Speaker 1: I am all in again.
Speaker 2: Oh that's just you.
Speaker 1: Hi am all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all In Podcast One
Speaker 1: of Them Productions, Season one, episode twenty ps I Love
Speaker 1: You Air date May third, two thousand and one. Very
Speaker 1: special guest Aris Alvarado, who played the one and Only Caesar,
Speaker 1: the Great Caesar. All Hail Caesar, Great Caesar's ghost. He's here, Caesar,
Speaker 1: Aris welcome. How you doing, buddy?
Speaker 2: You're good, Thank you, Thank you for inviting me. I'm
Speaker 2: doing great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how are you not too shabby now? Director Lev
Speaker 1: l Spiro. Written by Elaine Arada and Joan What did
Speaker 1: you think, Bud? What did you think of the episode?
Speaker 1: Max Medina is all over this thing? I know, I know,
Speaker 1: Mean is all over it. Emily is everywhere, Luke is
Speaker 1: even She's like getting his fashion thing happening. What has
Speaker 1: happened with this episode? You know? What?
Speaker 2: Else is all over the place that I noticed?
Speaker 1: Lee, Robert Lee was everywhere in the background.
Speaker 2: You can get off the bus work.
Speaker 1: It was Robert Lee's finest hour.
Speaker 2: I love that guy.
Speaker 1: He was It was like, man, they must have been
Speaker 1: paying him like double triple. Now.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's pretty cool because it makes it seem
Speaker 2: like it is the town. You know, he's everything towns.
Speaker 2: People are going to see him all over the place.
Speaker 1: But he made his bones in my diner, and he
Speaker 1: wasn't in one diner scene in this episode.
Speaker 2: No, I think he was in the beginning he was yeah,
Speaker 2: oh no, wait, oh man, I think he was. I
Speaker 2: saw him. And then then we had another guy, the
Speaker 2: guy before the guy in the kitchen, which I was like,
Speaker 2: who's in my kitchen? Before the kitchen? But I think
Speaker 2: he was in the beginning too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Lee was everywhere and he was wearing the same clothes.
Speaker 2: Did you notice that too?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's wearing the same jacket, the same pants.
Speaker 2: Shopping.
Speaker 1: I must have gone shopping for him too. Here's the question,
Speaker 1: is Laurel I having an affair behind my back with
Speaker 1: Robert Lee?
Speaker 2: Oh? We asked.
Speaker 1: We asked the questions here on this show. We want
Speaker 1: to know, all right, So let's get serious, all right?
Speaker 2: Well, first off, the first scene, it was packed with
Speaker 2: so much Yeah, it was like it's predicting the future.
Speaker 2: Paying that game, the one two three game you being
Speaker 2: is like they're already talking about it. And then doing
Speaker 2: the one two three. Think about one two three with Rory.
Speaker 2: You know, there's Dean, Jazz and Dan Logan, so them
Speaker 2: end up with three Who knows because we still don't
Speaker 2: know if its Logan is the father. It's a it's
Speaker 2: an earthy prediction for the future. It was great.
Speaker 1: Kirk showing up when he did was hilarious. That's really funny.
Speaker 1: And then he and then he leaves. Yeah, but really,
Speaker 1: I mean, what a great opening because when Dean walks by,
Speaker 1: I mean, you didn't see that common, right, you didn't
Speaker 1: see that common So then you hit that nice emotional beat.
Speaker 1: It's just like, get you right in it. That was
Speaker 1: that was really nice opening, really really nice opening. All right.
Speaker 1: Would you ever play a silly game like that ours
Speaker 1: to choose girls?
Speaker 2: I think I probably have in the but I'm pretty
Speaker 2: sure from New York we did stupid We did stupid
Speaker 2: games bat.
Speaker 1: All the time. But you know, poor Rory, she can't
Speaker 1: escape having Dean on her mind.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I feel so bad for everywhere. First it
Speaker 2: was Dean, then with delaying with Dean, and then her
Speaker 2: mom finding out Max. Oh my god, Rory's going just
Speaker 2: one day after another.
Speaker 1: Have you a big episode for her big episode. All right.
Speaker 1: So now we're at the independence end and Max calls
Speaker 1: Michelle answers the phone, and then you love the way
Speaker 1: he just threw the phone as Lauraa just threw it
Speaker 1: and hit hits the desk like a bomb, and she's like,
Speaker 1: what the But that's like normal between them. Didn't piss
Speaker 1: her off or anything. She's just like, oh, that's Michelle
Speaker 1: personal call boom. So you know, we get into this
Speaker 1: whole thing where they're all kind of warm and fuzzy
Speaker 1: with each other and love and he wants to, you know,
Speaker 1: Max wants to have a date, a real date, you know.
Speaker 1: So they make a date, and now we see Lane
Speaker 1: and Rory. They're walking through the streets. Lane gives Rory
Speaker 1: an update on Dean's whereabouts, and interestingly, Rory takes out
Speaker 1: a little piece of a little post it and writes
Speaker 1: that day down where he's not working at where he's
Speaker 1: working at the dosies. She's making a schedule of when
Speaker 1: she can go in there, when she can't go in there.
Speaker 1: He puts it down on a little post it. Now,
Speaker 1: all right, and then laurel I spots Luke walking out
Speaker 1: of that that's what they called.
Speaker 2: What's that story?
Speaker 1: Chat Chat club? Pat cat club. He's got He's got
Speaker 1: a kitty potholders that that meow as a present for
Speaker 1: Rachel's birthday. I mean, the guy's closed. Did you you know?
Speaker 1: This is the first time I felt Luke was a
Speaker 1: little crazy and like these characters like like it happened
Speaker 1: in this episode where Laurel Eyes seemed like Loralize seems
Speaker 1: like the funniest human being, the best stand up comic,
Speaker 1: with the best pop culture references just flying out of
Speaker 1: her mouth. She's like some kind of a genius, right,
Speaker 1: And Luke's some kind of a nut because he stands
Speaker 1: there and he starts ranting about gift gifting and receiving
Speaker 1: gifts and like.
Speaker 2: What's this guy?
Speaker 1: But it's like, it's like it's the unreality of these
Speaker 1: characters that are the are the are the fan favorite
Speaker 1: parts of these characters because nobody could possibly be like this.
Speaker 1: But the writing is so good that you it's like
Speaker 1: you kind of believe that somebody could be like this.
Speaker 2: Well, we don't all have that part of existing, all
Speaker 2: of us, that part of that you know, what, I
Speaker 2: have to do this to get this I like them.
Speaker 2: I have to give a gift to prove how much
Speaker 2: I like them. I showed them how much I like
Speaker 2: them every day or something like that.
Speaker 1: Right, it's like almost a normal conversation. But who verbializes
Speaker 1: this stuff? But but maybe maybe they do. They do
Speaker 1: verbalize it, but nobody in the television world writes about it. No,
Speaker 1: because it's something that fans, would you know, bristle against. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: these two writers do it, Joni and and Eleineorrata, and
Speaker 1: it's just so on brand. It is just so on brand.
Speaker 1: But that's a little bit of the unreality of these
Speaker 1: characters and.
Speaker 2: Probably why people don't like the show all the talkie
Speaker 2: because maybe they're afraid that, you know, when they're saying
Speaker 2: stuff that they don't want to say. The people that
Speaker 2: don't like the show, they.
Speaker 1: Don't you know what, I think we need to have
Speaker 1: a guest, Emma Jackie. We need to get somebody on
Speaker 1: here that doesn't like the show. That would be an
Speaker 1: interesting They just put that person up against me. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna throw it down the gauntlet. You
Speaker 1: don't like this show, come on here and you tell
Speaker 1: me why. Yeah, we're gonna have We're gonna have a
Speaker 1: cage fight. Let me tell you it would be great.
Speaker 2: You get like a couple of husband, a couple, one
Speaker 2: that doesn't like the show and one that loves the show.
Speaker 1: No, I want to go one on one, one on one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to go one on one with somebody who
Speaker 1: doesn't like the show. And I want another reasons. So
Speaker 1: now we're in the antique and Kim's antiques and Lane
Speaker 1: doesn't tell Rory that she's got Dean as a study partner.
Speaker 1: And one of the great Missus Kim scenes was when
Speaker 1: Dean walks in and she says, oh you, It's like
Speaker 1: she's so good.
Speaker 2: Oh she's great.
Speaker 1: That was so funny. Then you love the fact that
Speaker 1: Dean at that time, I mean Jared was eighteen years
Speaker 1: old and he's like holding his own against Emily Corona
Speaker 1: and doing like a really great scene and being a
Speaker 1: great straight man and doing just enough, and it was
Speaker 1: like just God to have those kind of chops at eighteen, Man,
Speaker 1: he could have been a star. Oh he did. Sorry,
Speaker 1: he's gonna stop working. He doesn't stop working. Yeah, people
Speaker 1: are throwing work. The kid's really good. He's not a
Speaker 1: kid in anymore. He's like in his forties. Kid to
Speaker 1: me anyway, I'll always see him as my as my
Speaker 1: my first on set, like kid son sort of, you know,
Speaker 1: took him under my wing. He was too tall. I
Speaker 1: had to get up on them ladder for him to
Speaker 1: get under my wing. But they're studying and Rory walks
Speaker 1: in and they're talking about her before we even see her.
Speaker 1: And then the camera hits her and it's like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: she heard like five seconds to this maybe more like
Speaker 1: maybe she heard the whole thing, because she when she
Speaker 1: came in, she heard him. Oh that was tough. That
Speaker 1: was tough, you know when you when you have that,
Speaker 1: you know, every everybody's had that with a friend, right,
Speaker 1: everybody's had that conflict and you dumped the friend and
Speaker 1: they did something stupid and they didn't you don't trust
Speaker 1: him anymore.
Speaker 2: You're still talking to your ex and you you.
Speaker 1: Know, the thing is this get over ret Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's not that's when you're young. You know, you don't know.
Speaker 1: That's tough. Yeah, sixteen boy involved that you love, he
Speaker 1: dumped you or you dumped him. The narrative though, right,
Speaker 1: she got dumped. That's the narrative she's pushing. Oh, Rory,
Speaker 1: she's not well.
Speaker 2: She walked away from him, right, right, Yeah, she walked
Speaker 2: away from here.
Speaker 1: All right, and she's soaking up all the sympathy based
Speaker 1: on the assumption, yeah.
Speaker 2: That he dumped her.
Speaker 1: Uh huh. I don't play that game, Rory, don't do it.
Speaker 2: But that's just like one of the many pleasures that
Speaker 2: she gets throughout the the episode.
Speaker 1: You know, what do you so? What do you think
Speaker 1: you think Lane should have told him? Oh Man, told her,
Speaker 1: told told Rory.
Speaker 2: She could have told him, but it just would have
Speaker 2: been another problem and she still would have been pissed off,
Speaker 2: like oh Man, even though it's not Lane's fault. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's cool to sign a partner not well.
Speaker 1: Given that Lane grows is growing up with with her
Speaker 1: her mother, she's you know, steeped in deception, right, she does.
Speaker 1: She's path of least resistance in all areas, so that's
Speaker 1: how she kind of it. So it makes sense, right,
Speaker 1: It's completely makes sense for her character.
Speaker 2: Just like she didn't tell her mom dad Dean was
Speaker 2: coming over for a study.
Speaker 1: And she was trying to protect Rory. I believe that.
Speaker 1: I think she's good hearted, and I do believe I
Speaker 1: believe her. You know, Rory very fragile emotional state. You know,
Speaker 1: that broke her a little bit. So it's a shame.
Speaker 1: But we hope they get back together, you know, we
Speaker 1: hope that they can patch up their friendship, all right.
Speaker 1: So that leads to Rory dumping her coffee into the
Speaker 1: trash cannon you see Lorelai, and they have their walk
Speaker 1: and talk and they get in a big fight, big
Speaker 1: dust up over and I got I got to tell
Speaker 1: you one of the most awkward scenes that made no
Speaker 1: scene so far has made me more uncomfortable than than
Speaker 1: Max Medina having that conversation with Rory at the end
Speaker 1: of class. That was just so cringe and it really
Speaker 1: reconfirmed my original feelings about this from three four years
Speaker 1: ago when I first saw it on our first go
Speaker 1: around on this podcast. Is how disturbing I thought this
Speaker 1: relationship was and how it was going to affect Rory,
Speaker 1: you know, and their relationship in general, mother daughter relationship
Speaker 1: is just so cringe, right, Yeah, And that was a
Speaker 1: and it shocked me that Max Medina was even having
Speaker 1: that conversation with one of his students and thought it
Speaker 1: was okay. I mean, they're just both wow. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And you know, what And I feel my feelings are
Speaker 1: justified by Rory's reaction to the whole thing, because that's
Speaker 1: my reaction to the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Wasn't there, Like I haven't seen all the episodes before,
Speaker 2: but wasn't there another thing where Rory tells her mom
Speaker 2: that it's very uncomfortable anyway that if she started dating
Speaker 2: her her feature or something like that.
Speaker 1: It's like mm hmm.
Speaker 2: It's like, don't do this to me, mom, you know,
Speaker 2: don't lost the boundaries or whatever.
Speaker 1: So that's that they you know, I'm going home, mom,
Speaker 1: you know. She goes home, but and Lola gets there,
Speaker 1: she's not there, and where is she? We don't know
Speaker 1: where she is. And then she pops up at Emily
Speaker 1: to the grandparents, to the grandparents. But before we get there,
Speaker 1: Laura I hits the diner. And what we didn't talk
Speaker 1: about was Luke gave lorele I his credit card so
Speaker 1: she'd go shopping for Yeah, right, I see. It was
Speaker 1: funny the beginning of that scene. She goes shopping, comes back,
Speaker 1: she's got a bunch of bags. What do we think
Speaker 1: about that scene?
Speaker 2: I think that seems hilarious because she's like, I know
Speaker 2: the part where she takes out the suit and she's like,
Speaker 2: that was two hundred or seventy five, one hundred and
Speaker 2: seventy five percent off, Right, she's not listening to you.
Speaker 2: She's not listening to you. She just wantsn't tell you
Speaker 2: that this is good for you.
Speaker 1: Well, it's it's the way I like to see those
Speaker 1: two together, you know, him sort of begrudgingly acquiescing and
Speaker 1: trying on the clothes and you know, I mean, and
Speaker 1: she's in her glory. Right. It's just these two, these
Speaker 1: two are fun to watch sometimes, you know, yep, not
Speaker 1: all the time, but most of the time.
Speaker 2: It meant to be together. This is just part of
Speaker 2: the reason why it's great writing.
Speaker 1: It's great stuff. It's really great stuff. Just misplaying the role.
Speaker 1: It's a great role, just such a great role, such
Speaker 1: great words, great situations. And then who walks in Rachel.
Speaker 2: Another uncomfortable situation.
Speaker 1: Uh oh LAURALI takes off and I'm left with Rachel.
Speaker 1: That's funny stuff.
Speaker 2: Funny stuff now that you know that you were always
Speaker 2: going to end up with her, or that was just
Speaker 2: going to be a tease throughout the whole.
Speaker 1: Oh no, well, I mean yeah, I kind of figured
Speaker 1: I mean you never know.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, you never know because things writers can change
Speaker 2: their mind and yeah you can show up and you know,
Speaker 2: chemistry change everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I think the only two people on
Speaker 1: that show who had job security were you know, Laura
Speaker 1: and Yeah, I mean Lauren. You could have killed off
Speaker 1: every other character. I mean, I didn't know who knew
Speaker 1: at the time.
Speaker 2: I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, it was going pretty good. But you know,
Speaker 1: she's got so many other fellas that she's seeing throughout
Speaker 1: the years, and it's just like, hmmm, maybe it won't
Speaker 1: be man, I hope.
Speaker 2: It's an.
Speaker 1: Everybody it's I tell you, it's good having a job.
Speaker 1: But I was keeping my options open, right, But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it became it became apparent in season four,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, when we got together, and then I
Speaker 1: was like, oh I felt a little better, you know.
Speaker 1: Then I was like, Okay, I can relax a little bit.
Speaker 2: Now do I see the other guy in the kitchen.
Speaker 2: But that's the part when I see the somebody else
Speaker 2: in my kitchen. In that scene where you try it
Speaker 2: where you well, she brings all the clothes to you
Speaker 2: and all the gives.
Speaker 1: Me oh right, right, right, right, right, all right, so
Speaker 1: now we're at Now we're at the Gilmours, right, and
Speaker 1: I was so glad to see Emily and Richard, you know,
Speaker 1: interacting in the way they do. That scene really defined
Speaker 1: their relationship, the ease of it, the honesty of him
Speaker 1: not wanting to go, and how he's going to read
Speaker 1: his paper during her speech and he called the woman
Speaker 1: giving a speech a dipso maniac h And then the
Speaker 1: doorbell rings and it's Rory. And you know the thing
Speaker 1: that that troubled me about that is that Emily just
Speaker 1: opens the door. She doesn't look through the peep pole,
Speaker 1: she just opens the door. I mean, I guess they're
Speaker 1: in a gated community where that's okay, and it's.
Speaker 2: So do they have a guard that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's but it's like, who the heck just opens
Speaker 1: their door at night, right, So, I mean, the they
Speaker 1: didn't know it was kind of I guess it wasn't
Speaker 1: a guard gate or anything gated community because the cab
Speaker 1: driver just rolled right up to the front of the house.
Speaker 1: Oh that's right too, Yeah, it was it was guard gate.
Speaker 1: The guard well she I guess they would have called
Speaker 1: the house and said there's a you know, you got
Speaker 1: a delivery of a granddaughter.
Speaker 2: They're just so used to living in a great neighborhood
Speaker 2: that they're not going to expect any people. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that seems a little strange to me.
Speaker 2: New York. We don't just open the door.
Speaker 1: We're like, no, no, who in the Northeast just op
Speaker 1: flints ther door? Open?
Speaker 2: Who is it?
Speaker 1: I don't know, open the door? No, it doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: It's not nineteen sixty. So anyway, Richard's relieved because he's
Speaker 1: glad to see his granddaughter. But now maybe he doesn't
Speaker 1: have to go to this thing. He offers everybody a drink.
Speaker 2: She's sixteen years old.
Speaker 1: You want to drink, You got a fight with your mom?
Speaker 1: You want to drink, which isn't really so taboo. And
Speaker 1: Emily obviously is very pleased that Rory is there and
Speaker 1: her room is all made up and waiting for her,
Speaker 1: and boy, we see the wheels turning in Emily's eyes,
Speaker 1: don't we We see those wheels turning. Man, she's really
Speaker 1: gonna she's gonna get a lot of man, she's gonna
Speaker 1: have a lot of fun with her daughter. Oh you
Speaker 1: to this one, And it's just a perfect setup, and
Speaker 1: then we cut back to Laurelize house and she's obsession
Speaker 1: to her daughter is I mean, she's real panic and
Speaker 1: Max is there to comfort her. And then after they
Speaker 1: find out, you know, then then the mother calls and
Speaker 1: says she's here, and all that they have a very
Speaker 1: tense phone call. You know, Max is there to comfort her,
Speaker 1: but isn't isn't that where that's where Max? Again? Weird guy,
Speaker 1: I think a little bit because it's like, are you
Speaker 1: telling everybody about our relationship with Laurli?
Speaker 2: They just started dating?
Speaker 1: What are you doing, dude? What are you bringing this
Speaker 1: up for? She's the woman's got adrenaline and quarters all
Speaker 1: pumping through her veins right now because her daughter, she
Speaker 1: thought her daughter might be kidnapped. And you're sitting there, like,
Speaker 1: you know, being a weenie about why didn't you tell
Speaker 1: everybody that we were dating? I mean, it was like,
Speaker 1: what is happening with this guy?
Speaker 2: It was weird, right, weird because it's like at that
Speaker 2: moment and they already been talking on the phone. It's
Speaker 2: not like they have even gone on her first date,
Speaker 2: he said, right, So it's like, what, dude.
Speaker 1: That's not what you would call playing it cool. No,
Speaker 1: he wasn't playing it cool right there. Well, look, I
Speaker 1: think Emily is trying to genuinely help Rory, and or
Speaker 1: do you think she's using the moment to prove the
Speaker 1: Laurel I that Rory chooses her side, like like, Emily's
Speaker 1: gonna blow this out of proportion, right, right, She's like
Speaker 1: a political operative who tries to make some little thing
Speaker 1: into a giant scandal to make the other side look bad,
Speaker 1: which we are experiencing, you know, for the last two
Speaker 1: decades now in politics. But you know, Emily, it's similar
Speaker 1: behavior where it's like, you know, never let a crisis
Speaker 1: go unused, never waste a crisis. You know, you can
Speaker 1: make a lot of hay with a crisis, even a
Speaker 1: small one. And this is a bit of a crisis.
Speaker 1: So Emily's gonna, you know, she's gonna get political about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, she's gonna tell her how to raise her
Speaker 2: own kid. You know, that's perfect advantage for her to Right.
Speaker 1: So here's here's a question. Do you do you think
Speaker 1: Laurel I is intentionally hiding her relationship with Max.
Speaker 2: I think she hadn't really even Yeah, I think so consciously, yes,
Speaker 2: But also it's like.
Speaker 1: Right, I don't, right, I don't think it's a conscious thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so consciously, yes, But they're just starting, you know,
Speaker 2: it's just starting to row, right, haven't Well he got
Speaker 2: up to speed yet.
Speaker 1: Right, because they broke up and now they're didn't they
Speaker 1: they get together a little bit now and now they've
Speaker 1: stopped it.
Speaker 2: I was trying to remember that they already started dating
Speaker 2: and they broke up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and uh now they're started up again, so
Speaker 1: I can see her not But anyway, we get to
Speaker 1: the end of the episode and she starts going through
Speaker 1: a phone book calling people said she's so that was
Speaker 1: a little I don't know. So the next morning at
Speaker 1: the Gilmour House, Rory comes down for breakfast. She gets
Speaker 1: a nice plate of eggs. You know, she usually has
Speaker 1: a pop tart, but now she wants like the royal treatment.
Speaker 1: And man, I was just thinking, how nice it would
Speaker 1: be to have a full time chef. People live like that, right,
Speaker 1: It's like, how nice would that be?
Speaker 2: Breakfast table?
Speaker 1: What do you want?
Speaker 2: It's like it's like, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, it's like you turn your house into a twenty
Speaker 1: four hour room service. That's that's brilliant. That's brilliant. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna look into that, yeah, because I love cooking, but man,
Speaker 1: it'd be nice to walk downstairs and say, hey, you
Speaker 1: know how about a plate of actions and bacon and so.
Speaker 1: So Laura l I goes into into to Luke's and
Speaker 1: tells about Rory and he gets a little anxious and
Speaker 1: concerned and you know, all that kind of stuff. They
Speaker 1: discuss their equal hatred for Dean.
Speaker 2: She doesn't mention Max in that conversation. She already mentions Dee,
Speaker 2: and Rory's also upset about Max, but she doesn't say
Speaker 2: that to.
Speaker 1: Luke, right right, good, good catch. Yeah, no way she's
Speaker 1: gonna mention Max. So laurel I walks into Dosi's and
Speaker 1: the first thing she says to Dean is a line
Speaker 1: that was borrowed from Remember that movie The Graduate with
Speaker 1: Dustin Hoffman and Bancroft, Murray Hamilton. Yes, Katherine Ross the
Speaker 1: Graduate and Mary Hamilton comes into Dustin Hoffman's room at Berkeley,
Speaker 1: right because he's he's he's going after Catherine Ross, Marray
Speaker 1: Hamilton's daughter. But Anne Bancroft told all these terrible stories, right,
Speaker 1: you saw the movie, right, yea? And Murray Hamilton is
Speaker 1: waiting for Dustin Hoffman in his room, his attic room.
Speaker 1: And as soon as as soon as Dustin Hoffman walks in,
Speaker 1: what is Murray Hamilton say when he stands up and
Speaker 1: he goes over to him and he goes, I think
Speaker 1: you are scum. I think you are filth. You're a degenerate. Right,
Speaker 1: This is what he says to Dustin Hoffmann, Right, Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And Laurel I walked up to Dean and says, I
Speaker 1: think you are scumb I laughed so hard because it's
Speaker 1: a good you know, you know, it's a good thing
Speaker 1: to borrow. Anyway, I just wanted to let I'm sure
Speaker 1: a lot of the fans know that are that are listening. No,
Speaker 1: that's from but that's what that's from. And if you
Speaker 1: haven't seen The Graduate, I saw it long time ago. No, no,
Speaker 1: I'm saying to the fans, I mean, you've got it.
Speaker 1: You gotta download The Graduate. You've got to see this film.
Speaker 1: It is one of the great films, Mike Nichols, one
Speaker 1: of the great films of all time. And it's the
Speaker 1: first time I'm like a normal looking dude. Well maybe
Speaker 1: not the first time, but in modern times, a normal
Speaker 1: looking dude got the lead of a film, the romantic
Speaker 1: lead of a film, because I think they were considering
Speaker 1: Robert Redford, and uh, you know, Mike Nichols was like,
Speaker 1: you know, let's go another way. Yeah, can you imagine
Speaker 1: rejecting Robert Redford? What that film made late sixties ninety
Speaker 1: seventy was anyway, great movie, just a great movie. So
Speaker 1: that that's when Dean reveals that he said, jeez, you know,
Speaker 1: all I did was love her, and she she took close,
Speaker 1: you know, she dumped me. So I just want you to
Speaker 1: leave me alone. Tunced up my butt. It's like Jesus Man, girls,
Speaker 1: poor guy, he wants to go back to Chicago. A
Speaker 1: great scene though, So now Laura I knows and she
Speaker 1: tells Rory she knows. And that's a very nice scene
Speaker 1: for me. That is like the scene of so far
Speaker 1: of the series between those two. That was a really touching, tender,
Speaker 1: beautiful scene and it and it shows why every fan
Speaker 1: wants Lauren Graham to be their mom, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, because she listens, she listens, and she's like
Speaker 1: she's in tune with Rory. She feels her own daughter.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like it's full time. She never
Speaker 1: takes her eye off the ball. And even with this
Speaker 1: MAX stuff and you what are you doing with this
Speaker 1: Max stuff? It's like you forgive her because you know
Speaker 1: she's listening to her daughter. She and this is the
Speaker 1: big challenge with child rearing is is are you in
Speaker 1: tune with your kids? Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: To them? Yeah? Do you? Or do you just lecture
Speaker 1: them and you know, go away? So really beautiful scene. Really,
Speaker 1: the whole the whole basis for this entire series is
Speaker 1: this relationship. And it's just so great. It's so strong
Speaker 1: between them, and it's so great to see them. Rory
Speaker 1: fall into her arms right away, you know, soon as
Speaker 1: soon as Laurli walks into the room, Rory just gets
Speaker 1: up and falls into her arms. I mean it's it's
Speaker 1: really just really a very true to life, really lovely scene.
Speaker 1: Love that scene, my favorite scene of the whole show.
Speaker 1: It really was. I mean it really. I gotta tell you,
Speaker 1: I got a little for clemped.
Speaker 2: Well. She tells her, I don't want you to not
Speaker 2: to be able to say I love you?
Speaker 1: Right, Wow, Yeah, I know right. It's powerful stuff, powerful stuff.
Speaker 1: You get a little teary eyed.
Speaker 2: I see, oh, yeah, that was, you know, not to
Speaker 2: be able to say I love you for the right reasons.
Speaker 2: She tells her too, not just to say it, but
Speaker 2: not to be able to say that or feeling yeah.
Speaker 1: But then you know, Emily's still giving Laurela a hard time.
Speaker 1: She gives her a lot of a lot of crap
Speaker 1: right in front of her own daughter. And Rory never says, Grandma,
Speaker 1: stopped talking to you my mom that way, and Laura
Speaker 1: I says, Mom, don't talk to me that way in
Speaker 1: front of her daughter. It's always just sort of like
Speaker 1: for the comedy of it, see again, it's the unreality
Speaker 1: of it that blends so seamlessly with the reality of
Speaker 1: the situation, which makes it really doable and funny and believable. Right, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know that a show has done that better,
Speaker 1: and this show doesn't. It really just it's seamless, the
Speaker 1: fact versus with the fiction blending that stuff. It's just
Speaker 1: so effortless, and it's just it just eases right into it.
Speaker 1: It makes it super believable. And then they're driving home
Speaker 1: and they're having that nice talk and she stops at
Speaker 1: lanes and we see them hug, and you know, it's
Speaker 1: just all good feelings, good stuff. You got to go
Speaker 1: through all that agida right through the through the episode.
Speaker 1: And this was a really strong episode because it had
Speaker 1: a lot of drama, and it had a lot of
Speaker 1: really high level drama, and it had a lot of laughs.
Speaker 1: It was a very good balance. I thought of the
Speaker 1: episode so far, the twenty episodes so far, I thought, this,
Speaker 1: this is right at the top of the list of
Speaker 1: one of the finest. And what a way to start
Speaker 1: a series. I mean, this is year one. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is year one, and it's firing on all cylinders
Speaker 1: and it has been, you know, for I mean I
Speaker 1: don't know from was from episode one or three or something.
Speaker 1: I'm just firing on all cylinders.
Speaker 2: And this feels like it could be a first episode two.
Speaker 2: It has so much information packed in it because I
Speaker 2: haven't watched the whole thing, and I just watched this
Speaker 2: one episode and I was like, wow, just watching this,
Speaker 2: I know what's going on.
Speaker 1: You know, that's an interesting thought.
Speaker 2: You know, even the relationship between you and and everybody,
Speaker 2: all the relationship between you and Loralai, even even you
Speaker 2: you're already a father figure to Rory there, right, and
Speaker 2: you don't have to say anything or act like Max
Speaker 2: Medina getting all in her business.
Speaker 1: You're just there coetic, right, what if that was the
Speaker 1: pilot episode?
Speaker 2: It felt like it when they started in a diner
Speaker 2: that first scene, it was like, well, I know these
Speaker 2: characters in that first scene, what's going on? They're paying
Speaker 2: this quirky game the dreams. She talked about this dream
Speaker 2: with a magician breaking up for twenty you give it
Speaker 2: her back quarters Like, that's.
Speaker 1: So nutty, huh. I mean, I thought the pilot was
Speaker 1: pretty darn strong, but oh yeah, this as a pilot episode. Interesting? Well, fans,
Speaker 1: what do you think? Chime in? Let us know, let
Speaker 1: us know your thoughts. If you thought, if you think
Speaker 1: Aris is a genius, because that kind of I'm thinking
Speaker 1: Ris is kind of a genius right now. Do you
Speaker 1: think that episode twenty ps I love you could have
Speaker 1: been the pilot as well? Would you have been confused?
Speaker 1: Would you have been as engaged? Would you have fallen
Speaker 1: in love with these characters the way you did in
Speaker 1: the pilot? So let us know through our socials. She
Speaker 1: calls Max at the end of the episode, we gotta
Speaker 1: get to we get you know, they got to wrap
Speaker 1: it up. Laurle gets off the phone with Max, you know, high,
Speaker 1: high high a nice thing. They're in love. He's happy,
Speaker 1: she's happy. And then she gets out her phone books.
Speaker 1: She calls Richie. She's going to start telling people about
Speaker 1: her relationship with Max. All right, she's actually doing that.
Speaker 1: Well anyway, tied it up with a nice bow. Terrific episode,
Speaker 1: I mean, really really strong all the way through. Uh,
Speaker 1: there just wasn't there wasn't a chance to catch your
Speaker 1: breath at all. It was just great stuff, fully full engagement.
Speaker 1: All right, I got some rapid fire questions for you. Okay,
Speaker 1: are you ready?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Alright? Coffee or tea, tea, chilting or Yale childed Team,
Speaker 1: Dean jess or Logan Yes, Richard, Emily Richard favorite season.
Speaker 2: Ooh, I would have to say one because I just
Speaker 2: watched this episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty great in it. One word to describe
Speaker 1: to Gilmore Girls warm, favorite character Kirk, most iconic Gillmore
Speaker 1: Girls quote.
Speaker 2: Ah, coffee, coffee, coffee.
Speaker 1: Nice Luke's diner or Friday night dinner diner. Baby, you
Speaker 1: go bringing it home, buddy?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Listen, Uh your short film rewind Uh to Her is
Speaker 1: premiering soon. Can you tell us a little bit about
Speaker 1: your role in this film.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I pay like a tech guy who I'm
Speaker 2: a tech dealer who could connect you to a computer
Speaker 2: and make you relive your past.
Speaker 1: Okay, but you can't be in.
Speaker 2: There too long or you can die. So to people
Speaker 2: and I just and I make him relieve their past
Speaker 2: and make lots of money.
Speaker 1: Out of it. You are blowing my mind. That is fantastic.
Speaker 1: All right, So fans can catch you on Bootyology and
Speaker 1: Ghostbusters south.
Speaker 2: Side Outside south Side.
Speaker 1: Wow, what treat to those projects? Well?
Speaker 2: Ghostbuster south Side, Sony approached some friends of mine and
Speaker 2: they were they were trying to sell some of their
Speaker 2: movie ideas and they were like, well, you guys are nobodies.
Speaker 2: Can you come up with something else? Well, they had
Speaker 2: a ghost ghostbusterspect and they said, go ahead and make
Speaker 2: a short film bring it back to us. So he
Speaker 2: made a short film about Ghostbusters based in south central LA.
Speaker 2: And Sony loved it. But dan Akur said no, thank you.
Speaker 2: But Sony loved it, and they gave us. They gave
Speaker 2: us like an old theater to get a special premiere
Speaker 2: of the Ghostbuster after like move after light movies.
Speaker 1: So okay, what is available on YouTube.
Speaker 2: You can watch it there. It's a fun little sixteen
Speaker 2: minutes short.
Speaker 1: All right, everybody checking out, all right, Ghostbusters south Side
Speaker 1: and we are talking to Aris Alvarado played Caesar so brilliantly, Buddy.
Speaker 1: Great catching up with you. He always a blast. Hope
Speaker 1: to see you soon, soon, soon, and we will see
Speaker 1: you next time. Everybody. Next episode, Season one, episode twenty one,
Speaker 1: Love Daisies and Troubadours. Aris, Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: your time, buddy, and remember bet you are the best
Speaker 1: fans on the planet bar none. And where you lead,
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