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Speaker 2: Previously on Crook County.

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Speaker 1: I got recruited into the mob when I was seventeen

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Speaker 1: years old.

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Speaker 2: After two years in the outfit, Kenny was on his

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Speaker 2: way up.

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Speaker 1: He trusted me because I instilled money. I just did

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Speaker 1: my job. It's hard to find an honest guy in

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Speaker 1: the fucking outfit.

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Speaker 2: He got a new boss.

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Speaker 1: My crew boss was jack Jack Jackie Lama's eriksson.

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Speaker 2: He ran the whorehouses, and Kenny got a new job

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Speaker 2: working the door at a brothel.

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Speaker 1: A guy would come in, I'd introduce him to all

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Speaker 1: the girls by name. They would negotiate a deal. She

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Speaker 1: would hand me path the cake and then she would

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Speaker 1: be on her way.

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Speaker 2: And then one night he met a girl I.

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Speaker 1: Think I was nineteen. I met her, she was twenty,

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Speaker 1: saw her sitting at the end of the bar. I

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Speaker 1: fell in love with her pretty quick.

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Speaker 3: That pretty little redhead at the bar was my mother.

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Speaker 3: My name is Kyle Tequila. Welcome to Crook County.

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Speaker 5: Yea.

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Speaker 6: We would have to take bus every once in a while,

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Speaker 6: just so Cook County Cops, could, you know, show that

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Speaker 6: they're making some progress here.

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Speaker 1: So those are all arranged bus, Okay, Ken's your turn now, man.

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Speaker 1: When half the motherfuckers were running their own horse on

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Speaker 1: the side out of our fucking.

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Speaker 3: Clubs, episode four, Keeper of a House of Prostitution.

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Speaker 2: Coming from Paramount Pictures. And he's very good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the best.

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Speaker 2: Amen, he's great. He's the king out there.

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Speaker 1: John Travolta in Saturday Night Fever.

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Speaker 3: I'm watching the trailer to the nineteen seventy seven box

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Speaker 3: office monster Saturday Night Fever. Believe it or not, I've

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Speaker 3: actually never seen this movie, which obviously is a huge

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Speaker 3: mistake because it looks hilarious.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I could dance.

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Speaker 1: To you, but you know, You're not a dream girl and.

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Speaker 3: Nothing ye a twenty three year old unknown actor named

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Speaker 3: John Travolta with his trademark Cleft Chin, strutting around Brooklyn

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Speaker 3: and Silk and Polyester, dancing up a storm every night

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Speaker 3: to what has become the second highest selling soundtrack of

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Speaker 3: all time, just behind the Bodyguard soundtrack.

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Speaker 2: Fuck that is a good song? Oh and how wild

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Speaker 2: is this?

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Speaker 3: The Beg's didn't even write these cultural defining songs until

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Speaker 3: after the movie was filmed because the producers couldn't license

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Speaker 3: the original music, so they scrambled and begged the Begees

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Speaker 3: to write a few songs on spec, which they didn't

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Speaker 3: even want to do because they were in the middle.

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Speaker 2: Of recording their album in some studio in France.

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Speaker 3: So they basically threw together four songs in a weekend

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Speaker 3: to get it over with those four songs, night Fever,

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Speaker 3: if I can't have you more than a woman, and

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Speaker 3: of course stay alive. Oh if that shit don't make

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Speaker 3: you want to get up and dance and I can't

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Speaker 3: help you, I can help you, brother.

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Speaker 2: Anyway.

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Speaker 3: The reason I'm even going down this rabbit hole in

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Speaker 3: the first place is because apparently Saturday night Fever might

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Speaker 3: as well be a documentary of my parents' relationship in

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Speaker 3: their first few years.

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Speaker 2: I'll let my mom explain this.

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Speaker 7: One one of our songs would come on, we run

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Speaker 7: out to the dance floor because we're so excited because

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Speaker 7: we can dance so good together, or like John Travolta.

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Speaker 5: And I was gonna say, that was just what I

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Speaker 5: was thinking. I'm like, believe me. It was Saturday Night Fever.

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Speaker 7: It was those what practice and then they would go

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Speaker 7: on the dance floor and people would just like and

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Speaker 7: people separate, move away and watch us dance.

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Speaker 5: That's how it was.

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Speaker 7: People weren't even throw money at us at one time

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Speaker 7: on the floor, but I think that.

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Speaker 5: Was about they wanted you to take your clothes behind too.

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Speaker 3: That other voice is my mom's childhood friend Kathy, who

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Speaker 3: was with my mom a lot during those disco days.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, so we continued to do that like two, three,

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Speaker 7: maybe even four times a week, and it was just fun,

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Speaker 8: Were you twenty, you were sneaking in, you were enuraged.

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Speaker 7: Okay, I still got served.

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Speaker 8: Okay, well, absolutely well because they always left the pretty girls.

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Speaker 8: And the way that I actually know Holly is I knew.

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Speaker 5: Your grandma before I knew Hollie. And I will tell

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Speaker 5: you this.

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Speaker 8: Your mother used to walk in with five dollars in

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Speaker 8: her pocket and she'd leave with five dollars.

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Speaker 1: In her past.

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Speaker 7: She never hit something, never, so.

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Speaker 5: She never had to do anything.

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Speaker 8: And one of the time when we were out, and

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Speaker 8: I have no idea why, but your father came up

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Speaker 8: and asked me to dance so and he was quite

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Speaker 8: the dancer.

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Speaker 5: We had seen him on the floor.

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Speaker 8: We had all commented, all three of us, and the

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Speaker 8: three of us meaning your grandma.

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Speaker 5: So when we came off the dance floor, I said,

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Speaker 5: come with me. I have someone i'd like you to meet.

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Speaker 8: And he's like really, And I said, Holly, this is Ken.

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Speaker 5: This is how got dance your socks off.

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Speaker 8: Basically, maybe this won't be exact words, and I pushed

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Speaker 8: her off her barstool.

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Speaker 5: And as they say, the rest is history.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing.

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Speaker 5: So it's all your fault, Yes it is.

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Speaker 2: Let's see how my dad remembers it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was nineteen years old, was over at fucking

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Speaker 1: a disco called some other place. So I was sitting

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Speaker 1: at the bar. She was sitting at the end of

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Speaker 1: the bar, with her mother, of course, and I saw

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Speaker 1: her and I said, whoa nice little run up there,

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Speaker 1: I dug her, and I walked up to her just

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Speaker 1: started talking, and that's how we met. That's simple in

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Speaker 1: a bar, but that's how we met. Back then. We

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Speaker 1: didn't meet online like everybody meets online now. You actually

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Speaker 1: had to go out and do something back in my day,

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Speaker 1: I mean you actually had to give it some effort.

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Speaker 1: You actually had to walk and sit out and talk

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Speaker 1: to somebody looking in their eyesn't talk to him, you know,

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Speaker 1: all right?

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Speaker 2: Close enough? What happened next?

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Speaker 7: You call me almost like the next day and asked

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Speaker 7: me out on a date. It took me about three

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Speaker 7: months though, to actually really really like the guy, because

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Speaker 7: that summer when I met Ken, I was also dating

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Speaker 7: this other guy from the complex I was living in

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Speaker 7: the guy that I was dating before I met Ken,

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Speaker 7: and somebody else. So it was like an awesome summer

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Speaker 7: for me.

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Speaker 1: We don't know who my real father is.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, okay, let's wrap this up please.

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Speaker 7: He lived with some guys in an apartment. We would

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Speaker 7: go back to the apartment and there'd be people all

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Speaker 7: very romantic, but one night nobody was there and it

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Speaker 7: was just like he lit all these candles and he

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Speaker 7: had Pink Floyd playing on the record player.

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Speaker 5: Back in the day, which every time he had song

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Speaker 5: comes in here.

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Speaker 7: As I remember, he was wearing cutoff little jean shorts

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Speaker 7: and his wife beater tank top, and he had really

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Speaker 7: nice legs and he had long curly haired like to

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Speaker 7: his shoulders, and I don't know, he just looked really

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Speaker 7: sexy that night. And that's that's the night. After six months,

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Speaker 7: he proposed to me. And he was nineteen when I

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Speaker 7: was twenty, And of course I said yes, because I

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Speaker 7: guess when I fall in love, I fall really deep.

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Speaker 3: Even though Ken had put a ring on her finger,

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Speaker 3: they basically acted like kids who were dating. She was

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Speaker 3: still living at home with her mom. Ken had his

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Speaker 3: own apartment. They had their own separate lives and only

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Speaker 3: spent a few days a week together. Eventually, Holly started

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Speaker 3: hearing things from friends who had seen Ken out at

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Speaker 3: bars talking to other women, or rumors of huge parties

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Speaker 7: Ken was always such a schmoozer. He was always flirting,

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Speaker 7: you know, He was a good looking guy, charismatic like

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Speaker 7: you say, and he just attracted women. And I was

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Speaker 7: a very jealous person and to this day, and that

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Speaker 7: was not good for me to have a guy like

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Speaker 7: I've never cheated, and you blah blah blah, you know,

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Speaker 7: and I just never believed him.

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Speaker 2: I asked my dad about this.

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Speaker 1: He said, you were quite the shooze there. It was

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Speaker 1: quite the schmooz there. Yes, I was running her horroruse.

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Speaker 1: I was running a hohror house that was moving with

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Speaker 1: a hoards all day long. I was banging six at

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Speaker 1: a time, for Christ's sake. But I liked your mom though.

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Speaker 1: I liked your mom, but she wasn't. She wasn't. I

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Speaker 1: had to look at her as a whore. I looked

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Speaker 1: it's a totally different thing, totally different, totally different. I'm

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Speaker 1: running hohhouses. I'm not running, but I'm a dormann. I

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Speaker 1: ended up runing them later, you know, eighteen, nineteen, twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: you know, up till twenty eight, you know. So but

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Speaker 1: these girls, man, these these I mean, you know, we're

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Speaker 1: talking lost hardcore souls, you know, just lost someone, angels,

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Speaker 1: you know, just lost angels, you know, just lost and

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Speaker 1: drug addicted.

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Speaker 3: During the years I filmed these conversations with my dad,

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Speaker 3: we spent hours and hours talking about all the sensational

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Speaker 3: mafia bullshit you would come to expect in a story

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Speaker 3: like this. But when he remembers the girls that worked

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Speaker 3: in the club, there's an immediate shift in his demeanor.

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Speaker 3: A calm washes over him as he smiles in memory

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Speaker 3: and begins diving into dozens of stories from his ten

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Speaker 3: years as a doorman and eventually manager of the clubs.

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Speaker 3: Many of these stories I will feature in later episodes

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Speaker 3: as they relate to the larger overall story. But first

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Speaker 3: I need to say what's on my mind. None of

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Speaker 3: this has been an easy pill to swallow for me.

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Speaker 3: The drugs and the murders make this whole thing bad enough,

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Speaker 3: But where I get the real pit in my stomach

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Speaker 3: is hearing him talk about his time in the clubs

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Speaker 3: with these girls, especially knowing my mom was very much

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Speaker 3: in the picture during these years. And as hard as

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Speaker 3: that is to digest, the fact is this is not

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Speaker 2: It's Kenny's story.

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Speaker 3: And I have a responsibility to let him tell it

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Speaker 3: the way he wants to tell it, And right now

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Speaker 3: he wants to talk about these girls.

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Speaker 2: So that's what we're going to do. First up, Cindy.

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Speaker 1: She was our local dominatrix. She was our club dominatrix.

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Speaker 1: She had all the gear, all the leather, all the outfits,

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Speaker 1: But they were strictly business man, no drugs, no bullshit,

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Speaker 1: Because she looked like Marilyn Monroe. That's what we call it.

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Speaker 3: They are, and I can't help but notice that, in

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Speaker 1: It was just amazing. It was really an experience for me.

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Speaker 3: For Kenny, who never finished high school, this club was

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Speaker 3: with a slightly different core curriculum underworld economics, the business

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Speaker 3: I want to be clear here, in no way do

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Speaker 3: I condone my father's infidelities to my mother as acceptable

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Speaker 3: he must have known would fail miserably. Why would he

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Speaker 1: When I wasn't working at the clubs, When I wasn't

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Speaker 1: especially when I was with your mother. Yeah, I could

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Speaker 1: do that. I just it wasn't a lifestyle for me.

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Speaker 1: It was life of wor those grease balls. It was

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Speaker 1: a fucking lifestyle. That's the style they wanted to live.

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Speaker 1: They wanted to live that way. I did not. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I can make that any fucking clearer.

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Speaker 1: I did not want to be them, all right, that

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Speaker 3: I asked a psychologist about this, and she broke it

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Speaker 3: down to what she calls a sense of normalcy. His

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Speaker 3: space of love and stability that exists outside of the

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Speaker 3: doing so, he was laying the foundation that would eventually

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Speaker 3: fragment his life into two completely separate halves, both mentally

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Speaker 3: and physically. But as fascinating as all that sounds, the

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Speaker 3: reality is much easier said than done.

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Speaker 7: He realized, at nineteen years old, what am I doing

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Speaker 7: being engaged? And I'm twenty. He's only nineteen, and it

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Speaker 7: maybe a year into the engagement he called it off.

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Speaker 1: Bill Curtis with Chicago's None for one News General two

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Speaker 9: In Chicago, the connection between organized crime and prostitution was

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Speaker 9: the target of government sting. More from Ndpotter, the targets

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Speaker 9: involved were clubs and bars such as these, where officials

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Speaker 9: say sex was openly for sale, but the transactions were

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Speaker 6: We would have to take bus every once in a while,

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Speaker 6: just so Cook County cops could, you know, show that

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Speaker 6: they're making some progress here, okay, when half the motherfuckers

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Speaker 2: The side out of our fucking clubs.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, that's another fucking story.

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Speaker 2: Well that is a story I would love to hear.

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Speaker 3: Well, we've been going for a while now and he's

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Speaker 3: getting a little hungry, so we decided to take a drive.

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Speaker 3: Of course, he starts talking in the car, so I

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Speaker 1: So you know, these motherfuckers were so crooked, and we

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Speaker 1: they had to show numbers, so somebody had to catch

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Speaker 1: a bust every once in a while, all right, So

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Speaker 1: I caught two busts. If you dig deep enough and

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Speaker 1: it's there, the only thing you'll really see on me

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Speaker 1: is two arrests early eighties for the keeper of house

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Speaker 1: That's all that's gonna pop on me. So you know,

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Speaker 1: We'll take the bust and give us a call afterwards

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Speaker 1: you know, a little party, everybody'd be laughing, having a

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Speaker 1: But here I am kind young, not thinking it's as

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Speaker 1: because I would use my name, your real name, my

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Speaker 1: but I would use my real name while I'm hearing

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Speaker 1: all the girls, you know, using her club names.

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Speaker 2: And so now that shit's on your record forever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so no, it's not my fucking record, and I

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Speaker 1: can't shake any But at this point, really it doesn't

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Speaker 2: Not many people have keeper of a house of constitution,

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Speaker 3: Keeper of a house of prostitution, not seeing any greeting

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Speaker 3: If only that was as bad as it got for Kenny,

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Speaker 3: maybe things would be different for all of us. But

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Speaker 3: unfortunately that's where this fairy tale ends. With several years

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Speaker 3: The club became his world, and he made friends with

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Speaker 1: You know, it was like an office, you know, hanging

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Speaker 1: just you know, there's not there's still human beings. They

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Speaker 2: There was Billy the bartender, the.

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Speaker 1: Old, thick Southern accent. Cowboy, had the old belt, the

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Speaker 1: old belt, buckle, jeans, cowboy boots, lanky, tall, lanky and muscular,

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Speaker 1: a guy you do not want to fuck with. I

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Speaker 1: This guy worried me because those tall, lanky ones. Boy,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of time before that fist hits you.

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Speaker 3: Sam, the younger brother of Ken's crew boss Jack Erickson

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Speaker 1: A good guy, you know, I just he didn't belong

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Speaker 2: Jack's brother and Danny in a low level doorman.

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Speaker 1: Dan was just a fat guy, loved to eat. Typical

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Speaker 1: just something like that. We were leaving each other. So

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Speaker 1: he stay at talk, you know, chat, just like any job,

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Speaker 1: a job. You know, chat it up, a little bit,

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Speaker 3: One night, while Danny was working the door, a gunman

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Speaker 3: broke in and robbed the cash box. Everybody was, of

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Speaker 1: Oh fuck, he did him as somebody. I can't remember

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Speaker 1: who the other person was. Why Danny was working. He

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Speaker 2: Why do you think Dan wanted to rob this place?

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Speaker 1: Because they were all greedy bastards. Man, Listen, I was

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Speaker 1: taught by Jack pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered, and

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Speaker 1: that stuck with me, meaning, if you're making a living,

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Speaker 1: be thankful for what you got, because you're gonna get slaughtered.

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Speaker 1: All these guys wanted more, more broads, more dope, more

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Speaker 1: they wanted more, more, more and more and more. Very

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Speaker 1: very ambitious people. But in our business, pigs get fat,

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Speaker 1: hogs get slaughtered, and he got slaughtered.

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Speaker 3: Danny had to go, and the powers that be felt

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Speaker 3: this was the perfect opportunity to see what young Kenny

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Speaker 1: I was there for the setup on the whack for Danny,

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Speaker 1: all right. I think we after he shift one night,

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Speaker 1: and you know, we're all friends. He got in the

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get whacked by your buddy type of thing,

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Speaker 1: you know. So anyway we got him. I got him,

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Speaker 1: and it was you know when when the guy's trust,

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Speaker 1: he was easy to get in the car. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to Denny's, have some breakfast boat next to you know,

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Speaker 1: he's getting his ass kicked, all right. And got him

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Speaker 1: in the car and drove him to uh one of

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Speaker 1: the chop shops and dropped him off there, and whatever

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Speaker 1: I did with him from there, I don't know. That

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Speaker 1: was the only time I ever had any emotion in

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Speaker 1: any hits, because everybody I hit was a fucking animal,

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Speaker 1: a degenerate psychopath sadistic narcissist that didn't We needed to

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Speaker 1: get rid of that seed. That seed is not good

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Speaker 1: for earth. That seed needed to be destroyed. That's how

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Speaker 1: bad these people were. So I never had any remorse.

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Speaker 1: The remorse I have now is that it's not my place.

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Speaker 1: It's not my place.

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Speaker 10: It's not my place. That's what God does. That's not

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Speaker 10: what Ken does. That's God's job. It's not my job.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my head is spinning.

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Speaker 3: I don't know who this man is, and it's now

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Speaker 3: obvious that I never did.

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Speaker 2: But I want to know. I need to know.

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Speaker 5: Shut that shut up.

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Speaker 2: Next week on Crook County.

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Speaker 9: You could see why he could be an enforcer. I'm blind, rage,

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Speaker 9: out of control, violent person.

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Speaker 2: He was a freaking crazy man.

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Speaker 3: Let's Crook County is a production of iHeart Podcasts and

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Speaker 3: Tenderfoot TV in association with Common Enemy. All episodes are written, produced,

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Speaker 3: and hosted by me Kyle Tequila. Executive producers are Donald

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Speaker 3: Albright and Payne Lindsay. Original score by Makeup and Vanity Set.

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Speaker 3: Main title song is called Crush by the band Starry Eyes.

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Speaker 3: End credit song is called No Show, also by the

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Speaker 3: band Starry Eyes.

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Speaker 2: Sound mix by Cooper Skinner.

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Speaker 3: Thank you to Orrin Rosenbaum and the excellent team at

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Speaker 3: UTA for their support and to my fearless attorney, Wendy

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening. The story continues next week. Awesome, that's

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Speaker 2: a Joe.

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Speaker 1: Set five.

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Speaker 2: I Watch show.

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