1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: At least He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: Black and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. 5 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 3: I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson. And 6 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 3: it is a well not a non victory Friday, I agreed, 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 3: and that in itself is a weird thing. Indeed, we 8 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 3: haven't done a show in a week like this where 9 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 3: you get a show on Friday after on Thursday. But 10 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 3: we'll do this later in the year, obviously with the 11 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 3: Christmas Day game. And it was an interesting game or 12 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 3: this was interesting. Yeah, I did other podcasts of course, 13 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: since we've talked, or since it's happened. And I put 14 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 3: it this way, I was like, if you didn't have 15 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 3: any dog in the fight, you know, if you were 16 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: just an observer, been a blast to watch, you know 17 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 3: what I mean, Like the just the visuals of it 18 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 3: all and the craziness that happened. And frankly, the Steelers 19 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 3: didn't play all that well. And frankly, I think I 20 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 3: underestimated the Browns too, you know, like it's easy to 21 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 3: look at season long stuff, but since Winston's been in there. 22 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 3: They're now two and two with two wins against good 23 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 3: football teams Ravens and Steelers. They played the Saints really 24 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 3: tough until the end, or he played them well. I 25 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 3: think they're gonna win games. And I thought the Browns 26 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 3: played well. 27 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: I thought the Browns. 28 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 3: Fed off of some of the early stops that they 29 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 3: go and guys in the locker room talking, we wanted 30 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 3: to come out and get off to a fast start, 31 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 3: and in a way they did. 32 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: They did. They moved the football. They had three and 33 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 2: outs on defense. 34 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they had eighty seven yards on their 35 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,279 Speaker 3: first two possessions. 36 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: Like the first twenty minutes of play. Instead of breaking 37 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: it in half, he broke it into thirds. They had 38 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: like seventeen minutes a time of possession. Yeah, I mean 39 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: it was something that it was what they wanted to do. 40 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 3: They I mean, they had out gained the Browns. It 41 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 3: was like one fifty something to nineteen h right, but 42 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 3: they had three points to show for it. 43 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 2: Because miss fourth downs and missed extra or missfield goals 44 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: or turnovers. 45 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 3: And you can you can Tomlin shouldn't have done this, 46 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: and Tomlin shouldn't have done that. And I hear all 47 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 3: that how about executing the place? Yeah, no question, it's 48 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 3: one yard. If you can't get a yard in this league, 49 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 3: you don't deserve to win. And the Steelers went for 50 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 3: it three times on fourth down, got one of them. 51 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: Those are turnover. 52 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 3: The Browns went for it four times on fourth down 53 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 3: and got all of them. 54 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 2: After not being able to do anything on third downs. 55 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, they were one for ten on third downs. 56 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know. And when it mattered more, 57 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 2: you know, third downs or money downs or you call 58 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 2: them whatever you want, but on fourth down it's life 59 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 2: for death. Browns came through, Steelers didn't. 60 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the Steelers were seven of sixteen on 61 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 3: third downs. There's forty four almost forty four percent. You'll 62 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 3: take that, Yeah, you'll Maybe you don't want sixteen of them, 63 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 3: but you'll take, you know, forty four percent conversion rate. 64 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 3: They outgained the Browns three sixty eight to three oh four. 65 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 3: Time of possession was thirty five oh two to twenty four. 66 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: Fifty eight, exactly what you want. 67 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 3: They had three turnovers, real turnovers. You had won and 68 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 3: you lost the game because you missed that field goal. 69 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 2: Yep. 70 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 3: And maybe you should have punted there. Oh, yeah, I 71 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 3: can have we can have that discussion. But I'll say this, 72 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 3: I'm watching bos Won warm ups and he's banging them 73 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 3: from that distance. 74 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:25,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. 75 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, at this point the snow hadn't the snow hadn't. 76 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 2: It wasn't the earthy, it wasn't nasty and ugh R right. 77 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 2: I'm sure he had all the confidence in. 78 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 3: Bos there, he had the distance on he just it 79 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: just got pushed right and. 80 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: It was wendy. Actually I couldn't tell how wendy, but 81 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: it looked wendy. Yeah. I mean, I can't stress this 82 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: enough that one turnover, one missfield goal, two miss fourth 83 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 2: down conversions, and a sixteen yard punt which is almost 84 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: the same as a turnover too. Yeah, I mean, you're 85 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,839 Speaker 2: not gonna win many games, let alone Thursday night road 86 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: game in a place that you're struggling lately. And that 87 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: was some of the. 88 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 3: That was some of the game conditions, because the Browns 89 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 3: had a sixteen or fifteen yard punt as well. Yeah, 90 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 3: but the difference was the field position. They're kicking their 91 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 3: fift Their punt went from the fifty fifteen yard punt 92 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 3: where the Steelers you know, punt came out of their 93 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 3: own end, it gave them the ball back at the 94 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 3: forty five yep, at the end of the game. 95 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: All these are symptoms for you know, the well the 96 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: other way around the Brown I mean just average starting 97 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 2: field position was night and day different. I mean, if 98 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 2: both offenses played equal and we could fight if they 99 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: did or not, the the goal to go was way different, 100 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And that's why that stuff matters. 101 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 3: Now, some of that was self induced because you know, 102 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 3: you did those things. You went for it at midfield 103 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 3: a couple you know, twice. Yeah, you kicked the field 104 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 3: goal of a fifty eight yard field goal attempt. That's 105 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 3: going to give it to them. But the Steelers defense 106 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: on each of those occasions got to stop except for 107 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 3: the last one after the punt, last one right. 108 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: Which was There was a lot of problems with that game, 109 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: no question, But I thought the one play that hurt 110 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 2: him the most was the punt. Yeah, I mean a 111 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: sixteen yard punt in that circumstance, thirty yard punt right, 112 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 2: at least make him get another couple first downs, you 113 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 2: know what I mean. It was too easy at that point, 114 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 2: and you got to credit the opponent too. I thought 115 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: Winston played a great game. I was really impressed with Judy. 116 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 2: Conklin held up really well. Chubb's numbers were bad, but 117 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: he missed, made a lot of people miss and he 118 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: felt better. Yeah, yeah, I mean, and he looked better 119 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: than his numbers. The defense as a hole for the 120 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 2: Browns played real well. Garrett was a star. And you know, 121 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: I thought the Browns played their best game of the year. Yeah. 122 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 3: And you know that was their best game against your 123 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 3: C minus game. 124 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 125 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: Say, it might have been a Steelers worst game. I mean, 126 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: it was not far from their best, that's for sure. 127 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 3: That being said, I thought I thought Wilson played pretty 128 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 3: well in those conditions. He converted. I was making note 129 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 3: of it. There were four or five third and long 130 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 3: conversions that were like wow, that bailed him out. And 131 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 3: it wasn't just conversions. He was hitting deep balls in 132 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 3: some of those situations. 133 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: They had explosives. They had a batch of what twenty 134 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 2: thirty plus yard gains, and they had where the Browns didn't. 135 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 3: They had four plays of thirty or more yards the 136 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 3: Browns had none. 137 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, they had. 138 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 3: Six plays of twenty or more yards. The Browns had three. 139 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 3: And again you lost that game because here's too many negatives. 140 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: That's just yeah. I was saying Steelers had one tackle 141 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 2: for loss Brown's at eleven. So the chunk plays are great, 142 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 2: but only one almost had right right right? I mean 143 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: it was too much going backwards. So you know. 144 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 3: It can't be all that. The running game has to 145 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 3: be better, has to be better. 146 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 2: You need more than two yards to carry from nause 147 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: and I thought Warren was a bright spot. But it 148 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,679 Speaker 2: did look like they were running into pretty heavy boxes 149 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 2: a lot. I mean, the Browns did a good job 150 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: and were stout at the point. 151 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 3: I mean, but both both teams really shut down the run. 152 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: Mm hm. 153 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 3: But again the difference was Chubb was falling forward. He 154 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 3: was There were no negative runs. No that you could 155 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 3: put Jameis Winston behind the change a little bit, yep. 156 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: And I thought Winston played really really well. I mean, 157 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: he played well on the move. When the Steelers did 158 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: get pressure, he was able to elude it better than 159 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 2: I remember him being, you know, athletically. I made a 160 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: couple of big plays at big times, sometimes on fourth down. 161 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: It was a pretty equal game, you know. I did 162 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: a show with Wolf and Rob, and I though Rob 163 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 2: had a real good point. He said it'd be different 164 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: if it was one thing that you just couldn't stop, 165 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 2: or you know, like man, they're just handed to chub 166 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: and he's getting eight yards of carry every time, Like, 167 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: oh no, I run defense as a mess. This was 168 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: a lot of He called it death by paper cuts, 169 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: but I kind of corrected him or you know, took 170 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: up and like, yeah, they were deeper than paper cuts. 171 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: But there was a lot of and he compared it 172 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: to the Colts game. Remember the Colts game. I remember 173 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 2: talking post game going there was eight to ten pivotal 174 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: plays and eighty percent of them went to Colts way, 175 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like the play that Winston 176 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 2: made where he lobs it just over Elliott's over its 177 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: fingertips on fourth down, and I mean it's a beautiful play. 178 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 2: It's a great I mean, it's execution play. But there 179 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: was it was battle of inches on a lot of 180 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 2: these things. Yeah, it was a game of inches. 181 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 3: And you know when you get into these kind of 182 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 3: games on the road in the snowy conditions like that, yeah, 183 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 3: kind of evened everything out. And again if it's in 184 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 3: a field position game like that, you know, I. 185 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 2: Kind of feel like the game was lost in the 186 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 2: first half though, Yeah, you know what I mean. 187 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: You were the better team in the first half. And 188 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 3: that's what it was like. You took ten three. 189 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: You could have kicked them when they were down and 190 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 2: you didn't. And in this league, he gotta And that 191 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: being said, there was a point when Winston threw the pick, 192 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 2: when Austin cut the touchdown, I'm like, they're gonna win 193 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 2: this game. 194 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 4: Pull. 195 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 2: I'm not sure they deserve it, but they're gonna win 196 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 2: this game. I thought they were the better team. I 197 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 2: don't know. I thought they were definitely the better team. 198 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 3: I thought the Browns did some good things, and I 199 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 3: thought they they took advantage of the field position, and 200 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 3: credit to them for doing that. But I thought the 201 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,479 Speaker 3: Steelers were the better team. 202 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 2: I thought it was a very equal game that I 203 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: was shocked that they still had a chance with their 204 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 2: self inflicted wounds. 205 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 3: I thought they made mistakes, but I think man for man, 206 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 3: they were the better team. Brown's pass rushers way better 207 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,599 Speaker 3: than the Steelers, though, And I thought the ground. 208 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 2: Game I didn't. 209 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 3: I didn't think the offensive line played well. 210 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 2: No, I didn't either. I didn't either. I thought the 211 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 2: quarterbacks were pretty equal. Probably give a nod to Winston. 212 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 2: I thought he played extremely well. But I thought Wilson 213 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 2: wasn't bad. I thought was an equal I thought it 214 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: was an equal game, you know. And if you make 215 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 2: that many mistakes, you're gonna lose those. 216 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you made too many and kind of I don't 217 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 3: want to say they were self inflicted mistakes, but largely 218 00:09:59,360 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 3: they were. 219 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 2: I mean, a missfield goal is a botch pond is. 220 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't matter who's on the other side. 221 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 2: That's something you totally did wrong. You know. Not being 222 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 2: able to get the fourth has something to do with 223 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: the Browns obviously. Yeah, you know I they rushed that play. 224 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: There was a couple of those. Yeah, the field goal 225 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 2: looked like it was too The field. 226 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 3: Goal I don't have I don't have an issue with 227 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 3: because they practiced that all the time. 228 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 2: Every every week they practice. 229 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 3: Everyone runs on getting I understand it's a fifty eight 230 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 3: yard it is not a forty yarder. Yeah, but they 231 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 3: practice that in those kinds of situations. 232 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 2: He just missed the field goal. Yeah, he just missed 233 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: the field I mean, fifty eight yard are in tough conditions. 234 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 2: The best kickers are not going to make that all 235 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 2: y I think. You know, I was thinking about it today. 236 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 3: I'm like again, I was watching him in warm ups 237 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 3: hit those like he probably makes seven out of ten 238 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 3: in that situation. 239 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 2: Probably, I mean, as well as he's playing. But he 240 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 2: just didn't trust him to know. And I didn't have 241 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 2: a problem with that, No, I really didn't. I mean 242 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 2: I had qualms with the whole fourth and two, verse, 243 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 2: third and seventh thing some of that Monday morning. 244 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 3: I didn't have a problem with it at time because 245 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 3: in that situation, you pushed him back because I believe 246 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 3: they were at where were they at? They were at 247 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 3: the thirty. That moved it back to the twenty nine. 248 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 3: So you're allowed to get a sack there. Oh yeah, 249 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 3: you're allowed to get a stop there. 250 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: I understood the logic behind it, but I was sitting 251 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: there typing on my computer, going, I would not have 252 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 2: done this, you know, I don't want to make it. 253 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: I didn't want to give Hi an extra play. 254 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 3: I didn't want to make it from the twenty five. 255 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 3: Now you're looking at a forty forty two yard field 256 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 3: goal if they don't get it, as opposed to a 257 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 3: forty eight yard field goal. And I don't know that 258 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 3: they have any trust in Dustin Hopkins in that particular. 259 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 2: I know. 260 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 3: That's why I wanted to get the fourth and twos 261 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 3: to have him swing his leg, because I wanted more 262 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 3: time on the clock. I wanted less plays for them, 263 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: and I don't trust that guy at all. I didn't 264 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 3: have a problem pushing him back. You're again, you're allowed 265 00:11:58,640 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 3: to get to stop. 266 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, But I also I did not have a problem 267 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 2: with the call for trying a field goal. Did you 268 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 2: have the best gecker going? Yeah, you know, if Boz 269 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 2: didn't think he could make it, he would have told 270 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 2: him that. 271 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 3: I mean, there's communication on the sidelines about that. And 272 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 3: you said he was nailing him in the pregame. Yeah, 273 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 3: now you had just gotten pressure on the previous play 274 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 3: on third and two, right right right. That's why I thought, well, 275 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 3: send the blitz again and if you know, and maybe 276 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 3: he throws one away again like that or should have 277 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 3: been to me intentional grounding. 278 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 2: But what do I know. I didn't Rob asked about it, 279 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: because like you, he was not watching live. I thought 280 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 2: they had a really good explanation on the TV copy 281 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 2: was the Steelers were hitting them. 282 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 3: I mean, so when he started letting loose of the 283 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 3: ball though he wasn't being hit. 284 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 2: He wasn't hitting. The replay looked like it was there 285 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 2: was contact. 286 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 3: I didn't think there was contact anymore that I could 287 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 3: understand that the arm was coming forward. There was no 288 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 3: there was no eligible well there was an offensive lineman 289 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 3: who had reported eligible on the Yeah, but the but 290 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 3: they who turned to catch the ball wasn't a line. 291 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 3: Was a line. 292 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: I just thought it was immediately. 293 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 3: I thought they're gonna call it, because usually when they 294 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 3: talk about it like that, Yeah, you're gonna get an 295 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 3: intentional grounding call. 296 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 2: We actually had a funny conversation about it. Like I said, 297 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: he intended to intentionally ground it. Correct, he was through law. Yeah, 298 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: it was. They made the right call by the letter 299 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 2: of the book. They explained it pretty well on the broadcast, 300 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 2: even though the broadcasters and everybody was confused for a 301 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 2: long time. That being said, he tried to just. 302 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 3: Had they had Tomlin confused on the play as well 303 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 3: because he didn't know what they were trying to call. 304 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: And then they I don't think they knew. They were 305 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 2: waiting to hear and nobody knew for quite some time. 306 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: Strange game. 307 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 3: Obviously, it was a very strange game, and I'm not 308 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 3: going to I'm not blaming the officiating for. 309 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: Anything that they thought the job last night. 310 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 3: I thought they kind of swallowed their whistles in the 311 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 3: second half when the. 312 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know your process during the game, but 313 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 2: I have a word document open and I just type 314 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 2: everything so I can go back and just few my 315 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 2: thoughts of the time, you know, and sometimes second and 316 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 2: eight blah blah blah, you know. And I wrote in 317 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 2: big bold letters, I wrote, I understand that it's snowing 318 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: and we don't even know what where what yards they're on, 319 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 2: and they have a really tough job. But I feel 320 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: like they stopped officiating the game after a while, Like 321 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: holding was very legal. 322 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 3: There was a couple hours I thought Herbig definitely got 323 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 3: held on the Winston touchdown. 324 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 2: Right, like they had other things to do than do 325 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 2: the officiating stuff. There was two or three out routes 326 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 2: that I would have loved to have seen the second time, 327 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 2: Like did they even get two feet in? Does anybody care? 328 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: Does anybody know? And me like there's no lines to 329 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: even tell. Can we review these things now or are 330 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 2: we just gonna that's good, go with it? Who cares? Yeah, 331 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 2: I thought. 332 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 3: I thought Pickens got tackled or pushed out of bounds. 333 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 3: Definitely at the end of the first half, he got 334 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 3: basically hooked and getting out of bounds on the deep ball. 335 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 3: Maybe they get a field goal in that situation. Then 336 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 3: the sack happens on the next play. On the final 337 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 3: play the hail Mary pass. Newsom treated him like he 338 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 3: was a punt gunner and was just grabbing him and 339 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 3: holding him the entire way down the field. And that's 340 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 3: what it precipitated the uh little battle that they had afterwards. 341 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 2: And he can't do that. That that has to stop, 342 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 2: you know what picking Yeah, oh, absolutely, I mean it's 343 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 2: a terrible look after the game after you lost. And 344 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 2: I understand your competitive but that's an immature move, you know. 345 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 3: And initially I thought he was going after a cameraman 346 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 3: or something. 347 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 2: I thought, I thought something like him. I thought somebody. 348 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 3: I thought when he slid out of bound, somebody yanked 349 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 3: him to the ground, or if he fell on top 350 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 3: of the guy and he felt like he was yanked 351 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 3: at the ground. And then when I saw when they 352 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 3: they finally separated him, it was Newsome at the bottom 353 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 3: of it, like, oh, Okay. 354 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: I thought a fan like dumped up beer on him 355 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 2: or something. 356 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: Fans were throwing snowballs up there. You couldn't really see 357 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 3: the Steelers at the Steelers bench pretty much through the 358 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 3: entire second half. 359 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: Really again, typical classy Browns. 360 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 3: That stuff only happens in Ohio, it happens in Cincinnati, 361 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 3: and it happens in Cleveland. I hate to say it, 362 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 3: but their fans are scumbags. 363 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's terrible. 364 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 3: You should I mean, you can't do that. 365 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 2: You can hurt somebody, right, I mean it can change 366 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 2: the game, which we're all there for the game. 367 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm just talking about injuring somebody. It's not 368 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 3: even the players on the fight. Tyler here got hit 369 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 3: with a snowball on the sideline yesterday, just. 370 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: Doing his job, doing his job. 371 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 3: He's there doing his job and you get hit in 372 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 3: the back of the head by a snowball thrown from 373 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 3: three hundred four hundred feet in the air. Right, that's 374 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 3: you should lose any right to ever go to a 375 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 3: football game. 376 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like. 377 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 3: Season tickets and all that stuff should be stripped from you. 378 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 3: A fine, put you in some jail, yeah, right, go 379 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 3: spend a night in jail or whatever. 380 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's what's gained by remember that. 381 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 3: Don't do that crap Steelers fans that don't. I haven't 382 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 3: seen much that's over the years, but I almost got 383 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 3: hit with a quarter one time. I heard it whiz 384 00:16:55,240 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 3: by my ear in Cincinnati. It was off thrown from 385 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 3: like the upper deck. 386 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, kill somebody that's gaining speed day. 387 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 3: I mean, it's like a bullet coming down. 388 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 2: Like dropping a penny off the Empire State Building can 389 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 2: go right through you, right. 390 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 3: But anyways, Yeah, the Steelers lose the game, it's not 391 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 3: the end of the world. Here's the thing. If you'd 392 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 3: have lost on Sunday and then beating the Browns, you'd 393 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 3: be in worse shape than you are now. 394 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, one hundred per I mean I kind of thought, 395 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 2: I think you and I were walking out our last 396 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 2: show before Ravens and I said, I don't know how 397 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 2: what's gonna happen, but I think you're gonna be one 398 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,239 Speaker 2: on one of these games. And it's a tough thing 399 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 2: to do. It's a tough thing to do, and you know, 400 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 2: the short thing on the road absolutely matters. Brown's played 401 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 2: better than I thought they were capable to be very honest, 402 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,479 Speaker 2: and they had just gotten to win from the Ravens. 403 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 2: I mean, if you are going to be one in 404 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: one of those two games, that's a sequence you want. 405 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 2: Now you have ten days off. I don't know where 406 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 2: a Land of Roberts situation was, but it seems like 407 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 2: you're rather unscathed from these two games. Yeah, the only 408 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: one that's coming, right, So that's probably not a long 409 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 2: term thing, and maybe he's ready for next week or 410 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 2: one week off. But you can weather that with as 411 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 2: well as Peyton Wilson's playing too, So you're not in 412 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 2: bad shape. You knew this stretch wasn't going to be easy. Yeah, yeah, 413 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 2: grade and three. 414 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 3: I mean Tim Benz was asking me yesterday what the 415 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 3: record is that you know at the end of the 416 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 3: the season? He said, what do you what do you progress? 417 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 3: Something like eleven or twelve wins? I mean he said, well, 418 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 3: they could get to thirteen or fourteen. I'm like, they could. 419 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 2: That's tough. 420 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 3: It's still capable at this point, but you're going to 421 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 3: lose some games along the way. 422 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 2: Oh you just are you are? I mean, Baltimore could 423 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 2: lose to the Chargers a couple of right, right, it's 424 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 2: tougher road. 425 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 3: Absolutely, let's get through a break. He is the Matt Williamson. 426 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here 427 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network. Will be joined by Steeler 428 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 3: Sideline reporter Missy Matthews. We'll see what the what came 429 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 3: out yesterday? A lot of fun for Missy yesterday on 430 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 3: the sideline in Cleveland. I wonder she got hit BYNY snowballs. 431 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm curious. It might be my first question. There 432 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 2: you go. We would do that right after this. 433 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 4: At least. 434 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 435 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and 436 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,719 Speaker 1: Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio. 437 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 3: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly. He is 438 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 3: the Matt Williamson. We're joined on the Justin Miller Hotline 439 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 3: by Steelers Sideline reporter Missy Matthews. Missy, have you dried 440 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 3: out and warmed up yet? 441 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 4: I actually just took all of my wet stuff from 442 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 4: yesterday that I had laid out when I got home 443 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 4: and threw it in the washers. So the process has started. 444 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 2: Pretty memorable evening. 445 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 4: I have a feeling, yeah, it was. It's crazy. You know, 446 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 4: MoES and I were doing like a recap show in 447 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 4: the Steelers studio today and to remember that there was 448 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 4: really no snow in the first quarter, first half, really 449 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 4: in and you see the snow glow. But I know 450 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 4: I loved it, but it just it happened very quickly. 451 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that hit. I'm harder to tell from TV. 452 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 3: By the time the game was over, there was probably 453 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 3: maybe an inch or maybe even two on the on 454 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 3: the ground. I mean I was walking, I was parked out, 455 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 3: you know, beyond the stadium because I drove up and 456 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 3: and uh, you know, just walking back to my car, 457 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 3: I'm like, man, snow more than what I thought it did. 458 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 3: Obviously the accumulation started, but as we you know we 459 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 3: Missy said, it was all in the second half of 460 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 3: the game. 461 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, like happened at halftime. 462 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're talking like an hour and a half 463 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 3: to get that that heavy of a snow. 464 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 2: It was constant. 465 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was pretty significant and it affected kind of 466 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 3: the way that the game played out. Did you what 467 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 3: was the what was the mood like on the on 468 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 3: the sideline, particularly in the in the fourth quarter, Missy 469 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 3: is is the Steelers took the lead, you know, and 470 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 3: then you had the interception by Dante Jackson. Did I mean, 471 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 3: how did did they think it was over at that 472 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 3: point or are they still pretty much? 473 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 2: Oh boy? We still got we still got to make 474 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 2: some plays here. 475 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 4: I don't think they thought it was over. I mean 476 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 4: there was definitely an excitement since you had a three 477 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 4: nothing lead and that quickly you know, evaporated, and I 478 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 4: feel like, you know, the campaign wards of the world, 479 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 4: even did it last week against the Ravens, we still 480 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 4: were not done yet, and it did feel like having 481 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 4: what was it six fifty five or whatnot left that 482 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 4: that felt like a very long time and too much time, 483 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 4: which it proved to be for a number of reasons. 484 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,959 Speaker 4: But you just didn't feel good. It was only a 485 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 4: one point lead at that point. 486 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 2: You know, just talking to players and things afterwards, did 487 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 2: you really get the impression that they felt like they'd 488 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 2: let one slip away? 489 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, I yeah. Just on even my bus 490 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 4: ride home, some of the players and coaches that were 491 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 4: on it, you could just you know, there was still frustration. 492 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 4: Even when we were in Pennsylvania on the turnpike and 493 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 4: out of Ohio. 494 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 3: Uh, Missy, what was there any reaction? Corless weightman has 495 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 3: been really good for the Steelers this year. But obviously 496 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 3: that punt, that that that he had yesterday, the only 497 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 3: punt he had yesterday. Uh, what was the reaction to 498 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 3: that on the sideline? I mean, did anybody freak out 499 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 3: on him? 500 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 4: That? 501 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 3: I mean was I'm sure he was not happy about it, 502 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 3: but because he's a you know, pretty upbeat young man, 503 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 3: but that that just was really inopportune time to get 504 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 3: that punt in that situation. 505 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 2: And along those lines, how did how did bos react 506 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 2: to mixing? You don't see that very often either, boz Is. 507 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 4: It was funny when I saw a replay of it. 508 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 4: I was shocked that you couldn't you know, read his 509 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 4: lists of what he normally says. But they have the 510 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 4: greatest camera angle on him. But no, he boz Is, 511 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 4: He's very automatic and he had no emotion until he 512 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 4: does something wrong that he's mad at himself about. He 513 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 4: does not hide that. You know, He's very locked and loaded. 514 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 4: The entire game. One of Jalen Warren's runs, it was funny. 515 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 4: Max and I were kind of near him and the 516 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 4: rest of specialists by their their kicking net and when 517 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 4: we were going to you know, move sides on the field. 518 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 4: He's like, man, I don't want to tackle that guy. 519 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 4: You know. That was like one of the only things 520 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 4: that we heard Boss say that was not you know, 521 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 4: just Boz being Boz and doing his routine. I think 522 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 4: it was really shocked, honestly of Corless Waveman, because, as 523 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 4: you said, Dale, he's just been so consistent and he 524 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 4: has been a non factor in terms of we're not 525 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 4: talking about it being an issue. You know, even going 526 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 4: back to last year. Loved Presley Harvin, but it became 527 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 4: an issue where we were talking about it week after week. 528 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 4: When he came in to fill in for Cam Johnson 529 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 4: after he had that horrible injury, it was okay, yeah, 530 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 4: this guy's here and were good and as you said, 531 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 4: just the worst possible time for it to happen. And 532 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 4: I think that just fed into the momentum that the 533 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 4: Browns were riding high throughout that entire game. What did 534 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 4: they have to lose? And it just seemed like they 535 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 4: were having fun playing villain. 536 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 537 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 3: I thought so too, And I thought they really gained 538 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 3: some momentum, not just on the missfield goal, but when 539 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 3: they get the first fourth down stop on Justin Field's 540 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 3: I thought that really kind of fed into that that 541 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 3: momentum for me. You saw the players celebrating, and as 542 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 3: they walked off the field, I mean they that seemed 543 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 3: to fire them up a little bit. 544 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 545 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 4: I mean you figure, going into last night's game, your 546 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 4: only went at home was against the Ravens, and now 547 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 4: you add one against the Steelers. You know, if you 548 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 4: can't have nice things, why not make sure other people 549 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 4: don't have nice things, especially the people that you're close 550 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 4: proximity close proximity too, and don't like very much. It 551 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 4: just it, it did. I feel like the Browns were 552 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 4: just so emotionally invested on turning it around. Even I 553 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 4: saw Jameis Winston's like pregame speech a little bit in 554 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 4: the locker room that Amazon Prime had showed of just 555 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 4: like this is our first chance, like to do this, 556 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 4: let's go, you know, and the excitement, and that definitely 557 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 4: translated into their play. 558 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 2: I thought he was very impressive in this game and 559 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 2: kind of epitomizes we got nothing to lose, you know, 560 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 2: a total gunslinger. And maybe it's not sustainable for seventeen 561 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 2: games when you started zero zero, but I thought he 562 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 2: was very impressive in this game. 563 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, It's funny. He's like one of those guys you 564 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 4: want to cheer for when they're not playing the Steelers 565 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 4: because he just does have that mentality. He's very I 566 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 4: told Motes this, he's very Arthur Motes like where he's 567 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 4: always positive too and vocally positive. And yeah, if it 568 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 4: wasn't against the Steelers, I'd have no problem, you know, 569 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 4: watching him play and cheering for him, as long as 570 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 4: it was a different. 571 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 3: Team, Missy. I mean from the sideline, what where was 572 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 3: the Steelers pass rush did? I mean, what did you 573 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 3: see down Cloak? I'll be honest with you. In the 574 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 3: second half, I couldn't really see a lot from the 575 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 3: press box because it was just snowing so heavily. You're 576 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 3: just kind of trying to I mean, I get the 577 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 3: binoculars out, just trying to follow the ball a little bit, 578 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 3: just to keep an eye on that stuff. So I 579 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 3: didn't couldn't really focus on the pass rush. But were 580 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 3: guys just were they slipping and sliding? Were they not? 581 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: You know? What was what was the issue That was 582 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 2: the most surprising thing in the game to me? You know, like, 583 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 2: if I had one guarantee, you would have been a 584 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 2: lot of sacks. 585 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 4: M hmm, right, and the numbers told you so, especially 586 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 4: coming in and just what the edge rushers for the 587 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 4: Steelers have been able to do recently. Yeah, it was. 588 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 4: It was kind of surprising, I thought. Obviously Herbig had 589 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 4: some splash plays there, and there was the clip of 590 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 4: NFL films putting out, you know, of Jameis Winston's touchdown, 591 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 4: and every Steeler's reply is pretty much like, oh, there's 592 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 4: there's Nick krbag getting held. 593 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 3: You know that that was just a flat out grab 594 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 3: as the guy ran by him, you know, as he 595 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 3: ran by. I mean he just grabbed it by the 596 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 3: arm and held him. Like, yes, that's not even that 597 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 3: was like the Dante Jackson hold last week against eight 598 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 3: or he just got yanked down to the ground, like 599 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 3: come on, get a call. 600 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny. I'm watching the Pick Game, the from 601 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 4: the Green Briar Classic with my boys, and there was 602 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 4: a flagrant file and I'm like trying to explain to 603 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 4: my youngest what you know, flagrant is a little different, 604 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 4: and but that was flagrant what we saw last night 605 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 4: against Nick Krbig. And I think even you know TJ Watt, 606 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 4: the TJ Watt treatment of getting held in different things 607 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 4: like that. But it was shocking that he wasn't able 608 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 4: to overcome that and you know, break one or do something. 609 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 4: We did see the force fumbles and things like that. 610 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 4: It just wasn't from I guess the people were normally 611 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 4: used to. But then again, you go back to the 612 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 4: Ravens game. You know, Deshaun Elliott dot Jackson his fourth 613 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 4: interception of the season that ties his career high from 614 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 4: his rookie season. It is some of the same guys, 615 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 4: but I was surprised that in terms of TJ Nick, 616 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 4: even Preston Smith being able to get to Winston. It 617 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 4: was a very very bizarre second half. And it's not 618 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 4: even because of the weather. 619 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 2: How many How bad were the projectiles coming out of 620 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 2: the crowd towards the Steeler bench and were you able 621 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 2: to avoid them all? 622 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 4: I did not get hit with the snowball Max Starks did. 623 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 2: I don't. 624 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 3: I don't know that Max will be the guy I 625 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 3: would pick out to hit with a snowball. 626 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 4: Right, like, don't poke the bear, like he's really nice. Probably, 627 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 4: you know, it wasn't that bad. I think towards the end. 628 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 3: Is when you know, really started, like the last couple 629 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 3: of minutes of the game, I really started to notice 630 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 3: him in the press box. They were coming from up 631 00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 3: above us. That's dangerous, man, that it's just dangerous. 632 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it was weird because when it first started snowing, 633 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 4: even in the first half, it was very light flurries 634 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 4: and I just you know, going back now and watching 635 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 4: you you can't even see it on TV. But it 636 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 4: did get significantly heavier and faster, and then towards the 637 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 4: end it was almost like a hail slash lee slash. 638 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 4: I don't even know, uh what to call it, because 639 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 4: it felt like it wasn't just a nice snow, like 640 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 4: it was landing on all of us. So it was 641 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,479 Speaker 4: then like melting on you, like down your down your 642 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 4: head and down your back. 643 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,719 Speaker 2: It was not pleasant. 644 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. Yeah, a hot shower when I got 645 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 4: home was amazing. 646 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 2: How bad was the wind And was it the same 647 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 2: pretty much start to finish or did that change too? 648 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 4: It times to dig it a lot worse, and I 649 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 4: think especially when it starts snowing harder. But uh, it's 650 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 4: so weird, and it's like that all the time in 651 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 4: that stadium because there's only uh one corner of the 652 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 4: end zone, like looking out right from the cross box. 653 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 4: It's like open, so it's like it comes in, but 654 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 4: then it like swirls around. Yeah, and I think because 655 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 4: it's not a completely open end, it's like this little 656 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 4: sliver that when it does come in then it like 657 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 4: has to move all around. But it was, you know, 658 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 4: Rob and Wolf kept saying like, I don't like the 659 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 4: flags aren't moving, but then Max and I are like, 660 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 4: look at us, like we can't even turn our face 661 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 4: that way. 662 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 2: Wow. 663 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 4: And especially in the second half with the snow, it 664 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 4: was almost like I wanted to have a ball cap 665 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 4: on because if I didn't put like something above my 666 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 4: head or kind of like squint, then like the snow 667 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 4: is literally coming right into your face. 668 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 2: And it definitely affected the kicking and passing game. 669 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. 670 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's why I do think, you know, if 671 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 5: Dustin Hopkins had to kick that field goal where the 672 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 5: whole intentional grounding not intentional grounding thing happened, I didn't. 673 00:30:58,480 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 4: Like his chances. 674 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 3: No, I didn't either, And I thought that was because 675 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 3: it was interesting Cleveland chose Cleveland had choice at the 676 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 3: beginning of the game, and so they won the toss, 677 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,959 Speaker 3: and they won the toss, and it seemed like they 678 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 3: chose to go into the wind in the fourth quarter, because, yeah, 679 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 3: it seemed. 680 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 2: Like going left. 681 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 3: It seemed like going left from right to left was 682 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 3: better than going the other way toward that opened end, yes, 683 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 3: ended area, and that's what they. 684 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 2: Chose, and they must prefer that to me, who knows it's. 685 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 3: Their stadium better than us. But I don't know, I 686 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 3: thought it was. 687 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 4: But the entire time, I mean very few times that 688 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 4: I feel like it was coming the other way where 689 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 4: it was affecting you. It was definitely that way. Was like, 690 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 4: you know, you're keeping your head looking straight, but you're 691 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 4: moving your eyes to try to watch the play so 692 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 4: that you could actually see. And I mean kudos to 693 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 4: the players because that could not have been fun at all. 694 00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 2: That whole illegal touching fourth and two, three and seven 695 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 2: intentional grounding, Yeah, was that unbelievably confusing from your vantage point, 696 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 2: because the announcers definitely had no clue. 697 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 4: What was going on either a thousand percent, And we 698 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 4: were I was standing pretty close to like where Coachchanlan 699 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 4: and some of the other offensive guys assistants were, and 700 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 4: the one official did the intentional grounding motion. But then 701 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 4: the mic wasn't on, and then they huddled up and 702 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 4: they were talking, and then it was confusing. It honestly 703 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 4: was to the point where like Rob and everyone is 704 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 4: trying to like piece little things together. Yeah, I don't know. 705 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 4: That one was very strange. And then I think it 706 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 4: was confusing obviously coach Selan and his staff not knowing 707 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 4: what to do. And yeah, that just you just kind 708 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 4: of play the koda shuta woulda with that one, you know, 709 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 4: in hindsight, But yeah, that sucked. 710 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, anytime that you lose a game like that, there's 711 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 3: going to questions about this or that or or you know, 712 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 3: any of the things. But you know, Matt and I 713 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 3: were just talking. I thought field position played a huge, 714 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 3: huge key or a huge part of that game. And 715 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 3: I mean, you look at it. You know, the Steelers. 716 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 3: Cleveland's average starting drive began at their own forty one. 717 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 3: The Steelers ever drive began their own twenty nine. 718 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 2: Basically a different the game. Yeah, it's really the difference 719 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 2: in the. 720 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 4: Game, m H, no doubt. And it just felt like 721 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 4: also not capitalizing on turnovers and getting points where the 722 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 4: Browns were able to Just as you said, you couldn't 723 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 4: go back and to pick a number of things or 724 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 4: say this was the main reason. But I think even 725 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 4: the penalties, especially in that first. 726 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 3: Time the first halfter was Yeah, some of the false 727 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 3: starts and things, you know, motion and things of that nature. Yeah, 728 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 3: just killed drive. 729 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, it was like you know, you watched the 730 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 4: Ravens shoot themselves in the foot doing that last week, 731 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 4: working to your advantage. I was surprised how sloppy that 732 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 4: was in terms of those penalties. And I don't even think, 733 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 4: you know, I actually thought that Brad Allen's crew let 734 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 4: both teams play. We saw, you know, the back and 735 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 4: forth where George Pickens and the Browns defense and you 736 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 4: know they weren't didn't feel TICKI tacky or you know, 737 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 4: very one sided. But yeah, those one especially in the 738 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 4: illegal formations and fall start, you just you can't have those, 739 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 4: especially not on the road. 740 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 3: No, absolutely not. Well, Missy, will let you get back 741 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 3: to the pit. Game here last what twenty three seconds 742 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 3: at least that's what it says on my on my 743 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 3: laptop here. It looks like they're going to get a win. 744 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 3: But our guest has been Missy. Matthew Steelers sideline reporter. 745 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 3: We'll see you well next week I guess missy. 746 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, enjoy your weekend, guys. 747 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, you as well, he is, Okay, thanks the Matt Williamson. 748 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 3: I'm Dale Lallie. You're listening to the Drive here on 749 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 3: the Steelers Audio Network. Matt now will be back with 750 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 3: more right after this. 751 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: At least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 752 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the 753 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 754 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolli. He is the Matt 755 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 2: Williamson and Matt. 756 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 3: This red zone production thing is to me getting a 757 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,760 Speaker 3: little ridiculous at this point. 758 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 2: I just had somebody, John Meees. 759 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,280 Speaker 3: Tweets to us both of us actually here that somebody 760 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 3: put out a thing Steelers in red zone drives. This 761 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 3: according to get Up, Fields is now fifty percent touchdown 762 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 3: percentage and Russell Wilson's at thirty nine percent. And they 763 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 3: have their total QBR yes, which made up stack made 764 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 3: up stat Here's the thing. Last night, there were one 765 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,760 Speaker 3: for one in the red zone. They scored eight touchdown 766 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,399 Speaker 3: on the only trip of the red zone. Fields gets 767 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 3: credit for that because well, he handed the ball off 768 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,240 Speaker 3: to Jayleen Warren for a touchdown. 769 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 2: It's a good point, actually, right, I mean I love stats. 770 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 3: Wilson got fields helped get them there on that drive. 771 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 3: Wilson got them into the red zone though, right, Like, 772 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 3: I love stats and I use them all the time. 773 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,280 Speaker 3: I reference them all the time. They're a wonderful tool. 774 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 3: But small sample sizes is like the golden rule of stats. 775 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,479 Speaker 3: I say this all the time, like, could I beat 776 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 3: Stephen Curry on a in a three point contest if 777 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 3: it's the first one to hit a hundred no zero 778 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 3: percent chance, But if it was the first one to 779 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 3: hit one, I might win a shot. 780 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 2: I might win. 781 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,720 Speaker 3: And where I'm going with this very minuscule I'm losing, 782 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 3: but I might win. 783 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 2: That's the thing. 784 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 3: So what tell me what Wilson's touchdown percentage is? If 785 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 3: you take the zero for four against the Ravens out 786 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 3: of the equation. 787 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 2: And that's a great example too, Like I mean, just 788 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,879 Speaker 2: either one of them could have handed the ball to Warren. Yeah, 789 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 2: and it wasn't a field specific call. So thus all 790 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 2: sample size And if you want to take you know, 791 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 2: we're in the deep into of November. If you want 792 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,760 Speaker 2: to judge the Dolphins red zone versus Steelers versus the Bears. 793 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 2: That's pretty decent size. But even just judging Wilson versus fields, 794 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 2: how many opportunities total we even talking about here, you know, 795 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 2: And I'm going to defer to Wilson's career, right, That's 796 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 2: what I keep telling people, and they keep throwing this 797 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 2: in my face. 798 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 3: Well, maybe they should do this from used fields in 799 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 3: the red zone, because he's been better than shake. 800 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 2: The red zones like the worst place to use him. Yeah, 801 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,879 Speaker 2: because I don't want Wilson the sideline, the red zone. 802 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 2: I've been saying that. 803 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 3: And even he's throwing two hundred and twenty four I 804 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 3: believe it is two hundred and twenty four touchdown passes 805 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 3: in his career in the red zone in the red zone. 806 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 3: He had twenty last year in the red zone. 807 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 2: Which is really a difficult. I mean, it's really hard 808 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,839 Speaker 2: to do in the red zone. Everything condenses, everything's tougher. Obviously, 809 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 2: maybe he's lost his fastball in the red zone, but 810 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 2: I need to see more before I go down there. 811 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 3: You know, I'm at every practice. Yep, they work. They 812 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,439 Speaker 3: open every practice with their you know, seven shots drill. 813 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 3: We saw it through a training camp. Absolutely, he's a 814 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,800 Speaker 3: better passer down there than Justin Fields. 815 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, he just is. 816 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 4: He is. 817 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 3: He's better than most, better than Yeah, maybe one of 818 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 3: the better ones in history. 819 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,399 Speaker 2: But he is one of the better ones in history. Yes, 820 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 2: is he's still one of the better ones in history. 821 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 2: We shall see. 822 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 3: But I am not willing to say he can't do 823 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 3: that anymore. No, I mean that's the beauty again. It 824 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 3: was one trip yesterday. They scored on one that one 825 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 3: trip and we're still talking red zone stuff. 826 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 2: Do you think the field stuff continues though? Is that 827 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,879 Speaker 2: here to stay? I think I think it's mostly been 828 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 2: as successful, but it's not been a revelation none run 829 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:43,720 Speaker 2: down the sideline. 830 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 3: I mean, it's what the day they signed him or 831 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,839 Speaker 3: traded for him, I said, this is something that they should. 832 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 2: Do with him. 833 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, we've been in favor of it. I have no 834 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 3: problem using Justin Field. Justin Fields is a talented player. 835 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't like breaking rhythm though, and you know 836 00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 2: who's going to be in this play and blah blah blah, 837 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,800 Speaker 2: and frankly I didn't love that. If you're going to 838 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 2: throw a go ball late in the game, I'd rather 839 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 2: the best deep passers on the team do it than Fields. 840 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I get to try to you're trying to 841 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 2: catch him in something, but it and I know that, 842 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 2: you know type of thing. You know, everyone's expecting run 843 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 2: with him in the game. And it's not like he 844 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 2: can't complete a deep ball to Pickens. But I would 845 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,720 Speaker 2: have rather Wilson through that one, you know, of course, 846 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 2: but that's part of it. Yeah. 847 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 3: So I'm not ready to, you know, throw out the 848 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 3: baby with the bathwater here and say, oh, Russell Wilson 849 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 3: can't play in the red zone. 850 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 2: Come on. I mean, if it's a month from now 851 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 2: and he still hasn't thrown a ren zone touchdown between 852 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 2: now and then, let's talk. But really small samples, yeah. 853 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 3: I mean the touchdown percentage just and really what we're 854 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 3: They're at fifty percent with Fields, are at thirty nine 855 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 3: percent with Wilson. 856 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 2: That's like one difference. Yeah, I mean that's that's like 857 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 2: two trips. Yeah, this isn't when you have five hundred bats. No, again, 858 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 2: small sample size, right, And I don't care about the 859 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 2: QBR stuff. I don't. 860 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 3: I don't really either, right, And I think that factor's 861 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 3: in running. I think I don't know that for sure. Yeah, 862 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 3: I have no idea, Nor do I care because it's 863 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 3: a made up step by ESPN. 864 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 2: I'm big on passing. 865 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're gonna if you're gonna say pass rush 866 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 3: win rate isn't a real thing that you're not gonna 867 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 3: believe that, then don't give me QBR because it's the 868 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,840 Speaker 3: same organization made it up. Yeah, they just did. No, 869 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 3: I never referenced it. I never reference passer rating. There's 870 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 3: a couple of those. I just don't know if it's 871 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 3: good or bad, and I don't care to find. 872 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 2: Out anymore about it. No, everyone's trying to come up 873 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 2: with the new great again. 874 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it's Oh, we got to take passer 875 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 3: rating and make it even more convoluted. 876 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 2: I don't care. Nobody knows. Nobody even knows how you 877 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 2: get passer rating? How's perfect? Like one? Whatever? It is? 878 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 2: One fifty eight point three. I'm sorry, Yeah, why was 879 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 2: that perfect? That's weird to me too. 880 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 3: I don't know, but yeah, weird number to be perfect. 881 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 3: It's like pi, yeah, pie pie. I'm sure I'm sure 882 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 3: somebody could explain that to us. You know that all 883 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 3: that stuff, But I know there's a. 884 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 2: But you think we'll see fields every game going forward 885 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 2: do something. Yeah, I'm not saying's a take over a 886 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 2: starting job, but he's gets jersey dirty. 887 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 3: Yeah I think so, because why not. I mean, he's 888 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 3: a talented player. 889 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:05,799 Speaker 2: What do you think the Bengals are doing right now? 890 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 2: Thinking about it? Okay, what do we do in fields? 891 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 3: Is in the game, absolutely, you know, and that's just 892 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 3: something more that they have to prepare for and about 893 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 3: that game. 894 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 2: So it's it's weird to me. 895 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 3: The Steelers now get the Steelers played the Ravens and 896 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 3: and the Browns on the short week. The Ravens were 897 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:27,840 Speaker 3: coming off of additional rest. 898 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,879 Speaker 2: Oh, the rest of advantage stuff is significant. Bengals are 899 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 2: off this week. Bengals are off this week. When you 900 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 2: get a long week, you. 901 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,320 Speaker 3: Get a long week or yeah, you don't get that, 902 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 3: you still don't have a rest advantage. No, you're the 903 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 3: rest disadvantage by four days. Yeah right, I mean it's 904 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 3: not it's one of the many things of this stretch 905 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:43,840 Speaker 3: that make it even more challenging. 906 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just. 907 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 3: Some of the unfair, right, I mean, and look, there's 908 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 3: no schedule. It's going to be fair of course the RFL. 909 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 3: But the Steelers really got screwed on the schedule. 910 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 2: You know, it's better than I do. But I think 911 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 2: you every team has the right to that. They're like 912 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 2: a rough draft comes out out of the schedule, and 913 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 2: you could be like, man, this week, two things crazy 914 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 2: or you know, or can you change it? I don't 915 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 2: think you can. I thought you could request things before you. 916 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 3: Can ask, Hey, we don't want to do this, or 917 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 3: we want to play you know, we're having a. 918 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 2: Like I think Jacksonville says we're gonna would love to 919 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,959 Speaker 2: do two back to backs overseas. That's fine. 920 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 3: I legal different backwards to make that. Okay, yeah you 921 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 3: want you want to play over there, have ad it. 922 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 2: But what I was to say is, how about the 923 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,959 Speaker 2: next Thursday game between the Browns is here? That would 924 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 2: be nice that we're going to play. 925 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that seems like that should happen three in a 926 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,359 Speaker 3: row that have been up there exactly. That's another one 927 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 3: that's like, oh, come on many can we do one 928 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 3: of those here? 929 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 2: What do you think next time we do that? 930 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,840 Speaker 3: I mean, the Ravens complained about that a bunch of 931 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 3: years ago because it seemed like every time they came 932 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 3: to Pittsburgh it was a Monday night game or a 933 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 3: Sunday night game in Pittsburgh. 934 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 2: Which is a legit complaint. You know, it should be 935 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,280 Speaker 2: more or less equal, should be and say with the wrestling, 936 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,319 Speaker 2: the Ravens wrestling is the one that grinds. 937 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 3: You know, Like the Browns open every year at home. 938 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it are bad though. 939 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 3: I think since nineteen ninety nine when they came back 940 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,360 Speaker 3: into the league, I think they've opened on the road 941 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 3: like twice. That's a long time. I don't know that 942 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 3: i'd be that that's an advantage though, if it was 943 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,760 Speaker 3: Denver Miami, super hot place, that's a massive advantage. 944 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 2: Yeah. For the Browns. That just means you got to 945 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 2: make it up on the back end and go away 946 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 2: somewhere later in the year. 947 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 3: Often anytime you're getting out of Cleveland, as we saw 948 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 3: last night in November December. It's not a bad thing. Yeah, 949 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,359 Speaker 3: And you've brought this up in the past. Every year 950 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 3: there are seemingly one too, maybe even three games in 951 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 3: Cleveland that are just completely affected by the weather. 952 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 2: Massive. I mean, we reference fantasy all the time. It's 953 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 2: gonna be our next segment. I mean, it's something to 954 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 2: worry about two or three times a year, you know, 955 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,400 Speaker 2: like We're just start both those defenses or it's going 956 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 2: to be a slop fest more than any sitting in 957 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 2: the in the league in my opinion. I mean, Buffalo 958 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,959 Speaker 2: might get them and other Chicago gets expected. Green Bay's 959 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 2: green Bay, but not to the point where you can't operate, right. 960 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 2: So this is a bigger conversation we have time for. 961 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 2: And I know you like lose your cool guy man 962 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,280 Speaker 2: card and grew up in Pittsburgh and steel curtain and weather, 963 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 2: Like I don't want the NFC championship game between two 964 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 2: elite quarterbacks in Green Bay in minus twenty weather when 965 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 2: nobody can run, you know what I mean? Like I 966 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 2: want to see the athletes be athletes, and frankly, I 967 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 2: hope the Browns do put a dome in. But I 968 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 2: don't like domes either, you know what I mean. So 969 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,439 Speaker 2: some kind of balance is better than just I don't 970 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,320 Speaker 2: want to get eliminated from the playoffs because I have 971 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 2: to go to Cleveland in that game, you know what 972 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:39,359 Speaker 2: I mean. 973 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 3: Anybody's gonna have to worry about that this year? 974 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 2: No, absolutely, not yea or even like the Bills game 975 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 2: last year. You know when the playoff game, I mean, 976 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 2: it's a lot to deal with. It changes what the 977 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,360 Speaker 2: sport is. You just made my ribs hurt again. Hockey 978 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,439 Speaker 2: doesn't deal with that. They're like ice is ice. 979 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 3: For those of you that don't know, I was up 980 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 3: in Buffalo last year for three days in a little 981 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 3: tiny hotel. 982 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,720 Speaker 2: Room that had no food like potato chips. 983 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 3: I had some bagels and some potato chips and that's 984 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 3: what I had to eat for about, I don't know, 985 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 3: thirty six hours or so before I could get an 986 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 3: actual hot meal. Yeah, it's not good and not and 987 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 3: broke a rib. I fell and broke my ribs in 988 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 3: the parking lot. Not a fun weekend. Yeah, yeah. So anyways, 989 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,360 Speaker 3: let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson. 990 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here 991 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network, and of course you can 992 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 3: listen to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network 993 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,759 Speaker 3: every Monday through Friday from four to six pm. And 994 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 3: you can also download the Steelers Mobile app and get 995 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 3: that downloaded to your phone and also watch on YouTube, 996 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 3: which we also appreciate. That's going to do for our 997 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 3: number one of the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. 998 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 3: Matt and I will be back with our number two 999 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 3: right after this