1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,599 Speaker 1: My sister gave up her kid for adoption and didn't 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: tell anybody. I'm trying to find her kid now and 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: it's worse than I thought. 4 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: Wait, so there there's a missing kid. 5 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: The mom of this kid just looks like that she 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: messed up eleven ways to Sunday over here. 7 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 3: I don't know. 8 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: I guess the only way is to maybe like put 9 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: that face on some milk cartons. We might have to 10 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: go please, or go to every target or cost go 11 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: and be like on the louch geger speaker, Hello, we 12 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: have a missing child. He's not maybe he's probably not 13 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 2: in this this grocery store, but is somewhere Ilease find him. 14 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 3: I was lost in the grocery store a few times. 15 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm still lost in the. 16 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 3: Grocery part every day in my soul. 17 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: So my sister had a second child and we were 18 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: all thrilled for her. 19 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 3: Congrats, congrats. 20 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: She lives a few states over and we haven't seen 21 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: her since last year. She had one child two years 22 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: ago with her boyfriend, and the other one was born 23 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: last month. Yesterday we had a family zoo meeting to 24 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: see the baby and say hi to my other nibbling 25 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: Nibbling's a cute name. That is a very adorable We 26 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: got on and the family starts to load in. Everyone 27 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: is basically they're thrilled to see the baby. We get 28 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: to meet her new baby boy. And after a bit 29 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: I asked to see my niece as well. She got 30 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: quiet and very quietly said that she didn't have her. 31 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: Wait, wait this new baby, the niece, the new baby niece. 32 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: I think the old baby the toddler. Wait, the toddler. 33 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: Shouldn't have the toddler. My aunt questioned this, and I 34 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: was also confused. After a few minutes, my sister said 35 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: that in the beginning of January, she put her daughter 36 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: up for closed adoption because she couldn't care for two kids. 37 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 3: Wait, wait, the older daughter. 38 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: The older daughter. Somehow that is worse, Like, ah, it 39 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: is that sucks. And like imagine being given away by 40 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: your parent, like being cared for initially and then yeah, 41 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: being given like that doesn't even make sense, Like eventually 42 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: the baby is going to be a toddler. 43 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: You just have to do all that work over again. Literally, 44 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: if you're. 45 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 3: Gonna give any of your kids away, give away. 46 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: The younger one, the one that you put to work 47 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: into my goodness, and nobody knows. After a few minutes, 48 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: everyone lost it. The whole zoom was a mess. 49 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 3: We didn't know. 50 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: We never got to say goodbye. She didn't have to 51 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: do this because any one of us would have taken 52 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: my niece. I could have taken her. I've had multiple 53 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: miscarriages and fertility issues. And although I'm currently pregnant and stable, 54 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: owning a home and have the resources. 55 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 3: Wait, so the whole family could have the entire like basically. 56 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 2: Why that as a first like like a first action. 57 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: And literally to tell nobody this is like also months ago, 58 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: months a god, so I have the resources to have 59 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: taken it a toddler as well as my own baby. Important. 60 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: My sister has always said that she wanted to be 61 00:02:58,480 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: a boy mom. 62 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 3: Really is that what? She? 63 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: Just one child policied her? So, my god, she just 64 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: CCPDE like Mike. I would already take care of Madden. 65 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: Can till the field? Uh Communist party? 66 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,119 Speaker 3: She has CCPDE, but she's about to get CPS. Oh, 67 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 3: let's go. 68 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: I lost it. I called my sister a narcissistic punt. 69 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: I asked her when she'd get bored of their new 70 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: baby and get rid of that one too. 71 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 3: Valid question, valid question, true. 72 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: I asked her how the hell she could do this 73 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: without reaching out to the family. I know my sister, 74 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: and I know deep down she just doesn't want a daughter. 75 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: Oh God. 76 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: She was depressed when she found out that she was 77 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: having a girl, but got thrilled for this entire recent 78 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: pregnancy with the boy. 79 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: Where's like the man's in this whole situation. 80 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 3: I guess he went along with it because it's the 81 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 3: same guy. 82 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: That's insane. 83 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 3: I called her a mom for. 84 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: Treating the children that she didn't want to care for 85 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: like they were a novelty. I said some other things too, 86 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: I'm guessing a little harsher at this point. My grandma 87 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: is a complete mess and says her chest hurts, so 88 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: I stop. My aunt, who is with my grandmother, goes 89 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: to help her and turns off the camera. 90 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 3: Oh no. 91 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: My grandmother ended up having a panic attack that they 92 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: thought was a heart attack at first. 93 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 3: Hotly, I am so glad that she is okay. 94 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: So I ended up okay, But my goodness, my sister 95 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: has since cut off all contact from the entire family. 96 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: My father has pissed at me for blowing up. I 97 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: was the only one who did. 98 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 3: But are you, dude? 99 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: The Opie rightfully blew up, like if this this is 100 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: something that you blow up about. Literally, someone of your 101 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: family gives away their kid for no good reason, for 102 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: no for for not just no good reason, the worst 103 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: imaginable reason. 104 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 3: Oh my god, people, dude. 105 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: He said that he could have tried to convince her 106 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: to reverse it, but with my verbal lashing, it completely 107 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: ruined any chance of getting my niece back. I don't 108 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: think he understands what a closed adoption means. Also, adoption 109 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: takes a minute, so for her to have completed it 110 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: by January makes me feel that the entire process was 111 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 1: in place for a minute. I don't think there's any 112 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: chance of seeing my niece again when the father and 113 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: mother both signed her to be adopted. Oh my god, 114 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: he's mad at me because he lost his granddaughter and 115 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: is now afraid he'll never know his new grandson. My 116 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: dad thinks I'm an a hole for freaking out and 117 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: nearly giving my grandmother a heart attack. 118 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 3: Wait wait, wait, op is being blamed for this. You 119 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 3: gotta be joking. 120 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: We're directing the anger in the wrong direction, my guy. 121 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: I'm feeling guilty that my grandmother had such an extreme reaction, 122 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: but I feel that's more because she lost her great granddaughter. 123 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's definitely the reason. 124 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 3: Yes, so this is not on op edit. 125 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: I've also contacted local child protective services in my sister's area, 126 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: local courts, and I have a lawyer looking into this 127 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: for me starting tomorrow, as I just obtained them. Thank 128 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: you for all the helpful comments pointing out all the 129 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: issues with this, Especially thank you to those in social 130 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: work who reached out to me privately. I didn't realize 131 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: how many options I had to fight this or to 132 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: see if it was legit. I'll up to you when 133 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: I find out more from the lawyer. Lots of people think. 134 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:23,559 Speaker 3: This is fake. 135 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: I really wish it was. This has been a nightmare. 136 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: Thank you again to the people with helpful suggestions and feedback. 137 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: All right, so we got a decent bit of updates here. Okay, 138 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: but I have to check in with you all. Did 139 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: op overreacts? Like, technically speaking, one could say that this reaction, 140 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: you know, if she had held it in, maybe the. 141 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 3: Sister would be still in the picture. 142 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: But honestly, it seems like there's a ton of other options. 143 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 2: So yeah, I say the reaction is completely valid. Yeah, 144 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: especially given the reasoning like, oh, I just want I 145 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 2: just want a boy, Like that's pretty fucked. 146 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: Up, dumbest bang ever to abandon a child. Yeah, that 147 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: you've been raising, especially your older child. That just seems fat. 148 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, something about it just does feel worse. Yeah. 149 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: I don't know what do you guys think, because like 150 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: that feels worse to me. But maybe maybe we're we're 151 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: not seeing something here, Si Leah, let us know in 152 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: the comments. 153 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 3: But let's go to the update. All right, we got 154 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 3: we got some we got a good little Meeta update here. 155 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 3: First update. 156 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: I'm pursuing legal custody and due to this, I will 157 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: not be providing more updates. My lawyer recommended this. The 158 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: kid comes first. I can say a few things. One, 159 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: they found her. Oh, the adoption process started a year 160 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: ago in silence as a private rehoming. 161 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 3: A year ago. Wow. 162 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: It was explained to me that we could fight it 163 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: as they skipped steps in the process. My sister told 164 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: them that she had no family and that the family 165 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: she does have is abusive. 166 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 2: So she just lied. 167 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 3: She just lied. 168 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: And I mean it's like, maybe the abusive part will 169 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: be hard to prove. But like she said that she 170 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: doesn't have any family, which is like you have like 171 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: legally recorded family members. 172 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 2: Well, I guess what she said, I have no family 173 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: in the family I do have is abusive. 174 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but seems easy to kind of like attack. 175 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: In the legal case, there was abuse on our mother's side, 176 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: but they are long gone. 177 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: Now. 178 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: Three, there's an open investigation into my sister already because 179 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: of the way she surrendered custody of her daughter. So 180 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: it looks like I guess the alarm bells went off 181 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: and she's already investigated. 182 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 3: Wow side of Op's case. Hope. So I'm honestly glad 183 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 3: to hear that. 184 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: Number Four, I'm going to temporarily move into an apartment 185 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: in that area so I'm close by in case CPS 186 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: takes custody of my nephew. It was explained that this 187 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: is the only way that I could actively fight for 188 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: custody by being available and close. 189 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 2: Wow, Op is is really I make a lot of 190 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: sacrifices here. 191 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: A lot of sacrifices like shout out to. 192 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 2: Op op issane. 193 00:08:58,320 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 194 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: So someone found another update in another thread. It reads 195 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: as follows, I'm unsure how to react to this new information. 196 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: I'm six months pregnant with my first after multiple losses. 197 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: My mother in law informed my husband that she won't 198 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: be getting anything for us for a baby shower because 199 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: she's setting up her own nursery. She's using my old crib, 200 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: which my husband originally thought we would get. I'm fine 201 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: with not getting this old crib. I would actually rather 202 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: buy a new one. We may be getting custody of 203 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: my sister's children as well. It says children plural whoa, 204 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: and my mother in law made it clear that they 205 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't be welcome, but she had room for my future child. 206 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: She sends pictures for her nursery and it's almost complete, 207 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: while we didn't start hours. Honestly, it's gorgeous. 208 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 2: Oooh. So the mother is saying, I'll take your kid 209 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: that's in your belly right now, and you take the 210 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 2: two kids from your sister. 211 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: I think I think the mother in law is saying, like, 212 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 1: I'm happy to welcome your child into our family at large. 213 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 2: But not these other kids, these other kids, and she's 214 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: building a nursery. 215 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is weird. 216 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: We just bought a house and we were saving for 217 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: the possibility of taking in my sister's children. We aren't 218 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: going all out on a nursery. We're being frugal and 219 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: mindful of it. Meanwhile, she clearly spent thousands of dollars already. 220 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: It's just odd that she's building a full blown nursery. 221 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: I'm a bit confused on why she's doing this. She 222 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: doesn't talk to me much, so she doesn't know that 223 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: I plan on exclusively breastfeeding for a bit and doing 224 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: attachment bonding. Frankly, I don't think my child would be 225 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: spending the night till after six months. I'm unsure of 226 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: how to react to this. 227 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 2: Oh, so basically like it's like, hey, I'll help out 228 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 2: with you raising the kid. I'll have this this nursery, 229 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 2: so i'll ever need help, I can take care of it. 230 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: But I'm not going to take care of your sister's 231 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 2: kids interests. 232 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 3: That's weird. 233 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's all bunch a weird family A lot. 234 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: Going on here, honestly, So Okay, I guess the big 235 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: question is we've heard everything. 236 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 3: What would you all do in this scenario? 237 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: Az op have like the new kids, which seems like 238 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: you might be able to get both of them and 239 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: the mother in law that's now like seems trying to 240 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: kind of encroach. 241 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 3: Well, I think it's more like she's offered. 242 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 2: It seems like she's offering to help raise the baby 243 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 2: that is like biologically related to her. Yeah, but she's like, no, 244 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: I don't want to take care of those other kids 245 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: with all the drama like those are that's your deal, 246 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: But I'll help take care of the other kids. 247 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: Like you're almost in like like if you spend all 248 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: this money on a nursery or are you trying to 249 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: like almost like kidnap them in a way, like like 250 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: I'll give me the baby so I can raise it. 251 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 2: That's like almost what it feels like. It feels a 252 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 2: little there's like it feels weird. There's a weird subtext 253 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: going on here. I want to are you guys like 254 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 2: a little creeped out by this? I feel like I'm 255 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: a little a little wary about this. I would love 256 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 2: to know what you guys think. But I think op 257 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: is doing the best she can with what she's got. Yes, yes, 258 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 2: shitty hand that was dealt. She's doing her best and 259 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: low Key is saint for adopting those kids from what 260 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 2: seems to be like a pretty dub home. 261 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: Like literally, she you know, moved to try and get them. 262 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: She's like saving on a big home to accommodate everything. 263 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: And you know she was this whole time planning on 264 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: just having one child. Now she's gonna have three children. Yeah, 265 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: you know, and like like a newborn, a toddler, and 266 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: you know, a baby that's a few months old. 267 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 2: It's a lot. It's a lot. But let me know 268 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 2: what you guys would do. Please put in the comments. 269 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 2: This one's a doozy. We'll see you soon, love you. Yeah, 270 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 2: and if you don't want this to happen to you, 271 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: maybe just like use protection. 272 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: Please wrap it up, guys, please from your friends or 273 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: pillot or pillot for ladies. 274 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 2: Out there, just stop it, stop it right now, or 275 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 2: maybe just go go completely celibate. 276 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 3: You know. I like that. 277 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 2: You know what they say back in the old days 278 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: of sex said, you know, the only safe sex is 279 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 2: no sex. 280 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 3: Here we go, bringing it back. 281 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: She refused to believe my service dog was real, so 282 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 2: I got her frickingy fired. 283 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, that dog supposed to save your life. 284 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, that dog with its little cute vez dog, 285 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 2: that's not real. 286 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, all those papers you have from your doctor and 287 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: you know clearly clearly falsified for sure. I mean I 288 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: can teach my dog to sit and shake and roll. 289 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: You know the service dog dog dog go fetch? Do 290 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 1: we this service I go fetch over here? Is that 291 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 1: a service dog? 292 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 3: No? 293 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 2: I work for a smallish company around eighty people, and 294 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 2: I have epilepsy and I have a seizure alert dog. 295 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 3: Is it just like? Okay, I was, I was asking you. 296 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 3: It was about to ask a question, but that it 297 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 3: already has the answer. There we go. 298 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, she can detect when I am about to have 299 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 2: a seizure, which helps me get somewhere safe. She's alerted 300 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: when I'm on the stairs, so I know to sit 301 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 2: down immediately, or if I'm walking along a busy road, 302 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 2: I can move off to the side, which is so amazing. 303 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: I mean, like that's now, that's wild that dogs. Now 304 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: you're sounding like the woman. Well, I'm sure you know 305 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: how like dogs. I know, it's crazy, Like how does 306 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: that even work? 307 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 2: I have no, I have no idea like like you 308 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 2: know how dogs in like sense, like if an earthquake 309 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 2: is coming right a couple of minutes before humans do, 310 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: like I guess like this is like like a human quake. 311 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: So basically sounds like it's it's that but for epilepsy, 312 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: which is it's wild dude, that's. 313 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: Like, I wow, dogs are crazy. Dog dog dogs are 314 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 2: the real one, all right, all right, So like I 315 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 2: know we're gonna go into this whole whole story. This 316 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 2: person is like obviously like the the company is kind 317 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: of like a dick. 318 00:14:53,200 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 3: But like it's crazy that dogs could do that. Like 319 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 3: that baffles me. 320 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: Why Like the person who has epilepsy ye cannot even 321 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 2: tell that they're going to get an epileptic attack, but 322 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 2: the dog can tell before they can tell. 323 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 3: It's it's absolutely nuts. 324 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: That's bonkers and like hot, Like what what within a 325 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: dog makes it so it can sense that? Like how 326 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: how is it even possible? I have no idea, Like 327 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: I ain't that dog, And we're never going to find 328 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: out because we're not going to google it. We're not 329 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: going to we're not going to check our facts. Maybe 330 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: we'll maybe we'll google later in the story. 331 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 3: Maybe we will, Maybe we'll see maybe maybe won't. We'll 332 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 3: keep you on your toes. 333 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 2: Yo. 334 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 3: She's very good at what she does. 335 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 2: Usually I get a two or three minute warning and 336 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 2: can ask for help. Or preemptively call someone like my 337 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 2: husband two or three minutes. 338 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm amazed. 339 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: I have to imagine so helpful, like okay, now I 340 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: can call someone get to a safe place like exactly amazing. 341 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 2: Shall also find a person and direct them to my 342 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 2: medical alert bracelet if I'm unable to tell someone what 343 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 2: is happening ahead of time. 344 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 3: This dog is fucking smartest. 345 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 2: Frick bro love this dog. Here's the problem. She's a 346 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: smaller dog. She's a twenty pound mutt, so she doesn't 347 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 2: provide mobility assistance of any kind. She also doesn't wear 348 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 2: a full harness like a seeing eye dog would. She 349 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: walks on a standard collar and leash, though she does 350 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 2: have a fabric vest that says service dog in large letters, 351 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 2: so if someone does see her when she's looking for assistance, 352 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: it's pretty obvious that they should follow her. Recently, we 353 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 2: hired a new VP of HR. This person says they 354 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 2: do not believe that my dog is a real dog, 355 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 2: and it's not an emotional support animal. It's just a 356 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 2: pet I want to bring to work. Just they say 357 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 2: she's too small and she doesn't wear real medical equipment. 358 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 3: Dog lessonsthoscope declare exactly. 359 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, my little twenty pound dog doesn't have her defibulator. 360 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 2: What are you expecting? Like, what do you expect service? 361 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 3: What are you wait? Lab coat on a fucking dog? Bro? 362 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 2: What's that show that it's like like paw Patrol? 363 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, dude, like they're expecting paw. 364 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: Patrol like they're fire I was watching paw Patrol and 365 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: the dogs that are firefighters had the firefighter hat. 366 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, where's your dog's firefighter hat? 367 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 2: Huh? I paid literal tens of thousands of dollars for 368 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 2: this dog and her training. She has saved my life 369 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 2: with her alerts on more than one occasion. She's also 370 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 2: giving me back my freedom I didn't have before because 371 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 2: I was unable to go anywhere alone. The VP of 372 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 2: HR has had no complaints about her behavior. She walks 373 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 2: calmly beside me or rests under my desk during the day. 374 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 2: She doesn't bark and only and the only time I 375 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 2: take her out for a bathroom break is when I'm 376 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: out on lunch. Nobody in the office has said anything 377 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 2: I know of, so it's like, literally no problems. 378 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 3: Literally no one's complaining about this dog. 379 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: But the VP mean, no, you must get rid of 380 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: this dog. 381 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 3: He's a cat person. There we go. Now we figured 382 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 3: it out. 383 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 2: The person simply says they've never heard of a dog 384 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 2: that does this type of work. Oh are you suddenly 385 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 2: the dog expert? 386 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: You know, I've never heard of it before, so how 387 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: can it be true? 388 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 3: Why do you freaking google it? Dude? Like a simple 389 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 3: Google will return this Probably we haven't done the reseach. 390 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 3: We haven't done it, but you should do it. 391 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: Okay. 392 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, And since she hasn't seen it, I've never seen 393 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: a small service dog do this kind of work before. 394 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 3: I must be lying. 395 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 2: I provided paperwork from the training organization and my medical team, 396 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 2: and they say, you can print papers like that. And 397 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 2: then they said you can print papers like that off 398 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 2: the internet. I mean, how much more proof do you want? 399 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: Just it's just unfamous. She literally has the documents from 400 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 2: her medical team, she got the receipts, and the receipts 401 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 2: still ain't outed up for them. 402 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 3: Somehow. 403 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 2: I went to the CEO, the VP of HR's boss 404 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 2: because if I don't have because if I don't have 405 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: my dog, I can't go to work. And they said 406 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 2: this was out of their area of expertise. But couldn't 407 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 2: I just get a bigger dog. What makes you want 408 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 2: to get a bigger dog? 409 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: That's like completely illogical, completely like, oh. 410 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, your hands are tied on this one. It's like, bruh, 411 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 3: her life is tied. Yeah, she can't get dog in here. 412 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 2: And then OP is like, I guess maybe they want that, 413 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 2: so it's obvious they are a working dog. I'm not 414 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 2: really sure what to do from here other than this 415 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: particular incident. I love my job and I'd like to 416 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 2: keep working here. What should I do? But there is 417 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 2: an update and it's mostly positive. My meeting with the 418 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: my meeting with the employment my meeting with the employer 419 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 2: lawyer went well. Like everyone agreed this was a fairly 420 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 2: cut and dry thing where my dog absolutely should be allowed. 421 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 2: We started by going to the friendly route. My lawyer 422 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 2: provided the language for me to attempt to address this 423 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 2: myself in a more official way that went predictably. Nowhere, 424 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 2: the VP of HR doubled down on our stands that 425 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 2: I need to have a real service dog or I 426 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 2: could come to the office without my dog. This is 427 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 2: a freaking real service dog. As an aside, I do 428 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 2: work from home most of the time. And there's no 429 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 2: formal requirement that any of us go in the office. 430 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 2: Even before COVID, I supported our national sales team and 431 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 2: most of us were remote for a significant portion of 432 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 2: our jobs. That being said, I do like to go 433 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 2: in every once in a while. It's less of an 434 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 2: issue with the pandemic since we've halted almost all in 435 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 2: person activities. But once we finally get things under control 436 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 2: for real, we do have team outings that I'd like 437 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 2: to attend. Plus it's nice to get actual face to 438 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 2: FaceTime with my boss. Anyway, I let my direct supervisor 439 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 2: know that HR was continuing to push back on this, 440 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 2: and she my boss, attempted to plead my case, thinking 441 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 2: if it came from a director level employee, maybe it 442 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 2: would hold more weight. 443 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 3: What do you think happened, John. 444 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: I think the boss was like, Hey, you know what, 445 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: we're tripling down. We're suing you for causing a disturbance 446 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: in the workplace. 447 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 2: Freaking close, and HR shut that down as well, since 448 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 2: sales directors don't understand the ADA rules like HR does. 449 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 2: My boss then told me if I didn't already have 450 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 2: plans to take a more aggressive approach to my lawyer, 451 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 2: she would be doing it on my behalf because this 452 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 2: was ridiculous. 453 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 3: Shout out to the boss. 454 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 2: Dude like her boss sounds awesome, Yeah, buying for her. 455 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 2: My lawyer sent a late My lawyer sent a letter 456 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 2: to my boss, HR and the CEO asking for a 457 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 2: response in forty eight hours before they pushed further. Nobody responded. God, 458 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 2: my boss deliberately did not respond. HR and the CEO 459 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 2: ignored it, didn't notice it. The world will never know, 460 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,719 Speaker 2: but then pushed the letter to the company's board and 461 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 2: things then happened very quickly from there. Although I'm unfortunately 462 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 2: out of a loop the details, what I do know 463 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 2: is a CEO claimed he misunderstood what I was saying 464 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 2: when I asked him, and of course he supported me 465 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 2: and my dog coming into the office. It wasn't a misunderstanding. 466 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 2: It was definitely incompetence, but that's fine. I'm not going 467 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 2: to fight that battle, and HR quietly underwent restructuring. Are 468 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: Our VP left for other opportunities last week with no 469 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 2: other comments. We're pretty sure she was just pushed out. 470 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: Although we are a smaller company, we do hold a 471 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 2: sizeable government contract and an eighty A lawsuit would go 472 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 2: against the main service we provide, which is like death 473 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 2: because of death. 474 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: That is literally so tragical, hilarious. Literally, their their service, 475 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: giant contract is in jeopardy because of their own idiocracy 476 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 1: of dealing with this. 477 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 2: I know, like you would think they would know what 478 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 2: they're doing, but none, Nope, no, no way know how 479 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 2: do they know what? 480 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 3: We know? The rules? It's okay, you're stupid. 481 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 2: Our board was very interested in making sure we didn't 482 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 2: do anything to jeopardize that cond I do wish the 483 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 2: board and CEO had taken a firm or stance and 484 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 2: admitted to the error while publicly committing to make sure 485 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 2: that any and all employees felt welcome, but they did 486 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 2: reach out and apologize to me personally, so I'll let 487 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 2: that go too. All in all, terrible HR is gone. 488 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 2: My boss was supportive as she could be and went 489 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 2: to bat for me every single time, and once the 490 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 2: office is fully open to my dog, I will be 491 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 2: able to go into the office as needed. Josie, the 492 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 2: dog in question, received lots of pets and loving at 493 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 2: the request of the commenters, and continues to be a 494 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 2: very good girl. 495 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: Whoever this VP is, you suck at a VP of 496 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: HR you are the worst. 497 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 3: I hope you will never get another job or a dog. 498 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 3: Or a dog. Yeah, you don't deserve it. You deserve 499 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 3: You do not deserve a dog. You're the least deserving 500 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 3: a dog of anyone in history. Facts done, done, Donzell, 501 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 3: your career is over.