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Speaker 1: why Tesla's full self driving software isn't ready for the streets.

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Speaker 1: I've been having the Tesla self driving software drive me around.

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Speaker 1: Let me explain. Level zero, no automation. The drivers in

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on tech. Rich Demiro here hanging

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Speaker 1: out with you, talking technology. Joining me now, Laura May Martin,

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Speaker 11: Laura, thanks so much for joining me today.

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Speaker 12: Thanks so much for having me so your.

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Speaker 1: Book really speaks to me because I'm always trying to

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Speaker 1: Wow, I love it. I just learned something so very good.

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Speaker 1: This entire interview is worth it. So many people feel

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Speaker 13: So not only does downtime help to prevent burnout and

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Speaker 1: then send them to my email and when I get back, I'm.

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Speaker 14: Like, oh, yeah, that was a good frout perfect.

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Speaker 11: Smartphones.

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Speaker 1: We love them, we hate them, where everything in between.

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Speaker 1: They are such a big part of our lives, but

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Speaker 1: they are really addictive. They make us engage at times

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Speaker 1: maybe we don't want to, but we also need them.

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Speaker 1: So what's sort of a practical first step we can

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Speaker 1: take to develop a healthier relationship with this thing that

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Speaker 1: is always with us?

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Speaker 13: Right, And like you said, technology is so helpful. It

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Speaker 13: connects us in so many ways and it's really just

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Speaker 13: about finding the right way to make technology work for

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Speaker 13: you instead of against you. So that could be as

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Speaker 13: simple as what I do is create a schedule on

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Speaker 13: my phone for my social media apps and things I

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Speaker 13: don't want to open during the workday. I have times

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Speaker 13: when I'm locked out of them until the evening when

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Speaker 13: I've decided. I also have a bedtime for my phone

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Speaker 13: and a bedroom for my phone, and it's outside of

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Speaker 13: my bedroom, so the alarm goes off, I put my

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Speaker 13: phone to bed on the charger, and then I have

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Speaker 13: some time away from screens before going to bed, and

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Speaker 13: when I wake up in the morning, I do at

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Speaker 13: least one thing before touching my phone. And so I

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Speaker 13: think just having those small habits just help us make

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Speaker 13: sure that we're not getting distracted by technology, but that

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Speaker 13: it's working for us in the right ways.

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Speaker 1: I love the idea of putting the phone to bed,

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Speaker 1: like rocking it to sleep, maybe reading it or reading

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Speaker 1: in a story.

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Speaker 11: Singing in a little song.

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Speaker 9: I love.

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Speaker 1: So, what are some of the common signs that we

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Speaker 1: have become too attached to our phone? Is it that

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Speaker 1: kind of last scroll before closing your eyes to sleep?

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Speaker 11: Is that like the dead giveaway.

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Speaker 13: I like to say, think of your phone or any

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Speaker 13: work in your home or device, kind of like in laws.

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Speaker 13: You want to create the same type of boundaries you

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Speaker 13: would have if they lived with you, So you would

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Speaker 13: not invite them into your room first thing in the morning,

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Speaker 13: you would not sit with them until the minute you

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Speaker 13: go to bed, and so same thing that you would

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Speaker 13: do with your phone. You want to say, you know,

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Speaker 13: I'm having that healthy tie away from it, or I

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Speaker 13: find myself checking my phone when I don't plan on.

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Speaker 12: Doing anything about it.

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Speaker 13: I think that's one of the biggest things, when it's

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Speaker 13: you know, I'm not actively working, I'm not responding to

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Speaker 13: emails right now, I'm just kind of checking to and.

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Speaker 12: So just giving yourself maybe one evening a week.

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Speaker 13: I do a challenge at Google called no Tech Tuesday Night,

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Speaker 13: and it's just for six weeks, one evening just saying

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Speaker 13: from dinner to the following morning, try and plugging from

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Speaker 13: your device or putting it in another room and checking it,

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Speaker 13: you know, occasionally if you have urgent things, but in general,

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Speaker 13: finding ways to do hobbies or you know, play a

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Speaker 13: board game or be really present, or just taking one

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Speaker 13: night to see how that feels and how it affects

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Speaker 13: your sleep and the following morning being more.

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Speaker 12: Productive the next day is actually one of the top

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Speaker 12: feedback from.

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Speaker 11: That great advice.

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Speaker 1: Okay, saying no to people and requests and just everything

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Speaker 1: is really really tough.

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Speaker 11: How can we say no in a nice way?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: I think some people say no is a complete sentence,

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Speaker 13: but for me that always felt uncomfortable. And you want

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Speaker 13: to maintain that social capital and friendliness and you know, approachability,

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Speaker 13: and so finding ways that say no but in a

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Speaker 13: way that feels approachable, and so saying no because you know,

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Speaker 13: giving people true insight into what you're prioritizing, what you're

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Speaker 13: working on and why you can't attend, or saying no

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Speaker 13: but you know, I can't speak at your event, but

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Speaker 13: here's a ton of resources from past events I've done

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Speaker 13: or other speakers you might want to consider or not

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Speaker 13: right now, that's not something I can prioritize currently, but

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Speaker 13: please reach back out in a few months and my

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Speaker 13: priorities may have changed. And so all of those are

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Speaker 13: still ways of saying no, but they help you and

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Speaker 13: the person who's requesting feel a little better about it.

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Speaker 1: We're hearing a lot more about work life balance. This

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Speaker 1: probably goes to the well being section of your book.

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Speaker 1: But what's a boundary that someone can set with their

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Speaker 1: employer or maybe the people they work with that you recommend.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, So whenever you're setting a boundary, I always recommend

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Speaker 13: talking about what you do do instead of what you

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Speaker 13: don't do. So let's say that you're trying to leave

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Speaker 13: every day at five pm to spend time with your

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Speaker 13: children and you know, be present at dinner and maybe

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Speaker 13: you'll check back on later. But instead of saying I

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Speaker 13: don't take meetings after five, you can say I take

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Speaker 13: meetings between eight and five, and then I'm available after

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Speaker 13: eight pm for anything urgent. So now you're showing them

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Speaker 13: what you will do and giving them that full picture

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Speaker 13: of when you're available, versus trying to tell them everything

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Speaker 13: you won't do. So that's a good way of saying,

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Speaker 13: you know, this is a boundary that I have and

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Speaker 13: here's how to reach me.

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Speaker 11: Now. For some it may seem like a long time.

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Speaker 1: Ago, but a lot of people are still adjusting to

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Speaker 1: that work work from home, that hybrid kind of atmosphere.

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Speaker 1: So what can home based workers do to optimize their productivity?

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Speaker 14: So, first you.

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Speaker 13: Want to ask yourself, are you what I call a homebaser,

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Speaker 13: which means you focus better at home, or an outfielder,

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Speaker 13: which means you focus better out And so based on

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Speaker 13: your answer to that, you can start to structure your schedule.

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Speaker 13: It's really just about knowing yourself and setting up your environments.

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Speaker 13: The other cool thing you can do is by picking

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Speaker 13: what I call hot spots. So instead of having everything

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Speaker 13: be done at your desk, if you were working from home,

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Speaker 13: you can say, I always code at my desk, I always.

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Speaker 12: Answer emails outside on my porch. I always make phone

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Speaker 12: calls on a walk.

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Speaker 13: And so what that does is it helps your brain

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Speaker 13: associate those spots with those types of activities, and then

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Speaker 13: it's easier for you to slip into that mood. When

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Speaker 13: you go on the porch, you're already thinking email, and

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Speaker 13: so that helps with working from home but still having

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Speaker 13: different places for different things.

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Speaker 1: Laura may Martin, executive productivity advisor at Google.

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Speaker 11: Thanks so much for joining me today.

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Speaker 12: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 10: This is great, all right.

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Speaker 1: The book is called Uptime, A Practical Guide to Personal Productivity.

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Speaker 11: And well Being.

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Speaker 1: You can find it anywhere you buy books. I'll put

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Speaker 1: it on the website as well rich on Tech dot

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Speaker 1: TV more rich on Tech coming your.

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Speaker 11: Way right after this.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here talking

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Speaker 1: to Angie in Los Angeles. Angie, you're on with Rich.

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Speaker 3: Hi. I just recently found out that my life top

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Speaker 3: has what seems to be maybe of root kit or

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Speaker 3: like a kernel route type of malware loaded on it.

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Speaker 3: And I've been trying to I've done like a regular

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Speaker 3: reset that didn't work. I've been trying to, you know,

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Speaker 3: find where it is, and it does come. Something comes

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Speaker 3: up on my control panel and I'm able to delete

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Speaker 3: drivers related to it. But then as soon as I

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Speaker 3: turn it back on, you know, turn it off, turn on,

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Speaker 3: it reinstalled. There definitely seems to be something embedded and uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, even the the of the Yeah, So I

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Speaker 3: was wondering if you had any good resources for someone

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking I need to clean reinstall of the Windows

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Speaker 3: program and then just to you know, somebody to find

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Speaker 3: where this is, this root kit is and and get

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Speaker 3: rid of it. But my local uh best I doesn't

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Speaker 3: have the same resources they used to do. Everybody's pearing

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Speaker 3: down their resources, and I need I'm in need of

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Speaker 3: a good resource to do a reinstall and then just

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Speaker 3: to wipe it clean. I mean, just what do they

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Speaker 3: call that new cupa.

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Speaker 2: A clean install? What? What version of Windows are you using?

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Speaker 3: Ten?

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Speaker 1: Okay, you can do a clean install yourself. Have you

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Speaker 1: tried it?

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Speaker 3: No? I have not. That's probably why I'm a little

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Speaker 3: nervous at doing it myself, but also getting rid of

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Speaker 3: the malware that seems to be embedded that was That's

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Speaker 3: probably the biggest concern of mine is you know, even

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Speaker 3: if I do the reinstall, if I don't get rid

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Speaker 3: of the malware, then I'm still back at square one again.

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Speaker 1: So, well, did you did you try to remove this

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Speaker 1: with a program like malware bytes or Windows Defender?

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm in the process of doing that. I

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Speaker 3: was trying to think of a way without connecting to

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Speaker 3: my network of you know, because this is obviously an

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Speaker 3: affected laptop. So I don't want to connect to my

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Speaker 3: network and I need and load it there without any type.

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Speaker 2: Of uh yeah, the internet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's kind of like you catch twenty two

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Speaker 3: and that's.

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Speaker 2: I hear you, I hear you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, I mean, if you want to get a

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Speaker 1: professional to do this, it's it's a quite simple job.

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Speaker 1: So my kid actually got a virus on his laptop

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Speaker 1: a couple of months ago, and you're right. I did

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Speaker 1: disconnect it from the network and I I did a

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Speaker 1: clean install of Windows and it did remove it and

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Speaker 1: it's fine. But it wasn't the toughest process. And this

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Speaker 1: is why a backup is so important because when these

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Speaker 1: things happen, if you have a backup, you just clean install,

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Speaker 1: wipe the system, and you're you're up and running again.

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Speaker 1: But if you want a professional to do it, there's

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Speaker 1: a place called you Break I Fix.

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Speaker 2: Have you heard of that?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean there's quite a few of

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Speaker 3: them there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're they're a little chain, so they will do it. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the best buys. I'm surprised they don't have the ability

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Speaker 1: to do that. But you can also just look on

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Speaker 1: Yelp for a you know local like you know computer

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Speaker 1: repair clinic or repair shop and they will be able

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Speaker 1: to do it. Like if you want to go more local,

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Speaker 1: right like a locally owned place, you can just search

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Speaker 1: some computer repair and Yelp and find. What I typically

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Speaker 1: recommend is just call the first two locations that are

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Speaker 1: near you that are highly rated and just see which

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Speaker 1: one you get a better feel for. You know, because

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Speaker 1: some people are really nice and some people are very short,

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Speaker 1: and so you probably don't want to go with the

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Speaker 1: person that's short because if they're short with you when

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Speaker 1: you haven't paid them yet, imagine once you've paid them.

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Speaker 1: So that's why I always call the local business to

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Speaker 1: kind of see what they're what their deal is.

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Speaker 3: And this is not my line of work, so I'm

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Speaker 3: kind of wondering. So when you get your reinstall of Windows,

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Speaker 3: how did you get rid of the virus without using

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Speaker 3: your network to load something into get rid of the virus?

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Speaker 1: Well, I just went into the Windows cleaning. Windows has

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Speaker 1: a way to clean install from Windows. So if you

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Speaker 1: go into your Windows settings, there is a way to

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Speaker 1: reset if you search, like I think they used to

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Speaker 1: call it refresh, but now they call it reset. So

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Speaker 1: if you do that or just type in you know,

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Speaker 1: into their search functionality reset Windows. There's like a bunch

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Speaker 1: of different options, but it has them all kind of

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Speaker 1: built into the system, or it should be. And as

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Speaker 1: long as now, if this thing has gotten into like

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Speaker 1: the bios of your computer, that might be different. But

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Speaker 1: I would say typically ninety percent of issues with viruses

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Speaker 1: or you know, at the software level, and so I

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Speaker 1: think you're probably going to get rid of it upon

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Speaker 1: the first clean install, but I would try that first,

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Speaker 1: Just open it up and do that.

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Speaker 3: I did the reset a couple of times and it

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Speaker 3: just was right back to where I started, and I

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Speaker 3: need it the whole thing twice, and so it seems

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Speaker 3: to be really embedded, you know, deep in like maybe

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Speaker 3: the firmware or something. I'm not really sure, but it's

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Speaker 3: not white being clean with just a reset alone.

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Speaker 1: If it is a root kit kind of thing, then yeah,

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Speaker 1: you definitely you should probably get someone that helps. But

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Speaker 1: I would go to you Break I Fixed. They definitely

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Speaker 1: handle this kind of stuff. Again, if you want the

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Speaker 1: local person, you know, go with the local. But most

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Speaker 1: people I hear back from with the U Break experience,

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Speaker 1: they kind of like it. And it's a national chain,

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Speaker 1: so there's always that backing of like a big company.

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Speaker 1: If you want, you know, if you need help or something.

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Speaker 1: But good luck, Angie, and keep me posted. Email me

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Speaker 1: on the website let me know an update so that

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Speaker 1: I can share. Okay, thank you, all right, thanks a lot,

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Speaker 1: thanks for the call. Eighty to eight rich one on

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight seven four to two four.

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Speaker 2: One zero one.

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Speaker 1: Global smartphone market is actually growing again. So we've been

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Speaker 1: talking about how smartphone sales were down for a while.

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Speaker 1: Now they're back up seven point eight percent growth. In

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Speaker 1: the first quarter of twenty twenty four, Samsung also overtook

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Speaker 1: Apple once again as the top smartphone maker. Now, before

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Speaker 1: you get too excited, let me explain what happened. So

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Speaker 1: last year, at the end of the year, Apple overtook Samsung.

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Speaker 1: Now the first quarter this year, Samsung overtook Apple. But

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Speaker 1: here's the thing. Apple releases their new phones in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter of the year and Samsung releases their new

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Speaker 1: phones in the first quarter of the year. So is

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Speaker 1: this really just people buying new phones from these makers

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Speaker 1: and some people like Apple, some people like Samsung.

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Speaker 2: Probably.

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Speaker 1: This is all according to IDC, And in the first

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Speaker 1: quarter of twenty twenty four, Samsung shipped sixty million smartphones.

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Speaker 1: Sixty million smartphones, that's a twenty percent market share. We're

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Speaker 1: talking worldwide here. Apple experienced a nine point six percent

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Speaker 1: year over year decline shipping fifty million smartphones and that

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Speaker 1: is a seventeen percent market share. The other brands that

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Speaker 1: are in here is Shaomi. They are big in China,

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Speaker 1: they're coming back very strong. And then there's this company

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Speaker 1: called Transient. This is a company in South Africa and

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Speaker 1: they are very popular in that market. The main takeaway

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Speaker 1: from this is that consumers want more expensive devices these days.

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Speaker 1: They want that premium device, but they know that they're

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Speaker 1: going to hold on to it for a longer amount

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Speaker 1: of time. So we've talked about the fact that people

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Speaker 1: are keeping their phones for three plus years. That seems

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Speaker 1: to be the big trend, and it makes sense. If

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Speaker 1: you're spending a lot of money on a phone and

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Speaker 1: you're dividing up those payments by three years, which a

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Speaker 1: lot of people are doing, then why would you not

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Speaker 1: want to keep that phone.

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Speaker 2: For as long as humanly possible?

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Speaker 1: And air Chat this is an app that is taking

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Speaker 1: not so much the world by storm, but so far

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Speaker 1: the tech folks Silicon Valley folks really like this app

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Speaker 1: called air Chat. It's kind of like Twitter, but with

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Speaker 1: audio posts. So I did download it. I did test

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Speaker 1: it at you record your voice, it posts your voice as

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Speaker 1: a little sort of I guess a tweet for not

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Speaker 1: a better word. But it also transcribes what you say,

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Speaker 1: so people can scroll through read what you said, but

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Speaker 1: also listen to your voice. I liken it to leaving

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Speaker 1: a voicemail for the world, So it uses AI to

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Speaker 1: generate those transcriptions and it's kind of fun. It's different.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's going to catch on, but

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Speaker 1: it's it's certainly a new take on social media. Like

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Speaker 1: I said, if you want to check me out rich

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Speaker 1: on Tech on air Chat.

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Speaker 2: That is the new app.

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Speaker 1: By the way, the guy who started this app, I

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00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: lunched with him. I looked at my email like almost

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Speaker 1: like fifteen years ago.

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Speaker 2: I think he was doing stuff back then.

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Speaker 1: Hey, it only takes one hit, right, and now apparently

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Speaker 1: he's got a hit. Ay to eight Rich one one

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here talking technology with you

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Speaker 1: at Triple A. Rich one oh one eight seven four

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Speaker 1: show rich on tech dot TV. Once you're there, you

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Speaker 1: can see all of the stories that I do for television.

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Speaker 1: you can also do that through the website. Just subscribe

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Speaker 1: on your favorite audio app. Thanks for being here, Thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening. Do appreciate it. We got a lot on

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Speaker 1: the show. This hour, I'm going to talk about a

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Speaker 1: new wearable pendant that will record pretty much all of

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Speaker 1: your life in audio, and then you can search it

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Speaker 1: sort of chat gp GPT style. Netflix as growing members

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Speaker 1: once again, Well they're not growing them. It's not like

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Speaker 1: they have a lab with or growing people. But you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, They're growing memberships, like more people

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Speaker 1: are signed up. Sounds like a Netflix show to grow

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Speaker 1: members But I will tell you, I will tell you

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Speaker 1: what they are doing to sort of make more people

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Speaker 1: pay and then coming up. Later this hour, we have

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Speaker 1: a guest, Dan O'Dowd of the Dawn Project. He will

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Speaker 1: explain why Tesla's full self driving software is not ready

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Speaker 1: for the streets. Eighty eight Rich one one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight seven four to two four one zero one. Let's

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Speaker 1: go to Adam in Orlando, Florida. Adam, you're on with Rich.

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Speaker 9: Hi.

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Speaker 5: Rich.

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Speaker 7: I'm calling because I was checking my Gmail and I

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Speaker 7: decided to play around with the settings, and I looked

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Speaker 7: in the privacy section and I noticed something I'd never

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Speaker 7: noticed before having my Gmail email address for a long time,

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Speaker 7: which is that it gives you the option to search

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Speaker 7: your I think email address in the dark web to

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Speaker 7: find anywhere results, and then it tells you if there

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Speaker 7: are results, it can charge you to find out what

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Speaker 7: those results are and maybe clean it up. I think so.

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Speaker 7: So I'm calling to find out if if you know

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Speaker 7: about that, or if there is a maybe another system

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Speaker 7: or another service that provides something like that, because I

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Speaker 7: do have a DOTU email address. So I'm just wondering

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Speaker 7: if you know what's a good efficient way to help

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Speaker 7: clear your clear anything you may have hackers may have

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Speaker 7: on you on.

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Speaker 5: The dark web.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, great, question, And yes, I use the Google

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Speaker 1: Dark Web monitoring for sure. I get alerts when my

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Speaker 1: stuff shows up, which it often does. But here's the

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Speaker 1: number one thing. You cannot get this information off the

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Speaker 1: dark web. No matter who promises that to you, they

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Speaker 1: can't do that. The dark web is not a database

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Speaker 1: that someone maintains that you can say, hey, can you

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Speaker 1: pull my information off of here, and some hacker somewhere says, oh, sure,

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Speaker 1: let me kindly do that. No, that's not the way

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Speaker 1: it works. So number one, once your information is out there,

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Speaker 1: it is out there forever. There is no getting it back.

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Speaker 1: So that's very important to know because people will spend

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Speaker 1: a lot of money trying to clear up these results.

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Speaker 2: Now what Google does. There's two things.

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Speaker 1: Number one, Adam, do you pay for Google storage or no?

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Speaker 10: No?

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Speaker 7: No, I just have the regular basic account.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I pay for the Google storage, So I

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Speaker 1: actually can so Google any Google member. Like, if you

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Speaker 1: have a Google account, you can search for your information

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Speaker 1: one time, which is what you stumbled upon, right, So

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Speaker 1: that if you want to find that, you can go

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Speaker 1: to one dot Google dot com and there's a section

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Speaker 1: that says dark Web report and you click try now

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Speaker 1: and then run scan and it will show you the

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Speaker 1: information that's out there now. For me, I have thirty

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Speaker 1: seven data breachesked to my info on the dark web

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Speaker 1: that includes my name, data, birth phone number, email, passwords,

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Speaker 1: user names, gender, Let's see is there anymore? Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: pretty much it. So that information is out there, and

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Speaker 1: this will give you if you click into these pretty

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Speaker 1: specific information like I can see my twenty twenty one

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Speaker 1: AT and T subscriber data breach. It's got my name data,

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Speaker 1: birth phone number, email, and address now floating around on

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Speaker 1: the web for anyone to see.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, AT and T. So what's the point of

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Speaker 2: all of this.

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Speaker 1: So the point of all of this is really to

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Speaker 1: be understanding of the fact that this is out there. Google,

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Speaker 1: they will do one thing for you. They will pull

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Speaker 1: your information off of their search results if you ask

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Speaker 1: for that. So there's a difference between your information being

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Speaker 1: out there on the dark web, which is in some

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Speaker 1: sort of database that people are changing hands all the

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Speaker 1: time they're selling this information, and information being in search results.

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Speaker 1: So Google, if you use their their monitoring program, which

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Speaker 1: you can get for free if you're anyone, can get

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Speaker 1: that for free. It's called Results About You that will

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Speaker 1: allow you to pull information off of Google search results.

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Speaker 1: So if there's a Google search result that has your name,

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Speaker 1: your address, or phone number on one of these websites

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Speaker 1: like spoke Yo or checkmate or whatever they're called, and

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Speaker 1: you say, hey, I don't like that information being there.

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Speaker 1: Google will assess that and say, okay, should we take

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Speaker 1: that down, and they will make a decision. It's not

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Speaker 1: always guaranteed, but the bigger thing about all of these

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Speaker 1: dark web situations is understanding what information is out there,

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Speaker 1: and more importantly, not reusing your information and also not

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Speaker 1: giving out your information in the first place. So, for instance,

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Speaker 1: phone number, I mean, I'm looking at my phone number

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Speaker 1: right here. It's telling me, I mean this at and

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Speaker 1: T breach was really bad. I'm looking at my data birth,

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Speaker 1: my real phone number, and my real email address that

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Speaker 1: is just now out there for anyone, which is really scary.

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Speaker 1: So again, the more you can do to keep your

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Speaker 1: information private going forward, I think is going to be

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Speaker 1: a better way of going about this. With that said,

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Speaker 1: there are a couple of tools that I will link

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Speaker 1: up on the website rich on tech dot tv that

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Speaker 1: can reveal where some of this information is. The First

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Speaker 1: one keeper Security dot com. They do a free data

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00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: breach you can scan and it will give you some

879
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 1: information about your data breach information out there. Keep in

880
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: mind a lot of these things want to sell you

881
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: on something else, so they're showing you this information in

882
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: hopes of converting you to a paid customer. The other

883
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: one that I think is actually pretty good with the

884
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 1: information they give is scan dot aura dot com. Scan

885
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 1: dot au r a dot com. And this one actually

886
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 1: shows my passwords that are flying around the Internet.

887
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 2: Now they have them.

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00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: Redacted a little bit, but I can tell a couple

889
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 1: of those passwords I recognize, and that's really scary.

890
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 2: So I can see.

891
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: That I do not want to reuse that password ever

892
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,959
Speaker 1: again because it is out there on the open web.

893
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: And then it gives all of my account names that

894
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: are out there on the web. Most of them are

895
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: rich DeMuro, which I get. I mean, that's my name,

896
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: that's what I use, so that's gonna be pretty standard.

897
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: The other one that this one is pretty a pretty

898
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 1: big website. It's called haveiben pned dot com and they

899
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: spell pned pwned dot com. You can put your email

900
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: address in there and they will notify you for free

901
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: anytime your email address shows up on one of these

902
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 1: dark web breaches. Now, we're actually gonna have an interview

903
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: with the guy who runs this website, Troy Hunt. We

904
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 1: will have an interview with him next week and he

905
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: explains I actually ask him about these dark web, these

906
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: dark web monitoring services because I was curious about them.

907
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: So he will explain what his take is on paying

908
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: for these services. And let me just tell you spoiler alert,

909
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: probably not worth paying for these services.

910
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 2: So where does that leave us?

911
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: Go to the Google Results about you service. Definitely take

912
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: advantage of that. You tell Google your information. I know

913
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: it sounds counterintuitive, but you'd say, here's my phone number,

914
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: here's my email address, here's my address. If you find

915
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: this on the web in results, let me know, send

916
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: me an email. And then I have the ability to

917
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: say Google, can you take that off the internet, And

918
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: in nine times out of ten in my experience, they

919
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: will take that search result down. They don't go to

920
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: the website and delete your information. But ninety nine percent

921
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: of people are just searching on the web for your address,

922
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: for your phone number. I mean, most people aren't searching

923
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 1: for you. Let's be honest. Unless you owe someone something

924
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: or whatever, but that they will take down that search result.

925
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: With the dark web, there are ways again, like I said,

926
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,479
Speaker 1: to check out your information that's out there, but there's

927
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: not much you can do about that information being out there.

928
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: I will link all of the things I talked about

929
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: on the website rich on tech dot TV. My main takeaway,

930
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: my number one takeaway. If you get nothing else out

931
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 1: of this conversation, limit the amount of information you give

932
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: out to people. If a random website you're signing up

933
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: for asks for your data, why do you need to

934
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: give them your actual date of birth? Unless it is

935
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: something like a credit card or your bank or whatever,

936
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: why do they need to know that? They probably don't

937
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 1: email addresses. Use a cloaked email address when possible when

938
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 1: you're signing up for random websites. You can do that

939
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: through iCloud. There's a bunch of services that will let

940
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: you do it. Try not to give away your real

941
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 1: email address. Duck duck go has a nice free email

942
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: address that is you can use if you want to

943
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 1: throw away email address, So search duc duc go cloaked

944
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: email I think it's called and they have that. And

945
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: then when it comes to your information, like your password.

946
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: Do not use the same password over and over. The

947
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: problem is when you use that password, even if you

948
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: think you're so good at creating a strong password, if

949
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: that password is out on the web. What these hackers

950
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: do is they take that password, they see the email

951
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: address associated with it, and they say, okay, let's hit

952
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: up the top fifty major websites and see if this

953
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: little combination of email address and password unlocks this website.

954
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: So they go to Bank of America, they go to Chase,

955
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: they go to American Express, they go to all those

956
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: banks out there, and they try your email address and password,

957
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: and sometimes that might unlock the website and get them in.

958
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: That's called credential stuffing. That's what happened with Roku. So

959
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: do not reuse the same passwords across websites. Those are

960
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: some of the best ways to protect yourself. That is

961
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: my recommendation. Okay, let me get off the soapbox and

962
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: tell you real quick about Netflix before we go to

963
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: break eighty eight rich one oh one eight eight eight

964
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: seven four to two four one zero one. Not much

965
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 1: to report about Netflix except their memberships grew sixteen percent.

966
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: They now have almost two hundred and seventy million people

967
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: paying every month to watch Netflix. But here's the concerning issue.

968
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: They have five hundred million people interacting with the service.

969
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: What does that mean. There's a lot of freeloaders that

970
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: are still using other people's Netflix accounts.

971
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: So two things.

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00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: Number one, Netflix says, starting next year, we're not going

973
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,919
Speaker 1: to provide any updates on our membership numbers quarterly. Why

974
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: because they understand the market is slowing. They're not going

975
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: to have these big numbers, these big membership numbers going

976
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: forward the growth. But what they are going to do

977
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 1: potentially price hikes. They're going to crack down on password sharing,

978
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: They're going to put more of an emphasis on that

979
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: ad supported membership, tire and more live programming. You are

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00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: listening to rich on Tech. We'll have more of your

981
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 1: questions right after this. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

982
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you talking technology at

983
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: triple eight rich one oh one eight eight eight seven

984
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: four to two four one zero one. The website for

985
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: the show rich on Tech dot tv just gave out

986
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: a lot of great resources for searching for information on

987
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 1: the dark web. So if you want to get links

988
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: to those, you can get those in real time just

989
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: go to Rich on tech dot TV. Hit the light

990
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: bulb right at the top of the website, and that

991
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: will bring you to the radio show wiki. That is

992
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: a list of all of the shows and all of

993
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 1: the show notes. So just tap into the show notes

994
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 1: for number sixty eight and that should give you all

995
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 1: of this stuff that I just mentioned. Let me make

996
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: sure it's there. Yep, there it is Google one Google

997
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 1: Results about you, keeper, Aura.

998
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 2: And have I been pooned?

999
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: Let's go to Gus in Morino Valley, California. Gus, you're

1000
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: on with Rich.

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00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1002
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 15: Rich, this morning my laptop, I turned it on and

1003
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 15: it was kind of slow, so I restarted it and

1004
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 15: when I when he came back, Google Boom was gone,

1005
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 15: what that will file?

1006
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:43,280
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1007
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 2: What?

1008
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 10: What are you on?

1009
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 2: A Mac or a PC?

1010
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 5: It's a it's a it's a deal.

1011
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,479
Speaker 2: Okay, So that's Windows.

1012
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: So maybe okay, So I actually got an email about this.

1013
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: It's it's there must it's interesting there. I know that

1014
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: Windows really tries to push the Edge browser.

1015
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've heard of that one. Is

1016
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 2: that on your desktop?

1017
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 5: The Edge? No?

1018
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 16: No?

1019
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 5: Okay, well you know what it is? It is? Yeah,

1020
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 5: it is. Yeah.

1021
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 1: So that's Microsoft's version of Chrome, and they really pushed

1022
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: that hard, especially when you try to download Chrome or

1023
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: do anything with Chrome for the first couple of times.

1024
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 1: So he's like, hey, we're right here, We've got our

1025
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 1: own version. Why don't you try this out. It's kind

1026
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: of the same thing.

1027
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have gotten done with Google Chrome, asking me

1028
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 5: if I wanted to turn it into my default.

1029
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely.

1030
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: Microsoft has been I guess after that whole uh you know,

1031
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: that whole anti trust thing back in the nineties. Everyone's

1032
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 1: forgotten about that, but I it's we're past that anyway.

1033
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: But here's the thing.

1034
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: So, can you tap the Windows key on your computer

1035
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 1: and can you search Chrome?

1036
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 2: And does that not come up? Because it made me.

1037
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 5: I searched it done and it is like he deleted

1038
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 5: all the files somehow, really.

1039
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 15: Had a lot of information and Google Chrome and portals

1040
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 15: that I use and everything you've gone.

1041
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 5: You know, Google Chrome remembers something password, so way to go.

1042
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 5: You know, my friend, here is what he did is

1043
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 5: he reads.

1044
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 6: Restore to the system restore.

1045
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sure, sure, he brought did a restore point.

1046
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, so he's doing it. But it's like it's been

1047
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 5: almost an hour and it's still.

1048
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 15: You know, it says please wait, well your windows, well,

1049
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 15: then setting are being restored.

1050
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 1: Well before I would have done that, I probably would

1051
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: have recommended just re downloading Chrome because if you were

1052
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: signed in on Chrome, all of your stuff will come

1053
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: back magically. So okay, yeah, so I would have done

1054
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: that before you Yeah, I would have done that before

1055
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: the restore point, because the restore point is kind of like,

1056
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: if it works, it'll be great, you know, hopefully it will,

1057
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: but it may not bring it back and it may

1058
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 1: not do everything properly, so.

1059
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 5: Uh would be able to stop it.

1060
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: I would not stop it at this point, no, because

1061
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: if you stop it in halfway, you could have an

1062
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: issue with corrupt files. So I would not do that.

1063
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 1: But gus, here's my advice. So I would wait, wait

1064
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: till the restore h wait till the restore completes, and

1065
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: see if Chrome is back on there and your computer

1066
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: is back to the way it was. A restore point

1067
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 1: is kind of like a time machine for your computer,

1068
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: so you're going back to a moment in time before

1069
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: a specific problem happened with your computer, and hopefully, by

1070
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: going back to that point in time, everything's back the

1071
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:37,240
Speaker 1: way it was, but in the future, Chrome will keep

1072
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: Chrome is one hundred percent web based, so all the

1073
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: settings and things that are happening on Chrome are are

1074
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: copied to the cloud as long as you are signed

1075
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: into your Google account. So when you first open up Chrome,

1076
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: it will say do you want to sync this, and

1077
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: you can tell by the upper right hand corner. If

1078
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: you open up Chrome, you should have a little picture

1079
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: of yourself in the upper right hand corner. You can

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00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: tap that, maybe your initials, but you can tap that

1081
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: and it will tell you Sync is on. So make

1082
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: sure that your sink is on on Chrome if you

1083
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: don't want to lose your bookmarks, your settings, your extensions,

1084
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: anything that you've installed on Chrome will carry over from

1085
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 1: computer to computer as long as you have sync on.

1086
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 1: If you want a little bit more privacy and you

1087
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: don't want anything to sync, then you can turn that

1088
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 1: sync off. You can still use Chrome without it being

1089
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: sync to the Google servers. So that would be my

1090
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: advice Gus in the future is just if somehow Chrome

1091
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: goes away, just go ahead and redownload it, sign in

1092
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: and you should be fine.

1093
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: Coming up on the show, We've got Dan O'Dowd now

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Speaker 1: Brace Yourself. Dan has some pretty pretty thorough thoughts about

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Speaker 1: Tesla's self driving and i'll just tell you he does

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Speaker 1: not like it. So it's an interesting interview. Dan O'Dowd

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Speaker 1: is with the Dawn Project and he basically thinks that

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Speaker 1: Tesla's full self driving software is not ready for the street.

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Speaker 1: So he's coming up soon. Before we go to that,

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Speaker 1: let me just tell you about this real quick. This

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Speaker 1: is an interesting idea. It's a pendant that you wear

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Speaker 1: that records pretty much everything in your life. Ninety nine

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Speaker 1: records your meetings and anything else you want in life.

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Speaker 1: You wear it around your neck if you want, or

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Speaker 1: you can clip it to your shirt. It will record

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Speaker 1: the audio and then put it all into sort of

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Speaker 1: your personal chat GPT. Ninety nine dollars for the device

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Speaker 1: and nineteen dollars a month if you want all the features.

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Speaker 1: But it has unlimited cloud storage, one hundred hours of

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Speaker 1: battery life. Is this the future? We are coming into

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Speaker 1: our entire lives recorded. You can search anything that you said,

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Speaker 1: anything you've interacted with people.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I kind of want it. You're listening

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Speaker 2: to rich On Tech.

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Speaker 11: Welcome back to rich On Tech.

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Speaker 1: Rich Demiro here hanging out with you, talking tech now

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Speaker 1: at triple eight Rich one oh one. That's eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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Speaker 11: Joining me now is.

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Speaker 1: Dan O'Dowd, green Hill Software CEO and founder of the

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Speaker 1: Dawn Project, trying to make computers safer for humanity and

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Speaker 1: a specific interest on banning Tesla full self driving.

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Speaker 11: Dan, thanks so much for joining me today.

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Speaker 10: Good to be here.

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Speaker 1: So first off, give me a little background. Tell me

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Speaker 1: what Greenhill Software does and why you started this Dawn project.

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Speaker 10: Green Hills Software developed software for safety critical systems such

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Speaker 10: as airplanes and cars are two biggest areas.

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Speaker 11: And what about the Dawn Project? What is that? What

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Speaker 11: made you start that? And what is it?

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Speaker 10: So the Dawn Project is a realization that I had

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Speaker 10: some years ago that we are putting computers in charge

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Speaker 10: of systems that people's lives depend on. And it's in

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Speaker 10: small way, but now it's become very large. We're putting

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Speaker 10: them in our cars, We're putting them in the power

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Speaker 10: which we can't live without, and water treatment plants, all

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Speaker 10: these things a large infrastructure people's lives literally depend on.

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Speaker 1: It.

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Speaker 10: If they go out, people will die. And yet we're

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Speaker 10: putting software to control those devices. That's the same stuff

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Speaker 10: that we use on our desktops, which fail quite regularly.

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Speaker 10: And the Dawn Project is advocacy group basically get people

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Speaker 10: to realize this and also to say we need to

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Speaker 10: set better standards. We need to test that software and

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Speaker 10: make sure it's reliable. And one of our first examples

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Speaker 10: is the full self driving product from Tesla, where it's

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Speaker 10: driving your car, it's controlling your car, your hands aren't

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Speaker 10: even on the steering wheel, and it's driving, it's turning,

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Speaker 10: it's stopping at stop lights. But it's very, very unreliable.

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Speaker 10: In fact, it's like it's unlikely to go one hour

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Speaker 10: without trying to crash, without making a serious mistake, crashing

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Speaker 10: into some other car on the road, in a parking lot, anywhere.

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Speaker 10: It's it's really clumsy. It's amazingly bad. You never know

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Speaker 10: what it's going to do. It you're driving along and

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Speaker 10: it'll just suddenly jerk the wheel into another lane, into

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Speaker 10: a parked car, and it's frightening. You think you're going

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Speaker 10: to die. I don't want that in my car. There's

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Speaker 10: no reason to have something that is that effective that

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Speaker 10: in an hour, two hours, three hours, it's going to

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Speaker 10: literally try to kill you.

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Speaker 1: Now, Tesla just recently lowered the price of their self

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Speaker 1: driving software. So it used to be two hundred dollars

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Speaker 1: a month. Now it's one hundred dollars a month. They

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Speaker 1: call it full self driving Supervised. But the reality is

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Speaker 1: many more people are going to subscribe to this and

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Speaker 1: use it because of this lower price. What does that

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Speaker 1: tell you? What are you worried about that?

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Speaker 10: Yes, that that people will try it? Now, what we

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Speaker 10: good There is a piece of good news here the product.

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Speaker 10: You can buy it outright for twelve thousand dollars, or

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Speaker 10: you can pay ninety nine dollars a month. It used

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Speaker 10: to be two hundred dollars a month, one ninety nine

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Speaker 10: just until a few days ago. But what we discovered

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Speaker 10: is people who fought this product and put it in

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Speaker 10: their car, they're not using it. Eighty five percent of

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Speaker 10: the time. They were very excited. They heard a hout

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Speaker 10: how great it is. Right now, Elon Musk is around

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Speaker 10: touting that this is weird on the verge of full autonomy.

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Speaker 10: This thing is this, I can see it. It's gonna

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Speaker 10: be It's going to be really soon. By the end

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Speaker 10: of the year, it's going to be full autonomy. It's

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Speaker 10: going to be great. Of course, he said that every

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Speaker 10: year for the last decade they say, Okay, this is

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Speaker 10: not I'm not going to use this, and they just

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Speaker 10: they put it on the shelf and they don't turn

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Speaker 10: it on. Every now and then they hear about the

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Speaker 10: great new release that solved all the problems, they try

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Speaker 10: it again, same problems occur, they stop using it. We're

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Speaker 10: actually recommending that people try this, but be very careful.

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Speaker 10: As Tesla actually says, it's it's highly unreliable. It can

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Speaker 10: swerve for no reason into the other lane, so be

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Speaker 10: super careful, be watching it like a hawk. But it

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Speaker 10: will do something terrible, and then stop using it. It's

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Speaker 10: the only way for people to understand it. I can

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Speaker 10: explain it till you've been there and experience the terror yourself.

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Speaker 10: I can't tell you how bad it feels.

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Speaker 1: How is this allowed to control cars?

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Speaker 17: Then?

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Speaker 1: Are there no regulations against you know? Don't aren't there

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Speaker 1: rules for driving? Like I had to go to a

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Speaker 1: driver's z and I had to take a test to

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Speaker 1: drive a car.

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Speaker 11: How come software is allowed to do whatever? It wants.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, well, we decided to try that, so we took

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Speaker 10: it out for a d MD test. You got a

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Speaker 10: great video on it showing what happened. It's actually four

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Speaker 10: times it did something that the instructor said, you don't

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Speaker 10: get your license if you if you do that it, yeah,

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Speaker 10: it can't. It can't pass a driver's test. Doesn't know

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Speaker 10: what a do not enter sign is, simply simply doesn't

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Speaker 10: understand it. If you have a school bus, it stops,

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Speaker 10: the rights are flashing, the stop sign is out, the

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Speaker 10: kids are getting off the bus. It'll go right by

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Speaker 10: it at forty miles an hour. It's amazing. You get

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Speaker 10: to a school zone it says forty miles an hour

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Speaker 10: twenty five when children present, it'll drive forty miles an

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Speaker 10: hour through that zone with kids all over the place.

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Speaker 10: We've got videos of this. If there's a kid in

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Speaker 10: a school crosswalk walking across the road, that has to

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Speaker 10: be kind of a small child. Big ones it you

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Speaker 10: can see, but a small child, it will run them down.

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Speaker 10: We have videos to show that as well. It's really

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Speaker 10: quite amazing. We have been to Nitza with the federal government,

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Speaker 10: to the state government of the DMB We've shown them

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Speaker 10: the videos a year ago and they still haven't fixed

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Speaker 10: the problems. They claim it's not a self driving car

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Speaker 10: and therefore they're not subject to the self driving car regulation,

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Speaker 10: so they can pretty much do what they want, which

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Speaker 10: I think is completely wrong. But that's where we stand today.

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Speaker 1: Do you see any benefit to this full self driving

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Speaker 1: technology or do you think it should be banned entirely?

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Speaker 10: What they need to do is take it off the market.

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Speaker 10: It needs to be recalled. It needs to be off

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Speaker 10: the market. They need to fix all of these problems

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Speaker 10: before they put it back on.

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Speaker 11: What Tesla is doing is one thing.

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Speaker 1: How does it compare to what other automakers are doing

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Speaker 1: in the driving area?

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Speaker 10: Tesla is the worst by far. They claim to be

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Speaker 10: the leader in automobile, in autonomous vehicles, The truth is

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Speaker 10: there in last place, it is absolutely terrible. You can

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Speaker 10: go right now, you're you're in La. They've got weaymos.

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Speaker 10: You can call up a Weimo in Los Angeles and

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Speaker 10: it will come to you. No driver, pick you up

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Speaker 10: in Los almost everywhere in Los Angeles to almost everywhere

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Speaker 10: else in Los Angeles and drive you there.

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Speaker 1: So you're not against this idea of cars driving us

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Speaker 1: and you actually think that Weimo does a good job,

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Speaker 1: a better job than.

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Speaker 10: Tesla a hundred times. It's not even comparable. It's working

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Speaker 10: quite well.

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Speaker 1: What do you think the difference is? Tesla has a

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Speaker 1: lot of money, They've got a lot of engineers. Weimo

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Speaker 1: is part of Google. They have more sensors on their cars.

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Speaker 1: Is that what it is?

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Speaker 11: What do you think Tesla needs to do to fix this?

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Speaker 10: Well, definitely the sensor is an issue, right, They've got

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Speaker 10: they've got the light r and they've got radar and

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Speaker 10: ultrasonic sensors as well that Tesla does not have. That

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Speaker 10: has to contribute. They do say that. I mean, if

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Speaker 10: you ask the people the way of people Google people,

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Speaker 10: they'll say it's essential. You can't think you can that

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Speaker 10: you can build a self driving car without without those

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Speaker 10: without lighter. But Elon Musk personally says that's not true.

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Speaker 10: It's ridiculous. He says I can drive. He says, I

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Speaker 10: can drive my own car. I don't need light ar,

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Speaker 10: I just have two eyes. I can do it. Why

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Speaker 10: can't we do it with cameras well? One reason is

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Speaker 10: your cameras your eyes are about five hundred times more

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Speaker 10: resolution than those cameras they have, they have one megapixel cameras.

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Speaker 1: So what is your advice to consumers Tesla owners who

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Speaker 1: see this at you know, the free trial or the

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Speaker 1: ninety nine dollars a month, what's your advice to them?

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Speaker 5: Try it?

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Speaker 10: But and I'm just quoting what Tesla says, be like

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Speaker 10: a hawk. You know it's going to try to kill

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Speaker 10: you. You know it's going to try to crash into a

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Speaker 10: parked car or across the yellow line or whatever. You

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Speaker 10: sit there and you have to be watching continuously everywhere.

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Speaker 10: You have to look at the lanes beside you to

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Speaker 10: make sure that they're nobody there because it will do

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Speaker 10: something crazy. You just have to be sitting there waiting

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Speaker 10: for it. This is no fun. You are supervising. You

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Speaker 10: are in charge of making sure when it does something

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Speaker 10: dumb and it will, that you save the car. You

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Speaker 10: save the car and then your life.

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Speaker 11: So I'm curious with your Green Hills software.

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Speaker 1: You said you you super specialize in safety software for

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Speaker 1: different planes and cars. Are you trying to build a

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Speaker 1: world where your software is in the Tesla or they

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Speaker 1: purchased something like some people might say like, hey, don't

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Speaker 1: you have a conflict of interest here because you make

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Speaker 1: this software that can make cars safer.

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Speaker 10: Well, I mean, you know if you had you know,

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Speaker 10: if you had a vaccine for medicine, would you not

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Speaker 10: tell people that you know that you can solve their problem?

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Speaker 10: I'm not. I actually I was. I've been advertising on

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Speaker 10: Twitter for people to take the free trial. So there's

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Speaker 10: right now a free trial two million. Everybody who has

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Speaker 10: a Tesla can download the full self driving for free

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Speaker 10: for one month and drive it all they want. I'm

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Speaker 10: actually advertising on Twitter that people to do that, just

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Speaker 10: so they can understand how bad it is.

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Speaker 1: Can you say anything nice about the Tesla that's not

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Speaker 1: related to the self driving? Do you think it's a

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Speaker 1: good automobile and the whole ev movement or no?

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Speaker 10: Well, I own to eight Tesla's. My roadsters are my

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Speaker 10: favorite things. Driving to work is my favorite activity of

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Speaker 10: the day, and driving home because in the road story,

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Speaker 10: it's the best car ever made in my opinion. My

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Speaker 10: wife's been driving a Model S since twenty twelve. It's

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Speaker 10: the same one. It's over eleven years old. It's the

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Speaker 10: family car, and it works great and we've always been

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Speaker 10: happy with it.

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Speaker 1: All right, Dan O'Dowd, how can folks learn more about

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Speaker 1: the Dawn.

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Speaker 10: Project Dawnproject dot com.

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Speaker 1: Dan O'Dowd Greenhill Software, CEO and founder of the Dawn Project,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much.

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Speaker 11: For joining me today.

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Speaker 10: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 11: More rich on Tech coming your way right after this.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging

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Speaker 1: out with you talking technology at triple eight Rich one

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Speaker 2: So let's go to William. Whoops, that's not William. There's William,

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Speaker 2: William and Chino. You're on with Rich.

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Speaker 18: Hi, Rich, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what can I help with?

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Speaker 18: Well, occasionally we are I'm unable to go to church,

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Speaker 18: maybe due to sickness or whatever, so we live stream

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Speaker 18: it on the TV and we go through a PS four.

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Speaker 18: And what I'm finding is that when we do that,

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Speaker 18: but in an hour's amount of time, sometimes two, three,

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Speaker 18: or even four times, the live stream gets cut off

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Speaker 18: and we have to I have to back up and

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Speaker 18: click on it again, get back into it. And I'm wondering,

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Speaker 18: is it the PS four or could it be my TV?

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Speaker 18: I'm certain it's not white by because I can watch

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Speaker 18: Netflix or YouTube and no problems.

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Speaker 3: All.

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Speaker 1: Yes, But here's the thing. Number one, how are you

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Speaker 1: streaming this? Does this on like a website?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, we go, I go onto the PS four, I

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Speaker 18: go into the WWW, and then I click on their

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Speaker 18: website and then click on the online button.

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Speaker 2: So so number one.

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Speaker 1: So YouTube and Netflix are companies one hundred built around streaming.

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Speaker 1: So they are the best technology for the best technology

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Speaker 1: for streaming known to mankind. So their entire technology is

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Speaker 1: getting a stream to start on almost any speed connection

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Speaker 1: and still be super high quality. So they have built

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Speaker 1: the best technology, and those two companies, specifically YouTube and Netflix,

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Speaker 1: probably have the best streaming technology in the entire world.

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Speaker 1: So that is why they always work and you never

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Speaker 1: see an issue with the streaming on those two services.

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Speaker 1: Now when it comes to your local church, they are

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Speaker 1: using a third party streaming service, and there are so

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Speaker 1: many points of failure between the church and your house

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Speaker 1: that could be contributing to an issue with that live stream.

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Speaker 1: So the first thing I would do is just ask

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Speaker 1: everyone else that's watching the live stream, like are you

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Speaker 1: having issues? Like is this buffering for you? Like talk

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Speaker 1: to the congregation and see what the folks there are

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Speaker 1: saying about this. So if everyone's having an issue, it

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Speaker 1: could be the way the signal is being sent out

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Speaker 1: from the church. It could be the system that they're

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Speaker 1: using to live stream this. Maybe one day if they

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Speaker 1: use like Facebook or something or even YouTube to live stream,

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Speaker 1: it comes through perfectly and it could be your PS

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Speaker 1: four receiving that signal. But you're saying that the Netflix

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Speaker 1: and all the YouTube stuff works properly. So the reality

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Speaker 1: is there's there's so many variables with a live stream

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Speaker 1: that's originating from a local church versus a stream that

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Speaker 1: is coming from Netflix or YouTube. So my advice kind

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Speaker 1: of investigate, talk to the church, have them maybe send

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Speaker 1: out a survey is this happening to other people? And

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Speaker 1: maybe they can, you know, investigate the service that they're

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Speaker 1: using to send out this live stream. It could be

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Speaker 1: that maybe they need to upgrade the plan, could be

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Speaker 1: that they need to upgrade the connection that they're using.

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Speaker 1: Are they using Wi Fi to send out the signal

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Speaker 1: or are they using an Ethernet connection? So all of

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Speaker 1: these things could make a very big difference in what

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Speaker 1: the live stream looks like and how it arrives to

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Speaker 1: your house, and also how it looks when it gets

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Speaker 1: to your house. So good question, William. Thanks for the

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Speaker 1: call today from Chino, California. Let's go to Bill in

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Speaker 1: Santa Monica, Bill your Own with Rich.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I want to relay an exasperating experience that I

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Speaker 9: had over at Walmart involving Mobile X, which was featured

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Speaker 9: last week on your show. Essentially, the departments are abandoned

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Speaker 9: of store personnel. Everything is behind plexiglass fee through but can't.

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Speaker 2: Touch Yep, that's happening.

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Speaker 9: There is no indication that Mobile X is being promoted.

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Speaker 9: And I had to track down a staff personnel to

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Speaker 9: basically find out about Mobile X. And apparently the only

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Speaker 9: thing that they have, and it's locked behind the counter,

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Speaker 9: a full box of SIM cards for Mobile X. They

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Speaker 9: don't carry Mobile X phones. They don't carry unlocked phones

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Speaker 9: that would be appropriate for the SIM card. I asked

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Speaker 9: the person, I have a locked phone from another carrier.

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Speaker 9: Would it be possible to install the SIM card in

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Speaker 9: a locked phone? Is there any feasibility for doing that?

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Speaker 9: He doesn't know. Is there a manager in the department?

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Speaker 9: No manager today. Would the manager know anymore than the

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Speaker 9: staff person I'm talking to? He doesn't know. There is

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Speaker 9: no literature on Mobile X over there. And my second

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Speaker 9: question would be, because I've always been told to avoid

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Speaker 9: the Moto unlocked phones that best Buy cells, are there

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Speaker 9: any unlocked phones that you recommend that are in a

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Speaker 9: reasonable price range?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely so.

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Speaker 1: The first one I'd probably recommend is Now, are you

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Speaker 1: buying this in a store or are you buying it online?

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Speaker 2: Do you want to go to a store.

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Speaker 9: Well, basically, I am an old time shopper and I

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Speaker 9: prefer to look at the merchandise.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I understand that, so I think the best

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Speaker 1: I think the best like unlocked phone out there is

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Speaker 1: probably going to be something like the Google Pixel seven A.

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Speaker 1: But the problem is Google is coming out their new

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Speaker 1: phone very soon, the AA that's going to be announced

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Speaker 1: probably May fifteenth.

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Speaker 2: So I would I would hold off.

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Speaker 1: You're going to buy a Pixel, but I would say

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Speaker 1: a phone like that is going to give you the

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Speaker 1: least amount of issues with the software and the hardware,

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Speaker 1: like if you want a nice phone that's going to

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Speaker 1: last for a very long time and not give you

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Speaker 1: a lot of And by the way, the software on

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Speaker 1: these phones are updated for like almost I think Google

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Speaker 1: announced seven years last time, really, but we have to

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Speaker 1: wait for the for the eight A, not the seven A.

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Speaker 1: That one is still last year's model. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: still great, but my point is the new one's coming out.

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Speaker 1: The other phone I would take a look at is

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Speaker 1: the one plus Nord that is a really good, unlocked,

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Speaker 1: inexpensive phone. The other one is the Nothing. But these

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Speaker 1: are all phones that you have to go yeah, and

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Speaker 1: that's the Nothing to A and that is like probably

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Speaker 1: every single person that I didn't review it because you

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Speaker 1: have to sign up for a developers account, which you know, Bill,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you probably want to go through that.

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Speaker 1: But to answer your question about these Motorola phones, I

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Speaker 1: think they're fine because they don't have too much bloatwear

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Speaker 1: on them. I don't think the camera is going to

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Speaker 1: be as good and the software, you know, it's pretty good,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty clean and well.

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Speaker 9: I was told about the Motive phones is that they

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Speaker 9: simply don't operate there or they don't update they're operating.

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Speaker 2: And that's very often. Yeah, that was my issue.

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Speaker 1: So I think if you want that, I think the

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Speaker 1: Google Pixel like this, the a lineup for the Google

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Speaker 1: Pixel is going to be your best bet. Or you

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Speaker 1: can even get the Pixel eight on sale at a

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Speaker 1: decent price. And again you can keep that for seven years,

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Speaker 1: so that's a long time, and they update the software

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Speaker 1: on a regular basis.

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Speaker 2: Now real quick.

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Speaker 1: With respect to the whole Walmart and Mobile X, this

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Speaker 1: is the issue with saving money on your phone line

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Speaker 1: like this. With these mv and os, there are many

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Speaker 1: of them that are a lot cheaper. The problem is

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Speaker 1: it is mostly deiy which means you're doing everything yourself.

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01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:24,600
Speaker 1: There's not a huge customer service component unless you're interacting

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Speaker 1: with these companies online. Eighty eight rich one O one

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Speaker 1: eighty eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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Speaker 1: This is rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: Rich Tomuro here with you for another hour at eight

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Speaker 1: You can find me on X you can find me

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Speaker 1: on Instagram, you can find me on Facebook, and I

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Speaker 1: don't know where else can you find me? Just depends Threads. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm you know, I don't. I'm not really doing the Threads.

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Speaker 1: I just I can't get into it. It's two, uh

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Speaker 1: you know, between the other three. It's already enough. And

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Speaker 1: I know some people cross posts and things like that,

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Speaker 1: but Threads is just not doing it. Also the problem

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Speaker 1: is if I was on Instagram, Facebook and Threads, one

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Speaker 1: company would control all of my social media meta and

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Speaker 1: you know, you know I always recommend third party kind

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Speaker 1: of software and stuff like that. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: be beholden to just one company, so I do try

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Speaker 1: to put my stuff in different places.

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Speaker 2: Very excited for our interview this hour.

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Speaker 1: Rosi Okamura, also known better known as Rosie Irl.

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Speaker 2: She is a voice.

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Speaker 1: Actor and content creator. She does something really fun. She

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Speaker 1: does these videos where she prank calls scam callers, and

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Speaker 1: since she's a voice actor, she does some really fun things.

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Speaker 1: These videos get pretty wild and she just messes with

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Speaker 1: these people to waste their time, and she also offers

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Speaker 1: people tips on how to stay safe. So we will

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Speaker 1: talk to her later this hour. Very excited for that.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Edward in Tampa, Florida. Edward, you're on

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Speaker 1: with Rich.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: Rich, it's great to hear.

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01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 16: I always listened to your show every Saturday. And excuse

1522
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:28,679
Speaker 16: me if I mentioned this, but since I'm wasn't working,

1523
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 16: I had to. I did the cheap, cheap way of

1524
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 16: get in the new battery at Battery Plus. But I

1525
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 16: have a iPhone, etc. And your producer will tell me

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01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:43,560
Speaker 16: obviously there's upgrade SCS. What is your recommendation if I

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01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 16: want to stick.

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01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 9: With se.

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01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 2: Okay?

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01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 1: So the first thing I do is I go to

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01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 1: the mac Rumors Buyer's guide.

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01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 2: So this is a have you heard of this website?

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01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 5: No?

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01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 16: No?

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01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 1: Okay, So this is a great site, which what they

1536
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:02,919
Speaker 1: do is they log all of the different Apple products,

1537
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 1: so every iPhone, every maccomputer, every iPad, because pretty much

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01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:10,599
Speaker 1: every product that Apple makes is on a certain cycle

1539
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 1: until they come out with the new product. So I'm

1540
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 1: gonna go to that macro's Buyer's Guide dot MacRumors dot com.

1541
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 1: Before you buy any Apple product, you should always consult

1542
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 1: this because you don't want to buy a product and

1543
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 1: then three weeks later or four weeks later, they come

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01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:26,600
Speaker 1: out with a new one. So I click iPhone S

1545
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:31,799
Speaker 1: and the latest one was put out in March twenty

1546
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 1: twenty two. Now do you have the one that was

1547
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:34,680
Speaker 1: before that?

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01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 5: Yeah?

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01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 16: If I had a guess, I'm gonna say it was

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01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 16: twenty twenty.

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01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 1: Okay, So you have the original se So this is

1552
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 1: the this is the second version of it, and it's

1553
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:47,719
Speaker 1: a great little phone. It's it's still got the fingerprint reader.

1554
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 1: It's it was about I think it was four hundred

1555
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 1: and twenty nine dollars. It's got the latest chip in it,

1556
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 1: or the latest chip at that time, five G. But

1557
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:59,559
Speaker 1: here's the thing, it's been seven hundred and seventy four

1558
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:03,560
Speaker 1: days since they came out with that phone. The average

1559
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 1: release time between iPhone ses is seven hundred and twenty

1560
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 1: five days. Now, there's two things going on here. Number One,

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01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that Apple will come out with a

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01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 1: new iPhone se just because they're you know, they have

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01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:24,760
Speaker 1: moved away from this touch ID, so there's not a guarantee.

1564
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 1: But on the on the flip side, it's an inexpensive

1565
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 1: phone and a lot of people still like that fingerprint sensor.

1566
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 1: And I'm looking at the now. The other thing this art,

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01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 1: this website does really well is it puts all the

1568
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 1: articles about these devices on the right hand side, so

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01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:42,719
Speaker 1: I can see April second, they just had an article

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01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 1: and uh March twenty seventh, and it looks like they

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01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,640
Speaker 1: are gonna come out with a new iPhone s so

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01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 1: SC four and it looks like it's gonna have a

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01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:56,679
Speaker 1: six point one inch screen. It looks like it's gonna

1574
01:17:56,680 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 1: have an iPhone fourteen like design. So my advice to

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01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 1: you is to probably wait. If you want to stick

1576
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 1: with the fingerprint sensor, just wait. Wait for any day

1577
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 1: Apple might say, hey, we have a new iPhone se.

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01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 1: I don't expect them to announce this in June at

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01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:16,639
Speaker 1: their next event, So we're talking anytime between now and June.

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01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:19,519
Speaker 1: They could probably put out a press release and say, oh,

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01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 1: here's the new iPhone.

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01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 16: Se run that WebCAT again for me, because I want

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01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 16: to write this. I got something to write on.

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01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:36,800
Speaker 1: Sure, it's Buyer's Guide dot dot mac rumors, MacRumors dot com,

1585
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 1: and of course I'll link that up on my website,

1586
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 1: rich on tip dot tv. But that is a you know,

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01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 1: are you not wanting to go with the face ID

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01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 1: with the standard iPhone or what?

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01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 16: No, I don't need all the fancy stuff. So I'm

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01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 16: pretty satisfied. Which is the basic gadgets in it?

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01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, because they are, you know, if you want

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01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 1: to get if you do decide that you want to go,

1593
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 1: get a little bit of an upgrade with a face ID,

1594
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:10,559
Speaker 1: which I actually do really think is handy. The iPhone thirteen.

1595
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 1: Apple is still officially selling that. It starts at five

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01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 1: ninety nine, and so the main thing is that you

1597
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 1: know that phone is also a couple of years old.

1598
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 1: I'm trying to see the processor inside that phone.

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01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 2: Let's see here. I can't. I don't see it. Off

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01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 2: the top of this website right here. Oh, here we go.

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01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 1: iPhone fourteen let's see here. Okay, so there's still a

1602
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:36,839
Speaker 1: lot of them are still using that A fifteen Bionic

1603
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 1: and they're up to the A seventeen. I think that

1604
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 1: if you don't mind the you know, slightly older iPhone,

1605
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 1: you know you're going to be just fine. These things

1606
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 1: are still that the processors that Apple has put out

1607
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 1: in the last couple of years have been incredible.

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01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 16: So yeah, the good needs to be a sure thing

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01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 16: is thought. That would be working at a hospital job,

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01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 16: so obviously with that's going to be helpful, I'll have

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01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 16: an option to do the older then, so that's going

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01:19:59,920 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 16: to great. Could be patient's all.

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01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:04,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say be patient if you still want

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01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:06,439
Speaker 1: to go with that. Se I would not buy the

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01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 1: one that's currently available, just because it seems like any

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01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 1: day now there will be a new one, so I

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01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 1: would just wait. Yeah, yeah, okay you patients is key Edward,

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01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for the call today. Appreciate it. Uh.

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01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 1: If you've opened up your Instagram this weekend, maybe you've

1620
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 1: noticed something new on the search bar when you go

1621
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 1: to your message area. It now says in the search bar,

1622
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 1: ask Meta AI anything. This is a huge push by

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01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 1: Meta which obviously owns Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, Messenger. They are

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01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 1: pushing their new Meta AI. It's just like chat GPT,

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01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:50,680
Speaker 1: except it is trained on all kinds of stuff, including

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01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 1: all the social media posts and pictures that we've been

1627
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 1: uploading for the past I don't know, ten years or

1628
01:20:56,160 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 1: so onto Facebook. So Meta AI, if if you want

1629
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 1: to access it, you can do it right through Instagram,

1630
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 1: right through Facebook, right through WhatsApp, right through Messenger. Just

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01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:08,679
Speaker 1: tap in that little search bar and it says, ask

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01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 1: Meta AI anything.

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01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 2: What can you ask it?

1634
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 1: Well, pretty much anything that you would ask chat ebt

1635
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 1: you can ask. It's given me suggestions here tips for

1636
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 1: home renovation, five cross country road trip tips. Screenwriting advice

1637
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:24,600
Speaker 1: that must be local for the LA folks.

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01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 2: I kid you not.

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01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 1: I was in a coffee place the other day, one

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01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 1: of the fanciest coffee places I've ever been, and I

1641
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:33,680
Speaker 1: was doing a story, and I kid you not, I

1642
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 1: saw the stereotypical person writing the screenplay in Hollywood at

1643
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:39,600
Speaker 1: the coffee shop, and I just had to laugh to

1644
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 1: myself because here we are in La and everyone, you know,

1645
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:45,640
Speaker 1: everyone's a creator here. Everyone's a writer here, and I

1646
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 1: was just laughing. I was like, I'm not sure I've

1647
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 1: ever actually seen that in real life, but hey, these

1648
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 1: things have to be written somewhere, and why not do

1649
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 1: it at a very lux coffee shop. Like I didn't

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01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 1: even look at the prices of the lattes here, but

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01:21:57,000 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 1: I'm guessing probably ten dollars because even Starbucks now is

1652
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 1: like up to like six I bought I got a

1653
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 1: cold brew the other day and it was like six bucks.

1654
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 1: This is why I don't buy my coffee out because

1655
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:09,719
Speaker 1: I cannot justify six dollars on a cup of coffee

1656
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 1: at least here in La If I do get it,

1657
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 1: I always get the standard just black coffee for like

1658
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 1: I think it's up to three dollars now for a cup.

1659
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:20,639
Speaker 1: But I'm also so cheap I won't even get their creamer.

1660
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 1: I will bring my own creamer and I will put

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01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:24,599
Speaker 1: it in when I get to work because I don't

1662
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 1: want to pay the extra fifty cents to a dollar

1663
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 1: for that. Believe me, That's how I am. Yeah, Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, Messenger.

1664
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:35,800
Speaker 2: You can try it.

1665
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 1: You can also try this on the website Meta dot Ai,

1666
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 1: but here's the cool thing that I think you should

1667
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 1: try before you do anything else. Go to the website

1668
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 1: Meta dot ai. This is very different from any the

1669
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 1: other AI out there. They have an image generator image

1670
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 1: generator called Imagine, and what's so cool about it is

1671
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:58,559
Speaker 1: that all the other image generators you have to type

1672
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:01,680
Speaker 1: something in and wait for it to generate that image.

1673
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 1: But on Meta AI, it regenerates the image as you type.

1674
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 1: So you can start by typing alien and it will

1675
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:12,640
Speaker 1: generate that image on the fly you'll see it. But

1676
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 1: then you can say alien, that's blue, and it will

1677
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 1: regenerate a blue alien as you're typing. And you can

1678
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 1: say that's silly, and it will regenerate a silly alien

1679
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:27,720
Speaker 1: that's blue. I mean, it's really really quite incredible what

1680
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 1: they're doing with this Imagine image generation. But if you

1681
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 1: try nothing else, go to meta dot ai and click

1682
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 1: the Imagine image generator on the left hand side of

1683
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 1: the page and try it out. You do have to

1684
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 1: be logged in to your meta account, Facebook, Instagram, whatever

1685
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 1: to try the image generator, but you can use meta

1686
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 1: AI on the website without being logged in, So try

1687
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 1: that out. And one more item of note here if

1688
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:58,600
Speaker 1: you have an older Samsung phone now we're talking the

1689
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 1: S twenty two, the Galaxy Z Fold four, the z

1690
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 1: Flip four, and the Galaxy tab S eight, you are

1691
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 1: getting You're getting a car. You're getting a car. You're

1692
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 1: getting a car. You are getting Galaxy AI features. So

1693
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 1: in May, early May. If you have one of these

1694
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 1: older Galaxy S twenty two, so now we're talking a

1695
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:24,559
Speaker 1: phone that's a couple of years old, you are getting

1696
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,879
Speaker 1: the Galaxy AI features. Circle to Search, which is awesome,

1697
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 1: Chat Assist interpreter, live Translate, noticeist, transcript Assist, browsing Assist,

1698
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 1: Generative Edit. All of these features that came out with

1699
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 1: the Galaxy S twenty four are now coming to phones

1700
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 1: that are two years old. That is incredible. I love it.

1701
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 1: Samsung is on a tear right now with not only

1702
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 1: the quality of their phones, but also the updates on

1703
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:52,799
Speaker 1: their software. So if you stuck with that older phone,

1704
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:55,680
Speaker 1: you are getting the new AI features. Look at that,

1705
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 1: you're saving money and you're still getting to try some

1706
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 1: of these awesome new features. Triple eight rich one O

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Speaker 1: one eighty eight seven four to two four one zero one.

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01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 1: Very excited for my guests this hour Rosie Okamora. She

1709
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 1: is going to talk about how she prank calls scam

1710
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:14,599
Speaker 1: callers and gets them at their own game. You are

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01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 1: listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.

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01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:24,560
Speaker 1: Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you talking technology website

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01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 1: rich on tech dot tv. You can hit contact there

1714
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 1: if you want to email, get into the feedback segment

1715
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 1: which I will share. That is your feedback on the

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01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 1: show at the end of the show rich on Tech

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01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:41,960
Speaker 1: dot Tv. Hit contact if you want notes or anything

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01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:44,840
Speaker 1: I mentioned on the show. Go to the website and

1719
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:48,200
Speaker 1: hit the light bulb icon up at the top.

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01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 2: Rick on Thousand Oaks, what's up, Hi?

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01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 17: My mother recently moved and her shelf service is really

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01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 17: really body and bad, and I was wondering, is there

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01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 17: a website where you could enter her address and it

1724
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:07,479
Speaker 17: would tell you the cell sites closest to your house

1725
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:09,600
Speaker 17: and the carriers on it, so you can kind of

1726
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 17: make a intelligent decision on which carrier you choose.

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01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:16,559
Speaker 2: There's a couple websites that do this.

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01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:21,800
Speaker 1: I can't say that they all work perfectly, but I

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01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 1: think that it can give you an idea. Now, number one,

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01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 1: there's only three cell carriers in the US three major carriers. Okay,

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01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 1: you've got T Mobile, You've got Verizon, You've got AT

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Speaker 1: and T. All of the other carriers or most of

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01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 1: the other carriers run on those three networks. Now I'm

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01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:42,639
Speaker 1: just generalizing here. Yes, there are some smaller carriers out there,

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01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 1: but those are the main ones. So my advice always

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01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 1: is to just get a friend and nine times out

1737
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:51,480
Speaker 1: of ten, you've got a friend on one of these networks,

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01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:54,760
Speaker 1: have them come into the house and try to make

1739
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 1: a call, try to use the internet, do a speed test,

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01:26:57,200 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 1: look at the signal from their phone, and that'll give

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01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 1: you a really good idea. Because the problem with all

1742
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:05,759
Speaker 1: of these website coverage maps. Number one, you can't trust

1743
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 1: the ones that are on the carrier websites because they

1744
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:10,559
Speaker 1: just show you that there is a signal. It doesn't

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01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 1: show you how good that signal is, and even if

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01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:15,720
Speaker 1: it does, you can't really know because there are so

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01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 1: many variables with the home or the interior that you're

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01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 1: going into. With that said, the website, the websites I

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01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 1: think you can look at to kind of consult Here

1750
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 1: is number one, CoverageMap dot com. So CoverageMap dot com

1751
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 1: will give you an idea, and these are mostly crowdsourced

1752
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 1: from people, so they these are people that download an app,

1753
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 1: they do a speed test or some sort of signal test,

1754
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:46,720
Speaker 1: and then that information gets fed into these websites, so

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01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 1: CoverageMap dot com. The thing I like about this one

1756
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:53,439
Speaker 1: is that it's very easy to understand. It's got a

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01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 1: lot of nice filters to go through, and so you

1758
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:58,599
Speaker 1: can put in your address and you can see kind

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01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 1: of like what is in your area, and it's it's

1760
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 1: color coded. It's very very simple to understand. So that's

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01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 1: the first stop. The other one, there's a website called

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01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 1: open Signal and this you want to download the open

1763
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 1: Signal app. So you can go to iPhone or Android

1764
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 1: download the open Signal app and that will give you

1765
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 1: very similar results for the coverage in your area. And

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01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:28,920
Speaker 1: so you can check that out. There is one. This

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01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:31,759
Speaker 1: one's a little complicated and I've not used it before,

1768
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 1: but I just found it in searching, and it's called

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01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:37,680
Speaker 1: cell mapper dot net. And this is like this kind

1770
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 1: of looks a little nerdier than the rest, but if

1771
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 1: you really want some like nerdy signal stats and things

1772
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:45,760
Speaker 1: like that, this one looks like it'll give you it

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01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 1: Cell Mapper, dot net and the other one is root Metrics,

1774
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:54,879
Speaker 1: So root Metrics now this one. A lot of times

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01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 1: these are not super local, but they will give you

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01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:01,960
Speaker 1: information for the or the area. So if you just

1777
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:03,759
Speaker 1: move to a new city and you want to see

1778
01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:08,760
Speaker 1: which carrier is strongest in that city overall, that can

1779
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 1: help you. So I'm trying to see if they have Yes,

1780
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:15,160
Speaker 1: it's more like metro area, so it's not like if

1781
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:17,760
Speaker 1: I want to look for Los Angeles, it will tell

1782
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:22,320
Speaker 1: me what the top winner is in that area, and

1783
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 1: it will.

1784
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 2: Tell you kind of like wow.

1785
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 1: It goes all the way back to twenty eleven, so

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01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 1: you can see who's been on top, and they go

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01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:35,000
Speaker 1: through overall performance, network reliability, network accessibility, network speed, data performance,

1788
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:39,799
Speaker 1: call performance, and text performance. So again, couple good places

1789
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:41,600
Speaker 1: to look there. I will link those all up on

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01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:43,720
Speaker 1: the website rich on tech dot tv, But I think

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01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 1: the best way to do it is to just have

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01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 1: a friend come over and say, hey, I need someone

1793
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:50,840
Speaker 1: on T mobile to come over to my house, or

1794
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:53,000
Speaker 1: I need someone on AT and T. And if you're

1795
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 1: using an mv and O like one of these Crickets

1796
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 1: or mint Mobile, figure out, go to Wikipedia.

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01:29:59,200 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 2: It's just or go.

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01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 1: What network does cricket run on? For Cricket, it's AT

1799
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:06,400
Speaker 1: and T. For min it's T Mobile, And then that

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01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:08,920
Speaker 1: will give you the network that you should be investigating

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01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:13,720
Speaker 1: at your house. So, rick, there's a couple of suggestions

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01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:17,120
Speaker 1: for you. Hopefully one of those will work. I thought

1803
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 1: this was interesting. Logitech is launching a mouse with a

1804
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:26,919
Speaker 1: dedicated chat GPT button, so AI is taking over everything.

1805
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 1: Their new M seven to fifty wireless mouse is the

1806
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:35,280
Speaker 1: first signature AI edition mouse with a dedicated chat GPT button,

1807
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 1: and you can just use the chat GBT button to

1808
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:42,759
Speaker 1: fire up chat GBT. This is a fifty dollars mouse.

1809
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:45,479
Speaker 1: It is available for pre order. It will work with

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01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 1: it looks like it'll work with Mac and Windows computers,

1811
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 1: but why not.

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01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:52,880
Speaker 2: I just actually switched to a new mouse. And I'm

1813
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:53,280
Speaker 2: not kidding.

1814
01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:55,080
Speaker 1: If you have problems with your arm, Like if you're

1815
01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:56,800
Speaker 1: on the computer as much as I am and your

1816
01:30:57,120 --> 01:30:59,800
Speaker 1: your elbow is hurting, or your wrist is hurting, or

1817
01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 1: your her shoulder is hurting, I just switched to the

1818
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 1: Logitech Lift. Oh my gosh, game changing my hand in

1819
01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:10,960
Speaker 1: shoulder and arm hurts less than ever before. It's kind

1820
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 1: of like a mouse that's on its side, so check

1821
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:16,400
Speaker 1: it out. Logitech Lift doesn't have the chat GBT button.

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01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:16,599
Speaker 9: Help.

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01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 1: Coming up next, we're going to talk to Irl Rosie.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to

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01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:27,640
Speaker 1: rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here talking technology with you

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01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:32,360
Speaker 1: website for the show rich on Tech dot TV. Very

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01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:36,640
Speaker 1: excited for my next guest. Perhaps you've seen her videos online.

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01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:38,800
Speaker 2: I R L Rosie.

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01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:44,439
Speaker 1: Rosie Okamura does videos where she calls scam artists and

1830
01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 1: gets them at their own game. She is a voice actress,

1831
01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:49,800
Speaker 1: so she's really good at coming up with interesting and

1832
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:50,559
Speaker 1: fun voices.

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01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 2: Rosie, Welcome to the show.

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01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:54,080
Speaker 14: Hi, thanks for having me.

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01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:56,439
Speaker 1: By the way, I mentioned to my kid that you're

1836
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:58,679
Speaker 1: gonna be on my show and he's like, oh my gosh.

1837
01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:02,639
Speaker 1: I've seen her videos on social media and it's so exciting.

1838
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 1: And he was like, there's no way. I didn't think

1839
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 1: that was real, and I said, yeah, I think it is.

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01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:10,240
Speaker 1: So explain to me what you do.

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01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:14,559
Speaker 19: First off, So I do what's called scam bating, and

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01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:18,719
Speaker 19: it's where I call the scammers in order to waste

1843
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:21,720
Speaker 19: their time for as long as possible. And sort of

1844
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:25,439
Speaker 19: educate the public on what to look out for if

1845
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:27,400
Speaker 19: and when those videos go viral.

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01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:29,960
Speaker 1: Let's play a little clip. I've got a little clip

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01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 1: from your YouTube channel. Let's hear a couple of seconds

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01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:34,040
Speaker 1: of how you do this?

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01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:37,599
Speaker 12: Oh babe, the babe put your finger on your teeth

1850
01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:39,600
Speaker 12: and say, how I'm on? I'm charlel. Thank you for

1851
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:41,080
Speaker 12: holding it, don't make no sense.

1852
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:52,879
Speaker 3: Congratulations, you've been directed for a one hundred dollars Walmart

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01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:53,439
Speaker 3: gift card.

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01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:56,200
Speaker 10: In order to contact your Walmart gift we will need

1855
01:32:56,200 --> 01:32:58,439
Speaker 10: to transfer you to a live representative. Thank you for

1856
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:01,479
Speaker 10: holding the trials, hoping you claim the reward today.

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01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:01,920
Speaker 7: Can I get you?

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01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:03,599
Speaker 11: Yeah?

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01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:10,080
Speaker 19: It's Diria d I.

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01:33:11,960 --> 01:33:14,360
Speaker 14: PA MTZ.

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01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 2: All right, So, oh, I gosh, that's funny.

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01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:24,880
Speaker 1: So what inspired you to start prank calling scammers and

1863
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:27,200
Speaker 1: turning it into this sort of educational content.

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01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:30,920
Speaker 19: I got into pranking scammers a few years ago after

1865
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:33,800
Speaker 19: my mom fell victim to one of those tech pop

1866
01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:37,479
Speaker 19: up scams. So, for example, excuse me, For example, you

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01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:40,160
Speaker 19: know you're browsing on the computer and you get a

1868
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:43,120
Speaker 19: pop up from Windows or Apple saying that you have

1869
01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:45,759
Speaker 19: a virus and to call this number and it looks

1870
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:49,200
Speaker 19: legit because they use the same logos and they will

1871
01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:52,120
Speaker 19: usually use some sort of eight hundred number, and so

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01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:53,880
Speaker 19: my mom thought that it was real.

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01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:55,240
Speaker 14: She called them.

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01:33:55,520 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 19: They offered her a lifetime subscription of their services anti

1875
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:03,960
Speaker 19: virus software, and it was about four ninety nine, four

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01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:07,599
Speaker 19: hundred and ninety nine dollars that is. And in order

1877
01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:11,160
Speaker 19: to help remove the viruses from her computer, they gained

1878
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:15,479
Speaker 19: access remote access to her computer, which you know has

1879
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:19,639
Speaker 19: all of her auto saved passwords, bank logins, you know,

1880
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:22,799
Speaker 19: notes and stuff in her computer, with her social Security number,

1881
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 19: the whole nine yards, And.

1882
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:27,160
Speaker 14: So she gave them access.

1883
01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 19: They stole her information and they got her out of

1884
01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:33,200
Speaker 19: five hundred dollars. Luckily, I was able to call the

1885
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:34,759
Speaker 19: bank in time and get that reversed.

1886
01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:36,240
Speaker 14: But I wasn't done.

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01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:39,559
Speaker 19: I asked my mom for that phone number that she called,

1888
01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:42,280
Speaker 19: and I called them back that same day, and I

1889
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:44,840
Speaker 19: went on a Facebook live stream so that my mom

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01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:46,720
Speaker 19: could watch it. This is before there were a lot

1891
01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:49,880
Speaker 19: of live stream options on different platforms.

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01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:51,400
Speaker 14: So I went on.

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01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:54,240
Speaker 19: There and prank called this guy with like a Kin

1894
01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:59,720
Speaker 19: Kardashian type impression voice, and I had this guy on

1895
01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:02,880
Speaker 19: the phone for an hour and forty five minutes.

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01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, which was wild.

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01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:07,240
Speaker 14: It went by really fast somehow.

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01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 19: And after that, you know, my inbox blew up with

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01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:12,719
Speaker 19: a bunch of friends and people that were watching, Hey,

1900
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 19: can you call this number? Oh my mom falled it

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01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:17,599
Speaker 19: for the same kind of scam? Can you call them?

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01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:21,559
Speaker 19: And I just yeah, tossed a couple of videos up

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01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:25,559
Speaker 19: on YouTube and some random person posted it on Reddit

1904
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:28,360
Speaker 19: and it blew up, and so did my YouTube channel,

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01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:29,479
Speaker 19: and I was like, I.

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01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:30,719
Speaker 14: Guess I'm doing this now.

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01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:34,599
Speaker 19: So you know, during that, I learned a lot about scams,

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01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:37,599
Speaker 19: and there's new scams every day, and I've just yeah,

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01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:39,439
Speaker 19: kind of been riding that way ever since.

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01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:44,479
Speaker 1: Well, your irl Rosie channel on YouTube has one point

1911
01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:48,559
Speaker 1: four million plus subscribers, so clearly you're doing something fun

1912
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:53,320
Speaker 1: and interesting. Tell me about, like a memorable or outrageous

1913
01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:56,040
Speaker 1: scam call that you know you were involved with.

1914
01:35:56,680 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 19: Oh boy, one of the first videos I did that

1915
01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:03,040
Speaker 19: went viral. I did a Britney Spears impression and it

1916
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:07,439
Speaker 19: was a scam that revolves around they call you and

1917
01:36:07,479 --> 01:36:09,599
Speaker 19: tell you you've won a gift card, one hundred dollars

1918
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:13,040
Speaker 19: gift card to Walmart or Target, and in order to

1919
01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:15,400
Speaker 19: receive it, you just have to pay you know, three

1920
01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:18,240
Speaker 19: dollars in shipping. And then they asked for your debit

1921
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 19: card information, so then you give that to a complete

1922
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:25,639
Speaker 19: stranger over the phone. So I called them saying, oh,

1923
01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:28,040
Speaker 19: I had a lost or I had a missed call

1924
01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:30,519
Speaker 19: a voicemail that I won some sort of gift card.

1925
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:35,080
Speaker 19: What's going on? And I used a Britney Spears voice.

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01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:38,040
Speaker 19: They asked me for like my last name, and they

1927
01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:40,280
Speaker 19: were like, we don't believe you, Like you're gonna have

1928
01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:42,640
Speaker 19: to like sing if you're really Britney Spears, and so

1929
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:43,960
Speaker 19: I did.

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01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:47,040
Speaker 14: And I told them that they were on a prank.

1931
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:51,400
Speaker 19: Show with celebrities, similar to like crank Ankers on MTV,

1932
01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:55,599
Speaker 19: and they believed me. The guy was breaking out and

1933
01:36:55,640 --> 01:36:58,840
Speaker 19: totally starstruck, and I wasted about an hour of his

1934
01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:02,639
Speaker 19: time and got to teach people about gift card scams.

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01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:05,000
Speaker 1: So your idea is that the more time you waste

1936
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:08,160
Speaker 1: of these people, the less they are able to scam

1937
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:08,759
Speaker 1: other people.

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01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:11,880
Speaker 19: Exactly, the longer they're on the phone with me, the

1939
01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:14,679
Speaker 19: less time they have to call someone who doesn't know better.

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01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 14: And then it's very entertaining in the meantime.

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01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:20,680
Speaker 1: Now you're a voice actor and uh you know by

1942
01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:24,280
Speaker 1: trade here in Los Angeles, content creator as well improv

1943
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:28,120
Speaker 1: comedy skills, all that good stuff. So can you do

1944
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:30,120
Speaker 1: a voice like what like, let's let's I'll be the

1945
01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:32,639
Speaker 1: person that's calling. I'll be like, yeah, I'll be like, hey,

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01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:35,760
Speaker 1: I need your you've won a gift card. I need

1947
01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:39,040
Speaker 1: your personal bank information so we can deposit this to

1948
01:37:39,080 --> 01:37:40,600
Speaker 1: your bank account.

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01:37:41,040 --> 01:37:41,280
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1950
01:37:41,439 --> 01:37:45,479
Speaker 19: Usually I will use an elderly lady voice and her

1951
01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:48,880
Speaker 19: name is last name Gersh. Her name Ierma, so the

1952
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:52,080
Speaker 19: scammer is forced to say iermash, which just makes me laugh.

1953
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:55,880
Speaker 8: So she talks a little like this. Her voice is

1954
01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:59,559
Speaker 8: lower and shaky and a little bit of a certain

1955
01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:02,280
Speaker 8: next there and make your say I'm a little bit

1956
01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:06,479
Speaker 8: sweeter when she's talken. And then sometimes she asks Siri

1957
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:10,080
Speaker 8: for a little bit of whop and we will go booda.

1958
01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:11,320
Speaker 14: I'm sorry, I didn't get that.

1959
01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:15,320
Speaker 19: Sometimes they get an argument and she can't figure out

1960
01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:18,759
Speaker 19: her Siri and then yeah, it's like a hole silly

1961
01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:22,680
Speaker 19: back and forth between Urma and Siri, or sometimes you

1962
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:25,839
Speaker 19: know Alexa, which is a little bit more human sounding,

1963
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:27,719
Speaker 19: but still you know robotic.

1964
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:30,840
Speaker 2: Do these people hang up on you or do they

1965
01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:32,040
Speaker 2: are they laughing?

1966
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:32,320
Speaker 11: Like?

1967
01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:34,320
Speaker 1: What and where these people located a lot like do

1968
01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:36,559
Speaker 1: you get the sense of like are they out of

1969
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:37,880
Speaker 1: the US or in the US.

1970
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:39,599
Speaker 2: These scammers, I've.

1971
01:38:39,400 --> 01:38:43,360
Speaker 14: Had scammers from all over. The gift card scammer was US.

1972
01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:44,920
Speaker 14: It was US based.

1973
01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:48,160
Speaker 19: Uh you know, a lot of them come from India, Nigeria.

1974
01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:54,040
Speaker 19: But you know there's scammers everywhere. Unfortunately. Uh So it

1975
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:58,400
Speaker 19: gets pretty pretty crazy. And they have hung up bopping before,

1976
01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:01,519
Speaker 19: just because after a while they realize I'm wasting their time.

1977
01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:04,960
Speaker 19: Sometimes they catch on to the joke and they're bored

1978
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:05,680
Speaker 19: at work.

1979
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:08,879
Speaker 14: Work work, they're board you know over.

1980
01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:11,439
Speaker 19: There in the scam call center, and they sometimes will

1981
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:13,960
Speaker 19: have a little bit of fun with me. They will

1982
01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:15,799
Speaker 19: sometimes push the limit and get.

1983
01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:18,599
Speaker 14: A little you know, weird, which you know, I.

1984
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:21,120
Speaker 19: Have to hang up the phone sometimes and I could

1985
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:23,920
Speaker 19: just call someone else back instead. But yeah, they do

1986
01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:27,200
Speaker 19: hang up. They have laughed, they do go along with

1987
01:39:27,240 --> 01:39:29,679
Speaker 19: it once in a while. So it's all different kinds.

1988
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:31,160
Speaker 19: It's different every time I call.

1989
01:39:31,439 --> 01:39:35,240
Speaker 1: Has anyone ever seen their video go viral and kind

1990
01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:39,160
Speaker 1: of contacted you? Like these scam artists to say anything.

1991
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:44,360
Speaker 19: So sometimes they can tell that I am at least

1992
01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:47,960
Speaker 19: a YouTuber just based on you know, we we sort

1993
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:49,519
Speaker 19: of we're all friends with each other, right, and we

1994
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:52,479
Speaker 19: all share the numbers together and we call them all

1995
01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:53,360
Speaker 19: at the same time.

1996
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:56,000
Speaker 14: And the scammers are like, what's your YouTube channel?

1997
01:39:56,040 --> 01:39:58,080
Speaker 19: Like, I know that you're just live streaming me and

1998
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:00,240
Speaker 19: you're wasting my time and I.

1999
01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:02,080
Speaker 14: Hope you get a lot of views on your YouTube.

2000
01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:03,519
Speaker 12: Being all mad about it.

2001
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:04,920
Speaker 14: Sometimes they get excited.

2002
01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:07,280
Speaker 19: They're like, oh, you're the Alexa girl, Like you're the theory,

2003
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:08,559
Speaker 19: You're the Seeria girl.

2004
01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:10,519
Speaker 14: I'm a fan of your videos.

2005
01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:15,120
Speaker 19: Like then why do you still work there? But sometimes

2006
01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:18,960
Speaker 19: they will recognize me or or know what's going on.

2007
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:20,879
Speaker 14: But it's always very entertaining.

2008
01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:23,759
Speaker 1: Okay, what's what's the advice you would give to someone

2009
01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:26,840
Speaker 1: who suspects they're being targeted by a scammer? And how

2010
01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:29,400
Speaker 1: do you even tell? Sometimes like what's your what do

2011
01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:31,280
Speaker 1: you what's your big takeaway from all this?

2012
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:33,599
Speaker 2: And what do you want to impart on people?

2013
01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:37,439
Speaker 19: My big takeaway and the biggest thing I say is

2014
01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:40,639
Speaker 19: you don't first of all, don't answer the phone.

2015
01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:41,879
Speaker 14: Who answers their phone anymore.

2016
01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:46,240
Speaker 19: If you have a bank or a service calling, you

2017
01:40:46,360 --> 01:40:48,720
Speaker 19: just hang up and call the number back that's the

2018
01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:51,960
Speaker 19: official number from the website, because sometimes these scammers can

2019
01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:55,360
Speaker 19: spoof the actual phone number. So even if it does

2020
01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:57,559
Speaker 19: show up as well as Fargo or US Bank, or

2021
01:40:57,600 --> 01:40:59,679
Speaker 19: even if you type it in while they're on the phone,

2022
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:02,840
Speaker 19: it don't check, that could still be a scammer. So

2023
01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:06,240
Speaker 19: I always tell people just hang up and call back

2024
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:08,840
Speaker 19: and just deal with the whole times. Even when it's

2025
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:12,120
Speaker 19: loved ones calling and there's an emergency. There's a big

2026
01:41:12,160 --> 01:41:15,720
Speaker 19: scam going on of people faking car accidents or being

2027
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:19,760
Speaker 19: arrested and needing bail money or needing money for some

2028
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:24,519
Speaker 19: kind of emergency procedure, and a lot of AI is

2029
01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:25,919
Speaker 19: copying people's voices.

2030
01:41:26,479 --> 01:41:29,120
Speaker 14: So my big thing is hang up, even if.

2031
01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:31,760
Speaker 19: It's like an emergency and it sounds like someone you know,

2032
01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:34,439
Speaker 19: hang up and just call them back right away with

2033
01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:37,320
Speaker 19: the number that you have on your end, just because

2034
01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:40,880
Speaker 19: spoofing is so scary. AI is like out of control.

2035
01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:43,960
Speaker 19: And then you know, when it comes to things on

2036
01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:47,639
Speaker 19: your computer or weird text messages from a fake shipping company,

2037
01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:49,439
Speaker 19: just don't click on anything.

2038
01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:50,200
Speaker 14: Don't click on.

2039
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:53,360
Speaker 19: Anything, dot into the phone, you know, always hang up

2040
01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:54,000
Speaker 19: and call back.

2041
01:41:54,560 --> 01:42:00,120
Speaker 1: All right, Rosie Okamura, voice actress and content creator, thank

2042
01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:01,519
Speaker 1: you so much for joining me. I'm gonna let you

2043
01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:04,160
Speaker 1: take us to break So can you just let people

2044
01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:07,240
Speaker 1: know where they can find you and you know, online,

2045
01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:09,040
Speaker 1: and then say you're listening to rich on Tech, but

2046
01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:11,080
Speaker 1: do it in one of your fun voices and take us.

2047
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:11,519
Speaker 2: To break here.

2048
01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:14,559
Speaker 14: Sure, thanks for listening to rich on Tech.

2049
01:42:14,840 --> 01:42:17,439
Speaker 19: Next we have a nice commercial break, and don't forget

2050
01:42:17,439 --> 01:42:20,040
Speaker 19: to follow me on all platforms at IRL.

2051
01:42:20,240 --> 01:42:25,280
Speaker 2: Rosie, great, welcome back to rich on Tech. What a

2052
01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:30,599
Speaker 2: great interview. Oh my gosh, that was fun. Welcome back

2053
01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:31,200
Speaker 2: to the show.

2054
01:42:32,040 --> 01:42:34,280
Speaker 1: I'm going to get to the feedback segment in just

2055
01:42:34,360 --> 01:42:36,960
Speaker 1: a second, but first let me just get through a

2056
01:42:37,000 --> 01:42:40,000
Speaker 1: couple things in a lightning round here. First off, Amazon,

2057
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:44,240
Speaker 1: apparently we're removing it's just walk out technology from their

2058
01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 1: Amazon Fresh stores in the US, So if you use

2059
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:49,680
Speaker 1: this at the grocery store a couple locations in the

2060
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:52,519
Speaker 1: LA area and other cities in America, apparently they're getting

2061
01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:55,280
Speaker 1: rid of that, but they're not giving up on the technology.

2062
01:42:55,479 --> 01:42:59,560
Speaker 1: They are going to license it to other third party businesses,

2063
01:42:59,680 --> 01:43:02,120
Speaker 1: so I know a lot of stadiums have this and

2064
01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:04,360
Speaker 1: things like that. The one thing I wanted to mention

2065
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:09,160
Speaker 1: Amazon denies that they're just walk out technology was powered

2066
01:43:09,200 --> 01:43:12,280
Speaker 1: by contractors in India who would kind of watch what

2067
01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:14,120
Speaker 1: you were shopping for and add everything up.

2068
01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:15,280
Speaker 2: I knew that wasn't the case.

2069
01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:19,840
Speaker 1: Google is getting rid of their Google one VPN for

2070
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:25,639
Speaker 1: their Google one subscribers, but the Pixel VPN will remain,

2071
01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:30,559
Speaker 1: so I guess nobody's using the Google one VPN, but

2072
01:43:30,640 --> 01:43:33,360
Speaker 1: if you have a Pixel you'll still have that. Charter

2073
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:36,200
Speaker 1: is trying to fight back against the Fubos of the

2074
01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:39,120
Speaker 1: world and the YouTube TVs. They are now introducing their

2075
01:43:39,160 --> 01:43:43,839
Speaker 1: own streaming TV package. It's got up to ninety channels

2076
01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:47,559
Speaker 1: or ninety plus live popular channels. I don't think there's

2077
01:43:47,560 --> 01:43:49,519
Speaker 1: a lot of sports involved here, and that's how they

2078
01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:51,800
Speaker 1: keep this price down forty dollars a month, but you

2079
01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:54,720
Speaker 1: have to have Spectrum Internet. So they've got two new

2080
01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 1: streaming TV packages, Spectrum TV Stream and Spectrum Stream. Latino

2081
01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:03,720
Speaker 1: Stream is forty Latino twenty five dollars a month. You

2082
01:44:03,840 --> 01:44:07,720
Speaker 1: have to have Internet through Spectrum to get those. Wirecutter

2083
01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:11,800
Speaker 1: has some new reviews on document scanners, and I was

2084
01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:17,200
Speaker 1: impressed to see that Brother swept the review. So all

2085
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:21,200
Speaker 1: these little brother ads scanners are the apparently the best

2086
01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:24,600
Speaker 1: scanners out there. So if you're in the market for

2087
01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:27,640
Speaker 1: a scanner, check out Brother. They've got three models that

2088
01:44:27,680 --> 01:44:32,040
Speaker 1: were tops for the Wirecutter reviews. And if you're looking

2089
01:44:32,040 --> 01:44:34,519
Speaker 1: for a new pair of earbuds, I haven't fully tested them,

2090
01:44:34,520 --> 01:44:36,320
Speaker 1: but I did take my first run in them today.

2091
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:43,080
Speaker 1: The Nothing ear and ear A wireless earbuds.

2092
01:44:41,240 --> 01:44:42,320
Speaker 2: Really really good.

2093
01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:44,840
Speaker 1: Like I'm very, very impressed, and the price is pretty good,

2094
01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:47,800
Speaker 1: one hundred to one hundred and fifty dollars Nothing. I

2095
01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:51,400
Speaker 1: love this company. It's a funny name, but they do

2096
01:44:51,439 --> 01:44:53,840
Speaker 1: some really great stuff. I love their phone that they

2097
01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:57,040
Speaker 1: came out with, the Nothing phone this year. Nothing too.

2098
01:44:57,479 --> 01:45:00,600
Speaker 1: Now they've got earbuds. And when I put earbuds in

2099
01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:02,519
Speaker 1: my ears and they just sort of lock into my

2100
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:04,160
Speaker 1: ears and they don't feel like they're gonna fall out,

2101
01:45:04,200 --> 01:45:07,120
Speaker 1: and they sound good. That is a winner in my book.

2102
01:45:07,680 --> 01:45:11,840
Speaker 1: Let's get to feedback here. Thomas and Redwing says, I

2103
01:45:11,880 --> 01:45:15,479
Speaker 1: was listening to your radio show regarding driverless vehicles. They

2104
01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:19,360
Speaker 1: will replace mass transit Without the cost of drivers and

2105
01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:21,360
Speaker 1: lifts and ubers, the cost of a ride will be

2106
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:25,320
Speaker 1: considerably less than the cost of mass transit. Also, the

2107
01:45:25,360 --> 01:45:28,880
Speaker 1: convenience of door to door service ad ride sharing with

2108
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:31,839
Speaker 1: your ride, the cost will be even lower. Mass transit

2109
01:45:31,880 --> 01:45:35,519
Speaker 1: will be finished within the next thirty years. Interesting thought.

2110
01:45:36,439 --> 01:45:38,760
Speaker 1: Tom says, I'm not sure, but I think wearing one

2111
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:42,160
Speaker 1: of those limitless AI recorders in California will get you

2112
01:45:42,200 --> 01:45:45,479
Speaker 1: into trouble if you don't get consent from whoever else

2113
01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:48,280
Speaker 1: is being recorded. That's that pendant that you carry around

2114
01:45:48,280 --> 01:45:50,960
Speaker 1: your neck. It records everything and then becomes your own

2115
01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:55,160
Speaker 1: personal chat GBT. Tom says, do they pay the monthly

2116
01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:56,400
Speaker 1: fee for attorney's fees?

2117
01:45:56,439 --> 01:45:56,719
Speaker 2: Haha?

2118
01:45:57,200 --> 01:46:00,640
Speaker 1: Sort of kidding, Not really, there is I looked it up.

2119
01:46:00,680 --> 01:46:04,360
Speaker 1: There's a consent mode on the AI recorder, and I

2120
01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:06,840
Speaker 1: guess the first time it hears a new person's voice,

2121
01:46:06,920 --> 01:46:09,200
Speaker 1: it will say I need to hear their consent before

2122
01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:10,000
Speaker 1: I'll record them.

2123
01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2124
01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:13,559
Speaker 1: That sounds pretty wild. John says, I heard you talk

2125
01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:15,680
Speaker 1: about a clean install I don't need it now, but

2126
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:17,559
Speaker 1: I'd like to be knowledgeable for the future. I have

2127
01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:20,920
Speaker 1: three laptops with Windows. Can I clean install without being

2128
01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:24,200
Speaker 1: connected to the Internet, and do I have to reinstall applications?

2129
01:46:24,240 --> 01:46:24,559
Speaker 2: Thanks?

2130
01:46:24,640 --> 01:46:28,800
Speaker 1: John, I listen every Saturday on KFI. Yes, a clean

2131
01:46:28,840 --> 01:46:32,080
Speaker 1: install you will have to reinstall your applications. That's the

2132
01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:34,639
Speaker 1: whole point of the clean install that it doesn't keep

2133
01:46:34,680 --> 01:46:38,080
Speaker 1: anything on there. Can you do it without the Internet?

2134
01:46:38,240 --> 01:46:39,439
Speaker 2: Yes? I believe you can.

2135
01:46:39,560 --> 01:46:41,960
Speaker 1: I know that Windows really tries to push the Internet

2136
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:46,040
Speaker 1: connection when you're connecting and setting up, but you should

2137
01:46:46,040 --> 01:46:48,800
Speaker 1: be able to do it without the Internet. Michelle says, Hey, Rich,

2138
01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed to ask this question. I have several Gmail addresses.

2139
01:46:52,439 --> 01:46:54,639
Speaker 1: Do I need to purchase and own the domain name

2140
01:46:54,680 --> 01:46:57,040
Speaker 1: from the registrar company for the Gmail address?

2141
01:46:57,400 --> 01:46:57,879
Speaker 2: Example?

2142
01:46:57,960 --> 01:47:00,280
Speaker 1: Do you need to purchase an annually pay to new

2143
01:47:00,360 --> 01:47:04,360
Speaker 1: richdemuro dot com from a registrar company for Richdemuro at

2144
01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:09,000
Speaker 1: gmail dot com. Well, you're asking two different things that

2145
01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:12,479
Speaker 1: don't really go together. So an email address at gmail

2146
01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:14,880
Speaker 1: dot com you do not need to purchase any sort

2147
01:47:14,880 --> 01:47:17,479
Speaker 1: of anything. You can just you know, use that. But

2148
01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:19,760
Speaker 1: if you want your email address to be Rich at

2149
01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:23,080
Speaker 1: richdemuro dot com, which I do have, you would need

2150
01:47:23,120 --> 01:47:27,080
Speaker 1: to purchase the registration for that domain. Now to get email.

2151
01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:29,639
Speaker 1: You could use a service like cloud flare. They can

2152
01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:33,000
Speaker 1: forward that email from any email address to your other

2153
01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:36,600
Speaker 1: email or you can purchase an email address for that

2154
01:47:36,720 --> 01:47:40,280
Speaker 1: domain from your registrar company and use that as your

2155
01:47:40,360 --> 01:47:45,320
Speaker 1: email address. Jay from Temecula says, you've probably mentioned this

2156
01:47:45,360 --> 01:47:47,840
Speaker 1: a few times. What kind of Wi Fi extender would

2157
01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:51,599
Speaker 1: you recommend for home use? Very frustrating have to run

2158
01:47:51,640 --> 01:47:53,479
Speaker 1: through the house to get near the router to make

2159
01:47:53,560 --> 01:47:57,160
Speaker 1: or answer a call. The only extender I recommend is

2160
01:47:57,200 --> 01:48:02,880
Speaker 1: one from Tplink tp R twenty. It's like twenty bucks.

2161
01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:05,200
Speaker 1: I would try that first see if it works. Otherwise

2162
01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:08,400
Speaker 1: I would say get a Mesh Wi Fi network. Ero

2163
01:48:08,720 --> 01:48:11,880
Speaker 1: and Orby are the two companies I recommend. I like

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Speaker 1: them a lot, They work pretty well. People seem to

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Speaker 1: like them. The Mesh network's going to be a lot

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Speaker 1: better than an extender. Extender just takes a bad Internet

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Speaker 1: signal and just puts it even further. All Right, that's

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Speaker 1: going to do it for this episode of the show.

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Speaker 1: You can find links to everything I mentioned on my website.

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Speaker 1: Rich on Tech dot TV can find me on social media.

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Speaker 1: I am at rich on Tech next week. Oh I'm

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Speaker 1: doing something fun. We are going to test the Internet

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Speaker 1: on a major airline and it's really really fast. I

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Speaker 1: can't wait to bring you that finally fast Internet that's

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Speaker 1: useful on an airline. Thanks so much for listening. There

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Speaker 1: are so many ways you can spend your time. I

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Speaker 1: do appreciate you spending it right here with me. Thanks

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Speaker 1: to everyone who makes this show possible. Bobo, Kim Bill,

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Speaker 1: who else? My kids, my wife, I don't know. Jason, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jason gets the signal out there. We've got a lot

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Speaker 1: of people. My name is Richdimiro. I will talk to

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Speaker 1: you real soon.