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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club blowing out of the backfield,

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Speaker 1: the flooding down the sidelines. He's hanging with the boys,

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Speaker 1: presented by Wing Stuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now

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Speaker 1: your hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly and Shannon Gross. Hey,

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Speaker 1: we are we got home. Man stop do that? Do

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Speaker 1: that again? Man play? Come on, man before we're gonna

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Speaker 1: do this super stop coming and the Dallas Cowboys Football

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Speaker 1: Club blowing out of the backfield, the flumbing down the side.

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Speaker 1: He's hanging with the boys, presented by Wingstar Man, Your

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Speaker 1: host Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse, and Shannon gros Who who

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Speaker 1: gotta have that? Loud? Who gotta have that? Who is that?

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Speaker 1: Third person? Doug, you're a McConney, a ward winner, right

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Speaker 1: what a mcconey and McConney, Mark Coney, he's a Marcy

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Speaker 1: war Award winner. You should know that we when we

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Speaker 1: have a new star stud on our show, that that

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Speaker 1: should pop up loud. It was pretty let me I'll

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Speaker 1: do it loud, okay, Jesse, Olli on this show. Jesse,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, hanging with the boys. Have a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of meetings that you are hanging dog brother.

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Speaker 1: I always say I'm the hardest man in show business.

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Speaker 1: So I'm hanging. Yeah, Yeah, be gonna hanging with the boys.

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Speaker 1: Tommy John is back as a sponsor of the show

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Speaker 1: this year, so we'll be reading some live reads. We

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Speaker 1: got wings. Nate just jumped at the window of this tour,

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Speaker 1: passed by so so, Jesse or something. You've been on

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Speaker 1: the scene for a while. Yes, I was privileged enough

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Speaker 1: to be at the forty nine ers game where you

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Speaker 1: almost made it almost to the end zone to score

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Speaker 1: touchdown that I believe Dan Bailey kicked the game winning

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Speaker 1: field goal. You guys are welcome for Dan Bailey as well.

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Speaker 1: Without me, Dan Billy never comes about. Remember he missed

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Speaker 1: field goal early. He was on his way out the door.

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Speaker 1: He was on his way out the door. He missed

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Speaker 1: the field goal early in that game. I gave him

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Speaker 1: a chance for redemption. Then he went on to hit

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Speaker 1: twenty nine or thirty two straight or something like that,

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Speaker 1: and now you know, he got paid. He got some muy.

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Speaker 1: He's struggling the right now. Yeah, but it's okay. He

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Speaker 1: got paid. He's good. Yeah, Dan is worried about going

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Speaker 1: to flying plant. Dan flies plants. Did you know that? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Dude. This dude for a whole week,

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Speaker 1: dog you out. I didn't dog hibaut. I was gonna

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Speaker 1: give you craping off the show. Dog. I didn't like. Oh,

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Speaker 1: you set up Dan Bailey. He set up Dan Bailey.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. But that's what I'm saying. NIC's like, you

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Speaker 1: went from dog and out for a whole week to

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Speaker 1: hej you set up stopping. He quit trying to start

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Speaker 1: a fight the first two minutes he's on. I'll tell you,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I also started that. Okay, you

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Speaker 1: guys see now the fashion for Yeah, yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: actually when you bought me. You see the fashion forward

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Speaker 1: Shannon Gross. Now, he used to wear jackets with no

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Speaker 1: pocket square. Yeah, and I said, you know what, it's

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Speaker 1: I said, you know what, I'm gonna take care of him.

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Speaker 1: I went and got him some silk pocket squares and

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Speaker 1: it so all the pocket squares you see, now, just

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Speaker 1: I've been saying, Hey, Shannon, but that's nice. Oh I

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Speaker 1: I forget what you got. I like your little pocket thing. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: here we So you you have been indirectly with this show? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I've been probably what five years? Six years? Four four years?

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Speaker 1: How long have you been on with the with the fans?

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Speaker 1: This is seven seven, you've been on that long? How

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Speaker 1: long have y'all been doing our postgame show? Seven seven? So? Yeah, Lee,

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Speaker 1: Just like I kick started your pocket squares, I can

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Speaker 1: I worked at a cell phone company. I work gonna

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Speaker 1: at North Carolina where you were working from eleven and night, Yes,

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Speaker 1: from eight Ball Production and they're they're trying to start

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Speaker 1: this show. They didn't have much information about it. They

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Speaker 1: Jason would not give me a playbook. So after I

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Speaker 1: But Jason is like, until he signs a contract, he

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Speaker 1: maybe it'll help me. And they're not thinking about you know,

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Speaker 1: people bawled out. Saturday game was Saturday, right, Saturday. I'm

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Speaker 1: so messed up, man, I'm so screwed up. Some people

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Speaker 1: balled out. Who who I know? Your pet cats hider? Right,

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Speaker 1: that's still your guy? Yeah? Yeah, yeah? Who who else

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Speaker 1: were you impressed by? He didn't play Saturday? But you know,

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Speaker 1: I just for the first time, I think Taco is

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Speaker 1: really starting to see it. I mean, the preseason don't

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Speaker 1: mean nothing. Right this year, for the first time, I

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Speaker 1: can actually say, wow, the preseason as big as me

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Speaker 1: and you play. But for the first time, and it's

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Speaker 1: not that he played great, but he's been consistent. I've

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Speaker 1: never seen Taco this consistent. Now, can't he take it

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Speaker 1: to another level when the season start? We'll see. But

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Speaker 1: I'm Karen Hatters my man, And to me, he's outplayed

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Speaker 1: every defensive linement out there. That's just you said that.

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Speaker 1: From when I saw him at OTAs to Manicamp to

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Speaker 1: the first practice, he's outplayed every defensive linement. Him and

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Speaker 1: Darren's arm strong. Who do you like this weekend? Donovan Wilson? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I think he made the team this weekend. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I definitely did think he made the team. Um, because

514
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 1: here's what you're here's what you're getting. And people sometimes

515
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Speaker 1: may laugh at little you know, your team name the

516
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Speaker 1: Hot Boys now the defensive backs of the Purge squad.

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Speaker 1: But what happens is you begin to fall into in

518
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Speaker 1: line with these names and it becomes a personality, right,

519
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: and you see these defensive backs being way more aggressive

520
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: than I've seen them be in the last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: I know a lot has to do with christ rah

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Speaker 1: Chard and him implementing that be aggressive, take the shots,

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Speaker 1: take the chances. You know, and one thing goes a

524
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Speaker 1: long way when a coach tells you be aggressive, take

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Speaker 1: your chances. If you screw up, the first one's on me.

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Speaker 1: It's on me. And I've heard him saying it's on me,

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Speaker 1: But I need you to go out there and just ball,

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Speaker 1: just play, don't worry about making mistakes, don't worry about

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Speaker 1: If there's an opportunity for you to go and get

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Speaker 1: the football, go get it. The first one's on me

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Speaker 1: and we'll correct it from there. But I don't want

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Speaker 1: you sitting back there hesitant, thinking, Oh, I want to

533
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Speaker 1: go get it, but I don't want to mess up.

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Speaker 1: NA go one hundred miles an hour. And you see

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Speaker 1: that from this defensive group, and that's going to help

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Speaker 1: a tackle Charlton. That's gonna help a carry hider. That's

537
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Speaker 1: gonna help a Malie Collins. That's gonna help when when

538
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Speaker 1: Tank comes back, because they're on a string. If I

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Speaker 1: can get my defensive backs to cover and make that

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Speaker 1: QB hold it a half a second, a second longer,

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Speaker 1: these guys get to the football, and if my past

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Speaker 1: rush is getting into the football, that qube has to

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Speaker 1: get the ball out of his hands. A lot quicker

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Speaker 1: routes don't have a chance to develop. My guys are

545
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Speaker 1: now jumping routes, and now we're creating those turnovers. And

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Speaker 1: so those two guys, I'm on the back end, you're

547
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Speaker 1: on the front end. But they go hand in hand

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Speaker 1: one another. And when those two guys, those two sets

549
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Speaker 1: of groups are are balling, you talk about a real

550
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Speaker 1: live defense right there. You look at every every turnover,

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Speaker 1: that's many camp. That's a pass, a block, you know,

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Speaker 1: a deflection. Boy, you look at see where number fifty

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Speaker 1: one at that is? That is big. Now the League

554
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Speaker 1: has been doing his thing all camp. You mentioned LEI,

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Speaker 1: he's been doing this thing camp and then he set

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Speaker 1: the tone with Lamar Miller. I promise you if Lamar

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Speaker 1: Miller wouldn't have got hurt, they would have played a

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Speaker 1: different And I'm talking about the Texas. But you saw

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Speaker 1: the air, you know, you saw the air literally, and

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Speaker 1: then when they came out the second half, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what the coach of the half time, Hey, we

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Speaker 1: need to just get through this game and regroup. But

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Speaker 1: it just got worse. And that that's a player of

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Speaker 1: mentality where you saw your All Pro Pro Bowl running

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Speaker 1: back just cart it off. That started about the league

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Speaker 1: college and then the secondary. Like you said, they just

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Speaker 1: took over many Could nothing pop up, could nothing come free?

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Speaker 1: Because these guys were gobbling it up. Yeah, and you

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Speaker 1: haven't seen this defensive unit, the whole unit together on

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Speaker 1: the field. That's a great thing. It could be scary,

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Speaker 1: they could be they could be really good this year. Man.

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Speaker 1: I've told people this is what I feel about prese

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Speaker 1: especially I've been watching. I watched more preseason games this

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Speaker 1: year than I ever have, and I've seen teams literally

575
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Speaker 1: would not expose their starters unless they coming off and injury,

576
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Speaker 1: need to get a couple of reps. And this is

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Speaker 1: good for new offensive coordinators. This is good for one

578
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Speaker 1: and two year players that they get all of these reps.

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Speaker 1: How are you looking at this preseason? Well, and maybe

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Speaker 1: this is my conspiracy theory, but I just I believe

581
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Speaker 1: that the owners they want to get rid of these

582
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Speaker 1: preseason games to get to eighteen games so bad that

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Speaker 1: the message is coming down to the head coach is saying, hey, sick,

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Speaker 1: we were doing all that We're gonna get. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: get just enough for them to work them buying a ticket,

586
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Speaker 1: but keep them complaining about it so that when we

587
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Speaker 1: come back up for this new CBA, we could try

588
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Speaker 1: to get rid of these two preseason games and add

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Speaker 1: it to the back end. And I say that because

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Speaker 1: look what happened in Winnipeg. Now you meant to tell

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Speaker 1: me the NFL is a nine billion dollar company and

592
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Speaker 1: you sent no one ahead to see if the field

593
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Speaker 1: was right right? Nine billion dollars the NFL is worth

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Speaker 1: And you mean to tell me the first time you

595
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Speaker 1: guys realize there was as a manhole where the gold

596
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Speaker 1: post used to be on this field was the day

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Speaker 1: of the game. Nine billion dollars. Yeah, so what happened,

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Speaker 1: you know, was a New Mexico year or so the

599
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Speaker 1: same thing would have happened in it came in a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago. Come on, dog, come on, it's

601
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Speaker 1: nine billion dollars that there should be a committee if

602
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Speaker 1: you're gonna go out of the normal realm of where

603
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Speaker 1: we're practicing and playing at for a game that people

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Speaker 1: have to pay for to attend. Come on, dog, you

605
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Speaker 1: mean tell me the NFL will have a committee of

606
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Speaker 1: people the ass man, come on and grass man, they

607
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Speaker 1: go ahead, yeah, and nobody saw this. You're sending those

608
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Speaker 1: people out Monday and say, hey, make sure everything is

609
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Speaker 1: coldsthetics so when we get there. So they get there,

610
00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: they go, oh, oh no a Rodgers. Come on, no, no, no, no, no,

611
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Speaker 1: we're not playing. I'm just saying that preseason is getting

612
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Speaker 1: progressively worse and worse and worse. And it's funny the

613
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Speaker 1: timing of it because four years ago people, you were

614
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Speaker 1: playing your stars right. The last two years has gotten

615
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Speaker 1: progressively worse and worse. Yes, heading into the new CBA.

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Speaker 1: How many gumming do you think they were in the

617
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Speaker 1: jfk assassination? I don't know. For you just a conspiracy theory, No,

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Speaker 1: I just I just look at stuff like that. I

619
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Speaker 1: just know how much as a player I know, I know,

620
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Speaker 1: I know when you know the business behind the scenes,

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Speaker 1: I know how many people are on board to make

622
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Speaker 1: sure that the show goes off without a hitch. We

623
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Speaker 1: don't have these problems do on the regular season. And

624
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Speaker 1: let me tell you something. Don't you know them people

625
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Speaker 1: from Canada as I already called, because they want their

626
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Speaker 1: fans there. Yeah, and they want them to see regular

627
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Speaker 1: NFL football. And you don't think, what do we need

628
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Speaker 1: to do to make sure this happened? I mean that

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630
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Speaker 1: devious route because the players ain't hearing the players say,

631
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: if you want eighteen games, we want a much not

632
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: a little bit, but a much bigger piece of the pie.

633
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: And so because you you, they keep talking about the injury.

634
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: You know what you get to do with the money,

635
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: they they'll forget about that word injury. I promise we

636
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: all talk players. We talk about it more after we

637
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: get out of the right right, right right everything were

638
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: yea real quick, We're gonna get out of here a

639
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:37,479
Speaker 1: little early today. Okay, real quick. Andrew Luck just called

640
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: it quits. I think it was you. I may not

641
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: stop go because there's there's been a couple of you know,

642
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: there's been some some people that are forth, there's been

643
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 1: some people that are against it. There's all kinds of

644
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: different opinions. I just want to get y'all opinion. Your quarterback,

645
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: your quarterback he defended. He want an opinion, comes back home. Okay.

646
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: I I said this, and you've heard me say this

647
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: on this show two years ago. I've never respected Jim

648
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: er Say and how he treated Andrew Love. You depended

649
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: on this kid at six foot four, two hundred and

650
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: some pounds to take beatings, literally beatings, and he still

651
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: would take his team in the fourth quarter. And he

652
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: has a winning record for a guy that missed the

653
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: whole year. I think he has a winning record. So

654
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: I ain't with mister Ersay, but this book makes me

655
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: bring it back home. Give Zeke his money because a

656
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: dude telling you how he's beat up, he's tired, he's

657
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 1: told it teams and this is our Zeke. Yeah, that's

658
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: why I said, give Zeke his money. Give him one

659
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: penny more than girly. I ain't saying, get this dude

660
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 1: the fifteen meal bro, but give him one penny more

661
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: than girly. That way we can get it. Because at

662
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 1: twenty seven, they're gonna whether we want to believe it

663
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 1: or not. So how does that tie into Luck calling equipped?

664
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: But because he's saying he's beat up, Zeke look Luck

665
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 1: and they are saying at the age of twenty seven,

666
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: the league is saying, at the age of twenty seven

667
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: or running back is through? So when do Zeke get

668
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: paid after he hit that cliff? And I'm talking about

669
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: injury because for a running back, unlike a superstar quarterback,

670
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: he would get every opportunity to recover. There was gonna

671
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: give Luck every opportunity to recover. Where where we get

672
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: Zeke that same thing? And people say, what, it's no

673
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: tie in? In my mind, it is a tie in

674
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: because Zeke is one injury away. One sprained ankle. That's

675
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: all it takes for Zeke. One sprained ankle. They tell him,

676
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck, Man, we'll work through this sprain ankle because

677
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: you're own can take us places we've never been before.

678
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 1: Zeke legs make and take us places we've never been before.

679
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: He's one injury away. And in my mind, in my

680
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: twisted mind right now, it's like, Wow, Luck get to

681
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: retire and keep twenty four meal. Zeke can't even get

682
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: twenty for meal guaranteed. That's just my twisted mind. But

683
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: that's the nature of the business, right We elevate these

684
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: quarterbacks on a different pedestal and everything else comes under that. Yes,

685
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: and you're you're almost expendable, right You're expendable. You are

686
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: an expendable asset to NFL football teams. I commend Andrew

687
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: Luck from being to step up and say like he

688
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: like when you hear him talk and as a person

689
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: who like I walked away from the game because I

690
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: just was I was mentally, I just didn't have it

691
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: anymore mentally, you know, because people don't understand what it

692
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: takes on a like if you went through what we

693
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: went through on a Sunday and went to the doctor.

694
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: The doctor would tell you don't do anything there for

695
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: two weeks right back as on Monday, right like whip

696
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: blash and shoulders and knees like I remember my knee.

697
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: I had a tormentiscus and the tearing my acl I

698
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: mean my knee would be like this. After a game,

699
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: you get on a play ride home like this, I

700
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: get it drained. I have it one day off, I'm

701
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: back out there, I'm getting acupuncture. I'm doing all this

702
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: stuff to go back out there for after Sunday for

703
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 1: way to do this again until I go and have

704
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 1: surgery in the off season. Get paid. I gotta get paid,

705
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: And especially when you're talking about a guy like me

706
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: who I can't afford the missional practices. I can't afford

707
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: the mission no games because I'm expendable. And the same

708
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: thing will have happened to Zeke. It happened to DeMarco

709
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: Murray right he left the league in Russian was ap

710
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: Offensive Player of the Year and all these other great stuff,

711
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they said, you're twenty seven,

712
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: you're twenty eight. We're not paying you. We gave you

713
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: four hundred touches last year, Bye bye, and you have

714
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 1: to go in just but mature. And that's why you know,

715
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 1: I'd always tell people man like you gotta separate business

716
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: from personal because they will come important time. And we've

717
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: seen it. You've been a part of it. I've been

718
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: a part of We've had teammates that have been a

719
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: part of it. The turk is coming to get you.

720
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: It is not everybody gets to do what you know,

721
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: what what what Troy Aikman did, or to to to

722
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: walk away on your own terms. The league kicks you out,

723
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: and we far too many times we see guys who

724
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: are suffering from their effects of playing football after they're done.

725
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: The money doesn't matter when you can't walk. The money

726
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,720
Speaker 1: doesn't matter when you can't think straight. The money doesn't

727
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 1: matter when you got to take a handful of pills

728
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: in the morning just to get out of bed and

729
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: nobody cares about you after that. It's all well, man, Nate,

730
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: I remember those days, well, Jess, I remember the San

731
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 1: Francisco Man. You was a part of the three man.

732
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: You kept my fantasy football league afloat. But yeah, and

733
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: that's human, that's a human you talking about. Brother, and

734
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: that's the thing, like, you know, they boot him going

735
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: off the field. How dare you that man gave it

736
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: up for y'all every single week he got don't even

737
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: know that because he was at the game and I

738
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: heard through my ear. Uh Bill Jones said, Hey, by

739
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: the way, Andrew Luck is retired. And I'm thinking I'm

740
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: hearing a sports center gager. Yeah. I'm like what, And

741
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: so I stopped. Miss nat you just heard that, and

742
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: she looked on the phone. Yeah, he's retired. I went

743
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,479
Speaker 1: to another for hey, man, is Andrew Luck retired? They're

744
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: like yeah. I'm like, yeah, it's it's It's one of

745
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: those deals, man, where you can leave with your mental

746
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: and physical state still intact. That's that quality of life.

747
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: Just got married, got kids. Man, It's hard. It's hard

748
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: man to get up every single day. And Andrew Luck,

749
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: think about this. The franchise is literally placed upon your shoulders.

750
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 1: We don't go anywhere without you. And all you think

751
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: about all day long is I gotta get back because

752
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 1: they need me. I gotta get back because they need me.

753
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: Give me the pills, give me the medicine, give me

754
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: the treatment, And all of a sudden, you just I can't.

755
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: I can't carry this weight anymore, trying to rehab, trying

756
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,959
Speaker 1: to get better. It's don't. I'll say this and before

757
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: we go, I don't think he's done. I think he

758
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: needed mental physical break where he just because you're just

759
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: trying so hard to get back, get back and back

760
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: and back and back, as you get clouded and frustrate

761
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: that you can't get back and you're not when you

762
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: want to be. And you know how it is. You

763
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: know when you're one hundred percent healthy, how you can play,

764
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: and when you're laboring. It ain't the same person, it

765
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: ain't the same player. I'll never you know, before when

766
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: I was just a fan, I probably had a different outlook.

767
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: But now knowing the business side, I'll never get mad

768
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: at a player for wanting money because your shelf life

769
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: is so limited. You gotta get what you can get

770
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: when you can get it. And I'll never get mad

771
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: at a guy from walking away on his own terms,

772
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: because I mean, you're a commodity in this league when

773
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: the when the league and the teams don't need you anymore. Bye,

774
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: we got what we needed and you might be out

775
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 1: on the street. Jerry found another one. Yeah, there's there's

776
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: the line starts to the left and goes all the

777
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: way down to down. You know that's why he pays

778
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: one of the big bucks. Woman hit the big bucks.

779
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: There's a guy on the couch right now that we

780
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: can plug in. You know, I just that that's when

781
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 1: I got home. And like I said, I don't think

782
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: in the straight line when it comes to football all

783
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 1: the time, because we know it ain't a straight line.

784
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: It ain't simple. Look at look at the twisting turns

785
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: this dude made to get back to get back in

786
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: the league. Bru, that's slavery. What Mike Irber done, that's breast,

787
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: straight up slavery. And all that did was Guaranteemy an

788
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: opportunity to go to San Antonio. That's all. Did you

789
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: did you get paid for practices? Like when you're on

790
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: the practice squad? How how does that work? Because I

791
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: know you don't get paid really and unless you know,

792
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 1: you get paid a contract trying to make the team

793
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: your practice practice squad. And it's it's a good living.

794
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: You talk about hundred thousand dollars, it's an a bad

795
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: living to be on a practice squad. About being on

796
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: a practica, I'm my own on now dollars plus and

797
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: you want play away from being And then what happens

798
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: is if you if you get it real good, if

799
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: you get a real good on a practice squad, and

800
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 1: they got they got a plan for you in the future.

801
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: They'll say, because you're talking him, like listen, someone another

802
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: team wants put me on an active roster. They'll go,

803
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: stay here and we'll pay you active roster money. Staying

804
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: on our practice squad. We got you gotta plan for

805
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: you next year. Next year you're gonna be in the fold.

806
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, I got a couple of olds. Towards the end,

807
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: they'd be like, oh someone, I'm like yeah, they're like,

808
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: oh no, stay here. We want to give you a

809
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: couple more checks, but they're gonna be a little bit

810
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: more elevated. Man. Yeah. Yeah, that's why, you know, that's

811
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: why the Andrew Luck thing is besides me loving him

812
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: as a player and as a person, and Hayton Texas

813
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: for not getting him and letting him come up out

814
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: of this state and go to Stanford. That was dumb.

815
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:04,479
Speaker 1: But anyway, anyway, that that les know for the people

816
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: that don't that heyz cain't worth that maybe he's not

817
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: and see. I understand they gotta be financially responsible, but

818
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: I love it, love it, Stephen, love you. But I'm

819
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 1: a player, and I know what he went through. I

820
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: know what mister luck has went through. I know the

821
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: pains that I have. And I'm fortunate because most of

822
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: my all of my boys got new either New Hill,

823
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: new knees or both. And I'm sending right here the

824
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: fattist due whatever. Still about original equipment, man, I'm hanging.

825
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 1: You know you got what is it? O? What is it?

826
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: Original equipment? That's right? Yeah, no replacement, No replacement, man,

827
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: And I ain't even went to see them people that

828
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: get your shots either to get it up, I mean,

829
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: to get it going. Whoa, whoa, that's another show. That's

830
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: another show. Yeah, well man, this was good. Jesse. Yeah,

831
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: I'm glad you old boy brother brother. I know you're

832
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: you're here tomorrow, You're out Wednesday, Thursday. We got a game.

833
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: I don't know the show, but I gotta get over.

834
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,919
Speaker 1: I promised you on sending tomorrow work out with his kids. Tomorrow. Yeah, okay,

835
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: So to be me and you the whole show. You

836
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: come in when you can get here. Yeah, Friday, I

837
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: think we have shows Friday next week. We'll have a

838
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: regular schedule once we figure out two o'clock. All right,

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