1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: We've got to go to. 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 2: On this edition of Magic Pod Squad, we catch up 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: with former Magic player, nine year NBA veteran Carlos Arroyo, 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: now the general manager of the Puerto Rican national basketball team. 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: Just one of the many things on his current resume. 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: He's in the music, he's been in movies, just an 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: unbelievable professional basketball career, and now he's building something special 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: with the Puerto Rican national team. Magic fans apport a 9 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: Department of Transportation reminds you that fans dorole, that fans 10 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: drive drunk. 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Lots to get into with Carlos Arroyo, 14 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: including how he got to Orlando, his conversation with Joe Dumars, 15 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: then the general manager of the Pistons that ultimately led 16 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: to Carlos arriving here in City beautiful, how much he 17 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: appreciated the Puerto Rican in the Latin community for completely 18 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: embracing him during his three years here in Central Florida, 19 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: something that he is eternally grateful for, and what he's 20 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: up to now with the Puerto Rican national team. Terrific 21 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: stuff with Carlos Arroyo on this edition of Magic Pod 22 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: Squad does his. 23 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 3: Fawns long enough to Orlando Magic. This is Cole Anthony, 24 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 3: This is Jennon Suggs, This is Paulo Man Carroll the 25 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 3: Orlando Magic and you're listening to the Pods Squad. Hey, welcome. 26 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 4: Eber went to another edition of Magic Pod Squad Dante Marcatelli, 27 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 4: George Galante, Jake Chapman, and Carlos Arroyo, former Magic player 28 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 4: now the general manager with Team Puerto Rico, doing. 29 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: A fantastic job building that team. Carlos played nine NBA 30 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: seasons from two thousand and one to twenty eleven. Three 31 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: here in Orlando from two thousand and five to two 32 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: thousand and eight, And Carlos, is this right? I knew 33 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: you had played, I knew you had a long career overseas, 34 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: but I think you stopped playing professionally about six months ago. 35 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 3: I have good depth. 36 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: I mean, nineteen ninety six to twenty nineteen, that's a heck, 37 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: that's a head giver career. 38 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 3: My friend. It's been a long journey, but you know, 39 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 3: a great one. I mean the Big three, you know 40 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 3: cows as part of my career as a professional. 41 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: Yes, well, it's always great to see a college. We 42 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: appreciate you doing this all over due to catch up, 43 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: but kind of let everybody know what you're up to now. 44 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: I know, between running team Puerto Rico, between following your 45 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: daughters around and their volleyball career, I mean, I don't 46 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: know I have time for anything else. 47 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been fortunate to you know, be able to 48 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 5: uh say on my feet as you can say, I mean, 49 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 5: and then do little things here and there. I like 50 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 5: to have the flexibility of not being at a job, 51 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 5: you know, and committed to a job undred percent. I 52 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 5: like to you know, be with the national team as 53 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 5: well as you know, following my girls around with volleyball 54 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 5: and my oldest other and she's already in college, and 55 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 5: I got the two little ones at the house, and 56 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 5: you know, you know, in the national team itself. 57 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 3: It's it's a it's. 58 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 5: A twenty four seven jobs throughout the year, you know, 59 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 5: with qualifiers that we have with FEBA and recruiting and. 60 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 3: All that stuff. 61 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 5: So you know, I try to stay pretty busy. I've 62 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 5: done music here and there, and I was able to 63 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 5: you know, be a part of a movie you know 64 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 5: that came with the music. So doors, doors, those doors 65 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 5: open for me. I just try to take advantage of, 66 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 5: you know, the things that I did when I was 67 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 5: playing and the doors that are opening now. 68 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 3: And I've been blessed to be honest with you guys. 69 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: He's being modest. He's being modest. He says music here 70 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: and there. He's a music sensation. 71 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 6: With saying we can't gloss over and like like we 72 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 6: can't get into that a little bit now, we can't 73 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 6: just gloss over the music part of this. 74 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 3: I mean it was always a passion of mine. 75 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 5: You know, I never had the time because I was 76 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 5: always traveling when I was in the league and when 77 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 5: I was in Europe. So and you know his producing 78 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 5: music takes a long time. You know, you have to 79 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 5: be in the studio for you know, so many hours. 80 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I had kids at home and 81 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 5: I had to go to my wife. 82 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 3: Arm the other and you know, when are you coming on? 83 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 3: Why are you going to retired? You should be you know, 84 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 3: so you go through all those ups and downs of 85 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 3: you know, being retired and wanting finding yourself, you know, 86 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 3: you know, seeing what what fits better, uh, once you're 87 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 3: done playing. But you know, for the most part, you know, 88 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: my family supports everything I do. So it's been a blessing. 89 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 6: Now do they get to come on, like because we 90 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 6: were doing this podcast right now and you're you're in 91 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 6: Chile right now. Yeah, Like, do they do they get 92 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 6: to come on some of these excursions with you? I mean, 93 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:35,239 Speaker 6: you're you're riding all over the world. Still not really, Yeah, 94 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 6: we were, you know, we had the World Cup this summer. 95 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 6: We were in Philippines, and we had all those exhibition 96 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 6: games before the World Cup leading to the World Cup. 97 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 6: So we wait to Italy, survey and all these places. 98 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 3: But not really. You know, my girls they do travel 99 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 3: well in the summer and throughout the year. They do 100 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 3: the clubs. 101 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 5: You know, they have the club seasons and you know, 102 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 5: now I'm o oldest season and Dane Hyland she got 103 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 5: a scholarship to play volleyball with it. So she's over 104 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 5: there going through her freshman year. And my two little 105 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 5: ones are in school where they have their own activity. 106 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 5: So my wife is always you know, she's the one, 107 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 5: you know, she's ober drive at the house when I'm 108 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 5: not there so but you know, I like, you know, 109 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 5: I love taking my kids to school. You know, I 110 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 5: loved that part of being a father as well. You know, 111 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 5: I miss so much when I was playing and traveling. 112 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 5: You know, I'm just trying to catch up with those 113 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 5: times that I missed. 114 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 7: Carols, What appealed to you about producing music when you 115 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 7: got started? How how did it sort of take you 116 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 7: away from from the grind of being a pro basketball player. 117 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 5: You know what pushed me to to do music was 118 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 5: you know, at the time I retired, the music business 119 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 5: was just growing so fast, especially the reggae tall and 120 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 5: Latin urban music. And you know, I decided, I said, 121 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 5: you know what, I have a great relationship with all 122 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 5: these artists. Why do I, you know, try to find 123 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 5: a label that can support the vision that I have 124 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 5: with the project that I wanted. 125 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 3: To do and and you know, maybe I can make 126 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 3: some money. And it went like that. It wasn't easy, But. 127 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 5: I thank God for basketball every day because of the 128 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 5: relationship that I build, because of the respect that I 129 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 5: got for the years that I played in the national 130 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 5: team and then the NBA. You know a lot of 131 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 5: those guys, you know, we build religions when I'm friends 132 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 5: with most of these guys. So but it wasn't easy, 133 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 5: you know that the music industry, you know, especially when 134 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 5: you're trying to do a collapse, you have to be 135 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 5: after guys constantly, you know, to jump on the track 136 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 5: or you know, find time to do a video or 137 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 5: you know, because their schedules are so so different than 138 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 5: you know, athletes, and they don't have no time discipline 139 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 5: when it comes to going to studio. You know, they 140 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 5: might tell, you know, I'll be there at eight and 141 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 5: they show up at twelve. 142 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. But you one of the features. 143 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 3: So you have to kind of like you have to 144 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 3: suck it up and you know, and grind. 145 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: George doesn't feel bad because he's been chasing around NBA 146 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: players for twenty five years, so he knows exactly what 147 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: you're talking. 148 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 8: Right, I do not feel bad now, you know about 149 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 8: to sit around and wait part of this, right, I 150 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 8: always like to tell each other it's like, oh, we 151 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 8: spent a lot of times sitting around and waiting, you know. 152 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 5: Far athletes, athletes as you know, George and Dante as 153 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 5: you know. You know, if we have practice at ten, 154 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 5: we probably there as nine true. 155 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: I see what I'm saying. Actually, you know, and artists 156 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 3: they are not like that. They might not show up. 157 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 3: They might not show up and I'll tell you why 158 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 3: they didn't show up. You know. So their schedule is 159 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 3: just very is it, you know, mixed? 160 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,239 Speaker 1: Is it different on a movie set? Did you enjoy 161 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: that experience? I imagine those things have to happen like clockwork. 162 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: When you set up to shoot a movie that was great. 163 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 5: Uh, you know, that was one of those experiences where 164 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 5: you know, you try to you're in a situation where 165 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 5: you've never been you know music. Yeah, I've been doing 166 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 5: music since Ide with a kid, you know, and you know, 167 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 5: with my friends back home in Puerto Rico. 168 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 3: But you know, being at a. 169 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 5: Movie set, you know, everything is by the clock, and 170 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 5: everything is very disciplined structure, you know, you know, call 171 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 5: up at five in the morning, you have somebody there 172 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 5: for thirty already waiting on you to get, you know, 173 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 5: to the studio that can do makeup and all that stuff. 174 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 3: And or they say, you know, action is action, you know, 175 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 3: whatever time they tell you. It's more structure than the 176 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 3: music business. 177 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: I want to get into this car. We know it 178 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: because We had you here for three years, and it 179 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: was a fun three years here in Central Florida. It 180 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: was fun for us to get to know you, and 181 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: I know it was fun for the fans and a 182 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: lot of Puerto Rican fans here in Central Florida, so 183 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: I know they'd love to have you here, and I 184 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: know you enjoyed your time here as well. But let 185 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: everybody know your basketball journey. Ultimately you get to the NBA, 186 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: but your story and to make it, and you know, 187 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: to be an NBA player to have the career you 188 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: had is fascinating and it's it's a credit to the 189 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: hard work that you put in. 190 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you so much. 191 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 5: I think most of Latino's not my journey, but you 192 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 5: know I was one to raise in Puerto Rico turn 193 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 5: pro when I was sixteen. 194 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 3: My father wanted me to turn pro when I was sixteen. 195 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,719 Speaker 5: Back then, you can still play in your college and 196 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 5: you know, I could still play in the NCAA and 197 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 5: go back home and make some money and you know, 198 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 5: be a pro and be a part of Division one basketball, 199 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 5: which it was my dream. 200 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 3: That wasn't drafted. 201 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 5: You know, I had pretty solid senior year and I 202 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 5: got invited to some vetcams. We decided to go with 203 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 5: the Toronto Raptors. That opened the doors for me that 204 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 5: first year. So I went to vetcamp them having fifteen 205 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 5: guarantee contracts, which I told my agent, I don't know 206 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 5: what I'm doing here, because you know, there's no way 207 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 5: I can make a team. I did well enough for 208 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 5: them to open a spot for me and give me 209 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 5: a non guaranteed contract. So I was with them to 210 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 5: like half of the season, and then I went to 211 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 5: Spain that first year, played a month there, and finished 212 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 5: the season with Denver. They got me a ten day 213 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 5: card again. After that, I signed with Utah and then 214 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 5: I was I think from Utah, I went to Detroit 215 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 5: and then and then that's where I ended up in Orlando. 216 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 5: But I mean, my journey's been one of you know, 217 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 5: of those journeys that you'd say, you know, where's even 218 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 5: gonna end up next? But I really learned that appreciated 219 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 5: every coach that I had, every teammate that I had. 220 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 3: I played with some great players. I was fortunate enough 221 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: when I was in a land. 222 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 5: I know, my first year with Grant you know, and 223 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 5: Stakesy Argument and all those guys, you know, uh, the 224 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 5: white and his speak. 225 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 3: So I was blessed. I was blessed my whole career. 226 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 5: I learned a lot from every organization that I was 227 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 5: a part of, and even when I went to Europe. 228 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 5: It was a moment where in Europe where I was like, 229 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 5: can I do this because it's just different culture wise. 230 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 5: You know, it hits you when you go to Europe. 231 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 5: It's not for everyone. So I had to adapt. Even 232 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 5: though I was playing in the. 233 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 3: National team and I had just FHEBA rules and the 234 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 3: way they played. It was totally different from the NBA. 235 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 5: But I playing with the national team and helped me 236 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 5: at that better. But I still had to get adjusted 237 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 5: with you know, the food and the language and the culture. 238 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 5: It was just, you know, it was just difficult times. 239 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 9: You know. 240 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 3: I was there by myself most of the times. My family, 241 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 3: you know, went with me. 242 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 5: My first year in Europe was in Israel, so I 243 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 5: told my wife that's when I had my first daughter, 244 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 5: and I told him I'm going to go first to 245 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 5: see how it is and everything gets settled, and then 246 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 5: I'll bring you guys over the same when I went 247 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 5: went to Turkey, and my last year was with the 248 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 5: Barcelona in Spain. But you know, the treatment and the 249 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 5: care that you know they gave me was was amazing, 250 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 5: was first class at all times. 251 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 3: You know, I always felt that I was in a 252 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 3: situation where I was going to be successful and and 253 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 3: I have an opportunity to play my game, which I missed. 254 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 3: You know, I feel like one of the years in 255 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 3: the NBA that I really felt like I was playing 256 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 3: my game and I was really happy on getting ready 257 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 3: for games and traveling, and so was with Orlando. To 258 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 3: be honest with you, you know, I got to play minutes. Uh. 259 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 5: Brian gave me an opportunity from from the start when 260 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 5: I got to to Orlando, and you know, and I 261 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 5: was able to you know, showcase Uh you know part 262 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 5: of my game that I was unable to showcase. 263 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: When I was with the other teams. Aside from you know, 264 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 3: I felt like I was in Puerto Rico when I played. 265 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 3: And as you guys remember this is all of flags. 266 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 3: It was. It was just an amazing experience, you know. Uh. 267 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 5: And I felt that every time I went to Orlando 268 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 5: with the teams, you know, every time I quote, you know, 269 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 5: I felt like I was a Puerto Rico people coming 270 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 5: and supporting you know that, you guys know the Porto 271 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 5: Rican community and Orland Lose amazing and growing. So you know, 272 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 5: my journey's been a special one and I truly miss it. 273 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 5: Uh sometimes I miss it. I don't miss the grind 274 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 5: of it, you know, waking up and training and all 275 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 5: that stuff. But I missed the locker room, you know, 276 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 5: and the group people I met throughout my journey and 277 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 5: basketball in general. Just giving me a light that I 278 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 5: can't complain and truly blessed. 279 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: That's awesome. 280 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 3: Carlos, Carlos. 281 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 6: Before we get in, they saw some of your Orlando 282 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 6: teamates because you were here right when some of those 283 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 6: guys were just starting to pick you know, the Dwights 284 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 6: and the Jamiers. You played with John Stockton for the 285 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 6: last year of his career, last two years of his career. 286 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 6: But what was it like playing with the guy? I mean, 287 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 6: because I went back and looked just to see, Oh, 288 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 6: let me see how many games he played in his 289 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 6: John Stockton and he started all eighty two of late 290 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 6: thirty one minutes. 291 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 3: The last year while you were there. 292 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 6: I mean, what was it like to I mean, that 293 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 6: was one of your first stops in the NBA ended 294 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 6: up being with one of the arguably greatest point guards 295 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 6: ever to play it in. 296 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 3: You know, and you know it was funny. John was 297 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 3: the starter and the backup was Mark Mark Jackson, So 298 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 3: I was behind the number one and number two assist 299 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 3: leaders in the history of the game. So that he's hand. 300 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 5: You know, that year for me was a clinic the 301 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 5: whole year. You know, it's just watching them, how they 302 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 5: prepare for games, how they saw the game. I was 303 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 5: asking a lot of questions, but that truly helped my 304 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 5: game mature and a professional level. But John was very quiet, 305 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 5: you know, I was just I would just watch them, 306 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 5: and you know, at the times I was asking him 307 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 5: questions why he saw pick and roll situations, how to 308 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 5: manage you know, the time when he was in the game, 309 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 5: when the game was on the line, fourth quarters, you know, 310 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 5: decision making and stuff like that. It was just a 311 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 5: true master man. 312 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 3: He was. It is my and then it doesn't matter. 313 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 3: You could never pressure it. It's like kind of like 314 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 3: watching you got You can have a guy brush him 315 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 3: ninety feet, but he's gotta go to his own speed, 316 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 3: you know. So that's what I like about John and 317 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 3: every drill. 318 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 5: You know, he took it personal. If we were running seventeens, 319 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 5: he will make sure he was the first one, you know, 320 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 5: just to prove that he's not old. But he was 321 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 5: a tube professional man. 322 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 3: I can honestly say I was a last substitution. 323 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 5: For John Stopton, you know, and Sacramento. I was a 324 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 5: big guy that brought about axcepting out coach flow. So 325 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 5: you know, I asked me this t a wow that 326 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 5: he came out. I think it was the playoffs in Sacramento, 327 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 5: But that moment in itself I would take with me 328 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 5: forever because you know, me going in there and give 329 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 5: him high five and you know, give him kind of 330 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 5: like a little earlier after he walked out the last 331 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 5: time he walked out of the court, that was a 332 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 5: truly special moment for me. 333 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: Well, the guy had replaced the other guy that replaced George. 334 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: That's an answer to a trivia question. After nineteen years 335 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: of starting point guard, the guy that replaced him as 336 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: the starting point guard the next year was this man, 337 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: Carlos the Royal. Right, and and maybe probably the best 338 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: statistical year of your NBA career that that year starting 339 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: in Utah. 340 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 5: Absolutely absolutely, I remember, you know, I had a lot 341 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 5: of pressure from from the media back. 342 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 3: Then because they were you know, are you're the. 343 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 5: Next one, You're ready to you know, take on, you know, 344 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 5: that responsibility. And I said, look, I'm only here to 345 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 5: take advantage of the opportunity, just like John did when 346 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 5: he was given that opportunity. 347 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 3: So, but you know, it's a lot of pressure, you know. 348 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 5: I can honestly say that, you know, mentally, I was 349 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 5: trying to prepare myself to not mess it up. 350 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 3: And but I had a structure team, you know, with 351 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 3: Jerry Swam. You know, he was very determined with doing 352 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 3: things right, very disciplined with his structure and how he 353 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 3: wanted us to play. And as you guys know, you know, 354 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 3: Jerry doesn't mess around, you know, and he's the same 355 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 3: at practice I shoot around in games. You know, he's 356 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 3: the same way. So and and it helped my game 357 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 3: to be honest withy, I don't, you know, just stay 358 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 3: in line with what I needed to do as a 359 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 3: point guard and as a young point guard too, trying 360 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 3: to find myself. I knew that you did that first 361 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 3: year that he gave me the ball, I said, you know, 362 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 3: run the team. I knew that, you know, I needed 363 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 3: to be focused and my best season. 364 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 7: So if that was your best year, your second best year, 365 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 7: I would think statistically was at six oh seven season 366 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 7: here you mentioned some of your teammates. That was my 367 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 7: intern year, so quick personel story. I had to hold. 368 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 7: I was the radio intern. I had to hold the 369 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 7: my gap to practice after in the newt rounds. And 370 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 7: you guys were such a great group. I don't know 371 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 7: if I'm still doing this all these years later if 372 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 7: not for people like you, Jamiir, Tony Batigue, he I'm dueling, 373 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 7: and of course grand Hill. He's the first NBA player 374 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 7: who ever called me my name back to me, which 375 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 7: I will never forget. Can you just talk about that 376 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 7: group a little bit and and what you learned from 377 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 7: guys like Jamir and specifically Grant, just as far as 378 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 7: being a teammate now the leadership lessons that I'm sure 379 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 7: you brought into heading up the Puerto Rican national team. 380 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 3: You know, speaking of our Grant, I saw him and 381 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 3: uh uh you were able to set up a game 382 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 3: with UFA and Vegas this summer, so I saw him there. 383 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 3: You know, he's part of the us USA basketball now 384 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 3: and it was great. CM. He was always just a 385 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 3: great leader. Always very positive, very soft spoken all the time. 386 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 2: You know. 387 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 3: Uh, he knew it'll calm you down at moments of adversity, 388 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 3: which I like. But it was just a fun group. 389 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 5: I think, you know, Dwight in itself, he kept him 390 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 5: and Jamie, he kept the group always laughing and doing little. 391 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 3: Jokes here today, you know how they were. 392 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 5: Kean was kind of like a jokes too, but he 393 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 5: was serious when we needed to be serious. 394 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 3: But t was our o G. You know, Stacey Augman 395 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 3: was our o G. 396 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 5: So we had a great balance on that team, you know. Uh, 397 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 5: and me coming in, I was just trying to fit in. 398 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 5: I think when I came in, I played one game 399 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 5: with see Press. That was the only game I think 400 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 5: it was in Cleveland that. 401 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 3: We play together. And then I think orlanda kind of 402 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 3: a wake them or something. 403 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 8: Uh. 404 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 3: But I know I had to. 405 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 5: I know we were trying to fight, you know, we 406 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 5: were finally trying to you know, stay afloat and trying 407 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 5: to make the playoffs. 408 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 3: That we missed a couple. 409 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 5: Of games that year, but we had we had to 410 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 5: run that uh that last part of the year. 411 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 3: Uh. 412 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 5: But I enjoyed it. I was just happy to be 413 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 5: in Orlando. To be honest with you, Uh, well, there 414 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 5: was rumors about me being traded. 415 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 3: You know. 416 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 5: I met right away with Joe Dumars and Detroit and 417 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 5: I told him, look, I don't want to leave, but 418 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 5: if if you're going to trade me anywhere, please. 419 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 3: Let it be on that Is that right? 420 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: Is that right? 421 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 3: You asked for this? Yeah? Cool? Oh yes, yeah, there 422 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 3: was too. There were rumors because remember dark old Minischik. 423 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 5: Yes, he wasn't he wasn't happy you know, you know 424 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,239 Speaker 5: in Detroit, and they weren't happy with him either, so 425 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 5: they were trying to move them. And uh, there was 426 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 5: a period of like two weeks where it was you know, strongly, 427 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 5: you know, there was they were considering trading him, and 428 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 5: and there was rumors that I was part of that 429 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 5: past page with with darkle so and I had a 430 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 5: great relationship with Joe, and I said, Joe, you know, uh, 431 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 5: can we talk for a second. 432 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 3: So we went to his office. I said, look, because 433 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 3: I didn't want it to sound like I wanted to leave, 434 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 3: you know, I had or Detroit was a great group too, 435 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 3: you know, and we had just down to the finalist 436 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 3: too the year before. And I told him there's a 437 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 3: lot of rumors. I don't want to leave, but and 438 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 3: I hear that I'm being you know, chopped around with 439 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 3: with Darko. I said, all I asked is that if 440 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 3: you trade me, please trade me to a life. I 441 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 3: want to be close to home. I feel like I'm 442 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 3: home there. You know, oh the Flags, this is that community. 443 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 3: And he took his glasses off and his right. I remember, 444 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 3: it's like yesterday. He took an answers. He answered right away. 445 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 3: So he's quiet. He looks at me and he said, 446 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 3: and he said look at me. I'm like, okay, And 447 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 3: he's like, I give me my word. If you're not 448 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 3: here with me, you're gonna be in Orlando. Is that 449 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 3: is that if that deal goes through. 450 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 5: I was like okay, And then uh, I think we 451 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 5: went to we went to Ohsta weekend. 452 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 3: That's when we got treated. Remember and uh he called 453 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 3: me and so Carlos, I always spoke a week ago. 454 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 3: Fortunately had to make the trade. Blah blah blah. But 455 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 3: I give you my word, you're going with all lad 456 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 3: So I was kind of like, so as soon as 457 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 3: I hung up, I started like I was scaring and 458 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 3: out until my wife we going on that so were 459 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 3: we were truly excited. Man, it was an opportunity that 460 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 3: I really. 461 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,239 Speaker 5: Wanted to to be a part of that. You know, 462 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 5: that club and Orland that's always been you know home 463 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 5: for me. You know, we go there to take the 464 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 5: kitchen Didney. 465 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 3: It's two hours from the I mean four hours from 466 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 3: the house. Uh. So you know, I felt like I 467 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 3: could fit in it. And you know with the guys 468 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 3: and and uh the teams that the team that you 469 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 3: guys had back then, so and I could welcome to 470 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 3: uh you know, we had a mix up open veterans 471 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 3: and young guys as well. So I felt comfortable right away. 472 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: I think was there too, Yeah, yes he was. He 473 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: came here your last year. He had Rashard, you had Turkey, 474 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: had Dwight Jamire. I mean you had the. 475 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 3: Start of Shaun Stevens. Stevens. Yes he was, yes, he was, Yes, 476 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 3: he was. He was fun. 477 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: Yeah he was you know he keep you inddressed. Uh 478 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: but what George, we played together, that's right. You There 479 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: was a lot asked of Carlos with that because there 480 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: was a lot of there was a lot of there's 481 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: a big Puerto Rican community here which fully embraced you, 482 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, but you made time. I always marveled 483 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: at that because you could have filled your entire day 484 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: with with with go and visit this person, visit this 485 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: person in this autograph. But he did it, didn't he He 486 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: he wanted to be a part of that cause you 487 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: I always marvel at how much you embraced that part 488 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 1: of it, Carlos, with that with that community, I was. 489 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 3: I was just grateful. 490 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 5: I was grateful for the love and I was thank 491 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 5: for for people coming, you know, night in and night out, 492 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 5: supported and brought the flags out. You know, it was 493 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 5: just we started having Latin night. 494 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys had that for. 495 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: We did not. 496 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 5: I think Joey was a big part of that as well, 497 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 5: uh through n Carlos Velis too. 498 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 3: They were a great group. 499 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 5: You guys had up a great group that you know, 500 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 5: really supported me and make sure that I was out 501 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 5: there in the community showing love too. And I think 502 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 5: that was a great part of uh, of that energy 503 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 5: that that I brought when I went to to you know, 504 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 5: to Orlando, because of the community that was behind you know, 505 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 5: our team. So I was just grateful, man, I was, 506 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 5: I was, uh in a place where I always wanted 507 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 5: to be, so you know. 508 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 3: And I expected that and it happened and it came through. 509 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 3: So I was just I wasn't all with everything. 510 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 6: Well, I re level when we got when we traded 511 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 6: for Carlos, we had you know, we I knew we 512 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 6: had a big Latin community in central Florida, but you know, 513 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 6: it didn't really touch us until we got VI you 514 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 6: and I remember, I remember immediately when the trade came, 515 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 6: Linda Lamb and Gonzalez was on our staff and Joey Cologne, 516 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,959 Speaker 6: and they immediately came to Joel and Tricia and I 517 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 6: and just said listen, like this is going to open 518 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 6: up the whole new world for you guys. We're kind 519 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 6: of we're kind of looking at her and like, come on, like. 520 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 9: You can't be like we we we had Shaquille and 521 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 9: Neo Penny like we're good, like yeah, and then it 522 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 9: but it was it was like this whole and even 523 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 9: now we have a we have a Hispanic media list 524 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 9: that we now we still use to this day to 525 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 9: twenty twenty three that. 526 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 3: We didn't have before. 527 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 6: We really didn't And I kind of trace it all 528 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 6: back to you coming close to to to Orlando. 529 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 3: That was beautiful, man, that was beautiful. 530 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 5: I mean, I was in shock, but I was expecting 531 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 5: people to support our team. But I was in shock 532 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 5: with the magnitude of the energy of everybody. Just We're 533 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 5: having Regguatory. 534 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 3: Knights concerts right after the game. Yeah, And it was 535 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 3: not like there was like one hundred people two hundred. 536 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 3: It was like five thousand people, aren't there? Oh, we 537 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 3: were producing postgame radio shows during those concerts. I'm not spot. 538 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: You're exactly right. You mentioned Brian Hill. Brian Hill was 539 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: a big fan of yours. He was a big fan 540 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: of Darko's too. It was something special with that group. 541 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: But I know Darko struggled in Detroit and and and 542 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: you know, I know he wasn't as happy being there. 543 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: But but he was a talented individual. Carlos Darko was 544 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: a guy that he accepted his role here. He did 545 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: what Brian asked of him, and you know, blocking shots, 546 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 1: protecting the rim. What do you remember? But it was 547 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: a hard The NBA life was hard on Darko. Well, 548 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: what what is your take on on his on his 549 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: NBA portion of his journey. 550 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 3: I think he was very misunderstood, right, you know, Darko 551 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 3: was extremely talented, could task you know, the fat and 552 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 3: he could score, and he could do anything, you know, 553 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 3: he wanted to. And at the same time, I don't 554 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 3: know if he was as passionate for the game as 555 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 3: other guys. So it kind of made me rough the 556 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 3: league the wrong way because it ain't show it, you know. 557 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 3: But he loved basketball, but he was just not pas 558 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 3: shouldn't like to go out and get extra you know, 559 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 3: training and you know, get to a city and find 560 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 3: a high school gym and go shoot. You know. He 561 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 3: wasn't like that. He wasn't as dedicated as as you 562 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 3: should be when you're in the NBA, and that might 563 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 3: have were up guys and teams the wrong way. And 564 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 3: at times it showed in the games at times you 565 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 3: see him playing and he was just this interest. He 566 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 3: looked dis interest. But I think that was part of 567 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 3: his personality as well. He was just like that. He 568 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 3: was European. He come from a place where, you know, 569 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 3: his family probably had to go through war situations in 570 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 3: the past and tough situations, you know, and you know, 571 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 3: going into a culture where everybody's dedicated and loved and 572 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 3: very passionate about the game, it's just different. You know, 573 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 3: cultural wives. He was just built different, you know, but 574 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 3: he was very missing. I loved dark Girl, you know, 575 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 3: I love dark Girl, you know. And and guys on 576 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 3: the team could tell you, you know, we loved dark He 577 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 3: was funny and all. Wait, ye feel overwhelming. 578 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 7: The the amount of the amount of pressure on you 579 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 7: from the Puerto Rican community just kind of and and 580 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 7: even still, I mean, you are you're mister Puerto Rican 581 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 7: basketball essentially, and there are a lot of people who 582 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 7: kind of tie tie their hopes to you. 583 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 3: Is it Does it ever make you sort of want 584 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 3: to hide for a day and get a breather? Yeah? 585 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: And if you had to pay for a meal since 586 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 1: you beat Team USA and O four and the Olympics, 587 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: have you have you had to have you had to 588 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: pay for anything into Rico? 589 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes I do. I mean I've got share 590 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 3: with my my premio here and there. You know. But no, 591 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 3: I'm learning young. You know that. You know I embraced it. 592 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 3: I embraced it. 593 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 5: You know my parents, you know, they they taught me 594 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 5: from a young age. You know, I was national team 595 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 5: was a religion. 596 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 3: You know a lot of what growing up. You know, 597 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 3: I watched the national. 598 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 5: Team since I was a young kid and it was 599 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 5: always a dream of mind to be a part of 600 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 5: that team. But you know, I think, uh, you know, 601 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 5: once I made it to the league, you know, I 602 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 5: started getting you know, recognition, and then once that those 603 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 5: two thousand and four Olympics, you know, after that, just 604 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 5: I think my life changed completely from a from a 605 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 5: marketing standpoint, you know, and and try to move my 606 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 5: name with brands in Puerto Rico and internationally that I 607 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 5: could you know, benefit. 608 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 3: From and grow and grow my brand. You know, it 609 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 3: helped me a lot. But after those two thousand and 610 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 3: four Olympics, you know, and then you know, doing well 611 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 3: in the NBA helped my name as well to be 612 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 3: able to open doors and internationally with the national team 613 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 3: open the doors for me in Europe as well. So 614 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 3: I've always embraced that, the love and the uh it's 615 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 3: a huge responsibility obviously, you know, you have to kind 616 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 3: of like have your your mirror plan. 617 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 5: You know, You've always I'm always kind of inspiring the 618 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 5: next generation where I was when I was a player 619 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 5: and now as and toory general manager for the national 620 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 5: team and instructuring this the federation moving forward for years 621 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 5: to come. You know, I always constantly have to deal 622 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 5: with new players coming in and now, recruiting and staying 623 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 5: in touch with the guys that are a part of 624 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 5: the national team now and just try to build a 625 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 5: structured team and a culture within our federation, federation where 626 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 5: guys that are were not born and raised in Puerto 627 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 5: Rico can understand what it means to represent Puerto Rico 628 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 5: and still feel proud of what you were in the uniform. 629 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 5: So uh, but you know, I've embraced it since I 630 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 5: was a kid, and I learned to end. I've grown 631 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 5: understanding the business part of it and then the human 632 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 5: part of it, which is the love from the community 633 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 5: and the people. Every time they see and they want 634 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:47,719 Speaker 5: to take a picture, they want you to, you know, 635 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 5: speak about it all the years in the NBA and 636 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 5: what it means to represent Puerto Rico here and there. 637 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 3: Uh, I've learned how to maneuver. I've always had a 638 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,239 Speaker 3: good solid team around me, you know, you know, uh, 639 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 3: my family and my pr people that keep me grounded 640 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 3: as well, I think, which I think is very important. 641 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 5: So I've never thought that I'm bigger than the national 642 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 5: team or bigger than Puerto Rico. Bigger than you know, 643 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 5: always kind of like you know, moving. So I'm grateful 644 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 5: for the opportunity that the game gave me and just 645 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 5: try to embrace it and carry myself with respect as 646 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 5: much as I can. 647 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 6: I know we're getting close to the end here, but 648 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 6: by the time this drops, we're going to be in 649 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 6: Mexico City playing against the Hawks. And we're very excited 650 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 6: because you're going to be there. Is it What does 651 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 6: it mean? You know, as as an international kid, what 652 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 6: does it mean to see have an NBA game in 653 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 6: a place like Mexico City or or somewhere abroad. 654 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 3: Man, I wish you were cold to play the Puerto 655 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 3: Rico man. I like that happened me too. I know 656 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 3: we were able to carry on a concert at the game. 657 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 3: That we can't bring a game to Puerto Rico, you. 658 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,479 Speaker 1: Know against the Pelicans. You don't have magic Pelicans with 659 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 1: Jose Alvarado. 660 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 3: And Porto, you know, we can't make that happen. Say 661 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 3: it's one of the guys that ever recoup a They 662 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 3: saw our national team as well, so hopefully we get 663 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 3: made something happen. Uh, But I'm excited. I think globally 664 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 3: the game is growing continues to grow. 665 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 5: And you know at Lanta America, you know, Hispanics are 666 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 5: very passionate about the game. Uh, just and beautiful to see, 667 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 5: you know, especially Orlando, you know, being that it's in 668 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 5: a in. 669 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 3: A in a state where you know it's a Hispanic community. 670 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 5: I think having that game in Mexico will help a lot, 671 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 5: will continue to build, uh, the NBA brand worldwide, and 672 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 5: and I just think it's great, you know, to have 673 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 5: those types of games in other countries. 674 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 3: Are you doing the postgame concert, Carlos? At least? How 675 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 3: about a good answer. What are you telling hey, Carlos? 676 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 3: Last thing? 677 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: You know as well as we're getting ready for this, 678 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: we're looking back on your career and you're seeing Vince Carter, 679 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: roll on, John Stockton, Dwight Howard, Mark Jackson. Right, you 680 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: look at it, people aren't fortunate enough to play with 681 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: that caliber player throughout their entire career. And also success. 682 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: You went to an NBA finals, conference finals, You've won 683 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: championships overseas. When you think about all of that interaction, right, 684 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: and all the greats that you've played with, all the 685 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: success that you've had, how does that help you in 686 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: your role? 687 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 3: Now? 688 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: What are some of the biggest takeaways that you have 689 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: from that experience, because he can. 690 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 6: Walk into a meeting and take his resume and just 691 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 6: drop it on his ton and just go, damn, let go. 692 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 3: Let's here's the picture. Here's a picture of me supping 693 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 3: out on John Stockton for the last time. 694 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, why don't you here's It takes two hours to 695 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: read my resume and I'll be back. 696 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, man, I can't complaint. I've been extremely blessed 697 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 3: and grateful for you know, I continue to say that 698 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 3: because as you mentioned, you know, my last two years 699 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 3: was in my last year the NBA and Boston where 700 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 3: I had Shack and I have you know, uh Paul 701 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 3: and KG and Ray Allen, right Miami was with those guys. 702 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 3: So I think the. 703 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 10: Game has really shown me to be professional at all times, 704 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 10: be humble with every everyone you meet, the new generation, 705 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 10: be a mentor, you know, and uh. 706 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 5: With everything that I've learned outside of the of the 707 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,239 Speaker 5: the court and on the court, you know, I think 708 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 5: that's helped me grow with to see the game from 709 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 5: a different perspective, from a business perspective as well, and 710 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 5: you know, it's just has opened the doors for me 711 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 5: worldwide at which my son would love and be as 712 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 5: fascionate as I was when I was a kid playing 713 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 5: back when he really hates it, you know, yeah, and 714 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 5: you know and you know, so that he can actually 715 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 5: live and go through the experiences that I went through, 716 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 5: as you know, as a basketball player loving this game. 717 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 5: But I think overall everything from it, from different aspects 718 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 5: of the game, I've learned and I still appreciate the 719 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 5: life that I have now being retired. 720 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 3: You know, I can look back and say, look, I 721 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 3: did this that. Wow, I can't. I can't believe it. 722 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 3: You know, I'm just truly honored and blessed. We'll be exacted. 723 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: Well, we're so appreciative of your time, and we're proud 724 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: of your Carlos, with all you've done and you continue 725 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,959 Speaker 1: to do. And we can't wait to see you in 726 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: in Mexico City and Georgia back up on the post 727 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: game concert. He'll be ready, he'll be. 728 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 3: Ready to get. 729 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and best of guys, keep keep up the great 730 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: work with Team Puerto Rico. We'll be cheering, y'all, and 731 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: that's fantastic. Carlos, take care, Thank you, thank you. I 732 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: appreciate you that you got it. That'll do it for 733 00:33:34,480 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: this addition of Magic Pod Squad. We'll see you next time.