1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Guess what, We're back in the NBA party train keeps 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: moving exactly. You thought we wouldn't be back, but guess what, 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: we would never make it to episode nineteen. But yes, 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: let's not digress. We are going to check in on 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: the latest rumors with Russell Westbrook, maybe a career change 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: for Dwight Howard. We'll also talk about what's going on 7 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: with Lebron Draymond, Colin Sexton, and probably get through our 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: mad boost these winner of the Dunk of the season, 9 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: because it is Dunk week for the m b A 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: and who better to do it with than today's guest. 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: We have sp Nations NBA editor Harrison Fagan. I'm Miles 12 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: Gray and I'm Jack O'Brien and this is my mad Boost. Okay, 13 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: so that was pretty yeah, I'm like perfectly on wild 14 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: like what we had a mind meld at that moment. Okay, Welcome, welcome, Welcome. 15 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: We got Harrison Fagan in the building. Harrison, welcome to 16 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: Miles and Jack got mad boosts. How you doing, I'm 17 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: doing well, Thank you guys for having me. I gotta 18 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: say that was weirdly specific trash talk at the beginning 19 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: for someone to say that you wouldn't make it to 20 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: episode nineteen. Like like if somebody would have said, like, 21 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: you guys won't make it twenty episodes, that would have 22 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: been you know, like more boiler play. They really got 23 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: specific on you. They're like, no, no, no, there's no 24 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: way you guys can put up with for more than 25 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: eighteen episodes. You know, what can I say? It's just 26 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: a mother's intuition. Um, that's that she constantly. Yeah, I'm like, 27 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: if that's what you're feeling, mom, maybe she's like you're lucky. 28 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: It's like, why are you talking like that? Like you're 29 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: an old gumshoot film. But yeah, you played her the 30 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: first episode and she said, I give it eighteen episodes. 31 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: You showed her though, you know I did, and I'm here. 32 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: But Harrison, Uh, first identify yourself. You're a longtime NBA fan. 33 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: Is there a specific team that you've kept drying on 34 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: over the years. Yeah? So, I mean, I think anybody 35 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: who's even a little bit aware of my work, like 36 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: you probably know that, you know, it's definitely it's been 37 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: Lakers for me for the Yeah. I grew up you know, 38 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: in Orange County, about an hour south of Los Angeles, 39 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: fell in love with the Shack and Kobe Lakers. Uh. 40 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: You know, never thought that I would do this as 41 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: a career. I was actually in community college studying psychology. 42 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: I wanted to be a teacher. Ended up just like, 43 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: it's getting to the point where I was doing research 44 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: methods and stats and I was just like, this is 45 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: too much math for me. It's time to become an 46 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: NBA sportswriter who has to look up like NBA dot 47 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: com stuff all the time. That's about the level of 48 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: math that I can do. Uh, And I found a niche. 49 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: I just kept blogging, and then eventually, yeah, now I'm 50 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: here and I covered the Lakers since uh, like I 51 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: want to say, and then until uh, this spring, I 52 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: was promoted to eSPI Nation NBA editorial manager. So now 53 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: I see all of our dirty team sites and I 54 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: have to pretend that I like all of the teams equally. 55 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: That's not true, but I have to pretend it legally. Yeah, 56 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: you're a professional, you can. You know how to keep 57 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: a job. I think that's what's important for Yeah, exactly 58 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: what team is the hardest to pretend that they're equals 59 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: for you, It's it's who we think it is. Yeah, 60 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: it's definitely the Minnesota timber Wolves. It's yeah, it's the Celtics, 61 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: all right, all right, yeah, I mean that's that's kind 62 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: of true for me too. I'm not I'm not a 63 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: big Celtics fan. That's probably the team I have the 64 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: hardest time rooting for. I'm not gonna say a root 65 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: against them. I'm gonna say I have the hardest time 66 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: rooting for them, because I love the phrase it. I 67 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: root for all of them, you know, equally, except the Celtics. 68 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: It's really hard, but exactly. Yeah, You're you're sort of 69 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: like Lucile Bluth, where you're like, I love all of 70 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: my children equally, and you're like, I don't care for 71 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: job exactly like when you cut away to the end 72 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: the confessional, right, I don't care. Yeah, Otherwise, you know, publicly, 73 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: I love them, but I'll be honest with you, guys, 74 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: this isn't going out anywhere. No, no, no, you know, 75 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: if my mom's predictions are accurate, absolutely, Uh so, you know, 76 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: considering your proximity to the Lakers and and just checking 77 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: on things over there, uh Westbrook, Russell, Westbrook, Wait, I 78 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: do I do just want to say up top, we're 79 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: going to talk about Bill Russell's passing and career and 80 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: his amazing you know, I'm actually gonna bring my dad in. 81 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: I actually interviewed my dad for eight minutes. Uh he 82 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: he used to coach the Celtics. So we are because 83 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: I think this first segment is going to be very 84 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: uh Lakers centric, Like we're we're going to be working 85 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: inside the mind palace of a Lakers fan as we 86 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: talked through these trades. I think I think that you 87 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: need to orient yourself. So don't don't worry Celtics fans 88 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: or just NBA fans who aren't exclusively Lakers fans. Just 89 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: you should know it's a that it'll be over soon 90 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: and we'll we'll be able to move move on. But 91 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: we we do have to talk about these supposed Westbrook 92 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: trades that have suddenly become uh possibilities. I'm curious, Harrison, 93 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: what's your take? And according to s I, the Jazz, 94 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: Nicks and Pacers have expressed interest and potentially working at 95 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: a deal that involves taking Westbrook and his contract. Now 96 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: do you think at this stage teams are looking to 97 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: add Russ, you know, just as an expiring deal to 98 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: buy out or you think either of those teams actually 99 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: might be considering having him play out the contract. Yeah, no, 100 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: I I think pretty much at this point he's probably 101 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: seen as like a guy that you would buy out 102 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: because you have to pay him anyway, you get a 103 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: little bit of savings on the back end because he 104 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: works out his you know, as we see with all 105 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: these buyouts around the league, guys like they have their 106 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: agents figure out what they can get from other teams. 107 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: They work out a buy out for like around that 108 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: much less the current teams some money, you know, lets 109 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: them recoup their amount of money while picking their next destination. 110 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: That is my guess of what will happen with the 111 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: Westbrook saga. I don't think that, Like, like the Jazz, 112 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: you are clearly kind of getting set to go in 113 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: the tank for this upcoming draft. After trading Rudy Gobert, 114 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: They're going to trade Donovan Mitchell. Like, I don't think 115 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: that they want Russell Westbrook like helping them sneak in 116 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: a few extra wins while they try to develop these 117 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: young guys whatever, like trying to recoup his own value. Like, 118 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: I just don't see that as something that's happening. Just 119 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: as an example of one of those teams. So I 120 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: do think that it's more of like these teams are 121 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: going to trade for him. If they do, it's going 122 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: to be to get off of long term money and 123 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 1: a lot give the Lakers some players that maybe aren't 124 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: on their timeline but can help the Lakers win. Now 125 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more than Westbrook Camp. Right, So 126 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: who are the who are the Lakers like looking at 127 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: in such a scenario. Are they just getting out of 128 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: the deal, or like, do the Jazz have something to 129 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: offer the Lakers? I don't. I am admittedly allergic to 130 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: the trade machine, so I actually don't know how any 131 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: of this. Where are they in such a scenario or 132 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: the Lakers getting something back? Yeah, So my guests would 133 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,679 Speaker 1: be that if the Jazz were involved, it would probably 134 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: be as like a third team to take Westbrook and 135 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: like send something to you know, the team that the 136 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: Lakers want guys from, or something like that. The Pacers, 137 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: you know, also might be a third team or just 138 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: a straight up team. You know, if they're getting like 139 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: Miles Turner and Buddy Healed back, you know, something like that, 140 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: maybe the Jazz and facilitates a third team there, or 141 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: you know that maybe they could work with the Pacers 142 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: straight up, or work with Brooklyn straight up, or work 143 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: the Jazz in as a third team that you know, 144 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: the Nicks probably wouldn't be a third team for the Nets, 145 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: but they might be some sort of like facilitation team 146 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: with this cap space that they have if they can't 147 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: get work out of Donovan Mitchell trade. Like there's a 148 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: variety of ways that that could go. But yeah, I 149 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: think that, you know, with the Jazz specifically, they would 150 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: probably being looped in as a third team. And the Lakers, 151 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: you know, they as far as what they want, like, 152 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: I think they do want to get off of Russ 153 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: and you know, not have to pay that gigantic salary 154 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: and not just have him around. Like that's pretty clearly 155 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: from everything that we've seen this summer and everything that 156 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: we saw at his exit interview and you know, like 157 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: the entirety of last season, that is not a feasible 158 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: option for the Lakers to have him on their roster. 159 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: And I think that right now, the reason that you 160 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: haven't seen a trade yet is all of these other 161 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: teams know that and know that the Lakers need to 162 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: get off of his deal, and so are saying, give 163 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: us everything you have because you can't possibly take this 164 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: guy into camp, and the Lakers are like, well maybe 165 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: we can. You should stop us, uh and like sort 166 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: of projecting this, Oh no, we're just gonna run it back. 167 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: It's fine that Darvin Ham. Darvin Ham is gonna make 168 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook into like the three and D point guard 169 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: that we need to put around Lebron James and Anthony Davis. 170 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: And so I think the Lakers are holding out hoping 171 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: that they can get Kyrie after all. This Kadi stuff 172 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: kind of shakes out, because that's clearly the option that 173 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: Lebron wants. But you know, also looking at options, like 174 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: you know, you see the Hornets as a team with 175 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: like maybe Gordon Hayward if they're ready to get off 176 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: of him and his kind of long term money. You 177 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: look at Miles Turner and Buddy Healed, who are both like, 178 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: you know, probably not in the Pacers plans beyond this year, 179 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: and but hells like a little bit probably overpaid for 180 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: what he meant for what he provides, and not like 181 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: the greatest contract longer term than Westbrooks. So you're saving 182 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: the pace or some money there. These are kind of 183 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: the motivations that you know, you're looking for when you're 184 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: trying to find a Westbrook landing spot. Is like these 185 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: veterans that are making a decent amount of money for 186 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: teams that are probably trying to rebuild and might just 187 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: would maybe they'd rather have a Lakers first or two 188 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: Lakers first, or whatever it may be. So, as Lakers fans, 189 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: who what are the sugar plums dancinging you guys? Is 190 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: it is it Kyrie? Is it Donovan? What? What are you? 191 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: What are you hoping? Yeah? I mean, obviously I think 192 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell would be someone that Lakers fans would love, 193 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: but I don't see that happening. They don't have like 194 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: the assets to outbid the Knicks for him. So I 195 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: think it would be you know, it's definitely Kyrie. I 196 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: think is at the top of the majority wish list, 197 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: just because he you know, for his problems, you know, 198 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: like being uh not really being available via health or 199 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: via personal choice, uh, you know, and not wanting to 200 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: you know, shot up and not necessarily always wanting to 201 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: play basketball. You know, he is a much much better 202 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: on court fit with Lebron and Anthony Davis than Russell 203 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: Westbrook is. And so as kind of mercurial is he 204 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: might be. He is someone that I think is high 205 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: up on Lakers fans wish list, just because he provides 206 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: the type of skill set that you can you can 207 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: squint and look at that team and talk yourself into Okay, 208 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: they are a contender. They're probably not the favorite, but 209 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: they're contender now just because they have these three guys 210 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: that are so good and fit so well together and 211 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: hopefully they're all healthy at the right time in the 212 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: playoffs and they can kind of make it through a run. 213 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: It's the squinting that's the problem with us, though. We 214 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: squint a lot and get back to contention. As if 215 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: you squint a little bit, like none of these trades 216 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: get them back into like oh man, they're the big 217 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: faith immediately or something like that. Like it's like, okay, yeah, 218 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: I could you know, I could kind of see that 219 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: working out. They got some pieces that kind of maybe 220 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: fit and if everybody stays healthy, yeah, right for sure. 221 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: Um well, let's move on to some just some more 222 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: serious news. Bill Russell passed away over the weekend. The 223 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: eleven time champion Hall of Famer passed away at the 224 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: age of eight. I hadn't realized. So there's so many 225 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: great articles written kind of eulogizing him and talk about 226 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: his career. I hadn't realized the Celtics didn't even make 227 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: it to the finals until he was on the Celtics 228 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: and then they, you know, eleven time winners. But like 229 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: that's for some reason I had in my mind that 230 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: like the Celtics dominance was in some way not like 231 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: brought by him and it was not existing. Yeah, no, 232 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: he they hadn't even made the final. You thought it 233 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: was pre existing greatness prior, right, Yeah, it's so that 234 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: that was just one of the details that I feel 235 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: like I had wrong. Um. But yeah, so I'm on 236 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: vacation right now. You might hear a little bit more 237 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: laid back, distracted Jack coming to you. Um, with my 238 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 1: family and when Bill Russell passed. My dad, who used 239 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: to coach the Celtics, was like the day that I 240 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: resigned as Celtics coach, Bill Russell called me and I 241 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: talked to him for like two hours, which is uh, 242 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever talked to anyone for two 243 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: hours on the phone. Um. I was like, how are 244 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: you just telling me this right now? So I wanted 245 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: to talk to my dad about this. I actually hadn't 246 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: even thought to do that. Sup. Producer Jabari was like 247 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: maybe for your NBA podcast that you was like, would 248 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: know the Celtics, right, Okay, I would, saying. My big 249 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: takeaway is it's weird to interview your father. Uh. First 250 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: of all, because I had his Wikipedia page up in 251 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: front of me while I was interviewing him, Like I 252 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: wanted to get the date of the seasons he was 253 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: coaching the Celtics, right. I also couldn't remember if it 254 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: was Jim O'Brien or o'riyan. I didn't get that wrong, 255 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 1: but uh, you know, I I just checked a date, 256 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: but then I left it up during the interview, which 257 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: is right, Which is just would have been embarrassing if 258 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: it was anyone else. But um, I just asked him 259 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: a couple of anecdotes from his time just getting to 260 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: know Bill Russell. So we can play that clip. But 261 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: before we do anything, that jumped out to you guys 262 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: from the articles that were written about him. Yeah, the 263 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: the undefeated in elimination games. That was like astounding, you know, 264 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: like we talked about clutch guys and stuff like that, 265 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: and like who's the most clutch player in NBA history. 266 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: That might be like one of the most incredible clutch 267 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: stats I have ever heard. Now Again, like his team 268 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: and probably a lot of those situations was like the 269 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: better one and had went to a game seven, but 270 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: still like to never lose a game seven or like 271 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: any sort of elimination game in any tournament at any 272 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: level of basketball is like that's insane, Miles, any anything 273 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: you want to Bill Russell is like one of those guys. 274 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: Right when I was younger, I didn't know about him 275 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: until the fiftieth anniversary of the league. I mean I 276 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: didn't really bother to know about him until the fiftieth 277 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: anniversary of the league. And I remember that was like 278 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: a huge significant turning point from my like knowledge about 279 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: basketball like NBA history in general. Um. And when I looked, 280 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: I was almost like like angry that he was so 281 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: good and was even like a like a player coach 282 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: and like basically had done everything. I didn't realize he 283 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: was the first African American to even coach a professional team. Uh. 284 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: And he like he's done so much on and off 285 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: the court. Uh. And I just look at the way 286 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: his influence you know, still effects like players that we 287 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: see in the league today and how much the players 288 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: that we see who are like advocating for you know, 289 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: like a better just society or future, Like you're essentially 290 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: modeling Bill Russell, like whether you know it or not. Uh, 291 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: And I think you know it's it's we're very lucky 292 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: to have like these sort of gigantic figures like that 293 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: who were absolute legends in every single dimension of their being. 294 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's a it's a tremendous loss. And I 295 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: you know, like I said, you know, you gotta give 296 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: you gotta give respect where it's do And there's no 297 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: way you could look at Bill Russell and say anything 298 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: but this man is excellence personified. Yeah, and that he 299 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: was doing all that stuff at a time when it 300 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: was much less popular than it is today. Like some 301 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: of those stories about what he and his family, I 302 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: mean he signed with the Celtics two years after Brown v. 303 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: Board of Education was decided. Yeah, Like that's his proximity 304 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: to all of the you know, societal changes that we're 305 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: going on at that time. So something that our culture 306 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: is kind of memory hold is the Boston bussing riots, 307 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: but that was like the seventies. That's something everybody should 308 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: go look up read about because it's yeah that that 309 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: was that was much later than I think our culture 310 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: assumed these sorts of things were happening. But yeah, all 311 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: of this stuff is more recent than you re a 312 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: lot like I think that then we think about frequently 313 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: in terms of like I was reading, uh one of 314 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: the remembrances from Tom Zeller, who publishes his own newsletter, 315 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: good Morning, It's Basketball. You know, he had one where 316 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: he was talking about, you know, back during his playing career, 317 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: like the civil rights leader I'm forgetting the name, asked 318 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: Bill Russell to come down to the South and basically 319 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: put on an integrated basketball camp. And he had that 320 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: he you know, he had no like obligation to come 321 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: down and do this, and was still like went down. 322 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: Had to have security because the KKK was assembling across 323 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: the street from this basketball camp to try and intimidate 324 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: people out of going to it, and he still went. 325 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: And there was like someone every night when he slept 326 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: in this undersized hotel bed, there was somebody sitting next 327 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: to him with a rifle as the last line of 328 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: defense to defend him. And like this is how much 329 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: of the sky was willing to put it on the 330 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: line to try and like advocate for his principles and 331 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: just like an incredible, incredible human being. Yeah, alright, let's 332 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: throw to a break. We'll come back. We'll go right 333 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: into me talking my dad and then we'll come out 334 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: of that a few last words about Bill Russell and 335 00:16:44,480 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: then we'll we'll be right back. Alright, Dad, so going, Uh, 336 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: it's gone great. Thanks for having me. I've never recorded 337 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: you on Mike before. I've never interviewed my dad, so 338 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: this is exciting. So you're the head coach of the 339 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: Boston Celtics from two thousand one to two thousand four. 340 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: It took them to the Eastern Conference Finals. Um, I 341 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: think you know this, but just setting the scene for people. 342 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: You're also head coach at your hometown six Ers oh 343 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: four oh five season with Alan Iverson near the height 344 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: of his powers, took them to the playoffs coach the 345 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: Pacers from oh seven ton. But I wanted to talk 346 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: to you about something that I heard you say the 347 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: other day that I I had not known this, but 348 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: when you resigned from the Celtics in the O four season, 349 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 1: you said that Bill Russell called you that day and 350 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: you guys talked for a couple hours. Yeah, I had 351 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: a great conversation with Russ the former Celtics. Uh, you 352 00:17:56,040 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: know Bill Russell, Kuzy Hinson, all these guys were very 353 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 1: very generous with her time. And I had gotten to 354 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: know Bill Russell over the years that I was there 355 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: with the Celtics, and he was always very generous with 356 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: his time and his advice and uh, funny, funny guy. 357 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: And we had a great conversation. And some of the 358 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: things I remember about that conversation where that he would 359 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: adjust whatever he had to do to um give the 360 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: Celtics what they needed on any given year. So instance, 361 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: when they had Casey Jones at the point guard spot. 362 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: He was a great defensive player, uh, not so much 363 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: a great offensive player. So Russell decided he just needed 364 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: to score more points that particular year to give them 365 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: the best chance to win the championship. And when Kuzy 366 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: was the point guard. A funny story that Russell had 367 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: told me, uh was he grabbed Couzy early on and 368 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: he said, you know, Bob your great ball hander, but 369 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: you just are horrible defense. Horrible defensively, he said, so 370 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: you can't keep your your guy in front of you. 371 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: So what I want you to do is make sure 372 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: he beat you, which will do often uh to the 373 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: offensive player's left hand, and as soon as he beat you, 374 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: run to half court on the left side and I'll 375 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: throw you the basketball. So which will we give you 376 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: an idea of how uh what it's prowess was defensively? Yeah, 377 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: he was just you were saying the other day that 378 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: he would just look at his roster and decide how 379 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: many points he had to average that that season, which 380 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: I think you know, it's almost like the least amount 381 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: of scoring he could do to give his team the 382 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: best chance at winning. And so, you know, the the 383 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: one constant was how dominant he was defensively, and that's 384 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: that's never nobody on your team or anywhere is every 385 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: going to be grudual for being a great defensive player. 386 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: But you know, he was a player coach, so getting 387 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: everybody involved was was important to him. It sounds like, 388 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: you know, people talk about Russ being uh, probably the 389 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: greatest champion in the history of basketball. He may have 390 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: been the best leader. You alluded to a couple of 391 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: things about him deciding what was needed and be able 392 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: to give it to him, But some of his teammates 393 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: Cuisy and Hinson would tell me little anecdotes about about 394 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: Russ and Uh, if they were going through a bad 395 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: period of time in a game where they had lost 396 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: one game, he would go into a huddle at the 397 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: time out and look at the guys and say, Okay, 398 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: I clearly am screwing this up. Uh, you tell me 399 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: what I need to do better. And it was a 400 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: kind of a way of letting everybody else know that 401 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: here was a guy that clearly wasn't screwing things up, 402 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: that they were screwing it up, but he was taking 403 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: the hit and um, uh he would do whatever it 404 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: took to win basketball games, Like the buck stops with him. 405 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: So even if he wasn't the one screwing it up, 406 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: like he's like, you know, it's on me, It's on 407 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: my shoulders. So you grew up a sixer Stan as 408 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: they repeatedly got trounced by the Celtics, right, I not 409 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: necessarily trounced, but they would beat us every year when 410 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: it mattered. Right, Um, what does like what what was 411 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: it like for you at this like kind of pivotal 412 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: point in your career too? I mean, did did you 413 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: ever like was it just ever surreal for you, because 414 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: I mean Russell, I I didn't realized that Celtics never 415 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: made the finals before Russell got there, so like he 416 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: really was the Celtics dynasty. And now here you are 417 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: years later, you're coaching the Celtics and you know, just 418 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: end your your tenure there and here's the guy who 419 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: was such a huge part of that dynasty calling you. 420 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: Was that that surreal? Was that kind of a weird 421 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 1: momentary you just kind of in the moment and don't 422 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: notice that sort of thing. Well, I had gotten to 423 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: know him pretty well, you know a couple of things 424 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: as far as going from Philadelphia, growing up, loving Philadelphia, 425 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: and having my heart broken seemingly every year. Uh. When 426 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: they had the press conference who announced Rick Patino as 427 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: a head coach, I was going to be as associate coach. 428 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: I happened to sit be sitting next to the red 429 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: hour back, who was you know, we're indoors and he's 430 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: smoking to speak stokey, as was his habit, and Uh, 431 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: I said to him, I said, Red, you know you 432 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: broke my heart and you you taught me how to 433 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: cry about basqueball And he turned and he blew a 434 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: big puff of smoke into my face. It goes, Is 435 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: that right? So? Uh, you know other things about Russ 436 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: that I I found to be humorous. You know, there 437 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: people had always talked about he would never go out 438 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: and play a basketball game, uh, without first throwing up. 439 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,959 Speaker 1: And you know, one time, our back is you know, 440 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: relaying a story to me saying that he's ready to, 441 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: you know, send a team out. He's he hasn't even 442 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 1: talked to the team, and everyone's waiting around and Red's 443 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,479 Speaker 1: not opening his mouth, and he says to Russ, Uh, 444 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: we're waiting on you. Russ, you haven't you haven't puked yet, 445 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: so you better get there. And then Russ a couple 446 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: of years later, when you know, I was feeling the 447 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: pressure of of coaching the Celtics and before the game, 448 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: he said to me, you know what, you take this 449 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: way too seriously. And I said, here's I'm talking to 450 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: the guy that's telling me that, who had to throw 451 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 1: up before every game. So it's kind of ironic that 452 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: he would say that, did you ever try throwing up 453 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: before the game? Just get get it out? You know, 454 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: I was just out on the with with our brother 455 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: in law. I think he could have could have used 456 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 1: some of that, and just that's what the captain was saying. 457 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: Get it out, get it over with um. Any other 458 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: Russell stories, Bill Russell stories. You know Bill Russell. You know, 459 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: everybody that had the opportunity to observe him on the 460 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 1: basketball court knew how good he was defensively. But what 461 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: few people know is that he would rarely practice. And 462 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: he would rarely practice because, as Red hour Back would say, 463 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: nobody could get a shot off on the other team 464 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: when he was on the court. He was. He was 465 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: that dominant and uh dominant on the court and just 466 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: a iconic man off the court. And when he was 467 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: playing in San Francisco, he told me a story I 468 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: think the day that I resigned, that his college coach 469 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: told him that he never wanted him to leave his 470 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: feet uh to block a shot for whatever reason it 471 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: was back in the old days. He wanted him to 472 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: stay down and not get pump fake. And I'm sure 473 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 1: Rush didn't listen to him that much at that one time, 474 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: But we lost a great man, really one of the 475 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 1: great That's funny. That's like one of the one of 476 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: the things they tell you in in elementary school, never 477 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: leave your sheet for for a pump fake and he's 478 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: still bringing it off years later. All right, well, dad, 479 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: Jim O'Brien, coach O'Brien, thanks so much for for talking 480 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: to me. This was good. We'll have to do it 481 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: again sometimes go forward to a son. Alright, So that 482 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: was me talking to my dad, uh coach Jim O'Brien about, 483 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: you know, his conversations with Bill Russell. Um, i'd say 484 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: the you know, I had heard the thing that he 485 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: threw up before every game. That's like one of the 486 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: first things you hear in basketball, I think, especially if 487 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: you're like a nervous person, they're like, no, I don't 488 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 1: worry about they'll Russell used to throw up before every game. 489 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: Totally normal. Yeah, I'd say the the anecdote that jumped 490 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: out to me was that he it sounds like he 491 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: scored as little as he possibly could while his teams 492 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: would still win, which is just like I don't know 493 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: that that is that makes sense of like his scoring 494 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: kind of fluctuating, going up and down, and also just 495 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: given what we know about like what actually makes a 496 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: team win is like getting people involved offensively and people 497 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: being willing to sacrifice to get other guys involved, and 498 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: I feel like you almost couldn't have a career like 499 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: that today because there's so much pressure from the media too, 500 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: you know, every like box scores being scrutinized, and it 501 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: takes a lot of i don't know, just selflessness and 502 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: just single mindedly only caring about, you know, the final 503 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: result of winning. I think I think Lebron kind of 504 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: did that, uh in a in a lot of ways 505 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: for a large part of his career um and he 506 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: got a lot of pushback from people being like you 507 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: you take the final shot if you're the best player 508 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 1: on the team, and it's like that doesn't really makes sense. 509 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: And I was gonna to even further contextualize it, like 510 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: they didn't track blocks until either, like very late in 511 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: his career. Afterwards, there were even less stats to kind 512 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: of accumulate like while doing that approach like now nowadays, 513 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: like someone could do that and theoretically be like, Okay, 514 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: well I blocked like three shots a game, Like my 515 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: field goal percentage all out at the rim is really loud, 516 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: like you can show their value. Like they didn't have 517 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: any of that stuff back right, it was all anecdotal, 518 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: and so he just did it like and you had 519 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: to almost like look at his dominance by sheer word 520 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: of mouth and I guess like rebounding statistics and stuff 521 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: like that. Like you know that there were the crazy 522 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: stories about like the level of depth he saw the 523 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: game in and that like he would you know, he 524 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: would try and help his teams build up a lead 525 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: against Wilt's teams and then just kind of let him 526 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: score just enough so that he didn't start to like 527 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: pick up on Bill's defensive tricks and he could i 528 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: with them when he really needed to. It's just like, 529 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: you know, it's the type of stuff that we on 530 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: the outside never think about it on that level of 531 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: like the stuff that these guys do in the mental 532 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: games that they play. Uh, you know, just again like incredible, 533 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: like that one of the highest basketball like he was 534 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: we've probably ever seen, I think just in general, to 535 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: have that kind of intelligence to think of like, well, 536 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: if I reveal this too many times to my opponent, 537 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: then it becomes mood in a way. I feel like, 538 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 1: what is he? Like? The is Nathan Fielder the new 539 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 1: Bill Russell? Like, yeah, don't a lot of flow chart 540 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: on his laptop. He's like stuff, right, He's like Okay, 541 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: we win the tip off, will get a couple of 542 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: righty hook shots like I'm gonna be able to block 543 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: it the next time. It's gonna be overconfident in it. Yeah, exactly, exactly. 544 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's pivot in the paint to NBA 545 00:28:55,200 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: Dunk Week. Dan, Dan, it's done week? They did? They 546 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: really pick? Is it shark? Is it also Shark week? 547 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: They did? They did last week? Okay, so I think 548 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: it's two weeks right around now, all right, I Shark 549 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: Week is year round and in this household, but no, 550 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: I think it was last week. I think it was 551 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: last week. But when look, it's it's all Shark week 552 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: to us. But more importantly, it is NBA Dunk Week, 553 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: and we thought to celebrate we should probably go over 554 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: some of the top dunks of the year, and in 555 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: no particular order, just you know, we'll we'll play quick 556 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: clips so you can hear the audio. Jack or Harrison, 557 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: would either of you want to do with the color 558 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: color play by play to describe the would love to Okay, 559 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: let's say I'm not qualified for this, so yeah, you 560 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: you go for it. So first we will talk about 561 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: this is I mean like this isn't no protect I 562 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: guess is it a particular Well, they are in the 563 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: order that I would have put them in, except maybe 564 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: I mean we well here, then, for the purpose of this, 565 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: let's just say in no particular order, in no particular order, 566 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: let's look at some of the contenders. Was put into 567 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: this my float shirt and no pre planning done whatsoever 568 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: or anything, no bits worked out, because that's not what 569 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: kind of podcast this is. But let's talk about the 570 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: first No. The first one is Anthony Edwards over Gabe Vincent. 571 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: This is from I believe Novembers earlier on in the season. 572 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: This only gets honorable mentioned because I think they called 573 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: a foul which got it at a certain point. You 574 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: might just need to oh oh no, oh yeah. This 575 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: is the one that Nate Duncan was friending afterwards because 576 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, you know, I heard of the 577 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: dun put off or something like that, Like, yeah, I 578 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: mean I could have done it. I see, I see 579 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: what Nate's talking about. I could have done that. Um. 580 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: But that's the thing. If you're a ref and you 581 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: call a fowl on that, you should be suspended right 582 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: for denying us. Just that just that kind of dunk. 583 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,479 Speaker 1: What gave Vincent does here is the equivalent of jumping 584 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: on a hand grenade. Because Anthony Awards is a clearly 585 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: into the basket. Vincent rotates all the way from the 586 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: other side. He has the shooter in the corner in 587 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: the opposite corner, gets in front of it, does take 588 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: a charge, but I think gets there a little late 589 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: because his feet aren't set before they're moving. His feet 590 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: are moving as Anthony Edwards is already gliding through the air. 591 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: But um, it's it's powerful. It is a work of beauty. 592 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: Jumps from way too far away, gets to the rim 593 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: and dunks it, which I guess can't fully be said 594 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: about our next one, the m beat over Jared Allen, 595 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: because I think he just like kind of throws it 596 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: as hard as he can into the basket. I don't 597 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: know this fingers actually ever touched the net. But um, 598 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: I remember where I was when when this happened. Okay, 599 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: set this up for us Jack late Thursday night, te 600 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: you know this might have been when the Sixers fans 601 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: were waiting for Harden to like. Harden was still hurt 602 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: but had been traded already, and we you know, our 603 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: hopes were the highest, uh, they'd be all season and 604 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: bead ms is a free throw. We get the offensive 605 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: board and then he takes two steps and his shoulders 606 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: are above the rim as he just throws the ball 607 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: downwards over Jared Allen. Um, he doesn't wear like sometimes 608 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: the player who you're who is being dunked over looks 609 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: like they stepped on a hand garnade. This is the 610 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: railroad where in bead fly backwards when he dunks it 611 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: with such force that it's his body can't believe what 612 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: just happened. I mean, also, like Jared Allen's a sturdy man, 613 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: you know, like all due respect to gave Vincent, but 614 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: he's you know, a little stockier, a little larger. And 615 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: then I liked these dunks like this because we so 616 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: rarely see a guy throw it through the rim like that, 617 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: with that level of kind of violence and flair. And yeah, 618 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: I mean those are I have a soft spot for those. 619 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: I do too, Uh, And that has nothing to do 620 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: with the fact that I I'm a six or fan. No, No, objectively, 621 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: it's great, all right, we can move past this one. 622 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,959 Speaker 1: This is Jaylen Brown dunking over something somebody. Uh, this 623 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: is Dallas. I guess Dallas Boston kind of a nice 624 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: crossover between the legs splits the splits the double teams 625 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: Jaylen Brown and um, he dunks it over Clevea. Yeah. 626 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: It's you know, say, not that impressive. You know, I'm 627 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: not that impressive. It's you know, it is it. It's 628 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: a guess, one of those ones where it's, you know, 629 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: one v one, who's gonna who's gonna come out on top? 630 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: But because he split the it is one v one 631 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: because he split the a double team with a between 632 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: legs dribble. That's about Jalen Brown is like people will 633 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: talk about him not having a good handle, and then 634 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: he will have a dribble move that is like what 635 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: did he just black out there? If he's not a 636 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: good dribbler, what what exactly is this? That's just him 637 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: attacking the rim and I think, yeah, just one of 638 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: he's he's doing what he needs to do. I mean, 639 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: it's not like the fanciest move, but yeah, it's efficient 640 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: in that he just you know, rendered those two defenders 641 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: of great distance throws it down. Okay, what about another one. 642 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people need to keep their 643 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: eye on this. Russell Westbrook guy Okay, and I know 644 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: we're talking about some teams that are interested. May I 645 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: offer you this dunk over Rudy Gobert. Send this to 646 00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: the Pacers repeatedly. Look at this, you know, their bitches 647 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: the top and just all by himself. Violence. But so 648 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 1: I was gonna say earlier that the mbat over Jared 649 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: Allen was the best defender that is getting uh you know, 650 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: going up to meet the dunker at the rim. But 651 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: I mean Bibert is all time great defender and Russ, uh, 652 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: this is just violence. Yeah, what is he a? He's 653 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: like a four time defensive Player of the Year three 654 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: times something like that. You know, I think again, NBA 655 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: teams might be undervaluing this guy. Russ just took him 656 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: one on one and you're getting the steal of a 657 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: deal here. Yeah, I mean they should be giving the 658 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: Lakers first round picks for this that. Don't look up 659 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 1: any other clips from last year, don't look up anything else. 660 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: Just this clip. He does dunk from inside the circle 661 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: at the free throw line like it is. Oh, it's impressive, 662 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: it's shocking. Still an incredible athlete, He's not He's not 663 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 1: like what he was, you know in his prime. He's 664 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,760 Speaker 1: still you know, there were moments like this last season 665 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: where you can still see like he's still an amazing athlete. 666 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 1: It's just not the greatest, you know, sometimes he was 667 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: missing these dunfs. But yeah, it's a little difficult. Okay, 668 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: let's move on to another one. I'd say these are 669 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: the two. These are the two fightings I I could 670 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: I could put these in either order at one or two. Okay, 671 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: So this is Andrew Wiggins dunking over Game three. We 672 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: talked about this one. It's another one where someone decided 673 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: to go straight up and may have regretted that decision 674 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: from the then snaps it outside comes Wiggins. Wiggins. Now 675 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: they did call a charge in the moment. I think 676 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: just based on uh, it's not an of the fact 677 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: that it seems like a I mean he does it 678 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 1: is the face like as he's going by, but it's 679 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: kind of like you don't want I don't know that 680 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,439 Speaker 1: you did it on purpose, also slowed down. I don't 681 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: think I think it is Lucas selling it. Um. Oh yeah, 682 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 1: well we this. I remember the still image of this 683 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 1: was like Luca actually like pulling a face and like cowering. 684 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 1: It felt very like uh, you know, trying to have 685 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 1: a big reaction to get the the official detention sort 686 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: of thing. But a fantastic moment. I think that's that's 687 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,240 Speaker 1: considering the stakes too of like, you know, let's playoff 688 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: game Yeah, and it is tells the story of the season, 689 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 1: which is that Andrew Wiggins comes on and suddenly is 690 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: playing like the best possible version of Andrew Wiggins. Luca, 691 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: it's all the people that like doubted Andrew Wiggins. He's like, 692 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: I am doubting that from this far and still dunk 693 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: on me. Andrew Whins was like, no, I can when 694 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 1: I try sometimes. So I think other podcasts might have 695 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 1: that as the dunk of the year because the story 696 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 1: of the year for them is who wins the title. 697 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: The story of the year for me is, uh, this 698 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: fellow jaw moran um and his dunk in Game five 699 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 1: versus the Timberwolves round one. So not as momentous as 700 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: the Wiggins dunk in terms of you know, playoff, you know, 701 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: import but they're down thirteen at this point after he 702 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: dunks this, he this is the game where he like 703 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: just couldn't be stopped, right, he just Yeah, And it 704 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: is also just one of the coolest things I've ever 705 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: seen a human being do with a human body. Yeah, 706 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: this is this one's this one's clean up three leading 707 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 1: in goes through four people and then and if you 708 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: haven't seen this, it's like it's like an anime dunk 709 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: or something more like I could see, Yeah, exactly, Like 710 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: if you did this in an anime, like everything would 711 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 1: black out. It would just be jaw and Beasley, and 712 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 1: then you would see like streaks of light coming off 713 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: his feet. He like elevates ten thousand feet into the 714 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: air and then comes crashing back down, but basically like 715 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: touches the ground again with the ball. He cocks his 716 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: arm so far back and then you know, finishes it. Yeah, fantastic. 717 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 1: I was gonna half jokingly like stand for the Westbrook 718 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 1: one as the number one, you know, like he he 719 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: deserves it. But yeah, you know, after watching the job 720 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: one again, it's it's got to be. I think you 721 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: guys are being a little too narrow minded. I think 722 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 1: this Russell Westbrook guy again, if you are the Jazz, 723 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:33,320 Speaker 1: the Nicks, the Pacers, check this video. The Nets, the Nets, 724 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that's my it's got the mad boost. He's 725 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 1: dunk of the season. Okay, it's gotta be worth something. Okay, well, 726 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 1: thank you so much for playing along. You tell us 727 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 1: if we missed a dunk. But I honestly I think 728 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: that John morand dunk because do you think that John 729 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 1: morand dunk is the moment when Tim Connolly was like, 730 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 1: I gotta give up nineties seven first round picks for 731 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert. He would have stopped that, you know, like, 732 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: I can't watch this anymore. I need a large human 733 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 1: near the rim. I mean that is gonna be harder 734 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: to do on the Timberwolves this year unless you watch 735 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: the Russ clip like three clip. But exactly right, I 736 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,479 Speaker 1: am starting to get excited about the Timberwolves this season. 737 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,399 Speaker 1: I am too. It's gonna be interesting. At the very post, 738 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 1: I'm curious to see how it works. I don't know 739 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 1: that I'm like all the way on board what they're 740 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 1: gonna be amazing yet, but I want to watch it. 741 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: I like their teams doing something different. The three teams 742 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 1: I'm most excited to watch this next season or the Grizzlies, 743 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,839 Speaker 1: the Timberwolves, and the Pelicans. And that wasn't the case 744 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: five years ago. So that's that's kind of we're we're 745 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: in a new league. I'm alright, let's take a quick 746 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: break and we'll be right back to finish this thing 747 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 1: out with the rapid fire questioning round. And we're back 748 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,800 Speaker 1: the rapid fire questioning round. The fastest way that we 749 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 1: could think of to say that rapid fire question round 750 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:07,919 Speaker 1: of questioning with our guest, Harrison Fagan. If you guys 751 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: just did that and like the name was longer than 752 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,800 Speaker 1: the actual segment, we would never do some round questioning. 753 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,839 Speaker 1: Should the Lakers fade? Westbrook, I'm like no, And then 754 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: you're like, okay, that was all right. That was our 755 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: rapid fire round of questions. WHOA all right? Man? But 756 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 1: get ready because again, Harrison, like we say we'd like 757 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: to ask our guests just respond reflectively. Now we change 758 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,840 Speaker 1: things up for this time. It's gonna be either or 759 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:36,240 Speaker 1: would you rather type situation, So just respond as quickly 760 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: as you can to the questions that are put in 761 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: front of you. That way, we can keep this rapid 762 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 1: fire round of questions to a very short, concise and 763 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: economical content package for the listener. Okay, start the clock, 764 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 1: which at the beginning of the rapid fire round of 765 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:59,839 Speaker 1: question you want to go first. I'll go first. Let's 766 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: do paper scissors. Okay, to one shot that we both? Okay, 767 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 1: one to shoot? What do you all right? Here? One rock? 768 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 1: Papers shoot? Shoot? Oh he scissored me timbers again? Okay, 769 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 1: rock shoot shoot? You got me? Got it? And I 770 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:34,360 Speaker 1: didn't have the fortitude. Restart the clocks ready, Harrison? A 771 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 1: note on that? Was the clock already going? Or do 772 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,359 Speaker 1: we need to restart the clock? Brian? Do I need 773 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 1: to reclaim my time? I'm gonna reclaim my time. Good. 774 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:43,919 Speaker 1: I think we're good. Oh he said, we're good. Okay, 775 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 1: fantastic jar superducer Jabari. Okay, here we go, start the clock, 776 00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,360 Speaker 1: Start the clock, Harrison. Would you rather have they to 777 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 1: dunk all over someone in anybody like Kemp, you know, 778 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: over jaw style or sorry I screwed that up Kemp, 779 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 1: I thought it was Kemp. Or let's well then, okay, 780 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 1: we can still keep this in start the block, Harrison. 781 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 1: Would you rather have the ability to dunk all over 782 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: someone camp over list in style or have unlimited range? Definitely? 783 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 1: I feel like the Dunks. Yeah. I don't know if 784 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 1: it's just because we just watched a bunch of dunks, 785 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 1: but I think I think the dunk that I just 786 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,359 Speaker 1: feel like the dunk thing is cooler. Yeah. I don't 787 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 1: really care about being like the best player ever. I 788 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 1: just want to have like great highlights. Right, someone who 789 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,839 Speaker 1: the NBA has endorsed us having mad Boosti's I can 790 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 1: say it's a little overrated. Man, That's that range is 791 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 1: pretty cool. I've always loved being able to just you know, 792 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 1: reach up and easily getting the bottom of the net 793 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 1: whenever I wanted to. But uh, that that range would 794 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 1: really come into handy unlimited range. You don't want to 795 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 1: hand out umbrellas at the gym when I was like, 796 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I was never able to shoot, but I 797 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,879 Speaker 1: could touch rim and so you know, it just would 798 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 1: be nice to be able to dunk on people. Okay, Harrison, 799 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,760 Speaker 1: you don't need to buy here. This is our podcast. 800 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 1: And also this is a rapid fire question. Thank you. 801 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 1: Speaking of dunks in honor of it officially being the 802 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 1: league's official dunk week, would you rather have Janna's drop 803 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,959 Speaker 1: the hammer on you in the post or have Yeah 804 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 1: Morants put you on a poster as he takes off 805 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 1: from just inside the free throw line. Job. This is 806 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 1: kind of like an erotic question. I like it. Yeah, 807 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 1: I like that too, Like which version? How dirty you 808 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: want to get? So? Yeah, I just feel like if 809 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 1: Janice does it at my size, I'm going through the 810 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 1: stanchion so and probably bring myself John. It'll be embarrassing, 811 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,439 Speaker 1: but I probably won't die. Would you if you knew 812 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 1: in the moment, would you make a face because you 813 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 1: knew you're going to be on a poster to like 814 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: also kind of get some shine. We're like, hey, you know, job, 815 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,800 Speaker 1: I've got that dunk, but Harrison's face It's kind of 816 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 1: kind of makes the poster become a meme. Yeah, I 817 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 1: think I probably. I mean, I am not that expressive 818 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 1: of a person, and they were wife, but I feel 819 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 1: like if that was happening, I probably wouldn't I would 820 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 1: be Okay, has anyone ever that that might be like 821 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 1: new ground to break while they're being dunked over, like 822 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:30,319 Speaker 1: made eye contact with the camera and made like yea, 823 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 1: or like a Scorsese film where it's like you're probably 824 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 1: wondering how I got here. I've got a note for 825 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 1: the pearls of the world. Okay. They're like man like 826 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 1: you know, boy again? Not again? Okay? Sorry? Jack? That 827 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,240 Speaker 1: was on you that time. We've got to keep it rapid, Uh, Harrison. 828 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,879 Speaker 1: Would you rather be able to attend the next three 829 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,439 Speaker 1: finals series or be able to go back in time 830 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 1: to witness any single finals matchup? Uh? Probably the next three, 831 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 1: just because I've already seen how the other ones go. 832 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:13,880 Speaker 1: Oh wow, Okay, you're not impressed by time travel. Huh Okay, 833 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,400 Speaker 1: I mean I'm got you know, all I get to 834 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 1: do is go watch the finals, you know, like, not 835 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 1: like I can go back and well, I guess that's 836 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 1: why I got to be clever about this question. It's 837 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 1: not just about going to the finals. I'm gonna go 838 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 1: back and gamble on Lakers, you know, Celtics two games seven, 839 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 1: and then you win enough money to get tickets and yeah, 840 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 1: all right, Harrison has one, uh the rapid fire. But 841 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 1: we'll just do the rest of these to run it out. 842 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, you got you got the right answer there. 843 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 1: Would you rather have your team win through the next 844 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,959 Speaker 1: five titles and then have to into our ten years 845 00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 1: of futility where you don't even make the playoffs, or 846 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 1: would you rather have your team win one title and 847 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,239 Speaker 1: have a really competitive team that falls just short for 848 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 1: the next decade deep runs, no cigar. You know, my 849 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,840 Speaker 1: specific era of Lakers basketball has definitely prepared me for 850 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 1: the first one. So yeah, I'm saying the first one 851 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,800 Speaker 1: all the way. Yeah, I'm like, I'm ready for a 852 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 1: team that's really good for like even just like one 853 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 1: year and then like sucks for ten just hypothetically, you know. 854 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean the Randy Fundiers. I was living 855 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 1: off of old memories for a while. So it happens. 856 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,239 Speaker 1: That's how we stay, That's how we stay a lot. Okay, 857 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,360 Speaker 1: moving on final question, Harrison Clippers when the title or 858 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 1: the Celtics win the title? Clipper? Okay, thank you, that's great. 859 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 1: That a codiction or is that just like what you 860 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,920 Speaker 1: would rather? You'd rather? I thought, uh, I mean I 861 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:49,919 Speaker 1: guess both, but yeah, you'll take a Yeah. You didn't 862 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 1: like how rapid that answer was, Hunt Jack. No, no, no, 863 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 1: I just I actually didn't understand the question. Um, so 864 00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:00,360 Speaker 1: I assumed which would I prefer? Yeah, which would you prefer? Yeah? Clippers? 865 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 1: Yeah without good Man. Yeah, I actually gotta keep that. Yeah, 866 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,800 Speaker 1: let him get one. And I I like that answer 867 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:12,359 Speaker 1: because the Lakers fans relationship to the Clippers has never 868 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,439 Speaker 1: sat right with me. I think I think Lakers fans 869 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,320 Speaker 1: need to be nicer to the Clippers. I think I 870 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,640 Speaker 1: agree with that too. But no, the look I retweeted 871 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 1: that them winning Mascot of a Year today. You know, 872 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 1: that's what sometimes your little brother, you know, gets like 873 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,759 Speaker 1: a perfect attendance award or something you've got to recognize. 874 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 1: We love that. We love that well, Harrison, thanks so 875 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 1: much for joining us on Miles and Jack got mad boosties. 876 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,759 Speaker 1: Where can people you know check out your work and 877 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 1: uh and and support you and follow you and all that. Uh, 878 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 1: you know, you can check out the Silver Screen and 879 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,839 Speaker 1: World podcast, which I'm still doing. I guess I don't 880 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,399 Speaker 1: know how much longer I'm still doing that because I'm 881 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 1: not writing anymore. But uh yeah, and then you know, 882 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,319 Speaker 1: just follow me on Twitter at hm Fagan and then 883 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,120 Speaker 1: just check out all the you know, if you have 884 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,759 Speaker 1: a favorite team, we have an sp Nation blog for you, 885 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 1: so go check those. Uh and yeah, that's that's all 886 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,440 Speaker 1: I got to plug. Amazing man, what was great having you? 887 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 1: Um I didn't love the brag that you could touch 888 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 1: rim in high school. I mean, I'm six ft four, 889 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 1: It's not like it's not that impressive. You know, like 890 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 1: alright then, like I have Matt boosts on this show, 891 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 1: but I can only I could only touch that, So 892 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 1: it's like sorry for you, that's okay, and that's on 893 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,399 Speaker 1: us and we should if we should prepare the guests 894 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 1: and not. Yeah, that was like a rough left one 895 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,440 Speaker 1: bet level poster that I like, inadvertently, Yeah, did on you? 896 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 1: I apologize, not sorry, it's I'm just gonna hear for 897 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:43,880 Speaker 1: the next week. But again, what did I say about 898 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 1: breaking people and who could jump higher than me? TDZ 899 00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 1: writer that you have for your mine like like take 900 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,520 Speaker 1: out all the green Skittles and my fans like just 901 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 1: all this stuff. Jack, just like no one that can 902 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,400 Speaker 1: jump higher than me. I'm sorry, he said, he grab 903 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,040 Speaker 1: rim Okay, you know what, so you're thinking Joe, that 904 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:08,040 Speaker 1: was wow. Thanks a lot for the humiliation to producer Jabari. 905 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,879 Speaker 1: Real tight guy, we got real tough guys. Real tough 906 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,759 Speaker 1: guy was going on here. All right, that's my bad. 907 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,879 Speaker 1: I'm sorry self facing, but arrows out it turns out 908 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 1: on this Podah. Yeah, that is a huge grind on 909 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,320 Speaker 1: this But you're the best man. Thanks so much. You 910 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 1: feel better, No, not at all? Um, try all right, 911 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,400 Speaker 1: thanks all righty'all. We'll see you next time, because there 912 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,320 Speaker 1: will be next time. Bye bye,