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<v Speaker 1>week Laura may Martin. She is Google's executive productivity advisor

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<v Speaker 1>and author of a new book called Uptime, a Practical

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<v Speaker 1>also that well being aspect as well. Then we've got

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<v Speaker 1>Dan O'Dowd of the Dawn Project. He's going to explain

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<v Speaker 1>why Tesla's full self driving software isn't ready for the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>scam callers to waste their time. She'll offer tips on

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<v Speaker 1>how to stay safe from these people. So this week

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<v Speaker 1>I've been having the Tesla self driving software drive me around.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason for that, and the reason I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>about this is because Tesla recently slashed the price of

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<v Speaker 1>its self driving software. So it used to be something

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<v Speaker 1>in the range of about ten to twelve thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>if you bought it out right, but if you wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to subscribe monthly, it'd be something like two hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>But now it is just one hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>And I say just one hundred, I still think that's

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<v Speaker 1>too expensive, but I have been testing it out.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a sort of hit or miss.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good when it works, scary when it doesn't work,

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<v Speaker 1>and it does do some odd things.

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<v Speaker 2>Now just to give you some background.

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<v Speaker 1>The first time I got into a self driving car

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<v Speaker 1>was in twenty twelve Tokyo, Japan. I remember this. I

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<v Speaker 1>was very scared because even though we were only doing

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<v Speaker 1>a small circular loop in this Nissan, it had a

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<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of computers in the backseat. We did have

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<v Speaker 1>a safety engineer in the driver's seat to take over

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<v Speaker 1>if something went wrong, but it was a very odd

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<v Speaker 1>feeling to give up control of that car for the

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<v Speaker 1>very first time. So there are five levels of autonomous driving.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me explain. Level zero, no automation. The drivers in

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<v Speaker 1>full control of the vehicle at all times. That's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much what ninety nine percent of the time most of

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<v Speaker 1>us are doing, right, we're driving the car. Level one

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<v Speaker 1>driver assistance. The vehicle can assist with some functions like

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<v Speaker 1>steering or accelerating, but you must remain in full control.

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<v Speaker 1>Level two partial automation. The vehicle can control both steering

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<v Speaker 1>and accelerating and braking in certain situations, but you must

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<v Speaker 1>remain alert and ready to take control. Level three conditional automation.

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<v Speaker 1>The vehicle can handle most driving tasks under certain conditions,

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<v Speaker 1>but the driver must be ready to take control when requested.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say maybe the Tesla is at level three

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<v Speaker 1>conditional automation. Then you've got level four, which is high automation,

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<v Speaker 1>and level five full automation, so the vehicle can handle

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<v Speaker 1>all driving tasks without any human intervention. Level five there's

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<v Speaker 1>not even a steering wheel or brake pedals. And yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there are some companies doing that right away or right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I should say, so where do we stand with Tesla?

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<v Speaker 1>So this is where it gets confusing because they call

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<v Speaker 1>it autopilot, and they also call it full self driving

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<v Speaker 1>at the highest level, and so people think that is

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<v Speaker 1>a level four high automation, the car can do whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it needs to do without human interaction.

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<v Speaker 2>That is just not true.

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<v Speaker 1>And having used this new full self driving supervised, which

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<v Speaker 1>they've added that word supervised to the self driving, it's

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<v Speaker 1>because people were getting too they were giving too much

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<v Speaker 1>trust to the Tesla, and that's how accidents happen. That's

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<v Speaker 1>how issues happen. So in the Tesla, let me just

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<v Speaker 1>give you my quick review. In the autopilot cruise control,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of cars have. This is traffic aware cruise control,

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<v Speaker 1>which it just basically matches your vehicle speed to the

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<v Speaker 1>surrounding traffic. That's pretty simple. Auto steer. It can help

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<v Speaker 1>steer into different lanes or marked lanes using traffic aware

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<v Speaker 1>cruise control. So that means your car I always say,

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<v Speaker 1>this is kind of like the basics. You put on

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<v Speaker 1>cruise control, your car stays in the lane. It also

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<v Speaker 1>stays at a good speed from the car in front

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<v Speaker 1>of you. That's pretty basic. Many cars today have that.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you've got enhanced autopilot. You can navigate, which means

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<v Speaker 1>the vehicle can go from on ramp to off ramps,

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<v Speaker 1>suggests lane changes, navigate interchanges, turns on the turn signals,

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<v Speaker 1>takes the correct exit. It will change lanes on the highway.

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<v Speaker 1>It can auto park, which I feel like that is

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<v Speaker 1>a very good feature. If you don't like parking, that

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<v Speaker 1>might be worth the one hundred dollars. This I have

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<v Speaker 1>not really tried, but it moves the vehicle in and

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<v Speaker 1>out of tight spaces using the mobile app or the key.

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<v Speaker 2>That's kind of weird.

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<v Speaker 1>And then smart someone will find you in a parking

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<v Speaker 1>lot so you can know your car will come to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I have not tried that yet.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the full self driving includes autopilot and enhanced autopilot.

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<v Speaker 1>It can auto steer on city streets. Yes, I've tried that.

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<v Speaker 1>And it has the traffic stop sign control, so it

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<v Speaker 1>knows when the stop signs are there, it knows when

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<v Speaker 1>the traffic lights change. So it's pretty good at doing

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<v Speaker 1>these things. Is it perfect?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have to remain in control at all times

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<v Speaker 1>and very aware at all times?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that Tesla has done a really cool thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But we have to be very careful in understanding that

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<v Speaker 1>this is not full autonomous driving. So it's a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more stressful in certain aspects because you're either in

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<v Speaker 1>control of the car or you're not.

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<v Speaker 2>In this case, you're in some sort of in between world.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I figured i'd go over some of the other

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<v Speaker 1>companies because this is an inevitability. This is going to

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<v Speaker 1>happen on almost every car. Are you still going to

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<v Speaker 1>have the opportunity to drive your own car? Probably, But

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<v Speaker 1>every major car company is working on some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>level of autonomous driving. Ford has something called Blue Crews.

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<v Speaker 1>This is hands free highway driving available on some of

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<v Speaker 1>their cars. Reduces stress, they say, allows you to connect

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<v Speaker 1>with passengers and enjoy the scenery. It works on most

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<v Speaker 1>highways in the US and some newer versions of this

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<v Speaker 1>software have lane changing and also repositioning, so that's Ford

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<v Speaker 1>Blue Cruise. Then you've got Chevy Super Cruise. This is

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<v Speaker 1>from GM. This is hands free driver assistance technology. It

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<v Speaker 1>uses GPS, cameras and maps to automatically steer on compatible roads.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the key here. They have gone out and they

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<v Speaker 1>have somehow mapped these roads to make them compatible with

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<v Speaker 1>the supercrews. It works with adaptive cruise control, so it

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<v Speaker 1>works really nicely in stop and go traffic. It requires

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<v Speaker 1>your driver's attention and remaining alert, but you can take

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<v Speaker 1>your hands off the wheel. I have tested that it

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<v Speaker 1>works pretty well. I feel pretty confident about that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Toyota, they've got their Ciana minivan. They've got Autano Moss,

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<v Speaker 1>which combines autonomous driving with mobility as a service. So

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<v Speaker 1>they're testing this out with the Ciana minivan and they're

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<v Speaker 1>thinking that this might be used in an application like

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<v Speaker 1>ride sharing. But that's what Toyota has right now. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't really have an autonomous as far as I can tell,

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<v Speaker 1>consumer facing product. Now, Honda, they have hands free highway

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<v Speaker 1>driving technology called Honda Sensing. They're going to introduce this

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<v Speaker 1>in the US by the end of the decade. This

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<v Speaker 1>will be available as an upgrade called Honda Sensing three sixty,

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<v Speaker 1>which has automatic lane changes, and that will become standard

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<v Speaker 1>on all Honda vehicles by twenty thirty. It aims to

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<v Speaker 1>launch level four capable self driving cars by twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember level four high automation. That means it can do

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of tasks without human intervention, but it will

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<v Speaker 1>still have the driver's steering wheel and the control so

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<v Speaker 1>that'll be something inside the standard car. BMW says they've

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<v Speaker 1>been working on autonomous driving since nineteen nineties with the

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<v Speaker 1>goal of making self driving cars a reality. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>they only have up to level two, but they do

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<v Speaker 1>have plans to introduce higher levels of automation in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>Volkswagen testing first auton miss driving in Austin, Texas. This

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<v Speaker 1>will be starting This started last year ten all electric

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<v Speaker 1>ID buzz vehicles equipped with autonomous driving tech developed by

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<v Speaker 1>Volkswagen and Mobile Eye. Over the next three years, they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to test this in more cities, aiming for a

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<v Speaker 1>commercial launch of autonomous vehicles in Austin by twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you've got Nissan and I have tested this pro

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<v Speaker 1>Pilot Assist. This is a driver assistance program that combines

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<v Speaker 1>adaptive cruise control in lane centering to help you maintain

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<v Speaker 1>a set speed and keeping the vehicle in the lane.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually tested this a couple of years ago and

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<v Speaker 1>driving back from Las Vegas. This must have been eight

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<v Speaker 1>years ago or something, a very early version of this,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was pretty incredible because it was the first

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<v Speaker 1>time that I tried the cruise control and the ability

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<v Speaker 1>to stay in the lane. So it pretty much was

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's very simple now, like a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>cars do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you've got Weaimo.

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<v Speaker 1>Waimo has Weimo Driver and this can navigate roads, which

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<v Speaker 1>it's doing already in a couple cities including Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>And this relies on highly detailed maps, all kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>sensors including LDAR, cameras and radar, plus advanced software to

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<v Speaker 1>predict the behavior of other road drivers to make the

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<v Speaker 1>safest route. They've driven this on tens of millions of

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<v Speaker 1>public roads, billions of miles in simulation, and yes, that's

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<v Speaker 1>happening on La streets, just not on the freeway. Then

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<v Speaker 1>you've got Zeokes. This is Amazon's autonomous driving technology. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw this car at CS and this is fully a

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<v Speaker 1>car that was created from start to finish to have

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<v Speaker 1>no driver inside whatsoever. So when you get inside this car,

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost like a little box and it has no

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<v Speaker 1>steering wheel and no controls for drivers or passengers. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's being controlled by software. And the interesting thing here

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<v Speaker 1>is that you're using teleguidance, so someone can tap in

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<v Speaker 1>and remotely monitor this car. And if there's some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of odd situation where you need to human to interact

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<v Speaker 1>or I guess take over the driving of the car,

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<v Speaker 1>the human can do that. The other thing about the

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<v Speaker 1>zookes it can drive forward or backwards. The car is

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<v Speaker 1>built the same way on both sides so that it

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<v Speaker 1>can drive either direction. So again that's kind of forward thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>This is happening. The autonomous cars are happening right now. Tesla,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, is pretty much in the lead with the

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<v Speaker 1>what they're doing for the average consumer, but every major

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<v Speaker 1>car company has got their hands in this. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>But first we'll take some of your calls.

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<v Speaker 1>Triple eight rich one on one eight eight eight seven

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<v Speaker 1>four to two four one zero one. My name is

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<v Speaker 1>Rich Dmiro. You are listening to Rich on Tech. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to Rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out

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<v Speaker 2>To two for one zero one.

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<v Speaker 1>So go to Steve in Los Angeles with a comment

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<v Speaker 1>about the self driving cars.

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<v Speaker 2>Steve, you're on with Rich.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I work with veterans and a big problem is

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<v Speaker 4>they a lot of times they have to cancel their appointments,

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<v Speaker 4>their doctors appointment because they did they have transportation and

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<v Speaker 4>the ride services are very unreliable. And I was also

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<v Speaker 4>thinking of our seniors, you know, who tent drive any more.

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<v Speaker 4>So if somehow these big companies are someone, could you know,

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<v Speaker 4>donate car because they're not gonna be able to afford

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<v Speaker 4>to buy a self driving car. But that's a big

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<v Speaker 4>problem with our veterans is getting transportation or not being

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<v Speaker 4>able to driving inhabit to cancel their appointments.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is actually I didn't mention this in my

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<v Speaker 1>initial talking about these self driving cars. There's another aspect

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<v Speaker 1>and that's a way moo, and this is accessibility and

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<v Speaker 1>Waimo is a huge proponent of this. Uh, people with disabilities,

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<v Speaker 1>limited site, limited movement. Uh, there are these cars will

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<v Speaker 1>be a huge, huge win for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well they don't.

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<v Speaker 1>They won't need to because with something like way Mow,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll be able to just to just hail it, so

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be able to just get.

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<v Speaker 5>It to pick you up.

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<v Speaker 1>And so now Uber and some of these companies they

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<v Speaker 1>do have like an accessibility where you can hail like

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<v Speaker 1>an accessibility version of that car where you may have

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<v Speaker 1>assistance you have a wheelchair or something like that. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think the next level of especially for someone who

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<v Speaker 1>has a vision issue or hearing issue or any sort

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<v Speaker 1>of limited mobility, these things could really be a huge win.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because I had one. I had one veteran who

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<v Speaker 4>the Uber that came for him couldn't accommodate like his

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<v Speaker 4>his device or whatever the thing is the only other

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<v Speaker 4>thing I was saying because I thought like if I

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<v Speaker 4>won the lottery or whatever, man I start my own

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<v Speaker 4>right service to give veterans right. And then I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 4>the reason why that probably has been done is because

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<v Speaker 4>all these billboards you see around will fight for you

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<v Speaker 4>have you been injured. It's like this is why your

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<v Speaker 4>insurance rates is so high, so they'd probably be you know,

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<v Speaker 4>litigated out of business.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's definitely an issue. And I think that obviously

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<v Speaker 1>we need to take care of our elderly, We need

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<v Speaker 1>to take care of our veterans who you know, have

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<v Speaker 1>fought for this country. So I think that's a big

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<v Speaker 1>area of it. And I think that it's just something

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<v Speaker 1>that technology will continue to improve people who are you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in these positions that you know, it's just a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit different than than everyone else out there. So Steve,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for the comment. Appreciate that. Good good point. There,

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<v Speaker 1>really good point. Let's go to Rick in Manhattan Beach. Rick,

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<v Speaker 1>you're on with Rich.

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<v Speaker 6>I have an old iPhone shuffle and I usually go

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<v Speaker 6>on iTunes or I used to go on iTunes download music,

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<v Speaker 6>but now I can do that. So is there an

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<v Speaker 6>half or anything that I can use to downlo music

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<v Speaker 6>because the shuffle I used and used for swimming at

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<v Speaker 6>the waterproof. I linked the shuffle about four or five

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<v Speaker 6>years old.

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<v Speaker 3>So four years old, yeah, kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to say it may be older than is.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone was telling me that the iPod shuffle it was

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<v Speaker 1>like a secret that it's like it's water resistant or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that true?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I got some company. I bought it online. I

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<v Speaker 6>guess they buy them in a retrofit them to make

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<v Speaker 6>them water resistant. So yeah, it's great for swimming, for

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<v Speaker 6>doing labs. So any suggestions at all.

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<v Speaker 1>The program I know is called Walter Pro, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure there's other ways of doing this, but the one

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<v Speaker 1>that I know that's pretty easy for drag and drop

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<v Speaker 1>is Walter w A l t R pro And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the kr Wa LTR pro and it says

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<v Speaker 1>it supports iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch all generations, iPod Classic, Nano,

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<v Speaker 1>and Shuffle all generations.

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<v Speaker 2>And so this is a paid app.

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<v Speaker 1>But as far as I remember using this app, you

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<v Speaker 1>literally just drag and drop the files onto the app

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<v Speaker 1>once you connect your device, and it puts them into

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<v Speaker 1>the right place on that app. So it's been a

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<v Speaker 1>bit since I used it, but it looks like it's

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<v Speaker 1>still up to date. It's uh thirty five bucks for

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<v Speaker 1>the year. So and I like this company, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking for like an alternative to that. There's probably some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of open source device that can do or software

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<v Speaker 1>that can do this as well. But when you connect

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<v Speaker 1>it to iTunes, it's not supported anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the deal?

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<v Speaker 7>No, No, it's not interesting.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, well I would plug it in, you know, with

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<v Speaker 6>the actually the cord.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And the other thing.

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<v Speaker 1>The other question people always have is they're wondering, how

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<v Speaker 1>do I get the music off my iPod? Because Apple

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<v Speaker 1>kind of made them a one way street. And I

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<v Speaker 1>guess that was for a reason back in the day,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was much more like loading stuff onto them.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like the sinc never really worked that

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<v Speaker 1>well with these things. It went there and then like

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<v Speaker 1>people were just very confused about it. But check out

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<v Speaker 1>walter Wa lt R Pro and I'll look in the

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<v Speaker 1>commercial and see if there's any if there's any sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like open source alternative to that program that may

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<v Speaker 1>be free.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think that's your best bet for right now.

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<v Speaker 2>And try it. You could try it out.

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<v Speaker 1>You can download it to try it, see if it works,

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<v Speaker 1>and then if it does, you know, maybe pay the

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five bucks to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, thank you very much, all right, Rick, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh eighty eight rich one O one eight eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>seven four to two four one zero one might have

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<v Speaker 1>heard this. Uh China ordered Apple to remove WhatsApp Threads

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<v Speaker 1>and other messaging apps, including Signal and Telegram, from the

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<v Speaker 1>app store in China. Apple said it's doing what it's

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<v Speaker 1>told it was due to national security concerns. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>give many other details, but China is concerned that the

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<v Speaker 1>apps could be used to spread negative content and called

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<v Speaker 1>and cause social unrest.

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<v Speaker 8>HM.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, where have we heard this? TikTok uh?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>So this is going to be interesting and China, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think there was much thought. They were probably just like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just do this. They didn't ask anyone, They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>ask you know, they didn't take a vote. So will

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<v Speaker 1>this impact TikTok here in the US? Time will tell

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<v Speaker 1>eighty to eight Rich one O one eight eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>seven four to two four ones.

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<v Speaker 10>Year a one.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich on tech. Rich Demiro here hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with you, talking technology. Joining me now, Laura May Martin,

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<v Speaker 1>executive productivity advisor at Google and author of a new

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<v Speaker 1>book called Uptime, A Practical Guide to Personal Productivity and Wellbeing.

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<v Speaker 11>Laura, thanks so much for joining me today.

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<v Speaker 12>Thanks so much for having me so your.

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<v Speaker 1>Book really speaks to me because I'm always trying to

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<v Speaker 1>be more productive. And I think this is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>new to the mix, this idea of well being, something

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<v Speaker 1>that might not have been in the conversation until maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, I think that some people think of productivity and

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<v Speaker 13>well being as being two opposite sides, and so they're competing.

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<v Speaker 13>But the book really talks about that not only is

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<v Speaker 13>it important to prioritize well being, but it makes you

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<v Speaker 13>more productive, and so how to integrate it into your

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<v Speaker 13>overall workflow.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's sort of a simple yet maybe effective routine

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<v Speaker 1>change that people can make to boost their productivity.

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<v Speaker 13>So one routine change I talk about is just getting

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<v Speaker 13>control of your mornings.

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<v Speaker 12>So mornings are that way of setting up your day.

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<v Speaker 13>So even if you can only take five or ten

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<v Speaker 13>minutes before your first commitment and wake up and do

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<v Speaker 13>something that fills your own energy tank, whether that's meditating, journaling,

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<v Speaker 13>just sitting in silence, drinking coffee, whatever it is, that's

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<v Speaker 13>one small thing, just a few minutes that carries you

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<v Speaker 13>into the rest of your day and gives you that

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<v Speaker 13>big energy boost before you start handing out energy everywhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't typically do that on the weekdays, but on

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<v Speaker 1>the weekends. I really relish being up before everyone else

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<v Speaker 1>and having that first cup of coffee when everything is

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<v Speaker 1>just silent, and I really do enjoy that. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>email is one of my biggest work areas. I'm always

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<v Speaker 1>just overloaded with so many messages, which I love because

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good thing, but it's also really tough to

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<v Speaker 1>get through all of those. So what's your top tip

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<v Speaker 1>for sorting and prioritizing messages? So?

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<v Speaker 13>I think you want to first clear out anything you

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<v Speaker 13>don't need to see. So sometimes people say, I have

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<v Speaker 13>tens of thousands of emails in my inbox, but most

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<v Speaker 13>of them I don't need to open. So the first

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<v Speaker 13>tip is just maybe searching the word unsubscribe and getting

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<v Speaker 13>rid of things that you don't need to see. In Gmail,

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<v Speaker 13>you can just do it right within the email and

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<v Speaker 13>subscribe from list.

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<v Speaker 12>Secondly, you want.

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<v Speaker 13>To pop out things you do need to see, So

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<v Speaker 13>emails from your manager directly to you should look important,

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<v Speaker 13>and you can do that by setting up filters in

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<v Speaker 13>Gmail and attaching a red label when those emails come in.

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<v Speaker 13>So now you're visually prioritizing. And then the third step

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<v Speaker 13>is thinking about how to sort your email. The same

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<v Speaker 13>way you do your laundry. So you empty your inbox

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<v Speaker 13>like your dryer. You put things into piles based on

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<v Speaker 13>what future you needs to do with those next, whether

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<v Speaker 13>it's read, review, respond, and then you go through those

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<v Speaker 13>piles all at once.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I just heard you say to put a red label.

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<v Speaker 1>So can you have different color labels in email?

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<v Speaker 5>You can?

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<v Speaker 13>So once you create a label, you can attach it

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<v Speaker 13>with a filter. So in this case, it would be

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<v Speaker 13>from my manager to me, always apply this label. And

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<v Speaker 13>then on the left side in Gmail, when you're hovered

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<v Speaker 13>over a label name, you'll see three dots, and when

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<v Speaker 13>you click on those three dots, you're able to change

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<v Speaker 13>the label color based on how you want to feel

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<v Speaker 13>when it comes to here in box.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I love it. I just learned something so very good.

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<v Speaker 1>This entire interview is worth it. So many people feel

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<v Speaker 1>guilty taking down time, and there was a point in

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<v Speaker 1>my life when I felt really guilty doing this as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But how can scheduling breaks actually make us feel more productive?

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<v Speaker 13>So not only does downtime help to prevent burnout and

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<v Speaker 13>give you that chance to decompress and process everything that

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<v Speaker 13>you've heard and thought about all day, but Actually, research

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<v Speaker 13>shows that you're most creative during downtime. So those times

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<v Speaker 13>in your workout, your commute, on a walk, those are

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<v Speaker 13>times when you're actually coming up with your best ideas.

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<v Speaker 12>It's not in another meeting for the day.

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<v Speaker 13>And so if you really think about scheduling, downtime is

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<v Speaker 13>making you more creative, long term, holistic when it comes

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<v Speaker 13>to productivity, it's easier to make sure you're prioritizing that

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<v Speaker 13>as something you need to do to be productive.

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<v Speaker 10>I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I always get my best ideas when I'm literally not

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about what I should be thinking about. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I take a look a lot of notes and

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<v Speaker 1>then send them to my email and when I get back, I'm.

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<v Speaker 14>Like, oh, yeah, that was a good frout perfect.

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<v Speaker 11>Smartphones.

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<v Speaker 1>We love them, we hate them, where everything in between.

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<v Speaker 1>They are such a big part of our lives, but

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<v Speaker 1>they are really addictive. They make us engage at times

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we don't want to, but we also need them.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's sort of a practical first step we can

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<v Speaker 1>take to develop a healthier relationship with this thing that

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<v Speaker 1>is always with us?

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<v Speaker 13>Right, And like you said, technology is so helpful. It

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<v Speaker 13>connects us in so many ways and it's really just

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<v Speaker 13>about finding the right way to make technology work for

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<v Speaker 13>you instead of against you. So that could be as

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<v Speaker 13>simple as what I do is create a schedule on

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<v Speaker 13>my phone for my social media apps and things I

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<v Speaker 13>don't want to open during the workday. I have times

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<v Speaker 13>when I'm locked out of them until the evening when

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<v Speaker 13>I've decided. I also have a bedtime for my phone

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<v Speaker 13>and a bedroom for my phone, and it's outside of

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<v Speaker 13>my bedroom, so the alarm goes off, I put my

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<v Speaker 13>phone to bed on the charger, and then I have

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<v Speaker 13>some time away from screens before going to bed, and

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<v Speaker 13>when I wake up in the morning, I do at

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<v Speaker 13>least one thing before touching my phone. And so I

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<v Speaker 13>think just having those small habits just help us make

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<v Speaker 13>sure that we're not getting distracted by technology, but that

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<v Speaker 13>it's working for us in the right ways.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the idea of putting the phone to bed,

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<v Speaker 1>like rocking it to sleep, maybe reading it or reading

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<v Speaker 1>in a story.

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<v Speaker 11>Singing in a little song.

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<v Speaker 9>I love.

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<v Speaker 1>So, what are some of the common signs that we

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<v Speaker 1>have become too attached to our phone? Is it that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of last scroll before closing your eyes to sleep?

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<v Speaker 11>Is that like the dead giveaway.

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<v Speaker 13>I like to say, think of your phone or any

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<v Speaker 13>work in your home or device, kind of like in laws.

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<v Speaker 13>You want to create the same type of boundaries you

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<v Speaker 13>would have if they lived with you, So you would

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<v Speaker 13>not invite them into your room first thing in the morning,

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<v Speaker 13>you would not sit with them until the minute you

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<v Speaker 13>go to bed, and so same thing that you would

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<v Speaker 13>do with your phone. You want to say, you know,

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<v Speaker 13>I'm having that healthy tie away from it, or I

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<v Speaker 13>find myself checking my phone when I don't plan on.

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<v Speaker 12>Doing anything about it.

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<v Speaker 13>I think that's one of the biggest things, when it's

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<v Speaker 13>you know, I'm not actively working, I'm not responding to

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<v Speaker 13>emails right now, I'm just kind of checking to and.

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<v Speaker 12>So just giving yourself maybe one evening a week.

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<v Speaker 13>I do a challenge at Google called no Tech Tuesday Night,

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<v Speaker 13>and it's just for six weeks, one evening just saying

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<v Speaker 13>from dinner to the following morning, try and plugging from

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<v Speaker 13>your device or putting it in another room and checking it,

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<v Speaker 13>you know, occasionally if you have urgent things, but in general,

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<v Speaker 13>finding ways to do hobbies or you know, play a

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<v Speaker 13>board game or be really present, or just taking one

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<v Speaker 13>night to see how that feels and how it affects

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<v Speaker 13>your sleep and the following morning being more.

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<v Speaker 12>Productive the next day is actually one of the top

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<v Speaker 12>feedback from.

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<v Speaker 11>That great advice.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, saying no to people and requests and just everything

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<v Speaker 1>is really really tough.

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<v Speaker 11>How can we say no in a nice way?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 13>I think some people say no is a complete sentence,

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<v Speaker 13>but for me that always felt uncomfortable. And you want

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<v Speaker 13>to maintain that social capital and friendliness and you know, approachability,

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<v Speaker 13>and so finding ways that say no but in a

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<v Speaker 13>way that feels approachable, and so saying no because you know,

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<v Speaker 13>giving people true insight into what you're prioritizing, what you're

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<v Speaker 13>working on and why you can't attend, or saying no

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<v Speaker 13>but you know, I can't speak at your event, but

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<v Speaker 13>here's a ton of resources from past events I've done

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<v Speaker 13>or other speakers you might want to consider or not

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<v Speaker 13>right now, that's not something I can prioritize currently, but

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<v Speaker 13>please reach back out in a few months and my

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<v Speaker 13>priorities may have changed. And so all of those are

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<v Speaker 13>still ways of saying no, but they help you and

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<v Speaker 13>the person who's requesting feel a little better about it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're hearing a lot more about work life balance. This

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<v Speaker 1>probably goes to the well being section of your book.

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<v Speaker 1>But what's a boundary that someone can set with their

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<v Speaker 1>employer or maybe the people they work with that you recommend.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, So whenever you're setting a boundary, I always recommend

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<v Speaker 13>talking about what you do do instead of what you

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<v Speaker 13>don't do. So let's say that you're trying to leave

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<v Speaker 13>every day at five pm to spend time with your

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<v Speaker 13>children and you know, be present at dinner and maybe

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<v Speaker 13>you'll check back on later. But instead of saying I

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<v Speaker 13>don't take meetings after five, you can say I take

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<v Speaker 13>meetings between eight and five, and then I'm available after

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<v Speaker 13>eight pm for anything urgent. So now you're showing them

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<v Speaker 13>what you will do and giving them that full picture

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<v Speaker 13>of when you're available, versus trying to tell them everything

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<v Speaker 13>you won't do. So that's a good way of saying,

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<v Speaker 13>you know, this is a boundary that I have and

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<v Speaker 13>here's how to reach me.

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<v Speaker 11>Now. For some it may seem like a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Ago, but a lot of people are still adjusting to

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<v Speaker 1>that work work from home, that hybrid kind of atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 1>So what can home based workers do to optimize their productivity?

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<v Speaker 14>So, first you.

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<v Speaker 13>Want to ask yourself, are you what I call a homebaser,

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<v Speaker 13>which means you focus better at home, or an outfielder,

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<v Speaker 13>which means you focus better out And so based on

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<v Speaker 13>your answer to that, you can start to structure your schedule.

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<v Speaker 13>It's really just about knowing yourself and setting up your environments.

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<v Speaker 13>The other cool thing you can do is by picking

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<v Speaker 13>what I call hot spots. So instead of having everything

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<v Speaker 13>be done at your desk, if you were working from home,

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<v Speaker 13>you can say, I always code at my desk, I always.

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<v Speaker 12>Answer emails outside on my porch. I always make phone

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<v Speaker 12>calls on a walk.

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<v Speaker 13>And so what that does is it helps your brain

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<v Speaker 13>associate those spots with those types of activities, and then

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<v Speaker 13>it's easier for you to slip into that mood. When

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<v Speaker 13>you go on the porch, you're already thinking email, and

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<v Speaker 13>so that helps with working from home but still having

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<v Speaker 13>different places for different things.

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<v Speaker 1>Laura may Martin, executive productivity advisor at Google.

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<v Speaker 11>Thanks so much for joining me today.

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<v Speaker 12>Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 10>This is great, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>The book is called Uptime, A Practical Guide to Personal Productivity.

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<v Speaker 11>And well Being.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find it anywhere you buy books. I'll put

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<v Speaker 1>it on the website as well rich on Tech dot

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<v Speaker 1>to Angie in Los Angeles. Angie, you're on with Rich.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi. I just recently found out that my life top

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<v Speaker 3>has what seems to be maybe of root kit or

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<v Speaker 3>like a kernel route type of malware loaded on it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've been trying to I've done like a regular

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<v Speaker 3>reset that didn't work. I've been trying to, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>find where it is, and it does come. Something comes

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<v Speaker 3>up on my control panel and I'm able to delete

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<v Speaker 3>drivers related to it. But then as soon as I

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<v Speaker 3>turn it back on, you know, turn it off, turn on,

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<v Speaker 3>it reinstalled. There definitely seems to be something embedded and uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, even the the of the Yeah, So I

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<v Speaker 3>was wondering if you had any good resources for someone

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking I need to clean reinstall of the Windows

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<v Speaker 3>program and then just to you know, somebody to find

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<v Speaker 3>where this is, this root kit is and and get

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<v Speaker 3>rid of it. But my local uh best I doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>have the same resources they used to do. Everybody's pearing

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<v Speaker 3>down their resources, and I need I'm in need of

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<v Speaker 3>a good resource to do a reinstall and then just

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<v Speaker 3>to wipe it clean. I mean, just what do they

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<v Speaker 3>call that new cupa.

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<v Speaker 2>A clean install? What? What version of Windows are you using?

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<v Speaker 3>Ten?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you can do a clean install yourself. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>tried it?

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<v Speaker 3>No? I have not. That's probably why I'm a little

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<v Speaker 3>nervous at doing it myself, but also getting rid of

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<v Speaker 3>the malware that seems to be embedded that was That's

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<v Speaker 3>probably the biggest concern of mine is you know, even

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<v Speaker 3>if I do the reinstall, if I don't get rid

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<v Speaker 3>of the malware, then I'm still back at square one again.

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<v Speaker 1>So, well, did you did you try to remove this

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<v Speaker 1>with a program like malware bytes or Windows Defender?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm in the process of doing that. I

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<v Speaker 3>was trying to think of a way without connecting to

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<v Speaker 3>my network of you know, because this is obviously an

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<v Speaker 3>affected laptop. So I don't want to connect to my

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<v Speaker 3>network and I need and load it there without any type.

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<v Speaker 2>Of uh yeah, the internet.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well it's kind of like you catch twenty two

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<v Speaker 3>and that's.

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<v Speaker 2>I hear you, I hear you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, look, I mean, if you want to get a

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<v Speaker 1>professional to do this, it's it's a quite simple job.

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<v Speaker 1>So my kid actually got a virus on his laptop

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of months ago, and you're right. I did

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<v Speaker 1>disconnect it from the network and I I did a

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<v Speaker 1>clean install of Windows and it did remove it and

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<v Speaker 1>it's fine. But it wasn't the toughest process. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is why a backup is so important because when these

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<v Speaker 1>things happen, if you have a backup, you just clean install,

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<v Speaker 1>wipe the system, and you're you're up and running again.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you want a professional to do it, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a place called you Break I Fix.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you heard of that?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, I mean there's quite a few of

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<v Speaker 3>them there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're they're a little chain, so they will do it. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>the best buys. I'm surprised they don't have the ability

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. But you can also just look on

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<v Speaker 1>Yelp for a you know local like you know computer

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<v Speaker 1>repair clinic or repair shop and they will be able

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. Like if you want to go more local,

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<v Speaker 1>right like a locally owned place, you can just search

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<v Speaker 1>some computer repair and Yelp and find. What I typically

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<v Speaker 1>recommend is just call the first two locations that are

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<v Speaker 1>near you that are highly rated and just see which

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<v Speaker 1>one you get a better feel for. You know, because

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<v Speaker 1>some people are really nice and some people are very short,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you probably don't want to go with the

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<v Speaker 1>person that's short because if they're short with you when

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't paid them yet, imagine once you've paid them.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why I always call the local business to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of see what they're what their deal is.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is not my line of work, so I'm

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<v Speaker 3>kind of wondering. So when you get your reinstall of Windows,

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<v Speaker 3>how did you get rid of the virus without using

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<v Speaker 3>your network to load something into get rid of the virus?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I just went into the Windows cleaning. Windows has

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<v Speaker 1>a way to clean install from Windows. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>go into your Windows settings, there is a way to

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<v Speaker 1>reset if you search, like I think they used to

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<v Speaker 1>call it refresh, but now they call it reset. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you do that or just type in you know,

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<v Speaker 1>into their search functionality reset Windows. There's like a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of different options, but it has them all kind of

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<v Speaker 1>built into the system, or it should be. And as

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<v Speaker 1>long as now, if this thing has gotten into like

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<v Speaker 1>the bios of your computer, that might be different. But

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<v Speaker 1>I would say typically ninety percent of issues with viruses

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, at the software level, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're probably going to get rid of it upon

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<v Speaker 1>the first clean install, but I would try that first,

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<v Speaker 1>Just open it up and do that.

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<v Speaker 3>I did the reset a couple of times and it

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<v Speaker 3>just was right back to where I started, and I

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<v Speaker 3>need it the whole thing twice, and so it seems

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<v Speaker 3>to be really embedded, you know, deep in like maybe

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<v Speaker 3>the firmware or something. I'm not really sure, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>not white being clean with just a reset alone.

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<v Speaker 1>If it is a root kit kind of thing, then yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you definitely you should probably get someone that helps. But

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<v Speaker 1>I would go to you Break I Fixed. They definitely

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<v Speaker 1>handle this kind of stuff. Again, if you want the

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<v Speaker 1>local person, you know, go with the local. But most

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<v Speaker 1>people I hear back from with the U Break experience,

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<v Speaker 1>they kind of like it. And it's a national chain,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's always that backing of like a big company.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want, you know, if you need help or something.

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<v Speaker 1>But good luck, Angie, and keep me posted. Email me

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<v Speaker 1>on the website let me know an update so that

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<v Speaker 1>I can share. Okay, thank you, all right, thanks a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for the call. Eighty to eight rich one on

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<v Speaker 1>one eight eight eight seven four to two four.

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<v Speaker 2>One zero one.

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<v Speaker 1>Global smartphone market is actually growing again. So we've been

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<v Speaker 1>talking about how smartphone sales were down for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they're back up seven point eight percent growth. In

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<v Speaker 1>the first quarter of twenty twenty four, Samsung also overtook

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<v Speaker 1>Apple once again as the top smartphone maker. Now, before

0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:08.840
<v Speaker 1>you get too excited, let me explain what happened. So

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<v Speaker 1>last year, at the end of the year, Apple overtook Samsung.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the first quarter this year, Samsung overtook Apple. But

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:19.520
<v Speaker 1>here's the thing. Apple releases their new phones in the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth quarter of the year and Samsung releases their new

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<v Speaker 1>phones in the first quarter of the year. So is

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<v Speaker 1>this really just people buying new phones from these makers

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<v Speaker 1>and some people like Apple, some people like Samsung.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably.

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<v Speaker 1>This is all according to IDC, And in the first

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<v Speaker 1>quarter of twenty twenty four, Samsung shipped sixty million smartphones.

0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Sixty million smartphones, that's a twenty percent market share. We're

0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:48.880
<v Speaker 1>talking worldwide here. Apple experienced a nine point six percent

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:53.200
<v Speaker 1>year over year decline shipping fifty million smartphones and that

0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:57.279
<v Speaker 1>is a seventeen percent market share. The other brands that

0:34:57.320 --> 0:35:02.240
<v Speaker 1>are in here is Shaomi. They are big in China,

0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:05.440
<v Speaker 1>they're coming back very strong. And then there's this company

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 1>called Transient. This is a company in South Africa and

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:14.280
<v Speaker 1>they are very popular in that market. The main takeaway

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 1>from this is that consumers want more expensive devices these days.

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 1>They want that premium device, but they know that they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to hold on to it for a longer amount

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:25.759
<v Speaker 1>of time. So we've talked about the fact that people

0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:29.440
<v Speaker 1>are keeping their phones for three plus years. That seems

0:35:29.440 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 1>to be the big trend, and it makes sense. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're spending a lot of money on a phone and

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:35.880
<v Speaker 1>you're dividing up those payments by three years, which a

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:38.719
<v Speaker 1>lot of people are doing, then why would you not

0:35:38.760 --> 0:35:39.840
<v Speaker 1>want to keep that phone.

0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:41.080
<v Speaker 2>For as long as humanly possible?

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:46.360
<v Speaker 1>And air Chat this is an app that is taking

0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:49.960
<v Speaker 1>not so much the world by storm, but so far

0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:53.800
<v Speaker 1>the tech folks Silicon Valley folks really like this app

0:35:53.840 --> 0:35:56.920
<v Speaker 1>called air Chat. It's kind of like Twitter, but with

0:35:57.160 --> 0:35:59.759
<v Speaker 1>audio posts. So I did download it. I did test

0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:03.399
<v Speaker 1>it at you record your voice, it posts your voice as

0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:05.719
<v Speaker 1>a little sort of I guess a tweet for not

0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:09.080
<v Speaker 1>a better word. But it also transcribes what you say,

0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:12.359
<v Speaker 1>so people can scroll through read what you said, but

0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:15.280
<v Speaker 1>also listen to your voice. I liken it to leaving

0:36:15.320 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 1>a voicemail for the world, So it uses AI to

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 1>generate those transcriptions and it's kind of fun. It's different.

0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:24.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's going to catch on, but

0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:27.920
<v Speaker 1>it's it's certainly a new take on social media. Like

0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:29.879
<v Speaker 1>I said, if you want to check me out rich

0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:31.240
<v Speaker 1>on Tech on air Chat.

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:33.840
<v Speaker 2>That is the new app.

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:36.360
<v Speaker 1>By the way, the guy who started this app, I

0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:38.440
<v Speaker 1>lunched with him. I looked at my email like almost

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:39.520
<v Speaker 1>like fifteen years ago.

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:41.960
<v Speaker 2>I think he was doing stuff back then.

0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:44.600
<v Speaker 1>Hey, it only takes one hit, right, and now apparently

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:47.200
<v Speaker 1>he's got a hit. Ay to eight Rich one one

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>for listening. Do appreciate it. We got a lot on

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:40.160
<v Speaker 1>the show. This hour, I'm going to talk about a

0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:44.960
<v Speaker 1>new wearable pendant that will record pretty much all of

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:47.880
<v Speaker 1>your life in audio, and then you can search it

0:37:48.000 --> 0:37:53.360
<v Speaker 1>sort of chat gp GPT style. Netflix as growing members

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:55.440
<v Speaker 1>once again, Well they're not growing them. It's not like

0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 1>they have a lab with or growing people. But you

0:37:57.239 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, They're growing memberships, like more people

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:03.000
<v Speaker 1>are signed up. Sounds like a Netflix show to grow

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:06.759
<v Speaker 1>members But I will tell you, I will tell you

0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 1>what they are doing to sort of make more people

0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:14.120
<v Speaker 1>pay and then coming up. Later this hour, we have

0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:17.680
<v Speaker 1>a guest, Dan O'Dowd of the Dawn Project. He will

0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:21.640
<v Speaker 1>explain why Tesla's full self driving software is not ready

0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 1>for the streets. Eighty eight Rich one one eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight seven four to two four one zero one. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go to Adam in Orlando, Florida. Adam, you're on with Rich.

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<v Speaker 9>Hi.

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<v Speaker 5>Rich.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm calling because I was checking my Gmail and I

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<v Speaker 7>decided to play around with the settings, and I looked

0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:47.919
<v Speaker 7>in the privacy section and I noticed something I'd never

0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:51.920
<v Speaker 7>noticed before having my Gmail email address for a long time,

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:55.640
<v Speaker 7>which is that it gives you the option to search

0:38:56.040 --> 0:38:59.239
<v Speaker 7>your I think email address in the dark web to

0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:02.800
<v Speaker 7>find anywhere results, and then it tells you if there

0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:08.279
<v Speaker 7>are results, it can charge you to find out what

0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:14.360
<v Speaker 7>those results are and maybe clean it up. I think so.

0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:17.520
<v Speaker 7>So I'm calling to find out if if you know

0:39:17.600 --> 0:39:21.240
<v Speaker 7>about that, or if there is a maybe another system

0:39:21.520 --> 0:39:26.680
<v Speaker 7>or another service that provides something like that, because I

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:29.960
<v Speaker 7>do have a DOTU email address. So I'm just wondering

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<v Speaker 7>if you know what's a good efficient way to help

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<v Speaker 7>clear your clear anything you may have hackers may have

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<v Speaker 7>on you on.

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<v Speaker 5>The dark web.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, great, question, And yes, I use the Google

0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:49.719
<v Speaker 1>Dark Web monitoring for sure. I get alerts when my

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:53.279
<v Speaker 1>stuff shows up, which it often does. But here's the

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<v Speaker 1>number one thing. You cannot get this information off the

0:39:55.960 --> 0:39:58.520
<v Speaker 1>dark web. No matter who promises that to you, they

0:39:58.560 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 1>can't do that. The dark web is not a database

0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:04.960
<v Speaker 1>that someone maintains that you can say, hey, can you

0:40:04.960 --> 0:40:09.040
<v Speaker 1>pull my information off of here, and some hacker somewhere says, oh, sure,

0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:10.920
<v Speaker 1>let me kindly do that. No, that's not the way

0:40:10.920 --> 0:40:14.319
<v Speaker 1>it works. So number one, once your information is out there,

0:40:14.360 --> 0:40:16.879
<v Speaker 1>it is out there forever. There is no getting it back.

0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:19.839
<v Speaker 1>So that's very important to know because people will spend

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of money trying to clear up these results.

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<v Speaker 2>Now what Google does. There's two things.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one, Adam, do you pay for Google storage or no?

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<v Speaker 10>No?

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<v Speaker 7>No, I just have the regular basic account.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so I pay for the Google storage, So I

0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:37.840
<v Speaker 1>actually can so Google any Google member. Like, if you

0:40:37.840 --> 0:40:41.880
<v Speaker 1>have a Google account, you can search for your information

0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:44.560
<v Speaker 1>one time, which is what you stumbled upon, right, So

0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 1>that if you want to find that, you can go

0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:50.160
<v Speaker 1>to one dot Google dot com and there's a section

0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:53.439
<v Speaker 1>that says dark Web report and you click try now

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 1>and then run scan and it will show you the

0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:58.760
<v Speaker 1>information that's out there now. For me, I have thirty

0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:01.840
<v Speaker 1>seven data breachesked to my info on the dark web

0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:05.920
<v Speaker 1>that includes my name, data, birth phone number, email, passwords,

0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 1>user names, gender, Let's see is there anymore? Yeah, that's

0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:12.880
<v Speaker 1>pretty much it. So that information is out there, and

0:41:12.920 --> 0:41:16.760
<v Speaker 1>this will give you if you click into these pretty

0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:20.359
<v Speaker 1>specific information like I can see my twenty twenty one

0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:23.719
<v Speaker 1>AT and T subscriber data breach. It's got my name data,

0:41:23.760 --> 0:41:26.880
<v Speaker 1>birth phone number, email, and address now floating around on

0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:28.160
<v Speaker 1>the web for anyone to see.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, AT and T. So what's the point of

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<v Speaker 2>all of this.

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<v Speaker 1>So the point of all of this is really to

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<v Speaker 1>be understanding of the fact that this is out there. Google,

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<v Speaker 1>they will do one thing for you. They will pull

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 1>your information off of their search results if you ask

0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:48.560
<v Speaker 1>for that. So there's a difference between your information being

0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:50.640
<v Speaker 1>out there on the dark web, which is in some

0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:52.920
<v Speaker 1>sort of database that people are changing hands all the

0:41:52.960 --> 0:41:57.120
<v Speaker 1>time they're selling this information, and information being in search results.

0:41:57.440 --> 0:42:00.799
<v Speaker 1>So Google, if you use their their monitoring program, which

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:03.960
<v Speaker 1>you can get for free if you're anyone, can get

0:42:04.000 --> 0:42:06.759
<v Speaker 1>that for free. It's called Results About You that will

0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:10.080
<v Speaker 1>allow you to pull information off of Google search results.

0:42:10.080 --> 0:42:12.120
<v Speaker 1>So if there's a Google search result that has your name,

0:42:12.160 --> 0:42:14.680
<v Speaker 1>your address, or phone number on one of these websites

0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:18.160
<v Speaker 1>like spoke Yo or checkmate or whatever they're called, and

0:42:18.200 --> 0:42:20.239
<v Speaker 1>you say, hey, I don't like that information being there.

0:42:20.280 --> 0:42:22.839
<v Speaker 1>Google will assess that and say, okay, should we take

0:42:22.880 --> 0:42:24.600
<v Speaker 1>that down, and they will make a decision. It's not

0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:28.520
<v Speaker 1>always guaranteed, but the bigger thing about all of these

0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:33.080
<v Speaker 1>dark web situations is understanding what information is out there,

0:42:33.120 --> 0:42:38.279
<v Speaker 1>and more importantly, not reusing your information and also not

0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 1>giving out your information in the first place. So, for instance,

0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:44.120
<v Speaker 1>phone number, I mean, I'm looking at my phone number

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<v Speaker 1>right here. It's telling me, I mean this at and

0:42:46.440 --> 0:42:49.120
<v Speaker 1>T breach was really bad. I'm looking at my data birth,

0:42:49.520 --> 0:42:52.960
<v Speaker 1>my real phone number, and my real email address that

0:42:53.239 --> 0:42:56.880
<v Speaker 1>is just now out there for anyone, which is really scary.

0:42:57.880 --> 0:43:00.440
<v Speaker 1>So again, the more you can do to keep your

0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:03.640
<v Speaker 1>information private going forward, I think is going to be

0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:05.840
<v Speaker 1>a better way of going about this. With that said,

0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:08.239
<v Speaker 1>there are a couple of tools that I will link

0:43:08.320 --> 0:43:10.920
<v Speaker 1>up on the website rich on tech dot tv that

0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:14.640
<v Speaker 1>can reveal where some of this information is. The First

0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:18.200
<v Speaker 1>one keeper Security dot com. They do a free data

0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:20.600
<v Speaker 1>breach you can scan and it will give you some

0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:25.320
<v Speaker 1>information about your data breach information out there. Keep in

0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:27.600
<v Speaker 1>mind a lot of these things want to sell you

0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:30.319
<v Speaker 1>on something else, so they're showing you this information in

0:43:30.360 --> 0:43:33.799
<v Speaker 1>hopes of converting you to a paid customer. The other

0:43:33.800 --> 0:43:35.520
<v Speaker 1>one that I think is actually pretty good with the

0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:39.760
<v Speaker 1>information they give is scan dot aura dot com. Scan

0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:43.280
<v Speaker 1>dot au r a dot com. And this one actually

0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:46.240
<v Speaker 1>shows my passwords that are flying around the Internet.

0:43:46.280 --> 0:43:47.160
<v Speaker 2>Now they have them.

0:43:47.040 --> 0:43:49.319
<v Speaker 1>Redacted a little bit, but I can tell a couple

0:43:49.320 --> 0:43:52.280
<v Speaker 1>of those passwords I recognize, and that's really scary.

0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:53.960
<v Speaker 2>So I can see.

0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:56.200
<v Speaker 1>That I do not want to reuse that password ever

0:43:56.320 --> 0:43:58.959
<v Speaker 1>again because it is out there on the open web.

0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:01.400
<v Speaker 1>And then it gives all of my account names that

0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:02.880
<v Speaker 1>are out there on the web. Most of them are

0:44:02.960 --> 0:44:05.200
<v Speaker 1>rich DeMuro, which I get. I mean, that's my name,

0:44:05.239 --> 0:44:08.080
<v Speaker 1>that's what I use, so that's gonna be pretty standard.

0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:12.040
<v Speaker 1>The other one that this one is pretty a pretty

0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:15.839
<v Speaker 1>big website. It's called haveiben pned dot com and they

0:44:15.880 --> 0:44:20.080
<v Speaker 1>spell pned pwned dot com. You can put your email

0:44:20.120 --> 0:44:22.560
<v Speaker 1>address in there and they will notify you for free

0:44:22.680 --> 0:44:26.200
<v Speaker 1>anytime your email address shows up on one of these

0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:29.400
<v Speaker 1>dark web breaches. Now, we're actually gonna have an interview

0:44:29.480 --> 0:44:32.480
<v Speaker 1>with the guy who runs this website, Troy Hunt. We

0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:34.400
<v Speaker 1>will have an interview with him next week and he

0:44:34.480 --> 0:44:38.920
<v Speaker 1>explains I actually ask him about these dark web, these

0:44:39.000 --> 0:44:42.080
<v Speaker 1>dark web monitoring services because I was curious about them.

0:44:42.120 --> 0:44:46.360
<v Speaker 1>So he will explain what his take is on paying

0:44:46.400 --> 0:44:49.120
<v Speaker 1>for these services. And let me just tell you spoiler alert,

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:52.000
<v Speaker 1>probably not worth paying for these services.

0:44:52.080 --> 0:44:54.160
<v Speaker 2>So where does that leave us?

0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Go to the Google Results about you service. Definitely take

0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:01.480
<v Speaker 1>advantage of that. You tell Google your information. I know

0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:04.560
<v Speaker 1>it sounds counterintuitive, but you'd say, here's my phone number,

0:45:04.560 --> 0:45:07.480
<v Speaker 1>here's my email address, here's my address. If you find

0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:11.000
<v Speaker 1>this on the web in results, let me know, send

0:45:11.000 --> 0:45:13.360
<v Speaker 1>me an email. And then I have the ability to

0:45:13.360 --> 0:45:16.000
<v Speaker 1>say Google, can you take that off the internet, And

0:45:16.040 --> 0:45:18.000
<v Speaker 1>in nine times out of ten in my experience, they

0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:20.400
<v Speaker 1>will take that search result down. They don't go to

0:45:20.400 --> 0:45:23.440
<v Speaker 1>the website and delete your information. But ninety nine percent

0:45:23.480 --> 0:45:26.360
<v Speaker 1>of people are just searching on the web for your address,

0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:28.440
<v Speaker 1>for your phone number. I mean, most people aren't searching

0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:30.720
<v Speaker 1>for you. Let's be honest. Unless you owe someone something

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:35.120
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, but that they will take down that search result.

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<v Speaker 1>With the dark web, there are ways again, like I said,

0:45:38.440 --> 0:45:41.479
<v Speaker 1>to check out your information that's out there, but there's

0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:44.080
<v Speaker 1>not much you can do about that information being out there.

0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:46.080
<v Speaker 1>I will link all of the things I talked about

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<v Speaker 1>on the website rich on tech dot TV. My main takeaway,

0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:52.560
<v Speaker 1>my number one takeaway. If you get nothing else out

0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:56.359
<v Speaker 1>of this conversation, limit the amount of information you give

0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:58.920
<v Speaker 1>out to people. If a random website you're signing up

0:45:58.960 --> 0:46:01.360
<v Speaker 1>for asks for your data, why do you need to

0:46:01.360 --> 0:46:04.000
<v Speaker 1>give them your actual date of birth? Unless it is

0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:06.480
<v Speaker 1>something like a credit card or your bank or whatever,

0:46:06.920 --> 0:46:10.719
<v Speaker 1>why do they need to know that? They probably don't

0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:14.839
<v Speaker 1>email addresses. Use a cloaked email address when possible when

0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:16.799
<v Speaker 1>you're signing up for random websites. You can do that

0:46:16.840 --> 0:46:18.920
<v Speaker 1>through iCloud. There's a bunch of services that will let

0:46:18.920 --> 0:46:21.080
<v Speaker 1>you do it. Try not to give away your real

0:46:21.120 --> 0:46:24.760
<v Speaker 1>email address. Duck duck go has a nice free email

0:46:24.800 --> 0:46:27.239
<v Speaker 1>address that is you can use if you want to

0:46:27.239 --> 0:46:32.280
<v Speaker 1>throw away email address, So search duc duc go cloaked

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<v Speaker 1>email I think it's called and they have that. And

0:46:35.560 --> 0:46:38.440
<v Speaker 1>then when it comes to your information, like your password.

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<v Speaker 1>Do not use the same password over and over. The

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<v Speaker 1>problem is when you use that password, even if you

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<v Speaker 1>think you're so good at creating a strong password, if

0:46:48.040 --> 0:46:50.920
<v Speaker 1>that password is out on the web. What these hackers

0:46:50.960 --> 0:46:54.080
<v Speaker 1>do is they take that password, they see the email

0:46:54.080 --> 0:46:56.400
<v Speaker 1>address associated with it, and they say, okay, let's hit

0:46:56.480 --> 0:46:59.880
<v Speaker 1>up the top fifty major websites and see if this

0:47:00.040 --> 0:47:03.799
<v Speaker 1>little combination of email address and password unlocks this website.

0:47:03.880 --> 0:47:05.880
<v Speaker 1>So they go to Bank of America, they go to Chase,

0:47:05.920 --> 0:47:08.600
<v Speaker 1>they go to American Express, they go to all those

0:47:08.640 --> 0:47:11.640
<v Speaker 1>banks out there, and they try your email address and password,

0:47:11.880 --> 0:47:15.359
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes that might unlock the website and get them in.

0:47:15.400 --> 0:47:18.480
<v Speaker 1>That's called credential stuffing. That's what happened with Roku. So

0:47:18.640 --> 0:47:22.480
<v Speaker 1>do not reuse the same passwords across websites. Those are

0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:24.440
<v Speaker 1>some of the best ways to protect yourself. That is

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<v Speaker 1>my recommendation. Okay, let me get off the soapbox and

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<v Speaker 1>tell you real quick about Netflix before we go to

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<v Speaker 1>break eighty eight rich one oh one eight eight eight

0:47:33.239 --> 0:47:35.960
<v Speaker 1>seven four to two four one zero one. Not much

0:47:36.000 --> 0:47:39.320
<v Speaker 1>to report about Netflix except their memberships grew sixteen percent.

0:47:39.360 --> 0:47:42.920
<v Speaker 1>They now have almost two hundred and seventy million people

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<v Speaker 1>paying every month to watch Netflix. But here's the concerning issue.

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<v Speaker 1>They have five hundred million people interacting with the service.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that mean. There's a lot of freeloaders that

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<v Speaker 1>are still using other people's Netflix accounts.

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<v Speaker 2>So two things.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one, Netflix says, starting next year, we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to provide any updates on our membership numbers quarterly. Why

0:48:03.120 --> 0:48:05.799
<v Speaker 1>because they understand the market is slowing. They're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to have these big numbers, these big membership numbers going

0:48:09.600 --> 0:48:12.200
<v Speaker 1>forward the growth. But what they are going to do

0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:15.760
<v Speaker 1>potentially price hikes. They're going to crack down on password sharing,

0:48:15.960 --> 0:48:17.640
<v Speaker 1>They're going to put more of an emphasis on that

0:48:17.719 --> 0:48:22.839
<v Speaker 1>ad supported membership, tire and more live programming. You are

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<v Speaker 1>listening to rich on Tech. We'll have more of your

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<v Speaker 1>questions right after this. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

0:48:28.920 --> 0:48:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you talking technology at

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<v Speaker 1>triple eight rich one oh one eight eight eight seven

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<v Speaker 1>four to two four one zero one. The website for

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<v Speaker 1>the show rich on Tech dot tv just gave out

0:48:43.480 --> 0:48:46.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of great resources for searching for information on

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<v Speaker 1>the dark web. So if you want to get links

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<v Speaker 1>to those, you can get those in real time just

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<v Speaker 1>go to Rich on tech dot TV. Hit the light

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<v Speaker 1>bulb right at the top of the website, and that

0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:03.640
<v Speaker 1>will bring you to the radio show wiki. That is

0:49:03.640 --> 0:49:06.239
<v Speaker 1>a list of all of the shows and all of

0:49:06.280 --> 0:49:09.280
<v Speaker 1>the show notes. So just tap into the show notes

0:49:09.320 --> 0:49:12.879
<v Speaker 1>for number sixty eight and that should give you all

0:49:12.960 --> 0:49:15.319
<v Speaker 1>of this stuff that I just mentioned. Let me make

0:49:15.320 --> 0:49:17.680
<v Speaker 1>sure it's there. Yep, there it is Google one Google

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<v Speaker 1>Results about you, keeper, Aura.

0:49:20.080 --> 0:49:21.040
<v Speaker 2>And have I been pooned?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to Gus in Morino Valley, California. Gus, you're

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<v Speaker 1>on with Rich.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 15>Rich, this morning my laptop, I turned it on and

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<v Speaker 15>it was kind of slow, so I restarted it and

0:49:37.000 --> 0:49:40.360
<v Speaker 15>when I when he came back, Google Boom was gone,

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<v Speaker 15>what that will file?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>What?

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<v Speaker 10>What are you on?

0:49:44.719 --> 0:49:45.520
<v Speaker 2>A Mac or a PC?

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<v Speaker 5>It's a it's a it's a deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So that's Windows.

0:49:54.600 --> 0:49:57.440
<v Speaker 1>So maybe okay, So I actually got an email about this.

0:49:57.520 --> 0:50:00.640
<v Speaker 1>It's it's there must it's interesting there. I know that

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<v Speaker 1>Windows really tries to push the Edge browser.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you've heard of that one. Is

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<v Speaker 2>that on your desktop?

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<v Speaker 5>The Edge? No?

0:50:09.080 --> 0:50:09.239
<v Speaker 16>No?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, well you know what it is? It is? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it is. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's Microsoft's version of Chrome, and they really pushed

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<v Speaker 1>that hard, especially when you try to download Chrome or

0:50:19.239 --> 0:50:21.319
<v Speaker 1>do anything with Chrome for the first couple of times.

0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:23.799
<v Speaker 1>So he's like, hey, we're right here, We've got our

0:50:23.840 --> 0:50:26.359
<v Speaker 1>own version. Why don't you try this out. It's kind

0:50:26.360 --> 0:50:27.080
<v Speaker 1>of the same thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I have gotten done with Google Chrome, asking me

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<v Speaker 5>if I wanted to turn it into my default.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Microsoft has been I guess after that whole uh you know,

0:50:39.239 --> 0:50:41.440
<v Speaker 1>that whole anti trust thing back in the nineties. Everyone's

0:50:41.480 --> 0:50:44.360
<v Speaker 1>forgotten about that, but I it's we're past that anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So, can you tap the Windows key on your computer

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<v Speaker 1>and can you search Chrome?

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<v Speaker 2>And does that not come up? Because it made me.

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<v Speaker 5>I searched it done and it is like he deleted

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<v Speaker 5>all the files somehow, really.

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<v Speaker 15>Had a lot of information and Google Chrome and portals

0:51:01.880 --> 0:51:04.160
<v Speaker 15>that I use and everything you've gone.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, Google Chrome remembers something password, so way to go.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, my friend, here is what he did is

0:51:12.640 --> 0:51:14.160
<v Speaker 5>he reads.

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<v Speaker 6>Restore to the system restore.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, sure, sure, he brought did a restore point.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so he's doing it. But it's like it's been

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<v Speaker 5>almost an hour and it's still.

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<v Speaker 15>You know, it says please wait, well your windows, well,

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<v Speaker 15>then setting are being restored.

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<v Speaker 1>Well before I would have done that, I probably would

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<v Speaker 1>have recommended just re downloading Chrome because if you were

0:51:39.719 --> 0:51:42.200
<v Speaker 1>signed in on Chrome, all of your stuff will come

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<v Speaker 1>back magically. So okay, yeah, so I would have done

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<v Speaker 1>that before you Yeah, I would have done that before

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<v Speaker 1>the restore point, because the restore point is kind of like,

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<v Speaker 1>if it works, it'll be great, you know, hopefully it will,

0:51:55.320 --> 0:51:57.279
<v Speaker 1>but it may not bring it back and it may

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<v Speaker 1>not do everything properly, so.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh would be able to stop it.

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<v Speaker 1>I would not stop it at this point, no, because

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<v Speaker 1>if you stop it in halfway, you could have an

0:52:06.600 --> 0:52:09.319
<v Speaker 1>issue with corrupt files. So I would not do that.

0:52:10.760 --> 0:52:13.359
<v Speaker 1>But gus, here's my advice. So I would wait, wait

0:52:13.400 --> 0:52:17.560
<v Speaker 1>till the restore h wait till the restore completes, and

0:52:17.680 --> 0:52:19.640
<v Speaker 1>see if Chrome is back on there and your computer

0:52:19.840 --> 0:52:22.200
<v Speaker 1>is back to the way it was. A restore point

0:52:22.280 --> 0:52:24.760
<v Speaker 1>is kind of like a time machine for your computer,

0:52:24.920 --> 0:52:27.640
<v Speaker 1>so you're going back to a moment in time before

0:52:28.200 --> 0:52:31.680
<v Speaker 1>a specific problem happened with your computer, and hopefully, by

0:52:31.680 --> 0:52:33.640
<v Speaker 1>going back to that point in time, everything's back the

0:52:33.680 --> 0:52:37.240
<v Speaker 1>way it was, but in the future, Chrome will keep

0:52:37.640 --> 0:52:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Chrome is one hundred percent web based, so all the

0:52:40.719 --> 0:52:43.640
<v Speaker 1>settings and things that are happening on Chrome are are

0:52:43.800 --> 0:52:47.040
<v Speaker 1>copied to the cloud as long as you are signed

0:52:47.040 --> 0:52:50.200
<v Speaker 1>into your Google account. So when you first open up Chrome,

0:52:50.200 --> 0:52:52.440
<v Speaker 1>it will say do you want to sync this, and

0:52:52.480 --> 0:52:54.640
<v Speaker 1>you can tell by the upper right hand corner. If

0:52:54.640 --> 0:52:57.000
<v Speaker 1>you open up Chrome, you should have a little picture

0:52:57.040 --> 0:52:59.120
<v Speaker 1>of yourself in the upper right hand corner. You can

0:52:59.120 --> 0:53:02.200
<v Speaker 1>tap that, maybe your initials, but you can tap that

0:53:02.239 --> 0:53:06.040
<v Speaker 1>and it will tell you Sync is on. So make

0:53:06.080 --> 0:53:08.640
<v Speaker 1>sure that your sink is on on Chrome if you

0:53:08.680 --> 0:53:13.640
<v Speaker 1>don't want to lose your bookmarks, your settings, your extensions,

0:53:13.719 --> 0:53:16.719
<v Speaker 1>anything that you've installed on Chrome will carry over from

0:53:16.719 --> 0:53:19.400
<v Speaker 1>computer to computer as long as you have sync on.

0:53:19.960 --> 0:53:21.799
<v Speaker 1>If you want a little bit more privacy and you

0:53:21.840 --> 0:53:23.960
<v Speaker 1>don't want anything to sync, then you can turn that

0:53:24.080 --> 0:53:26.839
<v Speaker 1>sync off. You can still use Chrome without it being

0:53:26.880 --> 0:53:30.040
<v Speaker 1>sync to the Google servers. So that would be my

0:53:30.080 --> 0:53:33.960
<v Speaker 1>advice Gus in the future is just if somehow Chrome

0:53:34.040 --> 0:53:37.319
<v Speaker 1>goes away, just go ahead and redownload it, sign in

0:53:37.400 --> 0:53:38.440
<v Speaker 1>and you should be fine.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

0:53:40.760 --> 0:53:43.839
<v Speaker 1>Coming up on the show, We've got Dan O'Dowd now

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<v Speaker 1>Brace Yourself. Dan has some pretty pretty thorough thoughts about

0:53:51.680 --> 0:53:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Tesla's self driving and i'll just tell you he does

0:53:54.160 --> 0:53:58.480
<v Speaker 1>not like it. So it's an interesting interview. Dan O'Dowd

0:53:58.680 --> 0:54:02.239
<v Speaker 1>is with the Dawn Project and he basically thinks that

0:54:02.560 --> 0:54:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Tesla's full self driving software is not ready for the street.

0:54:06.000 --> 0:54:09.400
<v Speaker 1>So he's coming up soon. Before we go to that,

0:54:09.560 --> 0:54:12.000
<v Speaker 1>let me just tell you about this real quick. This

0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:14.600
<v Speaker 1>is an interesting idea. It's a pendant that you wear

0:54:15.160 --> 0:54:18.440
<v Speaker 1>that records pretty much everything in your life. Ninety nine

0:54:18.520 --> 0:54:21.640
<v Speaker 1>dollars for this pendant. It's called the Limitless and it

0:54:21.719 --> 0:54:25.960
<v Speaker 1>records your meetings and anything else you want in life.

0:54:26.040 --> 0:54:27.680
<v Speaker 1>You wear it around your neck if you want, or

0:54:27.680 --> 0:54:30.440
<v Speaker 1>you can clip it to your shirt. It will record

0:54:30.480 --> 0:54:32.719
<v Speaker 1>the audio and then put it all into sort of

0:54:32.760 --> 0:54:36.520
<v Speaker 1>your personal chat GPT. Ninety nine dollars for the device

0:54:36.880 --> 0:54:39.400
<v Speaker 1>and nineteen dollars a month if you want all the features.

0:54:39.440 --> 0:54:42.640
<v Speaker 1>But it has unlimited cloud storage, one hundred hours of

0:54:42.640 --> 0:54:45.560
<v Speaker 1>battery life. Is this the future? We are coming into

0:54:46.160 --> 0:54:50.000
<v Speaker 1>our entire lives recorded. You can search anything that you said,

0:54:50.080 --> 0:54:51.720
<v Speaker 1>anything you've interacted with people.

0:54:51.840 --> 0:54:54.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, I kind of want it. You're listening

0:54:54.400 --> 0:54:55.560
<v Speaker 2>to rich On Tech.

0:54:56.080 --> 0:54:57.480
<v Speaker 11>Welcome back to rich On Tech.

0:54:57.600 --> 0:54:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, talking tech now

0:55:00.520 --> 0:55:03.040
<v Speaker 1>at triple eight Rich one oh one. That's eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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<v Speaker 11>Joining me now is.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan O'Dowd, green Hill Software CEO and founder of the

0:55:11.160 --> 0:55:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Dawn Project, trying to make computers safer for humanity and

0:55:16.120 --> 0:55:20.360
<v Speaker 1>a specific interest on banning Tesla full self driving.

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<v Speaker 11>Dan, thanks so much for joining me today.

0:55:22.719 --> 0:55:23.359
<v Speaker 10>Good to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>So first off, give me a little background. Tell me

0:55:25.960 --> 0:55:30.360
<v Speaker 1>what Greenhill Software does and why you started this Dawn project.

0:55:31.520 --> 0:55:36.680
<v Speaker 10>Green Hills Software developed software for safety critical systems such

0:55:36.680 --> 0:55:41.240
<v Speaker 10>as airplanes and cars are two biggest areas.

0:55:41.560 --> 0:55:43.480
<v Speaker 11>And what about the Dawn Project? What is that? What

0:55:43.560 --> 0:55:45.200
<v Speaker 11>made you start that? And what is it?

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<v Speaker 10>So the Dawn Project is a realization that I had

0:55:48.160 --> 0:55:51.600
<v Speaker 10>some years ago that we are putting computers in charge

0:55:51.800 --> 0:55:55.239
<v Speaker 10>of systems that people's lives depend on. And it's in

0:55:55.360 --> 0:55:57.640
<v Speaker 10>small way, but now it's become very large. We're putting

0:55:57.680 --> 0:55:59.839
<v Speaker 10>them in our cars, We're putting them in the power

0:56:00.360 --> 0:56:05.000
<v Speaker 10>which we can't live without, and water treatment plants, all

0:56:05.040 --> 0:56:09.600
<v Speaker 10>these things a large infrastructure people's lives literally depend on.

0:56:09.680 --> 0:56:09.839
<v Speaker 1>It.

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<v Speaker 10>If they go out, people will die. And yet we're

0:56:13.160 --> 0:56:16.280
<v Speaker 10>putting software to control those devices. That's the same stuff

0:56:16.280 --> 0:56:19.600
<v Speaker 10>that we use on our desktops, which fail quite regularly.

0:56:20.239 --> 0:56:25.600
<v Speaker 10>And the Dawn Project is advocacy group basically get people

0:56:25.640 --> 0:56:27.960
<v Speaker 10>to realize this and also to say we need to

0:56:28.000 --> 0:56:30.719
<v Speaker 10>set better standards. We need to test that software and

0:56:30.719 --> 0:56:35.120
<v Speaker 10>make sure it's reliable. And one of our first examples

0:56:35.280 --> 0:56:40.120
<v Speaker 10>is the full self driving product from Tesla, where it's

0:56:40.239 --> 0:56:42.479
<v Speaker 10>driving your car, it's controlling your car, your hands aren't

0:56:42.480 --> 0:56:45.480
<v Speaker 10>even on the steering wheel, and it's driving, it's turning,

0:56:45.520 --> 0:56:49.480
<v Speaker 10>it's stopping at stop lights. But it's very, very unreliable.

0:56:50.360 --> 0:56:53.560
<v Speaker 10>In fact, it's like it's unlikely to go one hour

0:56:53.960 --> 0:56:58.200
<v Speaker 10>without trying to crash, without making a serious mistake, crashing

0:56:58.239 --> 0:57:02.880
<v Speaker 10>into some other car on the road, in a parking lot, anywhere.

0:57:02.920 --> 0:57:06.360
<v Speaker 10>It's it's really clumsy. It's amazingly bad. You never know

0:57:06.400 --> 0:57:08.040
<v Speaker 10>what it's going to do. It you're driving along and

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<v Speaker 10>it'll just suddenly jerk the wheel into another lane, into

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<v Speaker 10>a parked car, and it's frightening. You think you're going

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<v Speaker 10>to die. I don't want that in my car. There's

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<v Speaker 10>no reason to have something that is that effective that

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<v Speaker 10>in an hour, two hours, three hours, it's going to

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<v Speaker 10>literally try to kill you.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Tesla just recently lowered the price of their self

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<v Speaker 1>driving software. So it used to be two hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a month. Now it's one hundred dollars a month. They

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<v Speaker 1>call it full self driving Supervised. But the reality is

0:57:39.160 --> 0:57:42.040
<v Speaker 1>many more people are going to subscribe to this and

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<v Speaker 1>use it because of this lower price. What does that

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<v Speaker 1>tell you? What are you worried about that?

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, that that people will try it? Now, what we

0:57:52.640 --> 0:57:55.440
<v Speaker 10>good There is a piece of good news here the product.

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<v Speaker 10>You can buy it outright for twelve thousand dollars, or

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<v Speaker 10>you can pay ninety nine dollars a month. It used

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<v Speaker 10>to be two hundred dollars a month, one ninety nine

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<v Speaker 10>just until a few days ago. But what we discovered

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<v Speaker 10>is people who fought this product and put it in

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<v Speaker 10>their car, they're not using it. Eighty five percent of

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<v Speaker 10>the time. They were very excited. They heard a hout

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<v Speaker 10>how great it is. Right now, Elon Musk is around

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<v Speaker 10>touting that this is weird on the verge of full autonomy.

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<v Speaker 10>This thing is this, I can see it. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 10>be It's going to be really soon. By the end

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<v Speaker 10>of the year, it's going to be full autonomy. It's

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<v Speaker 10>going to be great. Of course, he said that every

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<v Speaker 10>year for the last decade they say, Okay, this is

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<v Speaker 10>not I'm not going to use this, and they just

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<v Speaker 10>they put it on the shelf and they don't turn

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<v Speaker 10>it on. Every now and then they hear about the

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<v Speaker 10>great new release that solved all the problems, they try

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<v Speaker 10>it again, same problems occur, they stop using it. We're

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<v Speaker 10>actually recommending that people try this, but be very careful.

0:58:46.040 --> 0:58:50.160
<v Speaker 10>As Tesla actually says, it's it's highly unreliable. It can

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<v Speaker 10>swerve for no reason into the other lane, so be

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<v Speaker 10>super careful, be watching it like a hawk. But it

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<v Speaker 10>will do something terrible, and then stop using it. It's

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<v Speaker 10>the only way for people to understand it. I can

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<v Speaker 10>explain it till you've been there and experience the terror yourself.

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<v Speaker 10>I can't tell you how bad it feels.

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<v Speaker 1>How is this allowed to control cars?

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<v Speaker 17>Then?

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<v Speaker 1>Are there no regulations against you know? Don't aren't there

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<v Speaker 1>rules for driving? Like I had to go to a

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<v Speaker 1>driver's z and I had to take a test to

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<v Speaker 1>drive a car.

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<v Speaker 11>How come software is allowed to do whatever? It wants.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, well, we decided to try that, so we took

0:59:27.840 --> 0:59:29.360
<v Speaker 10>it out for a d MD test. You got a

0:59:29.400 --> 0:59:32.040
<v Speaker 10>great video on it showing what happened. It's actually four

0:59:32.080 --> 0:59:35.840
<v Speaker 10>times it did something that the instructor said, you don't

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<v Speaker 10>get your license if you if you do that it, yeah,

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<v Speaker 10>it can't. It can't pass a driver's test. Doesn't know

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<v Speaker 10>what a do not enter sign is, simply simply doesn't

0:59:44.520 --> 0:59:47.320
<v Speaker 10>understand it. If you have a school bus, it stops,

0:59:47.360 --> 0:59:49.360
<v Speaker 10>the rights are flashing, the stop sign is out, the

0:59:49.400 --> 0:59:51.920
<v Speaker 10>kids are getting off the bus. It'll go right by

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<v Speaker 10>it at forty miles an hour. It's amazing. You get

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<v Speaker 10>to a school zone it says forty miles an hour

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<v Speaker 10>twenty five when children present, it'll drive forty miles an

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<v Speaker 10>hour through that zone with kids all over the place.

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<v Speaker 10>We've got videos of this. If there's a kid in

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<v Speaker 10>a school crosswalk walking across the road, that has to

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<v Speaker 10>be kind of a small child. Big ones it you

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<v Speaker 10>can see, but a small child, it will run them down.

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<v Speaker 10>We have videos to show that as well. It's really

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<v Speaker 10>quite amazing. We have been to Nitza with the federal government,

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<v Speaker 10>to the state government of the DMB We've shown them

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<v Speaker 10>the videos a year ago and they still haven't fixed

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<v Speaker 10>the problems. They claim it's not a self driving car

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<v Speaker 10>and therefore they're not subject to the self driving car regulation,

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<v Speaker 10>so they can pretty much do what they want, which

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<v Speaker 10>I think is completely wrong. But that's where we stand today.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you see any benefit to this full self driving

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<v Speaker 1>technology or do you think it should be banned entirely?

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<v Speaker 10>What they need to do is take it off the market.

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<v Speaker 10>It needs to be recalled. It needs to be off

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<v Speaker 10>the market. They need to fix all of these problems

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<v Speaker 10>before they put it back on.

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<v Speaker 11>What Tesla is doing is one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>How does it compare to what other automakers are doing

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<v Speaker 1>in the driving area?

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<v Speaker 10>Tesla is the worst by far. They claim to be

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<v Speaker 10>the leader in automobile, in autonomous vehicles, The truth is

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<v Speaker 10>there in last place, it is absolutely terrible. You can

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<v Speaker 10>go right now, you're you're in La. They've got weaymos.

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<v Speaker 10>You can call up a Weimo in Los Angeles and

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<v Speaker 10>it will come to you. No driver, pick you up

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<v Speaker 10>in Los almost everywhere in Los Angeles to almost everywhere

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<v Speaker 10>else in Los Angeles and drive you there.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're not against this idea of cars driving us

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<v Speaker 1>and you actually think that Weimo does a good job,

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<v Speaker 1>a better job than.

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<v Speaker 10>Tesla a hundred times. It's not even comparable. It's working

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<v Speaker 10>quite well.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think the difference is? Tesla has a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of money, They've got a lot of engineers. Weimo

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<v Speaker 1>is part of Google. They have more sensors on their cars.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what it is?

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<v Speaker 11>What do you think Tesla needs to do to fix this?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, definitely the sensor is an issue, right, They've got

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<v Speaker 10>they've got the light r and they've got radar and

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<v Speaker 10>ultrasonic sensors as well that Tesla does not have. That

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<v Speaker 10>has to contribute. They do say that. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 10>you ask the people the way of people Google people,

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<v Speaker 10>they'll say it's essential. You can't think you can that

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<v Speaker 10>you can build a self driving car without without those

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<v Speaker 10>without lighter. But Elon Musk personally says that's not true.

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<v Speaker 10>It's ridiculous. He says I can drive. He says, I

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<v Speaker 10>can drive my own car. I don't need light ar,

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<v Speaker 10>I just have two eyes. I can do it. Why

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<v Speaker 10>can't we do it with cameras well? One reason is

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<v Speaker 10>your cameras your eyes are about five hundred times more

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<v Speaker 10>resolution than those cameras they have, they have one megapixel cameras.

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<v Speaker 1>So what is your advice to consumers Tesla owners who

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<v Speaker 1>see this at you know, the free trial or the

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine dollars a month, what's your advice to them?

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<v Speaker 5>Try it?

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<v Speaker 10>But and I'm just quoting what Tesla says, be like

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<v Speaker 10>a hawk. You know it's going to try to kill

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<v Speaker 10>you. You know it's going to try to crash into a

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<v Speaker 10>parked car or across the yellow line or whatever. You

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<v Speaker 10>sit there and you have to be watching continuously everywhere.

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<v Speaker 10>You have to look at the lanes beside you to

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<v Speaker 10>make sure that they're nobody there because it will do

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<v Speaker 10>something crazy. You just have to be sitting there waiting

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<v Speaker 10>for it. This is no fun. You are supervising. You

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<v Speaker 10>are in charge of making sure when it does something

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<v Speaker 10>dumb and it will, that you save the car. You

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<v Speaker 10>save the car and then your life.

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<v Speaker 11>So I'm curious with your Green Hills software.

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<v Speaker 1>You said you you super specialize in safety software for

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<v Speaker 1>different planes and cars. Are you trying to build a

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<v Speaker 1>world where your software is in the Tesla or they

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<v Speaker 1>purchased something like some people might say like, hey, don't

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<v Speaker 1>you have a conflict of interest here because you make

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<v Speaker 1>this software that can make cars safer.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, I mean, you know if you had you know,

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<v Speaker 10>if you had a vaccine for medicine, would you not

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<v Speaker 10>tell people that you know that you can solve their problem?

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<v Speaker 10>I'm not. I actually I was. I've been advertising on

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<v Speaker 10>Twitter for people to take the free trial. So there's

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<v Speaker 10>right now a free trial two million. Everybody who has

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<v Speaker 10>a Tesla can download the full self driving for free

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<v Speaker 10>for one month and drive it all they want. I'm

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<v Speaker 10>actually advertising on Twitter that people to do that, just

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<v Speaker 10>so they can understand how bad it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you say anything nice about the Tesla that's not

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<v Speaker 1>related to the self driving? Do you think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>good automobile and the whole ev movement or no?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, I own to eight Tesla's. My roadsters are my

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<v Speaker 10>favorite things. Driving to work is my favorite activity of

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<v Speaker 10>the day, and driving home because in the road story,

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<v Speaker 10>it's the best car ever made in my opinion. My

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<v Speaker 10>wife's been driving a Model S since twenty twelve. It's

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<v Speaker 10>the same one. It's over eleven years old. It's the

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<v Speaker 10>family car, and it works great and we've always been

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<v Speaker 10>happy with it.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Dan O'Dowd, how can folks learn more about

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<v Speaker 1>the Dawn.

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<v Speaker 10>Project Dawnproject dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan O'Dowd Greenhill Software, CEO and founder of the Dawn Project,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 11>For joining me today.

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<v Speaker 10>Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's go to William. Whoops, that's not William. There's William,

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<v Speaker 18>Hi, Rich, thanks for taking my call.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what can I help with?

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<v Speaker 18>Well, occasionally we are I'm unable to go to church,

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<v Speaker 18>maybe due to sickness or whatever, so we live stream

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<v Speaker 18>it on the TV and we go through a PS four.

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<v Speaker 18>And what I'm finding is that when we do that,

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<v Speaker 18>but in an hour's amount of time, sometimes two, three,

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<v Speaker 18>or even four times, the live stream gets cut off

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<v Speaker 18>and we have to I have to back up and

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<v Speaker 18>click on it again, get back into it. And I'm wondering,

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<v Speaker 18>is it the PS four or could it be my TV?

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<v Speaker 18>I'm certain it's not white by because I can watch

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<v Speaker 18>Netflix or YouTube and no problems.

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<v Speaker 3>All.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, But here's the thing. Number one, how are you

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<v Speaker 1>streaming this? Does this on like a website?

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<v Speaker 18>Yeah, we go, I go onto the PS four, I

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<v Speaker 18>go into the WWW, and then I click on their

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<v Speaker 18>website and then click on the online button.

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<v Speaker 2>So so number one.

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<v Speaker 1>So YouTube and Netflix are companies one hundred built around streaming.

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<v Speaker 1>So they are the best technology for the best technology

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<v Speaker 1>for streaming known to mankind. So their entire technology is

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<v Speaker 1>getting a stream to start on almost any speed connection

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<v Speaker 1>and still be super high quality. So they have built

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<v Speaker 1>the best technology, and those two companies, specifically YouTube and Netflix,

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<v Speaker 1>probably have the best streaming technology in the entire world.

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<v Speaker 1>So that is why they always work and you never

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<v Speaker 1>see an issue with the streaming on those two services.

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<v Speaker 1>Now when it comes to your local church, they are

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<v Speaker 1>using a third party streaming service, and there are so

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<v Speaker 1>many points of failure between the church and your house

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<v Speaker 1>that could be contributing to an issue with that live stream.

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<v Speaker 1>So the first thing I would do is just ask

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else that's watching the live stream, like are you

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<v Speaker 1>having issues? Like is this buffering for you? Like talk

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<v Speaker 1>to the congregation and see what the folks there are

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<v Speaker 1>saying about this. So if everyone's having an issue, it

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<v Speaker 1>could be the way the signal is being sent out

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<v Speaker 1>from the church. It could be the system that they're

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<v Speaker 1>using to live stream this. Maybe one day if they

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<v Speaker 1>use like Facebook or something or even YouTube to live stream,

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<v Speaker 1>it comes through perfectly and it could be your PS

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<v Speaker 1>four receiving that signal. But you're saying that the Netflix

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<v Speaker 1>and all the YouTube stuff works properly. So the reality

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<v Speaker 1>is there's there's so many variables with a live stream

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<v Speaker 1>that's originating from a local church versus a stream that

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<v Speaker 1>is coming from Netflix or YouTube. So my advice kind

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<v Speaker 1>of investigate, talk to the church, have them maybe send

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<v Speaker 1>out a survey is this happening to other people? And

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they can, you know, investigate the service that they're

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<v Speaker 1>using to send out this live stream. It could be

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe they need to upgrade the plan, could be

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<v Speaker 1>that they need to upgrade the connection that they're using.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they using Wi Fi to send out the signal

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<v Speaker 1>or are they using an Ethernet connection? So all of

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<v Speaker 1>these things could make a very big difference in what

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<v Speaker 1>the live stream looks like and how it arrives to

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<v Speaker 1>your house, and also how it looks when it gets

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<v Speaker 1>to your house. So good question, William. Thanks for the

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<v Speaker 1>call today from Chino, California. Let's go to Bill in

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<v Speaker 1>Santa Monica, Bill your Own with Rich.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I want to relay an exasperating experience that I

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<v Speaker 9>had over at Walmart involving Mobile X, which was featured

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<v Speaker 9>last week on your show. Essentially, the departments are abandoned

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<v Speaker 9>of store personnel. Everything is behind plexiglass fee through but can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Touch Yep, that's happening.

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<v Speaker 9>There is no indication that Mobile X is being promoted.

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<v Speaker 9>And I had to track down a staff personnel to

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<v Speaker 9>basically find out about Mobile X. And apparently the only

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<v Speaker 9>thing that they have, and it's locked behind the counter,

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<v Speaker 9>a full box of SIM cards for Mobile X. They

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<v Speaker 9>don't carry Mobile X phones. They don't carry unlocked phones

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<v Speaker 9>that would be appropriate for the SIM card. I asked

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<v Speaker 9>the person, I have a locked phone from another carrier.

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<v Speaker 9>Would it be possible to install the SIM card in

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<v Speaker 9>a locked phone? Is there any feasibility for doing that?

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<v Speaker 9>He doesn't know. Is there a manager in the department?

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<v Speaker 9>No manager today. Would the manager know anymore than the

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<v Speaker 9>staff person I'm talking to? He doesn't know. There is

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<v Speaker 9>no literature on Mobile X over there. And my second

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<v Speaker 9>question would be, because I've always been told to avoid

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<v Speaker 9>the Moto unlocked phones that best Buy cells, are there

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<v Speaker 9>any unlocked phones that you recommend that are in a

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<v Speaker 9>reasonable price range?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Absolutely so.

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<v Speaker 1>The first one I'd probably recommend is Now, are you

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<v Speaker 1>buying this in a store or are you buying it online?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to go to a store.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, basically, I am an old time shopper and I

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<v Speaker 9>prefer to look at the merchandise.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so I understand that, so I think the best

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<v Speaker 1>I think the best like unlocked phone out there is

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<v Speaker 1>probably going to be something like the Google Pixel seven A.

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<v Speaker 1>But the problem is Google is coming out their new

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<v Speaker 1>phone very soon, the AA that's going to be announced

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<v Speaker 1>probably May fifteenth.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would I would hold off.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to buy a Pixel, but I would say

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<v Speaker 1>a phone like that is going to give you the

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<v Speaker 1>least amount of issues with the software and the hardware,

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<v Speaker 1>like if you want a nice phone that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>last for a very long time and not give you

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of And by the way, the software on

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<v Speaker 1>these phones are updated for like almost I think Google

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<v Speaker 1>announced seven years last time, really, but we have to

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<v Speaker 1>wait for the for the eight A, not the seven A.

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<v Speaker 1>That one is still last year's model. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>still great, but my point is the new one's coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>The other phone I would take a look at is

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<v Speaker 1>the one plus Nord that is a really good, unlocked,

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<v Speaker 1>inexpensive phone. The other one is the Nothing. But these

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<v Speaker 1>are all phones that you have to go yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's the Nothing to A and that is like probably

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<v Speaker 1>every single person that I didn't review it because you

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<v Speaker 1>have to sign up for a developers account, which you know, Bill,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you probably want to go through that.

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<v Speaker 1>But to answer your question about these Motorola phones, I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're fine because they don't have too much bloatwear

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<v Speaker 1>on them. I don't think the camera is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be as good and the software, you know, it's pretty good,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty clean and well.

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<v Speaker 9>I was told about the Motive phones is that they

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<v Speaker 9>simply don't operate there or they don't update they're operating.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's very often. Yeah, that was my issue.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think if you want that, I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Google Pixel like this, the a lineup for the Google

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<v Speaker 1>Pixel is going to be your best bet. Or you

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<v Speaker 1>can even get the Pixel eight on sale at a

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<v Speaker 1>decent price. And again you can keep that for seven years,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's a long time, and they update the software

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<v Speaker 1>on a regular basis.

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<v Speaker 2>Now real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>With respect to the whole Walmart and Mobile X, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the issue with saving money on your phone line

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<v Speaker 1>like this. With these mv and os, there are many

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<v Speaker 1>of them that are a lot cheaper. The problem is

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<v Speaker 1>it is mostly deiy which means you're doing everything yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>There's not a huge customer service component unless you're interacting

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<v Speaker 1>with these companies online. Eighty eight rich one O one

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<v Speaker 1>eighty eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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<v Speaker 1>This is rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Rich Tomuro here with you for another hour at eight

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<v Speaker 1>You can find me on X you can find me

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram, you can find me on Facebook, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know where else can you find me? Just depends Threads. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm you know, I don't. I'm not really doing the Threads.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I can't get into it. It's two, uh

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<v Speaker 1>you know, between the other three. It's already enough. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know some people cross posts and things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>but Threads is just not doing it. Also the problem

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<v Speaker 1>is if I was on Instagram, Facebook and Threads, one

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<v Speaker 1>company would control all of my social media meta and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know I always recommend third party kind

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<v Speaker 1>of software and stuff like that. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be beholden to just one company, so I do try

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<v Speaker 1>to put my stuff in different places.

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<v Speaker 2>Very excited for our interview this hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Rosi Okamura, also known better known as Rosie Irl.

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<v Speaker 2>She is a voice.

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<v Speaker 1>Actor and content creator. She does something really fun. She

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<v Speaker 1>does these videos where she prank calls scam callers, and

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<v Speaker 1>since she's a voice actor, she does some really fun things.

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<v Speaker 1>These videos get pretty wild and she just messes with

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<v Speaker 1>these people to waste their time, and she also offers

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<v Speaker 1>people tips on how to stay safe. So we will

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<v Speaker 1>talk to her later this hour. Very excited for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to Edward in Tampa, Florida. Edward, you're on

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<v Speaker 1>with Rich.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 17>Rich, it's great to hear.

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<v Speaker 16>I always listened to your show every Saturday. And excuse

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<v Speaker 16>me if I mentioned this, but since I'm wasn't working,

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<v Speaker 16>I had to. I did the cheap, cheap way of

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<v Speaker 16>get in the new battery at Battery Plus. But I

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<v Speaker 16>have a iPhone, etc. And your producer will tell me

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<v Speaker 16>obviously there's upgrade SCS. What is your recommendation if I

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<v Speaker 16>want to stick.

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<v Speaker 9>With se.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>So the first thing I do is I go to

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<v Speaker 1>the mac Rumors Buyer's guide.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is a have you heard of this website?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 16>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So this is a great site, which what they

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<v Speaker 1>do is they log all of the different Apple products,

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<v Speaker 1>so every iPhone, every maccomputer, every iPad, because pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>every product that Apple makes is on a certain cycle

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<v Speaker 1>until they come out with the new product. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go to that macro's Buyer's Guide dot MacRumors dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Before you buy any Apple product, you should always consult

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<v Speaker 1>this because you don't want to buy a product and

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<v Speaker 1>then three weeks later or four weeks later, they come

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<v Speaker 1>out with a new one. So I click iPhone S

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<v Speaker 1>and the latest one was put out in March twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two. Now do you have the one that was

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<v Speaker 1>before that?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 16>If I had a guess, I'm gonna say it was

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<v Speaker 16>twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So you have the original se So this is

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<v Speaker 1>the this is the second version of it, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a great little phone. It's it's still got the fingerprint reader.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it was about I think it was four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty nine dollars. It's got the latest chip in it,

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<v Speaker 1>or the latest chip at that time, five G. But

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing, it's been seven hundred and seventy four

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<v Speaker 1>days since they came out with that phone. The average

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<v Speaker 1>release time between iPhone ses is seven hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five days. Now, there's two things going on here. Number One,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure that Apple will come out with a

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<v Speaker 1>new iPhone se just because they're you know, they have

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<v Speaker 1>moved away from this touch ID, so there's not a guarantee.

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<v Speaker 1>But on the on the flip side, it's an inexpensive

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<v Speaker 1>phone and a lot of people still like that fingerprint sensor.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm looking at the now. The other thing this art,

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<v Speaker 1>this website does really well is it puts all the

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<v Speaker 1>articles about these devices on the right hand side, so

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<v Speaker 1>I can see April second, they just had an article

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<v Speaker 1>and uh March twenty seventh, and it looks like they

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna come out with a new iPhone s so

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<v Speaker 1>SC four and it looks like it's gonna have a

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<v Speaker 1>six point one inch screen. It looks like it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have an iPhone fourteen like design. So my advice to

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<v Speaker 1>you is to probably wait. If you want to stick

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<v Speaker 1>with the fingerprint sensor, just wait. Wait for any day

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<v Speaker 1>Apple might say, hey, we have a new iPhone se.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't expect them to announce this in June at

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<v Speaker 1>their next event, So we're talking anytime between now and June.

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<v Speaker 1>They could probably put out a press release and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the new iPhone.

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<v Speaker 16>Se run that WebCAT again for me, because I want

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<v Speaker 16>to write this. I got something to write on.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, it's Buyer's Guide dot dot mac rumors, MacRumors dot com,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course I'll link that up on my website,

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<v Speaker 1>rich on tip dot tv. But that is a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>are you not wanting to go with the face ID

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<v Speaker 1>with the standard iPhone or what?

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<v Speaker 16>No, I don't need all the fancy stuff. So I'm

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<v Speaker 16>pretty satisfied. Which is the basic gadgets in it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, because they are, you know, if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to get if you do decide that you want to go,

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<v Speaker 1>get a little bit of an upgrade with a face ID,

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<v Speaker 1>which I actually do really think is handy. The iPhone thirteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Apple is still officially selling that. It starts at five

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine, and so the main thing is that you

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<v Speaker 1>know that phone is also a couple of years old.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to see the processor inside that phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see here. I can't. I don't see it. Off

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<v Speaker 2>the top of this website right here. Oh, here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>iPhone fourteen let's see here. Okay, so there's still a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of them are still using that A fifteen Bionic

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<v Speaker 1>and they're up to the A seventeen. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't mind the you know, slightly older iPhone,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you're going to be just fine. These things

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<v Speaker 1>are still that the processors that Apple has put out

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<v Speaker 1>in the last couple of years have been incredible.

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<v Speaker 16>So yeah, the good needs to be a sure thing

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<v Speaker 16>is thought. That would be working at a hospital job,

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<v Speaker 16>so obviously with that's going to be helpful, I'll have

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<v Speaker 16>an option to do the older then, so that's going

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<v Speaker 16>to great. Could be patient's all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would say be patient if you still want

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<v Speaker 1>to go with that. Se I would not buy the

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<v Speaker 1>one that's currently available, just because it seems like any

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<v Speaker 1>day now there will be a new one, so I

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<v Speaker 1>would just wait. Yeah, yeah, okay you patients is key Edward,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for the call today. Appreciate it. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've opened up your Instagram this weekend, maybe you've

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<v Speaker 1>noticed something new on the search bar when you go

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<v Speaker 1>to your message area. It now says in the search bar,

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<v Speaker 1>ask Meta AI anything. This is a huge push by

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<v Speaker 1>Meta which obviously owns Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, Messenger. They are

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<v Speaker 1>pushing their new Meta AI. It's just like chat GPT,

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<v Speaker 1>except it is trained on all kinds of stuff, including

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<v Speaker 1>all the social media posts and pictures that we've been

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<v Speaker 1>uploading for the past I don't know, ten years or

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<v Speaker 1>so onto Facebook. So Meta AI, if if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to access it, you can do it right through Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>right through Facebook, right through WhatsApp, right through Messenger. Just

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<v Speaker 1>tap in that little search bar and it says, ask

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<v Speaker 1>Meta AI anything.

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<v Speaker 2>What can you ask it?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, pretty much anything that you would ask chat ebt

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<v Speaker 1>you can ask. It's given me suggestions here tips for

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<v Speaker 1>home renovation, five cross country road trip tips. Screenwriting advice

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<v Speaker 1>that must be local for the LA folks.

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<v Speaker 2>I kid you not.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in a coffee place the other day, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the fanciest coffee places I've ever been, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was doing a story, and I kid you not, I

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<v Speaker 1>saw the stereotypical person writing the screenplay in Hollywood at

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<v Speaker 1>the coffee shop, and I just had to laugh to

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<v Speaker 1>myself because here we are in La and everyone, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's a creator here. Everyone's a writer here, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was just laughing. I was like, I'm not sure I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever actually seen that in real life, but hey, these

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<v Speaker 1>things have to be written somewhere, and why not do

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<v Speaker 1>it at a very lux coffee shop. Like I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even look at the prices of the lattes here, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing probably ten dollars because even Starbucks now is

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<v Speaker 1>like up to like six I bought I got a

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<v Speaker 1>cold brew the other day and it was like six bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why I don't buy my coffee out because

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot justify six dollars on a cup of coffee

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<v Speaker 1>at least here in La If I do get it,

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<v Speaker 1>I always get the standard just black coffee for like

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's up to three dollars now for a cup.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm also so cheap I won't even get their creamer.

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<v Speaker 1>I will bring my own creamer and I will put

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<v Speaker 1>it in when I get to work because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to pay the extra fifty cents to a dollar

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<v Speaker 1>for that. Believe me, That's how I am. Yeah, Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, Messenger.

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<v Speaker 2>You can try it.

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<v Speaker 1>You can also try this on the website Meta dot Ai,

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<v Speaker 1>but here's the cool thing that I think you should

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<v Speaker 1>try before you do anything else. Go to the website

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<v Speaker 1>Meta dot ai. This is very different from any the

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<v Speaker 1>other AI out there. They have an image generator image

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<v Speaker 1>generator called Imagine, and what's so cool about it is

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<v Speaker 1>that all the other image generators you have to type

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<v Speaker 1>something in and wait for it to generate that image.

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<v Speaker 1>But on Meta AI, it regenerates the image as you type.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can start by typing alien and it will

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<v Speaker 1>generate that image on the fly you'll see it. But

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<v Speaker 1>then you can say alien, that's blue, and it will

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<v Speaker 1>regenerate a blue alien as you're typing. And you can

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<v Speaker 1>say that's silly, and it will regenerate a silly alien

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<v Speaker 1>that's blue. I mean, it's really really quite incredible what

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing with this Imagine image generation. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>try nothing else, go to meta dot ai and click

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<v Speaker 1>the Imagine image generator on the left hand side of

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<v Speaker 1>the page and try it out. You do have to

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<v Speaker 1>be logged in to your meta account, Facebook, Instagram, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>to try the image generator, but you can use meta

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<v Speaker 1>AI on the website without being logged in, So try

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<v Speaker 1>that out. And one more item of note here if

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<v Speaker 1>you have an older Samsung phone now we're talking the

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<v Speaker 1>S twenty two, the Galaxy Z Fold four, the z

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<v Speaker 1>Flip four, and the Galaxy tab S eight, you are

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<v Speaker 1>getting You're getting a car. You're getting a car. You're

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<v Speaker 1>getting a car. You are getting Galaxy AI features. So

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<v Speaker 1>in May, early May. If you have one of these

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<v Speaker 1>older Galaxy S twenty two, so now we're talking a

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<v Speaker 1>phone that's a couple of years old, you are getting

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<v Speaker 1>the Galaxy AI features. Circle to Search, which is awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>Chat Assist interpreter, live Translate, noticeist, transcript Assist, browsing Assist,

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<v Speaker 1>Generative Edit. All of these features that came out with

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<v Speaker 1>the Galaxy S twenty four are now coming to phones

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<v Speaker 1>that are two years old. That is incredible. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Samsung is on a tear right now with not only

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<v Speaker 1>the quality of their phones, but also the updates on

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<v Speaker 1>their software. So if you stuck with that older phone,

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<v Speaker 1>you are getting the new AI features. Look at that,

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<v Speaker 1>you're saving money and you're still getting to try some

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<v Speaker 1>of these awesome new features. Triple eight rich one O

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<v Speaker 1>one eighty eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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<v Speaker 1>Very excited for my guests this hour Rosie Okamora. She

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<v Speaker 1>is going to talk about how she prank calls scam

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<v Speaker 1>callers and gets them at their own game. You are

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<v Speaker 1>listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you talking technology website

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned on the show. Go to the website and

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<v Speaker 1>hit the light bulb icon up at the top.

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<v Speaker 2>Rick on Thousand Oaks, what's up, Hi?

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<v Speaker 17>My mother recently moved and her shelf service is really

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<v Speaker 17>really body and bad, and I was wondering, is there

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<v Speaker 17>a website where you could enter her address and it

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<v Speaker 17>would tell you the cell sites closest to your house

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<v Speaker 17>and the carriers on it, so you can kind of

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<v Speaker 17>make a intelligent decision on which carrier you choose.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a couple websites that do this.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't say that they all work perfectly, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think that it can give you an idea. Now, number one,

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<v Speaker 1>there's only three cell carriers in the US three major carriers. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got T Mobile, You've got Verizon, You've got AT

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<v Speaker 1>and T. All of the other carriers or most of

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<v Speaker 1>the other carriers run on those three networks. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just generalizing here. Yes, there are some smaller carriers out there,

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<v Speaker 1>but those are the main ones. So my advice always

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<v Speaker 1>is to just get a friend and nine times out

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<v Speaker 1>of ten, you've got a friend on one of these networks,

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<v Speaker 1>have them come into the house and try to make

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<v Speaker 1>a call, try to use the internet, do a speed test,

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<v Speaker 1>look at the signal from their phone, and that'll give

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<v Speaker 1>you a really good idea. Because the problem with all

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<v Speaker 1>of these website coverage maps. Number one, you can't trust

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that are on the carrier websites because they

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<v Speaker 1>just show you that there is a signal. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>show you how good that signal is, and even if

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<v Speaker 1>it does, you can't really know because there are so

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<v Speaker 1>many variables with the home or the interior that you're

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<v Speaker 1>going into. With that said, the website, the websites I

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<v Speaker 1>think you can look at to kind of consult Here

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<v Speaker 1>is number one, CoverageMap dot com. So CoverageMap dot com

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<v Speaker 1>will give you an idea, and these are mostly crowdsourced

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<v Speaker 1>from people, so they these are people that download an app,

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<v Speaker 1>they do a speed test or some sort of signal test,

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<v Speaker 1>and then that information gets fed into these websites, so

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<v Speaker 1>CoverageMap dot com. The thing I like about this one

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<v Speaker 1>is that it's very easy to understand. It's got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of nice filters to go through, and so you

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<v Speaker 1>can put in your address and you can see kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like what is in your area, and it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>color coded. It's very very simple to understand. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>the first stop. The other one, there's a website called

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<v Speaker 1>open Signal and this you want to download the open

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<v Speaker 1>Signal app. So you can go to iPhone or Android

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<v Speaker 1>download the open Signal app and that will give you

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<v Speaker 1>very similar results for the coverage in your area. And

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<v Speaker 1>so you can check that out. There is one. This

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<v Speaker 1>one's a little complicated and I've not used it before,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just found it in searching, and it's called

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<v Speaker 1>cell mapper dot net. And this is like this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of looks a little nerdier than the rest, but if

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<v Speaker 1>you really want some like nerdy signal stats and things

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<v Speaker 1>like that, this one looks like it'll give you it

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<v Speaker 1>Cell Mapper, dot net and the other one is root Metrics,

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<v Speaker 1>So root Metrics now this one. A lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>these are not super local, but they will give you

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<v Speaker 1>information for the or the area. So if you just

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<v Speaker 1>move to a new city and you want to see

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<v Speaker 1>which carrier is strongest in that city overall, that can

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<v Speaker 1>help you. So I'm trying to see if they have Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's more like metro area, so it's not like if

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<v Speaker 1>I want to look for Los Angeles, it will tell

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<v Speaker 1>me what the top winner is in that area, and

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<v Speaker 1>it will.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell you kind of like wow.

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<v Speaker 1>It goes all the way back to twenty eleven, so

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<v Speaker 1>you can see who's been on top, and they go

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<v Speaker 1>through overall performance, network reliability, network accessibility, network speed, data performance,

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<v Speaker 1>call performance, and text performance. So again, couple good places

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<v Speaker 1>to look there. I will link those all up on

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<v Speaker 1>the website rich on tech dot tv, But I think

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<v Speaker 1>the best way to do it is to just have

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<v Speaker 1>a friend come over and say, hey, I need someone

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<v Speaker 1>on T mobile to come over to my house, or

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<v Speaker 1>I need someone on AT and T. And if you're

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<v Speaker 1>using an mv and O like one of these Crickets

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<v Speaker 1>or mint Mobile, figure out, go to Wikipedia.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just or go.

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<v Speaker 1>What network does cricket run on? For Cricket, it's AT

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<v Speaker 1>and T. For min it's T Mobile, And then that

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<v Speaker 1>will give you the network that you should be investigating

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<v Speaker 1>at your house. So, rick, there's a couple of suggestions

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Hopefully one of those will work. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>this was interesting. Logitech is launching a mouse with a

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<v Speaker 1>dedicated chat GPT button, so AI is taking over everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Their new M seven to fifty wireless mouse is the

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<v Speaker 1>first signature AI edition mouse with a dedicated chat GPT button,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can just use the chat GBT button to

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<v Speaker 1>fire up chat GBT. This is a fifty dollars mouse.

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<v Speaker 1>It is available for pre order. It will work with

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like it'll work with Mac and Windows computers,

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<v Speaker 1>but why not.

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<v Speaker 2>I just actually switched to a new mouse. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have problems with your arm, Like if you're

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<v Speaker 1>on the computer as much as I am and your

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<v Speaker 1>your elbow is hurting, or your wrist is hurting, or

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<v Speaker 1>your her shoulder is hurting, I just switched to the

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<v Speaker 1>Logitech Lift. Oh my gosh, game changing my hand in

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder and arm hurts less than ever before. It's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like a mouse that's on its side, so check

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<v Speaker 1>it out. Logitech Lift doesn't have the chat GBT button.

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<v Speaker 9>Help.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up next, we're going to talk to Irl Rosie.

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here talking technology with you

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<v Speaker 1>website for the show rich on Tech dot TV. Very

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<v Speaker 1>excited for my next guest. Perhaps you've seen her videos online.

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<v Speaker 2>I R L Rosie.

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<v Speaker 1>Rosie Okamura does videos where she calls scam artists and

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<v Speaker 1>gets them at their own game. She is a voice actress,

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<v Speaker 1>so she's really good at coming up with interesting and

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<v Speaker 1>fun voices.

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<v Speaker 2>Rosie, Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 14>Hi, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, I mentioned to my kid that you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be on my show and he's like, oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen her videos on social media and it's so exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was like, there's no way. I didn't think

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<v Speaker 1>that was real, and I said, yeah, I think it is.

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<v Speaker 1>So explain to me what you do.

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<v Speaker 19>First off, So I do what's called scam bating, and

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<v Speaker 19>it's where I call the scammers in order to waste

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<v Speaker 19>their time for as long as possible. And sort of

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<v Speaker 19>educate the public on what to look out for if

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<v Speaker 19>and when those videos go viral.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's play a little clip. I've got a little clip

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<v Speaker 1>from your YouTube channel. Let's hear a couple of seconds

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<v Speaker 1>of how you do this?

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<v Speaker 12>Oh babe, the babe put your finger on your teeth

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<v Speaker 12>and say, how I'm on? I'm charlel. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 12>holding it, don't make no sense.

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<v Speaker 3>Congratulations, you've been directed for a one hundred dollars Walmart

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<v Speaker 3>gift card.

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<v Speaker 10>In order to contact your Walmart gift we will need

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<v Speaker 10>to transfer you to a live representative. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 10>holding the trials, hoping you claim the reward today.

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<v Speaker 7>Can I get you?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 19>It's Diria d I.

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<v Speaker 14>PA MTZ.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So, oh, I gosh, that's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>So what inspired you to start prank calling scammers and

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<v Speaker 1>turning it into this sort of educational content.

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<v Speaker 19>I got into pranking scammers a few years ago after

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<v Speaker 19>my mom fell victim to one of those tech pop

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<v Speaker 19>up scams. So, for example, excuse me, For example, you

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<v Speaker 19>know you're browsing on the computer and you get a

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<v Speaker 19>pop up from Windows or Apple saying that you have

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<v Speaker 19>a virus and to call this number and it looks

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<v Speaker 19>legit because they use the same logos and they will

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<v Speaker 19>usually use some sort of eight hundred number, and so

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<v Speaker 19>my mom thought that it was real.

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<v Speaker 14>She called them.

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<v Speaker 19>They offered her a lifetime subscription of their services anti

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<v Speaker 19>virus software, and it was about four ninety nine, four

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<v Speaker 19>hundred and ninety nine dollars that is. And in order

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<v Speaker 19>to help remove the viruses from her computer, they gained

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<v Speaker 19>access remote access to her computer, which you know has

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<v Speaker 19>all of her auto saved passwords, bank logins, you know,

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<v Speaker 19>notes and stuff in her computer, with her social Security number,

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<v Speaker 19>the whole nine yards, And.

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<v Speaker 14>So she gave them access.

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<v Speaker 19>They stole her information and they got her out of

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<v Speaker 19>five hundred dollars. Luckily, I was able to call the

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<v Speaker 19>bank in time and get that reversed.

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<v Speaker 14>But I wasn't done.

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<v Speaker 19>I asked my mom for that phone number that she called,

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<v Speaker 19>and I called them back that same day, and I

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<v Speaker 19>went on a Facebook live stream so that my mom

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<v Speaker 19>could watch it. This is before there were a lot

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<v Speaker 19>of live stream options on different platforms.

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<v Speaker 14>So I went on.

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<v Speaker 19>There and prank called this guy with like a Kin

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<v Speaker 19>Kardashian type impression voice, and I had this guy on

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<v Speaker 19>the phone for an hour and forty five minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, which was wild.

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<v Speaker 14>It went by really fast somehow.

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<v Speaker 19>And after that, you know, my inbox blew up with

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<v Speaker 19>a bunch of friends and people that were watching, Hey,

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<v Speaker 19>can you call this number? Oh my mom falled it

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<v Speaker 19>for the same kind of scam? Can you call them?

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<v Speaker 19>And I just yeah, tossed a couple of videos up

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<v Speaker 19>on YouTube and some random person posted it on Reddit

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<v Speaker 19>and it blew up, and so did my YouTube channel,

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<v Speaker 19>and I was like, I.

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<v Speaker 14>Guess I'm doing this now.

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<v Speaker 19>So you know, during that, I learned a lot about scams,

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<v Speaker 19>and there's new scams every day, and I've just yeah,

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<v Speaker 19>kind of been riding that way ever since.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, your irl Rosie channel on YouTube has one point

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<v Speaker 1>four million plus subscribers, so clearly you're doing something fun

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<v Speaker 1>and interesting. Tell me about, like a memorable or outrageous

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<v Speaker 1>scam call that you know you were involved with.

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<v Speaker 19>Oh boy, one of the first videos I did that

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<v Speaker 19>went viral. I did a Britney Spears impression and it

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<v Speaker 19>was a scam that revolves around they call you and

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<v Speaker 19>tell you you've won a gift card, one hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 19>gift card to Walmart or Target, and in order to

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<v Speaker 19>receive it, you just have to pay you know, three

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<v Speaker 19>dollars in shipping. And then they asked for your debit

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<v Speaker 19>card information, so then you give that to a complete

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<v Speaker 19>stranger over the phone. So I called them saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 19>I had a lost or I had a missed call

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<v Speaker 19>a voicemail that I won some sort of gift card.

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<v Speaker 19>What's going on? And I used a Britney Spears voice.

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<v Speaker 19>They asked me for like my last name, and they

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<v Speaker 19>were like, we don't believe you, Like you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 19>to like sing if you're really Britney Spears, and so

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<v Speaker 19>I did.

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<v Speaker 14>And I told them that they were on a prank.

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<v Speaker 19>Show with celebrities, similar to like crank Ankers on MTV,

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<v Speaker 19>and they believed me. The guy was breaking out and

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<v Speaker 19>totally starstruck, and I wasted about an hour of his

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<v Speaker 19>time and got to teach people about gift card scams.

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<v Speaker 1>So your idea is that the more time you waste

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<v Speaker 1>of these people, the less they are able to scam

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<v Speaker 1>other people.

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<v Speaker 19>Exactly, the longer they're on the phone with me, the

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<v Speaker 19>less time they have to call someone who doesn't know better.

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<v Speaker 14>And then it's very entertaining in the meantime.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're a voice actor and uh you know by

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<v Speaker 1>trade here in Los Angeles, content creator as well improv

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<v Speaker 1>comedy skills, all that good stuff. So can you do

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<v Speaker 1>a voice like what like, let's let's I'll be the

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<v Speaker 1>person that's calling. I'll be like, yeah, I'll be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I need your you've won a gift card. I need

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<v Speaker 1>your personal bank information so we can deposit this to

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<v Speaker 1>your bank account.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 19>Usually I will use an elderly lady voice and her

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<v Speaker 19>name is last name Gersh. Her name Ierma, so the

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<v Speaker 19>scammer is forced to say iermash, which just makes me laugh.

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<v Speaker 8>So she talks a little like this. Her voice is

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<v Speaker 8>lower and shaky and a little bit of a certain

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<v Speaker 8>next there and make your say I'm a little bit

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<v Speaker 8>sweeter when she's talken. And then sometimes she asks Siri

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<v Speaker 8>for a little bit of whop and we will go booda.

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<v Speaker 14>I'm sorry, I didn't get that.

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<v Speaker 19>Sometimes they get an argument and she can't figure out

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<v Speaker 19>her Siri and then yeah, it's like a hole silly

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<v Speaker 19>back and forth between Urma and Siri, or sometimes you

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<v Speaker 19>know Alexa, which is a little bit more human sounding,

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<v Speaker 19>but still you know robotic.

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<v Speaker 2>Do these people hang up on you or do they

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<v Speaker 2>are they laughing?

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<v Speaker 11>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>What and where these people located a lot like do

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<v Speaker 1>you get the sense of like are they out of

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<v Speaker 1>the US or in the US.

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<v Speaker 2>These scammers, I've.

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<v Speaker 14>Had scammers from all over. The gift card scammer was US.

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<v Speaker 14>It was US based.

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<v Speaker 19>Uh you know, a lot of them come from India, Nigeria.

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<v Speaker 19>But you know there's scammers everywhere. Unfortunately. Uh So it

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<v Speaker 19>gets pretty pretty crazy. And they have hung up bopping before,

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<v Speaker 19>just because after a while they realize I'm wasting their time.

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<v Speaker 19>Sometimes they catch on to the joke and they're bored

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<v Speaker 19>at work.

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<v Speaker 14>Work work, they're board you know over.

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<v Speaker 19>There in the scam call center, and they sometimes will

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<v Speaker 19>have a little bit of fun with me. They will

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<v Speaker 19>sometimes push the limit and get.

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<v Speaker 14>A little you know, weird, which you know, I.

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<v Speaker 19>Have to hang up the phone sometimes and I could

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<v Speaker 19>just call someone else back instead. But yeah, they do

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<v Speaker 19>hang up. They have laughed, they do go along with

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<v Speaker 19>it once in a while. So it's all different kinds.

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<v Speaker 19>It's different every time I call.

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<v Speaker 1>Has anyone ever seen their video go viral and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of contacted you? Like these scam artists to say anything.

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<v Speaker 19>So sometimes they can tell that I am at least

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<v Speaker 19>a YouTuber just based on you know, we we sort

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<v Speaker 19>of we're all friends with each other, right, and we

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<v Speaker 19>all share the numbers together and we call them all

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<v Speaker 19>at the same time.

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<v Speaker 14>And the scammers are like, what's your YouTube channel?

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<v Speaker 19>Like, I know that you're just live streaming me and

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<v Speaker 19>you're wasting my time and I.

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<v Speaker 14>Hope you get a lot of views on your YouTube.

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<v Speaker 12>Being all mad about it.

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<v Speaker 14>Sometimes they get excited.

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<v Speaker 19>They're like, oh, you're the Alexa girl, Like you're the theory,

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<v Speaker 19>You're the Seeria girl.

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<v Speaker 14>I'm a fan of your videos.

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<v Speaker 19>Like then why do you still work there? But sometimes

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<v Speaker 19>they will recognize me or or know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 14>But it's always very entertaining.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what's what's the advice you would give to someone

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<v Speaker 1>who suspects they're being targeted by a scammer? And how

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<v Speaker 1>do you even tell? Sometimes like what's your what do

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<v Speaker 1>you what's your big takeaway from all this?

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<v Speaker 2>And what do you want to impart on people?

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<v Speaker 19>My big takeaway and the biggest thing I say is

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<v Speaker 19>you don't first of all, don't answer the phone.

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<v Speaker 14>Who answers their phone anymore.

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<v Speaker 19>If you have a bank or a service calling, you

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<v Speaker 19>just hang up and call the number back that's the

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<v Speaker 19>official number from the website, because sometimes these scammers can

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<v Speaker 19>spoof the actual phone number. So even if it does

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<v Speaker 19>show up as well as Fargo or US Bank, or

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<v Speaker 19>even if you type it in while they're on the phone,

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<v Speaker 19>it don't check, that could still be a scammer. So

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<v Speaker 19>I always tell people just hang up and call back

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<v Speaker 19>and just deal with the whole times. Even when it's

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<v Speaker 19>loved ones calling and there's an emergency. There's a big

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<v Speaker 19>scam going on of people faking car accidents or being

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<v Speaker 19>arrested and needing bail money or needing money for some

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<v Speaker 19>kind of emergency procedure, and a lot of AI is

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<v Speaker 19>copying people's voices.

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<v Speaker 14>So my big thing is hang up, even if.

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<v Speaker 19>It's like an emergency and it sounds like someone you know,

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<v Speaker 19>hang up and just call them back right away with

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<v Speaker 19>the number that you have on your end, just because

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<v Speaker 19>spoofing is so scary. AI is like out of control.

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<v Speaker 19>And then you know, when it comes to things on

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<v Speaker 19>your computer or weird text messages from a fake shipping company,

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<v Speaker 19>just don't click on anything.

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<v Speaker 14>Don't click on.

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<v Speaker 19>Anything, dot into the phone, you know, always hang up

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<v Speaker 19>and call back.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Rosie Okamura, voice actress and content creator, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for joining me. I'm gonna let you

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<v Speaker 1>take us to break So can you just let people

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<v Speaker 1>know where they can find you and you know, online,

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<v Speaker 1>and then say you're listening to rich on Tech, but

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<v Speaker 1>do it in one of your fun voices and take us.

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<v Speaker 2>To break here.

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<v Speaker 14>Sure, thanks for listening to rich on Tech.

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<v Speaker 19>Next we have a nice commercial break, and don't forget

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<v Speaker 19>to follow me on all platforms at IRL.

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<v Speaker 2>Rosie, great, welcome back to rich on Tech. What a

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<v Speaker 2>great interview. Oh my gosh, that was fun. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 2>to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to get to the feedback segment in just

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<v Speaker 1>a second, but first let me just get through a

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<v Speaker 1>couple things in a lightning round here. First off, Amazon,

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<v Speaker 1>apparently we're removing it's just walk out technology from their

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon Fresh stores in the US, So if you use

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<v Speaker 1>this at the grocery store a couple locations in the

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<v Speaker 1>LA area and other cities in America, apparently they're getting

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<v Speaker 1>rid of that, but they're not giving up on the technology.

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<v Speaker 1>They are going to license it to other third party businesses,

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<v Speaker 1>so I know a lot of stadiums have this and

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<v Speaker 1>things like that. The one thing I wanted to mention

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon denies that they're just walk out technology was powered

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<v Speaker 1>by contractors in India who would kind of watch what

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<v Speaker 1>you were shopping for and add everything up.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew that wasn't the case.

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<v Speaker 1>Google is getting rid of their Google one VPN for

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<v Speaker 1>their Google one subscribers, but the Pixel VPN will remain,

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<v Speaker 1>so I guess nobody's using the Google one VPN, but

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<v Speaker 1>if you have a Pixel you'll still have that. Charter

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<v Speaker 1>is trying to fight back against the Fubos of the

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<v Speaker 1>world and the YouTube TVs. They are now introducing their

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<v Speaker 1>own streaming TV package. It's got up to ninety channels

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<v Speaker 1>or ninety plus live popular channels. I don't think there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of sports involved here, and that's how they

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<v Speaker 1>keep this price down forty dollars a month, but you

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<v Speaker 1>have to have Spectrum Internet. So they've got two new

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<v Speaker 1>streaming TV packages, Spectrum TV Stream and Spectrum Stream. Latino

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<v Speaker 1>Stream is forty Latino twenty five dollars a month. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to have Internet through Spectrum to get those. Wirecutter

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<v Speaker 1>has some new reviews on document scanners, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>impressed to see that Brother swept the review. So all

1:44:17.280 --> 1:44:21.200
<v Speaker 1>these little brother ads scanners are the apparently the best

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<v Speaker 1>scanners out there. So if you're in the market for

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<v Speaker 1>a scanner, check out Brother. They've got three models that

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<v Speaker 1>were tops for the Wirecutter reviews. And if you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>for a new pair of earbuds, I haven't fully tested them,

1:44:34.520 --> 1:44:36.320
<v Speaker 1>but I did take my first run in them today.

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<v Speaker 1>The Nothing ear and ear A wireless earbuds.

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<v Speaker 2>Really really good.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm very, very impressed, and the price is pretty good,

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred to one hundred and fifty dollars Nothing. I

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<v Speaker 1>love this company. It's a funny name, but they do

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<v Speaker 1>some really great stuff. I love their phone that they

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<v Speaker 1>came out with, the Nothing phone this year. Nothing too.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they've got earbuds. And when I put earbuds in

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<v Speaker 1>my ears and they just sort of lock into my

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<v Speaker 1>ears and they don't feel like they're gonna fall out,

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<v Speaker 1>and they sound good. That is a winner in my book.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get to feedback here. Thomas and Redwing says, I

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<v Speaker 1>was listening to your radio show regarding driverless vehicles. They

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<v Speaker 1>will replace mass transit Without the cost of drivers and

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<v Speaker 1>lifts and ubers, the cost of a ride will be

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<v Speaker 1>considerably less than the cost of mass transit. Also, the

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<v Speaker 1>convenience of door to door service ad ride sharing with

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<v Speaker 1>your ride, the cost will be even lower. Mass transit

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<v Speaker 1>will be finished within the next thirty years. Interesting thought.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom says, I'm not sure, but I think wearing one

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<v Speaker 1>of those limitless AI recorders in California will get you

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<v Speaker 1>into trouble if you don't get consent from whoever else

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<v Speaker 1>is being recorded. That's that pendant that you carry around

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<v Speaker 1>your neck. It records everything and then becomes your own

1:45:51.040 --> 1:45:55.160
<v Speaker 1>personal chat GBT. Tom says, do they pay the monthly

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<v Speaker 1>fee for attorney's fees?

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<v Speaker 2>Haha?

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<v Speaker 1>Sort of kidding, Not really, there is I looked it up.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a consent mode on the AI recorder, and I

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<v Speaker 1>guess the first time it hears a new person's voice,

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<v Speaker 1>it will say I need to hear their consent before

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<v Speaker 1>I'll record them.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds pretty wild. John says, I heard you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about a clean install I don't need it now, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to be knowledgeable for the future. I have

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<v Speaker 1>three laptops with Windows. Can I clean install without being

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<v Speaker 1>connected to the Internet, and do I have to reinstall applications?

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks?

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<v Speaker 1>John, I listen every Saturday on KFI. Yes, a clean

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<v Speaker 1>install you will have to reinstall your applications. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>whole point of the clean install that it doesn't keep

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<v Speaker 1>anything on there. Can you do it without the Internet?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? I believe you can.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that Windows really tries to push the Internet

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<v Speaker 1>connection when you're connecting and setting up, but you should

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<v Speaker 1>be able to do it without the Internet. Michelle says, Hey, Rich,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm embarrassed to ask this question. I have several Gmail addresses.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I need to purchase and own the domain name

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<v Speaker 1>from the registrar company for the Gmail address?

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<v Speaker 2>Example?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you need to purchase an annually pay to new

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<v Speaker 1>richdemuro dot com from a registrar company for Richdemuro at

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<v Speaker 1>gmail dot com. Well, you're asking two different things that

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<v Speaker 1>don't really go together. So an email address at gmail

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<v Speaker 1>dot com you do not need to purchase any sort

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<v Speaker 1>of anything. You can just you know, use that. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you want your email address to be Rich at

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<v Speaker 1>richdemuro dot com, which I do have, you would need

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<v Speaker 1>to purchase the registration for that domain. Now to get email.

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<v Speaker 1>You could use a service like cloud flare. They can

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<v Speaker 1>forward that email from any email address to your other

1:47:33.080 --> 1:47:36.600
<v Speaker 1>email or you can purchase an email address for that

1:47:36.720 --> 1:47:40.280
<v Speaker 1>domain from your registrar company and use that as your

1:47:40.360 --> 1:47:45.320
<v Speaker 1>email address. Jay from Temecula says, you've probably mentioned this

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<v Speaker 1>a few times. What kind of Wi Fi extender would

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<v Speaker 1>you recommend for home use? Very frustrating have to run

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<v Speaker 1>through the house to get near the router to make

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<v Speaker 1>or answer a call. The only extender I recommend is

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<v Speaker 1>one from Tplink tp R twenty. It's like twenty bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>I would try that first see if it works. Otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>I would say get a Mesh Wi Fi network. Ero

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<v Speaker 1>and Orby are the two companies I recommend. I like

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<v Speaker 1>them a lot, They work pretty well. People seem to

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<v Speaker 1>like them. The Mesh network's going to be a lot

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<v Speaker 1>better than an extender. Extender just takes a bad Internet

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<v Speaker 1>signal and just puts it even further. All Right, that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to do it for this episode of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find links to everything I mentioned on my website.

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<v Speaker 1>Rich on Tech dot TV can find me on social media.

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<v Speaker 1>I am at rich on Tech next week. Oh I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing something fun. We are going to test the Internet

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<v Speaker 1>on a major airline and it's really really fast. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait to bring you that finally fast Internet that's

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<v Speaker 1>useful on an airline. Thanks so much for listening. There

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<v Speaker 1>are so many ways you can spend your time. I

1:48:51.120 --> 1:48:54.120
<v Speaker 1>do appreciate you spending it right here with me. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>to everyone who makes this show possible. Bobo, Kim Bill,

1:49:00.160 --> 1:49:05.040
<v Speaker 1>who else? My kids, my wife, I don't know. Jason, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Jason gets the signal out there. We've got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people. My name is Richdimiro. I will talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you real soon.