WEBVTT - Folk Magic with Wendi Mclendon-Covey

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Catherine, Hey, Chelsea.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we have a great guest today.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone knows her from Reno nine one one, Bridesmaid and

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<v Speaker 3>now Saint Dennis Medical and Wendy McClendon Covey's joining us now.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello.

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<v Speaker 2>Wendy, Hi, baby, Hi, Hi.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi, Wendy McClendon covey, Good morning, Good morning to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that your brother helping you set up your podcast?

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<v Speaker 2>That was my husband, my brother husband.

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<v Speaker 1>My brother husband. Hi, It's so nice to see you.

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<v Speaker 2>Where's good to see you.

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<v Speaker 4>I tried to see you at the night we were at

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<v Speaker 4>the Critics' Choice Awards together.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw you, but I didn't see you.

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<v Speaker 2>Good job with that PS.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, thank you, Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>That was amazing because you had the unenviable position of

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<v Speaker 2>having to make everybody happy after the city had burned

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<v Speaker 2>to the ground and that show had been rescheduled three times,

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<v Speaker 2>and you nailed it. You were fantastic. Thank you, Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you so much, Wendy. I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Wendy and I share a gynecologist and his name

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<v Speaker 4>is David Allan Greer. So I first want to just

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<v Speaker 4>talk about your experience working with him, because I have

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<v Speaker 4>never ever been able, nor will I ever Wendy be

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<v Speaker 4>able to take that man seriously as an actor, as

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<v Speaker 4>a person, as a skier. I tried to ski with

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<v Speaker 4>him once.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he tried to tell

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<v Speaker 1>me he could ski.

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<v Speaker 4>And this was before I became the skier that I

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<v Speaker 4>am today, before I'm a pretty decent and competent skier.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, yeah you are, thank you, thank you. I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 4>And I worked hard to get there, you know, like

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<v Speaker 4>I took it very seriously, like almost like a college degree.

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<v Speaker 4>But David, like the idiot that he is, and will

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<v Speaker 4>always remain trying to convince me that he's the one. Actually, no,

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<v Speaker 4>I have to give him a little bit of credit.

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<v Speaker 4>He's the one who got me back into skiing because

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<v Speaker 4>he took me skiing on the West Coast. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>remember if we were in Tahoe or we were in

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<v Speaker 4>maybe Aspen Comedy Festival. It was something where there was

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<v Speaker 4>like a comedy festival related, so.

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<v Speaker 2>It must have been Aspen.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was like, oh, let's go skiing.

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<v Speaker 4>I said I don't have any ski clothes and was

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<v Speaker 4>like springish, and he said, you don't need any you

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<v Speaker 4>just need jeans. And like, you know a vest, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, since when? Because I grew up in New Jersey,

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<v Speaker 4>so I skied on the East coast, right, and so

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<v Speaker 4>he convinced me to go skiing.

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<v Speaker 1>We went skiing.

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<v Speaker 4>We went out for about an hour and a half

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<v Speaker 4>until he started complaining he was too cold in the

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<v Speaker 4>springtime he had. He was the one who dragged me

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<v Speaker 4>out there and then started complaining, and finally I told

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<v Speaker 4>him to get off the mountain. I was having a

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<v Speaker 4>really good time on my own, you know, I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>leave me alone. And that was when I discovered that

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<v Speaker 4>skiing could be actually pleasurable when when other people weren't

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<v Speaker 4>with you, and warmer weather, when you didn't have to

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<v Speaker 4>put on all that gear. And so he kind of was.

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<v Speaker 4>He was kind of the person that re introduced me

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<v Speaker 4>to adult skiing. So I do want to give him

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<v Speaker 4>that shout out, but I've had so many personal experiences

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<v Speaker 4>with him as a friend.

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<v Speaker 1>That I don't want to give him any credit beyond that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you're blowing my mind that he skis at all, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't, and because he doesn't like to leave the

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<v Speaker 2>house the David I know. Now Again, I've only known

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<v Speaker 2>him for a year or two, you've known him for

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<v Speaker 2>a lot longer, but that he would willingly go and

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<v Speaker 2>ski or do something physical that's amazing to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Or do something fun.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I don't know what's happened to him over the

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<v Speaker 4>past couple of years because I haven't stayed in touch

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<v Speaker 4>with him.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I haven't hung out with him probably in

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<v Speaker 1>like ten years. But when.

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<v Speaker 4>Whenever I see him, I just think of that day

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<v Speaker 4>on the mountain, and I just think of I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>he is he is one of our funniest people.

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<v Speaker 2>He is he really is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and tell me about what it's like working with him.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, so you and I are roughly the same age.

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<v Speaker 2>So we both watched in Living Color. Uh huh right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was a pretty mind blowing show, yes at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, and he was so damn money on that

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<v Speaker 2>and in anything he does. So when I heard that

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<v Speaker 2>he was doing this show, Saint Dennis Medical, I couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>say yes fast enough. And when I'm on set, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like I just catch myself staring at him, like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>you're really right there and we know each other and

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<v Speaker 2>you know who I am, And this is crazy to

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<v Speaker 2>me that this is where my life is. So when

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<v Speaker 2>we're in a scene together, I basically turn into an

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<v Speaker 2>audience member.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you forgot to save my life.

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<v Speaker 4>So you respect him? Oh yes, yeah, that's the difference

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<v Speaker 4>between you and me. I don't have any respect for him. Actually,

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<v Speaker 4>we should book him on this podcast because I would

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<v Speaker 4>like to tell him to his face.

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<v Speaker 2>I tell him. I think he needs to hear it.

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<v Speaker 4>But I like that you do respect him because he

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<v Speaker 4>is very entertaining and obviously the show is a huge chant.

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<v Speaker 4>Congrats on all the nominations you guys received. Well the Critics'

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<v Speaker 4>Choice nomination for sure, and congrats on CEAS and two.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, congrats on being one of the funniest women out there,

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<v Speaker 4>because you make me fucking laugh what I mean a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of you. Yeah, you do. You make you make

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<v Speaker 4>everybody laugh. You're ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>You and Carrie.

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<v Speaker 4>Kenny Silver on Reno nine one one is just too

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<v Speaker 4>fucking funny.

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<v Speaker 1>These two are ridiculous together. Well, the whole cast of.

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<v Speaker 4>Rena nine one one deserves an award every year just forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Having done that show.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you you have some fun with us, didn't you.

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<v Speaker 2>I did?

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<v Speaker 4>I did a guest star on that show years and

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<v Speaker 4>years ago. I was so I was, Yes, it was,

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<v Speaker 4>which was also a ridiculous experience. It was so fun

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<v Speaker 4>to be a part of that show because you guys

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<v Speaker 4>improved so much and everyone was always just about to

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<v Speaker 4>break and always laughing in the middle of scenes.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's really what I Those are the only kinds of.

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<v Speaker 4>Productions I like to be involved in, is when people

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<v Speaker 4>are breaking on camera.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we were lucky to get you, and you were

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<v Speaker 2>so cool about it because I remember, you know, Reno

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<v Speaker 2>was just like a fly by the seat of our

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<v Speaker 2>pants kind of show like permits. Never heard of her,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we never got fermits for anything. It was

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<v Speaker 2>just gorilla shooting. So we needed cars for some reason.

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<v Speaker 2>We needed cars to drive by and it wasn't safe,

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<v Speaker 2>but you said, oh, you can use mine. I'm turning

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<v Speaker 2>it in tomorrow. It doesn't matter. You can thrash it.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was like, that's a good girl, right there,

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<v Speaker 2>she will go there, yes, of course, and she's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, all in the name of comedy, right, Wendy,

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<v Speaker 2>that's right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 4>So tell me about your life. What's happening, what's happening

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<v Speaker 4>in your personal life. So this is your husband brother

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<v Speaker 4>that set us your podcast for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and right now we're in New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh what are you doing there?

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<v Speaker 2>We have the tiniest condo in the French Quarter and

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<v Speaker 2>we come out here as often as we can. I

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<v Speaker 2>love this city. I cannot tell you what kind of

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<v Speaker 2>hold it has on me. Wow. But we hadn't been

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<v Speaker 2>able to get out here since right around New Year's

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<v Speaker 2>so we needed to come out and just check on things,

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<v Speaker 2>do some housekeeping, and of course we're gonna have fun

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<v Speaker 2>and try to hear some music and stuff. But we've

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<v Speaker 2>missed Marti Gral this year. We're missing jazz best we

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<v Speaker 2>missed we missed French Quarter beest. But doesn't matter. I

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<v Speaker 2>just love it here.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like there's always a festival happening in the

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<v Speaker 4>French Quarter always.

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<v Speaker 2>And when we got here there were three parades. Three parades.

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<v Speaker 2>We couldn't our cab couldn't even get us to our house.

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<v Speaker 2>They had to drop us off at the park and

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<v Speaker 2>we just walked our luggage through the.

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<v Speaker 1>Through the preade.

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<v Speaker 2>Quarter. Yeah, pretty much became you should.

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<v Speaker 4>Have immersed yourself in the parade, and so you got

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<v Speaker 4>to your house.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I should have, just you know, disrobed.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you ever run into Amy Schumer down there?

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<v Speaker 4>Because I was recently when I always did a show

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<v Speaker 4>down there, I went to her house in the French Quarter.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard that she has a house, and no, I

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<v Speaker 2>I've never run into her.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh you too, need to connect. You two would really

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<v Speaker 4>get on like a house on fire.

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<v Speaker 2>Really.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm going to put you on a text with her.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know if she has a big house, because

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, we've got a tiny little place because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to I don't want to worry about

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<v Speaker 2>a big house.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, no, no, it's not crazy or anything

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<v Speaker 4>like that. It's it's normal. It's normal size. She does

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<v Speaker 4>have a pool in the backyard, but it's not Wow. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's not a crazy house. Amy's not crazy like that.

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<v Speaker 4>She's like, you know, she's pretty normal. Now, you have

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<v Speaker 4>a house in Spain, I do that is not.

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<v Speaker 2>A normal Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>No, And I'm not going to pretend that it is.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>But do you you must go there a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I do go there. I go there in the summer.

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<v Speaker 4>I we rent out that house a lot because you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it is so ridiculous, so in order to justify it,

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<v Speaker 4>I have to rent it out.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do go there with it.

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<v Speaker 4>I go there like I'll be there in June for

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<v Speaker 4>a week and hopefully I'll spend like the month of

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<v Speaker 4>September or October, whatever my schedule allows. I share that

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<v Speaker 4>house with a lot of my friends and family, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's the biggest It's one of the best gifts I've

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<v Speaker 4>ever given myself, as the house in Maorca.

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<v Speaker 1>Catherine's been there, gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 4>It's kind of like a slice of I remember looking

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<v Speaker 4>at this house, and you know, places speak to you

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<v Speaker 4>as you're talking about New Orleans, right, which is such

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<v Speaker 4>a magical place everyone if you haven't been to New Orleans,

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<v Speaker 4>once you go, you understand there's just something there that

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<v Speaker 4>is not available anywhere else in any other city in

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<v Speaker 4>the United States. And I'm not sure about the world.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, maybe there's parts of Paris I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like the French Quarter or something, but which was

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<v Speaker 4>why what It's probably called the fucking Front Quarter, But

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<v Speaker 4>I just.

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<v Speaker 1>Pieced that together.

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<v Speaker 4>As I was saying it, I'm like, oh, but you

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<v Speaker 4>know when you find something and you're like whll wha ooh,

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<v Speaker 4>this is like my childhood, like it came, It came

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<v Speaker 4>from my child my childhood memories. It evoked all of

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<v Speaker 4>these happy feelings, like the view of the water in

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<v Speaker 4>the setting that it is, and just the boats that

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<v Speaker 4>like the sailboats parked in the bay reminded me so

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<v Speaker 4>much of my childhood growing up on Martha's Vineyard and seeing, Wow,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not the same exact view, obviously, but it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>a very similar view. And I remember we would always

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<v Speaker 4>sit outside on our deck and my dad would every

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<v Speaker 4>time we would be outside, he'd be look at this view,

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<v Speaker 4>look at this view.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've had that imprinted in my brain.

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<v Speaker 4>And when I found my house in Myorca, it was dilapidated,

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<v Speaker 4>it was run down. I had to climb over some

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<v Speaker 4>balustrade and banister to get up there with a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of friends.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember turning around once we got in.

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<v Speaker 4>Once we broke in and turned around and looked at

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<v Speaker 4>the view, I said, look at this view. I cannot

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<v Speaker 4>believe this house is abandoned. Like I'm going to get it.

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<v Speaker 4>And so that's how I feel every time I'm there, like,

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<v Speaker 4>look at this view and I could get lost in

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<v Speaker 4>that view and sit in front of that water for

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<v Speaker 4>days and not leave the house and be perfectly happy

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<v Speaker 4>as long as somebody's making me a frozen mango decory.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really magical there, it is. You know, the older

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<v Speaker 2>you get, the less it takes to make you happy.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes it's just a nice view and a good drink,

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<v Speaker 2>I know. Yeah, yeah, So wait, your your house was abandoned.

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<v Speaker 4>You you just found it. You didn't go through a

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<v Speaker 4>realtor or anything. You just it said for sale in

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<v Speaker 4>Spanish on it. But like it was, it was like

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<v Speaker 4>the roofs had caved in, like like the pictures were

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<v Speaker 4>still on the walls, the like you could go up

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<v Speaker 4>halfway up the staircase, but you couldn't go all the

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<v Speaker 4>way up to the top. So it needed just to

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<v Speaker 4>be refortified. There's not a lot of leeway they give

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<v Speaker 4>you in those small towns. You have to kind of

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<v Speaker 4>stick to the plan and just like refortify it, you

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<v Speaker 4>know what I mean. Like the even the banisters outside

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<v Speaker 4>on the terrace, they have to be in like you know,

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<v Speaker 4>my orcin code, And so that's even more beautiful I think,

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<v Speaker 4>so that you can't really you know, you can obviously

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<v Speaker 4>design it however.

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<v Speaker 1>You want in the interior, but what you do on.

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<v Speaker 4>The outside has to have the edifice has to match

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<v Speaker 4>the area. But yes, best gift I ever bought myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing And you earned that, Thank you, You earned that.

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<v Speaker 2>You worked your ass off. So yes, absolutely deserve to

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<v Speaker 2>have a beautiful vacation home.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you deserve the same. You absolutely deserve the same.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't do you don't have any children, Wendy, Right, Nope, nope, no,

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<v Speaker 4>And how do.

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<v Speaker 1>You feel about that decision?

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<v Speaker 2>Every day? I pat myself on the back for sticking

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<v Speaker 2>to my guns.

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<v Speaker 1>Fucking high five, high fucking five right there.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the best thing that the thing that people

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<v Speaker 4>never tell you about making the choice to never have children,

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<v Speaker 4>which nobody ever told me that was a choice either

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<v Speaker 4>I did anyone ever tell you it was a choice

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<v Speaker 4>or did you just inherently know or.

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<v Speaker 2>I just always knew I didn't want them? Yes, but

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<v Speaker 2>I never said that because it seemed like something that

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna have to do regardless. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>even when when I remember being little, being presented with

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<v Speaker 2>a baby doll and being like, oh no, that's so

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<v Speaker 2>much work. Yeah, I don't want to. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to fuss with this thing. I got stuff to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got to go make mud pies. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I never wanted them, but I liked barbies. I liked

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<v Speaker 2>you too. She's a career woman.

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<v Speaker 1>Me too.

0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:07.600
<v Speaker 2>I like it's a career woman exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>I had never contemplated this though, but you're absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 4>That's how I felt about like playing mommy and baby

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<v Speaker 4>and with little babies. Like I liked cabbage Patch kids

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<v Speaker 4>because they seemed like they had a little personality.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you know what I mean, Like they could change

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<v Speaker 2>their own diaper probably.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And they were like you could get one with

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<v Speaker 4>a dimple and green eyes and brown hair, like you

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<v Speaker 4>could kind of design them or they you know, like

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<v Speaker 4>pick out the ones you had freckles. But they seemed

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<v Speaker 4>like they had a little spunk. They weren't babies, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember getting a pre MEI cabbage Patch. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want this. I want the one with the

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<v Speaker 4>long brown hair, the green eyes and the dimple.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I prease. They they're too they're too young.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta be fussing with them all the time. Every

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<v Speaker 2>two hours. You gotta feed them. No, thank you want

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to do with that.

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<v Speaker 4>The other thing, though, is what we need to tell

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<v Speaker 4>people who are listening to this, as we have so

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<v Speaker 4>many female listeners, and I'm sure many of them are on,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, thinking and deliberating about whether or not they

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<v Speaker 4>want to be a mother when you choose not to,

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<v Speaker 4>because people go, am I going to regret this decision?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know anyone that hasn't had a child that

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<v Speaker 4>sits around and goes. I wish I had one. Anyone

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<v Speaker 4>that is child free goes. Thank god, I got through

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<v Speaker 4>that area of time, that period of time where I

0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:30.760
<v Speaker 4>could have been vulnerable to possibly dislodging a child. I

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<v Speaker 4>did not fall for fall prey to that, and I

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<v Speaker 4>made it through the tunnel that where I am no

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<v Speaker 4>longer able or viable to have one, like I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like whoop.

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<v Speaker 1>I got through that test.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep. And then I for a while I looked

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<v Speaker 2>at like Diane Keaton who adopted at fifty, and I think, well,

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<v Speaker 2>is that an option? No? It isn't.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, it isn't.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love kids and I love that people want

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<v Speaker 2>to have kids. I don't judge that, but boy do

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<v Speaker 2>I feel judged when I tell people, yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 2>never in the plan, never wanted them. I've been told,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, oh, well, that's really selfish. It's really selfish

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<v Speaker 2>of you not to have them, and it's like, wild,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it is. I think it's selfish to

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<v Speaker 2>have them because you think you're supposed to and then

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<v Speaker 2>resent them, yeah, and turn them into an unfunny comedy

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<v Speaker 2>routine that a lot of people do. Oh yeah, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's repugnant, but whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's selfish to bring a child into this

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<v Speaker 4>world where you're not one hundred and fifty percent down

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<v Speaker 4>with the idea of what's going to happen, Like, if

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<v Speaker 4>there's any doubt at all, then it's not for you.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to yearn for something the way that we

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<v Speaker 4>would yearn for our careers, the way that we yearn

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<v Speaker 4>to be creative. You have to have that longing and

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<v Speaker 4>that yearning with regard to children, and if it's not there,

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<v Speaker 4>then I think that's your answer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah exactly. And I see people going through IVF and

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<v Speaker 2>doing all these things and it's like, well, I hope

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<v Speaker 2>it happens for you. You clearly want it so much much

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<v Speaker 2>but I have never wanted it. Well, and Greg and

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<v Speaker 2>I you know, we've been married twenty nine years, and

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<v Speaker 2>we would check in with each other. You good, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't want any great and we've always been on the

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<v Speaker 2>same page with it.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, twenty nine years, that's great. Yeah, and that's why

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<v Speaker 4>you're still together, probably because you never had to be.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so too. I think so too.

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<v Speaker 4>What are you going to do for your thirtieth anniversary?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you want to go to my house in MAJORCA.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm offering it up for you to celebrate your thirtieth

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<v Speaker 4>anniversary wedding anniversary.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>It'll obviously be I'll obviously Pepper and some other couples

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<v Speaker 4>who are celebrating big milestone, so it can turn into

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<v Speaker 4>a big swingers party because.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't mark up.

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<v Speaker 1>I leave well enough alone.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be amazing. And we'll look at the view

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<v Speaker 2>give us.

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<v Speaker 4>Some serious nuggets of wisdoms or not so serious of

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<v Speaker 4>why you have a successful marriage for thirty years, like

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<v Speaker 4>what is the secret?

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<v Speaker 1>What's your secret?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, my secret, my quote unquote secret is before I

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<v Speaker 2>say anything critical of him, I look at myself and

0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:11.959
<v Speaker 2>find out that I'm not so delightful either, So I

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<v Speaker 2>try not to criticize him before I see what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>doing wrong, and I'm usually doing something terrible. I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>pain in the ass. He's very how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you a pain anything?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, listen, I'm an actor, I'm very needy,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm moody, I'm a perfectionist, and I have a short temper,

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<v Speaker 2>whereas Greg is nothing but pure sweetness, is very slow

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<v Speaker 2>to anger, and it is just the most supportive person

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<v Speaker 2>in the world. So if there's anything wrong in our marriage,

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<v Speaker 2>it's usually my fault and I'm willing to admit that.

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<v Speaker 2>I can admit it, and I think admitting it is

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<v Speaker 2>one thing. And also when he does something sweet, I

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<v Speaker 2>tell the whole wide world. So I brag on him

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<v Speaker 2>a lot because he is really like, I couldn't do

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<v Speaker 2>anything that I do if I didn't have that man.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the only one who ever encouraged me to go

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<v Speaker 2>into acting. The rest of my family and friends were

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<v Speaker 2>just like, oh, this is embarrassing, don't do that. Well,

0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:20.400
<v Speaker 2>he was right. Apparently it worked out. He was right.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, he's the one who wakes me up in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning. He gets up before me, he fixes my

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<v Speaker 2>breakfast every morning and sends me off to work. What

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<v Speaker 2>else can I ask for?

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<v Speaker 5>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 4>It sounds like you chose very well for your personality.

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<v Speaker 2>He's just my everything. Oh, I was just born to

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<v Speaker 2>love that man.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that.

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<v Speaker 4>I love to hear that. That's so, it is very

0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:48.320
<v Speaker 4>heartwarming to hear. Did you make bad choices before you

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<v Speaker 4>met your husband? Like did you have a pattern of

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<v Speaker 4>dating other types of man?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? I did. I did, but I learned my lessons quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>Like if I do something terrible once, I will not

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<v Speaker 2>do it again. So like if I date a drug

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<v Speaker 2>addict once, that's gonna be the only one. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm done. I see the signs. We're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>go through this again. You can't change people. That's not

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<v Speaker 2>my job. I got other things to do. So there's that.

0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:19.240
<v Speaker 2>And also like my parents and I love them and

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<v Speaker 2>they're still together. They are having their sixtieth wedding anniversary

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<v Speaker 2>next week. But they fought constantly. They got married very young,

0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:33.800
<v Speaker 2>and they fought constantly. For some people when they grow

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<v Speaker 2>up in that they seek that out without realizing it

0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:40.480
<v Speaker 2>because it feels normal. That never felt normal. And I

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<v Speaker 2>won't do it. I'm not going to live in a

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<v Speaker 2>house where there's constant chaos and arguing. So I knew

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<v Speaker 2>that's not something that I was gonna put up with.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, a lot of people who call in have a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of trouble breaking that. Like, I'm a big proponent

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<v Speaker 4>of what you're saying, make your first time the last time,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Like, I don't want to learn same lessons twice.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm busy. I want to move on and learn another lesson.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to, you know, I want to have new experiences.

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<v Speaker 4>But a lot of our people are like how you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Like they have such trouble letting go of toxic relationships,

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<v Speaker 4>and at our age, it's so easy to give the

0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:18.679
<v Speaker 4>advice of like this is just not for you. Like

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<v Speaker 4>the sooner you learn these lessons, the happier and freer

0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:25.040
<v Speaker 4>you become as a person, and then the things, the

0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:27.480
<v Speaker 4>things that you want and think that you need come

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<v Speaker 4>to you without so much effort being put out.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you're one hundred percent right, And if you will

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<v Speaker 2>just do that kind of mental health cleaning, then you

0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:41.159
<v Speaker 2>make space for all that good stuff to come in.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you don't clean house, you're always blocking your blessings,

0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:47.600
<v Speaker 2>which I know is a very woo thing to say about.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, No, you're in the perfect place to say no.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's okay. I'm wu wu too. I mean, you

0:20:52.320 --> 0:20:54.879
<v Speaker 4>can't be you can't move to California, live here for

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<v Speaker 4>thirty years and not just fucking capitulate, you know what

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<v Speaker 4>I mean. I'm like, okay, I mean I'm two I'm

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<v Speaker 4>two easters away from celebrating that, you know. I mean,

0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:06.480
<v Speaker 4>that's and that's not wu woo. That's actually woo woo

0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:09.320
<v Speaker 4>to me now. Is that's what I consider wo wo

0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:11.960
<v Speaker 4>is like real religion. I'm like, okay, get away from

0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:14.480
<v Speaker 4>me with that. But what do you guys have to

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<v Speaker 4>talk about after thirty years together? Out of curiosity?

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<v Speaker 5>Is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Ever? God?

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<v Speaker 4>Just anything just so natural that you it doesn't even

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<v Speaker 4>it's not an issue because I have trouble keeping a

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<v Speaker 4>conversation with somebody I've been dating for ten months.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think the way to get around that, though,

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<v Speaker 2>is that silence is okay sometimes too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't always have to be entertaining, No, you can

0:21:38.520 --> 0:21:42.240
<v Speaker 2>just sit there, it's fine. And then things do pop

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<v Speaker 2>up that you've never you know, stories you've never told before.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it's just a it does seem like

0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:49.760
<v Speaker 2>you would run out of things to talk about, but

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<v Speaker 2>there are always things and I don't know how to

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<v Speaker 2>explain it, but it never gets boring.

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<v Speaker 4>Back to Saint Dennis Medical, do you guys do a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of improv on that show?

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<v Speaker 2>We do. We do. Our showrunner Eric Legend, he was

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<v Speaker 2>one of the creators of Superstore and American Auto and

0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:10.800
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that. He really does encourage us to get

0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:14.000
<v Speaker 2>it done the scripted way, and then we can improvise

0:22:14.040 --> 0:22:16.959
<v Speaker 2>that there's just something we have to do and they

0:22:17.080 --> 0:22:20.040
<v Speaker 2>usually leave it in. They've been pretty generous with us,

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<v Speaker 2>and I have to say working on that show is

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<v Speaker 2>such a pleasure because our showrunners love their families and

0:22:28.320 --> 0:22:30.600
<v Speaker 2>want to go home at night. So if they don't,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, for the listeners at home, if your showrunner

0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:37.040
<v Speaker 2>doesn't necessarily want to go home, you don't get to

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<v Speaker 2>go home either. So it's great because we're usually done

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<v Speaker 2>by six o'clock every night. Oh what a treat.

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<v Speaker 1>That is ideal. Yeah, in this business, that is very unusual.

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<v Speaker 2>I got the script for that show like four hours

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<v Speaker 2>after The Goldbergs was canceled, so I'm lucky it came

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<v Speaker 2>my way because it was in a during a year

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<v Speaker 2>where they just weren't making a lot of pilots at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they made four across network television. Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 2>one got picked up.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that year.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember when they was like out of I mean

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<v Speaker 4>they used to make like twenty five pilots a year

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<v Speaker 4>and I don't pick up I don't know ten and

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<v Speaker 4>then all of a sudden, there was one year where

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<v Speaker 4>they made four fucking pilots and people were panicking about

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<v Speaker 4>the state of the industry.

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<v Speaker 1>So you were on the goldbergs for ten years, was it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Ten years?

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<v Speaker 4>And you played a mother and I read that you

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<v Speaker 4>didn't want to play a mother again.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't it funny? Even playing a mother's exhausting.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean I had, look I play, I got

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<v Speaker 2>to relive the eighties again. So I've been in the

0:23:38.880 --> 0:23:42.280
<v Speaker 2>eighties for twenty years, all right, which I've had enough.

0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:45.040
<v Speaker 2>All Right, I get it. The eighties were fun. I

0:23:45.080 --> 0:23:49.440
<v Speaker 2>loved playing a mom, and now I understand like kind

0:23:49.480 --> 0:23:51.840
<v Speaker 2>of what my mom went through at that time, but

0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:54.679
<v Speaker 2>I got that out of my system playing, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the overbearing mama, and I loved it, but I didn't

0:23:57.960 --> 0:24:01.200
<v Speaker 2>want to do it again, not for a while anyway. Right,

0:24:01.320 --> 0:24:05.040
<v Speaker 2>And so when I read this, you know the character

0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:09.960
<v Speaker 2>of Joyce the administrator, the hospital administrator, she's such an

0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:13.520
<v Speaker 2>odd ball that I found her irresistible and was like, yes,

0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:14.520
<v Speaker 2>I want to do this.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I mean the role is so perfect for you,

0:24:17.600 --> 0:24:20.479
<v Speaker 4>and you're so perfect in it. Thank you, absolutely, I

0:24:20.520 --> 0:24:23.399
<v Speaker 4>love you. I think you're just so fucking funny, I mean.

0:24:23.320 --> 0:24:25.320
<v Speaker 1>So talented than you, Chelsea.

0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, we're going to take a break and we'll be

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<v Speaker 4>right back with Wendy McClendon covey and her brother husband.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 4>And we're back with Wendy McLendon covey. Okay, Wendy, we're

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<v Speaker 4>going to take some callers. Okay, we're your goat advice here.

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<v Speaker 1>So Catherine, what do we have today?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, our first email comes from Andrea. The subject is

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<v Speaker 3>twenty six year old virgin Dear Chelsea, my daughter just

0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:55.679
<v Speaker 3>came to visit me for a couple of weeks. My

0:24:55.760 --> 0:24:59.800
<v Speaker 3>daughter is beautiful, thoughtful, and smart. She graduated college, went

0:24:59.840 --> 0:25:02.760
<v Speaker 3>to cooking school, and is now working successfully as a chef.

0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:06.160
<v Speaker 3>Whenever I ask the subject of dating is always changed

0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:09.200
<v Speaker 3>to another subject or answered with a one word answer.

0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:12.600
<v Speaker 3>She never has a boyfriend and never has and never

0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:15.359
<v Speaker 3>really even kissed someone. And I'm just at a loss

0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:17.920
<v Speaker 3>as to why. I asked her if she was asexual

0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:20.560
<v Speaker 3>and she said no, She's only getting older and I

0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:22.520
<v Speaker 3>don't want her to be alone and never see what

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<v Speaker 3>joy being in a relationship will.

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<v Speaker 2>Bring, let alone sex. I don't know what to do

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<v Speaker 2>or say.

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<v Speaker 3>Please help coming from her loving mom who only wants

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<v Speaker 3>the best for her, Andrea.

0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Is she gay?

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<v Speaker 4>Is your daughter a lesbian? And do you have feelings

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<v Speaker 4>about her being lesbian that are preventing her from being

0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:45.920
<v Speaker 4>truthful to you about being a lesbian? Asexual? Isn't the

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<v Speaker 4>only question to be asking this?

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<v Speaker 2>No, totally, totally, you know what I mean.

0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:51.760
<v Speaker 4>Like, if she's asking she's a sexual, she's asked her

0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:54.440
<v Speaker 4>she's gay. She didn't mention that part, and she keeps

0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:58.119
<v Speaker 4>mentioning a man, not a person, right, right, So maybe

0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:00.479
<v Speaker 4>she's a lesbian, So maybe you should think about that

0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:02.240
<v Speaker 4>or I don't know. Do you know a lot of

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:05.240
<v Speaker 4>asexual people, Wendy, I do know a couple.

0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:09.000
<v Speaker 2>I know a couple, I know a couple and look,

0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:12.480
<v Speaker 2>she's twenty six. She could be just very picky. She

0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:14.960
<v Speaker 2>could be gay, that was my first thought as well.

0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:17.520
<v Speaker 2>Or she might have a secret life that you don't

0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:19.800
<v Speaker 2>know anything about sunds.

0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Like, that's prob. Or she could be a totally late bloomer.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, some people don't really come into their own

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<v Speaker 4>until they're in their thirties, like sexually. First of all,

0:26:27.119 --> 0:26:28.760
<v Speaker 4>you don't even come into your own sexually until you're

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<v Speaker 4>like forties and fifties for a lot of women, So

0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:34.360
<v Speaker 4>that could be something too. But definitely, you pushing her

0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 4>is not going to put her in a relationship that

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:40.280
<v Speaker 4>has no impact whatsoever on anyone. I would leave the

0:26:40.320 --> 0:26:43.680
<v Speaker 4>situation alone for as long as possible until she comes

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<v Speaker 4>to you with some information that allows you to ask

0:26:46.920 --> 0:26:49.440
<v Speaker 4>further questions. But I would also put it out there

0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:52.160
<v Speaker 4>that if she is a lesbian, if she is a sexual,

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<v Speaker 4>if she does have some secret life that she doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>want you to know about, that you are okay with

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<v Speaker 4>that because you.

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<v Speaker 3>Have to be Yeah, yeah, I mean, and some people,

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<v Speaker 3>I think dating now is so intimidate weird.

0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:03.760
<v Speaker 2>It's weird.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like we went full tilt on the dating apps

0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:10.119
<v Speaker 4>and everyone went bonkers, and now there's like a contraction,

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:15.280
<v Speaker 4>like people are so disgusted by dating apps and by

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:17.760
<v Speaker 4>what's available out there that people are like, I'd rather

0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:18.360
<v Speaker 4>be alone.

0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:20.320
<v Speaker 1>So I think we're in that phase of things.

0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 4>And plus, our younger generations are not as sexually active

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:27.120
<v Speaker 4>as we were because there's so much porn and everything,

0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:30.040
<v Speaker 4>so they actually don't need to get it, you know,

0:27:30.240 --> 0:27:32.960
<v Speaker 4>So there's this possibility that she's a sexual.

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:33.720
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Also just leave her alone, Like, there's nothing that's sexy

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:39.960
<v Speaker 4>about talking to your mother about sex. Yeah, that's not

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:42.119
<v Speaker 4>going to probe her. I mean, that's not going to

0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 4>push her. Sorry to say probe. That's not trying to

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:50.640
<v Speaker 4>true into anything. So back off, mom, Back off.

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<v Speaker 2>Our first caller today is Beth. She is thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>Dear Chelsea, I've been with my partner for almost seven years.

0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:01.879
<v Speaker 3>I'm thirty and he's fifty two. I'm biologically child free. However,

0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:04.479
<v Speaker 3>last summer, my partner's teenage son moved in with us

0:28:04.480 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 3>full time from the West Coast to the southeast because

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:09.119
<v Speaker 3>he was expelled from his school and was having various

0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:13.440
<v Speaker 3>behavioral challenges. The transition was extremely challenging for me personally,

0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 3>as someone who has no desire to have kids, so

0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:17.880
<v Speaker 3>much so that I got my tubes removed earlier this year.

0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:20.600
<v Speaker 3>But I also did it for our relationship, as my

0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:23.160
<v Speaker 3>partner and I have different ideas of parenting. At times,

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:25.760
<v Speaker 3>I do think his son is a good person at heart,

0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:29.680
<v Speaker 3>but his communication is regularly disrespectful and loud. He doesn't

0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:32.879
<v Speaker 3>ever take accountability, which is super triggering for me. My

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 3>partner and I have been in couple's therapy for co parenting,

0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 3>which has been helpful for the relationship, but I still

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 3>find myself frustrated with his son's behavior. I absolutely loved

0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:44.200
<v Speaker 3>your book and how you wrote about your relationship with POOPSI, Whoopsie,

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:46.680
<v Speaker 3>and Oopsie. It really touched me, and I admire how

0:28:46.680 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 3>you built a relationship with them and became such an

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 3>influence in their life. So my question is this, when

0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:54.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm so frustrated with my partner's son's behavior, how do

0:28:54.880 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 3>I get over my frustration and irritability? What do you

0:28:58.320 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 3>think I can or should do to build a us

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 3>relationship with him. I've been in his life since he

0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 3>was seven. We've gone on vacations together, we play video games,

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:08.840
<v Speaker 3>sometimes I drive in places. Do his laundry, occasionally cook

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:11.480
<v Speaker 3>family dinner for the three of us nightly, among other things.

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:14.520
<v Speaker 3>But I'm still struggling with the relationship dynamic I have

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:16.840
<v Speaker 3>with his son. Please help me be a better step mom.

0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:18.120
<v Speaker 3>I'd like to have what you're having.

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Love you so much, Beth, Hi, Beth, Hi, Chelsea.

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:24.920
<v Speaker 4>Hi, this is Wendy McClendon Covey, our special guest today.

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:25.520
<v Speaker 6>Hi.

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Hi, Bed Yeah, nice, see too.

0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:31.200
<v Speaker 4>That's nice that you're I mean, first of all, it's

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 4>very nice that you're trying so hard and that you

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 4>want to try hard, you know, and that is a

0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:36.960
<v Speaker 4>difficult situation.

0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:38.240
<v Speaker 1>How old is he again?

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 5>He is fifteen.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, it was hard in the beginning when he first came,

0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:48.720
<v Speaker 7>I was kind of on the fence because it was

0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:50.840
<v Speaker 7>so hard because I'm the oldest of seven kids. So

0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:55.200
<v Speaker 7>that was also that's like just a component of life.

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 2>Like you've done your mothering.

0:29:56.960 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's was hard, kind of is.

0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 7>But now I'm more in those spirit of like, Okay,

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:05.360
<v Speaker 7>I'm trying to give this a try and just fully

0:30:05.400 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 7>embrace it. And when I get so irritable and frustrated,

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 7>like this is kind of also been a hard week,

0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:15.160
<v Speaker 7>it makes me I don't want to say, not want

0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 7>to try, but it makes me feel just overwhelmed.

0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 4>And is he how like what level of disrespect does

0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 4>he exhibit to you towards you.

0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:28.760
<v Speaker 7>So he'll get I mean, he's a teenager, so I

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:31.440
<v Speaker 7>know teenagers have attitudes, but he'll have an attitude or

0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 7>a whole talk back. He also doesn't know when enough

0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 7>is enough or like when to stop. So like, for example,

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:39.520
<v Speaker 7>this weekend, we went to the beach and you know,

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:43.000
<v Speaker 7>hoarsing around. We had fun, and then it's like, okay,

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 7>we're done. But all throughout the rest of the day

0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:48.920
<v Speaker 7>he kept antagonizing and just hitting me. And then I

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 7>was laying in bed Saturday night with my partner and

0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:53.280
<v Speaker 7>he comes in and like hits me on the head,

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:55.720
<v Speaker 7>like thinking he's joking, and I'm like, I'm trying.

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 5>To go to sleep enough. So it's just also just

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 5>like not knowing when enough is enough.

0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:01.360
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:04.960
<v Speaker 5>And I'm also someone that stays very calm.

0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:08.720
<v Speaker 7>I don't like yelling, whereas my partner, you know, they'll

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:12.000
<v Speaker 7>get in arguments and yell, and so when I say

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:13.760
<v Speaker 7>something to him or point out, you know, hey, your

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 7>dad is trying to tell you x Y z he

0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 7>then will shut down or who'll become nasty back towards me.

0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:26.240
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. Sounds like a typical teenager.

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, And sometimes I see a lot of myself in him,

0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 7>Like when I was a teenager, I was also very

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 7>like headstrong, so I relate to him on some levels.

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:40.320
<v Speaker 7>We're also both libras, if that means anything to you, but.

0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:41.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm a lilybra as well.

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:45.640
<v Speaker 4>I go, yeah, let's go great, because I I don't

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:45.959
<v Speaker 4>get it.

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that means.

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 5>Just balance and yeah, wanting balance and stuff, but right right.

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:58.080
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's just I think it's been hard also because

0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:01.920
<v Speaker 7>I don't want kids for a very very you know,

0:32:02.040 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 7>long list of reasons. So yeah, I'm just not sure

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:08.960
<v Speaker 7>what to do in terms of how to not be.

0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:11.920
<v Speaker 5>So triggered and frustrated.

0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 7>Because I'm also in my own recovery for mental health,

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 7>so personal responsibility and accountability to me means a lot,

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 7>and it's very, very frustrating to try to build awareness

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:25.520
<v Speaker 7>around him of like how to take accountability like he's getting.

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 7>He gets in arguments with teachers a lot, and it's

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:30.800
<v Speaker 7>always the other person's fault, So I think that's that's

0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:31.360
<v Speaker 7>hard for me.

0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:34.720
<v Speaker 4>Too, Yeah, that's annoying well, and but also again he's

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:38.000
<v Speaker 4>fifteen years old, so his brain isn't fully formed yet, right,

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 4>and it's not going to be for unfortunately for another

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:43.400
<v Speaker 4>ten years because he's a man. So that's like what

0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:46.120
<v Speaker 4>twenty five twenty six was when their brain's fully formed?

0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:47.120
<v Speaker 1>Is that right?

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Yep?

0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Or is it later?

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 3>I want to say, like twenty five to twenty is

0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 3>when you're like frontal lobe is done cooking.

0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 4>What I've learned when I took my parenting classes for poopsie,

0:32:57.080 --> 0:32:59.280
<v Speaker 4>woopsie and oopsie, what I've learned is like you know,

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:03.160
<v Speaker 4>when they're they're combative, it's different with a boy. So well,

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:05.440
<v Speaker 4>when they are combative, it's like you have to be

0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:08.720
<v Speaker 4>in a joking mood with them, Like you can't meet

0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 4>their anger with anger, like your husband yelling at him

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:14.640
<v Speaker 4>when in him yelling like that doesn't do anything. That

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:17.719
<v Speaker 4>just keeps the cycle going and it's like a storm

0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 4>in the sky that's just moving around in different areas.

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 4>But when you meet their anger with like, yeah, I

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:26.760
<v Speaker 4>hear you. You sound pissed off. You must be pissed. Yeah,

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:31.040
<v Speaker 4>you sound really pissed off, not validating his feelings, but

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:33.720
<v Speaker 4>acknowledging how he feels, you know what I mean, not

0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:38.040
<v Speaker 4>saying you're right and that your feeling is justified by like, wow,

0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:40.560
<v Speaker 4>you do seem really pissed off, you know, let me

0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:43.240
<v Speaker 4>give you some space, or like, okay, well, I'll be

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 4>over here when you calm down, you know, when you

0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:46.920
<v Speaker 4>want to talk about it. If you want to talk

0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:49.120
<v Speaker 4>about it, I'm here. You don't have to whatever. Like

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:52.040
<v Speaker 4>you just kind of throw it back at them in

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:55.600
<v Speaker 4>the moment that they're in, so that you're not ignoring

0:33:55.680 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 4>their feelings and it actually makes you feel better because

0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:02.080
<v Speaker 4>you're What we tend to do, I think when we're

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:04.840
<v Speaker 4>dealing with other people's children is take things so personally

0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 4>and it's not personal. Like they're going through puberty. They

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:11.680
<v Speaker 4>have all these hormones raging through their bodies. Their temper

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:14.319
<v Speaker 4>is not their own, their emotions are not their own.

0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:16.839
<v Speaker 4>You know, it's a period in their life where they're

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:21.320
<v Speaker 4>just uncontrolled. It doesn't happen as badly with every teenager,

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 4>but it happens a lot and it sounds like that's

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:26.320
<v Speaker 4>what's happening with him, you know, And in the moments

0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:29.319
<v Speaker 4>of calm is when you can kind of point things out.

0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:32.320
<v Speaker 4>And since you're a stepmom, it's a very specific dance

0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:35.200
<v Speaker 4>of being like, you know, you want to be like

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:38.279
<v Speaker 4>a cool person in their life that they can come to.

0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:41.760
<v Speaker 4>You want to like open up that avenue and be like, listen,

0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:44.680
<v Speaker 4>I know this is frustrating, but like, let when you

0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:46.319
<v Speaker 4>want to talk about it, if you ever do want

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:48.600
<v Speaker 4>to talk about it, I'm here. I'm always here for you,

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:53.120
<v Speaker 4>you know, and not to like impose yourself on them,

0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:55.279
<v Speaker 4>but to make sure. And it sounds like you're doing

0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:58.400
<v Speaker 4>all those things. You're spending time with him, You're cooking

0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:01.319
<v Speaker 4>dinners every night, do all of the things that put

0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:03.880
<v Speaker 4>the marbles in the jar so that he knows he

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 4>has an ally and someone he can rely on. And

0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:09.920
<v Speaker 4>like the instance of him coming in and smacking you

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 4>on the head in the bedroom when you're done playing,

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:14.360
<v Speaker 4>like how did you react in that moment?

0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:16.880
<v Speaker 7>I just turned over slowly and looked at him, and

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:21.920
<v Speaker 7>I was like really, like just I didn't yell at

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 7>him or it was like what did I doing?

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:23.920
<v Speaker 5>Why did you?

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 7>I just acknowledged maybe this isn't the time and place,

0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:30.960
<v Speaker 7>like it's nine o'clock at night, we had fun at

0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:33.160
<v Speaker 7>the beach earlier, but you know, and his dad has

0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:35.279
<v Speaker 7>noticed the same thing, Like they'll rough house and they'll

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 7>play around, but then it's still the same of like

0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:41.080
<v Speaker 7>he doesn't know when to stop, and if we try to,

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:44.680
<v Speaker 7>I don't want to say, he gets stern, but like

0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:47.920
<v Speaker 7>more serious of like okay, hey, it's time to stop.

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:50.719
<v Speaker 7>Then that triggers him and he gets upset and then

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:52.480
<v Speaker 7>is like, oh, you guys are no fun.

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 5>Or you know, why do you always have a problem, And.

0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:57.320
<v Speaker 1>It's like, no, it's just because he's embarrassed.

0:35:57.360 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 4>He's embarrassed to get like so how did you react

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:01.319
<v Speaker 4>when you did that, when you turned over and you

0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:03.080
<v Speaker 4>gave him that look, did he get the message?

0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 5>He just walked out great.

0:36:05.880 --> 0:36:10.000
<v Speaker 4>Great, But that's the result you want, like end of that,

0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:11.600
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean, without an argument?

0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:12.960
<v Speaker 1>He got the message.

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:14.920
<v Speaker 4>So I think you're doing a good job with the

0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:17.680
<v Speaker 4>way you're handling it, by not losing your temper, by

0:36:17.719 --> 0:36:19.480
<v Speaker 4>being available when they need you.

0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:20.920
<v Speaker 1>And you know, when he.

0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 4>Gets in fights with his teachers repetitively, it's not about like, oh,

0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:26.680
<v Speaker 4>you know, what's your part in this?

0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Because he's not there yet. He's only fifteen years old.

0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:31.120
<v Speaker 1>But it's just acknowledging.

0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:33.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that must be really tough, without laying blame on

0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:36.879
<v Speaker 4>either person, him or the teacher. Be sure that you're

0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:39.319
<v Speaker 4>not doing that, you know, which it doesn't sound like

0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:43.400
<v Speaker 4>you are. But by just being available, available for the

0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:46.520
<v Speaker 4>good moods, for the bad moods, being around there, don't

0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:48.640
<v Speaker 4>allow yourself to be a punching bag. But that doesn't

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 4>warrant fight either. You can just say I'm sorry, I'm

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:53.239
<v Speaker 4>not interested in this right now. Like you're kind of

0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:55.880
<v Speaker 4>being aggressive, that's fine, you're in a mood. I'm going

0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 4>to go over there, or I'm going to go to

0:36:57.480 --> 0:36:59.359
<v Speaker 4>my room, and then when you're ready to talk, come

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:02.480
<v Speaker 4>get me. I'm always here that kind of attitude. Do

0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:03.400
<v Speaker 4>you get what I'm saying?

0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I do that that makes sense.

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:08.960
<v Speaker 7>And I think because it's it's like I want to

0:37:09.000 --> 0:37:11.359
<v Speaker 7>be a support for him, which I think I am, but.

0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:13.799
<v Speaker 1>I like it sounds like you definitely are.

0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:14.480
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:37:14.520 --> 0:37:15.400
<v Speaker 5>I try.

0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:18.640
<v Speaker 7>And I've known him since, like I said, I you seven,

0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:21.719
<v Speaker 7>and you know, we've had instances where Who'll just come

0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:23.560
<v Speaker 7>and talk to me and start telling me stuff about

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:26.359
<v Speaker 7>girls or whatever is going on in school and we've

0:37:26.400 --> 0:37:30.880
<v Speaker 7>had some good conversations like why he thinks he lies

0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:32.839
<v Speaker 7>and why he thinks he does and thinks he does.

0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:36.279
<v Speaker 7>And I've noticed that if he is not being yelled at,

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:40.480
<v Speaker 7>he is also more inclined to be calm, which is,

0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:41.960
<v Speaker 7>you know, the ideal.

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:44.759
<v Speaker 4>Well, of course, I mean everyone's going to be more

0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:48.520
<v Speaker 4>common they're not being yelled at. Yeah, what do you think, Wendy.

0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, first question, are they in therapy together?

0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:58.520
<v Speaker 7>He was in anger management classes when he lived back

0:37:58.560 --> 0:37:59.600
<v Speaker 7>out on the West Coast.

0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:02.440
<v Speaker 5>And I'm a big proponent for therapy. I wish he

0:38:02.480 --> 0:38:05.360
<v Speaker 5>would do it, that his dad would kind of push

0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:09.040
<v Speaker 5>to do it. He thinks he doesn't need it, Okay, Well,

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:09.600
<v Speaker 5>two of.

0:38:09.560 --> 0:38:11.080
<v Speaker 2>Them need to be in therapy together.

0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:13.680
<v Speaker 1>I think Yeah, I think so too. I think that's

0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:14.280
<v Speaker 1>a great idea.

0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:18.880
<v Speaker 2>And I'm I am a little concerned that you have

0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:22.279
<v Speaker 2>been adamant about how you don't want kids, but you

0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:25.600
<v Speaker 2>are taking on this mother role. I don't know that

0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:27.719
<v Speaker 2>that just kind of stuck out to me, like hmm,

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Beth.

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:34.560
<v Speaker 4>I think, at the very minimum, the least that your

0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:38.120
<v Speaker 4>husband can do in exchange for you taking on this

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:42.440
<v Speaker 4>role that you did not seek out for yourself would

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:47.080
<v Speaker 4>be to mandate that there is a you know, therapy

0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:49.720
<v Speaker 4>like that, that he goes to therapy with his son,

0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:52.560
<v Speaker 4>or that his son go alone. He's the father, the

0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:55.560
<v Speaker 4>kid is fifteen. He doesn't really have a choice.

0:38:55.800 --> 0:38:56.719
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter that a.

0:38:56.640 --> 0:38:58.440
<v Speaker 2>Fifteen year old doesn't think they need therapy.

0:38:59.000 --> 0:39:02.120
<v Speaker 4>That's just in valle you know, like, and that has

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:04.080
<v Speaker 4>to be on him, and you know what I mean,

0:39:04.120 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 4>that has nothing to do with you. It can't be

0:39:06.120 --> 0:39:08.480
<v Speaker 4>coming from you. It has to be coming from his father.

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:11.840
<v Speaker 4>And that could be an easy requirement. He wasn't living

0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:14.120
<v Speaker 4>with you guys, and he was going to anger managements.

0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:16.960
<v Speaker 4>That's a sign that he should be continuing in the

0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:19.520
<v Speaker 4>direction of therapy in some capacity for sure.

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:22.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And you shouldn't be the only one doing all

0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:25.680
<v Speaker 2>the inner work. You know, you're in recovery. You said

0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:29.600
<v Speaker 2>so that that can be very triggering. And I feel

0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:31.799
<v Speaker 2>like that's the biggest piece of the puzzle is the

0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:34.520
<v Speaker 2>two of them need to work on this together.

0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:36.800
<v Speaker 4>So can you talk to your husband about that? Do

0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:38.480
<v Speaker 4>you feel comfortable having that conversation?

0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:41.080
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, for sure, And I think you might be open

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:41.200
<v Speaker 5>to it.

0:39:41.280 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 7>I hadn't thought about that before of both of them

0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:47.760
<v Speaker 7>going together, because like my partner, we were together in therapy,

0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:49.399
<v Speaker 7>which we've only what we've been doing it for about

0:39:49.400 --> 0:39:52.240
<v Speaker 7>three months now, which it's it's been helpful, but he's

0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:55.080
<v Speaker 7>admitted and knows he parents from a place of guilt

0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:56.320
<v Speaker 7>of like dad guilt.

0:39:56.680 --> 0:39:59.960
<v Speaker 5>But that's that's in stuff he needs to deal with.

0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:00.600
<v Speaker 6>Not me.

0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:04.240
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and and and he should and that kid should

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:06.360
<v Speaker 4>just be going to therapy on his own anyway. You know,

0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:09.000
<v Speaker 4>it sounds like he's been uprooted and moved around, like

0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:11.319
<v Speaker 4>he needs to go to therapy. You don't just go

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:13.360
<v Speaker 4>to anger management classes. And then that's the end of

0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:16.920
<v Speaker 4>the story. You know, there's got to be another transition

0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:19.360
<v Speaker 4>and another phase out and it's only going to be helpful.

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:20.960
<v Speaker 1>But that has to come from your husband.

0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:23.240
<v Speaker 4>So why don't you have that conversation with your husband

0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:25.279
<v Speaker 4>and be like, listen, this is I'm putting a lot

0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 4>of effort here, you know. And also the self work

0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:30.320
<v Speaker 4>that you're talking about, like you know, letting him trie

0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 4>like you're doing a great job. So patch yourself on

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:36.759
<v Speaker 4>the back for that. This kid's not going to unmoor you.

0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:39.239
<v Speaker 4>He's not gonna you know, you're think of yourself as

0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:42.480
<v Speaker 4>a tree. You're a tree and there are leaves and

0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:45.160
<v Speaker 4>there are branches that might wave around through the wind

0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:47.880
<v Speaker 4>and storms, but you were firmly planted in the ground.

0:40:48.239 --> 0:40:51.920
<v Speaker 4>You've done your work, You're in recovery, and this is

0:40:52.080 --> 0:40:55.560
<v Speaker 4>just another way that you can like spread your love around,

0:40:56.239 --> 0:40:59.640
<v Speaker 4>you know, via him, with with all of the components

0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:02.200
<v Speaker 4>in play, and that being one of the major components

0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:02.800
<v Speaker 4>being therapy.

0:41:03.360 --> 0:41:03.719
<v Speaker 5>Thank you.

0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:07.360
<v Speaker 7>I do really appreciate that because I've really been trying

0:41:07.360 --> 0:41:11.279
<v Speaker 7>and yeah, on the start, it was a debate for me,

0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:13.000
<v Speaker 7>and inner debate of do I stay or do I

0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:17.439
<v Speaker 7>go because of just the trauma I've been through my life,

0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:20.480
<v Speaker 7>you know, being the seven and just mothering and parenting

0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:23.719
<v Speaker 7>is just I like my time being my time. I

0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:27.200
<v Speaker 7>like to have my freedom, and I mean I still

0:41:27.360 --> 0:41:28.920
<v Speaker 7>kind of have that. It was a it was a

0:41:28.960 --> 0:41:31.720
<v Speaker 7>real adjustment in the beginning last fall.

0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:32.799
<v Speaker 1>I bet, I bet.

0:41:32.960 --> 0:41:34.360
<v Speaker 3>I think one way to get a little bit of

0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:36.720
<v Speaker 3>time back is he's fifteen. He can do his own laundry.

0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Let's get that off your plate.

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:41.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you don't need to be cleaning

0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:45.640
<v Speaker 4>semen out of socks. That's that's yeah, below your pay grade.

0:41:46.120 --> 0:41:48.080
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Beth, will you check in with us and let

0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:48.360
<v Speaker 3>us know.

0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:48.920
<v Speaker 1>How it goes?

0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:51.640
<v Speaker 5>Yes, definitely, thank you. I just want to say thank

0:41:51.640 --> 0:41:52.120
<v Speaker 5>you so much.

0:41:52.160 --> 0:41:54.239
<v Speaker 7>And Chelsea, I look up to you so much and

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:58.040
<v Speaker 7>value your authenticity like I just, I really am so

0:41:58.080 --> 0:42:00.600
<v Speaker 7>grateful for this opportunity and I just I yeah, I

0:42:00.760 --> 0:42:02.080
<v Speaker 7>just You're an inspiration to me.

0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:03.000
<v Speaker 5>So thank you.

0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 1>I love it. Thank you so much. Thank you you.

0:42:06.200 --> 0:42:09.480
<v Speaker 2>As well, Hi beg. All right, well let's take a

0:42:09.560 --> 0:42:11.200
<v Speaker 2>quick break and we can come back with our caller.

0:42:11.320 --> 0:42:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, take a quick break, we'll be right back.

0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:16.400
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0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:20.320
<v Speaker 4>many about my special and my special is the newest

0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:22.000
<v Speaker 4>thing out, so I want to make sure all my

0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:24.879
<v Speaker 4>Ardent fans are watching it and tagging me and I'll

0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:31.520
<v Speaker 4>repost you. And yes, it's called the Feeling, And we're

0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:36.360
<v Speaker 4>back with Wendy McLendon covey. How I'm alifluous. It just

0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:37.640
<v Speaker 4>rolls right off, just.

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<v Speaker 2>Roll, you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Wendy McLendon covey.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Well, our last caller today is Alexandra. She is

0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:49.080
<v Speaker 3>thirty two. She says, Dear Chelsea, I am in a

0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:52.840
<v Speaker 3>very awkward situation with my neighbor. Me and my neighbor

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:55.720
<v Speaker 3>became friends this past year over our dogs. Becoming friends,

0:42:56.000 --> 0:42:59.399
<v Speaker 3>we started so annoying. We started going on dog walks

0:42:59.440 --> 0:43:02.719
<v Speaker 3>together and hanging out occasionally, having drinks and things like that.

0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:05.719
<v Speaker 3>We never had any issues until she slept with my

0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:09.320
<v Speaker 3>best friend Jack. When I found out they were texting,

0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:11.640
<v Speaker 3>I told them both they shouldn't sleep with each other

0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:13.839
<v Speaker 3>because it's going to make things very weird between all

0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:16.440
<v Speaker 3>of us, and boy did it. Essentially, they ended up

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:19.080
<v Speaker 3>sleeping together, both agreeing that it was a one night stand,

0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:21.400
<v Speaker 3>and after he didn't message her because it was a

0:43:21.400 --> 0:43:24.800
<v Speaker 3>one night stand, she started acting really weird. She started

0:43:24.800 --> 0:43:26.840
<v Speaker 3>to take her feelings out on me on our dog walks,

0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:29.759
<v Speaker 3>even though I asked not to be involved. Two times

0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:31.439
<v Speaker 3>she asked me if I wanted to go for a walk,

0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:33.760
<v Speaker 3>and the walk was perfectly fine, until out of nowhere

0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:36.440
<v Speaker 3>she corners me and says things like, I feel like

0:43:36.480 --> 0:43:38.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm just your dog walking friend and we never hang

0:43:38.680 --> 0:43:41.279
<v Speaker 3>out together on the weekends. She started to get really

0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:43.600
<v Speaker 3>possessive over me, to the point where I had some

0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 3>friends over for my birthday with my friend Jack included,

0:43:46.560 --> 0:43:49.680
<v Speaker 3>and she got really weird because she wasn't invited. I

0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:51.680
<v Speaker 3>decided that I needed to tell her she can't treat

0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:53.600
<v Speaker 3>me like shit like this before we go out, so

0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:56.920
<v Speaker 3>I replied to a text with the following, I wanted

0:43:56.920 --> 0:43:58.640
<v Speaker 3>to say this before we go out to walk again.

0:43:58.760 --> 0:44:00.799
<v Speaker 3>Since you and Jack slept together, you've taken some of

0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:02.800
<v Speaker 3>your feelings out on me, and I don't want another

0:44:02.840 --> 0:44:05.960
<v Speaker 3>awkward walk. Us being dog friends was never a problem

0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:07.840
<v Speaker 3>before you guys slept together, and I don't feel like

0:44:07.880 --> 0:44:10.160
<v Speaker 3>I should have to explain myself for having close friends

0:44:10.200 --> 0:44:13.040
<v Speaker 3>over for a party for you. Ntex Yeah, I'm cool

0:44:13.080 --> 0:44:15.480
<v Speaker 3>if you are. I never got a response, and this

0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:18.040
<v Speaker 3>was a little while ago. I feel we're both actively

0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:20.960
<v Speaker 3>avoiding each other, Chelsea, what do I do? Our windows

0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:27.520
<v Speaker 3>literally face each other. Alexandra Well, Hi, Hi, Alexandra Well,

0:44:27.560 --> 0:44:29.400
<v Speaker 3>good text, by the way, good text.

0:44:29.480 --> 0:44:32.120
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I don't know, you know, she has to

0:44:32.120 --> 0:44:34.279
<v Speaker 4>get over that. I don't know that there's anything you

0:44:34.280 --> 0:44:38.399
<v Speaker 4>can do other than like time will pass. But it's

0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:40.520
<v Speaker 4>gonna be a problem because Jack is your best friend,

0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:43.000
<v Speaker 4>so he's going to be resurfacing right.

0:44:43.200 --> 0:44:45.399
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, to always a little bit of timeless pass now,

0:44:45.520 --> 0:44:48.319
<v Speaker 6>but we've bumped into each other and like not said

0:44:48.320 --> 0:44:50.840
<v Speaker 6>a word because I'm like, I'm not going to back down,

0:44:51.480 --> 0:44:54.520
<v Speaker 6>and she probably feels the same. And yeah, they I

0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:56.880
<v Speaker 6>don't think they've spoken to each other either. They've probably

0:44:56.880 --> 0:45:00.279
<v Speaker 6>I think they said hi in passing, but I just

0:45:00.320 --> 0:45:04.600
<v Speaker 6>been like, no, like you can't just ghost me like that. Yeah,

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:07.359
<v Speaker 6>I feel like it's really a strange behavior. But I'm

0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:08.520
<v Speaker 6>also not backing down.

0:45:09.800 --> 0:45:12.320
<v Speaker 4>Well, but also who I mean, like really, who gives

0:45:12.320 --> 0:45:13.720
<v Speaker 4>a shit about her?

0:45:13.800 --> 0:45:14.719
<v Speaker 1>And you know what I mean?

0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:17.880
<v Speaker 4>You and your dogs, like like your dog has can

0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:19.359
<v Speaker 4>you can go for a walk without her?

0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:20.520
<v Speaker 6>You don't.

0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:22.600
<v Speaker 4>It's not like a relationship that is built, like you

0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:25.480
<v Speaker 4>have this deep, deep friendship like you were dog walking buddies.

0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:27.840
<v Speaker 4>So until she can actually get her shit together and

0:45:27.840 --> 0:45:30.719
<v Speaker 4>get over it, it was one night stand and that

0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:33.320
<v Speaker 4>take that face value people say all the time and

0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:35.399
<v Speaker 4>to fine with that, and then they're not fine with it,

0:45:35.880 --> 0:45:37.080
<v Speaker 4>and it's so annoying.

0:45:37.360 --> 0:45:39.000
<v Speaker 1>It's like you knew what.

0:45:38.960 --> 0:45:42.920
<v Speaker 4>This was, so I wouldn't worry about extending an olive

0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:45.920
<v Speaker 4>branch or anything. You know, after like a few months

0:45:45.960 --> 0:45:48.000
<v Speaker 4>go by you can like if you want to drop

0:45:48.040 --> 0:45:49.840
<v Speaker 4>a bottle of wine at our front door and be like,

0:45:50.080 --> 0:45:52.359
<v Speaker 4>are you ready to just start walking our dogs again

0:45:52.440 --> 0:45:53.479
<v Speaker 4>or do you need more time?

0:45:53.680 --> 0:45:53.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:55.359
<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean, Like you could do something

0:45:55.400 --> 0:45:57.560
<v Speaker 4>cute like that if you want to, but it sounds

0:45:57.600 --> 0:46:00.960
<v Speaker 4>like you don't want to. And by the way, who cares, Like, yes,

0:46:01.040 --> 0:46:03.680
<v Speaker 4>your windows face each other, but you know this is

0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:05.560
<v Speaker 4>why you don't become friends with your neighbors.

0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:09.720
<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, I definitely learned my lesson.

0:46:10.680 --> 0:46:13.000
<v Speaker 6>We had some new neighbors moving a couple days ago,

0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:17.839
<v Speaker 6>and now I was just like hello, and also and yeah,

0:46:17.880 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 6>you're so right. I don't really I've really stopped caring

0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:24.120
<v Speaker 6>about being friends. I think in the beginning it was

0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:27.239
<v Speaker 6>just really weird because our windows literally face each other,

0:46:27.560 --> 0:46:30.439
<v Speaker 6>and like her front door is right there, and I'll

0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:33.040
<v Speaker 6>see her leave and she'll see me leave, and it's

0:46:33.080 --> 0:46:35.440
<v Speaker 6>just like, yeah, I don't care, but our dogs will

0:46:35.520 --> 0:46:37.560
<v Speaker 6>just be like oh my god, you again and like

0:46:37.719 --> 0:46:41.080
<v Speaker 6>my friend like and then I'm just like, no, you

0:46:41.120 --> 0:46:46.080
<v Speaker 6>can't be friends anymore. This friendship's over. Yeah, And we

0:46:46.120 --> 0:46:48.439
<v Speaker 6>like bumped into each other out on a dog walk

0:46:48.480 --> 0:46:50.760
<v Speaker 6>and like nobody else was there. It was really weird.

0:46:50.800 --> 0:46:53.279
<v Speaker 6>It was like six in the morning, and like our

0:46:53.320 --> 0:46:55.239
<v Speaker 6>dogs were like playing with each other and we just

0:46:55.280 --> 0:46:56.759
<v Speaker 6>didn't say a word to each other.

0:46:56.880 --> 0:46:58.560
<v Speaker 2>And I was just like, this is so weird.

0:46:58.640 --> 0:47:00.640
<v Speaker 6>But yeah, I don't really want to be her friend,

0:47:00.680 --> 0:47:03.680
<v Speaker 6>if I'm honest with you, because clearly her friendships you

0:47:03.760 --> 0:47:07.040
<v Speaker 6>have to have like terms and conditions and I'm not

0:47:07.160 --> 0:47:09.120
<v Speaker 6>really do exactly.

0:47:08.840 --> 0:47:11.440
<v Speaker 1>And it's annoying, right, Wendy, don't you agree?

0:47:11.480 --> 0:47:13.560
<v Speaker 2>Like who I mean, it's hard when the dog children

0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:16.960
<v Speaker 2>get involved, I know, But the only thing you can do, Yeah,

0:47:16.960 --> 0:47:21.719
<v Speaker 2>the only sane thing to do is ignore the whole situation. Yeah,

0:47:21.840 --> 0:47:24.560
<v Speaker 2>she's an adult who made an adult decision, and this

0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:26.560
<v Speaker 2>does not have to fall on those shoulders.

0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:29.400
<v Speaker 4>She's an adult who made an adult decision and then

0:47:29.440 --> 0:47:32.399
<v Speaker 4>acted like is acting like a child. So and you

0:47:32.400 --> 0:47:34.880
<v Speaker 4>didn't do anything wrong except for warn them not to

0:47:34.920 --> 0:47:37.439
<v Speaker 4>do it because of this outcome and now you're sitting here.

0:47:37.680 --> 0:47:39.080
<v Speaker 1>You didn't do anything to her.

0:47:40.280 --> 0:47:42.759
<v Speaker 6>No, And I even tried, like before they when they

0:47:42.760 --> 0:47:45.600
<v Speaker 6>were talking about sleeping with each other, I had her

0:47:45.680 --> 0:47:48.400
<v Speaker 6>around and I did like the whole girl coaching, and

0:47:48.440 --> 0:47:51.239
<v Speaker 6>I was just like, I'm going to look after you here,

0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:53.080
<v Speaker 6>and I'm going to tell you not to do it

0:47:53.200 --> 0:47:57.120
<v Speaker 6>or please not to do it, because like and try

0:47:57.160 --> 0:47:58.640
<v Speaker 6>to say it in a nice way, like he is

0:47:58.840 --> 0:48:01.640
<v Speaker 6>my best friend and it wasn't like you're not, but

0:48:01.880 --> 0:48:05.120
<v Speaker 6>also like it just is going to get weird and

0:48:05.160 --> 0:48:07.640
<v Speaker 6>it's like, oh, but it isn't a little bit of fun, okay,

0:48:07.719 --> 0:48:09.760
<v Speaker 6>And I'm just like and I knew he just wanted

0:48:09.760 --> 0:48:12.080
<v Speaker 6>to one nice son anyway, and you made it perfectly clear.

0:48:12.719 --> 0:48:14.960
<v Speaker 6>And then I just had a feeling something crazy was

0:48:14.960 --> 0:48:16.560
<v Speaker 6>going to happen. And then they did it anyway, and

0:48:16.600 --> 0:48:18.080
<v Speaker 6>I was just like, look, I've warned you, and I

0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:21.280
<v Speaker 6>tried to be like the good girlfriend and you didn't listen,

0:48:21.400 --> 0:48:23.280
<v Speaker 6>and now you're just being really strange.

0:48:23.480 --> 0:48:26.000
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I feel like you don't have to be

0:48:26.040 --> 0:48:28.120
<v Speaker 3>friends with her, but just to like, you know, you've

0:48:28.160 --> 0:48:30.840
<v Speaker 3>said to her, hey, we're cool, and I would just

0:48:30.880 --> 0:48:33.080
<v Speaker 3>act as such like you are going to run into

0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:35.560
<v Speaker 3>her when you do like hey, so and so and like.

0:48:36.719 --> 0:48:39.439
<v Speaker 4>And she's were that's on her, Like I you don't

0:48:39.440 --> 0:48:41.440
<v Speaker 4>have to ingest that, you know what I mean? You be,

0:48:41.600 --> 0:48:43.960
<v Speaker 4>you do, you do your thing. You don't have to

0:48:44.000 --> 0:48:45.640
<v Speaker 4>be silent when you see you can say how are

0:48:45.640 --> 0:48:46.239
<v Speaker 4>you didn't know what?

0:48:46.520 --> 0:48:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Or did you read this or I don't know whatever.

0:48:48.600 --> 0:48:50.560
<v Speaker 4>You guys would normally talk about or talk about something

0:48:50.600 --> 0:48:53.160
<v Speaker 4>related to the dogs. But like, if she's acting strange,

0:48:53.160 --> 0:48:57.359
<v Speaker 4>then that's on her. You haven't done anything, yeah yeah, yeah,

0:48:57.440 --> 0:48:59.759
<v Speaker 4>and you warned her I.

0:49:01.920 --> 0:49:02.120
<v Speaker 6>Did.

0:49:02.880 --> 0:49:06.120
<v Speaker 2>You are absolved from any responsibility.

0:49:07.080 --> 0:49:10.480
<v Speaker 6>That's I think why I'm more mad than like sad.

0:49:11.280 --> 0:49:13.440
<v Speaker 6>I just got really angry because I was just like

0:49:13.520 --> 0:49:16.520
<v Speaker 6>I tried to do the right thing by you, and

0:49:16.840 --> 0:49:20.319
<v Speaker 6>really I really didn't need to clearly didn't need to

0:49:20.400 --> 0:49:21.640
<v Speaker 6>like try and look after you.

0:49:21.719 --> 0:49:28.000
<v Speaker 1>So thanks, Okay, Well problem solved. You need to move.

0:49:30.280 --> 0:49:31.479
<v Speaker 5>I keep hoping she will.

0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:34.640
<v Speaker 1>I hope she does too.

0:49:35.280 --> 0:49:37.680
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm sure she will, all right.

0:49:37.800 --> 0:49:40.240
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for being out in Alexandra.

0:49:40.480 --> 0:49:45.520
<v Speaker 6>Thank you so much, thank you bye bye.

0:49:45.640 --> 0:49:47.560
<v Speaker 4>That this reminds me of an expression from like one

0:49:47.560 --> 0:49:49.759
<v Speaker 4>of my second grade teachers who used to say a

0:49:49.800 --> 0:49:52.439
<v Speaker 4>word to the wise. Who did she say a word

0:49:52.480 --> 0:49:55.520
<v Speaker 4>to the wise? Should be sufficient? That reminded me The

0:49:55.600 --> 0:49:58.839
<v Speaker 4>story is like, don't talk to your neighbors. You know

0:49:59.320 --> 0:50:03.080
<v Speaker 4>you can be you can be neighborly, but don't get

0:50:03.080 --> 0:50:04.359
<v Speaker 4>involved with them.

0:50:04.400 --> 0:50:07.080
<v Speaker 2>Well, since since I'm in New Orleans, I do have

0:50:07.160 --> 0:50:12.320
<v Speaker 2>a folk magic sure or for sketchy neighbors.

0:50:12.560 --> 0:50:12.920
<v Speaker 6>What is it?

0:50:13.040 --> 0:50:15.920
<v Speaker 2>And that is you focus a mirror at their house

0:50:16.400 --> 0:50:19.480
<v Speaker 2>and all their bad energy gets reflected back to them.

0:50:19.920 --> 0:50:25.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh so, you know, depends on how bad they are,

0:50:25.160 --> 0:50:28.320
<v Speaker 2>how sketchy they really are, the you know, whatever happens

0:50:28.440 --> 0:50:30.520
<v Speaker 2>as a result. But we did that with some of

0:50:30.520 --> 0:50:31.680
<v Speaker 2>our neighbors and they moved.

0:50:33.480 --> 0:50:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Well.

0:50:33.840 --> 0:50:35.800
<v Speaker 4>Great, Wendy, wait to wait for the guests to be

0:50:35.920 --> 0:50:38.839
<v Speaker 4>off of the show to tell us that, especially when

0:50:38.840 --> 0:50:41.200
<v Speaker 4>they have two windows fucking facing each other.

0:50:41.400 --> 0:50:49.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, she's gonna listen to this podcast. Error doesn't have

0:50:49.080 --> 0:50:50.000
<v Speaker 2>to be a big one.

0:50:50.320 --> 0:50:53.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, exactly, and then you know that's a great that's great.

0:50:53.520 --> 0:50:58.360
<v Speaker 2>I would try it, try it. Yeah, that can happen.

0:50:58.800 --> 0:51:00.799
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Wendy, thank you so much for being on the

0:51:00.840 --> 0:51:01.720
<v Speaker 1>podcast today.

0:51:02.120 --> 0:51:03.239
<v Speaker 2>Thank you for having me.

0:51:03.440 --> 0:51:06.440
<v Speaker 4>And when does this have St. Dennis Medical Season two start?

0:51:06.560 --> 0:51:09.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, we start back at work in June, but

0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:13.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming the fall we will be back on NBC.

0:51:13.719 --> 0:51:14.960
<v Speaker 2>So awesome.

0:51:15.360 --> 0:51:17.839
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and is it Peacock or is it NBC? It's

0:51:18.000 --> 0:51:20.880
<v Speaker 4>NBC the first run and then the next day on Peacock.

0:51:21.239 --> 0:51:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so everybody can watch Saint Dennis Medical on.

0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:26.920
<v Speaker 4>NBC or Peacock and you can catch up on Peacock

0:51:27.200 --> 0:51:29.480
<v Speaker 4>and you can catch up on Peacock. Watch it first

0:51:29.520 --> 0:51:30.799
<v Speaker 4>and then catch up on it later.

0:51:31.160 --> 0:51:31.640
<v Speaker 2>Exactly.

0:51:32.080 --> 0:51:34.560
<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much for being here, love, Thanks for

0:51:34.560 --> 0:51:35.719
<v Speaker 4>having speaking with you.

0:51:36.200 --> 0:51:39.240
<v Speaker 1>All right, have a great day in New Orleans.

0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:42.160
<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Okay, have a good one as well. Talk

0:51:42.200 --> 0:51:42.600
<v Speaker 2>to you soon.

0:51:42.719 --> 0:51:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Bye. Okay.

0:51:44.560 --> 0:51:47.360
<v Speaker 4>My remaining dates for Vegas, there are remaining dates for

0:51:47.400 --> 0:51:53.440
<v Speaker 4>this year. Summertime is coming and I will be in

0:51:53.560 --> 0:51:57.880
<v Speaker 4>Vegas at the Cosmo doing my residency on July fifth.

0:51:57.920 --> 0:52:00.760
<v Speaker 4>We will be the next date that I'm there, July fifth,

0:52:00.840 --> 0:52:05.759
<v Speaker 4>August thirtieth, and then November one and twenty ninth. November

0:52:05.840 --> 0:52:09.200
<v Speaker 4>one and November twenty ninth, I will be in Las

0:52:09.320 --> 0:52:13.160
<v Speaker 4>Vegas at the Cosmo performing Inside Myself at the Chelsea.

0:52:13.360 --> 0:52:16.160
<v Speaker 1>It's called Chelsea at the Chelsea for a reason. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you.

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