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Speaker 1: What would you talk about on your on your podcast

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Speaker 1: first morning show. Here we go the fifteen minute Morning

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Speaker 1: Show Podcast. Hi everyone, Hello, Hello, there's Frogg, Either's Danielle,

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Speaker 1: there's Scary, there's Bondie, there's Scotty b and there's Straight

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Speaker 1: and Ate, and there's Garrett and our host for the

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Speaker 1: fifty minute morning show podcast in his uh paneled uh

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Speaker 1: paneled dead with electricity, I see, and the leather couch,

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Speaker 1: our host Dave Brody, tell you away, Dave Brodie, Wow, well,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate letting me know. About thirty seconds ago I

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Speaker 1: was hosting the show. So you already bitching and moaning, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: you know what I wanted to talk about something. Have

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Speaker 1: you ever been in a store or dealt with a company,

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Speaker 1: or had a job where someone in authority should not

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Speaker 1: have had that job and you wonder how they got

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Speaker 1: the job? All the time stage of places, when we're

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Speaker 1: getting kicked out all the time, I'm like, who told

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Speaker 1: you to kick me out? What? Yeah, you're working for

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Speaker 1: that show right now. Have any of you guys heard

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Speaker 1: of the Peter principle. No principle is the philosophy that

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Speaker 1: people get promoted until the level of incompetency reaches them.

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Speaker 1: So for instance, you're a good hostess at a at

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Speaker 1: a at Friday's, right, so they make your waitress, and

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Speaker 1: you're a good waitress, so they make your manager. But

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Speaker 1: you don't have the skills to be a manager. But

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Speaker 1: you are a really good waitress, so they promoted you.

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Speaker 1: So you keep getting promoted until you're incompetent and then

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Speaker 1: you get fired. What does it have to do with

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Speaker 1: the word Peter Because it was a scientist, and uh

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Speaker 1: at a psychologist. I thought maybe you'd mix it up

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Speaker 1: with Janet Jackson and the pleasure principle. But it's different.

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Speaker 1: So are you getting to a specific company that you

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Speaker 1: had to deal with where you've you've been exposed to

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Speaker 1: someone with the Peter principal? Probable? I often anytime you

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Speaker 1: go into a store. For instance, I was at the

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Speaker 1: store with the well, I can't even say what the

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Speaker 1: logo is, it was target okay, and I had to

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Speaker 1: deal with a manager, and the manager had no clue

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Speaker 1: how to be a manager. So it occurred to me

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Speaker 1: they were probably a really good cashier or really good

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Speaker 1: at the customer service desk, so they got promoted. But

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Speaker 1: the Peter principal, and you can look it up online,

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Speaker 1: would tell you that people continue to get promoted until

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Speaker 1: they're incompetent. For instance, in our business, if you're a

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Speaker 1: good morning show host or a good DJ, what happens

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Speaker 1: you might get promoted to music director or a program director.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean you know how to manage people. So

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Speaker 1: did you did you tell said target manager that he

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Speaker 1: was not qualified to be a manager? Uh? No, no

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Speaker 1: I didn't, um, but maybe the tone of my voice it.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, there's a there's a that's there's an actual

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Speaker 1: explanation for it. There's a there's that it happens in

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Speaker 1: every job where you continue to get promoted. So I

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Speaker 1: wonder if any time people know if they get promoted like,

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Speaker 1: oh if I take that job, I'm not gonna be

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Speaker 1: able to do it, and then you get fired. So

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Speaker 1: sometimes you should just keep the job you have. But

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Speaker 1: the Peter principle, if you look it up, talks about

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Speaker 1: how in every industry people get promoted until they're incompetent.

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Speaker 1: Have you guys dealt with anybody that you can't imagine

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Speaker 1: how they got promoted at every day? Yeah? No, you know, No,

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Speaker 1: I I do understand that I never knew there was

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Speaker 1: a name for it, but but yeah, absolutely. You know

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Speaker 1: there are people who are so great at being, like

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Speaker 1: and they're like, God, we don't want you to leave

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Speaker 1: because there's nowhere else for you to grow the management,

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Speaker 1: so we're moving to management, and then they fail at

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Speaker 1: it if I've always heard that calling failing up failing up?

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Speaker 1: Oh wow. Meanwhile, to be a manager, you probably need

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Speaker 1: some schooling and classes and things and a background in it,

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Speaker 1: and it's probably better for a company to have someone

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Speaker 1: fly in and take that job. But what that does

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Speaker 1: then it pisses everyone below that rank off because they

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Speaker 1: more qualified because they had the background for it. Well.

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Speaker 1: I know for a fact that I've been on the

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Speaker 1: I should not have been given that job. I was

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Speaker 1: not a good manager of people. That's why I don't

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Speaker 1: I hated being, you know, connected to a general manager

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Speaker 1: I'll fake it till I make it just to make

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Speaker 1: a higher paycheck. But there's a couple of fields where

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Speaker 1: you hope they don't do this, Like, for example, just

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Speaker 1: because you were a good flight attendant does not mean

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Speaker 1: are different departments. Maybe you did a really good job

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Speaker 1: did the same thing. I was an executive producer like

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Speaker 1: Natives for a long time actually until I came here

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Speaker 1: and I was offered an opportunity to interview for a

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Speaker 1: I was so excited because I was like, yeah, beach down,

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Speaker 1: now and you, Josh, Josh was awesome, but it wasn't

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Speaker 1: going to work out. Man. There are all the cool

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Speaker 1: those hard warms. Yeah, there are those heartwarming stories, though

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Speaker 1: it does happen. The thing I've realized though working your

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Speaker 1: is that every promotion you get, you just get more

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Speaker 1: bullshit with it. You know what I mean. It's just

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Speaker 1: in you Elvis too. You know, there's like the higher

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Speaker 1: don't you feel Sometimes they pretend they're giving you a promotion,

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Speaker 1: They're like, oh, we're gonna give you this new responsibility

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Speaker 1: same amount and they don't give you a rasor anything.

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Speaker 1: It's just the BS promotion. Scotty b is a great

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Speaker 1: example of this. Can we talk about it? Well? Can

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Speaker 1: I go even earlier than what you're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: real quick? When I was eighteen years old, I was

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Speaker 1: so he worked in the promotion department, marketing department. He's

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Speaker 1: worked for us, he worked for the morning show, and

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Speaker 1: and every time they've said, oh, you know what, Scotty,

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Speaker 1: enough troubled managing Danielle. He doesn't need to people exactly.

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Speaker 1: Only had a minute to come up with a fifteen

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Speaker 1: I get promoted now you don't want it and we've

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Speaker 1: learned that you don't on it. No, you know it's

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Speaker 1: million years? Would you give Scary promotion that? I do?

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Speaker 1: like anyone need help? What you doing? Needy help? And

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Speaker 1: It'll be the funny show we've ever had a boy.

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Speaker 1: How we doing frog? We have thirty seconds left? Thank you?

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