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Speaker 1: None of this man is changing the game up. You know.

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Speaker 3: It must be new. Then we've been doing it for

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Speaker 2: Bit, just a little bit. Okay, So we've been doing

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Speaker 2: it though you notice it? Yeah, I ain't noticed.

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Speaker 1: W's adding the homeboys and home girls evidently got no

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Speaker 1: what's popping. We got the homey little Rustle up here

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Speaker 1: this week, dropping an independent game for y'all. It's a

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Speaker 4: It's not your average shows. You're now tuned into the.

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Speaker 1: Real Welcome to the gangst The Chronicles podcast, the production

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Speaker 1: because you got like a weird trainer thought. It ain't weird,

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Speaker 1: but it's refreshing, like what you doing, the shows in

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And this is Against the

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Speaker 1: Chronicles podcast, My boy, do you.

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Speaker 4: See how you mean?

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Speaker 1: So everybody soon had this idea. Man, that ship just

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Speaker 1: with that business model? I think it's dope. I think

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Speaker 5: And that always cultivated your base because when people know

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Speaker 4: That's it. It's that same play.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I really fuck with your story, though, man, And

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Speaker 5: You feel what I'm saying, It's a and it's a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy, man, I know, how has it been

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Speaker 1: of built these big buildings and these big infrastructures that

435
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,040
Speaker 1: you see. They was kind of built off against the

436
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:19,040
Speaker 1: rep man for the streets.

437
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:24,160
Speaker 3: That's why you see a lot of thirty thirty plus

438
00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 3: artists just now coming in to do of making residuals

439
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,560
Speaker 3: and getting payments because you know, we were signed contracts

440
00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 3: not knowing shit. Motherfuckers would own shit for thirty forty years.

441
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:41,479
Speaker 3: You know, like I said me, I was shit. I

442
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,200
Speaker 3: was sixteen seventeen, like I said I was. I was

443
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:49,159
Speaker 3: a neighborhood kid. Niggas was making records and I just

444
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 3: thought it would be a cool way to supplement instead

445
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 3: of getting out selling cracking shit every day because everybody

446
00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,359
Speaker 3: was going to jail or getting shot at or that route. So,

447
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 3: but we weren't inclined of independency. And had I known

448
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 3: that I could put my own record out, you know,

449
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,440
Speaker 3: definitely that would have been a route with a.

450
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,960
Speaker 2: Street proceeds and shit like that.

451
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 3: But uh, we felt like, uh without that, uh, without that,

452
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 3: that machine, you wouldn't be successful as an artist back then.

453
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:31,439
Speaker 3: I mean, and it's the machine. They did everything you

454
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:36,400
Speaker 3: give me, there wasn't really no you know, uh independent

455
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 3: record labels, which there were a gang of them, you

456
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. But as far as we were looking,

457
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 3: you know who was successful from from selling records, you know.

458
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 3: So it was just a hobby to get into. And

459
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 3: then once you start seeing you know, the materialism in

460
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 3: in hip hop and what they blind you with with

461
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 3: a couple of peace is in a couple of little

462
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 3: checks or you know, send you out of town to

463
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 3: a fancy dinner or something like that. You know, you

464
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 3: get blinded by you know, mechanical royalties and publishing and

465
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 3: owning your own masters and all of that. So, uh,

466
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 3: a lot of us got fucked out of a lot

467
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 3: of shit, you know, ownership of and now you have companies,

468
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,360
Speaker 3: you know, you look up, you get contacted by companies

469
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 3: you did records with thirty years ago and like, oh,

470
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 3: we got some royalties for you. You know, so it's

471
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 3: it's a catch twenty two, you know what I'm saying.

472
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 5: Do you feel like because even today, like I think

473
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 5: a lot of our legends, right you look at a

474
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 5: Kendrick icolea a hole or any of them would they

475
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 5: be who they are if they weren't signed to a major, right, Yeah,

476
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 5: So that like that role still exists, like everybody who

477
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,040
Speaker 5: if you go have a conversation of man, who's the

478
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 5: top guys? They're all signed to a major and that's

479
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 5: probably why they're even in the conversation, Like we're just

480
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 5: now getting to a point like I still I still

481
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 5: be shocked at how far I've been able to get

482
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 5: without being in the system, because you don't really see

483
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 5: it in existence, like like even Nipsey's Like Nipsey's biggest

484
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 5: era was with Atlantic, right, like that was here, you

485
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 5: feel me. But even before Atlantic, he was with Cinematic,

486
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 5: and you know, like it was it was always a

487
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 5: machine and engine behind it. And I always think like, man,

488
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,919
Speaker 5: if you pull that machine with some would some of

489
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 5: them be.

490
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 4: Where they are?

491
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: You know.

492
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 5: I've been fortunate to kind of be in this next

493
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 5: era of Kendrick and Colon in where I've really been

494
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 5: able to utilize the Internet to my advantage, so I

495
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 5: haven't had.

496
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 4: To use the machine.

497
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 5: But even if I was on a machine, it would

498
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 5: probably be fifty times bigger, you know, So sometimes I.

499
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 4: Think, like, is that is what you lose? In these deals.

500
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 5: Sometimes still worth it if you.

501
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 4: Gain a legacy.

502
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 5: Like so, say if I signed you to an album

503
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 5: and I took all your royalties, but twenty years later,

504
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 5: you're still able to do shows and make money, perform

505
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 5: and make new music because you have a name that

506
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 5: was given to you by this machine, is it then fair?

507
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,679
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah? But you know what, a lot of

508
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 1: people don't get to see that. Man. It's a lot

509
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: of dudes out there that's on stuck right now.

510
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's.

511
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 3: It all depends I guess the position you would put

512
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 3: in myself. I was fortunate enough to make, you know,

513
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 3: be a member of Compton's Most Wanted, and then after

514
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 3: that venture out on my own as a solo artist,

515
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 3: being able to do projects like Boys in the Hood,

516
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 3: growing Up in the Hood, you know, which was the

517
00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 3: number one single in the country at one time. Being

518
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 3: able to portray a Wax and Minutes to society kind

519
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 3: of solidified it a little more.

520
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 2: And then being able to just make music.

521
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 3: You know, I think that's a lot of difference between

522
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 3: a lot of artists today, uh and back in my era,

523
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 3: we were highly favored on trying to make songs that

524
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 3: would last through the test of time because back then,

525
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 3: you know, you had to really prove yourself when it

526
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 3: came to lyricism, who was producing your record, who you

527
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 3: were signed to.

528
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 2: You know, there were no.

529
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 3: Independence or everything was Sony Universal Death Jam. You know

530
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 3: this that so we tried to pride ourselves on making

531
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 3: songs that would stand the test of time. Thus I'm

532
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 3: able to steal go oversee. You know, I just came

533
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 3: from a tour overseas for what three weeks February in Europe.

534
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 3: I've been to Japan three or four times on tours.

535
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 3: I'm still doing shows that I got to show what

536
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:14,719
Speaker 3: EPM D and ice Cube in Detroit next month. So

537
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 3: we're able to fortunate. We're fortunate enough to still be

538
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 3: able to stand the tester. But like you said, there

539
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 3: was a lot of cats who came from our era

540
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 3: who weren't who are not you know, able to go

541
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 3: out and do shows or you know, I was able

542
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 3: to do Grand Theft Auto with with with San Andreas

543
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 3: and in the video game but Rockstar games. You know,

544
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 3: I was able to get on Mad City with Kendrick.

545
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 3: You know, there's certain artists who are able to withstand

546
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 3: the test of time. You know, the Cubes, the m

547
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,719
Speaker 3: C eights, the Snoop Dogs, you know. But there were

548
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 3: a lot of artists who came from our era who

549
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 3: probably got washed up, and a lot of that, uh

550
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 3: made your label shit, that's real shit.

551
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: And you always got to be open man to do

552
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: with what's next life?

553
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 2: You know.

554
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: It's like now, like even with this podcast and stuff,

555
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: you'd have told me, man, fifteen years ago, this shit

556
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: to be like this. I'd be like, man, you walk

557
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 1: your mind. I was just we was just doing it

558
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: for fun, man, you know.

559
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 3: Exactly shit twenty years ago, I mean twenty five years ago,

560
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 3: if you know, motherfuckers was you know, download download, download,

561
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 3: you know, and I'm I'm a motherfucker who came from

562
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 3: no I go take a photo shoot and do a

563
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 3: promo tour and my record comes in the package and

564
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 3: all of that. So motherfucker's got to talking download and shit.

565
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 3: To me, I thought they were stupid like and download

566
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 3: like and nobody motherfuckers ain't walking around with no iPods

567
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 3: and shit like that. Niggas still throwing in CDs and

568
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 3: shiit now. So I was skeptical about to change, you know,

569
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 3: but it happens.

570
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, And I think you just gotta be

571
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: willing man just to go, just to go where it goes.

572
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: And you made an interesting point man, because radio still

573
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: creates the superstar like people at like the radio is

574
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: just dead now and all radio is steal very much.

575
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: You know. You when Power when you know Hot ninety

576
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: seven and Power one oh six had them conference, it'll

577
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: be thousands of people that be you know, an arenas

578
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: and to be packed a radio steal. You know, radio

579
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 1: still creates the megastar, right, but the thing heals as

580
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: an independent They still only go let you go so

581
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: far on radio and then you got it and then

582
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: the things them. Yeah, you have messed around and spend

583
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: so much money that it ain't really I don't seen

584
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: homies go on and spend fifty sixty bigger they record,

585
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: get dog, the more identifyingly they like, I can't keep

586
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: affording this shit. I can't afford it no more. And

587
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: so I think that's what it is. But I think

588
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: you kind of reinventing that mold too, though, Like it's

589
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: a lot of first with you when I think what

590
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: you go start seeing as dudes like Kendricks start, they

591
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: gonna start bypassing these labels in a minute, because now

592
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,479
Speaker 1: it don't make no sense to be especially when you

593
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: get to where Kendrick is at.

594
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 4: What is I don't need?

595
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 5: But that's they're smart, because when you get to a

596
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 5: Kendrick Cold Drake level, they'll give you whatever you want

597
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 5: to stay there because they know that, you feel me,

598
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 5: Like they ran Drake tons of ms because they know, nigga,

599
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 5: we're not gonna let you leave. You're gonna come be

600
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 5: happy here you have a billion because we know if

601
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 5: you leave what that does to the infrastructure. So they smarts.

602
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 5: Like even Kendrick now you know, like having his own imprint,

603
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 5: his distribution is through still through the majors, and it's like,

604
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 5: of course they gonna make sure he got what he

605
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 5: needs so he don't have to go independent and throw

606
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 5: off the market share.

607
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 4: You feel me.

608
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: And it's still through in the school of course in

609
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: the scoop always, no matter what happened in scope, always

610
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: keep themselves in the mix.

611
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 3: But that's that's the smart ship. Yeah, this this paperwork

612
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 3: gonna be constructed to where if we ever fall out

613
00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 3: with these motherfuckers, were still gonna have first hands of

614
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 3: doing whatever you want to do. By yourself, like you're

615
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 3: not gonna cut us out of that. So even before

616
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 3: ship gets started, we want that down on paper, and

617
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 3: you ever decide to lead, and motherfucker's cool, but we

618
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 3: got first dips when you decide to lead.

619
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 5: And they gonna always win that like major artist distro

620
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 5: war because if I go independent distribution and I go

621
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 5: to video or anywhere in our major I could get

622
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 5: like a ninety five five right, But if I'm Kendrick

623
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 5: and I want to independent distro, I could go to

624
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 5: them and they gonna give me the same ninety five

625
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 5: five plus some chicken because they don't want me to

626
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 5: go there.

627
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 4: So it's like you're always win.

628
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 3: They don't give you that signing bonus, like fuck that

629
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 3: ship here, take this sign in bonus. We're gonna give

630
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 3: you that nine five five, but were on top of that,

631
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 3: we're gonna give your motherfucker signing bonus too.

632
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 5: And that's the thing, like Stan indeed, isn't for everybody

633
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 5: because everybody's not willing to do the work. This work man,

634
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 5: And it's like you when you signed to a label,

635
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 5: you getting advanced money in your pocket and you get

636
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 5: a marketing budget, so money that they gonna spend just

637
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 5: to make sure they investment yields return when you endy.

638
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 5: It's for everything your AD budget you're see them, but

639
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 5: your DSP budget. Yeah, if I got to go catch

640
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 5: a flight and tour, all of that, it's on you.

641
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 5: And it's like, yeah, you make the line share of

642
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 5: the money, but it's all on you. It's not a

643
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 5: pot you get to pull from in a team of

644
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 5: resources that's constantly pushing you to so you really got

645
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 5: a way to benefits. Like I'm in a point now

646
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 5: where like I would sign major if it made sense.

647
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 5: We just haven't found a situation that made sense. And

648
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 5: I'm good enough and sustained enough to like do whatever

649
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 5: I want to do, so I don't have to.

650
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 4: But when it makes sense, it's.

651
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 5: It just don't it don't if you It don't make

652
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 5: no sense any otherwise because all the infrastructure that you

653
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 5: would have to go through to get to where you

654
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 5: want to get to, you're gonna have to go deal

655
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 5: with them.

656
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: And this is your whole team. I notice you came

657
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: in with all this. Your team is with you.

658
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 4: There's like a tenth of it.

659
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: So you got your whole little little squad right there,

660
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: The good company.

661
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 4: Is just you got your own movement and everybody do something.

662
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: That's the main thing. You gotta have it, man, Because

663
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: when I first started doing the whole media thing, I

664
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: had a team of people too. But then the moment

665
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: I started asking people to kind of start picking up

666
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: their way because everybody's wanted money. You know, everybody you

667
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: know wanted to just thought they was gonna follow me

668
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: around and just share my money with me. You got

669
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: to bring some to the table. Do you got to

670
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: ca Do you got a camera that you know how

671
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: to use or something you know? You know, do you

672
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: have some contacts over here? You know you gotta work.

673
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: It ain't just you just go eat off of me.

674
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: And that's powerful. You got your people down here with you, man,

675
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: and it looks like y'all move as a unit too.

676
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 5: I've went through so many phases of team and infrastructure

677
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 5: and staff, like I started off with all of my

678
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 5: close friends because I'm from a neighborhood that don't have

679
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 5: resources and infrastructure, so I didn't necessarily have the people

680
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 5: I needed. I just had who was available to me.

681
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 5: I was always pushing and working and it's like, come on,

682
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 5: help me, to help me with let's run here, let's

683
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 5: go here. You feel me and it really helped me

684
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 5: get to a certain point. But when you start getting

685
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 5: people in that are like people, you absolutely need that

686
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 5: change to courses. You could tell when you find certain

687
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 5: people because your life changed fast for real short amounts

688
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 5: of time, and it makes you look at everyone around.

689
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 4: You and be like, man, well what was happening here

690
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 4: and why what you know?

691
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: So it's like sometimes friendships get tested bro.

692
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 5: For certain, for certain for certain, and it's like you

693
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 5: it ain't even like.

694
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 4: A loss of a friendship. It's just like.

695
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 5: I had I have a thing that I say, like

696
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 5: if if I don't believe this person would be able

697
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 5: to live this same life without me, then I stray

698
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 5: away from building business.

699
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 4: Like some people.

700
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 5: Tea is the type of person like she was gonna

701
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 5: get here regardless.

702
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 4: She worked just.

703
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 5: As hard as me, she as driven as me. Splash

704
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 5: was gonna get here regardless he put that work in.

705
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,439
Speaker 5: So it's like easy for us to be together because

706
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 5: it's like we were all gonna end up in the

707
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 5: same place. But I've had niggas that was like they

708
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 5: would have never gotten to live the life that they

709
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 5: was living while with me because they wouldn't have worked

710
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 5: for it, you feel me, they wasn't willing to put

711
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 5: in the time and the effort that it.

712
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 4: Took to actually get there.

713
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 5: And that shit throw off the boat and you don't

714
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 5: realize it until you're in the middle of the sea

715
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 5: and it's like, hey, we need everybody to dump some

716
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 5: water off this so well see and.

717
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: It's like else too, I saw you that popsy.

718
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 4: Cooking food at the shows.

719
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: Man, that's powerful. Man, that's cool, right, that's cool man,

720
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: Like what has been your moment? Mannick? You kind of

721
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: had to sit back and be like, man, this shit

722
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: really just happened, Like, who did you meet that really

723
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: just fucked your head up so far?

724
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 4: Snoop that was a major one, you know, just cause like.

725
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 5: One of my early introductions to rap that I was like,

726
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be a rapper.

727
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 4: My mama used to always watch it up and smoke.

728
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 5: Toward DVD and Snoop and Dre and it was just

729
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 5: like I didn't used to think Snoop was a real person.

730
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 5: I thought he was like a character. You feel me like,

731
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 5: you don't understand it as a kid. So that was

732
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 5: one that was just like Wow, we really walking in

733
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 5: that path. Like you know, I know niggas go their

734
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 5: whole life and don't meet Snoop Dogg. You know, it's

735
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 5: not like for real, you know, people go they So

736
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 5: when you get into certain rooms and meet certain people,

737
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 5: start having certain conversations every day, I'm like, I have

738
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 5: moments while I'm just hyper president and I'm like, damn,

739
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 5: this is really like my life. But it's still a dream,

740
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 5: you know, because you see it all as a kid

741
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 5: and you don't imagine that you could be a part

742
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 5: of it. I never met nobody like famous or successful,

743
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 5: so I never thought that it was like a real

744
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 5: tangible thing until I was an adult.

745
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's real important, man, to sit back and

746
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: enjoy this stuff, man, because when you get to move

747
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: walk amongst a certain path, it's a blessing man. And

748
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 1: I really believe that God. I think all that stuff

749
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: is a spiritual thing. I think it comes from God.

750
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: I think God pretty much had a plan for this

751
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: man to say you gonna be m C eight no matter.

752
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 3: And I didn't know what the fuck I was gonna do.

753
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 3: Like I said, we didn't. I just we just didn't know.

754
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 3: Didn't know. I didn't have to, you know, like I said,

755
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 3: I didn't have no motherfucking we I guess you was

756
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 3: all influenced by you know, oh, Michael Jackson, the Jackson

757
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 3: five can sing and ship like that, but in reality,

758
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 3: you like think he could be I live on Johnson

759
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 3: I live on Johnson Street in Compton.

760
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: Cared the motherfucking place so to be able to look.

761
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 3: Up now and like they got a son in college,

762
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 3: I didnet been around the world three four times, you know,

763
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 3: every state in this mother fucker shows and videos and

764
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 3: you know, but you you never you never put yourself

765
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 3: in that position, like you said, as a kid, you

766
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 3: always had those dreams. You know, as a kid, I

767
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 3: was I'm be a fireman, I'm be a policeman.

768
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 2: You get me, like those are those kids dreams? You

769
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: get me fuck that, you know.

770
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 3: And then as reality starts sitting there and you're seeing

771
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 3: the fucking helicopter every night and niggas getting shot outside,

772
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 3: you like.

773
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 2: Nigga, it is hell around here.

774
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 3: Nigga ain't getting out of no, and you get to

775
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 3: cut like shit, I joined the army, Like yeah, I

776
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 3: have no idea because like, ain't no, ain't no, like

777
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 3: the niggas down the street is hustlers.

778
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: Nigga.

779
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 3: They got all brand new cars and datings and beepers

780
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 3: and cell phones and ship like that, and like, so

781
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 3: where's the positivity in this ship?

782
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: You know?

783
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 5: What's hella crazy that we grew up in a place

784
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 5: to where like there's some people who grew cultivated to

785
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 5: where like in their situations they be like, man, I

786
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 5: could just apply myself if I do this and do this,

787
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 5: we be like, Nigga, I'm finna go to the military.

788
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, what's the easy answer?

789
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: Real quick?

790
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 3: Testing school or what's the easy answer? Nigga already fucking

791
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 3: sign me up? Fucking shit, because really, when you in

792
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 3: like poverty and you see struggle, you don't see success

793
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 3: for yourself. Man Like, like I said, you get to

794
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 3: a certain point as a kid, Yeah, I'm out there

795
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 3: riding my big wheel and getting a little ice cream

796
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 3: or whatever. But nigga, twelve thirteen starts sitting in and

797
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 3: you start realizing moms ain't giving up them five dollars

798
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 3: she used to give me as a kid, I'm out here,

799
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 3: broken home, gry, Like, what what's the choice? Going to school?

800
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 3: Is difficulty? Because I'm not dumb, But let no, motherfucking

801
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 3: brainiac me like the square root of two and all

802
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 3: that shit. Now this motherfucker's in school like then. Motherfuckers

803
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 3: is going something that ain't me like that. Shit ain't

804
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 3: me like nigga. I'm basic with my math in English

805
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 3: and shit like that, So you know, you try to

806
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 3: find that niche. Some motherfuckers be like fucking and back

807
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,919
Speaker 3: then when it had seven on sevens and all these

808
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 3: motherfucking contest kids can go play.

809
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 2: Sports and get three and four stars.

810
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: And I get that it's hard because I played football right,

811
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: but I was from the hood, and it took a

812
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: man to actually take me up out of Cleveland. I'm

813
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: from the east side of Cleveland. He took me up them.

814
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: Heills that I've never been up. He said, you know,

815
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: you play football good enough to where you can really

816
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: get out of here. But by the time I really

817
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: realized that, it start believing it was too late and

818
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: my grades wasn't right. But it's still in California to.

819
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 3: Take me nowhere. Nigga. I saw niggas down the street. Nigga,

820
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 3: that fucking b signed trucks with the ski racks on them,

821
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 3: them big center lines and shit, and the homies had

822
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 3: the VW bugs with the plush and them. Nigga, I

823
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 3: was like them.

824
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: One of them, and it ain't finna be.

825
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,439
Speaker 3: No college scholarship. Niggas ain't talking about no scholarships around here.

826
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,439
Speaker 2: Niggas ain't tilling around here, nigga. You better go grind

827
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: you a double up fifty nigga and hit three block.

828
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 4: And you know what's crazy? Like that?

829
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 5: The representation does everything, Like I see the difference in

830
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 5: like my nephews and the kids in my neighborhood and

831
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 5: the kids at my daughter school when they see me,

832
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 5: and I hear the difference in how they speak and

833
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 5: communicate when they around, like they really see it different

834
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,959
Speaker 5: because they see somebody successful just in the block, walking around,

835
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 5: moving around, so they their whole perception of it is different.

836
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,919
Speaker 3: Can you see the perception of all the Chris's friends

837
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 3: who when they started as kids and you put them

838
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 3: in the U football and shit like that, niggas going.

839
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 2: To college and shit, niggas got big.

840
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 3: Nigga, When I was that age, there wasn't nobody going

841
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 3: to no motherfucking college and what's influential?

842
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: Dead men? Some of them kids, If I would some

843
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: of them kids that's in school right now. Eight Had

844
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: I not been in my truck going to go pick

845
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: them up, they probably might not have got there. Some

846
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: of my friends made me still serving, some of my

847
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 1: friends still in prison right now. You give me as

848
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: opposed to how Karan had the difference they going to college. Man,

849
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: I just got construction jobs. I made sure my son

850
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 1: didn't go through the exactly. I made sure my son

851
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: didn't miss it, like how my grades were messed up.

852
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: I made sure my son went to the best school

853
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 1: to where they had the n C two way person

854
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: in the school, you know, in the athletic department that

855
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: made sure his grades is right. I made sure my

856
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,439
Speaker 1: son got them opportunities and all them colleges were knocking

857
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: on this door he was gonna be able to go.

858
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: Because that really hunted me all my life. I was like, man,

859
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 1: I could have really went to Ohio stated somewhere.

860
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 2: Man.

861
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 3: You know, you hear people say, you know what opportunities

862
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 3: were available, but a lot of opportunities weren't available. And

863
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 3: like I said, for me, it's a difference now because

864
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 3: with the Internet and social media and being knowledgeable about

865
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 3: certain like yourself, I never thought of that independency and

866
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 3: then put your own fucking records out. Make motherfuckers do

867
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 3: this and do that, and your value and whatever. Man,

868
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 3: I was like, now I'm trying to get it the

869
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 3: hell up out of counting, man. So whatever it is,

870
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 3: sign on the dotted line. Let's go. So the influences

871
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 3: are different today. You give me, and that's that's great

872
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 3: that some of us went through situations that gave them

873
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 3: the ability to go.

874
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: I ain't getting fucked like that. I'm not getting fucked

875
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 2: like that.

876
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 3: I might as well do my own shit before I

877
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 3: let the motherfucker come along and take what ninety percent

878
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 3: of what I make you feel me and then want

879
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 3: to charge me back for the shit and give me

880
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 3: fucking seven cents for the shit.

881
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 2: That I'm making back for it.

882
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: Get the record dealers them checking the cash things, you

883
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: know them people that gon borrow money against they pay check,

884
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: They damn the gout. That's what the record deal lives.

885
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 4: Man, That's exactly.

886
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: What it is.

887
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 2: We're gonna put this record out.

888
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 3: We're gonna make thirty million, but we invested motherfucking ten million,

889
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 3: and your portion is fucking fifty cents, and you're gonna

890
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 3: pay us back, motherfucking.

891
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 2: To you gonna pay us back.

892
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 3: Now, the project that made about one hundred million is great,

893
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 3: but that's ours, that's our cut, that's business. And you

894
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 3: be like, well, wait a minute, I wrote it, I

895
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 3: produced it, A motherfucker danced around like a motherfucking clown

896
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 3: for it, and ship and after all I did, all

897
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 3: I get is fifty cents and you get to keep like, nigga,

898
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 3: you ain't done ship all of it.

899
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: And then they still might come and tell you, oh, man,

900
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: your record has been profitable. But you know what, we

901
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: gonna let you do another one. That's what they do.

902
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: They always gonna let you do another one, but we'll

903
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:00,479
Speaker 1: elect you doing nothing.

904
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 4: Be making sense, Yeah, we didn't.

905
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 2: We're gonna get you to that.

906
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 3: You get to you get to that three seventy five

907
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 3: edge we were gonna get. We're gonna let you do

908
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 3: another one. Three seventy five. That's a little bit of

909
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 3: change for us. So we're gonna let you get another one. Now,

910
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 3: you did about one hundred and fifty. You might not

911
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 3: get another chance, but three three seventy five, a lot

912
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 3: of niggas was hitting that three hundred thousand more.

913
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: You gotta remember that's six sevens a pump.

914
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 2: Though, Man, come on, man, they come on, let's do

915
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 2: another one.

916
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,280
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, So what did you do for work before

917
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: your why you was when you first started? What was

918
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: your regular job? Man?

919
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 5: I worked for UPS, I worked for fed X. I

920
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 5: worked at a winery and.

921
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: Them good jobs, them good gigs.

922
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 5: Hell No, Now, when you enter in Nigga, I was

923
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 5: loading the truck, help running around, talking off package at

924
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 5: the winery, Nigga eyed this stump in the been on

925
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 5: grapes at the time. Moved up to like doing pump,

926
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 5: always in production, but it was like labor. And then

927
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 5: my last job was at Aerospace. I got in there

928
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 5: through a temp agency and I was just on the

929
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 5: floor and packaging and laboring and shit.

930
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 4: I start like reading all.

931
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 5: Their procedures and protocols and like I changed some shit

932
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 5: at the job. They used to like spray paint, stencil,

933
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 5: all of these like military packages and shit, and it

934
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 5: would take forever. And all I did was came in

935
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 5: and read all the books because I was lazy. I

936
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 5: didn't want to do all that. And I found out

937
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 5: that it was like a military gray label that you

938
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 5: could buy in this machine and if you could just

939
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 5: use those in lieu of the stencil and up the

940
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 5: production like a hundred acts. Like I really I changed

941
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 5: the shit out of that business to the point it

942
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 5: was like we was doing more and getting more money

943
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 5: in and getting more shit out than ever and I

944
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 5: didn't even realize. So like you got to your point,

945
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 5: I was asking for a raise, and I'm asking for

946
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 5: little money. Is always making little little money, not even

947
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 5: thinking like, but you just changed the entire so like

948
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 5: they're want to do this for the next twenty thirty

949
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 5: years when you no longer here. He was doing this

950
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 5: for the past thirty years before you came. So it's

951
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 5: like I wasn't even really been compensated for what I

952
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 5: was doing. But I learned so much. I was able

953
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 5: to move up to like that administrative floor and work

954
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 5: on contracts and shit, I was the only one up

955
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 5: there with no degree, and you feel me. I started

956
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,760
Speaker 5: learning the biz there and I was making a little

957
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 5: bit better money. But it still was like now that

958
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 5: I'm fucking successful and I make money and I actually

959
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 5: run business, it was like I wasn't making no damn

960
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 5: money there. I just thought I was making money. I

961
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 5: had more money than every nigga.

962
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: But I was coming up with you, And did you

963
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: ever find yourself at work thinking I'm like, man, I

964
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: should be on the road right now. I should be

965
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: doing this right now.

966
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 4: Man.

967
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, cause I started releasing my albums in my first

968
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 5: shows like a year and a half before I quit.

969
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 5: So after every single show, I used to have to

970
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 5: come back to work on that Monday and just be like.

971
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: Damn, did you ever have any coworkers that discovery your

972
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 1: secret identity?

973
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 4: Hell of them.

974
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 5: I used to get CDs off at the job co work.

975
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 5: You used to come to shows and hello. People used

976
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 5: to tell me like, bruh, you gonna be since you're

977
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 5: a little bit better than you know. So a lot

978
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 5: of people knew, but a lot of people didn't know either.

979
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 5: But I was always like, even the people who didn't

980
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 5: know I did music, they knew I was gonna be

981
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 5: something because just on the floor I was a leader.

982
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 5: I moved and navigated a certain way. But yeah, a

983
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 5: few of them found out and they start coming to

984
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 5: shows and supporting and everything.

985
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 1: They knew what was out You had that annoying bro

986
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 1: you had that you know, the spirit spoke on you, man, Yeah,

987
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: and knew he had something bigger for you. And that's

988
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: what I think. I think that all of our all

989
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: our trials and tribulations were going on our journey. Man

990
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 1: always prepares to something because I remember I would have

991
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: something bad happen, like and I'd be like, damn, like

992
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: that's fucked up. But then would I started noticing that

993
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: those bad things that happened kind of gave me some

994
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: knowledge up here. Man, it helped me in another situation,

995
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: and I start thinking, like, I wonder what God got

996
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: in store from me next. When the one door was closed,

997
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that's cool, because something else is about

998
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: to happen. And it's always been that way.

999
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 2: I know.

1000
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 1: Your kids get made, your kids get all the plug

1001
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: in school, and I.

1002
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 4: Don't think, yeah they do.

1003
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 5: Oh god, my daughter is like, see the school take

1004
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 5: care of her. Sometimes we'll go pick her up and

1005
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 5: her teacher or walk her across the street.

1006
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 4: Don't get them.

1007
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 5: All right, But it's a beautiful thing, Like it's real community.

1008
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 5: Like her teachers are from the city too, when they

1009
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 5: went to high school, like with my sister, and they

1010
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 5: come to shows. Like it's a group of kids that

1011
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 5: go to her school that help out with the backyard

1012
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 5: shows and like we got like a little volunteer program

1013
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 5: that one of them ever set up, so it's like

1014
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 5: it's real community. But yeah, she gets she gets special

1015
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 5: treatment at school.

1016
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: Man, you might miss run and be inspiring the next

1017
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: Jimmy Ivian or something that's right in your backyard. You

1018
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: just never know, bro, because I look at even when

1019
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: I ran my little football program, I see kids that's

1020
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: out there like balling right now, some of them in

1021
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: the NFL and stuff. And damn, I remember when I

1022
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: picked that little dude up and he was crying and

1023
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: I kind of made him stay, you know what I mean,

1024
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: Like certain little kids and you can see it in

1025
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 1: there before they see it in themself, and you're like, damn.

1026
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 5: Man, And all it takes sometimes is one person care.

1027
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 5: Like we we be going to my old high schools

1028
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 5: and we found a few kids that we really just

1029
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 5: changed their life by just being a presence and just

1030
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,760
Speaker 5: a day and caring and bringing them to the crib

1031
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 5: and hey, I wonder you correct getting this out, you know,

1032
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 5: just being in the community, like you really you really

1033
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 5: change people lives when you successful, when you in the

1034
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 5: community that you're from, because they see you every day,

1035
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 5: just like it's not a dream no more. It makes

1036
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 5: the reality feel like like the only reason niggas even

1037
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 5: consider the army is because we know so many niggas

1038
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 5: who win the army. So it's like when you see

1039
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 5: a bunch of people who like, ah, he's exactly he

1040
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 5: made it, that starts to become your norm.

1041
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: What is it man that you like, what's next for you? Like,

1042
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: what's the next level for you? What you're trying to

1043
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 1: do next? Man?

1044
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 4: I really, I really like.

1045
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 5: I'm living a version of my life that I never

1046
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 5: thought was possible at one point. So really, I just

1047
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 5: wake up every day and do the work, and whatever

1048
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 5: comes from that I be good with. You know, I

1049
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 5: don't even I don't even shoot too far ahead. I

1050
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 5: know that if I show up and do everything I

1051
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 5: need to do, whatever is next gonna end up in

1052
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 5: front of me in.

1053
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 3: The present too, and not really think. So you don't

1054
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 3: look to the future. You know, you don't know what's promised.

1055
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 3: So right now, you just try to handle business that's

1056
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 3: in your face and your presence right now.

1057
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 2: Make sure kids and.

1058
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:28,959
Speaker 3: Family is straight, household is good, and whatever whatever gonna

1059
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,760
Speaker 3: come gonna come. You know, when you know you you

1060
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 3: you when you know you're doing motherfucker's right. Uh, you

1061
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 3: don't really fear a lot of bullshit and a lot

1062
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 3: of mishaps to come on negativity, especially when you you know,

1063
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 3: you weed the negativity out, so from there you can

1064
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 3: try to just pace yourself. Like me, I don't like,

1065
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 3: is a nigga gonna call me next week to do

1066
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 3: a movie? I don't know, but I'm not tripping off

1067
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 3: that ship because I weigh Like you said, I wake

1068
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 3: up every day and I'm cool if I ain't gotta

1069
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 3: do a motherfucking thing today, but sit here and watch

1070
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 3: Sports Center all day. I'm straight.

1071
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't put myself in a position to go.

1072
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 3: God damn, I gotta You know what I'm saying, I

1073
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 3: gotta this, or or they doing that, or maybe I

1074
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 3: should try something.

1075
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1076
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 3: As long as I'm comfortable and I know like every

1077
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 3: those three aspects are good, and then what else can

1078
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 3: you control? You get me, it's either gonna happen or

1079
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 3: it ain't gonna happen. And I'm one of them type

1080
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 3: that I hate anticipate and shit, don't tell me about

1081
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 3: nothing either.

1082
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 2: It's gonna happen or it or it's not.

1083
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 5: You feel me, And I have a lot of faith

1084
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 5: in my action. You know, I know if I plant

1085
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 5: an apple seed today, at some day, I'm gonna be

1086
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 5: able to eat some apples. I don't know when that

1087
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 5: day gonna come, but I know that they gonna come

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00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 5: where I'm gonna be able.

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Speaker 4: To eat some apples.

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Speaker 5: And I'm cool with that, you know, I'm cool with

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00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 5: just watering it every day until that day come.

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Speaker 1: And you got a roster over there too, a good

1093
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 1: coming right now.

1094
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 4: I got some monsters. I got some monsters.

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00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 5: The whole team, not even just the artists, like the

1096
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 5: whole team. Every position is like the best in their field,

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00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 5: you know, like we really. Me and Tiea is both

1098
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 5: two kids from she can clear like I'm from Vale, California.

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00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 5: It's no infrastructure in either of those spots. It's not

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00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 5: a lot of successful people from either one. And we

1101
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 5: in rooms with Snoop showing him like, hey, this on

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00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 5: infrastructure and technology we built. You feel me like I

1103
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 5: got I got shakers all the way up the line.

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00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,919
Speaker 1: That's dope, man. You know what the next time y'all

1105
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: come down here, man, we want you to bring some

1106
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: of them, some of those spitters down here. Man. You know,

1107
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: me and them got a radio show we doing next year,

1108
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 1: Man twenty twenty five, and we want you all to

1109
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: come down and bus man let me know I might

1110
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: get the come on man. Man, I'm really glad man

1111
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: that you came down here to Man of Rock with us.

1112
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:51,439
Speaker 2: Man.

1113
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: When Nicole told me you was gonna do that, I said, yeah, Man, Yeah,

1114
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: it's on the popping man right there. Now. You know

1115
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a lot of people, Man that you

1116
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: inspired listening to this right now. What you got to

1117
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: say to them right now? Man, give them some words. Man.

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00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 3: It's a lot of artists who might not know the

1119
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 3: right path to take. Because dudes ask me all the

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00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 3: time up and coming artists. You know, I'm trying to,

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00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 3: you know, get my I'm trying to get my foot

1122
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,720
Speaker 3: in the door, you know what type. And I always

1123
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 3: tell dudes to try to connect where they're from, you know.

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00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 3: So you know, that's one of the advices I give

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00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 3: to artists coming up. Try to get to people where

1126
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 3: you're from, behind you in that aspect, the people who

1127
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 3: really believe in That's one of the things I try

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00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 3: to say the artists. So you know, we like to

1129
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 3: ask people. You know, what's that one thing that you

1130
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 3: would one advice that you would give to somebody, you know,

1131
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 3: starting from where you started. You know, if you see,

1132
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 3: you know this artist man, I used to do that,

1133
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 3: or I used to do that. You know, what's what's

1134
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 3: advice you would give them?

1135
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,919
Speaker 5: Be relentless. He who is willing is who will I'm

1136
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 5: really I'm independently major.

1137
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 2: You know.

1138
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 4: I get to use the same platform, same infrastructure.

1139
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 5: There's not too many there's a major artists that you

1140
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 5: know inside I said, they can't sell as many tickets

1141
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,879
Speaker 5: at me and haven't cultivated what I cultivated. And it's

1142
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 5: because I was willing to do whatever it took to

1143
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 5: get to where I.

1144
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 4: Wanted to get.

1145
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 5: I meet a lot of artists now who was like,

1146
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 5: oh but I don't want to post every day, but

1147
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 5: I don't want to shoot content like that. Oh but

1148
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 5: I don't want to do the interview. But I'd rather

1149
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 5: you feel me. And it's like, well, you don't want

1150
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 5: to win, you know, and if you don't want to

1151
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 5: do those things, and you got to be willing to

1152
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 5: find something that you is that you are willing to

1153
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 5: do to get there, and if that don't exist, then

1154
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 5: just keep complaining about the predicament and position. But me,

1155
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 5: it was like, I'm still to this day, you know,

1156
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 5: like I'm successful when I still go out, show up here,

1157
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 5: show up here, go do that. I'm gonna still show

1158
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 5: up and do my work because I want it.

1159
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 2: You know.

1160
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 5: Where I'm trying to get to is like I know

1161
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 5: there's a certain amount of work required to get to

1162
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 5: that point, and I'm willing to do every bit of it.

1163
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:24,760
Speaker 4: And if by the day.

1164
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 5: I'm not willing to do it, I don't expect to win,

1165
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 5: you know. And I think that's what's been missing. And

1166
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 5: today is like, because we get to witness people make

1167
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 5: it so fast, and it looks so fast to us,

1168
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 5: we try to replicate that, instead of replicating process, instead

1169
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 5: of doing everything they did to get there. We just

1170
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 5: want the result of them there.

1171
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 4: You feel me. And it's because we get to bear

1172
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 4: witness to it.

1173
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 5: We see people go viral one day and then their

1174
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 5: life change, and we're like, man, that's gonna happen for me.

1175
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 5: And it's like maybe if you want to on them odds,

1176
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 5: but if you don't want to have to rely on

1177
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 5: the maybe get your ass up every day and shoot

1178
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 5: and then you know like I don't.

1179
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 4: I don't.

1180
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 5: I don't really have a maybe in me like, man,

1181
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 5: I might make that's not a thing to me. It's

1182
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 5: like I know I'm gonna make it because I do

1183
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 5: it every day.

1184
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get up and go do it like that's

1185
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 3: that's just it. There's no Yeah, you gotta be willing.

1186
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 3: If you ain't willing, then ship, you might as well

1187
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 3: just go ahead and sit back and right.

1188
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 2: Try something else.

1189
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 1: Man, real, well, you'all heard the man right there, Get

1190
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: up off your ass and go do it. And on

1191
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: that note, Jill, we out here. Man, I appreciate it.

1192
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: Let's go get this. Let's go get these pictures.

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Speaker 4: This is great.

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Speaker 1: Well that concludes another episode of the Gainst the Chronicles podcast.

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Speaker 1: Chronicles podcast Norman still In m A. Tyler. Our visual

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