1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: I think that this conflict will certainly come to the 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: end in the next few weeks, could be sooner than that, 3 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: but the conflict will come to the end in the 4 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: next few weeks, and we'll see a rebound in supplies 5 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: and a pushing down of prices after that. But yes, 6 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: we were very aware and we would have short term disruption. 7 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: We would cause a little bit of increased prices on Americans. 8 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: Prices today are still far below what they were in 9 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: the Biden administration, where they were begging, bartering, and bribing 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: Iran to behave better. We had five dollars gasoline in 11 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: the middle of the Biden administration. We hope we don't 12 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: get there this time, but at least this increase in 13 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: gasoline prices is for something that's going to change the 14 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: geopolitical situation in the world forever. 15 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: So there you have Energy Secretary Chris Wrights laying out 16 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 2: a few things. Won the timeline that the White House, 17 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 2: Trump himself has been hammering, and I just said that 18 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: I think that that's probably going to be the timeline, 19 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: which is a few weeks from now. I think it's 20 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: going to be two week or less. We'll see, but 21 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 2: there's an artificial disruption and supply that is happening right 22 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: now because of that, Energy Secretary sounds like he's confident 23 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: that supply will come back online prices will start to 24 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: drop from there. That is certainly the hope, and I 25 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: think that that is very possible. 26 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 3: Clay. 27 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 2: The question that we look at now, though, is what 28 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 2: exactly what exactly the end state here is supposed to 29 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 2: look like it's starting to. 30 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 3: Feel more and more like. 31 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: The destruction of Iran's military and then just walking away 32 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: and saying we can do that again if we want 33 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: to is the goal here. There is not really much 34 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: talk of regime change. John Fetterman, the Senator, weighed in 35 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: on this one and the state of things in Iran. 36 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 2: This is cut three. Listen to Senator Fean. 37 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 4: I largely agree with what the president say that Iran 38 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 4: has essentially been defeated, and why don't the Western media 39 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 4: is just demand that Iran provide proof of life of 40 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,839 Speaker 4: the Ayatola because I think the Iranians are doing kind 41 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 4: of like a weekend at Iatola's and they're trying to 42 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 4: pretend this guy is functional or even alive at this point, 43 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 4: and I think we just called him out and realize 44 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 4: that they're a nation that's been effectively defeated and they 45 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 4: don't have any leadership. They're unwilling to even provide proof 46 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 4: to refute that. Overall, I think it's entirely appropriate to 47 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 4: remind the world that if you want their oil, you know, 48 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 4: you need to help us to reopen the straits. 49 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: Weekend at Iotola's, he says, Clay, maybe he's a listener. 50 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 5: We need to at Bruce er ally, do we have 51 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 5: an invite recently that we've given to John Fetterman. 52 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 3: I don't know if we have. 53 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 5: We should extend one to him as well to come 54 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 5: on in the program because he's making a lot of 55 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 5: sense and the most recent data that I've seen. Buck 56 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 5: says that Fetterman now is more popular with Republicans in 57 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 5: Pennsylvania than he is with Democrats. So we should definitely 58 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 5: reach out to him, Producer Ali will and invite him 59 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 5: on the program. As you were hearing President Trump, Buck, 60 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 5: you're talking about like one of the long range goals. 61 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 5: He said that based on the numbers, we have seen 62 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 5: a ninety five percent reduction in Iran's drone attacks and 63 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 5: a ninety percent reduction in their missile attacks. And he said, quote, 64 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 5: they don't have many missiles left at this point, and 65 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 5: so essentially they are wiped out. And I think the 66 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 5: question is who is their leader. We said earlier that 67 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 5: there were reports. There's actually been two reports. One is 68 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 5: that the much Tabah had to go to Europe for 69 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 5: months to be treated for impotence so that he could 70 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 5: have children. Just leaving it here for a moment. Now 71 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 5: they're saying that he was gay. Is it possible that 72 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 5: the impotence just was with the women. My point on 73 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 5: this is, I think more and more there is a 74 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 5: likelihood that he is unable to be leader and that 75 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 5: they are just using him as a figurehead now, Buck, 76 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 5: I don't know if you saw this. There's even some 77 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 5: reports that he's not in Iran, that he is potentially 78 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 5: in Russia, that he may be in China, that he 79 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 5: may be in a different country right now, and that 80 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 5: Iran is using him as a figurehead. We still have 81 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 5: not heard his voice. We haven't seen any video from 82 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 5: him at all. They released a statement, They showed up 83 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 5: for a celebratory raising ascension I guess of him to 84 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 5: the leadership of Iran and danced around with a cardboard 85 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 5: cutout of him. None of these things inspire confidence that 86 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 5: he is okay. And I again used to do all 87 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 5: this analysis. I'm sure there's how many people do you 88 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 5: think are working in the CIA right now on whether 89 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 5: Little Mo is still alive? Like if a thousand? Like 90 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 5: how many people are looking at every single aspect of 91 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 5: evidence out there and writing up reports on this. How 92 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 5: big would that group be right now? 93 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 3: You think, I mean it's I don't say it's a thousands, 94 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 3: a lot. 95 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: It's a lot of people that are going to be 96 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 2: pouring over all of the different collection that the intell 97 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: agencies have access to to try to figure this out. 98 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 2: But again, even if he's let's say he's dead, okay, 99 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: so what so? 100 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 3: Then what right? 101 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: And this is the next step still is not clear. We 102 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 2: don't have an opposition that looks like they're within takeover, 103 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,239 Speaker 2: and we haven't heard about any so called moderate from 104 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 2: within the existing governance infrastructure of Iran that could maybe 105 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: be a more moderate future for the count. So I 106 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 2: just feel like we're we're gonna we're taking away all 107 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: the I Teller's toys, are blown up, all their stuff, 108 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: We are killing thousands of their soldiers in this process, 109 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: I might add, people don't really talk about that, but 110 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 2: there are there are people on these ships, there are 111 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: people operating these trucks and these manpads and such. 112 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: So we are we are just to. 113 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: Know when when people say it's not really war, we're 114 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: blowing up thousands of their soldiers, this is a war. 115 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 2: Let's let's always make sure that we have that obligation 116 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: to speak truthfully about this stuff. It's not a boots 117 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: on the ground all in war, but it's a war. 118 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 2: If somebody else was doing this to us, we would 119 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 2: certainly think of it as a war. So we're in 120 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: a in a short term war where they were on 121 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: a conflict and and I think that we're gonna, like 122 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 2: I said, Trump is gonna wake up one day and 123 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: look at the look at the numbers and the charts 124 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 2: and everything else and say, all right, we've we've punished 125 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: them enough. Now let's see if they want to be 126 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 2: more reasonable going forward. I will add I don't think 127 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 2: they will be more reasonable going for This is the 128 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: other part of this, right, this is an intractable problem. 129 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: It's like dealing with North Korea. Everything that you would 130 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: think would work on a country that has even the 131 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 2: most baseline reason morality, all these kinds of things. If 132 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: you look at it from the perspective of, well, of 133 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: course they should do that, because we would do that. 134 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 2: At No, it's not how they do things. It's certainly 135 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: not how they do things in Iran. And from the 136 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: leadership perspective, and you know, I think everyone should just 137 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: gauge their expectations with this in mind. There's no opposition 138 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 2: faction that has emerged. We're not seeing any protests on 139 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 2: the streets or anything like that at all. And yeah, 140 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 2: I think Trump's gonna wrap this up. We're gonna say 141 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 2: their military is essentially gone, and we'll see what he 142 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: will say. And I mean this like a quote. Trump 143 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 2: will be like, we'll see what happens. That's going to 144 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 2: be where this ends. 145 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 5: I look, the message that we have sent to Iran is, 146 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 5: first of all, we got to figure out who the 147 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 5: leader is. And I think it's not a surprise that 148 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 5: they don't want us to know who the leader is 149 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 5: because they're aware that we could kill whoever the leader is, 150 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 5: and we have established that that is the fact. I 151 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 5: think one of the challenges going forward for Iran will 152 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 5: be they now know that we can take out their 153 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 5: leadership whenever we want. And so how do you stand 154 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 5: up in any way to anyone in the United States 155 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 5: or Israel with that knowledge. I'll also point this out. 156 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 5: There are reports, and I think this is super significant 157 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 5: and it has not been talked about enough. There are 158 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 5: reports that Saudi Arabia's leader is calling President Trump and 159 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 5: saying keep hitting them. This is nbs. He is the leader, 160 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 5: forty three forty four year old, relatively young leader of 161 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 5: Saudi Arabia, the crown prince there, who has effectively taken 162 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 5: on the power. This is not a United States and 163 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 5: Israel against the Middle East war. The Middle Eastern powers, 164 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 5: Saudi Arabia, the UAE Qatar, the ones that actually have 165 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 5: developed and functional economies, they're all saying hit Iran. So 166 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 5: what I think is going to be the legacy that 167 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 5: comes out of this is with Iran newtered, with Iran 168 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 5: without any significant weaponry. 169 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 3: I think the. 170 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 5: UAE Bahrain, all of these different places, including Saudi Arabia, 171 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 5: buck are going to sign on Saudi Arabia in particular, 172 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 5: who has not done it yet, to the Abraham Accords, 173 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 5: and we're going to see a level of peace start 174 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 5: to emerge in the Middle East that frankly we haven't 175 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 5: seen in generations, and that peace is not going to 176 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 5: be based on Arab versus jew It's going to be 177 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 5: based on countries that want to have functional, growing economies 178 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 5: and countries that don't. You know, the real part that 179 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 5: I think has to be galling to Iran is if 180 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 5: you study Middle Eastern history, Iran was one of the 181 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 5: economic powers of this region for hundreds of years. Now 182 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 5: they've been overwhelmingly surpassed by Saudi Arabia and Qatar and 183 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 5: the UAE, certainly Israel. And if you're a proud educated 184 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:13,359 Speaker 5: member of Iran's you know, middle class, which is fairly substantial, 185 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 5: don't you have to look around and ask what you've 186 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 5: gotten for the last forty seven years? Do you feel like, hey, 187 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 5: life is better now than it was before the Islamic 188 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 5: Republic came into power. The one thing they sold buck 189 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 5: was we are a military power and we can punch 190 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 5: above our weight, and they just got completely defanged and 191 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 5: almost no time at all. What have you actually gotten 192 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 5: that's positive after forty seven years? 193 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 2: This is one of the very sad but true things 194 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: about authoritarian regimes and why they're so intractable. They can 195 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: rely on the phobia of the population, the extreme fear 196 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 2: of the population. Who wants to be the person clay 197 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 2: from the Iranian educated classes, you know, not part of 198 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 2: the in the government's and government infrastructure, who ends up 199 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 2: the first one dangling from a crane by their neck 200 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: in the neighborhood. 201 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 3: It's very tough. 202 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, people have families, People want to live, they don't 203 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: want to die, and you know, you're thinking about this, 204 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 2: where does this go? This was the one of the 205 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: huge problems we had in Afghanistan. Was even even the 206 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 2: Afghans who were brave enough and there were many of 207 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 2: them to fight alongside Americans at different times against the Taliban, 208 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 2: they're like, you guys, you guys aren't gonna leave us. 209 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 3: At some point you have our back, right and then you're. 210 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 2: Gonna stay and you're gonna you're gonna make sure that 211 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 2: this we we were in this fight till the end. 212 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 3: Right. 213 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can imagine with the Iranians right now, Okay, 214 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 2: we're blowing up the military. There's still a lot of 215 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 2: bad guys with Ak forty seven's and probably uh, you know, 216 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: scimitars or something like it, machetes, walking around the neighborhood 217 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: and this is what what are we offering on that? 218 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 2: And the answer is not a whole heck of a lot. 219 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 2: So I don't see this changing, this on the ground 220 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: reality changing in any meaningful way, which means that we're 221 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 2: in a little bit of, like I said, the moograss 222 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 2: phenomenon with the Iranian military, We're gonna blow up all 223 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 2: their stuff and now whatever they do. Also, if when 224 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 2: they get enough stuff back, meaning military capability or even 225 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 2: just paramilitary capability, terrorist capability essentially, they decide to hit us, 226 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: they'll be like, well, yeah, you guys blew up all 227 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: of our ships and all of our stuff, and you 228 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: know you can see how this is gonna go right. 229 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 3: We're not. 230 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 2: We're not in a place where I, like you, are 231 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 2: more optimistic about the long term prospects here than I'm 232 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 2: very optimistic about Venezuela and have it all along, to 233 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 2: be clear, very optimistic. 234 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 3: I think it was the right move, a great move, Huran. 235 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 2: I'm still sitting here like I want to see what 236 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 2: the I think I know what the end state is 237 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 2: and we can go back and play this in a 238 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 2: few weeks. It's gonna be Trump saying, all right, we 239 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: destroyed their military. We showed them what's up. Maybe we'll 240 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: talk in the future. 241 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 3: That's it. 242 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 2: I think that's where this is headache. I don't see 243 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 2: it heading some other way. 244 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 3: I think it's one. Yeah, this is an interesting conversation. 245 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 5: I'm optimistic only in the sense of it's one thing 246 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 5: for Israel to do well. It's another thing for the 247 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 5: United States to do well. A lot of times, it's 248 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 5: when people who are similar to you that start doing 249 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 5: well where you really start to question the decision making 250 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 5: that you have embraced. Right, It's one thing if Elon 251 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 5: Musk gets richer. It's another thing if a guy you 252 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 5: went to school with is suddenly a billionaire and you're 253 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 5: looking around saying, wait a minute, what did he did? 254 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 5: We had made the same grades everything else. Iran's neighborhood, 255 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 5: the Middle East, A lot of these countries are thriving. 256 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 257 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 5: They used to look down on Saudi Arabia, they used 258 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 5: to look down on Katar, they used to look down 259 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 5: on you know, Bahrain, all these countries, and they used 260 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 5: to think, Hey, those guys are backwoods. And now all 261 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 5: those countries are thriving. The people are rich, They're building huge, 262 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 5: incredible edifices all over those countries, and meanwhile Iran keeps 263 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 5: falling further behind. 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My name Clay for twenty percent off. Go 299 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 5: check them out today. Fast Growing Trees dot Com. My 300 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 5: name Clay as the promo code for twenty percent off. 301 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 6: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton telling it like it is. 302 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 6: Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you 303 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 6: get your podcasts. 304 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 2: Third hour of Play in Buck kicks off right now. 305 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: Ron the big story of the day. We're going to 306 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 2: get the latest on it. President Trump went live and 307 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: we carried some of that for you in the first hour. 308 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 2: We're gonna go back and listen to that. Of course, 309 00:15:58,120 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 2: all three hours of the Clay and Buck Show. We're 310 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 2: up and podcast form as soon as we've finished with them, 311 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 2: and you've can listen to them on the iHeart app 312 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: or wherever you get to a podcast. Now, Trump covered 313 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: a whole range of issues we have this ongoing I 314 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: guess we just call it air strikes. 315 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 3: Clay, I'm I say, it's this is war. But that's 316 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 3: that's okay. 317 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: I don't want to get into some definitional fight with people, 318 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 2: and it doesn't as long as we understand that we 319 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: are engaged in acts of war. 320 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 3: We are killing people, we are blowing up military. 321 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 2: Material l We have lost over a dozen soldiers in 322 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 2: this process, or I should say a dozen service members 323 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 2: in this process as well. So it's it's serious business. 324 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 2: Whatever we want to call it, it's a serious business. 325 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 2: And and this is something that the country should pay 326 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 2: close attention to. Now with the latest on this, there 327 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 2: are concerns over the price of oil. The Straight of 328 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 2: Horror moves allies assisting us with the Straight of Horror 329 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 2: moves or the lack thereof lack of help from them. 330 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 2: So here we have Trump for example. This has cut 331 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: thirty four on whether France's Emmanuel Macron has been helpful 332 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 2: and what's going on with our allies and the Straight 333 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 2: of Hormuz. 334 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 3: Here's what he has to say, Play thirty four. 335 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 7: Have you been speaking with the French president Macron about 336 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 7: the coalition to reopen the Strait of Hormus? 337 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 8: Yeah, I have spoken to him. He's been on a 338 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 8: scale of zero to ten, I'd say he's been an eight. 339 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,719 Speaker 3: Not perfect, but it's friends. 340 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 8: Expect perfect. 341 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 7: Are you confident that friends will help with the reopening 342 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 7: of Strait of Hormus? 343 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean. 344 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 8: Sure he's gonna I think he's gonna help. 345 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 3: I mean, I'll let you know. I spoke to him yesterday. 346 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 8: I don't do a hard sell on them because my 347 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 8: attitude is we don't need anybody. We're the strongest nation 348 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 8: in the world. We have the strongest military by far 349 00:17:58,400 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 8: in the way. 350 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 5: We don't need them. 351 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: Clay Trump being Trump there and just laying it out, 352 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 2: He's like, look, if allies want to help, they'd be great. 353 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 2: He's this Macron eight out of ten from Trump is 354 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 2: pretty good because you know, if it were a two 355 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 2: out of ten, he wouldn't be shy, or zero out 356 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 2: of ten, he wouldn't be shy about saying it. But 357 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 2: getting more allies to help this is a Remember it's 358 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: not just Iranian oil, it's. 359 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 3: Rocky and kwaighty and you know you have to do Saudi. 360 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 2: You got to think about all the different factors here 361 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 2: with the straight of horror moves and who is affected 362 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: by this? 363 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, and look, I mean the reality is China, I 364 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 5: believe is the most impacted. They're the ones who need 365 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 5: Iranian oil worse than anybody does. And so the amount 366 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 5: of oil and gas that impacts us that comes out 367 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 5: of the strait of her moves is almost non existent. 368 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 5: In fact, we're a net exporting country when it comes 369 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 5: to our overall oil and gas. And if you paid attention, 370 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 5: the oil and gas company stocks have actually been on 371 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 5: fire because Trump prefers that the price of oil and 372 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 5: gas be in the fifty dollars area. The oil and 373 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 5: gas provider some of them say they needed to be 374 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 5: in the sixty dollars area. 375 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 3: For those of you that are paying. 376 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 5: Attention right now as I speak to you, oil and 377 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 5: gas is ninety four dollars a barrel, and it's down 378 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 5: from one twenty last Sunday when it spiked and hit 379 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 5: a higher rate. So the price of oil and gas 380 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 5: come down, the price will go up. And President Trump 381 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,959 Speaker 5: has been pretty clear that when and I think this 382 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 5: is one hundred percent accurate, when we end our actions 383 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 5: in the Middle East, they will be coming back down here. 384 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 5: By the way, we were talking earlier about moch Taba 385 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 5: Kamene and the fact that Trump has been told that 386 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 5: he may actually be gay, but Trump says, we don't 387 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 5: know where he is or even if he's alive. He 388 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 5: was asked about this at a press conference at the 389 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 5: Kennedy Center just a little bit earlier in the day. 390 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 3: Here's cut thirty five. 391 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 5: Trump on on the man that has been elevated to 392 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 5: the new Supreme Leader of Iran and whether he's even alive, 393 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 5: cut thirty five. 394 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 8: A lot of people are saying that he's badly disfigured. 395 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 8: They're saying that he lost his leg one leg, and 396 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 8: he's you know, been hurt very badly. Other people are 397 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 8: saying he's dead. Nobody's saying he's one hundred percent healthy, 398 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 8: And you know, he hasn't spoken because the Ayatola would 399 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 8: sit and he'd spew hate from a form of a throne. 400 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 8: Not as nice as a throne. I like the English 401 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 8: throne much better. But it was a fancy chair. But 402 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 8: he'd spew hate from his chair. But you see him 403 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 8: a lot, right this one we haven't seen at all, 404 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 8: So that could be for a lot of different reasons. 405 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 3: We don't know Peter, I he is dead or not? 406 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 5: Okay, a couple of other things here, buck, President Trump says, 407 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 5: so he doesn't. That was a response to a question 408 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 5: for Peter Doocey. He says, we don't know if he's 409 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 5: alive or dead. And President Trump says, one of the 410 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 5: challenges here. Ron wants to talk and they say they 411 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 5: want peace. But President Trump says, we killed so many 412 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 5: of their leaders. We're not even sure who's alive or 413 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 5: who we're negotiating with. Cut thirty six. 414 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 8: All of their leaders are dead as far as we know. 415 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 8: But they're all dead. We don't know who we're dealing with. 416 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 8: We knocked out the first group, then the second group 417 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 8: met eighty eight met to pick the leader because the 418 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 8: first group was all dead, and the second group got 419 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 8: knocked out. They're all dead. Then the third group met. 420 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 8: I would think they're a little nervous about mating. I 421 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 8: don't know if they're nervous, maybe they're crazy. They're not nervous, 422 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 8: then they're crazy. But we met with the next group. 423 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 8: But we don't know who their leader is. We have 424 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 8: people wanting to negotiate, we have no idea who they are. 425 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 5: And then so again we have no idea who the 426 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 5: leader is. We don't know who we're negotiating with. He 427 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 5: did think this was interesting, Buck, and we were talking 428 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 5: about this a little bit off the air. President Trump 429 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 5: won't say which president he talked to former president, although 430 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 5: we'll tell you who our guesses are here in a moment. 431 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 5: But he said, I wish I had done it. Here 432 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 5: is cut thirty seven. 433 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 8: Every president knew. I've spoken to a certain president who 434 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 8: I like, actually a past president, former president. He said, 435 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 8: I wish I did it. I wish I did, but 436 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 8: they didn't do it. I'm doing it, yeah, which I can't. 437 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 3: I can't tell you that. 438 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 8: I don't want to embarrass. It would be very bad 439 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 8: for his career, even though he's got no career. 440 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 5: Okay, certain president who he likes that, says I wish 441 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 5: I had done it buck Bill Clinton, it feels to 442 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 5: me if you listened. I don't know if we played that, 443 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 5: maybe we can go grab it. Bill Clinton, in his 444 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 5: Epstein deposition said, as far as I know, President Trump 445 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 5: never did anything wrong, and he can we go grab that. 446 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 5: I know it was in the Ross producer Greg, if 447 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 5: you can grab that, because I don't think we ever 448 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 5: played it, but I meant to have us play it 449 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 5: because President Trump has been actually fairly complimentary of President Clinton. 450 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 5: They used to play golf a lot. I don't think 451 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 5: it's Biden because certainly Trump does not seem to be 452 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 5: very fond of Biden. I don't think it's Obama because 453 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 5: I don't think Trump and Obama would talk. 454 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 3: George W. 455 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 5: Bush is the only other former president this could be, 456 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 5: but it doesn't seem like President Trump and George W. 457 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 5: Bush have much of a positive relationship. So would you 458 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 5: agree with me if you were assessing who the conversation 459 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 5: was with that, by far it would be Bill Clinton. 460 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 461 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 2: I think if you put Bill Clinton and Donald Trump 462 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 2: in a room right now, I think they brow it 463 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 2: out for an hour and like we're laughing and having 464 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 2: a good time. I don't think that Trump has any 465 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 2: animosity towards Bill Clinton at all. 466 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 3: I don't. 467 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 2: I can't think of Bill Clinton taking any meaningful shots 468 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 2: at Trump publicly either. I do not think that Donald 469 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 2: Trump likes Barack Obama. I do not think that they 470 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 2: would have this kind of offline conversation. I could not 471 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 2: see that. Uh so, you know, yeah, I would. I 472 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 2: would say it's probably. 473 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 3: I mean, the only other one I think it could 474 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 3: be is George W. 475 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 5: Bush, right, And there's never really been any indication that 476 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 5: Trump and George W. Bush have much of a relationship 477 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 5: at all. So I think of the of the former presidents, 478 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 5: Clinton would be the one that he has the best 479 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 5: relationship with by far. 480 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 8: Well. 481 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 2: What he's speaking to here as well is when he 482 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 2: says a former president who says, I wish I could 483 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 2: have done this too. The Iranian regime has just been 484 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 2: causing problems and not like trade problems, and you know, 485 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 2: you know Iranians they directed uh you know, the Bea 486 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 2: Hesbal as a proxy, the direct terrorist attacks all over 487 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 2: the world. There's a horrific attack at the Jewish Center 488 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 2: in Buenos Aires. I've actually been to that Jewish Center 489 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 2: and been there for a ceremony commemorating this down in Argentina. 490 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 2: Just how how horrible this this attack. You wouldn't think that, 491 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 2: you know, Middle Eastern terrorist groups would be reaching deep 492 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 2: into Argentina at something, but they did. So this is 493 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 2: the reality. I think Clay is Trump just lost patience 494 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 2: with this nonsense. I think he realized that there was 495 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 2: no world in which the Iranians were going to meaningfully 496 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 2: agree to verifiable de nuclear weaponization and everything. And it 497 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 2: was all just chirping in chat, you know what I mean, 498 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 2: It was all nonsense and all this talk and all 499 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 2: the negotiations. Trump I think and his team are approaching 500 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 2: them in good faith, and they just the more they 501 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 2: deal with the Iranians, the more they feel like you're 502 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: just constantly playing games in line. And he said enough 503 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 2: is enough. 504 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 3: And I think that. 505 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 2: There are a lot of people that after especially many 506 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 2: of you listening to this, you know what I'm talking about. 507 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 2: In Iraq, it was Iranians working through the Shia militias, 508 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 2: which were just essentially armed, tripped and a quaint and armed, 509 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 2: trained and equipped factions of the Iranians in Iraq. They 510 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 2: were blowing up Americans just to kill Americans, naming them, 511 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 2: killing them with these EFPs. I've talked about the explosively 512 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 2: formed penetrators. The Iranians came up with an explosive that 513 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 2: was specifically designed to penetrate the wholes of American armored 514 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 2: vehicles because after all, the IEDs our vehicles got up armored. 515 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,719 Speaker 2: But these EFPs could punch through almost anything. And they 516 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 2: did this just to kill Americans. They weren't going to 517 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 2: take over in Iraq, you know, they weren't going to 518 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 2: invade themselves, so they kind of took over via proxy. 519 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 2: But people got pissed off about this, and Trump was 520 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 2: pissed off about it, and I get it. So part 521 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 2: of this also is just we're sick of the Iranians 522 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 2: thinking that they can do this stuff. But I'll just 523 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 2: remind everyone they stay in charge, they're not going to 524 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 2: forget about this. So it's not like the problem is 525 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 2: solved just by we keep hearing defang I've used the 526 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 2: phrase myself, the fangs are going to grow back if 527 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 2: the same people are in charge. 528 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 3: Here, by the way, we didn't play this. Bill Clinton 529 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 3: was deposed in the. 530 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 5: Epstein related investigations, and here is what he said about 531 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 5: President Trump. He goes out of his way not even 532 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 5: directly asked this, I think, in a Democrat line of questioning, 533 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 5: to say, hey, I never saw anything that would suggest 534 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 5: Trump was engaged in any kind of illegality. 535 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 3: Listen, he's never. 536 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 9: The president never, this is funny something years ago. Never 537 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 9: said anything to me to make me think he was 538 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 9: involved in anything in profitable regard to Epstein. 539 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 3: Either, he just didn't. 540 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 9: That's the truth. You know. As I said earlier, the 541 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 9: only conversation I have with President Trump's buff this was 542 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 9: in the early two thousands, and I have no information 543 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 9: that he did anything wrong. I just wanted all out there. 544 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 9: I want everybody to get it all out there and 545 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 9: let everybody see where we all. 546 00:27:58,800 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 3: I just thought that was interesting. 547 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 5: In the prelude to that, Clinton said, hey, you're not 548 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 5: asking me specifically about this, but he just put it 549 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 5: out there, which makes me think. 550 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 3: And I know they played golf together before. 551 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 5: Again, presuming President Trump is being honest about this, and 552 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 5: I think he probably is. I think he probably does 553 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 5: talk to Bill Clinton every now and then. I think 554 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 5: he liked Bill Clinton. It also ties in buck with 555 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 5: I think Bill Clinton. If you go back in time 556 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 5: would say not having taken out North Korea's nuclear abilities 557 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 5: is one of his regrets from when he was president. 558 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 5: I think he said that publicly, and I know that 559 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 5: we've made that analogy. 560 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 3: Certainly. 561 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 5: I have that this is the modern day equivalent of 562 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 5: taking out the nuclear opportunity before it arises, and so 563 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 5: I think they probably have talked about this. So I 564 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 5: would be very surprised if he's not talking about Bill Clinton. 565 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's probably the case. 566 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 2: Now we have to see where all of this goes 567 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 2: and how long this continues on. And we haven't really 568 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 2: discussed a clay, but there is something of a fracture 569 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 2: in the MAGA. 570 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 3: World right now. 571 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 2: Where there are a lot of very ardent Trump supporters 572 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 2: who are really really upset about this operation in Iran. 573 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 2: I think that they will stop being so upset about 574 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 2: it when the operation ceases, which I believe will be soon. 575 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 2: But you know, this is causing in an election year. 576 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 2: Now we're early in the election year, but this is 577 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 2: definitely causing a bit of static on our own side. 578 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 2: And I think that people have started to lose sight 579 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 2: a little bit. And this is true in a whole 580 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 2: range of ways. Of what a danger the Democrats are, 581 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 2: how much suffering, how much waste, how much fraud, how 582 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 2: much misery, how much crime go to the list. If 583 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 2: Democrats take back power, we will all have to suffer through, 584 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 2: and I think that will be a unifying thing as 585 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 2: it gets closer. I would hope it's a unified thing 586 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 2: to recognize the Democrat Party of twenty twenty four that 587 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 2: was soundly defeated is the exact same Democrat Party now, 588 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 2: except they're even more you know, outraged, angry, and emotionally unstable, 589 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 2: and they are thinking that as soon as Trump is 590 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 2: no longer leading, they'll have an opportunity. So that's that's 591 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 2: part of this too. 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Okay Buck, 631 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 5: This is real, like I said, and not spectacular. 632 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 3: For those of you out there that are Siginfeld fans, 633 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 3: these are the real rules. 634 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 5: In order to compete for Best Picture, all films must 635 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 5: now meet the diversity and inclusion quota to be nominated. 636 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 3: There are These are the requirements. Buck. 637 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 5: A lead or significant supporting actor must be from an 638 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 5: underrepresented racial or ethnic group. At least one of the 639 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 5: lead actors or significant supporting actors is from an underrepresented 640 00:32:51,920 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 5: racial or ethnic group including Black, East Asian, Hispanic, Indigit People's, 641 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 5: Middle Eastern North African, Pacific Islander, South Asian including Bangladeshi, Bhutanese, Indian, Nepali, Pakistani, 642 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 5: and Sri Lankan. Southeast Asian including Burmese, Cambodian, Filipino, hamong In, Indonesian, Laotian. 643 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 5: Some of these I'm not even that familiar with candidly 644 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 5: Malaysian mien. I don't know what that is, Singaporean, Thai 645 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 5: and Vietnamese. I think I deserve credit for not saying 646 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 5: THI All right, that's one. This is one part. Second part, Buck, 647 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 5: at least thirty percent of all actors not submitted for 648 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 5: OSCAR consideration must be from at least two underrepresented groups, 649 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 5: including women, racial or ethnic groups, LBGTQ plus people with 650 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 5: cognitive or physical disabilities or who are deaf or hard 651 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 5: of hearing. Now there's a joke there, because you could 652 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 5: just be We'll just say that he's, you know, like 653 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 5: a sub IQT. And then another one Buck, main storyline 654 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 5: or subject matter. The main storyline, theme, or narrative of 655 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 5: the group must be centered on an underrepresented group women, 656 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 5: racial or ethnic group, LGBTQ plus people with cognitive or 657 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 5: physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing. 658 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 5: So in order to qualify, you have to meet the 659 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 5: diversity and inclusion guidelines to be considered for a movie. So, 660 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 5: for instance, I saw Jimmy Fayla tweet about this. In theory, 661 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 5: the Godfather would not qualify. I don't believe as a 662 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 5: Best Picture nominee now because my recollection of it is 663 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 5: it's the story of an Italian family obviously mobsters, but 664 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 5: there's not a lot of diversity, equity and inclusion in 665 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 5: that film. I would imagine a movie like Brave Heart 666 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 5: or Gladiator would not qualify now for an Oscar like 667 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 5: you can go back through a lot of phenomenal movies 668 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 5: that would no longer qualify to even be nominated. Titanic 669 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 5: I can't imagine would qualify. Really, it's kind of crazy 670 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 5: to think about. 671 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 2: Yes, in Braveheart, Edward Longshanks throws the gay lover of 672 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 2: his son out the window summarily. 673 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 3: I think that. 674 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 2: Would be a big problem for the today. I think 675 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 2: there would be issues that they would not, you know, 676 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 2: be willing to overlook from movies that were were celebrated 677 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 2: as the best movies of our youth. It's there's a 678 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 2: part of me that's that is actually just sad because 679 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 2: movies with a dominant art form in America. For really, 680 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 2: I think everyone listening right now, I mean you can 681 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 2: go back. 682 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,439 Speaker 3: Even into the sixties and seven. 683 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 2: You know, people would say music in this xty seventies 684 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 2: maybe was had the same kind of cultural resonance, the 685 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 2: biggest movies in the eighties, nineties, and the other two 686 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 2: thousands were the biggest cultural events that we had. Okay, 687 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 2: it was bigger than any band, It was bigger than 688 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 2: anything else, and certainly had the most staying power, I think. 689 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 2: And now it's just trash. They're just churning out trash 690 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 2: all the time. And I think part of this is 691 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 2: that once you've created some of these dei which really 692 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 2: it's race Marxism, and once the Academy and Hollywood in 693 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,399 Speaker 2: general put this race marxism into place, it's very hard 694 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 2: to get rid of because you have a lot of 695 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 2: people now who have positions of authority that they were 696 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 2: given because of skin color, LGBTQ status, whatever it may be, right, 697 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 2: gender identity. Do you think that they're ever going to say, 698 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 2: you know what, we're we're kind of messing things up 699 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 2: by creating these rules that that privilege and empower people 700 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 2: like me. 701 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 3: No, of course not. 702 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 2: So they're the ones calling the shots, and they're the 703 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 2: ones that are going to say that that list you 704 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 2: went off is insane. It's insane and also tells you 705 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 2: on its face that this is not about the best movie. 706 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 2: This is about the movie that the people that think 707 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 2: that these rules, you know, the movies that the people 708 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 2: who think about these rules want you to see and 709 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,240 Speaker 2: think is the best. Well, it's very very thinly sliced onion. 710 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 5: So think about this. Could you even could Saving Private 711 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 5: Ryan be nominated? When I think about history movies, right, 712 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 5: we make fun of the fact that you watch a 713 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 5: Viking historical drama and suddenly there's a black female Viking 714 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 5: and you're like, I, you know, leader, I don't think 715 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,399 Speaker 5: it was very historically accurate that the Vikings were led 716 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 5: by black women. And then you see like the Shonda 717 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 5: Rhimes of the world, who make tons of money from Netflix, 718 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 5: and they say, you know, race is such a cultural construct, 719 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 5: and they make I don't know whatever it is, Pride 720 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 5: and Prejudice. Was Bridgerton the thing that she watches, I 721 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,919 Speaker 5: don't make I don't watch it now. But you base 722 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:07,240 Speaker 5: sickly couldn't nominate a show like that for inclusion because 723 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 5: it's said in England in the seventeenth and eighteenth century, 724 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 5: whatever the heck it is. But I mean, think about 725 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 5: it just recently, would you say Saving Private Ryan, whatever 726 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 5: you think, is probably what one of the jewels of 727 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 5: modern American cinema. If you consider just the entire concept 728 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 5: of the movie, from start to finish, the d day shots, 729 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 5: everything else, it clearly wouldn't qualify for Best Picture. They 730 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 5: would have to create a suck thing about it. They 731 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 5: would almost crew one. 732 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 2: Of the best pictures would qualify. Almost not I don't 733 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 2: think any of them. 734 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 5: I mean if you go back and look through them, 735 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 5: but anything that has a historical aspect, either they have 736 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 5: to create a subplot that has nothing to do with 737 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 5: the actual history. Right, So you're like, and here's saving 738 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 5: Private Ryan, and now we're gonna also tell the story 739 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 5: of the Tuskegee Airmen, and we're gonna weave somehow that 740 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 5: into this story of But I mean, think about like Braveheart. 741 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 5: They would just create black characters in Scotland and they 742 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 5: would have them in the movie so that they could 743 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 5: qualify for Oscars. Right, I mean, any movie that's made 744 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 5: I just watched Napoleon, any movie that's made that actually 745 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 5: features white guys, and any military drama for instance, of 746 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 5: the last thousand years basically couldn't be made and compete 747 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 5: for an Oscar now without a created subplot that involves 748 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 5: a gay lesbian angle, or a black subplot or a 749 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 5: female subplot. I mean, maybe you could say, oh, we're 750 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 5: gonna make Josephine the star of the Napoleon drama so 751 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,320 Speaker 5: that it qualifies, and she's gonna have thirty percent of 752 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:47,720 Speaker 5: the lines. 753 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 3: This is awful. 754 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 5: It destroys great art by making you check boxes as 755 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 5: opposed to just make a great film. The Godfather is 756 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 5: a perfect example, because probably the greatest film that's ever 757 00:39:59,160 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 5: been made. 758 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 3: I it used to be. It used to be the. 759 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 2: Case that the Best Picture nominees and also just in general, 760 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 2: the movies that would get a lot of acclaim were 761 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 2: also the movies that everybody saw and a lot of 762 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 2: people love. Now that's not universally the case, or it's 763 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 2: not one hundred percent, but movies that people love would 764 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 2: get nominated for stuff. You know, didn't Gladiator win Best Picture? 765 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, Gladiator one. 766 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 3: Best Picture, Titanic one Best Picture? Did Braveheart win? 767 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 2: Yes, Brave Heart one hundred percent? Brave Heart won Best 768 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 2: Picture and Best Director? So Mel Gibson saving Private Ryan win? 769 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 2: I mean, no, no, Shakespeare in Love. I think beat 770 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 2: Saving Private Ryan that year. Well that's what I remember this. 771 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 2: It was a Weinstein Mirramax film. 772 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 3: Well, Harvey Weinstein never did anything wrong. We all know that, 773 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,320 Speaker 3: So we had Hollywood's favorite. 774 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 5: Oh, everybody who lectures you about virality, they loved Harvey Weinstein. 775 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 2: I it's it's astonishing to see how far it's fall though. 776 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,800 Speaker 2: Where now it's like they're celebrating weird art house films 777 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,840 Speaker 2: and trying to get everybody to act like they're so 778 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 2: great and they're just not. When people say that what 779 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 2: makes a movie good? Is it really entertaining? Are you 780 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 2: sitting there and it's and the time is flying by 781 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 2: because you're really into the story. I mean, I think 782 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 2: that's one of the first ways you can know. I mean, 783 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 2: the movie Centers is just a it's a it's a 784 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 2: rip off of From Dusk Till Dawn, which is a 785 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 2: movie that is probably best seen after drinking a forty 786 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:30,720 Speaker 2: of Old English or smoking something when you're in college. Okay, 787 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 2: From Dust Till Dawn is not a great movie. It 788 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 2: has its entertaining moments, and it is among the best. 789 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 5: Selma Hyak for Dancing with the Python. Back in the day, 790 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 5: I knew, I knew Clay was gonna come in with 791 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 5: the selamahayak there. I just knew I was one of 792 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 5: the great scenes in film history. I'll just point. 793 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,760 Speaker 2: Out Selma was uh, Salma did very well for herself. 794 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 2: So but this is you look at Sinners and the 795 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:53,879 Speaker 2: plot you just you just read the plot. 796 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 3: You're like, this is stupid. This is a stupid plot. 797 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 3: It's not it's not a good movie. 798 00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 5: I haven't seen it, But I love that you hate 799 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 5: Cinner this much. I haven't seen it at all. 800 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 2: You know that there's now memes about people that feel 801 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 2: like they have to tell you how much they hate Sinners, 802 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 2: Like this is the thing now, you know, because it's 803 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 2: it's it's not enough to just be like it's a 804 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 2: bad movie, like they want to tell everybody. But yeah, 805 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 2: I'm somebody who wants to tell her it's a terrible 806 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 2: that's the great, that's the great for succession. Do you 807 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 2: remember when they're in that party and they're like, what 808 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 2: kind of party is this? And he was like, it's 809 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 2: a party where you can tell everybody that you actually 810 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 2: think that Hamilton. 811 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 3: Hamilton is bad. Yeah. 812 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,840 Speaker 2: That totally resonated with me because I was kind of 813 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 2: a hold that there were people who were right of 814 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 2: center who were like, I think Hamilton's really good, and 815 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 2: I was like, you're just part of the mob, part 816 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 2: of the herd on this one, and it's absolutely not. 817 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 2: Hamilton is trash. It is garbage start to finish. There 818 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 2: is no reason for you to pretend that you like this. 819 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 2: I know it's the most successful financially musical of all time. 820 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 2: I don't care that truth. 821 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,760 Speaker 5: Yes, no way, yeah, it's not more successful than Katz 822 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 5: and LEAMZ check it out team. 823 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 3: There's no way that's truth. Look at those are just 824 00:42:59,320 --> 00:42:59,839 Speaker 3: way long. 825 00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 5: I know nothing about musicals that I just don't think 826 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 5: it's old enough. 827 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 2: Clay people were charging like a one thousand dollars a 828 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 2: ticket for years to go to see Hamilton, and that 829 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 2: was just like basic thing good. 830 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 3: This is crazy. It was a total. It was like, uh, it. 831 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:17,360 Speaker 2: Was like paying penance for all of America's historic and 832 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,320 Speaker 2: and racial wrongs. You had to pay like a mortgage 833 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 2: payment to go see Hamilton to be a good person. 834 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,240 Speaker 3: That I went and saw. I thought it was okay. 835 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,839 Speaker 5: But I I like history, and I was I just 836 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 5: I still think a Country and Western version of the 837 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 5: Obama administration played by white actors to prove how race 838 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 5: doesn't matter. Would actually just kill and uh, I would 839 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 5: love to see the reaction. We're gonna do a country 840 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 5: and Western version of Obama, and we've got white men 841 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 5: and women playing Barack. 842 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 2: And I'm gonna let you because race is a culture 843 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 2: to let you redeem yourself. Here, I'm gonna let you 844 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 2: redeem yourself. What's better Scream seven or Hamilton? 845 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,359 Speaker 3: Scream seven? There we go. 846 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 2: I haven't even seen Scream seven, and I can tell 847 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 2: you it's better than Hamilton because Hamilton ucks. 848 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 5: I gotta tell you right now, we've got battles going 849 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,879 Speaker 5: on for everybody to be in the best possible shape 850 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 5: that they can be. And if you're out there right 851 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,840 Speaker 5: now on a Monday and you are thinking to yourself, 852 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 5: I do not feel like I have the energy that 853 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 5: I need to be able to keep up with my kids, 854 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,879 Speaker 5: to be able to do my job, to be able 855 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,319 Speaker 5: to keep up with all the different. 856 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 3: Events going on. 857 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 5: You can get hooked up right now with Chalk and 858 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 5: you will get an incredible offer right now, lowest subscription 859 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 5: rate available when you use my name Clay. 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So we are talking 880 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 2: about the Iran situation here and everything going on around it, 881 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,440 Speaker 2: and it looks like this war is going to continue 882 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 2: on for at least some weeks ahead. 883 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 3: We've also got a lot of. 884 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,839 Speaker 2: Your talkbacks, your thoughts, your latest for all of us, 885 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 2: which we want you get to for sure. Do we 886 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 2: still let me see if we still have here we 887 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 2: go podcast listener? Oh wow, this is not about Iran, Clay, 888 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 2: did you have something you want to jump? This is 889 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 2: gonna get unserious very fast here with these talkbacks. Do 890 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,799 Speaker 2: do you have serious analysis to offer up? 891 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 3: Well? 892 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 5: What did I tease? I do want to mention before 893 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 5: we have some some fun here. This is awful and 894 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 5: it's a story that I think should be getting more attention. 895 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:30,399 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, yeah. 896 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 5: The Iranian women's soccer team refuse to sing the national 897 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 5: anthem in Australia during a tournament that happened about the 898 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 5: same time as our attacks on Iran began. 899 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 3: Uh. 900 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 5: The women were then threatened by their minders, as unfortunately 901 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,799 Speaker 5: often occurs, and seven of them I believe was the 902 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 5: initial number, were granted asylum in Australia because they were 903 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 5: terrified to go back home. There are reports now that 904 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 5: Iran has been seizing the family members of these women 905 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 5: and torturing them, and the women have now for the 906 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 5: most part, all left Australia and relinquished rescinded their asylum claims. 907 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 5: I believe team, if you can make this, I believe 908 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 5: they're down to two people now who are left in 909 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:28,320 Speaker 5: Australia to members of that team, and everybody else has 910 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 5: has decided to return to Iran, even though obviously they 911 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 5: are likely to face severe torture themselves and maybe even execution. 912 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,280 Speaker 3: For some of them. 913 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:46,840 Speaker 5: On top of that, buck, no one the Megan Rapinos 914 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,880 Speaker 5: of the world. All of the US women soccer players 915 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 5: who have lectured us about how awful Trump is and 916 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 5: how they won't go to the White House and how 917 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 5: they don't want your support if you're a Trump voter, 918 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 5: all of the those things the Megan Rapinos in their 919 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,400 Speaker 5: crowd have said. None of these women have set a 920 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 5: world a word buck about these Iranian women's soccer players 921 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 5: and spoken up for basic human rights around the world, 922 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,919 Speaker 5: or supported them in any way. I just think it's 923 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 5: very much worth considering when we look at the hypocrisy 924 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,800 Speaker 5: there of so many of these athletes. When real danger 925 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,960 Speaker 5: is faced and when real courage is required by women's athletes, 926 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:33,440 Speaker 5: they won't say a word. And unfortunately these women, we 927 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 5: may not see some of them ever again because they 928 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 5: may well be tortured or killed for having the bravery 929 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 5: to actually do something, to stand up for freedom. It 930 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,239 Speaker 5: kind of ties in with your point earlier Buck, which 931 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,799 Speaker 5: is it's hard to be the guy or gal who 932 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 5: stands up for a new regime when the regime and 933 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,840 Speaker 5: power still has the ability to kill you. It takes 934 00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 5: unbelievable courage and frankly a high tolerance for risk, not 935 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,920 Speaker 5: only for you but for your family to rise up 936 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,279 Speaker 5: with the idea of throwing over this government, overthrowing this 937 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 5: government when the reality may be there might not be 938 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:11,920 Speaker 5: very many people following you. 939 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 2: It is interesting, I think as well Clay with this, 940 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 2: and it's a really it's a terrible story. 941 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 3: It's important and proople to know about this story. 942 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 2: But the same voices who are so quick to criticize 943 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 2: Trump and the US for its actions in Iran have 944 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,920 Speaker 2: narrow word of criticism to share about the Iranian regime. 945 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:35,920 Speaker 3: Ever. 946 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,319 Speaker 2: Really, Iran just gets to do what it wants, and 947 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:43,799 Speaker 2: a lot of people in the commentariat and in politics 948 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,440 Speaker 2: don't really have any problem with Iran. They can do 949 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,839 Speaker 2: whatever that, they can sponsor as much terrorism as they want, 950 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 2: They can be as anti, they can be as as 951 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,400 Speaker 2: they can persecute gays as much as they want. They 952 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,880 Speaker 2: can whatever it is that they want to do, and 953 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:03,200 Speaker 2: they're allowed to do it. And they can be authoritarian, 954 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,680 Speaker 2: non democratic state, no elections, nothing else. And you might say, oh, 955 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 2: but what about all these other Arab countries in the region. Okay, yeah, 956 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:11,960 Speaker 2: but they're not causing problems for everybody else. 957 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:12,799 Speaker 3: So you know. 958 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 2: We take problems based on the order of importance and priority, 959 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 2: I think, and that's how our focus should be distributed. 960 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 2: They have nothing to say about these Iranian countries. They 961 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,560 Speaker 2: have no problem I'm sorry with these Iranian actions. They 962 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 2: have no problem with it, or at least they don't 963 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,920 Speaker 2: feel the need to vocalize that it's only America that 964 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,920 Speaker 2: they're willing to speak out against and trash. And I 965 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,440 Speaker 2: just think that goes to the unseeriousness of so much 966 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:41,879 Speaker 2: of the anti American commentariat in general. And these are 967 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,480 Speaker 2: people who only find fault. It actually reminds me a 968 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 2: lot of the anti Israel commentariat. They'll criticize Israel, have 969 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,280 Speaker 2: nothing to say about about Gaza being run by Hamas 970 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,400 Speaker 2: as a terrorist state for as long as it was, 971 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,440 Speaker 2: and what an awful place it is and how in 972 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 2: so many of these countries, you know, there's this there's 973 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 2: this perfect correlay with regimes that hate Israel and hate 974 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:07,440 Speaker 2: Jews and horrible, crappy countries that nobody wants to live in, 975 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 2: really and that have nothing but misery and despair as 976 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 2: their primary day to day existence. 977 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,120 Speaker 3: There's a one hundred percent correlation. 978 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,160 Speaker 2: It's kind of amazing, isn't it in a lot of 979 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:18,920 Speaker 2: the countries that hate Israel the most, and they're the 980 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 2: crappiest places in many cases. 981 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 3: In the world. 982 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 2: And the people who speak out against Israel, and you 983 00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,399 Speaker 2: see this even in the United Nations have nothing to say, 984 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,080 Speaker 2: not a word to say about tyranny and oppression and 985 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:37,279 Speaker 2: violence and disgusting behavior from Muslims who are running the 986 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 2: show in Gaza, or from Muslims who have been running 987 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:41,320 Speaker 2: Iran into the ground. 988 00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 3: For I mean, Iran should be a really nice country. 989 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:45,879 Speaker 3: You ever noticed something. 990 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,720 Speaker 2: Nobody wants to visit this place. It's not safe now, obviously, 991 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,040 Speaker 2: but I mean in general, like no one wants Americans. 992 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 2: We can't go to Iran. 993 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:54,879 Speaker 3: We can't see all. 994 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,680 Speaker 2: The beautiful architecture and the history and eat the pistachios 995 00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 2: and buy the carpets. 996 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,320 Speaker 3: We can't do all this, which is just shameful. 997 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 2: And really very few people can and will do any 998 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,959 Speaker 2: of this because you cannot trust that government at all. 999 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,240 Speaker 2: They may decide to grab you to make an example 1000 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,520 Speaker 2: of you, because it's a They're a fundamentally immoral regime, 1001 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,839 Speaker 2: a fundamentally evil regime. And the people that have done 1002 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,480 Speaker 2: all these things, they're not going to get better, They're 1003 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,560 Speaker 2: not going to improve. And so finally Trump, I think, 1004 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,040 Speaker 2: makes the decision we at least have to raise the 1005 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 2: cost of doing business for these maniacs, and I think 1006 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,879 Speaker 2: that's a big part of why we're currently bombing their 1007 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,200 Speaker 2: military into smithereens. 1008 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,279 Speaker 5: And that's why ultimately this story might be that we 1009 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,640 Speaker 5: just I think you use the mode the grass analogy 1010 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:44,200 Speaker 5: where ultimately we destroy as much as we can, we leave, 1011 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,600 Speaker 5: and we say, hey, in five years, we may have to. 1012 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 3: Come back and do this again. 1013 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:53,040 Speaker 5: And that's assuming that we don't get actually people rising up. Okay, 1014 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 5: I mentioned that we would play a couple of cuts 1015 00:52:55,160 --> 00:53:01,000 Speaker 5: from the A from the Oscars Buck. This is CHARITHA Chandrin, 1016 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 5: who I'm sure I mispronounced her name. She is an 1017 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,799 Speaker 5: actor in Bridgerton, So this is perfect. I don't know 1018 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,360 Speaker 5: what else she was in, but she was on the 1019 00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,280 Speaker 5: red carpet and they asked her why she was speaking out, 1020 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,800 Speaker 5: and she said, she's demanding a cease fire in Gaza. 1021 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:23,040 Speaker 5: Now that happened six months ago, but she's maybe a 1022 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:27,800 Speaker 5: little bit behind. This is Hollywood actress jarethra Chandrain listen 1023 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:28,440 Speaker 5: cut thirty. 1024 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,120 Speaker 10: It's an artist to see spire pen and what we 1025 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:35,920 Speaker 10: are demanding as a ceasepire in Gaza. And I think 1026 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,920 Speaker 10: that I am so blessed to have a platform and 1027 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:40,880 Speaker 10: this is the least I can do to use it. 1028 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,719 Speaker 10: And like, sometimes the news cycle is so fast and 1029 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 10: people move on, but the people in Gaza in the 1030 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:51,640 Speaker 10: West Bank are still suffering. So yeah, just bringing attention 1031 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:51,960 Speaker 10: to that. 1032 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:57,480 Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, the ceasefire started six months ago, So great job. 1033 00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:02,359 Speaker 5: You've done an incredible phenomenal job of being on top 1034 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:02,960 Speaker 5: of the news. 1035 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,480 Speaker 2: But you just have to remember, I'd never heard of 1036 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:10,120 Speaker 2: this person before. She's obviously an actress. The point of 1037 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:14,080 Speaker 2: her saying these things is not has nothing. 1038 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,000 Speaker 3: To do with COSA. Yeah, this is you always have 1039 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:16,520 Speaker 3: to remember this. 1040 00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,400 Speaker 2: This is true about libs, about leftists, about democrats and 1041 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:24,520 Speaker 2: the global left in general. The causes are largely irrelevant. 1042 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,120 Speaker 2: It's what taking the side of the cause says about 1043 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:31,279 Speaker 2: them to their peers. So her saying this, you know, 1044 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:36,160 Speaker 2: you could say, hey, I'm here to save the Dodo bird, 1045 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,520 Speaker 2: and something could pull her side, like Dodo bird's been extinct, 1046 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,840 Speaker 2: honey for like one hundred and something years. Doesn't matter. 1047 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,760 Speaker 2: She wants you to know she's an environmentally conscious person. 1048 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:51,320 Speaker 2: Like the stupidity, the lack of geopolitical knowledge or even curiosity, Clay, 1049 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,839 Speaker 2: it's not a problem. The whole point is your declaration 1050 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,839 Speaker 2: of fealty to the thing, to the current thing that 1051 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,879 Speaker 2: people have to pretend care about so that other people 1052 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,680 Speaker 2: around them think they're a good person. And that's all 1053 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 2: this really is. And unfortunately this is very powerful, the 1054 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,839 Speaker 2: kind of thing that in Manufactured Delusion, a great book 1055 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,160 Speaker 2: you should all get. By the way, if you have 1056 00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,680 Speaker 2: not already New York Times bestseller, go get your copy. 1057 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:16,000 Speaker 3: But it's in there. 1058 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:20,239 Speaker 5: I would love to have had a microphone or maybe 1059 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,319 Speaker 5: just an audio transcript of some of the conversations she 1060 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,080 Speaker 5: had with people as to your point. They all said, 1061 00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:27,880 Speaker 5: it's so great of you to use your platform to 1062 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,319 Speaker 5: speak out against the war that's continuing in Gaza, because 1063 00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,480 Speaker 5: they also have no idea that there's been a ceasefire 1064 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,560 Speaker 5: for six months. But I did say we would play 1065 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,239 Speaker 5: a nice thing from the Oscars. You may have seen this, 1066 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,719 Speaker 5: buck I saw it on social media a little bit ago. 1067 00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:46,440 Speaker 5: Best Actress winner Jesse Buckley from Hamnett that don't know 1068 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,840 Speaker 5: who she is, did not see this movie, but she 1069 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,799 Speaker 5: decided to use her acceptance speech to praise marriage and 1070 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:57,680 Speaker 5: promote motherhood. This was, actually, I'm told, quite nice cut twenty. 1071 00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:03,439 Speaker 11: Two you'd I love you, man, I love you. You're 1072 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,960 Speaker 11: the most incredible dad. You're my best friend, and I 1073 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 11: want to have twenty thousand more babies with you. 1074 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:09,440 Speaker 9: I do. I do. 1075 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,000 Speaker 11: And Aila my little girl who is eight months, who 1076 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,640 Speaker 11: has absolutely no idea what's going on and is probably 1077 00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 11: dreaming of milk. But this is kind of a big deal. 1078 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,439 Speaker 11: And I love you and I love being your mom 1079 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,359 Speaker 11: and I can't wait to discover life beside you. It's 1080 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:33,040 Speaker 11: Mother's Day in the UK today, so I would like 1081 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:38,279 Speaker 11: to dedicate this to the beautiful chaos of a mother's heart. 1082 00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 5: So very positive there. I didn't know it was Mother's 1083 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 5: day in the UK over the weekend. Happy Mother's Day 1084 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,000 Speaker 5: to all the moms in the UK listening to us 1085 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:49,439 Speaker 5: right now. 1086 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,600 Speaker 3: Maybe there's two or three, but I thought that was 1087 00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:53,200 Speaker 3: pretty great. 1088 00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:57,000 Speaker 5: So we wanted to at least share a positive that 1089 00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,719 Speaker 5: did happen last night on the oscars. Get married and 1090 00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:03,040 Speaker 5: have ca it's a good thing to do, all right, Buck, 1091 00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,399 Speaker 5: You've got us going into this break, and then we've 1092 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,319 Speaker 5: got some laughs for you, a lot of very good talkbacks. 1093 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,480 Speaker 5: I've seen a preview and we'll have some fun with those. 1094 00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,319 Speaker 5: But first, Buck, take us away. 1095 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:14,560 Speaker 3: Think about this. 1096 00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 2: Twenty years ago, in two thousand and six, twenty thousand 1097 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:20,280 Speaker 2: dollars could buy you roughly thirty three ounces of gold. Today, 1098 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,480 Speaker 2: those same thirty three ounces would be worth roughly one 1099 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:26,040 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand dollars. 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