1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 3: Hey, hey, and away we go on a Friday. 9 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 4: It's the Herd here on Fox Sports Radio, but no Colin. 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 3: It is LeVar Arrington and Jonas Knox sitting in for 11 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 3: Colin and crew. You can hear LeVar and myself alongside 12 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 3: Brady Quinn weekday mornings on a Fox Sports Radio on 13 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 3: two Pros and a Cup of Joe six am Eastern Time, 14 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 3: three o'clock Pacific. But today we take you live all 15 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: the way up until three eastern noon Pacific. If you 16 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 3: are listening on the podcast, we appreciate you doing and 17 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 3: so and. 18 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 4: We are off and running on this Friday. What up? Sticks, Hey, 19 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 4: we're awake? 20 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 5: Yeh? 21 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 6: What I'm talking about doing a show in the daylights? 22 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 3: And man, you you wrap bastards in. You're six to 23 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 3: seven hours sleep a night. You guys got a good 24 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 3: real good. You've got a good no. One am wake 25 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 3: up call for us. A little bit of traffic on 26 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 3: the one to one slash four h five, but we 27 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 3: are rocking and rolling here and ready to go. And 28 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 3: since we're back in this chair and it's been a 29 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,279 Speaker 3: little while, it's appropriate we talk about somebody who. 30 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 4: Was also back. 31 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 3: Jason Tatum, less than ten months after suffering the achilles 32 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 3: tear in the playoff game against the New York Knicks, 33 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 3: will be in the lineup for the Boston Celtics coming 34 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 3: up later on tonight against the Dallas Mavericks. I know, LaVar, 35 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 3: you've dealt with the achilles issue before. I'm kind of 36 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 3: surprised that he's back this soon. But here we go 37 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 3: with return to Jason Tatum to an already really good 38 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 3: Boston Celtics team who probably didn't expect they were going 39 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 3: to be in this spot at this point in the year. 40 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 6: A really good Jalen Brown led Boston Celtics team, we 41 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 6: should add and listen, I look at it like this. 42 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 7: The. 43 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 6: Professional even just any type of competition, right college, pro, 44 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 6: even high school. 45 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 4: When you've established. 46 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 6: Yourself as the guy, you're the franchise, things are handled 47 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 6: a certain type of way, you do things, a certain 48 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 6: type of way, you're treated a certain type of way. 49 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 6: The respect factor is very different. When you get injured, 50 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 6: there's a moment of truth. Right, it either solidifies further 51 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 6: solidifies your efforts that you've put forth as a healthy 52 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 6: player and how the team has been able to accomplish. 53 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 6: And when that that that participation is gone due to 54 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 6: an injury, it either shows yep, Jason Tatum is the 55 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 6: reason why we are able to win. We got a championship, 56 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 6: world title. We were set for. 57 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 4: The future. 58 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 6: Right, you got a sidekick in Jalen Brown, But Jason 59 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 6: Tatum is the guy. Jason Tatum goes down. But yet 60 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 6: this team is second in the Eastern Conference. They're seventy 61 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 6: forty one and twenty one on the season, and they're 62 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 6: in great position to make a deep run in the 63 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 6: NBA playoffs. It has emerged that Jalen Brown could be 64 00:03:54,680 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 6: in the conversation of being the new face and franchise 65 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 6: player for this Celtics team. So now Jason Tatum is 66 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 6: tasked with not only coming back and playing, but now 67 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 6: he may be saddled with the pressure of coming back 68 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 6: as quickly as he possibly can. Before you realize that 69 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 6: the value of you being the franchise guy all but 70 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 6: dissipates fully from the situation. 71 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 3: It's a really interesting call by Boston by Tatum, because 72 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 3: if they weren't this good, I wonder if this is 73 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 3: even a conversation, because if you look at two other 74 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 3: examples around the league, Damian Lillard and Tyrese Haliburton both 75 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 3: tore their achilles in the playoffs last year, there's not 76 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 3: even a thought that they're going to come back because 77 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 3: those two teams are awful. Okay, the highlight of the 78 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 3: Blazer season thus far was a guy with the ruptured 79 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 3: achilles winning the three point Contest. 80 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 6: Which, by the way, he went back to the Blazer right, 81 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 6: considering that he tore it somewhere else. 82 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, they didn't need him there. Yeah. 83 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 3: So the two highlights for the Blazers this year, not 84 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 3: not to call out the Blazers fan base, but your 85 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 3: two highlights are an injured guy winning the three point 86 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 3: contest and your coach involved in some poker scheme. 87 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 4: Okay, so like you. 88 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 3: Got card counters and three point shootout winners, you don't 89 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 3: have a good team, all right, Maybe maybe a little 90 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 3: bit better and expected and then Indiana is awful. Okay, 91 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 3: whatever happened last year in Indiana, they are the diaper 92 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 3: fire of the East. They might finish with the worst 93 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 3: record in the league. And so the Pacers and Blazers 94 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 3: are like, hey, guys, take your time. Take does take 95 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 3: your time. You know, we've got a legitimate excuse this year. 96 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 3: We're terrible. All of a sudden, Boston starts out the 97 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 3: year and it's like, whoa Nobody thought this was gonna happen. 98 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 3: There was the feeling was, hey man, it's a throwaway year. 99 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 3: And it's not even just the Jason Tatum stuff. Al 100 00:05:55,839 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 3: Horford gone, Drew Holiday gone, Chris SOPs porzingis gone. Those 101 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 3: were all key members of the title team just a 102 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 3: couple of years ago. But they were trying to get 103 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 3: below the second apron. So they just said, hey man, 104 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 3: these are salary cap casualties, is what it is. This 105 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 3: isn't our year, Our best players gone. We'll just roll out. 106 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 3: We'll try and compete as hard as we can. Maybe 107 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 3: we'll sneak in and be a seven or an eight team, 108 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 3: will be in the play in tournament, whatever, but we're 109 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 3: just going to roll this season. Then we're really going 110 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 3: to focus on twenty twenty seven, and then all of 111 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 3: a sudden, they're this through sixty plus games, and I 112 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 3: just wonder, are you making this decision if not for 113 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 3: the fact that this team's a legitimate title contender, especially 114 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 3: with Tatum back. 115 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 6: It's again, the points you make are accurate points, right, 116 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 6: the teams that you're discussing, they aren't competitive teams. You 117 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 6: look at the Celtics team and where they were at, 118 00:06:55,680 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 6: and the conversations that were were ensuing were taking place 119 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 6: in real time. It was always Jason Tatum and Jaylen 120 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 6: Brown and being in second place. Jason Tatum is not 121 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 6: available all season long, and Jalen Brown is averaging what 122 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 6: is it, twenty nine points seven rebounds per game, and 123 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 6: they're a top the Eastern Eastern Conference. So there's second 124 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 6: second place. If you're looking at where things go from 125 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 6: here on out, does it go back to Jason Tatum 126 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 6: and Jalen Brown or does it stay Jalen Brown and 127 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 6: Jason Tatum and insert Jason Tatum that I think that 128 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 6: that is a very real conversation. I think the Celtics 129 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 6: feel confident about where they're at outside of there being 130 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 6: some really, really big names like SGA is in pole 131 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 6: position to get MVP again. 132 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 4: You're seeing what if. 133 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 6: I don't know if y'all watched Winby last night, but 134 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 6: Wemby is balling. 135 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 8: Man. 136 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 3: I saw him hanging out outside of a car dealership. 137 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 3: There's some sale going on. 138 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 6: As long as this desk, his foot is, as long 139 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 6: as this desk would sitting there doing. 140 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 3: This, Him and chet Holmren should just go as win 141 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 3: puppets for Halloween the next seventy years. Just do that 142 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 3: costume covered cheap, inexpensive, throw some drapes on and let it. 143 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 3: Let's call it a day. Wemby takes two steps his foot. 144 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: The tip of his toe from getting a rebound is 145 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: at mid court and two steps. Oh yeah, the tip 146 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 3: of his toe is at mid court and two steps. 147 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, he doesn't have one. 148 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 6: They're talking about Michael Jordan and Doctor j doing dunks 149 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 6: from from the free throw line. Wemby's toe he in 150 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 6: his reach. He could probably move it back to I 151 00:08:59,280 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 6: don't know. 152 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 4: Of course. 153 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 6: Yeah, we're gonna start seeing Winby take off and he's 154 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 6: gonna do the dunk contest. He's gonna take off ford 155 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 6: court and dunk the ball like that. Never seen before 156 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 6: on his ass hit long brouh and and his foot 157 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 6: still gonna be on the ground at big court when 158 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 6: he takes off. 159 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 4: He's just a super stretch. Uh. 160 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 3: Outside of these high profile guys being up for the MVP, 161 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: Jalen Brown's name is in the conversation for league MVP 162 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 3: this year, some of them as high as two. 163 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 4: DeMarcus Cousins has gone on. 164 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 6: Record says he's as high as the second best player 165 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 6: in the NBA all the way up to six to eight, 166 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 6: where his name falls in terms of best Player MVP. 167 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 6: But if we're being real, if we're being real, does 168 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 6: Jalen Brown have the same supporting cast that SGA does? 169 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 6: Does he have the same supporting cast as what wim 170 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 6: Bin Yama has. I would say, No, you just mentioned 171 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 6: some Orford's gone on, Jason Tatum hasn't been around. There's 172 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 6: a different group of people. It's a new group of 173 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 6: people this season for the Celtics, and yet they're playing 174 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 6: at a high level, which would lead to the conversation 175 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 6: of is he the most valuable player to his team? 176 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 6: Maybe they're not the best team, but they're certainly up 177 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 6: there with the best teams. So you can use the 178 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 6: criteria that they have a really competitive team, a good 179 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 6: team that's ranked high because you have to win for 180 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 6: them to consider you an MVP. And now you see 181 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 6: Jason Tatum sitting back watching like, I can't let the 182 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 6: ship get too far. He's swimming, bro, it ain't it's 183 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 6: not boarding the ship. That ship has sailed. But can 184 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 6: he catch it and ken he board this ship and 185 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 6: and re establish himself for what it was that he 186 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 6: wanted was before the injury. 187 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 3: And that's what I wonder is does he feel like 188 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 3: like if they were, you know, a five hundred team, 189 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 3: is he in any rush to get back? 190 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: Na? 191 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 4: Na, take your time, take your time, take your time. 192 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 3: And I can understand the approach of well, if you're 193 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 3: doing this good without him, why would you even force 194 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 3: the issue? But I wonder how much of this is him? 195 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 3: How much of this is Tatum going? Man, I want 196 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 3: back in like I. And that's why I asked, because 197 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 3: you went through the Achilles what I was retired? 198 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 4: Like? What does that look like? 199 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 6: That thing had a grown man in tears, bruh. And 200 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 6: I got a pretty high paying threshold and I limped. 201 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 6: I limped for like two three years after I got 202 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 6: that surgery, like it was. 203 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 4: A very painful. 204 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 6: I've been through some painful things both, yeah, you know, 205 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 6: both both a lean and a limp, you know, because 206 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 6: when you when you yeah, when you're moving around with 207 00:11:55,800 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 6: that hammer, sometimes you lean and sometimes you limp. But 208 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 6: this one in particular was based off of me limping 209 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 6: because my achilles tendant was really tight, it was really sore, 210 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 6: and it just felt like you if you don't know 211 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 6: what it feels like to injure a part as important 212 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 6: as your achilles, you realize it after. And I likened 213 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 6: it to like air and attire. I didn't realize you 214 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 6: could say, okay, air and attire for your feet and 215 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 6: for your legs. But it really felt like the bounce 216 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 6: and the reactiveness of my foot was gone. It was gone. 217 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 6: Like the movement of how you pop off of your 218 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 6: toes and on your foot, and that torque that goes 219 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 6: through the bottom of your leg into your calf muscle 220 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 6: and then shoots up into your quads and then back 221 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 6: into the glutes. 222 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 4: It was gone. 223 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 6: It was gone, and so you have to figure out 224 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 6: many have done it. I mean, it's very commonplace to 225 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 6: come back from that type of injury and that type 226 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 6: of procedure. Many have done it, but it is very 227 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 6: difficult and it is time consuming. It's almost as time 228 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 6: consuming and it's almost I mean, it's. 229 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 4: The biggest I believe it's the biggest. 230 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 6: Ligament in your body, your acl I mean, you're you're 231 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 6: achilles tendon. It's the biggest tendon in your body. And 232 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 6: it's just that's a difficult injury to come back from 233 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 6: and be effective like you once were, let alone come 234 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 6: back in an abbreviated amount of time to do. 235 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 3: So we're gonna catch up with doctor David Chow coming 236 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 3: up later on as soon as he gets done sparring 237 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 3: Ryan Leaf at an octagon somewhere, whenever that gets gets 238 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 3: figured out. But but I bring that up because Reggie 239 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 3: Miller was on the Dan Patrick Show, which you can 240 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 3: hear on many of these Fox Sports radio affiliates, and 241 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 3: he sort of explained the reasoning why some feel that 242 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 3: Tatum is also coming back sooner than a Tyrese Haliburton 243 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 3: and a Dame Lillard. 244 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 4: Let's take a listen. 245 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 7: The best thing if there was knock on Wood, the 246 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 7: best thing when he tore his achilles in Game five, 247 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 7: I believe in New York that the doctor was right there, 248 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 7: that they attached it right away, and the thinking was 249 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 7: the body didn't even know that it had that traumatic experience. 250 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 7: That's how quickly within twenty four hours they had the 251 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 7: surgery on the achilles. So that's why he is so 252 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 7: far ahead of schedule versus a Damian Lillard or Tyrese 253 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 7: Halliburton is because they had the surgery within twenty four hours. 254 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 4: You're not buying that. What you hell now? You know, 255 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 4: Reggie Miller MT. You're not going to buy his thought 256 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 4: process there. 257 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 6: First of all, the body is way more intelligent than 258 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 6: any doctor that will ever work on you. 259 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and look at it, Jason Tatum. After the injury, 260 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 3: it sure seemed like his body knew it was going on. 261 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 4: I'll be honest with you. 262 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 3: Don't give it time to know that it's torn like 263 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 3: uh like, then then just finish the game. 264 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 4: He looked like the guy going through the wood chipper 265 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 4: on Fargo. 266 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 3: How many how much time is that that you have 267 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 3: that to to elapse before your body knew that that's 268 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 3: your dad? You know, like that they just give him 269 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 3: some mouth to mouth before he realized that he died. 270 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 3: You know, it's a theory I love Reggie Miller, but I'm. 271 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 4: Not in on this one. I'm not you heard dad, like, 272 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 4: oh really, huh? 273 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 3: Like I go to break Reggie is he's officially lost, 274 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 3: you know, and he's passing the message on from whatever 275 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 3: you know was said on the documentary. I just look, 276 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 3: and people heal differently and people heal faster. 277 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 4: That is true. I mean people heal different. 278 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 3: Adrian Peterson came back from that knee injury in what 279 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 3: and was like there was no difference between when he 280 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 3: came back from knee injury and when he didn't, other 281 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 3: than you know, not being able to keep his left 282 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 3: hand up in a scuffle after a poker game. But 283 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 3: that again, we're not bringing up the old stuff. But 284 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 3: so there's different people healed differently. I understand that timelines 285 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 3: can be a little different. It just feels like a 286 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 3: lot of this was sped up because of how the 287 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 3: team is done without him. If they were five hundred, 288 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 3: if they were below five hundred, I don't think there's 289 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 3: a shot in hell he could. 290 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 6: That would have been a better question to ask Reggie Miller. 291 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 6: That would have been a better question, like did not 292 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 6: happen with Clay and Steph Curry. Wasn't Clay Thompson the 293 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 6: main dude? And then in some way, somehow, I don't 294 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 6: know if injury was connected to it, but didn't Steph 295 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 6: Curry like take the reins like they you know, like 296 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 6: became the main guy and it never changed, never turned back. 297 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 6: He became the franchise guy. He became the face of 298 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 6: the franchise, legend, hall of fame. Er, goat, there's not 299 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 6: going to be a better player that has ever played 300 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 6: for the Golden State Warriors then Golden State. 301 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, Golden State Warriors. 302 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 6: Then Steph Curry. So I think this is a necessity move. 303 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 6: Whether that's the entirety of it. It doesn't have to 304 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 6: be untrue that he wants to come back and he 305 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 6: wants to play, of course, but if you're not going 306 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 6: to add into the equation the amount of pressure mounting 307 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 6: on Jason Tatum looking at this Jalen Brown led team, 308 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 6: Like imagine if Michael Jordan went out and was injured 309 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 6: due to acl or achilles tendon injury and while he's out, 310 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 6: Scottie Pippen is just going nuts. 311 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,959 Speaker 3: Look at look at the Nick Foles, Carson Wentz stuff. 312 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 3: Carson Wentz was never the same. It was never the same, 313 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 3: and like hell, he don't have a he don't have 314 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 3: a statue, and he was on that team. That knee 315 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 3: injury that he he suffered against the Rams at the Coliseum, 316 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 3: which by the way, is an outhouse, or at least 317 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 3: it was back then, But that injury he suffered at 318 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 3: the Coliseum that changed the course of his career because 319 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 3: where's he? 320 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 4: Where's he now? I think he's in Minnesota? Is he 321 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 4: he's still in the league. 322 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 3: I think there it is because I think he always 323 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,719 Speaker 3: felt like, wow, I was on track to be an 324 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 3: MVP and potentially a super Bowl champion as a starter 325 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 3: and maybe a Super Bowl MVP, and instead my backup 326 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 3: went in there and did it. 327 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 4: He was I don't think he ever got over there. 328 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 3: Bro. 329 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 4: They call the place went win Sylvania. 330 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, there was a moment in time where they said Winsylvania. 331 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 6: That's how well he was doing that season. You couldn't 332 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 6: grow any more hype and excitement around the players. So 333 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 6: you're one hundred percent spot on in that that that reference. 334 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 6: And need I say, Jay Brown is a number one 335 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 6: guy on of the NBA teams and also, by the way, 336 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 6: when they won their title. Who is the MVP of 337 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 6: those finals? 338 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 4: Salen Brown? 339 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 3: So like it's not it's not as if you know 340 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 3: this is a real surprise, but it does. It does 341 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 3: bring up an interesting dynamic of Amen, what does that? 342 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 3: What does that look like? 343 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 6: I'm the captain of his ship? Now player, Hey my ship, 344 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 6: I'm the captain. Now I'm the captain. 345 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 3: Now it is the Herd here on Fox Sports Radio. 346 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 3: He's LeVar Arrington. I'm Jonas Knox in for Colin. We 347 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 3: will have the herdline news coming up later on. As 348 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,719 Speaker 3: mentioned earlier, doctor David Chow is going to stop by. 349 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 3: We're going to get his thoughts on the situation involving 350 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 3: Jason Tate and some other stuff around uh the NFL 351 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 3: as well too, some injured stars, what their value really 352 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 3: looks like on the trade market, so on and so forth. 353 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 3: All of it is yours here on this three hour 354 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 3: extravaganza up next. Though apparently a team has a plan 355 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 3: in place when it comes to quarterback. You don't see 356 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 3: a lot of these days. 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But we do have some news out 381 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 3: of the NFL and what a run it was. Gino 382 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 3: Smith's been released by the Las Vegas Raiders. Highlights for 383 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 3: Geno Smith include LeVar go ahead, there you go? 384 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,479 Speaker 4: All right on this season? Uh Okay, there you go. 385 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 4: You know, I get the. 386 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 3: Look Sam Donald winning Sam Donald because I want to 387 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 3: be I want to be kind of about this because I 388 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 3: like Geno Smith, all right, he seems like he seems 389 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 3: like a good guy from everything I've heard. 390 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 4: But you know, maybe not. 391 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 3: Maybe you know, he had something to do with Chip 392 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 3: Kelly getting clipped and blamed for everybody had. 393 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 4: Something to do with getting clipped. I mean, you know, there. 394 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 3: Could be that too, but I think everybody deserved probably 395 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,719 Speaker 3: a little bit of blame there. But the Geno Smith 396 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 3: Pete Carroll decision by the Raiders ill advised based on 397 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 3: based on what happened last year. And I know that 398 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 3: I get the thought process behind it. It was, you know, 399 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 3: Geno Smith and Pete Carroll have a great relationship. Pete 400 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 3: Carroll helped revitalized Geno Smith's career when he got to Seattle. 401 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 3: They did some really good things, and the thought was, 402 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 3: all right, well let's bring him here and let's pair 403 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 3: these guys back up together. And if you just look 404 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 3: at what happened to Seattle this year, where there was 405 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 3: a clear decision to move on from Pete Carroll, there 406 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 3: was a clear decision to move on from Geno Smith, 407 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 3: and I said at the time, I didn't really understand 408 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 3: what the difference was between Geno Smith and Sam Darnold. 409 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 3: And just to see the way that this turned out 410 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 3: in Las Vegas, just a brutal experience for everybody involved 411 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 3: to where they looked like they got worse every year, 412 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 3: and the thought was, well, you can't do worse than 413 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 3: Antonio Pierce. No, upon further review, that wasn't Antonio piers problem, 414 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 3: all right. There was just issues there because that team stunk. 415 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 3: And so now Gino Smith finds himself, you know, on 416 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 3: the market. You know, we'll probably get picked up somewhere else. 417 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 3: Made a good amount of cash there in Las Vegas 418 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 3: with the Raiders. But the Geno Smith era in Las 419 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 3: Vegas ends as he is released by the Raiders earlier today. 420 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 4: Uh eleven years. How long has he been in the league? 421 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 4: Has been in the league a long time? 422 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, Uh, listen, he got comeback Player of the Year, 423 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 6: he was able to make a Pro Bowl, and I 424 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 6: believe twenty three, twenty twenty two, twenty three, twenty three 425 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 6: he has done well for himself as a player. A 426 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 6: lot of a lot of players who enter the NFL 427 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 6: entered the league and played for a disfunction organization. It's 428 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 6: very rare that you see them have great careers. In fact, 429 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 6: most of them disappear and you never hear of the 430 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 6: go to football purgatory or find themselves in the abyss 431 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 6: of a failing NFL career. I'll raise my hand, I'm 432 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 6: one of them. So when you look at what Geno 433 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 6: Smith was able to do and resurrecting his career, getting 434 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 6: to Seattle and being a part of the resurgence and 435 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 6: the setup of where the Seattle Seahawks would eventually get 436 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 6: to a year removed from him and going and winning 437 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 6: a Super Bowl, I don't think he has anything to 438 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 6: be ashamed of. And when you look at the success 439 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 6: they were able to have, jeez, what they were able 440 00:24:55,720 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 6: to do in Seattle together him and Pete Carroll again, 441 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 6: Pee Carroll had a horrible season as a head coach. 442 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 4: Geno Smith did. 443 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 6: Not have a great year as a QB. Both are 444 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 6: now gone from the team. And then I would say, again, 445 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 6: what's next for Geno Smith? Is it is it a rap? 446 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 6: Does it go somewhere and be a backup? Does he 447 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 6: still have an opportunity to be a starter? In this league, 448 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 6: it's potentially maybe through injury. I don't think he goes 449 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 6: to another team as the starter of the team. You're 450 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 6: not going into the market place, even as poor of 451 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 6: a free agency class as this is this year, You're 452 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 6: not going into the marketplace as being sought after as 453 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,479 Speaker 6: a starting quarterback. I would I would assume that. 454 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 3: Again, I mean, where it's just me and you today, 455 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 3: maybe it's safe. 456 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 6: For me to assume and not get reprimanded for assuming 457 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 6: with my opinion that that would be what it is. 458 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 4: Okay, Now, I mean, what do you take? 459 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,239 Speaker 6: So do you think, I mean, well, are you are 460 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 6: you looking at him as a starter on a free him? 461 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:05,479 Speaker 4: No, definitely not. 462 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 3: But but if you're Geno Smith, I mean, you know, 463 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 3: maybe not the worst experience in the world. Just I mean, listen, 464 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 3: the team was awful. I mean, just a dreadful, dreadful 465 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 3: team to watch. But you know, he got a two year, 466 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 3: seventy five million dollar extension when he when he got there, 467 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 3: so the Raiders, you know, he made he made some 468 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 3: good money, as I mentioned, and he's going to be 469 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,479 Speaker 3: out there and and he's he's, at least to this 470 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 3: point in his career, a solid veteran backup who man 471 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 3: those guys in the NFL you can cash checks for years. 472 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 4: Sure, and he's not. 473 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 6: Let's be clear, he is not the focal point blame 474 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 6: of the Raiders and they're and they're lack of success. 475 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 4: No, it was a real group effort you gave. 476 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 6: You gave the examples of the coaching staffs and and 477 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 6: the people have come through. There's also a litany of 478 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 6: players that have also come through there that could have 479 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 6: made them better, a better team. Again, I say this 480 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 6: on our show. You listen to Pros and Cup of 481 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 6: Joe when you get the opportunity too. It's a little early, 482 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 6: but on the East Coast, it's right on time for 483 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 6: you getting into work. I always say, you cannot expect 484 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 6: talent to outperform. Dysfunction can happen. Some people say, like 485 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 6: some people have stated and given examples of Okay, this 486 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 6: was a dysfunctional team, they were able to win data. 487 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 6: I do not subscribe to the fact or idea that 488 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 6: talent can outperform dysfunction, and the Las Vegas Raiders are 489 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 6: one of the best examples of that statement. 490 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 4: It's why you never hear of a golfer who grew 491 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 4: up poor, you know what I mean? Really? 492 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, what golfer's growing up poor? You know they've been 493 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 3: in country clubs or whole life. 494 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 5: You know. 495 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 4: That much money, you know. I mean there's two different golfers. 496 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 3: There's those guys and then there's like me and my 497 00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 3: son who we just do mini punt. 498 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 4: So John, y'all aren't poor. So there's there's that. 499 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 6: Well, your your son isn't growing up poor? Well, I mean, 500 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 6: it depends, it depends. 501 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 4: It just made. It depends. You saw what I drove 502 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 4: in this morning with that's by choice. 503 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 3: The grills falling off, but that's by choice one side, 504 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 3: one side is falling apart much. 505 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 4: Your wife is driving, Your wife is driving. Well, there's 506 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 4: a lawnmore in the back right now. I can't bring 507 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 4: it out here. 508 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 3: So with that being said, still that's a solid joke 509 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 3: that the four people got. But with that being said, 510 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 3: there was an update to the Raiders Planet quarterback because 511 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 3: it clearly doesn't involve Geno Smith, who's going to be released. 512 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 3: As we mentioned, Diana Rossini of The Athletic reports that 513 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 3: if the Raiders continue to lean toward drafting Fernanda Mendoza 514 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 3: with the number one pick, in April's draft. Their preference 515 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 3: is to not start him immediately, look for Vegas to 516 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 3: bring in a veteran quarterback and free agency, and. 517 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 4: Who would that be that would be better than Geno Smith? 518 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 3: Well not probably cheaper than Geno Smith. I say, okay, 519 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 3: I don't. 520 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 4: Garoppolo, but maybe that might be a little too expensive. 521 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 4: I don't. I mean, look, they they can go down 522 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 4: this road that is. 523 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 3: I mean, look, I'm just bringing like I don't know, 524 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 3: I'm just throwing out that's what we're going. Well, think 525 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 3: about it this way. If they're saying we're not starting, 526 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:28,719 Speaker 3: I don't know. 527 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 4: It's too good looking. Well, I mean he's been there 528 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 4: before exactly. 529 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's probably got still too good looking, probably got 530 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 3: some tabs. 531 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 6: Maybe his habits are still bad habits. 532 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 4: You gotta gotta. 533 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 3: Develop, break bake, break bad habits developed. But if there's 534 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 3: a place to go to to kind of blend in, 535 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 3: that's the spot. If you're going to take a certain 536 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 3: somebody out there, because you're gonna lose anyway, but so 537 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 3: you might as well have other things to do while 538 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 3: you're there. So I wonder this if they're if their preferences, 539 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 3: we don't want Fernanda Mendoza starting right away, which is 540 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 3: kind of wild considering he'll be the. 541 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 4: Number one pick. 542 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 3: If that's the case, then this really is a full 543 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 3: blown tear down build up. This is a rebuild. So 544 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 3: if that's the case. 545 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 6: Am I am I missing something here? If you're going 546 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 6: to draft Fernando Mendoza number one overall. 547 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 4: Your team stinks. 548 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 6: You just got rid of the court of the quarterback, 549 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 6: you just got rid of the coaching staff, you just 550 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 6: added new ownership, you got uh the new ownership of 551 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 6: Juggernaut and Tom Brady his guy is running things personnel 552 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 6: wise there, Why would you not start your number one 553 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:46,719 Speaker 6: overall draft pick at quarterback day one? So what they're saying, 554 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 6: give me some give me some clarity on and so 555 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 6: why would your plan not You're preserving him for when 556 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 6: and so for what? And that's why my thought on 557 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 6: it goes, all right, if this is the case and 558 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 6: you're acknowledging this is a full blown rebuild, then save 559 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 6: that man's career. Draft somebody, draft somebody else. Let somebody 560 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 6: else know. 561 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 3: So what I'm saying is, if this is the case 562 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 3: and you're acknowledging this is a full blown rebuild, why 563 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 3: are you haggling over dealing Max Crosby, Like, what's what's 564 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 3: the point if if you were if you're taking this 565 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 3: approach and you're acknowledging value you can get. Yeah, and 566 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 3: maybe you don't get what you would get for Micah Parsons, 567 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 3: which you shouldn't because he's twenty nine and coming off 568 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 3: an injury. If it's a one and a mid round 569 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 3: pick and maybe a player somebody wants to part with, 570 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 3: take the deal and move on, man, Like, if this 571 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 3: is the approach, you're going to be awful. You're gonna 572 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 3: suck for a year at least. Again, If that's the case, 573 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 3: what's with this wall? 574 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 4: We really want? 575 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 3: I get, I get you want to play it out 576 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 3: in the media and kind of create a market for him. 577 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 3: But the idea that they would want to bring him 578 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 3: back and hope that he's a part of all this, 579 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 3: Why would. 580 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 4: Max Crosby want to be a part of all this? 581 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 3: Like, this is the quarterback's supposed to provide hope and 582 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 3: you're telling me we're gonna get a veteran and we're 583 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 3: gonna let him sit and watch as a number one pick. 584 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 6: Let's first start with what you initially said, and then 585 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 6: we'll move from there. You said this initiates or this, 586 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 6: this spells out rebuild. You have to lose the r 587 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 6: in this. There's no what are you rebuilding? You have 588 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 6: to build this this, this organization has been broken and 589 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 6: dysfunctional for so long. There's you're not rebuilding from anything. 590 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 6: You have to start over. Foundationally speaking, build your foundation, 591 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 6: build your your framework onto that foundation. Then finish building out. 592 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 6: You know the interior, the exterior. Are you going stucco? 593 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 6: Are you going brick? What are I don't know? 594 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 3: I mean they got there in Vegas. They build quick 595 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 3: out there. If they were the Palisades Raiders, no shot. 596 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 6: Well, I'll say this, if you build too quickly, it 597 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 6: might be broken. It might not be what you need 598 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 6: it to be. Sometimes it takes time. Now again now 599 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 6: moving to the next topic of it. It does take 600 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 6: time to build something. If you're building something, why would 601 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 6: I not put my number one overall draft pick in 602 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 6: there to get meaningful reps, to get meaningful experience as 603 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 6: the starting quarterback that we're hoping to be the franchise guy. 604 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 4: Please don't give me the excuse because we don't want 605 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 4: to ruin him. 606 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 6: Because the bottom line is is that is year two 607 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 6: going to be the perfect time to put him in? 608 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 6: Is year three the perfect time to put him in? 609 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 6: And give me the reasoning why you're going to magically 610 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,719 Speaker 6: get better in year one of his tenure of his 611 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 6: rookie contract. You're going to be that much better dramatically 612 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 6: with him on the bench in year two. And not 613 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 6: to mention, you're setting him up for all kinds of 614 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 6: screw knee and bust conversation. If your number one draft pick, 615 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 6: you're being drafted to play right away. Yes, if your 616 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 6: top draft pick, you're being drafted to play right away. 617 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 6: So if you're not putting him in, then you're saying 618 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 6: he's not good enough to play day one. If you're 619 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 6: saying he's not good enough to play day one, then 620 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 6: the media is going to jump all on that and 621 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 6: put that out there, and then the fan base are 622 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 6: going to jump on that, and it's going to be 623 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 6: all out there. 624 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 3: Let's go live to our I have a thought on 625 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 3: Fernanda Mendoza walking the streets of Las Vegas Insider Greg 626 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 3: two for the latest. 627 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 9: I do have a thought, and Lamar, you just nailed it, 628 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 9: because what was Troykman's record his rookie year in Dallas. 629 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 4: Don't remember? Oh one eleven? Wow? 630 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 9: You know what Peyton Manning's record was in Indy his 631 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 9: first year. 632 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 4: He struggled three and thirteen. Yeahmer So guess what. 633 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 9: The Raiders are probably going to be very similar. But 634 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,439 Speaker 9: if you have the guy that you want and he's 635 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,399 Speaker 9: the franchise quarterback, you take them in. They worry about 636 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 9: next year, next. 637 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 3: Year, that's correct, Kayleb Williams, like you do this like 638 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 3: that's and also if there's going to be growing pay, 639 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 3: I'd rather get him out of the way early and 640 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 3: and look, worst case scenario, he's not good, Yes, Like. 641 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 4: What are you going to waste two three years time 642 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 4: to find out? 643 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 3: You know? 644 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 6: And it might be you that ruined him, But so 645 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 6: what you still found out that, Yes. 646 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 4: We're still consistently ruining people's careers. Like moving on. 647 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 3: It's like our plan is we're gonna we're gonna draft 648 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,240 Speaker 3: Mendoza one. We're gonna sit him and let Charlie Whitehurst 649 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 3: start defining the black hole as a as a Raiders 650 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,720 Speaker 3: a D plus. I'd also say this for for somebody 651 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 3: who seems I don't I don't know if naive is 652 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 3: the right word. But to uh, the real world, he's 653 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 3: do you think so, I don't know that I would 654 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 3: want him with some extra time on his hands, cruising 655 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 3: the streets. I mean by your parents, by your parents, 656 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 3: and you're right VI your parents. 657 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 4: Uh, he comes across. 658 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 6: As as even more I don't know, I mean innocent 659 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 6: then then our boy from Florida. I would He's like, like, 660 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 6: who's our guy? Come on from Florida. We're never going 661 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 6: to lose ever again after this Tibo. Yeah, he comes across. 662 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 6: There's more innocent. It's Tim Diebo, a meathead. That's there's something. 663 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 6: There's something there. You don't get that something there with. 664 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 3: I think if you if you let him sit and 665 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 3: he's and he's not getting ready for the next game, 666 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 3: you know, next thing, you know, he's you know, with 667 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 3: carrot top and they've got a coffee table full of 668 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 3: you know, ajeax and they're trying to figure out what 669 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 3: to do with this stuff. 670 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 6: I just I don't know, man, you gotta play them. 671 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 6: If you're not, if you're not playing on playing you 672 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 6: got then don't draft him. 673 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 4: You gotta play them. Don't take that back. It is the. 674 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 3: You're on Fox Sports Radio LeVar Arrington, Jonas knox In 675 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 3: for Colin coming up next here though, it is another 676 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 3: edition of The Herdline News and it's yours right here 677 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 3: on FSR. 678 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays 679 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 2: and New Easter. 680 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 3: Not a em Pacific, it's a Herd here on Fox 681 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 3: Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas knox. 682 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,399 Speaker 4: In for Colin coming up top of next hour. 683 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 3: We're call it a little over ten minutes from now, 684 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,760 Speaker 3: a win win in the National Football League. A rarity, 685 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 3: but a win win for a couple of teams in 686 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 3: the league. We'll get into that for you here on 687 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,879 Speaker 3: FSR before we get to another edition of The Herd 688 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 3: Line News or a reminder to check out our brand 689 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 3: new YouTube channel for our show. It's called Two Pros 690 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 3: and a Cup of Joe. So just search two Pros 691 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 3: FSR on YouTube again. That's two Pros FSR. Be sure 692 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 3: to hit the subscribe button, don't stop there at the 693 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 3: thumbs up icon and comment away. Let us know who 694 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:39,959 Speaker 3: on the show you agree with, who you think is wrong. 695 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 3: But check out our new channel on YouTube again. Just 696 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 3: search two Pros FSR and subscribe. 697 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 5: No no, no, turn on the news. 698 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 2: This is the herd Line News. 699 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. Great two yeah, what let's get to it. Yeah. 700 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 9: Man, that's the first time I've ever gotten this standing 701 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 9: ovation for anything in my life. 702 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 2: How you doing, guy? 703 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 3: Hey? 704 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 9: Hey, guy, hey Hey, The WBC is underway. Guys, World 705 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 9: Baseball Classic. Jonas is fired up. I'm hoping LaVar is too. 706 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 9: But while many of. 707 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 4: Us were sleeping, why are you laughing? Why are you laughing? Well, 708 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 4: many of us were sleeping. 709 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,320 Speaker 9: Earlier today show, Hey, Otani showed he's already admits his 710 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 9: informed jump starting Japan's opening thirteen Nothing Mercy opening went 711 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 9: over Taiwan earlier today on Fox that you want to know? 712 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 4: Oh Tani? 713 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 8: Like up? 714 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 4: It is good Old Tony Oh, Corydon's. 715 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 7: Own fire. 716 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 4: Grand Slam for Otani. Listen. 717 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 9: I love the WBC Jonas like you, I think it's 718 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,919 Speaker 9: added another level of excitement for baseball. My only little 719 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 9: issue is worrying about guys getting hurt like Jeremy Pan 720 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 9: You got hurt bo his finger this week. For me, 721 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 9: that stinks. But but how are we feeling about it? 722 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 4: Well? You remember Edwin Diaz got hurt celebrating. 723 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, so there was exactly yeah, celebrating and the Mets 724 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,879 Speaker 3: lost them for the year, So yeah, I mean there's 725 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 3: there's always you run the risk of that. I also wonder, 726 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 3: you know how many of these players from like Chinese 727 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:14,959 Speaker 3: Taipei are you going to see on a little league 728 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 3: team come up here in. 729 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 6: Man, there was a classic that took place in the 730 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 6: Dominican Republic where Penn State had a dramatic comeback victory 731 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 6: over Indiana State. Mind you pay attention to baseball, no kid, 732 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:31,280 Speaker 6: I know you laugh. 733 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 4: Like a. 734 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 3: No. 735 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:35,760 Speaker 4: Let me tell you something. 736 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 3: You posted a picture on your social media of a 737 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 3: Penn State Rawlings baseball glove. 738 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 4: That was sweet, right, Yeah, that's right. 739 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,479 Speaker 6: Come on, man, all things sports, baby, especially Penn State. 740 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 4: All right, wrap it up with this, guys. What you got? 741 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 9: Lebron hit another big milestone last night and there lost 742 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 9: of the Nuggets. He surpassed Kareem Abdul Jabbar. When you 743 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,879 Speaker 9: get to page two on a book most Mayfield goals 744 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,760 Speaker 9: in NBA history. Here was jj redd on Lebron passing Kareem. 745 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 5: I'm a big Bruce Springsteen fan, and uh I would 746 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 5: probably say his his like early albums, really really get 747 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 5: me going. There's a there's a youthfulness to him, you know, 748 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:20,280 Speaker 5: an energy. You get to the end and you're like, holy, 749 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 5: this guy's greatest hits are like insane and Lebron's greatest hits. 750 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 5: I mean it just keeps adding to him. He just 751 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 5: plays and plays and plays, and the greatest hits he 752 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 5: just he's got to He's got a hell of a catalog. 753 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 9: So many records for Lebron, regular season, playoffs, all Star games, selections, 754 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:37,479 Speaker 9: things like that. 755 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 4: But it feels like when he was that, we're kind 756 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 4: that was that coherent? 757 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 6: Huh what are we going to just breeze over that? 758 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 4: Like me, what, No, I'm just saying, like, did we 759 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 4: not listen to what J. J Reddick just said? And 760 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 4: how it. 761 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 3: Absolutely may a lot of energy from jj Reddick. 762 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 9: There a lot of energy, Like he breaks so many records. 763 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 9: Are we just numbed his his greatness at. 764 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 3: This point people will not recognize and acknowledge how great 765 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 3: he is until he's long gone and he go, yeah, 766 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 3: like I was pretty good. I mean he was kind 767 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 3: of a pain in the ass to cover for a 768 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 3: lot of people, and and you know, he did things 769 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 3: differently and moved around and you know, maybe I got 770 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 3: players traded and whatnot. There's a lot that people can 771 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 3: criticize his durability and his production unmatched completely. 772 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 9: I'm still trying to understand what we may have to 773 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 9: bring this bite back to on his next hour. 774 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 3: So yeah, like I am, I've heard Bruce springsting songs. 775 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 6: I've even heard how he composed the music. Like I 776 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 6: just didn't understand, like from beginning to end. That's I 777 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 6: was confused. 778 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:46,240 Speaker 4: Huhm. 779 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 9: Sorry to apologize for anything on this. 780 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 4: Listen. 781 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 9: You're filling in, you're doing You're doing God's work today, 782 00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:57,919 Speaker 9: all right. 783 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 6: God's work springste god Man. Yeah, whatever the wrong with that? 784 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 6: That's j J Reddick. That is okay. 785 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,919 Speaker 3: He just I mean, he seems thrilled to be there, 786 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,839 Speaker 3: like he always seems like he's in a chipper mood 787 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 3: and uh and really really happy about having a deal with. 788 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 6: The chaos and Lebron James got it. I'm clean, I'm clear.