1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sam, this is John, and we are 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: the founding hosts of Okay Storytime Podcast, and we have. 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 2: Some foundational stories coming up for you. 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: But the thing is this foundation needs a little support 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: from these sponsors. So stick around two minutes and we'll 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: get into the episode. 7 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 2: I actually ruin my friendship with my boss, who I 8 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 2: deeply admire. 9 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 3: Ooh, what'd you do? 10 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 2: I twenty seven Mal. I'm close friends with my boss, 11 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: forty one Mel and we're both guys. 12 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 4: Just like us. 13 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 3: We're just a bunch of silly guys. 14 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: He's about twenty years older than me. 15 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 3: Stop that. 16 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: But we speak very candidly and openly about other employees 17 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: and unfair policies. 18 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 3: It's just like Riley and myself. 19 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from Throwaway All Day Today, 20 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 2: one hundred and eleven. And if you want to spend 21 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 2: your old stories where you go Keon. 22 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 3: Good at the r slash Okay Storytime separate it. I'm Riley, 23 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 3: I'm Keon. 24 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 2: And we're here to give good advice. Goofily, but we 25 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: don't have one. 26 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 3: Keon kind of nervous now all the answers, I have 27 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 3: some of the answers, and. 28 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: If they have anything they'd like to share more. What 29 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: do they gotta do? 30 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: Leave a comment below, oh, or come over here and 31 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 3: tell us yourselves. 32 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: As Op says, we played cards about every day. At lunch, 33 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 2: we talk about relationships and personal stuff. We even got 34 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: tattoos together. I always got a tattoo with John. 35 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 3: I have a tattoo with Dakota. 36 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: Well, we almost got the OK symbol. 37 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 3: Where would you get it? 38 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: You know, where where they didn't. I would only have 39 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: to put the K where oh was already there where 40 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 2: they didn't match. But he told me he'd always wanted 41 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: a tattoo, So I went with him and got on myself. 42 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 2: I think they're about to fall in love. I've been 43 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: working for him for three years and gave my notice yesterday. 44 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: I did get another job, and I let him know 45 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: that's why I was leaving. They were offering me significantly 46 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: higher pay. The boss is out all week, so unfortunately 47 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 2: I had to do this over the phone. Ooh, and 48 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: you guys have been that tight since. 49 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 3: Then, throw me a bone, boss guy. 50 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: I wasn't nervous, however, because on Friday he was telling 51 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: me how hard the job had come and how he 52 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: wanted to quit too, because he'd been offered another position 53 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: at a different company as well. He asked if he 54 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: should take it, and I told him to do what 55 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: makes him happy. The phone, he was fine, He even 56 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 2: congratulated me. 57 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 3: He starts doing you who would do? 58 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 4: Make me happy? 59 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 3: All right? 60 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: Bro? 61 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 2: Are you getting that too? What little romance? 62 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 3: No? 63 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: Really, they got tattoos together? Dude? 64 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 3: Does that mean Dakota and I? Oh? 65 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, see exhibitor. 66 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 3: Matching tattoos with people? 67 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:25,399 Speaker 2: Name another one. 68 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 3: His name's Dylan. 69 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: Didn't you and Dylan have a thing. 70 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 3: No. 71 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: On the phone, he was fine, he even congratulated me. 72 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 2: But then the text started coming in. He basically said 73 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: the timing was interesting. So Friday is going to be 74 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: my last day? He said I had been coming in 75 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 2: late and leaving early, which isn't true. I even found 76 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: my in and out times to prove it. Added that 77 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 2: my willingness to give such short notice tells him where 78 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 2: I am. I didn't give him tons of notice, only 79 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: ten days, but I said I would be able to 80 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 2: help out remotely for as long as they needed me, 81 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: and could come in whenever they needed me up until 82 00:02:58,440 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: the start date of my new job. 83 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 4: Op. 84 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 2: He sounds pretty flexible. 85 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. 86 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 2: Edit, that's eight working days and two weekend days. 87 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 3: I suck. 88 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: I know. My boss told me they were fine and 89 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: that the office didn't need me. No lunch, no send 90 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: off for my years of work, nothing. He's never been 91 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: this rude, short, or cruel with me. I've never received 92 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: a bad performance review or even a comment about my 93 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: commuter hours. I understand I probably could have quit better, 94 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: but we were friends on Friday, and I love the guy. 95 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 3: How much do you love him? 96 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 2: Okay? If you guys are saying it's a bromance, say 97 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: it now, it's a bromance. I want to see some 98 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: bromance vibes here. 99 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 3: Kiss. 100 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: He is so one I could see as a lifelong 101 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: mentor and friend. For him to dismiss me like this, 102 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: he must have been livid. I feel like such a knucklehead. 103 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: I know I heard his feelings, but it wasn't personal. 104 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: It's business, okay, right, I don't know. I don't know 105 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: for him. 106 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 3: To him, it was personal, it wasn't business. 107 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: How can I begin to repair this? And we have 108 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 2: a top comment here? I assume ten days means ten 109 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: working days aka two weeks. Oh no, it's a total 110 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: of ten days, two days or a weekend. It's short notice, 111 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: a combo of a three day weekend not being able 112 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: to get in touch with him while he took the 113 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: week off. Hope, he replied to a deleted comment. It 114 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: was my fault and I should have done better. I 115 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: had friends coming into town, and the full two weeks 116 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 2: caused me to miss most of their trip. They were 117 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: only here to come see me because I told them 118 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 2: I got unlimited paid time off, which I did, but 119 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: I hadn't gotten this job offer yet. So I figured, 120 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: since I'm closing on a big project in today's which 121 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: happened to be the day before they were in town, 122 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: that wouldn't be too big of a deal to save 123 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: off those four days. So he basically put in these 124 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: two days notice so he could spend like an extra 125 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: couple of days with his buds. 126 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 3: Oh he did this like very strategically. I like from 127 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 3: you know, taking your time off with like, oh, I 128 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 3: have all these six days whe I could take these 129 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 3: times these days off. Your strategy was sound and you 130 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 3: can't be upset about it. But the way you'd like, 131 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 3: you didn't tell your boss friend you know, which you've 132 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 3: known for a very long time, which I can see 133 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 3: his point of view, like, dude, that was like, I 134 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 3: get it, that was sleazy. But I'm also like your 135 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 3: friend you didn't tell me from like both perspectives are like, 136 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 3: I'm your friend but also your boss. Both perspectives not cool. 137 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 2: Bro, Yeah, it's weird. This is kind of weird. I 138 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 2: don't like it personally. 139 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 3: You could, you could have handled it a lot better. 140 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 3: I feel like you just like I got the job. 141 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 3: It was easy. I get I put ten days. That's 142 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 3: all they need and they don't need it more than that. 143 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 3: That's great, good luck. 144 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: It's weird, fine hams abound comments. You think maybe your 145 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: friend is mad, not because he's your boss and gave 146 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 2: short notice, but because you recently had a conversation about 147 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 2: his career path and did not use the opportunity to 148 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 2: be candid with him about your own current decision. I'd 149 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 2: be pretty pissed if I thought I was good friends 150 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: with someone and they blindsided me with ten days notice 151 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: about a decision they absolutely had more time to contemplate. 152 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: But he says, this man is my boss. Even if 153 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 2: we were best homies in the world, he was my boss. 154 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 2: I could not tell my boss of my decision to 155 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: leave until I had secured a job offer from my 156 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: new place. 157 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 3: What I feel like, that's no. I feel like that's 158 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 3: a major excuse. I've been friends with my bosses before 159 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 3: and maybe the relationships different, But the fact that you 160 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: were like talking about policies in the workplace sucking or 161 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 3: be like yeah, I feel like, come on, op, if 162 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 3: you were in his shoes, I feel like, if you 163 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 3: guys are really that cool, he would have been like, dude, 164 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 3: I'm happy for you take the job, especially when you 165 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 3: brought it up and you kind of like, oh, if 166 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 3: you got that, like that new job, would you take 167 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 3: it kind of thing. I don't know, you're kind of 168 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 3: being sleazy about. 169 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: It, very sleazy. 170 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,799 Speaker 3: And he's my boss. I'm not gonna tell my boss 171 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 3: my boss friend, even though he's like a friend and 172 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 3: like we're tight. Couldn't you tell him about that? 173 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? I know you had a significant pay raise. Could 174 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 2: you have like a negotiated anything. 175 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 3: I feel like anything should have been brought up, especially 176 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,239 Speaker 3: if this you say you you and your boss were close. 177 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 3: Sean says, never say anything to your boss unless the 178 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 3: other job is ready. I understand, Ope. 179 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 2: I mean I get it. I think you should have 180 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: gained more time, more notice. 181 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 3: I feel like it depends on your relationship. But if 182 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 3: he's all like professional even then yeah, if it's. 183 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: Professional, it shouldn't be this big of a deal. I 184 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 2: know it's weird. Oh, I don't disagree, but was just 185 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: offering another possible reason for his odd reaction. I would 186 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: actually argue that this is exactly why people can't truly 187 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: buddy up to a boss. There is still a power 188 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: in balance. Sometimes short notice is all we can give. 189 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 2: But you seem to have offered a temporary solution to 190 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 2: ease the transition, while still frustrating and an inconvenience. He 191 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: seems to be taking this news extremely personally. That makes 192 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 2: me think he really doesn't understand the boundaries of what 193 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: your work friendship should have been. Hope. He says. I'm 194 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: in the office today and he won't even look at 195 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: me professionally, speak out loud, leaves every room I enter. 196 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm in the twilight zone. And I 197 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: even looked up the past two months of my parking 198 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: history to make sure I was secretly slacking off. And 199 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: I've never left early on the same day I came 200 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: in late. I purposely come in early or leave late, 201 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 2: so all averages out. I really don't know what's going on, 202 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: and grub thirty four says, congrats on the new position. 203 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: Ten days is plenty of time when giving notice. You 204 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: didn't do anything wrong. I would assume your boss is 205 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: a little blind sided than hurt. When he's in the 206 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 2: office next. It would probably go a long way to 207 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: talk to him face to face and let him know 208 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: exactly what you said here. It's a good opportunity, and 209 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: don't be silly not to take it. Tell him how 210 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: you appreciated his guidance and leadership through the years and 211 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 2: really wanted to maintain the friendship. He might just have 212 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 2: hurt feelings. His reaction isn't okay, but having a conversation 213 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 2: about it might clear the air. Nope, he says, just 214 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: a quick update for you guys. My boss is actively 215 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 2: avoiding me, so the last meeting we will have is 216 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: the morning of my last day. Okay, update two days later. 217 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. Is this too much? 218 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 3: I mean, ten days is more than enough. Is it 219 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 3: a blind side? Yes? Your boss friend being petty and 220 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 3: like weird about it? 221 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: Also, yes, forty one. 222 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 4: I don't know. 223 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 3: I would the fact that he's avoiding you. He can't 224 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 3: have a full and conversation with you because of the 225 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 3: giant elephant in the room, and he's upset at you. 226 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 3: Makes sense, Like, I guess there's a lot of emotions 227 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 3: going on there. I would just go in his office like, hey, listen, 228 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 3: because of you, I got this job. I wanted to 229 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 3: talk to you, man to man where But I am 230 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 3: your friend and he's I guarantee you my friend wouldn't 231 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 3: blindside me like this. But you know what I had 232 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 3: to pull. I had to do this. It was very 233 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 3: short notice. You know, I didn't have a choice. Like, 234 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 3: they gave me better pay, better everything, and I know 235 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 3: you guys couldn't counter that. I'm sorry, that is it 236 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 3: is business. Don't take it personally. You are still my friend. 237 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 3: But it was a better opportunity for me. And you 238 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 3: know I can't just stick here forever. 239 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 2: Yeah thing, Yeah exactly, I mean yeah, yeah, especially when 240 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 2: you get get paid more somewhere else. 241 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 3: Ye, it's a opportunity. Chapter As your friend, he should 242 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 3: be stoked for you. 243 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 2: Yeah. 244 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 3: As your boss, yeah, it kind of sucks, but he 245 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 3: should also be stoked for you. 246 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Update two days later, I got some responses, 247 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 2: So I figured i'd share what happened this week because 248 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: it's just the craziest start of the story. I'd give 249 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: this the start of this like a four out of ten. 250 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 2: What do you mean that's out of craziness? Oh yeah, 251 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 2: maybe three. 252 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 3: Well, no, we'll give no, I'll give tell him like 253 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 3: a three. That one about the cabana. 254 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 2: One yeah, yeah, but like this one two out of ten. 255 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 2: I wasn't shure there was no affair. There was no 256 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: It was just like I mean, I saw in my boss. 257 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 3: This is a bromance. 258 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 2: If they don't get together or there's not some kind 259 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: of love happening, it's a it's a. 260 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 3: Fair Toll says. Here's the thing though, he's calling him 261 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 3: his friend through the whole thing, but then at the 262 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 3: end when he was his boss. I think it's kind 263 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 3: of she says. She thinks it's kind of rude, like, 264 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 3: especially when you brought up that conversation topic. 265 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 2: Come on, yeah, surely, so Soon says you got tattoos together. 266 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 2: You should have talked to him sooner. He was more 267 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 2: than your boss and would have supported you. 268 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 3: I think that's what it is. 269 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely supported you. 270 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying he would have supported you, like 271 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 3: through thick and thin. 272 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I think it's hurt because you didn't come 273 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: to him sooner. 274 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 3: Or yeah, or ask for his advice or like anything. 275 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 3: You just kind of did your own You just did 276 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 3: your own thing, which again is fair and you're allowed to. 277 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 3: But I don't think you owe him. You don't necessarily 278 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 3: owe him. I'm like all your life details, but this 279 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 3: was a pretty big decision of one leaving the company 280 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 3: or leaving your job and leaving your friend. 281 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 2: So the day after my boss chewed me out over text, 282 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 2: he avoided me in the office, refused to speak to me. 283 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: I left every room I walked into. We had a 284 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 2: brief work only related conversation about taking over my project. 285 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 2: Then he left for the day, so I waited because 286 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 2: he loved something when he rushed out that I knew 287 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 2: he had to get back. Finally, our returned and he 288 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: awkwardly asked how I'm doing, and I said, not great 289 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 2: because he's really mad at me. And then it begins. 290 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: He tells me he isn't mad at me, but he 291 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: feels like he's been taking advantage of launches into this 292 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 2: entire story about giving me so many opportunities. How it 293 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 2: used to be great and a great member of the office, 294 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 2: but ever since October, when we received significant evidence of 295 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: employment safety concerns employees, neither of us oversee I've been 296 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 2: checked out. He said, everyone noticed I was coming in late. 297 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 2: I refuted him that I never left early, so he 298 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 2: dropped it. He said our relationship had changed. He said, 299 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: my relationship with my coworkers had changed. He said, to 300 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 2: be underperforming in this way and to leave was slapped 301 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 2: to his face. I wanted to be very clear, this 302 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: is the first time he's ever told me of this problem. 303 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 2: No one, not my boss, not my co workers, ever 304 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 2: told my commuter hours were a problem. I asked for 305 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 2: these hours in my interview and was specifically told, we 306 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: don't care when you're in the office, just that you 307 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: get the work done. Okay, So then why this is 308 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: a problem. 309 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 3: Again, It's just your boss friend is being a little 310 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 3: petty again. He's being hurt. Is this is coming from 311 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 3: his emotions and like how like how dare you do 312 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 3: this kind of stuff? And now he's getting all like 313 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 3: the semantics and all like the reading in between the 314 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 3: lines kind of things and holding against you, which he 315 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 3: shouldn't be, but he's just upset. 316 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:39,359 Speaker 4: He spaghetti yeah. 317 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 2: I told my boss I had completed several significant projects 318 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 2: since October, including a company record breaking campaign. Were they 319 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 2: not good enough? He told me it wasn't about the 320 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 2: work quality, it was about how painful it seemed for 321 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 2: me to get them done. So I was honest and 322 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 2: told him I felt like a chomp and I was 323 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 2: mortified by this news. I wasn't trying to be malicious 324 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 2: with my hours. I just if they were an issue, 325 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 2: then someone would talk to me about it. Instead, it 326 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 2: seemed like he just gone on my coworkers and complained. Finally, 327 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 2: I asked him, if I hadn't gotten this job, were 328 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 2: you ever going to tell me you thought I'd lost 329 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 2: passion for the work. He said he was just waiting 330 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 2: for the good employee button to switch back on, and 331 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 2: he didn't want to have a hard conversation. He told 332 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 2: me he still loves me as a person and is 333 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 2: happy to write me a good recommendation forever need one, 334 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 2: and then we both went home. Today was still my 335 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 2: last day, and everything was immediately back to normal. He 336 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 2: and I were still buddy buddy all day, and my 337 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 2: goodbye lunch, he pulls me aside and tells me he's 338 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 2: quitting because he's tired of it all, hates the company, 339 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 2: and hates working here. 340 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 3: Bro, you were the only reason he liked coming to work. 341 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 2: That's yeah, honestly. 342 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 3: And if his only reason to come to work was 343 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 3: you for the most part, and you're leaving and you 344 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 3: blindsided him, dude's gonna be really hurt. 345 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying here, And I'm guarantee you. 346 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 3: He doesn't want to tell you that or show you 347 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 3: his vulnerable side, and he's like kind of diluting it 348 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 3: to yeah, you just weren't performing well and I I 349 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 3: had to be a boss. I guarantee you. On the inside, 350 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 3: he's like my buddy, My buddy couldn't even confine in me, 351 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 3: and like, yeah, he was leaving because I wanted to 352 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 3: quit and he was the sole reason that I enjoyed 353 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 3: coming to work. 354 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: Why couldn't he just be for real about this? What 355 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 2: the heck tells me? He accepted a new f thing 356 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: awesomely paid off for this morning, and he's going to 357 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 2: be leaving in April. He bought me a gift and 358 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: when I left for the final time, he hugged me, 359 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 2: gave me a toast, hugged me again, and then in 360 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: the car he texted me thanking me for all I've done. Oh, 361 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 2: I am left feeling really weird. I'm not sure I 362 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 2: learned a lesson here or my boss and I are 363 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: still friends. I feel crappy still though, like I've been fired. 364 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: Any idea, what should I do? We have a little 365 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: edit here, go get a beer. 366 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 3: I don't know, you can't hang out with your friend 367 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 3: now because now he's the longer your boss. 368 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just your friend exactly. 369 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 3: You can go hang out with him, and you should. 370 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 3: You should celebrate him on his last day. Go into 371 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 3: the office. I feel like you won't be penalized for 372 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 3: that and celebrate and you know, do the same as 373 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 3: he did for you. Yeah, I did this. My friend 374 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 3: was like at my old job, my last job before this, 375 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 3: I was I'm still great friends with my boss, but 376 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 3: he was also friend first before my boss, and we 377 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 3: had a we have a great relationship. We had a 378 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 3: great relationship. Like if it was like I'm your boss, 379 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 3: you have to listen to what I say, I'd be 380 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 3: like sassy about it, but I'm like, okay, no, you're serious. Okay, 381 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 3: I'll do that. I'll do the job. And you know, 382 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 3: like there were times where like he would like not 383 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 3: come down on me, but he'd be like do this 384 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 3: or you like, you gotta like come. 385 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 2: On, man, like yeah, you need that sometimes. 386 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, so but I get it. It's a relationship. 387 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 3: But you hurt your friend at the end of the day, 388 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 3: and I feel like you should have told you that. 389 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 3: But all is all, Like you guys are friends. Go 390 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 3: hang out, Go get. 391 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 2: A drink, That's what I said. 392 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: Okay, you don't drink, Go go kiss. 393 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 2: No, I don't do that either. We I'm not supposed 394 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 2: to do. 395 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 3: Kaon, go cook something and make sure it's not dry. 396 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 2: I actually made really good potato soup this weekend. 397 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 4: Really, yeah, what was in the soup? 398 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 2: Potatoes, celery, onions, carrot began ha ha cheese. Okay, I 399 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 2: should have put carrots in it. But anyways, no meat, 400 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: I said, bacon. 401 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 3: Oh sorry, I skipped that edit. 402 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 2: Wow, y'all's amazing responses. I'm gonna try and get some 403 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 2: distance from the whole situation. Still feel really guilty, even 404 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: though I know it isn't my fault. Boss is a 405 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 2: weird man, I've got to comment here. Honestly, it's impossible 406 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 2: for anyone here to know if there was truth to 407 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 2: his feelings. Your update is kind of disjointed, but it 408 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: seems like you felt you were pasting since October. 409 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 3: Which you were. It seems like you were like, I'm 410 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 3: not working here anymore. I coasted at the very end 411 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 3: of my job. 412 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: I was like, coasting right now, No, are you quite quitting? 413 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 3: What would I be doing? 414 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 4: I don't know. 415 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: You can't kind of you can't really quite quit your. 416 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 3: No, exactly, I didn't. I mean also, I didn't quite 417 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 3: quit at that job. I was just like, hey, guys, 418 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 3: I'm going to go. And everyone was really sad about it. 419 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 3: But like at the like the last weeks, I was like, 420 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 3: I just don't care, Like I'm not going to do anything. 421 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 3: What are they going to do? Fire me? I'm leaving anyway. 422 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I suggest doing some thinking on your work ethics. 423 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: Is there truth to what he said? I have a 424 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 2: friend who is absolutely no ability to hide her emotions. 425 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: She's checked out and is going through the motions. It's 426 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 2: obvious even though she's producing good work. If he's wrong 427 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,479 Speaker 2: and projecting, that's one thing, But there's some truth. Maybe 428 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,719 Speaker 2: meditate on fresh approaches at your new job. Also, this 429 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 2: might just be my old fashioned approach, but I rarely 430 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: have seen blurring lines with bosses becoming good friends to 431 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: have a good great result. Friendly, sure, but keeping it 432 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 2: professional is usually way less likely to backfire on you. Up, 433 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 2: he says, I was definitely coasting when it came to 434 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 2: the office culture. Do you notice of employee safety? Caused 435 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 2: me to do some digging, and there was a bunch 436 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 2: of scary, weird practices going on at the company, dark 437 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 2: stuff that made me feel guilty and weird about working there. 438 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 2: What where are you? What is this? 439 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 3: Where did this come from? 440 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 2: Especially after I brought it to my boss, who echoed 441 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 2: my notes of horror and discussed, but whose manager did 442 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 2: not act. So I took a step back, just showed 443 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 2: up and got my work done and left. No buddy 444 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 2: buddy stuff, no long lunches or after hours conversations until 445 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,479 Speaker 2: eight pm because it felt wrong. You know. That, coupled 446 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 2: with my boss's obvious disdain for the work and open 447 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 2: complaints about the company, had me thinking the level of 448 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 2: hatred for the company was normal. I figured if my 449 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: commuter hour slash emotional detachment from the office culture was 450 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 2: an issue. Someone would have said something, where do you work? 451 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, this got more questionable. Where you work? 452 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: Can we be fine? You worked at Hooters? Wait, my 453 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 2: mom said, bosses is being petty because Opie seemed to 454 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 2: have that friend boss friendship vibe. But the boss seemed 455 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 2: to buy her about losing his friend. 456 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 1: Like. 457 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 2: He seemed like he thinks he's just friends with OPI 458 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 2: not a boss. Yeah. I think that's what happened there. 459 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 3: Again, I guarantee you that's what happened. Like you, he 460 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 3: literally told you, like, I'm quitting because I don't like 461 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 3: working here. He only enjoyed going to work and hanging 462 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 3: out with his buddy. He's like, I'm gonna see my 463 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 3: buddy today. It's like going to school. When you're a kid, 464 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 3: You're like, what's what's the best thing about school? My 465 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 3: friends like yeah, Like, yeah, I sure the education is great. 466 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 3: You get to learn, But why are you going to 467 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 3: school they hang out with your friends? 468 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? No, no, no. He honestly sounds like a terrible boss. 469 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: I don't mean he's a terrible person, just having this 470 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 2: level of emotional entanglement with a much younger subordinate, not 471 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: being able to distinguish your work relationship and your personal friendship, 472 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 2: wanting to avoid hard conversation, and just waiting for you 473 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 2: spontaneously to know he wasn't satisfied with your work. He 474 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 2: was a terrible manager. Sounds like a lot of the 475 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 2: dysfunction and dissatisfaction with your job may have actually stemmed 476 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 2: from the fact that your supervisor was just awful of 477 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 2: his job, even if you like him as a person. Yeah, 478 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: I could see that. It's like you've just been coasting 479 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 2: since October. He's probably been coasting. Dude's probably been coasting 480 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 2: for a while. Probably sounds like you've gotten really strange 481 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 2: unprofessional cues and behavior modeling from this job. You might 482 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 2: want to read some of the archives that ask a 483 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 2: manager or similar before starting this new job to get 484 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 2: a regrounding and what healthy, typical boss relationships look like. 485 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 2: Good luck. Another comment says, no, no, no, this entire 486 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 2: relationship is inappropriate. He was a terrible boss. He should 487 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 2: have never told you any of this. If there were 488 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 2: issues with your performance, he should have addressed them immediately. 489 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 2: He thought you were his little fan club and and 490 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 2: took it personally when you quit and threw a tantrum. 491 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: This guy's gross. Another comment says, not gonna lie. I 492 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 2: wonder if he's projecting his dissatisfaction onto you. I got 493 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 2: that feeling either way. Try to distance yourself emotionally a 494 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 2: bit until you can look at this with fresh eyes. 495 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 2: I agree, Yeah, it was a little weird, inappropriate. I 496 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 2: don't know. I think it's I think it's fine. 497 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 3: I think you could be friends with your boss. But 498 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 3: don't be like telling your boss every nitty little gritty 499 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 3: thing in your life, because that can come to bite 500 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 3: you back in the butt. But I feel like you 501 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 3: can be friends with your boss, you know if because 502 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 3: should everyone? You should be fine. Should there be a 503 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 3: level of being professional in it? Yes, But I think 504 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 3: you can be friends with your boss personally. 505 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 2: What do you guys think? Do you think this is weird? 506 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 2: True story The first and only time I went to Hooter, 507 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 2: someone and our party ordered a chocolate milk and it 508 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 2: was in fact gone bad. That is I'm so sorry. 509 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 2: Doctor Katie give me the find says my old bosses 510 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: were awesome. Owner bestie with my manager gave notice and 511 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 2: cut him. Came a competition there for a lot. 512 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, yeah, have you been friends with 513 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 3: your boss? Did you have like a more deeper relationship 514 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 3: with your bosses or any of your bosses where you work? I, like, 515 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 3: I said, like, I worked at a very professional job 516 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 3: a couple like a couple of jobs ago. Was I 517 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 3: friends with my boss? 518 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 4: No? 519 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 3: Was I cordial with them? Sure? Would I go out 520 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 3: with my boss to get a drink? No? At my 521 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 3: other job, one hundred percent, like I could, one hundred percent. 522 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 3: I could be very myself and very not proper and 523 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 3: then you know, tell him how it is and you know, 524 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 3: make fun of him and vice versa. But that was 525 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 3: also a different kind of relationship before I started that job. 526 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 3: So thanks, But we got another story. My friend invites 527 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 3: me on trips just to ask for gas money. 528 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: Cha ching, get pay me now? 529 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 3: I twenty three mail come from the city. So I'm 530 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 3: a veteran public transportation rider. Said that. 531 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 2: I was like, so nonchalantly like, veteran public transportation. 532 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 3: That's new VPTR. I have never heard of this, But 533 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 3: you do you? No? 534 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 4: I feel like it going going Okay. 535 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 3: I attend a university where public transportation isn't abundant but 536 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 3: still reliable. Recently, my friend twenty female got a new 537 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 3: car and excitement has been using it frequently. This has 538 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 3: led to her asking and later begging me to join 539 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 3: her on trips to the store, the mall, or anywhere 540 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 3: off campus. Okay, by the way, this comes from user 541 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 3: pseudo optics, and if you want to submit your own stories, 542 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 3: go to the r slash Okay story time sepbout it. 543 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 3: I'm key On, I'm Riley, and we're here to give 544 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,959 Speaker 3: good advice. Goofily. We don't have all the answers, maybe some, 545 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 3: but we only know what we do, so let us 546 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 3: know what you do in the comments. 547 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 4: Please. 548 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 3: As Opie says, at first, I agreed to these trips 549 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 3: since she was still in the freedom phase of owning 550 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 3: a car. I've asked this, when you got your car 551 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 3: or your driver's license, the first time you're driving, what 552 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 3: was the first thing that you did? 553 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 2: What the food line? What's food line like as it's 554 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 2: like a grocery store, it's like food city. 555 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 3: Cool. I went to a fast food restaurant like immediately 556 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 3: got my left like the DMV or like my like 557 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 3: whenever I got it, my mom was with me. Because 558 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 3: I'm still like seventeen, so I still needed an adult. 559 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 3: But I was like, we're going to get fast food, 560 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 3: and you can't tell me what to do because I 561 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 3: can drive now. 562 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I get the freedom phase. 563 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 3: After a few weeks, she started demanding gas money for 564 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 3: her service. I would normally pay for all my goods 565 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 3: and services, but I'm baffled at this. She invites me 566 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 3: on these little runs willingly, and mostly to places I 567 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 3: do not need or care to go. I have told 568 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 3: her often that I would rather use public transportation, as 569 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 3: my university student fees pay for it. When I turn 570 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 3: her down, she asked again or passive aggressively comments on 571 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 3: not spending time with her. I do not have a 572 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 3: lot of money compared to her. She comes from a 573 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 3: rich family and has a fair bit of cash on 574 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 3: her at all times. Then, girlypop, why are you asking 575 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 3: me for money? 576 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? Why don't you ask me to go everywhere with you? Like, yeah, 577 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 2: pay for yourself? What the heck? 578 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 3: I do not understand the underlying issue or how to 579 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 3: address it. And there's an edit. I am attracted to 580 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 3: the same gender. Oh, here we go, I'm Broadway musical 581 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 3: show tunes singing, mall going and if I have money 582 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 3: and take the bus. I am attracted to the same gender. 583 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 2: I knew it. I could tell. I mean really, I 584 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 2: mean yeah, I thought I just assumed. 585 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 3: Opie says, why is this so important? I don't know, 586 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 3: but apparently you guys think that from my inbox, that 587 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 3: I'm trying to sleep with her. 588 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 2: No, just no, yeah, that was the thought, Like did 589 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 2: she have a crush on you or did you guys 590 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 2: just besties? Small besties? 591 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 3: I mean, I just yeah, I feel like one, she 592 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 3: can't do things on her own. She wants a little 593 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 3: car companion, which is fine, but like, why would I 594 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 3: be paying for your gas services if she was driving 595 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 3: you to the airport or driving you around places that 596 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 3: you need to go. Sure, I get that, but. 597 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 2: It was all on her doing young Yeah, yeah, I 598 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 2: don't know. She's found she's found a way to manipulate you. 599 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's kind of smart for her, But I hope 600 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 3: you're not paying her because that's really dumb, especially if 601 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 3: she's rich. 602 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 2: By the way, Yeah, all right, she's ames from a 603 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 2: rich family. She's asking for. 604 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 3: She always has money on hand. Why do you need 605 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 3: that money? I'd be like, one, I'm not willing to 606 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 3: go Like, well, she. 607 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 2: Knows how to get money out of people. She's smart, 608 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 2: because you go, yeah, I think so. She does how 609 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 2: to get it from her daddy and from you. 610 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 3: Maybe you're her daddy. Whoa, we have some top relevent 611 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 3: comments user kjyes gn s k wow, and this is 612 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 3: also downloaded. She's using you because she can. You want 613 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 3: an effort, which OPI doesn't. She wants your money and 614 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 3: for you to be at your shoulder to cry on. 615 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 3: She's going to keep using you until you realize this 616 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,719 Speaker 3: and wake up. She's not going to f you, bro, 617 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 3: move on. Here's an edit. Yes, I know you didn't 618 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 3: say you want an ef her, but it's painfully obvious. Otherwise, 619 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 3: how is she even a friend if she treats you 620 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 3: like such crap? Opie responds with I am gay and 621 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 3: she knows I find her very unattractive, and that same 622 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 3: user also getting downloaded. Ha ha ha ha wow why 623 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 3: that f is she your friend? Then get right of 624 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 3: the witch. 625 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 2: You can't understand, I understand. If you don't want to 626 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 2: do her, then why are you hanging out with her? 627 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 3: I'm gay? Then why are you friends with her? That 628 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 3: comment is he's such a. 629 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 2: Bro chad he was yeah, he was at the gym, 630 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 2: like just curl in the fifties. Right now, she's not 631 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 2: gonna she's not gonna f you, dummy, freaking more on 632 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 2: over here. 633 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 3: Oh dude, you like you're tract to the same gender, 634 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 3: then why are you even why are you even talking 635 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 3: to her? 636 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, we got it. 637 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 3: Uh Ope responds with she has great qualities as a friend. 638 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 2: See how he didn't say a great personality. 639 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, the only great qualities. This started recently and came 640 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 3: out of left field. I have the thought the car 641 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 3: has changed her. She's become more entitled, but in a 642 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,719 Speaker 3: joking manner. She joked about going to the university and 643 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 3: demanding they give her a personal slash reserved parking space. 644 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 2: It's not too much of a high. She needs a job. 645 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 2: She needs to be humbled. 646 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 3: She's getting too someone too high. Well, I want to 647 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 3: know what car she's driving. 648 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 2: It's a Range Rover. 649 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, like a buw do. 650 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 4: Do do this? 651 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 2: Check from my eye school. She got a range Rover 652 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 2: from her parents. 653 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 3: She crashed it. 654 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 2: She didn't like the color and she started crying. Range Rover. 655 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 2: She also lives like eight minutes away from you right now, I. 656 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 3: Want to talk to her, I like me to those people. 657 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 3: I want to talk to her. Ah, I need to 658 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 3: talk to her. I need to I need I have 659 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 3: to ask him personal questions of her. I don't know 660 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 3: if this is a phase and it'll wear off in 661 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 3: a few days, or this is the real her. Opie 662 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 3: also replied to a deleted comment Opie saying I have 663 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 3: paid her for the first month when this started to happen, 664 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 3: since I actually got something from her trips, I figured 665 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 3: why not. But then this got increasingly worse. And gas 666 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 3: isn't cheap. It's even a pay half sort of deal. 667 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 3: It's a pay all for the gas. 668 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 2: Why are you doing this? 669 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 3: Why this girl needs to learn? This is a this 670 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 3: is a life situation. Girly pop, you got, you got? 671 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 3: She's like, wait, I need to pay insurance too? Wait? 672 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 3: I need to pay insurance? 673 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 4: What? 674 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 3: I have to renew my license? 675 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 4: What? 676 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 3: I just want to know what car she drives? But 677 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 3: also who is she? 678 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? Honestly this is so like this sounds. 679 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 3: Very high school. 680 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 681 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 3: Opie also replies to another deleted comment, saying, if I 682 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 3: was pining for spicy Sleep, I'd go for her attractive 683 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 3: older brother, though no amounts of him would make her 684 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 3: actions okay, hate that you're just like I want a brother, 685 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 3: go for her brother. 686 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 2: I guess this is why we're here. I still don't 687 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 2: understand why you're here. Man, Are you just yelted into it? 688 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 2: Is your CPP? Just? Is this bad? 689 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 3: I don't know. Another deleted user says, you straight up 690 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 3: tell her to stop asking if she expects you to 691 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 3: pay for her gas. Another user saying billages. But this 692 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 3: was an open and shutcase and we're onto an update 693 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 3: which is four days later. 694 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 2: I hope he learned how to say no to her. 695 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 3: I would call her out like if she really is 696 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 3: a friend, and like, hey, dude, you know I'm not 697 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 3: paying for your gas right and I will stop going 698 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 3: on car rides with you and fun trips with you 699 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 3: if you keep asking for me to pay for gas. 700 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 2: Also, you know I'm gonna be f reu. It's like 701 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 2: all of my gay friends that I know would not 702 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:32,719 Speaker 2: put up with this. 703 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 4: No. 704 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 2: They would be like, ah, honey, no, we're not excuse me. 705 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 2: They get all sassy and they'd be like you know. 706 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 3: What they say please. I'd even say like, no, you 707 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 3: should pay me. I'm your passenger. Princess. 708 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, where's my meal? I could call like three 709 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 2: gay dudes I know and they would say the same thing. 710 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, we have an update four days later. As 711 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 3: stated before, her actions are relatively recent. She hasn't had 712 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 3: a bad friend since I met her. She's one of 713 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 3: those super hulac theater push over tumblrgals. Oh boy, her 714 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 3: words not mine? 715 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 4: Oh lord boy. 716 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 2: She got that little Tumblr link in her bio. 717 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 3: And was interesting. So this took you by surprise. I 718 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 3: decided to sit her down in a public place and 719 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 3: speak with her about the issue. 720 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 2: After I took the bus to get there. 721 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I told her that I don't have a 722 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 3: lot of money and I won't flip the bill on 723 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 3: trips she invites me to. Of course, she got angry. 724 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 2: Oh you care, I'm just driving my curage. 725 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 3: She stated that I shouldn't use her and I was 726 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 3: a bad friend. I ended up giggling in reply, as 727 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 3: I do this when I'm nervous. This infuriated her. She 728 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 3: went on a long winded monologue about how she knows 729 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 3: my type and now since she's from Long Island, Ah. 730 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 2: That's why hey is John og host. 731 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to the stories, but a quick, 732 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: free minute break of ads from our sponsors. 733 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 3: Since she's from Long Island, I think she has money, 734 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 3: blah blah blah. When she finally stopped, I informed her 735 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 3: that was not the case. I explained that I don't 736 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 3: care about her parents' money, but our friendship. After further discussion, 737 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 3: she started a tear up. 738 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 2: Oh oh wait, why aren't she crying now? Is this 739 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 2: a manipulation tactic? 740 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 3: I don't know. 741 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 2: Sometimes people crying and I feel like it's a manipulation tactic. 742 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 3: Long Island if you don't know where that is. Long 743 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 3: Island's a place in New York. And uh, they got 744 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 3: it's like I'm the I'm walking here kind of thing, 745 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 3: Like they got the accent. They're New Yorkers. 746 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 2: Through. 747 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. Turns out that though mommy and daddy bought her 748 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 3: car and was providing her with gas money and allowance 749 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 3: per se, she was saving up for something she wanted. 750 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 3: This something was a five thousand dollars trip to have 751 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 3: her online boyfriend fly up this summer and put put 752 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 3: them in a ritzy hotel. And this is where I say, 753 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 3: give me back my money, Yeah, give me back my money. 754 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 2: What is this I. 755 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 3: Would say, Mmm, crime more than a river. Please cry 756 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 3: me in ocean because it's not gonna I don't care. 757 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 2: Online boyfriend. Oh, you sound like you can get any 758 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 2: boyfriend you want. 759 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 4: Not. 760 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 2: What the heck you've been catfish? 761 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? 762 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 3: Her parents didn't. 763 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Pretty soon you coun like AI generate FaceTime. 764 00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 3: I'm scared. 765 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 2: That's scary where you're like you won't even know. 766 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 3: Her parents didn't approve of her relationship, so they wouldn't 767 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 3: fund it. Apparently she's been hustling people out of their 768 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 3: money in order to fund the trip while continuing her 769 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 3: luxury loves lifestyle. I believe she expected me to feel 770 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 3: some sort of sympathy for her. She was very teary 771 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 3: eyed and stiffling about true love and how she's doing 772 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 3: this to meet the one. But I couldn't take it. 773 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,719 Speaker 3: I ended up explaining to her that she cannot use 774 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 3: people as human ATMs what mommy and daddy are, and 775 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 3: that even though she is a nice girl, I don't 776 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 3: appreciate her doing ugly things. Mmmm. Well that's a bomb. 777 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 2: That gets to those rich girls doing ugly things. They 778 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 2: hate that word. 779 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 3: Eh, it's a good phrase. She babbled on about how 780 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 3: I wouldn't understand because love her some crap. I sighed 781 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 3: and ended my friendship with her on the spot. 782 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 4: Dang good. 783 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 3: I spent a lot of time with this girl and 784 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 3: collected several good memories, just. 785 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 2: Several, probably about six or seven, you know. 786 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 3: About six or several memories. That's crazy. But someone who 787 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 3: refuses to see their own wrongdoings is not for me. 788 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 3: There's a little bit left. 789 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 2: You really want to get back at her, Stay her French, 790 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 2: keep your enemies closer than at what hotel? 791 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 3: Not even I'd be like, do your car no, no. 792 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 2: No, find out what hotel you're going to? Okay when 793 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 2: her boyfriend comes in? 794 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 3: No, I would tell everybody, like, stop funding funding her. 795 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 3: Make belief, Oh yeah, I do an Instagram post? Yeah, 796 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 3: like she's using. I would be like, anyone who knows 797 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 3: this girl, stop paying her. You're just trying to fund her. 798 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 3: By the way she's rich. By the way she's rich. Yeah, 799 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 3: did the car not show you that she's rich? She 800 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 3: probably flaunts it too, She's like, I'm rich. 801 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,959 Speaker 2: Pull up her daddy's net worth on Google. 802 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 3: I don't know. I wouldn't do I don't know. I 803 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 3: would just like stop funding her and like put put 804 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 3: on blast. 805 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 4: Honestly, let's finish up the story. 806 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 3: I've heard this in a long time. I wouldn't really 807 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 3: classify her as a tumblerina. She likes Tumblr culture, but 808 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 3: she isn't as radical slash insane as the ones I've 809 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 3: seen online. Second edit, still very much attracted to the 810 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 3: same gender. Yeah, and we have some top relevant comments. 811 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,239 Speaker 3: User bill Osby says that got me good name. I 812 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 3: often wonder what the ceiling is for people like this 813 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 3: in terms of personal growth. I know a lot of 814 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 3: people who were entirely self centered and ridiculous this in 815 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 3: their teens, who turned around and became mature and great humans. However, 816 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 3: I have not met many people who were able to 817 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 3: grow pass such behaviors after they hit twenty. I don't 818 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 3: know if it's some sort of critical period or if 819 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 3: I'm just entirely wrong, but it just seems like when 820 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 3: a person is still treating other people like props in 821 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 3: their life by the time they're supposed to be at 822 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 3: least somewhat personally independent and responsible, the future is bleak. 823 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 3: Let's hope that your ex friend learns how to be 824 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 3: a regular human person sometime in her future. However, you're 825 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 3: making the right move, not waiting around to find out 826 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 3: if she does. Use your exiled one two three X 827 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 3: says she's toxic. Good for you for ending your friendship, 828 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 3: which it's debatable if you could call it that. We 829 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 3: have two more comments. Use This scammer says many selfish 830 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 3: people simply do not realize they are selfish. They think 831 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 3: people don't understand their needs. But once you start lying, 832 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 3: you are a next level crap bag. And again, just 833 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 3: everyone's saying she's a greedy, selfish friend. 834 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, if you could even call her. 835 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 2: A friend honestly, dude, weird, weird, weird. 836 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 3: I don't like it that is in the story. 837 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 2: Good for you, op stand on business. 838 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 3: You know what? Like just again, say her car's ugly, 839 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 3: tell her she's a bad driver. I guarantee she's also 840 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 3: the type of person like who like bumps into a 841 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 3: car and she's like, that's fine, they won't notice they're 842 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 3: not there. Daddy will pay for exactly, or like, oh, 843 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 3: my dad will cover it. I don't have to worry 844 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 3: about that. You have to worry about that. That's crazy, 845 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 3: don't we give it a story? 846 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 2: My friend told her kid that my house is nasty? 847 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 3: Well, is it nasty? 848 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 2: I Amanda twenty four female. Have been friends with Roquel? 849 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 3: Yes? Yes, you have? 850 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, go on, Op, Roquel like that. It feels like 851 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 2: it's a sentence within itself. I am managed to four female. 852 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,439 Speaker 2: I have been friends with Roquel twenty five females since 853 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 2: middle school. We became inseparable in high school, and she 854 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 2: was the closest person to me I had ever met, 855 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 2: even when we drifted apart after she graduated early and 856 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,399 Speaker 2: moved away with her husband r J twenty eight male 857 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 2: active duty military at the time, I always hoped we'd reconnect. 858 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from Tiny Trust sixty three. 859 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 2: And if you want to see old stories our slash Okay 860 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 2: story time sub reddit. I'm Riley, I'm Keon, and we're 861 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 2: here to give good advice. Goofully and that's it. We 862 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 2: don't have any answers. I have a couple, And if 863 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 2: you want to submend anything in our videos, just put 864 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 2: in the comments where read it. I don't even care anymore. 865 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 2: As Op says to Roquel, when she came back with 866 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 2: her baby, Max, we picked right back up where we 867 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 2: left off. I love Max like he was my own. 868 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 2: He gave me the nickname Mimi. I have a me me. 869 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 3: I also have a MEMI no way, Well that's what 870 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 3: I call my dog, so maybe not the same. 871 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 2: Well, she's my mem I love me me. That kid 872 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 2: was and still is incredibly important to me. Backstory. About 873 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 2: five years ago, Raquel and r J had a falling 874 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 2: out with his parents and suddenly needed a place to stay. 875 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 2: I just bought my first home. It wasn't big, but 876 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 2: it had an extra room. I opened my door to 877 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 2: them immediately, no hesitation. It was me, my partner Matt, 878 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 2: and our one dog, two cats, and the Roquelles family. 879 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 2: It was cramped, but I didn't care. I wanted her 880 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 2: to feel safe. I wanted Max to feel stable. I 881 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 2: wanted to help because I love this family. They ended 882 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 2: up staying for roughly six months. 883 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 3: Dang, six months is crazy? Did they pay for some 884 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 3: of that? 885 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 2: They paid rent every month except the last one, when 886 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 2: they left with only a week's notice, because Roquel always 887 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 2: paid at the end of the month. She actually still owes, 888 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 2: but I didn't push it. I didn't want money to 889 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 2: ruin our friendship. RJ did damage one of my interior 890 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 2: doors during an argument of theirs. Huh, he punched a 891 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 2: whole straight through it, hau. I didn't scream erascualate until 892 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 2: the damage. I stood up in this moment and told 893 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,919 Speaker 2: him calmly but firmly to leave the house and come 894 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 2: back after he had cooled off. He got my face, 895 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 2: yelled that I had no right to put him out, 896 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 2: and said that he left. Raquel and Max were leaving 897 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 2: with them, and honestly was intimidating and really upsetting. They 898 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 2: eventually paid for the door, but only because I insisted 899 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,919 Speaker 2: after they had left. The argument happened around month three 900 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 2: of them living with me. They moved out for unrelated reasons. 901 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 2: Around month six, one week before Christmas, they moved out. 902 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 2: None of this, the stress, the notice, the unpaid rent 903 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,280 Speaker 2: was ever acknowledged. It was brushed off like nothing happened 904 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,280 Speaker 2: the first few months. Roquel came over maybe twice briefly. 905 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,879 Speaker 2: After that, she basically stopped coming entirely. But she still 906 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 2: wanted to hang out, just not at my house. She 907 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 2: always wanted to meet in places incredibly inconvenient for me. 908 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 2: She lives about twenty minutes for me. She wanted me 909 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 2: to meet her twenty minutes past her house. Which is 910 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 2: forty minutes for me. I literally had to drive past 911 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 2: her house just to meet her somewhere she chose, and 912 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 2: I did over and over because I loved her, because 913 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 2: I love Max, because I thought friendships were supposed to 914 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 2: be flexible when one person was struggling. I even used 915 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 2: my one hour work lunch just to drive to her 916 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 2: house sometimes just to see her and the kids. She 917 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 2: did not come to my house a single time during 918 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 2: that entire period. 919 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 4: Interesting, wonder why. 920 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 3: I'll be I also wonder, why why are we going 921 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,399 Speaker 3: on extra twenty minutes past her house? 922 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 2: You guy's got no other coffee shops near there, you know, 923 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 2: or in between? Yeah? That's yeah. And right around the 924 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 2: same time, my entire life changed in ways I was 925 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 2: not prepared for. Just two months after Ruckelle moved out, 926 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 2: everything in my home changed overnight when all three of 927 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 2: Matt's kids suddenly moved in with us full time. So 928 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 2: now nineteen females, sixteen male and fourteen female. But at 929 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 2: this time, it happened about four or five years ago, 930 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 2: when they were roughly fourteen and fifteen, eleven and eight. 931 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 2: For context, I was only twenty when this all hit 932 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 2: at once. Matt is thirty nine now, so he was 933 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 2: about thirty four turning thirty five that year. The kids 934 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 2: had been living with their mom in a studio apartment 935 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 2: for a year dang. Their mom was a heavy drinker 936 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 2: and the environment had become unstable. One day, Matt took 937 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 2: them for a fishing day, and when he brought them back, 938 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 2: their place was trashed, cluttered, and clearly being shared with 939 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 2: a new boyfriend. That was the last straw for him. 940 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 2: He told the kids to grab their things, get in 941 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,919 Speaker 2: the truck, and to come home with him. One drive 942 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 2: he told the truth that he and I were together. 943 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 2: He then called me and said, they know everything. We'll 944 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 2: be home in fifteen to ten minutes. That was my warning. 945 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,959 Speaker 2: Ten minutes, no preparation, no conversation, just three older kids 946 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 2: with trauma, confusion, anger, and fear showing up at my 947 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 2: home to live with us permanently. The older two were resistant. 948 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 2: His oldest daughter even asked him if he was with 949 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 2: me just to have a place to stay. She barely 950 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,879 Speaker 2: talked to me for a long time, and even now 951 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,280 Speaker 2: we're still working on making the living situation comfortable, especially 952 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,760 Speaker 2: because she and I are only about four years apart. 953 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 2: And since her home is only a two bedroom, two bath, 954 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 2: all three kids had to share a bedroom. At first, 955 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 2: not a deal, but sharing a motel room for a 956 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 2: year wasn't the new for them. For me, though, it 957 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 2: was overwhelming. I never had kids on my own, and 958 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 2: now suddenly my home was filled with two teenagers and 959 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 2: a young child, all adjusting to trauma, losing their old life, 960 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 2: and navigating their parents' final split. I walked on eleg 961 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,320 Speaker 2: shows trying to not upset anyone. I prioritize their needs 962 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 2: over mind. I bought what they needed they were unprepared, 963 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 2: and Matt worked odd hours, leaving me to figure out 964 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 2: the day to day dynamics alone. Oh that's so tough. Yeah, 965 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 2: that makes sense why Rockquele probably didn't want to come over. 966 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be very, very very stressful, man, especially 967 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 3: with all that going on. Yeah, I can see why. 968 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 3: I mean, dang, Opie, you got a lot on your plate. 969 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 3: M from going to Like, man, I have to deal 970 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 3: with these roommates, then they move out, and then now 971 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 3: I have to deal with a full on family at twenty. 972 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 2: That's tough. I get. Yeah, that still seems stuff. 973 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 3: Ope, you need like a vacation just for you yourself, 974 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 3: and that's it. 975 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, kel knew the situation, but whenever I try to 976 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,279 Speaker 2: open up, she would say things like it was the 977 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 2: position I put myself in, or that I needed to 978 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 2: make the decisions that were fair to me. Made me 979 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 2: feel judged, so I stopped confiding in her completely. So 980 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 2: the conflict with her didn't happen in a vacuum. It 981 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,359 Speaker 2: happened while my life was exploding into responsibilities I wasn't 982 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 2: prepared for, and while I was emotionally drowning. I am 983 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 2: not going to pretend I was on top of everything, 984 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 2: because I wasn't. I struggled badly. I have lamin at 985 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,839 Speaker 2: floors and I didn't know how to properly maintain them. 986 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 2: The kids weren't cleaning up after themselves. Sometimes their pets 987 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 2: had accidents, and the kids would ignore them until I 988 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 2: yelled and got on to them to clean it up. 989 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 2: There were days where depression just swallowed me, and I 990 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 2: would literally lock myself in my room and shut the 991 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,280 Speaker 2: world out, and the house showed it. It was messy, 992 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 2: sometimes gross, clutter, pat message dishes, not dangerous, but not great. 993 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 2: I'm not proud of it. I'm ashamed of that. Period 994 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,359 Speaker 2: in my life. But it was temporary and I've worked 995 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 2: so hard since then to turn my home back into 996 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,360 Speaker 2: a home. And it is a home now, a good one, clean, functional, 997 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 2: lived in but not chaotic. Kel never saw that. She 998 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 2: never asked, she never offered help. She never even asked 999 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 2: if I was okay. Oh what a friend. 1000 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,839 Speaker 3: What I remember when you were there for her? 1001 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:42,320 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I remember. Oh that's so tough, dude. 1002 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 2: You know I got a friend. Let me tell you. 1003 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,720 Speaker 2: I got a friend that helped me out a pretty 1004 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,879 Speaker 2: rough time in my life. Yeah, okay, he was there 1005 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 2: for me. Okay, And now those friends going through a 1006 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 2: hard time, and guess what. 1007 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 3: You're there for him? 1008 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 2: I am, And I'm making sure he's all right. 1009 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 3: That's what friends are for. 1010 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 2: Yes, And this is unaccepted. I'm calling him, making sure 1011 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 2: he's doing all right, making sure everything seems square. And 1012 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 2: this just infuriates me. Not even asking if they're okay. 1013 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 3: No, not even yeah, not even like the littlest things 1014 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 3: of little thing's gonna add up to be big things. 1015 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 3: But the fact that she'll judge you or like co 1016 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 3: It's like you did this to yourself. That's your fault. 1017 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,439 Speaker 2: I'm gonna reach out to him right now. 1018 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's doing it. 1019 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 2: There, I just did it. Boom, Who was that Rex? 1020 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 4: Oh? 1021 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:29,360 Speaker 3: It was okay. 1022 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 4: He's fine. 1023 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,839 Speaker 2: He's always going through girl trouble. That's really what it is. 1024 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 2: He's fine. He literally just needs to move out of 1025 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 2: freaking Jefferson City. If you ever go to Jefferson City, 1026 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 2: go to the Maddox during the weekend and ask for Rex. 1027 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,400 Speaker 3: Tell him, you know me, give him a kiss on 1028 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 3: his forehead. 1029 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,839 Speaker 2: You will get the biggest look on his face. He'll 1030 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,280 Speaker 2: be like, no really anyways, which is why what happened 1031 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 2: next broke my heart. Oh no, no. 1032 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 3: That's not a good sentence to segue into something. 1033 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 2: One day, Max, about five or six years old, was 1034 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,319 Speaker 2: in the car with me while Rokel ran inside the store. 1035 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 2: He said, completely innocently me, Me, I miss you, and 1036 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 2: I want to come over more, but Mama won't let 1037 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 2: me because she says your house is nasty. When's the 1038 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 2: last time he'd been in my house? Max? Huh Jeffs City, Tennessee, 1039 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 2: not Misseruri. When was the last time he've been in 1040 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:16,839 Speaker 2: my house? Max? Huh? 1041 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 3: Sorry, Maxy, when was I given a chance to show 1042 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 3: you that it's not nasty. 1043 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 2: He wasn't tattling, he wasn't being mean. He was just 1044 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 2: telling me how he felt. I didn't let him see 1045 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 2: me react. I told him I missed him too, that 1046 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 2: he was always welcome, that adults sometimes make choices they 1047 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 2: think are best for kids, but inside it gutted me. 1048 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,760 Speaker 2: Arkel never said one word to me about my house, 1049 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 2: never asked what was going on, never tried to talk 1050 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 2: to me about my mental health, never said, hey, is 1051 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 2: everything okay? I'm noticing x y Z. Probably because she 1052 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 2: was going through hard time and she just didn't want 1053 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 2: to hear another hard time honestly. 1054 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, but even then, what Opie did for. 1055 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 2: Raquelot hesitating, just letting him in. 1056 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, after everything that happened. 1057 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 2: Anyways, Hey, John og host here, we're gonna get back 1058 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 2: to this episode, but a quick three a break of 1059 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 2: ads from a sponsor's keeping the show alive. She just 1060 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 2: judged me behind my back. She weaponized it. She used 1061 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 2: it to keep Max away from me, without ever giving 1062 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 2: me the chance to defend myself, explain, or even clean 1063 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 2: up before she visited, because she simply chose not to 1064 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 2: visit at all. 1065 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,280 Speaker 3: It's not your friend, I get it not your friend. 1066 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 2: After hearing that, I quietly pulled back. I stopped driving 1067 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,279 Speaker 2: forty minutes out of my way to meet her. I 1068 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 2: stopped making myself available at her convenience while she gives 1069 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 2: zero effort at mind. Stop rearranging my life to fit hers. 1070 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 2: When she would ask to hang out, I'd say, I'm 1071 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 2: busy working all my house today, but you're welcome to 1072 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 2: come over. She'd always say something like maybe if I 1073 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:40,840 Speaker 2: have time. Then she'd cancel every single time. Eventually she 1074 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 2: stopped asking altogether, and she stopped responding. We haven't spoken 1075 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 2: in like six to eight months at all. That part 1076 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 2: hurts me the most. I didn't just lose her. I 1077 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 2: lost Max, a kid who genuinely loved me, who I 1078 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 2: deeply loved. Now I'm torn. I've never told her why 1079 00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 2: I'm pulled away. For all I know, she has no 1080 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 2: idea that I know what she had said. We got 1081 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,320 Speaker 2: a little bit left here, keon. 1082 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 3: Even if you did a message her and be like, hey, 1083 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 3: you know the house is clean, or like you know 1084 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 3: I'm not talking to you because you know Max told 1085 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 3: me this, or what you think. I don't think she 1086 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 3: would care, which sucks, which makes even worse. But would 1087 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,359 Speaker 3: it make would he give you the closure? Ope? I 1088 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 3: hope so, or maybe you don't even need to message her. 1089 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 3: But you love that kid, You took care of her, 1090 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:25,799 Speaker 3: You were a good friend to her. She's not giving 1091 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,720 Speaker 3: you that in return. Yeah, I don't know. That's crazy 1092 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,840 Speaker 3: that like, yeah, people go through hardships and everything like 1093 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,880 Speaker 3: that and it, you know, sometimes people don't want to 1094 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 3: hear about it. But the fact that she didn't even 1095 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 3: give you a chance and that sucks, and you helped 1096 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,240 Speaker 3: her out through thick and thin, and she still doesn't 1097 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 3: like not even asking you. How are things? How are you? 1098 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 3: How is life? 1099 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,400 Speaker 2: It's rough, dude. My mom went through this. She had 1100 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,839 Speaker 2: a friend that she would pay to like babysit us 1101 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,759 Speaker 2: and stuff, and then she slowly realized, like when she 1102 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,360 Speaker 2: stopped asking her to babysit and like hang out to 1103 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 2: the side, she'd always just come for the money. 1104 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,840 Speaker 3: Oh it was like, look the money involved. 1105 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like, oh, we see now when I. 1106 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 3: Get something out of it, though, Yeah, that makes sense. 1107 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,880 Speaker 2: He's weird, but I don't know. I know I'd like 1108 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 2: to always see the other side of it too, like mine, 1109 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 2: did you stop? 1110 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 4: What's going on money. 1111 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 2: Part of me feels guilty for not just confronting her 1112 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,239 Speaker 2: and telling her how much that comment hurt. Part of 1113 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 2: me feels like she abandoned me first emotionally, physically, ann 1114 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 2: as a friend. Part of me wonders if distancing myself 1115 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 2: was a mature thing or the petty thing. Part of 1116 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 2: me desperately misses Max and wants to reach out, and 1117 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 2: part of me feels like Raquel clearly didn't value me 1118 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,839 Speaker 2: enough to put even the smallest effort so reddit, Am 1119 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 2: I the a hole for distancing myself after hearing what 1120 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,279 Speaker 2: she said? Am I the able for only inviting her 1121 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,320 Speaker 2: to my home after that and refusing to keep driving 1122 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,399 Speaker 2: to eat her? Should I tell her the truth? Should 1123 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 2: I leave it alone? Except that friendship is probably over? 1124 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 2: I'm genuinely torn about it. I don't know if I'm 1125 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,440 Speaker 2: being unfair, petty heard, or finally setting a boundary I 1126 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 2: should have said a long time ago. I just want 1127 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,759 Speaker 2: to be honest outside perspectives, Guys, what do you think 1128 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 2: Kimberly find says? If you're the girl needs helping, give 1129 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,240 Speaker 2: her thick not thin. This makes me feel like Opie 1130 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,440 Speaker 2: was being judged by Roquel. Just like when Opie said 1131 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,359 Speaker 2: that what she felt, yeah, being judged. Yeah, I mean 1132 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 2: she she opened didn't She opened up to her earlier, 1133 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 2: didn't she? 1134 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 3: She did, she tried to at least, but Roquel was said, nah, 1135 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:16,960 Speaker 3: you did that. But also I think Opie is one 1136 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 3: of our own. 1137 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,320 Speaker 2: She is this is our okay story Tom, Yeah, yeah. 1138 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,479 Speaker 3: OPI I mean I said it earlier. Do what's best 1139 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,920 Speaker 3: for you. And if you think distancing yourself, and it 1140 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 3: does suck for Max, but at this point in your life, 1141 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 3: you just got to do what's best for you. Yeah, 1142 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 3: you gotta live your life. You got to make sure 1143 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 3: you know, but you also need a support system. You 1144 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 3: need friends, You need that social circle that whatever gives you, 1145 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,320 Speaker 3: you know, happiness or enjoyment. 1146 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and it's going to be tough to find that. 1147 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and especially in this type of person who doesn't 1148 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:46,840 Speaker 3: give you any of that. 1149 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 2: A real friend goes halfway, meet you halfway, or meet 1150 00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 2: you where you are when you need it. 1151 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:52,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1152 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,439 Speaker 2: And dude, I have seen people they're just stringing people 1153 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 2: around long. They're not actually friends. They just want them 1154 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 2: there because ifits them in some way, shape or form, it's. 1155 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 3: The it's the crab and the crabs in a bucket 1156 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:04,400 Speaker 3: kind of thing. 1157 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that or just I don't even know if it's 1158 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 2: that they're pulling one of them down. It's just like 1159 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,319 Speaker 2: you're there here watch my kid while I go get 1160 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 2: a coffee. 1161 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:13,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just oh man, it's weird. 1162 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 2: It's really weird. And the fact that like she didn't 1163 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 2: reach out or she genuinely misses you, says something. 1164 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 3: The fact that she tells this five year old kid, yeah, 1165 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 3: we don't go over there because it's disgusting, dude. 1166 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 2: My mom would say that kind of stuff though, But. 1167 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 3: I guarantee your mom would also give the person a 1168 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 3: chance to be like, Okay, the house is clean or 1169 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 3: like just the house clean, or is that person clean, 1170 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 3: or is you know, is it a safe is it 1171 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 3: a safe place to go? 1172 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1173 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,799 Speaker 3: I guarantee your mom would give him that chance. But 1174 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:38,879 Speaker 3: Raquela doesn't care. 1175 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,280 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that's that's true. Huh, that's seeing that story. 1176 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 2: Good luck, Opie. I think you know what you need 1177 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 2: to do do if you need, if you need to 1178 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:47,879 Speaker 2: find closure by telling her. 1179 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:49,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just saying that's how I was going 1180 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,879 Speaker 3: to finish it with that, because again, OPI do what's 1181 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,399 Speaker 3: best for you. But if you need to, like if 1182 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 3: that's gonna be looming over your head, or you need 1183 00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,719 Speaker 3: to get that last bit out or like hey, let 1184 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,440 Speaker 3: me talk to you in a person girl, or just 1185 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 3: like get it, get that text out, do it. Yeah, 1186 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 3: but if you already know like this friendship is over 1187 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 3: or like there's not, there's no there's no reason to 1188 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:08,840 Speaker 3: put that energy into it. Do what you gotta do 1189 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:09,920 Speaker 3: that gives you that closure. 1190 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. If you love us, make sure to subscribe. 1191 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,840 Speaker 3: We love you and see you tomorrow, See you tomorrow. 1192 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:18,279 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, how do we do this? But 1193 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 3: and see you tomorrow,