448
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 5: Yes, like, how how old is she?

449
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:45,879
Speaker 1: She'll be two in October.

450
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, so Tatum just turned two in June. The same

451
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 5: thing too. For a long time, it took forever for

452
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,399
Speaker 5: her hair to sprout out, and now it's sprouting in

453
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,639
Speaker 5: and it's curly. She like Tatum in London. That's my

454
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 5: two daughters. They're three and two. They look like exact

455
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 5: opposites people are. People don't think that they're siblings.

456
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:06,360
Speaker 2: Looks like our kids too.

457
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, we both look they don't look like the same ethnicity,

458
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 3: to be honest.

459
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 1: She's like she looks like a Russian doll and and

460
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 1: he's like Argentina. Just like they're the lean opposite and

461
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 1: opposite personalities. Being a dad, a new dad, is it

462
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,160
Speaker 1: hard for you to balance the work family life, because

463
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,199
Speaker 1: I mean what I see on Instagram you are a

464
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 1: very present and fun dad.

465
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, it's tough. It's like even leaving this morning,

466
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,679
Speaker 5: I'm like pulling out of the driveway and they're like

467
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 5: running down and I like stop the car and run

468
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 5: back to give them hugs.

469
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 1: It's like, I know, once they start crying when you leave.

470
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 1: It's the Wark Wars mad. Do you have any kids?

471
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 6: I do, I started a little earlier. I have a

472
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 6: twelve and a thirteen year old boy and girl.

473
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 2: Oh wait, so how's that? How's the teenagers?

474
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 6: I'm aging very quickly. It's hard. Middle school is tough, man.

475
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 6: I remember when I was in middle school too, it

476
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 6: wasn't easy. But man, kids are not nice and kids

477
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 6: are assholes social media, like you can't escape. When we

478
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 6: were in school, whatever happened at school, you go home,

479
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 6: you kind of escape it. But now kids go home

480
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,439
Speaker 6: and they're getting messages on Instagram or social media you

481
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 6: can't escape. Is there's no escape anymore.

482
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 1: It's so true.

483
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 5: I know.

484
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: It excures me to think about what kind of world

485
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 1: they're going to be living in when they are in school, Like,

486
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: what is the next thing like social media that's going

487
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 1: to just give them the contexes?

488
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 3: Ever in ten years time, Lord, yeah, it'll be zero

489
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 3: privacy at all.

490
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 1: No, it's crazy. So now you also audition for American

491
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 1: Idol a couple of times, and I know that process

492
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,719
Speaker 1: because I have so many friends that went through that,

493
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 1: and the most talented people I know, like the most

494
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 1: gorgeous voices I know, never made it past the first round.

495
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: It's like you had to have that luck of like, yeah,

496
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 1: you'll do, you'll do, you'll do, and you didn't make

497
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: it past those first rounds. And I think that's what

498
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 1: made you kind of have a little bad taste your

499
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 1: mouth for the music. Industry. Is that what made you

500
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 1: take a little a break for a while.

501
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was so that was like that was just

502
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 5: coming off a bad string of stuff. It was like

503
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,120
Speaker 5: our group broke up. And then it was then I'm

504
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 5: at the point now where like I took the time

505
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 5: off from college and I'm seeing all my college friends

506
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 5: like either living it up at Upstate or Miami wherever

507
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 5: they went, or they're graduating and they're like starting their

508
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 5: lives now. Yeah, I was just trying to figure out

509
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 5: what to do then. So then it was like American Idol.

510
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 5: I'm like, let me just try out for the show,

511
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 5: like hopefully I get through. Maybe this will spark a

512
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 5: little something. And then when I got cut from that,

513
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 5: that was a moment in my life where I was

514
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 5: like I was working at a warehouse. I didn't even

515
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 5: know what I was doing with my life. It was

516
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 5: like music was the only thing I know. And then

517
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 5: that's that set up me for like just that extreme

518
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 5: fire because then that next like eight months, I was

519
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 5: really just honing in in my room trying to like

520
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 5: write songs and put stuff out. I was building a

521
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 5: little following on MySpace, and then when making the band

522
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 5: came around. That was like, if I didn't have that

523
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 5: fire set from that, I probably wouldn't have even fully

524
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 5: got through the show, because, like I said, it was

525
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 5: so intimidating these people that were there, and it was crazy.

526
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: What songs did you have on your MySpace? I missed MySpace?

527
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 5: Oh man, Tom Tom was in my top eight. I

528
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 5: think he was in everybody's topic.

529
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 6: My first friend, I think everyone's first.

530
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 1: I sold Tom because you know, like the Threads thing

531
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: blew up for a day and he was the first

532
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: person I sold on Threads. He's like, all right, guys,

533
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: are we doing this? It's still the same picture for

534
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 1: my MySpace.

535
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 5: Yea. Even that though, I remember thinking back like that

536
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 5: was one of the things. So when Facebook first came out,

537
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 5: you needed a dot edu email to sign up for it.

538
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 5: And then I had this girlfriend that we broke up,

539
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 5: and then American Idol, and then she was on Facebook

540
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 5: and I couldn't see what she was doing, so I

541
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 5: was using friends facebooks to try to stalk her and

542
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 5: see what she was doing. All that just like lit

543
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 5: that fire in me that I was like, I'm gonna show,

544
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get famous and just rub it in this girl's.

545
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 7: Face motivation, It's kind of always the best motivation. Yeah,

546
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 7: career event Yeah, I glow up revenge, Yeah, on.

547
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: The and making the band. You know, at the end

548
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: of season four, you end up not making the band

549
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 1: because did he wanted to bring you solo. He thought

550
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: that you had what it takes to be you know,

551
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: I'm sure he was thinking like justin Timberlake. You know,

552
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 1: so what did you what did you envision your solo

553
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: career would look like after doing a show like making

554
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 1: the band?

555
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, And then this is where some of the politics

556
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 5: get tough, like when you sign as a new artist,

557
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 5: creative control like goes to the heads of the labels

558
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 5: and especially Diddy. So for me, I was I was

559
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 5: probably more of like doing like neo type of stuff

560
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 5: that I think resonated better with people rather than when

561
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 5: they put me in the studio. I think they were

562
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 5: really trying to pin me as like another justin Timberlake,

563
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 5: And I don't think that reads right to people that

564
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 5: because I mean, as much as we danced in our groups,

565
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 5: I was never like a dancer first. I was that

566
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 5: was always that was more forced than I could make

567
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 5: choreography look good, But it was never that wasn't my

568
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 5: strong point, so that was that was definitely And that's

569
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 5: like what I try to teach people now is like

570
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 5: it gets real when you get signed and that you

571
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 5: you kind of want to have as much leverage as

572
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 5: possible going into your deal, because then if you blow

573
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 5: up off of something that you did, that you believe

574
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 5: in and just works with you, the label is going

575
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 5: to have to continue pushing that you get signed too

576
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 5: quick and you just get signed off your talent or

577
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 5: your look or whatever. It's like they're going to try

578
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 5: to mulge you into what they think is going to work,

579
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 5: and sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

580
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: We have in common opening up for Janet Jackson, which

581
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: for me was just that was one of my top

582
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 1: highlights of my life. We got to do the Velvet

583
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: Rope Tour, so incredible. What was it like for you

584
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 1: to open up.

585
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 5: For pretty It's pretty opposite actually to end up opening

586
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 5: that tour, but somehow lives on in Wikipedia and all

587
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 5: that because it was what.

588
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: You just just go with it. I find that no one,

589
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: no one cares that it was so cool about we're

590
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: in a fact free world, so if you say it

591
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: over and over again, people just want to believe it.

592
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 5: There was a point where I just got so to

593
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 5: the point where I was like, yeah, it was amazing.

594
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: She's so yeah, I got that too, Like I hear

595
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: things over and about me that's just not true, and

596
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: I just now I'm just I go with it. I'm like, Okay,

597
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna try to some.

598
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 5: Of the stuff. Like it's been so long and I've

599
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 5: just become such a regular human being that I don't

600
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 5: remember what actually happened and what didn't happen.

601
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I better probably is like a dream.

602
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what are we working on for the Baccy

603
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: Boys though? The Boys talking with the Enemy? Oh my gosh.

604
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 5: So I'll just throw this out there. As much as

605
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 5: I love both groups, I was definitely more of an

606
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 5: InSync fan, but uh, for them, this was when Kevin

607
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 5: wasn't in the group.

608
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so.

609
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 5: This is like two thousand and eight, and then he.

610
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: Left a little bit because he wanted to do acting.

611
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: I think he was trying to do the acting thing

612
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: for a few years.

613
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 5: But it was awesome. It was like so for me,

614
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 5: it's like I got thrown in to this world as

615
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 5: a solo artist where I was so used to singing

616
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 5: in my groups, so that tour was cool for me

617
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 5: because it was like I was hanging out with the boys,

618
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 5: throwing a football around before the show's like going into

619
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 5: soundcheck and just like that camaraderie feeling. I got a

620
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 5: chance to kind of like have that again, and then

621
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,959
Speaker 5: especially with a group like that, Like it's like I

622
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 5: grew up, I was inspired by you guys, so to

623
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 5: have a chance to do that was super cool.

624
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: It's funny because you know, back in the day, guys

625
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: really didn't admit that they liked and Sync. You know,

626
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: It's like it was sometimes just not cool to say

627
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: that you liked a group like that. But I've noticed

628
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: now that we're older and like, you know, the fans

629
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: are talking just like the guys. For some reason, guys

630
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: really went to our group. So I don't know, what

631
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: is that? Why as a guy, did you like in

632
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: sync over back straight? You know what?

633
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 3: I think it's because because every guy secretly wanted to

634
00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 3: be in a want to be all like exactly like

635
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 3: Sally loving it because they want to be integ I

636
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 3: mean I did, I for sure was I.

637
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: I who would turn that down? Here here's the world

638
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: and here's the world for us.

639
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 5: We're probably the wrong people to ask because what we

640
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 5: love and what we grew up on, but it's like

641
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 5: for us to me that that was the exact dream,

642
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 5: like the the I guess back then it might have

643
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 5: even been VHS tapes, but maybe it was DVDs, but

644
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 5: like the documentaries on you guys, and then seeing the

645
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 5: europe tour and looking out those windows and the thousands

646
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 5: of people, just that sea of the crowd. And then

647
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 5: even like like we were saying, the artist development part

648
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 5: of it, like we getting a chance to peek in

649
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 5: and see a lot of what you guys went through.

650
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,719
Speaker 5: That to me was the dream. That was like what

651
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 5: I envisioned was that was the dream, like going through

652
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 5: that process, getting molded and shaped and getting your talents

653
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 5: to the best of their abilities, and then getting this

654
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,719
Speaker 5: hit song, Like going into the studio and working on

655
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 5: a bunch of songs until you know you found the hit,

656
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 5: and then that hit song and then you have radio

657
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 5: stations playing at NonStop back then with the the VMAs

658
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 5: and everything. So that to me is one of the

659
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 5: most iconic moments in pop culture history that I still

660
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 5: reference and I still use to motivate a lot of

661
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 5: the artists that we coach today. I use three different things.

662
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 5: I use Whitney's National Anthem. I think at the super Bowl,

663
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 5: I use Beyonce's Super Bowl halftime show, and then I

664
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 5: use in syncs VMA's two thousands. That performance ahead that's

665
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 5: just like it was so ahead of its time. And

666
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 5: then like you're dancing and really singing live and they

667
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 5: had your mic on too loud for that split second

668
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 5: and then they lower it and it's like just that

669
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 5: those moments to me, that's iconic because it shows like

670
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 5: you guys were really singing and really moving and running

671
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 5: and dancing and like it's insane. That's like that to me,

672
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 5: that's what I use to show people like this is

673
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 5: the level you need to aspire to get to.

674
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's great, and it's really about your team.

675
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,479
Speaker 1: I mean, it's really linking up with those those people

676
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,959
Speaker 1: that can make you who you're supposed to be and

677
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,959
Speaker 1: that you know, for us, Wade Robson is one who

678
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: created that amazing performance. You know, if it was just

679
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: put up to us five guys, it wouldn't have looked

680
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: like that. So you know, the right vocal coach the

681
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: right choreographer, the right manager. The team is what really

682
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: takes your talent to the next level. Were you could

683
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: you all easily find that group of people for your career, Like,

684
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: did you have that person you could always like create

685
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: and get with me that Okay, this is what we're doing.

686
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 5: Tough we were, we were doing a lot of it ourselves.

687
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, and five boys trying to do it themselves. It's

688
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 6: a nightmare.

689
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, five different personality. It's hard to always say.

690
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: It's like wrangling cats. It's a really reunion in twenty

691
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: three years.

692
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's insane.

693
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 6: That actually was like the downfall of us. We never

694
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 6: had that like real team. None of our families came

695
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 6: from music.

696
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: You know.

697
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 6: We got involved with Matthew Knowles. I don't know if

698
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 6: that was the greatest thing for us. So yeah, that's

699
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 6: what I mean, that's what we do now in our studio.

700
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 6: We put together teams for people.

701
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: You know, that's great and especially in the world where

702
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: everyone gets so taken advantage of right now, especially an artists,

703
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: it's it's like, how how have we not learned our lesson? Guys?

704
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: Like I even did a documentary on how Lou Proman

705
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: screwed us all, but like people still will sign that

706
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 1: contract at sixteen years old.

707
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 3: Well, when it's presented to you, you know, it's like,

708
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 3: well it's this or nothing. So most of the time

709
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 3: like you're just gonna take whatever.

710
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: And everyone thinks, oh, first contract's bad. I can renegotiate.

711
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: You can't renegotiate.

712
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's where that's where I was at. Actually I was.

713
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 5: We signed our deals just to audition for the show.

714
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 5: So that's like almost even worse off. And you win

715
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 5: and you basically sit with a lawyer that shows you

716
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,720
Speaker 5: what you signed. There's no room for negotiation or anything.

717
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 5: It's just like, so here it is. This is what

718
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 5: it is. And for years I was stuck in that contract.

719
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 5: I didn't get out of that until like twenty thirteen,

720
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 5: and then twenty ten I had def jam flew me out.

721
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 5: They were trying to like get me out of my contract.

722
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 5: They flew me down to Atlanta, they they put me up.

723
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 5: I worked with producers. I made like eight or nine songs,

724
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 5: and then I got back and it just took too

725
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 5: long to get out of the deal. So it's tough.

726
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 5: You gotta really be careful what you signed.

727
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: You do. Who was the most exciting person that you've

728
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: met through this business?

729
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 5: Oh? Actually, you never read a story, how est a

730
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 5: story of how I met you?

731
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

732
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 5: Yet of that?

733
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 1: So the most exciting person that was me? Okay story.

734
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 5: This was justin Timberlake was having a grand opening for

735
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 5: the restaurant Southern Hospitality. I think it was called There's

736
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 5: a Barbecue Place in the City. And this was when

737
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 5: I was just starting my making the band stuff, and

738
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,919
Speaker 5: the first couple of shows had so the PR team

739
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 5: had any going and stuff like this, so I ended

740
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 5: up going. I hung out with you guys. We were

741
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 5: playing beer pong in like the back downstairs area and

742
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 5: me and you were on the same team. Actually played, Yeah,

743
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 5: but JT was knocking our shots out when we didn't

744
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 5: bounce it, so he was playing a little.

745
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 1: Of course, of course we.

746
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 5: Would have won.

747
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, if we would have done flip cup, I

748
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: really would have kicked his ass. All right, So that's

749
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: that's my game. That's my game. He's still going to

750
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think correct. No, maybe it's not open, No,

751
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: never mind, it closed, never mind. It was really good.

752
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: It was good so other food. While it lasted, I

753
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: had a lot of his grandmother's recipes in there. It's

754
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 1: really cute. It's really cool when you've been on State.

755
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: You know, the big thing right now is uh, assholes

756
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 1: throwing things an artists on stage and then of course

757
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: Miranda Lambert scolding someone taking a selfie. So have you

758
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: ever had a moment on stage where you've been hit?

759
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: And what do you think about this new trend of artists

760
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: trying to be nailed by things?

761
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's ridiculous. I saw got nailed with like

762
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 5: a thirty six g bra or something.

763
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: Well, at least that wouldn't hurt as much as a

764
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: freaking beer bottle.

765
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 5: I do remember because a lot of I mean, the

766
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 5: level that we got to on the show was never

767
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 5: really that big. We did a couple like five thousand

768
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 5: seat places. Maybe that was the biggest we we really

769
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 5: got to. But a lot of our bread and butter

770
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 5: was doing the after club performances after and of course

771
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 5: those will get rowdy everybody's drinking, So that used to

772
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 5: happen to us very frequently, with like beer bottles or

773
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 5: water bottles or anything like that. It was it was insane.

774
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember, it only happened to us in Europe

775
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: when we started over, because we lived in Germany the

776
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: first couple of years. And yeah, that we'd get a

777
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: lot of beer bottles thrown at us because we do

778
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: those festivals right where those aren't your fans and it's

779
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: you know, and some festivals go to like three in

780
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: the morning, and you'd go on at three and just

781
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: everyone's wasted and you're just dodging beer bottles as you're

782
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: dancing on stage. I miss the days when they just

783
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: would throw plushies on stage. It's just soft teddy bears

784
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: whatever that. Yeah, that's up, all right. We have a

785
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: frosted tip we'd like to get from you guys. So

786
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: you're someone who has heard no from this industry a

787
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: couple of times before, and you know, before you got

788
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 1: your big break. What's the advice you can give people

789
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: who keep hearing no over and over and over again

790
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 1: and whatever their career path is, what makes you keep going?

791
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's it's definitely like what you do

792
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 5: with that no. Like I said, there was I could

793
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 5: have like turned away after the whole American Idol situation

794
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 5: and even after our group. I can't even tell you

795
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 5: like the Matthew Knowles is just one of a hundred

796
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 5: things that happened with our group and the entertainment business specifically.

797
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 5: It's like whenever you're pouring your heart into something, it's

798
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 5: very easy to get let down that much harder and

799
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 5: get your heartbroken over it because here you are. And

800
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 5: that's why people probably sign those crazy deals, because it's

801
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 5: like this is all you want, This is going to

802
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 5: change your parents' life, or this is like you've dreamt

803
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 5: about this since you were a little kid, or it

804
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 5: didn't happen for my parents, so now I'm going to

805
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 5: make it happen like whatever happened with our groups, we

806
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 5: had and people take advantage of that. So it's just

807
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 5: about being very careful and just continuing to always make

808
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 5: it about why you first started doing it, and just

809
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 5: when you're writing your music, don't try to conform to

810
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 5: what people are doing now. If Olivia Rodrigo put hop

811
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 5: punk into the music world now and everybody's trying to

812
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 5: now make stuff pop punk again, don't let that change

813
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 5: what you were doing. Still continue to be you and

814
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 5: then take every single note and just use it as fuel,

815
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 5: use it as motivation, and get to your next no

816
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 5: the more knows you get to, the closer you getting

817
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 5: too that. Yes, yeah, it.

818
00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: Does make you stronger, but it still hurts. It's the business.

819
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: We have some fan questions for y'all. So this is

820
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: from Ti Ryan. Go ahead, okay, fan questions.

821
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 3: We have tif Ran What is your favorite memory touring

822
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 3: with Day twenty six and Danny the game?

823
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 5: Oh wow, yeah, so I'm yeah from what I can remember,

824
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 5: so I do remember. There was the so Danny Kane

825
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 5: was back then similar to they had the presence of

826
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 5: like an in sync where five of them that like

827
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 5: Powerhouse and like us coming into the show. They were

828
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 5: famous already and we were like, I was a fan

829
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 5: of them. So when we did our tour together, it

830
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 5: was so much fun. This was like finally my chance.

831
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 5: The tour bus, the bunk beds, the stop in every

832
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 5: state and then running into hotels, leaving at four am

833
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 5: for the radio shows, and we were all doing that together.

834
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 5: We got super close. And then the l A show

835
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 5: ended our tour and I got pulled out as a

836
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 5: surprise and got a lap dance on stage from all

837
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 5: five members of Danny Kane.

838
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: And it was that's nice. We see Aubrey like every

839
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 1: once in a while, every once.

840
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 5: In a while, so I stay in touch with her.

841
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 5: Actually everybody, I probably talked to her most frequently.

842
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: No, she's she's great. Uh she was. Some just came

843
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: out with her right with Donald Trump Junior, like something

844
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: like she's relationship. She's been speaking about it again because

845
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: they dated for a day or so.

846
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 2: No more than I did remember years ago.

847
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: I remember her telling us that, But I was like,

848
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: I feel like it's comprehending that she was really talking.

849
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 2: When I was finally talking about it. Podcasts are all

850
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 2: the dirty.

851
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 5: Aubrey's story is when they first took me day twenty

852
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 5: six and put us with Dannady Kane that we were

853
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 5: now filming this making the band was kind of turning

854
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 5: into the real world, and we were all moving into

855
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 5: a house together. We sat behind cameras and we were like,

856
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 5: let's fake a relationship. Let's make this like even crazier,

857
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 5: and then we actually kind of did get close and

858
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 5: then just things. What happened was they flew us off

859
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 5: to Miami. We were living in Miami, we were working

860
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 5: with different producers and one of the producers' names was Donnie,

861
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 5: and Aubrey messed around with this Donnie, and then the

862
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 5: word was getting around and then the cameras spun this

863
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 5: that Aubrey and Donnie d last night, and then it

864
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 5: just turned into this big thing and it's good.

865
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:58,439
Speaker 1: Is good for usure? Yeah, there's another fan question from

866
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,240
Speaker 1: Tracy Wheley twenty four.

867
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 2: Or do you do people ever refer to this question?

868
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 2: Do people ever refer to you as Doctor Love?

869
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:16,919
Speaker 5: Like? Yes, So, I mean it happens. It happens very

870
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 5: infrequently now, So it's like I'm at a random place

871
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 5: and it'll happen. Like I'm sitting at Applebee's with my

872
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 5: wife and kids, and it's like the waitress comes up

873
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 5: and she's like, you doctor Love, so.

874
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: You don't introduce your I was like, I'm Donnie, but

875
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 1: you can call me doctor Love.

876
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 5: I definitely used to stay it into that role a little,

877
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 5: uh too. Seriously back in the day.

878
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is from Irish the Pen. Do you have

879
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 1: any unreleased songs from Just a Rolling Stone you think

880
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 1: could have potentially been a hit?

881
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 5: So, I mean, yeah, that was that was a that

882
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 5: was a huge problem. So I know, so Irish the

883
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 5: Pen he was on a show back in the day too.

884
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 5: I follow him on social media. He's a cool dude.

885
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 5: What's up. But we we had a whole album made

886
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 5: that so I vibed really well with this producer named seven.

887
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 5: He was big. He did a lot of Ashanti stuff

888
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 5: in the two thousands and then me and him, he

889
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 5: just I give him the credit of what you were saying,

890
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 5: like what Wade Robson kind of did for you guys

891
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 5: live with your tour and stuff. He's the guy that

892
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 5: kind of helped me find that just like person that

893
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 5: I was becoming that brand, the sound changing my tone.

894
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 5: Like back then here I was going through vocal coaches

895
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 5: and like singing trying to sing perfectly. He was the

896
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 5: guy that came in and he was like, no, we

897
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 5: got to rough that up. And he's he just like

898
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 5: took my whole studio experience to another level where it

899
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 5: was like so he came from like Prince's camp and

900
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 5: he would have doves in the room and he would

901
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 5: have a five machine going and we would have candles

902
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 5: and burn sage and like he just.

903
00:44:55,520 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: Like said, ura do this for a podcast. Yeah, this

904
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: is pretty great, some great ideas there.

905
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 5: So still to this day that's like we do it

906
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 5: when we get into our real creative sessions. That's what

907
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 5: we do in here, and he's like, he kind of

908
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 5: gave us that whole like tone and mood just to

909
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 5: create an experience in an environment that you get into

910
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 5: and you just like like disconnect from reality.

911
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: Nice. So who should we be looking forward to? Do you?

912
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 1: Do you know what new artists are about to come out?

913
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: Anyone you're working with right now that you need to

914
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 1: let us know about.

915
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, we we have a few. So there's

916
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 5: one I definitely want to mention, especially to the followers

917
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 5: of your podcast, that I feel like would love this dude, Douggy. Yeah,

918
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 5: so if you follow at it, Dougie, doug Right, this

919
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 5: kid is extremely talented and he's he's just he has

920
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 5: the whole entire package. So when you guys, when you

921
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 5: guys check them out and everybody that's on here file

922
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 5: and you'll see what I'm talking about. He could dance,

923
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 5: he could sing, he has the look. We also have

924
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 5: an artist that we've been kind of taken under our

925
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 5: wing that we worked with for a long time. She

926
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 5: goes by Sammy sv MMI you can find her.

927
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: Like a little Jake. Actually, yeah, I love that.

928
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 5: Yes, I know what happens here. It's like, we work

929
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 5: with a lot of extremely talented people and it's like

930
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 5: exactly what you said. You hear these people with these

931
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 5: golden voices, and it's like, how did they get cut

932
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 5: from Round one of American Idol where they could probably

933
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 5: out sing everybody that made it onto the show. In

934
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 5: the twelve years we've had this studio, it's like there's

935
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 5: been a couple of people that I've been like, this

936
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 5: person is definitely gonna make it, but they just never

937
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 5: got that big break, or they gave up too soon.

938
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I can pick her up, especially these days.

939
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: You know, when I grew up, you know, in the

940
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: eighties and nineties, there were no competition shows, there were

941
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: no making the bands. There wasn't any kind of thing

942
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: you could watch on TV and be like, ooh, I

943
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: could do that. Well, then when the American Idols and

944
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: making the band started, so all these kids that are born,

945
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: you know, at two years old, and they're watching these shows,

946
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: they start dreaming of it right then. So they got

947
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: such they got more of a head start than all

948
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: of us did. They started training since they were so young.

949
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: So now the prop of talent out there is insane.

950
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: I mean, look at the voice, all those incredible, incredible

951
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: talented people and you don't even know one of their names,

952
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: Like the best singers in the world, and not one

953
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: of them has really hit right there? How much talent.

954
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's so oversaturated. I mean, that's even everything in general.

955
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 5: It's like social media, YouTube, these TV shows. We warn

956
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 5: a lot of artists about that getting onto these shows.

957
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 5: That's still not the holy grail. It's like the shows

958
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 5: are almost more about the judges now and their stories

959
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 5: and the stuff that's happening between them, and then they

960
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 5: put music out after the season ends, and their albums

961
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 5: and single releases do very good, and then the people

962
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 5: on the shows get forgotten about. They're afraid to do anything.

963
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 5: That's one of the big pieces of advice we give

964
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 5: to people was like, you're signing these crazy contracts, non disclosures.

965
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 5: They tell you don't post on social media. We're like,

966
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 5: just do it. You get this fifteen minutes of fame

967
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 5: that people are looking for your account while your one

968
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 5: or two episodes aired.

969
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 2: We do.

970
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 5: We get people ready, we like pre film content and

971
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 5: tell them like, don't be afraid, don't let the contracts

972
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 5: scare you into wasting your chance to capitalize on the

973
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 5: people coming to see your page.

974
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like I always say, you know, it's

975
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: when that opportunity, you know, the success is what's the

976
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: calculation of success. It's opportunity plus us. It's one of

977
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 1: those things, one of those success we're so good, we're

978
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: so good at giving great advice on the show preparation.

979
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 1: It's opportunity able to success. So yeah, you got to

980
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: take advantage of that. All right, Matt and Johnnie, I

981
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: need to hear what y'all are watching right now. We

982
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: like to give our listeners some good recommendations of what

983
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: we're binging, what movies we're seeing. So what are we

984
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: what are we watching? Question? That's a good question.

985
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 2: Any TV shows?

986
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 5: So a ton of Doc mcstuffians, Spidey and his amazing friends.

987
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: Are y'all into Blue?

988
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 5: Yet? Blue been a little tough to get into any

989
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 5: shows for me right now? With the babies, it's just

990
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:36,919
Speaker 5: been like baby Land.

991
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: What about you, Matt? With teenagers? Do you get to

992
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: watch The Bachelor a little bit? Maybe?

993
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 6: Like Outer Banks?

994
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: I think that was? I love Outer Banks. I know

995
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: I saw the first season, loved it, and then I

996
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: just found out a couple of weeks ago. There's now

997
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: five seasons and I've been listed all pretty cool, pretty cool. Well,

998
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: we had them on. We had them on my old

999
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: radio show, first premiere it first came out, and man,

1000
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: those those fans are crazy guys. Back on they were great.

1001
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: All right, guys, Well this has been awesome getting to

1002
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: know you. Guys. We definitely want to stay in touch

1003
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: with you, So tell everyone how everyone can stay in

1004
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: touch with you on social media.

1005
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 5: Yes, you could follow our studio account. It's at Loft

1006
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 5: Sound Studio. It's l Oft probably see it all behind

1007
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 5: us here, and then my account's at Donnie Klang. My

1008
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,760
Speaker 5: TikTok pretty much just started blowing up. After our group

1009
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 5: got back together. We posted we so our group moved

1010
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 5: all over the country. One guys in Arizona and one

1011
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,919
Speaker 5: guys in Maryland. We finally got together for the first

1012
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 5: time in fifteen years. We posted a singing clip and

1013
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 5: it got like over a millillion overnight.

1014
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: Wait, wait, so you were burying the lead. So the

1015
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: band's back together, what else? Or so, what's happening after this?

1016
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 6: Now? While everybody's back, we started making some originals again.

1017
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: Really nice.

1018
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 5: It's very hard with you know, adult life and kids,

1019
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 5: and especially the fact that that half of everybody is

1020
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 5: living out of state.

1021
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's hard, you know. You know, I'm friends with

1022
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 1: the Otown guys and Backstreet Boys, and you know what,

1023
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: they just make it work, and especially with Otown because

1024
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 1: they are just in every city. Some have little kids.

1025
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: But you know, it's just all about communication and saying, Okay,

1026
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: look guys, like obviously being dad is number one, but

1027
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: let's figure out how like this is the amount of

1028
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 1: time I need off, this is what I can do.

1029
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: Just so as long as everyone's on the same page.

1030
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 5: We sang, we sang all or nothing down, We just

1031
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 5: sang of course quick and the video we just kept

1032
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 5: refreshing it. It was like one hundred thousand, two hundred thousand.

1033
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 5: We were like, that was great day for the first time.

1034
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 5: We get back together in fifteen years. And the first

1035
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 5: thing we post and.

1036
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: Give the people what they want, they'll.

1037
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 5: Tell you what about you? Yeah?

1038
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: What about you?

1039
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 2: Guys?

1040
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 6: What about a reunion?

1041
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 2: You guys have to get back together now.

1042
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: Well we'll work on that. We'll work on that. So guys,

1043
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. Les want to

1044
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: stay in touch now we're going to follow you on

1045
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 1: our tiktop helps blow your st up because we give

1046
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: you know, we give people the frosted tips.

1047
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the frost tips.

1048
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: Fro the frosted tips.

1049
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 2: It used to be the dirty pop bump upgrade.

1050
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we've I mean we started doing leap up.

1051
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 1: I mean, prove me wrong, prove me wrong.

1052
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 5: I can't tell you how long we both had frosted tips.

1053
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 5: I think you still have frost tips, right.

1054
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 3: Right.

1055
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: I'm just going to like purple now, so this will

1056
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: eventually purple tips.

1057
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1058
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: All right, guys, So good to meet you, meet you again,

1059
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 1: and uh, we'll talk to you again very soon. Congratulations

1060
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:39,240
Speaker 1: on everything.

1061
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, thanks, guys, have a good one.

1062
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: What lovely guys. I like getting to know people too.

1063
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: This is what I love about the show. Most of

1064
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: the people we've had on already have known and it's smart,

1065
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: you know. It's like I'm asking the questions that I

1066
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: already know you know the answer. With interviews like this

1067
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: where I don't really know anything about them, it's just

1068
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 1: so it's so interesting to me because I don't know

1069
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: what's happened.

1070
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 3: I think it's better interviews in a lot of the ways,

1071
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,760
Speaker 3: because like you're really actively listening to the answers. Before,

1072
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 3: when you know the answers, you're not half listening because

1073
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 3: you've heard the story so many times.

1074
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 2: Now you're actually like hanging on to everywhere.

1075
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, really good guys. I'll be following them and

1076
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: now following them on TikTok.

1077
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 2: The band's back together, getting the band back together.

1078
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 1: Most they would have done that after frosted Tips, because

1079
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: then we could have claimed that we got two groups

1080
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: back together. I know, yeah, because that's what we're doing the

1081
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 1: awards worker you are, yeah, yeah, getting the bands back together.

1082
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 5: Guy.

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Speaker 1: Amen, All right, guys, we are off to play group

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Speaker 1: right now. So our kids, yeah, they're in this like

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Speaker 1: summer camp they call it, but it's an hour out

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00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: of basically a playground. They do it twice a week

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Speaker 1: and it's so funny because our kids, so we go,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be our preschool and uh and it's

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Speaker 1: just it's the most incredible little play I mean, I

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Speaker 1: want to live in this playground.

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Speaker 2: You too.

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Speaker 1: But you know, they sit in circles and read books

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Speaker 1: and they sing songs. They do these little you know,

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Speaker 1: little activities. Except our kids, Oh yeah, ours are the

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Speaker 1: only ones that will not send a circle. And our

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Speaker 1: kids don't even play with each other violence in the

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Speaker 1: treehouse over here, and he's pushing buttons over here, and

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00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: he's pouring water on things, just doing his own little

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Speaker 1: thing all by himself, like total loaners as everyone's being

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Speaker 1: perfect and little sitting in their parents' lap. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: we have very independent children. They are very uh.

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Speaker 2: Going to do it.

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Speaker 1: But this is second week, so I'm excited to let

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Speaker 1: them go have fun. And they're meeting all these little friends.

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Speaker 2: I'm having the best time there too.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's a good time.

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Speaker 2: I'm selviously going for myself.

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Speaker 1: We have to we need to bring a backup of

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Speaker 1: clothes because I didn't know that there would be water, yea,

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Speaker 1: And they to go to the water and dump it

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Speaker 1: on each other's heads.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Alexander just takes the water and just pards

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Speaker 2: it on himself like like that's an active.

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Speaker 1: Oh we've got to tell our big milestone, all right. So,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, we should have discussed this. We are

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Speaker 1: now getting into the potty training, which I didn't think

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Speaker 1: we would get into so early, but they started, you know,

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Speaker 1: hadn't you know? Looking at their being like.

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Speaker 2: Oh Pepe. Maybe they're saying people aware now.

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Speaker 1: Uh so Alexander sat on his little toilet twice twice

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Speaker 1: now and did a pooh. We have it pooh, folks,

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Speaker 1: and we have it on and we have a nice

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Speaker 1: photo which we're not going to going to share it

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Speaker 1: because he will kill us in the future.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's not. Let's not show our children's poop.

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Speaker 1: No no, but we're very proud of it. Could have

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Speaker 1: been an accident, but it was it.

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Speaker 3: It happened twice we did, and then I made him

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Speaker 3: sit on the toilet another time. And I can see

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Speaker 3: him try to make you squeeze in and a little

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Speaker 3: too came out instead.

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Speaker 1: Well you we have to teach him don't squeezeoids or

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Speaker 1: is blue?

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Speaker 2: He says, A fluffy A fluffee.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, that's all the show we have for you.

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