WEBVTT - Ep 15: The Friend

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<v Speaker 1>Novel. This show contains adult material and swearing. You have

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<v Speaker 1>been warned. If I was a man, I would suck

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<v Speaker 1>Bond Dick for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey you can, you wouldn't be getting I'm really flexible. Well, Grace,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a lot of information.

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<v Speaker 3>Around me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a savage.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you bored of modern dating?

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<v Speaker 3>Meeting the same people from the same apps in the

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<v Speaker 3>same bar You've only chosen because it's close to your

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<v Speaker 3>house and you can make your usual quick getaway. It's

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<v Speaker 3>time to change the narrative on how we find love.

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<v Speaker 3>It's time to start looking for love in all the

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<v Speaker 3>wrong places. I'm going on a wild dating adventure, only

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<v Speaker 3>picking people who are the total opposite of my type.

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<v Speaker 3>And after twenty eight of these days in two months.

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<v Speaker 1>Will I find that special someone?

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<v Speaker 3>Or Well, this experiment proved that I should just give

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<v Speaker 3>up on dating altogether.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time to find out.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Grace Campbell and this is twenty eight dates later.

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<v Speaker 2>Grace, how are you, hiver Oz, I'm good?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very good. I'm excited to hear about this week's date.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is someone and I don't really think me

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<v Speaker 3>and this person ever actually went on a date to

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<v Speaker 3>be honest, we were just friends and then just got

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<v Speaker 3>with each other like once after a night out.

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<v Speaker 1>But I wanted to sort of try it see what

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<v Speaker 1>it was like.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess because in my life right, I have kind

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<v Speaker 3>of messed up quite a lot of relationships with my

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<v Speaker 3>male friends by having sex with them. And it's something

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<v Speaker 3>like all my gay friends are so good at like

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<v Speaker 3>sleeping with each other and it not really like causing

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<v Speaker 3>a s rip. I feel like there's something about straight

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<v Speaker 3>men that once you've had sex with them, they either

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<v Speaker 3>presume that you're in love with them and that when

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<v Speaker 3>you're just still trying to be friend, they're like, whoa, whoa,

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<v Speaker 3>whoa have you ever gotten with a friend?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? When I was younger, when I was a teenager,

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<v Speaker 2>I started going out with my best friend and it

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<v Speaker 2>totally ruined our friendship. Really yeah, So I learned the

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<v Speaker 2>lesson quite young, like that if you have a platonic friendship,

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<v Speaker 2>just keep it that way or you're going to ruin it.

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<v Speaker 2>And now, look, I that's just my experience. I could

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<v Speaker 2>be totally wrong. I do know friends who've gotten with

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<v Speaker 2>friends and they've still remained friends, But I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>is one of them feeling something and the other one

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<v Speaker 2>isn't Is it always gonna have an underlining awkwardness?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you never really know where it's going to go.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I've slept with friends in the past and thought,

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<v Speaker 3>this is like so casual, but then something will happen

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<v Speaker 3>where then one of us will get with someone else

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<v Speaker 3>and it will trigger a jealousy. Yeah, and then it

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<v Speaker 3>becomes complicated because like you're still friends, and so I've

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<v Speaker 3>sort of always vowed like, you know, I used to

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<v Speaker 3>have so many male friends. And my mum said this

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<v Speaker 3>the other day. She's just like, you used to have

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<v Speaker 3>so many male friends, and what happened? I was, like

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<v Speaker 3>I had sex with most of them, and then it

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<v Speaker 3>just became complicated and then we just talking.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder what the percentage is, Like I'd love to

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<v Speaker 2>a poll, like, have you ever got with a friend

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<v Speaker 2>hooked up and it's gone back to normal?

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<v Speaker 1>You should do that on your Instagram.

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<v Speaker 3>You should do that because if, in like the case

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<v Speaker 3>of a miracle, neither of you actually like each other

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<v Speaker 3>but you can have sex, that's great. The problem is

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<v Speaker 3>when you're friends with someone and you already have this

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<v Speaker 3>foundation of friendship, it feels more intimate because when you

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<v Speaker 3>geting with each other, you're like, we're already friends, we

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<v Speaker 3>already know each other really well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like a one like stand.

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<v Speaker 2>Another interesting topic like obviously i'd love to find out

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<v Speaker 2>like can you return to a platonic relationship after having

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<v Speaker 2>like very built into sexual relations with your friend or

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<v Speaker 2>you know. The other question is like would you tell

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<v Speaker 2>a new partner if you have casually hooked up with

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<v Speaker 2>your friend a lot of times even though nothing's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this is an issue.

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<v Speaker 3>In my last relationship, like this, this was an issue

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<v Speaker 3>because we would go out and like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>would sort of say, by the way, I've had sex

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<v Speaker 3>with him, And then it got to this point where

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<v Speaker 3>he was like, you've had sex with like all of

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<v Speaker 3>your friends And I was like, because I at the

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<v Speaker 3>time was sort of twenty five and still my main

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<v Speaker 3>friendship group was my like school friends, and I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I have, but like it's not that deep, like I

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<v Speaker 3>don't really you know, I had no feelings for any

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<v Speaker 3>of them. Yeah, But then it became this sort of

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<v Speaker 3>thing where then I then made it a thing where

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<v Speaker 3>I was like I want to know, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if we're out and we're with someone that you've gotten with,

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<v Speaker 3>And then it became this thing where we would almost

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<v Speaker 3>sort of like do it to like show off to

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<v Speaker 3>each other of like, yeah, how many of our friends

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<v Speaker 3>we've gotten with?

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<v Speaker 2>So Gray, He's like, after all the past things that

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<v Speaker 2>have happened, and considering you don't have as many mare

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<v Speaker 2>friends anymore, would you consider like dating a friend?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I did it for this episode, so tell me

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<v Speaker 3>about them. I've known him for a while, like we'd

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<v Speaker 3>like matched on a dating app years ago and then

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<v Speaker 3>never met. And then I think a year or so after,

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<v Speaker 3>like we followed each other on Instagram or something like that,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I remember he was like I really recognize you,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, yeah, it's because we matched on

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<v Speaker 3>hinge like a year ago, Like that's where you remember

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<v Speaker 3>me from.

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<v Speaker 2>So is that how you became friends?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>And then we just like became friends like through that,

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<v Speaker 3>And I didn't really think it was ever anything more

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<v Speaker 3>than that.

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<v Speaker 2>But so you did meet on the premise of dating.

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<v Speaker 3>That we did originally and then like after that didn't

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<v Speaker 3>if that makes sense, because we'd like naturally dating out

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<v Speaker 3>like a year before. It was also kind of awkward

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<v Speaker 3>because I hadn't seen him for a while, and like

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<v Speaker 3>he doesn't live in London, and I think he was

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<v Speaker 3>really nervous about the fact that we were being recorded.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so how does this actually work?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you come preprepared if any questions?

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<v Speaker 1>Or No? I have really good chat?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh Jesus right, Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't do. Do you think I am a good chat?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know me?

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<v Speaker 4>Well? I mean for this side of Lamb Jack, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you not think I have a good chat?

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<v Speaker 4>I do? I do?

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<v Speaker 1>I do?

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<v Speaker 2>And you feed bad me?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think I'm a good conversation? List be honest speaking?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I do?

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<v Speaker 3>I do?

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<v Speaker 2>I do.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not I'm not going to get myself in trouble?

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<v Speaker 3>Am I So?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? Again?

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<v Speaker 3>What is pretty terrible outside?

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<v Speaker 2>I find it hard to believe you guys ever had

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<v Speaker 2>a vibe. I'm being quite honest.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, I felt that made me sad because I think

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<v Speaker 3>we get along really.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Like all we doing with together is laugh.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of felt like that was so awkward to

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<v Speaker 2>listen to.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, I just completely that I just disagree, Like all

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<v Speaker 3>I do when I'm with him is just take the

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<v Speaker 3>bit out of him.

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<v Speaker 2>But that is your what I've learned your style of communication, conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm bad.

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<v Speaker 2>You could never go out with someone who like took

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<v Speaker 2>things personally.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, but can I tell you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like it is very much like me and my

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<v Speaker 3>friends and my family. If you can't take a joke,

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<v Speaker 3>you should not spend time with us. Yeah, you're always

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<v Speaker 3>going to leave feeling offended.

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<v Speaker 2>So you love to rip the piss out of people,

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<v Speaker 2>but also you want to be what's that word praised? Praise,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's another word affirmed affirmed. Yeah, you need to

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<v Speaker 2>be friend constantly.

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<v Speaker 1>I do.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm really I'm really needy. We really need He wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Really giving you any kind of feedback. He was actually,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know the correctrum nagging to call it, but

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<v Speaker 2>he was kind of like almost making you feel like

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<v Speaker 2>it was bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think he was joking. This was a stressful day,

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<v Speaker 3>like in terms of the recording. I had a gig

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<v Speaker 3>in this bar, and like timing wise, we had to

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<v Speaker 3>do it in the bar of the venue that I

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<v Speaker 3>was about to do again. And it's one of the

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<v Speaker 3>only ones I felt really conscious that I was being

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<v Speaker 3>recorded because it was with someone I know that makes

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<v Speaker 3>sense like all of the other days, it's like, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not really thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm more in the moment, whereas this I think we

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<v Speaker 3>both felt quite self conscious. And then we're in this

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<v Speaker 3>bar where I was getting like recognized quite a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you coming to the you know that's where you

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<v Speaker 1>because I have that vibe.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right that you're coming, because I was just worried

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<v Speaker 3>that there wasn't going to be young women. Okay, great, way,

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<v Speaker 3>it'll be really fun.

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<v Speaker 1>It's through the bat.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>That like why is she saying?

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<v Speaker 2>Does this happen a lot?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you asking me that?

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<v Speaker 3>Genuinely?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that joke? I can't go anywhere in London?

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you think? Like obviously you're talking there

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<v Speaker 2>about like are you a good conversationist? Like is he

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<v Speaker 2>a good conversationist? Because like I didn't really get to

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<v Speaker 2>hear much of him there. I just heard him firm

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<v Speaker 2>me you you like me? So like from off the dates,

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<v Speaker 2>like you go in deep your questions on dates straight

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<v Speaker 2>away you were asking some juicy things that I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't even ask them a year into relationship. I like,

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<v Speaker 2>is that appropriate? You're like, You're like wild, You're like, so,

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<v Speaker 2>who was your last bang? Did you write anyone last night?

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<v Speaker 2>You had?

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<v Speaker 1>Reason?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, so like did you did you get into

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<v Speaker 2>any of that?

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<v Speaker 3>Let's let's be cause I think at one point we

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<v Speaker 3>were talking about swallowing your own com.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you tried drawings?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I would if I was the man, just

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<v Speaker 1>to see what.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm not that curious.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have good reviews? I've never asked really pretty

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<v Speaker 1>terribly feedback.

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<v Speaker 2>I've told you this, you should last night?

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<v Speaker 4>FI. No, mainly enough, I don't think guys are very

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<v Speaker 4>open about tasting their own cum.

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe I should.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I should start like pulling my friends. Yeah, if

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<v Speaker 2>you were a lad, you'd have a questionare out the

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<v Speaker 2>side of your bed, and when someone we finished, you'd

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<v Speaker 2>be like, can you just fill that out? Please? That's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, that's what I know. That what you do.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, he was the man, I would suck my own

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<v Speaker 1>dick for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey you can't, you can?

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<v Speaker 1>You wouldn't be I'm really flexible.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, well, Grace, that's a lot of information. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know that conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>I think because I have a stand up routine about

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<v Speaker 3>how you can sort of assess the physical health of

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<v Speaker 3>a man by the taste of their car.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, is that a joke?

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's for real, Like men of smoke a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>their com is disgusting.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry. Sorry, Okay, So the next guy, if anyone's dating you,

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<v Speaker 2>have a health check. No, I don't need to help check.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to come and then I can tell.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like some colductor. You're like, I think you don't

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<v Speaker 2>taste right.

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<v Speaker 3>I once dated a guy and there was something so

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<v Speaker 3>weird about his calm, like disgusting, like disgusting, and then

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<v Speaker 3>he found out that he was really deficient in bittermin

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<v Speaker 3>d and then he started taking supplements and his com

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<v Speaker 3>tasted better.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, grace, you should you should become like it should.

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<v Speaker 3>Be like a savant, like I'm a psychic. I'll take

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<v Speaker 3>your carmel, I'll tell you your future.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you faked an orgasm?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 4>Really no, I definitely wish that things have been shorter

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<v Speaker 4>than well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I've stopped.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you stop take it, yeah, and be like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I've done it.

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<v Speaker 2>I need I need a naugh It's.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like loads of men take orgasms. How could

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<v Speaker 1>you the conduct.

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<v Speaker 2>Where do you fucking meet these people?

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<v Speaker 1>People tell me? Crazy ship?

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<v Speaker 3>What has that happened to you? No? Well, probably like

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<v Speaker 3>now I'm paranoid has That's why I'm asking you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going back, I've ever had taxes? Like?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you have fake?

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<v Speaker 2>Is this what this whole day in series fine about?

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<v Speaker 3>Can I just say, Rod's your face when you heard

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<v Speaker 3>that thing? When I said men fake orgasms? You did

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<v Speaker 3>go a bit like.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa, Yeah, I was like what it always shocks people?

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<v Speaker 1>One in four men?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like I enough to price. Look, we've all been there,

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<v Speaker 2>We've all faked orgasms because we're like, we're just over

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<v Speaker 2>this right now. I just couldn't be arrest doing this

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<v Speaker 2>any longer. But can I just say, like, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's funny thinking of them faking it because it's like acting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh no, this is what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So I now know when I'm having sex with

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<v Speaker 3>a man and they come, I'm like, you cannot be faking,

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<v Speaker 3>because if you were faking, you would not sound like that,

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<v Speaker 3>Like men sound so unfavorable when they orgasm. Not to

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<v Speaker 3>give everyone a complex, but like now when I have

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<v Speaker 3>sex with a guy or like listen to the sounds America,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, that was a real orgasm because they

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<v Speaker 3>sounded like they were crying and wanted to call their mom,

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<v Speaker 3>Like that was the vibe that they were giving me.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny, like I've keep saying to my friends, like

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<v Speaker 3>this knowledge that men fake orgasms has not been good

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<v Speaker 3>for my like anxiety. Yeah, I just have to trust

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<v Speaker 3>the process and trust it when they're making these like

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<v Speaker 3>baby sounds that they are fully legitimately orgasmic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And you know what, whenever I fake an orrialism,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not because I'm like, oh, this isn't good. It's

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<v Speaker 2>more like I'm not in the zone. I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And like I just feel like there should be like

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<v Speaker 3>an easier way of saying that without having to fake it.

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<v Speaker 3>Because that's why women fake orgasms so much, is because

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<v Speaker 3>we are all worried that we're going to offend someone

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<v Speaker 3>if we say really sorry, like I'm not gonna come.

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<v Speaker 3>You're worried that they're going to like take it personally,

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<v Speaker 3>and so that's why we fake it. But if we

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<v Speaker 3>could just like more easily say, like, by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>like the end of sex doesn't always have to be

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<v Speaker 3>like both of us coming like or.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, as Grace would say, you could just come

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<v Speaker 2>into a cup and we can I'll just drink it

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<v Speaker 2>and check your health, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Or you could just go to the bin and then

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<v Speaker 3>I'll go and try it with my mouth and then

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<v Speaker 3>I'll come back in and I'll say you need to

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<v Speaker 3>go to the doctor's mate.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically, it just happens quite a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>But like I'll forget them with my period, i won't say,

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<v Speaker 3>or I'll come on with him when I'm coming to

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<v Speaker 3>and then like the man will be like, oh, you're

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<v Speaker 3>you're bleeding and I'm like okay, like so and then

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<v Speaker 3>they're like I've done.

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<v Speaker 1>It despite that, when it's like it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>How an intention like you to say, are these people

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<v Speaker 3>that this guy that I was seeing and like the

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<v Speaker 3>first time he was like, it's cool, it's poor, no problem,

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<v Speaker 3>no problem, And the second time he was like, I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like you are doing your purpose. You're not telling

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<v Speaker 3>me on purpose, and then they're just planned everywhere. I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like people who react like either way, there's something

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<v Speaker 3>wrong with you if.

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<v Speaker 4>You react either way if you react or you react

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<v Speaker 4>going oh, there's not real against me whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>If you react like, oh my god, amazing blood, like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a vaire, Well that's a bad, terrible do you

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<v Speaker 3>think Do you think because my friends keep saying to me,

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<v Speaker 3>like I always talk about other people i've banged on

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<v Speaker 3>first dates?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you do? Do you think that's a bad

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<v Speaker 2>thing to do? I look, from what I've learned from

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<v Speaker 2>basically going on data to you, there's no right or wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>like do you know what I mean? And it depends

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<v Speaker 2>on the vibe of the other person, like it might

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<v Speaker 2>open a conversation and create a good communication from the

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<v Speaker 2>get go, but I suppose personally would I probably not,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I would just use the first day to establish

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<v Speaker 2>like do I have any similarities with this person? Like

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<v Speaker 2>do I fancy? Then what I realized I'm a basic bitch.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm like, do you ever been to the zoo?

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<v Speaker 2>What's your favorite daughter? And you're like, have you tasted

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<v Speaker 2>your own comm I'm like, Jesus Christ, if I get

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<v Speaker 2>back in with dating game, I'm like, such a loser,

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<v Speaker 2>what the hell?

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<v Speaker 3>But I feel like I'm I'm you know, it's a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm aware of that, and I've never thought about

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<v Speaker 3>it till I've done this and I've had to listen

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<v Speaker 3>back to myself.

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<v Speaker 2>But like that's your personality, Like why change your personality

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<v Speaker 2>for a first date. You may well let people know

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<v Speaker 2>kind of you know who you are and what your

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<v Speaker 2>topics of conversation are like and what your interests are,

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<v Speaker 2>and like, you know, you are extremely open person so

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't think you should hide that.

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<v Speaker 3>Just sometimes I think about this with like people like

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<v Speaker 3>this where it's like a friend that I've gotten with

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<v Speaker 3>in the past, and then like I'll like talk so

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<v Speaker 3>openly about like other people that I'm getting with. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that's the way of me establishing like it's not

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<v Speaker 3>that deep. But I understand that maybe sometimes that can

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<v Speaker 3>be like a bit jarring because I feel like I

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<v Speaker 3>have a bit of a double standard, where like if

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<v Speaker 3>he started talking like that about the people that he'd

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<v Speaker 3>been getting with, I think I'd be like, WHOA, do you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know what I mean, Grace, that's bad. You're like, you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>I can do it, but if you do it, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to search in the bin and make sure the

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<v Speaker 2>whole clip there about being on your period having sex.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's stigma around that is there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there is.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry saying the person. I've literally been in a

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<v Speaker 2>relationship since I was like fifteen, so i'd say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I think when you're in your relationship, there probably

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<v Speaker 2>isn't Danny, Yes, it's like whatever, but like maybe there is,

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<v Speaker 2>like when you're having one night to dance or just

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<v Speaker 2>hooking up with people.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, Like I have friends who don't have

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<v Speaker 3>sex on my period of their long term partners. Mm hmm,

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<v Speaker 3>but like you know what I mean, right, No, I know,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's obviously it's crazy to me.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a busy gal. You know, there's a few days

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<v Speaker 2>a month or your first because you're you know, like busy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it happens famously. You get really horny when you're

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<v Speaker 3>in your period.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly was exactly to not make the most of.

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<v Speaker 3>Like being really horning and also what's like what you

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<v Speaker 3>have to like put some sheets in a washing machine

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<v Speaker 3>like grow up. I have had that quite a few times,

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<v Speaker 3>where like I'll just presume that it's fine to have

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<v Speaker 3>sex with someone on my period, so like I won't

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<v Speaker 3>even say anything, and then they'll be like, oh, there's blood,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, yeah, blood, and I'm like, oh, grow up,

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<v Speaker 3>have you ever seen blood before?

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<v Speaker 2>So I wonder that's a good question, Like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if you're hooking up with the guy you don't like,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not in a relationship with, do you have to

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<v Speaker 2>let them know I'm on my period? Do you want

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<v Speaker 2>to do this or not?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you should.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I don't ever like consciously not do it,

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<v Speaker 3>like forget and then we're having sex and I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll just tell them like once there's blood.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, great, I've another grace, And how do you forget?

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<v Speaker 2>Like do you have to take your tampon it?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, you know, I'll just do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Down the side of the bed, grace.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, no, stop it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I feel like I am I'm too much. I'm disgusting.

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<v Speaker 2>I suppose you do need to let themone know if

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<v Speaker 2>you're on your period.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it depends what day of the period you're on.

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<v Speaker 3>At the end of the period where there's no blood, like,

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<v Speaker 3>I really don't think it matters.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, well there's no blood, but it's more in

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<v Speaker 2>the jump scare that they're not like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>my dick is falling off. Fuck just blood everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is so true.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so true. Having sex with my period before and

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<v Speaker 2>like that. It was actually I didn't know I had it.

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<v Speaker 2>It kind of like it like came while I was

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<v Speaker 2>having sex. So sex can bring on your period, is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah yeah, And like he pulled out whatever and

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<v Speaker 2>he went very quiet like I was, and he was like,

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<v Speaker 2>my I forgot and I was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>what's right? Very well, what's going on? Then I was like, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I have my periods. I'm very sorry about that. I

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, when it first comes, it comes like

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<v Speaker 2>a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's so funny. I've never thought

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<v Speaker 1>about it that that's the main character of me.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never thought, Wow, they must be scared that they're broken.

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<v Speaker 1>Their foreskin jump scared, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>You just need to give them their heads up. They

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<v Speaker 2>don't think their dick is falling off?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? Should we have bought this and then get another

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<v Speaker 3>drink and then you can watched me to stand up? Sure? Yeah? Sure,

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<v Speaker 3>you enjoy it?

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<v Speaker 1>Did I enjoy with this?

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<v Speaker 2>Check? I always enjoyed. It's always it's always a pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>Never children, So, Grace, would you ever date a friend

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<v Speaker 2>again after that date? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think so.

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<v Speaker 3>I think like I've got to be just careful in

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<v Speaker 3>the future with making situations unnecessarily complicated for myself, So

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<v Speaker 3>if it's going to be too complicated, it's probably not

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<v Speaker 3>worth it.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I also feel like there's.

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<v Speaker 3>A nice thing about meeting someone not on a dating app.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, in this instance, we originally made on a

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<v Speaker 3>dating app, but do you know what I mean, like

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<v Speaker 3>it not being like we've natural a dating app. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>go over a date, like after two interactions, it's quite

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<v Speaker 3>nice there being some kind of relationship prior to that.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm not sure if it's ever going to go

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<v Speaker 3>well for your odds.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, do you ever think it to go back

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<v Speaker 2>to normal that you can be friends again after this

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<v Speaker 2>or is it too awkward? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I do, I do think so.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I'm eager to know in life if

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<v Speaker 3>this stuff is possible. Like I tried to be friends

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<v Speaker 3>with my ex boyfriend for a while, and it just

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<v Speaker 3>eventually like we were friends for like a year and

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<v Speaker 3>spoke all the time about like our new people we

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<v Speaker 3>were seeing and blah blah blah, and then eventually it

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<v Speaker 3>just became too much. So you can never really know

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<v Speaker 3>if this stuff is going to work until like it

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<v Speaker 3>just does naturally happen or it just feels out.

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<v Speaker 1>You never talked to.

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<v Speaker 2>Them, and I know, obviously the chat was like very mixed,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, you were going in deep with the chair,

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<v Speaker 2>and sometimes I did feel that we're awkward. But at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time, I think they were awkward because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a feeling you kind of do like this guy, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, because we do get on, but I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like, no, I feel like in a more like

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<v Speaker 3>long term way, we probably wouldn't be compatible. Like I

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<v Speaker 3>think maybe I am just a bit too much of

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<v Speaker 3>a fucking insane person for him. He's quite like Chill,

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<v Speaker 3>who knows we should get him on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>She get him on to interrogate him and have a

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<v Speaker 2>life testing. You can check us health, we'll see what

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<v Speaker 2>it's ask Grace, Oh my god. And no matter how

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<v Speaker 2>many dating one and how many times I sit and

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<v Speaker 2>talk to you, and I'm just never surprised anymore, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I live my life by churiously through your wild

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<v Speaker 2>man brain.

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<v Speaker 1>Next time. On twenty eight dates Later.

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly, the way he talks the person, it sounds like

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<v Speaker 4>he's trying to make you buy shares in his startup.

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<v Speaker 4>He's the kind of guy that gets a guitar out

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<v Speaker 4>at of the after party, like that's what it's given.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to hear wonder Wall. Oh, my girls

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<v Speaker 2>will see around for me. I'm a servy jo.

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<v Speaker 3>You can hear it?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you giving to?

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty eight Days Later is produced by Novel for iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 3>For more from Novel, visit novel dot Audio. The series

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