Speaker 1: Her my rookie year. My welcome to the NFL moment
Speaker 1: was like I was rolling in like my my Toyota rental,
Speaker 1: and I park it in the way back of the
Speaker 1: players a lot, and all of a sudden, there's this
Speaker 1: huge semi truck rolls in and parks up right in
Speaker 1: the front and takes like two damn spots backs in,
Speaker 1: backs in. God can eat you up, man. That was
Speaker 1: like my first welcome edit. I was like, Holy, I
Speaker 1: don't even know you can buy some of my trucks.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Dudes. On Dudes, I'm Julian Edelman and I'm
Speaker 1: Rob Gronkows and this is the show where your favorite
Speaker 1: dudes get to talk about their favorite dudes. And on
Speaker 1: today's episode, in order to celebrate Thanksgiving, we are going
Speaker 1: to talk about some Thanksgiving legends. That's right, Jules.
Speaker 2: We get into one of the greatest running backs of
Speaker 2: all time popped out his shoulder, and his shoulder gone
Speaker 2: all right, Max, So we got jewels.
Speaker 1: We had ten games on Turkey Day seven and three
Speaker 1: record the oatter.
Speaker 2: Team that played on Thanksgiving not America's.
Speaker 1: Team, but it could be America's team now it could be.
Speaker 1: And then we get into our one and only and.
Speaker 2: The story behind the iconic but fumble on Thanksgiving, Oh
Speaker 2: my god, and we wrap up by determining what Thanksgiving
Speaker 2: dishes your favorite NFL players are, Football, Turkey. I love
Speaker 2: everything on my Thanksgiving dish, Jules, you.
Speaker 1: Got to stick around to the very end. Let's go
Speaker 1: dudes on Dudes. He's a production of iHeartRadio. Today's Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: and we wanted to bring a special episode dedicated to
Speaker 1: all Thanksgiving theme things. We're gonna go Thanksgiving players, We're
Speaker 1: gonna go over some of our Thanksgiving memories and what
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving means to us.
Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving, Jewels, the best holiday of the year for sure.
Speaker 2: It is you know, incorporates family, U incorporates Pilgrims.
Speaker 1: Pilgrims, Yes, Native Americans? Yes, not Christopher Columbus Native American. Dy. Yes,
Speaker 1: we're back. Food my favorite h in football? Oh? Football,
Speaker 1: oh my favorite? Right? All right, now we're talking with
Speaker 1: else family, family, yes, childhood memories. How there's so many
Speaker 1: memories associated with Thanksgiving. Fights, family fights, always fighting, your
Speaker 1: and there's Turkey Day football before you had organized football
Speaker 1: like Turkey Days just so much. What was your favorite
Speaker 1: thing to do on Thanksgiving. My favorite thing to do
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving. Since I grew up on the West Coast,
Speaker 1: football started so early, so like you'd wake up, there
Speaker 1: wasn't isn't there a game at like nine o'clock, twelve o'clock.
Speaker 1: There's usually three games. Yeah, so you got a twelve
Speaker 1: o'clock game East Coast, a three o'clock and then a
Speaker 1: six o'clock West Coast. You wake up, it's nine o'clock
Speaker 1: and there's football on. So you wake up. Mom's already cooking.
Speaker 1: You organize your team for your Turkey Day game that
Speaker 1: you're gonna go play with your boys in stall Staff.
Speaker 1: You know, just just a bunch of fun. The weather
Speaker 1: is a little colder. Thanksgiving is the best. Thanksgiving is
Speaker 1: the best. I think of the times when we were younger,
Speaker 1: because when we played in the league, we never had things.
Speaker 1: We never really we've been righted on Thanksgiving for real,
Speaker 1: even in college too.
Speaker 2: You know, if you played football in the Division one level,
Speaker 2: you know in the pros, you never really had Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2: You're having Thanksgiving dinner with your teammates.
Speaker 1: Whose house did you go do for Thanksgiving? Whose house
Speaker 1: did I go to? Who was a lineman?
Speaker 2: Comley Yeah, I was at Dan Conley's house.
Speaker 1: Did you go that year? I've been to dan Conley
Speaker 1: Light always had Conley Conley and Mankin's him and his
Speaker 1: wife haves over. Like there was always a veteran group
Speaker 1: guy that always had all the young bucks when we
Speaker 1: were young bucks that didn't have family in the area
Speaker 1: would always host. And I remember Dan Conley did one
Speaker 1: year and he's like the best cookout. He made homemade marshmallows.
Speaker 1: I think he even made homemade beer for the night.
Speaker 1: Did matt Light have wild meat? Oh, without a doubt. So.
Speaker 1: Don't you remember Conley? He would do three turkeys. He
Speaker 1: would deep fry ir regularly like butterball, bake a wild
Speaker 1: game turkey, and then there's like a third turkey that
Speaker 1: he would roast or something like or barbecue. He did
Speaker 1: like three turkeys. He was amazing. You remember how good
Speaker 1: that food was. It was so good. The fry turkey
Speaker 1: right there they made in front of us.
Speaker 2: He let anyone get around it because he wanted to
Speaker 2: just make it spectacular and like to the tea of
Speaker 2: like the exact way it was supposed to be made.
Speaker 2: And it was good. Man, it was like moist when
Speaker 2: it was done. I mean delicious, who wait the most
Speaker 2: turkey on our team.
Speaker 1: Anytime it comes to kind of any food eating contest,
Speaker 1: in my mind instantly goes to Marcus Kennan. I don't
Speaker 1: know why, guy's.
Speaker 2: A machine just I mean he can lift the most,
Speaker 2: so kind of transitions to being able to eat the most.
Speaker 1: What's your favorite memory of Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2: When we played the Detroit Lions, because we played them
Speaker 2: on Thanksgiving. I never really been home before or Thanksgiving
Speaker 2: in a long time since I was in high school,
Speaker 2: so to be able to play in Detroit. We got
Speaker 2: the win that week, we were Yes, we did. We
Speaker 2: had the throwback the red uniforms on that was That
Speaker 2: was one of the coolest games out there. Because Ford
Speaker 2: Field is one of the greatest, you know, atmospheres in
Speaker 2: all of football.
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, it's an old atmosphere in
Speaker 1: the old Factory, the old Ford Factory fields.
Speaker 2: Like down into the ground just feels like a football atmosphere.
Speaker 2: Like the new stadiums, the new domes, they're too futuristic,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It feels like it's it's
Speaker 2: built for entertainment, not for football. So Ford Field is
Speaker 2: still one of those domes that has that field. So
Speaker 2: I remember that game we beat him. There's a couple
Speaker 2: of fights on the field. I got in a fighter too,
Speaker 2: one of those dbs that are rushing on field goal.
Speaker 2: So he was rushing on field goal talking garbage. So
Speaker 2: you know, I'm the wingman. He's supposed to go like
Speaker 2: this and then that and try to take two guys.
Speaker 2: I literally just ran full speed at the dB and
Speaker 2: tried decking him on field goal.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I did that home and then it started a fight,
Speaker 2: and then Matt Light came over. He was pushing everyone around.
Speaker 1: He loved that action and I Light.
Speaker 2: But what I loved about Thanksgiving though, after that game
Speaker 2: was I hopped in the car with my mom because
Speaker 2: she was at the game, and we drove back home
Speaker 2: to Buffalo that night. So I got to spend Thanksgiving
Speaker 2: night with my family for the first time and quite
Speaker 2: some time, which was a privilege.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: It felt good to do that. So I won a game,
Speaker 2: an NFL game in Detroit my rookie season, and then
Speaker 2: went home, had Thanksgiving dinner with my family, and then
Speaker 2: I went out to the bar, you know, Amherst al House,
Speaker 2: and I got to see everyone from my childhood, growing
Speaker 2: up from high school. And that's kind of the definition.
Speaker 1: Of what Thanksgiving should be. Man, it's hell.
Speaker 2: Yeah, bringing the old timers back. It's about bringing the
Speaker 2: old memories back and just enjoying them. Your family, your friends.
Speaker 2: You know, you don't forget where you come from when
Speaker 2: it comes to Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: No, that Wednesday night, like we we don't get to
Speaker 1: experience it, but that Wednesday night before Thanksgiving where you
Speaker 1: get to go to the local bar with all your
Speaker 1: friends and stuff. I've done it a couple of times
Speaker 1: when it was on IR. It's just a it's a
Speaker 1: it's a comfort feeling because it's the people you you
Speaker 1: remember growing up with and you get to go home
Speaker 1: to a great meal the next day and see all
Speaker 1: your family and enjoy the fighting, the love, the love
Speaker 1: that's there, the fighting that's there, enjoy the football. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just so, it's it's so what you remember as
Speaker 1: a kid, Like that's what kid kid life was.
Speaker 2: You know, that Wednesday night before Thanksgiving. They claim, I
Speaker 2: don't know. I think the Internet claims, or all the
Speaker 2: partiers claim it's the biggest party night of the year,
Speaker 2: Bigger than New Year's, bigger than any Saturday night out there.
Speaker 2: They say the Wednesday night before Thanksgiving is the biggest
Speaker 2: party night in America? Is that true, Jewels, I've never
Speaker 2: done it before. I've never been out on a Wednesday
Speaker 2: night before Thanksgiving because I always have practice early morning.
Speaker 2: That's also why I love Thanksgiving too. I'm very thankful
Speaker 2: for Thanksgiving because of this reason. You always got out
Speaker 2: early on a Thursday from football.
Speaker 1: The best, Yeah, the best. You would get in.
Speaker 2: You would have a quick meeting, one hour meeting, and
Speaker 2: then practice would start at like nine am at the
Speaker 2: beginning of the practice, and you go out there, you
Speaker 2: practice real quick.
Speaker 1: You happy practice. Everyone's happy.
Speaker 2: Everyone's happy because they know they're going home right after
Speaker 2: this practice like the old meeting year in high school.
Speaker 1: No meetings after, yes, that is correct.
Speaker 2: You get a quick lifting or something, burn as many
Speaker 2: calories as you possibly could, so then you can go
Speaker 2: home and go to that whatever Thanksgiving dinner and eat
Speaker 2: as much as possible, show everyone up. And that's what
Speaker 2: it was all about too. There was competitions on how
Speaker 2: much you could eat, kind of like stroked your ego.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was just what dudes do, man, It's
Speaker 2: just I can eat more than you. Yeah, no, I
Speaker 2: can eat more than you, buddy, And then then it
Speaker 2: turned it into a fight.
Speaker 1: But that's just a dude. And I remember, you know,
Speaker 1: when you didn't have like when you didn't have the
Speaker 1: relationships with like the big top dogs yet and you'd
Speaker 1: eat that the facility with all the guys that you
Speaker 1: know didn't have their families. There. There'd be a huge
Speaker 1: old like population of guys in the freaking sna Everyone wanted,
Speaker 1: like Rob said, wanted to get their calories, and so
Speaker 1: you could eat as much as you could. Guys would
Speaker 1: be sweating and working out, and then you'd see a
Speaker 1: group of guys that didn't have their families and they'd
Speaker 1: have their their Thanksgiving in that cafeteria with each other
Speaker 1: and bring stuff back to their family or whoever's at
Speaker 1: their house. That's what it was, your Thanksgiving. Your family
Speaker 1: was your football team. When you were in these kind
Speaker 1: of situations you're in college or you're pro or young
Speaker 1: pro guy that didn't have their families, you know, you
Speaker 1: got to have that family time with guys that you
Speaker 1: played with. That's kind of something I remember too. From things.
Speaker 2: What's one thing that you're thankful for? Jules just one thing.
Speaker 2: We're gonna be thankful throughout the whole episode. But what's
Speaker 2: one thing you're thankful for.
Speaker 1: I'm thankful that right right now in my in my life,
Speaker 1: a lot of most of my family's healthy. All my
Speaker 1: family's healthy. That's like my daughter, my parents, my brother,
Speaker 1: and my sister. There can't ask for anything better than that.
Speaker 2: That's not can't.
Speaker 1: That's so lucky.
Speaker 2: That's the bigess blessing right there. That's for sure. You
Speaker 2: think I'm saying, I'm just we kind of already on
Speaker 2: the subject. We're already talking about it. The turkeys, how
Speaker 2: they're roast and everything. I'm thankful for the food out there, man,
Speaker 2: and how lucky we are to be able to eat
Speaker 2: the nutritious and delicious food that we do eat on
Speaker 2: a daily basis. I mean, we get organic food, We
Speaker 2: get food that's medicine for our bodies that you know,
Speaker 2: builds up our motor We get food that deliver us
Speaker 2: our energy that we need to get, you know.
Speaker 1: To get throughout the day you go.
Speaker 2: We get the protein that we need to get at
Speaker 2: all times so we can build up brote our muscles
Speaker 2: after our strenuous workouts. So just food, man, because without food, man,
Speaker 2: life is tough.
Speaker 1: Man, you get.
Speaker 2: Angry, you know, fragile. I mean, food builds you up
Speaker 2: with strength and courage. So I'm thankful for food, ma, Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great that's a great one to be
Speaker 1: thankful for. There's a lot of people that don't have
Speaker 1: food in this world, exactly, you know, and we're blessed,
Speaker 1: we're you know, like you say, we get to have
Speaker 1: the organic shit and all the good stuff and who
Speaker 1: that feeds our soul. There's a lot of people that
Speaker 1: don't even have food in this world. Remember, you gotta
Speaker 1: be thankful for everything, everything you got.
Speaker 2: All right, Jules, Let's get on to our first Thanksgiving
Speaker 2: guy who has plenty of Thanksgiving ties through the NFL.
Speaker 1: Let's get on to Emmitt Smith.
Speaker 2: I'm at Smith running back Dallas Cowboys from Pensacola, Florida.
Speaker 2: Let's see what the synopsis of I'm at Smith says.
Speaker 1: The great AI, ladies and AI, we need ten minutes.
Speaker 2: I'm at Smith standing at five foot nine inches and
Speaker 2: weighing two hundred and twenty one pounds.
Speaker 1: That's a big.
Speaker 2: Boy for five Gee, oh Molly, what are you?
Speaker 1: You're five to ten? What playing week, Man, I was big.
Speaker 1: I was thick. Yeah, he was even thicker, two set thick.
Speaker 2: He played running back in the NFL, primarily for the
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys and later for the Arizona Cardinals. Drafted seventeenth
Speaker 2: overall by the Cowboys in nineteen ninety from the University
Speaker 2: of Florida, Smith quickly established himself as a durable, high
Speaker 2: caliber player, known for his resilience and agility on the field.
Speaker 2: He retired as the NFL's all time leading rusher with
Speaker 2: eighteen three hundred and fifty five rushing yards, one hundred
Speaker 2: sixty four touchdowns, and earning three Super Bowl rings, all
Speaker 2: with the Dallas Cowboys, an MVP Award, and an induction
Speaker 2: into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: Was he first ballot? First ballot? Was? He was? First battle?
Speaker 1: For sure? He was?
Speaker 2: And here's a quick fun fact, how am It's pregame
Speaker 2: ritual included eating two packs of peanuts m and m's,
Speaker 2: making him one of the most efficient candy fueled athletes ever. Man, Now,
Speaker 2: that might be the most impressive thing about his career.
Speaker 2: And I wonder if he ate those peanut m and
Speaker 2: ms on Thanksgiving Day after Thanksgiving dinner or if he
Speaker 2: indulge into some like pumpkin pie instead, or some apple
Speaker 2: pie with some ice cream and webbed cream with a
Speaker 2: cherry on top. Or did he love those peanut m
Speaker 2: and ms that much that he wanted sacrifice even on Thanksgiving?
Speaker 1: What do you think? I think it was Probably it
Speaker 1: became a superstition thing early on. I mean running backs
Speaker 1: in their candy you got marshawn with Skittles, you got
Speaker 1: em and smooth with peanut m and ms. I mean,
Speaker 1: it is what it is. These guys are sometimes like
Speaker 1: most of the time, the running backs specimen that just
Speaker 1: needs fuel and they could eat anything they want because
Speaker 1: they running and getting blown up all day and they're
Speaker 1: touching the lot. What's the first thing that comes to
Speaker 1: your mind when you think of Emmitt Smith, one of.
Speaker 2: The greatest running backs of all time, exemplified what being
Speaker 2: a star really meant, especially being on the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 2: like he was that star symbol, you know when he
Speaker 2: was playing with Dallas.
Speaker 1: Yes, that is that is true.
Speaker 2: Jarry Jones did say that, but he really did exemplify
Speaker 2: it that much. He exemplified what being a running back
Speaker 2: truly meant. They truly ran the ball and ran it
Speaker 2: with you know, conviction, with resilience. And also he's like
Speaker 2: one of the first guys to truly start that era
Speaker 2: of everyone wanting to be a running back growing up.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, no one really wants to be running
Speaker 2: back anymore. It's it's twenty twenties and it's all about
Speaker 2: being a wide receiver, quarterback, tight end.
Speaker 1: It back in the day when it was Emmitt Smith,
Speaker 1: everyone wanted to want to be running.
Speaker 2: Back, everyone myself, and I knew I wasn't a running back.
Speaker 1: I mean, Emma Smith is huge. When I think of
Speaker 1: m SM, I just think, I think of the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: and I didn't like them. I didn't like them. Well,
Speaker 1: you were a sodiumn good. I was a forty ninety
Speaker 1: nine Ers fan, okay, and this was prime in like
Speaker 1: when I was watching football in the nineties and they
Speaker 1: were just so good. Him, the triplets, Him, Aikman and
Speaker 1: Michael Irvin, and it just seemed like that often he
Speaker 1: would low you to sleep behind that offensive line. He'd
Speaker 1: get lost behind the line, and I just hated him
Speaker 1: because he'd always beat us in Candlestick. It didn't matter.
Speaker 1: Cowboys were always beating us. Except for ninety five peanut
Speaker 1: epan ms. Did you have any superstitions before games or
Speaker 1: what did you What was your pregame food? I had
Speaker 1: a pregame ritual. I don't remember you just eating Hella pasta.
Speaker 2: I did eat HeLa pasta. But there was also the
Speaker 2: peanut butter and jelly I made with my mom's jelly.
Speaker 1: That was always a routine.
Speaker 2: If I had to do it every single Sunday to
Speaker 2: get me prepared and get me you know mentally right
Speaker 2: that I was on the right track and kept the
Speaker 2: tradition going of always having a PPMJ with my mom's
Speaker 2: homemade jelly and and on top of it a chocolate milk.
Speaker 1: Man, I love chocolate milk to this day.
Speaker 2: And I just felt like, you know, getting that protein
Speaker 2: in my system and the carbs.
Speaker 1: What better way to make.
Speaker 2: The tradition sustainable With my mom's homemade jolly, I'm telling you,
Speaker 2: the best jelly in the game.
Speaker 1: Do you hear that? Going around uncrustables in the NFL,
Speaker 1: there's like seven thousand. I heard PMT and the boys
Speaker 1: talking about it. It's crazy because peanut butter and jelly's
Speaker 1: always been like the athlete snack, Like you need a
Speaker 1: little quick calorie burned down. You need some calories, a
Speaker 1: cup of protein, some sugar, some bread, a little fuel
Speaker 1: right before you get a PBNJ. Throw a little honey
Speaker 1: on there for a little little NOAs a little extra sugar.
Speaker 1: That's what I would do as a kid. What jumps
Speaker 1: out when you watch Emmitt Smith's tape.
Speaker 2: I mean he was a solid receiving back as well
Speaker 2: as being a great runner. I mean he has a
Speaker 2: strong upper body. You've seen defensive linemen bounce off of him. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like he can go into a hall and it looks
Speaker 2: like he's surrounded by five players and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: he just has that killer stutter step with the backstep
Speaker 2: propeller and then he's out of that freaking like pie
Speaker 2: of dudes and he's running up to the outside now.
Speaker 2: And then he's kind of like a rabbit out there,
Speaker 2: like all these dogs are chasing this rabbit and no,
Speaker 2: none of these dogs can get the rabbit. The rabbits
Speaker 2: just playing games like silly rabbit. He's just you know,
Speaker 2: eating the care while he's running around everybody. But that's
Speaker 2: what made him so special too, man like know what
Speaker 2: could get to him and that that upper body strength,
Speaker 2: along with his ability and his footwork, just his versat
Speaker 2: utility is what truly made him that special and so
Speaker 2: hard to take down.
Speaker 1: What do you say, who do you who'd you hate
Speaker 1: going against? What kind of defensive ends? Well? Shorter shorter
Speaker 1: stocking is Emmitt Smith. He's a bowling ball. He's just
Speaker 1: got built in pad level man, almost, that is what
Speaker 1: it is. You would watch him get behind the offensive line.
Speaker 1: It seemed like their offensive line was fucking gigantic, and
Speaker 1: like he would sit there and be patient and then
Speaker 1: he'd have the quickness to jump cut and then hit
Speaker 1: the fucking hole, make someone missing the second level. He
Speaker 1: always had long runs and that's what like I always
Speaker 1: think of Emmitt Smith, just little paytiot runner, pay shiot runner,
Speaker 1: played behind his pads, low, see the hole, hit it
Speaker 1: and go, and like man did he he did it
Speaker 1: better than a lot of people. He was the best
Speaker 1: running back when he retired. He had all the numbers.
Speaker 1: I remember that. What did you think of it when
Speaker 1: he went to Arizona?
Speaker 2: You know, I don't really remember too much when he
Speaker 2: went to Arizona because he exemplified being a cowboy, you know,
Speaker 2: so much. He has insane records, that's for sure. He
Speaker 2: has the most career rushing gyards with over eighteen thousand
Speaker 2: yards rushing. He has the most career rushing touchdowns at
Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty four. Was that beat now he
Speaker 2: did at that time? Is that beat onred touchdowns? There's
Speaker 2: players that have more than one hundred and sixty four
Speaker 2: career touchdowns, but not rushing touchdowns. And he has the
Speaker 2: most the most career rushing attempts as well, with over
Speaker 2: forty four hundred two.
Speaker 1: Man, that's what's almost even more impressive, because what's the
Speaker 1: number right now that everyone talks about. Running back has
Speaker 1: about four hundred carries and then they get hurt. That's
Speaker 1: ten four hundred carries thirty six on touching the ball
Speaker 1: forty four hundred times. That's insane. You know, he didn't
Speaker 1: have like the wow speed, he didn't have the wow
Speaker 1: like stiff arm, but he was always just always productive.
Speaker 2: He had the wow lateral cuts he had.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but when you think of lateral cuts in this generation,
Speaker 1: who do you think of one of the guys that
Speaker 1: we'll be talking about a little later. Oh who wha
Speaker 1: we'll bleep that, we'll bleep that well, bleep it. How
Speaker 1: about the Emmett Smith game, Oh.
Speaker 2: Man, when he you know, popped out his shoulder and
Speaker 2: his shoulder going while he went in the locker room
Speaker 2: for like what a minute or so, went to the
Speaker 2: sidelines wherever he went. He just came back out and
Speaker 2: played rest of the game and had like what fifteen
Speaker 2: plus carries.
Speaker 1: Against the Giants. Do you ever remember playing someone banged
Speaker 1: up and having a ball out like that? Like I
Speaker 1: was banged up? Yeah, you were banged up. I mean
Speaker 1: I never had.
Speaker 2: It to the level of I'm at Smith where he
Speaker 2: could barely even move his shoulder and every time he
Speaker 2: foul he was practically screaming on the ground. But he
Speaker 2: just kept going going and telling himself that he's not
Speaker 2: in pain. That's a football player right there.
Speaker 1: Man, shut up. I don't think so. I think he
Speaker 1: definitely got light of kin right up in the shoulder.
Speaker 1: He put that needle right direct injected, right. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but if you watch the game, you could tell, Man,
Speaker 1: he's in pain. Yeah, you're little something. I've done it.
Speaker 1: I've shot up that shoulder a thousand times.
Speaker 2: But you can still feel it. But it just takes
Speaker 2: the edge.
Speaker 1: Off you know, it's kind of numb, but then like
Speaker 1: you'll feel cracky and stuff. You're like, look the fuck.
Speaker 2: I mean, I can recall, you know, the AFC Championship game.
Speaker 2: It was not like I'm at Smith's story, but I
Speaker 2: went up to see him. It was versus Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 2: It was my second year in the league. I was
Speaker 2: having that wonderful year and I caught the ball on
Speaker 2: the Bernard Pollard. It was kind of a hip draft tackle,
Speaker 2: and I swear like ninety percent of the time on
Speaker 2: hip drop tackles, the player does get injured. That's getting tackled.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're just not properly made to fall down
Speaker 2: that way with someone falling on top of you. If
Speaker 2: you're falling backwards and someone's on top of you, no problem.
Speaker 2: But your body is not made for someone to fall
Speaker 2: on top of you when you're landing on your stomach
Speaker 2: or on your chest.
Speaker 1: And that's what happened.
Speaker 2: Got tackled, he landed on my ankle twisted and I
Speaker 2: had a you know, super high ankle sprain, went in
Speaker 2: the locker room, got it taped up, and literally I
Speaker 2: had the same mindset, Hey, I'm not in pain. This
Speaker 2: is the AFC Championship game. I may never be back.
Speaker 2: If we win this game, We're going to the freaking
Speaker 2: super Bowl. That's what you know, you're just dreamed of
Speaker 2: as a kid. So I had to go back, and
Speaker 2: I'm telling you that shit, yeah I took. It wasn't
Speaker 2: lyto kine. It was the tour it all shot, you know,
Speaker 2: right there on the spot. I don't think it really
Speaker 2: did much because you know, a high ankle sprain and
Speaker 2: you're in a lot of pain. I mean I went
Speaker 2: out there. I was limping a little bit. No more catches.
Speaker 2: What some serious blocks to get to the super Bowl?
Speaker 2: That yeah, what was the craziest injury you ever played
Speaker 2: through in a game?
Speaker 1: That crazy snowstorm game.
Speaker 2: First Tennessee when you guys won fifty nine to nothing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was still at the University of Arizona.
Speaker 1: I was in the fourth quarter. I got to play
Speaker 1: a bunch being a slapstick slaptick back. Then cut a
Speaker 1: ball and Van der Bosch fell on me and I
Speaker 1: broke my arm. I snapped my forearm and I look
Speaker 1: over to Ivan Fears the sideline. I go, Coach, I
Speaker 1: think I'm hurt. He goes, stay in we ain't gotta
Speaker 1: know whatever was out a football coach. I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: all right, and then freaking Hoyer through me the ball
Speaker 1: Like the next drive, I caught a ball with a
Speaker 1: broken arm. It was fucking crazy. And I come off
Speaker 1: and I'm like, chatty, O, I think I broke my arm.
Speaker 1: Dude Like he's like, oh well, I think everyone's kind
Speaker 1: out right now. I'm like, yeah, all right, whatever, let's
Speaker 1: do it. And so play with the broken.
Speaker 2: All that sucks, bro, I mean, it's bad. And then
Speaker 2: it's bad asked to play through an injury.
Speaker 1: But it does suck.
Speaker 2: Matter, it sucks. It's part of the game.
Speaker 1: The guys, the greatest players like Emmett Smith for this situation.
Speaker 1: When they're banged up, they find a way to be
Speaker 1: productive and they adjust their game to the deficiencies with
Speaker 1: their injury, and they still go out and ball. That's
Speaker 1: what makes a great player. Tommy Smith was a fucking
Speaker 1: guy that did that with the shoulder game. What about him?
Speaker 2: Most all time rushing yards on Thanksgiving Day as well,
Speaker 2: with over eleven hundred.
Speaker 1: Yards I mean Turkey Day. He owned the most.
Speaker 2: Rushing tds on Thanksgiving thirteen. Jesus His best Thanksgiving was
Speaker 2: about twenty nine carries, one hundred and fifty five yards
Speaker 2: and three touchdowns in nineteen ninety six. He's a three
Speaker 2: time Super Bowl champion with the Dallas Cowboys, and he
Speaker 2: helps secure back to back Super Bowls and they were
Speaker 2: both blowout wins versus my hometown, the Buffalo Bills. People
Speaker 2: still talk about those losses. How the Bills went to
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. I think four years in a row?
Speaker 2: Was it three or four years earrow? I was only
Speaker 2: one years old, two years old, three years old, four
Speaker 2: years old, But it still hurts the city of Buffalo.
Speaker 1: EMMITTT.
Speaker 2: Smith put that big of a pounding on them, and
Speaker 2: a huge shout out to Jimmy Johnson, Michael Irvin on
Speaker 2: the team. I mean, what a solid team they had.
Speaker 2: Man and Troy Aikman. Was he the quarterback?
Speaker 1: Troy Tripletz. That's the team right there, the Triplets. Now
Speaker 1: what do you think of the Lions and the Cowboys
Speaker 1: always playing on Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2: I mean, I love how those teams are the tradition.
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously the Cowboys, they are America's team. They
Speaker 2: draw the most represents the Thanksgiving you need the Dallas
Speaker 2: Cowboys on TV.
Speaker 1: The Detroit Lions.
Speaker 2: They became so bad at one point that it.
Speaker 1: Really it was like their Super Bowl. Yeah, yeah, it
Speaker 1: was their super Bowl because that was like their only
Speaker 1: primetime game for a long time.
Speaker 2: At one time, they were like ohing fifteen all sixteen
Speaker 2: the league. They were winning two three games. At the time,
Speaker 2: it rarely wasn't important that Detroit was playing on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2: It might have been important for the city, but it
Speaker 2: was important to all of America that the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 2: were playing on Thanksgiving. But now it's just as important
Speaker 2: when the Detroit Lions. Everyone loves Detroit right now, they're
Speaker 2: kind of becoming like America's up and coming team.
Speaker 1: America and coming of the middle Upper Midwest they called
Speaker 1: it Midwest, they call it the Midwest, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm always bordering the Canada.
Speaker 1: Actually always Canada's team. Actually, well technically Detroit is the
Speaker 1: only city where Canada is south of it. EMITTT. Smith always.
Speaker 1: He was also known for his his game day fits. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: pullovers right, yeah, no, that's that's what he's endorsed by
Speaker 1: now pullover diapers.
Speaker 2: Oh it depends right, yeah, Because he's always dependable in
Speaker 2: Dallas He's always dependable. Representing depends adult diapers because you
Speaker 2: can depend on EMMITTT. Smith to take a dump on
Speaker 2: the other opposing team defense. Yes, on the defense.
Speaker 1: It's pretty crazy. He did that whole polka doont like
Speaker 1: overall outfit back in the day when guys would always
Speaker 1: wear suit and tie. Like to think about it now,
Speaker 1: like that's how everyone dresses now. Everyone dresses like it's
Speaker 1: a fucking runway before the game to get your shot,
Speaker 1: to show that you're cool, your style, this, you're that.
Speaker 1: And Emmitt Smith was like a pie near in that.
Speaker 1: Look at that fucking alfie. That's kind of fire. Would
Speaker 1: you wear that, rob if it was Halloween? What was
Speaker 1: your game day? What was your game day outfit? My
Speaker 1: game day outfit? Man? You know me?
Speaker 2: I was a shortened T shirt guy. Every single week
Speaker 2: that was all free T shirt, free shorts, free sandals.
Speaker 2: I was showing up every game like that guy.
Speaker 1: Wore Jordan sandals nine years that I've known him, the
Speaker 1: same pair in the locker room. That's what he roll
Speaker 1: up in just like this. He look exactly how he
Speaker 1: was dressed right now, just like this, because this is
Speaker 1: all free stuff. And he'd roll up the shirt he
Speaker 1: roll up in the game that you'd see him. You
Speaker 1: see him in the cafeteria, grab some food and grab
Speaker 1: a couple of pev and JS, and I'm good, and
Speaker 1: then he's good, just thankful for it. Just the basics, Jules,
Speaker 1: I don't think I've I think I've come across Emmett
Speaker 1: at a like a banquet or a function, or a
Speaker 1: charity event or some event Emmys. Smitch just looks like
Speaker 1: happy and cool and rich anytime I see him. He's
Speaker 1: got a great smile, he has an age. He looks
Speaker 1: exactly the same as he did in high school. I
Speaker 1: don't think he's got the hair anymore, but salt and
Speaker 1: pepper beer. I mean, my guy could cut a rug too.
Speaker 1: Emmitt Smith actually won Dancing with the Stars. Does Dola
Speaker 1: win Dancing with Stars? Like Emma Smith? Right now, this
Speaker 1: is after Dancing with the Stars. Did Danny win? Wait,
Speaker 1: this is after we don't know if Danny went, But
Speaker 1: right now we can imaginary think that like if he
Speaker 1: if he wins, and you say he won right now,
Speaker 1: then we'll look like genius says, But if we say
Speaker 1: he didn't he won and he didn't win, then we'll
Speaker 1: look like morons.
Speaker 2: I think Danny is gonna win Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 1: You think Danny?
Speaker 3: No, he won, Dan, Danny won Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 3: Fucking let's go Dola shout out time. What kind of
Speaker 3: dude is Emmitt Smith? I would say on three one
Speaker 3: two three, DoD.
Speaker 2: I mean he was relentless man. I mean like dogs,
Speaker 2: dogs get hurt and they don't care one bit. They
Speaker 2: just keep on going. Imm Smith just kept going.
Speaker 1: He's a crazy stud. Because you think about it, when
Speaker 1: you think of that generation, like when I think a dog,
Speaker 1: I think of someone who like he won every year.
Speaker 1: He didn't have to have to be a dog like
Speaker 1: he was the pedigree. Everyone knew. He was the guy,
Speaker 1: one of the faces of the Dallas Cowboys, which was
Speaker 1: America's team. He had the pedigree. He went on Dancing
Speaker 1: with the Stars. He won Dancing with the Stars. You're
Speaker 1: telling me, dogs go out there and win some Dancing
Speaker 1: with the Stars.
Speaker 2: No, dogs don't go out and win Dancing with the Stars, Studs.
Speaker 2: Do dogs go out there and Dancing with the Stars
Speaker 2: and lose the first round.
Speaker 1: Because they're just so happy to be there and they're just.
Speaker 2: Roughing around and they can't figure out what to do
Speaker 2: because they do it. They do it at one hundred
Speaker 2: miles per hour and going out there and just being
Speaker 2: so careless and running over everything in.
Speaker 1: Sight, motivated to win, but yet know how to do it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So then I just talked to you. I talked to
Speaker 1: you and talked.
Speaker 2: Me into it. To us, he's a stud.
Speaker 1: Stud stamp it. We'll be right back after this quick break,
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 2: Next, who we got Jules. We've already talked about him
Speaker 2: a little bit. One of the greatest running backs of
Speaker 2: all time, plaid for the other team that played on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: Not America's team, A team, America's team. Now it could
Speaker 1: be could could be America's team now, yes, up.
Speaker 2: Near Canada, could be Canada's team. It could be America's
Speaker 2: Upper States team. Yeah, Midwest, those type of states.
Speaker 1: So let's get on Barry South.
Speaker 2: Let's go, let's go, let's see, let's see what AI
Speaker 2: has to say about him. Barry Sanders, at five foot
Speaker 2: eight and weighing two hundred pounds, played as running back
Speaker 2: for the Detroit Lions. Haling from Wishita, Kansas, Sanders burst
Speaker 2: onto the scene at Oklahoma State University, where he set
Speaker 2: multiple records and won the Heisman Trophy in nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 2: Drafted third overall nineteen eighty nine, he became known for
Speaker 2: his electrifying agility, elusive footwork, and explosive speed, making him
Speaker 2: one of the most thrilling players in the league's history.
Speaker 2: He surprised many by retiring at the age of thirty
Speaker 2: one in nineteen ninety nine. Is it that big of
Speaker 2: a surprise. I mean, I retired when I was twenty
Speaker 2: nine years old, like he was in his thirties, But
Speaker 2: he must have been that good still.
Speaker 1: It surprised everybody. I meant to put in perspective. He
Speaker 1: won Offensive Player of the Year in ninety seven, retired two
Speaker 1: years later.
Speaker 2: Over his career, he amassed fifteen two hundred and sixty
Speaker 2: nine rushing yards in ninety nine touchdowns, earning ten Pro
Speaker 2: Bowl selections, the nineteen ninety seven MVP Award in a
Speaker 2: place in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Jesus, what
Speaker 2: is the first thing that you think of when you
Speaker 2: hear the name Barry Sanders?
Speaker 1: Jewels my childhood, if you made a crazy like cutback play,
Speaker 1: or you made someone juked out, you juked someone out
Speaker 1: of their jock or something, and it was just like
Speaker 1: you were doing a Barry play. Like that's Barry Sanders
Speaker 1: made Detroit relevant and like only went to the playoffs
Speaker 1: like twice or three times in his career. Instantly think
Speaker 1: of the plays where like he has four guys draping
Speaker 1: on him and then he jukes like two guys and
Speaker 1: then a guy thinks he's down and thinks he plays
Speaker 1: over and he's still running on the other side. Barry
Speaker 1: Sanders was so electric. I think Barry Sanders would not
Speaker 1: like he would be even crazier in this generation. That's
Speaker 1: how good he was. What do you think of when
Speaker 1: you think about Barry Sanders.
Speaker 2: I think about Ford Ford vehicles, I really do, man,
Speaker 2: and he was all the vehicles.
Speaker 1: Combined in one. I mean, that's actually not bad with Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was.
Speaker 2: He wasn't the size of an expedition, but he played
Speaker 2: like he was an expedition. He was like an explorer
Speaker 2: that had like a V eight engine from one of
Speaker 2: the cars that they you know, from the Ford Mustang. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he had like monster truck tires, like the big
Speaker 2: wheels like from a Ford raptor F one fifty.
Speaker 1: So this guy basically could do it.
Speaker 2: All out of the backfield. I mean he could, you know,
Speaker 2: catch a ball. Obviously he could run. He was so elosive.
Speaker 2: He made guys fall face first. You know, it's so
Speaker 2: imagine that being a defender. You're a professional defender as
Speaker 2: a linebacker, a safety, and you go to tackle somebody
Speaker 2: and you totally miss and fall directly on your face.
Speaker 2: That's what Barry Sanders did to these folks.
Speaker 1: You know, I just want to I want you to
Speaker 1: describe Barry Sanders as like a Ford model. Make color
Speaker 1: INTI your exterior INJA like Barry Sanders. What color car
Speaker 1: is he?
Speaker 2: Barry Sanders would be the grayish color white gray.
Speaker 1: Take a bullet like a silver bullet.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I like that, Yeah, silver bullet. But like
Speaker 2: love by everyone. You know, Gray's loved by everyone, it
Speaker 2: really is. You can't hate on gray.
Speaker 1: What about what's the interior?
Speaker 2: The interior have to be something flashy?
Speaker 1: Why flashy?
Speaker 2: Because he was flashy on the field.
Speaker 1: So like a red leather, No, it would be it.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't be red, it'd be it would be blue, a
Speaker 2: blue ray lions color blue leather.
Speaker 1: Gray and blue. Do we got a sunroof? No sunroof?
Speaker 2: It's a coop because we're dirty. We get down the business.
Speaker 2: We don't need a sunroof.
Speaker 1: V V eight is like a shell dog.
Speaker 2: And then we got Ford Raptor tires, but we also
Speaker 2: have they're also on like twenty two inch rims, so
Speaker 2: we can be you know, run over a folk when
Speaker 2: we need to, and we can just but still.
Speaker 1: Get out of this when we needed to.
Speaker 2: Any racetripes, just just one, just one solid one that
Speaker 2: goes away.
Speaker 1: What color is that race stripe? That's black? What's the
Speaker 1: licensed plate number? Twenty twenty?
Speaker 2: Because he has twenty twenty vision as well.
Speaker 1: Out in the football, this joker did have great fucking vision.
Speaker 1: He probably had mostly vision in the history of the game.
Speaker 1: I want to see this car. We're gonna have to
Speaker 1: make this car up buying prints lying.
Speaker 2: Prince Oklahoma, Oklahoma state mascot.
Speaker 1: What is that the guns? Yeah, cowboys, cowboy guns.
Speaker 2: Carr's badass and I'm not even a car guy, and
Speaker 2: I just I just built my my first car ever.
Speaker 2: He spected three hundred and twenty thousand dollars right there?
Speaker 1: Could that car win the Daytona five hundred percent? Winning
Speaker 1: the Daytona five hundred a year and a year out
Speaker 1: every time, every single time he didn't win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: What if he's just the fastest car on the on
Speaker 1: the block, but someone then they go, you got me here,
Speaker 1: Then they smith car and they win the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: He never won a super Bowl.
Speaker 2: So oh man, you're right, he's not winning the Daytona
Speaker 2: five hundred. He's getting suckingd third place every single time.
Speaker 1: Or he's probably crashing like he's winning the race by
Speaker 1: like three laps.
Speaker 2: He had a bad he had. It wasn't him that
Speaker 2: lost the race. He had a bad you know when
Speaker 2: you go in for the pit stop. Yeah, he had
Speaker 2: a bad crew around him. Every time it took like
Speaker 2: how long does it take in a pit stop usually
Speaker 2: in Nascar, I.
Speaker 1: Mean we're talking standard, probably thirty eight seconds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well it took his team like a minute
Speaker 2: twenty every single time minute. He just had a back
Speaker 2: you know, bag pit crew, bad pit crew, bad team
Speaker 2: around him.
Speaker 1: His measurables. This guy ran four to three or forty
Speaker 1: four inch vert so you know, Barry Sanders is dunking
Speaker 1: at five eight and twenty seven reps at the bench.
Speaker 1: The one of the funniest quotes that I always think
Speaker 1: of when I think of Barry Sanders. I watched the
Speaker 1: documentary with his dad. They asked him, mister Sanders, who
Speaker 1: do you think the best running backs of all time?
Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, Jim Brown, myself, and then my son.
Speaker 1: He would never give his son the two spot behind it.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. I love his dad was so tough on him.
Speaker 1: I love it. So I knew about that.
Speaker 2: Actually, you told me that before we were going to
Speaker 2: talk about Barry Sanders.
Speaker 1: So what did I do? I went and called your dad.
Speaker 2: What he said, Frank Addleman, Frank Nuts the nuthouse, Papa
Speaker 2: Frank himself. He ranked his you know, top three slot
Speaker 2: receivers number one. That's why I love Frank. And this
Speaker 2: is when you know he truly loves you, Jewels, because
Speaker 2: you're number one, and I don't argue with that. I
Speaker 2: don't argue with that. You know, Frank's on top of
Speaker 2: his game. Number two Wes Welker and number three Dola.
Speaker 2: I don't know where he got Dola from at number three,
Speaker 2: but you got admit, he's loyal. He's loyal to his
Speaker 2: son and he's loyal to his son's friends. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: He also ranked his top his top three tight ends.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he ranked the top tight ends. He goes number three,
Speaker 1: Mark Bavaro. Mm hmm monster.
Speaker 2: I would say Mike Bavarro from just stories I've heard
Speaker 2: from players that played against him that he was the
Speaker 2: strongest tight.
Speaker 1: End ever in history.
Speaker 2: I've heard that too, Yes, Like he would take defensive
Speaker 2: aasan linebackers and just lock him up right in the
Speaker 2: spot and not let them move.
Speaker 1: He was just that strong. His grip was through the roof,
Speaker 1: they said.
Speaker 2: And I'm talking like players that played against him or
Speaker 2: freaks of nature. And they said, Mike Bavaro would dominate
Speaker 2: every single time.
Speaker 1: So what if you guys grab each other? Who who
Speaker 1: Mike Bovaro would? I don't know. He's stronger than me, Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. And then number two on my
Speaker 1: dad's list was Kelsey and then one of course was
Speaker 1: Gronk and.
Speaker 2: I love you, Frank Nuts you got you got a
Speaker 2: wonderful dad, great dad.
Speaker 1: I like dal Nut House Papa, though edel Nut House Papa.
Speaker 1: I like it all right. What was what was Barry Sanders'
Speaker 1: best Turkey days? He was He had ten games on
Speaker 1: Turkey Day seven and three record winning record. Barry Sanders
Speaker 1: loved Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2: Sucking all time in Russian yards behind given behind.
Speaker 1: I'm at Smith, behind Emmitt Smith.
Speaker 2: His two hundred and ton carries on Thanksgiving Day for
Speaker 2: nine hundred and thirty one yards. He just couldn't break
Speaker 2: that thousand yard mark on Thanksgiving. That's tough.
Speaker 1: He should have came back just for that, right, yes, for.
Speaker 2: That, just to say he had over a thousand yards
Speaker 2: on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: We're talking about moments in his career, but him retiring
Speaker 1: at such a young age, and he was like, I
Speaker 1: think he was a season away from being the all
Speaker 1: time leader. At his retiring date, he was like, if
Speaker 1: he would have played that last season, he would have
Speaker 1: beat the record, and he just walked away. He didn't
Speaker 1: really care about the records. He just wanted to win.
Speaker 1: I think he got beat down from losing. You know that.
Speaker 1: He doesn't say that in any of his documentaries or all.
Speaker 1: You know, you watch his interviews, but I mean, if
Speaker 1: you if you go out for a long time and
Speaker 1: you're dominating and you you're losing every year, that's going
Speaker 1: to take a toll. It shows kind of player he was.
Speaker 1: You know, he loved football as a game, not for
Speaker 1: an individual statistics. I mean there's a these stories of
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones two three years later going to him and say, hey, man,
Speaker 1: you sure you don't want to come play for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys or something. I've heard that a couple of times too.
Speaker 2: As a player, you want to always tough it out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you never want to show that you're weak. The second
Speaker 2: you show that you're weak, you've kind of beat In
Speaker 2: the NFL, you got to always have that standard set,
Speaker 2: that bar set, that nothing's gonna take you down. And
Speaker 2: the second that you let that go and you let
Speaker 2: things take you down, you're not gonna be able to perform.
Speaker 2: You're gonna get out worked, you're gonna get ran over.
Speaker 2: The other guy's gonna beat the crap out of you.
Speaker 2: So that mindset always has to be there. And if
Speaker 2: you get beat down, even though you look like the
Speaker 2: best player on the field, it's gonna come back and
Speaker 2: haunt you in the end. I've been through that situation before.
Speaker 2: I bet you've been through it the end of your
Speaker 2: career as well, where you just kept taking beatings, injuries.
Speaker 2: You're trying to play through a knee, a forearm, whatever
Speaker 2: it is, and then finally you're like, man, I can't take.
Speaker 1: This no more.
Speaker 2: And I feel like that's kind of what happened to
Speaker 2: Barry Sanders. I mean, yeah, he was the greatest of
Speaker 2: all time, one of them. He looked unbelievable out there
Speaker 2: on the field, but he was always losing, always taking
Speaker 2: a beating. You just don't know what these NFL guys
Speaker 2: are going through at all times, you really don't.
Speaker 1: He still hasn't let anyone know why he retired, like
Speaker 1: he kind of has. I mean, he was fourteen hundred
Speaker 1: yards away from the old time rushing record that Emmitt
Speaker 1: Smith went to then beat three or four years later.
Speaker 1: A couple of years.
Speaker 2: Later, he did talk about it a little bit when
Speaker 2: he retired, that the passion wasn't there for him anymore.
Speaker 2: If you don't have that passion, which can attribute to
Speaker 2: just always getting beat down not winning, there's no reason
Speaker 2: to be out there on the football field. It's not
Speaker 2: good for the fans, it's not good for yourself, it's
Speaker 2: not good for the organization.
Speaker 1: He's just kind of basically.
Speaker 2: Said there was nothing left to really play for, and
Speaker 2: he didn't really see the Detroit Lions being a Super
Speaker 2: Bowl contender either. Yeah, and if they were, if the
Speaker 2: Lions were truly going to be a Super Bowl contender,
Speaker 2: I feel like that would have gave him the passion,
Speaker 2: the influence that he needed to go back out there
Speaker 2: and because that's all he truly doesn't have is a
Speaker 2: Super Bowl ring.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you remember when the passion left for you?
Speaker 2: I do. I mean I was beat down. It was
Speaker 2: my last year. I mean, we won the Super Bowl
Speaker 2: when I was on the New England Patriots, when we
Speaker 2: beat the Rams, and I went into the playoffs knowing
Speaker 2: that I was going to retire. Dude, I mean, this
Speaker 2: is the year. The pounding on my body, all the
Speaker 2: injuries were flaring up. I was running slow.
Speaker 1: Especially.
Speaker 2: The passion definitely decreases for the game of football when
Speaker 2: you start losing your skill set because it's not as
Speaker 2: fun anymore. When you can't just run by someone or
Speaker 2: just throw someone around. It's not fun when you're the
Speaker 2: one getting thrown around and the guys on you like
Speaker 2: white on rice when you're trying to run a route.
Speaker 2: So it was like that year. But I was just
Speaker 2: putting the team first and I knew, you know, I
Speaker 2: could come through in the times that I needed to
Speaker 2: come through for the team, and we ended up putting
Speaker 2: in to the Super Bowl, So it couldn't have worked
Speaker 2: out any better. But winning that Super Bowl, it was
Speaker 2: just kind of a relief that the game was over. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I got that passion back when I took a
Speaker 2: year off, and then it kind of started fading away again,
Speaker 2: you know, my second year in Tampa. You know, that's
Speaker 2: when I knew that it was probably, you know, time
Speaker 2: to hang out up again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that's that's kind of how my mine went
Speaker 1: down as well. When I was in practice and guys
Speaker 1: that I should be dominating were coming close to covering me.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, it's I have to work way
Speaker 1: too hard to and it hurts way too much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're you're not doing it if we weren't winning at
Speaker 1: that time, so I could. I you know, it's hard
Speaker 1: to be in pain while you're losing and have to
Speaker 1: go perform.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm thankful for all the good times when
Speaker 2: we're in our mid twenties, Jewels. Yeah, like when everything
Speaker 2: was just always feeling like looking like just always feeling good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're just activated from head to toe. Just your running
Speaker 2: form was just always on point. It was like it
Speaker 2: was easy. You're just felt like you're going through the motions,
Speaker 2: even though you were going full speed and running by people. Man,
Speaker 2: those were the days. Thankful for those days as a player.
Speaker 1: It's young, dumb and full of yes.
Speaker 2: Yes, the best, the best days for you.
Speaker 1: You wake up and you can sprint thirty hundred and
Speaker 1: without even warming up, without even warming up, He'll bop
Speaker 1: someone in the one on ones. Take it to team,
Speaker 1: come lay the wood on, forced down in the box. Safety.
Speaker 2: What about Barry Sanders in college too? Man, he was
Speaker 2: one of the best college football players to ever.
Speaker 1: He was fucking unreal.
Speaker 2: He won the Heisman most rushing yards in the season
Speaker 2: over twenty six hundred yards.
Speaker 1: I mean, and his dad hated Oklahoma State because he
Speaker 1: was an Oklahoma Suitors fan. I'm so infatuated with that story.
Speaker 2: That's that's why he'll never put his son in front
Speaker 2: of him running back in the end.
Speaker 1: I bet it's crazy, but I think that's what drove Barry.
Speaker 1: You know, he wanted his dad satisfaction, and maybe his
Speaker 1: dad knew that the dads always know us the.
Speaker 2: Best, the greatest, fine fuel and the the titious things.
Speaker 1: Man like the titious things. What's that word I'm looking for? Tedious?
Speaker 2: Titious, tedious, tedious. I like titious things, you know. I
Speaker 2: just like what I said. That's why that was on
Speaker 2: my and I like not gonna say the word, you know,
Speaker 2: the first part of it, only because tedious we're appropriate show,
Speaker 2: but tits titious is always on my mind for some reason. Titious, though,
Speaker 2: is what the word I was reading going for, tedious.
Speaker 2: So the greatest dude find you know that motivation. For example,
Speaker 2: say if you just said something that I didn't like
Speaker 2: in the locker room that day, and I would just
Speaker 2: go out in the field and I would be like
Speaker 2: a f this guy, Jules, I'm gonna make sure I'm
Speaker 2: open every single freaking play so he doesn't get a pass.
Speaker 1: So I can go back in the locker room and
Speaker 1: be like.
Speaker 2: Great, day to day you had, Jules, you had zero
Speaker 2: catches I attend just because you said something that was
Speaker 2: fed up to me in the morning. That That's what
Speaker 2: I'm talking about. Just finding those tedious moments makes people great.
Speaker 2: Just finding that motivation for absolutely no reason that shouldn't
Speaker 2: even be motivation, just so you can go out there
Speaker 2: and just drive yourself to another level. It's like coach
Speaker 2: saying something you three days ago in a meeting that
Speaker 2: you don't like, and you're gonna go out there and
Speaker 2: prove the him that he was wrong.
Speaker 1: Barry Barry Sanders was titious.
Speaker 2: Yes he was, hopefully we thank you was. I never
Speaker 2: met Barry before, never talked to him about this, but
Speaker 2: we're going. I mean, he was the greatest of all time.
Speaker 2: He had to find motivation somehow every single time.
Speaker 1: One of the great showdowns on Monday Night Football that
Speaker 1: I still remember was the Barry Verse emit game. We
Speaker 1: haven't done it on games and names. Need to do
Speaker 1: it on games and names. But it was Week four
Speaker 1: and the ninety four season Monday Night Football. Cowboys hosted
Speaker 1: the Lions and Detroit went up into Cowboy Land, Jerry
Speaker 1: World old Jerry World at that time, and won twenty
Speaker 1: seventeen in overtime. Emmett what a fucking duel. Listen to
Speaker 1: his stat lines. Between the two best running backs in
Speaker 1: the league in the primes of their career. Emmett smid
Speaker 1: twenty nine carries one hundred and forty three yards in
Speaker 1: a tug. Barry had to out duel him with forty
Speaker 1: carries one hundred and ninety four yards and one touchdown.
Speaker 1: Epic battle between these freaking running backs. That was like
Speaker 1: a playoff game intensity, the closest you can get the
Speaker 1: playoff intensity. And it was because it was Emmitt Smith
Speaker 1: versus fucking Barry Sanders. It was such a crazy match.
Speaker 1: You remember that game. They were really young though. I
Speaker 1: know I remember that game a little bit because I
Speaker 1: was a little bit older than me. This was in
Speaker 1: ninety four. This was my first year of football.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't remember. This was my I was five
Speaker 2: years old.
Speaker 1: I was eight years old.
Speaker 2: Like, what made the Detroit Lions like not good during
Speaker 2: that era? Because they had Barry Sanders? What made them
Speaker 2: not good? Bad?
Speaker 1: Offensive line? Bad? Like did they have more? What was it?
Speaker 2: What was the reason why they weren't good?
Speaker 1: Jeles You need a quarterback? No quarterback, no quarterback. And
Speaker 1: they went through a lot of coaches, I think, and
Speaker 1: they got through a lot of coaches. I don't know.
Speaker 1: He deserved better, He deserved I mean guys that deserved.
Speaker 1: I mean, thankful for Barry. Everyone's thankful for Barry Thanksgiving episode.
Speaker 1: Truly deserves better. So who's on the mount rushmore running
Speaker 1: back four four running backs top four of all time.
Speaker 2: O man, I mean, you gotta put those two in
Speaker 2: that category.
Speaker 1: Jim Brown's got to be in there. Jim Brown.
Speaker 2: Then I'm gonna go with Adrian Peterson as my fourth.
Speaker 1: What about Walter Payton? I know, but he's before your time,
Speaker 1: He is before my time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't really know too much about Walter Payon.
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch's Shawn Lynch. I mean, but is he great
Speaker 1: all the time? No, he's not. He's not. He's not
Speaker 1: on Mount Rushmore now Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 2: He's one of the greatest known running backs of all time.
Speaker 2: I want to rebut personalities of all time too.
Speaker 1: Do you remember Bill always talking about Jim Brown and
Speaker 1: how like dominant he was. If we'd be talking, he'd
Speaker 1: hear us talking to the locker room about sunning. He goes,
Speaker 1: do you guys see Jim Brown fucking dominant? Like he
Speaker 1: was just a man child. All old timers love Jim
Speaker 1: Brown like that's their guy. We didn't get to watch
Speaker 1: him in the flesh, so like he don't get to
Speaker 1: appreciate him. But you gotta put him on there. I
Speaker 1: think he's on there. Tomlinson Lt. Lt.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard to do a mount Rushmore of
Speaker 2: running back Marshall Falk. Oh Man Rushow Falk was so good.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go this. My mount Rushmore would go Jim Brown,
Speaker 1: Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, Marshall Falk, Marshall Falk being the
Speaker 1: fourth because he's like that, the tweener, the new generation
Speaker 1: running back where this guy could catch a hundred fucking
Speaker 1: balls and rush for a thousand yards in the same season,
Speaker 1: which I think he did. There was Bo Jackson, Thurman
Speaker 1: he didn't, he didn't have enough. Thrman Thomas was a monster.
Speaker 1: Earl Campbell, Eric Dickerson, Slate would be mad at us
Speaker 1: slad Gals. He didn't. He didn't have a long career though.
Speaker 2: There's so many, man, that's tough to do a mount Rushmore.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Barry was behind Thurman Thomas at Oklahoma State.
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State had some running backs. How about that running
Speaker 1: back room in college? Derman Thomas, Barry Sanders. They went
Speaker 1: natty that year. Are you not in the National Championship
Speaker 1: with those two guys. The saddest stat of Barry's career, though,
Speaker 1: is that he only played in six playoff games.
Speaker 2: It is sad, that's crazy. Everyone loves Barry Sanders. Everyone
Speaker 2: wanted to see his career just keep on going ten minutes.
Speaker 2: What kind of dude is Barry Sanders?
Speaker 1: M freak? No one is ever like when you watch
Speaker 1: him move, No one's ever moved like Barry Sanders.
Speaker 2: Just so elusive. And it's like a slinky out there.
Speaker 2: He's like a little slinky down the stairs, just boom boom,
Speaker 2: and the slinky is just turning and flipping which way.
Speaker 1: And direction, always always on, that.
Speaker 2: Always lands right back on on, you know, in position
Speaker 2: right on his feet at the bottom of the stairs.
Speaker 2: That's Barry Sanders for you. I mean, that's some freaky
Speaker 2: ability right there.
Speaker 1: I bet you he was a crazy positive dude. The
Speaker 1: dude dude too in the locker room. I bet you
Speaker 1: was super cool. He's probably like sweet feet, super quiet,
Speaker 1: James White, quiet, just professional. But he's also fucking dog
Speaker 1: where he didn't have I mean, he didn't have an
Speaker 1: offensive line for like half his career and he still
Speaker 1: had the numbers he had on three you sed eight
Speaker 1: years one two three. Dog. He's a freak man. Gotta
Speaker 1: go freak, You gotta go freak.
Speaker 2: His physical ability of just being able to bend the
Speaker 2: way he bends and just a vision that he has
Speaker 2: one on one instinct. He was not getting tackled. People
Speaker 2: were falling headfirst into the ground. Like I said earlier,
Speaker 2: you just never seen it. He was making people look
Speaker 2: silly like they didn't belong out there. It was like
Speaker 2: pop one. Or when the guy's just that much better
Speaker 2: than everyone else and just running around the field and
Speaker 2: they could be all twelve eleven guys on the field
Speaker 2: in front of him and he can make all eleven miss.
Speaker 2: That's freaky instincts right there.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But when you see Barry Sanders in clothes or
Speaker 1: do you look at him like me and that guy's
Speaker 1: a freak. No you don't.
Speaker 2: But we're categorizing freak in that way only then, is
Speaker 2: if how you see someone he is a one of one,
Speaker 2: exactly one of one's a freaks. He was just a
Speaker 2: freak out at a lower level of physical stature.
Speaker 1: He reminds me of a little race cars on the
Speaker 1: electric tracks where he could just start stop, start stop
Speaker 1: start stop. Hella fast, all right, Stave, But he's a
Speaker 1: free he's a freak. Let's go, let's get on. Vince
Speaker 1: will Fork big dog, Vince well four big v Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I wonder.
Speaker 2: Why something thanks something the Black Thanksgiving is his favorite holiday.
Speaker 1: I bet start the clock. What's hey? I gotta say,
Speaker 1: Vince well Fork stand.
Speaker 2: He had six foot two and weighing around three hundred
Speaker 2: and twenty five pounds. Played as a dominant nose tackle
Speaker 2: in the NFL three primarily I think he was like
Speaker 2: three fifty at one point sixty. Primarily played for the
Speaker 2: New England Patriots and later for the Houston Texans. Growing
Speaker 2: up in boy Town Beach, Florida, I think so Boyton, Boyton,
Speaker 2: boy Tom Beach, Florida, well Fork was a track and
Speaker 2: field stand out before switching to football at the University
Speaker 2: of Miami, select the twenty first overall in the two
Speaker 2: thousand and four draft, he was known for his strength, size,
Speaker 2: and ability to stuff the run, often drawing double teams
Speaker 2: and anchoring defenses with his power and skill. Over his career,
Speaker 2: will Fork recorded five hundred and sixty tackles, sixteen sacks,
Speaker 2: and three interceptions, earning two Super Bowl championships five Pro
Speaker 2: Bowl selections in a reputation as one of the best
Speaker 2: defense tackles of his era. Known for his charisma and
Speaker 2: a love for barbecue. He has remained a beloved figure
Speaker 2: off the field, where he's big personality and big hits
Speaker 2: made him a fan favorite. That's a lot by Ai.
Speaker 2: The long synopsis. That's the longest one we had so far.
Speaker 2: But Vince deserves it. Yeah, deserves it. He's the biggest
Speaker 2: guy so far we've been talking about. He's about three
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty five pounds. I think they got it
Speaker 2: got it wrong there. This guy can eat you up.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: He's lost a lot of weight now, he sure has.
Speaker 2: He looks really good, man, He really good. It looks
Speaker 2: good on him. It's just sad that you know he's
Speaker 2: not coming back though, you know, because every good player
Speaker 2: you always have that imagination that they're going to come back.
Speaker 1: He always thought Ve can. I think ve can still play.
Speaker 1: You just have that thought about them. What's the first
Speaker 1: thing that comes to your mind when you think about
Speaker 1: Big v The barbecues.
Speaker 2: You know, he came out with his own barbecue sauce.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure mister Kraft used to have that team
Speaker 2: get together, team bonding at his house in the Cape.
Speaker 2: After you made the team. It was right at the
Speaker 2: end of August. What howadays at right the end of August,
Speaker 2: Labor Day, Yeah, Labor Day, yep, And it was Labor
Speaker 2: Day week and we would all go up there and
Speaker 2: it'd be ribs or be you know, steaks, and then
Speaker 2: here comes Big V coming through and he brings his
Speaker 2: own barbecue sauce every single year. And I wouldn't eat
Speaker 2: those ribs or the soar line or you know, the
Speaker 2: burger meat until that barbecue sauce got there. And once
Speaker 2: Big V showed up, Hey, Big V passed that sauce over.
Speaker 1: Buddy.
Speaker 2: He loved it too, man, He loved being known about
Speaker 2: that sauce. And he just loved just the atmosphere around
Speaker 2: a cookout.
Speaker 1: For I was fortunate enough to get invited to one
Speaker 1: of his cookouts. He smokes some real ribs. He was
Speaker 1: into some big ass overalls with no shirt smoking ribs.
Speaker 1: He just looks at home when he's on a barbecue.
Speaker 1: He looks like that's he's at home. The first I
Speaker 1: remember when I was a rookie. He's comfortable. That's just
Speaker 1: comfort zone for him. It is I arber my rookie year.
Speaker 1: My welcome to the NFL moment was like I was
Speaker 1: rolling in like my my Toyota rental, and I park
Speaker 1: it in the way back of the players a lot,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, there's this fucking huge semi
Speaker 1: a fucking semi truck rolls in and parks up right
Speaker 1: in the front and takes like two damn spots backs
Speaker 1: in backs in this big ass orange semi truck. It's
Speaker 1: fucking Vince's daily driver. Vince had like a huge semi
Speaker 1: truck daily driver. He gets out of thinking and it
Speaker 1: looked just like him in front of the barbecue, just
Speaker 1: a comfort zone for him. Just a big ass dude
Speaker 1: getting out of a big ass truck. Big v was
Speaker 1: just fucking so cool. That was like my first welcome bed.
Speaker 1: I was like, holy shit, I don't even know you
Speaker 1: could buy some my trucks.
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of welcome to the NFL, he gave me
Speaker 2: my Welcome to the NFL dosage of a hit training
Speaker 2: camp rookie year.
Speaker 1: You know the wham block explained.
Speaker 2: Where they let go the guy let go, let's the
Speaker 2: just defensive tackle free, so then he thinks he's gonna
Speaker 2: go get a sack. And then the wam block is
Speaker 2: when I come across the line of scrimmage at the
Speaker 2: tight end position when I'm off the ball and I'm
Speaker 2: the one that goes and I wham the defensive tackle
Speaker 2: and try.
Speaker 1: To block on a trap for this tight end.
Speaker 2: There you go exactly and we're trapping the defensive tackle,
Speaker 2: so he knows it's coming. I mean, this is a
Speaker 2: specialty play that the New England Patriots been running.
Speaker 1: They know the fucking script well well before me. Yeah
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 2: It was it was at nine nine seven, So yeah,
Speaker 2: the defense does know the script so they can look
Speaker 2: really good in the run game throughout that whole period.
Speaker 2: And I think they also told him this play was coming,
Speaker 2: uh being specifically knowing I'm on to black Vince, and
Speaker 2: they wanted to see my toughness as a rookie. So
Speaker 2: the play call, I'm in full pass. You know, I'm
Speaker 2: a a wam block. I gotta show my toughness. I
Speaker 2: gotta show my keeps. I gotta get the respect of
Speaker 2: my fellow teammates, especially the veterans.
Speaker 1: Wait, let me paint the picture. Also, Rob's a rookie here.
Speaker 1: VI was like the big dog on campus. In practice.
Speaker 1: No one really gets close to him because you don't
Speaker 1: want to piss him off when you're new, you know,
Speaker 1: He's like, holy shit, is that a that is a
Speaker 1: large human being. He's like so big, I think there's
Speaker 1: like something that orbits him, like on how round he
Speaker 1: is like that's you didn't want to get in his way.
Speaker 1: You didn't want to piss him off because he was
Speaker 1: very intimidating. Get back to your story.
Speaker 2: So the play, you know, gets on its way. I
Speaker 2: do my little to you know, two side steps, you know,
Speaker 2: on the motion. I'm running full speed right at Vince Welford.
Speaker 2: This guy peeks over to his left, he sees me coming.
Speaker 2: He has this grin on his face. Knowing I was coming,
Speaker 2: he put his shoulder down. I'm going full speed at him,
Speaker 2: and he gets that leverage and just tease off on me.
Speaker 2: I went flying backwards five to six yards. I didn't
Speaker 2: even land on my back. He sent me flying in
Speaker 2: the air where I landed on my feet.
Speaker 1: Still, Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that hit hurt like a mother effort. But
Speaker 2: what's cool is I gained the respect to my teammates
Speaker 2: and my coach at that time, tight end coach, in
Speaker 2: that meeting that day when we went and reviewed.
Speaker 1: The Planarents Brian Farrens. Love you, Brian Farrenc.
Speaker 2: He's now at Iowa with his dad doing, you know,
Speaker 2: doing his thing, doing a good job. He goes, yo,
Speaker 2: what were you thinking trying to block Vince wolffor he goes,
Speaker 2: You're never going to do that again. I go, thank you,
Speaker 2: thank you. I go, I'll never do it again. And
Speaker 2: ever since that day, you know, we had about five
Speaker 2: more of those calls, and I just go up to him,
Speaker 2: I hug him. I didn't need to try to block him.
Speaker 2: It was just only going to get me hurt from
Speaker 2: there on out. Yeah, I just give him a hug
Speaker 2: like Vince. Nah, No, it's the way I'm block.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: I know you're going to beat me, like, there's there's
Speaker 2: no reason to go through this motion of me getting
Speaker 2: thrown backwards again. Oh my, I'm gonna break a rib.
Speaker 2: He's so, he's so you love your ribs, and you're
Speaker 2: gonna you know, you'll probably eat him and join him
Speaker 2: after with your barbecue sauce body.
Speaker 1: Oh my, that had to be so terrifying.
Speaker 2: It was well at that time, it was he's.
Speaker 1: An intimidating guy when you joined the team to.
Speaker 2: Terrifying after that because I was trying to, you know,
Speaker 2: gainer my keeps man like. I was trying to prove myself,
Speaker 2: so I didn't care who was in my way. And
Speaker 2: then I learned, I do care who's in my way.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: When when it comes down to the NFL, you gotta
Speaker 2: That's when you learned on when to, you know, take
Speaker 2: your shots at someone and when not to, when to
Speaker 2: block someone hard, when to kind of like just box
Speaker 2: someone out as well, instead of trying to hit him
Speaker 2: full speak and you hit him full speed, heads up.
Speaker 2: They you know, they're way bigger than you. This is
Speaker 2: when you start learning the ins and outs. And that's
Speaker 2: one ins and out. I learned big time.
Speaker 1: Freaking v And he was so quick too, Like that's
Speaker 1: what people don't realize, like they just surprisingly.
Speaker 2: Quick because of how big he was and his feet.
Speaker 2: You had fast feet, man. He was kind of like
Speaker 2: a running back that pitter patters, Like whoa big burp
Speaker 2: right there, Juels. Wow was the barbecue I ate from
Speaker 2: five years ago with big vans and still out we
Speaker 2: ate that much. I tasted that barbecue sauce right there.
Speaker 1: That was good.
Speaker 2: His feet were surprisingly click. He was like a boom.
Speaker 2: He was a rabbit out there.
Speaker 1: I remember always going in the weight room and you
Speaker 1: go over by like the kettlebells and like the arm
Speaker 1: bars and stuff, and there'd always be a shock put there.
Speaker 1: Remember him. You ever see him shotput? And I never have.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he can fucking shock. He was a
Speaker 1: fucking track star. I think he had like the state record.
Speaker 1: He had insane strength too.
Speaker 2: I remember like he wouldn't go in the weight room
Speaker 2: to just like warm up, you know, do three fifteen
Speaker 2: like five. He would just go in the weight room
Speaker 2: just to you know, maintain his strength. And he would
Speaker 2: just walk in and I remember him just throwing up
Speaker 2: like four hundred and twenty five pounds in the bench
Speaker 2: and just tossing it up then racking it and be
Speaker 2: like I'm done for today. Yeah, Like he didn't even
Speaker 2: need to work on his strength that much because he
Speaker 2: was just that strong naturally, and like it was to
Speaker 2: a whole nother level.
Speaker 1: I remember seeing him in the weight room too. He
Speaker 1: like Marcus Cannon, when he would work out, the weights
Speaker 1: would bend. He was just so strong and he had
Speaker 1: always great movement, like he was very he was very skillful,
Speaker 1: like fluid fluid, like when you watch Big V throw football.
Speaker 1: He looks like like he spins the ball really well.
Speaker 1: You see him hit a golf ball. He fucking has
Speaker 1: an unbelievable golf swing. I mean, the guy is so athletic.
Speaker 1: He used to return punts in high school. Like I remember,
Speaker 1: you know, Bill, Always every training camp when it's getting
Speaker 1: to like day nine ten, guys are worn down, beat
Speaker 1: up mentally, physically, emotionally exhausted. He'd always have a big
Speaker 1: lineman come in and try to catch a punt, and
Speaker 1: if you caught punch, you'd have the night off. He
Speaker 1: threw v up there and it looked too fucking easy.
Speaker 1: I think he won and snacked that thing was.
Speaker 2: It was so athletic. He could have played full back.
Speaker 2: I swear he could play run and it gets gained
Speaker 2: some yards before going down tight end. He could definitely
Speaker 2: play I heard him talking about this too as well.
Speaker 2: He could play defensive end obviously, anywhere on the defensive line.
Speaker 2: And he, like you said, quarterback as well.
Speaker 1: He had an arm.
Speaker 2: He loved being you know, before practice was going on,
Speaker 2: you know, before we get really got into it, he
Speaker 2: be chucking the ball, you know, to to his fellow
Speaker 2: defensive players. Having a good old time. He was just
Speaker 2: so disruptive as well. And he was kind of like
Speaker 2: the two gap god when he was, you know, on
Speaker 2: that defensive line and that being able to take two gaps.
Speaker 2: You know how much Steff Freese, that linebacker, that's a
Speaker 2: linebacker's best friend right there, Vince Wolford, I mean.
Speaker 1: Drod Mayo, Dante high Tower, Jamie Cult they all love them.
Speaker 2: They all do it.
Speaker 1: And guys like they love guys that take double teams.
Speaker 1: Lets you get to that fucking kind of Big V
Speaker 1: just said. Big V has so many stats. He's he
Speaker 1: had so much production for the amount of stats he
Speaker 1: had because he had such hidden things that made plays go.
Speaker 1: It was unblockable. And you take two double teams, they
Speaker 1: can never get the guy to the second level. Like
Speaker 1: he just was fucking a monster. And we wanted to
Speaker 1: talk about him on this show specifically because.
Speaker 2: Because what is he known for on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: Jules, He's the one that created the butt, but.
Speaker 2: The force, the generator of the butt fumball.
Speaker 1: Versus the New York Jets. Tan Chaz, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: he did that before. Like he it's where he gets
Speaker 1: so much penetration. He drives his guy back so far
Speaker 1: that it hit the quarterback with the guy that he
Speaker 1: was driving backs, but that made him fumble the football
Speaker 1: and Steve Gregory scoop score in his home area of
Speaker 1: New Jersey, which was just a fucking crazy game. That
Speaker 1: comes to my mind when I think evins of some
Speaker 1: of his crazy stories. But also remember when we were
Speaker 1: in Buffalo and he read out the receivers.
Speaker 2: What was he rewarded with though after he had the
Speaker 2: turkey on the post game he had the turkey leg.
Speaker 1: He had the turkey leg.
Speaker 2: He's rewarded with a turkey leg during the post game
Speaker 2: for his contribution to the butt fumble.
Speaker 1: And he ate that thing.
Speaker 2: He ate it all.
Speaker 1: Not surprised.
Speaker 2: So what what was it that you were talking about
Speaker 2: in Buffalo?
Speaker 1: Remember in Buffalo where they had that receiver screen and
Speaker 1: V read it and he was full full speed and
Speaker 1: a receiver was full speed not seeing him, and it
Speaker 1: looked like it looked like if a semi hit like
Speaker 1: one of those little smart cars.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, this this is the receiver. Like he
Speaker 2: was up, he was up, and the like your finger
Speaker 2: just got bent backwards in the matter of a split second,
Speaker 2: boom that looked like the receiver right there.
Speaker 1: Boom, It's not even that, it's not even the mass.
Speaker 1: Imagine if he like fell on you going that fast,
Speaker 1: well you like a bug, like a fucking bug.
Speaker 2: I bet you got a fly out of the air
Speaker 2: and it just explodes everywhere. That's kind of what happened
Speaker 2: to the Bills wide receiver.
Speaker 1: And you always they flattened him. No, it was that's
Speaker 1: a terrifying hit. Like that's like, that was a terrifying hit.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of big hits that you see. You're like,
Speaker 1: all right, you can you can withstand that. But when
Speaker 1: it's it's straight physics, when you got mass times velocity,
Speaker 1: you get forced, you get fucking force. And that's what
Speaker 1: big V was. I don't know if that's right for
Speaker 1: you physics people get us in there. But then also
Speaker 1: what about what about his interceptions. We're talking big plays here.
Speaker 2: I mean he had that that pick versus Philip Rivers
Speaker 2: at home in Gillette Stadium when he was at another
Speaker 2: screen or he was just I think he was. It
Speaker 2: got tipped or somebody, Yeah, did he tip it? Did
Speaker 2: he tip it? Yeah, he tipped it to himself. He
Speaker 2: showed great ball skills right there.
Speaker 1: And then then you saw your fast feet.
Speaker 2: Yes, and then he started just you know, trucking down
Speaker 2: the field like a rabbit with his fast feet. He
Speaker 2: looked nimble, and he looked agile and just rumbling down
Speaker 2: the field.
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone in the world that watched that play,
Speaker 1: anyone in the world didn't want that big man to
Speaker 1: score when a big man has because the ball looked
Speaker 1: like a fucking like, uh, a paper talent is in
Speaker 1: his armpit of breadth. I mean it, pumper nickel, pumper nickel.
Speaker 1: It looks so small and he's like running it and
Speaker 1: like everyone is just sitting there, like, look at the
Speaker 1: big big Remember Colm Ley also did that and they
Speaker 1: kick off return packers. I love big Man get or
Speaker 1: score a touchdown Soldier.
Speaker 2: Everyone loves it. Man Soldier had that one. The Lions
Speaker 2: are doing it a lot. Lions are doing it. We're
Speaker 2: speaking of Thanksgiving, you know, teams Lions and there you know,
Speaker 2: don't don't not expect a trick play to alignman this
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving from the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 1: I mean a fake punt. You're gonna You're gonna there's
Speaker 1: gonna be something like that. We we talked about on
Speaker 1: this show a few weeks back. Tight End University Day
Speaker 1: or Happy tight End Day? What's it called? National tight End?
Speaker 1: National tight End deck. There's got to be a national
Speaker 1: big Guy Touchdown Day or a big Guy catch Day.
Speaker 1: It just needs to be national.
Speaker 2: Bit Like, it's a rule in the NFL book that
Speaker 2: you got have to at least run one tackle eligible, play.
Speaker 1: One tackle eligible. The guy has to be over two
Speaker 1: and seventy five and eighty five pounds has to touch
Speaker 1: a football on one specific day, National Big Fat Guy Day.
Speaker 1: I like that. That's what I think. We like that.
Speaker 1: Who's gonna start it? I think we need Big V. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Big V, come on, let's go. You remember in the
Speaker 1: butt fumble game. I remember watching it the next day
Speaker 1: in meetings, Bill rewinded it like four or five times,
Speaker 1: barely said anything, and then like got up and talked
Speaker 1: and he said, the Jets got exactly what they deserve,
Speaker 1: Like did something like one of those you know what,
Speaker 1: do you remember that? I actually was hurt that year
Speaker 1: a juel.
Speaker 2: So I was at home just watching it from my couch,
Speaker 2: just enjoying my thing thanks Giving, and I just remember
Speaker 2: that play happening. I was shocked because we were already dominating,
Speaker 2: that dominating, dominating that it wasn't even.
Speaker 1: A close game at all.
Speaker 2: And just when that happened, I was giggling to myself,
Speaker 2: like what a play.
Speaker 1: I never seen anything like that.
Speaker 2: And I was screaming too, because Gregory just scooped it
Speaker 2: like it just didn't happen. A butt fumble and directly
Speaker 2: on the ground and directly in the Gregory's hand went
Speaker 2: to the end zone of the Patriots as well. We
Speaker 2: got six points out of it. It's like it doesn't
Speaker 2: happen usually. Usually, like a play like that, you know,
Speaker 2: usually someone just gets on it and it's a fumble recovery.
Speaker 2: It went to the house. We scored on it.
Speaker 1: How do you think Sanchiz or Sanchito feels about that.
Speaker 2: I mean, Sanchiz is a good dudeofy dude, so I
Speaker 2: think he kind of likes it.
Speaker 1: I think he does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he does own it for sure. He'll giggle
Speaker 2: about it for sure. It's kind of like the Miami miracle.
Speaker 2: I own that play. Yeah, he got like the fumble
Speaker 2: with Sanchez, I mean it's okay, I mean it happens.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like the two thousand and four or
Speaker 1: two thousand and two, uh frosh Off Championship between the
Speaker 1: Bay Division Ocean Division. You know, I gave this interception
Speaker 1: away and they won it on it. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like you own it now, fucking him. I'll never own it.
Speaker 2: It's bullshit. It's okay, Jules. One day you'll own it.
Speaker 2: You'll get over it. It's okay, man, we're here for it.
Speaker 1: Just be thankful for other things and then you'll get
Speaker 1: over that. You know what, I'm also thankful for. What
Speaker 1: are you thankful for? That? We were a part of
Speaker 1: probably two of the craziest play calls in the history
Speaker 1: of football. Won the butt fumble? Yes, what's more embarrassing
Speaker 1: the butt fumble? Or do you remember when the Colts
Speaker 1: had that stupid punt formation that they tried us Sad
Speaker 1: was down.
Speaker 2: It was fourth and two and they were trying to
Speaker 2: get us on a trick more than four. It was
Speaker 2: a weird formation. They had like everyone spread out wide
Speaker 2: and then.
Speaker 1: The center's just down in distance.
Speaker 2: And then there was a running back behind in the
Speaker 2: center or something, and then they hiked it and everyone
Speaker 2: was in like in shock, like what the.
Speaker 1: Goings? And that's The only reason I bring this up
Speaker 1: is because the same shock factor that we had that like,
Speaker 1: did that but just make that fumble and then we
Speaker 1: scored a touchdown. That same shock factor is the same
Speaker 1: shock factor we had when they did this punt formation thing.
Speaker 2: Did he really hiked the ball?
Speaker 1: I'm not a math guy, but three on one, I'm
Speaker 1: looking at the Colt sideline right here after the play.
Speaker 1: Are you fucking serious? What is this? Like? This is
Speaker 1: National Football.
Speaker 2: League and they're only down by six in the third quarter.
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's the cults for you? That was
Speaker 1: that was worse than the bumble, Yeah, because that's placed
Speaker 1: through force in gravity exactly. The butt fumble was made
Speaker 1: by Vince in that fucking three hundred in twenty five
Speaker 1: pound frame, twenty five pound taking his matchup and driving
Speaker 1: him into the fucking I'm I'm blabberd acid. I didn't
Speaker 1: realize we were going to get into that play. I
Speaker 1: think they rose the banner that year. That's why I
Speaker 1: never lost, was that the banner. Ye never lost to
Speaker 1: the Did we ever lose the cults?
Speaker 2: I did two thousand and nine, so it doesn't count.
Speaker 1: How about the big boy on body issues? I mean,
Speaker 1: he's He's not like it looks like muscle. It is muscle.
Speaker 2: That's why I love the ESPN the Body Issue because
Speaker 2: they featured everyone.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's and they were just showing how were you
Speaker 1: on it? The statue?
Speaker 2: Yes, how the statue of the body represented all different
Speaker 2: types of athletes, from a guy that played tackle to
Speaker 2: a wide receiver to myself.
Speaker 1: Right there, young, You want to know.
Speaker 2: The running joke was about me, I'm being on the
Speaker 2: Body issue cover?
Speaker 1: What was that? The circle?
Speaker 2: It was really small that they needed to use.
Speaker 1: What circle? The cover me up? Yeah?
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 1: I didn't they tell you it was going to be
Speaker 1: a small set, like there's not gonna be a lot
Speaker 1: of people there.
Speaker 2: There really wasn't. There's probably like five, five or six.
Speaker 2: How many people were on your I feel like there
Speaker 2: was thirty in mine? Really thirty. I wanted to see you, Jules,
Speaker 2: you're a good looking guy. I did a wonderful body.
Speaker 1: Now, how did the How did the football stay on?
Speaker 2: It's a good question. I was kind of adjusting it
Speaker 2: before every shot, and then I kind of adjusted it
Speaker 2: so I kind of found that niche.
Speaker 1: Did you have to take a viagara to keep that
Speaker 1: thing stacked up so you could just post on there. No.
Speaker 2: No, it was actually one of the worst performance looking
Speaker 2: days of my life. It was kind of chilly in there,
Speaker 2: I tell you, I felt like a frozen raisin. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I was just giggling at myself every time I
Speaker 2: look back at the pictures. Yeah, it was bad. It
Speaker 2: was bad. I was embarrassed just looking at it myself.
Speaker 1: It was crazy because like you would see like a
Speaker 1: picture of you know, you'd go with the photographer and
Speaker 1: your your wiener would be out and you'd see the
Speaker 1: picture and then all of a sudden, they'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: don't worry, we could just cut that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're sitting there worrying because you're like, you're
Speaker 2: gonna go tell everyone you know, and then that person
Speaker 2: that's reviewing my.
Speaker 1: Request three degrees in the shoot set it was sixty
Speaker 1: ten minutes. What kind of dude is Vince will fork
Speaker 1: stud a freak, a dog, a dude's dude, or a whiz.
Speaker 2: I mean he's a waist. He has a lot of
Speaker 2: intellectual and knowledge of the game of football. I mean
Speaker 2: he was a smart player. That's why he knew that
Speaker 2: big play that he made when we were talking about
Speaker 2: it versus the Buffalo Bills, and he absolutely dominated the
Speaker 2: receiver on that screen across the middle because he saw
Speaker 2: that play coming. He sniffed it out like he was
Speaker 2: a wizard out there. That's how he made majority of
Speaker 2: his play. Same with his interceptions. He knew the screen
Speaker 2: was coming. He backed off. He knew that when he
Speaker 2: got dropped, he wasn't going to just go to the
Speaker 2: quarterback and get a free sack. He knew there must
Speaker 2: be a different type of play coming. Oh it's going
Speaker 2: to be a screen or it's a gimmick or something.
Speaker 2: I mean, he was smart, bro, He was very smart
Speaker 2: on that football field, I'm telling you. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: he was a freak for his size, I mean three sixty,
Speaker 2: just the way that he could move, his athletic ability.
Speaker 2: Kind of a dude's dude as well, with his barbecues,
Speaker 2: man inviting the guys over, having that barbecue sauce for everyone.
Speaker 1: He's also a fucking dog. Yeah, he was a dog.
Speaker 1: He was grimy in there. Oh yeah, when you're the
Speaker 1: guy taking the double team the whole time, and you
Speaker 1: know you have to go getting six hundred pounds every
Speaker 1: fucking play because he's taking double teams every place, six
Speaker 1: hundred pounds.
Speaker 2: And he would take those double teams and kind of
Speaker 2: just eat those double teams up, he really would, and
Speaker 2: just let that linebacker just free to go in and
Speaker 2: make the place.
Speaker 1: And he's a fucking stud is atltus Susan he is, man.
Speaker 1: I mean, he could shoot a basketball. I mean he's
Speaker 1: insane thrower of the football. You watch his golf swing,
Speaker 1: You're like, holy fuck, I think he's scratched. This is
Speaker 1: a true tough one. Man.
Speaker 2: This is really tough to really categorize and pinpoint Vince
Speaker 2: Wolfork to just one category.
Speaker 1: Man, it's gonna be tough on three. What do you expect? One?
Speaker 2: Oh man, hold on, let me keep thinking about this man,
Speaker 2: all right, all right.
Speaker 1: One, two, three?
Speaker 2: Friuiz ah man, oh man, I know, man, he is
Speaker 2: a freak though, but he's he's so smart.
Speaker 1: Man, I'm telling you he's a smart football player. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that goes into his freakiness where you think a
Speaker 1: guy that looks like him is smart. He's great.
Speaker 2: He's great in commercials too, like you see him in
Speaker 2: that stove commercial.
Speaker 1: Now, like grilling and all that. He's on TV.
Speaker 2: But you also just sitting there like smart large gotta
Speaker 2: be smart large guy right now. That, like we said,
Speaker 2: we're categorizing freaks as you're just looking at someone You're like,
Speaker 2: how can they possibly do that?
Speaker 1: Size?
Speaker 2: Also also like can we say, yeah, he's he's a
Speaker 2: wizard though, can you.
Speaker 1: Agree with that.
Speaker 2: He?
Speaker 1: I mean, I always remember, I mean Bill talking about
Speaker 1: how smart he is a football player instinctive.
Speaker 2: So I do agree he is a freak of nature.
Speaker 2: I mean obviously to be that size, to move, you know,
Speaker 2: to move that well on the football field, take on
Speaker 2: double teams and just squash him. Just the way he
Speaker 2: tackled guys too, They would go right down. There was
Speaker 2: no mistackles by Vince Wallfork when he got your hands
Speaker 2: on you.
Speaker 1: No, so he drape you down and he swallow you.
Speaker 2: All Right, we'll try again. Let's do it again.
Speaker 1: One two, three, freak stamp it. We'll be right back
Speaker 1: after this quick break.
Speaker 2: Since it's Thanksgiving, we're talking food with our dudes.
Speaker 1: That's right, We're gonna be equating our favorite Thanksgiving dishes
Speaker 1: to an NFL player.
Speaker 2: Like Tom Brady would totally be the turkey. The star
Speaker 2: of the show.
Speaker 1: Mashed Potatoes cranberryes stuffing mac and cheese.
Speaker 2: My mouth is watering already.
Speaker 1: Let's get it to it.
Speaker 2: Let's get into it, Jewles, all right, so cranberry, I'm.
Speaker 1: Ready to feast already. Right now, I'm getting hungry. The
Speaker 1: NFL equivalent to a cranberry sauce, which we're going to
Speaker 1: categorize cranberry sauce as a little sweet little tart, a
Speaker 1: bit polarizing. Who would that be? Man?
Speaker 2: There's gotta be a couple players that represent that. Does
Speaker 2: it have to be someone that we play with or
Speaker 2: it can be a current player anyone. It could be anyone,
Speaker 2: but it has to be an NFL player. Medcalf DK
Speaker 2: you really think so? He's a little polarizing. People either
Speaker 2: love him or hate him.
Speaker 1: He could be a fucking a fun time out there,
Speaker 1: but he can also rip your face off and try
Speaker 1: to fight you. He's always trying to fight.
Speaker 2: You want to know who really reminds me of a
Speaker 2: cranberry sauce?
Speaker 1: That's you, Jewels Man. You are a little sweet man.
Speaker 2: You could be definitely tired at sometimes you could be
Speaker 2: sour depending on the mood that you are and going
Speaker 2: into the locker room that day depending on what happened,
Speaker 2: and a bit polarizing.
Speaker 1: I mean, one.
Speaker 2: Day you're all, you know, positive, the next day you're
Speaker 2: yelling at everybody on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 1: So I'm going with you as the cranberry sauce. I'll
Speaker 1: take it all right. Are you kidding me? Are you
Speaker 1: kidding me? Are you?
Speaker 2: Are you like that sugary cranberry sauce?
Speaker 1: I think you are. I'm the ocean cranberry cansauce. Okay,
Speaker 1: And it's easy, open her up, take her out. Probably
Speaker 1: not the best for you, but delicious. I love this.
Speaker 1: I love this segment already.
Speaker 2: Man, Thanksgiving food talk and who it represents as a player.
Speaker 1: Man, this is fun.
Speaker 2: I can't I can't wait. What am I?
Speaker 1: We'll get to it, hopefully, I'm gonna be the next
Speaker 1: one stuffing versatyle a fan favorite ties it all together.
Speaker 1: Oh I like it.
Speaker 2: You're stuffing, I am stuffing.
Speaker 1: I'm going with it. Who else is stuffing? I can
Speaker 1: do it all on the football field. I mean Barry
Speaker 1: Sanders would be stuffing, you know, keeping it on the
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving mashed potatoes and gravy. Two dudes, Blue guy dish
Speaker 1: holds everything together. Is it one guy or is it
Speaker 1: two dudes?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ago with Definitely Matthew Slater here. Yeah, he's
Speaker 2: a blue guy. He does hold the whole team together.
Speaker 2: He holds court after the game. Yeah, Matt Matt Slater
Speaker 2: definitely plays a big part in the mashed potatoes and gravy?
Speaker 2: Are we are we working with two guys here? Who's
Speaker 2: the gravy because he's not the gravy, he's the mashed
Speaker 2: potatoes definitely, and then the gravy that that tops that off.
Speaker 1: Joe Cardonia would be his little psych Yeah, Joe Cardona.
Speaker 2: But what about Nico Kudavids Codovits definitely the gravy he was, Yeah,
Speaker 2: he is. He kept everyone together.
Speaker 1: In like a fatty way. Gravy is not the best
Speaker 1: for you. It's actually terrible for you because it's just
Speaker 1: butter and and Nico was kind of terrible for you. Terrible,
Speaker 1: but great it all together.
Speaker 2: If you don't know who Nico Davids is, I mean
Speaker 2: he he played in the NFL at the linebacker position
Speaker 2: for you know, nine years in started with Seattle, played
Speaker 2: in Denver, Tampa, and then he ended up finished his
Speaker 2: career with US on the New England Patriots.
Speaker 1: He was he was.
Speaker 2: He was a part of the good times, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: He was the guy that held court. He was a
Speaker 1: very gravy guy. Loved me some Nico. He was funny
Speaker 1: as fuck. First day Tim Tebow came in and asked
Speaker 1: him if he jacked off. Who's the cheese? We can't
Speaker 1: get into that though, man oh man, all right, let's.
Speaker 2: Get the mac and cheese a perform a performer, the
Speaker 2: mac and cheesemer.
Speaker 1: The mac and cheese is a sleepy star for Minnie.
Speaker 1: The performer steals his show. I would say causes problems.
Speaker 2: They cause problems, Yeah, because it's either like you're a
Speaker 2: mac and cheese fan or you're just not a mac
Speaker 2: and cheese fan. And some people believe mac and cheese
Speaker 2: is a Thanksgiving staple and that's kind of like down South.
Speaker 2: And then there's other people who don't believe mac and
Speaker 2: cheese should even be on the plate for Thanksgiving. It's
Speaker 2: kind of like a diss to the green beans.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so then who's the mac and cheese performer? Controversial?
Speaker 2: Jamis Winston.
Speaker 1: He's a little controversial. He eats some ws.
Speaker 2: He's just so yeah, he does that w thing and
Speaker 2: then eats when he was with the Bucks.
Speaker 1: What about Aaron Rodgers? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a one,
Speaker 1: right there, Rogers.
Speaker 2: He's a cheesy yeah he is.
Speaker 1: If you put a little like Baker Baker, Baker Mayfield,
Speaker 1: you put some mushrooms in there.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, there you go. Yeah, oh Wen, Aaron Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: So say that again, what was that? Well, you know,
Speaker 1: instead of putting like a truffle mac and cheese, yeah,
Speaker 1: put like a mushroom mac and cheese or ayahuasca mac
Speaker 1: and cheese or some kind of psychedelic mac and cheese. Maybe. No,
Speaker 1: you're right on. I can't argue that. Who's the turkey
Speaker 1: right now? The National Football League? The turkey right now?
Speaker 1: The Star Patrick Mahomes not even an argument, it's not
Speaker 1: even argument. Maybe Josh Allen, he's a turkey in Buffalo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a little dried up though. You know, he's got
Speaker 1: a little he's a little tried out turkey.
Speaker 2: When it comes to the AFC Championship game, he needs
Speaker 2: it to he.
Speaker 1: Needs a little turkey up, a little moisture, And Josh
Speaker 1: Allen is like that white meat, little dryer. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would say that's overcooked. He's not over It's still good.
Speaker 1: It's still really good, but it ain't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not overcooked Patrick yet. Yeah, just not not
Speaker 2: that little you.
Speaker 1: Know, you know, you never know this time we cook it,
Speaker 1: he could be This year it cooks in and we
Speaker 1: get a perfect cook But right now, you know, time
Speaker 1: will tell you that the most moist turkey would be
Speaker 1: Patrick mahomes. All right, And who's the pumpkin pie slash
Speaker 1: sweet Potato? The reliable, consistent, little good ender of the meal?
Speaker 2: No matter what how full you are, you always have
Speaker 2: room to eat.
Speaker 4: This pumpkin pie or sweet potato apple pie with a
Speaker 4: side of vanilla ice cream, with whipped cream, a cherry
Speaker 4: on top, maybe some nuts sprinkled over it with some
Speaker 4: caramel sauce, some chocolate sauce.
Speaker 2: Who now we're talking? Who is this guy? Reliable?
Speaker 1: Insistent in the good ender to him? Oh? Is this
Speaker 1: is this? Uh? Is this playoff dola like a kicker? Yeah?
Speaker 2: But playoff always reliable in the playoffs always. I mean,
Speaker 2: he is a good ender to a meal. I mean,
Speaker 2: you see how delicious he looks. I'm dancing with the styres. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the dude is consistent guy at being reliable in the
Speaker 2: playoffs regular season. If you ask Bill Belichick, he was
Speaker 2: not consistent there. But we're not talking regular season. We're
Speaker 2: talking end of this season, when the meal is over.
Speaker 2: He was always.
Speaker 1: There when the meal was on the line. But this
Speaker 1: might have to go to a kicker, though, who are
Speaker 1: you thinking as a kicker? All timer right now?
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter?
Speaker 1: Buckner right or what's it? Buck He's consistent. I'm not
Speaker 1: a a little controversial. Depending on what pie he is,
Speaker 1: he could be apple pie and I can tell you
Speaker 1: who's making that pie. I can tell you who's making
Speaker 1: that pie. It ain't him, it's his better half. But
Speaker 1: you know, depending on you, he could be a pump
Speaker 1: the sweet potato. People may not like him personally, I
Speaker 1: think they taste the same.
Speaker 2: They do, especially when you have a side of ice cream.
Speaker 1: Personally, I think you know you give me either. I'm cool.
Speaker 1: You know he's made a lot of big kicks in
Speaker 1: the last few years, so I would say he's pumpkin
Speaker 1: or sweet potato pie, depending on who you are what
Speaker 1: you are.
Speaker 2: I'm hungry, I.
Speaker 1: Know I'm hungry.
Speaker 2: Thankful for the show today, man, Thankful to be there
Speaker 2: with you. Joys talking out what's going on, you know
Speaker 2: in the football world, scouting guys, what we can do
Speaker 2: better on our episodes as well. Just thankful for everything, man,
Speaker 2: Thankful for the meals that you bring here every time
Speaker 2: I show up. Good meal. I'm podcasting days, man, great meals,
Speaker 2: the smoothies, the breakfast burritos. Man, just so good.
Speaker 1: I tell you right now, you ladies, you guys, trying
Speaker 1: to get at the gronk, which he's taking it off
Speaker 1: off off the line. But you know, you get to
Speaker 1: him through his stomach. You don't get to his heart.
Speaker 1: You go through his stomach. I don't got a heart.
Speaker 1: I got his stomach. Yeah, but you can get through
Speaker 1: that hard. You can get to give him some food
Speaker 1: and smoothie, some healthy ship, you know, and you get
Speaker 1: a give one self. Scout. What do I think I
Speaker 1: think we did? What could we do about our jewels?
Speaker 1: Sometimes we get him these tangents to have nothing to
Speaker 1: do with anything. But that's podcast I guess podcasts, and
Speaker 1: it's finest. We'll figure it out. You guys, tell us,
Speaker 1: you guys, tell us what we got to do better.
Speaker 1: We're still trying to tighten this thing up, making a
Speaker 1: fishing effective machine kind of like it was when we
Speaker 1: were playing in the place we played. That's not like
Speaker 1: that right now, we're trying to be like it was. Yes,
Speaker 1: it was throwbacks. And that's been another episode of Dudes
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