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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with her radio. We're back, Yes, we are back with

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Speaker 1: Jesse Palmer, and this episode, we're going to break down

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Speaker 1: this season to the Bachelorrette. We're gonna get some juice

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Speaker 1: on how this season operated, if Gabby and Rachel really

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Speaker 1: got along, behind the scenes, how Jesse navigated this season,

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Speaker 1: if it was difficult, if it was different from the

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Speaker 1: Bachelor or Bachelorette. For him, it's gonna be awesome. It

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Speaker 1: is awesome. So let's jump into it with Jesse Palmer.

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Speaker 1: All right, Jesse, you just got done filming Rachel and

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Speaker 1: Gabby season. Whoever, the minds that be behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: definitely said, hey, Jesse, welcome to the show. Let's give

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Speaker 1: you two bachelorettes. Uh, and let you deal with that.

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Speaker 1: I I guess my question for you is, how did

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Speaker 1: it go having two bachelorettes under your care? Yeah, it's uh,

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Speaker 1: that's a great question. Uh. Nobody knew how this was

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Speaker 1: gonna work at all, because it's it's never really happened before.

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Speaker 1: We've never had two bachelorrets go the entire course of

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Speaker 1: the season, so it's uh, it's double the work for sure.

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Speaker 1: As a host, it's Um, it's a lot more story.

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Speaker 1: It's too love stories, but two completely different journeys between

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Speaker 1: two women who are are different people, Rachel and Gabby. Um,

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Speaker 1: there could not be two more deserving people to have this,

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Speaker 1: have this opportunity. But when we started this thing, and

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Speaker 1: I kind of mentioned it to Rachel and Gabby when

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Speaker 1: we're on the couch and after the final rows, like,

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Speaker 1: how is this gonna work? How are you going to

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Speaker 1: date this group of guys who's going on different dates?

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Speaker 1: How our hometown is gonna happen? Like where we going?

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Speaker 1: How does this all working blend together? And somehow, some way,

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Speaker 1: all I'll say is it just kind of worked. It

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Speaker 1: worked itself out. Um. Rachel and Gabby had to navigate

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Speaker 1: a mind field at times and situations that no Bachelor

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Speaker 1: bachelotte I think has ever had to encounter. A big

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Speaker 1: team of this season for them is their love and

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Speaker 1: support and friendship together helping them kind of get through this.

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Speaker 1: But no doubt about it, dude, Like for myself, for you,

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Speaker 1: for everybody that's going to watch this season, Like you

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Speaker 1: need a wall in your your house with photos strings

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Speaker 1: connected to them, like like like you're solving a crime crime,

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Speaker 1: because there's just so much storyline going on at the

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Speaker 1: same time, and there's different people and maybe there's a

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Speaker 1: love triangle over here. Who knows what's happening. Um, but

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait for Bachelor Nation to see this all

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Speaker 1: unfold and play out, because it really is. It's going

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Speaker 1: to be at first like this is history and people

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Speaker 1: are going to see that it's pretty pretty cool. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean in you're not not aware of it. Uh.

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Speaker 1: There was criticism because of you know, my season of

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Speaker 1: The Bachelor, I had two bachelorettes. Uh none one of

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Speaker 1: them made it past night one the other one didn't.

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Speaker 1: People were concerned. Fans were concerned about, oh, we're doing

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Speaker 1: this again, and that was so hard to watch. And

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Speaker 1: I think everything we found out post filming, uh, and

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Speaker 1: Ashley and I are committed to not getting spoilers. We

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Speaker 1: work really hard at that. But one thing we do

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Speaker 1: know is that Rachel and Gabby are very supportive of

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Speaker 1: were very supportive of each other then. But you didn't

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Speaker 1: know that, Jesse. Going into the season, the two of them,

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Speaker 1: you know, you didn't know that they were going to

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Speaker 1: get along you didn't know that they were going to

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Speaker 1: stand up for each other. This could have gone a

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Speaker 1: lot of different directions. Can you speak a little bit

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Speaker 1: to what they did behind the scenes to keep that

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Speaker 1: Awesome question. I think a reason why why people thought

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Speaker 1: all saw the wavering support they had for each other

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Speaker 1: in an Iceland on Clayton season during the Rows Ceremony

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Speaker 1: obviously in person at the Opera House and Rakovic and

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Speaker 1: just the emotion, the heartbreak, how how hard of a

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Speaker 1: I think it gave us hope that this could happen

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Speaker 1: But what happens now when you put a bunch of

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Speaker 1: and Gab You know, it's there's so many scenarios on

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Speaker 1: And I think that, I mean, I would hope, you know,

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Speaker 1: And we don't want to do this row ceremony this way,

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Speaker 1: or this is where we want to go. We're canceling

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Speaker 1: navigating those waters have to be tough, and that's oftentimes

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Speaker 1: where you come in Jesse. It is where you can go, Okay,

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Speaker 1: can we bring some wisdom into the situation. How many

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