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Speaker 1: Hi, Catherine, Hey, Chelsea.

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Speaker 2: Well, we have a great guest today.

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Speaker 3: Everyone knows her from Reno nine one one, Bridesmaid and

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Speaker 3: now Saint Dennis Medical and Wendy McClendon Covey's joining us now.

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Speaker 4: Hello.

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Speaker 2: Wendy, Hi, baby, Hi, Hi.

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Speaker 4: Hi, Wendy McClendon covey, Good morning, Good morning to you.

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Speaker 1: Was that your brother helping you set up your podcast?

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Speaker 2: That was my husband, my brother husband.

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Speaker 1: My brother husband. Hi, It's so nice to see you.

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Speaker 2: Where's good to see you.

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Speaker 4: I tried to see you at the night we were at

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Speaker 4: the Critics' Choice Awards together.

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Speaker 1: I saw you, but I didn't see you.

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Speaker 2: Good job with that PS.

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Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: That was amazing because you had the unenviable position of

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Speaker 2: having to make everybody happy after the city had burned

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Speaker 2: to the ground and that show had been rescheduled three times,

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Speaker 2: and you nailed it. You were fantastic. Thank you, Thank

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Speaker 2: you so much, Wendy. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: I'm Wendy and I share a gynecologist and his name

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Speaker 4: is David Allan Greer. So I first want to just

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Speaker 4: talk about your experience working with him, because I have

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Speaker 4: never ever been able, nor will I ever Wendy be

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Speaker 4: able to take that man seriously as an actor, as

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Speaker 4: a person, as a skier. I tried to ski with

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Speaker 1: I don't remember. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he tried to tell

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Speaker 4: And this was before I became the skier that I

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Speaker 1: Now, yeah you are, thank you, thank you. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: And I worked hard to get there, you know, like

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Speaker 4: I took it very seriously, like almost like a college degree.

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Speaker 4: But David, like the idiot that he is, and will

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Speaker 4: I have to give him a little bit of credit.

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Speaker 4: He's the one who got me back into skiing because

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Speaker 2: It must have been Aspen.

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Speaker 1: And he was like, oh, let's go skiing.

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Speaker 4: I said I don't have any ski clothes and was

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Speaker 1: We went skiing.

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Speaker 4: We went out for about an hour and a half

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Speaker 4: He was kind of the person that re introduced me

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Speaker 1: That I don't want to give him any credit beyond that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you're blowing my mind that he skis at all, Well,

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Speaker 2: him for a year or two, you've known him for

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Speaker 1: Or do something fun.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I don't know what's happened to him over the

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Speaker 4: Whenever I see him, I just think of that day

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Speaker 2: He is he really is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and tell me about what it's like working with him.

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, so you and I are roughly the same age.

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Speaker 2: So we both watched in Living Color. Uh huh right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Okay, you forgot to save my life.

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Speaker 4: So you respect him? Oh yes, yeah, that's the difference

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Speaker 2: I tell him. I think he needs to hear it.

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Speaker 4: But I like that you do respect him because he

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Speaker 4: Congrats on all the nominations you guys received. Well the Critics'

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Speaker 4: Choice nomination for sure, and congrats on CEAS and two.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 4: Also, congrats on being one of the funniest women out there,

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Speaker 4: because you make me fucking laugh what I mean a

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Speaker 4: lot of you. Yeah, you do. You make you make

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Speaker 4: everybody laugh. You're ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: You and Carrie.

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Speaker 4: Kenny Silver on Reno nine one one is just too

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Speaker 4: fucking funny.

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Speaker 1: These two are ridiculous together. Well, the whole cast of.

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Speaker 4: Rena nine one one deserves an award every year just forever.

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Speaker 1: Having done that show.

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Speaker 2: Well, you you have some fun with us, didn't you.

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Speaker 4: I did a guest star on that show years and

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Speaker 1: And that's really what I Those are the only kinds of.

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Speaker 2: Well, we were lucky to get you, and you were

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Speaker 2: you know, we never got fermits for anything. It was

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Speaker 2: but you said, oh, you can use mine. I'm turning

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Speaker 2: And it was like, that's a good girl, right there,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, all in the name of comedy, right, Wendy,

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Speaker 2: that's right, that's right.

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Speaker 4: So tell me about your life. What's happening, what's happening

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Speaker 4: in your personal life. So this is your husband brother

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Speaker 4: that set us your podcast for you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and right now we're in New Orleans.

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Speaker 2: We have the tiniest condo in the French Quarter and

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Speaker 4: I feel like there's always a festival happening in the

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Speaker 2: And when we got here there were three parades. Three parades.

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Speaker 2: We couldn't our cab couldn't even get us to our house.

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Speaker 2: I know I should have, just you know, disrobed.

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Speaker 4: Because I was recently when I always did a show

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Speaker 4: Oh you too, need to connect. You two would really

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Speaker 2: But do you you must go there a lot.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of like a slice of I remember looking

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Speaker 2: Amazing And you earned that, Thank you, You earned that.

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Speaker 1: Fucking high five, high fucking five right there.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the best thing that the thing that people

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Speaker 2: I never wanted them, but I liked barbies. I liked

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I prease. They they're too they're too young.

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Speaker 4: I think it's selfish to bring a child into this

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Speaker 4: You have to yearn for something the way that we

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Speaker 4: Do you want to go to my house in MAJORCA.

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Speaker 2: Well, my secret, my quote unquote secret is before I

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: It sounds like you chose very well for your personality.

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Speaker 2: He's just my everything. Oh, I was just born to

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Speaker 4: I love to hear that. That's so, it is very

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Speaker 2: Yes? I did. I did, but I learned my lessons quickly.

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Speaker 4: advice of like this is just not for you. Like

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Speaker 4: the sooner you learn these lessons, the happier and freer

440
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Speaker 4: you become as a person, and then the things, the

441
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Speaker 4: things that you want and think that you need come

442
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Speaker 4: to you without so much effort being put out.

443
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Speaker 2: No, you're one hundred percent right, And if you will

444
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Speaker 2: just do that kind of mental health cleaning, then you

445
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Speaker 2: make space for all that good stuff to come in.

446
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Speaker 2: But if you don't clean house, you're always blocking your blessings,

447
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 2: which I know is a very woo thing to say about.

448
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Speaker 4: No, no, No, you're in the perfect place to say no.

449
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Speaker 4: But that's okay. I'm wu wu too. I mean, you

450
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,879
Speaker 4: can't be you can't move to California, live here for

451
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Speaker 4: thirty years and not just fucking capitulate, you know what

452
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Speaker 4: I mean. I'm like, okay, I mean I'm two I'm

453
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Speaker 4: two easters away from celebrating that, you know. I mean,

454
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Speaker 4: that's and that's not wu woo. That's actually woo woo

455
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 4: to me now. Is that's what I consider wo wo

456
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 4: is like real religion. I'm like, okay, get away from

457
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 4: me with that. But what do you guys have to

458
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 4: talk about after thirty years together? Out of curiosity?

459
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Speaker 5: Is that?

460
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Speaker 2: Ever? God?

461
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Speaker 4: Just anything just so natural that you it doesn't even

462
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Speaker 4: it's not an issue because I have trouble keeping a

463
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Speaker 4: conversation with somebody I've been dating for ten months.

464
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the way to get around that, though,

465
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Speaker 2: is that silence is okay sometimes too.

466
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

467
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Speaker 2: You don't always have to be entertaining, No, you can

468
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 2: just sit there, it's fine. And then things do pop

469
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Speaker 2: up that you've never you know, stories you've never told before.

470
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Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just a it does seem like

471
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Speaker 2: you would run out of things to talk about, but

472
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Speaker 2: there are always things and I don't know how to

473
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Speaker 2: explain it, but it never gets boring.

474
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Speaker 4: Back to Saint Dennis Medical, do you guys do a

475
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Speaker 4: lot of improv on that show?

476
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Speaker 2: We do. We do. Our showrunner Eric Legend, he was

477
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Speaker 2: one of the creators of Superstore and American Auto and

478
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Speaker 2: stuff like that. He really does encourage us to get

479
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Speaker 2: it done the scripted way, and then we can improvise

480
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,959
Speaker 2: that there's just something we have to do and they

481
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Speaker 2: usually leave it in. They've been pretty generous with us,

482
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Speaker 2: and I have to say working on that show is

483
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Speaker 2: such a pleasure because our showrunners love their families and

484
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Speaker 2: want to go home at night. So if they don't,

485
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,959
Speaker 2: you know, for the listeners at home, if your showrunner

486
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Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily want to go home, you don't get to

487
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Speaker 2: go home either. So it's great because we're usually done

488
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Speaker 2: by six o'clock every night. Oh what a treat.

489
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Speaker 1: That is ideal. Yeah, in this business, that is very unusual.

490
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Speaker 2: I got the script for that show like four hours

491
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Speaker 2: after The Goldbergs was canceled, so I'm lucky it came

492
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Speaker 2: my way because it was in a during a year

493
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Speaker 2: where they just weren't making a lot of pilots at all.

494
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Speaker 2: I think they made four across network television. Yeah, this

495
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Speaker 2: one got picked up.

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Speaker 1: I remember that year.

497
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Speaker 4: I remember when they was like out of I mean

498
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Speaker 4: they used to make like twenty five pilots a year

499
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Speaker 4: and I don't pick up I don't know ten and

500
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Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, there was one year where

501
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Speaker 4: they made four fucking pilots and people were panicking about

502
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Speaker 4: the state of the industry.

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Speaker 1: So you were on the goldbergs for ten years, was it?

504
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

505
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Speaker 1: Ten years?

506
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Speaker 4: And you played a mother and I read that you

507
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Speaker 4: didn't want to play a mother again.

508
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Speaker 1: Isn't it funny? Even playing a mother's exhausting.

509
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean I had, look I play, I got

510
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Speaker 2: to relive the eighties again. So I've been in the

511
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Speaker 2: eighties for twenty years, all right, which I've had enough.

512
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Speaker 2: All Right, I get it. The eighties were fun. I

513
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 2: loved playing a mom, and now I understand like kind

514
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 2: of what my mom went through at that time, but

515
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Speaker 2: I got that out of my system playing, you know,

516
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Speaker 2: the overbearing mama, and I loved it, but I didn't

517
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Speaker 2: want to do it again, not for a while anyway. Right,

518
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 2: And so when I read this, you know the character

519
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 2: of Joyce the administrator, the hospital administrator, she's such an

520
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 2: odd ball that I found her irresistible and was like, yes,

521
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Speaker 2: I want to do this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean the role is so perfect for you,

523
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,479
Speaker 4: and you're so perfect in it. Thank you, absolutely, I

524
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 4: love you. I think you're just so fucking funny, I mean.

525
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Speaker 1: So talented than you, Chelsea.

526
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Speaker 2: Thank you.

527
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Speaker 4: Okay, we're going to take a break and we'll be

528
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Speaker 4: right back with Wendy McClendon covey and her brother husband.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 4: And we're back with Wendy McLendon covey. Okay, Wendy, we're

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Speaker 4: going to take some callers. Okay, we're your goat advice here.

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Speaker 1: So Catherine, what do we have today?

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Speaker 3: Well, our first email comes from Andrea. The subject is

534
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Speaker 3: twenty six year old virgin Dear Chelsea, my daughter just

535
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 3: came to visit me for a couple of weeks. My

536
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 3: daughter is beautiful, thoughtful, and smart. She graduated college, went

537
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 3: to cooking school, and is now working successfully as a chef.

538
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 3: Whenever I ask the subject of dating is always changed

539
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 3: to another subject or answered with a one word answer.

540
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 3: She never has a boyfriend and never has and never

541
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Speaker 3: really even kissed someone. And I'm just at a loss

542
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Speaker 3: as to why. I asked her if she was asexual

543
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 3: and she said no, She's only getting older and I

544
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Speaker 3: don't want her to be alone and never see what

545
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 3: joy being in a relationship will.

546
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Speaker 2: Bring, let alone sex. I don't know what to do

547
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Speaker 2: or say.

548
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 3: Please help coming from her loving mom who only wants

549
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Speaker 3: the best for her, Andrea.

550
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Speaker 1: Is she gay?

551
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 4: Is your daughter a lesbian? And do you have feelings

552
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Speaker 4: about her being lesbian that are preventing her from being

553
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Speaker 4: truthful to you about being a lesbian? Asexual? Isn't the

554
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 4: only question to be asking this?

555
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Speaker 2: No, totally, totally, you know what I mean.

556
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Speaker 4: Like, if she's asking she's a sexual, she's asked her

557
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Speaker 4: she's gay. She didn't mention that part, and she keeps

558
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 4: mentioning a man, not a person, right, right, So maybe

559
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Speaker 4: she's a lesbian, So maybe you should think about that

560
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 4: or I don't know. Do you know a lot of

561
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 4: asexual people, Wendy, I do know a couple.

562
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Speaker 2: I know a couple, I know a couple and look,

563
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Speaker 2: she's twenty six. She could be just very picky. She

564
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 2: could be gay, that was my first thought as well.

565
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Speaker 2: Or she might have a secret life that you don't

566
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Speaker 2: know anything about sunds.

567
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Speaker 1: Like, that's prob. Or she could be a totally late bloomer.

568
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Speaker 4: You know, some people don't really come into their own

569
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Speaker 4: until they're in their thirties, like sexually. First of all,

570
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Speaker 4: you don't even come into your own sexually until you're

571
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Speaker 4: like forties and fifties for a lot of women, So

572
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 4: that could be something too. But definitely, you pushing her

573
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 4: is not going to put her in a relationship that

574
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Speaker 4: has no impact whatsoever on anyone. I would leave the

575
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Speaker 4: situation alone for as long as possible until she comes

576
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Speaker 4: to you with some information that allows you to ask

577
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Speaker 4: further questions. But I would also put it out there

578
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Speaker 4: that if she is a lesbian, if she is a sexual,

579
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Speaker 4: if she does have some secret life that she doesn't

580
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Speaker 4: want you to know about, that you are okay with

581
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Speaker 4: that because you.

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Speaker 3: Have to be Yeah, yeah, I mean, and some people,

583
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Speaker 3: I think dating now is so intimidate weird.

584
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Speaker 2: It's weird.

585
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 4: It's like we went full tilt on the dating apps

586
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 4: and everyone went bonkers, and now there's like a contraction,

587
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 4: like people are so disgusted by dating apps and by

588
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 4: what's available out there that people are like, I'd rather

589
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Speaker 4: be alone.

590
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Speaker 1: So I think we're in that phase of things.

591
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 4: And plus, our younger generations are not as sexually active

592
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 4: as we were because there's so much porn and everything,

593
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 4: so they actually don't need to get it, you know,

594
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 4: So there's this possibility that she's a sexual.

595
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 6: Yeah.

596
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Speaker 4: Also just leave her alone, Like, there's nothing that's sexy

597
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 4: about talking to your mother about sex. Yeah, that's not

598
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 4: going to probe her. I mean, that's not going to

599
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 4: push her. Sorry to say probe. That's not trying to

600
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 4: true into anything. So back off, mom, Back off.

601
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Speaker 2: Our first caller today is Beth. She is thirty.

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Speaker 3: Dear Chelsea, I've been with my partner for almost seven years.

603
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Speaker 3: I'm thirty and he's fifty two. I'm biologically child free. However,

604
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,479
Speaker 3: last summer, my partner's teenage son moved in with us

605
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 3: full time from the West Coast to the southeast because

606
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 3: he was expelled from his school and was having various

607
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 3: behavioral challenges. The transition was extremely challenging for me personally,

608
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 3: as someone who has no desire to have kids, so

609
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 3: much so that I got my tubes removed earlier this year.

610
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 3: But I also did it for our relationship, as my

611
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 3: partner and I have different ideas of parenting. At times,

612
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 3: I do think his son is a good person at heart,

613
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 3: but his communication is regularly disrespectful and loud. He doesn't

614
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 3: ever take accountability, which is super triggering for me. My

615
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 3: partner and I have been in couple's therapy for co parenting,

616
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 3: which has been helpful for the relationship, but I still

617
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 3: find myself frustrated with his son's behavior. I absolutely loved

618
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 3: your book and how you wrote about your relationship with POOPSI, Whoopsie,

619
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Speaker 3: and Oopsie. It really touched me, and I admire how

620
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 3: you built a relationship with them and became such an

621
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Speaker 3: influence in their life. So my question is this, when

622
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Speaker 3: I'm so frustrated with my partner's son's behavior, how do

623
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 3: I get over my frustration and irritability? What do you

624
00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 3: think I can or should do to build a us

625
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 3: relationship with him. I've been in his life since he

626
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 3: was seven. We've gone on vacations together, we play video games,

627
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 3: sometimes I drive in places. Do his laundry, occasionally cook

628
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 3: family dinner for the three of us nightly, among other things.

629
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 3: But I'm still struggling with the relationship dynamic I have

630
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 3: with his son. Please help me be a better step mom.

631
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Speaker 3: I'd like to have what you're having.

632
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Speaker 1: Love you so much, Beth, Hi, Beth, Hi, Chelsea.

633
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Speaker 4: Hi, this is Wendy McClendon Covey, our special guest today.

634
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Speaker 6: Hi.

635
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Speaker 2: Hi, Bed Yeah, nice, see too.

636
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 4: That's nice that you're I mean, first of all, it's

637
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 4: very nice that you're trying so hard and that you

638
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 4: want to try hard, you know, and that is a

639
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 4: difficult situation.

640
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Speaker 1: How old is he again?

641
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Speaker 5: He is fifteen.

642
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 7: Okay, it was hard in the beginning when he first came,

643
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 7: I was kind of on the fence because it was

644
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 7: so hard because I'm the oldest of seven kids. So

645
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 7: that was also that's like just a component of life.

646
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: Like you've done your mothering.

647
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's was hard, kind of is.

648
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Speaker 7: But now I'm more in those spirit of like, Okay,

649
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 7: I'm trying to give this a try and just fully

650
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 7: embrace it. And when I get so irritable and frustrated,

651
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 7: like this is kind of also been a hard week,

652
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 7: it makes me I don't want to say, not want

653
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 7: to try, but it makes me feel just overwhelmed.

654
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 4: And is he how like what level of disrespect does

655
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Speaker 4: he exhibit to you towards you.

656
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 7: So he'll get I mean, he's a teenager, so I

657
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 7: know teenagers have attitudes, but he'll have an attitude or

658
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 7: a whole talk back. He also doesn't know when enough

659
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 7: is enough or like when to stop. So like, for example,

660
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 7: this weekend, we went to the beach and you know,

661
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 7: hoarsing around. We had fun, and then it's like, okay,

662
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 7: we're done. But all throughout the rest of the day

663
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 7: he kept antagonizing and just hitting me. And then I

664
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 7: was laying in bed Saturday night with my partner and

665
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 7: he comes in and like hits me on the head,

666
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 7: like thinking he's joking, and I'm like, I'm trying.

667
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 5: To go to sleep enough. So it's just also just

668
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 5: like not knowing when enough is enough.

669
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: Uh.

670
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 5: And I'm also someone that stays very calm.

671
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 7: I don't like yelling, whereas my partner, you know, they'll

672
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 7: get in arguments and yell, and so when I say

673
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 7: something to him or point out, you know, hey, your

674
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 7: dad is trying to tell you x Y z he

675
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 7: then will shut down or who'll become nasty back towards me.

676
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Sounds like a typical teenager.

677
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, And sometimes I see a lot of myself in him,

678
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 7: Like when I was a teenager, I was also very

679
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 7: like headstrong, so I relate to him on some levels.

680
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 7: We're also both libras, if that means anything to you, but.

681
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 2: I'm a lilybra as well.

682
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 4: I go, yeah, let's go great, because I I don't

683
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:45,959
Speaker 4: get it.

684
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means.

685
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 5: Just balance and yeah, wanting balance and stuff, but right right.

686
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's just I think it's been hard also because

687
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 7: I don't want kids for a very very you know,

688
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 7: long list of reasons. So yeah, I'm just not sure

689
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 7: what to do in terms of how to not be.

690
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 5: So triggered and frustrated.

691
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 7: Because I'm also in my own recovery for mental health,

692
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 7: so personal responsibility and accountability to me means a lot,

693
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 7: and it's very, very frustrating to try to build awareness

694
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 7: around him of like how to take accountability like he's getting.

695
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 7: He gets in arguments with teachers a lot, and it's

696
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 7: always the other person's fault, So I think that's that's

697
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 7: hard for me.

698
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 4: Too, Yeah, that's annoying well, and but also again he's

699
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 4: fifteen years old, so his brain isn't fully formed yet, right,

700
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 4: and it's not going to be for unfortunately for another

701
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 4: ten years because he's a man. So that's like what

702
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 4: twenty five twenty six was when their brain's fully formed?

703
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: Is that right?

704
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 2: Yep?

705
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: Or is it later?

706
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 3: I want to say, like twenty five to twenty is

707
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 3: when you're like frontal lobe is done cooking.

708
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 4: What I've learned when I took my parenting classes for poopsie,

709
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 4: woopsie and oopsie, what I've learned is like you know,

710
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 4: when they're they're combative, it's different with a boy. So well,

711
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 4: when they are combative, it's like you have to be

712
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 4: in a joking mood with them, Like you can't meet

713
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 4: their anger with anger, like your husband yelling at him

714
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 4: when in him yelling like that doesn't do anything. That

715
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,719
Speaker 4: just keeps the cycle going and it's like a storm

716
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 4: in the sky that's just moving around in different areas.

717
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 4: But when you meet their anger with like, yeah, I

718
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 4: hear you. You sound pissed off. You must be pissed. Yeah,

719
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 4: you sound really pissed off, not validating his feelings, but

720
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 4: acknowledging how he feels, you know what I mean, not

721
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 4: saying you're right and that your feeling is justified by like, wow,

722
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 4: you do seem really pissed off, you know, let me

723
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 4: give you some space, or like, okay, well, I'll be

724
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 4: over here when you calm down, you know, when you

725
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 4: want to talk about it. If you want to talk

726
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 4: about it, I'm here. You don't have to whatever. Like

727
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 4: you just kind of throw it back at them in

728
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 4: the moment that they're in, so that you're not ignoring

729
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 4: their feelings and it actually makes you feel better because

730
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 4: you're What we tend to do, I think when we're

731
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 4: dealing with other people's children is take things so personally

732
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 4: and it's not personal. Like they're going through puberty. They

733
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 4: have all these hormones raging through their bodies. Their temper

734
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 4: is not their own, their emotions are not their own.

735
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 4: You know, it's a period in their life where they're

736
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 4: just uncontrolled. It doesn't happen as badly with every teenager,

737
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 4: but it happens a lot and it sounds like that's

738
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 4: what's happening with him, you know, And in the moments

739
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 4: of calm is when you can kind of point things out.

740
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 4: And since you're a stepmom, it's a very specific dance

741
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 4: of being like, you know, you want to be like

742
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 4: a cool person in their life that they can come to.

743
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 4: You want to like open up that avenue and be like, listen,

744
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 4: I know this is frustrating, but like, let when you

745
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 4: want to talk about it, if you ever do want

746
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 4: to talk about it, I'm here. I'm always here for you,

747
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 4: you know, and not to like impose yourself on them,

748
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 4: but to make sure. And it sounds like you're doing

749
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 4: all those things. You're spending time with him, You're cooking

750
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 4: dinners every night, do all of the things that put

751
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 4: the marbles in the jar so that he knows he

752
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 4: has an ally and someone he can rely on. And

753
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 4: like the instance of him coming in and smacking you

754
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 4: on the head in the bedroom when you're done playing,

755
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 4: like how did you react in that moment?

756
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 7: I just turned over slowly and looked at him, and

757
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 7: I was like really, like just I didn't yell at

758
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 7: him or it was like what did I doing?

759
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 5: Why did you?

760
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 7: I just acknowledged maybe this isn't the time and place,

761
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 7: like it's nine o'clock at night, we had fun at

762
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 7: the beach earlier, but you know, and his dad has

763
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 7: noticed the same thing, Like they'll rough house and they'll

764
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 7: play around, but then it's still the same of like

765
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 7: he doesn't know when to stop, and if we try to,

766
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 7: I don't want to say, he gets stern, but like

767
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 7: more serious of like okay, hey, it's time to stop.

768
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 7: Then that triggers him and he gets upset and then

769
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 7: is like, oh, you guys are no fun.

770
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 5: Or you know, why do you always have a problem, And.

771
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 1: It's like, no, it's just because he's embarrassed.

772
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 4: He's embarrassed to get like so how did you react

773
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 4: when you did that, when you turned over and you

774
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 4: gave him that look, did he get the message?

775
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 5: He just walked out great.

776
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 4: Great, But that's the result you want, like end of that,

777
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, without an argument?

778
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: He got the message.

779
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 4: So I think you're doing a good job with the

780
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 4: way you're handling it, by not losing your temper, by

781
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 4: being available when they need you.

782
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: And you know, when he.

783
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 4: Gets in fights with his teachers repetitively, it's not about like, oh,

784
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 4: you know, what's your part in this?

785
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: Because he's not there yet. He's only fifteen years old.

786
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: But it's just acknowledging.

787
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, that must be really tough, without laying blame on

788
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 4: either person, him or the teacher. Be sure that you're

789
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 4: not doing that, you know, which it doesn't sound like

790
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 4: you are. But by just being available, available for the

791
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 4: good moods, for the bad moods, being around there, don't

792
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 4: allow yourself to be a punching bag. But that doesn't

793
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 4: warrant fight either. You can just say I'm sorry, I'm

794
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 4: not interested in this right now. Like you're kind of

795
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 4: being aggressive, that's fine, you're in a mood. I'm going

796
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 4: to go over there, or I'm going to go to

797
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 4: my room, and then when you're ready to talk, come

798
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 4: get me. I'm always here that kind of attitude. Do

799
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 4: you get what I'm saying?

800
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I do that that makes sense.

801
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 7: And I think because it's it's like I want to

802
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 7: be a support for him, which I think I am, but.

803
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: I like it sounds like you definitely are.

804
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 6: Yeah.

805
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 5: I try.

806
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 7: And I've known him since, like I said, I you seven,

807
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 7: and you know, we've had instances where Who'll just come

808
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 7: and talk to me and start telling me stuff about

809
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 7: girls or whatever is going on in school and we've

810
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 7: had some good conversations like why he thinks he lies

811
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 7: and why he thinks he does and thinks he does.

812
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 7: And I've noticed that if he is not being yelled at,

813
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 7: he is also more inclined to be calm, which is,

814
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 7: you know, the ideal.

815
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 4: Well, of course, I mean everyone's going to be more

816
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 4: common they're not being yelled at. Yeah, what do you think, Wendy.

817
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: Well, first question, are they in therapy together?

818
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 7: He was in anger management classes when he lived back

819
00:37:58,560 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 7: out on the West Coast.

820
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 5: And I'm a big proponent for therapy. I wish he

821
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 5: would do it, that his dad would kind of push

822
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 5: to do it. He thinks he doesn't need it, Okay, Well,

823
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 5: two of.

824
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: Them need to be in therapy together.

825
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: I think Yeah, I think so too. I think that's

826
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 1: a great idea.

827
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 2: And I'm I am a little concerned that you have

828
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 2: been adamant about how you don't want kids, but you

829
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 2: are taking on this mother role. I don't know that

830
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 2: that just kind of stuck out to me, like hmm,

831
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, Beth.

832
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 4: I think, at the very minimum, the least that your

833
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 4: husband can do in exchange for you taking on this

834
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 4: role that you did not seek out for yourself would

835
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 4: be to mandate that there is a you know, therapy

836
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,720
Speaker 4: like that, that he goes to therapy with his son,

837
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 4: or that his son go alone. He's the father, the

838
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 4: kid is fifteen. He doesn't really have a choice.

839
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter that a.

840
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: Fifteen year old doesn't think they need therapy.

841
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 4: That's just in valle you know, like, and that has

842
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 4: to be on him, and you know what I mean,

843
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 4: that has nothing to do with you. It can't be

844
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 4: coming from you. It has to be coming from his father.

845
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 4: And that could be an easy requirement. He wasn't living

846
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 4: with you guys, and he was going to anger managements.

847
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 4: That's a sign that he should be continuing in the

848
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 4: direction of therapy in some capacity for sure.

849
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. And you shouldn't be the only one doing all

850
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: the inner work. You know, you're in recovery. You said

851
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: so that that can be very triggering. And I feel

852
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 2: like that's the biggest piece of the puzzle is the

853
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 2: two of them need to work on this together.

854
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 4: So can you talk to your husband about that? Do

855
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 4: you feel comfortable having that conversation?

856
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, And I think you might be open

857
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 5: to it.

858
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 7: I hadn't thought about that before of both of them

859
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 7: going together, because like my partner, we were together in therapy,

860
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 7: which we've only what we've been doing it for about

861
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 7: three months now, which it's it's been helpful, but he's

862
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 7: admitted and knows he parents from a place of guilt

863
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 7: of like dad guilt.

864
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 5: But that's that's in stuff he needs to deal with.

865
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 6: Not me.

866
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, and and and he should and that kid should

867
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 4: just be going to therapy on his own anyway. You know,

868
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 4: it sounds like he's been uprooted and moved around, like

869
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 4: he needs to go to therapy. You don't just go

870
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 4: to anger management classes. And then that's the end of

871
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 4: the story. You know, there's got to be another transition

872
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 4: and another phase out and it's only going to be helpful.

873
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: But that has to come from your husband.

874
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 4: So why don't you have that conversation with your husband

875
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 4: and be like, listen, this is I'm putting a lot

876
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 4: of effort here, you know. And also the self work

877
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 4: that you're talking about, like you know, letting him trie

878
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 4: like you're doing a great job. So patch yourself on

879
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 4: the back for that. This kid's not going to unmoor you.

880
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 4: He's not gonna you know, you're think of yourself as

881
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 4: a tree. You're a tree and there are leaves and

882
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 4: there are branches that might wave around through the wind

883
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 4: and storms, but you were firmly planted in the ground.

884
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 4: You've done your work, You're in recovery, and this is

885
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 4: just another way that you can like spread your love around,

886
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 4: you know, via him, with with all of the components

887
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 4: in play, and that being one of the major components

888
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 4: being therapy.

889
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 5: Thank you.

890
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 7: I do really appreciate that because I've really been trying

891
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 7: and yeah, on the start, it was a debate for me,

892
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 7: and inner debate of do I stay or do I

893
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:17,439
Speaker 7: go because of just the trauma I've been through my life,

894
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 7: you know, being the seven and just mothering and parenting

895
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 7: is just I like my time being my time. I

896
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 7: like to have my freedom, and I mean I still

897
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 7: kind of have that. It was a it was a

898
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,720
Speaker 7: real adjustment in the beginning last fall.

899
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: I bet, I bet.

900
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 3: I think one way to get a little bit of

901
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,720
Speaker 3: time back is he's fifteen. He can do his own laundry.

902
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: Let's get that off your plate.

903
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you don't need to be cleaning

904
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 4: semen out of socks. That's that's yeah, below your pay grade.

905
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 3: Okay, Beth, will you check in with us and let

906
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 3: us know.

907
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: How it goes?

908
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 5: Yes, definitely, thank you. I just want to say thank

909
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 5: you so much.

910
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 7: And Chelsea, I look up to you so much and

911
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 7: value your authenticity like I just, I really am so

912
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 7: grateful for this opportunity and I just I yeah, I

913
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 7: just You're an inspiration to me.

914
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Speaker 5: So thank you.

915
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: I love it. Thank you so much. Thank you you.

916
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 2: As well, Hi beg. All right, well let's take a

917
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 2: quick break and we can come back with our caller.

918
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: Okay, well, take a quick break, we'll be right back.

919
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 4: Please tag me for the Special because I get so

920
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 4: many tags about my books, but I'm not getting as

921
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 4: many about my special and my special is the newest

922
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 4: thing out, so I want to make sure all my

923
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 4: Ardent fans are watching it and tagging me and I'll

924
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 4: repost you. And yes, it's called the Feeling, And we're

925
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 4: back with Wendy McLendon covey. How I'm alifluous. It just

926
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 4: rolls right off, just.

927
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Speaker 2: Roll, you know what.

928
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Wendy McLendon covey.

929
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Speaker 3: Yes, Well, our last caller today is Alexandra. She is

930
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 3: thirty two. She says, Dear Chelsea, I am in a

931
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 3: very awkward situation with my neighbor. Me and my neighbor

932
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 3: became friends this past year over our dogs. Becoming friends,

933
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 3: we started so annoying. We started going on dog walks

934
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 3: together and hanging out occasionally, having drinks and things like that.

935
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 3: We never had any issues until she slept with my

936
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 3: best friend Jack. When I found out they were texting,

937
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 3: I told them both they shouldn't sleep with each other

938
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 3: because it's going to make things very weird between all

939
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 3: of us, and boy did it. Essentially, they ended up

940
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 3: sleeping together, both agreeing that it was a one night stand,

941
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 3: and after he didn't message her because it was a

942
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 3: one night stand, she started acting really weird. She started

943
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 3: to take her feelings out on me on our dog walks,

944
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 3: even though I asked not to be involved. Two times

945
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,439
Speaker 3: she asked me if I wanted to go for a walk,

946
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 3: and the walk was perfectly fine, until out of nowhere

947
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 3: she corners me and says things like, I feel like

948
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 3: I'm just your dog walking friend and we never hang

949
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 3: out together on the weekends. She started to get really

950
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 3: possessive over me, to the point where I had some

951
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 3: friends over for my birthday with my friend Jack included,

952
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 3: and she got really weird because she wasn't invited. I

953
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 3: decided that I needed to tell her she can't treat

954
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 3: me like shit like this before we go out, so

955
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 3: I replied to a text with the following, I wanted

956
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 3: to say this before we go out to walk again.

957
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 3: Since you and Jack slept together, you've taken some of

958
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 3: your feelings out on me, and I don't want another

959
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 3: awkward walk. Us being dog friends was never a problem

960
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 3: before you guys slept together, and I don't feel like

961
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 3: I should have to explain myself for having close friends

962
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 3: over for a party for you. Ntex Yeah, I'm cool

963
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 3: if you are. I never got a response, and this

964
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 3: was a little while ago. I feel we're both actively

965
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 3: avoiding each other, Chelsea, what do I do? Our windows

966
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 3: literally face each other. Alexandra Well, Hi, Hi, Alexandra Well,

967
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 3: good text, by the way, good text.

968
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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, you know, she has to

969
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 4: get over that. I don't know that there's anything you

970
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 4: can do other than like time will pass. But it's

971
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 4: gonna be a problem because Jack is your best friend,

972
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 4: so he's going to be resurfacing right.

973
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, to always a little bit of timeless pass now,

974
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 6: but we've bumped into each other and like not said

975
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 6: a word because I'm like, I'm not going to back down,

976
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 6: and she probably feels the same. And yeah, they I

977
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 6: don't think they've spoken to each other either. They've probably

978
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 6: I think they said hi in passing, but I just

979
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 6: been like, no, like you can't just ghost me like that. Yeah,

980
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 6: I feel like it's really a strange behavior. But I'm

981
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 6: also not backing down.

982
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 4: Well, but also who I mean, like really, who gives

983
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 4: a shit about her?

984
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: And you know what I mean?

985
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 4: You and your dogs, like like your dog has can

986
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 4: you can go for a walk without her?

987
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 6: You don't.

988
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 4: It's not like a relationship that is built, like you

989
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 4: have this deep, deep friendship like you were dog walking buddies.

990
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 4: So until she can actually get her shit together and

991
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 4: get over it, it was one night stand and that

992
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 4: take that face value people say all the time and

993
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 4: to fine with that, and then they're not fine with it,

994
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 4: and it's so annoying.

995
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: It's like you knew what.

996
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 4: This was, so I wouldn't worry about extending an olive

997
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 4: branch or anything. You know, after like a few months

998
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 4: go by you can like if you want to drop

999
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 4: a bottle of wine at our front door and be like,

1000
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 4: are you ready to just start walking our dogs again

1001
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:53,479
Speaker 4: or do you need more time?

1002
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1003
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, Like you could do something

1004
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 4: cute like that if you want to, but it sounds

1005
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 4: like you don't want to. And by the way, who cares, Like, yes,

1006
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 4: your windows face each other, but you know this is

1007
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 4: why you don't become friends with your neighbors.

1008
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I definitely learned my lesson.

1009
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 6: We had some new neighbors moving a couple days ago,

1010
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 6: and now I was just like hello, and also and yeah,

1011
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 6: you're so right. I don't really I've really stopped caring

1012
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 6: about being friends. I think in the beginning it was

1013
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 6: just really weird because our windows literally face each other,

1014
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 6: and like her front door is right there, and I'll

1015
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 6: see her leave and she'll see me leave, and it's

1016
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 6: just like, yeah, I don't care, but our dogs will

1017
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 6: just be like oh my god, you again and like

1018
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 6: my friend like and then I'm just like, no, you

1019
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 6: can't be friends anymore. This friendship's over. Yeah, And we

1020
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,439
Speaker 6: like bumped into each other out on a dog walk

1021
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 6: and like nobody else was there. It was really weird.

1022
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 6: It was like six in the morning, and like our

1023
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 6: dogs were like playing with each other and we just

1024
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 6: didn't say a word to each other.

1025
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 2: And I was just like, this is so weird.

1026
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 6: But yeah, I don't really want to be her friend,

1027
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 6: if I'm honest with you, because clearly her friendships you

1028
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 6: have to have like terms and conditions and I'm not

1029
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 6: really do exactly.

1030
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: And it's annoying, right, Wendy, don't you agree?

1031
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 2: Like who I mean, it's hard when the dog children

1032
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 2: get involved, I know, But the only thing you can do, Yeah,

1033
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 2: the only sane thing to do is ignore the whole situation. Yeah,

1034
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 2: she's an adult who made an adult decision, and this

1035
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 2: does not have to fall on those shoulders.

1036
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 4: She's an adult who made an adult decision and then

1037
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 4: acted like is acting like a child. So and you

1038
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 4: didn't do anything wrong except for warn them not to

1039
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,439
Speaker 4: do it because of this outcome and now you're sitting here.

1040
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: You didn't do anything to her.

1041
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 6: No, And I even tried, like before they when they

1042
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 6: were talking about sleeping with each other, I had her

1043
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 6: around and I did like the whole girl coaching, and

1044
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 6: I was just like, I'm going to look after you here,

1045
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 6: and I'm going to tell you not to do it

1046
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 6: or please not to do it, because like and try

1047
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 6: to say it in a nice way, like he is

1048
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 6: my best friend and it wasn't like you're not, but

1049
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 6: also like it just is going to get weird and

1050
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 6: it's like, oh, but it isn't a little bit of fun, okay,

1051
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 6: And I'm just like and I knew he just wanted

1052
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 6: to one nice son anyway, and you made it perfectly clear.

1053
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 6: And then I just had a feeling something crazy was

1054
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 6: going to happen. And then they did it anyway, and

1055
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 6: I was just like, look, I've warned you, and I

1056
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 6: tried to be like the good girlfriend and you didn't listen,

1057
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 6: and now you're just being really strange.

1058
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, I feel like you don't have to be

1059
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 3: friends with her, but just to like, you know, you've

1060
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 3: said to her, hey, we're cool, and I would just

1061
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 3: act as such like you are going to run into

1062
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 3: her when you do like hey, so and so and like.

1063
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 4: And she's were that's on her, Like I you don't

1064
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 4: have to ingest that, you know what I mean? You be,

1065
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 4: you do, you do your thing. You don't have to

1066
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 4: be silent when you see you can say how are

1067
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 4: you didn't know what?

1068
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: Or did you read this or I don't know whatever.

1069
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 4: You guys would normally talk about or talk about something

1070
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 4: related to the dogs. But like, if she's acting strange,

1071
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 4: then that's on her. You haven't done anything, yeah yeah, yeah,

1072
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 4: and you warned her I.

1073
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 6: Did.

1074
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 2: You are absolved from any responsibility.

1075
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 6: That's I think why I'm more mad than like sad.

1076
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 6: I just got really angry because I was just like

1077
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 6: I tried to do the right thing by you, and

1078
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 6: really I really didn't need to clearly didn't need to

1079
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 6: like try and look after you.

1080
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: So thanks, Okay, Well problem solved. You need to move.

1081
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:31,479
Speaker 5: I keep hoping she will.

1082
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: I hope she does too.

1083
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm sure she will, all right.

1084
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,240
Speaker 2: Thanks for being out in Alexandra.

1085
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 6: Thank you so much, thank you bye bye.

1086
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 4: That this reminds me of an expression from like one

1087
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 4: of my second grade teachers who used to say a

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Speaker 4: word to the wise. Who did she say a word

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Speaker 4: to the wise? Should be sufficient? That reminded me The

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Speaker 4: story is like, don't talk to your neighbors. You know

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Speaker 4: you can be you can be neighborly, but don't get

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Speaker 4: involved with them.

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Speaker 2: Well, since since I'm in New Orleans, I do have

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Speaker 2: a folk magic sure or for sketchy neighbors.

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Speaker 6: What is it?

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Speaker 2: And that is you focus a mirror at their house

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Speaker 2: and all their bad energy gets reflected back to them.

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Speaker 2: Oh so, you know, depends on how bad they are,

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Speaker 2: how sketchy they really are, the you know, whatever happens

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Speaker 2: as a result. But we did that with some of

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Speaker 2: our neighbors and they moved.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 4: Great, Wendy, wait to wait for the guests to be

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Speaker 4: off of the show to tell us that, especially when

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Speaker 4: they have two windows fucking facing each other.

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Speaker 2: Well, she's gonna listen to this podcast. Error doesn't have

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Speaker 2: to be a big one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, and then you know that's a great that's great.

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Speaker 2: I would try it, try it. Yeah, that can happen.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Wendy, thank you so much for being on the

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Speaker 1: podcast today.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 4: And when does this have St. Dennis Medical Season two start?

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Speaker 2: You know, we start back at work in June, but

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming the fall we will be back on NBC.

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Speaker 2: So awesome.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and is it Peacock or is it NBC? It's

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Speaker 4: NBC the first run and then the next day on Peacock.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so everybody can watch Saint Dennis Medical on.

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Speaker 4: NBC or Peacock and you can catch up on Peacock

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Speaker 4: and you can catch up on Peacock. Watch it first

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Speaker 4: and then catch up on it later.

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Speaker 2: Exactly.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for being here, love, Thanks for

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Speaker 4: having speaking with you.

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Speaker 1: All right, have a great day in New Orleans.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Okay, have a good one as well. Talk

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Speaker 2: to you soon.

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Speaker 1: Bye. Okay.

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Speaker 4: My remaining dates for Vegas, there are remaining dates for

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Speaker 4: this year. Summertime is coming and I will be in

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Speaker 4: Vegas at the Cosmo doing my residency on July fifth.

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Speaker 4: We will be the next date that I'm there, July fifth,

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Speaker 4: August thirtieth, and then November one and twenty ninth. November

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Speaker 4: one and November twenty ninth, I will be in Las

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Speaker 4: Vegas at the Cosmo performing Inside Myself at the Chelsea.

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Speaker 1: It's called Chelsea at the Chelsea for a reason. Okay,

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Speaker 1: thank you.

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