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Speaker 1: What Is Up? Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode

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Speaker 1: of the Mets Up Podcast, the official podcast of the

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Speaker 1: New York Mets. Just wrapped up one of the wettest, dampest,

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Speaker 1: saggiest series that I can remember for my recent memory,

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Speaker 1: against the Atlanta Braves, ending with a double header on

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Speaker 1: a Monday. Bizarre. The first game of the series happens

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Speaker 1: on Friday, then to rain out, then a doubleheader. It

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Speaker 1: was just overall one of the weirdest weekends that I've

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Speaker 1: experienced in a very very long time. So much rain.

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Speaker 1: As you guys know, we did lose a series as well,

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Speaker 1: which sticks not not particularly excited about that, but there's

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Speaker 1: some things to take out of this that were at

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Speaker 1: least good, and especially on the offensive side, a lot

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Speaker 1: of good things going on with the New York Mets.

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Speaker 1: So we will talk about every single game as we

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Speaker 1: so you don't miss out. James, how you doing, man?

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 2: You're a good man, you know, both of us out

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Speaker 2: of weekends back in Westfield, both of us now, I

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Speaker 2: mean I'm back and can just came back now very

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Speaker 2: candidly watching Rangers game seven another tab right now behind

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Speaker 2: while were doing this episode. But just a really weird,

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Speaker 2: like you said, very bizarre, strange Mets series that we

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Speaker 2: just had to work this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's just been so much rain up

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Speaker 1: until today, and it's gonna rain I think on Tuesday too.

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Speaker 2: Really all week again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, great, love it awesome. I love when it's raining.

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Speaker 1: At least the Mets will be away in Detroit. The

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Speaker 1: beautiful weather that is there. I think it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: like forty degrees. We'll talk about that in the series preview.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, this was a huge series with the Braves.

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Speaker 1: The Mets had not necessarily been playing their best baseball.

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Speaker 1: They had that little bit of a losing streak going

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Speaker 1: up against the Giants and Nationals and the series with

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Speaker 1: a win, as we know on the episode that we recorded.

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Speaker 1: But coming into this Brave series, there was a lot

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Speaker 1: of questions I think by a lot of people in

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Speaker 1: the baseball world about what the Mets were looking like,

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people just in the Mets fandom.

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Speaker 1: Essentially we're looking at this series as a very very

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Speaker 1: important one, and even us we talked about that this

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Speaker 1: is the most important series I've played all year. And

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Speaker 1: while it didn't necessarily go our way, it's for sure

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Speaker 1: not doomsday like there are some people making out to

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Speaker 1: be like, there were some good things that happened, and

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Speaker 1: relatively speaking, starting with Game one, it's pretty fluky what

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Speaker 1: happened in Game one, Let's be honest, Like we were

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Speaker 1: having our.

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Speaker 2: Own conversation like of Fael, like whether we're gonna go

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Speaker 2: to the city field or not, because like you want

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Speaker 2: to go to every single almost every single Mets game,

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Speaker 2: but definitely every single Mets Brayers game. But then you

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Speaker 2: saw the weather was like rain starting at seven, rain

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Speaker 2: CoA talked about it. He was like, really stinks were

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Speaker 2: playing this game, the pouring rain, and there was Moraine

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like I mean, like you said me and you

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Speaker 1: don't really want ever there to be like this, this

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Speaker 1: wet damp. You you described in the notes as soggy,

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Speaker 1: They had to get this one in, especially with the

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Speaker 1: don't want to have another five game series like we

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Speaker 2: In a way, definitely, and it was again just the

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Speaker 2: coming in with high expectations after a really good end

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Speaker 2: the demotion to Syracuse after the game, which is very

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Speaker 2: surprising to us, probably many Mets fans out there, but

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Speaker 2: you just kind of watched that game. You saw him

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Speaker 2: cruise through four innings. He had all the strikeouts, he

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Speaker 2: that we'd come to expect this year. And then suddenly

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Speaker 2: third time around the batting weather and seems like guys

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Speaker 2: game against the Braves last May, also a double Heather.

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Speaker 2: We were at the game. That was when we were

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Speaker 2: like first started like have these conversations with the Mets.

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Speaker 2: We got on TV with Darren with the seven line

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Speaker 2: to do the celebration. Very fun day. But if you

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Speaker 2: have to go to the bathroom at some point during

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Speaker 2: this game. And I'm gonna go next inning when medalson

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Speaker 2: on David Peterson. Yeah, and like, well, you know, it

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Speaker 2: I can't remember. I always specifically remember the last three

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Speaker 2: really just felt like this was going to happen. It

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And based on where the pitch looked like on TV,

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Speaker 1: and it just all fell apart in that fifth. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, like, what do you think is really happening?

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Speaker 2: It seems like that there was a conscious effort by

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Speaker 2: Peterson or someone else to make adjustments to his sly

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Speaker 2: make it more of a primary pitch, which makes sense

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Speaker 2: given Peterson's repertoire and the way he's developed as a

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Speaker 2: pitcher because the sinker was always so so he's really

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Speaker 2: done a lot of work to get better extension that fastball,

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Speaker 2: get better ride on it, but it's still not exactly

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Speaker 2: It's a little bit tighter almost act like a little

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Speaker 2: But what seems to have happen is that he as

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Speaker 2: it seems like this pitch has been adjusted a little

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Speaker 2: it right now. And again, the logic of making that

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Speaker 2: When that pitch is like is the golden goose on top?

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Speaker 2: You can geess something. But what's happened this year is

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Speaker 2: He's getting a little bit more on top of it

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Speaker 2: in terms of his spin angle. Last year he was

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Speaker 2: single time is thrown. He's throwing it significantly more in

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Speaker 2: rider was tweeting with him about this today because there

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Speaker 2: about those changes. It's getting ten points less wis. Last

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Speaker 2: thirty seven percent. It's been the hard zone this year

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Speaker 2: twenty one percent of the time. Last year was sixteen

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Speaker 2: percent of time. It's being chased only seventeen percent of

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Speaker 2: That's a chase rate that's well well well below league average,

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Speaker 2: significantly like on all pitches, significantly below the league average

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Speaker 2: on sliders, and then but with all that, the strikeer

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Speaker 2: get ahead. That wipes him out to a pitch that

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Speaker 2: really it just seems like he hasn't fully he hasn't

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Speaker 2: And when that is your top pitch and it's not

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Speaker 2: getting what has to was not getting it done, you're

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Speaker 2: not gonna get guys out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I guess you can't really tinker with it

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Speaker 1: the outcomes that we're now getting, which is probably why

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Speaker 1: got a optioned down the Triple an he can figure

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Speaker 1: it out there. We still have faith in David Peterson

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Speaker 1: to be a very good pitcher. Like you said, that slider.

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Speaker 1: That sider is a good pitch. It's just right now,

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Speaker 1: Peterson to truly be effective. And it's also a weird

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Speaker 1: although although we know that Justin Verlander and Max Scherzer

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Speaker 1: the game off pretty well. But the Mets bats did

434
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Speaker 1: wake up in this game and we got to Spencer Strider,

435
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Speaker 1: who has been considered one of the better pitchers in baseball,

436
00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,640
Speaker 1: has pitched really well this year. But the kind of like,

437
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Speaker 1: have this guy's number a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Definitely a little bit, definitely more than everybody else said

439
00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,360
Speaker 2: baseball has it, which is kind of something we're gonna

440
00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:37,800
Speaker 2: hang our hats on. For some reason, that guy walks

441
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Speaker 2: into the city field and the little little mustas shrivels

442
00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:40,640
Speaker 2: up and he can't really pitch.

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Speaker 1: We go five foot nine of him.

444
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you gave it again. It's the bullpen day.

445
00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,840
Speaker 2: So the offense kind of knows that going in and like,

446
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Speaker 2: we gotta, we gotta, we gotta show up a little bit.

447
00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,560
Speaker 2: And they scratched one across in the first inning and

448
00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,400
Speaker 2: made it through almost forty pitches. You're like, okay, we're

449
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Speaker 2: doing it. Now let's get it together. And then you

450
00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,120
Speaker 2: gave it three more again. But this Mets team did

451
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Speaker 2: not quit. It will never say die. And they came

452
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Speaker 2: right back at the home run and Brett baty at

453
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Speaker 2: the home run first his crew off a lefty and

454
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Speaker 2: was like, you're fighting, you're scratching your claw, and you

455
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Speaker 2: have every single chance to get in here win this game.

456
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Speaker 2: And then a big moment where the Mets did really

457
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Speaker 2: have a chance he got the game, I think it

458
00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,639
Speaker 2: was two at the time and eventually got one. Was

459
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Speaker 2: Jeff McNeil with David Daniel Fogle back at the play,

460
00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,040
Speaker 2: nobody out bases loathing and ground ball hit the first base.

461
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Speaker 2: Every single Mets fanmoona grow at the same time, like,

462
00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,480
Speaker 2: oh man, Danny double plays, it's gonna happen again. And

463
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Speaker 2: then Vaughan Grissom, who I've bemoaned a few times with

464
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Speaker 2: the podcast, were being either just don't think he's very

465
00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,600
Speaker 2: good shortstop. He takes the throw a second, he cuts

466
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Speaker 2: around the outside the bag as a shortstop would do,

467
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Speaker 2: and then Jeff McNeil just just slides into second base

468
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Speaker 2: like super normally great slide, super a very normal average

469
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Speaker 2: slide to any baseball player anywhere always would say was

470
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Speaker 2: good and and von Grissom just makes a radic throat

471
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Speaker 2: because he's a subpard defender. And then the Mets week

472
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Speaker 2: got a few more runs after Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Braves fans online were trying to say that was a

474
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Speaker 1: dirty slide by no means was that a dirty slide?

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Speaker 1: Heny means that's one hard nose baseball. He also didn't

476
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Speaker 1: hurt von Grissom, all didn't really make any significant contact

477
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Speaker 1: with him, didn't come in cleats up. Was he as

478
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Speaker 1: close to second base as possible? I'm gonna I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna say whether he was or was, and I think

480
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Speaker 1: that's for you guys to decide. And some of you

481
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Speaker 1: watching the video version at home probably getting a little

482
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Speaker 1: kick out of the faces that me and James are

483
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Speaker 1: making here while saying this. But it was a baseball play.

484
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Speaker 1: It was a baseball slide, and Von grissa made a

485
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Speaker 1: bad throw got behind him. The Braves didn't challenge. You

486
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Speaker 1: want to know why, because the Braves didn't think that

487
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Speaker 1: there was anything wrong with it, So surely it was

488
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Speaker 1: a completely normal slide, which it was by the rules

489
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Speaker 1: of the game, and it did bring the game a

490
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Speaker 1: little bit closer. Like you said, it brought it right

491
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Speaker 1: back to a two run game. Yes, and it pretty

492
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Speaker 1: much did sit there until the ninth inning when aj

493
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Speaker 1: Minter came into the game, who I talked about all

494
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Speaker 1: podcasts last time of not being great, and to be fair,

495
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Speaker 1: he still wasn't very great. I mean his control was

496
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Speaker 1: all over the place. But our boy at ward O

497
00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,520
Speaker 1: Escobar and yard O Esco bombs coming in to face

498
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Speaker 1: the lefty with the right hand swing that you know

499
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Speaker 1: I love so much of his. It's a nice home

500
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Speaker 1: run off aj Minter, and all of a sudden it's

501
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Speaker 1: nine to eight with Brett Bady at the plate, who

502
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Speaker 1: just got his first home ron against a lefty earlier

503
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Speaker 1: in the game. Aj Minter was a little bit all

504
00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,080
Speaker 1: over the place. It baity tattooed it to right field,

505
00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,920
Speaker 1: crushed it was just right at Akunya and that that

506
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Speaker 1: was the end of the game. But like like you said,

507
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Speaker 1: this team didn't just like completely keel over and die.

508
00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:15,919
Speaker 1: They were like, no, We're still gonna try and come

509
00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,320
Speaker 1: back in this one against one of the division rivals,

510
00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,000
Speaker 1: which is what you're supposed to do. But it is

511
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Speaker 1: also nice to see. Yeah, if we're gonna take a

512
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Speaker 1: silver lining out of a.

513
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Speaker 2: Loss, for sure. And it was like that the whole game.

514
00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:26,399
Speaker 2: Like they were not six to one second inning in

515
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Speaker 2: this game, and they didn't they didn't die. You got yeah,

516
00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,520
Speaker 2: gave me the brig aim minute because Jeff break up

517
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Speaker 2: to give up the big blow in this game.

518
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Speaker 1: I know, yeah, I was.

519
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Speaker 2: I did.

520
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Speaker 1: I didn't know if you wanted.

521
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Speaker 2: To do have to. I can't, I can't, I can't,

522
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Speaker 2: I can't, I can't bask in the sun. Then run

523
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Speaker 2: away from the shade like this is this is the

524
00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:40,760
Speaker 2: whole point of it. This is the experience.

525
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Speaker 1: That's that's big Jay journalism right there.

526
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Speaker 2: It has to be. And one thing about Brigham, which

527
00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,200
Speaker 2: is true good about every single leiver in this bullpen

528
00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:47,879
Speaker 2: right now, is that they're being asked to probably do

529
00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,879
Speaker 2: a little bit more in the comfort with and he

530
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Speaker 2: did come in. He got a big out and winning

531
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Speaker 2: was that. I'm a check right now. That was he

532
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Speaker 2: got a big last out in the in the sixth

533
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Speaker 2: inning when I was an there was there was a

534
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Speaker 2: man on but he got he got my walk, Michael

535
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Speaker 2: Harrison got Pollard. Then he came back out for the

536
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Speaker 2: seventh and he immediately gave it a double Dacoonya Alson

537
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Speaker 2: walked and then Sean Murphy just hit the moonshot off

538
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Speaker 2: him on a sweeper that just it just sat in

539
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Speaker 2: the middle of the plate. It was just it kind

540
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Speaker 2: of hung. It got it really hung there. And one

541
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Speaker 2: thing that really concerned me at Brigham in the start,

542
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Speaker 2: that concerned about Brigham the whole time was as fastball vlost.

543
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,200
Speaker 2: He was way down in this game. It was down

544
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Speaker 2: about tick and half from where it sat the rest

545
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Speaker 2: of the season. He was really only bare leave again

546
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Speaker 2: to ninety three over again. He was still getting there

547
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Speaker 2: at the end. But it's just I almost have a

548
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Speaker 2: feeling that he was aware that he was this is

549
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:34,639
Speaker 2: gonna be like a thirty to forty pitch. Adding he

550
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Speaker 2: might have taken a little lost and that made that

551
00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:37,720
Speaker 2: pitch a little less effective. That put more on the

552
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Speaker 2: sweeper that he eventually hung one, and that sucked. It

553
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Speaker 2: just sucked to watch our Murphy the second of two

554
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Speaker 2: through a home runs in the game. Every single Mets

555
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Speaker 2: fang collectively is totally aware that Sean Murphy is going

556
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Speaker 2: to be the biggest to throw on our side. For

557
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Speaker 2: what this The entire duration of the six year contract

558
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 2: he got for free.

559
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it looked like kind of anyway that

560
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,560
Speaker 1: we were sliced to CA. Shae Langleiers really keep us

561
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,200
Speaker 1: a little bit of trouble too out in Oakland. But

562
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Speaker 1: come on, how did they get Trump Murphy for free? Man?

563
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:01,880
Speaker 1: Was it for free?

564
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,120
Speaker 2: They trade William Peterreros like well a good ball player.

565
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they treat him to the Brewers. How did

566
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,400
Speaker 1: the A's get nothing? That's what I want to say,

567
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 1: the guy's story of Ruiz. I think he's he's the

568
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,919
Speaker 1: guy and Kyle Muller so of course, yeah, God Braves,

569
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,880
Speaker 1: get away with it again, get away with it again.

570
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,359
Speaker 1: They can't keep getting away with this.

571
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Speaker 2: I mean, I get these guys and shout out both

572
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Speaker 2: Steve Nagostika and Tommy Hunter for sure giving such important

573
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 2: length in this game to even just get us to

574
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Speaker 2: a point where we still had our best relievers available

575
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Speaker 2: for Game two in a game that was six to

576
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Speaker 2: one in the second inning, that we kind of hung

577
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,479
Speaker 2: tight the whole game, and get it came from Brigham.

578
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 2: I thought Brigham was a guy who was ascending to

579
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Speaker 2: the B team and possibly the A team of this

580
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Speaker 2: late and woll if he doesn't give up that home run.

581
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Speaker 2: Here was a good chance to win this game. So

582
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Speaker 2: I'll again, I'll wear this one. I'll wear this one.

583
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Speaker 2: This losses on me.

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Speaker 1: It's accountability. You got to you gotta respect a podcaster

585
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 1: who takes accountability for his takes. Almost none due no,

586
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Speaker 1: almost almost not. I tried to avoid it as much

587
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Speaker 1: as possible. I hope people forget my bad takes.

588
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Speaker 2: They don't.

589
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 1: The Internet never forgets. Here's what's in a bad take.

590
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Speaker 1: You just you just you just were wrong. It happens

591
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 1: in game two, like we said, was a loss, so

592
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Speaker 1: you lose the series. Now the second game of the

593
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 1: doubleheader coming up with Tyler and McGill on the mound,

594
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Speaker 1: going up against Uncle Charlie.

595
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Speaker 2: And at the time, this was the Mets sixth consecutive

596
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,679
Speaker 2: loss against the Atlanta Braves, And how do you got

597
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 2: to bring that up? We get you talk about accountability,

598
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 2: like we have to be aware of this, like we

599
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 2: have to know like this is this is something that's

600
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 2: very serious. We can't get to where we want to

601
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Speaker 2: get as the t baseball team if we can't find

602
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Speaker 2: a way to get past this team. At this point,

603
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,400
Speaker 2: after Ronda cooon, you're telling you it was too small.

604
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 2: He something has to change, like something does, and it was.

605
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Speaker 2: I I was mad. I was really mad after this game.

606
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Speaker 1: Of course. And uh you know the game started off

607
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,439
Speaker 1: with some some interesting sparks at the start too, because

608
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Speaker 1: uh yeah, Ronda couone, you got hit with the ball

609
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Speaker 1: up by up in the shoulder area on an O

610
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Speaker 1: two pitch I believe, and was then taking off the field,

611
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 1: left the game with an injury. Didn't play in this one.

612
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 1: The Tyler MCA ball slipped, well slipped. It happens.

613
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 2: You're never gonna intentionally throw the guy too.

614
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Speaker 1: So now well he had him mo too. We had

615
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Speaker 1: him on the ropes. I mean, listen, Rond the coonie

616
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Speaker 1: also dives dives over the plate over the guys trying

617
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Speaker 1: to I would too. If I hit like Rond with Cootie,

618
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I'd act like I owned the box.

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Speaker 1: He just didn't get out of the way quick enough.

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Speaker 1: That's what happened.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And that was the end of the wrong the Coooney situation,

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Speaker 1: I think, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean that was he guess whether we'll

625
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 2: see him in August or whatever. That played the Brillies

626
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 2: July or whatever. There's a stupid new schedule. But thankfully

627
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 2: McGill did get us. He really settled down and feel

628
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 2: like this entire roster, he just stepped in the maule.

629
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Speaker 2: He did what he had to do. And it is

630
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Speaker 2: again that trend with mcguil's been going on for most

631
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 2: of the season where he's not striking anybody out. Still,

632
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,360
Speaker 2: he's not getting the swings and mess, he's not striking

633
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Speaker 2: anybody out. The big reason for that is he's just

634
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 2: throwing all fastballs. It was like seven it was like

635
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 2: seventy percent fastballs in this game. And the good news

636
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 2: there is that that fastball velosity has ticked up again

637
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 2: and went up another half a mile an hour in

638
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 2: this game. He got ninety seven a few times. That

639
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 2: is something that is really really really really really encouraging

640
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,120
Speaker 2: about Tyler McGill. But for some reason there's a lack

641
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 2: of comfortability with these secondaries and it's something that this

642
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 2: is it's just not gonna last forever, Tyler McGill getting

643
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 2: these assast secondaries. Still believe in Tyler McGill as a

644
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 2: pitcher and what he is. I saw someone on Twitter

645
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 2: compare him you had to get this twenty eighteen vins

646
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 2: alaskaz today and it made me, it made me terrified whooah,

647
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 2: because I was like a thirty one year old Tyler

648
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 2: McGill like crushes it in a couple of years with

649
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 2: like the Maritors or something. I'm going to a bunch

650
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 2: of all in a wall. But it says just seeing

651
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 2: where that fastball is and how much hope he's still

652
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 2: getting on it, and then the fact that the slider

653
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 2: and the curveball are moving and the change up as

654
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 2: a good gradient of lasty with his fastball, but they're not.

655
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 2: It just seems it's not comfortable to them. He can't

656
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 2: locate them right now. So he's close, he's not there.

657
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 2: And again it was so obvious that Buck really wanted

658
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 2: six innings out. Tyler McGill, Yeah, he almost became again

659
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 2: the elusive moment where the first met picture completed six

660
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 2: innings this year and he was just running out of

661
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 2: gas and it was a walk, and then there was

662
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 2: a long at bat and another walk, and then a

663
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 2: lefty Eddy Rosario comes to the plate and he works

664
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 2: in that bad and he puts one in the gap

665
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 2: and every single mess fan collectively went, oh, not again,

666
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 2: Well not Eddie, dude.

667
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 1: Okay, so it's crazy too because Eddie Rosario known for

668
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 1: having quite the loose bat. The dude swings to everything.

669
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: He he's allergic to walks one of your favorite sayings

670
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: that we use on the podcast. But against the Mets,

671
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 1: this guy becomes the most selective hitter on the planet

672
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,719
Speaker 1: because he took two close pitches here I think from

673
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 1: Tyler mcguill to go up to oh in the count,

674
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: and then mcgil kind of has to attack him again

675
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: because there was nowhere to put him. The bases were

676
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: loaded and just sent that gapper to which, by the way,

677
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: Sean Murphy was out at the plate. I know it

678
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: got reversed. I've never seen the umpires. The umpires particular

679
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 1: this year have been just all over the place. But

680
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: this was not real like it was a reviewable play.

681
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: Obviously he was called out on the field, which is

682
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: also so important.

683
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 2: It was incredibly nonchalant too when they reversed it.

684
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were just like, oh, yeah, it's overturned, it's overturned,

685
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: and he's he's safe. And I was like, first off,

686
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: if you look at the replays, for sure, wasn't undisputable

687
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,360
Speaker 1: indisputable is the word right, indisputable? I'm this indisputable indisputable.

688
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 1: It was not indisputable evidence that he was safe for sure?

689
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 2: Undisputable? Is this Skip Balas show?

690
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: Oh it's awful?

691
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's damn.

692
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 1: He got a skip Bayless and planted that into my

693
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 1: head despite never watching that show out. That's a shame.

694
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 1: Hate to give him free promo, although he really doesn't

695
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: need it. I'm sure everyoney watches this nose of it.

696
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, I want to give credit to

697
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: Nimo and McNeil because that was a phenomenal, phenomenal relay

698
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 1: for which at a great tag by Alvarez too, for

699
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: which Sean Murphy was called out on the field should

700
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 1: never been overturned. Was and all of a sudden, like

701
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: you said, the Mets are down three to two.

702
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 2: Yes, and yeah, he's just frustrating that again Miguil, who's

703
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 2: not a super effective as left he's anyway, like, I

704
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 2: don't know, it felt, it's just it was he was

705
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 2: like it was really just dragging into the finish line.

706
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 2: He had just such a close pitch against I think

707
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 2: it was Murphy right before his Ario on the outside

708
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 2: of that whole fastball.

709
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he went O two on him to I think,

710
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: and he went O two on he went two on

711
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 1: two guys and basically just could not get that pitch.

712
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: And with Murphy it felt like a pitch around. But

713
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: also if I could sneak a strike, I'd get it.

714
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: And he snuck one to make it three two, but

715
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: then couldn't get that strike three, which was like he said,

716
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: it was so close. But Sean Murphy, he's gonna be

717
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: a bet killer. He's gonna be a bet killer.

718
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 2: We know that. It's also it's gonna be a killer.

719
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 2: Like he's he's good, he's getting everybody out. He's crushing

720
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 2: the ball right now. It was ridiculous.

721
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 1: Always been good. He just played in Oakland, so no

722
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: one cares. But he's always been good. We've known it.

723
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: We've were die hard baseball fans. And then I know

724
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: the A's are your tea root for them to get.

725
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: To word's gonna be ward seat ball time. They're so

726
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 2: bad they're super rendit sitting Peter Luger's in October first

727
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 2: being like, was they thinking that's he's gonna hit different man,

728
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 2: That stick's gonna be so good. But at that moment,

729
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 2: like you said, we had the here we go again,

730
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 2: like it's the GTA meet.

731
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: Here we go again, like this is happening. But in

732
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: the same aspect, here we go again. With the Mets,

733
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: they did not say die. They did not give up.

734
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: This team called right.

735
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 2: Back, no, right back in a really big way. And

736
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: we talked about this the last game the Mets won

737
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 2: last Thursday against Washington Nationals, where they were just like simply,

738
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not gonna let this happen. There's no

739
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: way I'm gonna let this happen. And that inning was

740
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: really just s burned by the Similarly exactly, it's what

741
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 2: happened in the top of the ending. Charlie mooreon didn't

742
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 2: really seem to have his best stuff anyway. He was

743
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 2: throwing only curve balls. It felt like in this game

744
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 2: it was fifty percent of curve girls, curveball, Curveball'll get

745
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 2: the exact number actual right now because I'm on the

746
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 2: page anyway, by as well, but he just seemed like

747
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 2: they left him a snicker, left him in a little

748
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 2: too long. He walked fogie and then he walked handa

749
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 2: in this a very uncharacteristic walk where it was just

750
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: not like four straight pitches out of the strikes after

751
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,959
Speaker 2: a first pitch strike on of course curveball, and then

752
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: britt Baby comes up, who's been having just such an

753
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 2: unbelievable day, and you felt like something's gonna happen. He

754
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 2: put one, he didn't put a nice ride to the ball,

755
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: didn't get there, and no, that was a nice rideable

756
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 2: nice riding ball is a ninth th inning, Athan, This

757
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 2: was just lazy the flyball. So now you got two outs,

758
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, man, we really get these guys in. Really,

759
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 2: I get these guys in. And Francisco Alva's baby, he's

760
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 2: been coming around. He's really every single game so obvious

761
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: this guy's learning. And he is so young. I really

762
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 2: don't think that enough Mets fans, are even baseball fans

763
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: in general, appreciate how young Francisco al Forrez is.

764
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,719
Speaker 1: It was a great what watching the game. My mom

765
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: was watching the game with us. My mom was like, oh,

766
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: who's that new catch up? Like, that's Francisco Alvaz the prospect.

767
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: My mom was like, oh, he looks like owl does he?

768
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: He was like twenty one. She's like he does not

769
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: look twenty one like. He doesn't give off the vibes

770
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: of a young player either by any meats.

771
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 2: He's only three twenty one year olds in baseball right now,

772
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: since Shordan Walker was demoted by the Cardinals, as Alvarez,

773
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 2: Ezekiel Tovarr and Gunner Henderson, who are three of the

774
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 2: top fifteen prospects in all baseball. But the fact that

775
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: Fiscual Forres is twenty one year old catcher, it's it's

776
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: truly unprecedented what we're seeing right now. I got a

777
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: great tweet from a Friends of the Program recurring guest

778
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: Matt Eddie ether in Chief Baseball America, Frans Guialovaz. Right now,

779
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: he's about gonna be seemingly the starter ish catcher for

780
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: the Mets this year. Seems like he's almost done enough

781
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 2: to see like that. I could see it happening for

782
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 2: the rest Season's not based on Tworgia fifty play appearances.

783
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 2: Just twenty catchers since nineteen hundred, one hundred and twenty

784
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 2: three years ago have had at least two hundred fifty

785
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 2: played appearances in this season at age twenty one or

786
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 2: younger as twenty and one hundred and twenty three years.

787
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: The last one to do it was Pudge Rodriguez in

788
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety three.

789
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: It's a good name any one. What the other name

790
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: that I was gonna throw out there too of someone

791
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: who's definitely been a part of that Johnny bench. Yes,

792
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: something that we mentioned earlier too, had a little bit

793
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: of a rough start to his career, so as as

794
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: as rough as physical overs has looked at the play

795
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: so far, and there have been some bad games, some

796
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: bad weeks. We know that this is.

797
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 2: But since yes, the last week, it's really found away

798
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: that Home roof'saler Rodgerson was a big conference boost and

799
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: what we're seeing right now I was literally unpresented. There's

800
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 2: no statistical comp for the modern age of baseball for

801
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 2: a twenty or one year old catcher was playing this

802
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,479
Speaker 2: much baseball. And Alvarez came up there, he came up

803
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 2: hacking like he always loves to do. Second pitch was

804
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 2: a slyther that. I don't even know who this guy was,

805
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 2: Matt Tonkin. I'd never never heard his picture in my life.

806
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 2: Matt Tonkin, Michael Tonk, feel Tonkin, maybe he was Michael Man.

807
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: I think they were saying he might have been playing

808
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 2: for the Long Island Ducks at some point, like he

809
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: might have been an independent play guy, so it goes

810
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:23,719
Speaker 2: for him.

811
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, great for Glad Blad.

812
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 2: He got a hit, noonga slide the right of the

813
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 2: middle of to play and Oliver has just laced it

814
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 2: down the line. We got two runs out of it,

815
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 2: and you took the lead back and there is that

816
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 2: moment where like we cannot let this lead get away

817
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: and nope. Drew Smith comes into the game, who I

818
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 2: feel like we haven't seen in forever. So glad to

819
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: see Drew Smith back on the mound and he was.

820
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: Cash money as always.

821
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: Such a good year.

822
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: Drew Chains, Baby, we love Drew Chains, Drew Drew. What

823
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: do you say is the name that he went by

824
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: to Drew By Drew Boo? Drew Boo, Drew Boo. Yeah,

825
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: but Drew Chains, Drew Chains, but I got me a

826
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: few on He was absolutely cash money again. We also

827
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: got a little bit of insurance as well. Robertson came

828
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: in for the did a good job the first time through.

829
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: We also got that insurance from Jeff McNeil with that

830
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: late home run, which was big because justin swinging the

831
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: back Grady's completely back to like where he was last year,

832
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: hitting three hundred with an eight hundred ops and baby

833
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: almost hit another one that almost Yeah, he had hit.

834
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: It was the first hip ball of the entire game

835
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 2: of four hundred feet.

836
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: Dude, let's just talk about Bret Baty for like two seconds,

837
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: two minutes here.

838
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just so good. He's incredible.

839
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: He's really really good. I think all Mets fans, if

840
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: you've been watching these games now, you've been able to

841
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: see see the progression game after game after game, the comfortability.

842
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: You saw the home run against the lefty hit a

843
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,239
Speaker 1: double down the line earlier, he's had I think they

844
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: said he had a hit in like eight of his

845
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: last thirteen or twelve games, whatever it is.

846
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 2: He has six hard hit balls today and nine play

847
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: the appearances.

848
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: That's fantastic. The guy's a hard hit ball machine. You're

849
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: starting to see him lift the ball more too, which

850
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: is something that we didn't really get to see a

851
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: lot last year. A loud of balls hitting too the

852
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: ground and at the start when he got called up,

853
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: hitt into the ground. But his pitch recognition has been phenomenal.

854
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: He's been hitting the ball already's been hitting it too

855
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: all fields.

856
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 2: Brett Batty looks like that, dude, and so a play

857
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: that might have just again, we're just we're both freaks

858
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 2: of nature, like we just all you see things in

859
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 2: a baseball field and we'll just text each other something

860
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 2: that would look completely average. In the first inning, he

861
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: cut off a ball like in the hole and like

862
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 2: started the double play. We were like, oh my god,

863
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 2: that was so amazing, and it was.

864
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: And you it signals the confidence too, because that's a

865
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: play that if you're not confident as a rookie or

866
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: as a player just in general. Take away the fact

867
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: that he's a young rookie, twenty two year old cutting

868
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: off Francisco Indoor, an all star caliber shortstop. He's cutting

869
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: across the infield to make that play. That tells me

870
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: that Brett Baty's comfortable. He's just he's just playing baseball now,

871
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: and that's exactly what you want. When you look at

872
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: his numbers. Was he getting like three fifty with a

873
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: nine to thirty ops right now or something that was

874
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: after game one? At the end of the game two,

875
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: a game where he had again three hard hit balls,

876
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: one to the warning track, but still only went one

877
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: for four. Is hitting three thirty three with a nine

878
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: to nineteen ops. It's pretty good. No, it's that was.

879
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 2: Another thing too, could we kind of thought but didn't say,

880
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 2: I feel like going do the off season early part

881
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 2: of the season. That's there was like almost never a

882
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 2: concern the way a lot of other people were concerned

883
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 2: about this mess line up, because we knew the top

884
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 2: four were going to be strong and there was not

885
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 2: that much doubt. And we said this on air and

886
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 2: off air that like Alveraz and Baby were gonna come

887
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: up and there was tons of confidence they were gonna

888
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: play well. But again it wasn't it wasn't gonna be instant.

889
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 2: They were gonna hit the ground running probably, I mean

890
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 2: Baby technically kind of has. They took him seven games,

891
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: eight games to figure it out. But just knowing that

892
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: those two guys waiting in the wings, two of the

893
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 2: twenty best prospects in baseball, two guys who had shown

894
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: elite elite raw power, two guys whore showing great pitch

895
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 2: t regnition, two guys have shown great patience, two guys

896
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: have shown I don't say for their age, it seems

897
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: like kind of legitimately leadership qualities like just knowing that

898
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 2: we had those guys waiting in the wings, that was

899
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 2: the ace in the hole for this met's line. We

900
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 2: knew that was there, and that's that's I'm confidence the

901
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 2: line right now, especially with these two guys in the

902
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: bottom of us flipping it over and the issue just

903
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: again get to this. Pitching has to be good, but

904
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: big shout out to want to do extra shit. We

905
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 2: talked about him already, but Drew Smith's just getting the

906
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 2: last out after that Tyler mcgillinning and then coming back

907
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: for the shutdown inning after that. He has struggled with updowns,

908
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 2: a phrase that was very popular last year, a bit

909
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: early on his career. I guess early he's like what

910
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 2: thirty now, So I guess just as a suddenly as

911
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: a veteran lever Drew Smith, but cool as every single

912
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 2: inning against his praise, you're gonna face someone scary, so

913
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: really just cool and you know, maybe maybe a Chadwick

914
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 2: Trump by the nighthole and game too, but it's you're

915
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 2: always gonna see someone real in this braised lineup, and

916
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 2: it's very cool that Drew did that, and Dave Robberson

917
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: came in for the two outsave and we got this win.

918
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: Kind of fell like getting the monkey off our backs

919
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 2: and before just going out a little go going out

920
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 2: to Detroit for a few days, getting getting the big

921
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 2: boys back.

922
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, talking about uh, Chadwick Trump too. He scared us

923
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: a little bit with that ninth getting leadoff double Robertson.

924
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 2: That's why I said him his hands.

925
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, Chadwick Trump, by the way, electric name. Well that's

926
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: not a sick name. I don't know. I don't know

927
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: what it is. Gary was talking about it too on

928
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 1: the broadcast. He's like, sometimes you just you laugh a little,

929
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: your gable. You really enjoy selling someone's name. He's like,

930
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 1: Chadwick Trump is one of those. It's just a good name,

931
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: a great name.

932
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 2: But again it was very very in my again maybe

933
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 2: just for my own psyche, just for the weekend I've

934
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: had just whatever going on. Light for any of us here, Like,

935
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 2: it was really cool to see the Mets win this

936
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 2: game today.

937
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: It was yes, really needed it.

938
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 2: Which when Alvers hit that double, I like started like

939
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 2: banging on the wall. I was so excited.

940
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Me and my dad were sitting next to

941
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,479
Speaker 1: each other on the couch and it was like col

942
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: that's the boy there.

943
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 2: He is Francisco.

944
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: Finally, remember, don't call him that nickname. That's horrible. Don't

945
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: call him that Francisco al troll. We don't need to

946
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,959
Speaker 1: give him the horrible nickname them seeing circulate more on Twitter.

947
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: I'm not happy about it. You know what, the nick name,

948
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna say it because I don't want

949
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: to push it any further.

950
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 2: Actually never see this goes well.

951
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: I don't think you follow those people, but I.

952
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 2: Don't follow whether it's on Twitter.

953
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: But yeah, let's just call him Francisco Alvarez ol troll.

954
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: He's a generational talent. Let's make sure we give him

955
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: the respect that he deserves. Big hit and he was pumped,

956
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: which was great, and he got his Was that his

957
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: first ALF postgame interview? I think it might have been

958
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: shout out to Alahan as well doing the interview on

959
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: there on the field of course.

960
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: Then yeah, every single day, these guys are getting more

961
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: comfortable and Kyle, that's is growing. It's May first, while

962
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,439
Speaker 2: we're recording this May second with Hope leading guys listening

963
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 2: to this, there is so much more baseball we played

964
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 2: this year. We've played twenty nine games. I literally did

965
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 2: the match. If we were an NFL team, we'd be

966
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 2: in the beginning of the fourth quarter of Week three.

967
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: There was a funny tweet I think that went out

968
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 1: on Friday after we lost to the Braves from Anthony

969
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: Dicomo and granted these like the pace record, the pace

970
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: stats are stupid. Yeah, But like again, Mets fans, we're

971
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: a little rational at times, maybe maybe a little quick

972
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: to judge. And you would think the season was over

973
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: after losing on Friday, after losing game one today, But

974
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: after Friday, I think the Mets one sixty two game

975
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: pace was still ninety two and seven, which is kind

976
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: of funny to say out loud. It's like a season's over,

977
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 1: We're only gonna win ninety two games.

978
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 2: So much baseball we play, we're talking about before you guys,

979
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 2: remember twenty fifteen, how bad the Mets were in April,

980
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 2: May and June.

981
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: Remember remember when Wilmer Flores was crying on the field

982
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: because it all got traded. And then they blew that

983
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: game against the Padres in the rain the next day,

984
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 1: and it was just like, oh, the season's really over.

985
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: What are we gonna do? And then Cespinas came. You're like,

986
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: baseball is long. I mean, not to rub salt in

987
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: our wounds, but we were in control pretty much all

988
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: last year and then all of a sudden it got

989
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,760
Speaker 1: swept out right from under us. It's a long season.

990
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 1: It's not about how you starts, about how you finish,

991
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: and if you finish hot, got a chance to make

992
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: some noise.

993
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 2: It's just again, it's like, this would be the fourth

994
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 2: coreter of Week three if we were in an NFL season,

995
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 2: marcual I only did that with sixteen game schedule. For

996
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 2: the seventeen game schedule, they'll probably be the first half

997
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 2: of the Week three. Yeah, oh, this is there's so

998
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: much baseball. There's so much baseball left. It's ridiculous how

999
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: much baseball is left. And the fact that these guys

1000
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 2: are getting these reps now and we still have gotten

1001
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 2: combined this season. I'll get the number in a moment,

1002
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 2: because it's gonna be really funny when I say it

1003
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: out loud, combined nineteen innings that the Max Schurz are

1004
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 2: and Justin Verlander the first month of the season, and

1005
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 2: this team is even still above five hundred. You're like, okay,

1006
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 2: let's just play some ball.

1007
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: It's it's almost like everything that could have gotten wrong

1008
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: did for a little bit.

1009
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and with he has tore of his knee and

1010
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 2: the World Baseball Classic like this, like like a lot

1011
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 2: of baseball left here.

1012
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: A lot of baseball left here. Speaking of which, we

1013
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: have the series coming up against the Tigers, which means

1014
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: it's now time to do the estimate. And then the

1015
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: series preview. Last one was for total innings played. I

1016
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 1: was actually even higher than what totally played because we've

1017
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: got a five inning game. But I am the victor,

1018
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: so I think it's now four to three.

1019
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 2: I think, so I have three.

1020
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: John is not her so keeper. Yeah, it's maybe maybe

1021
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: not all the conversation about whatever nonsense he's got.

1022
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna come on and say something quick. But first,

1023
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 2: here's fourteen minutes on something you don't care about. We

1024
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: love you, John, don't take it. Don't take it personally.

1025
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 2: John by shows and he's not on that.

1026
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: You think, what do we think? That's could be our bet?

1027
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: Let's say test. Yeah, this could be the test. This

1028
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: would be a test. If job listens, we'll see if

1029
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: we get a text from him tomorrow.

1030
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: John, if you listen to this podcast, text us Papaya, Yeah,

1031
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 2: Papaya hiding to shoot as the text papaya.

1032
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: If not, we know you didn't listen, but regardless, we

1033
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: have the estimate to go here. John texted me the estimate.

1034
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 1: He said, estimate is total case by Verlinder and Scherzer

1035
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: in Detroit because as we know, they're both back and

1036
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: they're both pitching against their former team in Detroit, which

1037
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: is also just weird coincidence. So take a prediction here,

1038
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: what you think these guys are gonna do. Detroit Tigers

1039
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: lineup we know is not good. I think I can

1040
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 1: really feel confidence saying that it's not a good lineup.

1041
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 2: It's not good, but I'm pretty sure they make a

1042
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 2: lot of contact in a weird way, and double check

1043
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 2: makes sense. Third highest tracker right in the league, okay, love,

1044
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: third high strikeout right in the league. With guys who

1045
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 2: strike out batters, this is gonna be a phone one, James,

1046
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 2: for these two. You gotta consider how many innings Verlanders

1047
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 2: even gonna throw two in his first start of the year.

1048
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 2: Sures are coming back after missing some games with the suspension.

1049
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna write down a nice number here. I'm gonna

1050
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: write down a good number that I feel I feel

1051
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 2: confident about one too.

1052
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: Ever, got my number good?

1053
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, remember they got mine two? All right.

1054
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: Remember we gotta say it aullowed too for the people

1055
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: at home, because most people listen to this podcast, So

1056
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: of course we've we've definitely forgot to say it allowed before.

1057
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: So three to one showing it. I've got twelve, James

1058
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: got fifteen.

1059
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1060
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: Wow, we have an odd difference. That means there cannot

1061
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: be a tie unless somehow we find a way to

1062
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: get half a strikeout, which I don't think is gonna happen.

1063
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 2: No, the opposite, there's not a difference, so we can tie.

1064
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:53,479
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1065
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we can't tie. We can't tie.

1066
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: You can't tie.

1067
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, nice time.

1068
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: I'm a numbers guy, numbers guy twelve and fifty. Well,

1069
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: just because I figure I'm going conservative, Like, give me

1070
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: a strikeout an inning and we're gonna get twelve anxieties.

1071
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 2: The only reason I was going I wanted to go

1072
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: conservative under you. I honestly figured you go shoot for

1073
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 2: the moon, because that's kind of been your whole moniker

1074
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 2: with what's out of the estimates so far the season.

1075
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 2: Is because I am worried there's just more rain in

1076
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 2: the forecast, and we don't have we don't have in Detroit.

1077
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 2: I mean it's just rain in New York. I mean

1078
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 2: usually ran Detroit comes a day before the weather in

1079
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 2: New York. I guess I.

1080
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: Don't know of what I heard on the broadcast today

1081
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: was it's just gonna be a little bit cold, which

1082
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,479
Speaker 1: brings us into the series preview here that it's gonna

1083
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: be about I don't know, James, want to get trip

1084
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: to Detroit.

1085
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 2: Maybe tomorrow or if you want to go or they

1086
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 2: on ACU either right now?

1087
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you got for us? Because I heard

1088
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 1: it's gonna be about forty degrees maybe dropping into the thirties,

1089
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: which goes guys.

1090
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: Cool.

1091
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 1: Love that we get to visit Detroit in May.

1092
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 2: That's cool.

1093
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: Couldn't play that team in August, I know, you know,

1094
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: I know all of that.

1095
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: Sure, I know all about Midwest Mays. They're not that

1096
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,720
Speaker 2: much fun. But yeah, Troit Monday colder with a shower

1097
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 2: or too high of forty two ends today Tuesday, Tuesday, Yeah,

1098
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 2: the game one of the series, and that's that'll be

1099
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 2: the eighty percent chance of rain and then Wednesday warmer

1100
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 2: with showers in the afternoon said high fifty six, low

1101
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: forty two. So I wanted to go conservative because I

1102
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: did think there was a chance, with these two lined

1103
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: up to pitch on the second of the second and

1104
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 2: third game of the series, that might miss one of

1105
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 2: them again, all right, so I'm going to low with twelve.

1106
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: There you went with fifteen. We'll obviously check back and

1107
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: see pitching matchups. We talked about it already with Scherzer Verlander,

1108
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: but let's just go through them all again one time

1109
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: for us James with as well as who the Tigers

1110
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: are rolling, because oh this, see this, If we were

1111
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: in person, this would have been the fun game to play.

1112
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: Can you name players on the Tigers? I can game

1113
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: a few.

1114
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 2: Players and the Tigers just from playing in you know,

1115
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 2: fifty to fifteen versus fantasy baseball leagues. But our pitching

1116
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: matchups are going to be Joey Lucazy versus Michael Lorenzen,

1117
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 2: then Max Schurzer versus Joey Wentz, and then Thursday Mattine

1118
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 2: Justin Verlander Versusuilo Rodriguez. And also for all the Mets

1119
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: fans at home, keep in mind the start times for

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00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: Tuesday Wednesday are six to forty eastern.

1121
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:08,479
Speaker 1: Is Detroit an hour behind. I can't six forty eastern,

1122
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: then it will be a five forty start.

1123
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 2: That Chicago's basically where the central times of stars in

1124
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 2: Detroit East Chicago.

1125
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, so it's gonna be six forty. I like,

1126
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: I love a six forty time star, especially with the

1127
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: nas new baseball and how quick it feels. These game

1128
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: has been great, by the way. Love sure these games move.

1129
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: Although the Mets really find a way to play a

1130
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 1: three hour game every time they're at City Field.

1131
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 2: I don't know how they do it every single time.

1132
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: But we should talk a little bit about these guys.

1133
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 2: The only pitcher I have something even kind of interesting

1134
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 2: about I would say probably is Joey Wentz.

1135
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: Oh really, I thought it was gonna be you, Rod.

1136
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like people know we're Rod. He's

1137
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 2: he's got, he's got the sinker. He's just good. He's

1138
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 2: been good. Father, he's been good this year. Good this year.

1139
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 2: But Joey Wentz was something of a prospect a few

1140
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 2: years ago. I have all this entire cohort of Tiger's

1141
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 2: big pitching prospects. He was by far the least critically

1142
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 2: acclaimed between him, Matt Manning, Tyry Schoolball, Casey Mies, and

1143
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 2: he's the only one who's actually giving real innings for

1144
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 2: the major league team. They've not been very good innings.

1145
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: The area is almost seven and as website one one

1146
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 2: point three. But this look a good curveball that he

1147
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 2: never really throws. It's a lot of four seemers and colors,

1148
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 2: which weirdly look kind of similar. Because for Seemer has

1149
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 2: some weird arm side run. I'd like to hit him,

1150
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 2: but he does have a nice curveball I like lost.

1151
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 2: He's one of the most esthetically pleasing pitches you'll see

1152
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 2: in Detroit this week. On the offensive side, too, we're

1153
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: gonna run into a former New York met great big

1154
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 2: trade bedline acquisition, Hobby Bias, of course famously from the

1155
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: Trevor Williams trade, so it'll be nice to see Hobby again.

1156
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 2: He's actually been swinging the bat well after getting benched

1157
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 2: for not knowing how many outs there were by A. J.

1158
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 2: Hinch when they were in Toronto, but since then he

1159
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 2: has played a lot better. Of that being said, if

1160
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 2: he sees a strike that's a problem. Just throwing balls,

1161
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 2: he will swing.

1162
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: There's just look up Hobby Bias swinging at balls and

1163
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: you'll find videos of him having some of the least

1164
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: competitive at bats I've ever seen in a.

1165
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 2: Baseball And there's something that Hobby Bias hasn't done yet

1166
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 2: this season. I'm not gonna say it because I don't

1167
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: want to. Yeah, yeah, I'm just saying something that he

1168
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: hasn't done yet. That's something he usually does, like something

1169
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 2: to somewhat of lots. If you guys just look at

1170
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,959
Speaker 2: his season stats, you'll see if there's just something Hobby

1171
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 2: Bias hasn't hasn't done. Also, want to shout out of

1172
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: the Michael Lorenzen who can transition from being relievered to

1173
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 2: a star the a few years ago coming from the Reds.

1174
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 2: He was like a bit of a two way player

1175
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 2: before too, which is kind of fun. He's a great athlete,

1176
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 2: can hit a little bait playing outfield, he can run.

1177
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 2: He throws seven pitches with consistency. Really it's heaven. Yeah,

1178
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 2: most of starts this year he's prone all seven of

1179
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 2: his pitches, so that I make it not very good,

1180
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: but it's a it's a fun it's a fun wrinkle.

1181
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: Are you facing him?

1182
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: Yeah? I just said he's facing tomorrow. Oh tonight.

1183
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,959
Speaker 1: I don't know why I thought you were saying, Matthew Boyd.

1184
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: I didn't even hear Michael Lorenzon out there. Yeah. Well,

1185
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: and okay, I got a question for you. I got

1186
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: a Tiger's fan friend fan, and I have a bullpen.

1187
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: He's been telling me about Jason Foley. Jason Foley, You

1188
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: know anything about this guy? Yeah?

1189
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 2: Nothing, not Jason Folly. Let men check him now.

1190
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I know you're the pitching whisperer, and he's

1191
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: been telling me he's straight upset, asked James about Jason Foley.

1192
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, this guy's got something. I'd love to

1193
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: hear your take on it.

1194
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 2: Uh.

1195
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: He is a Bias Tiger's fan, Bason.

1196
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 2: What I'm seeing right now is just the fact that

1197
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 2: he has like one of those good, good hard sliders,

1198
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: upper nineties fastball, really really good extensions seem like, but

1199
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 2: he's not getting a lot of the swings and misses. Yeah, okay,

1200
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 2: that's interesting, so maybe that is Oh okay, they're sinkers. Okay,

1201
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 2: that's interesting now, not fastballs, but all looks like his

1202
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 2: command is a little bit shoddy. But I definitely see

1203
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 2: definitely see the vision here for sure. Yeah, on the

1204
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: offensive side. Some other names to quickly mention too, Spencer Torkelsen,

1205
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 2: former number one overall pick I still hits the ball hard.

1206
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: It's just a Detroit So you're not gonna see a

1207
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: lot of power in that stadium because it's just so

1208
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: absolutely massive. They you know, it brought defences in right,

1209
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 1: and it's still absolutely massive. I think it's playing a

1210
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: little bit more neutral this year. Still just an issue

1211
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: with it. Might be them, Okay, maybe it's them. Nick

1212
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: Mayton's the name that you've seen around a bunch because

1213
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: he's been with the Phillies along with Matt Vierling. Riley

1214
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: Green is another one of their former top prospects that

1215
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: has been a little bit underwhelming thus far. And of course,

1216
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: this will be probably the last time that Miguel Cabrera

1217
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: ever plays the New York Mets. So if you just

1218
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: respect the game of baseball, even if you're maybe not

1219
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: a diehard Met fan or Tigers fan, should be watching

1220
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: this one because, I mean, this could be one of

1221
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: the last times as a Met fan you watch Micgal

1222
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: Cobrera play, and he's obviously one of the greats. Am

1223
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: I wrong or is he in the il No. No,

1224
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: I think he's playing. I think he's just bas having

1225
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: a really bad season because he's he's he's old, he's

1226
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: forty years old, and the power is for sure not there.

1227
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: He can still he can get you a single. Let

1228
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: me tell you that guy can still hit a single

1229
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: through the hole. But the power, that's what goes with age.

1230
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: Still one of the greats. Three thousand, it's five hundred

1231
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: home runs.

1232
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 2: I don't think it's talked about enough that Miguel Cabrera

1233
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 2: when he was like in his hey day, he was

1234
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 2: just the biggest prankster ever. Like you would watch him

1235
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 2: on a baseball field and he would like be screwing

1236
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 2: with guys like the catcher, the first basement and second baseman,

1237
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 2: like go go, I got TikToker YouTube five cut compilation

1238
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 2: of Migul Cabert like doing weird things in the baseball field.

1239
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: Dude, how about when he hit a home run off

1240
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: intentional walk pitch from Roder Clemmons. Roger clems was trying

1241
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: to intentionally walk him and he just crushed it for

1242
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: a home run. Like one of the great talents that

1243
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: have at least played in our lifetimes. So for sure,

1244
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: gonna watch his bats whenever he gets there Hall of Famer.

1245
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 1: But I hope he goes over. That would be great.

1246
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 2: That would be great. And this is when Met's have

1247
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 2: a stretch right now where they're gonna be playing three

1248
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 2: series against the Tigers, the Rockies Force Race series.

1249
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna have Tigers, Rockies, Reds Nashal. I forgot

1250
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: about the Reds one right, red Jos Reds. But I

1251
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: will caution Mets fans not to, you know, not to

1252
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: be like whatever's no game of all this or what

1253
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 1: they're gonna do right now. And someone actually specifically asked

1254
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: Buck about this post game today and he said it's real,

1255
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: there's real dangerous and thinking like that, and I do

1256
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 1: agree with him. You cannot think you're really necessarily bad

1257
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 1: than any other team. I should win this game because

1258
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: they're bad, and I'm good that you should never do

1259
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: however we should. I would like to see the team

1260
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: play well, yes, and if the team does play well,

1261
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: they will win. That is a fact. I think we

1262
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: can say that.

1263
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: Also, I've been watching some videos this guy Jason Foley,

1264
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 2: that sinker is demonic.

1265
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, that's good that I'll set back to my

1266
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 1: tiger's friend and he's rocking at seventy percent ground ball

1267
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: righty right now, which I've never seen before. That's that's

1268
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: interesting in America of all places to be a yeah, right,

1269
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 1: just throw a bunch of ground pass so seems kind

1270
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: of seems kind of boyless. But whatever, We've we've now

1271
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: been going about forty five minutes on this episode, one

1272
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: that we thought was gonna be quick. We gotta watch

1273
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: this Rangers game. I don't even know what the score is.

1274
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 2: Zero zero intermission.

1275
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so we're getting back or getting done here

1276
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: right at the perfect time. Thank you guys so much

1277
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: for listening and watching this episode of the Mess Up Podcast.

1278
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 1: Just one quick little thing, shout out to my grandma Yaya.

1279
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 1: She was a big listener of the podcast. Pass away

1280
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: this a few days ago, had the funeral and stuff

1281
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: this weekend. So shout out Yaya listening mess Up listener.

1282
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: Even though she knows nothing about English whatsoever and has

1283
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: no clue what's going on, but she was a huge

1284
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: Mets fans. Shout out to her, and uh yeah, I

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Speaker 1: Follow me at Traffneckmark with us see thank you guys

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Speaker 1: for listening and watching, and we'll catch you on the

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Speaker 1: next episode. After the Tigers series peace out said, see

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Speaker 1: you guys next time.