WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Steamroller

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals Booth Podcast. The will I'm a steamroll of Babe,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm bound to roll all over you. Addition, as the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals extend their current winning streak to five games and

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<v Speaker 1>finally beat the team that's given them fits over the

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<v Speaker 1>last five years, the Cleveland Browns. Coming up, you'll hear

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<v Speaker 1>radio replays, one on one locker room interviews and analysis

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<v Speaker 1>from a broadcast partner, Dave Lappo. Then, in this week's

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest thing since Mark Duffner's Locker Room cry. For

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<v Speaker 1>much of this year, NFL experts have warned us that

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<v Speaker 1>the second half of the season was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>tough for the Bengals because of their difficult schedule. So

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<v Speaker 1>a few weeks ago, at a team meeting the night

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<v Speaker 1>before a road game at Tennessee, Zach Taylor told his

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<v Speaker 1>players that it was their opponents that should be worried

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<v Speaker 1>because they have to play Cincinnati. After the Bengals beat

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<v Speaker 1>the Titans, that came up in the locker room celebration

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<v Speaker 1>ule a guy with a high pitched boys who yelled,

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<v Speaker 1>they've got to play us was sixty nine year old

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<v Speaker 1>assistant coach Mark Duffner, who's in his forty eighth year

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<v Speaker 1>in coaching. So last week, after the Bengals beat the Chiefs,

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Taylor requested a repeat performance by the coach universally

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<v Speaker 1>known as duff A heavyway battle right there. Okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys went toe to toe, he came out on top.

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<v Speaker 1>It took everybody in this locker room. What do we say, Dolf?

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<v Speaker 1>It has become the slogan for this year's team, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was the first thing brought up in the locker

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<v Speaker 1>room after Sunday's win over Cleveland. Dufner began his coaching

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<v Speaker 1>career as a graduate assistant at Ohio State under Woody Hayes.

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<v Speaker 1>On Thursday, I talked to him about becoming a social

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<v Speaker 1>media sensation all the credit ghost of the head coach,

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Taylor. Zach had that as a theme, uh the

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<v Speaker 1>night before we played Tennessee and uh so, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, after we won that ball game, everybody was

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<v Speaker 1>excited in the locker room and we you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>just carried that theme on a little bit. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>the the originator and the inventor, if you will, is

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Taylor. I just had to be a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a small piece of it. The first time it sounded

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<v Speaker 1>like you just kind of blurted it out naturally. The

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<v Speaker 1>second time it was a pond request. Yeah, that's exactly right,

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<v Speaker 1>he did, you know, he just said Duff And I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thought that was a cute maybe, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I've fired it out again. But no, he's uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've blurted it out just to kind of keep well.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody was excited, and so I was trying to add

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<v Speaker 1>to the excitement. The players seem to love it, Are

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<v Speaker 1>you aware? I'm not aware of that, but that's if

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<v Speaker 1>they do, then that's awesome. We appreciate that. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that this theme is appropriate for kind of what

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<v Speaker 1>this team has gone through in terms of everybody's worried

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<v Speaker 1>about how hard the schedule is going to be and

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<v Speaker 1>forgetting that this team was minutes away from winning a

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl? Yeah, I think, well, I think this. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the focus for sure is that we're playing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one game at a time, and you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to be ready for that. But this is a confident team.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a team that cares a lot about itself,

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<v Speaker 1>about each other, and about about the team, and so

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<v Speaker 1>that they're all, you know, I think, dialed into that,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're anxious to prove that we are a good

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<v Speaker 1>football team and we're trying to get better each and

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<v Speaker 1>every week. Do you want to give me one, not

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<v Speaker 1>at the top of your lungs, but at a regular volume.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got to play us. Now, let's get to the

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<v Speaker 1>highlights from Sunday's thirteen point win in the Battle of

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio first and ten. At the fifteen of Cleveland nine

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<v Speaker 1>fifty left in the second quarter, Burrow extends the hands,

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<v Speaker 1>catches a high snap from the pocket throws for the

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<v Speaker 1>end Chase hasn't touchdown Bengals has Chase does the gritty.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the back line of the end zone. M the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals score first. When I was a dark between two

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<v Speaker 1>defensive backs. Joe Burrow just threw a scene right between

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<v Speaker 1>Denzel Ward and the safety John Johnson. First and goal

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<v Speaker 1>at the six shotgun snap, Burrow hands it to p

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<v Speaker 1>Rhyan Samante Price to tackle head runs into the end zone.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to run by some much a p Ryan. He

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<v Speaker 1>was completely stacked up at the line of scrimmage. Somehow

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<v Speaker 1>escaped like he got out of a straight jacket and

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<v Speaker 1>read it into the end zone for the Bengals touchdown.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason why this guy stayed on their blocks nobody

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<v Speaker 1>could grab them. The offensive lineman sustained contact and that

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<v Speaker 1>smaj A p Rhyan is not gonna stop the engine.

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<v Speaker 1>First and ten at the Cleveland forty five yard line,

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<v Speaker 1>Burrow catches a high snap. Now it's a flea flicker.

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<v Speaker 1>God's gonna throw it too. He's got a man open

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<v Speaker 1>over the shoulder catch Trenton Irwin half the six touchdown

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<v Speaker 1>down eight Bengals to flee. Flicker executed to perfection. As

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<v Speaker 1>Burrow gave it to Mix and he flipped it back

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<v Speaker 1>to Joe and Joey Franchise launched it perfectly down the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the field for the touchdown strike to Trenton Irwin.

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<v Speaker 1>Watson fakes to Chubb screen pass caught by the Joku.

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<v Speaker 1>He's at the ten the five times for the pylon,

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<v Speaker 1>extends the ball in his right, huts and specks the

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<v Speaker 1>pylon for a TD Burrows under center. Irwin goes in

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<v Speaker 1>jet motion. They pitch in the opposite direction. Mixon running

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<v Speaker 1>to the thirty jobs forty down the sideline fifty the

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<v Speaker 1>Browns forty. Hen he gets toppled around the Cleveland thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five by safety John Johnson. A forty yard run for

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Mixon. Watson fakes looking to throw fires down field, intercepted,

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<v Speaker 1>it's picked off by Jesse Backs hen he goes out

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<v Speaker 1>of bounds at the forty two yard line. He will

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<v Speaker 1>run down to the opposite end zone for the pose

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<v Speaker 1>with his defensive teammates. It is fourth and four. This

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<v Speaker 1>could be their last chance. Down by thirteen. Nick Chubb

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<v Speaker 1>checks back in and running back Watson catches the shotgun

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<v Speaker 1>snap Pump fakes throws in the late hen that should

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<v Speaker 1>be coffin now Bam bam. Six fourth down opportunities the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals stopped on three. Each team has a takeaway, but

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<v Speaker 1>those are equivalent to turnovers. They have three fourth down stops,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a big reason they're up two scores. The

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three to ten win means that Joe Burrow can

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<v Speaker 1>cross another thing off of his checklist. When the AFC

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<v Speaker 1>North check go to the super Bowl check and finally

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<v Speaker 1>beat the Cleveland Browns check. Well, we're still wanting four

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<v Speaker 1>against him, so we still got some work to do.

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<v Speaker 1>But today was a good start. The win ended a

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<v Speaker 1>five game losing streak against Cleveland, and it came despite

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<v Speaker 1>the absence of three key offensive weapons. Hayden Hurst has

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<v Speaker 1>ruled out early in the week with a calf injury,

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<v Speaker 1>and Tee Higgins and Tyler Boyd were sidelined early on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>in Tea's case with a sore hamstring in boyd case

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<v Speaker 1>with a dislocated finger. Here's Zach Taylor, you know we

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<v Speaker 1>really lost Tea and warm ups. We lost TB on

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<v Speaker 1>the second play of the game offensively, and and guys

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<v Speaker 1>just stepped up, knew what to do. There had to

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<v Speaker 1>be a lot of modifications, but but we settled in

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<v Speaker 1>and found a way to move the ball. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>really because our defense allowed us to. You know, they

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<v Speaker 1>gave us the time by lemonton to points off the

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<v Speaker 1>board to let our offense find a way, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to take that lead there. So really just good team

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<v Speaker 1>effort finding a way to win. In December in a

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<v Speaker 1>Visional game, even though Higgins and Boyd were out, the

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<v Speaker 1>Browns couldn't cover Jamar Chase. Joe Burrow only completed eighteen passes,

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<v Speaker 1>and Chase caught more than half of them. He finished

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<v Speaker 1>with ten catches for one hundred nineteen yards and did

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<v Speaker 1>it by lining up all over the place. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>have a smart player, first of all, because if he's

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<v Speaker 1>able to handle he really played all three positions, really, X,

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<v Speaker 1>F and Z. Maybe he wasn't always called that, that's

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<v Speaker 1>where we'd put him. He's got all sorts of motions,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got a lot of things. He's going to remember

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<v Speaker 1>which side he's on, to remember what part of the

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<v Speaker 1>concept he's involved in. But that allows us to just

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<v Speaker 1>have so much freedom to move him around and find

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<v Speaker 1>ways to get him the ball. Because because of his

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<v Speaker 1>understanding of what we're trying to accomplish in his communication

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<v Speaker 1>with Joe. More from Zach Taylor in a bit. The

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<v Speaker 1>injury ravaged receiving cords, the Bengals leaned heavily on the

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<v Speaker 1>running game and finished with one hundred thirty six yards

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground After missing two games due to a concussion.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Mixon led the way and he talked to Dave

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<v Speaker 1>Lapham after the game. Joe fourteen carries ninety six yards

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<v Speaker 1>rushing on the day. One more carry to get that century,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Man, I mean that was a hell of a performance, yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>just really locking in and dialing into the game plan.

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<v Speaker 1>Pilot was, you know, dialing up the runs and Zach

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<v Speaker 1>and them guys on the perimeter, tight ends and even

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<v Speaker 1>a lineman running out there. Man, they did a hell

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<v Speaker 1>of a job blocking the day, and me and p

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan was personate enough to make plays behind him, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, me and him was breaking tackles and that

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<v Speaker 1>second uh, you know, the second contact, you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>was leading us to getting autumn yards. So he just

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<v Speaker 1>gotta keep on doing that, Joe, I thought, Okay, which

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<v Speaker 1>tandem is gonna gonna have the better day? Chubb and

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<v Speaker 1>Hunt and they had forty yards on a combined eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>carries a little over two yards to carry and you

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<v Speaker 1>and p Ryan had a combined one hundred and eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>on eighteen carriages. Case closed. You know, man, p Ryan,

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<v Speaker 1>they got a great tandem over there. But man, p Ryan,

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<v Speaker 1>we've been doing this for eight years now, bro, so

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<v Speaker 1>we know what we bring to the table. We know

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<v Speaker 1>we could be elite, the one two punch, of course.

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<v Speaker 1>So we just gonna keep on coming, coming to work,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, getting better, keep on pushing each other to

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<v Speaker 1>be the best, uh, to be the best player that

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<v Speaker 1>we know we could be. And we just gonna keep

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<v Speaker 1>on trying to get better. Man, keep on stacking these

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<v Speaker 1>wins because that's all that matter. And you know, made

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<v Speaker 1>the best come so without cursed without boy, without Higgins.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know that the running game even had to

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<v Speaker 1>take on the bigger burden of responsibility a little bit um?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we know that other guys, receivers and tight

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<v Speaker 1>ends can fill in as well, though. We got it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what That's one thing about our deep our offense. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>we got a lot of depth. And you know, fortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>fortunately enough, man, we got guys I could just fill

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<v Speaker 1>in and come in and actually contribute. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's one thing We've been fortunate enough, and we just

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<v Speaker 1>gotta keep on having people step up. We don't know

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<v Speaker 1>where had happened, you know what I'm saying. So he's

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<v Speaker 1>gotta keep on having them guys come in ready and

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<v Speaker 1>stepping up. And everybody's been able to do that. Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>Five in a row, seven out of Bate football teams

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<v Speaker 1>playing their best football the most opportunity time again. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>most definitely, man. I mean, we started that streak and

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta keep on building. I mean, it's a long

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<v Speaker 1>season and we know we know what the task at

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<v Speaker 1>hand is. We just gotta keep on getting better, keep

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<v Speaker 1>on building, keep on showing up to work optimistic on well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what the task is at him, Man, and

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<v Speaker 1>just keep keep on dialing into the game plan and

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<v Speaker 1>keep on moving forward, keep on stocking the wins, keep

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<v Speaker 1>going one and all. That's what it's all about. For sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely appreciate you. That's a lot. Defensively, the Bengals held

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Chubb to thirty four yards two weeks after they

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<v Speaker 1>held Derrick Henry to thirty eight. Teams simply can't run

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<v Speaker 1>against the Bengals when a healthy DJ Reader is on

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<v Speaker 1>the field. Man, we had a good job on defense.

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<v Speaker 1>We gave him that big runner early and guys kind

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<v Speaker 1>of looked in the mirror check themself, knew what we

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<v Speaker 1>need to do and settle down. And that's just what

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<v Speaker 1>team defense is. Man. We knew they were gonna run

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<v Speaker 1>the bar at least try and they weren't gonna stop

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<v Speaker 1>until we got some points on offense. So we had

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<v Speaker 1>to really go in there and really stop it. So

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<v Speaker 1>the guys they bought in. Man, just is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>so proud of the guys and the group of guys

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<v Speaker 1>I worked with every days. Happy to be a part

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<v Speaker 1>of this group. Logan Wilson had seventeen tackles in the game.

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<v Speaker 1>I think fourteen Solos. What you think of his performance? Man,

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<v Speaker 1>he was out there playing good ball, just running around,

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<v Speaker 1>flying around. It's a great game. You know. I trusted

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<v Speaker 1>him and Jermaine so much back there behind me. I

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<v Speaker 1>know if I could clean up some pitchers for him,

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<v Speaker 1>they gonna go in there like he's seeking missus Moga tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>So they did a great job with it. And Man, seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>you're out there moving. It's a lot of tackles. When

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<v Speaker 1>you've played this year, opponents or averaging about three point

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<v Speaker 1>six yards to carry. I believe in the games that

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<v Speaker 1>you've missed, it's like a one yard difference. Obviously, your

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<v Speaker 1>impact in defending the run is huge for this team up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they brought me here for. Man, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I take pride in it, and the guys around me

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<v Speaker 1>stay proud in it. So that's what I'm here for. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoy it. I didn't go there inside of the games,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what kind of run game it is, tone gap,

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<v Speaker 1>if you didn't get out the ball, run stretch, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is, I'm into. I just love those type of players.

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<v Speaker 1>Do whatever I can do healthy team game Balls went

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<v Speaker 1>to reader and fellow defensive tackle bj Hill for stuffing

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<v Speaker 1>to run, Logan Wilson for his seventeen tackles, Jesse Bates

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<v Speaker 1>for his interception, and rookie Cam Taylor Brett, who came

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<v Speaker 1>up with some key pass breakups in the fourth quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>Cam made his first NFL start in that loss to

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland on Halloween Night. You described earlier in the week

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<v Speaker 1>how facing Amari Cooper the first time around it's a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of an eye opener. In the NFL second time around,

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<v Speaker 1>it obviously went considerably better. Yes, sir, Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>man that first time, you know, I was getting my

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<v Speaker 1>feet with They had Cam early. I've played you know,

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<v Speaker 1>numerous of games. Now they're just staying a lot. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a copycat league, so you're gonna see a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the same stuff. And I knew, you know, what they

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<v Speaker 1>got me on the first game, So just wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>hold in on that and make sure, you know, while

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pressing other trying to get hands on uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just play top down really, so in the zones they

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<v Speaker 1>were catching little hitches and curls and stuff. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to play top down, no deep shots.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I'm a fourth down fade. That kind of clenched it.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you figure I'm the rookie, I'm lined up against Cooper.

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<v Speaker 1>It's coming my way. Look at the time on the club,

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<v Speaker 1>looked at the outside. You see a Mark Cooper, savvy

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<v Speaker 1>vet versus a rookie corner, and who wouldn't come to me?

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<v Speaker 1>So I wanted it, you know, I wanted to. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to get the pick. You know, I see it

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<v Speaker 1>really but you know I got the PVU and then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, uh, he just turned into the defender at

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<v Speaker 1>that point and just you know, trying to help come

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<v Speaker 1>and help my arm. I trying to catch it. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how I went. You guys should wear the tea

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<v Speaker 1>and then the tea and Tyler weren't playing, Yes, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>we found out out early man, so we knew it

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<v Speaker 1>was on this to you know, win this game. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a defensive game. We know that for sure, so

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<v Speaker 1>we had to be the better defense. You tackle Chubb

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<v Speaker 1>in space a couple of times. The team held him

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<v Speaker 1>to thirty four rushing yards in the game. How'd you

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<v Speaker 1>do it? You gotta put a hat on them. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna go down if you don't. We had the

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<v Speaker 1>game tacle, and you know, just tackle our way, Man

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<v Speaker 1>heavy hard with that running back, you have to finish

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<v Speaker 1>Man and Rapp and role. You got to bring a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people to the party to get him. The

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<v Speaker 1>DJ readers pressing in the middle. It seems like anytime

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<v Speaker 1>he's out in the field, the opponent is not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>run the ball. Most definitely, who you can't stop him.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see anybody stopping him. Man, Well, I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>glad that we got him back. He just look at

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<v Speaker 1>our d line, man, They're they're very physical and fast,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, especially on our outside, but in that middle,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see anybody to get through those gaps. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>DJ just moves him around, and you know it just

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<v Speaker 1>made plays. Man. We can't ask anything else for him. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>there's something too beating a team that had beaten you

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of times in the last couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you weren't here they beating you earlier in

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<v Speaker 1>the season. Is there a lifting factor to that when

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<v Speaker 1>you guys do eventually beat that team. Oh yeah, most

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<v Speaker 1>definitely was. And then how I look at it, You know,

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<v Speaker 1>from my perspective, I wasn't here the years before, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was here when we lost, you know, on Halloween,

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<v Speaker 1>and it feels great to me to get this win. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>that was my first start, you know, I finally got

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<v Speaker 1>to beat these guys, you know, and I'm playing to

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<v Speaker 1>do that, you know, while I'm here at this old time.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, once we play our ball, we allow him

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<v Speaker 1>feel we could be stopped. You mentioned that was your

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<v Speaker 1>first start. How much different do you feel from then

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<v Speaker 1>to now? A lot different? You can see it in

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<v Speaker 1>my game. I live just very comfortable out there, not

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a real jittery man, play on loose man,

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<v Speaker 1>having fun with the guys. Did you get the sense

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<v Speaker 1>from the guys who have been for three and four

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<v Speaker 1>years how nice it felt to beat a team that's

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<v Speaker 1>given them so much trouble? Yes? You can see it

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<v Speaker 1>in their eyes, man, you know, just a glisten when

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<v Speaker 1>they seen the cloud going down. It has been a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>I see, and I'm just glad out. I'm here to

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<v Speaker 1>be a part of it to help out. Congrats on

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<v Speaker 1>the win. Thank you. That's Cam Taylor Brett. The Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>and four and tied for first in the AFC North.

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<v Speaker 1>He spent a few minutes with Lap after the game.

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<v Speaker 1>It was easy to be flustered in pregame and early

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<v Speaker 1>in the game losing two starting receivers. But the sense

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<v Speaker 1>of calm because you know you've got great coaching staff

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to get those players right. And we have

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<v Speaker 1>really smart players and that's why they're here on the roster,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're able to adjust and adapt, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they made the most of their opportunities. Hurst was down

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<v Speaker 1>obviously before the game started. But te Higgins had a

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<v Speaker 1>hamstring that was bothering him during the week and obviously

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<v Speaker 1>it flared up very early in that football game, and

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler Boyd looked like it was a finger injury. Is

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<v Speaker 1>there any further information to give us on Tyler's injury.

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<v Speaker 1>We thought he dislocated his finger, and we'll find out

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<v Speaker 1>more information. Yeah, So sometimes with dislocations that can be

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<v Speaker 1>breaks and all that kind of stuff. You got to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure about about all that. But you're down all

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<v Speaker 1>those weapons, what were you thinking. I mean, when you

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<v Speaker 1>guys were talking about how to proceed, you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're communicating with all your coaches on the sideline offensively,

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<v Speaker 1>what were those conversations like problem solving them? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>And it is you know, in the past game started

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<v Speaker 1>with with Brian Pitch and Troy Walters making sure we

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<v Speaker 1>had the right pieces in place. James Casey had dealt

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<v Speaker 1>with that all week, with dealing with two tight ends.

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Hill has done a great job three four running

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<v Speaker 1>backs at a time, you know, and obviously Frank and

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Fraser getting those guys up front going. So again,

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<v Speaker 1>we just got such a great coaching staff that puts

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<v Speaker 1>these guys in the right spot. That brings a sense

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<v Speaker 1>of calm for me to be able to call the plays.

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<v Speaker 1>No one that guys are going to know what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>So your defense has to step up in that situation,

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<v Speaker 1>and they did obviously. Joe Mixon rushed for ninety six

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<v Speaker 1>yards on fourteen carries during the course of the football game,

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<v Speaker 1>the exact same number of carries for Chubb fourteen carries,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty four yards. You really controlled Chubb and Hunt. Hunt

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<v Speaker 1>had six yards on four carries, so eighteen carries forty

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<v Speaker 1>yards out of those running backs to help a job

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<v Speaker 1>by your defense. Yeah, that's that's a recipe for success

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<v Speaker 1>right there. And again it allowed us to get our

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<v Speaker 1>feet under eight tests on offense because the defense was

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<v Speaker 1>keeping points off the board, making them go the length

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<v Speaker 1>of the field, not giving up the supposed to plays,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was a key reason why we won the

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<v Speaker 1>game today. You were very persistent staying with that running game.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe busted one for forty that looked like it might

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<v Speaker 1>have a chance to chance to go. How did your

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line handle things up front today? Have another pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good day overall first glance, they did a nice job. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>they're putting more hats in there than sometimes you can

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<v Speaker 1>account for. And we knew losing two receivers. We were

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna have to live with that and find ways

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<v Speaker 1>to find the explosives on flee flickers and such and

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<v Speaker 1>also grind out some runs, knowing that if you can

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<v Speaker 1>just stick with it and have the lead, that at

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<v Speaker 1>some point something's going to break. And that's what happened

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<v Speaker 1>with the Joe Mixon run. So when did you start

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about the flee flicker? Give me take me through

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<v Speaker 1>the evolution of the flee flicker and the final decision

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<v Speaker 1>to call that bad boy. Well, I mean that's something

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's been up for us several games this year

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<v Speaker 1>and just felt right, the right moments call it. We

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<v Speaker 1>need to be on the correct hash, and so it

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<v Speaker 1>just everything played into our hand. They had some substitutions

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<v Speaker 1>with their defensive ends that we're out, which is always

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<v Speaker 1>helpful on a long play like that, and it just

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<v Speaker 1>so happened we got the right coverage and hit it

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<v Speaker 1>man and then your defense, your defensive line. DJ Reader

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<v Speaker 1>is a full grown and and DJ played so well.

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<v Speaker 1>Logan Wilson had a zillion tackles. I mean, it was

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<v Speaker 1>unbelievable to watch what was going on up front. It

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<v Speaker 1>was awesome, you know. And in credits to DJ Reader,

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<v Speaker 1>he shows up every day coming to work, whether he's

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<v Speaker 1>banged up, feeling great, same guy every day leading charge there.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why he's voted to captain. And he helps those

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<v Speaker 1>around him play really well too. Nine and four and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't want to go back, but I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>nine more points, coach, he's thirteen and one. Man are

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<v Speaker 1>doing twelve and one. You're twelve and one because you're

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<v Speaker 1>nine and four. We learned from our losses, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that we'd be the same team had we

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<v Speaker 1>not lost some of those early games. And of course

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<v Speaker 1>you'd love them, so you could have already won all

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<v Speaker 1>the things that come with that. But sometimes it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>necessary evil we try to win every game. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to lose, but we certainly learned a lot from

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<v Speaker 1>those early season losses that have helped us be the

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<v Speaker 1>team that we are today. And finally, this game up

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<v Speaker 1>and when you played them up in Cleveland, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a you know, cold water in the face. It was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what it was seemed to be a wake

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<v Speaker 1>up call, and everybody responded the way. I'm sure you've hooked.

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<v Speaker 1>You've won five in a row since five and a

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<v Speaker 1>row up and out of eight, what is it? Nine

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<v Speaker 1>out of eleven now, I mean, it's crazy. You're on

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<v Speaker 1>a nice run. It's a confident team that's playing with

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<v Speaker 1>right edge and preparing with the right edge, and I

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<v Speaker 1>believe that we won't lose. That our guys are focused

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<v Speaker 1>on how to do things the right way, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be ready to go on the road next week against Tampa.

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals remain tied for first with Baltimore, as the Ravens

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<v Speaker 1>managed to win in Pittsburgh sixteen fourteen despite having their

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<v Speaker 1>third string quarterback on the field for most of the

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<v Speaker 1>second half. Lamar Jackson missed the game of a knee

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<v Speaker 1>injury and Tyler Huntley suffered a concussion, meaning the Ravens

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<v Speaker 1>had to turn to undrafted rookie Anthony Brown. It will

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<v Speaker 1>be interesting to see who plays quarterback for Baltimore next

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<v Speaker 1>week at Cleveland. Now time for the radio guys recap.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals are off the schneide. Their five game losing

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<v Speaker 1>streak head to head against the Cleveland Browns is over

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<v Speaker 1>in convincing fashion, twenty three to ten. Where should we begin.

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<v Speaker 1>How about the running games? Cincinnati one thirty six yards

0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:04.480
<v Speaker 1>on the ground, Cleveland seventy one. I wonder how many

0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:07.040
<v Speaker 1>times the Browns have essentially been doubled up in the

0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:10.520
<v Speaker 1>running game and the Kevin Stefanski era. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the first game. Cleveland ran the ball forty

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<v Speaker 1>four times. The Bengals ran at ten. I mean, in

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<v Speaker 1>this football game, the exact same number of carries. Chubb

0:23:19.800 --> 0:23:23.920
<v Speaker 1>fourteen carries, thirty four yards. He had a thirteen yard

0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:26.159
<v Speaker 1>rush and a seven yard rush, So on two of

0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:28.640
<v Speaker 1>his carries he had twenty of the yards. The other

0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:34.320
<v Speaker 1>twelve carries fourteen yards. What that's unbelievable. DJ Reader, full

0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:40.000
<v Speaker 1>grown man, unbelievable. What he does, makes plays himself. I

0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:42.800
<v Speaker 1>mean he'll make tackles, but to keep people off of

0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:46.080
<v Speaker 1>his teammates and linebackers like he does. I mean, Logan

0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Wilson had a day at halftime, he ends up with

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen unassisted tackles, seventeen total tackles on the day. Amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just that's unbelievable. And it's all about DJ Reader

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<v Speaker 1>two pow. I mean, not having those guys in that

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<v Speaker 1>game proved to be a big, big difference obviously, and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, I thought that was a huge difference in

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<v Speaker 1>the football game. And I mean Deshaun Watson, he does

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<v Speaker 1>add a little quarterback run package that's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>I think, a very tough thing to defend, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>complimenting a supplementing job. But the Bengals had the answers

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<v Speaker 1>today and it was just an unbelievable defensive performance because

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at all the starter, all the skill

0:24:27.880 --> 0:24:31.000
<v Speaker 1>guys going down Dan defensively, they knew we have to

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<v Speaker 1>step up. I mean, our offense is in a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of trouble here, and in the early stages it

0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:39.320
<v Speaker 1>was you know, stuttering, sputtering along, and defense carried the day.

0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Tee Higgins dealt with a sore hamstring on Thursday and

0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Friday wounded up playing one snap. I believe Tyler Boyd

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<v Speaker 1>got hurt on the second offensive play. So you alluded

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Two of your best pass catchers weapons in

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive game weren't available. They managed to score three

0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:58.440
<v Speaker 1>touchdowns against a pretty good defense, no, no question. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I thought that other guys stepped up and

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<v Speaker 1>made plays just like they have, you know, all season long.

0:25:05.560 --> 0:25:09.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the flea flicker was called at just the

0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:12.400
<v Speaker 1>most opportune time that it could have been called. I mean,

0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Trent Norwin has a forty five yard reception where he's

0:25:15.200 --> 0:25:17.639
<v Speaker 1>opened by ten yards and he said that he can't

0:25:17.680 --> 0:25:20.600
<v Speaker 1>remember being that open at any level of football. Just

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<v Speaker 1>a tremendous, tremendous call. Because they were bringing people to

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<v Speaker 1>stop the run. They were bringing eleven guys and the

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<v Speaker 1>safeties were hitting. I mean, there's no question about that.

0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:33.879
<v Speaker 1>And Trent Norwyn said, you know, he and Johnson had

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<v Speaker 1>had a few collisions. He knew when they called it.

0:25:37.840 --> 0:25:40.159
<v Speaker 1>When he came flying down like he did, all he

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<v Speaker 1>had to do was bluff that block and was off

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<v Speaker 1>to the races, and that's exactly what took place. Deshaun

0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:48.240
<v Speaker 1>Watson a lot better in Game two than he was

0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:50.280
<v Speaker 1>in Game one. He threw for two hundred and seventy

0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:53.000
<v Speaker 1>six yards a touchdown, one pack passer rating of seventy

0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:56.240
<v Speaker 1>nine point one. Should the rest of the AFC North

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<v Speaker 1>be worried about Deshaun Watson eventually? Yeah, I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>think his skill set is, you know, kind of jumps

0:26:03.800 --> 0:26:06.879
<v Speaker 1>off the you know, the field at He's he's a

0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:09.680
<v Speaker 1>gifted guy. But um, like we were talking about during

0:26:09.720 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 1>the game, loui Ana Rumo has been masterful at confusing

0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:16.600
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks that have played at a pretty high level for

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, not just this year, but I mean

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred days, he hadn't played a game. They played

0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:24.119
<v Speaker 1>a lot of games in seven hundred days, and lou

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<v Speaker 1>Louiana Rumo had them confounded a little bit. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure the shot Watson was like on the pressure packages

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:33.199
<v Speaker 1>the coverages was like, WHOA, what's going on here? What

0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:35.560
<v Speaker 1>am I looking at um so. I do think that

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<v Speaker 1>lou and Rumo continues to be a factor, and his

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<v Speaker 1>players are definitely responded to. I mean, they're they're believing

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<v Speaker 1>in everything that he's saying. They're buying what he's selling,

0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:47.480
<v Speaker 1>let's put it that way. And he's selling a lot

0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 1>and they're buying a lot. Man, They've got an unlimited budget.

0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:55.879
<v Speaker 1>The players, they are just um. The amount of inventory

0:26:55.960 --> 0:26:59.159
<v Speaker 1>that they have to draw from pressures and coverages and

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:02.119
<v Speaker 1>everything else is pretty pretty staggering. And to have guys

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<v Speaker 1>and have the confidence not one of them is going

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<v Speaker 1>to make a mistake is very, very impressive. We said.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things the Bengals had to do to

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<v Speaker 1>end this streak of five straight losses to Cleveland, don't

0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:14.600
<v Speaker 1>beat yourself. Don't have a bunch of giveaways. They only

0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:18.240
<v Speaker 1>had one giveaway on a deflected pass that was intercepted.

0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Don't have a bunch of penalties. Well, that was very

0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:24.160
<v Speaker 1>much in their favor. Nine penalties ninety eight yards for Cleveland,

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:27.080
<v Speaker 1>four penalties thirty six yards for Cincinnati, and on the

0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Bengals first touchdown drive after they had sputtered coming out

0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:33.040
<v Speaker 1>of the gate on their first three diet drives. They

0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:36.840
<v Speaker 1>were gifted four penalties fifty eight yards, including a roughing

0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:39.040
<v Speaker 1>the punter that kept the drive alive, a thirty three

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:42.119
<v Speaker 1>yard pass interference penalty that helped the Bengals get the

0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 1>ball rolling. And once they had the league, you never

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 1>really had the feeling that they were going to give

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<v Speaker 1>it up. Yeah, I agreed, Dan, I mean, they had

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<v Speaker 1>total control of the football game, and the self destruction

0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:55.879
<v Speaker 1>was significant, not by turnover like you said, just one,

0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:59.240
<v Speaker 1>but hoball on four down to the Bengals. Cleveland's three

0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:02.080
<v Speaker 1>for six on fourth down. So those three stops on

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:04.240
<v Speaker 1>fourth down or equivalent to turnovers, it's like, you know,

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:07.760
<v Speaker 1>a fumble that you don't there's no yardage shift or anything,

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:11.600
<v Speaker 1>but you lose possession on the football. Three times the

0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Cleveland Browns ended up possession without a kick, without a punt,

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:18.160
<v Speaker 1>extra pointer, field goal. That's huge. So in my mind,

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:20.560
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals were plus three in that football game in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of, you know, the one takeaway and then the

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<v Speaker 1>three fourth down stops the Bengals they weren't involved in

0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:28.120
<v Speaker 1>any fourth down action that way, they had the one giveaway.

0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:31.199
<v Speaker 1>And the other thing was in the first game Cleveland

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<v Speaker 1>went four for five in the red zone five trips,

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<v Speaker 1>four touchdowns today one for three, major difference. The Bengals

0:28:37.680 --> 0:28:40.440
<v Speaker 1>went two for three, got their three times scored twice,

0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 1>and they were one for one in the low red

0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:46.360
<v Speaker 1>zone and the gold situation, Cleveland was over in that

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 1>goal to goost situation. That was one of the fourth

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:52.000
<v Speaker 1>down stops. So, I mean, that's impressive. I thought that,

0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, this game was going to come down to

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<v Speaker 1>again who was more physical at the line of scrimmage

0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 1>in particular, and I thought the Bengals won the let

0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:02.240
<v Speaker 1>the line of scrimmage again, I really do. I thought

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:06.800
<v Speaker 1>they controlled things up front and it's it's impressive to

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<v Speaker 1>watch it. And the Bengals, you know, they did have

0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a boy I got to navigate

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:15.400
<v Speaker 1>this ship back on course when you know, some key

0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:18.440
<v Speaker 1>players go down. Tyler Boyd. I asked Zach in the

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<v Speaker 1>post game the extent of the injury, and he said

0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 1>that there was a dislocation, but they, you know, want

0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:25.959
<v Speaker 1>to make sure there's nothing more than that. And you know,

0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:31.600
<v Speaker 1>obviously as a receiver that's a real problem. So I

0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:35.200
<v Speaker 1>wonder how much time, if any, he's gonna miss I mean,

0:29:35.320 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 1>if they get it put back in place and there's

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:40.640
<v Speaker 1>no fracture. But if there's some soft tissue damage, you know,

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 1>what do you do? Do you splint them together? There's

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 1>there's ways to go ahead and go out there and playing.

0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 1>He's a tough guy. I think he's probably gonna try

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:51.040
<v Speaker 1>to play if he possibly can, particularly with the football

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:54.720
<v Speaker 1>teams playing five straight wins, seven out of eight, you know,

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 1>nine out of eleven, they're on a run. There's no question.

0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Do you have a theory for me on what Kevin

0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Stefanski was thinking on the opening drive. They marched down

0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 1>the field eight plays, fifty one yards. It's fourth and

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:09.000
<v Speaker 1>one at the Bengals twenty five. They decide to go

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:12.160
<v Speaker 1>for it. They take to Shaun Watson out, they put

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:15.720
<v Speaker 1>Jacoby Brissette in. He's under center. I'm thinking, well, maybe

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:18.160
<v Speaker 1>they think he's better at the quarterback sneak or something

0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:20.240
<v Speaker 1>like that. He drops back and throws it into the

0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:23.800
<v Speaker 1>end zone incomplete, his only play of the day. What

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:26.320
<v Speaker 1>on godscreen earth were they doing? I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I really don't. I mean I cannot. That one is

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<v Speaker 1>mind boggling. I'm thinking, well, maybe he's that much better

0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:34.760
<v Speaker 1>in the hard count than Watson is. I'm thinking, maybe

0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:36.880
<v Speaker 1>he's going to try to draw him, you know, and

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:40.239
<v Speaker 1>it's like, all right, well, maybe the fact that he's

0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 1>substituting a quarterback. Oh there's a special play that might

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:45.680
<v Speaker 1>get them amped up even more to jump offside. But

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:49.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, they held their water well, and I'm thinking,

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, why take a guy that quarterback sneak? He's

0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:56.760
<v Speaker 1>better at quarterback run game, He's better at you know,

0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:58.960
<v Speaker 1>you go to the perimeter with a two way go

0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 1>with chubbing Watson. I mean, you know, there's there's so

0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 1>many other things you can think of that they might

0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:08.320
<v Speaker 1>try to do on that fourth down play. Um, maybe

0:31:08.320 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 1>even you know, some sort of a gadget play that

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 1>they had in their playbook somewhere on the game plan.

0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 1>But to just just to run a street drop back

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:18.400
<v Speaker 1>and heave it to the corner of the end zone.

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Wow, I don't that that one is

0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 1>mind bagging. I'm gonna be very interested here what Stefanski

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 1>has to say on that explanation, because that one, that

0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:30.720
<v Speaker 1>one was crazy. I'm thinking, first question in the Cleveland

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 1>postgame news conference, I agree wholeheartedly. There's no doubt. You know,

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:37.200
<v Speaker 1>my first thought was maybe they were going wildcat and

0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:40.920
<v Speaker 1>they just hadn't repped it with Watson, and obviously they didn't,

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:42.600
<v Speaker 1>but that was the first thing that came to mind

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 1>for me. Yeah, I mean that that's another another potential out.

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 1>But then you would think, you know, they'd have hunt

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 1>in chub in there, you know, both of their backs,

0:31:50.760 --> 0:31:53.040
<v Speaker 1>and if you're wildcat, and because now you have got

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 1>their quarterbacks out there, he's a waste, you know, he's

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:57.600
<v Speaker 1>just out there doing nothing, and they didn't do I mean,

0:31:57.640 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 1>it was weird just the way though. He just run

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 1>in the quarterbacks on and off the field, no other substitutions, Like,

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 1>what the hell? Crazy? All Right, So next week it's

0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 1>off to Tampa, probably the last warm weather game until

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:12.520
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals go to Arizona for the Super Bowl, he says, hopefully,

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 1>but probably realistically and honestly, the one and only time

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:22.240
<v Speaker 1>that Joe Burrow and Tom Brady will go ahead to head. Yeah.

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 1>And I think there's so many similarities between those two guys,

0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 1>I really do. I mean, not the way they came

0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 1>into league. Obviously, you know, one came in as a

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:32.000
<v Speaker 1>sixth round pick, the other one came in as a

0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Heisman Trophy, first pick of the draft kind of guy.

0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 1>But but the way they approached the game, what the

0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:43.120
<v Speaker 1>game means to him, their protocol of preparation, it's, uh,

0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:46.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's second to none. And I think there

0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 1>were more similarities to than than differences in what they

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:54.880
<v Speaker 1>think about the game, how they think about the game,

0:32:55.720 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 1>how they play the game. There's just a lot of things. Obviously,

0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Joe's much more mobile than Tom. Tom is just he's

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:07.920
<v Speaker 1>from Jump Street, pocket quarterback. Only we saw again today.

0:33:07.960 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, Joe Burrow can hurt you with his feet

0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:13.120
<v Speaker 1>and legs, there's no doubt. And I thought a big

0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:17.000
<v Speaker 1>factor in the game today was going to be who

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 1>when the first play is taken away, how do you

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:23.640
<v Speaker 1>create an extend on additional plays? Joe Barrow had an

0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 1>eight yard run on a scramble. He kept plays alive,

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:32.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, manipulating the pocket. So Tom Brady's not going

0:33:32.400 --> 0:33:35.480
<v Speaker 1>to do that stuff. Tom Brady is as good as

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 1>there is ever though, in getting the ball out of

0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:40.160
<v Speaker 1>his hand right now. I mean, he's an offensive lineman's

0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:43.000
<v Speaker 1>best friend. It's like two point three five, you know,

0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:45.240
<v Speaker 1>and it's out. I mean you can almost whiff and

0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 1>get beaten, and he's going to have the ball out

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 1>at those kind of numbers, and Joe's very similar to that.

0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 1>Joe gets the ball out, but if he doesn't like it,

0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:55.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, he can, you know, go to a second

0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:57.920
<v Speaker 1>play and create a second play. Tom doesn't do that,

0:33:58.000 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 1>but nobody reads the field better than Tom Brady. Joe

0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:05.840
<v Speaker 1>burrows right there though, and then makes a quick decision

0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:10.719
<v Speaker 1>based on assimilating that information so rapidly, and it's nine

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:14.680
<v Speaker 1>point nine percent of the time the right decision. It's

0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:17.719
<v Speaker 1>it's incredible to watch those two guys just see the

0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:23.000
<v Speaker 1>field deliver. It's amazing. The AFC North is three and

0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:26.879
<v Speaker 1>oz against Tom Brady. This year, Steelers, Ravens, Browns all

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:29.239
<v Speaker 1>beat Tampa Bay. We'll see if the Bengals can make

0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:34.040
<v Speaker 1>it four for four sweep. How about a divisional sweep?

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:38.279
<v Speaker 1>That would be big Man Tom Brady at forty nine

0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:40.480
<v Speaker 1>ers on the road and then the Bengals come down

0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:43.719
<v Speaker 1>to Tampa Bay Man and that, you know, it looked

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 1>like they're gonna be a you know, a slam dunk

0:34:46.560 --> 0:34:50.280
<v Speaker 1>playoff team. Now it's going to be very interesting depending

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 1>on what happens in San Francisco here later today, is

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 1>he playing for a playoff opportunity? I mean, will this

0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 1>be a must win situation for Tom Brady. That's a

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:03.360
<v Speaker 1>tough opponent when you're in a must win situation. And

0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:06.320
<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow reminds me of Tom Brady two in the

0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:09.800
<v Speaker 1>fact that when the game's on the line, fourth quarter,

0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:15.760
<v Speaker 1>he's like otherworldly. Brady has been that way his whole career.

0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:19.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Brady's got what forty four come from behind victories.

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:22.120
<v Speaker 1>I think it is ridiculous. Joe Burrow can do that

0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:23.279
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing. I don't know if he's going to

0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:25.800
<v Speaker 1>play a thousand years like Brady, but I mean he

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:29.920
<v Speaker 1>can do the same thing. The great ones play their

0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:33.200
<v Speaker 1>best at the most important times, the most necessary times

0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 1>to play their best. They realize it and step up

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:38.200
<v Speaker 1>and do it, and they do it at a high

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:39.920
<v Speaker 1>percentage of the time. And these two are two of

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:42.919
<v Speaker 1>the best ever doing it. Tampa Bay's game in San

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:46.799
<v Speaker 1>Francisco turned out to be a disaster. The bus got

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:50.120
<v Speaker 1>blown out thirty five to seven. Is Tom Brady threw

0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:53.360
<v Speaker 1>a pair of interceptions. Tampa Bay is six and seven

0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:57.280
<v Speaker 1>and yet still in first place in the NFC South,

0:35:57.760 --> 0:36:01.960
<v Speaker 1>one game ahead of Carolina ended Atlanta. The Bengals open

0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:06.279
<v Speaker 1>as a three point favorite for next Sunday. Finally, time

0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:08.839
<v Speaker 1>for this week's fun Facts interview, where we get to

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:13.279
<v Speaker 1>know the person under the pads. Time for some fun

0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 1>facts with Joe Bacchi from brook Park, Ohio, a little

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:20.799
<v Speaker 1>bit south of Cleveland. Your dad, Joe Senior, was a

0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:24.239
<v Speaker 1>concrete worker and a football coach, and he says that

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:27.480
<v Speaker 1>he brainwashed you from an early age. What did you

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:29.759
<v Speaker 1>learn from your dad? My dad saw me a lot

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:31.799
<v Speaker 1>in my life, him and my mom and my dad.

0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:35.200
<v Speaker 1>He always pushed toughness, you know, mental toughness well as

0:36:35.239 --> 0:36:37.640
<v Speaker 1>physical toughness, and kind of everything you do. We're a

0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:41.080
<v Speaker 1>real blue collar family, kind of that whole hometown brook

0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Park areas like that. And I think that's kind of

0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:45.439
<v Speaker 1>how I play my game, and that's how I've tried

0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:47.840
<v Speaker 1>to you know, my work ethic and how I approached

0:36:47.840 --> 0:36:50.720
<v Speaker 1>a lot of things. It's just you know, your mental

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 1>toughness and just coming up with that blue collar mindset

0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:55.040
<v Speaker 1>every day. It sounds like he coached you in just

0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 1>about everything. And it also sounds like he wasn't the

0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:00.439
<v Speaker 1>type of guy that if you struck out three times,

0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:01.960
<v Speaker 1>it was going to pat you on the back and say,

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 1>that's okay, son, Yeah that I never really got the

0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:06.719
<v Speaker 1>pad on the back, that's okay. I'll tell you that.

0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:09.120
<v Speaker 1>He was definitely always a little harder. I mean, he

0:37:09.160 --> 0:37:12.960
<v Speaker 1>was my coach in basketball, baseball, football from I would

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 1>say six seven eight years old all the way through

0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:18.080
<v Speaker 1>high school. He was always my coach. And by the

0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:20.480
<v Speaker 1>time high school was ending, I was probably ready for

0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:22.440
<v Speaker 1>it to be over with him being my coach. But

0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:25.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, I wouldn't change anything about it, for sure.

0:37:26.440 --> 0:37:28.680
<v Speaker 1>So I read that as a junior in high school,

0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:31.359
<v Speaker 1>you're playing linebacker and tight end and there's a game

0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:33.640
<v Speaker 1>where the starting running back gets hurt in the pregame

0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:36.239
<v Speaker 1>warm ups, so they throw you in there at running back.

0:37:36.280 --> 0:37:39.200
<v Speaker 1>You didn't even really know the plays, right, I can

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 1>remember it. We get we actually was right on the bus.

0:37:41.640 --> 0:37:43.000
<v Speaker 1>He goes, hey, I don't think our running back and

0:37:43.120 --> 0:37:45.279
<v Speaker 1>go today, And I said, and I used to play

0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:47.040
<v Speaker 1>it all the time, and I enjoyed playing running back

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:48.319
<v Speaker 1>for sure, and he just goes, all right, we just

0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:50.719
<v Speaker 1>got no inside zone, right, we got no power, we

0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:52.359
<v Speaker 1>got a no counter. I'm like, all right, that'll work.

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that was definitely a fun game. It was

0:37:54.560 --> 0:37:57.000
<v Speaker 1>a muddy game, and you know, the six touchdown game.

0:37:57.080 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 1>It felt good for sure, playing a little running back again.

0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Five touchdown runs, one touchdown reception not bad, yep, I'll

0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:05.080
<v Speaker 1>take it. I was. Yeah, I was kind of all

0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:06.680
<v Speaker 1>over the place and offense back in high school. I

0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:08.200
<v Speaker 1>thought I was an offensive guy. I always did. I

0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:11.040
<v Speaker 1>never never really wanted to continue to play defense. But

0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:13.920
<v Speaker 1>the smart decision was the transition to that linebacker and

0:38:13.960 --> 0:38:17.359
<v Speaker 1>play linebacker for visiting with Joe Bacchi. So where you

0:38:17.400 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 1>grew up near Cleveland is Ohio state country. Sounds like

0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:23.360
<v Speaker 1>you would have loved to have been a Buckeye. It

0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:27.279
<v Speaker 1>didn't work out that way. How disappointing was that? Uh?

0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:30.239
<v Speaker 1>It was? It was definitely disappointing for sure. Um, I

0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:33.719
<v Speaker 1>loved everything about Michigan State, don't get me wrong at all.

0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:36.520
<v Speaker 1>I m We went down for a junior day. You know,

0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:38.000
<v Speaker 1>I knew a couple of guys down. There was me

0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:40.080
<v Speaker 1>and my mom, my dad, and I think we drove

0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:42.040
<v Speaker 1>two hours down, probably only stayed for about an hour

0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:44.840
<v Speaker 1>and a half, turned around, drove two hours back. You know,

0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:46.880
<v Speaker 1>once you know, they kind of had their mind made up.

0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:48.960
<v Speaker 1>They're going in a different direction, and you know, I

0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:51.279
<v Speaker 1>got that message. It was, you know, it was time

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:53.640
<v Speaker 1>to move on. And once that happened, uh, you know,

0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:56.040
<v Speaker 1>that was definitely motivation moving forward for the next four

0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:59.000
<v Speaker 1>or five years and into college. And like I said,

0:38:59.040 --> 0:39:01.120
<v Speaker 1>I love Michigan State though. That was a perfect spot

0:39:01.160 --> 0:39:03.400
<v Speaker 1>for me. Just a hard nose old school coach d

0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Antonio ken manny how they run everything there when I

0:39:06.280 --> 0:39:08.680
<v Speaker 1>was there, it was a perfect program for me. You

0:39:08.760 --> 0:39:11.200
<v Speaker 1>had a great career, you were a two time captain.

0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Folks around here no and love Mark D'Antonio from his

0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:16.480
<v Speaker 1>time at the University of Cincinnati. What was the highlight

0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:19.120
<v Speaker 1>of your Michigan State experience. I know this is kind

0:39:19.160 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 1>of cliche, but I think it was just the guys,

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Like I had no complaints about any of my friends,

0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:26.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, and it made go into the buildings so

0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 1>much fun every day and we enjoyed it. And that's

0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:30.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of what I get with this team a little bit.

0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:31.880
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of the guys are just you know,

0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:34.960
<v Speaker 1>we're all friends, like we like to We enjoy being

0:39:35.000 --> 0:39:37.560
<v Speaker 1>around each other, and that's what really makes football fun.

0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:39.799
<v Speaker 1>And you know, in Michigan State, it was every day

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:41.439
<v Speaker 1>with me and my roommates were out there. He's starting

0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:43.279
<v Speaker 1>defensive end, my other one's a safety, that that one

0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:45.839
<v Speaker 1>was a quarterback the old line, and you know, it

0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:48.360
<v Speaker 1>was just a great experience there. Like I said, I

0:39:48.360 --> 0:39:51.520
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't change any of it. You didn't get drafted after

0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:53.520
<v Speaker 1>playing at Michigan State, but a lot of teams were

0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:55.880
<v Speaker 1>interested in signing you as a college free agent. You

0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:58.440
<v Speaker 1>started out with the Saints on their practice squad, then

0:39:58.480 --> 0:40:00.680
<v Speaker 1>you got picked up by the Eagles, and you made

0:40:00.680 --> 0:40:03.799
<v Speaker 1>your debut for Philly in December of twenty twenty. What

0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:05.920
<v Speaker 1>do you remember about taking the field in that first

0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:09.120
<v Speaker 1>game and knowing that you had made it to the NFL?

0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:11.799
<v Speaker 1>That was That was a weird week for me when

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:13.880
<v Speaker 1>they came and when they picked me up that Monday

0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:16.840
<v Speaker 1>morning they claimed me off the practice squad and I

0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:18.560
<v Speaker 1>get up there. It was weird because COVID I wasn't

0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:20.320
<v Speaker 1>allowed to go into the building at all during Philly,

0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:22.800
<v Speaker 1>so I didn't get to go meet anyone until Sunday

0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:26.480
<v Speaker 1>when we were playing actually New Orleans, so I didn't

0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:28.720
<v Speaker 1>go to the building one time. First time seeing everyone

0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:30.960
<v Speaker 1>was actually in the stadium in the locker room on Sunday,

0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:32.600
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, all right, here you go. You're

0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna kickoff return and punt return to start, and it

0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:37.360
<v Speaker 1>was it was definitely sounding like I said, I'm not

0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:38.719
<v Speaker 1>going to forget that because that it was just a

0:40:38.760 --> 0:40:41.759
<v Speaker 1>wild experienced the whole COVID situation anyways, in twenty twenty

0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 1>as a whole. But yeah, that that's not how I

0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 1>pictured it happening, But you know, you'll take it anyway.

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:50.879
<v Speaker 1>At this point, what was your reaction to getting picked

0:40:50.960 --> 0:40:53.560
<v Speaker 1>up by Cincinnati the next year? Like I said, I'm

0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:56.400
<v Speaker 1>from Cleveland, I was a Browns fan growing up. That

0:40:56.480 --> 0:40:58.319
<v Speaker 1>kind of wore off one thing at the college. You know,

0:40:58.360 --> 0:41:00.680
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of Detroit games on. I was itchin state,

0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:03.200
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I really just whatever team is gonna

0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:04.840
<v Speaker 1>pick me. If I was the NFL wasn't be great

0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:06.920
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't know what to expect it I came here.

0:41:06.960 --> 0:41:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I just knew this is already my third team and

0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:10.560
<v Speaker 1>basically a year and a half and you know, I

0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:13.440
<v Speaker 1>got to prove, you know that I'm willing to you know,

0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:15.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm a guy that can play in this league and

0:41:15.840 --> 0:41:17.520
<v Speaker 1>ever since I've been here, you know, I've enjoyed it

0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 1>more and more every day, and a lot of the

0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:20.239
<v Speaker 1>guys in there just made it a lot easier for

0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:23.000
<v Speaker 1>me to transition over here, for sure. So last year,

0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:25.520
<v Speaker 1>you moved into the starting lineup during a stretch where

0:41:25.520 --> 0:41:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Logan Wilson was hurt, and in your second game you

0:41:28.480 --> 0:41:30.880
<v Speaker 1>got hurt. You tore your ACL at Denver. It was

0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 1>on the same play where Teddy Bridgewater had to be

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:36.480
<v Speaker 1>carted off and a mobilized, so kind of the focus

0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:40.400
<v Speaker 1>was on him, and obviously you were in pain as well.

0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:43.640
<v Speaker 1>I watched the replay. I couldn't really tell how it happened.

0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:46.840
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like your knee collided or anything like that.

0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:48.640
<v Speaker 1>That was a weird experience for me, just because I've

0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:52.080
<v Speaker 1>never had a true serious like knee injury like that

0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:55.600
<v Speaker 1>knock on wood. But yeah, when that happened, I knew

0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:57.279
<v Speaker 1>something was wrong, so I haven't had that feeling before.

0:41:57.320 --> 0:41:59.000
<v Speaker 1>And it was just off a little plant. I kind

0:41:59.000 --> 0:42:00.840
<v Speaker 1>of was baiting him in cutting back and I was

0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:02.719
<v Speaker 1>hoping he was going to do that, so it was

0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:04.200
<v Speaker 1>it happened. I put my left foot in the ground

0:42:04.200 --> 0:42:06.080
<v Speaker 1>and I felt it and I put my shoulder on.

0:42:06.120 --> 0:42:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it kind of going over top of me,

0:42:07.600 --> 0:42:09.719
<v Speaker 1>but I knew it right away something was wrong. I

0:42:09.760 --> 0:42:11.960
<v Speaker 1>walked off the field. I remember walking back into the

0:42:11.960 --> 0:42:15.080
<v Speaker 1>locker room. You know, I got up relatively quick cause

0:42:15.080 --> 0:42:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I just was freaking out on the field. This goes

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:19.239
<v Speaker 1>back to my dad when I was younger and never

0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:21.000
<v Speaker 1>been laying on the field. So when I was down,

0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:23.160
<v Speaker 1>that's all I could think about, You gotta get off

0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:24.880
<v Speaker 1>the field now. So I remember going back into the

0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:27.200
<v Speaker 1>X ray room. I take a look up at the

0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:29.160
<v Speaker 1>screen and Teddy was being carted off, and I'm like,

0:42:29.200 --> 0:42:31.600
<v Speaker 1>what's going on. I had no idea he got hurt

0:42:31.600 --> 0:42:33.680
<v Speaker 1>on the same play and they're like, no, it's still

0:42:33.719 --> 0:42:35.719
<v Speaker 1>the same play. I'm like, oh my god, this was

0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:38.560
<v Speaker 1>That was a messbul play. But yeah, that's not a

0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:41.560
<v Speaker 1>great feeling when that happened. What was the toughest part

0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:45.120
<v Speaker 1>of rehab for you? The mental part of it for sure,

0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:48.080
<v Speaker 1>and just being consistent. You know, how many times can

0:42:48.120 --> 0:42:51.279
<v Speaker 1>you do these same exercises over and over and over

0:42:51.320 --> 0:42:53.480
<v Speaker 1>again during the week, and you're doing the same type

0:42:53.480 --> 0:42:55.160
<v Speaker 1>stuff four or five days a week, and you're really

0:42:55.160 --> 0:42:57.000
<v Speaker 1>you gotta push it because you gotta get your muscles

0:42:57.000 --> 0:43:00.160
<v Speaker 1>all back and you get everything working again. But I

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:02.600
<v Speaker 1>said it was the mental part of it, and pushing

0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:04.800
<v Speaker 1>through a lot of it taught me a lot about myself.

0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:09.240
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's hit some wildcard categories now for Joe Bacci.

0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Who is your all time favorite athlete in any sport?

0:43:13.440 --> 0:43:16.760
<v Speaker 1>And why I got two? I was a big Peyton

0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Manning fan growing up. That's what I alse thought I

0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:22.239
<v Speaker 1>was gonna play quarterback. But then being from Cleveland, I

0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:25.200
<v Speaker 1>was always a Lebron fan and he was always like,

0:43:25.520 --> 0:43:27.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, as a kid in Cleveland, you're playing basketball,

0:43:27.600 --> 0:43:29.560
<v Speaker 1>you're being Lebron James out there in the backyard or

0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:31.480
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is. And he was kind of a guy

0:43:31.520 --> 0:43:34.600
<v Speaker 1>that I always, you know, enjoyed watching for sure. Were

0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:37.920
<v Speaker 1>you able to attend Browns, Calves, Indians games things like that?

0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Is kid? Uh, we didn't. I think that time we

0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:42.640
<v Speaker 1>actually played in Cleveland this year is probably my third

0:43:42.680 --> 0:43:45.239
<v Speaker 1>time in that stadium ever, Like we never went. It

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<v Speaker 1>was you know, you pay for parking, then you pay

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<v Speaker 1>for me and my brother and my dad. It's I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get a drink and something. Just spending a couple

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<v Speaker 1>hundred bucks there. You know, weird never knew that we

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<v Speaker 1>were watching the game from the couch at home on Sundays.

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<v Speaker 1>But I got to a couple of Indians games, a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of Calves games, just from no one people and

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<v Speaker 1>having some connections there back home. When the Cavs finally

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<v Speaker 1>won the NBA title, what did that mean to you

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<v Speaker 1>as a Clevelander. I was actually in college. I enrolled early,

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<v Speaker 1>left high school early, so all my buddies were just

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<v Speaker 1>finishing up high school and they were all downtown sending

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<v Speaker 1>me videos and everything that was going on. It was

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<v Speaker 1>chaos down there. I'm actually glad I wasn't down there

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<v Speaker 1>and then for the parade and all that, but I

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<v Speaker 1>aren't being at Michigan State and you know and watching

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<v Speaker 1>with my roommates at the time, and I lost my

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<v Speaker 1>mind when they wanted, you know, come back from three

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<v Speaker 1>one like that, and for the city of Cleveland, that

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<v Speaker 1>was awesome. Do you have any hidden talents? I don't,

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<v Speaker 1>But I wish if I was talented anything. I wish

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<v Speaker 1>I could sing. I do it enough where I should

0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:40.120
<v Speaker 1>be better, but I'm just not. I just don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a singing voice. I would say in the shower, though,

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<v Speaker 1>Are you belting it out when there are no witnesses? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm great in the shower and usually in the truck alone.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty good at it to singing some country songs,

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<v Speaker 1>but other than that, I you know, maybe on the

0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:54.839
<v Speaker 1>boat when everyone's singing, I'll be singing a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's about it for me. What do you like

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<v Speaker 1>to spend your money on? Really nothing. We are trying

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<v Speaker 1>to save up right now, me and my girlfriend. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a big designer brand anything. You know. I

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<v Speaker 1>still got the same pair of shoes I kind of

0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:12.120
<v Speaker 1>wear to the billity of the best two years. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really change my style much. If there's one thing

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<v Speaker 1>that gets me every time I walk in there, every

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<v Speaker 1>time I walk into Lulu Lemon, for some reason, I

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<v Speaker 1>ended up grabbing a couple of things and it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little pricey in there. Do you get annoyed when people

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<v Speaker 1>mispronounce your last name? It's happened my entire life, you know, Bacchi,

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:32.319
<v Speaker 1>Bacchi whatever you hear over there, and it's I'd like

0:45:32.680 --> 0:45:35.040
<v Speaker 1>to know. At this point, I'm hoping people are starting

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<v Speaker 1>to know my name by now that it's Joe Bacci.

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<v Speaker 1>They should. I hope so, especially in college, and I

0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:44.399
<v Speaker 1>have the wrong in college, but come on, I'm one

0:45:44.400 --> 0:45:46.160
<v Speaker 1>of the better players. I think in the Big Ten.

0:45:46.320 --> 0:45:48.520
<v Speaker 1>You got to know my name by now, but I

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<v Speaker 1>hope they know it by now. All right, Final fun fact,

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<v Speaker 1>This one's kind of deep. If you could meet anybody

0:45:55.800 --> 0:46:02.160
<v Speaker 1>in history, athlete, actor, statesmen, whoever that person might be,

0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:06.480
<v Speaker 1>who would you want to meet? I like to think

0:46:06.560 --> 0:46:09.520
<v Speaker 1>of some historical figure, but then I always go back to,

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<v Speaker 1>like I would really like to meet Mark Wahlberg. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I feel like that'd be an interesting person to

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<v Speaker 1>meet and sit down with. Um, maybe i've dinner, maybe

0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:18.520
<v Speaker 1>have a drink with him and talk with him. See.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel better now because when I think about this

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<v Speaker 1>question for myself, my guy is Steve Martin. I love

0:46:24.320 --> 0:46:26.440
<v Speaker 1>Steve Martin, and I feel guilty like it should be

0:46:26.480 --> 0:46:30.000
<v Speaker 1>George Washington. So I feel the same way, like I could.

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<v Speaker 1>I could definitely do that, but I just for some

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<v Speaker 1>reason that kind of always goes back to that, or

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<v Speaker 1>you know someone else who I think would just be

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<v Speaker 1>a good time. That's That's kind of where I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>with this. I want to who would be a good

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<v Speaker 1>time to sit down with and talking. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>he'd be an interesting person. Mark Walburg. Yeah, Mark Walburg,

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<v Speaker 1>there it is, Joe. I appreciate your time. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>very much. Best to look the rest of the year.

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