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Speaker 3: Couple, all right, Rob G. Joe Burrow's been through a

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Speaker 3: lot in his NFL career. He got hurt his first year,

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Speaker 3: came back his second year, took the Bengals to the

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl somehow, some way, and every year it seems

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Speaker 3: like he's banged up or has to miss some games

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Speaker 3: or something's happening with him. And he had some kind

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Speaker 3: of cryptic comments that people are reading.

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Speaker 4: Into guys worse than that.

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Speaker 5: Joe Burrow has been heard basically every season since twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 5: Back in our lashed they broke a bone in his

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Speaker 5: thrown at twenty seventeen torn rib cardialgellis you in twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty torn aclcl twenty twenty within the Bengals, So that

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Speaker 5: was in the same season, like same calendar year. Got

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Speaker 5: heard at LSU got heard again with the Bengals twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty one, dislocates his pinky twenty twenty two ruption appending

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Speaker 5: torn wrist ligament twenty twenty five, turf toe, which is

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Speaker 5: wearing a metal plate in his gleat right now. Even still,

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Speaker 5: he came back early from the injury, beats Baltimore. In

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Speaker 5: his first game back, goes toe to toe with Josh Allen,

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Speaker 5: comes up short. Effectively They're not totally out of it,

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Speaker 5: but effectively ending any chance they had of making the postseason.

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Speaker 5: And yesterday when he met with the media, he looked despondent.

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Speaker 5: He sounded desponding. You don't believe me. Take a listen.

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Speaker 6: I want to keep doing this. I have to have

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Speaker 6: fun doing it. You know, I've been through a lot,

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Speaker 6: and if it's not fun, then what am I doing

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Speaker 6: it for. I'm not sure. I'm not sure there is

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Speaker 6: a singular moment or of time. It's just a reflection,

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Speaker 6: reflection on a lot of things that I've done and

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Speaker 6: been through in my career. I think I've been through

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Speaker 6: more than most and it's certainly not easy on the

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Speaker 6: doing it again.

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Speaker 3: Uh, Joe Burrow, this is a public service announcement to you.

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Speaker 3: Is this odd at twenty nine years old? This isn't

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Speaker 3: a reflection. You don't sound like you want to play football,

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Speaker 4: Toll on you. I got a message for you.

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Speaker 3: Retire, Joe Burrow. Retire. It's okay for real. You got

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Speaker 3: your whole life ahead of you. Whenever you start talking

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Speaker 3: feeling that downtrodden, that beat up and not excited about

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Speaker 3: playing football. Seriously, I respect Andrew Luck, he said no.

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Speaker 4: Know football players who don't even like playing football.

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Speaker 3: But they do it to make money. Is the biggest

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Speaker 3: dirty secret in the sports. They make a lot of money.

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Speaker 3: I'm six foot eight, I'm three hundred and fifty pound.

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Speaker 3: I can't too there's no other job I'm gonna get

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Speaker 3: even fit into a cubicle. But the idea that once

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Speaker 3: you start talking about you're not having fun if you're

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Speaker 3: having fun as a professional athlete, that's a red flag.

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Speaker 3: That's two red flags. If this was the seventies, that

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Speaker 4: It just means that you should really reconsider where you

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Speaker 4: because it's scary when you go out there and your

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Speaker 3: And it sounds like he's taking a beating and it

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Speaker 3: or whatever, Right, Sam, I mean, uh, I'm not thinking

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry I said Aaronda.

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Speaker 4: I respect. He won a super Bowl, he got paid.

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Speaker 3: He's like, I'm good, thank you. He had years ago.

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Speaker 3: He looks great now, he's happy with his family. I'm good.

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Speaker 3: You can't tell me he wasn't a great quarterback and

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Speaker 4: They couldn't get to the they couldn't win.

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Speaker 3: So he accomplished something. He didn't win a championship. But

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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow retire. So you touched on a couple of things.

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Speaker 1: The first thing that jumped out to me when he

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Speaker 1: specifically with the brain, that's the mental part. That's the

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Speaker 1: mental part that a lot of the fans don't ever

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Speaker 4: Like, man, come to my team, come to my team.

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Speaker 4: You're in great shake. It's the mentals.

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Speaker 1: It's the do I want to put up with going

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Speaker 1: kids say, Daddy, why can't you ever drop me off

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Speaker 1: of school? It's all of these things that come in

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Speaker 1: calling you, and you know the challenges with having contracts

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Speaker 4: All of that ways on you.

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Speaker 1: And when you're Joe Burrow and you've been dealing with

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Speaker 1: that stuff weighs on you, especially when you're just sitting

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Speaker 1: there and you're injured and you can't be at your best.

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Speaker 1: So I absolutely get can understand what Joe Burrow's going through.

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Speaker 1: I would advise him to take the rest of this

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Speaker 1: season off. You're nicked up, you're banged up, you're playing

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Speaker 1: own you know, personal life. Demand just had a birthday,

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Speaker 1: yesterday's twenty nine. Reflect with your family, reflect on your

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Speaker 1: come back and talk to me. If I'm the president

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Speaker 1: time away. You need to get away for a little

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Speaker 1: bit and reflect. But yeah, man, a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: of what these pro athletes go through. It ain't just

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Speaker 1: the physical. It ain't just the skills they got that.

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Speaker 1: I look at Barry Sanders, you know this, You were there.

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Speaker 1: Barry Sanders can still have played another two three years,

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Speaker 1: broken records. He just had enough. Megatron had another two

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Speaker 1: or three years. Just had enough. And they's a common

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Speaker 1: denominator between the three guys, Joe Burrow, Megatron and Barry.

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Speaker 1: They were in bad organizations. There are teams that weren't

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Speaker 4: The Cincinnati Bengals better. Now they're not the Lions bad.

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Speaker 3: But what I mean is, I'll just I'll push back

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Speaker 3: just can't. I can't equate Barry Sanders being with the

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Speaker 3: beat him twice, beat the Chiefs in their heyday, and.

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Speaker 1: That what I'm saying is that was the anomaly. Them

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Speaker 1: But again, you mentioned Andrew Luck. Andrew Luck did it

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Speaker 4: The general call him, but but it sounds like Andrew

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Speaker 1: Everybody don't want to be Tom Brady playing in forty

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Speaker 1: five like that ain't. No, nobody ain't built for that.

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Speaker 3: And you don't want your brain scrambled and all the

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Speaker 3: Was it a schefter had the number? Like he's played

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, right, He said it during

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Speaker 5: to say because it was a wild Statye. Joe Burrow

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Speaker 5: has played seventy three career games. He's been sacked two

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Speaker 4: Okay, and we were saying he was running for his

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Speaker 4: life a lot. YEP.

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Speaker 1: I remember saying heang if Andrew Lucker get more protection,

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Speaker 1: he would do more. So, Yeah, all that weighs on

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Speaker 1: you figure to being literally all that three hundred pound

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Speaker 5: And the way Joe Burrow plays, he's not the kind

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Speaker 5: of guy who's like payon man, I'm gonna fall down

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Speaker 5: in our game. No, he gonna get it goes for

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Speaker 5: every single yard. He holds it as long as possible

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Speaker 5: So his style of play lends itself to taking shots

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Speaker 1: Troy Aikman, Yeah, Troy, and Troy Acman was trying to

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Speaker 1: taking some licks, So it wouldn't surprise me. I don't

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Speaker 1: think he's gonna retire. I definitely think he's gonna take

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Speaker 1: a little so bad I think he should retire. I

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Speaker 1: hear you once you start talking about that and question it.

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Speaker 3: When when somebody said they're not having fun a twenty

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Speaker 3: nine year old making a gazillion dollars playing a sport,

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Speaker 3: right seriously, Like like a lot of people gotta go

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Speaker 3: enough money to pay their bills. That ain't fun. You

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Speaker 3: tell them how playing football ain't fun. That tells me

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Speaker 3: all I need to know.

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Speaker 1: You know, he you talking about Luca is the oldest

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Speaker 1: twenty five twenty Yeah, Joe Burrow is twenty nine. Joe

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Speaker 7: Subscribe, hit that thumbs up icon and comment away, man,

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Speaker 7: we had another thunder blowout last night. They are now

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Speaker 1: Some people think they might actually beat him. I'm inclined

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Speaker 4: This is absolutely great.

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Speaker 1: If you're a high school basketball coach, this is the

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Speaker 1: want you to watch this team. They're committed, they're all

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Speaker 1: They don't care who gets the start. You know, this

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Speaker 1: this isn't not great.

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Speaker 1: I've been covering this league since I feel like you

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Speaker 1: They're winning this thing, right, because even in the Jordan years,

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Speaker 1: this looks great. He's the MVP. This could be something,

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Speaker 1: all right, Maybe the Utah Jazz gets some revenge this year.

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Speaker 1: form up with with with Wimby, because this is this

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Speaker 1: is not good for business. It's great for them, it's

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Speaker 1: great for Sam Presty, is great for the Thunder, but

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Speaker 1: this is bad for basketball and the entertainment since it's

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Speaker 1: They're blowing everybody out twenty thirty forty points and I've

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Speaker 1: something that makes it compelling. The Thunders are the best

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Speaker 1: it's a compliment in that they're such a great team.

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Speaker 1: But you need some entertainment value in Adam Silver. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, like I say, he's gonna to pull something off,

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Speaker 1: whisper to somebody or y'all need you all to make

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Speaker 1: ain't rob I've never seen this where it's such a

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Speaker 1: he want to say it, but like a bad injury

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Speaker 4: For the season.

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Speaker 1: Other than that, they can lose another star and still

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Speaker 1: be okay. So this is just I've never been here where.

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Speaker 4: We know who's winning.

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Speaker 3: I disagree there, there's a long way to go. Denver

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Speaker 3: took them the seven games last year. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 3: sit here and go I don't care what the record is.

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Speaker 3: You could have a bad week in the NBA, or

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Speaker 3: have a misshot or some situation. We saw the Pacers

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Speaker 3: last year down by fourteen points, were a minute two

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Speaker 3: minutes to was it like thirteen forty to go through?

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Speaker 3: win that game and change everything. So I'm not there

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Speaker 3: that I'm not crowning them the champs in early December.

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Speaker 3: But I will say this, the OKC Thunder are the

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Speaker 3: worst basketball team for the NBA. They are worse than

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Speaker 3: even the Halem Globetrotters. They were a bad version of

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Speaker 3: the Halem Globe Trotters. You know, they used to win

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Speaker 3: all the time. They always beat the Generals, Washington Generals.

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Speaker 3: The difference is we knew the routine, we knew the script.

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Speaker 3: They were supposed to win. OKC does absolutely zero for

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Speaker 3: the NBA because there's no competition. It ain't about beefs

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Speaker 3: and all that about competition. Who's watching a game that's

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Speaker 3: NBA doesn't get any juice from them winning and it's

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Speaker 3: at the buzzer. These games are done at half, so

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Speaker 3: people are looking for Golden Girls reruns, so that doesn't work.

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Speaker 4: They're a small market to begin with. There's nothing here

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Speaker 3: It's as bad as it gets for the NBA and

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Speaker 3: Let me give you a history lesson the.

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Speaker 4: a row in the fifties and sixties and all that.

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Speaker 3: Guess who's attendance dipped during that run. Go look at

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Speaker 3: the sixties sixty one season, their tickets. You thought they

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Speaker 3: had won two in a row back to back, and

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Speaker 3: they were going for their third title, and en route

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Speaker 4: People stopped going, didn't buy tickets. I saw it, I

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Speaker 4: already saw them win.

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Speaker 3: How about the Atlanta Braves of the nineties won fourteen

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Speaker 3: straight National League East titles, Kelvin, people stopped going to

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Speaker 4: I saw it already I've been there. It can happen.

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Speaker 3: Winning all the time with no competition, no press, pushback

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Speaker 3: is the worst thing you could have. Add to that

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Speaker 3: a small market, Add to that a player people are

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Speaker 3: indifferent about. No one is like, oh I can't stand

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Speaker 4: It's indifferent.

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Speaker 3: So OKC Thunder are the worst basketball team for the NBA.

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Speaker 3: They get nothing from this, no juice. I don't know

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Speaker 3: who's watching people in Oka se Okay, ain't nobody. Ain't

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Speaker 3: no basketball fans watching no forty nine point blowoff.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry they The Thunder is the perfect name because

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Speaker 1: it's like a rain cloud on the NBA. It's a

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Speaker 1: mean it's in the most complimentary way. They played the

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Speaker 1: if I play five minutes or twenty five tonight, don't

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Speaker 1: care who got the shot. Everybody's playing defense, taking charges,

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Speaker 1: We got a number two in JAD. Matter of fact,

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Speaker 1: I have a CJDU for weeks. We'll be okay.

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Speaker 4: We got check.

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Speaker 1: They play amazing brand of basketball as far as winning games.

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Speaker 1: And again I said it, if I was a high

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Speaker 1: I will try to model my team after.

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Speaker 4: However, the difference.

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Speaker 1: Between when we're seeing with them and the difference when

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Speaker 4: You knew what he was. You just wild.

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Speaker 1: You don't know the game, Zoe, and they were in

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Speaker 1: games I'm going where you're going. They had to hit

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Speaker 1: I don't know how we pulled that off. You go

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Speaker 1: Remember this is early step Now we're used to it.

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Speaker 1: familiar with Steve Kurt. There was something new be seen

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Speaker 1: with this Thunder team. Not a single buddy of mine

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Speaker 3: That's why I said it did the worst nobody. This

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Speaker 3: just it's it's their fault for being really good. And

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Speaker 3: I understand it's not compelling. It's not without the compelling part,

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Speaker 3: But we don't know how we get to that point,

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Speaker 4: But you know, yeah, but sports is totally different.

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Speaker 3: The whole idea is that we don't know what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: my god, I can't believe what I just saw. I

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Speaker 3: I don't believe it. No, it's unbelieving, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, you brought up Tyrres Haliburton, who thought he

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Speaker 3: That's what makes sports. It's exciting. This Thunder team is

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Speaker 3: It doesn't interest me. It doesn't make me feel any

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Speaker 3: Globe Trotter is Washington Generals thing that we're watching. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: Let's say this was the Spurs and Winby was just

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Speaker 1: this is crazy. But because SGA is their best player,

432
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Speaker 1: and he just goes about his business in a workman

433
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 1: like fashion.

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Speaker 4: You don't talk about it.

435
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,400
Speaker 1: Nobody ever had a single one of your friends ever

436
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 1: sent you a SGA, a reel on DM, on Instagram

437
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 1: or text.

438
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:19,679
Speaker 4: And he just goes about his business.

439
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 1: He wins, he's quiet, he's chill, and it's again, that's

440
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Speaker 1: what you actually like if you're a coach or if

441
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 1: you're you know, modeling a team after it. But you

442
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,399
Speaker 1: want some juice, you want something. They don't even have

443
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,640
Speaker 1: a nickname, usually got a nickname. When you're this good Rob,

444
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 1: I keep telling everybody that you're the Bad Boys. You know,

445
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 1: You're the Lake Show, You're the Showtime Lakers, You're the

446
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Speaker 1: something rob Z what.

447
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Speaker 4: You guy guys.

448
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Speaker 5: Obviously he's early in the season, but if the season

449
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 5: ended today, the Oklahoma City Thunder would have a net

450
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 5: rating of plus seventeen point two, which means they win

451
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 5: each game by an average of seventeen points per game.

452
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 5: The previous high in NBA history was a Jordan Bulls

453
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Speaker 5: team nineteen ninety six thirteen point four. That gap about

454
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 5: four points will be the difference between the seventy two

455
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 5: win Bulls and the twenty was at twenty twenty.

456
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Speaker 4: Milwaukee Buck twenty twenty one, Blauckey Bucks with the honest.

457
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 8: So the gap between Oklahoma City and arguably the greatest

458
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 8: team of all time is the same gap between what

459
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 8: had been the greatest team of all time and a

460
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 8: nondescript champion from four years ago.

461
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 4: Right, that's how much better they are.

462
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 3: But it's but it also tells you why this isn't compelling.

463
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 4: It just isn't. And I'm not.

464
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 3: If you're in Oklahoma City and that's all you have going,

465
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 3: I understand it. You feel great. They win every night

466
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 3: for the rest of NBA America. No thank you, no,

467
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 3: no thank you. And it's not just their fault. Nobody

468
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 3: can see to come up with a defense or do anything.

469
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:55,360
Speaker 3: And when when you don't have competition, that's what makes

470
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 3: sports special.

471
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 4: Gotta have competition.

472
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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live edition of The Odd Couple

473
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 2: with Rob Parker and kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm

474
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 2: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the

475
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app.

476
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 5: Philip rivers and looks like he's gonna start this week

477
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 5: just the full disclosure that he's been preparing him, not

478
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 5: Riley Leonard to be the starter of this Sunday against Seattle.

479
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 5: And you guys mentioned he's forty four years old, hasn't

480
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 5: played in the NBA since Louisiana, NFL since Louisiana purchase.

481
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 4: There you go.

482
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 5: So it's got a lot of folks like, hey, if

483
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 5: they're asking him what they're asking me, including ESPN personality

484
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,679
Speaker 5: former NFL MVP Cam Newton, who talked about on his

485
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 5: own podcast this is the character and he is none

486
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 5: too happy.

487
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 4: Take a listener, hatter, you know this almost like a

488
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 4: slap in my face.

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Speaker 9: All the things that you're doing in media, do you

490
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 9: come off like you're available? Well, stay in the case

491
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 9: name bro saying any type of signs?

492
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 4: Why are you asking me to do something that everybody

493
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 4: else didn't do? I ain't no lab raps.

494
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 9: Come on, bro, still have you followed my snaps? He's retired.

495
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 9: You ain't even retired.

496
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 4: I did not and will not because of an opportunity

497
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 4: like this. And I was always in a system. But

498
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 4: still like, I don't give a damn if he was

499
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 4: in a family. He's forty four years old, Bro, You're

500
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 4: are the whole Cam new Is.

501
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 9: To a standard that you're not holding everybody else kill.

502
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 4: Did you say that you were still available, Caim, You're retired,

503
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 4: so did Philip.

504
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 8: But I know when it comes with me the personality, bro.

505
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 9: Folks don't want to should do a situation they don't

506
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 9: want to do.

507
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 4: They don't want a circus.

508
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, they want somebody who can complete better than fifty

509
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 3: two percent of that passes.

510
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: Okay, Evan, you let it right there, right. Here's the

511
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: thing what Cam is missing. So the part in that

512
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: video or that sound, you miss it because he goes,

513
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 1: have you seen my snapchat? And then he shows in

514
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,719
Speaker 1: the video he's insane. Were talking about Aaron Donald earlier.

515
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: There are some people who retire or stop playing who

516
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: continue to work out that crazy. So physically, yeah, Cam,

517
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 1: you're a specimen six', six ripped up to probably still.

518
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: Run absolutely physically you are a better fit Than Philip.

519
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 4: Rivers ain't no denying. That it ain't no denying.

520
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: THAT i don't know maybe THAT i don't think there

521
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 1: are sixty four quarterbacks better Than Cam. Doon but here's the,

522
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 1: thing and here's the life. Lesson we still Got Mark

523
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: gunnell's young. Man we just met his homie and his

524
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: friend here as. Well it's a lesson for a lot

525
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: of young. PEOPLE i remember WHEN i was in, College

526
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: rob freshman Year Northwestern Michigan, college it's been a year

527
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 1: if there In Travilse, city you know Where travi's city, is,

528
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: yep and said to me one day he, said blah blah.

529
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Speaker 1: Blah then he, goes, well it ain't what you, know

530
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: it's who you. Know AND i remember, THINKING, whi, well,

531
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Speaker 1: Okay and that stuck with. Me and obviously you know.

532
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 1: That And cam his fault is what he's, missing and

533
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,360
Speaker 1: what he knows Is Philip rivers in this. Situation we

534
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: know he out of, shape we know he hadn't played

535
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: in five. Years we know he is nowhere near the

536
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 1: specimen Of Cam. Newton but he knows. Him he's in their,

537
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 1: system he's good with, them probably stay connected with.

538
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 4: Them and they, said, well in a, pinch we gotta

539
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 4: go with a. Guy we're gonna go with this. Guy

540
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 4: this guy we.

541
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: Know and in their, minds the last time we Saw

542
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: Philip rivers he was eleven and five twenty four and

543
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 1: eleven twenty four, touchdowns eleve, interceptions and that's what they.

544
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: Saw and the last time we Saw Cam newton for

545
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 1: the stress that he. Had it was like four, touchdowns five,

546
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: interceptions and he didn't look. Good he was completing only

547
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 1: about fifty percent of his. Passes so it ain't just

548
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: that they know, him it's that also in their, Mind

549
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: philip was successful the last time we saw.

550
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 4: Him and, Lastly, Rob.

551
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: Sometimes when you make a decision to jump into something,

552
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: else it can't slow your, role it can't hinder. You Cam,

553
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: newton this is how they view him. Now he's a,

554
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: podcaster he's an. Analyst you see him on a first

555
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: take With You, boy Steven a and all the shows

556
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,959
Speaker 1: that that's the space they view him. In, Now cam's,

557
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: Opinionated cam's, loud and he's. Right all That cam's personality

558
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: for a game that he might have to play one.

559
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: Game they don't want that. Around i'm not saying is

560
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: wrong or. Right i'm saying that's the, reality and he is.

561
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 1: Right they don't want all that. Around they want to

562
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: go with the. Comfy what they know Is Philip, rivers

563
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: he got to. Shake he's forty, four he's got twelve.

564
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: Kids but we know. Him bring him in and that's

565
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: What cam is dealing with at this point teams know

566
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,959
Speaker 1: he's still probably better than a handful of quarterbacks backups

567
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: in the. League they just don't want everything else that

568
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 1: comes with. It and he knows it and is one

569
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: of the times he was. Right, Nah i'm gonna, Say Cam,

570
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: newton there's a. Cup there's two things for.

571
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 3: Me aside from his you, KNOW mvp, year which was,

572
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 3: tremendous there's a lot of bad. Stuff numbers completed under

573
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,479
Speaker 3: sixty percent of his passes and six of his ELEVEN nfl,

574
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 3: seasons only had three winning seasons as a, starter.

575
00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 4: Only had a.

576
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 3: Passer rating over nine twice in HIS nfl, career only.

577
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 4: Twice here's the other. Thing he's turned Into Dwight.

578
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 3: Howard the reason That Dwight howard didn't make that list

579
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 3: top seventy.

580
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 4: Five what happened To Dwight howard got. Goofy he got.

581
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 3: Goofy and that's Where Cam newton, is whether people want

582
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 3: to admit it or.

583
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 4: Not AND i think when people look at, it they

584
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 4: don't think he's. Serious that's WHAT i. Mean they don't

585
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 4: think he's serious about.

586
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 3: This this is why no, one even though he didn't,

587
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 3: retire No, one he hasn't been on anybody's phone, list

588
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 3: all the, injuries all these bad play. Quarterbacks there's nothing

589
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 3: but bad quarterbacks all over the. Place and he didn't

590
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 3: get a phone. Call why didn't he get a phone?

591
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 4: Call because they don't view him a serious about. Football

592
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 4: there you, go.

593
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:54,719
Speaker 3: And the personality and all that other stuff and and

594
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 3: And i'm just telling you like that that can happen

595
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 3: to you where people look at you and, Go, okay

596
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 3: he's not interested in football or. Whatever he's doing some

597
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 3: other stuff. Here and there is a distracting distraction, factor

598
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 3: whether people want to admit it or.

599
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 4: Not and it ain't Just Shadoor.

600
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 3: SANDERS i wish People Tim tebow is probably the poster

601
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 3: child for people not wanting him.

602
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: Around actually it ain't Just it's not just you got

603
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,479
Speaker 1: people Like Johnny manziel was like a lot with, that

604
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: and it's.

605
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Speaker 3: A, lot and you're, like is it worth? It is

606
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 3: it worth? It we just don't want all of. That

607
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 3: and AND i think that's why he wouldn't get a.

608
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Speaker 3: Call and the last time we saw, him there was

609
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 3: a ball rolling around on the Super bowl the.

610
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Speaker 4: Big the last time we saw, him a Super bowl

611
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 4: still rolling around Until denver picked it.

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Speaker 1: UP i, mean h don't do. That don't be mad

613
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: at business. Decisions, No i'm just don't be mad at business.

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Speaker 1: Decisions in the Super, bowl got to go. Out John

615
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Speaker 1: elway run, around got his neck twisted, around turns Around

616
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Speaker 1: North carolina.

617
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 4: Like a twirl around like a helicopter. Pablos so if

618
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 4: you remember he didn't even talk after The Super, bowl

619
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Speaker 4: do you remember? THAT i, do. Well he's been talking ever.

620
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 4: Since a couple of days. Later he didn't talk that.

621
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Speaker 1: Night he been talking ever. Since he ain't talked that.

622
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: Night let me throw let me throw a name at

623
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Speaker 1: you a great. Example baker may feels crazy by the.

624
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: Way they're showing a real of him headbudding people with

625
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: no helmet on hitting the head. Button, boy this is

626
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: that's Where scatterboo got that, from And Jackson dart and

627
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,719
Speaker 1: all the crazy stuff these dudes are. Doing let me

628
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: throw this at you real. Quick an example of what

629
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: we're talking. About Tim. Tebow they, said at a certain

630
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Speaker 1: point it ain't worth all, that UH i, cam he

631
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: is a. Specimen he Probably it's just not worth all.

632
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: That you want to know an example with all the

633
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: negative that came with, it all the rurah all the,

634
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: media but they were, like, nah this's gonna be worth,

635
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: it and they ultimately were. Right Michael. Vick Michael vick

636
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: came with crazy. Stuff, Oh i'll never be a part

637
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: of The Philadelphia. EAGLE i had season tickets for thirty.

638
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: Years i'll burn. Them i'll Burn. JERRY i can't believe this.

639
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: Organization Andy, reid that organization, Said, Uh Mike vick can

640
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: still play. Donovin mg nabs voucher for. Him that, says,

641
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: man we're gonna get him in the. System he can

642
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: be a. Backup ultimately came, back come come Back player

643
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: of The year and was AN mvp can of a

644
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: Ball we saw the Best Mike vick post prison With Andy.

645
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 4: Reid that was the best version Of Michael.

646
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: Vick we all said if he was ever locked in like,

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Speaker 1: that he'd be a sure, ballot first Ballot hall Of.

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Speaker 1: Famer my point was it was worth all of that they,

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Speaker 1: felt and teams will do that if they feel it's

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Speaker 1: but he.

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Speaker 4: Wasn't a distraction like with the.

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Speaker 1: Team you know WHAT i mean WHEN i talking about,

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Speaker 1: Him i'm saying what came every day you trying to

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00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: park your car as a, player it's picket signs it's.

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Speaker 4: News can you remember what it was With Mike? VICK

656
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 4: i don't remember. That, yeah there's people to this, Day.

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Speaker 1: Manzi every day we rob, you you, Know, manzi when

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Speaker 1: we bring this, Up monty GETS i mean almost like

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Speaker 1: like red in a, face mad about.

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Speaker 4: That i'll never forget give.

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Speaker 1: Him there's a lot of people to this, day to

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Speaker 1: this day who still feel like that About Michael vick

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00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: and The eagle's dealt with Did they talked about it

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Speaker 1: like if you watched The Michael vick. Doc but they were, like,

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Speaker 1: man we thought we can bring him. In we already

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Speaker 1: have familiarity With, donovan was his. Guy we kind of

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Speaker 1: thought we could house him, in you, know showed him some.

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00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: Love we talked to people said he was, contried he really,

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Speaker 1: changed and next thing you, know ultimately he got his

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Speaker 1: chance and he shried for a couple of years with.

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Speaker 1: Them but my point is they felt it was worth,

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Speaker 1: it and that was worse than just, like oh he's

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Speaker 1: a little. Mouth the extra that was like people burning

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Speaker 1: tickets and jerseys and all that business.

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Speaker 3: Hurt BUT i think of your cam and you you

676
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Speaker 3: don't get a phone call from anybody and you haven't

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00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 3: officially announced your with stay in shape and you're in

678
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Speaker 3: shape and you're not even old, Yet like it says a,

679
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 3: lot and it tells you that how people view, you

680
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Speaker 3: which is they don't view you as viable anymore as a.

681
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Speaker 3: Quarterback AND i think that is something that that he'd

682
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Speaker 3: have to ask. Himself just the way that he presents

683
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Speaker 3: his now and the way he does, stuff do people

684
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Speaker 3: take him? Seriously AND i think, that AND i think that's.

685
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Speaker 3: Real i'm not so sure that they.

686
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Speaker 1: Do i'm gonna throw a couple other names at you

687
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Speaker 1: that these guys go away for a, while you might

688
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: not hear from. Here some of them win coach high

689
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: school and they still get jobs IN a part of

690
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: it is because they know how to come in be

691
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: a part of the. Team and it's not a lot

692
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: of the, drama right and not all the videos remember

693
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Speaker 1: the videos Of cam fighting kids and the camp and all,

694
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Speaker 1: That like there's always. Stuff Teddy bridgewater can go and

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Speaker 1: coach a, team come, back get back on The.

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Speaker 4: Lions and now he's with The who's he with this?

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Speaker 4: Year is it the?

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Speaker 6: Who?

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Speaker 4: No but but The? Falcons?

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Speaker 1: Right but but that tells you. Sucks but that tells you.

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Speaker 1: Something that's What Teddy. Bridgewater they, Know, hey, man we

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Speaker 1: know what he. Is profession gonna come, in get to,

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Speaker 1: Work Teddy. Bridgewater Tyrod taylor can go, away get staff

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Speaker 1: in the, chest puncture, lungs And Tyrod taylor is gonna

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Speaker 1: keep a. Job fitzpatrick for like ten, years will go,

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Speaker 1: away be on the, team back of, it and then

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Speaker 1: just keep a. Job and so my point is there

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Speaker 1: are guys who have those, opportunities but it's, because as we,

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Speaker 1: MENTIONED i don't think everything else that comes with.

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Speaker 4: It, cam it's not just being in.

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00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: Shape they don't believe you actually can play the position

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Speaker 1: at a high level right, now and and you, know

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Speaker 1: maybe you believe you, can and BUT i don't think

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Speaker 1: we'll ever find out.

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Speaker 4: Again do you ever think he'll get a shot? Again,

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Speaker 4: NO i don't, either.

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Speaker 3: Because because there's too Many there have been too many

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Speaker 3: places open right. Been they've been a ton of quarterback

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Speaker 3: where guys are heard or bank people need. Quarterbacks and

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Speaker 3: you said, it he's in. Shape they're not forty five years, old.

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Speaker 1: Specimen. Dude we just saw him at the Last Super

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Speaker 1: bowl when we were. There he was doing his.

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Speaker 5: Podcast, there Guys Philip rivers last season In indianapolis at

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Speaker 5: age thirty, nine at least, statistically would be the second

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Speaker 5: best season Of Cam newton's. Career, wow in terms of passer,

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00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 5: rating in terms of, touchdowns in terms of like all,

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Speaker 5: that outside Of Cam NEWTON'S mvp, season which was.

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Speaker 4: Awesome that wasn't, awesome ye, Df.

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00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 5: Cam newton is much better than what the actual statistics will.

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Speaker 4: Ship rob don't do. Anymore he can't run. Anymore and

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Speaker 4: he was such a big.

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Speaker 3: Guy like he was so, big you, know compared to

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Speaker 3: you say that when he walks around between between his.

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Speaker 4: Stature and that. HAT i, MEAN i thought the Mad

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Speaker 4: hatter was at.

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Speaker 1: The Super, Bowl Willie wonka Mad, hatter The monopoly.

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Speaker 4: Dude he was anybody with a top Had.

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Speaker 5: But you, Know cam is one of the few people

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Speaker 5: we saw At Radio road that actually looks down At Rob.

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Speaker 4: Parker that's how Big camp. Is And i'm a real six,

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Speaker 4: Four i'm not, like oh you are with the hat.

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Speaker 4: On he six,' nine, well exactly he had a little but,

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Speaker 4: like people people want to hear what he, has said

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Speaker 4: it was a.

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Speaker 5: Lot huge like we saw him next To Like, travis

746
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Speaker 5: kelce we saw, him, like well maybe not, this year

747
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 5: but we saw him next to other big players and,

748
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 5: you're like he's not. A quarterback he's, oh, yeah no he's.

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Speaker 5: A quarterback