Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where the game is slowing down
Speaker 1: for us.
Speaker 2: We're halfway through the season. It's week nine. We're getting
Speaker 2: used to these recap shows.
Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal in the Chris Westling podcast studio with
Speaker 1: my friend Patrick Claybonn and joining us live from Cleveland
Speaker 1: Nick Shook.
Speaker 2: Nick done a little self scouting.
Speaker 1: I noticed sometimes when I'm starting this show, I didn't
Speaker 1: even get to Nick Shook because I'm so excited to
Speaker 1: get to the first highlight.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna get to you.
Speaker 1: Nick, give me one word to describe Week nine madness.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll take that.
Speaker 1: You know, because I didn't know what game to start
Speaker 1: with again, and then I thought, I know, ram Seahawks
Speaker 1: and Eagles Jaguars were not the biggest games of Week nine,
Speaker 1: and yet they were so freaking stupid and so freaking
Speaker 1: weird and dumb. I think we need to start with
Speaker 1: those two games. Let's go to Seattle.
Speaker 3: Ipher takes a snap second and six pot leg left side.
Speaker 3: He flips his ships, he fires, He's going deep. DeMarcus
Speaker 3: brought it in with one hand in the end zone
Speaker 3: for a walk off touchdown thirty nine yards.
Speaker 2: DeMarcus calls game.
Speaker 4: He sticks a right hand up, brings it in and
Speaker 4: pins it to his shoulder pad and LA gets out
Speaker 4: of the Pacific Northwest with a twenty six twenty overtime win.
Speaker 2: That was our friend JB.
Speaker 1: Long getting the NFL Daily Bump on his next game
Speaker 1: is KSPN. DeMarcus Robinson, Yeah, he only catches impossible, hugely
Speaker 1: influential passes from Matthew Stafford twenty six to twenty. The
Speaker 1: Rams win it in overtime, and Patrick, Yeah, this was
Speaker 1: this game was like some of those parties that Stefan
Speaker 1: would talk about on SNL back in the day. Maybe
Speaker 1: that's not a reference for everyone. That's an old refor
Speaker 1: It had every It had everything. It had interceptions, it
Speaker 1: had picked sixes, It had my numbing coaching decisions. It
Speaker 1: had moments where you thought both of these teams were
Speaker 1: out of it, but the quarterbacks just kept slinging and
Speaker 1: that's how it ended.
Speaker 5: It ed just like that in a game where if
Speaker 5: you're just watching and folks, I understand, there's only so
Speaker 5: many games you could take in. That was the late game,
Speaker 5: the last yes of the late game on Sunday before
Speaker 5: we got into Sunday Night Football. So a million eyes
Speaker 5: tuning in to see the fantastic finish. But this was
Speaker 5: a game greg that the Seattle Seahawks had won five
Speaker 5: times and then they went and lost it six times.
Speaker 5: There was like just to recap they had the woes
Speaker 5: in the red zone. Continued the struggle against the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 5: They had two turnovers in the second half in the
Speaker 5: red zone. One camera Kitchens takes back one hundred and
Speaker 5: three yard pick six where Gino is trying to make
Speaker 5: a late throw to Jackson Smith and jigb But who
Speaker 5: had a great game by the way, on the back
Speaker 5: of the so gets hit as he throws. The rookie
Speaker 5: takes it for the longest play in the NFL this season,
Speaker 5: all the way back and then later Cody White blocks
Speaker 5: a punt and the Seahawks are right back in position.
Speaker 5: Geno's trying to throw a tight end late release play
Speaker 5: kind of throws it blind winds up going as as
Speaker 5: the tight end gets held up in the line.
Speaker 1: Was absolutely held on that play. He was held on
Speaker 1: the play. He was help got to defend my guy, Gina.
Speaker 5: And that's one of those things where, along with all
Speaker 5: the other stuff that you talked about, that happened in
Speaker 5: this game. There was officiating that perhaps some people feel
Speaker 5: a type of way about the way things were officiating
Speaker 5: in those moments. But so that pass gets picked off
Speaker 5: by Cameron Kitchens again. But then the clock takes down
Speaker 5: to Geno time and we're inside of a minute at
Speaker 5: the end of a quarter, and once again Gino Smith
Speaker 5: delivers to Jackson Smith and Jigba who had over one
Speaker 5: hundred and sixty yards receiving in this game. But in
Speaker 5: overtime at fourth and one, Greg the Seahawks with an opportunity.
Speaker 5: I thought it was a go decision. Mike McDonald thought
Speaker 5: it was a go decison. The Rams got to stop
Speaker 5: there leads to that Matthew Stafford touchdown. Just a great
Speaker 5: game in a division where everybody's only separated by one game.
Speaker 1: Right, And that's that's why I don't think it's crazy
Speaker 1: to start with it, because these are these aren't teams
Speaker 1: that are probably going to the super Bowl, but they
Speaker 1: are two teams with good quarterbacks, two quarterbacks and quarterback
Speaker 1: on that are in the mix for the playoffs, and
Speaker 1: they would be a dangerous opponent. And just everything that
Speaker 1: happened in this game is crazy let's actually start at
Speaker 1: that decision. I don't mind that decision at all. And
Speaker 1: one of the reasons I don't mind that decision, Nick,
Speaker 1: is because three points doesn't necessarily win the game for you. Anyways,
Speaker 1: this game was crazy enough. I do think it's okay
Speaker 1: to look at the Seattle offensive line and say third
Speaker 1: and one walker, no gain, fourth and one Walker, no gain,
Speaker 1: and say like, we're just not good enough. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe you would like a different play call where you
Speaker 1: throw the ball or it's a snake or something like that,
Speaker 1: or you want a fiel go. But if you can't
Speaker 1: pick up a yard on the Los Angeles Rams, and
Speaker 1: they're their defense is getting better, but it's in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four, they're okay to run against. If you can't
Speaker 1: pick up a yard, maybe you don't deserve to win.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: That's the beauty of football, is that in those clutch moments,
Speaker 6: when it's just a short yarage situation, it's man on man,
Speaker 6: it's strength versus strength or relative strength. Who is the
Speaker 6: better team that's going to be able to deliver it?
Speaker 6: And if you can't earn it, you don't deserve it.
Speaker 6: And the Seahawks didn't deserve it. But Greg, you don't
Speaker 6: have to defend Gino. He defended himself despite the three
Speaker 6: interceptions that he threw in this game. With that last drive,
Speaker 6: he threw two downs to Jack and Smith and Jigba.
Speaker 6: I was so happy to see JSN finally break out
Speaker 6: and make a couple of huge catches and they end
Speaker 6: up getting to overtime because of him. What a back
Speaker 6: and forth game in a division that is completely wide open.
Speaker 7: The game ends, the.
Speaker 6: Rams go to four and four, the Seahawks four and
Speaker 6: fives records listed below the score on the screen, and
Speaker 6: I'm just sitting there thinking, one of these wins feels triumphant.
Speaker 6: And that's for Sean McVay, who's spread across the field
Speaker 6: to hug Matthew Stafford and say great job, because he's
Speaker 6: all fired up because they've dug themselves out of the
Speaker 6: hole they were in. And the Seahawks they got to
Speaker 6: feel crushed by the fact that they lost this game
Speaker 6: for the same reason that Patrick just said. They wanted
Speaker 6: a number of times lost at a number of times.
Speaker 1: Okay, one of those times was actually, I believe either
Speaker 1: the very next play or two plays after the fourth
Speaker 1: down stop in overtime where Wolan Reke Wollan has a
Speaker 1: chance to intercept it if he just steps into the pass,
Speaker 1: and instead I believe it was Tyler Johnson who made
Speaker 1: the nice play stepping in front of him, but that
Speaker 1: could have been an interception, and then Wolan is the
Speaker 1: guy who gets beat. Another thing that happened in this
Speaker 1: game an injection Puka and Akua getting injected. Did not
Speaker 1: expect that a young man named Kobe White, Cody White.
Speaker 1: Kobe White is the player around the Bulls who mina times.
Speaker 2: My friend was as.
Speaker 1: Big as Seahawks fan, as as anyone out There's like,
Speaker 1: I was not familiar with this Cody White fella who
Speaker 1: ends up playing a big role in the game, having
Speaker 1: two catches and a big blocked punt. I mean that
Speaker 1: the end of the first half was absolutely nuts, where yeah,
Speaker 1: Gino had those ugly interceptions but also made some incredible throws.
Speaker 1: The end of the first half sequence where the Seahawks
Speaker 1: somehow scored a couple touchdowns in that sequence and Stafford
Speaker 1: had a mind numbing in there was.
Speaker 2: Like, I don't know, this game was everything.
Speaker 5: Just it took me back to the end of the
Speaker 5: first half against the Falcons where there's a limited amount
Speaker 5: of time on the clock for Gino, and it's kind
Speaker 5: of Gino with nothing to lose, throwing the ball in
Speaker 5: the middle of the field is the most dangerous. It's
Speaker 5: like a it's like a cornered animal protecting its young
Speaker 5: and Gino like, I'm designating that Geno time towards the
Speaker 5: end of a half where he can just fire away
Speaker 5: free from concern about the consequences, which apparently he's doing
Speaker 5: in the red zone anyway. And so he goes down
Speaker 5: scores a touchdown. The Rams, perhaps not necessarily thinking about
Speaker 5: the clock or opportunity to give, they get the ball
Speaker 5: right back to Gino and with five seconds on the clock.
Speaker 5: It makes me think it was eleven seconds against the Falcons.
Speaker 5: Five seconds on the clock. He hits Jackson Smith and
Speaker 5: jig but down the.
Speaker 2: Middle right and that was a total dime.
Speaker 1: It this game, like you look at it, you think
Speaker 1: the defenses didn't play that well, and yet the Rams
Speaker 1: had the ball six times in the first half and
Speaker 1: they scored three points on offense. The Seahawks had it
Speaker 1: if you can out the neil down, which you shouldn't,
Speaker 1: so taken that away. They had fourteen possessions in this game.
Speaker 1: So actually I saw a lot of Jared. You know,
Speaker 1: Jared Versus just been fantastic. Fiscus turned into a real player.
Speaker 1: Kobe Turner has a nice game. Byron Young is very active,
Speaker 1: and this offensive line for the Seahawks, we keep coming
Speaker 1: back to. It is just like the one thing they
Speaker 1: can't quite get over. So that these teams are improving
Speaker 1: in ways that are surprising, Like the Seahawks, I think
Speaker 1: had a good defensive day, but you can't feel that
Speaker 1: good when you ultimately give up that play at the
Speaker 1: end in Pukina Ku is not even on the field, no, And.
Speaker 6: It sucks because you know, we got the full thrills
Speaker 6: of the Gino coaster throughout this game, and the fact
Speaker 6: that they even got to overtime felt like an accomplishment.
Speaker 6: But once they got stopped on fourth down, he felt
Speaker 6: the tide shift. It felt like we had. It's like
Speaker 6: one of those games where possessions and leads change over
Speaker 6: and over like a basketball game, except it was a
Speaker 6: football game. And at the end Stafford delivers. And again
Speaker 6: we could point to this last week. We pointed this
Speaker 6: again tonight. The beauty of this Rams team even though
Speaker 6: they only finished, you know, with twenty six points with
Speaker 6: an overtime touchdown to send him to victory. They are
Speaker 6: so much better offensively with guys like Cooper Cup and
Speaker 6: though Pooka got ejected in that lineup, it just opens
Speaker 6: up the offense so much more. And Stafford has taken
Speaker 6: such a jump from where he was a couple of
Speaker 6: weeks ago just trying hard to will them to victory.
Speaker 6: Now he's got weapons and now he's gonna sling it.
Speaker 6: He gets one on one DeMarcus Robinson gets a free
Speaker 6: release over Tariq Woollen, and next thing you know, they're
Speaker 6: scoring a touchdown with a spectacular catch. It was then
Speaker 6: fitting end for a game like that and a great
Speaker 6: way to start the show.
Speaker 5: It reminded me a little bit of the Super Bowl
Speaker 5: Greg where you see it early on and with the
Speaker 5: compliment at that point it was Odell and Cooper Cup
Speaker 5: that the Rams were a real problem. But then Odell
Speaker 5: goes down in the Super Bowl, they have trouble moving
Speaker 5: the ball. Pooka gets ejected from this game, and it stops,
Speaker 5: stop stop. This Seattle defense that could not get off
Speaker 5: the field in previous weeks, was able to chain together
Speaker 5: those stops, but it happens to come where their offense
Speaker 5: is self destructing in the red zone. Yet it's in
Speaker 5: Mike McDonald saying they do have the pieces after the game,
Speaker 5: I agree with him. They just got to put it together.
Speaker 5: He said of the fourth day, you have to get
Speaker 5: a half yard in two plays, was his reaction, which
Speaker 5: which is a common sense thing. It makes sense to
Speaker 5: go for that there. Kenneth Walker was running well on
Speaker 5: that drive. Just the the Rams stepped up, made plays
Speaker 5: and over times the Seahawks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, JSN gets seven for one and two touchdowns. The
Speaker 1: two teams combined for two for seven in the red zone.
Speaker 1: Rams struggle a little bit too.
Speaker 5: JSN also had seventy three I believe receiving yards called
Speaker 5: back due to penalties in this game, a game where
Speaker 5: where Gino Smith got the Rams to jump all sides,
Speaker 5: five tomes. It had everything. If you did not watch
Speaker 5: this game, I.
Speaker 2: Think there was four and one win.
Speaker 1: One drive that was at the end of the first
Speaker 1: half where he just kept happening over. Yeah, Gino go
Speaker 1: ends up going three to sixty three and three on
Speaker 1: a day that he has three interceptions. The difference, though,
Speaker 1: I do think it's this young Rams defensive line. Eleven
Speaker 1: quarterback hits seven sacks of Gino Smith on the day.
Speaker 1: This NFC Way West race is going to be wild
Speaker 1: all season. I'm looking forward to also going to be
Speaker 1: a good race in the NFC East this year.
Speaker 2: That's just two teams. Let's go to Philadelphia.
Speaker 8: It is first to ten o the thirteen. Jacksonville trails
Speaker 8: by five thirds. Living and the good Lawrence Lawrence Beck.
Speaker 8: Lawrence looks firing for the end zone.
Speaker 5: Intercepting, intercepting the game. He picks it off of the
Speaker 5: end zone.
Speaker 7: Don't fudge, he go to cover skit.
Speaker 2: The Kobe Dean is back, like the one from college.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been playing great the last three weeks.
Speaker 1: The Kobe Deanon coverage one on one. Hey, hey, game
Speaker 1: on the line. You want to run some clock? Why
Speaker 1: not throw up a jump ball to de Ernest Johnson?
Speaker 5: What like?
Speaker 2: This game was.
Speaker 1: Lost by the Eagles fifteen different times. There's gonna be
Speaker 1: one of the worst losses of the season. And yet
Speaker 1: Nakobe Dean saves his coach, Nick Sirianni. They get to
Speaker 1: win twenty eight to twenty three. Nick Chook, start wherever
Speaker 1: you want in this game because there's a lot of
Speaker 1: directions to go.
Speaker 7: Oh, I would love to take Nick Sirianny to task.
Speaker 6: But they talked a lot on the broadcast about how
Speaker 6: Sirianni offered up his parking spot to anybody who can
Speaker 6: get a takeaway that changed the game. Well, guess what,
Speaker 6: your parking spot now belongs to Nakobe Dean because he
Speaker 6: just bailed you out, my friend. They made a number
Speaker 6: of decisions in this game that not only made me
Speaker 6: scratch my head, it made me want to just explode
Speaker 6: with rage because Sirianni, he's cruising, his team is cooking.
Speaker 6: They're up twenty two to nothing, and that's after they
Speaker 6: scored to go up sixteen to nothing. They try for
Speaker 6: two because he's getting aggressive. They try to get him
Speaker 6: a jump, They don't jump. He calls a timeout. They
Speaker 6: go for two. Tush push denied. They do it again,
Speaker 6: denied again on the next touchdown, leaving two points out
Speaker 6: there on the field.
Speaker 7: It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: It was a touch push again. It was a touch
Speaker 2: push again. To point it out, it's what push.
Speaker 6: Two touch pushes denied. It was denied so firmly that
Speaker 6: when they meet a fourth in inches in the second half,
Speaker 6: when the Jaguars have finally woken up and they're mounting
Speaker 6: a comeback.
Speaker 7: It's fourth inches and he calls a play action roll.
Speaker 6: Out to the right because he's been scared off of
Speaker 6: the toush push by the Jacksonville defense. That one also
Speaker 6: fails a number of decisions in this game Sirianni made
Speaker 6: that gave the They cracked the door open for the
Speaker 6: Jaguars to come back, and they almost sprint it right
Speaker 6: through it, except Doug Peterson, in a battle of which
Speaker 6: Nakochi replaced him in Philadelphia, decides to surrender on fourth
Speaker 6: and three from the Philadelphia forty nine. That gives the
Speaker 6: Eagles a chance to tack on points. DeVante Smith makes
Speaker 6: a fantastic one handed catch to score a touchdown. They
Speaker 6: go up by twelve. The Jaguars mount to come back again,
Speaker 6: and then it ends in heartbreak by targeting a running
Speaker 6: back who is not a pass catcher. I understand the
Speaker 6: situation there, and you think you have a mismatch with
Speaker 6: Nakobe Dean, Will Trevor Lawrence just learned Nacobe Dean is
Speaker 6: no mismatch against the running back, especially in a key situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Doug Peterson, to me, the thing that was
Speaker 1: missedify not just that Trevor looked like he predetermined, like, hey,
Speaker 1: I got one on one on the outside, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna go to it no matter what I see in
Speaker 1: terms of the leverage, no matter the matchup either because
Speaker 1: I know, no, Kobe Dean's not great in coverage on
Speaker 1: the outside, but it's also Deerness Johnson.
Speaker 2: But the weird thing is that they're even throwing that ball.
Speaker 1: Anyways, They asked Doug Peterson after the game, like, did
Speaker 1: you think about trying to run clock a little more
Speaker 1: because that's one forty three left in the game and
Speaker 1: you don't want to leave Philadelphia all the time in
Speaker 1: the world necessarily so even going and he just said, well,
Speaker 1: it is something that we discussed, but we decided we
Speaker 1: had to get points and points were the most important thing. Well,
Speaker 1: you didn't get the points. You didn't you didn't get
Speaker 1: the wins. He didn't run the clock. It didn't make
Speaker 1: any sense.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a questionable thing to consider because I know
Speaker 5: that Travis Etn and Tank Bakesby didn't have a great
Speaker 5: game on the ground, But twenty four and twenty two
Speaker 5: yards respectively. But you know, Dearness Johnson's in the game,
Speaker 5: I guess you could give the ball to Darnis Johnson.
Speaker 5: Trevor had a rushing touchdown as well. It's it's so
Speaker 5: easy to find these moments with the Jacksonville Jaguars in
Speaker 5: twenty twenty four. Yeah, just categorically, and we could have
Speaker 5: the converse say about the Eagles. They they tried the
Speaker 5: Jags here, but you can't out Jags the twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Two ooh yeah.
Speaker 6: And that's that's what was on my mind as this
Speaker 6: game ended, was what's sports talk radio gonna be like
Speaker 6: in these cities tomorrow?
Speaker 7: Because I know what it's gonna be like.
Speaker 6: In Philly, they're gonna be taking Siriannie to task and
Speaker 6: saying that he almost lost in the game and he
Speaker 6: should be fired and everything else. Understandably so in some respects,
Speaker 6: and then in Jacksonville it's gonna be why are you
Speaker 6: targeting Dearness Johnson when you have Evan Ingram on the
Speaker 6: field who made a big difference in the second half.
Speaker 6: You have Brian Thomas, you have Parker Washington. This guy
Speaker 6: should be like seventh on your list. Both of these
Speaker 6: coaches deserve criticism for the way this game played out for.
Speaker 1: Sure, right and you know Trevor had another interception in
Speaker 1: this game. I think it was It was the perfect
Speaker 1: the Eagles game because of what you just said, Nick Sirianni.
Speaker 2: I mentioned it on NFL Daily last week.
Speaker 1: He's been the main character of every single week and
Speaker 1: he finally had a week where he wasn't. Everyone was
Speaker 1: just like kind of cool of him. And it's always
Speaker 1: after win like it's almost always after wins too, and
Speaker 1: he's just like, I gotta geg back in on this.
Speaker 1: And there was one moment that to me really defined it. Takuan,
Speaker 1: who ends up going twenty seven for one point fifty
Speaker 1: nine and a touchdown on the ground, also had a
Speaker 1: forty yard day through the air and another touchdown.
Speaker 2: There just a ridiculous player.
Speaker 1: We might need to start talking about him as an
Speaker 1: MVP candidate if we if we're allowed to go non quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: He doesn't get the ball in any of those two
Speaker 1: point situations or the fourth an inches situation either, which
Speaker 1: is absolutely crazy to me. But after they called the
Speaker 1: draw and I think it was third and goal from
Speaker 1: the seventeen something like that, and Saquon hit it for
Speaker 1: a touchdown.
Speaker 2: It's a nineteen yard touchdown.
Speaker 1: Sirianni starts celebrating and running down the sideline like they
Speaker 1: just won the Super Bowl. He is completely losing his heads.
Speaker 1: Him and Kellen Moore is going absolutely crazy. And to
Speaker 1: be like to make a real point about it, there
Speaker 1: maybe is something too like taking on the personality of
Speaker 1: your coach, like he is too up and now he
Speaker 1: he almost he just seems like he totally lost his
Speaker 1: mind there for twenty seconds and then he's like two two,
Speaker 1: I gotta go for two. That's before one of those
Speaker 1: twos in this team scene, like as up.
Speaker 2: And down as Nick. Sirianni Knick sub you're not You're
Speaker 2: very even keel.
Speaker 7: No, No, I'm very even keeling.
Speaker 6: When I watched that coach, he coaches like he's worried
Speaker 6: about what people are thinking about him all the time.
Speaker 6: He coaches like I'm always trying to prove a point,
Speaker 6: whether it's that I'm good enough to coach or that
Speaker 6: we're good enough as a football team.
Speaker 7: And for a half, they were the better team by far.
Speaker 7: They should have cruised to victory in this game, and
Speaker 7: they left the door open because of what their coach did. Now,
Speaker 7: let's not overlook the fact. Greg.
Speaker 6: By the way, you mentioned that Trevor threw another pick,
Speaker 6: Let's talk about the bonfire because it was Zach Bond
Speaker 6: making the pick. Zach Bond in coverage, having a great season,
Speaker 6: made a great play. This is a good football team
Speaker 6: if their coach can just get the hell out of
Speaker 6: the way.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm glad you pointed that out because I
Speaker 1: made some snarky tweets about this just how fun. This
Speaker 1: was the perfect Eagles game. And someone responded like, is
Speaker 1: this the most dead in the water, you know, team
Speaker 1: with this kind of record in NFL history? And I say, like,
Speaker 1: no way, They've got way too many good players. That's
Speaker 1: the thing is, they're like they had a couple of
Speaker 1: the best plays in the entire season because because their
Speaker 1: players are just better than other players.
Speaker 2: Let's listen to I don't even know which one to pick.
Speaker 1: How about the Saquon spin move and backwards hurdle.
Speaker 8: Hurts in the gun, he back pedals, he's looking, still looking.
Speaker 8: He fires it out in the flat to Barkley, who
Speaker 8: beats one man, spins past another, leaps.
Speaker 5: Up a third who was knocked down.
Speaker 2: At thirty What was that?
Speaker 9: I've never seen that move and I've been watching football
Speaker 9: all my life.
Speaker 8: Well he did this, he did to show off the
Speaker 8: shady McCord.
Speaker 5: He's never done this, No one's ever done this.
Speaker 10: He he knows the guy backwards took over a guy backwards.
Speaker 2: He did that. Like the ovation in the crowd.
Speaker 1: You could hear it when they finally saw the replay,
Speaker 1: like that is that's a sight to be whold beside.
Speaker 6: They lost their mind, guys, and understandably, so you're right,
Speaker 6: you'll you never see that in football. Like everybody was like,
Speaker 6: all right, what do you compare that? It immediately blows
Speaker 6: up on social media. Right in my head, I'm thinking,
Speaker 6: he looks like you're playing Super Mario on Nintendo and
Speaker 6: you're trying to take down one of the people that
Speaker 6: are trying to come out as Super or Koopa, true
Speaker 6: but whatever it is, and you gotta jump backward because
Speaker 6: you're headed in the wrong direction just to knock him out.
Speaker 2: It was like that.
Speaker 7: It was incredible. It defied the laws of physics.
Speaker 5: Now and this is the play. Folks are like, hey,
Speaker 5: what was Saquon Barkley? Like you pull up this play
Speaker 5: and say, nobody ever saw that. We probably will never
Speaker 5: see that again. Because he just completed a spin move,
Speaker 5: he feels like he has the leverage to do another
Speaker 5: spin move. Mid spin, he realizes the defender is going
Speaker 5: low and he jumps without seeing him. Like nobody is
Speaker 5: doing that. Nobody has the physical capacity to make that decision,
Speaker 5: as well as the awareness to do all of it
Speaker 5: and then the flexibility to complete it. It's just I
Speaker 5: mean and four whatever.
Speaker 1: Right in every so he's he's running better than he's
Speaker 1: ever run before. Jalen Hurts, I swear the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks is running better than he's run in a while.
Speaker 1: He gets sixty seven yards in this game on the
Speaker 1: ground and just looks.
Speaker 2: Fast as hell.
Speaker 1: And as great as that Saquon play is, I don't
Speaker 1: know for sure that it was the best football play
Speaker 1: in this game. Let's go back to Merril Reese.
Speaker 8: Hurts and that's the backfield kakaa emotional kaka terra boost
Speaker 8: was right here Goes Hurts.
Speaker 5: Going for the end zone.
Speaker 8: Davonte Smith, he caught it.
Speaker 2: I don't know, he's.
Speaker 7: One hell.
Speaker 2: I don't know how he did it.
Speaker 7: I don't know how we didn't. I don't know how
Speaker 7: he did it.
Speaker 2: That stay of.
Speaker 3: Smittyest unbelievable, the slim Reaper with one of the best
Speaker 3: plays of the year by any receiver.
Speaker 1: That's my quick and Meryl Reese, by the way, they
Speaker 1: almost undersold that that.
Speaker 2: First of all, I was getting annoyed at.
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts on that throat because like Jalen Hurts on
Speaker 1: a third and twenty two, God love him, He'll never
Speaker 1: take that fifteen yards to try to make the field
Speaker 1: goal closer. He's just throwing that thing and I didn't
Speaker 1: think that had any chance. And DeVonta Smith, who leads
Speaker 1: the league in like like, just how impressed I am
Speaker 1: over expected because compared to his numbers, he's just such
Speaker 1: an amazing football player to pull that off one hand
Speaker 1: and get his shin down at full speed. It was
Speaker 1: just like, these guys are too good, nick for me
Speaker 1: to discount them. Jalen Hurts had four throws over twenty
Speaker 1: yards in this game too. Han Dotson at a thirty
Speaker 1: six yard play.
Speaker 7: Like another great catch, Like.
Speaker 2: I'm just not I'm giving this team a chance despite
Speaker 2: their head coach.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, to use a commonly used phrase on
Speaker 6: social media again usually in regards to Justin Jefferson fit
Speaker 6: DeVante Smith down there somewhere, because that's why Jalen threw
Speaker 6: that ball the way he did. He knew that one
Speaker 6: guy down there is gonna be able to make that play.
Speaker 6: Mind you, this is after they lost aj Brown, who
Speaker 6: exist the game, and he's gonna.
Speaker 7: Screw it third and long.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna throw it down there anyway, And at that
Speaker 6: moment I went, wow, he just build Sirianni out and
Speaker 6: then again he needed to Kobe Dean at the end.
Speaker 6: It was a full team effort to win this game
Speaker 6: when many of the odds were stacked against them, sometimes
Speaker 6: by their own head coach. It was a spectacular catch,
Speaker 6: but I am gonna throw some cold water on it, okay,
Speaker 6: because we saw one of the best catches I've seen
Speaker 6: in my life on Monday Night football last week with
Speaker 6: the Jets.
Speaker 7: Right, Oh no, it was Thursday night football.
Speaker 5: Excuse me? With the Jets.
Speaker 6: That Garrett Wilson catch was still better than Devantie. Let's
Speaker 6: not put them in the same category. They're both great,
Speaker 6: but one's better than the.
Speaker 2: Ill put them in the same category. But I'll give
Speaker 2: the edge to Garrett.
Speaker 5: In terms of the margins for error, I feel like
Speaker 5: DeVante had a smaller margin of error. Yes, just what
Speaker 5: the direction he was going in the speed right a
Speaker 5: little bit there, But the spectacularness of the particular grab.
Speaker 5: It's one of those things. Why put bad beeps against
Speaker 5: each other?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're kind of thing. We're comparing brands here. These
Speaker 1: things are works of art. But that was a classics
Speaker 1: sort of Devanta catch because even then, I feel like
Speaker 1: like you don't even know how how hard that catch was.
Speaker 1: And yes, AJ Brown out with a knee injury.
Speaker 2: That's huge.
Speaker 1: They won this game without a j Brown, without their
Speaker 1: left tackle, without Dallas Goddard. They need to they need
Speaker 1: to get healthy that that'll be a big thing for
Speaker 1: them moving forward. Jaguars stuck at two and seven. Let's
Speaker 1: go to game that would have been more likely to
Speaker 1: start the show before the craziness late.
Speaker 2: How about a great game up in Orchard Park.
Speaker 8: It's gonna be a sixty one yarder from the left
Speaker 8: hash with ten seconds remain.
Speaker 11: Slap by Ferguson, hold by Martin, kick by Bass is
Speaker 11: long enough.
Speaker 12: And it is good bombs away for Tyler Bass, who
Speaker 12: bombs it from sixty one.
Speaker 2: It's a career best for the Bills kicker. Unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Tyler Bass missed the kick earlier in the game, doinked
Speaker 1: one on an extra point which went in.
Speaker 2: Ended up being a big play. Hits it from sixty
Speaker 2: one to cap a great.
Speaker 1: Offensive, back and forth shootout in the second half, and
Speaker 1: maybe a game that all but puts the AFC East away. Yes,
Speaker 1: the Bills are seven and two, they're up four games
Speaker 1: on the Jets, went three and a half, four and
Speaker 1: a half on the Dolphins who are at two and six.
Speaker 1: And we could talk about the kick, but I want
Speaker 1: to talk about Josh Allen. This is the best version
Speaker 1: of Josh Allen that we've ever seen. Maybe playoff Josh
Speaker 1: Allen a couple of years ago when they lost to
Speaker 1: the Chiefs is close. But this is the best version
Speaker 1: of Josh Allen we've ever seen because it's repeatable. Here's
Speaker 1: what he was going against today, did not have Amari
Speaker 1: Cooper going into the day. He threw an interception on
Speaker 1: the goal line that was a perfect throw right into
Speaker 1: Keon Coleman's bread basket. A great audible that showed he
Speaker 1: made a really good decision. It pops up from Keon
Speaker 1: Coleman and goes in the air, intercepted by Jalen Ramsey.
Speaker 1: He fought against two bogus holding calls that took away
Speaker 1: a Bill's drive. One of them was a beautiful rushing
Speaker 1: touchdown by Josh Allen. It was a total phantom call,
Speaker 1: one of the worst holding calls of the year. He
Speaker 1: beats a free rusher on that play to score. The
Speaker 1: defense basically only got two stops all day, the first
Speaker 1: possession of the game and a fumble to start the
Speaker 1: second half when they were down. That one possession was
Speaker 1: all he needed to win this game. They finished the
Speaker 1: game touchdown, touchdown, touchdown. Then gets the ball back with
Speaker 1: one thirty eight to go, get some in field goal
Speaker 1: range for Tyler Bass to hit that kick. And it's
Speaker 1: because it's mostly his decision making in this game. There
Speaker 1: were some spectacular plays, but it was mostly the Dolphins
Speaker 1: dropping back in zone and saying, can you be patient?
Speaker 1: Can you just keep taking what's there for you? Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: and he did it to this whole gang receivers. He
Speaker 1: ignored the pass rush when he was there. He's just
Speaker 1: playing football at a different level and on a day
Speaker 1: where he didn't get much help at least from his
Speaker 1: defense and from the officials.
Speaker 2: He gets it done and gets them to win.
Speaker 5: Get some help from the receiving group, including the running
Speaker 5: backs their Ray Davis had seventy yards after the catch.
Speaker 5: Khalil Sekuir, who the Dolphins could not tackle today, had
Speaker 5: fifty nine yards after the catch, including several broken tackles
Speaker 5: on just swing out screens. James Cook goes twenty five
Speaker 5: after the catch. And this like that fumble that you
Speaker 5: mentioned that Ron Johnson punched the ball away from Raheem
Speaker 5: Mostert that that feels like you look at the defense
Speaker 5: on the defense made have played to win. Yeah, that
Speaker 5: was really it. That was really it. Tua and dvon
Speaker 5: Chan and the Dolphins going up and down the field.
Speaker 5: Tyreek Hill back after getting nothing, no targets until late
Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter, Jalen Waddle catches his first and
Speaker 5: then he catches the touchdown. It was good to see
Speaker 5: this Dolphins offense back, but even at their maximum potential,
Speaker 5: they couldn't contend with Josh Allen maybe getting into that MVP.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Tua has to feel better and Dolphins
Speaker 1: fans have to feel better about their offense, not their defense.
Speaker 1: But just while we're still on Buffalo, I'm glad you
Speaker 1: mentioned all those yards after the catch. That's one of
Speaker 1: the reasons why I give Alan so much credit because
Speaker 1: we know he can win the other kind of way,
Speaker 1: and he did. His touchdown throw at Quinton Morris was
Speaker 1: classic Josh Allen where he's throwing blind while getting totally tackled.
Speaker 1: It seemed like the play was over and he somehow
Speaker 1: finds Quinton Morris. I don't know if he's a thrown
Speaker 1: in a spot, if he's thrown in the air like
Speaker 1: that's Josh Allen. But all those yards after the catch
Speaker 1: Dick was because the ball was in a perfect spot.
Speaker 1: Like I can think of a third down clearly early
Speaker 1: in the game where if he throws it to where
Speaker 1: Shakira is going, he's going to get tackled, and he
Speaker 1: turns Shakira around with the ball perfect location. He's so
Speaker 1: accurate now, and then he gets the yak after the throw.
Speaker 1: So I just just next level quarterbacking from a dude
Speaker 1: that it's going to be very tough to beat this year.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know, and hearing this it makes me
Speaker 6: think about another team that we talk about and it
Speaker 6: really makes me think about it. An elite group of
Speaker 6: quarterbacks and the other team and the other quarterback it's
Speaker 6: Kansas City and Patrick Mahomes. They don't win pretty, but
Speaker 6: he's really good at extending plays, finding guys open. None
Speaker 6: of it looks really in structure. Most of it's out
Speaker 6: of structures improvisation. That is Josh Allen's game. And that's
Speaker 6: why when you speak about that throw to Quentin Morris,
Speaker 6: it's exactly that he's one of very few who can
Speaker 6: make that happen consistently in what elevates this team. Because
Speaker 6: the Bills have looked like four different teams and they've
Speaker 6: won games of year. They look like an explosive offense,
Speaker 6: they can throw the ball over the yard, they look
Speaker 6: like a great ground team, they look like a team
Speaker 6: that's won close, and they've looked like the team like
Speaker 6: they were today, and it really makes them difficult to
Speaker 6: project but also really frustrating to play, especially for a
Speaker 6: team like the Dolphins who look I don't usually feel
Speaker 6: bad about Miami fans because you're in Miami glitz and glamour.
Speaker 7: Everything else, well, it's.
Speaker 6: Nice, but the Dolphins have lost two legitimate heartbreakers in
Speaker 6: the last two weeks, and this week they played well
Speaker 6: enough to win. For the most part, they played well
Speaker 6: enough offensively that Buffalo couldn't get stops. I mean Tuego's
Speaker 6: twenty five to twenty eight for two thirty one moster
Speaker 6: are in eight chan combined for one hundred and nineteen
Speaker 6: yards on the ground, Like that.
Speaker 7: Should be good enough to win.
Speaker 6: And yet they're two and six because they get beat
Speaker 6: by teams with quarterbacks who find ways to win or
Speaker 6: find ways to put them in position to win with
Speaker 6: kickers hitting game winning field goals. So a rough stretch
Speaker 6: in what's been a rough season for the Dolphins. That, yeah,
Speaker 6: two and six, You're like, well, I mean, there goes
Speaker 6: the AFC East. We're now opposite records essentially with the
Speaker 6: Bills who just beat us in their place.
Speaker 7: Now we got to scrap for a wildcard spot.
Speaker 6: But again the Bills showing why they're one of the
Speaker 6: teams that you have to take seriously in the AFC
Speaker 6: because they can win in a number of different ways.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Dolphins, I'm not totally ruling them out from
Speaker 1: making a run because offense travels, their schedule isn't easy
Speaker 1: to try to rip off that sort of run and
Speaker 1: get into the wildcard race. But you could see it
Speaker 1: because yeah, two was awesome in this game, and like
Speaker 1: it just looked like the two that you expect to see.
Speaker 2: The running game has been good now for three straight weeks.
Speaker 1: But they have zero pass rush, and like that's you know,
Speaker 1: that's a huge mismatch. In some of these games, including
Speaker 1: this one, they just don't have a pass rush. They're
Speaker 1: trying to get Chop Robinson going. They're also four and
Speaker 1: ten in their last fourteen games as an organization, so
Speaker 1: and they're a team that's spending a lot of money.
Speaker 1: They're one of the most expensive teams. This is year
Speaker 1: three of the program. So on one hand, you give
Speaker 1: them a little bit of a pass because Tua got hurt.
Speaker 1: On the other hand, it's a disappointment that's going to
Speaker 1: be tough to get out of. Their best defensive player
Speaker 1: is Kalayis Campbell, like a thirty nine year old on
Speaker 1: a one year deal, So they have issues.
Speaker 2: But Tua was legitimately great.
Speaker 1: He had a third and seven throw with two thirty
Speaker 1: left in this game where just the smallest of windows
Speaker 1: that he has to hit wattle and he hits Wattle.
Speaker 1: There's a fourth and two play where they had to
Speaker 1: score to keep the game alive, and he's diving head
Speaker 1: first and making everyone have their heart and their throats,
Speaker 1: but he gets it done. They had to keep scoring
Speaker 1: touchdown after touchdown to keep up with the Bills in
Speaker 1: this game, and then they did it, and they just
Speaker 1: left Josh Allen too much time. Let's listen to what
Speaker 1: happened after the too much time Josh Allen given his
Speaker 1: kick or some love.
Speaker 2: One of his longtime teammates.
Speaker 13: Got emotional on my little postgame speech out there, just
Speaker 13: the child and tribulations that he's been throughout this year,
Speaker 13: obviously missing one early in the day, hitting the poll
Speaker 13: on another. You know, he could easually put it in
Speaker 13: the tank and sixty one yard field go to win
Speaker 13: a game against the division rival. That's what stories are
Speaker 13: made of. And I love him. I respect him so much.
Speaker 13: Everybody in that locker rooms so happy for him, and
Speaker 13: he's our guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, big time kick by Tyler Bass on a day,
Speaker 1: Like I said, that started in a way you just
Speaker 1: thought it was going against him. They got it turned around.
Speaker 1: They're one of the best teams in the NFL. My
Speaker 1: Super Bowl pick from the AFC. Let's go to Green
Speaker 1: Bay where my pick from the NFC was playing on
Speaker 1: the road.
Speaker 14: Second down into Green Bay from their own thirty eight,
Speaker 14: Love takes the shotgun Snap Lions print of late Glicks.
Speaker 5: Love back looking being Chase Love.
Speaker 15: Rob look up the line, Krooby Josaph puts up, He's
Speaker 15: gonna go baby, cut it down five and.
Speaker 7: So touch down and Troy Lions bow?
Speaker 2: How big is that?
Speaker 4: How pigg is that Packer's trying for some late magic here,
Speaker 4: But it's the Lions that come in with a folt
Speaker 4: of lightning.
Speaker 5: Pick six.
Speaker 1: Love, Dan Miller and Lomas Brown w x I T Yeah,
Speaker 1: that felt like the dagger. Even though it was before
Speaker 1: halftime on a rainy, ugly day at Lambeau, it was
Speaker 1: tough to get the passing game going that made it
Speaker 1: seventeen to three. The Lions ended up winning twenty four
Speaker 1: to fourteen. They got a couple mutters David Montgomery and
Speaker 1: Jamir Gibbs, and yes, Jared Goff playing well in the rain,
Speaker 1: dispelling the small hands narrative.
Speaker 2: What do you think about this Lions team?
Speaker 1: Shook after a thorough impressive win over another good NFC
Speaker 1: North team. We've been saying this is gonna be a
Speaker 1: great race, but maybe just the Lions are just the team.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, they're the team that's built a winning
Speaker 6: game like this, which is crazy. I know Goff talked
Speaker 6: about this after, but they're an indoor team and they
Speaker 6: just went and won the game on the road in
Speaker 6: the rain at Lambeau against a team that is supposed
Speaker 6: to be a great outdoor team. But yet they're built
Speaker 6: for this because of their mutters, like you just spoke
Speaker 6: of David Montgomery, Jamir Gibbs and Jared Goff, who, even
Speaker 6: though he finishes one hundred and forty five passing yards
Speaker 6: in a touchdown hill has four in completion on the
Speaker 6: day in an environment that was so bad. They showed
Speaker 6: a shot of Aaron Glenn on the sidelines and he's
Speaker 6: wearing glasses and they're completely drenched in rain. I don't
Speaker 6: know how he saw anything. He's not wiping them off, guys,
Speaker 6: he's keeping them on.
Speaker 2: So he's in front of him.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's just completely went.
Speaker 6: That's a former nfler right there, who's played in the
Speaker 6: elements in his time in the league, and he was
Speaker 6: not about to wipe him and show any sense of weakness.
Speaker 6: And that's the Lions. They embodied the personality of their coach,
Speaker 6: Dan Campbell, Aaron Glenn, tough guys, guys who are gonna
Speaker 6: come in there with the receiver wearing a hoodie that
Speaker 6: says green Bay sucks, which, by the way, spelling air
Speaker 6: green Bay is two words.
Speaker 7: I'm and ross ain't brown. Not one did that fixed?
Speaker 7: And they back it up.
Speaker 6: They back it up by winning a game with the
Speaker 6: elements against them pretty handily, to the point where green
Speaker 6: Bay gets a red zone possession in the fourth quarter
Speaker 6: and they turn it over on downs because they can't
Speaker 6: find a way into the end zone. They fumbled the
Speaker 6: ball a couple times before they decided to punt. They
Speaker 6: were having a tough time. Lions the superior team. What
Speaker 6: a resounding win for them in a game between two
Speaker 6: teams that were very close in the standings and are
Speaker 6: still going to be there at the end of the year.
Speaker 6: A major statement win for Detroit.
Speaker 5: And they did it without one of the best defensive
Speaker 5: players in the secondary in the NFL for the majority
Speaker 5: of the game is Brian Branch gets run, has a
Speaker 5: hit on Melton on the sideline goes helmet to helmet.
Speaker 5: They run him for that. Also, you know, it has
Speaker 5: a double bird that leads to, you know, a flag
Speaker 5: being thrown. We're still trying to figure out what the
Speaker 5: enforcement was.
Speaker 1: I think it just means a fine and they just
Speaker 1: threw a flag on the field. And yes, see, the
Speaker 1: best NFL double bird since Pud Adams was famous for
Speaker 1: just doing the overt all the time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, in owner, you know he celebrates with a double bird.
Speaker 5: No celebration for Brian Branch there. But they're able to
Speaker 5: get stops. Early this week, I noted the fact that
Speaker 5: the Lions had in their five game win streak, they
Speaker 5: had scored more touchdowns than Jared Goff had incompletions. And
Speaker 5: then you know, a Packers fan hopped in and said,
Speaker 5: that's a Dome team stat. We'll see what they do
Speaker 5: in the weather. Well, the Green Bay Packers defense able to,
Speaker 5: as Shuk said, hold Jared golf to having four incompletions.
Speaker 2: But the stat still stands. They wasn't today.
Speaker 1: They got three touchdowns and four incompletions. But it's one
Speaker 1: of the most insane stats that I've ever heard of
Speaker 1: covering this sport, that that is now a six week span,
Speaker 1: and it I'm of two minds. Usually, Okay, you get
Speaker 1: the pick six, you get out gained in this game
Speaker 1: by one hundred and fifty yards. The Packers did it
Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of the Titans game last week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Packers did move the ball pretty well in this game,
Speaker 1: and you think, like, Okay, are they are they getting
Speaker 1: a little lucky here where they're getting out gained in
Speaker 1: a couple of different weeks, And I guess I have
Speaker 1: a hard time with that. I don't think they're getting lucky.
Speaker 1: They just have outstanding coaching, outstanding players. It reminds me
Speaker 1: a little bit of the Patriots back in the day,
Speaker 1: where like, yeah, they'll they'll slap you around offensively and
Speaker 1: outgain you plenty sometimes, but then they can win this
Speaker 1: sort of way because every unit is so complimentary and
Speaker 1: they know how to play with a lead like that
Speaker 1: game against What does it matter that they got out
Speaker 1: game with this game? Like, what does it matter that
Speaker 1: they got out gained? They got into a certain position
Speaker 1: of the game and they know how to hold on
Speaker 1: to it. They're they're just so well coached, and part
Speaker 1: of that is their fourth down decisions early in the game,
Speaker 1: it's fourth and one, it's rainy.
Speaker 2: Tom Brady's on the call.
Speaker 1: He doesn't love the fact that they're going for it
Speaker 1: on fourth and one inside the ten yard line. Instead
Speaker 1: of taking your going for three points, instead they throw it.
Speaker 1: Let's listen to it happened on that play early in
Speaker 1: the second quarter. At this point it's a three to
Speaker 1: nothing Packers lead.
Speaker 5: So here we go.
Speaker 1: Fourth and goal for the Lions from just inside the
Speaker 1: green bay.
Speaker 16: Three Goffs got it back looking throwing left, sidewalks Mikes
Speaker 16: to grab touchdown.
Speaker 5: Detroit Lions. Whoa bendy want to throw?
Speaker 10: That time by Jared goff arm and Ross spinning and
Speaker 10: making the.
Speaker 1: Catch, getting two feet down, and the Lions take the lead.
Speaker 2: The Dan Campbell gamble pays off.
Speaker 1: It's just less of a when you have players that good.
Speaker 1: What a freaking route, what a throw? I'd give credit
Speaker 1: to the play call, but it's just like those are
Speaker 1: guys excelling. And then later in the game, Jamiir Gibbs
Speaker 1: gets a touchdown on another fourth and one where they
Speaker 1: pop it for fifteen yards. So it's just excellence, Like
Speaker 1: you don't have to single out one thing It's just
Speaker 1: they're just excellent.
Speaker 5: Yeah, excellent. And I believe it was Corey Valentine that
Speaker 5: was given the unamviable task of not just staying with
Speaker 5: am On Ross Saint Brown before that play while he
Speaker 5: was in motion, but then during the play where the
Speaker 5: Lions offensive line shows just how they're able to keep
Speaker 5: Jared Golf so clean, because that's that's an eternity to
Speaker 5: cover a'm On Ross Saint Brown who does two moves
Speaker 5: on the route and then it's a back shoulder, so
Speaker 5: I guess that you throw it in that as another throw.
Speaker 5: It's just the Lions are doing this again. Brian Branch
Speaker 5: out of the game, they lose their best at rusher
Speaker 5: for the entire season. They just keep coming.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And Mike Florio put on Twitter during the Brown that
Speaker 1: the Browns are expected to trade Zadarias Smith to the Lions,
Speaker 1: and the expectation is that you know by Sunday night
Speaker 1: or Monday that that trade is coming. I really wanted
Speaker 1: to just respond to him, be like, so are you
Speaker 1: reporting the trade is happening, like or not?
Speaker 2: And like what do you mean?
Speaker 1: The expectation is that the trade is happening, And I
Speaker 1: tried to think about it, and I was like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: Zadaria Smith is playing right now and so he basically
Speaker 1: knows it. I'm going to just trust that thing's happening
Speaker 1: and they're just making sure Zadias Smith does it doesn't
Speaker 1: break his leg or something in that game. But I've
Speaker 1: never heard of a report quite like that, or a
Speaker 1: report happened in that point of the week.
Speaker 5: That's that's that's the hedge master. Okay, there's there's some
Speaker 5: hedges that occasionally get sprinkled into some reports about things
Speaker 5: that maybe could happen in the event that another thing
Speaker 5: might possibly could right theoretically happen, then the other thing
Speaker 5: could happen.
Speaker 6: Maybe you would think though you would think that like
Speaker 6: in baseball or basketball, when a trade is imminent, the
Speaker 6: guy gets pulled from the game.
Speaker 7: Played the whole game.
Speaker 6: I'm sitting there watching as I see the report, and
Speaker 6: I'm thinking, are they gonna talk about the game, Like,
Speaker 6: don't you have to pretend?
Speaker 7: I said, if you're gonna trade him, so we'll see
Speaker 7: what happens.
Speaker 6: But you know, guys, I want to say this about
Speaker 6: the the Amen Rod touchdown pass. Right, This is a
Speaker 6: perfect example of continuity. This is a team that trusted
Speaker 6: their coach, their GM and what they had building years ago,
Speaker 6: and now they've seen some success last year. They go
Speaker 6: into a situation on Sunday where the elements are against them,
Speaker 6: fourth and goal, it's raining, and you're gonna throw a
Speaker 6: back shoulder fade to a guy at the hands on.
Speaker 6: Chances are not that's not gonna happen. But they've been
Speaker 6: together so long that they trust each other. They know
Speaker 6: exact where they're gonna be and Jared Goff puts it
Speaker 6: on him perfectly, and he's playing the best football of
Speaker 6: his career.
Speaker 7: That's what makes this team so scary.
Speaker 6: You know, last week they win because they get a
Speaker 6: bunch of short fields and they rack up a bunch
Speaker 6: of points even though Jared Goff's yard is total super low.
Speaker 6: This time they do it in a completely different way
Speaker 6: and it's the same result. Everybody's got to watch out
Speaker 6: for this team in the NFC.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're the favorites and and look Packers. They're
Speaker 1: at what six and three? Yeah, a couple losses back,
Speaker 1: so they got some ground to make up. Jayden Reid
Speaker 1: pulls off some incredible plays. Jordan Love did not look
Speaker 1: one hundred percent in this game. He was not moving
Speaker 1: well a couple You know, he's not always the most
Speaker 1: accurate thrower, so you don't know if it's it's the rain,
Speaker 1: it's the injury, but he was certainly affected in this game.
Speaker 1: And they're able to run the ball, whether it's Jacobs
Speaker 1: or Wilson. They have six point six yards per play.
Speaker 1: I still feel very good about this Packers team, but
Speaker 1: they got out classed in a game where everything had
Speaker 1: to be right, and yet it has to sting to
Speaker 1: have the game end. Let's listen to just the chance
Speaker 1: that are happening at the end of this game.
Speaker 2: This is a road game and lambele Field Jared Goff
Speaker 2: chunks breaking out.
Speaker 17: How about that?
Speaker 5: That's pretty great.
Speaker 2: This great feeling if you're on that.
Speaker 5: Lion's sideline they're all celebrating.
Speaker 2: Over there is freaking amazing.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I just think about the fact that the Detroit
Speaker 1: Lions are like the best run team in the NFL
Speaker 1: outside of Kansas City.
Speaker 2: It is an amazing thing. I love it. There so
Speaker 2: fun to watch.
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and we will beat back
Speaker 1: with another team that's very fun to watch and put
Speaker 1: up a lot.
Speaker 2: Of points on Sunday.
Speaker 18: Only about eighteen yards away from field goal range. Lamar
Speaker 18: fakes to the late handoff, nog fires down the middle.
Speaker 18: He's got a man wide open. That's say Flowers at
Speaker 18: the thirty yard line, breaks a tackle. He's on the
Speaker 18: twenty Flowers.
Speaker 5: Of the tad fire touch down.
Speaker 4: Say Flowers, Oh what a catch and run, and the
Speaker 4: Ravens have delighted the crowd.
Speaker 18: Forget the field goal, they got the.
Speaker 5: Enzil Rod is funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm never really sure what Rod is saying or
Speaker 1: doing in the booth Hall of Famer. I mean, you
Speaker 1: go to the mall in Torrents on Saturday, like me.
Speaker 1: You'll see some rod woods and jerseys up at the store.
Speaker 1: People still by in rod Woodson ed Greaters jerseys and
Speaker 1: Ravens jersey.
Speaker 2: But I don't know what he's doing in the booths.
Speaker 1: Sometimes wbal Terry Sandusky, Rod Winson.
Speaker 2: Sorry now, Lamar jack look he look, Lamar.
Speaker 1: Jackson is the headline here, big time play before halftime.
Speaker 1: The Ravens go on to roll forty one to ten.
Speaker 1: These were two five and three teams Patrick, but they were.
Speaker 2: Not the same.
Speaker 5: They were not the same. But early it's felt like
Speaker 5: they were. It was a ten to seventeen game. Will
Speaker 5: Lutz hits a field goal and it's the cut to
Speaker 5: a touchdown, and that's it for the Denver Broncos Offensively.
Speaker 5: They're stuck on ten for the remainder of the game.
Speaker 5: The Ravens go touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, field goal, and wind
Speaker 5: up winning forty one to ten. In a game where
Speaker 5: Derrick Henry has one hundred yards on the ground, he
Speaker 5: adds his one hundredth career rushing touchdown, the fifth fastest
Speaker 5: ever to get to one hundred rushing touchdowns. Two on
Speaker 5: the day. Lamar has three completions and the defense kind
Speaker 5: of figure things out. I know the scoreboard got lopsided,
Speaker 5: but early on they had two four down stops, one
Speaker 5: of Javonte Williams another is incompletion. They forced a turnover
Speaker 5: on the first possession of the game. Other than at
Speaker 5: very frustrating Philly Philly where somehow Marcus Williams gets lost
Speaker 5: by Bo Nicks, it was a bounce back performance for
Speaker 5: this Ravens defense. And Greg Rosenthal called it because he
Speaker 5: said that the Broncos were gonna get run out of
Speaker 5: the stadium, and they did they got rid in the
Speaker 5: t bank as if they had put a note on
Speaker 5: the teller's window. That's true.
Speaker 1: I made it thirty three to thirteen on Game Devu
Speaker 1: and Broncos fans are honking.
Speaker 5: Look.
Speaker 1: Defense sometimes is a function of who you've played. And
Speaker 1: I know they did well early in the season against
Speaker 1: like a Baker Mayfield Bucks team, but that was early.
Speaker 1: The last month of the season, it's been against the
Speaker 1: worst quarterbacks in the league except for the week that
Speaker 1: they played Justin Herbert, and they just looked, Okay, now
Speaker 1: you're playing an MVP and you can't have your defense
Speaker 1: carry you. This is a Ravens team which didn't even
Speaker 1: add Deontay Johnson to the mix. And by the end
Speaker 1: of the game, they're doing the ultimate victory cigar. They're
Speaker 1: throwing a pass to Patrick Riccard. Let's listen to that.
Speaker 18: Derek Lamar takes a snap, rolls out, throws pat Rickcard
Speaker 18: touchdown Ravens. What a creative play call by offensive coordinator
Speaker 18: Todd Munkin. He brought Derrick Henry back in seventy thousand.
Speaker 18: Fans and every member of the Broncos have their eyes
Speaker 18: on Derrick Henry off the playfake, Lamar Jackson throws it
Speaker 18: to Patrick Carr.
Speaker 1: Love that look. Yeah, Todd Munkin deserves a few flowers here.
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson only had to throw nineteen passes. He went
Speaker 1: on deark goff three incompletions with three touchdowns.
Speaker 6: Nick Schoock, that's not that creative of a play call,
Speaker 6: by the way, flat Like, look, fullbacks are people too,
Speaker 6: but it's just fullback flat al right, guys, But no,
Speaker 6: I mean this is exactly a classic case of a
Speaker 6: really good team that enters a week pissed off because
Speaker 6: they got beat by a team that was inferior to
Speaker 6: them the week before, and then next team waiting in
Speaker 6: their path is gonna pay for it. And the Broncos
Speaker 6: paid for today. And if you look at one number,
Speaker 6: it's all about efficiency. You talk about Lamar Jackson only
Speaker 6: having three incompletions, they average seven point three yards per play,
Speaker 6: like they're just picking up yards at will all game.
Speaker 6: And then they put the cherry on top and really
Speaker 6: send a message to John Payton, who got in hot
Speaker 6: water last week for sending the message to the Carolina
Speaker 6: Panthers and said we're gonna throw it to the fullback
Speaker 6: who also used to play a little bit of defensive tackle.
Speaker 6: How you like them apples.
Speaker 1: The difference was that was the third quarter they were
Speaker 1: just were they were just were rolling them up. What
Speaker 1: did what did you see out of Bonnicks in this
Speaker 1: Broncos offense? Because I gotta say, it's become a running
Speaker 1: joke that like every white quarterback is called sneaky athletic.
Speaker 2: It's like it doesn't have to be that way.
Speaker 5: Like C. J.
Speaker 2: Stroud is sneaky athletic too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I actually do think Bonex is sneaky because
Speaker 1: like he I knew he could run, but I didn't
Speaker 1: know he could run this well, that he could be
Speaker 1: this efficient scrambler. And I knew he's athletic, but I
Speaker 1: didn't think it could be moss in people on a
Speaker 1: contested catch for a touchdown Courtland Sutton, by the way,
Speaker 1: he took a quarterback hit.
Speaker 2: On that throw.
Speaker 1: I mean that that was a really well executed play
Speaker 1: by the two of them, not a fourth down.
Speaker 5: Courtland Sutton featured one of those pressures that the Ravens
Speaker 5: really didn't get a lot of on the day. But
Speaker 5: it's not just the Baltimore Ravens defense. It's having trouble
Speaker 5: keeping bon Nicks for getting yards with Yeah, this is
Speaker 5: an athletic dude, which is why I think the notion
Speaker 5: that it's sneaky is like, Okay.
Speaker 1: I just didn't see all that at you know, the
Speaker 1: college table. Maybe I missed it. Maybe I missed it.
Speaker 7: That's what it is.
Speaker 6: The people who think it's sneaky athletic and are surprised
Speaker 6: by I didn't watch him inn Orgon and maybe they
Speaker 6: didn't watch Justin Herbert at Oregon because that's the basis
Speaker 6: of their offense and where quarterbacks thrive.
Speaker 7: Dylan Gabriel's doing it right now.
Speaker 6: But but Bonix does best is when he gets out
Speaker 6: on the perimeter, So it behooves the Broncos to get
Speaker 6: him out running, whether it's throwing or running with the football.
Speaker 7: That's his greatest strength.
Speaker 6: Right now, He's not really a guy you want to
Speaker 6: operate in the pocket all day, especially behind this offensive
Speaker 6: line which has kind of been up and down.
Speaker 7: So that didn't surprise me at all.
Speaker 6: It's just the fact that you know their limitations, you
Speaker 6: know that he's still a rookie quarterback, and you know
Speaker 6: you're playing a Ravens defense going to be capable of
Speaker 6: causing problems for him. So that's kind of just the
Speaker 6: result you get. But I still think highly of him.
Speaker 6: I think he's got a bright future. It's a different
Speaker 6: kind of bright future than like a drake may for
Speaker 6: different reasons, but I think that it serves him best
Speaker 6: to get him outside and on the run and take
Speaker 6: advantage of those athletic talents.
Speaker 7: That's when he's most dangerous.
Speaker 5: You saw the problem that this Ravens defense has in
Speaker 5: terms of generating a pass rush. But to your point, Nick,
Speaker 5: when bow Knicks had over four seconds, he was two
Speaker 5: of five, and there were a lot of times where
Speaker 5: the Ravens got nothing and bo Nicks is just back there.
Speaker 5: One of those completions, one of the two was a
Speaker 5: ball to Courtland Sutton, where the problems covering the other
Speaker 5: teams wide receiver ones have been consistent for Baltimore all
Speaker 5: season long. They had issues dealing with Courtland Sutton, but
Speaker 5: bo Knicks just didn't generate the type of offense that
Speaker 5: other quarterbacks would really pick you a part on that.
Speaker 5: But on throws of under two and a half seconds
Speaker 5: and then he was four of six over he was
Speaker 5: fifteen to twenty seven. He had that interception, but he
Speaker 5: played well when he was out on the edges. And
Speaker 5: I still think Baltimore has to figure something out, if
Speaker 5: not personnel wise, play calling wise, in terms of getting
Speaker 5: some pressure on me.
Speaker 1: Look, they still have to play the Chiefs twice, including
Speaker 1: next week in Arrowhead.
Speaker 2: They have the Falcons after the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: This was always going to be a tricky part of
Speaker 1: the schedule, but they're five and four and they have
Speaker 1: plenty of winnable games down the stretch. They are going
Speaker 1: to be in this AFC Wildcard race, I believe until
Speaker 1: the end. Whether they get over the line, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but there only one went away from topping their over
Speaker 1: underwin totals for the year, so they're beating expectations they're
Speaker 1: going to be in the mix. But I think this
Speaker 1: was kind of a humbling game for Broncos and their fans,
Speaker 1: thinking like there's a pretty big difference between them and
Speaker 1: the real deal contenders. We're going to find out a
Speaker 1: lot on Thursday night about real deal contenders because that's
Speaker 1: Bengals Ravens the rematch. Let's go to Cincinnati. Hopefully they
Speaker 1: set us up for a good one.
Speaker 15: Burrol ready for the shotgun snap, three receivers left, one right,
Speaker 15: Joe has the ball looking left, goes taught by a second.
Speaker 15: He's at the twenty middle of the field. Ten five touchdown. Wow,
Speaker 15: forty seven yards touchdown pass number five for Joe Burrow
Speaker 15: to tie his career hide.
Speaker 1: Sometimes all you can say is wow, Wow, you're just
Speaker 1: watching greatness.
Speaker 2: Dave Lapham knows it. That was him. Dan hord on.
Speaker 1: W c K, Why yeah, Joe Burrow got five touchdowns.
Speaker 2: It's almost got a six late in the game.
Speaker 1: They wanted six, They wanted it. Life is short. Get
Speaker 1: the six touchdown. I mean it, like, why not?
Speaker 2: The Raiders they're just.
Speaker 1: Speed bumps right now at this point of the season.
Speaker 1: They're just falling harder and faster. They actually Ben s
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew for Desmond Ritter in this game. Finally the
Speaker 1: Bengals get a game they can just kind of relax
Speaker 1: and enjoy a victory.
Speaker 2: Forty one to twenty four. Nick.
Speaker 1: When this offense is cooking, it looks like one of
Speaker 1: the league's best, even without t Higgins on Sunday, Yeah, you.
Speaker 6: Know, Joe Burrow had a He put together a masterclass
Speaker 6: of improvisation in this game. You know, you've seen him
Speaker 6: thrive from the pocket throwing downfield, and they've had to
Speaker 6: because their defense has just been, you know, subpar for
Speaker 6: the early portion of the season. At least they had
Speaker 6: to throw their way to just stay in games. That
Speaker 6: wasn't the case on Sunday because they got after Gardner
Speaker 6: Minshew so much that Antonio Pierce benched in, like you said,
Speaker 6: for Desmond Ritter, because he's just throwing spaghetti at the
Speaker 6: wall and seeing what sticks at this point. But Burrow
Speaker 6: was fantastic and it reminded me again not to make
Speaker 6: another Mahomes comparison, but I'm going to because the improvisation
Speaker 6: was just exquisite. He according next to gen stats, you know,
Speaker 6: he goes twenty two for thirty one. When he's not
Speaker 6: on the run, he's under eight miles an hour, right,
Speaker 6: but over eight miles an hour he's five for eight
Speaker 6: for thirty two yards and three touchdowns. Just the way
Speaker 6: to create and make plays out on the run, finding guys.
Speaker 7: This offense was humming.
Speaker 6: Chase Brown goes over one hundred yards for the first
Speaker 6: time in his career. They finished with three seventy three,
Speaker 6: and it felt like it could have been five to
Speaker 6: seven with the way that they looked.
Speaker 7: They just looked like.
Speaker 6: A really good unit even without t Higgins Today, these
Speaker 6: types of games, I know that they don't play the
Speaker 6: Raiders every week, and I know they're going to be
Speaker 6: challenged defensively continuously. But this game, man, it had to
Speaker 6: feel good. They were finally back home and they could
Speaker 6: send their fans home winners comfortably.
Speaker 7: So for the first time this season, you.
Speaker 1: Don't have to apologize for easy wins over teams that
Speaker 1: are struggling. The Raiders that chances to be the Chiefs
Speaker 1: last last week, and this Bengals team. I think it's
Speaker 1: important for them to get a consistent ground game. They
Speaker 1: also didn't have Zach Moss. They're getting a lot of
Speaker 1: production out of Mike Sicky, who goes for one hundred
Speaker 1: yards and two touchdowns. Their tight ends have been quite
Speaker 1: good all year. Eric All's been a really good rookie
Speaker 1: for them. They play Tanner Hudson like they've got all
Speaker 1: the components offensively. I think we know that, and it
Speaker 1: does set up a delicious TNF. I got Nick Wesling
Speaker 1: on the recap with me. I've been looking forward to
Speaker 1: this one for months. I wanted the Bengals to get
Speaker 1: there five and four. Instead they're four and five, and
Speaker 1: it just makes it an even bigger game for them.
Speaker 1: But at least they're going into it feeling good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because the chance to take on the Ravens at home.
Speaker 5: We are going to see more Mike Gasicki. It's a
Speaker 5: torn acl for Eric All. So the good two way
Speaker 5: tight end blocking and receiving going to be done. So
Speaker 5: that's going to change things a little bit for the Bengals.
Speaker 5: But just to see, as Shook mentioned, Joe Burrow throwing
Speaker 5: on the run that touchdown pass to Chase Brown. He
Speaker 5: gives Chase Brown time to uncover and that's what speed
Speaker 5: at that position does because there's nobody open. But Burrow's
Speaker 5: able to roll to his right enough time for Chase
Speaker 5: Brown to clear and he hits him there. They really
Speaker 5: didn't even get a lot from Jamar Chase, but he
Speaker 5: commanded so much attention they're able to just go up
Speaker 5: and down the field. This is the Bengals team that
Speaker 5: was promised. And you know what do we take from
Speaker 5: Coach Lou's squad holding the Raiders to twenty four points?
Speaker 5: I don't know it's the Raiders, but despite the fact
Speaker 5: that they give up Zamir White's first rushing touchdown of
Speaker 5: the season. I think they had a solid game. Considering
Speaker 5: that the Raiders started with a seventeen play drive, it
Speaker 5: takes up almost the entire first quore. The first quarter
Speaker 5: had three drives in it just between the Bengals and
Speaker 5: the Raiders consuming clock. But after that, I really think
Speaker 5: they got it together.
Speaker 1: On the other side, Hendrickson had Trey Hendrickson had ten
Speaker 1: quarterback pressures seven quick pressures, which is up there with
Speaker 1: the most by anyone in any game all season. The
Speaker 1: Raiders have the worst EPA per rush of any team,
Speaker 1: not in this game, but in the entire first nine
Speaker 1: weeks of the season of any team this century. They
Speaker 1: are the worst, the worst running game maybe ever. At
Speaker 1: least right now they are in the mix. And this
Speaker 1: is one of the games where the coach lost. And
Speaker 1: I don't think anything would happen mid season with Antonio Pierce.
Speaker 1: But it's one of the games today that got me
Speaker 1: thinking about h.
Speaker 2: I wonder what the softseason.
Speaker 7: Could look like like.
Speaker 6: The story of this game was like one great opening
Speaker 6: drive and Gardner Minsh makes a couple of nice throws
Speaker 6: and some mere white gets in the end zone and
Speaker 6: then they just disappeared offensively. And I understand and why
Speaker 6: he's tired of Minshew and he's just grasping its straws
Speaker 6: at this point because he's looking for, as the coaches say,
Speaker 6: a spark. Well, desn Ritard is not going to provide
Speaker 6: you a spark. Aidan O'Connell lost that spark when he
Speaker 6: got hurt. You have nowhere else to turn and you
Speaker 6: have no answers. DeVante Adams is no longer on this team.
Speaker 6: Jacoby Myers. His return has helped this offense and helped
Speaker 6: them early in this game, but that's not something that's
Speaker 6: going to fix everything. Like this dam has a lot
Speaker 6: of cracks in it, and you just don't have enough
Speaker 6: piece of the chewing gum to keep, you know, everything
Speaker 6: from leaking out. So I hate to say it because
Speaker 6: his first year is the permanent head coach, but they're
Speaker 6: just going nowhere fast. So I would not be surprised
Speaker 6: if at some point they did make it.
Speaker 1: Change well, especially just because of the history there with
Speaker 1: Mark Davis. But but big Win, I want the Bengals
Speaker 1: to be relevant to the very end of the season.
Speaker 1: I think they will be no matter what happens on
Speaker 1: Thursday night, but does set up a fun one.
Speaker 2: Let's go, God.
Speaker 5: I do want to give out some hope they're winning
Speaker 5: the MRI on Eric All Okay, I don't want to
Speaker 5: go Twitter doctor there. So perhaps there's a chance it's
Speaker 5: not a terrorist. So we're gonna have to figure that out.
Speaker 1: All right, let's hope. Let's also go to the Giant,
Speaker 1: go to the Washington Commanders and see if the Commandos
Speaker 1: could get a season sweep.
Speaker 14: At the eighteen to three wide receivers of the left
Speaker 14: empty backfield, Jade loads it up towards the edge, towards mcclardy, catches.
Speaker 2: That touch y'all own, touch you out Washington.
Speaker 5: Perfect throw from Daniels.
Speaker 16: To the blauren.
Speaker 5: If we've learned anything, you.
Speaker 15: Do not doubt Jaden Diels going to Terry mccaudy.
Speaker 2: You never doubt him.
Speaker 1: Although like Bram Einstein sounded almost surprised by how good
Speaker 1: of a throw that was. Yes time running down in
Speaker 1: the first half, Jade and Daniels gets a seventeen yard
Speaker 1: touchdown to Terry McLaurin. Washington stays ahead the rest of
Speaker 1: the game. They win twenty seven to twenty two against
Speaker 1: a game Giants offense. It was the Washington offense that
Speaker 1: had to win this game for them, and week after week,
Speaker 1: the different tests that they face, they just keep passing.
Speaker 1: And I was really impressed by the Commanders in this
Speaker 1: game because the Giants did what they wanted to for
Speaker 1: much of the game offensively, ran the ball down their
Speaker 1: throats in the first half. Yeah, I know, there was
Speaker 1: that famous now famous that that Daniel Jones had zero
Speaker 1: passing yards in the first half and a touchdown, which
Speaker 1: I think he was the first person ever to do that.
Speaker 2: But they were moving the ball great.
Speaker 1: He barely threw the ball in the first half, and
Speaker 1: they kept scoring in the second half. But what do
Speaker 1: the Commanders do? Their offensive line dominated. They're eleven for
Speaker 1: eleven this season. Now, on fourth downs, when Jaden Daniels
Speaker 1: had to deliver, he did a play really stands out
Speaker 1: to me that won't be in any highlight package. Third
Speaker 1: and eight up twenty four to sixteen, It's still a
Speaker 1: one score game at that point, Giants get early pressure
Speaker 1: up the middle, Dexter Lawrence doing what he's done all year.
Speaker 1: Almost any other quarterback would not have completed a pass
Speaker 1: on that play, and Daniel's just so calm, just keeps
Speaker 1: drifting back, drifting back, drifting back.
Speaker 2: The games just seemed so slow for him.
Speaker 1: He finds his open checkdown for the first down and
Speaker 1: they end up scoring a field goal on that drive
Speaker 1: that essentially ends it. And there was just a lot
Speaker 1: of moments in this game took where he just needed
Speaker 1: to make a play like that touchdown to McLaurin, and
Speaker 1: he just makes the play and then you just take
Speaker 1: it for granted. But they weren't necessarily easy plays like
Speaker 1: these were a pretty high degree of difficulty plays that
Speaker 1: this rookie just keeps putting on tape every single week.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's why he's committed the attention that he has.
Speaker 6: That's why last week's win was so big when he's
Speaker 6: playing through a rib injuries, because this is a kid
Speaker 6: who has exceeded all expectations because of his ability to
Speaker 6: deliver in the clutch, and even in a game against
Speaker 6: the Giants, a game that on paper you're supposed to win.
Speaker 6: You are a team that is ascending, The Giants are
Speaker 6: a wayward ship at best, and yet you still have
Speaker 6: to come through in the NFL because any given Sunday,
Speaker 6: you still have to come through in the key moments
Speaker 6: and again, time and time again. He's able to do
Speaker 6: that on a day where the offense is fairly balanced
Speaker 6: but still kind of leans on him, where the Giants
Speaker 6: are giving you everything they've gotten, making an interesting game
Speaker 6: for four four quarters. That's why he's gonna win Offensive
Speaker 6: Rookie of the Year. That's why everybody has hope in
Speaker 6: the Nation's cap now because they know, for the first
Speaker 6: time in years, if not decades, maybe since Robert Griffin
Speaker 6: the third when he was a rookie, they have a
Speaker 6: quarterback they can get the job done.
Speaker 7: And he continues to prove it evening games like this.
Speaker 5: He does it with not a full contingent in the backfield,
Speaker 5: Brian Robinson Junior out with the hamstring injury. Austin Eckler
Speaker 5: exceeded his season high of eight carries in the first
Speaker 5: half and he finishes with eleven. They had Rodriguez come
Speaker 5: in he had eleven carries as well. But this the
Speaker 5: Giants scored their first that's Daniel Jones's first passing touchdown
Speaker 5: at MetLife this season, and considering that this was a
Speaker 5: relative offensive explosion and they beat this team earlier this
Speaker 5: year in a field goal festival from both teams right
Speaker 5: where the one team couldn't kick field goals and that
Speaker 5: was the Giants, and the Commander is able to bring
Speaker 5: in a kicker and have success in the kicking game. Here,
Speaker 5: they just make every single necessary play, right, it was
Speaker 5: not this continued Look, every single high leverage play. The
Speaker 5: Washington Commanders came out on top here and the Giants.
Speaker 5: Where we're doing Game Day Live and Mark Ross looks
Speaker 5: up and he sees Deontay Banks on Terry McLaurin. He
Speaker 5: calls a touchdown before it happens. It's like, this is
Speaker 5: banks on mclauren. That's not going to work out. Terry
Speaker 5: has a quarterback now and you could just see how
Speaker 5: gifted a receiver he is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've only turned the ball over three times this season,
Speaker 1: which I believe ties for the fewest ever for through
Speaker 1: nine games in NFL.
Speaker 2: History, which is crazy.
Speaker 1: So they've been very careful with the ball and like
Speaker 1: the Giants, only had seven real possessions in this game.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm giving the offense for the Commanded. This
Speaker 1: was very similar to the first game, where it was
Speaker 1: a bunch of long drives between the two teams. It
Speaker 1: was the classic Daniel Jones game because it has that
Speaker 1: crazy stat at halftime, everyone's laughing. He had a fumble
Speaker 1: that should have been returned for a touchdo down by
Speaker 1: the Commander's defense.
Speaker 2: They blew it dead.
Speaker 1: It was a mistake by the officials, but they did
Speaker 1: award the ball to the Commanders, and so he has
Speaker 1: a big groaner of a play. He has that funny stat,
Speaker 1: but he also, you know, has a truck stick on
Speaker 1: the goal line where he runs over two dudes. I
Speaker 1: forget who he runs over on the goal end. I
Speaker 1: believe it was Dante Fowler and Sandra Still. Sandra Still
Speaker 1: was the one who really got it, but Fowler's involved
Speaker 1: in Jones runs him over and then they're trying to
Speaker 1: catch up in this game, and it was a one
Speaker 1: score game and he leads him to two touchdown drives
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter when it's still a game. So
Speaker 1: he actually played pretty well and it still wasn't enough.
Speaker 1: So that's sort of the classic Daniel Jones game. But
Speaker 1: the touchdowns to me that the Commander scored are so instructive.
Speaker 1: Eckler had an absolutely nasty, angry run on the goal
Speaker 1: line where he just runs over Okerriky. That was what
Speaker 1: was on my mind. Then you have the first touchdown
Speaker 1: throw to McLaurin, which is a second in inches and
Speaker 1: the last thing you think they're gonna do is throw
Speaker 1: the ball there because they've been running so well and
Speaker 1: it was not an easy play, but he throws it
Speaker 1: into a tight window to McLaurin get the touchdown. Then
Speaker 1: there's the dart that you heard already to McLaurin that
Speaker 1: we listened to as the highlight. But another play that
Speaker 1: really stands out to me is second and nine, And
Speaker 1: this is why the coaches deserve a ton of credit.
Speaker 1: They've really timed their play call sequencing so well. It's
Speaker 1: second and nine late in this game. They're trying to
Speaker 1: run clock and win the game here, and they drop
Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels back to pass with two zho five to go.
Speaker 1: Instead of you know, running again there, which is going
Speaker 1: to be predict predictable. Instead of running on first down
Speaker 1: or on third down, you pass it on seventh, second down.
Speaker 1: You give Jade and Daniels a chance to close out
Speaker 1: the game. Let's listen to that call.
Speaker 5: Daniels is in.
Speaker 14: No rush, lifts his foot takes the snat play action,
Speaker 14: rolling White throwing back left as a wide open A
Speaker 14: lot of these the kids at the forty fine racing
Speaker 14: at the.
Speaker 2: Twenty seven yard line want to play by.
Speaker 1: Dariels I love that because it's just a perfect play
Speaker 1: call in the moment, and they were aware enough situationally,
Speaker 1: because the clock is running there and you're about to
Speaker 1: hit the two minute warning that they're on their p's
Speaker 1: and q's that they snap the ball. When they snap it,
Speaker 1: they know they're going to get a play where they
Speaker 1: can throw the ball and they don't mind stopping the clock.
Speaker 1: You'd be surprised not that many coaches are going to
Speaker 1: be that confident in their rookie quarterback to make that
Speaker 1: play call and they're not going to be aware enough
Speaker 1: to call that and that ends the game.
Speaker 5: It's awesome just preparation, execution and being able to rely
Speaker 5: on your players to make plays. Sol lamindes a kias
Speaker 5: giving big hugs to Cliff Kingsbury and Dan Quinn as
Speaker 5: they're able to kneel that nail the playout towards the
Speaker 5: end of the game where they could have scored again
Speaker 5: right right, they're able to just shut it down and
Speaker 5: that's save snaps.
Speaker 1: Yet not of the Sean Payton variety. They could have
Speaker 1: put it thirty four to twenty two. I just decided
Speaker 1: not to on a day. Noah Brown and Zakias and
Speaker 1: Ekeeler and Diami Brown are their four leading receivers. Terry
Speaker 1: McLaurin a very efficient two for nineteen two touchdowns. They
Speaker 1: are seven and two. What a great NFC East race.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be between Washington and Philadelphia. Let's go out
Speaker 1: west and see how the Bears responded from that Hail
Speaker 1: Mary fiasco.
Speaker 17: Third and five at the forty seven of Arizona, Harrison
Speaker 17: wide left and Murray runs it far side and breaking
Speaker 17: free is Steamer Coatta at the forty dear side, thirty
Speaker 17: twenty ten to five touchdown.
Speaker 11: With four seconds left in the half. The Bears never
Speaker 11: expected that Steamercata on a handoff runs fifty three yards
Speaker 11: for a touchdown. The Bears give up another big score
Speaker 11: at the end of.
Speaker 1: A half, Dave Pash hitting him where it hurts on
Speaker 1: KMVP and yes, it's time for the Sunday Drive presented
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Speaker 1: Mary as a fifty three yard run. That drive was
Speaker 1: totally preposterous. They got the ball back with twenty six
Speaker 1: seconds left and they ran for a touchdown and left
Speaker 1: four seconds on the clock. The Bears defense not impressive
Speaker 1: all day. Twenty nine to nine. The Cardinals put it
Speaker 1: on the Bears every which way on a day that
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray had like a C game, maybe even C
Speaker 1: minus for how he's played this season, Like, didn't do
Speaker 1: anything great, didn't take anything off the table.
Speaker 2: The Cardinals win easy.
Speaker 1: That's a sign to me that this team is really growing,
Speaker 1: is really becoming complete. They can run the ball. James
Speaker 1: Connor ends up with eighteen for one oh seven. You
Speaker 1: heard the Amari de Marcato run. Trey Benson has little
Speaker 1: cameo a in a big spot in the game and
Speaker 1: gets a touchdown, had a seventeen yard run as well.
Speaker 1: And their defense, like just very very impressed by their defense.
Speaker 1: Having sixteen different players get a pressure on Caleb Williams. Yes,
Speaker 1: that is the most next Gen Stats has recorded in
Speaker 1: a game all season. That seems insane that sixteen different
Speaker 1: Cardinals got pressure. Another game where Caleb is pressured almost
Speaker 1: half the time, and they it was just like hunting
Speaker 1: season for this Cardinals defense, sending blitzes and sometimes even
Speaker 1: with the four man.
Speaker 5: Rush's And that's what it is for this Arizona Cardinals team,
Speaker 5: where it's pressure by committee. Right, this is the typical
Speaker 5: because you mentioned sixteen players. According to next Gen Stats,
Speaker 5: Scalab Williams was under pressure on fifteen on fifteen attempts,
Speaker 5: and so fifteen times scale Williams is throwing the ball.
Speaker 5: The Cardinals have sixteen guys getting pressure. It's I know
Speaker 5: there's more total pressures right than that, but still to
Speaker 5: see him all those pressured attempts, he's nine to fifteen
Speaker 5: for seventy eight yards, which doesn't seem that bad, but
Speaker 5: they could not sustain drives against this Cardinals defense that
Speaker 5: there's pressure. They were able to hold DeAndre Swift to
Speaker 5: keep him away from a couple of game breaking plays.
Speaker 5: And when you get positive like like the fifty four
Speaker 5: yard I'm Mario de Mercado touchdown where he didn't even
Speaker 5: have that many carries, James Connor goes over one hundred
Speaker 5: yards on the ground, it just seems like the Cardinals
Speaker 5: just a better team here playing at home against the
Speaker 5: Bears team that's kind of reeling right now.
Speaker 6: It sounds like it's a case of one team that
Speaker 6: I think prepared better than the other. And I could
Speaker 6: understand that with the way that Chicago lost that game,
Speaker 6: and you know, Matt Ebfus had to spend two days
Speaker 6: answering questions about Tyreek Stevenson. I mean that you talk
Speaker 6: about distractions, that's a distraction. And everybody was surprised by
Speaker 6: that touchdown round by a Mario dear Mircado, Dave Pash
Speaker 6: was surprised when he called it.
Speaker 7: He goes Murray carries.
Speaker 1: Was that surprising play called the run in that in
Speaker 1: that of course it was yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: Right, And Ebfus admitted we went for a pass pressure
Speaker 6: because we didn't think they were gonna run. I understand,
Speaker 6: but I'm worried about the Bears because I think that
Speaker 6: this might snowball. If it gets like this, like this
Speaker 6: might be the turning point. This might be the moment
Speaker 6: that we look back and think that was the beginning
Speaker 6: of the end of the Matt Eavenfus era. Whereas on
Speaker 6: the Cardinals, look at them, they're five and four. The Cardinals,
Speaker 6: who we said would be a fun team, and we'll
Speaker 6: see how many games they win. Just take it to
Speaker 6: a team that had a good defense that did not
Speaker 6: bring that defense to the desert. And on a day
Speaker 6: in which Kyler Murray plays, okay, they still dominate with
Speaker 6: the rushing attack. That again, we know this to be
Speaker 6: true about the Cardinals. James Connor breaks a hundred yards,
Speaker 6: they'd probably got to have a good chance to win
Speaker 6: the game, and they certainly did today.
Speaker 1: The Bears were not gonna win this game no matter
Speaker 1: how many times he played it because of their run
Speaker 1: defense right off the bat, and there were a couple
Speaker 1: early drives where the Cardinals didn't get anything going. The
Speaker 1: teams are just trading punts early in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: But after that they got whatever they wanted to on
Speaker 1: the ground, and it was that creative, just perfectly time
Speaker 1: run blocking and play calls that they had last year,
Speaker 1: where it was outside, it was inside, it was zone,
Speaker 1: it was power like, it was a little bit of everything.
Speaker 1: They end up with two thirteen, but they had like
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty at halftime and just kind of
Speaker 1: coasted the rest of the way. And yeah, I think
Speaker 1: nationally like the big takeaway from this game will be Bears.
Speaker 1: But to me, it's the Cardinals. They're in first place
Speaker 1: and they have a lot going on. They have a
Speaker 1: like I think they have great vibes right now, like
Speaker 1: they they haven't been in important games like this since
Speaker 1: about the same part of the season in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: one when they I think they got to ten and
Speaker 1: two that year before it really caved in on them.
Speaker 1: So just a lot of credit. This coaching staff is
Speaker 1: really showing what you can do with with strong coaching
Speaker 1: and buying from the players, and they're really playing hard
Speaker 1: on the bear side. You mentioned distracting week, Nick, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there were some like conversations with the media and the
Speaker 1: coaches of Courtney Cronin of ESPN even said like, this
Speaker 1: is a really important game for Eberflus, almost hinting at
Speaker 1: like they knew something more when I was surprised by
Speaker 1: that because look, they're a four and three team, but
Speaker 1: they benched Tyreek Stevenson. He has his helmet off the
Speaker 1: first couple of drives and then suddenly he has to
Speaker 1: come into the game.
Speaker 2: He actually made some good plays in this game.
Speaker 1: He has to come into the game because they have
Speaker 1: a couple of injuries, and I know those injuries are
Speaker 1: why Patrick Claibun joined me on the Cardinals side and
Speaker 1: flipped his pick right before the game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've felt for a couple of weeks now Kyler
Speaker 5: Gordon and Jakwan Brisker kind of the deciding factor is
Speaker 5: the Bears defense is notably different without both of those
Speaker 5: guys in the secondary. And this is something that now
Speaker 5: we're two weeks that we saw it happened with the
Speaker 5: Baltimore Ravens and Marcus Williams and now with Stevenson of
Speaker 5: the Bears. I think it's very difficult, especially in the secondary,
Speaker 5: to do this kind of ViBe's punishment thing for players
Speaker 5: when they make mistakes if they are the best player
Speaker 5: in that particular situation, which is why they were on
Speaker 5: the field in the first place. And so then you
Speaker 5: do that and more bad things happen and you put
Speaker 5: yourself in a position where you can execute because you're
Speaker 5: punishing a guy for not executing. When let's be honest,
Speaker 5: Stevenson wasn't the only Bear to make a mistake on
Speaker 5: that particular play, and he definitely wasn't the one to
Speaker 5: make a mistake in that particular game in the loss
Speaker 5: to them.
Speaker 1: No, I mean the coach the coach not taking a
Speaker 1: time out, the coach in the way that he called it,
Speaker 1: the coach, the coach setting up that thing, made mistakes,
Speaker 1: and eber Flus, he's just holding that play sheet real
Speaker 1: tight right now. When they had that holding call that
Speaker 1: called back one of their big runs on the thing,
Speaker 1: he just had a look on his face like like
Speaker 1: I would imagine Bears fans had at home of just
Speaker 1: like just total fury that he's just trying to hold inside.
Speaker 1: And you just feel like it's piling up a little bit.
Speaker 1: And it's true about Caleb Williams too, Like multiple things
Speaker 1: can be true. The offensive line is not playing well.
Speaker 1: I think whatever they're calling on offense isn't working. He's
Speaker 1: not on the same page with Keenan Allen too and
Speaker 1: DJ Moore too many times, just a lot of incompletion.
Speaker 1: But also when he has been protected, he hasn't looked
Speaker 1: comfortable and he's missed a lot of throws by a lot,
Speaker 1: Like there were just a lot of uncatchable passes in
Speaker 1: this game before the roof really caved in in the
Speaker 1: second half and they couldn't protect him. So it's just
Speaker 1: a lot going wrong for the Bears and Yes, mattiberflus
Speaker 1: will really be tested. That was the Sunday Drive presented
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Speaker 1: slash camriy. Let's go to Cleveland. Jamis Winston's got the
Speaker 1: Browns as a feel good story, right.
Speaker 2: So a third and six the Chargers two a five.
Speaker 2: On third down, they go empty. Herbert, rolling to his right,
Speaker 2: sets his feet takes a.
Speaker 11: Shut down field two wide open thirty twenty five twenty
Speaker 11: turn on the Jets quintin touch.
Speaker 4: Down, Chargers sixty six yards.
Speaker 1: That was our friend, Matt money Smith KYSR. Thank you
Speaker 1: to whoever cut that highlight for making sure Daniel Jeremiah
Speaker 1: didn't get into it at all. I already have regrets
Speaker 1: about leading into this game and taking a shot at
Speaker 1: at Jamis. Yeah, he didn't have a good day of
Speaker 1: three interceptions, but frowns. They've been through enough, their fans
Speaker 1: have been through enough. Let's talk about the brightness of
Speaker 1: this game.
Speaker 2: At least to open the Chargers are five and three.
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, on the backing of his placement on quarterback Island,
Speaker 1: had another really clean game Nick against a good defense.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Greg, I know you like to tout when you're
Speaker 6: right about, you know, making prescient kicks like the Bills
Speaker 6: being a Super Bowl p me me, Justin Hurbert, meet you.
Speaker 7: Of all people, you Justin.
Speaker 6: Herbert playing like one of the best quarterbacks in the
Speaker 6: league over the last month and a half or so. Well,
Speaker 6: guess what, he had his best game of the season today,
Speaker 6: and it was because of the circumstances around him. Now,
Speaker 6: that highlight we played, that's a blown coverage. Brown's Blue
Speaker 6: two coverages for two touchdown passes. But it was still
Speaker 6: on Justin Herbert to find Josh Palmer for the first
Speaker 6: touchdown pass on a third and incredibly long I think
Speaker 6: it was third and twenty one. It was shocking to everybody,
Speaker 6: including everybody at the stadium in Cleveland. They were like,
Speaker 6: I can't believe they just gave up this play. But
Speaker 6: that's the illustration of who Herbert is because they got
Speaker 6: pressured a lot by this Browns defense, which played really
Speaker 6: well except for those blown coverages. In this game, he
Speaker 6: faced a pressure percentage over fifty percent, and yet he
Speaker 6: delivered debt all day, all afternoon. He was fantastic, and
Speaker 6: we had some interesting insight from next Gen stats that
Speaker 6: kind of captures the picture here because.
Speaker 7: The deep ball is working for him.
Speaker 6: In this last month, he was the most productive on
Speaker 6: passes over ten air yards. On Sunday, he completed seven
Speaker 6: to twelve downfield attempts for one hundred ninety six yards
Speaker 6: and two touchdowns. He's reached one hundred plus passing yards
Speaker 6: on downfield attempts in three straight games, and that was
Speaker 6: after he totaled a grand total of one hundred and
Speaker 6: forty five passing yards on such attempts in the first
Speaker 6: four weeks combined. He's balling right now and they're all
Speaker 6: benefiting from it. And they were clearly the better team
Speaker 6: on both sides of the ball in this game today.
Speaker 6: And for the first time this season, I saw the Chargers,
Speaker 6: who have good defense. We've talked about how they' physical
Speaker 6: and everything else. I saw them impose their will on
Speaker 6: an opposing offense and really shut down anything the Browns
Speaker 6: brought to the table. It was a resounding victory for them,
Speaker 6: and the first time where I look at them and think,
Speaker 6: you know what, if they can play like this every Sunday,
Speaker 6: they're going to be in the discussion before.
Speaker 7: I thought a little bit of fraud.
Speaker 6: Watch playing like this and the defense playing this well
Speaker 6: like they did on Sunday, Watch out for them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it would be very easy for somebody to pull
Speaker 5: up the fact that Josh Palmer right got ten point
Speaker 5: four yards of separation on his touchdown, it was seven
Speaker 5: yards of separation for Quentin Johnston on his and say, well,
Speaker 5: you know, Herbert was the beneficiary of these blown coverages.
Speaker 5: But Joe Alt gave up more pressures to Miles Garrett
Speaker 5: today than he has in his previous three games combined.
Speaker 5: Miles had three sacks early in this game, a lot
Speaker 5: of pressure for Herbo. In the run game, JK. Dobbins
Speaker 5: has most of the carries, goes for eighty five yards
Speaker 5: and two touchdowns. There was a great cutback that he
Speaker 5: had where the Chargers were just making these Again, a
Speaker 5: team in position that the tad wins, and you can
Speaker 5: see the reason that they won these games because when
Speaker 5: they get in position to make the play, if the
Speaker 5: play is out there to be made, the Chargers made
Speaker 5: it today and the Browns didn't a week after they
Speaker 5: made those plays to get a win against Baltimore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, JK.
Speaker 1: Dobbins goes for eighty five yards and two touchdowns on
Speaker 1: the ground, his first good running game in a while.
Speaker 1: Mconkey's turned into a very steady weekly option. Getting Quinton
Speaker 1: Johnston back is big for a team that needs as
Speaker 1: many weapons as they can. Explain to me, Shook, how
Speaker 1: this defense which has been really solid, I mean part
Speaker 1: of it has been opponent based, I admit, but they
Speaker 1: do a little extra and the Browns offense is coming
Speaker 1: off of a good performance instead today. Yeah, Jamis Winston.
Speaker 1: You mentioned the throws over ten yards for Herbert. Winston
Speaker 1: was nine for twenty on his throws, not much yardage,
Speaker 1: three interceptions and his touchdown on the day.
Speaker 2: How did they get it done? Well?
Speaker 6: First off, the Chargers did a great job up front
Speaker 6: with limiting the run. The Browns could not get anything
Speaker 6: going on the groun. Nick Chubb went fifteen for thirty
Speaker 6: nine yards. Okay, for the mental math experts at home,
Speaker 6: that's two point six yards per unity. I have the
Speaker 6: assistance of the box score in front of me right now.
Speaker 6: So they were one dimensional. And when you're one dimensional
Speaker 6: against Jameis Winston, what do you do? You mess up
Speaker 6: the picture? You make it difficult for him to find
Speaker 6: guys open. And they did it all day. I mean,
Speaker 6: he threw the classic Jameis Winston turnover worthy passes in
Speaker 6: bunches in this game. Now, one of them first two
Speaker 6: picks were actually kind of bad luck. One was tipped
Speaker 6: and caught in the end zone and another one he
Speaker 6: expected Cedric Tillman to win the leverage inside on a
Speaker 6: post and he just gave up on the route because
Speaker 6: he never won the leverage inside. And Jamis threw it
Speaker 6: as an anticipatory throw. But this offense just had nothing.
Speaker 6: They couldn't go anywhere because the couldn't run the ball,
Speaker 6: and Jamis kept turning the ball over. Even when they
Speaker 6: got close, they turned the ball over. They were beat
Speaker 6: at like a human level. We know that we are
Speaker 6: the inferior team here. The coaching staff of the Chargers
Speaker 6: was miles ahead of the Browns staff on both sides.
Speaker 6: Jesse Minner put together a great defensive game plan, and
Speaker 6: Greg Roman was running circles around this Brown's defense on
Speaker 6: those blown plays and on some of the bigger plays
Speaker 6: they did. I thought the most impressive play of the
Speaker 6: entire day was the cutback that Patrick just mentioned on
Speaker 6: the Jake Dobbin's touchdown run. It was blocked perfectly, like
Speaker 6: one of the best block plays I've seen all year,
Speaker 6: to where it was an easy run into the end zone.
Speaker 6: That's just the sign of a team that's better coached
Speaker 6: and better prepared and executes better.
Speaker 1: And are getting great production out of those two rookie corners.
Speaker 1: I was talking about. It's Cam hart Ta Heep still season.
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh was honking about it after the game, just
Speaker 1: saying he thanks God that he has these two guys,
Speaker 1: and they're getting Tully Pilot with two and a half
Speaker 1: sacks in this game, Morgan Fox with a couple of sacks,
Speaker 1: So getting a lot of production. And yeah, the Browns
Speaker 1: are at two and seven, and this was a comeback
Speaker 1: to Earth game kind of of like you thought, maybe
Speaker 1: jam is gonna lead us to have some fun, and
Speaker 1: I think they'll have more fun down the stretch than
Speaker 1: they would have without him. But they are going to
Speaker 1: be sellers at the trade deadline that's coming up on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: We have Mike Garatfolo in the studio for a post
Speaker 1: trade deadline spectacular, so that'll be a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: Zadarias Smith could be leaving the Browns. We'll see if
Speaker 1: anyone else is. Let's take a quick break, our last break,
Speaker 1: I hope, so we'll be back talk a little.
Speaker 2: Falcons Cowboys on the other.
Speaker 19: Side, Atlanta one for five on third down.
Speaker 2: They're going four on fourth to two?
Speaker 5: All up here?
Speaker 19: Yeah, empty set for Cousins. Cowboys showing pressure. Snap the
Speaker 19: kirk here they come. Gotta get rid of it.
Speaker 12: Line for Mooning twenty fifteen ten five touchdown Atlanta fourth
Speaker 12: and one is the home run ball for Darnel Mooning.
Speaker 1: A fourth down decision that resulted in a touchdown for
Speaker 1: Darnell Mooney, their leading receiver five for eighty eight and
Speaker 1: a touchdown. He might have to be their leading receiver
Speaker 1: for a minute here. Drake London left this game with
Speaker 1: a hip injury. But no more bad news for the
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons. They're on a streak twenty seven to twenty one.
Speaker 1: They beat the Dallas Cowboys to get to six and
Speaker 1: three atop the NFC South. The Cowboys becoming irrelevant and
Speaker 1: Kirk o Chain just keeps finding a way.
Speaker 2: To get it.
Speaker 1: I guess you just don't have to move to play
Speaker 1: quarterback at the NFL.
Speaker 5: There was actually a very lengthy play in the pocket
Speaker 5: where Kirk Cousins kind of evaded pressure. Okay for a while.
Speaker 5: Kirk hung in there and made a throw to Bjeon
Speaker 5: Robinson who got some yards after the catch. Who Bijon
Speaker 5: goes nineteen carries for eighty six yards. The defense does enough.
Speaker 5: Dak Prescott actually leaves this game with a hamstring injury.
Speaker 5: Cooper Rush comes in late. Falcons play it safe, allow
Speaker 5: some short completions. Ceedee Lamb, playing with the shoulder injury
Speaker 5: in this game, eventually left with that shoulder injury, which
Speaker 5: was kind of emblematic of the situation for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 5: It's all on Ceede Lamb showal to really provide the
Speaker 5: production for this passing offense. We've said it week to week.
Speaker 5: Dak goes eighteen of twenty four for one thirty three.
Speaker 5: He has a touchdown. The Cowboys are in this game,
Speaker 5: but on plays like that on the defensive side. On
Speaker 5: the highlight for you guys watching on the podcast, Darnell
Speaker 5: Mooney runs a wheel route. Cowboys are in man. Three
Speaker 5: Cowboys defenders run into each other, leaving Darnell Mooney wide
Speaker 5: open for that touchdown. On fourth down where Rahem Morris
Speaker 5: is making these fourth down calls. The Falcons, if I'm
Speaker 5: not mistaken, got every fourth down that they went for
Speaker 5: in this game where Dallas just could not make the place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you're giving up a lot of pressures to
Speaker 1: the Falcons pass rush, it means it's broken. And for
Speaker 1: Dak to leave this game with an injury, CD eventually leaves,
Speaker 1: Zeke didn't even make the trip our. Jane Slater reports
Speaker 1: that he's been quote distracted for much of this season
Speaker 1: and has been late to team meetings just for I
Speaker 1: don't know. This is supposed to be the foundation. Not
Speaker 1: that Zeke is that important of a player, but he
Speaker 1: just everything for this team and their schedule makes you
Speaker 1: feel like they should be sellers and that they could
Speaker 1: end up with a pretty high draft pick forget about
Speaker 1: contending for the playoffs.
Speaker 6: Nick, Yeah, well, first off, that's strangely ambiguous, and I
Speaker 6: think that points to a larger issue at hand with
Speaker 6: these Cowboys. But really, if you look at them just
Speaker 6: like just simply they are they have a bare cupboard
Speaker 6: right now. All the injuries that have impacted them on
Speaker 6: both sides of the ball, Dak getting hurt in this game,
Speaker 6: CD playing through injury, and he still hasn't quite been
Speaker 6: on the same page with Dak over the last month.
Speaker 6: They've had a lot of miscommunications that have result in
Speaker 6: turnovers and everything else. I mean, Jerry Jones spoke this
Speaker 6: week about how if we just cut down on the turnovers,
Speaker 6: you know, the opportunity is still there. We know how
Speaker 6: Dak can play in between the turnovers, and we have
Speaker 6: a great coach at Mike McCarthy. You're patching things up
Speaker 6: with the stuff that's not going to hold. The foundation
Speaker 6: itself is cracked and there's really nowhere to turn. So
Speaker 6: as much as the Cowboys want to be contenders, a
Speaker 6: loss like this that drops you to three and five
Speaker 6: with the trade deadline approaching, I think I agree with you, Greg,
Speaker 6: I think they become sellers. I think they admit that, look,
Speaker 6: we don't have a good enough roster to compete. We're
Speaker 6: two banged up, We're not going to catch the other
Speaker 6: teams in our division. We might as well sell Because
Speaker 6: games like this where you lose by six points, granted
Speaker 6: with a touchdown in the final two minutes, that should
Speaker 6: be informative to you that you're just not good enough.
Speaker 6: This year, and maybe you need to reset now. On
Speaker 6: the Falcon side, Kirk keeps slinging it baby. Three touchdowns,
Speaker 6: and that touchdown pass to Darnel Mooney that we just
Speaker 6: played looked a lot like that first Kyle Pitts touchdown
Speaker 6: pass against the Buccaneers, which also came on fourth down.
Speaker 6: I love the aggression of the Falcons right now. They're
Speaker 6: playing with no regard for what could possibly go wrong.
Speaker 7: They don't care. They're flying high and they win another one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no way that they were going to lose on
Speaker 1: outcast sweatshirt Day. I don't know if it was officially that,
Speaker 1: but they started selling them. They started selling them over
Speaker 1: the weekend. And yeah, the Cowboys go to Philadelphia or
Speaker 1: they have Philadelphia in Dallas next week, then Texans at Commanders.
Speaker 1: It's feeling grim.
Speaker 2: For this team.
Speaker 1: We'll see if Dak can play next week. They'll need
Speaker 1: that to happen. And I give the Falcons credit for
Speaker 1: stacking up these wins against teams that they should be
Speaker 1: because I didn't know that they were going to be
Speaker 1: in a position really to do that all season.
Speaker 16: Hey, Greg, real quick before we jump games. Okay, we
Speaker 16: have a little surprise for you. A few weeks back,
Speaker 16: maybe a month back. Now we exchange in our group
Speaker 16: chat a picture of a giveaway a two lane and
Speaker 16: of course there's some two lane flavor to this recap
Speaker 16: with Darnell Mooney and you yourself.
Speaker 2: We've got Randy Shavis.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're not watching on YouTube, yeah, just
Speaker 1: seeing Randy's back is Randy worth it.
Speaker 16: Randy spearheaded this idea, so we tracked down a two
Speaker 16: lane throwback football.
Speaker 1: This is amazing, not only the most beautiful helmet in
Speaker 1: the world, but also has a nice children's hospital New
Speaker 1: Orleans support them, two lane Green Wave helmet.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: I mean, Darnell Mooney representing the Green Wave proudly, but hell,
Speaker 1: the Green Wave are representing the Green Wave proudly.
Speaker 2: Are we in the top twenty five?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 2: I need to check because they.
Speaker 1: Were twenty eight also receiving votes before they won on
Speaker 1: Halloween Night.
Speaker 5: The preposterous CFB poll coming out on Tuesday, where it's
Speaker 5: just it's all vibes.
Speaker 1: Wait, we gotta wait till Tuesday, Yeah, we gotta wait
Speaker 1: till Tuesday.
Speaker 2: I was wondering how to be a show who cares.
Speaker 5: About actual principles and figuring it out and what the
Speaker 5: votes mean. Just make it a big TV show and
Speaker 5: slap everybody in the face.
Speaker 7: Well you know Election Tuesday where you honor the team
Speaker 7: that just splattered Charlotte on national television.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, Tulane, they could be in that
Speaker 1: top twenty five and they should be.
Speaker 2: They should be after beating Temple this weekend.
Speaker 5: Well I shouldn't.
Speaker 2: I shouldn't get them.
Speaker 1: To assume it's gonna happen, and I'm going to enjoy it.
Speaker 1: They're seven to two, they've won six straight because the
Speaker 1: other team I root for doesn't have as many wins
Speaker 1: in their future.
Speaker 2: Hasty in the backfield with bank Waite, Fake May looking deep,
Speaker 2: throwing deep. Booty is there, but.
Speaker 10: Hook came over again it Hooker.
Speaker 2: Came over to get it. Check it, knee head, it's over.
Speaker 10: It's ober him, Buddy Hooker, his third pick up the year,
Speaker 10: his second of the day, and he saves the day.
Speaker 1: Yes, Amani Hooker gets it done. That was Mike Keith
Speaker 1: Dave McGinnis wg FX. The Titans hang on to win
Speaker 1: twenty to seventeen. At first, I had this one way,
Speaker 1: I'll higher up in the show because it deserves to
Speaker 1: be included in the drunk games, but not as relevant
Speaker 1: and so it would have maybe been showing my Patriots
Speaker 1: by Drake May does a little bit of everything, has
Speaker 1: a crazy game, tying touchdown to force it to overtime,
Speaker 1: and then an underthrown ball thrown into the win by
Speaker 1: Drake May's estimation said he should have put more on
Speaker 1: it and he thought he would have had the arm
Speaker 1: to do it, but comes up short, as do the Patriots.
Speaker 1: Twenty to seventeen, Nick the Patriots sat Kyle Duggar, kJ
Speaker 1: Osborne and Taekwon Thornton, perhaps in a pre trade talk idea,
Speaker 1: or they're gonna they're gonna trade them, like because they
Speaker 1: sat josh Ucha weekuld Go before trading him.
Speaker 2: The Titans get a win.
Speaker 1: Hey, everyone deserves to win every once in a while,
Speaker 1: and the Titans needed this one.
Speaker 2: They're two and six.
Speaker 7: This game felt on just visual, just eye test alone.
Speaker 6: I was like, this game matches their records like these
Speaker 6: are both teams with one or two wins and they're
Speaker 6: battling all the way to overtime to try to scratch
Speaker 6: out another win. I gotta give a lot of credit
Speaker 6: to drink Man. I know the Patriots lost, but he
Speaker 6: played well and he also engineered a drive that included
Speaker 6: a last second, no time left in the clock, desperate
Speaker 6: throw into the end zone under pressure to Ramandre Stevenson
Speaker 6: to send this game to overtime. He also ran eight
Speaker 6: times for ninety five yards and led them and rushing.
Speaker 6: I felt like they kind of deserve to win, but
Speaker 6: they are the Patriots. Whereas on the Titans side, you
Speaker 6: got Mason Rudolph again filling in for Will Levis, does
Speaker 6: a good enough job, throws a pick that was you know,
Speaker 6: it was a high ball and a tight end, you.
Speaker 7: Know, like a tunnel screen along the goal.
Speaker 6: I don't know why you're quite running that on that situation,
Speaker 6: but it ends up in the hands of the Patriots.
Speaker 6: Ugly game that matches their records, but still in an
Speaker 6: entertaining game. And Tony Pollard twenty eight for one, twenty
Speaker 6: eight nice little performance for him.
Speaker 1: I love that you mentioned Pollard, who I keep mentioning
Speaker 1: is is would help this Cowboys team so much and
Speaker 1: has been one of the better running backs in the league,
Speaker 1: like a top ten running back this year. He's leading
Speaker 1: the NFL in yards after contact and he's stuck on
Speaker 1: this team that just can't help him out. So a
Speaker 1: great job by the Thames. Let's listen to that play.
Speaker 1: I have not listened to this yet, but I am curious.
Speaker 1: I want, I want a little Zolac of May's game
Speaker 1: tie and touchdown.
Speaker 20: The snap to May back two steps, looks to the
Speaker 20: end zone. He pumps, he backs up, He slides left.
Speaker 20: He looks in the left corner. Now he rolls to
Speaker 20: his right. He pulls up in the middle of the field.
Speaker 20: Drake May alludes a defender running to his left, looking
Speaker 20: into the end zone, trying to keep the play alive.
Speaker 2: Falling down, he throws.
Speaker 5: To the end zone.
Speaker 2: It's clean touchdown on Stevenson.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, man.
Speaker 20: Left dude right bobbing and weaving, singing it.
Speaker 2: He's shagging.
Speaker 20: He tosses the bone Romadrie Stevenson and the Patriots are
Speaker 20: an extra pot away.
Speaker 5: Absolute stun silence from Zolac during the first because Drake
Speaker 5: May had that ball for eleven seconds before he threw it. Uh,
Speaker 5: by the way, stun silence, but you can hear Zolac
Speaker 5: building in the silence and then finally erupting as Drake
Speaker 5: May makes it. Makes what could have been the play
Speaker 5: of the day of Saquon to jump over somebody backwards, Yes,
Speaker 5: for no reason, just in an incredible moment from Saquon.
Speaker 5: We talked about that already, but that the number two
Speaker 5: play of the day from Drake May with was zero's
Speaker 5: on the clock.
Speaker 1: I know if he didn't look so tired, I know
Speaker 1: that wasn't that wasn't part of Drod Mayo's thinking him
Speaker 1: not going for two there, But May looked a little
Speaker 1: gassed right, Well, yeah it was. It was the second
Speaker 1: longest touchdown completion in terms of holding the ball in
Speaker 1: the Next Gen stats era behind Can you guess Daniel's Hill? Mary, Yeah,
Speaker 1: last week. There you go, just a proposters play. And
Speaker 1: it's crazy because May did a lot of crazy things
Speaker 1: in this game, and yet when they got the ball
Speaker 1: back at the end, I was like, and they only
Speaker 1: scored one touchdown all a game. I was like, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised at all if they just scored a
Speaker 1: touchdown here.
Speaker 2: In fact, I kind of think they will. And somehow
Speaker 2: he made it happen.
Speaker 1: It was a very composed drive before that play, which
Speaker 1: was crazy, and he let you know like he was
Speaker 1: not worried about you know, getting a concussion last week.
Speaker 1: Literally the second play of the game, he runs up
Speaker 1: the middle for twenty six yards and doesn't slide and
Speaker 1: like takes a pretty big hit to the mid section
Speaker 1: on that plate earlier in that tying touchdown drive. You
Speaker 1: missed to Mario Davis, like it is up and down,
Speaker 1: but he needed a TD.
Speaker 2: He got it. He's their best player. They're a mess.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: It was just a lot going on in this game.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if the Patriots deserved to win
Speaker 1: because they were outgained by like one hundred. They lost
Speaker 1: the turnover battle, the time of possession, they lost. Their
Speaker 1: offensive line is absolutely terrible, especially in run blocking. Ramandre
Speaker 1: who's a really good player, had sixteen yards on ten carries,
Speaker 1: So it's like that's all blocking. They could not pick
Speaker 1: up a yard to save their life at one point.
Speaker 1: And so that's why I don't kill them for not
Speaker 1: going for two. And yet I wanted them to go
Speaker 1: for two.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because you have an opportunity to win the game
Speaker 6: and you're not a good football team. And it was
Speaker 6: a flog of a game in itself. By the way,
Speaker 6: that completion probability on that throw fifteen point eight percent.
Speaker 6: I don't know where that ranks, but it's pretty good
Speaker 6: for a rookie. They have a quarterback, They have the guy.
Speaker 6: They just need to make sure they don't break him
Speaker 6: and start adding to the around him.
Speaker 2: But they don't have anything else though. I think they're now.
Speaker 1: I think they're the worst team in the NFL other
Speaker 1: than Drake may Like, if you just took out the
Speaker 1: quarterback position, Oh for sure, I really think they are.
Speaker 2: Who knows, I mean, you can't really measure that.
Speaker 1: Also that the Titans got a little bit of luck.
Speaker 1: They drive down the Patriots' throats after Mayo decides to
Speaker 1: go to overtime, but they have a fumbled snap on
Speaker 1: third down inside the ten yard line and that ball
Speaker 1: is up for grabs and Mason Rudolph gets it back.
Speaker 1: So that's the best play of Mason Rudolphs Titans.
Speaker 2: Gray got the ball back on the fumble.
Speaker 5: But and again i''ll triple down on the play of
Speaker 5: Tony Poller. Tony Hollar had thirty plus yards on that
Speaker 5: drive in overtime, making something out of nothing. Every single
Speaker 5: all they had. All they had to do was so
Speaker 5: facilitate the exchange between the quarterback and the center and
Speaker 5: hand the ball off to Tony Pollard, and they almost
Speaker 5: they almost messed it up entirely basic. Rudolf able to
Speaker 5: get back on top of that ball. But that's the
Speaker 5: reason they got that field goal. That the Drake may
Speaker 5: interception ends the game, because otherwise it could have been
Speaker 5: absolute calamity for the Titans.
Speaker 1: But they I was kind of hoping for a tie here.
Speaker 1: I thought, maybe we get Yeah.
Speaker 7: We were very much in the ties. What I tweeted
Speaker 7: about on the next.
Speaker 1: Players because Mayo used all of his time outs just
Speaker 1: to stop his defense from being tired, which I guess
Speaker 1: I get.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Let's listen to Brian Callahan after the game. You're saying, really,
Speaker 1: we're going to listen to a quote from a losing
Speaker 1: a winning coach on a two and sixteen. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like, this is for the Titans fans out there,
Speaker 1: This is for Mike Keith, this is for Grave Digger,
Speaker 1: this is for Brian Callahan.
Speaker 5: Just how bad? Like, did you guys need this today?
Speaker 5: I look at me, I needed a bad man. It was, yeah,
Speaker 5: we needed him.
Speaker 1: Callahan was pretty emotional a couple times during that press
Speaker 1: conference it wears on you this losing. So good for
Speaker 1: the Titans getting their second win of the year. Let's
Speaker 1: go to another sogfest. That was kind of fun in Carolina.
Speaker 9: Panthers trying to stop a five game losing streak. Saints
Speaker 9: have lost six.
Speaker 5: In a row.
Speaker 9: Crowd at Bank of America Stadium to its feet. Fourth
Speaker 9: and four comes down to this car out of the shotgun.
Speaker 5: Here's the snap in the pocket.
Speaker 9: Car floats at deep devil upside for Wilson and has juggled.
Speaker 2: Then complete Carolina takes over.
Speaker 9: It has been a long time since we have lined
Speaker 9: up in victory formation on this field.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good for the Carolina Panthers twenty three to twenty two.
Speaker 1: That was a niche Strafs from wr ch f X
Speaker 1: in Carolina. We haven't had to call that name too
Speaker 1: often this season. Yeah, Derek Carr and the Saints had
Speaker 1: a chance to set up for a game winning field goal.
Speaker 2: They don't really get that close, and Bryce.
Speaker 1: Young kneels it out and that must have put a
Speaker 1: smile on Patrick Claybonn's face.
Speaker 5: Yeah it did, because the conversation about Bryce Young just
Speaker 5: being completely unviable as the season began, where the offense
Speaker 5: wasn't good. He gets bench for Andy Dalton. Andy Dalton
Speaker 5: comes in and it's like, oh, the Carolina Panthers exist
Speaker 5: now because Andy Dalton's there, and he gets back in,
Speaker 5: albeit due to when Andy Dalton injury. Gets this win
Speaker 5: over a team that they got run out of the
Speaker 5: stadium by in the first week of the season, and
Speaker 5: now it seems like they are not just seems these
Speaker 5: two teams moving in completely different directions. The Panthers are
Speaker 5: not a good football team by any stretch, but they
Speaker 5: come through beat up the Saints, This beat up Saints
Speaker 5: team towards the end where Chris o'lave has to leave
Speaker 5: this game with another concussion. He's taken to the hospital,
Speaker 5: got updates from his brother letting us know that he
Speaker 5: was texting him. Fine, they eventually make it back into
Speaker 5: the locker room after the game. But even in that
Speaker 5: final fourth down decision where they need four yards and
Speaker 5: it's a shot played down the sideline, where you're wondering
Speaker 5: the decision making, the play calling, the execution just all
Speaker 5: bad right now for the Saints, culminating in a loss
Speaker 5: to a team again that they humiliated in the first week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great call, like the difference between how
Speaker 1: it started and how it and they're throwing it to
Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson. I know they're banged up, but they they
Speaker 1: get two hundred and fifteen yards from scrimmage from Alvin Kamara.
Speaker 1: In this game, they out gained the Panthers four twenty
Speaker 1: seven to two forty six.
Speaker 2: They find a way to lose it.
Speaker 1: Bill Barnell pointed out teams that had outgained their opponent
Speaker 1: by one hundred and fifty yards, run for one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty yards and won the turnover battle had been
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy five and zero and now it's
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy five and one.
Speaker 2: That is That is your New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 1: And we are definitely on on Dennis Allen possibly getting fired.
Speaker 1: You know this week watch he has the third worst
Speaker 1: winning percentage of all time by by any coach. And
Speaker 1: after the game, I read this article by Nick Underhill
Speaker 1: on New Orleans football and he just wrote that some
Speaker 1: guys in the locker room aren't really that that he's
Speaker 1: kind of lost the locker room. And he didn't he
Speaker 1: put it a little vaguely, but he did have a
Speaker 1: quote from Alvin Kamara, who said, look, guys want to
Speaker 1: win in this locker room for each other. And he
Speaker 1: very clearly saying we want to win for each other.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe not the guy running running the plays, and
Speaker 1: and it was a little vague how he said that
Speaker 1: they lost the locker room, but it's in there in
Speaker 1: the article.
Speaker 5: And uh, how do you feel about it? To me,
Speaker 5: how do you feel about it?
Speaker 2: It's rough cake.
Speaker 1: Kaylen Saunders after the game was tweeting some of my
Speaker 1: favorite tweets by an NFL player this year. He said,
Speaker 1: if that was a college bowl game, that MF would
Speaker 1: have been called the Cottonell Doodoo Bowl.
Speaker 2: We just lost the Cottonell Doodoo Bowl. Shaking my head.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then like even before they said mf's his cheek bones,
Speaker 1: like New Orleans, y'all does have bet? I mean, is
Speaker 1: he calling his own team cheek bones? Just the whole
Speaker 1: game he was called the Panthers. Oh okay, he's calling
Speaker 1: the Panthers cheek bones. You lost, Yeah, they lost two
Speaker 1: bunch of cheek bones.
Speaker 6: Which I don't know if it makes me think about
Speaker 6: silence of the lamps. So that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 6: I think that that We are one hundred percent, firmly,
Speaker 6: very much on Dennis Allen watch rightfully. So it makes
Speaker 6: you a question why he retained the job after last
Speaker 6: year and after breaking the two hundred and twenty five
Speaker 6: game win streak that you just spoke of. I can't
Speaker 6: imagine a scenario in which he preserves his job. They
Speaker 6: started to and oh, they've lost seven straight. And even
Speaker 6: after they got Derek carrback and put up over four
Speaker 6: hundred yards of offense, they looked like a pretty good offense.
Speaker 6: They couldn't finish the job to go five for fifteen
Speaker 6: on third down. They lose to the Panthers in Carolina
Speaker 6: in a game that was very winnable, and on the
Speaker 6: fourth and four they throw the ball up when Alvin
Speaker 6: Kamara's got one hundred and fifty five yards to his name.
Speaker 7: What are we doing? What are we doing? We are
Speaker 7: marching toward the end of the Dennis Allen era, slowly
Speaker 7: and painfully, with half of us season left to go.
Speaker 1: Yeah and yeah, shout out to Jendevian Sanders, a rookie
Speaker 1: who gets eighty seven yards sixty two yards yac Like
Speaker 1: Bryce Young, His only interception on the day was on
Speaker 1: a total dime that was was stolen by the defender
Speaker 1: Jalen Coker. Xavier like get gets in the end zone.
Speaker 1: I want to give a little bit of credit to
Speaker 1: the Panthers. Enjoy this win. But some of these quotes
Speaker 1: are just crazy. The one from Kamara says I can
Speaker 1: keep going when he's talking about all the things that
Speaker 1: aren't going. Well, we got guys, I'm naming names. I
Speaker 1: think there's confidence there, but there might not be confidence
Speaker 1: in something else.
Speaker 5: Well it's like, what's the something else, Alvin?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and number three.
Speaker 5: I there was another Kaylin Saunders tweet where he said,
Speaker 5: fans say, keep losing so we can get number one
Speaker 5: pick hell, throw me in at quarterback and let's have
Speaker 5: something fun to watch.
Speaker 1: Okay, that would that would be that would be fun,
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, it's it's at At one point, Cam
Speaker 1: Jordan he only played ten snaps in this game, like
Speaker 1: punched like the bench, and he was seen kind of
Speaker 1: having to be brought to the locker room by Derek
Speaker 1: Carr as he was like very frustrated after the game.
Speaker 1: It's just it's a tough scene. And you do wonder
Speaker 1: that ownership hasn't always been maybe as hands on Mickey Loomis,
Speaker 1: I think has as much power as any executive in
Speaker 1: the league, And just got me wonder, like, how bad
Speaker 1: does it have to get for maybe some attention to
Speaker 1: be on Mickey Loomis, maybe not being the one who
Speaker 1: was making all these decisions because da, that's one thing.
Speaker 1: We know how that's gonna end up. But that's one
Speaker 1: thing I'm watching for the rest of the year. Gonna
Speaker 1: be watching this Sunday Night football game as well. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be watching Patrick Claybahn say goodbye to from the
Speaker 1: Chris Westling Pote guest Dudy, thank.
Speaker 5: You, sir, Thank you guys.
Speaker 2: All right to Sunday Night.
Speaker 19: Second and eleven from the Colts fourteen Jones the single
Speaker 19: set Addison in motion to the right, play action from
Speaker 19: under center.
Speaker 5: Donald to the zone.
Speaker 7: Touchdown.
Speaker 3: Josh Oliver put a touchdown just stretchfully did twenty ten.
Speaker 2: Kfan Paul Allen.
Speaker 1: Bikings hit the extra point, They give up a meeaningless
Speaker 1: late field goal and Justin Jefferson of course gets the
Speaker 1: onside kick attempt, nice one by Matt Gabe. Bikings win
Speaker 1: this Sunday Night Football twenty one to thirteen here with
Speaker 1: Nick Shook, and that was a fitting highlight. Sam Darnold,
Speaker 1: after making some mistakes in a game as he does,
Speaker 1: hits a nice touchdown on the move on a nice
Speaker 1: play call, as Sam Darnold does, as Kevin O'Connell does,
Speaker 1: Vikings back in the win column.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was funny because in the lead up to
Speaker 6: that snap, Chris collins Worth just talking about how I
Speaker 6: wouldn't based on how the mistakes they've made tonight, I
Speaker 6: wouldn't trust the passing game, and then they immediately run
Speaker 6: a bootleg away from his throwing arm and he hits
Speaker 6: Josh Oliver wide open for a touchdown. It illustrates the
Speaker 6: confidence that Kevin O'Connell has and Sam Darnold leaving on
Speaker 6: a night where he threw two picks, including a pick
Speaker 6: that followed a Joe Flacco.
Speaker 7: Pick, it seemed like it was gonna make the game interesting.
Speaker 6: And yet this is where the Vikings are a big
Speaker 6: win for them after losing two straight, they get back
Speaker 6: on the winning track. They beat a Colts team that
Speaker 6: decided to pull the plug on Anthony Richardson at least
Speaker 6: for now, by shutting them down defensively. Brian Flores puts
Speaker 6: together a great game plan messes up the picture for
Speaker 6: Joe Flacco. You could see him hesit been in the
Speaker 6: pocket for most of the night. He finishes with under
Speaker 6: two hundred passing yards. It's not the same explosive offense
Speaker 6: we saw from him the last time he started this season,
Speaker 6: and the Vikings get back in the win column and
Speaker 6: back on track.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Flacco was four for ten for fifty yards in
Speaker 1: an interception under pressure.
Speaker 2: It wasn't just.
Speaker 1: Like the interception for instance, which was a bad throw.
Speaker 1: It was the decision making on a drive where they're
Speaker 1: still in the game, late down a score, he passes
Speaker 1: on an easy open checkdown for a first down instead
Speaker 1: pushing the ball down the field.
Speaker 2: It gets deflected.
Speaker 1: The next play on fourth down also gets deflected when
Speaker 1: he's under pressure. Harrison Smith with a couple nice plays there.
Speaker 1: There was an early play in the game where he
Speaker 1: just gets panicked before the pressure even gets there and
Speaker 1: kind of sails a checkdown throw early, a deflection on
Speaker 1: third and five. Another one where he's on the move
Speaker 1: and there is a receiver open I think it was Pittman,
Speaker 1: and he kind of throws it at his feet because
Speaker 1: he's not used to throwing the ball on the move.
Speaker 1: I was thinking, well, I don't know if Anthony Richard
Speaker 1: hits that throw, but Anthony Richardson would have a better
Speaker 1: chance on that throw. So the Colts only gets six
Speaker 1: points on offense on a night where they do get
Speaker 1: a defensive score on a turnover on a Sam Darnold
Speaker 1: fumble that was returned for a touchdown. The Colts did
Speaker 1: not hit the red zone all night. So if nothing else,
Speaker 1: we're back to Brian Flores's defense can make a substandard
Speaker 1: offense who was starting a few backups on the offensive
Speaker 1: line looked just absolutely terrible, and that could take you
Speaker 1: a long way. He might not take you to the
Speaker 1: top of the NFC or even this division in the end,
Speaker 1: but it gets them to six in two. If you
Speaker 1: can beat up on the bad teams, that's going to
Speaker 1: be huge for them.
Speaker 6: Yeah, especially in offense, it's pretty one dimensional when Anthony
Speaker 6: Richardson is not involved. Jonathan Taylor's numbers with Joe Flack
Speaker 6: on the field of not been good. They were not
Speaker 6: good tonight and late when they had to throw the football,
Speaker 6: you could tell they could just pin their ears back
Speaker 6: and get after them. They sacked him multiple times. He
Speaker 6: looked uncomfortable. He looked uncomfortable for most of the night.
Speaker 6: And I don't know if it leads to this, because
Speaker 6: Shane Stikeen was pretty definitive when he made the switch
Speaker 6: to Joe Flacco, but a lot of people have reason
Speaker 6: to criticize his decision.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 6: I know it's only one game, and I know that
Speaker 6: the sample size before, while small, was very productive. But
Speaker 6: at this point, at four and five, now the questions
Speaker 6: are justified. What do you do from here? You made
Speaker 6: the switch to Jill Flacco because you need to win games.
Speaker 6: You put up thirteen points, you put up six offensive points.
Speaker 6: That obviously is not good enough to win a game.
Speaker 6: So it's gonna be an interesting time for the Colts where.
Speaker 2: They're not going back.
Speaker 1: They're not going back this week, at least they got
Speaker 1: the Bills. I think they looked at this schedule and
Speaker 1: thought it was going to be ugly and thought Flacco
Speaker 1: gave them a better chance to win. Maybe that turned
Speaker 1: out not to be true tonight. Richardson probably would have
Speaker 1: struggled in this game too. But they have the Bills
Speaker 1: next week that that's a home game. Then they're at
Speaker 1: the Jets, you know, playing better defense. I suppose at
Speaker 1: least for a week, and then the Lions. We'll see
Speaker 1: if Flacco gets through all those games. If he plays
Speaker 1: this poorly each week, yeah, he might not get through
Speaker 1: all of those games.
Speaker 2: But they're at four and five. The Texans, who are a.
Speaker 1: Little bit of a mess right now, are feeling like, Okay,
Speaker 1: thank thank you, Minnesota Vikings, thank you Justin Jefferson. Yes,
Speaker 1: I should mentionine Justin Jefferson one hundred and thirty seven
Speaker 1: yards on seven catches. The NBC showed the stat that
Speaker 1: he was just eating up off coverage because the one
Speaker 1: time they played him in press, at least the one target,
Speaker 1: they hit him down the field for a big gainer.
Speaker 2: And look, Donald made three growners.
Speaker 1: I mean, the fumble was typical Donald taking a bad
Speaker 1: sack where he's backing up and it was quick pressure.
Speaker 1: But he tends to make bad protection worse. And he
Speaker 1: took four sacks in this game. Both quarterbacks did. But
Speaker 1: even though he had a couple interceptions, even though he
Speaker 1: had the turnover on the fubble, the throws he had
Speaker 1: were quite excellent, So I give him credit. I give
Speaker 1: Gino Smith, for instance, credit for always continuing to keep
Speaker 1: firing after making mistakes, and Sam Donald has a good
Speaker 1: tendency to do that too. They had no points at halftime.
Speaker 1: They put up three touchdowns in the second half. The
Speaker 1: play to Addison was an awesome throw and an awesome
Speaker 1: catch where Addison one hands it, and ultimately they did
Speaker 1: more than enough on a night where Aaron Jones was
Speaker 1: a little up and down.
Speaker 2: Sam Donald really had to get it done.
Speaker 7: I will say they have nice little ones who punched
Speaker 7: that backfield.
Speaker 6: Cam Akers, who you know, we liked him in the
Speaker 6: preseason with the Texans, Yeah, made the team. They acquire
Speaker 6: him on October fifteenth, and he serves a nice little
Speaker 6: spellback role tonight, especially when they're putting the game away late.
Speaker 7: So I like the way that they're built. You're gonna
Speaker 7: take to go with the battle.
Speaker 5: Dam Darnold.
Speaker 6: I'm starting to get like case keenum vibes from that
Speaker 6: year that he was their quarterback. Okay, a little bit
Speaker 6: higher ceiling his better game. His best games have been
Speaker 6: much better than the Kingdom's best games were at that time.
Speaker 7: But you are going to get some mistakes from time
Speaker 7: to time.
Speaker 6: But if they can weather that storm, and they usually
Speaker 6: do with that defense, and they're still going to be
Speaker 6: right in the race.
Speaker 1: Right only six incompletions on eight on a thirty four attempts,
Speaker 1: now two of them were caught by the other team
Speaker 1: and there was a fumble, But that's the experience. They
Speaker 1: are a good team. The Colts right now are feel
Speaker 1: lucky to be four and five. And yeah, shout out
Speaker 1: to the listeners that have been with NFL Daily since
Speaker 1: the preseason. When Shookie and I were doing Sunday Night
Speaker 1: preseason and talking about k makers, that was like our
Speaker 1: lead story back then. We're just getting rolling through nine weeks.
Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone who helped out on this show. Randy Chavez,
Speaker 1: what a sweet guy bringing me this two lane helmet.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Randy, Yes.
Speaker 1: Thank you to Eric behind the glass Shook in Cleveland,
Speaker 1: Patrick Clayban of course doing a great job. And yeah,
Speaker 1: when Sam Darnold's making big mistakes but making big plays,
Speaker 1: you know football is back.
Speaker 2: See you Monday night.