Speaker 1: Hell, I suck at Dating with Dean Angler and I
Speaker 1: heart radio podcast. Boy oh boy, have I missed that introduction.
Speaker 1: It's short and sweet, straight to the point. It's really
Speaker 1: only mentioning the one person we all care about. I
Speaker 1: eat me. I think my vanity has gone through the
Speaker 1: roof these days, and I'm just yes, thank you. That's
Speaker 1: what everyone's supposed to applaud. If you're listening at home,
Speaker 1: please just start putting your hands together for me. I'm
Speaker 1: your host today. But actually it's not just me hosting today.
Speaker 1: We have a very special co host. A guest celebrity
Speaker 1: co host is in studio with us today. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go ahead and extend this out for as long as
Speaker 1: I possibly can, to just milk it. You probably read
Speaker 1: it in the actually the episode information what is it
Speaker 1: called the description of the episode of who the guest
Speaker 1: co host is. She is beloved in the Bachelor franchise.
Speaker 1: She honestly, we haven't seen enough of her, and I'm
Speaker 1: we're gonna dive into a little bit about why we
Speaker 1: haven't seen more of her, but we have. Heather Am
Speaker 1: from Colton, c is in co hosting today. Everyone give
Speaker 1: a round of applause. I guess, how's it going? How
Speaker 1: to give yourself a round of applause? You're too humble
Speaker 1: once you If you want to host a podcast, you
Speaker 1: have to be more into yourself. You know perfect. How
Speaker 1: are you good? How are you doing? I'm good? Thank
Speaker 1: you for asking. We were just barely talking before this
Speaker 1: um started airing. I don't really know much about you, yes,
Speaker 1: and I think that's gonna be good because I want
Speaker 1: to just dive into your life. Who you are first
Speaker 1: and foremost. Why the heck did we not see you
Speaker 1: on Bachelor in Paradise. I don't think Paradise is for me.
Speaker 1: I think Paradise is a little too much. I think
Speaker 1: Bachelor was already kind of like a lot for me.
Speaker 1: Let's start with Bachelor. Okay, So for our listeners out there,
Speaker 1: you're listening to this podcast, you're probably more likely than
Speaker 1: not are a fan of The Bachelor, Bachelor at Bachelor
Speaker 1: in Paradise, etcetera. And Heather was on Colton season. Your
Speaker 1: big storyline was that you had never been kissed before.
Speaker 1: Can I just ask you a question? And I'm sure
Speaker 1: You've been asked a many times, have you really actually
Speaker 1: never been kissed? Up until that? Point, it was true.
Speaker 1: I had never been kissed. It was I don't know
Speaker 1: why I would make that up. That's just like making
Speaker 1: myself like work, kiss on the cheek, a kiss on
Speaker 1: the forehead, kiss on my hand probably, but like like
Speaker 1: a romantic one from your parents. Yeah, yes, exactly, not
Speaker 1: from my back. How does that? How can I ask?
Speaker 1: How does that happen? Because you're like, you're beautiful, and
Speaker 1: you seem like you seem very normal, like and charismatic.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Just you just have really insanely high standards. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's what I was worried about going in.
Speaker 1: I was like super concerning. I'm like, people are going
Speaker 1: to think I'm something like seriously wrong, like you seemed
Speaker 1: normal about Something's like, what's wrong with this girl? Because
Speaker 1: it's like so not normal. But like I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just think I'm super picky. I hadn't dated, like
Speaker 1: super seriously, and that's something that kind of meant something
Speaker 1: to me. So I just was I didn't want to
Speaker 1: get I hate hurting people, and I like, I just
Speaker 1: think it's like pointless and less like I'm really into someone.
Speaker 1: So did you go to a normal high school? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I went to public high school. I went to a
Speaker 1: private Christian school for college. Okay, so it was different, um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, normal high school. Like everything was pretty normal.
Speaker 1: I just like everyone I like encountered if they've found
Speaker 1: out there, like what's wrong with you? Like that's so weird?
Speaker 1: But was there? So there obviously was like a lot
Speaker 1: of pressure building up over time, and then you got
Speaker 1: to experience your first kiss on television, which is the
Speaker 1: probably the first time that's ever happened in the history
Speaker 1: of television. I know, I know. It was so terrified.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh. And I didn't really
Speaker 1: even like tell any of the girls. Like a few
Speaker 1: people knew, but I didn't tell anyone because I didn't
Speaker 1: want people have to like talk about it, and I
Speaker 1: didn't want it to be like a conversation like people
Speaker 1: are talk negatively or because it seems like every season
Speaker 1: there's like a virgin and that's like a big central storyline.
Speaker 1: Colton was the virgin on his season. Obviously, before that
Speaker 1: we had like Ashley, I, Becca, Tilly I Believe as well.
Speaker 1: And then you just took that and you just want
Speaker 1: up to which is which is awesome. Yeah. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, what they could do anything with this,
Speaker 1: and they did. I mean, were you were you really
Speaker 1: um like anxious about how they might edit the show
Speaker 1: after you got done filming. Um, I think before I
Speaker 1: was more nervous. I mean after they did more than
Speaker 1: I was expecting they were going to do. Like I
Speaker 1: didn't know what they could do because like all our
Speaker 1: conversations were like everything seemed totally normal and like it
Speaker 1: was great and nothing was like weird. And they did
Speaker 1: as much as they could to make it weird. I
Speaker 1: mean they really did. But like I wasn't too terrified,
Speaker 1: and they made the first kiss a huge spectacle, yeah,
Speaker 1: which I knew they were going to do. I knew
Speaker 1: that if that was going to happen, Like when I
Speaker 1: was going in, like I was aware of what was
Speaker 1: going to happen. So I was like, Okay, is this
Speaker 1: fine with me? Because like this is going to be
Speaker 1: the main thing. So do you drink? Yeah? You do? Okay,
Speaker 1: So on the show did you drink at all? I did, not,
Speaker 1: like excessively right, just like a couple of glasses of
Speaker 1: wine everywhile. Yeah, I like I like had champagne wine.
Speaker 1: But I wasn't like I wasn't trying to get No,
Speaker 1: I was not writing a little bit of a difference
Speaker 1: between you, you and me on the season because I
Speaker 1: was drinking to get drunk. No, no, no, Okay, So
Speaker 1: obviously the podcast is called help I Suck a Dating?
Speaker 1: I don't do you suck at dating? I mean apparently
Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, no, no no, because here's the here's
Speaker 1: the difference. Why I don't think you probably suck at
Speaker 1: dating is because you haven't. You hadn't been kissed going
Speaker 1: into the Bachelor season, not because you didn't have the
Speaker 1: ability to be kissed, but just because you didn't want
Speaker 1: to kiss anyone, right, Yeah, So I don't think that
Speaker 1: means you suck at dating. I think that just means
Speaker 1: you've got great standards. Well like you. Yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: like I just like, don't I feel like a second
Speaker 1: dating because I just don't really, I don't date a time.
Speaker 1: I don't like dating. Dating is not fun for me.
Speaker 1: And you live in Orange County Okay? Is that new?
Speaker 1: Because I felt you always lived in like Long Beach area,
Speaker 1: Slevin Karl's dad says, North County, San Diego. I see you, okay,
Speaker 1: and so okay, so tell me how you got in
Speaker 1: the bachelor in the first place. So my sister sent
Speaker 1: in like a joke audition tape. It was like a
Speaker 1: complete joke, Like it was like filming me when I
Speaker 1: didn't know I was being filmed. You have a twin sister, No,
Speaker 1: but she looks like Okay, I have an older sister
Speaker 1: in a young her sister. We're all two years apart. Um,
Speaker 1: my older sister who doesn't look as much like me.
Speaker 1: She sent in a video as like a complete joke,
Speaker 1: like a compilation of like weird videos of me, and
Speaker 1: then like a fake interview that I was just completely joking.
Speaker 1: But then she sent it in and then um, I
Speaker 1: got a call and met with them, but that was
Speaker 1: like months before and then like two weeks before filming
Speaker 1: started they got I got another call and they're like, hey,
Speaker 1: based on who it is, like, we want you to
Speaker 1: be Bachelor. So I like, yeah, and you were. Were
Speaker 1: you excited to have Colton as a bachelor. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that's the reason I was. I don't think I
Speaker 1: would have been on the show if it wasn't for Colton.
Speaker 1: I think that that's the reason I was there. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, he seemed super cool and someone would be
Speaker 1: interested in so I was really excited. And then so
Speaker 1: my my issue with watching Bachelor and Bachelorrette. I'm super
Speaker 1: into it for the first like four or five to
Speaker 1: six weeks, and then as like it's like whittled down,
Speaker 1: I like lose interest because I don't know why. I think,
Speaker 1: which vice versa for me, Like don't you feel like
Speaker 1: you get more invested after I just I like to
Speaker 1: see like the fun moments of the drama type moved
Speaker 1: more than like the actual and as it gets closer
Speaker 1: to like hometowns and stuff like that, like it gets
Speaker 1: more serious, and I just like, as a viewer kind
Speaker 1: of get less interested because I just like to like
Speaker 1: the cheap laughs, court or something, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So you watch it for a different reason than like
Speaker 1: a lot of people watch it. I feel like it's
Speaker 1: like like some people watch a funny jama and the
Speaker 1: laughs and like that, and then the other half like
Speaker 1: don't want any of that. They just want the love story, right.
Speaker 1: I agree? I agree? Um, okay, So what was your
Speaker 1: experience like then? Did you enjoy it? Because it can
Speaker 1: go either way, it seems like from a viewers perspective
Speaker 1: that you like you did well for yourself, Like you
Speaker 1: didn't really come across as like weird or cringe e
Speaker 1: or you didn't make like a fool of yourself. Well everyone,
Speaker 1: but you didn't like make a fool of yourself, which
Speaker 1: is hard to do weirdly, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You kind of like left it just the right time
Speaker 1: where I don't know, you don't have to go to
Speaker 1: the hometowns and put yourself out there that sort of way,
Speaker 1: but you still had I don't know, what was it, Like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had so much fun. I kind of went into
Speaker 1: it with like the perspective of like it was so quick,
Speaker 1: so I was like, Okay, I have no idea what
Speaker 1: I'm doing. I'm just gonna like take each day each
Speaker 1: week and like have fun with it and just see
Speaker 1: where it goes. So literally every week I was like
Speaker 1: see you guys. Like I did not think I was
Speaker 1: gonna be there every single week, which I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's good or bad, But I was just like
Speaker 1: trying to like have the time in my life and
Speaker 1: enjoy every single day and like be in that day
Speaker 1: rather than like stress about the future and what was
Speaker 1: going to happen. So I had the best time I
Speaker 1: had so much fun. There's got it okay, and yes you,
Speaker 1: as you alluded to, maybe Paradise wasn't the spot for
Speaker 1: you to go and find love. So what has dating
Speaker 1: like been like for you after Golden Season? Are you dating?
Speaker 1: I honestly haven't dated that much, so it's like basically
Speaker 1: just resume back to status quite normal, I know, which
Speaker 1: is bad, which is why it's like a dating Why
Speaker 1: Why don't you like to date? I just I mean
Speaker 1: I I would like to date someone I was interested in,
Speaker 1: like I really liked. I just don't like to date
Speaker 1: like I feel like for me, I know, like when
Speaker 1: I meet someone I know, maybe I don't, but I
Speaker 1: feel like I know immediately, like this is not gonna
Speaker 1: be a thing, And like I don't want to just
Speaker 1: date because like they're attractive or they're fun, Like I
Speaker 1: just I want to date with the intention of something
Speaker 1: serious or marriage or whatever. I don't want to just
Speaker 1: date for fun because it's just like I would rather
Speaker 1: spend time with someone that's going to be my life,
Speaker 1: like my friends or sisters or something. Yeah, Like people
Speaker 1: that I know are gonna be life forever. And if
Speaker 1: I know that this person is not, like it seems
Speaker 1: like almost like a waste to me. So what type
Speaker 1: of person would you be interested in dating? Then? Like,
Speaker 1: what is your type like like personality wise? Well yeah, okay, look,
Speaker 1: let's I've got some friends that are single. I'm curious
Speaker 1: if I can maybe set you up with any of them.
Speaker 1: I like someone who's really like, um fun and goofy
Speaker 1: and doesn't take themselves too seriously, but is super kind
Speaker 1: and um like, thinks about others, like someone who's like
Speaker 1: a servant's heart, like they think about others before themselves.
Speaker 1: And just someone who's just fun and lighthearted. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: Let'm racking my brain. My friends like that Tori shaking
Speaker 1: her head now, and she's probably right. Most of my
Speaker 1: friends are not givers. I'm trying to think I might
Speaker 1: have a couple of guys. Okay, So you didn't go
Speaker 1: to Paradise. We missed you on Paradise, which I was
Speaker 1: just talking to Killing about this the other day. I
Speaker 1: was like, why the heck wasn't Heather at Paradise, Like
Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense to me, and you're just saying
Speaker 1: it just wasn't your environment. You just didn't want to go.
Speaker 1: I just don't think I would drive in that environment.
Speaker 1: Like I just think that it was just like too
Speaker 1: much going on, and there's just like first of all,
Speaker 1: like going in, like I don't think that there was
Speaker 1: no one there that was like I this is who
Speaker 1: I want to go for, And like what I was
Speaker 1: saying before, like there's I mean I was there, but okay,
Speaker 1: taking already, come on, you too much of a hot
Speaker 1: Come on, there's no chance for me. I'm too much
Speaker 1: of a taker anyway, never would have worked. But like
Speaker 1: there's just I think like Paradise is just so much
Speaker 1: going on, and like it would just it would give
Speaker 1: me too much. It's hard to go from experience, I
Speaker 1: would imagine at least it's hard to go from your
Speaker 1: first kiss with Colton on The Bachelor to then being
Speaker 1: thrust onto the beach and like entertaining multiple relationships with
Speaker 1: different people. If obviously you got there, I don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's just not my thing. That's just not my thing.
Speaker 1: I get that, Yeah, I think, And honestly, like like
Speaker 1: I said, you had a good experience on the Bachelor,
Speaker 1: and going on Paradise potentially could have ruined your experience
Speaker 1: within the franchise. Maybe totally absolutely, Yeah, I could have
Speaker 1: been just torn to shreds and has just been crying
Speaker 1: every day and could have been terrible. Okay, so you
Speaker 1: have your sisters, one older, one younger. They have forgotten
Speaker 1: child in the middle, that middle child syndrome. People say
Speaker 1: that like middle child syndrome. I don't even know. But um,
Speaker 1: I'm like best friends of both my older sisters, and
Speaker 1: so they're so different, Like my older sisters like very responsible,
Speaker 1: the kindest human in the entire world, and my little
Speaker 1: sisters like wild, like energetic, crazy, and I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm like a little bit in between. We're all really
Speaker 1: really close. Do you guys all live together? And no,
Speaker 1: my my younger sister sister is a senior in college,
Speaker 1: and then me and my older sister do live together. Yea.
Speaker 1: What do you do for work? So I was a
Speaker 1: project manager for an engineering company until recently and then
Speaker 1: now I'm figuring out next steps. Yeah, that wasn't like
Speaker 1: my um dream job. And there's like just too much
Speaker 1: going on with everything that They kind of were like, Heather,
Speaker 1: you kind of have to you kind of have to
Speaker 1: choose like one or the other. Right, Well, so what
Speaker 1: is your dream then? What do you plan on at
Speaker 1: least I don't know entertaining me and my sisters. I've
Speaker 1: always wanted to do something together, and my dad has
Speaker 1: always been like an entrepreneur and has had multiple businesses,
Speaker 1: and so we kind of talked about doing something together.
Speaker 1: But what that is, I don't know. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know yet. Well, it's funny because when I went on
Speaker 1: The Bachelor at the first time, I used to be
Speaker 1: in tech recruiting, which similar to your project management experience.
Speaker 1: I didn't love it, like I was good enough at
Speaker 1: it to continue to have a total But I went
Speaker 1: on the show and I was like, all right, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take some time off figure out what i want
Speaker 1: to do. After a year or so, maybe i'll have
Speaker 1: it figured out, and then dive right into that did
Speaker 1: you stop this? Did you stop before you went on
Speaker 1: the shower? After my career? Um, I left my job
Speaker 1: in March seventeen and I have not been back. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I basically just left the left my job to
Speaker 1: figure it out. Didn't figure it out, and now I'm
Speaker 1: just kind of in this weird purgatory phase. Okay, I
Speaker 1: don't know what I want to do, and like you
Speaker 1: as well, like you have this platform where you can
Speaker 1: like trying to find a way to utilize it and
Speaker 1: build something with it, but it's like, what exactly is
Speaker 1: it going to Totally you know what I mean, that's
Speaker 1: exactly where I am, um, and it's kind of a
Speaker 1: tricky spot to be in. And actually my first for
Speaker 1: the longest time, I was like super critical at myself, like, well,
Speaker 1: i haven't not figured out what I want to do.
Speaker 1: I'm like wasting time. I'm wasting this this ability and
Speaker 1: this platform. Totally exactly how I feel. But it's just
Speaker 1: like I don't know. It's a lot of pressure that
Speaker 1: you put on yourself. So so you think that the
Speaker 1: entrepreneurial spirit could run in your family and you want
Speaker 1: to maybe start a business, Yes, that's like been the
Speaker 1: dream forever, Like we've always said that what we want
Speaker 1: to do. I don't know what that would entail. I
Speaker 1: just love business. I love I study business marketing in
Speaker 1: school and so something I've always wanted to do. And
Speaker 1: it's cool now to have the time to kind of
Speaker 1: like step away and figure it out, yes away and
Speaker 1: figure it out and not have to work in nine
Speaker 1: to five. And you know, I feel the furried out,
Speaker 1: but I haven't yet. I still don't know. So we'll see.
Speaker 1: You get a lot to figure out. How old are you?
Speaker 1: You're a baby baby. I know. You got to figure
Speaker 1: out what you're gonna do with your career. You gotta
Speaker 1: figure out who you're gonna do it. You got to
Speaker 1: figure out it's the word. Do you like living in
Speaker 1: San Diego? I do? I love San Diego was like
Speaker 1: my favorite. Do you like like that? Okay, we're gonna
Speaker 1: keep We're gonna keep this like dating centric, right because
Speaker 1: obviously doing podcast, you're the celebrity co host today, so
Speaker 1: obviously we just want to get to know you as
Speaker 1: a listener and me as a fellow co host with you.
Speaker 1: So would your type be like the surfer like San
Speaker 1: Diego laid back kind of person or I always said
Speaker 1: I liked the surfer, but now I'm realizing maybe not
Speaker 1: so much. I feel like, I feel like I I
Speaker 1: like the vibe and I like the look and I
Speaker 1: like all that, but I feel like I've noticed they're
Speaker 1: not typically typically they're not as like driven and like
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, they're just like go to the beach
Speaker 1: of the morning, do whatever they do. And I like that,
Speaker 1: but like and I love that personality, but like for
Speaker 1: like life, I feel like I'm super driven and want
Speaker 1: to do want you want someone to be a little
Speaker 1: more motivated and motivated? Me too, because I can getting
Speaker 1: that way where I can be like not as driven,
Speaker 1: but I feel like naturally I am. So it's like
Speaker 1: I need someone else to help me with you. Will
Speaker 1: you look at Have you ever met Dylan Barber? He's
Speaker 1: from he lives in Sandy, super motivated, his vibes, and
Speaker 1: he's a surfer. Yeah him, Hannah a perfect Who were
Speaker 1: some of your really good friends from the season A Bachelor? Um?
Speaker 1: I was really close with both the Hannah's, Um, Demi, Tasia,
Speaker 1: um Katie. You could have just used the paradise as
Speaker 1: an excuse to hang with all of them. I know,
Speaker 1: would I feel like paradise? Did you enjoy Paradise both times?
Speaker 1: Like where they? Would you recommend it for me? Like?
Speaker 1: If from knowing me for these ten minutes, where do
Speaker 1: you think it would begin? No, youhould probably stay the way. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I think that you can go if
Speaker 1: you go to Paradise with the mindset of like you
Speaker 1: want to have fun, the ability to meet someone obviously
Speaker 1: is great, But like, I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: put a lot of pressure on themselves, like they go
Speaker 1: and they're like, Okay, I'm going to leave in a
Speaker 1: relationship even if the person isn't perfectly right for me totally. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've seen yeah, I've heard about that, right, And that's
Speaker 1: why you see a lot of breakups post Bachelor in Paradise, right.
Speaker 1: So I think if you were to ever do it
Speaker 1: next year, perhaps, um, depending on how this Bachelortte season goes,
Speaker 1: and if there's any guys that you like that would
Speaker 1: go and whatever. Um, just don't sacrifice your your standards
Speaker 1: for the potential for a relationship, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because a lot of people are like, like, even, that's
Speaker 1: actually the reason why I left Caylin on the Beach
Speaker 1: the first time was because I was like, our lives
Speaker 1: would never really mesh well together. Um. Obviously I was
Speaker 1: wrong about that because things are going well. But a
Speaker 1: lot of people are like, Okay, I'm gonna like put
Speaker 1: all of these requirements aside because I want to try
Speaker 1: this relationship out, and that's why they end up not
Speaker 1: working out. So don't sacrifice your your standards for that.
Speaker 1: And also just like have fun with it. My my
Speaker 1: two experiences are just so different because the first time,
Speaker 1: I was like in this weird, like self discovery phase
Speaker 1: where I was like drinking a lot and I just
Speaker 1: wanted to have fun and I like two girls and
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to do. And then the second time,
Speaker 1: I was like, I am who I am. I'm going
Speaker 1: to stay sober the whole time and just like make
Speaker 1: conscious decisions. Um. I always encourage people to do it.
Speaker 1: I always think it's it was a great experience, good
Speaker 1: and bad. Obviously a lot more good game this time
Speaker 1: than the last time. But um, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: would encourage you to do it. If you're single and
Speaker 1: around tune of two twenty they fall you to come
Speaker 1: on the show. I don't see why not. Okay, there's
Speaker 1: nothing really holding you back, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like I just feel like people have left and just
Speaker 1: have been so traumatized. Yeah, like I've I've just seen that.
Speaker 1: What do you mean, like traumatized by like production or everything,
Speaker 1: just like the experience as a whole. Yeah, did you
Speaker 1: have a different mindset going in the first time than
Speaker 1: going in the second time. I'm just like such a
Speaker 1: veteran at this point where I just I don't know,
Speaker 1: well because like obviously Kaylin was on the season with you,
Speaker 1: so she's basically fresher into the Bachelor world and this
Speaker 1: is I've been in it for like two and a
Speaker 1: half years, and so I was kind of able to
Speaker 1: like help her form of perspective on how meaningless a
Speaker 1: lot of this stuff is. But we always do we
Speaker 1: kind of get like this weird syndrome where we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is like the most important thing to possibly happen,
Speaker 1: and like people are gonna have this weird opinion of me.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. It just says it's a lot
Speaker 1: of it's just so like meaningless and we put a
Speaker 1: lot of emphasis on stuff that isn't really very important. Anyways,
Speaker 1: I totally agree, and so yeah, so I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think like for me, I was it's just like
Speaker 1: if I do didn't see someone there, I was like
Speaker 1: I felt like it almost was me purposeless to go
Speaker 1: and I'm like what if I do, Like, what is
Speaker 1: my motivation behind me going? Like if I'm if I
Speaker 1: really don't you get more Instagram followers? There? You go
Speaker 1: take a couple of take a couple more months off
Speaker 1: of trying to find that dream job of yours. I
Speaker 1: don't know, like, honestly, whatever, you make a little bit
Speaker 1: of money while you're at it. There, Um, let's see.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you some more questions about your
Speaker 1: potential partner, because I think he's out there and I
Speaker 1: think we can find him, and I think we can
Speaker 1: use this podcast as a platform to figure that out there.
Speaker 1: I haven't tried that one yet. I'm just gonna go
Speaker 1: ahead and say this. There have been throughout the life's lifetimes,
Speaker 1: um well, throughout the lifespan of this podcast past. I've
Speaker 1: I've hosted, Jared's hosted, and Vanessa, We've all hosted it
Speaker 1: obviously one time or another. Vanessa is no longer with us,
Speaker 1: Rest in peace. But she is no longer with us
Speaker 1: because she doesn't suck at dating anymore. She's in a
Speaker 1: loving relationship with her boyfriend. Jared is married to the
Speaker 1: love of his life. I'm dating someone. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: this podcast breeds success to that's actually crazy. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: actually really crazy. And so now is your turn to
Speaker 1: come in here and we're gonna find someone. You need
Speaker 1: to learn a few things first, We're gonna find a
Speaker 1: laid back surfer dude that lives in silk Out, but
Speaker 1: it is still super motivated, basically Dylan Barber's clone. So, Dylan,
Speaker 1: if you're out there listening to this and you have
Speaker 1: any friends, maybe in the um in the founder sphere,
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly, but we'll find someone. Um Heller,
Speaker 1: What are you gonna be folloween this year? No? I
Speaker 1: haven't really thought about it. I need to figure it out.
Speaker 1: What's today? Today? Is the twenty eight nine. They've Croctober Baby.
Speaker 1: I wanted to have into Coractober later. Al Right, okay,
Speaker 1: we're going to devote a whole segment to Coarctober. What
Speaker 1: are you gonna be following? You know? Um? Well, I
Speaker 1: dressed up already as Oh my gosh, that was so good.
Speaker 1: I saw that. That was amazing. That was really amazing.
Speaker 1: My nails are still painted. That was so good. And
Speaker 1: the color of the dress was it was everything. It
Speaker 1: was perfect. I'm not on Amazon for ten bucks ten
Speaker 1: bucks steel. My legs are getting very prickly. I shaved
Speaker 1: my legs for the dress. Did you really did you
Speaker 1: keep your arms normal? I cut my arms normal? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you could did you could you not fend the Kitlin's
Speaker 1: normal dress? Heard the one? No, I went on the
Speaker 1: internet in ordered extra large off of Amazon out. I
Speaker 1: could not forget who has more attracted to I did
Speaker 1: feel beautiful, and honestly, a lot of my friends were
Speaker 1: like hitting on me all night. It is kind of weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah anyways, um that was our holllyween costume. But wait,
Speaker 1: so you don't know what you're gonna be. I don't
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna be at now. Have you do you
Speaker 1: party a lot? No? And okay, yeah, no, I mean
Speaker 1: not like yeah, well, you know, like a lot of
Speaker 1: girls that are like early twenties living in southern California
Speaker 1: go to the clubs every weekend. I think it's that's
Speaker 1: not that's not me. I think it's like unattractive with
Speaker 1: people party a lot. That's just that's just not what
Speaker 1: I enjoy. I mean, yeah, I don't know. I've got
Speaker 1: through my whole face. It's over when I was in it.
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, but no, I think it's good that you party,
Speaker 1: do you? Um, so you don't like take Halloween too seriously?
Speaker 1: Have you and your sisters ever done like a like
Speaker 1: a sister costume? Like the three Musketeers. We were grapes
Speaker 1: one year, so we like all did like these giant
Speaker 1: grapes costumes. I think when we're younger, we used to
Speaker 1: like dress like my mom used to like dress us
Speaker 1: up in the same cost or themes or whatever. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so you really have no Halloween plans? I do have.
Speaker 1: I'm going somewhere. I just need to figure out a costume.
Speaker 1: I think we've talked about it. You know, we're two
Speaker 1: days away from I'm really bad, I'm like the day before.
Speaker 1: Usually my older sister is like the respond when she
Speaker 1: we always we always are together typically, and so she
Speaker 1: like plans it some kind of relying on her. She
Speaker 1: like makes stuff and like figures it all out. So okay, well,
Speaker 1: hopefully it works for you. In a word, something always
Speaker 1: comes together, right. I mean I'm always that way as well.
Speaker 1: But there's always something to be said about, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of just doing something crazy dress up, like a
Speaker 1: what can we do? What's your What should Heather be
Speaker 1: for Halloween this year? Heather? You should be Um, let's see,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at you right now, start taping your eyes
Speaker 1: into your soul. I could see he's the statue of Liberty.
Speaker 1: Similar freedom and hope for everybody. You know, a beacon. Um,
Speaker 1: I could also see you as Let's see, I have
Speaker 1: ever done like a like a blonde bombshell movie star
Speaker 1: like Marilyn Monroe type. You've ever done that? I haven't
Speaker 1: something to do. You do the dress with a blowing
Speaker 1: up and everything cut my hair? Maybe? Yeah? Yeah? Well
Speaker 1: never mind what you should dress up as the dog
Speaker 1: that helped find bag Daddy. That'd be pretty good. You know. No,
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that is. I don't know
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. To get it was very into
Speaker 1: it back Daddy is a leader vice as he got.
Speaker 1: He was killed a couple of days ago. Was a
Speaker 1: dog involved? Oh yeah, he like Trump. Even Twee tweeted
Speaker 1: about a picture of the dog. Yeah, okay, that's perfect.
Speaker 1: I don't know it's a dog. It's a hero dog.
Speaker 1: Who doesn't want to dress up as a hero dog? Um? Okay,
Speaker 1: well so no Halloween costume yet? Are you doing something
Speaker 1: folloween this year? I'm going to I go to Mexico tomorrow,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna be celebrating Dia Davis Morts in Monterey
Speaker 1: are with No Calin's not coming with me on this trip,
Speaker 1: I'm actually going to Mexico. There's a national park down
Speaker 1: there called Petro Chico, which is like just outside of Hidalgo,
Speaker 1: and it's just like a really good rock climbing area.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna go down there for about two weeks
Speaker 1: with me and some friends. Um so, Dia Davis Morantoes
Speaker 1: should be fun. I think that we're going to paint
Speaker 1: their faces and hopefully try and get into spirit of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's although we've been doing well, not we
Speaker 1: but I've been doing a lot of reading up on
Speaker 1: Hidalgo and Monterey, Mexico recently, and uh, it's pretty sketchy
Speaker 1: down there. Like I just got sent an article about
Speaker 1: eighteen people that were found dismembered sitting at the bottom
Speaker 1: of a well literally in Hidalgo, which is the town
Speaker 1: that we're staying in to go rout climbing pture Chico.
Speaker 1: It was in two twelve, I think, but still, like,
Speaker 1: you know, that's kind of eighteen people. They were like
Speaker 1: all members of a band. Just before that, I read
Speaker 1: an article about how the police force was arrested and
Speaker 1: thrown in jail or fired because of just like, um,
Speaker 1: what's it called like just bat like foul play, like
Speaker 1: the police force was helping like smuggle drugs and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. Just rampant corruption. What's what's the most dangerous
Speaker 1: place you visited now in terms of just personal safety? Well,
Speaker 1: probably will be Hidalgo. Not the Hidalgo we know from
Speaker 1: the Vigo Mortenson movie about the horse, right, No, that's
Speaker 1: a great movie though. Wasn't that the movie about the dog?
Speaker 1: It was? You know you love dogs? Now it's about
Speaker 1: a horse. No, what's the dog? What's the one with
Speaker 1: the wolf dog in the in the cold fault? Yeah,
Speaker 1: couldn't cut that part out. I'm really embarrassed. Um. Also
Speaker 1: Egypt maybe what it might have been one of the
Speaker 1: more dangerous places. Yeah? Are you do you fancy yourself
Speaker 1: a world traveler? Not crazy? I've went to Europe? Um,
Speaker 1: what's part of Europe? Asia? I went to Italy where
Speaker 1: in Italy we went all across Italy so into like Rome, Florence, Venice.
Speaker 1: What do you think of Venice? I love Venice? Did
Speaker 1: you go to the Dolomites? I don't remember. Would you
Speaker 1: like so much a while ago? Would you like so
Speaker 1: much about Venice? It was just not I think Venice
Speaker 1: is like one of those places. Honestly, it was different
Speaker 1: than I was expecting, Like I was thinking it was
Speaker 1: going to be like something different, but it was just
Speaker 1: like a place I've always wanted to go. So it's
Speaker 1: kind of magical. Did you eat like a bunch of
Speaker 1: pizza and pasta and stuff? Yeah, the entire time. That's
Speaker 1: the best. We gotta figure. We've got to nail down
Speaker 1: what you're gonna be doing, because I think you're just
Speaker 1: for everything for Halloween, for dating. Way have a question
Speaker 1: what was different about Kalin? Because I know you've had
Speaker 1: struggles dating before, So what was different about Kaylin and
Speaker 1: your relationship and everything with her that that changed you.
Speaker 1: She's asking some good questions over here. I like that.
Speaker 1: I need advice. Um, what was it about Kalin? Uh?
Speaker 1: Caitlin's got some snark to her, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like she can she can be a real sometimes and
Speaker 1: damn it and turn it turns me on more than
Speaker 1: more than anything, because I've tried. I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know. She's just like fun to hang out with,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Did she typically like the
Speaker 1: sweet girl? And then Klin was the sweet girl? But
Speaker 1: then she was also like she has a little fast
Speaker 1: to Um. It's this is weird for the listener that
Speaker 1: can't see into the studio. Right now, Calin is actually
Speaker 1: sitting directly across from me, and so it's kind of
Speaker 1: hard for me to talk about her, uh you know,
Speaker 1: with her sitting right there, because yeah, she would listen
Speaker 1: to it anyways, it doesn't matter. It's like with her
Speaker 1: sitting there, it makes me want to be more critical
Speaker 1: of her, you know what I mean, Like if she
Speaker 1: wasn't here, I'd be saying super nice things about her.
Speaker 1: Um what, No, you can stay Um, Yes, to your point,
Speaker 1: I've I've a lot of the people that I've dated
Speaker 1: have been like, I don't know how to say this,
Speaker 1: but like they've been not that Calin is not sensitive,
Speaker 1: but they've been a little bit more sensitive to like
Speaker 1: my my jokes and just my humor and just me
Speaker 1: as a person. And what's great about Kalin is she can,
Speaker 1: uh for the most part, handle my sarcasm and my
Speaker 1: snydness and all this stuff. And sometimes she obviously like
Speaker 1: I take it a little too far. Sometimes I just
Speaker 1: kind of pushed the boundaries consistently to see how far
Speaker 1: I can go. Um. But she's able to also just
Speaker 1: like throw it back at me too, which is really great,
Speaker 1: which I really appreciate. So I saw a little bit
Speaker 1: of that when I was down in Paradise the first time,
Speaker 1: but I was like so stuck in my way as
Speaker 1: of not wanting to leave in a relationship. Actually, funny
Speaker 1: enough to what you said earlier is I kind of
Speaker 1: felt guilty for being down there wasting people's time because
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not going to date to these people,
Speaker 1: especially like I've been in the Bachelor realm for so long.
Speaker 1: I've dated enough people to know that, like, none of
Speaker 1: these are my people, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, and so I felt like I was
Speaker 1: wasting my time. I felt like I was wasting her time.
Speaker 1: Fun Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I had fun and then
Speaker 1: I laughed, and then I was like, oh crap, I
Speaker 1: think I made their own decision. So I came back. Um,
Speaker 1: and obviously it's it's been working out pretty well so far.
Speaker 1: But yeah, there's like there's I don't know there I
Speaker 1: I she's like hiding side. I Uh, I can be
Speaker 1: myself around her, which is a nice shape. Yes, you
Speaker 1: felt like you're like she like gets your sarcasm and
Speaker 1: gets your jokes in. She's working on getting Yeah. But
Speaker 1: also I've I've learned a lot about myself in the
Speaker 1: past two years, so, like, not to take away from
Speaker 1: any of my past relationships, but it was hard for
Speaker 1: me to really like I guess, um, I feel comfortable
Speaker 1: in a relationship because I was still learning so much
Speaker 1: about myself. So I think that might be kind of
Speaker 1: where you might be too, is because you're still like
Speaker 1: in this weird, like incredibly transformative stage of your life
Speaker 1: where you at twenty six is gonna be completely different
Speaker 1: than you at twenty four. So it's almost like dating
Speaker 1: someone now might be like kind of challenging, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Maybe I don't know. Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know either. I don't know. I feel like
Speaker 1: I know what I want, but maybe I don't. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that you don't know what you want,
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying that you are going to change
Speaker 1: so much the better. I never feel like I change,
Speaker 1: but maybe I do. I feel like I've been the
Speaker 1: same since I was like, would you ever date? Would
Speaker 1: you ever date a guy that was a fan of
Speaker 1: the Bachelor? Um, I feel like it's hard to say
Speaker 1: that you wouldn't because like I mean, like what if
Speaker 1: you met a guy out of the bar, or like
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't at a Sunday fish market,
Speaker 1: I don't know, the farmers farmers farmers market or something
Speaker 1: like that. And he goes, oh my god, I loved
Speaker 1: you on Colton season in the Bachelor, and you like
Speaker 1: spit off all these facts about you. He's like, I
Speaker 1: know you've never been kissed. I know this about you
Speaker 1: and this about you and this about you. Does that
Speaker 1: like turn you off? Or does that? Yeah? It does.
Speaker 1: I don't know why that. Yeah, that's happened a couple
Speaker 1: a couple of times, just like people like you know, like, oh,
Speaker 1: I feel like for me, which is probably bad, but
Speaker 1: I the only times I like, I really feel like
Speaker 1: I like someone is when I've seen them, I've liked them,
Speaker 1: that I've gone after them and like it's like almost
Speaker 1: like a prize to me. One that sounds terrible, but
Speaker 1: it's like it's like it's like I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: something and I think it's like, wow, I feel like
Speaker 1: there's so much better than me, and it sounds like
Speaker 1: they're like it's like unattainable exactly, and then I've like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, okay, have to get them to like
Speaker 1: me rather than this one likes me first, and like
Speaker 1: almost like guard up. So we need to find you
Speaker 1: a guy that's just so far out of your league.
Speaker 1: I don't think we're going to find that. We could.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think. I don't think
Speaker 1: there is such a thing as out of your league.
Speaker 1: I guess. Is the point that I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: to you what you mean. I'm just saying you're in
Speaker 1: a league of your own. It's gonna be hard to
Speaker 1: find a guy that surpasses that. I don't know, I
Speaker 1: think I think for sure at like someone I think
Speaker 1: is like, what about age wise? Is there any like
Speaker 1: age stipulations? Do they have to be around the same
Speaker 1: age as you? Can they be significantly older than you?
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what significantly What do you
Speaker 1: mean by significantly but at six year old guy? Who yeah,
Speaker 1: they maybe like fifty four, but now you're just like
Speaker 1: as long as yeah, yeah, I mean I don't probably
Speaker 1: not too much younger. We're significantly older. But have you
Speaker 1: had a boyfriend post high school? I dated one guy
Speaker 1: after college, after college relatively recently. Yeah, Okay, how did
Speaker 1: that go? He was great and he was so sweet
Speaker 1: and so kind and like everything I said I wanted
Speaker 1: on paper, but he just wasn't. It just wasn't there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I tried for a long time, like all my friends,
Speaker 1: he was in my friend group and all my friends
Speaker 1: like loved him, and he was amazing and so social
Speaker 1: and like everything I said I wanted, but like just
Speaker 1: just you know, there's just that connection that it was
Speaker 1: just like something that I kept trying. I was like,
Speaker 1: it's going to come, because like I hadn't had too
Speaker 1: much experience with that before. I always like push it off.
Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm going to try and like
Speaker 1: because I feel like maybe that's just how I am,
Speaker 1: you know, And I just let it go for too
Speaker 1: long before I'm like, Okay, this is ridiculous, Like I
Speaker 1: don't it's not there. Did you break his heart? I
Speaker 1: don't think so. I think he knew. I think it
Speaker 1: was kind of a long time. Gunman. How long did
Speaker 1: you guys date? For like six months? Like eight months,
Speaker 1: but it was like after six months, it was it
Speaker 1: was known, like it was it was like Okay, what
Speaker 1: do we do? This is where okay, and I'm sorry
Speaker 1: to bring it back to this. How do you date
Speaker 1: someone for eight months and not kissing? I know, I know,
Speaker 1: I know he knew. He knew. Like I was very open.
Speaker 1: It was almost like I was like, okay, like we
Speaker 1: can go on dates and like we'll go there. But
Speaker 1: like I'm like, back, no, he was intentionally pursuing me.
Speaker 1: It was just like it was almost like an intentional
Speaker 1: like an intentional friendship where I mean obviously because we
Speaker 1: weren't like, you know, like that, but he was pursuing me.
Speaker 1: He was taking me out on dates. He wasn't dating
Speaker 1: anyone else. Maybe he was doing what you want where
Speaker 1: he was like, Okay, Heather is the prize that I
Speaker 1: want to win, you know. Yeah he was like he's
Speaker 1: like he was honest, and he's like I'll wait for
Speaker 1: however long you want, like and I was like it
Speaker 1: wasn't like I didn't I didn't want to kiss him
Speaker 1: and like go there because I knew that it was
Speaker 1: he wasn't the guy for me, so like I didn't
Speaker 1: want to get him more invested in, Like I just
Speaker 1: didn't want to hurt him. I feel like that was
Speaker 1: just like giving him. I didn't want to give him
Speaker 1: the affirmation that was interested, which is bad. And I
Speaker 1: was continuing but like I just like was like, that's
Speaker 1: just like I like him. I think it's appriate for
Speaker 1: you to take your time and trying to figure it
Speaker 1: all out. Um interesting, Okay, cool. Well that was a
Speaker 1: long segment. I'm so sorry for being that was like
Speaker 1: thirty minutes long. We are going to have a bridget Mark.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this so wrong. Bridget Mark cart Mark
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Speaker 1: But she is doing something pretty interesting pretty soon. But
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Speaker 1: to hire. Okay, we are back, still joined in studio
Speaker 1: by Heather, and we have a new guest, Bridget. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say it wrong again, Bridget Mark Uart Marc Quart.
Speaker 1: How are you welcoming? Wha Bridge? I'm gonna lead by
Speaker 1: saying I was a big fan of the e show
Speaker 1: The House Girls, The Girls next Door. Yes, it's such
Speaker 1: a big fan they ever got the name? Yes, I
Speaker 1: should have remembered the name, but I saw. I was
Speaker 1: the biggest fan of it when I was fourteen years old.
Speaker 1: I was obsessed with that show. So it's there. It's
Speaker 1: an honor to have you in studio. But you've kind
Speaker 1: of moved away from that, of course, and now you're
Speaker 1: doing some more spooky things for Halloween. Yeah. Well, I
Speaker 1: have a podcast that's called ghost Magnet and UM on
Speaker 1: my Heart radio, so you can find it there, and UM,
Speaker 1: it's just spooky ghost stories because I've loved the paranormal
Speaker 1: and spooky stuff. I mean, I tell people I think
Speaker 1: I was born spooky because I've loved scary movies way
Speaker 1: before I should have been watching them, and my parents
Speaker 1: were fine with it. Um. And then when I was twelve,
Speaker 1: I used my babysity money to go buy Awiji board
Speaker 1: and I made my cousin come and play with me,
Speaker 1: and I was accusing her moving it. She was accusing
Speaker 1: me of moving it, and then we got bored. But
Speaker 1: then some weird stuff started happening after that, and then
Speaker 1: I've just been obsessed with the paranormal ever since. And
Speaker 1: back then there wasn't any way to have um equipment
Speaker 1: or anything like that like it is now. But now
Speaker 1: you can actually buy equipment and and so I have
Speaker 1: my own little ghost hunting kit. And let me ask you,
Speaker 1: do you think the introduction of equipment has made ghost
Speaker 1: hunting better or worse? Because you know, like there's kind
Speaker 1: of like the mystery of like the manual way of
Speaker 1: doing things back in the back, like you know, ten
Speaker 1: twenty years ago, but now you have like all these
Speaker 1: electronics that are like sensing things. Yeah yeah, because before, um,
Speaker 1: the electronics were huge and clunky, big, and they had
Speaker 1: enormous set up they had to do. And now like
Speaker 1: you can just walk in with like a little suitcase
Speaker 1: like I have and pop it open and like start
Speaker 1: passing out the gear. Please please tell me you brought
Speaker 1: the suitcase with you. I did not told me. So
Speaker 1: you're performing to say once this Halloween. Well, I'm actually
Speaker 1: doing it tomorrow night. So because that is all Howel's
Speaker 1: eve And according to Patty Negre and she is, um
Speaker 1: the psychic medium that's going to be doing the seance
Speaker 1: for us, and she's the Hollywood Witch and Patty Patty
Speaker 1: is from Ghost Adventures, right, she does do Ghost Venture
Speaker 1: so yeah. Um. She says that the veil between the
Speaker 1: two worlds is the thinnest on that day, so we
Speaker 1: should have really good luck. Interesting. Yeah, okay, So You're
Speaker 1: going to Holly's house to perform the seance, and Holly
Speaker 1: was your co star on Girls next Door, so why
Speaker 1: and an idiot. So what exactly is it about Holly's
Speaker 1: house that makes you believe that it's haunted? Okay, so
Speaker 1: her house is, for one, it's really old. It was
Speaker 1: built in and but we don't know any of the
Speaker 1: history with it, so we don't we don't know anything
Speaker 1: about it. And she's been experiencing some weird things, like
Speaker 1: things crashing down it sounds like something broke, and she'd
Speaker 1: go try and investigate and there's nothing. Um one day
Speaker 1: and she tries to set her alarm and it says
Speaker 1: that there's motion censored in the house but nobody's home
Speaker 1: and things like that. So like she'll have to override
Speaker 1: the dining room, say, or something like that because it's
Speaker 1: a motion in there. Yeah, it's creepy. So she's like,
Speaker 1: I think you need to come, bring your little kid
Speaker 1: and investigate. So I went over there and I was
Speaker 1: investigating and well, actually, let me back up a minute.
Speaker 1: I texted her and said I'm on my way, and
Speaker 1: she said okay, and then she a few minutes later
Speaker 1: got a knock at our door, thought it was me,
Speaker 1: ran opened up the door and there was nobody there. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and nobody was around as far as you could see,
Speaker 1: and there was like, no, there's no one for anyone
Speaker 1: to hire, and like that. There was nobody there. And
Speaker 1: she was like, that's so weird. I totally thought you
Speaker 1: were already here, did you? Like, No, No, I didn't
Speaker 1: come and knock earlier. So then I when I got there,
Speaker 1: I just the door was already open. So I just
Speaker 1: opened up the door and was like, knock, knot, I'm here,
Speaker 1: and she and she then she told me what happened.
Speaker 1: And I didn't lock the door behind me. I just
Speaker 1: shut it. And then we're investigating. All of a sudden
Speaker 1: we hear this clunk and it was the dead bull
Speaker 1: locked itself. What And so when I went to go
Speaker 1: open the door, it was totally locked. And the meters
Speaker 1: were getting a few things. Nothing was spectacular, but they
Speaker 1: were getting some stuff. And then um, I was just like,
Speaker 1: we need to figure out what the history is on
Speaker 1: this place and what's going on. Then the next morning
Speaker 1: she wakes up and the ceiling in her office like
Speaker 1: caved in. What we did we like, it just fell
Speaker 1: like the plaster fell. Oh my gosh, So did we
Speaker 1: did we mess with something? So do you think that
Speaker 1: this potential interaction with the spirit world. Is a specific
Speaker 1: ghost or is it just potential? Like do you think
Speaker 1: it's the ghost of the house when it was built
Speaker 1: in n We want to find out, that's what we wanted.
Speaker 1: We were hoping to find out, like who's there, why
Speaker 1: are they there? What happened there? Run over the logistics
Speaker 1: of a seance for me? How does it work? Exactly?
Speaker 1: So we sit at a table and as close together
Speaker 1: as possible. Um, the more energy in the room, look better.
Speaker 1: You eat something sweet beforehand, because they when the spirits
Speaker 1: come to you, they suck the energy out of you.
Speaker 1: They even um out of your batteries and all your
Speaker 1: equipment and everything. You always have to have extra batteries
Speaker 1: with you because it just drains all the energy. It
Speaker 1: con fine because it needs that to come through. So UM,
Speaker 1: we dim all the lights. We have lots of candles. UM.
Speaker 1: Patty has special protection oils that she had us and
Speaker 1: that kind of thing that she passes around for anybody
Speaker 1: who wants to use it. UM. And then she does
Speaker 1: this whole chant. Her style is very Victorian, So she
Speaker 1: does this whole chant and about lifting the veil and
Speaker 1: inviting the spirits to come and upon ringing the bell,
Speaker 1: and then she rings the bell and we're on the
Speaker 1: other side, she says. And then you just start asking
Speaker 1: questions and she'll tell you if she sees things coming
Speaker 1: to her or not. What is your most bizarre experience
Speaker 1: with the paranormal that you've had. Um, the craziest experience
Speaker 1: I've had. It was in Louisiana at a place called
Speaker 1: the Myrtles Plantation. It's supposed to be the most haunted
Speaker 1: house in the United States. And I was dying to
Speaker 1: stay there for a really long time, and finally went
Speaker 1: there a couple of years ago for my birthday, and um,
Speaker 1: at first I wasn't getting anything. I was doing a
Speaker 1: whole ghost hunt. And it has crazy history at this home.
Speaker 1: I mean you can imagine a plantation home in Louisiana
Speaker 1: has a lot of history, but from Civil War to
Speaker 1: UM there's a ghost named Chloe who was a servant
Speaker 1: that they cut her ear off and she was hung
Speaker 1: and like like really terrible things. Little kids were killed
Speaker 1: there too, they um, we're poisoned and died. So like
Speaker 1: there's a lot of really bad history at that house.
Speaker 1: So oh, a guy died on the seventeen step. He
Speaker 1: went to answer his door and somebody just shot him,
Speaker 1: playing blank and then he made it up to the
Speaker 1: seventeenth step and died in his wife's arms. All in
Speaker 1: this house. So we're investigating my fiance and I who
Speaker 1: my fiance is like a major skeptic, but he's a
Speaker 1: good sport. So I have him down there at like
Speaker 1: one in the morning and we're investigating and stuff, and
Speaker 1: I'm sitting on the steps trying to do e VPS
Speaker 1: an e VP session that's that's electric electronic voice phenomenon
Speaker 1: because you and uh, and we're not getting anything, and
Speaker 1: I'm actually getting kind of bored, and so finally we're
Speaker 1: just like one thirty two in the morning, We're like,
Speaker 1: forget it, let's just gonna bad. I guess nothing's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I'm like, kempfully, this is the world's most haunted house.
Speaker 1: How disappointing. We go to bed, and a few minutes later,
Speaker 1: or maybe an hour later, all of a sudden, we
Speaker 1: hear somebody go running up the steps outside our room,
Speaker 1: and I was like, did you hear that? And he's like,
Speaker 1: I totally heard that. So I go running out the
Speaker 1: door opened up. Nobody's there, Okay. Then I heard these squeaking,
Speaker 1: and I know where the squeaking is coming from because
Speaker 1: we just did an investigations. I know that there's like
Speaker 1: these dorm or windows outside the room, and there's like
Speaker 1: a little sitting area in it, and they squeak if
Speaker 1: you walk over there, so I know where somebody's walking,
Speaker 1: that's where they are. So I run an open up
Speaker 1: the door. Again, nobody's there. Then we start hearing like
Speaker 1: little kids laughing and running around. We hear furniture moving
Speaker 1: above us, but there's no floor above us that I
Speaker 1: know of. Were the We are the only ones so
Speaker 1: the way that it works there, we are the only
Speaker 1: ones in this section, so we have the mainstairs, the
Speaker 1: main entryway, um and the mirror. Like I specifically booked
Speaker 1: this room on purpose because no one else has access
Speaker 1: to it. We're the only one. Okay, I mean things
Speaker 1: got so crazy, it felt so heavy in the room.
Speaker 1: I was I was literally scared over my eyes. I
Speaker 1: was embarriest to admit it because I want this stuff
Speaker 1: to happen, like I look for it, but at that
Speaker 1: point I was just so scared and so was he,
Speaker 1: and we're like holding onto each other and every time
Speaker 1: we heard something like did you hear that? Did you
Speaker 1: hear that? And it was just like constant. And then
Speaker 1: um uh, all of a sudden, we heard this like
Speaker 1: electronic noise in the room and we both shot up
Speaker 1: and they were like, what the heck was that? And
Speaker 1: then my K two meter was sitting which it's it
Speaker 1: detects electromagnetic fields. It was just sitting on the night
Speaker 1: sound like. We just didn't put it away, We just
Speaker 1: left it there. It was lighting up like crazy, and
Speaker 1: he's like your K two meters going off and it's
Speaker 1: making noises, but it doesn't make noise. It lights up,
Speaker 1: it doesn't make any noise, like it's not that. It's
Speaker 1: not that so long story shirt too. But we we
Speaker 1: like just we're all scared. And then um and it
Speaker 1: was three in the morning at that time, and it
Speaker 1: went on till about four, and then at four something,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I just felt this like release
Speaker 1: and I just felt like it was over. The heaviness
Speaker 1: was gone. It just all of a sudden you could
Speaker 1: just relax. And I was like, what time is it.
Speaker 1: He's like for something. I was like, Okay, I feel
Speaker 1: like it's gone now, But you still have to come
Speaker 1: and move the bathroom because I'm just scared. And it
Speaker 1: was like full stuff or it just like I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say it was evil, but it's just so scary when
Speaker 1: that much stuff is going on. It's scary. Anytime you
Speaker 1: you actually see something or feel something, it either is
Speaker 1: shocking or scary, depending. It's got scary because of how
Speaker 1: long it was lasting and how crazy it was getting.
Speaker 1: Usually things are very fleeting and out of the corner
Speaker 1: of your eye, and so it's more just a shock.
Speaker 1: But this was like a crazy, ongoing thing that was happening.
Speaker 1: And then the next morning they do like biscuits and
Speaker 1: gravy down in the gift shop area. So we went
Speaker 1: down there and they're like, oh, what room were you
Speaker 1: guys in, And we told them. They're like, oh, you
Speaker 1: made it through the night. The last two people stay
Speaker 1: and there didn't make it through the night. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: So so and you said your fiance is a skeptic
Speaker 1: when it comes to this stuff. Yes, So what is
Speaker 1: that like? Because obviously you're like very entrenched in it
Speaker 1: and you really like it and exploring it. I welcome
Speaker 1: it because I don't want to fall down the rabbit
Speaker 1: hole where I just believe everything. I try and say
Speaker 1: skeptical myself. I try to say, Okay, what else could
Speaker 1: that be? When I had people come on my show
Speaker 1: and talk about their ghost stories, I'm always asking what
Speaker 1: could it have been? The electrical? Could that have been
Speaker 1: a mouse? Could that have been you know what. I'm
Speaker 1: always trying to look for what couldn't have been? But
Speaker 1: there's just simply things that are unexplained out there. Do
Speaker 1: you think that this house specific, cause I'm very skeptical myself,
Speaker 1: do you think this house in Louisiana might even just
Speaker 1: like sets things up to scare people while they stay
Speaker 1: in there. I don't think so. I mean, anything's possible,
Speaker 1: but I really don't think so. I mean this, I
Speaker 1: don't know how they would have done what we experienced
Speaker 1: in there. I go through a lot of haunted houses,
Speaker 1: like Hollywood Horror Knis. I do all every single one
Speaker 1: of them every year. I'm at I'm at Dark Harbor,
Speaker 1: I'm at Hollywood Horror Knights, I'm at six Flags, Rite Fest,
Speaker 1: Um Not Scary Farm, all of them, and I like, specifically,
Speaker 1: I don't get scared that easily. Like I walked through
Speaker 1: them and I'm like, I feel bad because they're trying
Speaker 1: so hard to scare, but I just don't scare. But I, um,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the set and I'm looking at the
Speaker 1: special effects and I'm and so I'm like very aware
Speaker 1: of all that kind of stuff, and i just feel
Speaker 1: like if they if if they are doing anything about
Speaker 1: the like making that up, they're they're amazing. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: need they need a job in Hollywood. So but so
Speaker 1: it hasn't driven like a wedge between your your fiance
Speaker 1: at all. No opinion, expectation. No, he wants, he wants
Speaker 1: to experience something, he wants to believe, but he's like,
Speaker 1: I need something to happen. He actually has had little
Speaker 1: things happen, but not enough to like turn him non skeptic.
Speaker 1: Like something. We were at the Stanley Hotel, super haunted
Speaker 1: place in Colorado, s this park. It was, um, it
Speaker 1: was the inspiration for The Shining. Stephen King stayed the
Speaker 1: night there and then wrote The Shining. But um, we
Speaker 1: were up in the carriage house there and something pulled
Speaker 1: his hair and there was nobody behind him, so that
Speaker 1: kind of made him go, wait, what was that? You
Speaker 1: can't explain that we did a field trip when I
Speaker 1: was in high school to the Hotel Colorado, which is
Speaker 1: actually close to SS Park, and they were saying that
Speaker 1: some people would feel pinches on their back because of
Speaker 1: like ghosts would come and pinch. I never felt anything
Speaker 1: like that, So I'm kind of in the same bloat too,
Speaker 1: or I need to like experience something to be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is like legitimate, you know what I mean. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: another thing about Holly's Vegas house, which is also haunted. Separately,
Speaker 1: I also took my ghost home, didn't get there to
Speaker 1: her like guesthouse, and um, we were walking around and
Speaker 1: my KT meter was picking up in this one room,
Speaker 1: so we I said, let's just PLoP down here and
Speaker 1: let's do some e VP stuff and just record it
Speaker 1: and everything and we'll ask ask questions. So we were
Speaker 1: sitting down, it wasn't Holly and I and this other
Speaker 1: friend of ours, and I said, if there's if you're here,
Speaker 1: make a tapping noise. And we heard a tap and
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I just need to confirm though,
Speaker 1: that this is you and not just a tap. Can
Speaker 1: you do it again? Another tap? And I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: that's amazing. But I still wasn't kind of convinced there
Speaker 1: was something that was like bugging me about it, Like
Speaker 1: I felt like maybe it was just coincidence, and it
Speaker 1: was something in like the little mini kitchen in the
Speaker 1: guest room, and so uh, I was like, you know
Speaker 1: what if something's here, can you tap me? And all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I felt like this flick or pinch
Speaker 1: on my shoulder blade and I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: Backing up a little bit, there was a psychic that
Speaker 1: was supposed to meet us there that night and she
Speaker 1: chickened out. She said she didn't want to come, and
Speaker 1: then but we and so we we did the little
Speaker 1: ghost hunt earlier, and then we went to dinner. And
Speaker 1: then as we're driving to dinner, the psychic calls us
Speaker 1: and she's like, did you guys already do that ghost hunt?
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, we just did it early.
Speaker 1: And she was like, oh, because I have the little
Speaker 1: girl who's haunting your guesthouse sitting in front of me
Speaker 1: saying that she just poked one of you in the back. Whoa.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh my god, that's like the best
Speaker 1: proof I've ever gotten. That's crazy. Yeah, I'm kind of spooked.
Speaker 1: Our age. Oh my god, So you love Halloween like
Speaker 1: Halloweens you're do? I love it. We're just talking to Heather,
Speaker 1: what are you dressing up as this year? I keep
Speaker 1: it a secret, and sometimes I go to theme parties
Speaker 1: like tomorrow night there's a theme after we do the sance.
Speaker 1: I've invited to a theme party and it's it's um
Speaker 1: sci fi. So you're probably gonna go. I can imagine
Speaker 1: you're just going all out. Yeah, I usually do, but
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure if we were going to go to
Speaker 1: this party because of the seance that so I don't
Speaker 1: really I'm not sure. Um, we're trying to make it
Speaker 1: one hour, but we've done one once before and it
Speaker 1: was a couple of hours long. It's just kind of
Speaker 1: how long you want to go and how active it's been,
Speaker 1: Like you could do it and nobody come through, so
Speaker 1: maybe want to cut it short. But we were getting
Speaker 1: a lot of activity when we did it before, so um,
Speaker 1: so yeah, but it's one hour live. What's happening? Not
Speaker 1: to not to change gears or anything, but tell me
Speaker 1: more about your fiance has been engaged for Oh god,
Speaker 1: we've been engaged for years. Yeah, we've been together eleven years.
Speaker 1: I think we've been engaged. Uh, I should know exactly,
Speaker 1: but I think we've engaged three years, and uh, we
Speaker 1: were going to get married and staid we started doing
Speaker 1: the fertility treatments and that kind of stuff. So we
Speaker 1: kind of spent our our wedding money on fertility stuff.
Speaker 1: It's so expensive. So I mean, we just feel like
Speaker 1: we don't have to be married. We want to be,
Speaker 1: but we don't have to be. He's ready to go
Speaker 1: to the courthouse, but I just mean he was ready
Speaker 1: to go to the courthouse three years ago. But I
Speaker 1: love party planning and I love events, and I want
Speaker 1: to plan something special and cool and memorable. How did
Speaker 1: you guys meet? Actually at the Playboy mansion? But not
Speaker 1: not in a weird way like people think automatically. Um.
Speaker 1: His grandfather was hell Roach. Um. He was one of
Speaker 1: the O G movie producers and studios in l A.
Speaker 1: And he did of Mice and Men, Laurel and Hardy
Speaker 1: Little Rascals, those kinds of things. And um, so helf
Speaker 1: was screening the movie of Mice and Men at the
Speaker 1: mansion and has film historian Um Dicky Ban always tries
Speaker 1: to bring something in some sort of artifact or souvenir
Speaker 1: or a person that's associated with the film that we're
Speaker 1: going to watch. And so he brought in how Rouch
Speaker 1: is a grandson and I was like, so gross. I
Speaker 1: was like gross. That day I had been um, I
Speaker 1: do Trapeeze. So I had been training for Trapeeze all
Speaker 1: day long. I just came down to dinner and like sweats,
Speaker 1: no makeup and hair and ball on top of my head.
Speaker 1: And I walked downstairs and I see was hot guy
Speaker 1: at the bottle. I was like, wait, is there a
Speaker 1: hot guy here? There's never hot guy here? Of course
Speaker 1: the day I like crap. And then and then of course,
Speaker 1: so I sit right next to helf, and then Dicky
Speaker 1: ban sit sext to me. So whoever he brings sits
Speaker 1: right next to him. So I'm sitting like pretty much
Speaker 1: right next to the person. And we got to talking.
Speaker 1: And I was producing a horror movie at that time,
Speaker 1: and he's a director and it was an anthology, so
Speaker 1: I needed like three different directors. So I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you should come in and talk to the other producers
Speaker 1: and have a meeting. So at first it was like
Speaker 1: totally business, but then there was some flirting going on.
Speaker 1: And I wasn't allowed to date at the mansion, So
Speaker 1: I was gonna say it was that strange because at
Speaker 1: the mansion, like you were basically you were dating Half, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I wasn't allowed to date, but at that point,
Speaker 1: this was like way towards the end. So at that point,
Speaker 1: Holly and Half were like the only relationship. Kender and
Speaker 1: I were just it was basically, we're filming Girls next
Speaker 1: Stores still, you know. And I was already planning to
Speaker 1: move out because I had um. I was already going
Speaker 1: to be doing my Bridget Sexist Beaches on Travel Channel.
Speaker 1: I was already starting to travel for that, so I
Speaker 1: knew that as soon as I finished that I was
Speaker 1: going to be moving out anyway. So it was kind
Speaker 1: of like the I was halfway out the door kind
Speaker 1: of thing. Well, so on this podcast we talked a
Speaker 1: lot about like open relationships and stuff like that, and
Speaker 1: with Half, it seems like you had something of the sort,
Speaker 1: right would you ever, would you with your fiance now ever,
Speaker 1: even entertain that as an option. No, I wouldn't because
Speaker 1: I've been there, done that, and I want I want
Speaker 1: exclusive now and your fiance is on the same page.
Speaker 1: Of course, yeah, I mean he might be more open
Speaker 1: to But you have you did the show Girls next
Speaker 1: Door That opened lots of doors for you. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was an amazing experience. I mean I lived there for
Speaker 1: six and a half year, so I was there. Holly
Speaker 1: and I were there way before we did Girls next Store. Um,
Speaker 1: Girls next Door didn't come in. Tell I'd already been there.
Speaker 1: Let's see three years a little more about is there
Speaker 1: like a new half? Um? Like, what's happening? Is there
Speaker 1: is there anyone living at the Playboy Mansion? Oh? The
Speaker 1: Playboy Mansion was sold to Darren Metropolis. Um, he is
Speaker 1: just a private owner. Um, his family has perhaps blue
Speaker 1: ribbon I think, and hostess and stuff like that. Uh.
Speaker 1: And it's just a private residence. Now. He did allow
Speaker 1: them to come in and film part of um uh
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, why am I blanking on the Quentin
Speaker 1: Tarantino movie Once upon a Time in Hollywood. He allowed
Speaker 1: them to come film there and and have it be
Speaker 1: like the Playboy Mansion and like it was a scene
Speaker 1: from there. But um, and I think he did have
Speaker 1: a one special event there. But since then I haven't
Speaker 1: heard of anything else going on. And so you and
Speaker 1: Holly have remained pretty good friends since the Yeah, what
Speaker 1: about Kendra. I'm still friends with Kendra too, not as
Speaker 1: close though, but I mean if I texted her and
Speaker 1: you know, I was like, think, you know, you should
Speaker 1: get back to me a kind of thing, but we
Speaker 1: don't hang out. Kendra was always my favorite. Really, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was just like so weirdly when
Speaker 1: I was like, I guess I was like fourteen or
Speaker 1: fifteen on the show was airing, right, So I was
Speaker 1: just like, had this weird She like reminded me of
Speaker 1: this girl that I was in love with when I
Speaker 1: was at age. So that's kind of why. Yeah, very tomboyish,
Speaker 1: very like athletic, like that kind of stuff, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I don't know why. I just
Speaker 1: kind of like resonated with me. But do you one
Speaker 1: more question or a couple more questions before we wra
Speaker 1: this up? I guess doing all of this like paranormal
Speaker 1: supernatural stuff, and obviously with you have having passed, do
Speaker 1: you ever see or like maybe communicate with him or
Speaker 1: do you ever worry or like I get excited about
Speaker 1: potentially seeing him or communicating with him? Well, um, a
Speaker 1: couple of months after he died. I had this, so
Speaker 1: I tried to go and see him many times before
Speaker 1: he died. For like a year and a half, I
Speaker 1: tried to go up and see him, and they were
Speaker 1: being like totally rude about it and wouldn't let me
Speaker 1: come up, and uh, then he passed away and so
Speaker 1: and then we didn't get invited the funeral either, so
Speaker 1: I never I felt like I never got to say
Speaker 1: goodbye or like really see him at the end. And
Speaker 1: I had a dream a couple of months after he
Speaker 1: died that I came up to the mansion. And it's weird,
Speaker 1: because you know how dreams, they just don't make sense.
Speaker 1: Like I I pulled up to the mansion and it
Speaker 1: was abandoned, like it was not the Playboy mansion anymore.
Speaker 1: He was gone, all right, but yet security let me in,
Speaker 1: Like so it doesn't make sense, you know. And then
Speaker 1: I pull up and then I walk in. Everything's kind
Speaker 1: of dark and and and weird. But there's one light
Speaker 1: on in the bedroom and I just know that's where
Speaker 1: I need to go. So I go in the bedroom
Speaker 1: and I'm waiting and then all of a sudden, I
Speaker 1: see him come walking down the stairs and he's wearing
Speaker 1: his green silk pajamas, which is kind of weird because
Speaker 1: he usually wears only purple or black and they only
Speaker 1: wear the green at Christmas time. And then he was
Speaker 1: wearing his smoking jacket and he came down and his
Speaker 1: arms were open wide and he's and he gave his
Speaker 1: big laugh that he had like a cackle laugh thing,
Speaker 1: and he said, my darling, and he gave me the
Speaker 1: biggest hug, and like I I could smell his cologne,
Speaker 1: I could feel the texture of his smoking jacket. I like,
Speaker 1: it felt so real, so real, and to the point where,
Speaker 1: I mean, I've had other people on my show who
Speaker 1: are like um experts and that kind of stuff and everything,
Speaker 1: and they were like, if you had all those different senses,
Speaker 1: it was more than just a dream, because usually don't
Speaker 1: have smell and texture and stuff and a dream. So
Speaker 1: I don't know. I would I would if if he
Speaker 1: did um come through it in the Selans, I would
Speaker 1: want to know if that was a dream or if
Speaker 1: he really did something to say. I mean, it was
Speaker 1: so real, It's all I could talk about. And I
Speaker 1: was like on the verge of tears. It was just
Speaker 1: like it was weird, that was your chance to get
Speaker 1: this good. I think so, Yeah, I really do think. So.
Speaker 1: Do you think that dreams have any connection to that world? Possibly?
Speaker 1: I mean in this sense, In this sense, I think
Speaker 1: it definitely did. I guess, just more on like a
Speaker 1: regular basis, like how there could be maybe some like
Speaker 1: for telling coming through dreams or anything like that where
Speaker 1: it's like just like this weird like extra sense that
Speaker 1: I don't know we have. It's very possible, but I
Speaker 1: don't know too much about it to be sure. But
Speaker 1: I mean, I do think I I have been told
Speaker 1: that dreams are a way of helping you deal with things.
Speaker 1: So like they might put you in a weird circumstance
Speaker 1: where you feel awkward or scared or weird or whatever,
Speaker 1: but it's just teaching you how to deal with things
Speaker 1: without actually having to be in those situations. So tell
Speaker 1: us when we're talking about the sance that you're having
Speaker 1: an Hollow's Eve, UM October seven pm U seven pm
Speaker 1: Specific time, ten pm Eastern time. UM, We'll be at
Speaker 1: Holly's house doing a live seance and for us that
Speaker 1: obviously you can't be at Holly's house to watch, we can,
Speaker 1: but you can join in. Yeah, So if you join
Speaker 1: in on time, you'll be able to lift the veil
Speaker 1: with her. And we're asking people to have something sweet beforehand,
Speaker 1: set the mood, maybe poor a little cocktail because we'll
Speaker 1: have a little toast afterwards. Um uh. Light their candles,
Speaker 1: send us all their energy, and then people can also
Speaker 1: send us questions if if they want us to ask things.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be kind of like people are can
Speaker 1: be involved. So it's like a live stream sort of thing.
Speaker 1: It is live stream, very cool. That's unique, right, I
Speaker 1: feel like that's probably going to be pretty intense. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I haven't heard anybody doing it before, so maybe we're
Speaker 1: the first. Okay, So if you're listening to this podcast,
Speaker 1: be sure and where can they find that that's going
Speaker 1: to be? Is it being live streamed on your Facebook page?
Speaker 1: If they go to Ghost Magnet podcast dot com, it
Speaker 1: has a countdown and all the links on there, So
Speaker 1: it's gonna it's a live stream on Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube.
Speaker 1: I'll simultaneously, but you can click on whichever link you
Speaker 1: are most comfortable. And for the listeners on Instagram and Twitter,
Speaker 1: it's Bridget Mark Quirked at Bridget, It's Twitter at Bridget.
Speaker 1: I thought, I mean at Twitter. Twitter, it's at Bridget
Speaker 1: just Bridget I have. I have Bridget Markart on my
Speaker 1: and then I'm jealous. I know some people, Yeah, it
Speaker 1: must be nice. Instagram is bridget mark Art cool one.
Speaker 1: What's funny actually is I was talking to the guy
Speaker 1: on Instagram that just has at Dean and he was like,
Speaker 1: how much would you pay me for this Instagram handle.
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't give you a hundred bucks
Speaker 1: and I never heard from him again. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: probably okay. Anyways, Yeah, be sure you're tune in tomorrow
Speaker 1: seven pm Pacific, ten pm Eastern Ghost Magnet podcast dot com.
Speaker 1: Is that correct for the live stream? Or check her
Speaker 1: out on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook and let's tune in.
Speaker 1: Let's see what happens at Hollywy's house. The ceiling doesn't
Speaker 1: fall in on it. I honestly hope it does happen.
Speaker 1: I'm going to be that guy that just wants I
Speaker 1: did kat l a this morning. They're like, well, we
Speaker 1: hope you find to go. So I'm like, well, if
Speaker 1: I do, you better have me back on the next
Speaker 1: one because that will be record break and then we're
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Speaker 1: I suck at day eating with Dean and Heather. We
Speaker 1: have a very special final guests in here who chooses
Speaker 1: to remain nameless, which that's when you know things are
Speaker 1: going to be good. I'm not choosing to remain nameless.
Speaker 1: I'm saying we can't say names of what you want. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's fair, but we still won't say your name either. Anyways,
Speaker 1: we have Tori and Studio with us to get care
Speaker 1: people already know. So if you follow along this podcast regularly,
Speaker 1: which we hope you do, if you haven't yet. Go
Speaker 1: listen to past episodes to get filled in on Tori's
Speaker 1: story about her dating life. Because of all the people
Speaker 1: here that even host and produced this podcast, Tory, without
Speaker 1: question is the suckiest data out of all of us.
Speaker 1: I mean, and I say that with the most love
Speaker 1: in my heart. I possibly care. I told I told
Speaker 1: you that other day. I kind of felt like we
Speaker 1: had I was like, I'm really critical of beans sometimes,
Speaker 1: but then I find myself like doing your patterns, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, so if I suck, you suck, and
Speaker 1: that just bonds us. Yes, we suck, and we suck together.
Speaker 1: And I think that you do that because my decisions,
Speaker 1: while dumb, are very logical and sound and reasonable, but
Speaker 1: in practice maybe not so much. Okay, So for those
Speaker 1: that just need to be a quick refresher, and for Heather,
Speaker 1: of course, because although I know you listen to this
Speaker 1: podcast every week just to refresh your memory. Tori. Tori
Speaker 1: went on a date not too long ago, I want
Speaker 1: to say, like two months ago, with a guy who
Speaker 1: wore basketball shorts. So you're getting them mixed up, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: because that's different. Do you want to tell the story first, then,
Speaker 1: because I don't know who you're talking You did a
Speaker 1: lot of guys. I don't know. You're a busy girl.
Speaker 1: Hate this setup. Catch us up? Where are we in
Speaker 1: Tori's life? Well, he's thinking of a past guy I
Speaker 1: went on a date with who played football, and he
Speaker 1: doesn't think it's a date, and I thought it was
Speaker 1: a date. I don't know. We'll still the guy I
Speaker 1: think it's a date or Dean did it, doesn't think it.
Speaker 1: Basically I ended up going half on the on the
Speaker 1: on the bill bill, thank you? Did he ask you out? Yes?
Speaker 1: But Dan doesn't think so. Anyways, that's just like the
Speaker 1: whole story. He's still really hung up on that, And
Speaker 1: I'm like, I literally just called the guy up. If
Speaker 1: we're still hung up on it, you've been talking about
Speaker 1: it longer than I have. How am I the one
Speaker 1: that's hung up on this? I'm not talking about it anymore.
Speaker 1: You keep, I'm saying, you keep merging the guys together,
Speaker 1: so you think that it's like still that guy, and
Speaker 1: it's tough work. I think all of your bad dating
Speaker 1: stories are just the same guy over and over. Wow.
Speaker 1: Oh I would like that because then it make my
Speaker 1: bad dating life just more like, oh, it's the it's
Speaker 1: the guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, I met this
Speaker 1: other guy through a mutual friend and he plays professional football. Okay,
Speaker 1: and it's still very new, Like we literally went on
Speaker 1: one date, um, and then he had to go back
Speaker 1: for summer camp. So if you from here, you know
Speaker 1: he's from Chicago. Okay, he was just out here to
Speaker 1: visit friends. Um, and then we like we face time,
Speaker 1: we text and things like that. But it's like really
Speaker 1: hard to keep the spark alive when you really don't
Speaker 1: know each other because you just go on one day. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: it was a good day, like I get while she's
Speaker 1: betting on The Bachelor. Would be hard because you go
Speaker 1: on one day and then you're like, Okay, then I
Speaker 1: gotta keep the momentum going until I get on my
Speaker 1: other one on one. And I kind of like that's how.
Speaker 1: And let's be clear, you like this guy because you're
Speaker 1: normally you're hard to impress as as a dator, like
Speaker 1: you have very high standards as well. It's good. I
Speaker 1: think it's an important thing to have, Like, um, and
Speaker 1: you like this guy, I say I do, But I
Speaker 1: say that I think I do is the way I
Speaker 1: would really phrase it. It's just it's so hard to
Speaker 1: base it off one interaction and then yeah, exactly, but
Speaker 1: what I know now, Yeah, what he's he has like
Speaker 1: a great character about him and things like that. But anyways,
Speaker 1: more all of the story, he's coming into town. Um.
Speaker 1: But it's a little unfortunate because now I have work
Speaker 1: that I'll be gone and then I come back and
Speaker 1: I'll only really be able to see him at his
Speaker 1: game and then he leaves. Can you see him after?
Speaker 1: I just looked up why they're coming to town and
Speaker 1: now I know. Um, and that's right, because because you
Speaker 1: guys are going to Sonoma this weekend, right, You're going
Speaker 1: to Napa Valley and I'm super excited about it. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be great and everyone should tune in and listen
Speaker 1: to those podcasts. Um help. I second dating will be
Speaker 1: from there with Jared. But um, yeah, So basically he's
Speaker 1: in down Friday to set well Sunday, and I'm gone
Speaker 1: Thursday through Saturday and I come back Sunday. But let
Speaker 1: me ask you this, even if you were in town
Speaker 1: while he was here, would he have any time to
Speaker 1: hang out with you? Yeah? He would. Well, that's where
Speaker 1: I met him. A year ago. Was it was a
Speaker 1: year yard a date with a year ago. No, I
Speaker 1: met him a year ago, but then he asked me
Speaker 1: on a date like five four months, same thing, like
Speaker 1: he had a game in l A and exactly exactly
Speaker 1: he want to go out on another date like this.
Speaker 1: So he hasn't brought it up at all. I've realized
Speaker 1: guys really just do not communicate. Well. It is so
Speaker 1: painful because I just sitting here and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: obviously know his schedule, but I have to play it
Speaker 1: cool like I don't and but he hasn't reached out.
Speaker 1: So then I was like, okay. But then he reached
Speaker 1: out yesterday, so here's a little bit of my dilemma. Um,
Speaker 1: he was like, hey, I'll be in town this Friday,
Speaker 1: like I hope to see you. I'm like, okay, great,
Speaker 1: he said this, yes, yes, that's awesome, and I said,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, oh no, I didn't know. I want
Speaker 1: to come, you know that whole thing. And then I
Speaker 1: had to play it cool because then I'm listen, he
Speaker 1: plays for a great team and tickets are not cheap,
Speaker 1: and football players actually do not get um free tickets.
Speaker 1: They pay for it, get like a discount, but they
Speaker 1: still pay. So I don't want to ever be that
Speaker 1: person who's like, yeah, are you paying for my ticket?
Speaker 1: But like are you? Because I don't want to pay
Speaker 1: for see you? I don't even really know. But he
Speaker 1: freezes it because I was like, hey, we want to come.
Speaker 1: He's like cool, um, yeah, like you should. And I
Speaker 1: was like, I get back at like four am on Sunday,
Speaker 1: like pretty brutal, but I'll be back in time. And
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, if you can make it, you should come.
Speaker 1: But he wasn't like let me know tickets, like do
Speaker 1: you want to bring a friend? Like he didn't really
Speaker 1: establish that. So I don't really even know if I'm
Speaker 1: going to the game, but I am invited. Let me
Speaker 1: ask you this. Can't I Heart give you free tickets
Speaker 1: to Dignity Health Sports Stadium? No? No, what do you
Speaker 1: mean why? I feel like I've been there before through
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. No? Um, well, I'm not cool and
Speaker 1: talent first of all, and second of all, Uh, I
Speaker 1: don't desire to go to the game unless like he
Speaker 1: would want me want to go, because I don't. I would,
Speaker 1: honestly if I'm getting in at four am on Sunday
Speaker 1: I'd rather sleep, but I would always like make the
Speaker 1: effort to just like, even if I don't know if
Speaker 1: I'm really interested with the guy, I always say as
Speaker 1: to a date. That's my rule. So I'm always going
Speaker 1: to say yes to things to see how it could
Speaker 1: grow or not grow or just friends. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't really care about like what because I have your
Speaker 1: expectations because I don't really know the guy. But at
Speaker 1: this point, I'm like, do I ask him, like, hey, like,
Speaker 1: what's the like am I coming? But then I can't
Speaker 1: because I know he's paying for my ticket. It sucks
Speaker 1: that I know the whole football system, so I don't
Speaker 1: want to be like, oh, yeah, like it's great so fun,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, can just like leave tickets for me? But
Speaker 1: I was the last what was the last text questions?
Speaker 1: It was about tickets? You asking him about no no,
Speaker 1: no no. But I did ask my friend who plays
Speaker 1: professional football, and I was like, hey, like how does
Speaker 1: this work for you guys because obviously you have to pay,
Speaker 1: Like how does this work? And he was like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: they don't even know until Wednesday, Um the tickets, Like
Speaker 1: they can't ask for tickets until like a few days
Speaker 1: before the gate. So I guess Wednesday is my deadline.
Speaker 1: So the recording on this podcast is Tuesday, so we
Speaker 1: are one day ahead of this, correct. So he said, yeah,
Speaker 1: we do all. I said like, do you leave right
Speaker 1: after your game? Because I was trying to feel it out,
Speaker 1: like maybe we could just like grab lunch or something.
Speaker 1: But he was like, yeah, we leave after the game.
Speaker 1: You should still try and come to the game. And
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I'm down to come. I'll be back
Speaker 1: in time. And then I'd like an intentional effort to
Speaker 1: say like you should come, yes, but it hasn't been cleared,
Speaker 1: like do I need to buy tickets? I agree. I
Speaker 1: think you're saying I'm down to come is like putting
Speaker 1: it now, being like okay, yeah. I like he's like, okay,
Speaker 1: I've got two tickets for you. And if he does
Speaker 1: say I have two tickets for you, that's a great sign.
Speaker 1: But I think you're gonna I think you're gonna learn
Speaker 1: a lot about this relationship in the next couple of days.
Speaker 1: What does that mean. I think that if he says
Speaker 1: something along the lines of I have two tickets for
Speaker 1: you to be at will call pick him up on
Speaker 1: Sunday at whatever time. That's a very good sign. But
Speaker 1: if he goes, if he doesn't say anything about him
Speaker 1: getting you tickets, I know he's going to, but I
Speaker 1: don't know. I was talking to my friend who plays,
Speaker 1: and he was like, absolutely if you have somebody that
Speaker 1: you like, He's like, if it's a friend that you're
Speaker 1: kind of like, hey, just like vemo request me or whatever,
Speaker 1: because it's like your friend and you don't only want
Speaker 1: to pay for just whatever friends. If somebody's asking for tickets,
Speaker 1: he's like, but if you have a girl or whatever
Speaker 1: or somebody of interest, you'd be like, oh, I'm going
Speaker 1: to leave them up. We'll call for you. And you
Speaker 1: usually always leave a plus one for them because then
Speaker 1: they're just gonna sit with the football wives or that's
Speaker 1: so weird and all that stuff. And so he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he definitely should. And Wednesday is like when you pretty
Speaker 1: much you can just start asking for tickets. So I
Speaker 1: guess that's my deadline. But I'm like so confused by
Speaker 1: it because for me, I'm like, also, women were just planners,
Speaker 1: were like to shoot us a schedule. I be there, yeah,
Speaker 1: or like I'll make it work. I'll tell you. I
Speaker 1: can't do it. But guys are like, yeah, yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's weird that he hasn't
Speaker 1: texted you back yet. Okay, you love to winker in that.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but I honestly that's the thing. It's
Speaker 1: it is weird he didn't text me back. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, I'm like, I'm just already confused by it.
Speaker 1: So I'm not like, oh, that's such a bummer. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't even know what his invite. What was this
Speaker 1: like last night that you guys had this text correspondence
Speaker 1: Sunday night. It's been a couple of days now, Okay,
Speaker 1: I happened last night. You left it all. I feel
Speaker 1: like he's just going to text you tomorrow or whenever
Speaker 1: he gets the tickets, Like, hey, got the tickets. But
Speaker 1: why don't guys communicate? Well, we're not going to dive
Speaker 1: into the decisions of a man right now. Why don't
Speaker 1: guys plan Maybe he's got a couple of people on
Speaker 1: the line and he wants to see who he wants
Speaker 1: to Maybe. Sure, no, I don't think he does, but
Speaker 1: that could easy be it totally, he could have it.
Speaker 1: I think his sister plays like volleyball out here or something,
Speaker 1: so he could be like, oh shoot, and I gotta
Speaker 1: William the sister and her plus one. This girl I
Speaker 1: don't even know. What if I really like her, but
Speaker 1: I talk all the time, I don't know. I bet
Speaker 1: you they get four tickets and they could go to
Speaker 1: to you two to her. What if I sit with
Speaker 1: his sister and you guys become best friend? When it
Speaker 1: is I think could be good. I agree with Heather.
Speaker 1: Why would that be anything but good? When do you
Speaker 1: start meeting family when that would be intimidating to me?
Speaker 1: Have you met any of Caylin's family members? I met
Speaker 1: her grandparents? Okay, what how far in a couple of months.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that there's a difference between meeting the
Speaker 1: parents and meeting a sister. You know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be worse and this is what's actually gonna No.
Speaker 1: I disagree when you friendly, but listen, you have sisters,
Speaker 1: and you know this. When you bring somebody into an
Speaker 1: already it is your dynamic and it's another girl. You're
Speaker 1: kind of like, dude, we got our tribe. What do
Speaker 1: you want? Maybe it's just my family. I think that
Speaker 1: if you can hit it off with his sister at
Speaker 1: the game. Again, we're obviously speculating, because who the hell knows.
Speaker 1: If you're going to the game, who knows. But if
Speaker 1: you guys go to the game together, just best like
Speaker 1: the friend or sister and don't even like worry about
Speaker 1: the guy. I think, just focus all your attention on
Speaker 1: the sister. Become now I'm panicking. I don't want to
Speaker 1: meet the sister and then she's going to go back
Speaker 1: to this guy and be like, whoa man, that girl
Speaker 1: that you invited, so cool, so nice, best and you
Speaker 1: could have I'm so stressed right now. You're you know
Speaker 1: how long a football game is. I'm supposed to now
Speaker 1: maintain cocktail our conversations, not the entire time. Don't there
Speaker 1: or a full football game. I've got some advice for you.
Speaker 1: When you're talking to the sister, do everything that you
Speaker 1: would do normally, but then do the exact opposite of it,
Speaker 1: because you're a little insufferable and unbearable at times. Well,
Speaker 1: I learned from the best, learned from the best. I
Speaker 1: just learned so much from But no, I really am
Speaker 1: like a little confused by it. But I do feel
Speaker 1: fine because my heart is not totally in it because
Speaker 1: I don't know if I like him, and Dean does
Speaker 1: know that, Like, it is really hard to feel like
Speaker 1: impressed for a guy to like stand out to me.
Speaker 1: So it's like I'm very cautious when I feel like, oh,
Speaker 1: does this guy but I'm like, I could totally just
Speaker 1: be in factuation, I only met him on one day. Well,
Speaker 1: and as Heather kind of said earlier too, it's like
Speaker 1: you don't know enough about this guy to really have
Speaker 1: like a definitive opinion, but you see him as like,
Speaker 1: obviously he's a nice guy. He's a professional athlete that's
Speaker 1: like an exciting and impressive not at all he had
Speaker 1: a good character. Yeah, you don't know. And you're an athlete,
Speaker 1: so you have like well, i mean former athlete. I
Speaker 1: guess I should I'm like hung up retired, but that
Speaker 1: and you still rights like you find that attractive. So
Speaker 1: I think that you kind of like are able to
Speaker 1: like not idolize, but like find it attractive when another
Speaker 1: man is able guys able to be athletic, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, totally, I don't know. What do
Speaker 1: you wish you were? I'm a sport did you play.
Speaker 1: I play all sports okay, except for soccer. I don't
Speaker 1: play soccer or tennis. It's weird because I would actually
Speaker 1: predict that you were like a soccer player hair. I
Speaker 1: was looking at your when I was setting up your
Speaker 1: bio for um you're doing an in depth with almost
Speaker 1: famous yes, And I was looking at your old photos
Speaker 1: from when you went on to The Bachelor, full soccer player, look,
Speaker 1: very shaved sides, top flop hair. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I want to be backham because you're just like you
Speaker 1: don't look like him. When I was like want to
Speaker 1: be potential America last year, I had that short on
Speaker 1: the sides, long on top hair cut, and I was
Speaker 1: just like feeling spontaneous, so I got like stripes shaved
Speaker 1: into the side of my head. I was when I
Speaker 1: was going through the airport, I got shot by like
Speaker 1: customs and they're like, so, well, what team do you
Speaker 1: play for? Like that that it was like a sports
Speaker 1: like a soccer player. Yeah, And then you were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's me. I was not so cool. I wish I
Speaker 1: was an athlete. I'm just cut my hair like that. No, Honestly,
Speaker 1: if I went if like my friend went on a date,
Speaker 1: with somebody, and she was telling me that he had
Speaker 1: like shaved side like lines. I would think that is
Speaker 1: such a red flag that has got to go. Anyways,
Speaker 1: we're not talking about me right now. We're talking about
Speaker 1: you and this mystery man. What's going to happen. He's
Speaker 1: gonna attack you. I almost guarantee. I will say, though,
Speaker 1: don't let Dean if I wanted to share this story,
Speaker 1: don't let Dean set you up. No, this is no,
Speaker 1: this is like do not. So I know he doesn't,
Speaker 1: and I'm so thankful because I got a little snippet
Speaker 1: of why he doesn't set up people usually. So we
Speaker 1: were in Vegas and I was telling him about like wow,
Speaker 1: like Mike's actually a cool guy. Like we were just
Speaker 1: kind of talking, yeah he didn't end up with almost famous,
Speaker 1: And I was telling him like wow, like he has
Speaker 1: a such crazy story about him, like it's crazy, so
Speaker 1: many layers, and he's like really like him. I'm like
Speaker 1: what am I in second grade? He's like, oh, my
Speaker 1: goad net really like him? And I'm like no, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying it's cool. Like I I didn't know he
Speaker 1: had this many levels to him. So come nine time,
Speaker 1: after a few mabe maybe a few drinks, like one
Speaker 1: or two, maybe ten, and um, we all are doing
Speaker 1: a little after party for dinner, and Mike's right behind
Speaker 1: Dean and I'm talking with the friends that right right
Speaker 1: next to Dean, and Dean's like Dory Dory, and I'm like, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm right here. Dan, like what's up. He's like, have
Speaker 1: you met Mike Mike? Do you know met Mike? Mike?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, isn't he attractive? Tory? Tory don't do like Mike.
Speaker 1: And I'm like trying to play it off cool. So
Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, like, oh yeah, I'm not cool. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, I didn't even tell you I want I
Speaker 1: was interested. I was just sitting He seemed like a
Speaker 1: cool guy, and he decided to take the reins on
Speaker 1: it and just make it. I feel like I was
Speaker 1: on the playground because then I can never work after that.
Speaker 1: And he's like, can you compete with Demi? And I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, like I don't want to. Well, it
Speaker 1: was there's nothing worse than that. I've experienced several the times.
Speaker 1: And then you just shut down. You're like okay, well
Speaker 1: because you can't play. It sounds like I've been texting
Speaker 1: Dean that I'm in love with for the past thirty hours,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I literally told you one comment, so
Speaker 1: don't let Dean set you up. I don't love the
Speaker 1: idea of having defended to defend my drunk action because
Speaker 1: I agree with you it's pretty messed up. But also
Speaker 1: I made these decisions to act this way. So I'm
Speaker 1: going to sit here and say that it was funny, okay,
Speaker 1: and there were five minutes later, I will say this
Speaker 1: is the state we were in. Five minutes later, he
Speaker 1: was dancing on the table, so it wasn't his best timing,
Speaker 1: but it was just like, oh my god, it would
Speaker 1: never again. Please. So your your advice to Heather is
Speaker 1: to avoid anything that I'm able to do because it's
Speaker 1: gonna be bad and awkward if he just brings you
Speaker 1: a man. Just now, it's let me. I'll share a
Speaker 1: story with you that's very similar to that story. Actually,
Speaker 1: my first day at my first job post college. Uh
Speaker 1: not maybe like my third day, so it's very like,
Speaker 1: you know, still brand new at this company. Um. This
Speaker 1: company I worked out was full of basically like fret
Speaker 1: like new college graduates that were all like ridiculously attractive
Speaker 1: and charismatic and like outgoing whatever that was their hiring model,
Speaker 1: and we were I went to lunch with a couple
Speaker 1: of people that I had become friends with over the
Speaker 1: past couple of days, and they were like, so, who
Speaker 1: do you think like the most attractive girl in the
Speaker 1: office is? And I go, oh, I think it's actually
Speaker 1: Ashley was like she like blows my mind how hot
Speaker 1: this girl is. And I was like, she was sitting
Speaker 1: in the chair next to me in the office, and
Speaker 1: like three of the guys that I was at lunch
Speaker 1: with are like looking at me doing the same thing,
Speaker 1: like oh, Dean, like, look who's sitting next to you, man,
Speaker 1: Look who it is? Look who it is? And I
Speaker 1: was just like I was like so ashamed and awkward
Speaker 1: and embarrassed. And I was like, Ashley, I think you're
Speaker 1: really hot, by the way, And I don't know, it's
Speaker 1: just hard because I didn't say that about Mike, so
Speaker 1: I could have been like, oh, Mike, here's a scenario.
Speaker 1: It was just like it was just did I do
Speaker 1: anything about it? Did you guys like talk after? Probably
Speaker 1: just fed easy ego. I don't know, Yeah, he's got
Speaker 1: a lot of that, I think, yeah, okay, we actually,
Speaker 1: while we're on the topic of Mike for Heather, is
Speaker 1: there anyone vagination that you think is cute that you
Speaker 1: think you'd maybe want to date. I'm sorry to get
Speaker 1: off topic of Tori and her story. Please do This
Speaker 1: is just a sidebar that I need to know. And
Speaker 1: then can we d M him right now? Yea, and
Speaker 1: Dean will do the pitch for you. We'll call him
Speaker 1: up on the podcast. That's so scary. Um, Honestly, come on,
Speaker 1: there's got to be one in a relationship or not.
Speaker 1: I loved Peter, but he's a bachelor, so I honestly,
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's another Peter that was on my season.
Speaker 1: Great guy, incredibly handsome. Oh yeah, we can call him up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't think Peter would like me.
Speaker 1: I don't think that. No, I don't really know much
Speaker 1: about that Peter. Did you think about going on this
Speaker 1: season for pilot Pete? No, I don't think. I don't
Speaker 1: think no. I mean, but he was like Hannah and
Speaker 1: it all ended really weird. He was the one guy
Speaker 1: that sit out to you from Yeah. I thought he
Speaker 1: was the Yeah, yeah, he stit out to me. It
Speaker 1: was sweet. Well, I mean, hey, Hannah left her season
Speaker 1: a bachelor at single. Peter might leave his season a
Speaker 1: bachelor single. You never know, it could be a trend.
Speaker 1: I don't feel like they'll do that. I don't think
Speaker 1: so either, But I think I'm a little disappointed. I
Speaker 1: feel like Peter Peter was a safe answer. Well, do
Speaker 1: do you have anyone in mind that it would be?
Speaker 1: I just wanted you to like something I could egg
Speaker 1: on a little bit more. I don't even know. Peter
Speaker 1: is still like film in Yeah, honestly, that's like that's
Speaker 1: my parent. I probably would have been good like they're
Speaker 1: just I don't know. Yeah, I get it. Who from
Speaker 1: Paradise was single that I could see you? Matt O'Connor.
Speaker 1: What about Connor? Connor asked? He's like tall, handsome, driven.
Speaker 1: I don't know much about Connor if he really? Is
Speaker 1: he super? I like, really like like smiley, outgoing? Is
Speaker 1: he like that? I don't know, I mean a good
Speaker 1: four days. I don't know. He didn't seem like that.
Speaker 1: But you guys would be a very I would love
Speaker 1: looking at pictures you guys, because you would be very
Speaker 1: esthetically pleasing I like that, or Matt Donald would have
Speaker 1: great for you. Thank you. Next I met him, He's
Speaker 1: very sweet, but yeah, not for you, not for me?
Speaker 1: Why not? Um, I don't know. He just wasn't. I
Speaker 1: don't know. You need to find like a bad boy.
Speaker 1: I like, I like someone who's like I like, not
Speaker 1: really kind, but I also like like my whole family
Speaker 1: is like super sarcastic, really like dry, and I really
Speaker 1: like that. I want you to find someone that has
Speaker 1: like like face tattoos. Yes, I love like little lip
Speaker 1: one in your legs? Well, what's wrong with the lip
Speaker 1: Let's back up for a second. Let's not talk too much.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, righteous had it like six years. I
Speaker 1: thought it comes after did I that's like fully on
Speaker 1: there six years. I was really drunk. I really wanted
Speaker 1: one of those because I heard it. Like it's like
Speaker 1: three months. I think that I don't know what it
Speaker 1: is exactly. Maybe they like used a bigger needle and
Speaker 1: so it's just like deeper in my lip. But it
Speaker 1: looks like I got it yesterday. Yeah, I've had it
Speaker 1: for thanks. Yeah, I'm really excited about it. Like I
Speaker 1: would think you're like staying your teeth or something at first,
Speaker 1: it was like kind of tender down there because obviously
Speaker 1: it's like did really bad to get done. I was
Speaker 1: really drunk. And anyway, if you're listening to this podcast
Speaker 1: and you think you have a good guy from Bachelor
Speaker 1: Nation for Heather, I want to hear what you have
Speaker 1: to say. Email us at I suck at dating at
Speaker 1: iHeart Media dot com. Right, that's right? Email? Yeah, okay, cool.
Speaker 1: I feel like sometimes I say the wrong email I
Speaker 1: suck at dating at iHeart media dot com. Heather, I
Speaker 1: know there's a guy out there for you, and I
Speaker 1: want them to be in Bachelor Nation, and I want
Speaker 1: to be the one to facilitate this introduction. I would
Speaker 1: I would love it. I'm open so but actually maybe
Speaker 1: not after Victoria's things, I feel like we need you
Speaker 1: to be more open. No, I'm open, I really am.
Speaker 1: I'm just picky. Okay, I'm like fully open and ready.
Speaker 1: I think I think I'm just like I just I'm
Speaker 1: not going to just date because I'm like just for fun,
Speaker 1: just for the heck of it. What does um, what
Speaker 1: does a normal week look like for you? Because like
Speaker 1: for me, for instance, like when I quit my job,
Speaker 1: like I had a lot of time to explore like
Speaker 1: hobbies and interest and a lot of time. Like it
Speaker 1: was me figuring out what I was interested in, so
Speaker 1: I had like a lot of free time in my hands.
Speaker 1: Like the thing was, I was like, I've got time.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna date people, you know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not my go to Okay, you've got other interest.
Speaker 1: Like I'm almost like more like I was before the show.
Speaker 1: I was like kind of just like I don't like dating.
Speaker 1: I'm only going to date like really intentionally or something.
Speaker 1: I like, it's just not It's not like I've been
Speaker 1: trying to date intentional. I just like, really, it's not
Speaker 1: enjoyable for me unless I like them. But even after,
Speaker 1: I think even my guard is more up because I'm
Speaker 1: like I'm not going to respond to like a random
Speaker 1: DM or like what is your motivation? And yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Well, are you on any dating apps? Not?
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think I can do dating apps.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been on one? What do you feel like? Riya,
Speaker 1: that's everyone who thinks that they're super cool and that's
Speaker 1: the worst. That is the absolutely I mean I've been
Speaker 1: on right before. You're absolutely right. Yeah, I don't think that.
Speaker 1: I think that's worse. Well, the guys out there somewhere
Speaker 1: just okay. One day I suck a dating at i
Speaker 1: heeart media dot com. I want to hear who you
Speaker 1: guys think how they should be paired up with, because
Speaker 1: we're going to figure this out. Like I said, the
Speaker 1: Hell by Sucker Dating podcast is like a kiss of life.
Speaker 1: You come on this podcast and you come out the
Speaker 1: other side in a relationship. Mark my words. The end
Speaker 1: of this podcast. What is the day, October October twenty
Speaker 1: nine at pm Mark my words. Heather is going to
Speaker 1: find a relationship and I'm going to give it before
Speaker 1: the end of the year. And it's going to be
Speaker 1: an intentional one too. It's not going to be just
Speaker 1: some fling with some dude who's cute and tall and
Speaker 1: laid back, but uh determined. We're gonna find the guy
Speaker 1: for you. Anyways, Heather, thank you so much for joining
Speaker 1: us and being a co host of Help by Sucker Dating.
Speaker 1: I want you. I want to hear more often. I
Speaker 1: know it's kind of a long drive from San Diego.
Speaker 1: Are you up here just for this? I was watching
Speaker 1: Handle last night. Oh yeah, that's right. Dancing with the
Speaker 1: Stars heck, yeah, how'd you do? She's great? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: she was really good. She's amazing. So um. Big thank
Speaker 1: you to Bridget Mark Court for being a guest on
Speaker 1: our podcast as well. I probably but with that last name.
Speaker 1: But be sure to tune into her seance at what
Speaker 1: is the website one more time? It is Ghost Magnet
Speaker 1: podcast dot com on October thirty seven pm Pacific, ten
Speaker 1: pm Eastern UM, and be sure to follow her on
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Speaker 1: Big thank you to Mark and Easton and Tori for
Speaker 1: always just being the open book that you are. Your life.
Speaker 1: It's as great at it it is. There are some
Speaker 1: hurdles that you have to conquer. You're gonna text you.
Speaker 1: He's gonna textar tomorrow. Next week we're gonna be recording
Speaker 1: from Napa Valley. It's gonna be Jared and Katie mo
Speaker 1: are gonna be co hosting, and Tori. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: be there, but I want you to step in and
Speaker 1: update us on whether you went to the game or not. Okay,
Speaker 1: please And if you're listening to this podcast and you
Speaker 1: want to hear as well, please like send her DM
Speaker 1: on Instagram or like, do you have a Twitter? Tweet
Speaker 1: her We're gonna figure out how to get this to happen.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna text Jared. We're gonna get this figured out. Anyways.
Speaker 1: Thank you to listen. Thank you for listening to this
Speaker 1: week's episode of Help I Suck At Dating. Be sure
Speaker 1: to tune in next week, where maybe we will suck
Speaker 1: a little bit less. Follow Help I Suck At Dating
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