WEBVTT - Spooky Stories with Heather Martin 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:04.200 Hell, I suck at Dating with Dean Angler and I 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:08.240 heart radio podcast. Boy oh boy, have I missed that introduction. 0:00:08.280 --> 0:00:11.480 It's short and sweet, straight to the point. It's really 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:13.920 only mentioning the one person we all care about. I 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:17.000 eat me. I think my vanity has gone through the 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:20.520 roof these days, and I'm just yes, thank you. That's 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:22.400 what everyone's supposed to applaud. If you're listening at home, 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:25.320 please just start putting your hands together for me. I'm 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:29.080 your host today. But actually it's not just me hosting today. 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:32.560 We have a very special co host. A guest celebrity 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:36.120 co host is in studio with us today. I'm gonna 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:37.559 go ahead and extend this out for as long as 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:39.720 I possibly can, to just milk it. You probably read 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:43.800 it in the actually the episode information what is it 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:47.600 called the description of the episode of who the guest 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:52.280 co host is. She is beloved in the Bachelor franchise. 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:54.720 She honestly, we haven't seen enough of her, and I'm 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:56.680 we're gonna dive into a little bit about why we 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:59.080 haven't seen more of her, but we have. Heather Am 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:01.800 from Colton, c is in co hosting today. Everyone give 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:04.760 a round of applause. I guess, how's it going? How 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:07.840 to give yourself a round of applause? You're too humble 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:09.600 once you If you want to host a podcast, you 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:11.720 have to be more into yourself. You know perfect. How 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:13.640 are you good? How are you doing? I'm good? Thank 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:16.480 you for asking. We were just barely talking before this 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:19.640 um started airing. I don't really know much about you, yes, 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:21.160 and I think that's gonna be good because I want 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:24.640 to just dive into your life. Who you are first 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:26.200 and foremost. Why the heck did we not see you 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:29.160 on Bachelor in Paradise. I don't think Paradise is for me. 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:32.400 I think Paradise is a little too much. I think 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:34.280 Bachelor was already kind of like a lot for me. 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:37.000 Let's start with Bachelor. Okay, So for our listeners out there, 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:40.479 you're listening to this podcast, you're probably more likely than 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:42.880 not are a fan of The Bachelor, Bachelor at Bachelor 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:47.880 in Paradise, etcetera. And Heather was on Colton season. Your 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:50.040 big storyline was that you had never been kissed before. 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:52.120 Can I just ask you a question? And I'm sure 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:54.040 You've been asked a many times, have you really actually 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:56.480 never been kissed? Up until that? Point, it was true. 0:01:57.000 --> 0:02:00.040 I had never been kissed. It was I don't know 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:03.320 why I would make that up. That's just like making 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:05.880 myself like work, kiss on the cheek, a kiss on 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:09.920 the forehead, kiss on my hand probably, but like like 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:13.400 a romantic one from your parents. Yeah, yes, exactly, not 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:15.920 from my back. How does that? How can I ask? 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:19.320 How does that happen? Because you're like, you're beautiful, and 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:23.120 you seem like you seem very normal, like and charismatic. 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:27.920 Thank you, Just you just have really insanely high standards. Yeah, 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:29.640 I mean that's what I was worried about going in. 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:32.000 I was like super concerning. I'm like, people are going 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:34.680 to think I'm something like seriously wrong, like you seemed 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.160 normal about Something's like, what's wrong with this girl? Because 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:40.200 it's like so not normal. But like I think, yeah, 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:43.440 I just think I'm super picky. I hadn't dated, like 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:47.000 super seriously, and that's something that kind of meant something 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:49.400 to me. So I just was I didn't want to 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:52.360 get I hate hurting people, and I like, I just 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:54.640 think it's like pointless and less like I'm really into someone. 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:57.040 So did you go to a normal high school? Yeah? 0:02:57.080 --> 0:03:00.840 I went to public high school. I went to a 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:04.960 private Christian school for college. Okay, so it was different, um, 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:07.160 but yeah, normal high school. Like everything was pretty normal. 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:10.480 I just like everyone I like encountered if they've found 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:12.440 out there, like what's wrong with you? Like that's so weird? 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:14.720 But was there? So there obviously was like a lot 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:17.000 of pressure building up over time, and then you got 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:21.080 to experience your first kiss on television, which is the 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:23.360 probably the first time that's ever happened in the history 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:25.480 of television. I know, I know. It was so terrified. 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:27.280 I was like, oh my gosh. And I didn't really 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:29.519 even like tell any of the girls. Like a few 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:31.200 people knew, but I didn't tell anyone because I didn't 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:32.760 want people have to like talk about it, and I 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:35.880 didn't want it to be like a conversation like people 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:39.200 are talk negatively or because it seems like every season 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:41.760 there's like a virgin and that's like a big central storyline. 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:43.800 Colton was the virgin on his season. Obviously, before that 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:47.480 we had like Ashley, I, Becca, Tilly I Believe as well. 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:49.920 And then you just took that and you just want 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:56.200 up to which is which is awesome. Yeah. I was like, 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:58.160 oh my gosh, what they could do anything with this, 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:00.560 and they did. I mean, were you were you really 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:03.640 um like anxious about how they might edit the show 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:07.320 after you got done filming. Um, I think before I 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:10.400 was more nervous. I mean after they did more than 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:12.160 I was expecting they were going to do. Like I 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:13.880 didn't know what they could do because like all our 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:17.240 conversations were like everything seemed totally normal and like it 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:19.840 was great and nothing was like weird. And they did 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:22.520 as much as they could to make it weird. I 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:25.000 mean they really did. But like I wasn't too terrified, 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:27.479 and they made the first kiss a huge spectacle, yeah, 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:28.680 which I knew they were going to do. I knew 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:30.120 that if that was going to happen, Like when I 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:32.200 was going in, like I was aware of what was 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:33.760 going to happen. So I was like, Okay, is this 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:35.480 fine with me? Because like this is going to be 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:39.200 the main thing. So do you drink? Yeah? You do? Okay, 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:41.479 So on the show did you drink at all? I did, not, 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:43.520 like excessively right, just like a couple of glasses of 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:46.920 wine everywhile. Yeah, I like I like had champagne wine. 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:51.680 But I wasn't like I wasn't trying to get No, 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:53.480 I was not writing a little bit of a difference 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:55.440 between you, you and me on the season because I 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:59.760 was drinking to get drunk. No, no, no, Okay, So 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:02.200 obviously the podcast is called help I Suck a Dating? 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:06.480 I don't do you suck at dating? I mean apparently 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:10.200 I would say, yeah, no, no no, because here's the here's 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.520 the difference. Why I don't think you probably suck at 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:15.960 dating is because you haven't. You hadn't been kissed going 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:18.800 into the Bachelor season, not because you didn't have the 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:20.600 ability to be kissed, but just because you didn't want 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:23.440 to kiss anyone, right, Yeah, So I don't think that 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:25.200 means you suck at dating. I think that just means 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:28.719 you've got great standards. Well like you. Yeah, I feel 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:30.880 like I just like, don't I feel like a second 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:33.160 dating because I just don't really, I don't date a time. 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:35.520 I don't like dating. Dating is not fun for me. 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:39.000 And you live in Orange County Okay? Is that new? 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:41.400 Because I felt you always lived in like Long Beach area, 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:44.880 Slevin Karl's dad says, North County, San Diego. I see you, okay, 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:47.320 and so okay, so tell me how you got in 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:49.640 the bachelor in the first place. So my sister sent 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:52.960 in like a joke audition tape. It was like a 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:55.320 complete joke, Like it was like filming me when I 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:57.839 didn't know I was being filmed. You have a twin sister, No, 0:05:57.920 --> 0:05:59.679 but she looks like Okay, I have an older sister 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.040 in a young her sister. We're all two years apart. Um, 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:04.240 my older sister who doesn't look as much like me. 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:06.040 She sent in a video as like a complete joke, 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:09.880 like a compilation of like weird videos of me, and 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:12.480 then like a fake interview that I was just completely joking. 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:16.240 But then she sent it in and then um, I 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:18.440 got a call and met with them, but that was 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:21.919 like months before and then like two weeks before filming 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:24.000 started they got I got another call and they're like, hey, 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:26.359 based on who it is, like, we want you to 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:30.480 be Bachelor. So I like, yeah, and you were. Were 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:33.039 you excited to have Colton as a bachelor. Yeah, I 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:34.680 think that's the reason I was. I don't think I 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:36.159 would have been on the show if it wasn't for Colton. 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:38.000 I think that that's the reason I was there. So, 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:40.080 I mean, he seemed super cool and someone would be 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:42.920 interested in so I was really excited. And then so 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:46.440 my my issue with watching Bachelor and Bachelorrette. I'm super 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:48.000 into it for the first like four or five to 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:50.360 six weeks, and then as like it's like whittled down, 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:53.160 I like lose interest because I don't know why. I think, 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:55.840 which vice versa for me, Like don't you feel like 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:58.520 you get more invested after I just I like to 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:01.320 see like the fun moments of the drama type moved 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:03.120 more than like the actual and as it gets closer 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:04.640 to like hometowns and stuff like that, like it gets 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:07.280 more serious, and I just like, as a viewer kind 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:09.200 of get less interested because I just like to like 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:11.040 the cheap laughs, court or something, you know what I mean. 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:12.920 So you watch it for a different reason than like 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:14.200 a lot of people watch it. I feel like it's 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:16.200 like like some people watch a funny jama and the 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:18.680 laughs and like that, and then the other half like 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:21.160 don't want any of that. They just want the love story, right. 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:23.800 I agree? I agree? Um, okay, So what was your 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:25.920 experience like then? Did you enjoy it? Because it can 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:29.160 go either way, it seems like from a viewers perspective 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:32.880 that you like you did well for yourself, Like you 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:34.880 didn't really come across as like weird or cringe e 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:37.880 or you didn't make like a fool of yourself. Well everyone, 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:40.400 but you didn't like make a fool of yourself, which 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:42.680 is hard to do weirdly, you know what I mean. 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:44.680 You kind of like left it just the right time 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:46.440 where I don't know, you don't have to go to 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:48.280 the hometowns and put yourself out there that sort of way, 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:50.640 but you still had I don't know, what was it, Like, Yeah, 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:52.440 I had so much fun. I kind of went into 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:55.600 it with like the perspective of like it was so quick, 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:56.840 so I was like, Okay, I have no idea what 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:58.960 I'm doing. I'm just gonna like take each day each 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:02.240 week and like have fun with it and just see 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:04.160 where it goes. So literally every week I was like 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:06.560 see you guys. Like I did not think I was 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:08.840 gonna be there every single week, which I don't know 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:10.400 if that's good or bad, But I was just like 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:12.760 trying to like have the time in my life and 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:15.280 enjoy every single day and like be in that day 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:17.600 rather than like stress about the future and what was 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:20.520 going to happen. So I had the best time I 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:22.360 had so much fun. There's got it okay, and yes you, 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:24.920 as you alluded to, maybe Paradise wasn't the spot for 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.600 you to go and find love. So what has dating 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:31.000 like been like for you after Golden Season? Are you dating? 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:34.240 I honestly haven't dated that much, so it's like basically 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:37.080 just resume back to status quite normal, I know, which 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:38.839 is bad, which is why it's like a dating Why 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:42.439 Why don't you like to date? I just I mean 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:45.320 I I would like to date someone I was interested in, 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:47.760 like I really liked. I just don't like to date 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:51.040 like I feel like for me, I know, like when 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:53.880 I meet someone I know, maybe I don't, but I 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:56.280 feel like I know immediately, like this is not gonna 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:57.480 be a thing, And like I don't want to just 0:08:57.600 --> 0:08:59.720 date because like they're attractive or they're fun, Like I 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:02.520 just I want to date with the intention of something 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:04.640 serious or marriage or whatever. I don't want to just 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:06.240 date for fun because it's just like I would rather 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:08.560 spend time with someone that's going to be my life, 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:11.360 like my friends or sisters or something. Yeah, Like people 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:13.040 that I know are gonna be life forever. And if 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:14.880 I know that this person is not, like it seems 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:16.920 like almost like a waste to me. So what type 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:18.920 of person would you be interested in dating? Then? Like, 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:23.400 what is your type like like personality wise? Well yeah, okay, look, 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:25.840 let's I've got some friends that are single. I'm curious 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:27.160 if I can maybe set you up with any of them. 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:31.600 I like someone who's really like, um fun and goofy 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:35.120 and doesn't take themselves too seriously, but is super kind 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:39.240 and um like, thinks about others, like someone who's like 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:42.720 a servant's heart, like they think about others before themselves. 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:46.720 And just someone who's just fun and lighthearted. Okay, all right, 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:51.160 Let'm racking my brain. My friends like that Tori shaking 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:52.800 her head now, and she's probably right. Most of my 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:57.559 friends are not givers. I'm trying to think I might 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:00.080 have a couple of guys. Okay, So you didn't go 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:03.760 to Paradise. We missed you on Paradise, which I was 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:05.120 just talking to Killing about this the other day. I 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:07.120 was like, why the heck wasn't Heather at Paradise, Like 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:09.120 it doesn't make sense to me, and you're just saying 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:11.040 it just wasn't your environment. You just didn't want to go. 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:13.160 I just don't think I would drive in that environment. 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:14.839 Like I just think that it was just like too 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:17.920 much going on, and there's just like first of all, 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:19.319 like going in, like I don't think that there was 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:21.160 no one there that was like I this is who 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:23.400 I want to go for, And like what I was 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:26.200 saying before, like there's I mean I was there, but okay, 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:29.880 taking already, come on, you too much of a hot 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:35.160 Come on, there's no chance for me. I'm too much 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:39.680 of a taker anyway, never would have worked. But like 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:41.559 there's just I think like Paradise is just so much 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:44.600 going on, and like it would just it would give 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:46.920 me too much. It's hard to go from experience, I 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:48.679 would imagine at least it's hard to go from your 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:51.360 first kiss with Colton on The Bachelor to then being 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:54.720 thrust onto the beach and like entertaining multiple relationships with 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:57.240 different people. If obviously you got there, I don't. Yeah, 0:10:57.240 --> 0:10:58.960 that's just not my thing. That's just not my thing. 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:01.200 I get that, Yeah, I think, And honestly, like like 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:03.720 I said, you had a good experience on the Bachelor, 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:06.880 and going on Paradise potentially could have ruined your experience 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:09.840 within the franchise. Maybe totally absolutely, Yeah, I could have 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:11.960 been just torn to shreds and has just been crying 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:13.480 every day and could have been terrible. Okay, so you 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:15.760 have your sisters, one older, one younger. They have forgotten 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:20.240 child in the middle, that middle child syndrome. People say 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:22.360 that like middle child syndrome. I don't even know. But um, 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:25.240 I'm like best friends of both my older sisters, and 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:28.600 so they're so different, Like my older sisters like very responsible, 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:31.080 the kindest human in the entire world, and my little 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:35.559 sisters like wild, like energetic, crazy, and I feel like 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:37.719 I'm like a little bit in between. We're all really 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:40.000 really close. Do you guys all live together? And no, 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:43.200 my my younger sister sister is a senior in college, 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:46.200 and then me and my older sister do live together. Yea. 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:49.120 What do you do for work? So I was a 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:54.680 project manager for an engineering company until recently and then 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:57.920 now I'm figuring out next steps. Yeah, that wasn't like 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:01.480 my um dream job. And there's like just too much 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.400 going on with everything that They kind of were like, Heather, 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:06.319 you kind of have to you kind of have to 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:08.760 choose like one or the other. Right, Well, so what 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:10.920 is your dream then? What do you plan on at 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:13.640 least I don't know entertaining me and my sisters. I've 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:15.880 always wanted to do something together, and my dad has 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:19.679 always been like an entrepreneur and has had multiple businesses, 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:22.880 and so we kind of talked about doing something together. 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:25.439 But what that is, I don't know. Yeah, I don't 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:27.080 know yet. Well, it's funny because when I went on 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:28.720 The Bachelor at the first time, I used to be 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:31.679 in tech recruiting, which similar to your project management experience. 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:33.720 I didn't love it, like I was good enough at 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:35.880 it to continue to have a total But I went 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:36.839 on the show and I was like, all right, I'm 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:38.679 gonna take some time off figure out what i want 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:40.880 to do. After a year or so, maybe i'll have 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:42.280 it figured out, and then dive right into that did 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:43.760 you stop this? Did you stop before you went on 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:47.480 the shower? After my career? Um, I left my job 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:50.480 in March seventeen and I have not been back. Okay, yeah, 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:53.640 so I basically just left the left my job to 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:55.800 figure it out. Didn't figure it out, and now I'm 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:58.000 just kind of in this weird purgatory phase. Okay, I 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:00.280 don't know what I want to do, and like you 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:02.079 as well, like you have this platform where you can 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:04.040 like trying to find a way to utilize it and 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:06.160 build something with it, but it's like, what exactly is 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:07.600 it going to Totally you know what I mean, that's 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:09.480 exactly where I am, um, and it's kind of a 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:12.200 tricky spot to be in. And actually my first for 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:14.640 the longest time, I was like super critical at myself, like, well, 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:15.960 i haven't not figured out what I want to do. 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:19.000 I'm like wasting time. I'm wasting this this ability and 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:22.840 this platform. Totally exactly how I feel. But it's just 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:24.480 like I don't know. It's a lot of pressure that 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:26.480 you put on yourself. So so you think that the 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:28.320 entrepreneurial spirit could run in your family and you want 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:30.319 to maybe start a business, Yes, that's like been the 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:32.600 dream forever, Like we've always said that what we want 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:34.280 to do. I don't know what that would entail. I 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:37.199 just love business. I love I study business marketing in 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:39.560 school and so something I've always wanted to do. And 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:41.680 it's cool now to have the time to kind of 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:44.000 like step away and figure it out, yes away and 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:45.360 figure it out and not have to work in nine 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:48.360 to five. And you know, I feel the furried out, 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:51.000 but I haven't yet. I still don't know. So we'll see. 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:54.520 You get a lot to figure out. How old are you? 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:57.480 You're a baby baby. I know. You got to figure 0:13:57.520 --> 0:13:59.000 out what you're gonna do with your career. You gotta 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:00.520 figure out who you're gonna do it. You got to 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:04.080 figure out it's the word. Do you like living in 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:06.440 San Diego? I do? I love San Diego was like 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:08.760 my favorite. Do you like like that? Okay, we're gonna 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:11.080 keep We're gonna keep this like dating centric, right because 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:15.240 obviously doing podcast, you're the celebrity co host today, so 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:16.880 obviously we just want to get to know you as 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:19.240 a listener and me as a fellow co host with you. 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:23.520 So would your type be like the surfer like San 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:26.920 Diego laid back kind of person or I always said 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:29.920 I liked the surfer, but now I'm realizing maybe not 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:33.480 so much. I feel like, I feel like I I 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:35.200 like the vibe and I like the look and I 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:38.800 like all that, but I feel like I've noticed they're 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:43.080 not typically typically they're not as like driven and like 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:46.640 you know, yeah, they're just like go to the beach 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:49.080 of the morning, do whatever they do. And I like that, 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:51.680 but like and I love that personality, but like for 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:55.560 like life, I feel like I'm super driven and want 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:57.480 to do want you want someone to be a little 0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:00.320 more motivated and motivated? Me too, because I can getting 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:03.440 that way where I can be like not as driven, 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:05.360 but I feel like naturally I am. So it's like 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:07.560 I need someone else to help me with you. Will 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:10.360 you look at Have you ever met Dylan Barber? He's 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:14.800 from he lives in Sandy, super motivated, his vibes, and 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.160 he's a surfer. Yeah him, Hannah a perfect Who were 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:19.360 some of your really good friends from the season A Bachelor? Um? 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:23.800 I was really close with both the Hannah's, Um, Demi, Tasia, 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:26.920 um Katie. You could have just used the paradise as 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:28.640 an excuse to hang with all of them. I know, 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:35.080 would I feel like paradise? Did you enjoy Paradise both times? 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:37.560 Like where they? Would you recommend it for me? Like? 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:40.280 If from knowing me for these ten minutes, where do 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:42.600 you think it would begin? No, youhould probably stay the way. No, 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:44.400 I'm just kidding. I think that you can go if 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:47.320 you go to Paradise with the mindset of like you 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:49.880 want to have fun, the ability to meet someone obviously 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:51.800 is great, But like, I think a lot of people 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:53.560 put a lot of pressure on themselves, like they go 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:54.800 and they're like, Okay, I'm going to leave in a 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:57.880 relationship even if the person isn't perfectly right for me totally. Yeah, 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:00.560 I've seen yeah, I've heard about that, right, And that's 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:03.960 why you see a lot of breakups post Bachelor in Paradise, right. 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:05.440 So I think if you were to ever do it 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:10.000 next year, perhaps, um, depending on how this Bachelortte season goes, 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:11.480 and if there's any guys that you like that would 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:16.920 go and whatever. Um, just don't sacrifice your your standards 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:19.880 for the potential for a relationship, you know what I mean, 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:21.640 because a lot of people are like, like, even, that's 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:23.120 actually the reason why I left Caylin on the Beach 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:24.880 the first time was because I was like, our lives 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:29.520 would never really mesh well together. Um. Obviously I was 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:32.680 wrong about that because things are going well. But a 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:34.240 lot of people are like, Okay, I'm gonna like put 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:37.200 all of these requirements aside because I want to try 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:38.880 this relationship out, and that's why they end up not 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:41.920 working out. So don't sacrifice your your standards for that. 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.920 And also just like have fun with it. My my 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:47.360 two experiences are just so different because the first time, 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:50.360 I was like in this weird, like self discovery phase 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:52.280 where I was like drinking a lot and I just 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:54.560 wanted to have fun and I like two girls and 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:56.200 I didn't know what to do. And then the second time, 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:57.640 I was like, I am who I am. I'm going 0:16:57.680 --> 0:16:59.200 to stay sober the whole time and just like make 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:02.360 conscious decisions. Um. I always encourage people to do it. 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:04.320 I always think it's it was a great experience, good 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:07.320 and bad. Obviously a lot more good game this time 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:09.720 than the last time. But um, I don't know. I 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:12.240 would encourage you to do it. If you're single and 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:15.359 around tune of two twenty they fall you to come 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:18.320 on the show. I don't see why not. Okay, there's 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:20.040 nothing really holding you back, you know what I mean? 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:22.760 Like I just feel like people have left and just 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:26.360 have been so traumatized. Yeah, like I've I've just seen that. 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:29.560 What do you mean, like traumatized by like production or everything, 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:32.280 just like the experience as a whole. Yeah, did you 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:34.320 have a different mindset going in the first time than 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:35.760 going in the second time. I'm just like such a 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:37.640 veteran at this point where I just I don't know, 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:40.560