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Speaker 1: here all week. You know, look, when you tune into
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun, it's gonna be different, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be unique. But at the end of the day, we're
Speaker 1: gonna have a good time, all right. So this week
Speaker 1: I was in Las Vegas for just a short less
Speaker 1: than I think. It was my quickest trip ever, less
Speaker 1: than twenty four hours. But I got invited to see
Speaker 1: this new v U two film at the Sphere and
Speaker 1: I had to go. I wanted to be there for
Speaker 1: the opening night because I was not able to go
Speaker 1: to the opening concert night. So I said, well, the
Speaker 1: next best thing is this film. And I was very
Speaker 1: curious because this is not a live concert. This is
Speaker 1: an immersive film that they shot at the Sphere during
Speaker 1: the U two concerts that they did there. So if
Speaker 1: you're not familiar with the Sphere, I'm sure you've seen it.
Speaker 1: It's that giant globe looking thing that lights up in
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. This is the first film to be shot
Speaker 1: with the spheres Big Sky ultra high resolution camera, which
Speaker 1: has a giant lens. I gotta look at this earlier
Speaker 1: this year at Yes. And of course this film takes
Speaker 1: advantage of the one hundred and sixty thousand square foot
Speaker 1: LED screen, which is sixteen by sixteen K resolution, and
Speaker 1: there's also haptic seats inside this theater. So what's it like? Well,
Speaker 1: I got to say it was pretty incredible, better than
Speaker 1: I expected. So first off, it starts around eight pm,
Speaker 1: while our show did, but they give you about forty
Speaker 1: five minutes to spend some time in the Sphere atrium,
Speaker 1: which has all kinds of things in it, like talking robots,
Speaker 1: holographic displays, and this audio demonstration. Because the Sphere has
Speaker 1: this technology that can beam different sounds to each seat,
Speaker 1: and so you can stand in these different beams of
Speaker 1: light and you're hearing something different in each one. It's
Speaker 1: pretty neat. Then you get into the show, which starts,
Speaker 1: like I said, about forty five minutes later. Tickets for
Speaker 1: this show are about one hundred dollars, so more expensive
Speaker 1: than maybe like a movie, but less expensive than a
Speaker 1: concert ticket, I mean, depending on the concert obviously, And
Speaker 1: they see people in the center suitet spot of the theater,
Speaker 1: so there are empty seats on the left and right
Speaker 1: of you. But they do that for a reason. Now,
Speaker 1: the show starts very simply, you see the guys on stage,
Speaker 1: you two. But the neat thing they did was they
Speaker 1: progress the show as you go along, so it gets
Speaker 1: more immersive and more impressive. They make more and more
Speaker 1: use of the magic of the venue as the show
Speaker 1: goes along, so they kind of, you know, start out
Speaker 1: slow and you're like, okay, this is cool. But then
Speaker 1: slowly but surely, they just start doing these neat things
Speaker 1: that you're like, oh that's cool. Oh that's really cool.
Speaker 1: Oh that's even cooler. So at one point, for instance,
Speaker 1: you feel as if the ceiling above you is moving
Speaker 1: down towards you. So that's one neat kind of thing
Speaker 1: that they do. But they use all these different tricks.
Speaker 1: Another neat part is this was my favorite, and I'm
Speaker 1: not giving away any spoilers, but kind they make the
Speaker 1: wall in front of you seem to disappear, so all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it looks like the wall in front
Speaker 1: of you melts away, and now you're sitting in your
Speaker 1: seat looking at the band playing, but now they're playing
Speaker 1: out side with the Vegas strip in the background, so
Speaker 1: you feel like you're outside and the you two is
Speaker 1: just playing in the middle of this like basically with
Speaker 1: the strip behind you. That was really really cool. Then
Speaker 1: there's some surprises, so of course the haptic seats they
Speaker 1: rumble that surprises you at some point throughout the show.
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. The first time it happened, we were
Speaker 1: all like, whoa wait, what And the people I was with,
Speaker 1: my wife had been to the sphere, but the other
Speaker 1: two people I was with had not, so they were
Speaker 1: really taken aback by that. But it surprised all of
Speaker 1: us even if you've been there before. And I'm not
Speaker 1: sure how they did this because the screen is not
Speaker 1: three D, but it literally looks like the band is
Speaker 1: playing there in front of you. It's almost a holographic experience.
Speaker 1: And that was probably the best part of the show,
Speaker 1: is that if you kind of give up that suspension
Speaker 1: of disbelief, like if you kind of have that a
Speaker 1: little bit you are literally feeling as if you two
Speaker 1: is playing there in front of you, but they're not.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a film. The audio and this experience
Speaker 1: was absolutely impeccable. I mean I would say it might
Speaker 1: even be better than the acoustics of a real concert.
Speaker 1: I know that's a bold statement, but it was so perfect,
Speaker 1: it was so crystal clear, and it was just so
Speaker 1: great that I was thoroughly impressed with the audio. And
Speaker 1: the Sphere is known for really good audio motion sickness.
Speaker 1: I know everyone's worried about motion sickness. Inside the sphere.
Speaker 1: You're not moving. This is not a ride at Disneyland.
Speaker 1: This is not a ride at Universal. The seats do
Speaker 1: not move, and you're not moving on an axis. It
Speaker 1: may it may give you the appearance or the feeling
Speaker 1: that you're moving because of the immersive screen. The screen
Speaker 1: is pretty much taking up the entire stadium, so that
Speaker 1: it does feel like you're moving at certain points. And
Speaker 1: there was a one point of the show where we
Speaker 1: all kind of looked at each other like, oh wow,
Speaker 1: we're getting sick right now. But you can look away
Speaker 1: from the screen, like look down, or look to the left,
Speaker 1: or look to the right, to kind of center yourself
Speaker 1: and you'll be fine. I don't think that's a big deal.
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, some people do feel motion sickness inside
Speaker 1: this fe I don't think that's the standard thing. But
Speaker 1: it's also kind of fun because it is a little
Speaker 1: bit of a different experience and it's like, Okay, I
Speaker 1: feel that I can look, I'm okay, We're safe and sound.
Speaker 1: It's fun. Overall. The sphere has created a new form
Speaker 1: of storytelling and one that I will say I was
Speaker 1: impressed with. I did not know what to feel or
Speaker 1: what to think about this because I saw the thing
Speaker 1: with Taylor Swift on the big screen. I didn't see
Speaker 1: at the movie theater. I saw it at home, and
Speaker 1: that's just a film of a concert. This is almost
Speaker 1: a new way to experience a band. So there's these
Speaker 1: unique physical and visual aspects that you might only experience
Speaker 1: at a special venue like this, something that might have
Speaker 1: been only at a theme park, something that might be
Speaker 1: termed four D. But because this screen is so immersive,
Speaker 1: and because this screen is so big and large, it's
Speaker 1: just totally different than anything I've experienced. So I think
Speaker 1: that this is really going to give creative types a
Speaker 1: new way of using the Sphear's unique canvas to tell stories.
Speaker 1: This is just the beginning. So far, they've only had
Speaker 1: really four events at this They've got the opening movie,
Speaker 1: which was like Postcard from Earth, which I saw, which
Speaker 1: was great. Then they had YouTube play there, real like
Speaker 1: actual playing in the sphere where they recorded this they
Speaker 1: did like forty shows or something like that. And then
Speaker 1: they had Death and Co or Death in Company Band
Speaker 1: they played there. And of course they've done a couple
Speaker 1: of events here and there, like I think the UFC
Speaker 1: is now going to be there, but this is like
Speaker 1: the first time they've kind of taken advantage of what
Speaker 1: these creative people have made out there in the desert,
Speaker 1: and it will see. I mean, this was an over
Speaker 1: a two billion dollar project, so we'll see if they
Speaker 1: can replicate this in the different cities. I know they
Speaker 1: had these plan for other cities, but I think this
Speaker 1: is a very expensive thing to build and the return
Speaker 1: is probably a little bit slower than they imagined. And
Speaker 1: by the way, just to make this film of You Too,
Speaker 1: I'm sure was very expensive as well. But I liked
Speaker 1: how they didn't go all at once with the sphere
Speaker 1: like what it can do I liked how the show
Speaker 1: gradually progresses to show off more of the unique aspects
Speaker 1: and the magic of this venue. So overall, I would
Speaker 1: say very unique experience, worth one hundred dollars, especially if
Speaker 1: you like the band. They successfully blurred the line between
Speaker 1: a film and a live performance, so if you're in Vegas,
Speaker 1: kind of something fun to see. I thought it was great.
Speaker 1: And for artists, what I think is neat about this
Speaker 1: is their music can live on in a in a
Speaker 1: unique new way. So I mean this you two show
Speaker 1: can live on for very, very many years, and I
Speaker 1: think fans would feel as if they are experiencing just
Speaker 1: a small part of a live performance, but it's not live.
Speaker 1: And by the way, the rockers never age, which is
Speaker 1: also kind of nice. Anyway, that's my review of the
Speaker 1: new v U two film at the Sphere. You can
Speaker 1: read that on my website. Rich on Tech dot TV.
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Speaker 1: It's all right there. Let's go to David in Fresno, California. David,
Speaker 1: you're on with Rich.
Speaker 2: Hi, thank you. My wife and I were watching the
Speaker 2: US Open and I'm mindlessly scrolling through messages from a
Speaker 2: group thing that we have on Facebook with my retired friends,
Speaker 2: and one of them sends me a link for movie shorts,
Speaker 2: and ultimately, ever since I clicked on that upper right
Speaker 2: hand corner of my nac air, I get this pop
Speaker 2: up about my viruses. I need to enroll in their
Speaker 2: service because I've been at tapped and so I did
Speaker 2: a virus scan. I have nothing what I can't get
Speaker 2: rid of, and it's really starting to flummix me. I
Speaker 2: cannot figure out how to get that dumb pop up
Speaker 2: to keep from continuously popping up on my screen.
Speaker 1: It sounds like you got some malware installed by clicking
Speaker 1: this link, and this is pretty typical. It can happen
Speaker 1: very easily. Did you install any programs on your computer?
Speaker 1: Do you think like, did you install any programs on
Speaker 1: your Mac computer?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Okay, so I think what happened. There's two ways to
Speaker 1: kind of clear this out. I think it sounds like
Speaker 1: you may have gotten an extension installed in your browser.
Speaker 1: What browser are you using?
Speaker 2: Safari?
Speaker 1: Okay? Oh, well that's interesting, all right. So in that case,
Speaker 1: I don't think that you got HM because installing extensions
Speaker 1: on Safari is a little bit more deep detail than
Speaker 1: it is on Chrome. So what I would do on
Speaker 1: Safari is, now here's the question do you have? Does
Speaker 1: this only happen when you're on the internet when you
Speaker 1: open Safari?
Speaker 2: It only happens it appears to only happened when I'm
Speaker 2: on Safari.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So what I would do is you've
Speaker 1: got to clear out Safari completely. So I would go
Speaker 1: when you go into Safari upper left hand corner of
Speaker 1: your screen, you can tap where it says Safari and
Speaker 1: where it says clear history, and then it gives you
Speaker 1: an option clear last hour, Clear today, clear today, and
Speaker 1: yesterday Clear all history. I would clear all history, and
Speaker 1: that's going to remove all the fragments of the websites
Speaker 1: that you visited from your browser. And I think what
Speaker 1: happened is you may have enabled notifications from a website
Speaker 1: and that's what's popping up in your upper right hand corner.
Speaker 1: So once you clear the history that website, the settings
Speaker 1: for that site will be reset and it will no
Speaker 1: longer be able to send you those So I think
Speaker 1: that's what's going to do it for you. If that
Speaker 1: does not work, I would go into Safari and I
Speaker 1: would go into your settings, and I would just look
Speaker 1: under the extensions just to make sure that you don't
Speaker 1: have any extensions installed. Mine says no extensions, That's what
Speaker 1: your should say. And I would just look at let
Speaker 1: me look at one more thing here. I would look
Speaker 1: under your websites and where it says notifications, I would
Speaker 1: make sure because it says these websites have asked for
Speaker 1: permission to show alerts in notification center. I would also
Speaker 1: look under there and make sure that no website is
Speaker 1: in there. If a website is in there, remove it.
Speaker 1: And I think that's what's happening to you, David.
Speaker 2: All right, I'll do those three things. I greatly appreciate
Speaker 2: your advice.
Speaker 1: All right. Appreciate you listening there in Fresno. Hope you're
Speaker 1: staying cool. I know it is a scorcher'er here in California.
Speaker 1: Thanks for the call today. I appreciate that Verizon is
Speaker 1: acquiring Frontier Communications for twenty billion dollars in cash. So
Speaker 1: if you have Frontier as your internet service provider, it
Speaker 1: will soon become Verizon in the next year and a
Speaker 1: half or so. It's ironic because here in southern California
Speaker 1: they actually acquired Frontier, acquired Verizon's service area a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago, and now it's going back to Verizon.
Speaker 1: Very very strange, but anyway, the merger is going to
Speaker 1: combine Frontier's two point two million fiber customers with verizon
Speaker 1: seven point four million FiOS customers. This will all be
Speaker 1: rebranded as FiOS and the new network's going to reach
Speaker 1: twenty five million houses across thirty one states. Frontier customers
Speaker 1: are going to be sold on all of Verizon stuff,
Speaker 1: so the cell phones and the home internet, the just
Speaker 1: everything that Verizon has. And of course Verizon in their
Speaker 1: release says it's going to provide more choice and access
Speaker 1: to premium services. But we all know what's really going
Speaker 1: to happen here. Your price for Internet is slowly but
Speaker 1: surely going to creep up because less competition means higher
Speaker 1: prices for consumers, and so the fact that there is
Speaker 1: one less company fighting against another company that is not
Speaker 1: very good for consumers. Because Verizon was heavily selling their
Speaker 1: home internet, their wireless home internet in places where they
Speaker 1: did not have fiber, and now that they have fiber
Speaker 1: and more places, they don't need to sell that as
Speaker 1: hard and the prices on that will probably go up
Speaker 1: as well. Again, transaction expected to close in about a
Speaker 1: year and a half. At the same time, Verizon is
Speaker 1: cutting their autopay discount. If you have an older plan,
Speaker 1: you might have gotten an email that says, hey, we
Speaker 1: want you to switch to this newer plan or we're
Speaker 1: going to cut your autopay discount from ten dollars a
Speaker 1: month to five dollars a month. Change is going to
Speaker 1: take effect on about October tenth. These affected plans are
Speaker 1: the older plans they have. They want you to switch
Speaker 1: to their new unlimited plan, which, by the way, yes
Speaker 1: you'll get that full ten dollars autopay discount, but you're
Speaker 1: probably going to be paying more overall for this plan
Speaker 1: or getting less than you used to get my recommendation.
Speaker 1: Check out Verizon Prepaid for sixty dollars unlimited or Visible
Speaker 1: is a good alternative. Eight eight eight rich one O
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Speaker 1: zero one. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro
Speaker 1: here hanging out with you, talking technology at triple eight
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Speaker 1: also sign up for my newsletter there, and you can
Speaker 1: hit the light bulb if you want links to what
Speaker 1: I mentioned on the show. Coming up next hour, we're
Speaker 1: going to talk to YouTuber Robert Rosenfeld. He is host
Speaker 1: of the Apple Circle, and he's going to talk about
Speaker 1: the upcoming Apple event happening next week, and just generally
Speaker 1: covering the Apple ecosystem. It's such a wild world. I mean,
Speaker 1: any video you do about Apple just seems to go
Speaker 1: viral for some reason. I mean not for everyone, but
Speaker 1: for him for sure. So we'll talk to him in
Speaker 1: a little bit. Steve writes in from Salem Oregon, is
Speaker 1: my SIM card corrupted? Messages and emails to me are
Speaker 1: delayed by hours, The battery runs down fast. My phone
Speaker 1: heats up about a half an hour to one hour
Speaker 1: of use. Steve, I don't think that is your SIM card.
Speaker 1: I think that sounds like either a connection problem. You
Speaker 1: could be in an area where you're not getting a
Speaker 1: strong connection, so that could run down your battery. I
Speaker 1: would suggest getting on Wi Fi when possible. The phone
Speaker 1: heats up, I mean, obviously it's a summer, the phones
Speaker 1: are getting you know, they are working overtime right now,
Speaker 1: and if it's getting you know, hot, after half an
Speaker 1: hour or an hour of use, that is pretty typical.
Speaker 1: Phones do heat up if you're using them for that
Speaker 1: amount of time. And some of the you know, latest
Speaker 1: phones do run a little bit warmer, especially the iPhone,
Speaker 1: especially the not so much the Samsung anymore, but the
Speaker 1: pixels definitely run a little warm. So as for the
Speaker 1: messages and emails delayed by hours, I can understand messages
Speaker 1: if you're not in a good spot with a signal
Speaker 1: emails that seems to be odd. So your phone could
Speaker 1: be in a low power mode, which means it's not
Speaker 1: checking for messages as fast as it typically would, so
Speaker 1: I would check to see if your phone is in
Speaker 1: a low power mode. Otherwise, I'm a big fan of
Speaker 1: what's called the network settings reset. Both the iPhone and
Speaker 1: the Android let you do this. So if you go
Speaker 1: into your settings, there is a way to reset your
Speaker 1: network settings, and it's a little bit different for the
Speaker 1: iPhone and for Android, but you can Google and get
Speaker 1: the directions for your particular device. But once you do that,
Speaker 1: that will reset your WiFi, that will reset your mobile settings,
Speaker 1: and reset your Bluetooth all back to like kind of factory.
Speaker 1: So that means you're gonna have to reconnect any of
Speaker 1: your Wi Fi devices to your phone, not to your
Speaker 1: route or just to your phone. So you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to connect your phone to Wi Fi once again, whether
Speaker 1: it's at home or at the office. Your mobile connection
Speaker 1: that's going to ge a reset, so it's going to
Speaker 1: kind of find the cellular towers again. And then your Bluetooth.
Speaker 1: You are going to have to reconnect your phone to
Speaker 1: any Bluetooth devices like your headphones or your car. But
Speaker 1: that typically takes care of a lot of the issues.
Speaker 1: The other thing I would check is to see if
Speaker 1: you're on Wi Fi calling, if you're having trouble with
Speaker 1: your network at your home, if you have a low signal,
Speaker 1: then I would just sign up turn on the Wi
Speaker 1: Fi calling at home, you know, so you can when
Speaker 1: you're on your Wi Fi network at home, it'll default
Speaker 1: to that instead of the cellular network. Thanks for the question, Steve,
Speaker 1: appreciate it up there in Salem, Oregon. I bet it's
Speaker 1: beautiful up there. New FTC data shows there is a
Speaker 1: massive increase in losses due to bitcoin ATM scams. This
Speaker 1: one surprised me. I've seen a lot of these Bitcoin
Speaker 1: ATMs are typically in gas stations. I'm guessing that the
Speaker 1: gas stations get sold on the appeal of a bitcoin
Speaker 1: ATM because they probably get a small profit from whatever
Speaker 1: transactions are done at the gas station, and that's where
Speaker 1: I've mostly seen these things. But the FTC says there's
Speaker 1: been nearly a tenfold increase since twenty twenty one. Hundred
Speaker 1: and ten million dollars lost in just twenty twenty three alone,
Speaker 1: and in twenty twenty four. Just the first six months
Speaker 1: of this year, losses have already topped sixty five million.
Speaker 1: So if you're doing the math and you're thinking, there's
Speaker 1: another six months left in twenty twenty four, that's another
Speaker 1: sixty five million. So that's more than last year. So
Speaker 1: that's that's a pretty wild number, sixty five million dollars
Speaker 1: in scams. You wonder why you get these text messages.
Speaker 1: You wonder why you get these emails that are just
Speaker 1: trying to get you to fall for one of these things,
Speaker 1: because people do do it, and people over sixty are
Speaker 1: three times more likely to fall victim to these scams
Speaker 1: compared to younger adults. That makes sense too. And you know,
Speaker 1: excuse I hear from my family a lot of times,
Speaker 1: or just people in general. I didn't want to bother you.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to bother you, bother your friends and family.
Speaker 1: If you have a situation like this that's happening to you,
Speaker 1: call your friends and family say hey, here's what's happening.
Speaker 1: This person's telling me to withdraw my money from my
Speaker 1: bank account and put it in a shoe box and
Speaker 1: hand it to them in the back of a black suv.
Speaker 1: Don't do that. People have done that. Yes, smart people
Speaker 1: have done that. Or this scam with the ATMs. Here's
Speaker 1: how it works. These people call you, they pretend they're
Speaker 1: either from the government or from a business like a
Speaker 1: bank or tech support, and they say, oh, you got
Speaker 1: to protect your cash. You got to take it out
Speaker 1: of the bank and you've got to deposit it into
Speaker 1: a Bitcoin ATM to safeguard it. And then once you
Speaker 1: do that, send us the QR code that they give
Speaker 1: you and will make sure that your money is safe.
Speaker 1: And that's the proof that it's safe. Well, guess what.
Speaker 1: Once the scam artists get that QR code, they are
Speaker 1: stealing your money. That's how they steal it. So how
Speaker 1: do you protect yourself? Do not respond to these calls,
Speaker 1: these messages, or even these pop ups you see that
Speaker 1: come up on your computer. If they're on and you're
Speaker 1: not thinking that something should be happening, don't do it.
Speaker 1: Verify any contact information, so if someone contacts you and
Speaker 1: they say they're from a particular place, go to the
Speaker 1: back of your bank card, call the bank from that
Speaker 1: phone number and ask take time to think, consult with
Speaker 1: others like friends and family. Like I mentioned, never withdraw
Speaker 1: cash from your account in response to these requests. And
Speaker 1: if anyone's asking you to use a Bitcoin ATM, a
Speaker 1: gift card or something like that to move money to
Speaker 1: protect it. Come on, you just know that's not right.
Speaker 1: You have a feeling, and what does it go back to?
Speaker 1: It goes back to that old adage, if it seems
Speaker 1: too good to be true, it probably is. So if
Speaker 1: someone's calling you out of the blue and saying, hey,
Speaker 1: you got to move fifty grand out of your your
Speaker 1: hard earned savings account and put it into a bitcoin ATM,
Speaker 1: come on, just think how silly that sounds. Don't do it.
Speaker 1: Don't do it at all. On a lighter note, Google
Speaker 1: Photos has a really cool feature that I've been playing with.
Speaker 1: It is an AI feature. You know, I love Google Photos.
Speaker 1: I have got all of my photos in there. I've
Speaker 1: been using it since day one. In fact, before it
Speaker 1: was Google Photos, it used to be called Picasa and
Speaker 1: I loved it even back then. And Google Photos now
Speaker 1: has this new feature called ask Photos and it's AI
Speaker 1: to search your collection, which is really really incredible. So
Speaker 1: you can now use natural language to search through your
Speaker 1: photo collection. Now, I don't know about you, but I've
Speaker 1: got I don't know, one hundreds, I've got so many photos.
Speaker 1: Let's see if I can see how many photos I
Speaker 1: have in my photo collection it's not an easy thing
Speaker 1: to do on Android. But let's see. If I go
Speaker 1: to my posts and let's see, I can go to
Speaker 1: photos and let's see here, that's really tough. See all. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I don't really know how to see all my pictures,
Speaker 1: but I've got a lot I think over like one
Speaker 1: hundred thousand. Yeah, it doesn't let me do this very easily.
Speaker 1: I thought there's a way to do that, but I
Speaker 1: guess not. Anyway, The point is I've got a lot
Speaker 1: of pictures in there, and once you have a lot
Speaker 1: of pictures in there, it's kind of scary because there's
Speaker 1: so many that it's like, I need to get these
Speaker 1: backed up somewhere else, that's for sure. Anyway. My point
Speaker 1: is finding photos I think is really easy on Google
Speaker 1: Photos because you can search for things like airplane or
Speaker 1: park or flowers or you know, someone's name that's in
Speaker 1: your contacts. But now you can use much more natural language.
Speaker 1: So you can say show me that concert I went
Speaker 1: to in Las Vegas last year and it will bring
Speaker 1: up those pictures, or show me all my pictures from
Speaker 1: Ireland that involve food and it can bring up pictures
Speaker 1: like that. So again it's much more like we're getting
Speaker 1: used to it chat, GBT where we can just ask
Speaker 1: things in a natural language. Now that's for your photo collection,
Speaker 1: and this isn't unique to Google. Apple has also announced
Speaker 1: that in iOS eighteen, with their AI powered stuff, you'll
Speaker 1: be able to do this as well. But again, all
Speaker 1: of these AI features are just making life so much
Speaker 1: easier for us as humans because we can finally interact
Speaker 1: with computers the way that we interact with other humans.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't go up to another human and say concert like,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't say that to them, right, you would say,
Speaker 1: remember that concert we went to in Las Vegas last year,
Speaker 1: how much fun it was. And now that's the way
Speaker 1: we're able to talk to AI and it's able to respond.
Speaker 1: But for so many years, everything that we've searched on
Speaker 1: our computer has been like you have to think of
Speaker 1: like maybe what the file name is, or like a
Speaker 1: keyword in that file presentation. It's like, okay, you wouldn't
Speaker 1: just search. You wouldn't ask someone presentation. You would say
Speaker 1: that presentation that I did last year about elephants, and
Speaker 1: that's how you'd find it. And that's how we're getting
Speaker 1: to search on our computers. And that's what I think
Speaker 1: is the best part of this AI revolution is we're
Speaker 1: finally able to interact in the way that we've always
Speaker 1: wanted to. In fact, I shared a little tip in
Speaker 1: my newsletter this week, which you can sign up for
Speaker 1: at the website rich on Tech dot TV. I know
Speaker 1: I mentioned that I mentioned a lot because I love
Speaker 1: my newsletter and I think I really give out great
Speaker 1: free information for that thing. But I gave a tip
Speaker 1: because last week I was trying to figure out how
Speaker 1: to keep my coffee maker on past the automatic shut
Speaker 1: off and it was really like I was like, there's
Speaker 1: only so many buttons on this thing, like which one
Speaker 1: does this? And so I downloaded the PDF for the
Speaker 1: coffee maker. It's a brand new coffee maker, so I
Speaker 1: didn't really know how to use it very well. And
Speaker 1: I was like searching the PDF for that, like how
Speaker 1: to keep this thing on? Couldn't figure it out. Well,
Speaker 1: I said, you know what, let me try this. I
Speaker 1: uploaded the entire pdf to AI and now I said,
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you some questions about this, and
Speaker 1: I said, how do I keep my coffee maker on
Speaker 1: past the auto shut off? And it said there are
Speaker 1: three ways to do it, and it gave the three
Speaker 1: ways in natural language, and the way that I wanted
Speaker 1: was there's a caraffe icon you press that, you press
Speaker 1: and hold it for three seconds, and it turns your
Speaker 1: machine back on without brewing a whole nother brew. And
Speaker 1: so it's like something that was very simple. I didn't
Speaker 1: find it in the manual even though it was there,
Speaker 1: but AI found it in seconds eighty eight rich one
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Speaker 1: backdrops for your TV. This is rich on Tech. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to rich On Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out
Speaker 1: with you, talking technology at Triple eight Rich one oh one.
Speaker 1: That's eight eight eight seven four to two four one
Speaker 1: zero one. Still lots to get through. On today's show,
Speaker 1: Instagram is introducing comments for stories. I'll tell you about that.
Speaker 1: And Roku is introducing a really really cool feature that
Speaker 1: turns your TV into a work of art. I'll explain that.
Speaker 1: Let's let's go to Mark in San Diego. Mark, You're
Speaker 1: on with Rich. Hi, Rich, great show, Thank you. You know.
Speaker 4: I have had problems in the last couple of days
Speaker 4: only watching YouTube on my piece at home and I
Speaker 4: get a notice. It says, aw snap, something went wrong,
Speaker 4: and then it says tie clearing your your.
Speaker 1: Cash and cookies. So I did that on the computer.
Speaker 4: But now I'm thinking maybe I should have done it
Speaker 4: on the Chrome browser.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's that's the thing. So this, uh, is this
Speaker 1: an older computer?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's an older nice old pavilion swim line. It's
Speaker 4: I don't know, later nine years old.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, if it's working right. Okay, So here's how
Speaker 1: you do this on on the Chrome web browser. So
Speaker 1: you go into your settings and there is you know,
Speaker 1: those three little dots in the upper right hand corner.
Speaker 1: It's weird. I really wish that Chrome would add like
Speaker 1: an actual like I don't know, like those three little
Speaker 1: dots are just so tough to explain to people. But anyway,
Speaker 1: you see them. So you go there and then you
Speaker 1: go into your settings. Okay, and then on the left
Speaker 1: hand side it says privacy and security, and then there's
Speaker 1: something that says delete browsing data, and it says delete history, cookies,
Speaker 1: cash and more. Do you see that?
Speaker 4: Here we go studying you just got the setting jab okay.
Speaker 1: And on the left hand side Privacy and Security. You
Speaker 1: see that, Oh yes, okay, tap that and that the
Speaker 1: almost the middle of the screen. It says delete browsing data.
Speaker 1: Do you see that, clear browsing data. Oh, your says clear. Interesting,
Speaker 1: you might have an older version of Chrome.
Speaker 4: Uh clear history cookies cash.
Speaker 1: Now does it give you when you click there? Does
Speaker 1: it say cashed images and files? And it tells me
Speaker 1: that I would free up ninety megabytes to say how much?
Speaker 1: How much you have it.
Speaker 4: Freed up less than three point four megabytes?
Speaker 1: Oh okay? Interesting? Oh well, what's the time range? Jack?
Speaker 1: Seven days? Oh okay, so I would do all time. Now,
Speaker 1: this is going to get rid of all of your
Speaker 1: history on your on your browser. So you know, you know,
Speaker 1: how you start typing in a website and you've gone
Speaker 1: to and it like completes it, you're gonna that's gonna
Speaker 1: be gone. And also your logins are also going to
Speaker 1: go away, so you're gonna have to, you know, make
Speaker 1: you know how to log into the websites that you
Speaker 1: typically go to. So just that's but anyway, so if
Speaker 1: that's all fine, then you can just tap that and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, once you do that, you can delete the
Speaker 1: data and you're good. Now. The other thing you might
Speaker 1: want to look at if you go into Advance before
Speaker 1: you do this, see where it says hosted app data.
Speaker 1: Let's see all the way at the end. So that
Speaker 1: may have some fragments of YouTube in there as well,
Speaker 1: so you might want to delete that as well, and
Speaker 1: so that that may help and include that in the
Speaker 1: clear data. Okay, yeah, so once you do all that,
Speaker 1: hopefully that should clear it out. I would also if
Speaker 1: I were you, once you do all this, I would
Speaker 1: also go into your settings on Chrome and I would
Speaker 1: go into about Chrome. So if you go in the
Speaker 1: lower left hand corner where you saw the Privacy and
Speaker 1: security all the way at the bottom, it says about Chrome.
Speaker 1: You tap that. And I think that everyone should do
Speaker 1: this because look at this. I just found Mike. Chrome
Speaker 1: has an update. It doesn't always tell you update immediately.
Speaker 1: It does generally, but sometimes you can find the update
Speaker 1: quicker by going into this little settings about Chrome, and
Speaker 1: mine says relaunch Chrome to finish updating. So Mark, I
Speaker 1: would also go to there and make sure that your
Speaker 1: Chrome is the latest for this computer. It may be
Speaker 1: that you're running an older version of Chrome. Just because
Speaker 1: this computer is an older model, it may not support
Speaker 1: the latest Chrome. But that's what I would do, and
Speaker 1: then I would relaunch Chrome once it's done, and then
Speaker 1: I would restart your entire computer and go back to
Speaker 1: YouTube and hopefully that takes care of that problem. So
Speaker 1: a good question, and thanks for the call today in
Speaker 1: San Diego. Appreciate it. Let's see here Instagram is adding
Speaker 1: comments for stories. Now. This is funny because I actually
Speaker 1: tweeted the guy who runs Instagram, Adam Oseri, and I said, hey,
Speaker 1: why are you going to introduce comments for stories? And
Speaker 1: this was years ago, maybe two years ago. He was like, ah,
Speaker 1: We're not doing that, and he's like, stories are more
Speaker 1: personal bla blah blah blah. I was like, I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: you know, people would like this, and A it was
Speaker 1: cool that he actually took the time to write back
Speaker 1: to me, but B I knew it was a matter
Speaker 1: of time before they added this because stories are the
Speaker 1: hottest growth area on Instagram. I mean, reels are hot,
Speaker 1: but everyone posts stories. Not everyone posts reels, right, but
Speaker 1: everyone posts stories. And so now instead of just being
Speaker 1: able to send a direct message, you can now comment
Speaker 1: on stories. Now, this is rolling out, not everyone's going
Speaker 1: to have it, so if you don't have it right away,
Speaker 1: don't come yelling at me. I don't have it yet.
Speaker 1: I've only seen one person that has it so far.
Speaker 1: And the comments act just like they act on the posts.
Speaker 1: Right you see a story that you like, instead of
Speaker 1: direct messaging someone at the bottom, you can now comment
Speaker 1: and other people will be able to see it. Now,
Speaker 1: there are some caveats there, so comments will be visible
Speaker 1: to anyone who can view the story, but for private
Speaker 1: accounts only people that you also follow can leave a comment,
Speaker 1: and for public account anyone that you follow can comment.
Speaker 1: So if I follow someone on Instagram, they can comment
Speaker 1: on my stories. Comments are temporary, they last up to
Speaker 1: twenty four hours, and you can turn them on and
Speaker 1: off for individual stories. Notice I said individual stories. They're
Speaker 1: not letting you turn this off, just the whole thing,
Speaker 1: like it's going to be on every story that you
Speaker 1: have to turn it off if you don't want it now. Again,
Speaker 1: comments can be preserved if you save the story as
Speaker 1: a highlight. Otherwise they seem to go away. That's kind
Speaker 1: of interesting to me. Since I don't have this, I
Speaker 1: can't test it but I'm curious if you go into
Speaker 1: your archive, which, by the way, you know all your
Speaker 1: stories on Instagram are archived, right, so if you go
Speaker 1: into Instagram and you know those stories don't really disappear
Speaker 1: after twenty four hours. If you tap your profile and
Speaker 1: then you go into the upper right hand corner, tap
Speaker 1: those three lines to go into your settings. If you
Speaker 1: go into archive, it'll show you all of your stories
Speaker 1: that you've ever posted, which is good and bad. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you posted something silly and you want to get
Speaker 1: rid of it, you can go into that actual story
Speaker 1: and and delete it for real, but otherwise it's going
Speaker 1: to be saved anyway. Kind of fun. I'm all about
Speaker 1: this because I get so many messages on a lot
Speaker 1: of my stories. It'll be kind of nice to have
Speaker 1: that little bit of conversation. But it has to be
Speaker 1: people I follow, so it only limits it to certain
Speaker 1: people anyway. Eight to eight rich one O one eight
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Speaker 1: On Tech, I posted I was in Vegas. If you
Speaker 1: heard the first segment, I was talking about my time
Speaker 1: in Vegas. We stayed at this new hotel I think
Speaker 1: you say it the fontin blue. It's kind of at
Speaker 1: the end of the strip. Beautiful hotel, really really nice.
Speaker 1: But I posted an instagram of the first thing I
Speaker 1: do when I get to the hotel room. So I
Speaker 1: know everyone has like a little routine. I show you mine.
Speaker 1: So if you want to see that at rich On Tech,
Speaker 1: and you can comment and let me know if you
Speaker 1: do the same thing or if you do something different.
Speaker 1: A lot of people commenting there. Beverly writes in on
Speaker 1: the website rich On tech Dot TV hit contact and
Speaker 1: you can get your email to me. Beverly says, hey, Rich,
Speaker 1: great weather jokes. The heat wave is unbelievable, but listening
Speaker 1: to your show and reading your fantastic newsletter provide some
Speaker 1: great distractions. My question is it okay to use the
Speaker 1: Wi Fi when renting an Airbnb? I wonder about the
Speaker 1: security of connecting phones and computers with bank accounts and
Speaker 1: other sensitive information. Generally, I would say, yes, you're gonna
Speaker 1: be fine, but you specifically mentioned bank accounts and sensitive information,
Speaker 1: so I think you're gonna be just fine with things
Speaker 1: like your email and pretty much anything else you're doing
Speaker 1: on there. But when it comes to checking your bank account,
Speaker 1: specifically logging in there, I would say, use a VPN
Speaker 1: or flip your phone, flip the Wi Fi off on
Speaker 1: your phone, and use your mobile data. But anything else
Speaker 1: you're going to do, whether you're using Netflix or whether
Speaker 1: you are just surfing the web, that's all gonna be fine.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, modern Wi Fi networks are pretty secure.
Speaker 1: Now you are using a quote unquote public network here,
Speaker 1: because many people have access to this network. People could
Speaker 1: have modified the network to spy on you. People could
Speaker 1: have you know, there's just many, many things that could
Speaker 1: happen when you're in an airbnb where many people have
Speaker 1: access to this router and network, So I would be cautious,
Speaker 1: So use a VPN if you're checking your bank account.
Speaker 1: But better yet, save the money. Just flip your phone
Speaker 1: out of Wi Fi into just mobile data from your
Speaker 1: cellular carrier if you have to check your bank account
Speaker 1: while you're there, and do that. And that's what I do.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's funny because the other day I'd noticed
Speaker 1: myself I was doing my routine on my computer. Then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I was like, I want to
Speaker 1: check something in my bank and I was like, oh
Speaker 1: wait a second, I got to turn the Wi Fi off.
Speaker 1: Same thing. Just anytime you're at an airport or a hotel,
Speaker 1: anytime you're on a public network, just kind of be
Speaker 1: aware of what you're doing. I think ninety nine point
Speaker 1: nine percent of the time, your computer and your firewall
Speaker 1: and all the stuff that's built in to modern systems
Speaker 1: is going to protect you to a certain extent, but
Speaker 1: it can only go so far. So just be aware
Speaker 1: that anything you do that's sensitive. I would flip off
Speaker 1: that flip off that didn't sound right, I would turn
Speaker 1: off your Wi Fi and I would go into your
Speaker 1: cellular or use your hotspot. So yesterday at the airport
Speaker 1: in Vegas, I just said, you know, I want let
Speaker 1: me just use my hotspot because that's the easiest thing
Speaker 1: to do. So good question, Beverly. And I'm glad you
Speaker 1: liked my weather jokes. I don't do jokes very often.
Speaker 1: I may joke around, but I'm glad you enjoyed those.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Angela in San Diego. Angela, you're on
Speaker 1: with Rich.
Speaker 5: Thanks for teting my call.
Speaker 1: Rich.
Speaker 5: I caught a piece of the back end of a
Speaker 5: piece that you did on the Bill Handle show last
Speaker 5: week about making the best use of airline miles. And
Speaker 5: I'm wondering if you could repeat that information because it
Speaker 5: sounded like something that was really valuable.
Speaker 1: Oh well, thank you. You know, I try to share
Speaker 1: valuable information all the time. But I'm glad what kind
Speaker 1: of miles and points are you most interested in? Like,
Speaker 1: what do you collect them? Do you try to get
Speaker 1: them or what?
Speaker 5: Well, ordinarily I collect them and use them for flights,
Speaker 5: but you pointed out that that wasn't the most prudent
Speaker 5: thing to do. In fact, you if I, if I understood,
Speaker 5: correctly recommended using them for upgrades rather than flights. And
Speaker 5: you even alluded to some websites that indicate when you're
Speaker 5: better off buying a ticket than using mile.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, good listener, Angela, you get a gold star
Speaker 1: for listening.
Speaker 5: That's but I don't I heard enough.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell I'll go through it right now. So okay,
Speaker 1: So here's the deal. So I did mention a couple
Speaker 1: of websites. This was inspired by my segment on KTLA
Speaker 1: about tools to maximize your travel rewards. Now, with all
Speaker 1: this said, I have hung out with the points guy.
Speaker 1: Points are big business. This is big money. So if
Speaker 1: you think you're getting ahead by, you know, getting these
Speaker 1: points from your credit card and all these places, you're not.
Speaker 1: They are having the last laugh. They are making money
Speaker 1: on this stuff. And yes, you can enjoy free flights, upgrades,
Speaker 1: all that good stuff. Just keep in mind don't go
Speaker 1: into debt trying to rack up airline points because that
Speaker 1: is not a winning game. And by the way, when
Speaker 1: you are trying to use your credit card to accrue
Speaker 1: these points, a lot of times you do spend more
Speaker 1: money than you typically would because it's on a credit
Speaker 1: card versus cash. Anyway, now I'm off my soapbox with
Speaker 1: all those warnings. I collect points. I think they're fun.
Speaker 1: I do them in a responsible way, and I'm not
Speaker 1: setting out to try to game the system. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a member of Mario, I've got their points.
Speaker 1: I'm a member of United, I've got their points and
Speaker 1: various other things out there. So with all that said,
Speaker 1: the things that you need to know Number one Points
Speaker 1: Yeah dot com. We had Bart Welch from Points Yeah
Speaker 1: on this show to talk about his points search engine.
Speaker 1: This searches across twenty different airline programs and six different
Speaker 1: bank programs. And what's really unique about that is, let's
Speaker 1: say you have Chase points, or let's say you have
Speaker 1: City Bank points. Those points are very valuable and they
Speaker 1: could be transferred into airline programs at a higher usage
Speaker 1: rate and a higher value than they would if you
Speaker 1: just booked through Chase. So I think, Angela, that's what
Speaker 1: you were alluding to when I was talking about some
Speaker 1: of that stuff. So that's a great search engine. A
Speaker 1: lot of it's free, but it is paid if you
Speaker 1: want to get the maximum out of it, which means
Speaker 1: searching on more days at once and also getting alerts
Speaker 1: when the flight that you want for the points that
Speaker 1: you want is available. Also, the Daydream Explorer tool is
Speaker 1: a really cool tool because you can say, look, I
Speaker 1: want to go to Europe business class, and let's see
Speaker 1: the cheapest times or days or ways to do that,
Speaker 1: and it may be on an airline that you didn't
Speaker 1: think of, but because you can transfer those miles from
Speaker 1: American Express or whatever, or even a different airline into
Speaker 1: another airline and get more value out of them, that
Speaker 1: could really be a unique way to do that. The
Speaker 1: other one that I really like is called point dot me,
Speaker 1: and so point me is a great one. It's kind
Speaker 1: of similar to Points.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit simpler in look because
Speaker 1: it only really does one thing and it just searches
Speaker 1: across all different points programs to find the best value
Speaker 1: for your points. And I use this to find a
Speaker 1: flight for my mom. Didn't even realize that we could
Speaker 1: use our points with Jet Blue, and it found a
Speaker 1: super cheap Jet Blue flight with points, and I immediately
Speaker 1: signed up for Jet Blue their points program whatever it's called,
Speaker 1: transferred my points into there and was able to buy
Speaker 1: a flight for my mom way cheaper than the going
Speaker 1: rate for cash for any flight for that weekend, And
Speaker 1: so I was a believer there. Now point dot me
Speaker 1: is a paid system. They used to offer like they'll
Speaker 1: have specials here and there where you could do a
Speaker 1: search for free or something like that, but they do
Speaker 1: want you to pay if you're getting serious about using that. Now,
Speaker 1: this is a really cool browser extension. It's called points Path,
Speaker 1: and so you can install this on Chrome and then
Speaker 1: when you search Google flights, it puts the points equivalent
Speaker 1: right next to the flight prices. So it's really easy
Speaker 1: to see, Like if you're searching for a flight to
Speaker 1: let's say Hawaii, and it's you know, three hundred and
Speaker 1: forty eight dollars with dollars, but it says this same
Speaker 1: flight is only twenty thousand points. It will actually point
Speaker 1: an arrow to the better value of your time and
Speaker 1: money and resources. So if points are a better deal,
Speaker 1: it will say use points. If money is a better deal,
Speaker 1: it'll say, use your money and save your points. It
Speaker 1: supports United American, Delta Jet Blue in Alaska. Now the
Speaker 1: Points Guy mentioned the points Guy, Brian Kelly. He does
Speaker 1: a great job with his website very successful there. He
Speaker 1: has a calculator on his website called Awards versus Cash Calculator.
Speaker 1: So if you go there and I'll link this all
Speaker 1: up on my website, rich on tech dot TV, hit
Speaker 1: the light bulb and you can get show notes for
Speaker 1: today's show. This is show number eighty eight. It will
Speaker 1: be in there. So if you go there, you can.
Speaker 1: This is kind of a manual way of that points
Speaker 1: path I just talked about. You pop in like, Okay,
Speaker 1: here's the deal I found with points. Compare it to cash,
Speaker 1: and it will tell you it's a better deal to
Speaker 1: use your cash, or it's a better deal to use
Speaker 1: your points, because sometimes it might be cheaper to use
Speaker 1: cash because your points are worth more. And that's the
Speaker 1: other thing I was talking about. Angela's a lot of
Speaker 1: people like to use their points to upgrade because it
Speaker 1: is a better value for them because they're getting like
Speaker 1: a first class flight for something that they feel is
Speaker 1: almost free. You know, they're points that they've racked up,
Speaker 1: So always look at that as well. The points guy
Speaker 1: there you go a ward wallet. I really like this
Speaker 1: because it tracks your account balances across all the loyalty programs.
Speaker 1: So for instance, myself, I signed up for this and
Speaker 1: I had some Hyatt points, which by the way, are
Speaker 1: very very valuable. So even though I only had thirteen
Speaker 1: thousand points, that was like basically a free night. A
Speaker 1: free night was fifteen thousand, and I didn't even realize that.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I have only thirteen thousand. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna let those go to waste because I haven't
Speaker 1: stayed at Higatt in a while. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: get more points. And I got this alert from a
Speaker 1: ward wallet that said, hey, use your points with Hygat.
Speaker 1: They're going to expire at the end of September, and
Speaker 1: my wife and I were going to a concert in
Speaker 1: Orange County and I said, let me see if there's
Speaker 1: any Hyatts near our concert we wanted to stay overnight,
Speaker 1: and so sure enough, it saved me like a couple
Speaker 1: hundred bucks on a hotel room. And I did have
Speaker 1: to transfer in about a thousand points. But my point
Speaker 1: is no pun intended that a ward walle it came
Speaker 1: to save me about three hundred dollars, and it's a
Speaker 1: free service. Just by saying, hey, these points are about
Speaker 1: to expire, use them or lose them, and it gives
Speaker 1: you all the ways you can actually extend those points.
Speaker 1: A lot of times all you have to do is
Speaker 1: some sort of transaction, like it might only take a
Speaker 1: dollar transaction to extend the life of these points. So
Speaker 1: a ward wall is really great for that. And then
Speaker 1: the expert advice we got from Bart. You know, don't
Speaker 1: don't don't keep, don't hold on to these points. They
Speaker 1: don't earn interest, so it's best to just use them
Speaker 1: as you accrue them, because otherwise the value of them
Speaker 1: is going down. Great question, Angela from San Diego, Thanks
Speaker 1: so much for calling. Eight to eight rich one oh
Speaker 1: one eight eight eight seven four two core one zero one,
Speaker 1: rich on tech dot TV coming up. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: what Roku is doing to your TV. It's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging
Speaker 1: out with you, talking technology at eight eight eight rich
Speaker 1: one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four to
Speaker 1: two four one zero one. You can you can sense
Speaker 1: the trend with the songs today. Yeah, it's hot in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. It is a heat wave. I think we're
Speaker 1: finally close to getting through. But stay safe out there.
Speaker 1: Don't do too much, you know what, you have an
Speaker 1: excuse to just not do that much, you know, because
Speaker 1: it's like you don't want to overheat yourself. Eighty eight
Speaker 1: rich one O one eight eight eight seven four to
Speaker 1: two four one zero one. Roku introducing a cool new feature.
Speaker 1: I love this feature. It's called backdrops. You know how
Speaker 1: when you have a Roku, it just shows that like
Speaker 1: weird like Digital City with like the weird ads like
Speaker 1: scrolling through. If you have a Roku, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, Well, you can finally set this new
Speaker 1: backdrop as your TV background. It's weird because I kind
Speaker 1: of did it a little bit half, you know what,
Speaker 1: so it's not going to be your screen saver. It
Speaker 1: sounds like you have to activate this manually every single time.
Speaker 1: But I'll take it because it's pretty neat. So they
Speaker 1: call it backdrops, and it's basically a way to display
Speaker 1: classic artwork and landscape photos on your Roku device when
Speaker 1: it's not in use. And they give you a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of images, so thousands of images like Claude Monet
Speaker 1: and a whole bunch of other stuff. There are also
Speaker 1: descriptions so you can understand what the art is all about,
Speaker 1: plus geography. But the cool thing is You can also
Speaker 1: upload your personal photos to use with this, or connect
Speaker 1: your Google Photos account, and that is incredible. So no
Speaker 1: matter what, you now can turn your Roku into sort
Speaker 1: of a piece of art for your living room or
Speaker 1: wherever your TV is. This feature is rolling out to
Speaker 1: Roku branded TVs in the coming weeks, and if you
Speaker 1: have a Roku box, you have to wait until the
Speaker 1: some time. It already kind of is the fall, so
Speaker 1: I'm guessing the next couple of months. But it's kind
Speaker 1: of cool. I'm very excited for this. You have to
Speaker 1: activate it manually. Apparently, maybe they'll change that if people say, hey,
Speaker 1: can we just make it so that when my screen
Speaker 1: times out after five minutes, it'll display this instead of
Speaker 1: that weird scrolling city scape thing that's been around. It
Speaker 1: looks like it's like, you know, ten years old from
Speaker 1: the nineties or something. But I think Roku sells ads
Speaker 1: on that weird digital screenscape thing, so that's probably why
Speaker 1: they want to keep that there. But anyway, you'll be
Speaker 1: able to activate this either manually with your voice or
Speaker 1: by the settings. But kind of cool backdrops from Roku
Speaker 1: that's new and it kind of gives new life to
Speaker 1: your TV. I love putting on like kind of a
Speaker 1: photo screensaver when I have people over. But then my
Speaker 1: TV like times out after a while, and then it
Speaker 1: like goes off, but it's kind of fun. And then
Speaker 1: people get like they start looking at the pictures on
Speaker 1: the TV. I'm like, you're not supposed to be like
Speaker 1: looking at them. It's not a slide show. It's just
Speaker 1: like the background, you know. And then like people are like,
Speaker 1: what's that picture? What's that?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let's go to Paul and Columbus, Ohio. Paul
Speaker 1: your own with Rich.
Speaker 6: Well keep it cool, hey, Paul, a little a little
Speaker 6: cooler you are today. But anyway, I've got a using
Speaker 6: a fire TV cube with a High Sense TV and
Speaker 6: I've got a Denim AV receiver and in the last
Speaker 6: several days or a week or so, maybe periodically just
Speaker 6: randomly a few times a day or evening, it goes
Speaker 6: just goes to pause.
Speaker 7: To make a.
Speaker 6: Difference with the video sources as far as what channel
Speaker 6: or service anything like that. But when it is on
Speaker 6: a station, like I say, it just all of a
Speaker 6: sudden will just pause itself.
Speaker 1: Hmm. Interesting, and it's just pausing any any kind of
Speaker 1: streaming content is pausing.
Speaker 6: Whatever's on the whatever's on the system at that time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. And are you are you pressing anything, touching anything,
Speaker 1: doing anything when this happens?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 1: Nothing?
Speaker 3: And is it?
Speaker 6: Is it?
Speaker 1: Is it a buffering issue? Like can you tell if
Speaker 1: your screen is buffering?
Speaker 6: It'll tell us the just the most show that it's
Speaker 6: buffering if it's buffering.
Speaker 5: But okay, this is besides it.
Speaker 6: And I've got a good solid five hundred downs.
Speaker 1: Oh nice. Now when this happens, do you see the
Speaker 1: playbar come up on the screen with the pause like enabled.
Speaker 1: Is that what it looks like? No, it doesn't.
Speaker 6: It just pauses.
Speaker 1: Oh that's interesting.
Speaker 6: Okay, Well, no, I don't want to say that absolutely
Speaker 6: that nothing shows up otherwise because I'm visually impaired. But
Speaker 6: my wife would say there may be. Okay, So I
Speaker 6: just pushed the pause button to you know, go back
Speaker 6: to play, and it starts to play right away.
Speaker 1: Okay, So that would be that That would be something
Speaker 1: I would be curious about, is the if the play
Speaker 1: button comes up. There's a couple of things that could
Speaker 1: be going on here. You know, another device on your
Speaker 1: network could be interfering and controlling this and stopping it.
Speaker 1: So there's something with HDMI called CEC, which is basically
Speaker 1: one device can control another through little signals that they
Speaker 1: send to each other. So if you have another device
Speaker 1: on this network that's sort of turning on or firing up,
Speaker 1: it may be sending that signal that's causing your fireTV
Speaker 1: to pause. That's one thing. The other thing that I
Speaker 1: would do is check your fireTV to make sure you
Speaker 1: have the latest software. You can go into your settings
Speaker 1: and check for the latest software update. Go to the
Speaker 1: about page and that's where you find it and see
Speaker 1: if that's the case. And I would also restart your
Speaker 1: fireTV and I might disconnect it from your denin system
Speaker 1: and see if this continues to happen because it sounds
Speaker 1: like something is sending a signal. And don't forget some
Speaker 1: of the other remotes can also pause these things too,
Speaker 1: so make sure you're not like sitting on a remote
Speaker 1: or something like that. Thanks for the call, Paul. Coming up,
Speaker 1: we're talking Apple. Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich
Speaker 1: Demiro here hanging out with you talking technology at triple
Speaker 1: eight rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven
Speaker 1: four two four one zero one give me a call
Speaker 1: if you have a question about technology. We'll get back
Speaker 1: to the phone lines in just a little bit, but first,
Speaker 1: Robert Rosenfeld is joining us. He is a YouTuber and
Speaker 1: host of The Apple Circle, where he discusses all kinds
Speaker 1: of Apple stuff and it's a great site, a great
Speaker 1: a great channel on YouTube. So if you like Apple stuff,
Speaker 1: go ahead and follow him. Robert, Welcome to the show, Rich,
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for having me absolutely. Let's first off,
Speaker 1: so you started this YouTube channel. You've had some pretty
Speaker 1: good success. What's it like to be a YouTuber like people?
Speaker 1: You know, people used to want to be like an
Speaker 1: actor or a singer, like someone like a If you
Speaker 1: ask a kid like what they want to do, they
Speaker 1: want to be someone famous. You're living like the YouTube dream.
Speaker 1: So what's that like?
Speaker 6: It is like.
Speaker 9: Living a dream as a kid. I was the one
Speaker 9: watching YouTube videos. That's where I sort of got my news.
Speaker 9: I was sort of the kid watching Apple keynotes like
Speaker 9: it was Christmas Day, sort of seeing what presence there
Speaker 9: would be to sort of unpack and what Steve Jobs
Speaker 9: would sort of unveil on stage and to sort of
Speaker 9: really take a couple of weird turns and be able
Speaker 9: to do this like full time as a career. Is
Speaker 9: It's a dream come true and it is so much fun,
Speaker 9: especially with big days coming up, like the big Apple
Speaker 9: event on Monday.
Speaker 1: Is it a lot of work because people think, you know,
Speaker 1: you make it look easier, videos are slick, But is
Speaker 1: it a lot of work.
Speaker 9: It's a lot of work with you know, research and
Speaker 9: shooting and editing, and it's a lot of going down
Speaker 9: rabbit holes and reading through legal jargon and technical documents
Speaker 9: and going on Reddit threads and watching you know, great
Speaker 9: reports from reporters like you, and trying to consolidate consolidate
Speaker 9: that information in a way that hopefully is entertaining and
Speaker 9: fun and hopefully not too long because I could ramble
Speaker 9: and ramble for twenty five minutes, So to get that
Speaker 9: into a nice, you know, eight to ten minute package
Speaker 9: can sometimes be a little tough.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I know, as someone who is creative as well, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like you sometimes go longer than you think and
Speaker 1: you're like, I don't want to cut any of this,
Speaker 1: It's all my baby, but sometimes you have to be brutal.
Speaker 1: So what resonates on your YouTube channel the most with
Speaker 1: people when it comes to Apple, I mean pretty much.
Speaker 1: You know, I joked earlier that if you do an
Speaker 1: Apple video it could like go viral because people just
Speaker 1: they're fascinated with this company. But what do you find
Speaker 1: that resonates with your viewers the most? You know, it's
Speaker 1: so funny. It's the secrecy of Apple. The Apple lovers
Speaker 1: want to know what Apple's going to do. The Apple
Speaker 1: haters want to know what Apple's going to do next.
Speaker 1: And because everything this company does is show shrouded in
Speaker 1: mystery and secrecy, it's just fun to try to read
Speaker 1: the tea leaves, so to speak, and put the puzzle
Speaker 1: pieces together to see what is sort of coming up
Speaker 1: next and what the new feature could be or what
Speaker 1: the new product could be. I think a lot of
Speaker 1: the people in our community who watch our videos, they're
Speaker 1: Apple fans. They're the geeks.
Speaker 9: They want to geek out and sort of know and
Speaker 9: be in the loop on what could be coming next.
Speaker 9: But I think more and more these days it's people
Speaker 9: just trying to sort of validate their purchase decision. If
Speaker 9: they're going to invest into a new iPhone or a
Speaker 9: Mac or an iPad or whatever it may be, they
Speaker 9: want to make sure they're buying the right device at
Speaker 9: the right time, and they don't want to miss out
Speaker 9: on something amazing that could be coming in two days
Speaker 9: or three weeks or three months.
Speaker 1: So they just want to know what's coming next.
Speaker 9: So I think everyone sort of either selfishly sort of
Speaker 9: an Apple fan maybe the Apple hater sort of wants
Speaker 9: to know where Apple's going next door. Hey, I want
Speaker 9: to spend a thousand bucks on a phone. I want
Speaker 9: to make sure I'm buying at the right time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I always joke that the Apple stuff has
Speaker 1: like this like ticking time bomb of a timeline where
Speaker 1: if it's a product that they come out with, you
Speaker 1: almost have to get it like right when it comes
Speaker 1: out because they're going to have a new version like
Speaker 1: a year later. And so like with a MacBook, I mean,
Speaker 1: I know that they have a long lifetime with these things,
Speaker 1: but for me personally, I'm like, Okay, I want that
Speaker 1: new MacBook now because I know they're going to come
Speaker 1: out with the new generation in a year, and I
Speaker 1: want to like feel like I've gotten my use out
Speaker 1: of this. If I buy it six months in now,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, I could have had six more months
Speaker 1: of use before the new one. But anyway, that's just me.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about some of the hot kind of like
Speaker 1: iPhone apps and accessories that you like. Do you have
Speaker 1: anything that we, you know, would find interesting.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, I'm always on the hunt for really
Speaker 9: cool apps that extend beyond the iPhone. If they can
Speaker 9: sort of tie into other parts the Apple ecosystem, AirPods,
Speaker 9: Apple watches, I'm all in for that. One I've been
Speaker 9: testing that I really like is an Apple called train Well.
Speaker 9: And the idea of this app is they connect you
Speaker 9: to sort of a real fitness professional. You've got your
Speaker 9: own sort of personal trender who sort of you know,
Speaker 9: you do a Google meet with them and they sort
Speaker 9: of are able to craft their custom workout plan for you,
Speaker 9: and then you go to the gym or you work
Speaker 9: out a home. You open up the app whenever you
Speaker 9: want to work out, and not only do you have
Speaker 9: sort of you know, videos of what the workout is,
Speaker 9: you can sort of see what you're doing and sort
Speaker 9: of track along and make sure you're staying on pace.
Speaker 9: But also, I think the secret sauce here is their
Speaker 9: integration with the Apple Watch. So because a lot of
Speaker 9: us are wearing these Apple watches on our wrists. It's
Speaker 9: collecting our heart rate information, it's analyzing our movement. So
Speaker 9: as I work out, the Apple Watch Companion app is
Speaker 9: tracking all this information and I can get real time
Speaker 9: info and feedback. So maybe I've got my AirPods in,
Speaker 9: I'm doing dumbbell curls. I'm listening to the Ridge on
Speaker 9: Tech podcast as I work out, and I'm getting sort
Speaker 9: of a voice in my ear saying, hey, you're going
Speaker 9: a little too high at the top or a little
Speaker 9: too low at the bottom, or slow down that move
Speaker 9: So I'm getting that real time feedback as I work out.
Speaker 9: And then what's also cool is sort of post workout,
Speaker 9: your trainer, wherever they are in the world, is able
Speaker 9: to sort of look at that info, see if your
Speaker 9: heart rate was where it needed to be, see how
Speaker 9: your e motion was, and then they sort of message
Speaker 9: you in the app and give you feedback to say, hey,
Speaker 9: great job, or know this, you were a little too
Speaker 9: fast on that, maybe we should adjust the weight. So finding,
Speaker 9: you know, apps that sort of use the different parts
Speaker 9: of the ecosystem, that's been super fun for me, and
Speaker 9: this one has been quite love The Apple Watch integration
Speaker 9: is so so cool.
Speaker 1: That's cool. Okay, so train well dot Net is that one.
Speaker 1: So we've got this big event coming up on Monday.
Speaker 1: This is the iPhone launch event. What do they call it?
Speaker 1: Glow time? That's their It's glowtime. It's glow time. So
Speaker 1: what are we expecting? I know the iPhone sixteen obviously,
Speaker 1: but is there going to be any surprises with that
Speaker 1: device or what? I hope We.
Speaker 9: Always sort of hope for that one more thing, that
Speaker 9: special magical moment, and sometimes Apple does sort of throw
Speaker 9: us for a loop and show us something we weren't expecting.
Speaker 9: But I think that the Apple leaks have gotten so good,
Speaker 9: especially the last couple of years, that we typically sort
Speaker 9: of know by and large what's coming before Apple announces it.
Speaker 9: So we will, of course see the iPhone sixteen. We're
Speaker 9: expecting some minor re spec bumps to every Apple watching
Speaker 9: the lineup, and I think the one wild card could
Speaker 9: be in the air pods category. We're expecting an AirPods
Speaker 9: Gen four, so a nice update to the regular standard
Speaker 9: air pods with active noise cancelation for the first time
Speaker 9: in a non pro seat of AirPods. That'd be awesome. Well,
Speaker 9: we've also heard these rumblings about a ninety nine dollars
Speaker 9: pair of AirPods, maybe a more base entry level Gen
Speaker 9: four that we still have slick, you know, us sinking
Speaker 9: between all your Apple devices, great batter like maybe minus
Speaker 9: some of the bells and whistles of the pro stuff.
Speaker 9: But you know, ninety nine dollars will not inexpensive in
Speaker 9: the Apple world. That's sort of a bargain because they
Speaker 9: don't usually do you know, higher end pristine products at
Speaker 9: these price points. So that would be cool. And that's
Speaker 9: the one thing I'm sort of hoping to see, hopefully
Speaker 9: Tim or another exec show off on Monday.
Speaker 1: I mean that that sub one hundred dollars price is
Speaker 1: music to anyone's ears, because I'm looking at the current AirPods.
Speaker 1: You've got one hundred and twenty nine, one sixty nine
Speaker 1: and two forty nine. So if you can get a
Speaker 1: ninety nine dollars AirPods, and that's by the way, you know,
Speaker 1: not on sales. I've seen AirPods as they get a
Speaker 1: little bit aged up there, they do drop in price
Speaker 1: a little bit, and you know, there this is an
Speaker 1: easy win, like on Black Friday, Cyber Monday, like the
Speaker 1: discounts on AirPods because people love getting earbuds and it's
Speaker 1: like an easy gift, It's an easy thing to get yourself.
Speaker 1: So that ninety nine dollars price point would be really nice.
Speaker 1: And I know Samsung has done the fee models of
Speaker 1: their stuff, which is a little bit cheaper but kind
Speaker 1: of premium and so and I've seen that. You know,
Speaker 1: there's just so many earbuds out there, and when people
Speaker 1: look at the Apple stuff compared to the others, like
Speaker 1: ah wa shuld I pay a little bit more, but
Speaker 1: you do get that integration with the ecosystem. Do you
Speaker 1: use like other devices like ever like Samsung or Google,
Speaker 1: like to sample them or what you know?
Speaker 9: I do. I try to dabble in world of the
Speaker 9: pixel and you know, Samsung devices, and I mean credit
Speaker 9: to where credits do. Samsung and Google and other Android
Speaker 9: manufacturers are doing some really great innovative things and bringing
Speaker 9: a lot of competition to the space. But the problem
Speaker 9: I always have time and time again is that I'm
Speaker 9: so entrenched in the Apple ecosystem, this Apple walled garden,
Speaker 9: that it can be sort of hard to sort of
Speaker 9: break out. And there are ways to do it, but man,
Speaker 9: when you've got a Mac and an iPad and air
Speaker 9: pods and everything so seamlessly works, and you rely on
Speaker 9: technologies like air drop while there are alternatives.
Speaker 1: To be used.
Speaker 9: It's so it's nice and you know, as cliches it sounds,
Speaker 9: Apple does have a little bit of that Apple magic
Speaker 9: in there when you use all their stuff that it's
Speaker 9: kind of hard to sort of break away.
Speaker 1: And you said something interesting. I interviewed you from my
Speaker 1: KTLA segment which is airing Monday, and you said something
Speaker 1: interesting there about how Apple does things a little bit
Speaker 1: later sometimes, you know, like like a lot of the
Speaker 1: features that have come out I was looking at like
Speaker 1: some of the features that came out on the iPhone
Speaker 1: over the years, like wireless charging and water resistance and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and like it's a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: that Samsung had done in the past, you know. But
Speaker 1: to explain what you said about how Apple does things, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's this mantra that Apple. You know, typically they're never
Speaker 1: the first to enter a new product category or bring
Speaker 1: a new feature. Usually they're a little late to the
Speaker 1: party on some of these things. Other manufacturers have done
Speaker 1: it first. But typically when Apple does decide to do something,
Speaker 1: they do it really well. They bring their own spin
Speaker 1: on things, They bring some sort of integration that we
Speaker 1: just haven't seen before. And again, as cliche as it is,
Speaker 1: that Apple Magic does exist. And when they're able to
Speaker 1: introduce a new feature that fans have been clamoring for,
Speaker 1: even if it's you know, laid and Android fans have
Speaker 1: had it for five years, it's always sort of nice.
Speaker 1: And Apple's always able to do sort of their unique
Speaker 1: spin and do things their own way that users and
Speaker 1: fans definitely appreciate. All right, And I imagine you'll be
Speaker 1: watching very closely Monday morning, ten am Pacific. That's when
Speaker 1: this event happens, and you'll have your whole round up
Speaker 1: and all that good stuff.
Speaker 9: Absolutely, I will have full coverage, breakdown and every think
Speaker 9: and I don't want to spoil things too much, but
Speaker 9: I will say we've already got rumors. News cycle never
Speaker 9: sleeps on the iPhone seventeen, So in a couple of weeks,
Speaker 9: the iPhone rumor train will leave the station and start
Speaker 9: up once again.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, All right, Robert Rosenfeld, we're gonna leave
Speaker 1: it there. YouTube dot com slash the Apple Circle. You
Speaker 1: can subscribe to h Robert there for all of his
Speaker 1: Apple coverage. Thanks for joining me today. Honor to be here, Rich,
Speaker 1: Thank you again. All right, thanks a lot, so exciting,
Speaker 1: lots of fun stuff. Apple. You know, it's a it's
Speaker 1: a company people either love or hate, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I see a lot of iPhones out there, but I
Speaker 1: a'll see a lot of androids, so you know, to
Speaker 1: each his own. All right, coming up more of your questions.
Speaker 1: Plus I'll tell you what Samsung is doing with their
Speaker 1: AI features bringing them to more devices. Is yours one
Speaker 1: of them? This is rich on Tech. Welcome back to
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Speaker 10: Hello.
Speaker 7: I have a situation where several times a year we
Speaker 7: stay at this one house and we stay for about
Speaker 7: two to three weeks, but there's no Wi Fi connection.
Speaker 10: There's no Wi Fi there.
Speaker 3: Up.
Speaker 7: What we've been doing is she's using my phone or
Speaker 7: our phones to create a hotspot so we can, you know,
Speaker 7: get onto our computers. But it does use up a
Speaker 7: lot of data and it runs the phone battery down.
Speaker 7: So I just came across a real quick myths about something.
Speaker 7: I think it's called a travel modem. Okay, okay, would
Speaker 7: that help us in this situation? They have better WiFi?
Speaker 1: Well, okay, so how many times a year are you
Speaker 1: going to this house?
Speaker 7: About three times a year and then we're for about
Speaker 7: two to three weeks?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so you're there for a while, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: So there's a couple of things you can do. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think that using your phone as a hotspot is
Speaker 1: actually the best thing to do because you already have
Speaker 1: the phone, and it's by the time you buy another
Speaker 1: plan for like a Wi Fi hotspot, a dedicated Wi
Speaker 1: Fi hot spot, it's probably going to cost you more
Speaker 1: than just upgrading your phone plan to have more hotspot data.
Speaker 1: What carrier are you using?
Speaker 10: Spectrum?
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're okay, So what do they give you?
Speaker 1: How much do they give you on your on your WiFi?
Speaker 10: Uh I I don't know off my head, but I
Speaker 10: do know that or there maybe about four three fourths
Speaker 10: of the time that we're there, we're getting messages.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're over. Yeah. Okay. So it looks like Spectrum
Speaker 1: gives you five gigabytes of monthly hotspot, which is not
Speaker 1: very much because if you're using any kind of streaming
Speaker 1: or whatever. Yeah, so if you're on an Unlimited Plus line,
Speaker 1: you get ten gigabytes, which a little bit better. But
Speaker 1: after your five gigs or ten gigs are up, they
Speaker 1: slow you down to a crawl, which you've probably noticed.
Speaker 1: You can't do anything at that speed. It's really really bad.
Speaker 1: So with that said, so you can either you may
Speaker 1: not be able to upgrade your plan if you're already
Speaker 1: on that Unlimited Plus, or you can ask them and
Speaker 1: see what the difference is. If it's like five or
Speaker 1: ten dollars, that may be worth it. For one hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty dollars for the year, you can get a
Speaker 1: separate What you would need is a hot spot, so
Speaker 1: you can go to like Verizon, you need a mobile hotspots,
Speaker 1: you can go to Verizon, you can go to AT
Speaker 1: and T, you can go to T Mobile and buy
Speaker 1: one of these hot spots. The problem is the hot
Speaker 1: spot itself is going to cost you anywhere from one
Speaker 1: hundred to two to you know, sometimes three hundred dollars
Speaker 1: for that. Then you have to have a monthly plan
Speaker 1: for that as well, so that is that's going to
Speaker 1: be kind of an expensive proposition for six weeks a year,
Speaker 1: so or nine weeks a year or whatever you're doing there.
Speaker 1: The other thing you can do is you can get
Speaker 1: what's called five G home Internet and that is through
Speaker 1: te Mobile or Verizon, and the plans on those are
Speaker 1: around i'd say thirty five dollars a month, so again
Speaker 1: you're talking thirty five times twelve. That's four hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty dollars for the year. So that's another option, but
Speaker 1: that's again kind of pricey. The other option you can
Speaker 1: do is there are standalone kind of dedicated like you
Speaker 1: mentioned travel hotspots. The company that I like is Solace Solis.
Speaker 1: They have a product where you can get hot spot.
Speaker 1: They have one that's the light or the five G
Speaker 1: So this is anywhere from one hundred and fifty to
Speaker 1: three hundred dollars, but that's meant to be used worldwide,
Speaker 1: so it's kind of a hot spot that's used everywhere,
Speaker 1: and so you're going to pay more for your data,
Speaker 1: which is you know, it's it's going to be an
Speaker 1: expensive proposition for the data. That's the problem with that.
Speaker 1: So if you look at their plans that they have,
Speaker 1: let's see their plan that they have. The plan, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they have USA unlimited data is let's see here how
Speaker 1: much eighty nine dollars for let's see twelve months. Let's
Speaker 1: just see how much it is. Five six months would
Speaker 1: be three hundred and seventy three dollars. So again, all
Speaker 1: of these options, besides your phone as a hotspot, are
Speaker 1: getting very expensive. Now here's my other question. Where this
Speaker 1: house is located, do they have a free Wi Fi
Speaker 1: signal that you can latch onto or does Spectrum have
Speaker 1: a Wi Fi signal in that area that you can
Speaker 1: log onto, because you would get that included in your
Speaker 1: Spectrum plan. Good question, I would look into that.
Speaker 7: Don't show the answer to that.
Speaker 1: So now the other thing you can do is you
Speaker 1: can get what's called an eSIM for your phone, and
Speaker 1: that's an add on, and you can get an eSIM
Speaker 1: for the US and use that as a hotspot. So
Speaker 1: if you can find a cheap eSIM that that would
Speaker 1: work in the US, which there are several, you can
Speaker 1: do that, or you can switch carriers. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you go to something like Visible, you're still going to
Speaker 1: be on that Verizon network that you're on with Spectrum.
Speaker 1: But they do offer unlimited hot spot for forty five
Speaker 1: dollars a month and that includes a plan, So that
Speaker 1: may be another way to go, But of course that
Speaker 1: involves changing carriers, something not everyone wants to do. So Deborah,
Speaker 1: you've got options, but I think I mean, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what my dad did. He he switched carriers. He
Speaker 1: was at a place where he goes to a vacation
Speaker 1: home where his phone didn't work, and he switched to
Speaker 1: another carrier where and he upgraded to the one hundred
Speaker 1: gargabytes of Wi Fi hotspot a month because he needed
Speaker 1: his hotspot when he went there, and so he took
Speaker 1: that plunge there and changed carriers. She may have to
Speaker 1: do that, Debra, Thanks for the call. Eighty to eight
Speaker 1: rich one oh one more rich on Tech right after this,
Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging
Speaker 1: out with you, talking technology. The phone line is eight
Speaker 1: eight eight rich one oh one eight eight eight seven
Speaker 1: four to two four one zero one. The website rich
Speaker 1: on Tech dot tv and feel free to follow me
Speaker 1: on Instagram. At rich on Tech, we just had a
Speaker 1: caller who was trying to figure out her hotspot situation
Speaker 1: in a place where she was running through her hotspot
Speaker 1: on her phone very quickly. Leslie from Santa Ana writes
Speaker 1: in rich I'm listening to your show right now, and
Speaker 1: I wanted to suggest a solution. Why not recommend visibles hotspot.
Speaker 1: I use it for streaming Hulu, Netflix and other services.
Speaker 1: It works great. She can even buy an affordable phone
Speaker 1: like the Moto G Play for about ninety bucks to
Speaker 1: use as a dedicated hotspot. Just trying to help out
Speaker 1: a fellow listener. Have a great day you're listening to
Speaker 1: rich on Tech. Haha, thank you, Leslie.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: I did recommend Visible because of their unlimited hotspot service,
Speaker 1: but and I do think they have it capped at
Speaker 1: a certain speed, but I think that should be fine.
Speaker 1: Like you said, it works for Hulu, Netflix, but that
Speaker 1: would require, like you said, a different phone completely and
Speaker 1: you know, I think that most people probably don't want
Speaker 1: to have a separate phone for just for hotspot. But
Speaker 1: you know, if you switch to Visible, you could use it.
Speaker 1: And I did recommend that, so good choice, good selection,
Speaker 1: and it's definitely. It's a very visible is really like
Speaker 1: a sleeper service because it's great for the price. I mean,
Speaker 1: let's see, if you go to the website, I mean, oh,
Speaker 1: right now they're doing oh wow, if you're a T
Speaker 1: mobile customer, you can switch and you get fifteen dollars
Speaker 1: a month for five years. Wow, that's pretty good. Now
Speaker 1: that's for their basic plan. They have two plans, so
Speaker 1: their basic plan is usually twenty five dollars a month
Speaker 1: that just includes your talking text and your data like unlimited.
Speaker 1: But if you move up to their forty five dollars
Speaker 1: a month plan, you get the premium data, faster, hot Spot,
Speaker 1: smart watch service included, and even some global roaming. So
Speaker 1: that's pretty good. I mean, this is very very good.
Speaker 1: And it's the trick is it is visible. They own
Speaker 1: Verizon owns this company. Why is this so much cheaper
Speaker 1: than Verizon. It's because there's no stores. You cannot go
Speaker 1: into a store to get help with this. You have
Speaker 1: to do everything online or through chat or whatever, and
Speaker 1: so that may turn off certain people who like to
Speaker 1: actually go to a store to do things. But if
Speaker 1: you don't mind doing it, diy, I mean, believe me,
Speaker 1: it's pretty good. Coming up this hour, We've got former
Speaker 1: Yahoo CEO Mersa Meyer. She is going to talk about
Speaker 1: her tech career, her new startup called Sunshine. She's going
Speaker 1: to talk ai and you know her from Yahoo, she
Speaker 1: was the CEO there. But also you know she was
Speaker 1: Google employee number twenty number twenty, joined in nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 1: So she has had a very long and very fruitful
Speaker 1: tech career. So we're looking forward to talking to her.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Gary in Laguna Neguel. Gary, you're on
Speaker 1: with Rich.
Speaker 3: Yes, Rich, got a couple of questions.
Speaker 1: A couple questions we charge after the first.
Speaker 3: I was just in Arizona. One of my favorite places
Speaker 3: to go to is Portal, Arizona, Okay, poking up on
Speaker 3: a map. It's far in the southeastern corner of Arizona.
Speaker 3: They used to have Horizon cell service there and they've
Speaker 3: now switched to AT and T. So how do you
Speaker 3: get your Verizon phone to work with AT and T?
Speaker 3: And I'm here on the phone right now. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm not talking to you on the phone, but I'm
Speaker 3: looking at the settings on the phone. So if I
Speaker 3: switch over to like either Global or LTE GSM UMTS,
Speaker 3: would that do any good?
Speaker 1: Not if you're are you you're a subscriber of Verizon, right, yes,
Speaker 1: well it's not going to latch onto the eight and
Speaker 1: T network unless you're unless you're a subscriber to eight
Speaker 1: and T. So do you mean the whole city changed
Speaker 1: over to EIGHTE and T. What do you mean by
Speaker 1: they switched to AT and T? Who switched?
Speaker 3: Well, see, it's well if you look at Portal, Arizona
Speaker 3: that it's a very very small community. It's in the
Speaker 3: Cherokeella Mountains. But they've had Horizon for the last twenty
Speaker 3: years and then they just switched over AT and T
Speaker 3: two years ago. When I was there, I couldn't get
Speaker 3: my phone to work anywhere, got it?
Speaker 1: Okay, So they kind of they switched their their tower.
Speaker 1: I guess they must. Maybe the city itself runs the towers,
Speaker 1: and they switched the agreement.
Speaker 3: Community not really a city, it's part of the state
Speaker 3: of Arizona, got it?
Speaker 1: But you know that you know that AT and T
Speaker 1: works there?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, matter of fact, I talked to the owner
Speaker 3: of the Portal Peak Lodge, which is the place one
Speaker 3: of the places I go to stay on and a
Speaker 3: lot of other birdwatchers see this is.
Speaker 1: A birdwatching are ah, okay.
Speaker 3: And it's it's out of the middle of nowhere, you know.
Speaker 3: But it's so nice because so many birds in the area.
Speaker 3: It's such a beautiful environment out there. It's really really
Speaker 3: a great place to go. And the last ten times
Speaker 3: I've gone there, my Verizon phone has work great. But
Speaker 3: now they switch over to AT and T. And I
Speaker 3: can tell you rich, when when I'm traveling, I'm doing
Speaker 3: my job. It's just photographing birds. There's so many places
Speaker 3: that AT and T does not work yet Verizon does.
Speaker 3: I mean the mountains on the town.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you probably know where Anso Barrigo is, right,
Speaker 1: I've heard of it. Yep.
Speaker 3: AT and T doesn't work out there, but yet Verizon
Speaker 3: works fantastic, right, And it's just an example.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And here's the thing. So I do think Verizon
Speaker 1: for rural areas works very well. The way I see
Speaker 1: the three carriers, I think T mobile urban areas like
Speaker 1: they have that covered and they're getting better at other
Speaker 1: places with the acquisition of Sprint and all that. Verizon,
Speaker 1: I feel like just overall everywhere, it's like right in
Speaker 1: the middle, it just works really well everywhere. And then
Speaker 1: AT and T is kind of like they're a mix.
Speaker 1: They're like they have some of those traditional areas that
Speaker 1: they work really well in and the rural, but they
Speaker 1: also have a lot of those urban areas. So it's
Speaker 1: kind of mix of Verizon and T Mobile with the coverage.
Speaker 1: But you know, I typically recommend people to go with
Speaker 1: the carrier that works where they work and where they live,
Speaker 1: because those are the two places you are the most. Now,
Speaker 1: if you what kind of phone do you have?
Speaker 3: Well, that's the other thing I want to ask you
Speaker 3: about is my telephone I have. I love my phone,
Speaker 3: but it just seems to be pretty outdated. It's a
Speaker 3: Samsung Galaxy Stene m okay, and when I look at
Speaker 3: all the modern phones out there, Rich, I mean, put
Speaker 3: yourself in my position. You're wearing a photo best. You
Speaker 3: need a fairly small phone because I carry teleconverters, I
Speaker 3: carry a bottle of water on me carry my phone.
Speaker 3: And you know these phones that are made nowadays, I
Speaker 3: mean these things are gargant. One well, then begin to
Speaker 3: fit in.
Speaker 1: I will tell you, I think the phone for you
Speaker 1: is the Pixel nine, not the Pro. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you want the Pro for the Zoom, but I think
Speaker 1: the Pixel nine is incredible. It's a great value, it's small,
Speaker 1: it's pocketable. I've been carrying around the Pixel nine Pro,
Speaker 1: which they also made in a small version this year,
Speaker 1: so I know that we have that trend of the bigger,
Speaker 1: giant phone screens, which is great if you want to
Speaker 1: watch movies and stuff. But I think that the Pixel
Speaker 1: nine would be a great upgrade from this phone. With
Speaker 1: that said.
Speaker 3: Pixel nine, yeah that take a small micros media or
Speaker 3: because I use that all the time. Yeah, no phones
Speaker 3: med cards whenever I have different photo students.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no phones are going to do that. None of
Speaker 1: the new modern phones have the SD card slot at all.
Speaker 1: But you could use an SD card reader on the
Speaker 1: bottom of the phone, so you can just grab a
Speaker 1: on Amazon an SD card reader like a micro SD
Speaker 1: card USBC reader. It's like, you know, under ten bucks plug.
Speaker 3: But see that that stuff and I have to have
Speaker 3: it externally. Look to the phone. I want to have
Speaker 3: an internal into the phone.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, you're that's yeah, that's going to be tricky
Speaker 1: these days because the phones just do not have But look,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna stick with your phone and you want
Speaker 1: to switch to AT and T, the thing you have
Speaker 1: to do is go to the website on AT and
Speaker 1: T this phone. Maybe so nowadays, nowadays, every pretty much
Speaker 1: every phone is compatible with all the networks. I would
Speaker 1: say a majority of the phones just work with everything.
Speaker 1: But back in the day, and especially with this phone
Speaker 1: that you have is a little bit older, it may
Speaker 1: be specifically just Verizon bands. So if you want it to
Speaker 1: consider switching to AT and T, go to their website,
Speaker 1: search a compatibility checker. So search what I search here
Speaker 1: AT and T compatibility checker and then you click that
Speaker 1: and it will say check compatibility. And basically you have
Speaker 1: to type in your phone's IMEI number and it will
Speaker 1: tell you how to do that. And so once you
Speaker 1: type that in, it will tell you if your phone
Speaker 1: is you know, compatible or not, and it just needs
Speaker 1: to have those certain bands. But they will be able
Speaker 1: to tell you that pretty simply if you go to
Speaker 1: their website and you can do that. So if you
Speaker 1: want to check to see and switch to AT and
Speaker 1: T and keep your phone that you have, that'd be
Speaker 1: the easiest way to do this. But you know, that's
Speaker 1: kind of the main thing. It's interesting they've got a
Speaker 1: thing on their website that says the phones that are
Speaker 1: approved for their network. Samsung, let's see, you've got the
Speaker 1: S ten e and I'm looking on here Samsung S
Speaker 1: ten e. Yeah, I see the S ten on there
Speaker 1: S ten plus S ten e. So they've got a
Speaker 1: couple of them on there that look like they are compatible.
Speaker 1: But again, go to the website do that compatibility checker
Speaker 1: with the IEMEI and that's the way to do it.
Speaker 1: Thanks for the call, Gary, And it sounds like you've
Speaker 1: got quite the fun there in portal checking out those birds.
Speaker 1: My brother is a burder what do you call it,
Speaker 1: a birdwatcher, but I think the pixel off also if
Speaker 1: you're taking pictures of birds, the pixel I just saw
Speaker 1: they just added it to my phone, the new super zoom,
Speaker 1: like the old rez zoom thing that you can now
Speaker 1: zoom in on your picture. Remember like on the TV
Speaker 1: shows where they show like the police like zooming in
Speaker 1: on the or the CSI like zooming in on something
Speaker 1: and it's like pixelated, but then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: it like gets clear, like a license plate. Well now
Speaker 1: they've added that feature to Google Photos and I can't
Speaker 1: wait to try it out. I just saw it pop
Speaker 1: up my phone. I'm like, oh, that's cool. Before we
Speaker 1: go to break, Samsung bring in AI to more devices.
Speaker 1: So if you have an older Samsung S twenty three series,
Speaker 1: the z Fold five, z Flip five, you are getting
Speaker 1: an update that includes these new AI features, the composer,
Speaker 1: the sketch to image, auto zoom, all kinds of features.
Speaker 1: So if you have one of these phones, the S
Speaker 1: twenty three or the Folds from last year, go ahead
Speaker 1: and check that software update. This is one UI six
Speaker 1: point one point one. So Samsung just on a roll
Speaker 1: with bringing these AI features to like all of their
Speaker 1: back catalog of phones. I love that you don't need
Speaker 1: to spend money and your phone feels like it's got
Speaker 1: cool new fe eighty to eight rich one oh one
Speaker 1: eight eight eight seven four two four one zero one.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why earthquake alerts are going national if
Speaker 1: you have an Android phone, coming out. Welcome back to
Speaker 1: rich On Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out with you
Speaker 1: talking technology.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: Android earthquake alerts. We have them here in the LA area,
Speaker 1: also in California, Oregon, and Washington, but now they're going national.
Speaker 1: So if you have an Android phone, Google is expanding
Speaker 1: these life potentially life saving alerts. Across all fifty states.
Speaker 1: So they're using the accelerometers in Android phones to detect earthquakes.
Speaker 1: So all of the Android phones in the US are
Speaker 1: now little earthquake detectors. Uses crowdsource data to determine if
Speaker 1: an earthquake is happening, and if it is, it will
Speaker 1: alert other users in that area. So there's two types
Speaker 1: of notifications. One is light shaking, which gives you a
Speaker 1: small pop up on this and if it's moderate to
Speaker 1: extreme shaking, you'll get a full screen take action alert
Speaker 1: with safety instructions. And they say even a few seconds
Speaker 1: of warning can help people move to safer areas. They've
Speaker 1: been working with experts. Google has to improve the accuracy.
Speaker 1: But this is really great because in California, Oregon, and
Speaker 1: Washington they actually have like little censors in the ground
Speaker 1: and that system even took a while to get up
Speaker 1: and running on people's phones, and that works on iPhone Android.
Speaker 1: But this is really neat because now we have earthquake
Speaker 1: alerts everywhere because earthquakes, I don't know if you've noticed,
Speaker 1: but not just California, Like there's been earthquakes in various
Speaker 1: states across the nation, and so I love that they
Speaker 1: did this, and so if you go in your Android phone,
Speaker 1: just make sure this is turned on. It's under the
Speaker 1: Google settings and like usually under emergency there. So kind
Speaker 1: of cool. Let's go to Maria in Los Angeles. Maria,
Speaker 1: you're on with rich Hi.
Speaker 11: Can you hear me?
Speaker 1: I hear you?
Speaker 11: Uh yeah, thank you so much for picking my call.
Speaker 11: I'm calling because I would like to ask you if
Speaker 11: you can suggest me a wait to control my thirteen
Speaker 11: year old I iPhone. He I have an Android. I
Speaker 11: have an iPhone. I'm sorry, I have an Android ten
Speaker 11: and he he used to have a NiFe an Android,
Speaker 11: but when he when I and I have the risk
Speaker 11: to an I iPhone and now the Google apps friends,
Speaker 11: that control doesn't work anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's not gonna work.
Speaker 11: I mean I tried the Tea mobile app. It doesn't
Speaker 11: work either. I do have an iPod because I know
Speaker 11: sometimes Apple communicate with.
Speaker 1: Apple, right, yeah, but not the iPod.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So to manage to manage screen time, that's what you
Speaker 1: need to do. So you have to manage the screen
Speaker 1: time on there. Uh. And what you can do is
Speaker 1: you have actually have to you would have to get
Speaker 1: his phone obviously with his approval and set this up
Speaker 1: from his phone. So you can go into his phone
Speaker 1: into settings and you would set a pin code number one,
Speaker 1: and then you would and then you would go in
Speaker 1: there and kind of change all the settings. So how
Speaker 1: long he could spend on certain websites, restricting certain websites,
Speaker 1: you know, whatever it is. But basically it's all kind
Speaker 1: of controlled from screen time and your your pin code
Speaker 1: that you set is the key to unlock it. So,
Speaker 1: but you'd have to use his device to do it
Speaker 1: if you don't have another device. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you can do it from the website, like if you
Speaker 1: went to iCloud dot com. I don't think so. I
Speaker 1: think you have to do it from his device. So
Speaker 1: or if you had an iPhone or an iPad and
Speaker 1: he was part of your family on there like the
Speaker 1: iCloud family, you could do it from there. But really,
Speaker 1: realistically you have to use his phone to do this.
Speaker 10: I have a knife, I have a night bus.
Speaker 11: I try to do it through the family sharing, I think, yeah.
Speaker 1: Are you saying iPad? I'm sorry, did you say iPad?
Speaker 11: I have a night bud?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Oh iPad? Okay, yes, you should be able to do
Speaker 1: it through there.
Speaker 11: Yeah, but the part is that every time I do it,
Speaker 11: for some reason, he gets the notification or input the
Speaker 11: code and everything, but all of a sudden it disappeared.
Speaker 11: It said, uh, you know, his name was removed from
Speaker 11: the family Sharing, but he did not do anything. So h.
Speaker 1: That's tricky. Well, he has to be on the family
Speaker 1: Sharing for it to work, for these things to take
Speaker 1: to take effect. Now I'm not sure why it's saying
Speaker 1: he's being removed from there. That's something that you got
Speaker 1: to figure out. Maybe go to the Apple store and
Speaker 1: see what they say. But you he shouldn't. Once you
Speaker 1: add him, he has to accept that. Then he's part
Speaker 1: of your family and then you can add those those
Speaker 1: screen time controls to his device. If you want to
Speaker 1: just do it manually, you can just go to his
Speaker 1: device and say, hey, look, we're going to set this
Speaker 1: up on your device, and you just set it up
Speaker 1: directly there and then he doesn't have to be part
Speaker 1: of the family Sharing. So that's a little bit of
Speaker 1: an easier way if you want to skip the family Share.
Speaker 1: But the only issue with that is then you can
Speaker 1: check things on your iPad and you know, give you
Speaker 1: all that that control. There are third party programs that
Speaker 1: you can use if you want it, something like Barkbark
Speaker 1: dot us. That's another family control program that you can use.
Speaker 1: But I will tell you, with my kids, you know,
Speaker 1: this stuff is tricky. It's not easy, it's not straightforward,
Speaker 1: it's not simple, and a lot of times the kids
Speaker 1: are a little bit smarter than us when it comes
Speaker 1: to this stuff. So you got to be aware when
Speaker 1: you're typing in your pass code that they those little
Speaker 1: eyes are sometimes watching it and they will change settings
Speaker 1: without you knowing. So just keep in mind all of
Speaker 1: those things. But if it's if it's the problem of
Speaker 1: you understand how to set it up, but it's just
Speaker 1: not letting you add him as the family member, then
Speaker 1: I would go ahead and take it to the Apple
Speaker 1: Store and say, hey, look, I'm trying to add my kid.
Speaker 1: We're trying to do the right thing. It's just not working.
Speaker 1: And see if there's some kind of block on your
Speaker 1: account or something that you have to enable on there
Speaker 1: to make that work. But otherwise, if you want to
Speaker 1: skip all that, you can just go directly to his
Speaker 1: device and say, hey, look we're gonna set this up,
Speaker 1: make that pin code, and there there you go. Thanks
Speaker 1: for the call, Maria, give me an update on the website.
Speaker 1: Rich on Tech dot TV. Hit contact and let me
Speaker 1: know if you get that sorted out. Coming up, we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk to former Yahoo CEO Marissa Meyer. She is
Speaker 1: discussing her tech career, her new startup, and AI. It's
Speaker 1: all right here on rich on Tech. Welcome back to
Speaker 1: rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out with you,
Speaker 1: talking technology the website for the show rich on Tech
Speaker 1: dot TV. Yeah, it's been a heatwave here in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: so we're playing all songs inspired by the heat. Joining
Speaker 1: me now, former Yahoo CEO Marissa Meyer, also one of
Speaker 1: Google's earliest employees, now with her own startup called Sunshine.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Marissa, thank you very much for
Speaker 1: having me. Very exciting. Let's talk about first off, the
Speaker 1: early days I want to hear about Google. So I
Speaker 1: mean back, I mean you joined in like nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: nine or somewhere around there, so I mean people were
Speaker 1: just learning that word for the first time. What were
Speaker 1: your thoughts about joining that company?
Speaker 8: Well, when I first started, there were just seven people,
Speaker 8: and instead of a conference table, they had a pool,
Speaker 8: a ping pong table, and so the office was you know,
Speaker 8: pretty messy. They were also working on building computers that
Speaker 8: would eventually become prototypes for what they put in the
Speaker 8: data centers. But they had a real vision for how
Speaker 8: search could change the Internet and could change how all
Speaker 8: this live our everyday lives. And so it was really
Speaker 8: an exciting and interesting time.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's incredible, And it was it fun there? I mean,
Speaker 1: did you have a good time? And you started some
Speaker 1: pretty good projects there and did some pretty great things.
Speaker 8: I had an amazing time at Google. Wonderful place to work.
Speaker 8: You know, for so many of my colleagues, you know,
Speaker 8: they are lifelong friends because we just had such a
Speaker 8: set of formative experiences and I'm really proud of what
Speaker 8: we've built and how it's helped shape everyday lives and technology.
Speaker 1: And then talk about the transition to Yahoo. What made
Speaker 1: you go to Yahoo and kind of what was your
Speaker 1: mission there?
Speaker 8: Well, there, I got a call from a recruiter who
Speaker 8: was helping the board try and identify the next CEO.
Speaker 8: And I wasn't looking to leave. I was just at
Speaker 8: the end of my first trimester with my son, and
Speaker 8: I had, you know, my plan for what I wanted
Speaker 8: to accomplish before my maternity leave and my plan for
Speaker 8: a long maternity leave, and I got this call, but
Speaker 8: I have to say, Yeah, who's a company I always admired,
Speaker 8: And it was one that was really a company that
Speaker 8: we all looked up to at Google. You know, they
Speaker 8: were a really important partner for us for our early days,
Speaker 8: a very spat after partner, and you know, the role
Speaker 8: from a product perspective really embodied a lot of the
Speaker 8: products I had already worked on, search, mail, news, maps,
Speaker 8: you know, social, mobile, and so I was really excited
Speaker 8: to take my learnings for my time at Google and
Speaker 8: apply them in a new way at a new company,
Speaker 8: especially one that I admired, and so I knew it
Speaker 8: would be a hard job. At the same time, it
Speaker 8: was one I was really drawn to. I really value learning,
Speaker 8: and I love working with smart and nice people. And
Speaker 8: I think there are also a lot of smart and
Speaker 8: nice people at Yahoo as well as at Google. And
Speaker 8: so it was a challenge that I ultimately, you know,
Speaker 8: took us some rearranging in terms of plans on my side,
Speaker 8: but it was a challenge I was excited to take on.
Speaker 1: So a little bit of trivia for myself, I actually
Speaker 1: got a job offer at Yahoo many many years ago,
Speaker 1: and I remember getting the welcome kit in the mail
Speaker 1: and they would you would open it up and it
Speaker 1: would go Yahoo when you opened like the little box.
Speaker 1: It was like one of those greeting cards you get,
Speaker 1: you know that has like the music inside. That's what
Speaker 1: they did, and I was like so impressed with that.
Speaker 1: I have one of those.
Speaker 8: I also there's a button, a yodel button where you
Speaker 8: can press it and actually has like six different modes
Speaker 8: so you can hear the Yahoo yodel like six different ways.
Speaker 1: And I still have my T shirt. They also sent
Speaker 1: a T shirt in that packet. I mean, it was
Speaker 1: like a very thorough packet of like welcome to Yahoo,
Speaker 1: even though I hadn't really accepted the job yet. I
Speaker 1: don't know if they whatever. Anyway, it was kind of
Speaker 1: the offer situation. Yeah, didn't end up working there, but
Speaker 1: it was great and it was fun to tour the campus.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 1: It was back in the day when like, you know,
Speaker 1: you go to these campuses and they're just like, you know,
Speaker 1: the volleyball courts, and it was just so cool. So
Speaker 1: now you've got something new. You're you're doing a startup
Speaker 1: called Sunshine Tell me what this is all about now.
Speaker 8: Well, at someshine, we're really focused on how to we
Speaker 8: take cutting it edge technology, especially AI, and apply it
Speaker 8: to everyday tasks. So I've always worked in the consumer space.
Speaker 8: I like to take everyday tests and make them easier
Speaker 8: and make them better. And so we've been focused, and
Speaker 8: we started off the company we were really focused on
Speaker 8: contacts and management of birthdays and important events, and most
Speaker 8: recently we have started working in the photo space with
Speaker 8: photos and events. Basically, how do you share with a
Speaker 8: group of ten twenty fifty people, Because we think one
Speaker 8: to one sharing works really well, and we think one
Speaker 8: to many broadcasting photos works really well. All at Instagram
Speaker 8: we find that intermediate case doesn't work that well, and
Speaker 8: there's places where we think that a lot of what
Speaker 8: AI can do in terms of curating photos, suggesting photos
Speaker 8: that you may want to share based on your patterns
Speaker 8: is something that really needs a lot of improvement.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's always a challenge when like, let's say
Speaker 1: it's like a group birthday party or something you're like, oh, everyone,
Speaker 1: let's pull these photos together. Like if you took some
Speaker 1: great photos and people are just they argue on are
Speaker 1: they disagree on how to do that, whether it's you know,
Speaker 1: a shared album or you know, some people want to
Speaker 1: use air drops, some people are Android, some people want
Speaker 1: to text the photos. It's just a mess every time.
Speaker 1: So how does Shine make that easier?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 8: So we have an app as Our app is available
Speaker 8: on iOS and on Android, which is one of the
Speaker 8: big friction points in a group that size. As soon
Speaker 8: as you get to ten people, you definitely have users
Speaker 8: of both platforms. And from there we you set up
Speaker 8: an album and you can declare an event and a place,
Speaker 8: and you can decide do you want to explicitly share
Speaker 8: photos or do you want to share them through what
Speaker 8: we call magic mode. And what magic mode does is
Speaker 8: it looks at a photo, it tries to understand if
Speaker 8: it's the type of photo someone would want to share,
Speaker 8: and asks us of people in it it seems really
Speaker 8: visually interesting, and you'd either suggest that you share it
Speaker 8: or if you're in magic mode, it automatically shares it.
Speaker 8: So it works really well for events and gets togethers.
Speaker 8: And also I found his work worked really well on
Speaker 8: trips and travel. So those are some of the use
Speaker 8: cases working on now. But we're also working on expanding
Speaker 8: the types of use cases that we cover.
Speaker 1: And I do, like, I know the Sunshine Contacts has
Speaker 1: been around for a while, but I really I don't
Speaker 1: know if you remember this company back in the day,
Speaker 1: it used to be called Trello. I think it was
Speaker 1: that they would like, Yeah, so it kind of reminds
Speaker 1: me of like the magic of that, where like it
Speaker 1: just kind of finds the information from your contacts in
Speaker 1: your emails and things like that and like kind of
Speaker 1: puts in that missing information. So how's that going. Are
Speaker 1: people finding that pretty handy or what?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 8: I think we have the highest rated Contacts app in
Speaker 8: the app Store that's also available on iOS and Android.
Speaker 8: And what we do is we take your contacts from
Speaker 8: your phone, We ask for permission to your email, We
Speaker 8: interface with Gmail and Outlook and a few other carriers,
Speaker 8: and then we do as we look through there, figure
Speaker 8: out who have you emailed back and forth with, what
Speaker 8: to signature information is there, and then we cross correlated
Speaker 8: with publicly available information from the white Pages and other
Speaker 8: sources LinkedIn, and we actually give you a much more
Speaker 8: comprehensive contact card, so you end up with really nice
Speaker 8: complete contexts that stitch together phone number, email address, your job,
Speaker 8: your role, all those different pieces, and we even show
Speaker 8: you the last email you exchanged with that person to
Speaker 8: give you more context.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so much easier than trying to search in
Speaker 1: your email for like a cell phone number, like whenever
Speaker 1: I need contact info for someone, And I like how
Speaker 1: it also tells you, like which email address is like
Speaker 1: the most recent or the most up to date versus
Speaker 1: like an old one that you might have for them,
Speaker 1: But it still shows you. And by the way, I
Speaker 1: meant to say Placo, I don't know if that was
Speaker 1: the company Plaxo.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Plaxo Paso. You know, I become kind of a
Speaker 8: historian on contact apps in Silicon Valley, and Paxo and
Speaker 8: Keen really reigned supreme from two thousand to two thousand
Speaker 8: and three. And then it will say they kind of
Speaker 8: We kind of went through the Winter of Contacts where
Speaker 8: not many people worked on them for a lot on time,
Speaker 8: and then Microsoft and Apple standardized the format for contacts
Speaker 8: around twenty ten twenty twelve, and that made it much
Speaker 8: easier to standardize contacts, But nobody really did a lot
Speaker 8: of work, and we thought was interesting is we did
Speaker 8: more than a three thousand user surveys, and every single
Speaker 8: person reported that their contacts were in terrible shape. And
Speaker 8: the other thing we found, which is one of the
Speaker 8: reasons why we found it would be so important to say,
Speaker 8: tell you what you've used most recently, is about one
Speaker 8: in five contacts on your phone. About nineteen percent of
Speaker 8: contacts on people's phones are obsolete. Yeah, and so our scale.
Speaker 8: So if you tried to go and use that phone
Speaker 8: number or that email address right now, you actually wouldn't
Speaker 8: reach the person you hoped to reach.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's always a problem. Then you're trying to scramble
Speaker 1: and figure out, you know, where this stuff is. And
Speaker 1: that's why I like this. It's I'm trying to see
Speaker 1: how many Usually it doesn't it tell you, like how
Speaker 1: many contacts? Oh yeah, here we go. So I have
Speaker 1: seven three hundred and eighty six total contacts. Sunshine improved
Speaker 1: six thousand in three hundred and sixty two. That's a
Speaker 1: lot of people. One of these days I'll go through
Speaker 1: those and organize well.
Speaker 8: And one of the core of thoughts for Sunshine is
Speaker 8: that we really want to be help people be thoughtful.
Speaker 8: And so the old adage of you know, if a
Speaker 8: tree falls in the forest. It doesn't make a sound
Speaker 8: if you email or call someone and you're thinking about them.
Speaker 8: They don't know that you're thinking about them if you
Speaker 8: don't reach them. So making sure that contacts really work
Speaker 8: well as something that's foundational, because we also knew that
Speaker 8: we wanted to build Sunshine into a portfolio company where
Speaker 8: we have a set of apps so will be more
Speaker 8: popular than others. But ultimately we really wanted to get
Speaker 8: to the space that we're starting to work in now
Speaker 8: around photos, events, groups, those kinds of tasks that we
Speaker 8: think have been you know, less less of focus in
Speaker 8: recent years and really trying to ease the friction there.
Speaker 8: But to actually do events and groups and even photos
Speaker 8: arguably well, you actually need to have your contacts in
Speaker 8: resonably good shape.
Speaker 1: I want to get sure thoughts on AI real quick.
Speaker 1: We only have about a minute. But I'm curious, Like
Speaker 1: I mean, this is something I'm sure you've thought about
Speaker 1: for many, many years, but now of course the public
Speaker 1: is getting their taste of it with you know, all
Speaker 1: these new AI tools. Is it going to change everything
Speaker 1: in the next couple of years or what.
Speaker 8: For certain, I've been fascinated by AI since my cologyears.
Speaker 8: Both of my degrees are actually in artificial intelligence, and
Speaker 8: I think that it's wonderful to see you having this moment,
Speaker 8: and it won't be without some challenges, but overall, I'm
Speaker 8: incredibly optimistic in terms of the type of power and
Speaker 8: creativity is going to unleash for people.
Speaker 1: And your advice to not just young women but anyone
Speaker 1: interested in tech, still a good time to do that
Speaker 1: or what?
Speaker 6: For sure?
Speaker 8: I really think that technology is just such a wonderful field.
Speaker 8: There's just so many If you like ideas and you
Speaker 8: like learning and always having the challenge of learning something new,
Speaker 8: it's wonderful to have a career in tech.
Speaker 1: All right, we're going to leave it there. Mersa Meyer,
Speaker 1: early employee at Google, former Yahoo CEO, and now doing
Speaker 1: her own thing at Sunshine dot com. Check it out.
Speaker 1: They've got a couple apps for photo sharing, contact management,
Speaker 1: and also birthdays. Thanks so much for joining me today, Marsa.
Speaker 8: Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: Rich.
Speaker 1: All right, coming up, we've got your favorite segment. It
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Speaker 1: The website if you want to link to sunshine. By
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. What a great interview.
Speaker 1: Just reflecting on Marissa Mersa Meyer. Oh my gosh, what
Speaker 1: a career Google, Yahoo, doing your own thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just incredible. Okay, before we get to the feedback,
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