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Speaker 1: Welcome to Dudes. On Dudes, I'm Julian Edelman and I'm

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Speaker 1: Rob Gronkows and this is the show where your favorite

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Speaker 1: dudes get to talk about their favorite dudes. And on

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Speaker 1: today's episode, in order to celebrate Thanksgiving, we are going

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Speaker 1: to talk about some Thanksgiving legends. That's right, Jules.

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Speaker 2: We get into one of the greatest running backs of

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Speaker 2: all right, Max, So we got jewels.

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Speaker 1: We had ten games on Turkey Day seven and three

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Speaker 2: Team that played on Thanksgiving not America's.

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Speaker 1: And then we get into our one and only and.

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Speaker 2: The story behind the iconic but fumble on Thanksgiving, Oh

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Speaker 2: my god, and we wrap up by determining what Thanksgiving

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Speaker 2: dishes your favorite NFL players are, Football, Turkey. I love

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Speaker 2: everything on my Thanksgiving dish, Jules, you.

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Speaker 1: Got to stick around to the very end. Let's go

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Speaker 1: dudes on Dudes. He's a production of iHeartRadio. Today's Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1: and we wanted to bring a special episode dedicated to

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Speaker 1: all Thanksgiving theme things. We're gonna go Thanksgiving players, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna go over some of our Thanksgiving memories and what

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Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving, Jewels, the best holiday of the year for sure.

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Speaker 2: It is you know, incorporates family, U incorporates Pilgrims.

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Speaker 2: When we played the Detroit Lions, because we played them

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Speaker 2: Yeah, bringing the old timers back. It's about bringing the

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Speaker 1: No, that Wednesday night, like we we don't get to

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Speaker 2: You know, that Wednesday night before Thanksgiving. They claim, I

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Speaker 2: That's also why I love Thanksgiving too. I'm very thankful

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Speaker 1: I'm thankful that right right now in my in my life,

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Speaker 1: That's so lucky.

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Speaker 2: That's the bigess blessing right there. That's for sure. You

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great that's a great one to be

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Speaker 2: All right, Jules, Let's get on to our first Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1: Let's get on to Emmitt Smith.

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Speaker 2: I'm at Smith running back Dallas Cowboys from Pensacola, Florida.

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Speaker 2: Let's see what the synopsis of I'm at Smith says.

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Speaker 1: The great AI, ladies and AI, we need ten minutes.

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Speaker 2: I'm at Smith standing at five foot nine inches and

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Speaker 2: weighing two hundred and twenty one pounds.

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Speaker 1: That's a big.

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Speaker 2: Boy for five Gee, oh Molly, what are you?

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Speaker 1: You're five to ten? What playing week, Man, I was big.

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Speaker 1: I was thick. Yeah, he was even thicker, two set thick.

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Speaker 2: He played running back in the NFL, primarily for the

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Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys and later for the Arizona Cardinals. Drafted seventeenth

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Speaker 2: He retired as the NFL's all time leading rusher with

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Speaker 1: Was he first ballot? First ballot? Was? He was? First battle?

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Speaker 2: And here's a quick fun fact, how am It's pregame

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Speaker 2: that might be the most impressive thing about his career.

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Speaker 2: And I wonder if he ate those peanut m and

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Speaker 1: What do you think? I think it was Probably it

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Speaker 2: The greatest running backs of all time, exemplified what being

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Speaker 1: Yes, that is that is true.

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Speaker 2: Jarry Jones did say that, but he really did exemplify

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing, no one really wants to be running

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Speaker 1: It back in the day when it was Emmitt Smith,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Emma Smith is huge. When I think of

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Speaker 1: what did you What was your pregame food? I had

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Speaker 1: That was always a routine.

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Speaker 1: Man, I love chocolate milk to this day.

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Speaker 2: And I just felt like, you know, getting that protein

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Speaker 1: What better way to make.

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Speaker 1: Do you hear that? Going around uncrustables in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: That's what I would do as a kid. What jumps

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Speaker 2: just playing games like silly rabbit. He's just you know,

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Speaker 1: What do you say, who do you who'd you hate

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't really remember too much when he

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Speaker 1: Man, that's what's almost even more impressive, because what's the

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Speaker 2: He had the wow lateral cuts he had.

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Speaker 2: Man, when he you know, popped out his shoulder and

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Speaker 1: Against the Giants. Do you ever remember playing someone banged

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're just not properly made to fall down

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Speaker 2: had a you know, super high ankle sprain, went in

434
00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,200
Speaker 2: the locker room, got it taped up, and literally I

435
00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,480
Speaker 2: had the same mindset, Hey, I'm not in pain. This

436
00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,040
Speaker 2: is the AFC Championship game. I may never be back.

437
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,359
Speaker 2: If we win this game, We're going to the freaking

438
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,439
Speaker 2: super Bowl. That's what you know, you're just dreamed of

439
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,960
Speaker 2: as a kid. So I had to go back, and

440
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:30,160
Speaker 2: I'm telling you that shit, yeah I took. It wasn't

441
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,879
Speaker 2: lyto kine. It was the tour it all shot, you know,

442
00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:34,800
Speaker 2: right there on the spot. I don't think it really

443
00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,359
Speaker 2: did much because you know, a high ankle sprain and

444
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 2: you're in a lot of pain. I mean I went

445
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 2: out there. I was limping a little bit. No more catches.

446
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 2: What some serious blocks to get to the super Bowl?

447
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,320
Speaker 2: That yeah, what was the craziest injury you ever played

448
00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:50,000
Speaker 2: through in a game?

449
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,120
Speaker 1: That crazy snowstorm game.

450
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,240
Speaker 2: First Tennessee when you guys won fifty nine to nothing. Yeah,

451
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 2: I was still at the University of Arizona.

452
00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 1: I was in the fourth quarter. I got to play

453
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 1: a bunch being a slapstick slaptick back. Then cut a

454
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,919
Speaker 1: ball and Van der Bosch fell on me and I

455
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,120
Speaker 1: broke my arm. I snapped my forearm and I look

456
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,679
Speaker 1: over to Ivan Fears the sideline. I go, Coach, I

457
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:16,680
Speaker 1: think I'm hurt. He goes, stay in we ain't gotta

458
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 1: know whatever was out a football coach. I'm like, all right,

459
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 1: all right, and then freaking Hoyer through me the ball

460
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 1: Like the next drive, I caught a ball with a

461
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,640
Speaker 1: broken arm. It was fucking crazy. And I come off

462
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 1: and I'm like, chatty, O, I think I broke my arm.

463
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,120
Speaker 1: Dude Like he's like, oh well, I think everyone's kind

464
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 1: out right now. I'm like, yeah, all right, whatever, let's

465
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 1: do it. And so play with the broken.

466
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 2: All that sucks, bro, I mean, it's bad. And then

467
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,200
Speaker 2: it's bad asked to play through an injury.

468
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 1: But it does suck.

469
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 2: Matter, it sucks. It's part of the game.

470
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:53,120
Speaker 1: The guys, the greatest players like Emmett Smith for this situation.

471
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,639
Speaker 1: When they're banged up, they find a way to be

472
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 1: productive and they adjust their game to the deficiencies with

473
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 1: their injury, and they still go out and ball. That's

474
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 1: what makes a great player. Tommy Smith was a fucking

475
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 1: guy that did that with the shoulder game. What about him?

476
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 2: Most all time rushing yards on Thanksgiving Day as well,

477
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 2: with over eleven hundred.

478
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 1: Yards I mean Turkey Day. He owned the most.

479
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:18,879
Speaker 2: Rushing tds on Thanksgiving thirteen. Jesus His best Thanksgiving was

480
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 2: about twenty nine carries, one hundred and fifty five yards

481
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,360
Speaker 2: and three touchdowns in nineteen ninety six. He's a three

482
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 2: time Super Bowl champion with the Dallas Cowboys, and he

483
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 2: helps secure back to back Super Bowls and they were

484
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 2: both blowout wins versus my hometown, the Buffalo Bills. People

485
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 2: still talk about those losses. How the Bills went to

486
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. I think four years in a row?

487
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 2: Was it three or four years earrow? I was only

488
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,680
Speaker 2: one years old, two years old, three years old, four

489
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 2: years old, But it still hurts the city of Buffalo.

490
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Speaker 1: EMMITTT.

491
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 2: Smith put that big of a pounding on them, and

492
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 2: a huge shout out to Jimmy Johnson, Michael Irvin on

493
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 2: the team. I mean, what a solid team they had.

494
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,360
Speaker 2: Man and Troy Aikman. Was he the quarterback?

495
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 1: Troy Tripletz. That's the team right there, the Triplets. Now

496
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 1: what do you think of the Lions and the Cowboys

497
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 1: always playing on Thanksgiving?

498
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I love how those teams are the tradition.

499
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously the Cowboys, they are America's team. They

500
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 2: draw the most represents the Thanksgiving you need the Dallas

501
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 2: Cowboys on TV.

502
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 1: The Detroit Lions.

503
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 2: They became so bad at one point that it.

504
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 1: Really it was like their Super Bowl. Yeah, yeah, it

505
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 1: was their super Bowl because that was like their only

506
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 1: primetime game for a long time.

507
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 2: At one time, they were like ohing fifteen all sixteen

508
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 2: the league. They were winning two three games. At the time,

509
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 2: it rarely wasn't important that Detroit was playing on Thanksgiving.

510
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 2: It might have been important for the city, but it

511
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 2: was important to all of America that the Dallas Cowboys

512
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 2: were playing on Thanksgiving. But now it's just as important

513
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 2: when the Detroit Lions. Everyone loves Detroit right now, they're

514
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 2: kind of becoming like America's up and coming team.

515
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 1: America and coming of the middle Upper Midwest they called

516
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: it Midwest, they call it the Midwest, you know.

517
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm always bordering the Canada.

518
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 1: Actually always Canada's team. Actually, well technically Detroit is the

519
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: only city where Canada is south of it. EMITTT. Smith always.

520
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: He was also known for his his game day fits. Yes, yeah,

521
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 1: pullovers right, yeah, no, that's that's what he's endorsed by

522
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 1: now pullover diapers.

523
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 2: Oh it depends right, yeah, Because he's always dependable in

524
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 2: Dallas He's always dependable. Representing depends adult diapers because you

525
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 2: can depend on EMMITTT. Smith to take a dump on

526
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 2: the other opposing team defense. Yes, on the defense.

527
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 1: It's pretty crazy. He did that whole polka doont like

528
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 1: overall outfit back in the day when guys would always

529
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 1: wear suit and tie. Like to think about it now,

530
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 1: like that's how everyone dresses now. Everyone dresses like it's

531
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: a fucking runway before the game to get your shot,

532
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: to show that you're cool, your style, this, you're that.

533
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: And Emmitt Smith was like a pie near in that.

534
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: Look at that fucking alfie. That's kind of fire. Would

535
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: you wear that, rob if it was Halloween? What was

536
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 1: your game day? What was your game day outfit? My

537
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: game day outfit? Man? You know me?

538
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 2: I was a shortened T shirt guy. Every single week

539
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 2: that was all free T shirt, free shorts, free sandals.

540
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 2: I was showing up every game like that guy.

541
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: Wore Jordan sandals nine years that I've known him, the

542
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: same pair in the locker room. That's what he roll

543
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: up in just like this. He look exactly how he

544
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: was dressed right now, just like this, because this is

545
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: all free stuff. And he'd roll up the shirt he

546
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 1: roll up in the game that you'd see him. You

547
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 1: see him in the cafeteria, grab some food and grab

548
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: a couple of pev and JS, and I'm good, and

549
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: then he's good, just thankful for it. Just the basics, Jules,

550
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,479
Speaker 1: I don't think I've I think I've come across Emmett

551
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: at a like a banquet or a function, or a

552
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 1: charity event or some event Emmys. Smitch just looks like

553
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 1: happy and cool and rich anytime I see him. He's

554
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 1: got a great smile, he has an age. He looks

555
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: exactly the same as he did in high school. I

556
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: don't think he's got the hair anymore, but salt and

557
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 1: pepper beer. I mean, my guy could cut a rug too.

558
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: Emmitt Smith actually won Dancing with the Stars. Does Dola

559
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 1: win Dancing with Stars? Like Emma Smith? Right now, this

560
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: is after Dancing with the Stars. Did Danny win? Wait,

561
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: this is after we don't know if Danny went, But

562
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,959
Speaker 1: right now we can imaginary think that like if he

563
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 1: if he wins, and you say he won right now,

564
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 1: then we'll look like genius says, But if we say

565
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 1: he didn't he won and he didn't win, then we'll

566
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: look like morons.

567
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 2: I think Danny is gonna win Dancing with the Stars.

568
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: You think Danny?

569
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 3: No, he won, Dan, Danny won Dancing with the Stars.

570
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 3: Fucking let's go Dola shout out time. What kind of

571
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 3: dude is Emmitt Smith? I would say on three one

572
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 3: two three, DoD.

573
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: I mean he was relentless man. I mean like dogs,

574
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 2: dogs get hurt and they don't care one bit. They

575
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 2: just keep on going. Imm Smith just kept going.

576
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: He's a crazy stud. Because you think about it, when

577
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: you think of that generation, like when I think a dog,

578
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: I think of someone who like he won every year.

579
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: He didn't have to have to be a dog like

580
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: he was the pedigree. Everyone knew. He was the guy,

581
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: one of the faces of the Dallas Cowboys, which was

582
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 1: America's team. He had the pedigree. He went on Dancing

583
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: with the Stars. He won Dancing with the Stars. You're

584
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: telling me, dogs go out there and win some Dancing

585
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: with the Stars.

586
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 2: No, dogs don't go out and win Dancing with the Stars, Studs.

587
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: Do dogs go out there and Dancing with the Stars

588
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: and lose the first round.

589
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: Because they're just so happy to be there and they're just.

590
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 2: Roughing around and they can't figure out what to do

591
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 2: because they do it. They do it at one hundred

592
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 2: miles per hour and going out there and just being

593
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 2: so careless and running over everything in.

594
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: Sight, motivated to win, but yet know how to do it. Yeah.

595
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: So then I just talked to you. I talked to

596
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 1: you and talked.

597
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 2: Me into it. To us, he's a stud.

598
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: Stud stamp it. We'll be right back after this quick break,

599
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: all right.

600
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 2: Next, who we got Jules. We've already talked about him

601
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 2: a little bit. One of the greatest running backs of

602
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 2: all time, plaid for the other team that played on Thanksgiving.

603
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: Not America's team, A team, America's team. Now it could

604
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 1: be could could be America's team now, yes, up.

605
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: Near Canada, could be Canada's team. It could be America's

606
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 2: Upper States team. Yeah, Midwest, those type of states.

607
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: So let's get on Barry South.

608
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 2: Let's go, let's go, let's see, let's see what AI

609
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 2: has to say about him. Barry Sanders, at five foot

610
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 2: eight and weighing two hundred pounds, played as running back

611
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: for the Detroit Lions. Haling from Wishita, Kansas, Sanders burst

612
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 2: onto the scene at Oklahoma State University, where he set

613
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 2: multiple records and won the Heisman Trophy in nineteen eighty eight.

614
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 2: Drafted third overall nineteen eighty nine, he became known for

615
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 2: his electrifying agility, elusive footwork, and explosive speed, making him

616
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 2: one of the most thrilling players in the league's history.

617
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 2: He surprised many by retiring at the age of thirty

618
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 2: one in nineteen ninety nine. Is it that big of

619
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 2: a surprise. I mean, I retired when I was twenty

620
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 2: nine years old, like he was in his thirties, But

621
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 2: he must have been that good still.

622
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: It surprised everybody. I meant to put in perspective. He

623
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: won Offensive Player of the Year in ninety seven, retired two

624
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: years later.

625
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 2: Over his career, he amassed fifteen two hundred and sixty

626
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 2: nine rushing yards in ninety nine touchdowns, earning ten Pro

627
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 2: Bowl selections, the nineteen ninety seven MVP Award in a

628
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: place in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Jesus, what

629
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 2: is the first thing that you think of when you

630
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 2: hear the name Barry Sanders?

631
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: Jewels my childhood, if you made a crazy like cutback play,

632
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: or you made someone juked out, you juked someone out

633
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: of their jock or something, and it was just like

634
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: you were doing a Barry play. Like that's Barry Sanders

635
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: made Detroit relevant and like only went to the playoffs

636
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: like twice or three times in his career. Instantly think

637
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: of the plays where like he has four guys draping

638
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: on him and then he jukes like two guys and

639
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: then a guy thinks he's down and thinks he plays

640
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: over and he's still running on the other side. Barry

641
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: Sanders was so electric. I think Barry Sanders would not

642
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: like he would be even crazier in this generation. That's

643
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: how good he was. What do you think of when

644
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: you think about Barry Sanders.

645
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 2: I think about Ford Ford vehicles, I really do, man,

646
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 2: and he was all the vehicles.

647
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: Combined in one. I mean, that's actually not bad with Yeah,

648
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: he was.

649
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 2: He wasn't the size of an expedition, but he played

650
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 2: like he was an expedition. He was like an explorer

651
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 2: that had like a V eight engine from one of

652
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 2: the cars that they you know, from the Ford Mustang. Yeah,

653
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: and he had like monster truck tires, like the big

654
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 2: wheels like from a Ford raptor F one fifty.

655
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: So this guy basically could do it.

656
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 2: All out of the backfield. I mean he could, you know,

657
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: catch a ball. Obviously he could run. He was so elosive.

658
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 2: He made guys fall face first. You know, it's so

659
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 2: imagine that being a defender. You're a professional defender as

660
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 2: a linebacker, a safety, and you go to tackle somebody

661
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: and you totally miss and fall directly on your face.

662
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 2: That's what Barry Sanders did to these folks.

663
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: You know, I just want to I want you to

664
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: describe Barry Sanders as like a Ford model. Make color

665
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: INTI your exterior INJA like Barry Sanders. What color car

666
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: is he?

667
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: Barry Sanders would be the grayish color white gray.

668
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: Take a bullet like a silver bullet.

669
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I like that, Yeah, silver bullet. But like

670
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 2: love by everyone. You know, Gray's loved by everyone, it

671
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: really is. You can't hate on gray.

672
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: What about what's the interior?

673
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: The interior have to be something flashy?

674
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: Why flashy?

675
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: Because he was flashy on the field.

676
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: So like a red leather, No, it would be it.

677
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 2: Wouldn't be red, it'd be it would be blue, a

678
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 2: blue ray lions color blue leather.

679
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: Gray and blue. Do we got a sunroof? No sunroof?

680
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: It's a coop because we're dirty. We get down the business.

681
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 2: We don't need a sunroof.

682
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: V V eight is like a shell dog.

683
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 2: And then we got Ford Raptor tires, but we also

684
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: have they're also on like twenty two inch rims, so

685
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: we can be you know, run over a folk when

686
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 2: we need to, and we can just but still.

687
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: Get out of this when we needed to.

688
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 2: Any racetripes, just just one, just one solid one that

689
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 2: goes away.

690
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: What color is that race stripe? That's black? What's the

691
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: licensed plate number? Twenty twenty?

692
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: Because he has twenty twenty vision as well.

693
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: Out in the football, this joker did have great fucking vision.

694
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: He probably had mostly vision in the history of the game.

695
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: I want to see this car. We're gonna have to

696
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: make this car up buying prints lying.

697
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: Prince Oklahoma, Oklahoma state mascot.

698
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: What is that the guns? Yeah, cowboys, cowboy guns.

699
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: Carr's badass and I'm not even a car guy, and

700
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 2: I just I just built my my first car ever.

701
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 2: He spected three hundred and twenty thousand dollars right there?

702
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: Could that car win the Daytona five hundred percent? Winning

703
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: the Daytona five hundred a year and a year out

704
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: every time, every single time he didn't win a Super Bowl.

705
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: What if he's just the fastest car on the on

706
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: the block, but someone then they go, you got me here,

707
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: Then they smith car and they win the super Bowl.

708
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: He never won a super Bowl.

709
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 2: So oh man, you're right, he's not winning the Daytona

710
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: five hundred. He's getting suckingd third place every single time.

711
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: Or he's probably crashing like he's winning the race by

712
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: like three laps.

713
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 2: He had a bad he had. It wasn't him that

714
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: lost the race. He had a bad you know when

715
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: you go in for the pit stop. Yeah, he had

716
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 2: a bad crew around him. Every time it took like

717
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: how long does it take in a pit stop usually

718
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 2: in Nascar, I.

719
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: Mean we're talking standard, probably thirty eight seconds.

720
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well it took his team like a minute

721
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 2: twenty every single time minute. He just had a back

722
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 2: you know, bag pit crew, bad pit crew, bad team

723
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: around him.

724
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: His measurables. This guy ran four to three or forty

725
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: four inch vert so you know, Barry Sanders is dunking

726
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: at five eight and twenty seven reps at the bench.

727
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: The one of the funniest quotes that I always think

728
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: of when I think of Barry Sanders. I watched the

729
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: documentary with his dad. They asked him, mister Sanders, who

730
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: do you think the best running backs of all time?

731
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, Jim Brown, myself, and then my son.

732
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: He would never give his son the two spot behind it.

733
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 1: That's crazy. I love his dad was so tough on him.

734
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: I love it. So I knew about that.

735
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: Actually, you told me that before we were going to

736
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 2: talk about Barry Sanders.

737
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,479
Speaker 1: So what did I do? I went and called your dad.

738
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: What he said, Frank Addleman, Frank Nuts the nuthouse, Papa

739
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 2: Frank himself. He ranked his you know, top three slot

740
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: receivers number one. That's why I love Frank. And this

741
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: is when you know he truly loves you, Jewels, because

742
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: you're number one, and I don't argue with that. I

743
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 2: don't argue with that. You know, Frank's on top of

744
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 2: his game. Number two Wes Welker and number three Dola.

745
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 2: I don't know where he got Dola from at number three,

746
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 2: but you got admit, he's loyal. He's loyal to his

747
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 2: son and he's loyal to his son's friends. Mm hmm.

748
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: Oh.

749
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 2: He also ranked his top his top three tight ends.

750
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, he ranked the top tight ends. He goes number three,

751
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: Mark Bavaro. Mm hmm monster.

752
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 2: I would say Mike Bavarro from just stories I've heard

753
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 2: from players that played against him that he was the

754
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 2: strongest tight.

755
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 1: End ever in history.

756
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 2: I've heard that too, Yes, Like he would take defensive

757
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: aasan linebackers and just lock him up right in the

758
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: spot and not let them move.

759
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: He was just that strong. His grip was through the roof,

760
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: they said.

761
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 2: And I'm talking like players that played against him or

762
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: freaks of nature. And they said, Mike Bavaro would dominate

763
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 2: every single time.

764
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: So what if you guys grab each other? Who who

765
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: Mike Bovaro would? I don't know. He's stronger than me, Okay,

766
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: I don't think so. And then number two on my

767
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: dad's list was Kelsey and then one of course was

768
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: Gronk and.

769
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 2: I love you, Frank Nuts you got you got a

770
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 2: wonderful dad, great dad.

771
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: I like dal Nut House Papa, though edel Nut House Papa.

772
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: I like it all right. What was what was Barry Sanders'

773
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: best Turkey days? He was He had ten games on

774
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: Turkey Day seven and three record winning record. Barry Sanders

775
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: loved Thanksgiving.

776
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 2: Sucking all time in Russian yards behind given behind.

777
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm at Smith, behind Emmitt Smith.

778
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 2: His two hundred and ton carries on Thanksgiving Day for

779
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 2: nine hundred and thirty one yards. He just couldn't break

780
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: that thousand yard mark on Thanksgiving. That's tough.

781
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: He should have came back just for that, right, yes, for.

782
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: That, just to say he had over a thousand yards

783
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: on Thanksgiving.

784
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: We're talking about moments in his career, but him retiring

785
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: at such a young age, and he was like, I

786
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: think he was a season away from being the all

787
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: time leader. At his retiring date, he was like, if

788
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: he would have played that last season, he would have

789
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,959
Speaker 1: beat the record, and he just walked away. He didn't

790
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: really care about the records. He just wanted to win.

791
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 1: I think he got beat down from losing. You know that.

792
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: He doesn't say that in any of his documentaries or all.

793
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: You know, you watch his interviews, but I mean, if

794
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: you if you go out for a long time and

795
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: you're dominating and you you're losing every year, that's going

796
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: to take a toll. It shows kind of player he was.

797
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: You know, he loved football as a game, not for

798
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: an individual statistics. I mean there's a these stories of

799
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones two three years later going to him and say, hey, man,

800
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: you sure you don't want to come play for the

801
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 1: Cowboys or something. I've heard that a couple of times too.

802
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: As a player, you want to always tough it out. Yeah,

803
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 2: you never want to show that you're weak. The second

804
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 2: you show that you're weak, you've kind of beat In

805
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 2: the NFL, you got to always have that standard set,

806
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 2: that bar set, that nothing's gonna take you down. And

807
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 2: the second that you let that go and you let

808
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 2: things take you down, you're not gonna be able to perform.

809
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: You're gonna get out worked, you're gonna get ran over.

810
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: The other guy's gonna beat the crap out of you.

811
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 2: So that mindset always has to be there. And if

812
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 2: you get beat down, even though you look like the

813
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: best player on the field, it's gonna come back and

814
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 2: haunt you in the end. I've been through that situation before.

815
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 2: I bet you've been through it the end of your

816
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 2: career as well, where you just kept taking beatings, injuries.

817
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: You're trying to play through a knee, a forearm, whatever

818
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 2: it is, and then finally you're like, man, I can't take.

819
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 1: This no more.

820
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: And I feel like that's kind of what happened to

821
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 2: Barry Sanders. I mean, yeah, he was the greatest of

822
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: all time, one of them. He looked unbelievable out there

823
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: on the field, but he was always losing, always taking

824
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: a beating. You just don't know what these NFL guys

825
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 2: are going through at all times, you really don't.

826
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: He still hasn't let anyone know why he retired, like

827
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: he kind of has. I mean, he was fourteen hundred

828
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: yards away from the old time rushing record that Emmitt

829
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: Smith went to then beat three or four years later.

830
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: A couple of years.

831
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: Later, he did talk about it a little bit when

832
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 2: he retired, that the passion wasn't there for him anymore.

833
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 2: If you don't have that passion, which can attribute to

834
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 2: just always getting beat down not winning, there's no reason

835
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 2: to be out there on the football field. It's not

836
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 2: good for the fans, it's not good for yourself, it's

837
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 2: not good for the organization.

838
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: He's just kind of basically.

839
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 2: Said there was nothing left to really play for, and

840
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 2: he didn't really see the Detroit Lions being a Super

841
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 2: Bowl contender either. Yeah, and if they were, if the

842
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: Lions were truly going to be a Super Bowl contender,

843
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 2: I feel like that would have gave him the passion,

844
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 2: the influence that he needed to go back out there

845
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 2: and because that's all he truly doesn't have is a

846
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: Super Bowl ring.

847
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you remember when the passion left for you?

848
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 2: I do. I mean I was beat down. It was

849
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 2: my last year. I mean, we won the Super Bowl

850
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: when I was on the New England Patriots, when we

851
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 2: beat the Rams, and I went into the playoffs knowing

852
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 2: that I was going to retire. Dude, I mean, this

853
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: is the year. The pounding on my body, all the

854
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 2: injuries were flaring up. I was running slow.

855
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: Especially.

856
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 2: The passion definitely decreases for the game of football when

857
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 2: you start losing your skill set because it's not as

858
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 2: fun anymore. When you can't just run by someone or

859
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 2: just throw someone around. It's not fun when you're the

860
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 2: one getting thrown around and the guys on you like

861
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 2: white on rice when you're trying to run a route.

862
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 2: So it was like that year. But I was just

863
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: putting the team first and I knew, you know, I

864
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 2: could come through in the times that I needed to

865
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: come through for the team, and we ended up putting

866
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 2: in to the Super Bowl, So it couldn't have worked

867
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 2: out any better. But winning that Super Bowl, it was

868
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: just kind of a relief that the game was over. Yeah,

869
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 2: but I got that passion back when I took a

870
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 2: year off, and then it kind of started fading away again,

871
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 2: you know, my second year in Tampa. You know, that's

872
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 2: when I knew that it was probably, you know, time

873
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 2: to hang out up again.

874
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that's that's kind of how my mine went

875
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: down as well. When I was in practice and guys

876
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: that I should be dominating were coming close to covering me.

877
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, it's I have to work way

878
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: too hard to and it hurts way too much. Yeah,

879
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: you're you're not doing it if we weren't winning at

880
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: that time, so I could. I you know, it's hard

881
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 1: to be in pain while you're losing and have to

882
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: go perform.

883
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 2: That's why I'm thankful for all the good times when

884
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 2: we're in our mid twenties, Jewels. Yeah, like when everything

885
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 2: was just always feeling like looking like just always feeling good. Yeah,

886
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 2: you're just activated from head to toe. Just your running

887
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 2: form was just always on point. It was like it

888
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 2: was easy. You're just felt like you're going through the motions,

889
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 2: even though you were going full speed and running by people. Man,

890
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 2: those were the days. Thankful for those days as a player.

891
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 1: It's young, dumb and full of yes.

892
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 2: Yes, the best, the best days for you.

893
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: You wake up and you can sprint thirty hundred and

894
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 1: without even warming up, without even warming up, He'll bop

895
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: someone in the one on ones. Take it to team,

896
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 1: come lay the wood on, forced down in the box. Safety.

897
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 2: What about Barry Sanders in college too? Man, he was

898
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 2: one of the best college football players to ever.

899
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 1: He was fucking unreal.

900
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 2: He won the Heisman most rushing yards in the season

901
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: over twenty six hundred yards.

902
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: I mean, and his dad hated Oklahoma State because he

903
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: was an Oklahoma Suitors fan. I'm so infatuated with that story.

904
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 2: That's that's why he'll never put his son in front

905
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 2: of him running back in the end.

906
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: I bet it's crazy, but I think that's what drove Barry.

907
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: You know, he wanted his dad satisfaction, and maybe his

908
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: dad knew that the dads always know us the.

909
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 2: Best, the greatest, fine fuel and the the titious things.

910
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: Man like the titious things. What's that word I'm looking for? Tedious?

911
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 2: Titious, tedious, tedious. I like titious things, you know. I

912
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 2: just like what I said. That's why that was on

913
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: my and I like not gonna say the word, you know,

914
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 2: the first part of it, only because tedious we're appropriate show,

915
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 2: but tits titious is always on my mind for some reason. Titious, though,

916
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: is what the word I was reading going for, tedious.

917
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 2: So the greatest dude find you know that motivation. For example,

918
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: say if you just said something that I didn't like

919
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 2: in the locker room that day, and I would just

920
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 2: go out in the field and I would be like

921
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 2: a f this guy, Jules, I'm gonna make sure I'm

922
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 2: open every single freaking play so he doesn't get a pass.

923
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: So I can go back in the locker room and

924
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: be like.

925
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 2: Great, day to day you had, Jules, you had zero

926
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: catches I attend just because you said something that was

927
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 2: fed up to me in the morning. That That's what

928
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: I'm talking about. Just finding those tedious moments makes people great.

929
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 2: Just finding that motivation for absolutely no reason that shouldn't

930
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 2: even be motivation, just so you can go out there

931
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: and just drive yourself to another level. It's like coach

932
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: saying something you three days ago in a meeting that

933
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 2: you don't like, and you're gonna go out there and

934
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:03,720
Speaker 2: prove the him that he was wrong.

935
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 1: Barry Barry Sanders was titious.

936
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: Yes he was, hopefully we thank you was. I never

937
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 2: met Barry before, never talked to him about this, but

938
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: we're going. I mean, he was the greatest of all time.

939
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 2: He had to find motivation somehow every single time.

940
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: One of the great showdowns on Monday Night Football that

941
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: I still remember was the Barry Verse emit game. We

942
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: haven't done it on games and names. Need to do

943
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: it on games and names. But it was Week four

944
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: and the ninety four season Monday Night Football. Cowboys hosted

945
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: the Lions and Detroit went up into Cowboy Land, Jerry

946
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: World old Jerry World at that time, and won twenty

947
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: seventeen in overtime. Emmett what a fucking duel. Listen to

948
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: his stat lines. Between the two best running backs in

949
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: the league in the primes of their career. Emmett smid

950
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: twenty nine carries one hundred and forty three yards in

951
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,280
Speaker 1: a tug. Barry had to out duel him with forty

952
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: carries one hundred and ninety four yards and one touchdown.

953
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: Epic battle between these freaking running backs. That was like

954
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: a playoff game intensity, the closest you can get the

955
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: playoff intensity. And it was because it was Emmitt Smith

956
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: versus fucking Barry Sanders. It was such a crazy match.

957
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: You remember that game. They were really young though. I

958
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: know I remember that game a little bit because I

959
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: was a little bit older than me. This was in

960
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: ninety four. This was my first year of football.

961
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't remember. This was my I was five

962
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 2: years old.

963
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: I was eight years old.

964
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 2: Like, what made the Detroit Lions like not good during

965
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 2: that era? Because they had Barry Sanders? What made them

966
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 2: not good? Bad?

967
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: Offensive line? Bad? Like did they have more? What was it?

968
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 2: What was the reason why they weren't good?

969
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: Jeles You need a quarterback? No quarterback, no quarterback. And

970
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: they went through a lot of coaches, I think, and

971
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: they got through a lot of coaches. I don't know.

972
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: He deserved better, He deserved I mean guys that deserved.

973
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: I mean, thankful for Barry. Everyone's thankful for Barry Thanksgiving episode.

974
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: Truly deserves better. So who's on the mount rushmore running

975
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: back four four running backs top four of all time.

976
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 2: O man, I mean, you gotta put those two in

977
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 2: that category.

978
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: Jim Brown's got to be in there. Jim Brown.

979
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: Then I'm gonna go with Adrian Peterson as my fourth.

980
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: What about Walter Payton? I know, but he's before your time,

981
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 1: He is before my time.

982
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't really know too much about Walter Payon.

983
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch's Shawn Lynch. I mean, but is he great

984
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: all the time? No, he's not. He's not. He's not

985
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: on Mount Rushmore now Mount Rushmore.

986
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 2: He's one of the greatest known running backs of all time.

987
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 2: I want to rebut personalities of all time too.

988
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 1: Do you remember Bill always talking about Jim Brown and

989
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: how like dominant he was. If we'd be talking, he'd

990
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: hear us talking to the locker room about sunning. He goes,

991
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: do you guys see Jim Brown fucking dominant? Like he

992
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,919
Speaker 1: was just a man child. All old timers love Jim

993
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: Brown like that's their guy. We didn't get to watch

994
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: him in the flesh, so like he don't get to

995
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: appreciate him. But you gotta put him on there. I

996
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 1: think he's on there. Tomlinson Lt. Lt.

997
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard to do a mount Rushmore of

998
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 2: running back Marshall Falk. Oh Man Rushow Falk was so good.

999
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go this. My mount Rushmore would go Jim Brown,

1000
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, Marshall Falk, Marshall Falk being the

1001
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 1: fourth because he's like that, the tweener, the new generation

1002
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: running back where this guy could catch a hundred fucking

1003
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 1: balls and rush for a thousand yards in the same season,

1004
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: which I think he did. There was Bo Jackson, Thurman

1005
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: he didn't, he didn't have enough. Thrman Thomas was a monster.

1006
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: Earl Campbell, Eric Dickerson, Slate would be mad at us

1007
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 1: slad Gals. He didn't. He didn't have a long career though.

1008
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 2: There's so many, man, that's tough to do a mount Rushmore.

1009
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Barry was behind Thurman Thomas at Oklahoma State.

1010
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State had some running backs. How about that running

1011
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: back room in college? Derman Thomas, Barry Sanders. They went

1012
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: natty that year. Are you not in the National Championship

1013
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: with those two guys. The saddest stat of Barry's career, though,

1014
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 1: is that he only played in six playoff games.

1015
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 2: It is sad, that's crazy. Everyone loves Barry Sanders. Everyone

1016
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 2: wanted to see his career just keep on going ten minutes.

1017
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 2: What kind of dude is Barry Sanders?

1018
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: M freak? No one is ever like when you watch

1019
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: him move, No one's ever moved like Barry Sanders.

1020
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,479
Speaker 2: Just so elusive. And it's like a slinky out there.

1021
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 2: He's like a little slinky down the stairs, just boom boom,

1022
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 2: and the slinky is just turning and flipping which way.

1023
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 1: And direction, always always on, that.

1024
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 2: Always lands right back on on, you know, in position

1025
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 2: right on his feet at the bottom of the stairs.

1026
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,720
Speaker 2: That's Barry Sanders for you. I mean, that's some freaky

1027
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 2: ability right there.

1028
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 1: I bet you he was a crazy positive dude. The

1029
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: dude dude too in the locker room. I bet you

1030
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 1: was super cool. He's probably like sweet feet, super quiet,

1031
00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: James White, quiet, just professional. But he's also fucking dog

1032
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: where he didn't have I mean, he didn't have an

1033
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 1: offensive line for like half his career and he still

1034
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: had the numbers he had on three you sed eight

1035
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: years one two three. Dog. He's a freak man. Gotta

1036
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 1: go freak, You gotta go freak.

1037
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: His physical ability of just being able to bend the

1038
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 2: way he bends and just a vision that he has

1039
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 2: one on one instinct. He was not getting tackled. People

1040
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 2: were falling headfirst into the ground. Like I said earlier,

1041
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 2: you just never seen it. He was making people look

1042
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 2: silly like they didn't belong out there. It was like

1043
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 2: pop one. Or when the guy's just that much better

1044
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 2: than everyone else and just running around the field and

1045
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: they could be all twelve eleven guys on the field

1046
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 2: in front of him and he can make all eleven miss.

1047
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 2: That's freaky instincts right there.

1048
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 1: Yeah. But when you see Barry Sanders in clothes or

1049
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: do you look at him like me and that guy's

1050
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: a freak. No you don't.

1051
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 2: But we're categorizing freak in that way only then, is

1052
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,919
Speaker 2: if how you see someone he is a one of one,

1053
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 2: exactly one of one's a freaks. He was just a

1054
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 2: freak out at a lower level of physical stature.

1055
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: He reminds me of a little race cars on the

1056
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: electric tracks where he could just start stop, start stop

1057
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: start stop. Hella fast, all right, Stave, But he's a

1058
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: free he's a freak. Let's go, let's get on. Vince

1059
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: will Fork big dog, Vince well four big v Oh

1060
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 1: my god, I wonder.

1061
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 2: Why something thanks something the Black Thanksgiving is his favorite holiday.

1062
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: I bet start the clock. What's hey? I gotta say,

1063
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: Vince well Fork stand.

1064
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 2: He had six foot two and weighing around three hundred

1065
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: and twenty five pounds. Played as a dominant nose tackle

1066
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: in the NFL three primarily I think he was like

1067
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 2: three fifty at one point sixty. Primarily played for the

1068
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 2: New England Patriots and later for the Houston Texans. Growing

1069
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 2: up in boy Town Beach, Florida, I think so Boyton, Boyton,

1070
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 2: boy Tom Beach, Florida, well Fork was a track and

1071
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 2: field stand out before switching to football at the University

1072
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 2: of Miami, select the twenty first overall in the two

1073
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 2: thousand and four draft, he was known for his strength, size,

1074
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 2: and ability to stuff the run, often drawing double teams

1075
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 2: and anchoring defenses with his power and skill. Over his career,

1076
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 2: will Fork recorded five hundred and sixty tackles, sixteen sacks,

1077
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 2: and three interceptions, earning two Super Bowl championships five Pro

1078
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 2: Bowl selections in a reputation as one of the best

1079
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 2: defense tackles of his era. Known for his charisma and

1080
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 2: a love for barbecue. He has remained a beloved figure

1081
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 2: off the field, where he's big personality and big hits

1082
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 2: made him a fan favorite. That's a lot by Ai.

1083
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 2: The long synopsis. That's the longest one we had so far.

1084
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 2: But Vince deserves it. Yeah, deserves it. He's the biggest

1085
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 2: guy so far we've been talking about. He's about three

1086
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty five pounds. I think they got it

1087
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 2: got it wrong there. This guy can eat you up.

1088
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: Man.

1089
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 2: He's lost a lot of weight now, he sure has.

1090
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 2: He looks really good, man, He really good. It looks

1091
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 2: good on him. It's just sad that you know he's

1092
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 2: not coming back though, you know, because every good player

1093
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,439
Speaker 2: you always have that imagination that they're going to come back.

1094
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: He always thought Ve can. I think ve can still play.

1095
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,439
Speaker 1: You just have that thought about them. What's the first

1096
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: thing that comes to your mind when you think about

1097
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: Big v The barbecues.

1098
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 2: You know, he came out with his own barbecue sauce.

1099
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure mister Kraft used to have that team

1100
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 2: get together, team bonding at his house in the Cape.

1101
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 2: After you made the team. It was right at the

1102
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 2: end of August. What howadays at right the end of August,

1103
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 2: Labor Day, Yeah, Labor Day, yep, And it was Labor

1104
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 2: Day week and we would all go up there and

1105
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 2: it'd be ribs or be you know, steaks, and then

1106
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 2: here comes Big V coming through and he brings his

1107
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 2: own barbecue sauce every single year. And I wouldn't eat

1108
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 2: those ribs or the soar line or you know, the

1109
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,879
Speaker 2: burger meat until that barbecue sauce got there. And once

1110
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: Big V showed up, Hey, Big V passed that sauce over.

1111
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 1: Buddy.

1112
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 2: He loved it too, man, He loved being known about

1113
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:55,240
Speaker 2: that sauce. And he just loved just the atmosphere around

1114
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 2: a cookout.

1115
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: For I was fortunate enough to get invited to one

1116
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: of his cookouts. He smokes some real ribs. He was

1117
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: into some big ass overalls with no shirt smoking ribs.

1118
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 1: He just looks at home when he's on a barbecue.

1119
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: He looks like that's he's at home. The first I

1120
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: remember when I was a rookie. He's comfortable. That's just

1121
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 1: comfort zone for him. It is I arber my rookie year.

1122
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: My welcome to the NFL moment was like I was

1123
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: rolling in like my my Toyota rental, and I park

1124
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: it in the way back of the players a lot,

1125
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, there's this fucking huge semi

1126
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: a fucking semi truck rolls in and parks up right

1127
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: in the front and takes like two damn spots backs

1128
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 1: in backs in this big ass orange semi truck. It's

1129
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: fucking Vince's daily driver. Vince had like a huge semi

1130
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: truck daily driver. He gets out of thinking and it

1131
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: looked just like him in front of the barbecue, just

1132
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: a comfort zone for him. Just a big ass dude

1133
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: getting out of a big ass truck. Big v was

1134
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: just fucking so cool. That was like my first welcome bed.

1135
00:52:58,239 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: I was like, holy shit, I don't even know you

1136
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: could buy some my trucks.

1137
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of welcome to the NFL, he gave me

1138
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 2: my Welcome to the NFL dosage of a hit training

1139
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 2: camp rookie year.

1140
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: You know the wham block explained.

1141
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 2: Where they let go the guy let go, let's the

1142
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 2: just defensive tackle free, so then he thinks he's gonna

1143
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 2: go get a sack. And then the wam block is

1144
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 2: when I come across the line of scrimmage at the

1145
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 2: tight end position when I'm off the ball and I'm

1146
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 2: the one that goes and I wham the defensive tackle

1147
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 2: and try.

1148
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: To block on a trap for this tight end.

1149
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 2: There you go exactly and we're trapping the defensive tackle,

1150
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 2: so he knows it's coming. I mean, this is a

1151
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 2: specialty play that the New England Patriots been running.

1152
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: They know the fucking script well well before me. Yeah

1153
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: it is.

1154
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 2: It was it was at nine nine seven, So yeah,

1155
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 2: the defense does know the script so they can look

1156
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 2: really good in the run game throughout that whole period.

1157
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 2: And I think they also told him this play was coming,

1158
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 2: uh being specifically knowing I'm on to black Vince, and

1159
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 2: they wanted to see my toughness as a rookie. So

1160
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 2: the play call, I'm in full pass. You know, I'm

1161
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 2: a a wam block. I gotta show my toughness. I

1162
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 2: gotta show my keeps. I gotta get the respect of

1163
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 2: my fellow teammates, especially the veterans.

1164
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: Wait, let me paint the picture. Also, Rob's a rookie here.

1165
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: VI was like the big dog on campus. In practice.

1166
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: No one really gets close to him because you don't

1167
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 1: want to piss him off when you're new, you know,

1168
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: He's like, holy shit, is that a that is a

1169
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: large human being. He's like so big, I think there's

1170
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 1: like something that orbits him, like on how round he

1171
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: is like that's you didn't want to get in his way.

1172
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: You didn't want to piss him off because he was

1173
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: very intimidating. Get back to your story.

1174
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 2: So the play, you know, gets on its way. I

1175
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 2: do my little to you know, two side steps, you know,

1176
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 2: on the motion. I'm running full speed right at Vince Welford.

1177
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:50,760
Speaker 2: This guy peeks over to his left, he sees me coming.

1178
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 2: He has this grin on his face. Knowing I was coming,

1179
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 2: he put his shoulder down. I'm going full speed at him,

1180
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 2: and he gets that leverage and just tease off on me.

1181
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:06,919
Speaker 2: I went flying backwards five to six yards. I didn't

1182
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 2: even land on my back. He sent me flying in

1183
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 2: the air where I landed on my feet.

1184
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: Still, Oh my god.

1185
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that hit hurt like a mother effort. But

1186
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 2: what's cool is I gained the respect to my teammates

1187
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 2: and my coach at that time, tight end coach, in

1188
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 2: that meeting that day when we went and reviewed.

1189
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: The Planarents Brian Farrens. Love you, Brian Farrenc.

1190
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 2: He's now at Iowa with his dad doing, you know,

1191
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 2: doing his thing, doing a good job. He goes, yo,

1192
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 2: what were you thinking trying to block Vince wolffor he goes,

1193
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 2: You're never going to do that again. I go, thank you,

1194
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 2: thank you. I go, I'll never do it again. And

1195
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 2: ever since that day, you know, we had about five

1196
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 2: more of those calls, and I just go up to him,

1197
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 2: I hug him. I didn't need to try to block him.

1198
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 2: It was just only going to get me hurt from

1199
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 2: there on out. Yeah, I just give him a hug

1200
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 2: like Vince. Nah, No, it's the way I'm block.

1201
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: Man.

1202
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 2: I know you're going to beat me, like, there's there's

1203
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 2: no reason to go through this motion of me getting

1204
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 2: thrown backwards again. Oh my, I'm gonna break a rib.

1205
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 2: He's so, he's so you love your ribs, and you're

1206
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 2: gonna you know, you'll probably eat him and join him

1207
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 2: after with your barbecue sauce body.

1208
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: Oh my, that had to be so terrifying.

1209
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 2: It was well at that time, it was he's.

1210
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: An intimidating guy when you joined the team to.

1211
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 2: Terrifying after that because I was trying to, you know,

1212
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 2: gainer my keeps man like. I was trying to prove myself,

1213
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 2: so I didn't care who was in my way. And

1214
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 2: then I learned, I do care who's in my way.

1215
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1216
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 2: When when it comes down to the NFL, you gotta

1217
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 2: That's when you learned on when to, you know, take

1218
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 2: your shots at someone and when not to, when to

1219
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 2: block someone hard, when to kind of like just box

1220
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 2: someone out as well, instead of trying to hit him

1221
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 2: full speak and you hit him full speed, heads up.

1222
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 2: They you know, they're way bigger than you. This is

1223
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 2: when you start learning the ins and outs. And that's

1224
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 2: one ins and out. I learned big time.

1225
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: Freaking v And he was so quick too, Like that's

1226
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 1: what people don't realize, like they just surprisingly.

1227
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 2: Quick because of how big he was and his feet.

1228
00:56:58,080 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 2: You had fast feet, man. He was kind of like

1229
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 2: a running back that pitter patters, Like whoa big burp

1230
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 2: right there, Juels. Wow was the barbecue I ate from

1231
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 2: five years ago with big vans and still out we

1232
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 2: ate that much. I tasted that barbecue sauce right there.

1233
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: That was good.

1234
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 2: His feet were surprisingly click. He was like a boom.

1235
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 2: He was a rabbit out there.

1236
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: I remember always going in the weight room and you

1237
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: go over by like the kettlebells and like the arm

1238
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: bars and stuff, and there'd always be a shock put there.

1239
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: Remember him. You ever see him shotput? And I never have.

1240
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he can fucking shock. He was a

1241
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: fucking track star. I think he had like the state record.

1242
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: He had insane strength too.

1243
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 2: I remember like he wouldn't go in the weight room

1244
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 2: to just like warm up, you know, do three fifteen

1245
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 2: like five. He would just go in the weight room

1246
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 2: just to you know, maintain his strength. And he would

1247
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 2: just walk in and I remember him just throwing up

1248
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 2: like four hundred and twenty five pounds in the bench

1249
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 2: and just tossing it up then racking it and be

1250
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 2: like I'm done for today. Yeah, Like he didn't even

1251
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 2: need to work on his strength that much because he

1252
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 2: was just that strong naturally, and like it was to

1253
00:57:58,800 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 2: a whole nother level.

1254
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: I remember seeing him in the weight room too. He

1255
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: like Marcus Cannon, when he would work out, the weights

1256
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: would bend. He was just so strong and he had

1257
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: always great movement, like he was very he was very skillful,

1258
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: like fluid fluid, like when you watch Big V throw football.

1259
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: He looks like like he spins the ball really well.

1260
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: You see him hit a golf ball. He fucking has

1261
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: an unbelievable golf swing. I mean, the guy is so athletic.

1262
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: He used to return punts in high school. Like I remember,

1263
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: you know, Bill, Always every training camp when it's getting

1264
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: to like day nine ten, guys are worn down, beat

1265
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,479
Speaker 1: up mentally, physically, emotionally exhausted. He'd always have a big

1266
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: lineman come in and try to catch a punt, and

1267
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 1: if you caught punch, you'd have the night off. He

1268
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 1: threw v up there and it looked too fucking easy.

1269
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: I think he won and snacked that thing was.

1270
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 2: It was so athletic. He could have played full back.

1271
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 2: I swear he could play run and it gets gained

1272
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 2: some yards before going down tight end. He could definitely

1273
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 2: play I heard him talking about this too as well.

1274
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 2: He could play defensive end obviously, anywhere on the defensive line.

1275
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 2: And he, like you said, quarterback as well.

1276
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: He had an arm.

1277
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 2: He loved being you know, before practice was going on,

1278
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 2: you know, before we get really got into it, he

1279
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 2: be chucking the ball, you know, to to his fellow

1280
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 2: defensive players. Having a good old time. He was just

1281
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 2: so disruptive as well. And he was kind of like

1282
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 2: the two gap god when he was, you know, on

1283
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 2: that defensive line and that being able to take two gaps.

1284
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 2: You know how much Steff Freese, that linebacker, that's a

1285
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 2: linebacker's best friend right there, Vince Wolford, I mean.

1286
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: Drod Mayo, Dante high Tower, Jamie Cult they all love them.

1287
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 2: They all do it.

1288
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: And guys like they love guys that take double teams.

1289
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: Lets you get to that fucking kind of Big V

1290
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: just said. Big V has so many stats. He's he

1291
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: had so much production for the amount of stats he

1292
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:54,919
Speaker 1: had because he had such hidden things that made plays go.

1293
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: It was unblockable. And you take two double teams, they

1294
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: can never get the guy to the second level. Like

1295
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: he just was fucking a monster. And we wanted to

1296
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: talk about him on this show specifically because.

1297
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 2: Because what is he known for on Thanksgiving.

1298
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: Jules, He's the one that created the butt, but.

1299
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 2: The force, the generator of the butt fumball.

1300
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 1: Versus the New York Jets. Tan Chaz, Oh my god,

1301
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: he did that before. Like he it's where he gets

1302
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:35,439
Speaker 1: so much penetration. He drives his guy back so far

1303
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 1: that it hit the quarterback with the guy that he

1304
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: was driving backs, but that made him fumble the football

1305
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 1: and Steve Gregory scoop score in his home area of

1306
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: New Jersey, which was just a fucking crazy game. That

1307
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: comes to my mind when I think evins of some

1308
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: of his crazy stories. But also remember when we were

1309
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: in Buffalo and he read out the receivers.

1310
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 2: What was he rewarded with though after he had the

1311
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 2: turkey on the post game he had the turkey leg.

1312
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: He had the turkey leg.

1313
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 2: He's rewarded with a turkey leg during the post game

1314
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 2: for his contribution to the butt fumble.

1315
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:12,919
Speaker 1: And he ate that thing.

1316
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 2: He ate it all.

1317
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 1: Not surprised.

1318
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 2: So what what was it that you were talking about

1319
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 2: in Buffalo?

1320
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: Remember in Buffalo where they had that receiver screen and

1321
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: V read it and he was full full speed and

1322
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 1: a receiver was full speed not seeing him, and it

1323
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: looked like it looked like if a semi hit like

1324
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: one of those little smart cars.

1325
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, this this is the receiver. Like he

1326
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 2: was up, he was up, and the like your finger

1327
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,959
Speaker 2: just got bent backwards in the matter of a split second,

1328
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 2: boom that looked like the receiver right there.

1329
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: Boom, It's not even that, it's not even the mass.

1330
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 1: Imagine if he like fell on you going that fast,

1331
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 1: well you like a bug, like a fucking bug.

1332
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 2: I bet you got a fly out of the air

1333
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 2: and it just explodes everywhere. That's kind of what happened

1334
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 2: to the Bills wide receiver.

1335
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 1: And you always they flattened him. No, it was that's

1336
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: a terrifying hit. Like that's like, that was a terrifying hit.

1337
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: There's a lot of big hits that you see. You're like,

1338
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 1: all right, you can you can withstand that. But when

1339
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: it's it's straight physics, when you got mass times velocity,

1340
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 1: you get forced, you get fucking force. And that's what

1341
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 1: big V was. I don't know if that's right for

1342
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: you physics people get us in there. But then also

1343
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 1: what about what about his interceptions. We're talking big plays here.

1344
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 2: I mean he had that that pick versus Philip Rivers

1345
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 2: at home in Gillette Stadium when he was at another

1346
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 2: screen or he was just I think he was. It

1347
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 2: got tipped or somebody, Yeah, did he tip it? Did

1348
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 2: he tip it? Yeah, he tipped it to himself. He

1349
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 2: showed great ball skills right there.

1350
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: And then then you saw your fast feet.

1351
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 2: Yes, and then he started just you know, trucking down

1352
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 2: the field like a rabbit with his fast feet. He

1353
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 2: looked nimble, and he looked agile and just rumbling down

1354
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 2: the field.

1355
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone in the world that watched that play,

1356
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: anyone in the world didn't want that big man to

1357
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 1: score when a big man has because the ball looked

1358
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: like a fucking like, uh, a paper talent is in

1359
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 1: his armpit of breadth. I mean it, pumper nickel, pumper nickel.

1360
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 1: It looks so small and he's like running it and

1361
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 1: like everyone is just sitting there, like, look at the

1362
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 1: big big Remember Colm Ley also did that and they

1363
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 1: kick off return packers. I love big Man get or

1364
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 1: score a touchdown Soldier.

1365
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 2: Everyone loves it. Man Soldier had that one. The Lions

1366
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 2: are doing it a lot. Lions are doing it. We're

1367
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 2: speaking of Thanksgiving, you know, teams Lions and there you know,

1368
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 2: don't don't not expect a trick play to alignman this

1369
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving from the Detroit Lions.

1370
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 1: I mean a fake punt. You're gonna You're gonna there's

1371
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 1: gonna be something like that. We we talked about on

1372
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 1: this show a few weeks back. Tight End University Day

1373
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:00,080
Speaker 1: or Happy tight End Day? What's it called? National tight End?

1374
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 1: National tight End deck. There's got to be a national

1375
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: big Guy Touchdown Day or a big Guy catch Day.

1376
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: It just needs to be national.

1377
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 2: Bit Like, it's a rule in the NFL book that

1378
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 2: you got have to at least run one tackle eligible, play.

1379
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 1: One tackle eligible. The guy has to be over two

1380
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 1: and seventy five and eighty five pounds has to touch

1381
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 1: a football on one specific day, National Big Fat Guy Day.

1382
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 1: I like that. That's what I think. We like that.

1383
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: Who's gonna start it? I think we need Big V. Yeah,

1384
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 1: Big V, come on, let's go. You remember in the

1385
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: butt fumble game. I remember watching it the next day

1386
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 1: in meetings, Bill rewinded it like four or five times,

1387
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: barely said anything, and then like got up and talked

1388
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 1: and he said, the Jets got exactly what they deserve,

1389
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 1: Like did something like one of those you know what,

1390
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 1: do you remember that? I actually was hurt that year

1391
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 1: a juel.

1392
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 2: So I was at home just watching it from my couch,

1393
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 2: just enjoying my thing thanks Giving, and I just remember

1394
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 2: that play happening. I was shocked because we were already dominating,

1395
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 2: that dominating, dominating that it wasn't even.

1396
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: A close game at all.

1397
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 2: And just when that happened, I was giggling to myself,

1398
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 2: like what a play.

1399
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 1: I never seen anything like that.

1400
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 2: And I was screaming too, because Gregory just scooped it

1401
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 2: like it just didn't happen. A butt fumble and directly

1402
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,919
Speaker 2: on the ground and directly in the Gregory's hand went

1403
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 2: to the end zone of the Patriots as well. We

1404
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 2: got six points out of it. It's like it doesn't

1405
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 2: happen usually. Usually, like a play like that, you know,

1406
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 2: usually someone just gets on it and it's a fumble recovery.

1407
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 2: It went to the house. We scored on it.

1408
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: How do you think Sanchiz or Sanchito feels about that.

1409
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:46,919
Speaker 2: I mean, Sanchiz is a good dudeofy dude, so I

1410
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 2: think he kind of likes it.

1411
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 1: I think he does.

1412
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he does own it for sure. He'll giggle

1413
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 2: about it for sure. It's kind of like the Miami miracle.

1414
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 2: I own that play. Yeah, he got like the fumble

1415
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 2: with Sanchez, I mean it's okay, I mean it happens.

1416
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 1: It's kind of like the two thousand and four or

1417
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 1: two thousand and two, uh frosh Off Championship between the

1418
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 1: Bay Division Ocean Division. You know, I gave this interception

1419
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 1: away and they won it on it. It's kind of

1420
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: like you own it now, fucking him. I'll never own it.

1421
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 2: It's bullshit. It's okay, Jules. One day you'll own it.

1422
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 2: You'll get over it. It's okay, man, we're here for it.

1423
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 1: Just be thankful for other things and then you'll get

1424
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: over that. You know what, I'm also thankful for. What

1425
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 1: are you thankful for? That? We were a part of

1426
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: probably two of the craziest play calls in the history

1427
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 1: of football. Won the butt fumble? Yes, what's more embarrassing

1428
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 1: the butt fumble? Or do you remember when the Colts

1429
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: had that stupid punt formation that they tried us Sad

1430
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 1: was down.

1431
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 2: It was fourth and two and they were trying to

1432
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 2: get us on a trick more than four. It was

1433
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 2: a weird formation. They had like everyone spread out wide

1434
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 2: and then.

1435
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 1: The center's just down in distance.

1436
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 2: And then there was a running back behind in the

1437
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 2: center or something, and then they hiked it and everyone

1438
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 2: was in like in shock, like what the.

1439
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,919
Speaker 1: Goings? And that's The only reason I bring this up

1440
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 1: is because the same shock factor that we had that like,

1441
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 1: did that but just make that fumble and then we

1442
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 1: scored a touchdown. That same shock factor is the same

1443
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 1: shock factor we had when they did this punt formation thing.

1444
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 2: Did he really hiked the ball?

1445
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 1: I'm not a math guy, but three on one, I'm

1446
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,439
Speaker 1: looking at the Colt sideline right here after the play.

1447
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 1: Are you fucking serious? What is this? Like? This is

1448
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 1: National Football.

1449
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 2: League and they're only down by six in the third quarter.

1450
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's the cults for you? That was

1451
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 1: that was worse than the bumble, Yeah, because that's placed

1452
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: through force in gravity exactly. The butt fumble was made

1453
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 1: by Vince in that fucking three hundred in twenty five

1454
01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 1: pound frame, twenty five pound taking his matchup and driving

1455
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 1: him into the fucking I'm I'm blabberd acid. I didn't

1456
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 1: realize we were going to get into that play. I

1457
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 1: think they rose the banner that year. That's why I

1458
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 1: never lost, was that the banner. Ye never lost to

1459
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 1: the Did we ever lose the cults?

1460
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 2: I did two thousand and nine, so it doesn't count.

1461
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 1: How about the big boy on body issues? I mean,

1462
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 1: he's He's not like it looks like muscle. It is muscle.

1463
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 2: That's why I love the ESPN the Body Issue because

1464
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:33,520
Speaker 2: they featured everyone.

1465
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,640
Speaker 1: Yeah it's and they were just showing how were you

1466
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 1: on it? The statue?

1467
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 2: Yes, how the statue of the body represented all different

1468
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 2: types of athletes, from a guy that played tackle to

1469
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 2: a wide receiver to myself.

1470
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,639
Speaker 1: Right there, young, You want to know.

1471
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 2: The running joke was about me, I'm being on the

1472
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 2: Body issue cover?

1473
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:56,759
Speaker 1: What was that? The circle?

1474
01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 2: It was really small that they needed to use.

1475
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 1: What circle? The cover me up? Yeah?

1476
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 2: You know what?

1477
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 1: I didn't they tell you it was going to be

1478
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 1: a small set, like there's not gonna be a lot

1479
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 1: of people there.

1480
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 2: There really wasn't. There's probably like five, five or six.

1481
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 2: How many people were on your I feel like there

1482
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 2: was thirty in mine? Really thirty. I wanted to see you, Jules,

1483
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 2: you're a good looking guy. I did a wonderful body.

1484
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 1: Now, how did the How did the football stay on?

1485
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 2: It's a good question. I was kind of adjusting it

1486
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 2: before every shot, and then I kind of adjusted it

1487
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 2: so I kind of found that niche.

1488
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 1: Did you have to take a viagara to keep that

1489
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 1: thing stacked up so you could just post on there. No.

1490
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 2: No, it was actually one of the worst performance looking

1491
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 2: days of my life. It was kind of chilly in there,

1492
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 2: I tell you, I felt like a frozen raisin. Yeah,

1493
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 2: and I was just giggling at myself every time I

1494
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 2: look back at the pictures. Yeah, it was bad. It

1495
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 2: was bad. I was embarrassed just looking at it myself.

1496
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 1: It was crazy because like you would see like a

1497
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 1: picture of you know, you'd go with the photographer and

1498
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 1: your your wiener would be out and you'd see the

1499
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 1: picture and then all of a sudden, they'd be like, oh,

1500
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 1: don't worry, we could just cut that.

1501
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're sitting there worrying because you're like, you're

1502
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 2: gonna go tell everyone you know, and then that person

1503
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 2: that's reviewing my.

1504
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:22,879
Speaker 1: Request three degrees in the shoot set it was sixty

1505
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 1: ten minutes. What kind of dude is Vince will fork

1506
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 1: stud a freak, a dog, a dude's dude, or a whiz.

1507
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 2: I mean he's a waist. He has a lot of

1508
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 2: intellectual and knowledge of the game of football. I mean

1509
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 2: he was a smart player. That's why he knew that

1510
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 2: big play that he made when we were talking about

1511
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 2: it versus the Buffalo Bills, and he absolutely dominated the

1512
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 2: receiver on that screen across the middle because he saw

1513
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 2: that play coming. He sniffed it out like he was

1514
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 2: a wizard out there. That's how he made majority of

1515
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 2: his play. Same with his interceptions. He knew the screen

1516
01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 2: was coming. He backed off. He knew that when he

1517
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 2: got dropped, he wasn't going to just go to the

1518
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 2: quarterback and get a free sack. He knew there must

1519
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 2: be a different type of play coming. Oh it's going

1520
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 2: to be a screen or it's a gimmick or something.

1521
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 2: I mean, he was smart, bro, He was very smart

1522
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 2: on that football field, I'm telling you. I mean, yeah,

1523
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,759
Speaker 2: he was a freak for his size, I mean three sixty,

1524
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 2: just the way that he could move, his athletic ability.

1525
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 2: Kind of a dude's dude as well, with his barbecues,

1526
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 2: man inviting the guys over, having that barbecue sauce for everyone.

1527
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 1: He's also a fucking dog. Yeah, he was a dog.

1528
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 1: He was grimy in there. Oh yeah, when you're the

1529
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 1: guy taking the double team the whole time, and you

1530
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 1: know you have to go getting six hundred pounds every

1531
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 1: fucking play because he's taking double teams every place, six

1532
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 1: hundred pounds.

1533
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 2: And he would take those double teams and kind of

1534
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 2: just eat those double teams up, he really would, and

1535
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:47,680
Speaker 2: just let that linebacker just free to go in and

1536
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 2: make the place.

1537
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 1: And he's a fucking stud is atltus Susan he is, man.

1538
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 1: I mean, he could shoot a basketball. I mean he's

1539
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 1: insane thrower of the football. You watch his golf swing,

1540
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 1: You're like, holy fuck, I think he's scratched. This is

1541
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 1: a true tough one. Man.

1542
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 2: This is really tough to really categorize and pinpoint Vince

1543
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 2: Wolfork to just one category.

1544
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 1: Man, it's gonna be tough on three. What do you expect? One?

1545
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 2: Oh man, hold on, let me keep thinking about this man,

1546
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 2: all right, all right.

1547
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 1: One, two, three?

1548
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 2: Friuiz ah man, oh man, I know, man, he is

1549
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 2: a freak though, but he's he's so smart.

1550
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 1: Man, I'm telling you he's a smart football player. Yeah,

1551
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 1: but that goes into his freakiness where you think a

1552
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 1: guy that looks like him is smart. He's great.

1553
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 2: He's great in commercials too, like you see him in

1554
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 2: that stove commercial.

1555
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 1: Now, like grilling and all that. He's on TV.

1556
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 2: But you also just sitting there like smart large gotta

1557
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:46,679
Speaker 2: be smart large guy right now. That, like we said,

1558
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,600
Speaker 2: we're categorizing freaks as you're just looking at someone You're like,

1559
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 2: how can they possibly do that?

1560
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 1: Size?

1561
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 2: Also also like can we say, yeah, he's he's a

1562
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 2: wizard though, can you.

1563
01:12:57,960 --> 01:12:58,719
Speaker 1: Agree with that.

1564
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 2: He?

1565
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I always remember, I mean Bill talking about

1566
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:05,759
Speaker 1: how smart he is a football player instinctive.

1567
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 2: So I do agree he is a freak of nature.

1568
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 2: I mean obviously to be that size, to move, you know,

1569
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,680
Speaker 2: to move that well on the football field, take on

1570
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 2: double teams and just squash him. Just the way he

1571
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 2: tackled guys too, They would go right down. There was

1572
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 2: no mistackles by Vince Wallfork when he got your hands

1573
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 2: on you.

1574
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 1: No, so he drape you down and he swallow you.

1575
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 2: All Right, we'll try again. Let's do it again.

1576
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 1: One two, three, freak stamp it. We'll be right back

1577
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:34,639
Speaker 1: after this quick break.

1578
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 2: Since it's Thanksgiving, we're talking food with our dudes.

1579
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:46,679
Speaker 1: That's right, We're gonna be equating our favorite Thanksgiving dishes

1580
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:48,440
Speaker 1: to an NFL player.

1581
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 2: Like Tom Brady would totally be the turkey. The star

1582
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 2: of the show.

1583
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 1: Mashed Potatoes cranberryes stuffing mac and cheese.

1584
01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 2: My mouth is watering already.

1585
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 1: Let's get it to it.

1586
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 2: Let's get into it, Jewles, all right, so cranberry, I'm.

1587
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 1: Ready to feast already. Right now, I'm getting hungry. The

1588
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 1: NFL equivalent to a cranberry sauce, which we're going to

1589
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 1: categorize cranberry sauce as a little sweet little tart, a

1590
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,639
Speaker 1: bit polarizing. Who would that be? Man?

1591
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 2: There's gotta be a couple players that represent that. Does

1592
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 2: it have to be someone that we play with or

1593
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:25,839
Speaker 2: it can be a current player anyone. It could be anyone,

1594
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 2: but it has to be an NFL player. Medcalf DK

1595
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 2: you really think so? He's a little polarizing. People either

1596
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 2: love him or hate him.

1597
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 1: He could be a fucking a fun time out there,

1598
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 1: but he can also rip your face off and try

1599
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 1: to fight you. He's always trying to fight.

1600
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:42,560
Speaker 2: You want to know who really reminds me of a

1601
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 2: cranberry sauce?

1602
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 1: That's you, Jewels Man. You are a little sweet man.

1603
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 2: You could be definitely tired at sometimes you could be

1604
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 2: sour depending on the mood that you are and going

1605
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 2: into the locker room that day depending on what happened,

1606
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:55,480
Speaker 2: and a bit polarizing.

1607
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 1: I mean, one.

1608
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 2: Day you're all, you know, positive, the next day you're

1609
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 2: yelling at everybody on the defensive side of the ball.

1610
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 1: So I'm going with you as the cranberry sauce. I'll

1611
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 1: take it all right. Are you kidding me? Are you

1612
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 1: kidding me? Are you?

1613
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:11,679
Speaker 2: Are you like that sugary cranberry sauce?

1614
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 1: I think you are. I'm the ocean cranberry cansauce. Okay,

1615
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 1: And it's easy, open her up, take her out. Probably

1616
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 1: not the best for you, but delicious. I love this.

1617
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 1: I love this segment already.

1618
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 2: Man, Thanksgiving food talk and who it represents as a player.

1619
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 1: Man, this is fun.

1620
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 2: I can't I can't wait. What am I?

1621
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 1: We'll get to it, hopefully, I'm gonna be the next

1622
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 1: one stuffing versatyle a fan favorite ties it all together.

1623
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 1: Oh I like it.

1624
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 2: You're stuffing, I am stuffing.

1625
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 1: I'm going with it. Who else is stuffing? I can

1626
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:47,679
Speaker 1: do it all on the football field. I mean Barry

1627
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:50,680
Speaker 1: Sanders would be stuffing, you know, keeping it on the

1628
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving mashed potatoes and gravy. Two dudes, Blue guy dish

1629
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 1: holds everything together. Is it one guy or is it

1630
01:15:59,160 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 1: two dudes?

1631
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ago with Definitely Matthew Slater here. Yeah, he's

1632
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:08,679
Speaker 2: a blue guy. He does hold the whole team together.

1633
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:12,679
Speaker 2: He holds court after the game. Yeah, Matt Matt Slater

1634
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 2: definitely plays a big part in the mashed potatoes and gravy?

1635
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:18,679
Speaker 2: Are we are we working with two guys here? Who's

1636
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 2: the gravy because he's not the gravy, he's the mashed

1637
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 2: potatoes definitely, and then the gravy that that tops that off.

1638
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 1: Joe Cardonia would be his little psych Yeah, Joe Cardona.

1639
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 2: But what about Nico Kudavids Codovits definitely the gravy he was, Yeah,

1640
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 2: he is. He kept everyone together.

1641
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 1: In like a fatty way. Gravy is not the best

1642
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:40,640
Speaker 1: for you. It's actually terrible for you because it's just

1643
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 1: butter and and Nico was kind of terrible for you. Terrible,

1644
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:46,719
Speaker 1: but great it all together.

1645
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 2: If you don't know who Nico Davids is, I mean

1646
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,799
Speaker 2: he he played in the NFL at the linebacker position

1647
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 2: for you know, nine years in started with Seattle, played

1648
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 2: in Denver, Tampa, and then he ended up finished his

1649
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:02,639
Speaker 2: career with US on the New England Patriots.

1650
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 1: He was he was.

1651
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 2: He was a part of the good times, that's for sure.

1652
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,640
Speaker 1: He was the guy that held court. He was a

1653
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:14,799
Speaker 1: very gravy guy. Loved me some Nico. He was funny

1654
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 1: as fuck. First day Tim Tebow came in and asked

1655
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 1: him if he jacked off. Who's the cheese? We can't

1656
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 1: get into that though, man oh man, all right, let's.

1657
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 2: Get the mac and cheese a perform a performer, the

1658
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 2: mac and cheesemer.

1659
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 1: The mac and cheese is a sleepy star for Minnie.

1660
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:43,640
Speaker 1: The performer steals his show. I would say causes problems.

1661
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 2: They cause problems, Yeah, because it's either like you're a

1662
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 2: mac and cheese fan or you're just not a mac

1663
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 2: and cheese fan. And some people believe mac and cheese

1664
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 2: is a Thanksgiving staple and that's kind of like down South.

1665
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 2: And then there's other people who don't believe mac and

1666
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 2: cheese should even be on the plate for Thanksgiving. It's

1667
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 2: kind of like a diss to the green beans.

1668
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:08,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, so then who's the mac and cheese performer? Controversial?

1669
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:09,959
Speaker 2: Jamis Winston.

1670
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 1: He's a little controversial. He eats some ws.

1671
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 2: He's just so yeah, he does that w thing and

1672
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 2: then eats when he was with the Bucks.

1673
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 1: What about Aaron Rodgers? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a one,

1674
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:21,840
Speaker 1: right there, Rogers.

1675
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 2: He's a cheesy yeah he is.

1676
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 1: If you put a little like Baker Baker, Baker Mayfield,

1677
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:30,639
Speaker 1: you put some mushrooms in there.

1678
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:34,839
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, there you go. Yeah, oh Wen, Aaron Aaron Rodgers.

1679
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 1: So say that again, what was that? Well, you know,

1680
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 1: instead of putting like a truffle mac and cheese, yeah,

1681
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:42,720
Speaker 1: put like a mushroom mac and cheese or ayahuasca mac

1682
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 1: and cheese or some kind of psychedelic mac and cheese. Maybe. No,

1683
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 1: you're right on. I can't argue that. Who's the turkey

1684
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 1: right now? The National Football League? The turkey right now?

1685
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 1: The Star Patrick Mahomes not even an argument, it's not

1686
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 1: even argument. Maybe Josh Allen, he's a turkey in Buffalo. Yeah,

1687
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 1: he's a little dried up though. You know, he's got

1688
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 1: a little he's a little tried out turkey.

1689
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 2: When it comes to the AFC Championship game, he needs

1690
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 2: it to he.

1691
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 1: Needs a little turkey up, a little moisture, And Josh

1692
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 1: Allen is like that white meat, little dryer. Yeah, I

1693
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 1: would say that's overcooked. He's not over It's still good.

1694
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 1: It's still really good, but it ain't.

1695
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:30,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not overcooked Patrick yet. Yeah, just not not

1696
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 2: that little you.

1697
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 1: Know, you know, you never know this time we cook it,

1698
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 1: he could be This year it cooks in and we

1699
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 1: get a perfect cook But right now, you know, time

1700
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 1: will tell you that the most moist turkey would be

1701
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:48,679
Speaker 1: Patrick mahomes. All right, And who's the pumpkin pie slash

1702
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 1: sweet Potato? The reliable, consistent, little good ender of the meal?

1703
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 2: No matter what how full you are, you always have

1704
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:57,680
Speaker 2: room to eat.

1705
01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 4: This pumpkin pie or sweet potato apple pie with a

1706
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 4: side of vanilla ice cream, with whipped cream, a cherry

1707
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 4: on top, maybe some nuts sprinkled over it with some

1708
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 4: caramel sauce, some chocolate sauce.

1709
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 2: Who now we're talking? Who is this guy? Reliable?

1710
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 1: Insistent in the good ender to him? Oh? Is this

1711
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 1: is this? Uh? Is this playoff dola like a kicker? Yeah?

1712
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 2: But playoff always reliable in the playoffs always. I mean,

1713
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 2: he is a good ender to a meal. I mean,

1714
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:34,600
Speaker 2: you see how delicious he looks. I'm dancing with the styres. Yeah,

1715
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 2: the dude is consistent guy at being reliable in the

1716
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 2: playoffs regular season. If you ask Bill Belichick, he was

1717
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:44,679
Speaker 2: not consistent there. But we're not talking regular season. We're

1718
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:46,639
Speaker 2: talking end of this season, when the meal is over.

1719
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:48,480
Speaker 2: He was always.

1720
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 1: There when the meal was on the line. But this

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01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 1: might have to go to a kicker, though, who are

1722
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 1: you thinking as a kicker? All timer right now?

1723
01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter?

1724
01:20:56,080 --> 01:21:01,720
Speaker 1: Buckner right or what's it? Buck He's consistent. I'm not

1725
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 1: a a little controversial. Depending on what pie he is,

1726
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:07,600
Speaker 1: he could be apple pie and I can tell you

1727
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 1: who's making that pie. I can tell you who's making

1728
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 1: that pie. It ain't him, it's his better half. But

1729
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 1: you know, depending on you, he could be a pump

1730
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 1: the sweet potato. People may not like him personally, I

1731
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:20,559
Speaker 1: think they taste the same.

1732
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 2: They do, especially when you have a side of ice cream.

1733
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 1: Personally, I think you know you give me either. I'm cool.

1734
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 1: You know he's made a lot of big kicks in

1735
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:31,599
Speaker 1: the last few years, so I would say he's pumpkin

1736
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 1: or sweet potato pie, depending on who you are what

1737
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 1: you are.

1738
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:35,720
Speaker 2: I'm hungry, I.

1739
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:36,639
Speaker 1: Know I'm hungry.

1740
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 2: Thankful for the show today, man, Thankful to be there

1741
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 2: with you. Joys talking out what's going on, you know

1742
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:46,640
Speaker 2: in the football world, scouting guys, what we can do

1743
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 2: better on our episodes as well. Just thankful for everything, man,

1744
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:52,679
Speaker 2: Thankful for the meals that you bring here every time

1745
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 2: I show up. Good meal. I'm podcasting days, man, great meals,

1746
01:21:56,920 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 2: the smoothies, the breakfast burritos. Man, just so good.

1747
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 1: I tell you right now, you ladies, you guys, trying

1748
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 1: to get at the gronk, which he's taking it off

1749
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 1: off off the line. But you know, you get to

1750
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 1: him through his stomach. You don't get to his heart.

1751
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 1: You go through his stomach. I don't got a heart.

1752
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:16,599
Speaker 1: I got his stomach. Yeah, but you can get through

1753
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 1: that hard. You can get to give him some food

1754
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 1: and smoothie, some healthy ship, you know, and you get

1755
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:23,559
Speaker 1: a give one self. Scout. What do I think I

1756
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 1: think we did? What could we do about our jewels?

1757
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 1: Sometimes we get him these tangents to have nothing to

1758
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 1: do with anything. But that's podcast I guess podcasts, and

1759
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:35,599
Speaker 1: it's finest. We'll figure it out. You guys, tell us,

1760
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 1: you guys, tell us what we got to do better.

1761
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 1: We're still trying to tighten this thing up, making a

1762
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 1: fishing effective machine kind of like it was when we

1763
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:47,600
Speaker 1: were playing in the place we played. That's not like

1764
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 1: that right now, we're trying to be like it was. Yes,

1765
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 1: it was throwbacks. And that's been another episode of Dudes

1766
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:59,559
Speaker 1: on Dudes. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you

1767
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 1: listen to your podcast, great in review, comment, and dude

1768
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 1: you want us to do and remember the file.

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01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 2: Dudes on Dudes on YouTube, Instagram, x TikTok, and snapchat.

1770
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:11,679
Speaker 1: We will see you next week.

1771
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:15,600
Speaker 2: And Dudes on Dudes is a production of iHeartRadio. For

1772
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:21,440
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1773
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:24,479
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1774
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:26,600
Speaker 1: Let's goiving.

1775
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving everyone,