1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: Murder in Miami is a production of iHeartRadio. This week, 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: we'll hear more from the charismatic former marijuana smuggler Bobby 3 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: Platshorn on how and why he and Ron Elliott of 4 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: the Coconut Grove Guys crossed paths at the end of 5 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: the Black Tuna era. So the question I had for 6 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: you is, after you and I spoke, Phil mentioned the 7 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: name Ron Elliott, and I did not remember that name 8 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: from your book. 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 2: The Ron you're chasin was really not part of us. 10 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: They threw him in in the end because we tried 11 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: to get him and his partner to do a rescue 12 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 2: mission after we no longer had airplanes available, But that's 13 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 2: really all of it. He had nothing to do with us. 14 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 3: Did you get any read on him when you met 15 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 3: him in person? 16 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: No. I was told he was an excellent pilot, and 17 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 2: I didn't really know him. I reached out when that 18 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: plane crashed and Purvis and the other pilots were stuck 19 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: down there. 20 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: Bobby's referencing a crash in Columbia that involved two of 21 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: the Black Tuna Gang pilots. When their plane went down, 22 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: Platschorn was in need of another pilot to attempt a 23 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: rescue mission enter Ron Elliott. 24 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: Well, he had done a number of trips flying two 25 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 2: I think ASSESSMA for twenty one's doing trips into central Florida. 26 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 2: And he was using two so that one could be 27 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: a ghost plane and one would be a legitimate check. 28 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 3: In, so one was like a decoy. 29 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, he did a lot of trips. He 30 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: was successful. He was bringing him into I think north 31 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: central Florida. 32 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 3: And so what did you want him to do for you? 33 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: Go pick up the stranded pilots. I probably offered him 34 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: a couple of hundred brand or something to go pick 35 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: them up, get them out of there, and needed somebody 36 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: who was willing to go down right away. I mean, 37 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: we had to get them out of there. They were 38 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: hiding in the jungle. If the Columbian Army or police 39 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 2: could find them, then it would be a serious jail 40 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,399 Speaker 2: term for them or a serious expense bailing them out. 41 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: So originally he agreed to do it. But in addition 42 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: to the money, he wanted coke. 43 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't remember if it may have been ten. 44 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 3: Keys, which would have been a lot. 45 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and that's not a huge shipment, but it 46 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 2: would have put a lot of money in his pocket. 47 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: But I had no intention of getting involved in the 48 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 2: coke business. So I made a point of getting a 49 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: hold of my connection in Columbia or Raoul and tell them, 50 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 2: under no circumstances was any cocaine to go on the plane, 51 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: because at that point it felt like a setup. 52 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 53 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 3: And so did he rescue the pilots? 54 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 2: Yes, he did, but he didn't get the coke. 55 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 3: How did he react to that? 56 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: I don't recall tell you the truth, but I know 57 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: when Fervis got out of the plane, the DEA was 58 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 2: there waiting for him, and he was waiting to help 59 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 2: the DEA. 60 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: So you went to all that effort to save him, Yeah, 61 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: and then he turned on you exactly. Thank god you 62 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: didn't put any coke on that plane because if the 63 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: DA was waiting for it. 64 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was originally a coke charge in the indictment, 65 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: but they. 66 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 3: Pulled it out, so it was a setup. 67 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: Yes, it was a setup. I don't know if ron 68 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: Elliott knew it was a setup, but George Fervis certainly knew. 69 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: How did the DA even know to be there? 70 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: They were set up with George. George had been busted 71 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: bringing the shipment into North Carolina. When he got out 72 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: on bail, he needed a place to live and stay 73 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: till his trial, and I let him work at our 74 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: used car lot, which was part of our auction complex, 75 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,119 Speaker 2: so he was around all the time. Then he did 76 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 2: this airplane trip to Columbia. Plane crashed and we had 77 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: to get them out of there, him and two pilots, 78 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 2: and we got them out. I felt that was my responsibility, 79 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 2: even though that wasn't my trip. 80 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: Wow, how did you feel when you found out that 81 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: the DA was waiting and that he turned. 82 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 2: I was pretty well sure of it before he was back. 83 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: Just all the arrangements for the rescue just had a 84 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 2: bad feel, and I was pretty sure that. 85 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 3: They'd be waiting, and you did the right thing. 86 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 2: I was worried about it, but one thing at a time, 87 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 2: get them out of Columbia first. 88 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 89 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: or wherever you get the stories that matter to you.