WEBVTT - "Chucky" 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:08.920 Hold on, hold on, I rather kick you with Rory 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:11.119 sud be the hardest to keep in the boat. So 0:00:11.119 --> 0:00:12.960 why would you wait every day? Still? It's too because 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:14.640 I know for faces they're gonna say, we're so I 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:16.640 bade my call on the station. Ain't know, not anxious. 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:18.520 I'm waiting on them to go live if it ain't 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:20.200 them in all right in the sidace, I promise that 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:22.240 no one can do what they do. It's like hundreds 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:25.119 of station. That's Aaron, But I'd rather listen to are Sue? 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:31.840 Are we in? Sup sup a soup a sup wor 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:40.960 so a sup sup boran sup so Ocome to the 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:47.160 Bawler Alert Show starting for Ry Simmons and Sue Solo. Yes, sir, 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:50.559 welcome to the Fall Alert Show podcast. I go by 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:53.280 the day with pit cifics and it's your best friend. 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:56.360 Sue Solo, Welcome to the Ball Show Podcast. You ready 0:00:56.360 --> 0:01:01.560 to get into it? That's good in case you missed it. Alright, 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:05.240 chall So if you believe that racism is taught, then 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:08.240 I would agree. A nine year old Caucasian shall had 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:11.479 a few words for her school board after seeing Black 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:16.319 Lives Matters posters on campus. Listen to this little child. 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:19.440 I looked up onto the wall and saw a BLM 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:23.399 poster and an Amanda Gorman poster. And least you don't 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:25.360 know who that chick is. She's some girl who did 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:29.160 a poem that Biden so called inauguration. I was so mad. 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:31.560 Does not matter the color you make the posters and 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:35.280 the font you use, we all understand the meaning. It 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:39.080 is a political message about getting rid of police officers rioting, 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:42.840 burning buildings down while King Governor Walts just sits on 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:49.320 his throne and watches Yo, the micro water. Listen, the 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:54.040 micro aggression in her voice is absolutely little girl, you 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:57.200 know who that chick is? Okay, Now, the fact that 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:00.880 she is so mad and so sure she even knows 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:04.960 what the Black Lives Matter movement is actually about really 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:06.960 tells us a lot about her upbringing. And I'm just 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:10.040 gonna say this because I really don't care. It's sad, Okay, 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:12.800 it is sad. Your mama and your daddy is sad, 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:16.720 all right. Now, moving on. I interviewed Rapper to See 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:18.720 not too long ago, and you know what, he was 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:21.040 as cool as hell. He seemed to have his head 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:23.520 on straight. And like me, he's a bit of a 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:27.000 conspiracy theorist. But I did not see this one coming. Y'all. 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:30.760 Listen to what he said about pop Eyes. Why after 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:34.080 the Popeye's chicken said, which came out A pandemic was 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:36.160 a thing. That will tell me did the world not 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:40.520 go in a hole? What's Popeye? Alright? Boom, We're gonna 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:44.040 kill Papa's all right. It's a lot of black folks 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:48.519 that I actually never had it, and that's probably why 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:52.320 I never got the covids. I mean, Tucy might be right. 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:58.040 I had a young gripper from here. Okay, now, so listen. 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:00.600 At this point, it really is just whatever you believe 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:02.799 about the global pandemic, because everybody just saying whatever you 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:05.480 want to say. All right, that is what's new with Sue. 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:08.640 In case you missed it, We'll be right back. Stay 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:13.080 tuned with more of the Baller Alert Show. Back to 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:18.000 the Baller Alert Show start. Ferrori Simmons and Sue Solo 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:22.440 Faller Nation joined us in welcoming and American producer who 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:25.440 was a known hit man. Amongst the hit man that 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:29.200 helped make music Moogo Shaan Kom's bad Boy Records of Vibe, 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:32.519 A man who's behind some of our favorite classics behind 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:35.960 the notorious B I. G. Faith Evans, V. Mary J. 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:39.360 Blige and more, Ball the Nations. Snap your fingers or 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:44.080 clap your hands for Chucky Man. Let's dope to be here. 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:48.600 Appreciate it. How you feeling today's sir? And I'm good 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:52.040 man anticipating this when you know what I'm saying. Ball 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:54.840 Alert is like one of my favorite spots, you know 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:57.080 what I mean. So, Chucky, you've been in the game 0:03:57.360 --> 0:04:02.080 since the nineties, the early nineties at that you have 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:06.200 a crazy resume. What are some of the classics that 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:08.160 people may know you for and don't know that you 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:12.440 had anything to do with them. I mean one of 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:14.560 the biggest ones would be Big Cooper, you know what 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:20.760 I mean? Um, and then My Life you know that one. Um, 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:23.080 But then a lot of people don't realize I did one, 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:26.720 Mike so Nas you know, Wow, that's one of the 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:30.000 biggest songs ever. Yeah, but I mean, you know it's 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:33.279 you know, I've always been a little key with it, 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:35.880 you know what I mean. Um, So it's you know, 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:39.479 it's partly my fault that people don't know these things. 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:41.400 But I mean they know the records, and you know 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:44.520 these records have been a part of of hip hop 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:48.000 and pop culture. So you know, I just feel good 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:51.159 about that that that my contributions have helped, you know, 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:55.159 push this thing along, you know. All right, So so 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:58.279 paint the picture for me. It's the nineties. You know, 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:01.800 you're talented, you know your how the help to become 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:05.359 a hitman at that um well, you know, it was 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:08.400 a mutual friend that that kind of pushed the situation 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:11.920 with me and Puff, And you know, at that time, 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:15.640 I was just submitting songs and one of those songs 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:19.000 was the one song that Mary liked, which was to 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:23.040 be with You record. So you know I heard at 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.000 that time she was just picking a bunch of songs 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:28.360 and nothing really attracted her, but that one song came 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:30.279 in and was like, yo, I want to do this. 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:33.159 So that's when Puff really said, you know what, let 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:35.720 me get ready. We we decided on a management agreement, 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:39.320 so you know, he was my manager. But then you 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:40.960 know a lot of the work that I was getting 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:44.480 was worked to help him solidify himself as a producer. 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:46.279 So we kind of made that pack that you know, 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:50.960 we're helping each other, you know, and you know, that's 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:53.839 pretty much how the story started. I was really the 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:56.560 first one. Uh you know son he was working with 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:59.440 a couple of producers at that time. You know, EASYMBI 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:03.200 was in a situation. Um Rashard tumming on Dice was 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:06.000 in the situation. But you know, I was the first 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:09.680 one that was kind of signed under management. So you know, 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:12.200 when I got there, it was just like okay, I 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:15.680 got this DC thing, this hospitality thing, and I played 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:18.520 like eight different instruments, so I started going around the 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:23.000 different sessions and just contribute, you know. But that was 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.560 also getting me on projects. So when you hear the 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:30.119 guitars on Ready to Die, that's me with easy Mobile, 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:32.760 you know what I'm saying. So, like, you know, it 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:35.680 started from there pretty much. Wait wait wait, wait, let 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:39.279 me interrupt. Let me interjet because this sounds really good 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:42.039 and it sounds like you have been making a lot 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:45.839 of money. So I want to ask you what was 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:49.159 the biggest first check that you got and how much 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:50.760 was it and what the hell did you do with it? 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:56.000 Go with that, man, I mean, it was when I 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:58.200 signed my publishing agreement, you know what I mean, when 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:03.000 I signed with Sony and um, you know at that time, 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:06.200 you know, step over the mouth, don't skip over the 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:09.640 mouth truck. It was it was, it was, you know, 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:14.640 my first million dollars came from Badward. You know that 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:18.960 that was you know, our agreement, like Puff felt that 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:23.160 strongly about the union that you know at that time 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:25.360 for me to be a new producer coming in the game, 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:28.400 and you know, that was my contract. And then from 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:30.960 there it was the publishing Tony Publishing, which I just 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:35.360 re read did my agreement with Big John over there? 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:37.400 So shout out the Big John and all of the 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:41.280 people over that, Sony, you know what I'm saying. So yeah, 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:44.480 I gotta kicked in, you know what I mean. And 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:48.520 the crazy thing is a million dollars then was was 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:51.720 a little more than a million dollars. Now, yeah, real 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:54.240 real talk, real talk. But you know it's like I said, 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:56.600 a lot of it had to do with that that 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:59.440 that trust, you know what I mean, because you don't 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:02.600 just signing people and giving them that type of a 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:05.440 situation if you don't think that it's going to work 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:08.200 out or think that you know, you're capable of making 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:11.040 it happen with them. So I still got to get 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:13.120 a puffle out of credit for just seeing, you know, 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:16.760 seeing seeing something to me that I probably didn't even 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:19.920 seeing myself at that time because you know, I'm coming 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:21.960 from d C. You know, he was in the game. 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:24.840 I'm trying to get there, you know, and that was 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.440 just the startup. So that was a dope to me, 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:30.640 like one of the dopest stars, you know, to get 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:34.240 it kicked in. Yeah. I can't imagine it could have gotten, honestly, 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:37.280 any bigger than that at that time, especially being in 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:40.880 black culture because he was he was the man, he 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:46.280 was real talk. I mean, you know, I was just 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:49.920 I was lucky, you know to have had uh, somebody 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:51.800 because did anything about it. At that time, it was 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:54.319 no Internet. It was really no way to get to 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:57.720 people other than for you to actually meet them and 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:02.280 then you have to actually you know, meet them in 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:04.600 a way where they want to even deal with you. 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:07.319 You know what I'm saying. It was a weird time, 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:09.920 but I was lucky enough to have somebody there to 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:13.440 kind of like, you know, at least have a bridge 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:17.240 into it. Um and it got that song placed and 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:19.960 you know the rest of the rest kicked it in. 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:22.440 That was it. That was history, you know, Chuck, Chuck, 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:24.400 I got a question. I know you have a Biggie 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.600 story that you can tell us, because you know, I 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:29.560 grew up listening to bigg He never met him. I 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:32.840 was a kid when he passed away. Um. You know, 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:34.680 so I kind of was. I kind of came in. 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:37.120 I mean, he had a short career anyway. But at 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:39.320 the same time, you know, I kind of didn't realize 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:41.920 or understand why he died, you know, because I was 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:44.520 a kid. Um. I know you have a story to 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:47.600 tell us about you in the studio with Biggie or 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:50.240 come on, man, give us some Yeah. Yeah, I mean, 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:54.280 let's let's let's let's talk about I almost didn't make. Um, 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:57.960 I almost didn't make Life after Death. Um. At that 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:00.839 particular time for me, I was work and on my artists. 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:03.040 I had an artist signed the Effort. It's a guy 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:06.800 named Frankie. And I was just trying to devote my time, 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:09.000 you know, watching Pump and seeing how much Heed to 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.480 vote at his time in the building this company. I 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:14.000 wanted to put that same energy into mine, you know. 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:17.480 And at that time I was just focused on that, 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:19.839 and I had went into the studio. I think I 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:22.880 went to Daddy's house to grab something and Big was 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:25.400 in the other room. He sent somebody in there to 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:27.520 talk to me, like you're big one. The haul is 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:30.000 shoot and say okay, So I go in there. This 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:32.520 is right after the accident, sees he got the cane 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:35.480 and all that. So I walked in. He's like, yo, 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:37.760 what's up man, You ain't doing nothing on my album, 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:40.520 like he was closing out the Life After Death album. 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:43.160 So I was like, no, I even like that. He said, 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:46.040 come on you. I was like, first off, you got 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:48.120 one of the biggest records on my last album, so 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:50.320 it's gonna look real funny that you don't have nothing 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:53.880 on this. So I'm about to take offense if you don't. 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:56.760 You know, if you don't jump on this record, we 0:10:56.840 --> 0:11:00.720 might have me issues. So I you know, he's that 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:02.720 real that he pulled me up, you know what I mean. 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:05.480 So I said, cool, let me let me finally sit 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:08.920 with Puff and kind of here what what was happening? 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:10.520 And he played me a bunch of records and he 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:14.280 played Storytell and if you go online, it's an original 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:17.679 version of it um and they couldn't clear that sample. 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:20.520 So I was like, okay, so that's my end, I 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:23.280 was saying. So I was I'll replay this sample. And 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:25.880 get us through the door. So I basically it was 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:28.240 it was a night of the Grammys. I'm in the 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:30.120 studio with a big boats I on, you know what 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:33.559 I mean, like just finishing it up because they're closing 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.080 it out. If it doesn't happen tonight, it's not gonna happen. 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:39.319 So I finished that up. And you know the sad 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:42.040 part is I never really got to talk to Big 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:44.720 to see how he felt about it, you know, but 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:48.120 I know it made the record, so um you know, 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:51.040 all of that stuff kicked in like like right after 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:55.600 you know, um man that story to tell kid flow down. 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:04.679 Remember that's one, Remember that one? So chucky. At the time, 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:07.320 did you know that you were working with not only 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:13.000 classic music, but classic artists? I mean, yeah, It's like 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:17.040 it's funny with me because I get personal with people, 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:20.720 you know. When you know Big and and we used 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:23.400 to hang out all the time, you know what I mean. 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:26.439 I remember him having issues with Safe. You know what 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:29.080 I'm saying, I'm coming to be like dope, I want 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:31.280 to fix my marriage Joe, And I'm like, come on, man, 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:34.640 you out here and how are home coming? Going nuts? 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:36.920 And you're tik about fixing your marriage. Come on church, 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:39.600 you know what I'm saying. So going nuts? Like how 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:42.960 I mean, he was big. You've seen what it was 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:45.240 he you know he was a gym or not. I 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:50.280 mean big was I mean he got married because he 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:54.840 loved her, but he was big because he was big. 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:57.000 So it was just you know, he was that player. 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:58.520 He had that in them, you know what I mean. 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:01.960 And and and that's was the thing that broke them up. 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:04.199 You know what I'm saying, that that's the part that 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:07.160 that killed it. But you know, I'm I'm hearing all 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:09.080 of these stories and I'm catching the vibe. So, like 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:12.360 I said, I was around, I was around people in 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:16.280 different lights. You know. USh it was only what seventeen 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:19.839 and something crazy, you know, But he was in the house, 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:21.679 you know what I mean. Mary, you would hang with 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:24.679 her and we're having so much fun. And then she 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:27.040 get on the microphone and then we realized, Wait, aut 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:29.880 job was hanging with Mary. You know what I'm saying. 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.400 Like I didn't realize it until I realized it. But 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:36.480 you could feel the part about them just being real people. 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:39.200 You know, if you if we don't know nothing else 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:41.840 about these artists, we liked them because of that you know, 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:45.640 and that's really what it was. Just being around family. 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:49.440 You know, puff created this energy where it was just 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:53.319 like young black up and coming like the next That's 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:55.520 all that was around. Is everybody that was a Craig 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:58.760 mac over here, like everybody around was on their up. 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:03.480 So it was it was a blessing to come into 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:07.440 a situation like that. Because it's question we all got 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:10.840 that vibe. Okay, question, if you had to give us 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:12.840 your top five and you know we have a lot 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:15.640 of listeners on the Ball the Show podcast, if you 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:17.880 had to give it us your top five of the 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:20.480 records that you had something to do with or do 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:22.800 you have a top five? Or is this is gonna 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:25.200 be hard for you to say. I mean it's you 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:27.680 know what, it probably won't be what most people would 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:30.440 think would be my top five. You know what, Let's 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:33.040 brag a little bit. Let's brag. Come on, give us, 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:35.080 give us, give us a list, give us about ten 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:37.800 records you have something to do with Bonnie and Sean, 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:42.640 with Sean, you know, can't you see what total Dey're wrong? 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:45.680 Would be one of my favorite records. Like I said, 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.080 I got records that people probably wouldn't recognize that they 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:49.760 need to go back and here it's a song called 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:53.720 rest of My Life with nas and the final one 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:56.320 would be Another one that most people don't understand is 0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:59.480 Chuck Baby. I produced the record with Chuck Brown Soul 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:03.160 searches down here in d C. And um, you know 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:06.040 it's like a d C classes, you know. But I'm 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:09.600 super proud of that record. That's like total total record 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:13.960 was a big record. Yeah, man, I mean shot off 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:17.040 to Rashard Tumblin Dice he you know, it was like 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:20.160 a synergy around us, like it was walking the room 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:23.680 and just started working. So Rashard had something going. I 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:27.560 came in and added some pieces. You know. Puff put 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:29.720 the cherry on top of as Big to get on it. 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:32.640 I think he paid them five thousand longs to know 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:35.320 what I'm saying. But Big was a hustler, so he 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:36.920 snatched it. It, did it and done. You know what 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:40.280 I mean was family. So it was a lot of 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:43.840 a lot of good love back then. So Mary J. 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:47.680 Blige is in the spotlight right now. Heavy you know 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:50.720 she She's always in a spotlight to me. But as 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:56.080 of right now, my life celebrates the anniversary this year 0:15:56.640 --> 0:16:00.240 the Mary J. Blige My Life documentary is actually out 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:05.480 on Amazon pime um. How is think that the fans 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:07.280 are going to react to this documentary and what does 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:09.360 it mean to you to actually be a part of 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:12.520 it to some degree, I think the fans are gonna 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:15.280 love it because it goes back to what I was saying, like, 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:18.880 she's a real one, you know she She's a super 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:22.840 real one, and this story shows you behind the curtain. 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:25.320 You know, we already see this Wizard of Odd story, 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:27.520 you know what I'm saying, And what's out in front 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:30.400 is one thing. You go behind that curtain, it ain't pretty, 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:32.920 you know what I'm saying. To keep up that that 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:35.480 look of what's out front. But she was, she was 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:37.760 so dope that she just said, you know what, that's 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:40.800 the best way for me to to to be able 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:44.320 to connect with the people is to just be as 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:47.440 real as possible, you know what I'm saying. And with 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:49.840 the crazy part about it was real painful for her 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:53.080 after the success of the record, because you think about it, 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:57.280 You're going through a situation that's probably the lowest point 0:16:57.320 --> 0:16:59.880 in your life, and that was being broadcasts all over 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.520 you know what I'm saying, and you gotta get on stage, 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:05.800 you gotta single for four and these these songs are painful. 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:09.080 So you know, I give a lot of credit to 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:13.800 her to be able to, you know, just expose herself 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:15.600 like that. You know what I'm talking. I'm talking about 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:19.720 some ugly truths in it, and this documentary it just 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:23.160 you know, it packages it up. It packages it up 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:26.760 for everybody that loves her to really understand, you know, 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:29.440 all that goes on with her, you know what I'm saying, 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:34.560 just from just being married, you know. Um And and 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:36.720 I'm I'm proud of it. I really like how it 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:40.359 came out, you know. I like the fact that this record, 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:43.480 I mean, for a time that we were just I 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:46.359 don't know, it's like being a somebody that builds houses 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:49.320 and you're just making sure to screws in the right place, 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:50.760 and you know what I mean, and then you just 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:53.480 step away, you off to the next house. But then 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:55.320 for people to come back and just look at the 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:59.040 house and admire and just see the art in the 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:01.120 work that we put in, you know what I mean, 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:04.720 It is incredible. Twenty five years of of of a 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:08.240 situation that took four months. That record was done in 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:13.280 four months, So it's like, you know, I'm I'm I'm 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:17.320 overwhelmed with I don't even know how to put this 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:20.360 right now. So I'm just happy and I want everybody 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:22.560 to just check it out, you know, and look at 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:24.960 it from a couple of different angles. You know that 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:27.200 there was a lot of it was a lot of love. 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:29.320 It's like when you look at the Motown story and 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:31.600 you think about all that love that went into making 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:35.120 those records. Puff took a page right out of that book, 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:37.600 and that's what we were doing. It was just it 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:40.760 was a lot of God around, you know, it had 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:42.840 to be for that record to turn out that way 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:47.840 and still be relevant, you know. So I'm happy it 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:50.639 is absolutely still relevant. I mean, I think it's I 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:53.040 think that that's kind of what makes a classical classic, 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:56.159 is that new generations to come can still relate to 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:59.720 the music and still feel it. I'm just happy they 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:02.720 let me be the canvas. You know, when when when 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:06.320 you're an artists, if you don't have a good canvas, 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:08.600 your paint not gonna stick right, you know what I mean, 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:11.520 something he's gonna be right. So that's just the part 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:13.679 that I feel like I played with that, Like, you know, 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:15.920 the master Chef, you know what I mean. But they 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:19.800 were they were the you know, they weren't agreed. They 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:21.960 just let me season and you know, let me do 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:25.200 my thing, and that kind of trust, you know, is 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:29.119 important because I was brand new, you know. She she 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:32.840 had a list of producers from the previous project, but 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:35.600 they all came in kind of you know, we just 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:37.560 sold three million that I that, you know what I mean, 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:39.760 that she just she's real. She's like, you know what, 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:44.160 I'm liking what this is doing. So if she asked, 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:46.439 puff would it be cool if we did the whole project, 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:50.359 It's I was only contracted to do one song, you 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:53.000 know what I'm saying, So it just flipped the whole script. 0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:57.560 Likes Joe, she wants to do the whole album. Mean 0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:00.320 what we were doing. They never met the talk about 0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:03.399 with that. So that's how fast it happened. But I 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:06.719 mean because of that synergy of everybody just being around 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:09.040 each other. It's like, that's what made it happen as 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:11.680 fast as as it did and as dope as it did. 0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:14.080 Like every day that raised was supposed to be on 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:15.960 My Life album. I don't know if you remember that song. 0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:19.280 It was on the show soundtrack. It's a song called 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:23.240 every Day, and that was actually supposed to be on 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:26.240 the My Life album, but I think because the time 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:28.800 of them made of the double album, so then they 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:30.720 were like, you know, and then also Who Shot You 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:35.200 was an interlude on My Life album. People don't know that, 0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:39.320 like Pluff went and got big off the street. It's 0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:42.000 a Friday night, you know what I'm saying. So he 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:46.600 comes in, he shoots that that line, that rhyme. I mean, 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:50.440 he said something even crazier than that, Like he said, 0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:54.520 he said some crazy stuff, and it was so crazy 0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:56.520 that they were gonna they were gonna have to put 0:20:56.640 --> 0:21:00.719 the uh, the parental sticker on her album if they 0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:04.159 would have kept his version. So that's why they switched 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:07.240 it up and got Keith Murray because Bigg's verse was 0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:10.000 so gangster. But look at the time frame. Everybody's trying 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:14.160