1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: I am all in again. 2 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 2: Oh that's just you. 3 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: Hi am all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio podcast. 4 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all In Podcast One 5 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: of Them Productions, Season one, episode twenty ps I Love 6 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: You Air date May third, two thousand and one. Very 7 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: special guest Aris Alvarado, who played the one and Only Caesar, 8 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: the Great Caesar. All Hail Caesar, Great Caesar's ghost. He's here, Caesar, 9 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: Aris welcome. How you doing, buddy? 10 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: You're good, Thank you, Thank you for inviting me. I'm 11 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: doing great. 12 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, how are you not too shabby now? Director Lev 13 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: l Spiro. Written by Elaine Arada and Joan What did 14 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: you think, Bud? What did you think of the episode? 15 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: Max Medina is all over this thing? I know, I know, 16 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: Mean is all over it. Emily is everywhere, Luke is 17 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: even She's like getting his fashion thing happening. What has 18 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: happened with this episode? You know? What? 19 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 2: Else is all over the place that I noticed? 20 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: Lee, Robert Lee was everywhere in the background. 21 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 2: You can get off the bus work. 22 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 1: It was Robert Lee's finest hour. 23 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 2: I love that guy. 24 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: He was It was like, man, they must have been 25 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: paying him like double triple. Now. 26 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: I mean, he's pretty cool because it makes it seem 27 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: like it is the town. You know, he's everything towns. 28 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: People are going to see him all over the place. 29 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: But he made his bones in my diner, and he 30 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: wasn't in one diner scene in this episode. 31 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: No, I think he was in the beginning he was yeah, 32 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 2: oh no, wait, oh man, I think he was. I 33 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 2: saw him. And then then we had another guy, the 34 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: guy before the guy in the kitchen, which I was like, 35 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 2: who's in my kitchen? Before the kitchen? But I think 36 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: he was in the beginning too. Yeah. 37 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: Lee was everywhere and he was wearing the same clothes. 38 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: Did you notice that too? 39 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's wearing the same jacket, the same pants. 40 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: Shopping. 41 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: I must have gone shopping for him too. Here's the question, 42 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: is Laurel I having an affair behind my back with 43 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: Robert Lee? 44 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 2: Oh? We asked. 45 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: We asked the questions here on this show. We want 46 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: to know, all right, So let's get serious, all right? 47 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: Well, first off, the first scene, it was packed with 48 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 2: so much Yeah, it was like it's predicting the future. 49 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,839 Speaker 2: Paying that game, the one two three game you being 50 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: is like they're already talking about it. And then doing 51 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: the one two three. Think about one two three with Rory. 52 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: You know, there's Dean, Jazz and Dan Logan, so them 53 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: end up with three Who knows because we still don't 54 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: know if its Logan is the father. It's a it's 55 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: an earthy prediction for the future. It was great. 56 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 1: Kirk showing up when he did was hilarious. That's really funny. 57 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: And then he and then he leaves. Yeah, but really, 58 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: I mean, what a great opening because when Dean walks by, 59 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you didn't see that common, right, you didn't 60 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: see that common So then you hit that nice emotional beat. 61 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: It's just like, get you right in it. That was 62 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: that was really nice opening, really really nice opening. All right. 63 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: Would you ever play a silly game like that ours 64 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: to choose girls? 65 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: I think I probably have in the but I'm pretty 66 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: sure from New York we did stupid We did stupid 67 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 2: games bat. 68 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: All the time. But you know, poor Rory, she can't 69 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: escape having Dean on her mind. 70 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: Oh no, I feel so bad for everywhere. First it 71 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: was Dean, then with delaying with Dean, and then her 72 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 2: mom finding out Max. Oh my god, Rory's going just 73 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 2: one day after another. 74 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: Have you a big episode for her big episode. All right. 75 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: So now we're at the independence end and Max calls 76 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: Michelle answers the phone, and then you love the way 77 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: he just threw the phone as Lauraa just threw it 78 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: and hit hits the desk like a bomb, and she's like, 79 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: what the But that's like normal between them. Didn't piss 80 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: her off or anything. She's just like, oh, that's Michelle 81 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: personal call boom. So you know, we get into this 82 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: whole thing where they're all kind of warm and fuzzy 83 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: with each other and love and he wants to, you know, 84 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: Max wants to have a date, a real date, you know. 85 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: So they make a date, and now we see Lane 86 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: and Rory. They're walking through the streets. Lane gives Rory 87 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: an update on Dean's whereabouts, and interestingly, Rory takes out 88 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: a little piece of a little post it and writes 89 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: that day down where he's not working at where he's 90 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: working at the dosies. She's making a schedule of when 91 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: she can go in there, when she can't go in there. 92 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: He puts it down on a little post it. Now, 93 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: all right, and then laurel I spots Luke walking out 94 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: of that that's what they called. 95 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: What's that story? 96 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,559 Speaker 1: Chat Chat club? Pat cat club. He's got He's got 97 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: a kitty potholders that that meow as a present for 98 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 1: Rachel's birthday. I mean, the guy's closed. Did you you know? 99 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: This is the first time I felt Luke was a 100 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: little crazy and like these characters like like it happened 101 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: in this episode where Laurel Eyes seemed like Loralize seems 102 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: like the funniest human being, the best stand up comic, 103 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: with the best pop culture references just flying out of 104 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: her mouth. She's like some kind of a genius, right, 105 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: And Luke's some kind of a nut because he stands 106 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: there and he starts ranting about gift gifting and receiving 107 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: gifts and like. 108 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: What's this guy? 109 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: But it's like, it's like it's the unreality of these 110 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: characters that are the are the are the fan favorite 111 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: parts of these characters because nobody could possibly be like this. 112 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: But the writing is so good that you it's like 113 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: you kind of believe that somebody could be like this. 114 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 2: Well, we don't all have that part of existing, all 115 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 2: of us, that part of that you know, what, I 116 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: have to do this to get this I like them. 117 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: I have to give a gift to prove how much 118 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 2: I like them. I showed them how much I like 119 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 2: them every day or something like that. 120 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: Right, it's like almost a normal conversation. But who verbializes 121 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: this stuff? But but maybe maybe they do. They do 122 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: verbalize it, but nobody in the television world writes about it. No, 123 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: because it's something that fans, would you know, bristle against. Right, Yeah, 124 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: these two writers do it, Joni and and Eleineorrata, and 125 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: it's just so on brand. It is just so on brand. 126 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: But that's a little bit of the unreality of these 127 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: characters and. 128 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 2: Probably why people don't like the show all the talkie 129 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: because maybe they're afraid that, you know, when they're saying 130 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: stuff that they don't want to say. The people that 131 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: don't like the show, they. 132 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: Don't you know what, I think we need to have 133 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: a guest, Emma Jackie. We need to get somebody on 134 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: here that doesn't like the show. That would be an 135 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: interesting They just put that person up against me. Yes, yes, 136 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna throw it down the gauntlet. You 137 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: don't like this show, come on here and you tell 138 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: me why. Yeah, we're gonna have We're gonna have a 139 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: cage fight. Let me tell you it would be great. 140 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: You get like a couple of husband, a couple, one 141 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: that doesn't like the show and one that loves the show. 142 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: No, I want to go one on one, one on one. Yeah, 143 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: I want to go one on one with somebody who 144 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: doesn't like the show. And I want another reasons. So 145 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: now we're in the antique and Kim's antiques and Lane 146 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: doesn't tell Rory that she's got Dean as a study partner. 147 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: And one of the great Missus Kim scenes was when 148 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: Dean walks in and she says, oh you, It's like 149 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: she's so good. 150 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 2: Oh she's great. 151 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: That was so funny. Then you love the fact that 152 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: Dean at that time, I mean Jared was eighteen years 153 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: old and he's like holding his own against Emily Corona 154 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: and doing like a really great scene and being a 155 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: great straight man and doing just enough, and it was 156 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: like just God to have those kind of chops at eighteen, Man, 157 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: he could have been a star. Oh he did. Sorry, 158 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: he's gonna stop working. He doesn't stop working. Yeah, people 159 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,599 Speaker 1: are throwing work. The kid's really good. He's not a 160 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: kid in anymore. He's like in his forties. Kid to 161 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: me anyway, I'll always see him as my as my 162 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: my first on set, like kid son sort of, you know, 163 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: took him under my wing. He was too tall. I 164 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: had to get up on them ladder for him to 165 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: get under my wing. But they're studying and Rory walks 166 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: in and they're talking about her before we even see her. 167 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: And then the camera hits her and it's like, oh, man, 168 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: she heard like five seconds to this maybe more like 169 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: maybe she heard the whole thing, because she when she 170 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: came in, she heard him. Oh that was tough. That 171 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: was tough, you know when you when you have that, 172 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: you know, every everybody's had that with a friend, right, 173 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: everybody's had that conflict and you dumped the friend and 174 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: they did something stupid and they didn't you don't trust 175 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: him anymore. 176 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 2: You're still talking to your ex and you you. 177 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: Know, the thing is this get over ret Yeah. 178 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: That's not that's when you're young. You know, you don't know. 179 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: That's tough. Yeah, sixteen boy involved that you love, he 180 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: dumped you or you dumped him. The narrative though, right, 181 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: she got dumped. That's the narrative she's pushing. Oh, Rory, 182 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: she's not well. 183 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 2: She walked away from him, right, right, Yeah, she walked 184 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 2: away from here. 185 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: All right, and she's soaking up all the sympathy based 186 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: on the assumption, yeah. 187 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: That he dumped her. 188 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: Uh huh. I don't play that game, Rory, don't do it. 189 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 2: But that's just like one of the many pleasures that 190 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 2: she gets throughout the the episode. 191 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: You know, what do you so? What do you think 192 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: you think Lane should have told him? Oh Man, told her, 193 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: told told Rory. 194 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 2: She could have told him, but it just would have 195 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: been another problem and she still would have been pissed off, 196 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 2: like oh Man, even though it's not Lane's fault. I mean, 197 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: that's cool to sign a partner not well. 198 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: Given that Lane grows is growing up with with her 199 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: her mother, she's you know, steeped in deception, right, she does. 200 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: She's path of least resistance in all areas, so that's 201 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: how she kind of it. So it makes sense, right, 202 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: It's completely makes sense for her character. 203 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 2: Just like she didn't tell her mom dad Dean was 204 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: coming over for a study. 205 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: And she was trying to protect Rory. I believe that. 206 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: I think she's good hearted, and I do believe I 207 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: believe her. You know, Rory very fragile emotional state. You know, 208 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: that broke her a little bit. So it's a shame. 209 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: But we hope they get back together, you know, we 210 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: hope that they can patch up their friendship, all right. 211 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: So that leads to Rory dumping her coffee into the 212 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: trash cannon you see Lorelai, and they have their walk 213 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: and talk and they get in a big fight, big 214 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: dust up over and I got I got to tell 215 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: you one of the most awkward scenes that made no 216 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: scene so far has made me more uncomfortable than than 217 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: Max Medina having that conversation with Rory at the end 218 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: of class. That was just so cringe and it really 219 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: reconfirmed my original feelings about this from three four years 220 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: ago when I first saw it on our first go 221 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: around on this podcast. Is how disturbing I thought this 222 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: relationship was and how it was going to affect Rory, 223 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,119 Speaker 1: you know, and their relationship in general, mother daughter relationship 224 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: is just so cringe, right, Yeah, And that was a 225 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: and it shocked me that Max Medina was even having 226 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: that conversation with one of his students and thought it 227 00:12:54,679 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: was okay. I mean, they're just both wow. Yeah. Yeah, 228 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: And you know, what And I feel my feelings are 229 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: justified by Rory's reaction to the whole thing, because that's 230 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: my reaction to the whole thing. 231 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 2: Wasn't there, Like I haven't seen all the episodes before, 232 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 2: but wasn't there another thing where Rory tells her mom 233 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 2: that it's very uncomfortable anyway that if she started dating 234 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 2: her her feature or something like that. 235 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: It's like mm hmm. 236 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 2: It's like, don't do this to me, mom, you know, 237 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 2: don't lost the boundaries or whatever. 238 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: So that's that they you know, I'm going home, mom, 239 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: you know. She goes home, but and Lola gets there, 240 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: she's not there, and where is she? We don't know 241 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: where she is. And then she pops up at Emily 242 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: to the grandparents, to the grandparents. But before we get there, 243 00:13:52,880 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: Laura I hits the diner. And what we didn't talk 244 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: about was Luke gave lorele I his credit card so 245 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: she'd go shopping for Yeah, right, I see. It was 246 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: funny the beginning of that scene. She goes shopping, comes back, 247 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 1: she's got a bunch of bags. What do we think 248 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: about that scene? 249 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: I think that seems hilarious because she's like, I know 250 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: the part where she takes out the suit and she's like, 251 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: that was two hundred or seventy five, one hundred and 252 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: seventy five percent off, Right, she's not listening to you. 253 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: She's not listening to you. She just wantsn't tell you 254 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 2: that this is good for you. 255 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: Well, it's it's the way I like to see those 256 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: two together, you know, him sort of begrudgingly acquiescing and 257 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: trying on the clothes and you know, I mean, and 258 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: she's in her glory. Right. It's just these two, these 259 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: two are fun to watch sometimes, you know, yep, not 260 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: all the time, but most of the time. 261 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 2: It meant to be together. This is just part of 262 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 2: the reason why it's great writing. 263 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: It's great stuff. It's really great stuff. Just misplaying the role. 264 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: It's a great role, just such a great role, such 265 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: great words, great situations. And then who walks in Rachel. 266 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 2: Another uncomfortable situation. 267 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: Uh oh LAURALI takes off and I'm left with Rachel. 268 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: That's funny stuff. 269 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 2: Funny stuff now that you know that you were always 270 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: going to end up with her, or that was just 271 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,479 Speaker 2: going to be a tease throughout the whole. 272 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: Oh no, well, I mean yeah, I kind of figured 273 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: I mean you never know. 274 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, you never know because things writers can change 275 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: their mind and yeah you can show up and you know, 276 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 2: chemistry change everything. 277 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I think the only two people on 278 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: that show who had job security were you know, Laura 279 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: and Yeah, I mean Lauren. You could have killed off 280 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: every other character. I mean, I didn't know who knew 281 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: at the time. 282 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 2: I didn't know. 283 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, it was going pretty good. But you know, 284 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: she's got so many other fellas that she's seeing throughout 285 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: the years, and it's just like, hmmm, maybe it won't 286 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: be man, I hope. 287 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 2: It's an. 288 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: Everybody it's I tell you, it's good having a job. 289 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: But I was keeping my options open, right, But yeah, 290 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: I mean it became it became apparent in season four, 291 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, when we got together, and then I 292 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: was like, oh I felt a little better, you know. 293 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: Then I was like, Okay, I can relax a little bit. 294 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 2: Now do I see the other guy in the kitchen. 295 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: But that's the part when I see the somebody else 296 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: in my kitchen. In that scene where you try it 297 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 2: where you well, she brings all the clothes to you 298 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 2: and all the gives. 299 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: Me oh right, right, right, right, right, all right, so 300 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: now we're at Now we're at the Gilmours, right, and 301 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: I was so glad to see Emily and Richard, you know, 302 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: interacting in the way they do. That scene really defined 303 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: their relationship, the ease of it, the honesty of him 304 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: not wanting to go, and how he's going to read 305 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: his paper during her speech and he called the woman 306 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: giving a speech a dipso maniac h And then the 307 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: doorbell rings and it's Rory. And you know the thing 308 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: that that troubled me about that is that Emily just 309 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 1: opens the door. She doesn't look through the peep pole, 310 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: she just opens the door. I mean, I guess they're 311 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: in a gated community where that's okay, and it's. 312 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 2: So do they have a guard that? 313 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's but it's like, who the heck just opens 314 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: their door at night, right, So, I mean, the they 315 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: didn't know it was kind of I guess it wasn't 316 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: a guard gate or anything gated community because the cab 317 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: driver just rolled right up to the front of the house. 318 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: Oh that's right too, Yeah, it was it was guard gate. 319 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: The guard well she I guess they would have called 320 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: the house and said there's a you know, you got 321 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: a delivery of a granddaughter. 322 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 2: They're just so used to living in a great neighborhood 323 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 2: that they're not going to expect any people. I don't know. 324 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, that seems a little strange to me. 325 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 2: New York. We don't just open the door. 326 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,239 Speaker 1: We're like, no, no, who in the Northeast just op 327 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: flints ther door? Open? 328 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 2: Who is it? 329 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, open the door? No, it doesn't happen. 330 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: It's not nineteen sixty. So anyway, Richard's relieved because he's 331 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: glad to see his granddaughter. But now maybe he doesn't 332 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: have to go to this thing. He offers everybody a drink. 333 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 2: She's sixteen years old. 334 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: You want to drink, You got a fight with your mom? 335 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: You want to drink, which isn't really so taboo. And 336 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,959 Speaker 1: Emily obviously is very pleased that Rory is there and 337 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: her room is all made up and waiting for her, 338 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: and boy, we see the wheels turning in Emily's eyes, 339 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: don't we We see those wheels turning. Man, she's really 340 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 1: gonna she's gonna get a lot of man, she's gonna 341 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: have a lot of fun with her daughter. Oh you 342 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: to this one, And it's just a perfect setup, and 343 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: then we cut back to Laurelize house and she's obsession 344 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: to her daughter is I mean, she's real panic and 345 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 1: Max is there to comfort her. And then after they 346 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: find out, you know, then then the mother calls and 347 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: says she's here, and all that they have a very 348 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: tense phone call. You know, Max is there to comfort her, 349 00:19:49,880 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: but isn't isn't that where that's where Max? Again? Weird guy, 350 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: I think a little bit because it's like, are you 351 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: telling everybody about our relationship with Laurli? 352 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 2: They just started dating? 353 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: What are you doing, dude? What are you bringing this 354 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: up for? She's the woman's got adrenaline and quarters all 355 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: pumping through her veins right now because her daughter, she 356 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: thought her daughter might be kidnapped. And you're sitting there, like, 357 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 1: you know, being a weenie about why didn't you tell 358 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: everybody that we were dating? I mean, it was like, 359 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: what is happening with this guy? 360 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 2: It was weird, right, weird because it's like at that 361 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 2: moment and they already been talking on the phone. It's 362 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 2: not like they have even gone on her first date, 363 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 2: he said, right, So it's like, what, dude. 364 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: That's not what you would call playing it cool. No, 365 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: he wasn't playing it cool right there. Well, look, I 366 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: think Emily is trying to genuinely help Rory, and or 367 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: do you think she's using the moment to prove the 368 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: Laurel I that Rory chooses her side, like like, Emily's 369 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: gonna blow this out of proportion, right, right, She's like 370 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: a political operative who tries to make some little thing 371 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: into a giant scandal to make the other side look bad, 372 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: which we are experiencing, you know, for the last two 373 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: decades now in politics. But you know, Emily, it's similar 374 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: behavior where it's like, you know, never let a crisis 375 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: go unused, never waste a crisis. You know, you can 376 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,959 Speaker 1: make a lot of hay with a crisis, even a 377 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: small one. And this is a bit of a crisis. 378 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: So Emily's gonna, you know, she's gonna get political about it. 379 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, she's gonna tell her how to raise her 380 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 2: own kid. You know, that's perfect advantage for her to Right. 381 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: So here's here's a question. Do you do you think 382 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: Laurel I is intentionally hiding her relationship with Max. 383 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 2: I think she hadn't really even Yeah, I think so consciously, yes, 384 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 2: But also it's like. 385 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 1: Right, I don't, right, I don't think it's a conscious thing. 386 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so consciously, yes, But they're just starting, you know, 387 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 2: it's just starting to row, right, haven't Well he got 388 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 2: up to speed yet. 389 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: Right, because they broke up and now they're didn't they 390 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: they get together a little bit now and now they've 391 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:24,959 Speaker 1: stopped it. 392 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 2: I was trying to remember that they already started dating 393 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 2: and they broke up. 394 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and uh now they're started up again, so 395 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: I can see her not But anyway, we get to 396 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: the end of the episode and she starts going through 397 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: a phone book calling people said she's so that was 398 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: a little I don't know. So the next morning at 399 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: the Gilmour House, Rory comes down for breakfast. She gets 400 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: a nice plate of eggs. You know, she usually has 401 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 1: a pop tart, but now she wants like the royal treatment. 402 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: And man, I was just thinking, how nice it would 403 00:22:55,840 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: be to have a full time chef. People live like that, right, 404 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 1: It's like, how nice would that be? 405 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: Breakfast table? 406 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: What do you want? 407 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 2: It's like it's like, I. 408 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: Mean, it's like you turn your house into a twenty 409 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: four hour room service. That's that's brilliant. That's brilliant. I'm 410 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 1: gonna look into that, yeah, because I love cooking, but man, 411 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: it'd be nice to walk downstairs and say, hey, you 412 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: know how about a plate of actions and bacon and so. 413 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: So Laura l I goes into into to Luke's and 414 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: tells about Rory and he gets a little anxious and 415 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: concerned and you know, all that kind of stuff. They 416 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: discuss their equal hatred for Dean. 417 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 2: She doesn't mention Max in that conversation. She already mentions Dee, 418 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 2: and Rory's also upset about Max, but she doesn't say 419 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 2: that to. 420 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: Luke, right right, good, good catch. Yeah, no way she's 421 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: gonna mention Max. So laurel I walks into Dosi's and 422 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: the first thing she says to Dean is a line 423 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: that was borrowed from Remember that movie The Graduate with 424 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: Dustin Hoffman and Bancroft, Murray Hamilton. Yes, Katherine Ross the 425 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: Graduate and Mary Hamilton comes into Dustin Hoffman's room at Berkeley, 426 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: right because he's he's he's going after Catherine Ross, Marray 427 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: Hamilton's daughter. But Anne Bancroft told all these terrible stories, right, 428 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: you saw the movie, right, yea? And Murray Hamilton is 429 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: waiting for Dustin Hoffman in his room, his attic room. 430 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: And as soon as as soon as Dustin Hoffman walks in, 431 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: what is Murray Hamilton say when he stands up and 432 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: he goes over to him and he goes, I think 433 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: you are scum. I think you are filth. You're a degenerate. Right, 434 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: This is what he says to Dustin Hoffmann, Right, Okay, Yeah, 435 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: And Laurel I walked up to Dean and says, I 436 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: think you are scumb I laughed so hard because it's 437 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 1: a good you know, you know, it's a good thing 438 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: to borrow. Anyway, I just wanted to let I'm sure 439 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: a lot of the fans know that are that are listening. No, 440 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: that's from but that's what that's from. And if you 441 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: haven't seen The Graduate, I saw it long time ago. No, no, 442 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying to the fans, I mean, you've got it. 443 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: You gotta download The Graduate. You've got to see this film. 444 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,719 Speaker 1: It is one of the great films, Mike Nichols, one 445 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: of the great films of all time. And it's the 446 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: first time I'm like a normal looking dude. Well maybe 447 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: not the first time, but in modern times, a normal 448 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: looking dude got the lead of a film, the romantic 449 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: lead of a film, because I think they were considering 450 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: Robert Redford, and uh, you know, Mike Nichols was like, 451 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: you know, let's go another way. Yeah, can you imagine 452 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: rejecting Robert Redford? What that film made late sixties ninety 453 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: seventy was anyway, great movie, just a great movie. So 454 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: that that's when Dean reveals that he said, jeez, you know, 455 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: all I did was love her, and she she took close, 456 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: you know, she dumped me. So I just want you to 457 00:26:55,680 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 1: leave me alone. Tunced up my butt. It's like Jesus Man, girls, 458 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: poor guy, he wants to go back to Chicago. A 459 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: great scene though, So now Laura I knows and she 460 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: tells Rory she knows. And that's a very nice scene 461 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: for me. That is like the scene of so far 462 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: of the series between those two. That was a really touching, tender, 463 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: beautiful scene and it and it shows why every fan 464 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,479 Speaker 1: wants Lauren Graham to be their mom, you know what 465 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: I mean, because she listens, she listens, and she's like 466 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: she's in tune with Rory. She feels her own daughter. 467 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like it's full time. She never 468 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: takes her eye off the ball. And even with this 469 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: MAX stuff and you what are you doing with this 470 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: Max stuff? It's like you forgive her because you know 471 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: she's listening to her daughter. She and this is the 472 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: big challenge with child rearing is is are you in 473 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: tune with your kids? Right? 474 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? 475 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: To them? Yeah? Do you? Or do you just lecture 476 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: them and you know, go away? So really beautiful scene. Really, 477 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: the whole the whole basis for this entire series is 478 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: this relationship. And it's just so great. It's so strong 479 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: between them, and it's so great to see them. Rory 480 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: fall into her arms right away, you know, soon as 481 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: soon as Laurli walks into the room, Rory just gets 482 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: up and falls into her arms. I mean it's it's 483 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: really just really a very true to life, really lovely scene. 484 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: Love that scene, my favorite scene of the whole show. 485 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: It really was. I mean it really. I gotta tell you, 486 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: I got a little for clemped. 487 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 2: Well. She tells her, I don't want you to not 488 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 2: to be able to say I love you? 489 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: Right, Wow, Yeah, I know right. It's powerful stuff, powerful stuff. 490 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: You get a little teary eyed. 491 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 2: I see, oh, yeah, that was, you know, not to 492 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 2: be able to say I love you for the right reasons. 493 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 2: She tells her too, not just to say it, but 494 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 2: not to be able to say that or feeling yeah. 495 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: But then you know, Emily's still giving Laurela a hard time. 496 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: She gives her a lot of a lot of crap 497 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: right in front of her own daughter. And Rory never says, Grandma, 498 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: stopped talking to you my mom that way, and Laura 499 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: I says, Mom, don't talk to me that way in 500 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: front of her daughter. It's always just sort of like 501 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: for the comedy of it, see again, it's the unreality 502 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: of it that blends so seamlessly with the reality of 503 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: the situation, which makes it really doable and funny and believable. Right, yeah, 504 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: I don't know that a show has done that better, 505 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: and this show doesn't. It really just it's seamless, the 506 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: fact versus with the fiction blending that stuff. It's just 507 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: so effortless, and it's just it just eases right into it. 508 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: It makes it super believable. And then they're driving home 509 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: and they're having that nice talk and she stops at 510 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: lanes and we see them hug, and you know, it's 511 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: just all good feelings, good stuff. You got to go 512 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: through all that agida right through the through the episode. 513 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: And this was a really strong episode because it had 514 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: a lot of drama, and it had a lot of 515 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: really high level drama, and it had a lot of laughs. 516 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: It was a very good balance. I thought of the 517 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: episode so far, the twenty episodes so far, I thought, this, 518 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: this is right at the top of the list of 519 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: one of the finest. And what a way to start 520 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: a series. I mean, this is year one. Yeah, yeah, 521 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: this is year one, and it's firing on all cylinders 522 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: and it has been, you know, for I mean I 523 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: don't know from was from episode one or three or something. 524 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: I'm just firing on all cylinders. 525 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 2: And this feels like it could be a first episode two. 526 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 2: It has so much information packed in it because I 527 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 2: haven't watched the whole thing, and I just watched this 528 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 2: one episode and I was like, wow, just watching this, 529 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 2: I know what's going on. 530 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: You know, that's an interesting thought. 531 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 2: You know, even the relationship between you and and everybody, 532 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 2: all the relationship between you and Loralai, even even you 533 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 2: you're already a father figure to Rory there, right, and 534 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 2: you don't have to say anything or act like Max 535 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 2: Medina getting all in her business. 536 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: You're just there coetic, right, what if that was the 537 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: pilot episode? 538 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 2: It felt like it when they started in a diner 539 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 2: that first scene, it was like, well, I know these 540 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 2: characters in that first scene, what's going on? They're paying 541 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 2: this quirky game the dreams. She talked about this dream 542 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 2: with a magician breaking up for twenty you give it 543 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 2: her back quarters Like, that's. 544 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: So nutty, huh. I mean, I thought the pilot was 545 00:31:53,920 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: pretty darn strong, but oh yeah, this as a pilot episode. Interesting? Well, fans, 546 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: what do you think? Chime in? Let us know, let 547 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: us know your thoughts. If you thought, if you think 548 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: Aris is a genius, because that kind of I'm thinking 549 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: Ris is kind of a genius right now. Do you 550 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: think that episode twenty ps I love you could have 551 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: been the pilot as well? Would you have been confused? 552 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: Would you have been as engaged? Would you have fallen 553 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: in love with these characters the way you did in 554 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: the pilot? So let us know through our socials. She 555 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: calls Max at the end of the episode, we gotta 556 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: get to we get you know, they got to wrap 557 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: it up. Laurle gets off the phone with Max, you know, high, 558 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: high high a nice thing. They're in love. He's happy, 559 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: she's happy. And then she gets out her phone books. 560 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: She calls Richie. She's going to start telling people about 561 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: her relationship with Max. All right, she's actually doing that. 562 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: Well anyway, tied it up with a nice bow. Terrific episode, 563 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: I mean, really really strong all the way through. Uh, 564 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: there just wasn't there wasn't a chance to catch your 565 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: breath at all. It was just great stuff, fully full engagement. 566 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: All right, I got some rapid fire questions for you. Okay, 567 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: are you ready? 568 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 569 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: Alright? Coffee or tea, tea, chilting or Yale childed Team, 570 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: Dean jess or Logan Yes, Richard, Emily Richard favorite season. 571 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 2: Ooh, I would have to say one because I just 572 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 2: watched this episode. 573 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty great in it. One word to describe 574 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: to Gilmore Girls warm, favorite character Kirk, most iconic Gillmore 575 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: Girls quote. 576 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 2: Ah, coffee, coffee, coffee. 577 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: Nice Luke's diner or Friday night dinner diner. Baby, you 578 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: go bringing it home, buddy? 579 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 2: All right? 580 00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: Listen, Uh your short film rewind Uh to Her is 581 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: premiering soon. Can you tell us a little bit about 582 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: your role in this film. 583 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I pay like a tech guy who I'm 584 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,280 Speaker 2: a tech dealer who could connect you to a computer 585 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 2: and make you relive your past. 586 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: Okay, but you can't be in. 587 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 2: There too long or you can die. So to people 588 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 2: and I just and I make him relieve their past 589 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 2: and make lots of money. 590 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 1: Out of it. You are blowing my mind. That is fantastic. 591 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: All right, So fans can catch you on Bootyology and 592 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: Ghostbusters south. 593 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 2: Side Outside south Side. 594 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: Wow, what treat to those projects? Well? 595 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 2: Ghostbuster south Side, Sony approached some friends of mine and 596 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 2: they were they were trying to sell some of their 597 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 2: movie ideas and they were like, well, you guys are nobodies. 598 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 2: Can you come up with something else? Well, they had 599 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 2: a ghost ghostbusterspect and they said, go ahead and make 600 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 2: a short film bring it back to us. So he 601 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 2: made a short film about Ghostbusters based in south central LA. 602 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 2: And Sony loved it. But dan Akur said no, thank you. 603 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 2: But Sony loved it, and they gave us. They gave 604 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 2: us like an old theater to get a special premiere 605 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 2: of the Ghostbuster after like move after light movies. 606 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: So okay, what is available on YouTube. 607 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 2: You can watch it there. It's a fun little sixteen 608 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 2: minutes short. 609 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: All right, everybody checking out, all right, Ghostbusters south Side 610 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: and we are talking to Aris Alvarado played Caesar so brilliantly, Buddy. 611 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: Great catching up with you. He always a blast. Hope 612 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: to see you soon, soon, soon, and we will see 613 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: you next time. Everybody. Next episode, Season one, episode twenty one, 614 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: Love Daisies and Troubadours. Aris, Thank you so much for 615 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: your time, buddy, and remember bet you are the best 616 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: fans on the planet bar none. And where you lead, 617 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: what are we gonna do, Aris, We're gonna follow him, 618 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: follow You're gonna follow, all right, Love you guys, Stay 619 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: sicked dot Hey everybody, and don't forget Follow us on 620 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,240 Speaker 1: Instagram at I Am all In podcast and email us 621 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: at Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com.