1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: The volume, What is going on everybody? John middlecop three 2 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: and now podcasts. How are we doing? Hopefully everyone's doing well. 3 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: If you listen to the podcast last night, I said 4 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: there was gonna be a mailbag in the second half 5 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,159 Speaker 1: of it. I don't know what happened. Technology screwed me. 6 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: Not my fault. I'm gonna point the finger at my 7 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: computer right now. Somehow it didn't get saved when I 8 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: transported the file. I didn't know it until I got 9 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: a text message like two in the morning, actually earlier 10 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: in that because my guy Adam, who's on the audio, 11 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: is in DC and he's up at the cracking I 12 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: mean he's up at like pulling grudin hours. So I 13 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: didn't see that text till like six in the morning 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: my time, and it was too late. But it is 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: a video version, so you can find it on the 16 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: YouTube page. Make sure you subscribe, Oh, leave a comment 17 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: like the video. You guys know the drill. But today 18 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: we'll just be a big mail bag at John Middlecoff. 19 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: At John Middlecoff is the Instagram talking a lot of 20 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: football talking anything that you hit me with. And we're 21 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: gonna do about an hour long podcast to just taking questions, 22 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: interacting with the people. This is the people show, this 23 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: Instagram DM show. Actually that's really what it is. So 24 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: if you guys listen on Collins Feed, make sure you 25 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: subscribe to three and out just so you never miss 26 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: a thing, because you never know. We're gonna have podcasts, 27 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: which is literally every day, and let's dive right in. 28 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm going insane. People keep saying Jordan 29 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: Love makes poor decisions. Since Week ten of twenty twenty three, 30 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: he has fifty six touchdowns and sixteen interceptions as a 31 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: nineties football guy who grew up watching far don't you 32 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: find that criticism laughable? I and T's have been made 33 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: famous by the internet, who cares throw touchdowns and win games? Well, 34 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: I agree, I mean those numbers are better than if 35 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: you would have said what I don't even know who 36 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: had to put in context. But I don't think I 37 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: would have guessed his ratio is better than thirteen or 38 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: three to one, right, because what's sixteen times two is 39 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: thirty two is forty eight. So he has a better 40 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: interception touchdown ratio since he really started playing. Well, I mean, 41 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: I do think it's fair to start middle delate of 42 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: that season so you're cooking the books a little bit. 43 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: But you could argue early on in twenty twenty three 44 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: when he wasn't playing well, if I remember correctly, it 45 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: was before the bye, because I remember Gudikins that year 46 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: was like the bye must have been around like game 47 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: six or seven, because he's like, you know, he's got 48 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: about ten games left. We're gonna have to make a 49 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: tough decision this offseason. It's like, damn, But they were 50 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: kind of right because the contract situation and they've won 51 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: a lot of games with them. I think it's more 52 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: and I said this about bo Nix and him. Obviously 53 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: he's more accomplished than bo Nicks and he's won a 54 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: playoff game. It's the trust factor that the head coach, 55 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: who also happens to be the play caller, has in 56 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: the player. So I think it's more that. And listen, 57 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: I'm a Jordan love fan. I mean, he's my type 58 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 1: player with the traits, but the difference of like far 59 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: in the nineties that there was a little more wow 60 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: and pizzazz but behind his game, and maybe it's in 61 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: defense of Jordan what he's being asked and coach to do. 62 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: It's kind of forced him to be a little robotic, 63 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: But I do believe there is more. I don't know, 64 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: explosive playmaking in there, because like you said, he is 65 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: producing and the teams, I don't want to say in 66 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: a rut, but they definitely are. They have a lot 67 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: more than is being shown now. We saw early in 68 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: the season and when they're on they're really, really good. 69 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: But I'm still bullish on the Packers mail back question 70 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: that's from Burke, huge Ravens fan rough here. Do you 71 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: think there is any shot we turn this around when 72 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: Lamar and crew are healthier and make a second half 73 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: run our schedule lighting's up, but not sure if we 74 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: have Dug too big a bl and if you don't 75 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: make the playoffs? Is it time to part ways with 76 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: John Harbaugh? Let's start with the latter part of that question. 77 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: Not because I was thinking about this and John Harball 78 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: will come up in this next question. Uh, I think 79 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: if you're gonna replace and I said this last year 80 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: about Tomlin. You you know when the Eagles fired Andy Reid. 81 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: This is the only situation I've had intimate knowledge because 82 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: I was there and then I actually once Chip came 83 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: in a couple months later, I was gone, but I 84 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: saw it, and they're like, we're gonna fire Andy Reid. 85 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: But who'd they go after. They went after Bill O'Brien 86 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: who was at Penn State and declined he'd only been 87 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: there a year, and they went after Chip Kelly. So like, 88 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: clearly and I wasn't a part of the hiring process, 89 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: but they had they had a specific or couple specific 90 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: individuals that they went listen, if we're gonna if we're 91 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: gonna fire one of the most successful I think he 92 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: probably is I guess Sirianni now because the Super Bowl 93 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: actually two of them, but well one win, you know 94 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: what I mean, we better know who's replacing him. So 95 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: it's like, I'm gonna fire John Harbaugh because he had 96 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: a crappy season because there was a bunch of injuries. 97 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: Who am I replacing him with? Because I can't just 98 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: fire John Harbaugh and go on a search like I 99 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: can't do that because the chance is that you know 100 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: forever John Harbaugh. There's a lot of Aaron Glenn's, there's 101 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: a lot of Jonathan Gannon's, there's a lot of this 102 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: ain't working. And I think that complicates the situation because 103 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: you look one this. I'm gonna get into this topic 104 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: probably over the next couple of weeks. I think this 105 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: is gonna be one of the craziest offseasons in the 106 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: history of football. When you look at college football, I 107 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: mean Penn State in Florida and if they fired Norvelle 108 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: Florida State. These are type jobs that give you eighty 109 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: million dollar contracts. Again, don't know if it's true. It 110 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: was reported that Brian Callahian signed a three year, fifteen 111 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: million dollar deal. Dames Franklin just fired. He's making ten. 112 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: Kurtz Signetti's in Indiana making eight, So I do think 113 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: you know, Joe Brady, it's like, do you want the 114 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinal's job with no quarterback? Or do you want 115 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: to be the head coach at Florida. Here's a six year, 116 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: sixty million dollars and you're the boss. Now you can 117 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: be like, well, college football, I don't know, it's not 118 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: that bad. I'm watching these games on Saturday. It looks 119 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: pretty badass, and they're getting paid premiums. So I think 120 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: there's just a lot of moving parts, and I think 121 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: you cannot fire John Harbaugh unless you go this is 122 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: where my Mike Tomlin thing was last year. It's like, hey, 123 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: now's your time to take your swing on Ben Johnson. 124 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: Like you can just hire Ben Johnson. Now it's also risky, 125 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: but like no one would have faulted you for doing that, 126 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: and Mike would have got a fresh start wherever right helly, 127 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: he'd probably be at the Jets and they'd be winning. 128 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: But I just don't think you can fire him Willy 129 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: Neely and like, let's go up canvass the landscape? I 130 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: don't think you can do that. I think you guys 131 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: are in a little trouble. You'll definitely win some games 132 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: if Lamar comes back healthy. Uh, but you start four 133 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: games under, you have a stretch where you go like 134 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: six and two. Let's just say you go six and 135 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: two over your next eight games at one and five, 136 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: think about where your record is six wins plus one 137 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: seven two plus five is seven. You only get back 138 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: to five hundred. So it's just it's it's really really difficult, 139 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: and I'd be stunned, giving the way their defense playing 140 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: if they go on a six and two stretch. So 141 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: if you went five and three, you're still under five hundred, 142 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: because you would be what would that be five. If 143 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: you went five and three, you'd be six and eight 144 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: getting texts about the guy that just cleared out my tree. 145 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: My neighbor's tree fell, and I honestly made me feel 146 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: good about humanity. We had this they called microburst. I 147 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: think it was a tornado. His tree fell over my 148 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: fence through my fight. Bess, those fighters. Trees are tough. 149 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: None of them snapped into my backyard. And I was like, 150 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: I guess me and Maria, I'm like, I don't really know. 151 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: I guess. I just go over to his house and 152 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: it wasn't like my neighbor. It was behind me. So 153 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: I had to go like around the block. And I 154 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: got in my car once the storm kind of really 155 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: settled down to stop raining, and he was pulling up 156 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: to my house and I was like, you know what, 157 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: I just kind of put a smile on my face. 158 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: But now, granted, he was older gentleman who I think's 159 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: doing pretty well because he was teaching a class today. 160 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: He had to say he had to go to Tucson 161 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: to teach a commercial real estate class. He's wearing an 162 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: Augustant National hat, so he must be a I just 163 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: kind of scouted him really Briefly, I was like, this 164 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: guy might be pretty successful, but he was just a 165 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: high level guy. And it's just you know, I was like, 166 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: I bet knock on the door. Guy's going to argue 167 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: it's not his fault, make me pay. And it wasn't 168 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: like that at all. So it's like, why do I 169 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: always assume the negative when there's just a lot of 170 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: positivity out there? Question for the back, now that the 171 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: Titans have fired their coach, what would it take for 172 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: them to trade for someone like John Harbaugh that might 173 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 1: need a fresh start. I would say that if you're 174 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: the Titans, in what world would John Harbad be interested 175 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: in that job? So to me and this, I said 176 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: the same thing for Tom Then forever they're not leaving 177 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: the Ravens or the Steelers, you're gonna have to fire them, right. 178 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: Sean Payton was like, this sucks. I quit at the 179 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: end of the day. They're the Saints, right. When you 180 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: work for the Steelers, when you work for the Ravens, 181 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: when you work for the Eagles, you don't force a trade. 182 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: That's not the way you make them fire you because 183 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: the job, the infrastructure, the financial backing, it's all there. 184 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: You don't leave. So I have a hard time seeing 185 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: John Harbaugh get traded, I really do. I think he'd 186 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 1: be more likely double middle fingers, fire me and then 187 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: I'll go get the job. Assuming that Borganzi and Brinker, 188 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: it is kind of a weird setup. I had a 189 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: really close friend that almost joined up with them last year, 190 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: and he was comfortable with the setup. He likes Borgonzi 191 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: a lot. But I clicked on the day at the gym, 192 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: like that press conference from yesterday, and it's like the 193 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: president but who is a scout, has a scouting background 194 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: and understands the cap over the GM. It's just kind 195 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: of bizarre. So I actually have a buddy that works 196 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 1: for the staff that has been some dysfunctional other places 197 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: and said, this place is kind of crazy. And it's 198 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 1: not like I'm defending what just went on with Brian Callahan. 199 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: I've never met Brian Callahan and he clearly wasn't good. 200 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: I just don't think that John Harbaugh. It's like, yeah, 201 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: I'll just go to the Titans, you know, after working 202 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: with Ozzy, Steve Bushatti and Eric Tacosta. So I think 203 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: the other thing is Eric Acosta and John Harbaugh are 204 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: very very close friends. Now, this is a cold business, 205 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 1: and business is cold in general. You know your closest friends, 206 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: I don't care who you are. Things can change really 207 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: quick when job stability, financial stability, and money is on 208 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: the line. So I would never say never about a 209 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: firing for sure, But I trade to the Titans. I 210 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: can't see that. I don't see John Harbaugh unless he 211 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: just wants to go to a retirement area like being 212 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 1: interested in like the Arizona Cardinals. Okay, it's gonna work 213 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: for Michael Bidwell. I just here's the thing. What's make 214 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: these guys so crazy is John Harbaugh has made so 215 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: much money over the last decade plus, Like really, once 216 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: he hit a stride. I mean he's probably been making 217 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: ten plus million dollars for well over a decade. I 218 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: think he makes like fifteen to eighteen million dollars. Now, 219 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: John Harbball works like eighty hour weeks so for over 220 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: half the year, Like he does he have time to 221 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: spend that money if you want to do and even 222 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: if his wife is an aggressive spender, you can't blow 223 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: that type of money, especially like once your house is 224 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: paid off and stuff, like what are they really doing? 225 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: Like he's he could take a deep breath, but that's 226 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 1: not really how the harballs are wired. Who's got it 227 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: better than us? A lot of people beside the Ravens, 228 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: that's for sure. What are your thoughts on the UTEP 229 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: study suggesting that during the NFL playoffs, penalties against opposing 230 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: defenses of the Chiefs were significant, significantly more likely to 231 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: result in first downs, cover more yardage, and fall in 232 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 1: subjective categories like roughing the passer in past interference. Gotta 233 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: say it's frustrating to see Mahomes and Kelsey talk shit 234 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: to other players knowing they'll get the benefit of doubt. Yeah, 235 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think they think like that. I mean, 236 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying. I didn't see the study. 237 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: Obviously they've gotten some good breaks. I also think the 238 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: talent to get better breaks, right, I think the best 239 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: to always get the better breaks. You know, it works 240 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: like that business, You know, it definitely works like that 241 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: in sports, Like Michael Jordan gets more calls than most players, 242 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: So did Kobe Bryant, so does Lebron James. Warriors fans 243 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 1: have been bitching for Steph forever doesn't think he gets 244 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: enough calls. But like you know, Derek Jeter is gonna 245 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: get the benefit of the doubt on an outside pitch 246 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: called the ball not a strike kind of the way 247 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 1: the world works. So it's like they've kind of earned that. 248 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: It doesn't bother me. And I don't think they've won 249 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: Super Bowls or gone to the Super Bowl because of 250 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: the ref Have there been individual situations that were bs? 251 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: For sure? Do I think it's insane that Patrick Mahomes 252 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: when he goes out of bounds and then he cuts 253 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: it back on a run and the guy stops. That 254 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: shouldn't be allowed. That should be penalized. But like, yeah, 255 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: I mean I don't get caught up as much on 256 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: the on the referees. Uh again, I mean, if I'm 257 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: gambling on it, I'll freak out. But I just think 258 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: we could The referees have been bad in officials in 259 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: sports and umpires in baseball for the majority of my 260 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: adult life. And if you're just gonna go into a 261 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: game wanting to just hate those guys, you easily can, 262 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: and it just can really bother you. Like there's a 263 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 1: human element to sports, and these guys are their emotions 264 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: get involved, whether it's Kelsey and Mahomes or whether it's 265 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: the Warriors. I mean the amount of times I have 266 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: seen NBA players teed up for swearing. It's like, guys, 267 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: this is not a youth league pick up hoops here 268 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: that this is a billion dollar industry with a lot 269 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: of money on the line. We're not teaching life lessons here. 270 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: We're trying to win chips and make cash. And that's 271 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: always really bothered me. It's like, yeah, these are grown man, 272 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: They're gonna swear. Mailback question. I'd be curious to hear 273 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,119 Speaker 1: how you think about growing your pod from a business standpoint. 274 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: How closely do you monitor the numbers engagement, video to video, 275 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: or even topic to topic. For example, Colin mentioned he's 276 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: looking at how every segment performs on the hurt. How much, 277 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: if at all, does the team around you influence, suggest 278 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: inform your upload, schedule, content topics, and strategy. Would you 279 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: ever want to manage a network of your own like 280 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: the volume or do you prefer just doing your own 281 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: thing on camera? H I would say two things that 282 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: I closely monitor that I do on a daily basis 283 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: is the content what I'm going to talk about, which 284 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: you're looking at the editor in chief here, So we 285 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: have a text thread. We got things flying around, different ideas, 286 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: different topics, and you know, I am not running a 287 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: TV show here, So you're not going to hear the 288 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys leading my show seven eight months a year. 289 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: That's just not going to happen now. Luckily, because of 290 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: the medium I'm in, I don't necessarily need to. I 291 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: try to talk about things that I'm fired up on, 292 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: but I also understand the business. I've been doing this 293 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: for well over a decade in radio and podcasts, especially 294 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: now with the influence of YouTube. Like I'm not going 295 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: to lead three shows a week with the Jags, you know, 296 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: or the lead with the Titans. So I have a 297 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: pretty good idea of what works and what doesn't. I mean, 298 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: the numbers kind of speak for themselves. But then there 299 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: are things that happened, like I did a I talked 300 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: about Mark Sanchez, I think like a week ago, and 301 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: we cut a social video and it was massive. I mean, 302 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: it was as big of a social video as we've 303 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: ever done. And listen, I'm not that big. Like, I 304 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: understand the value of social videos and social content, whether 305 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: it's YouTube shorts, Instagram reels, you know, Twitter little blasts, 306 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: but that's that's not paying for my kid to go 307 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: to private school. It's not generating unless there's specific content 308 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: we do for a sponsor, Like, it's not making any money. 309 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: So but like when you see big numbers, you're like, oh, 310 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: people are into that, and we've been talking about that 311 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: for a while. Is like, and I'm a big proponent 312 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: of this. It's like, this show is not about the 313 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: x's and nose of football. I'm not diving deep on 314 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: the running strategy of the Arizona Cardinals, you know, second 315 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: down offense. I would go under like I that wouldn't work. 316 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: We couldn't build a business off that. But I also 317 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: like when things work and when they don't work. And 318 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: I understand, like why is Mark Sanchez story huge? Because 319 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: it's the story that everyone's going to have an opinion 320 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: on it. My wife, my college roommate, was texting me 321 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: about it. He had a pretty he's a mission Vieho 322 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: guy and actually kind of knows Mark. But it's just 323 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: like it's just kind of a universal story, and I 324 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: got to do a better job of in corporating, you know, 325 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: like when everyone and sometimes I push back of like 326 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: what is everyone talking about on social cause I think 327 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: that social media has been the downfall of a lot 328 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: of people that I would say fifteen twenty years ago 329 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: that I would have viewed as successful people in the media. 330 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: And I think it's rotted their brain and they don't 331 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: understand what's good and bad because they just live on 332 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: the apps. And I try not to, you know, as 333 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: counterproductive as that may sound. Given the business I'm in, 334 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: I'm adamant and I've I've become so numb to it. 335 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: I'm pretty good at separating, like, yeah, that doesn't even matter. 336 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: But I do think it's pretty clear when topics are 337 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: pretty hot and there's a you know, a human element 338 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: to that, people enjoy and people, you know, enjoy my 339 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: opinion on it. So it's like I can talk about 340 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahone's performance or you know, a Max Crosby trade. 341 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: He didn't get traded. I'm just using hypothetical. He probably should, 342 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: but like till I'm blowing, if I can do that 343 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: with my eyes closed, like that's that's my bread and butter. 344 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: But I'm also a normal human being that just does 345 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: normal shit and has normal conversations about normal things. And 346 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: I got to do a better job about incorporating that 347 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: type stuff. And then obviously, you know the lifeblood of 348 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: what I do. Like you here a college coach was 349 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: a life blood of what you do. He's like recruiting, Well, 350 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: it's my partners, the advertisers. So I'm very very involved 351 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,959 Speaker 1: in that with our sales team, with our group, and 352 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: I take it very very seriously. So I would say 353 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: the lifeblood of me is the content. I'm going to 354 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: talk about it on a weekly and obviously during season 355 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: it's a lot of game reaction. And you know it's 356 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 1: ray Lewish Monday through Friday. You pay me Monday through Saturday. 357 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: Sunday's are for free, like you kind of pay me 358 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,239 Speaker 1: for the six months that aren't the NFL season. You know, 359 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: the season is just a reactionary. If you can't do 360 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: good stuff in the middle of October, you know, I 361 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: might as well just close up shop. But I would 362 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: say content and ads are bread and butter when it 363 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: comes to numbers, Like I don't spend too much time. 364 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: I obviously look and am dialed in, but I'm not 365 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: overly aggressive with that type stuff. You know, Colin does 366 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: a television show, so like segments on television, they get 367 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: people to stay around. It's a little different than this. 368 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: I would say, that's why wouldn't me and him do 369 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: a podcast. We'll just talk about whatever like going on 370 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: in the NFL. There's no rhyme or reason there were 371 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: games that we wouldn't hit in the in if we 372 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: were doing a television show that on podcasts doesn't matter 373 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: as long as it's interesting. And I would say my 374 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: one philosophy is that I just try to talk about 375 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: things that I'm interested in. I don't fake anything, Like 376 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 1: I'm not doing some of these TV shows where I 377 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: have to pretend to care. If I don't care, I 378 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: won't talk about it. I mean, it's just it's a 379 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: pretty easy formula for me. And as I've gotten older 380 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: that I just realize there are things I just don't 381 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: care about on a given day, Like I'm just not 382 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: gonna talk about it because I truly don't care. But 383 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: if I get enough people ask me about it, I'm like, Okay, 384 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: I didn't care that much. Jonathan Gannon slapping De Marcado. 385 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: But then that's a good, you know, a good example 386 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: of a lot of people are talking about it, people 387 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:08,719 Speaker 1: are asking me about it. I'm like, okay, let's talk 388 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: about today's show is brought to you by our new 389 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: presenting sponsor, hard Rock Bet. 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Since Will Levis had shown some 420 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: legit flashes in twenty three and Vrabel had gone six 421 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: to eighteen in his last twenty four with low skilled 422 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: buddies commanding a pitiful offense back then, it truly did 423 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: feel like change was needed. Callahan was certainly not an improvement, 424 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: and I look forward to the team getting the next 425 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: high right, But I can't be too bitter about wanting 426 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: to pivot to a younger offensive mind. All that said, 427 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: who do you see as the right fit? But this 428 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: is the thing with a bad organization, like John Harbaugh 429 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: has gone through bad times, Mike Tomlin. I know they 430 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: technically never had a losing records, but clearly he's had 431 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: some teams that weren't that good, right, And when you 432 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: know you have something good, you go, we're gonna stand 433 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: by you. And yeah, forced Mike Rabel to fire his coach. 434 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: Now I don't know I have all the behind the 435 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: scenes information. If he goes I'm not firing him, you go, yeah, okay, 436 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna have issues. But the big reason everyone reported 437 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: that they fired him is like he wasn't super happy 438 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: all the time and inclusive, and like you said, he 439 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: was losing. It's a production based business. But you're not 440 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: doing better than that. Like look at the other guys 441 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: that he replaced, Mike Mullarkey, Like look at some of 442 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: the coaches in UH over the past decade that you've 443 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: had run your franchise. They're an embarrassment. And yeah, Mike 444 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,479 Speaker 1: kid a rough skid and he had to go with 445 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: Will Levis. I mean, who loved Will Levis ran Carthin 446 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: will Evis stinks, but I hear you. I mean, it's 447 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: it's not as black and white, maybe as I made 448 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: it out to be, but it's pretty clear even when 449 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: it happened, and I think a lot of us that 450 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: aren't too close to the sun went that seems a 451 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: little crazy to me. You're gonna fire him for Brian 452 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: Callahan who wasn't even calling place. That's what I That 453 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: was my point. You hired him. You know, this is 454 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel's thing is he's not the play caller. So 455 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: at least when you're getting a play caller and you 456 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: hire him as your head coach, like Liam Cohen, you 457 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: know he's gonna call the plays because you've seen him 458 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: call the plays, like we didn't know if Mike or 459 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor could call the place. With UCLA winning back 460 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: to back games, is it more of an indictment on 461 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: how bad de Shaun Foster was or is it just 462 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: the team playing well for the interim? If you google 463 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: Tim Skipper, who I worked with at President State for 464 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: two years, Tim Skipper is one of the best coaches 465 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: I've ever been around. His command of the players is elite. 466 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: Now not shocking. His dad decades in the NFL as 467 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: a coach, his brother decades in the NFL as a coach. 468 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: His brother is currently the running back coach for the 469 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, James Cook. You ever heard of him doing 470 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: pretty well? And those guys have been around football their 471 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: entire life. Tim Skipper as a star middle linebacker at 472 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: Fresne State. His brother was a star running back at 473 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: Fresno State. Those guys are football men. And when you're 474 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: just a player and then you kind of get into 475 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: coaching and all of a sudden you're the head coach. 476 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 1: Tim Skipper has been an assistant coach from everywhere from 477 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: Sack State to Fresno State to the University of Florida. 478 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: He's seen it all NFL players from the first round 479 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: to the seventh round coordinators that are now in the NFL. 480 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: In college football head coaches, I mean, he played with 481 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 1: Lane Kiffen, worked for Pat Hill, worked for Jim mcklewain, 482 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: worked for Jeff Tedford, so his experience level. And then 483 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: last year he was because Tedford quit in the summer, 484 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: he got to be the head coach for a year 485 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 1: on a staff that he didn't hire any of them 486 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: and he just had to run it. And at one 487 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: point in time, I think they were like six and three, 488 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: or maybe they were five and three. They had some 489 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: injuries and they finished five hundred. But it's one it's 490 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: hard to win at Fresno State. He's getting this players poascht. 491 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: Tim Skippers has a lot more experience, Like he's seen 492 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: how to operate ten different type team meetings, good teams, 493 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: bad teams, in the middle teams, teams that need a boost, 494 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 1: knows how to run a practice. So the experience in 495 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: Deshaun Foster is like I think Deshaun said this like 496 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: he's like a third or four Skipper brother because his dad, 497 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: Tim Skipper's dad or maybe was Skipper's brother, coached him 498 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: at UCLA. I forget it might have been his brother. 499 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: But he knows the family really well, like Tim is 500 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: very tight with Deshan Foster. But in terms of who 501 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: can coach better, like, it's it's not even fair. There's 502 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: no way he could know how to do everything as 503 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: well as Tim Skipper. It's literally impossible. Doesn't mean if 504 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: he had been an assistant for ten more years couldn't 505 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: have figured it out and got that, but right, now 506 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,479 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five, it's not a fair fight. So 507 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: I think there's an experience level in coaching football that 508 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: can't be duplicated. It really can't. Some guys like Vrabel's 509 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: a good example. You know, Vrabel played for a long 510 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: time in the NFL, and the way he played in 511 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: the NFL was a lot like a coach, right. He 512 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: was working hand in hand with Belichick, from Romeo Crenell 513 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: to some of those guys. So his teaching as a player, 514 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: so by the time he gets into coaching in his 515 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: late thirties early forties, he had a unique background that way, 516 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: and he started at the bottom. He just went right 517 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 1: to Ale State, started working in the gutter and kind 518 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: of worked his way up position coach, defensive coordinator, like 519 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: it took a little while. Deshaun Foster like went from 520 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: first base to home plate pretty quick and clearly was 521 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: over his head. Do you think the Falcons are slowing 522 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: Pennock's growth by running almost their entire offense out of 523 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: the pistol. I like it as part of the offense, 524 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 1: but they used it the entire game. It came up 525 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: Monday night during the broadcast when Arlowski said they're mainly 526 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: doing it because Bijeon feels like he gets a lot 527 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 1: better vision. Thoughts, well, Bjeon's a better player. So if 528 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: Bijeon goes coach, I like being in the shot, or 529 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 1: I like being in the pistol because it allows me 530 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: to see more. Pennicks ain't Peyton. So if Penix goes, well, hey, coach, 531 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: I'd rather do this than that. You're going with Jon 532 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: Robinson and he busts eighty yard runs, He's gonna get 533 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: the benefit of doubt the end of the day. Production 534 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: based business, and the guy's produced at the highest level. 535 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: Who happens to be your best player. You gotta gotta 536 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: figure it out around him. Now over time, I think 537 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: you work with them both. But I have a hard 538 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: time arguing if Bijeon says I have better vision on 539 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: those plays, not doing those plays because he's so good. 540 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, runs coming stop me. You probably won't. 541 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: In your opinion, why is losing in football so much 542 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: more gut wrenching than losing in other sports. Our teams 543 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: lose all the time in hockey, basketball, and baseball, and 544 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: we move on. But in football it is much more devastating. 545 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: In the scars of Super Bowl or playoff losses Linger forever. 546 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: There's only one game a week, baby. Football's greatest asset 547 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: is scarcity and in these other sports. In baseball, you 548 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: can have weeks where you literally play every day. You 549 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: play over and over and over and over. So just 550 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: by the nature of the sport, an individual game is devalue. 551 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: It's like when you you know, hear the you know, 552 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: one hundred and six to two game season. So if 553 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: you go on a ten game winning streak, it's like 554 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: winning one game in football. If you go on a 555 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: twenty game winning streak, it's like winning back to back 556 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: football games. In basketball, if you win ten straight games, 557 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: do the math, I mean, it's it's like winning two 558 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: games in football. So I think part of it is 559 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: the build up of a football game, you know it. 560 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: Let's face it, we all think it's pretty crazy to 561 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: play these Thursday night games because you basically don't get 562 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: to practice. Lebron James t tas having practice in the 563 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: regular season in a decade. In football, it's you know, 564 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: beside the Thursday night game, there is not a team 565 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: in the league that doesn't practice Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. 566 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: Even when you have injuries. In the regular season, you 567 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: are practicing Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. The whole sport is built 568 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: around practicing way more than you're playing. It's what makes 569 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: the games like if you don't try hard in the games, 570 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: like they're the only fun part. I only made it 571 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: to high school football, but everything about football beside the 572 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: game kind of sucks, Like you got to be a sicko, 573 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: you know, like Peyton or you know, Jerry Rice or 574 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: some of these guys, Like I loved practice. Most guys 575 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: you meet, they're like, yeah, I just I knew I 576 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: needed it to get ready, But I love the games, 577 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: uh practice, especially back in the double days, you know, 578 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: Era You're like, I don't. I don't know if I 579 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: love just double days and one hundred and ten. That's 580 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: not really what I'm looking forward to. But you walk 581 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,959 Speaker 1: out of the tunnel, whether it's a high school game, 582 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: where it's a college game, was it's an NFL game, Yeah, 583 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: I can't. I've never played in the NFL. I can't 584 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,239 Speaker 1: imagine a lot of those guys. There's a little kid 585 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: there's also there's an anxiety behind it. There's a little 586 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: kid feeling behind it, and there's just nothing like that 587 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: feeling of making a play, making a block or whatever 588 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: in the sport in an actual game, and it's really 589 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: meaningfuls why scoring a touchdown is a really big deal. 590 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: Shooting a three point shot or hitting a home run, 591 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: like just isn't that big a deal. If you're a 592 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: good player, you have a defining moment in your scouting career. 593 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: Did you ever scout a guy you were high on 594 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: but everyone else said you were wrong? You know, for 595 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: a couple of years as the in house guy, I 596 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: had some ideas and takes. I don't know if they 597 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: really cared what they were. And then I only did truly, 598 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: you know. I went on the road some little schools. 599 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: They threw me a couple I would say slivers when 600 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: I was working in the office. And then my third 601 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: year I got the actual coach coast, which was the 602 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: PAC twelve the Mountain West Colorado. At the time, who 603 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: there would have been in the PAC twelve, But trying 604 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: to think utep, I had a pretty big area, I 605 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: would say twofold one. I'll never forget watching Trent Richardson 606 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: in college and everyone and again, no one will remember this, 607 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: no one will believe me, But I was like, I 608 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: don't think this guy's that good, and I remember hearing 609 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: people like, no, he's the best running back in the class. 610 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: I just remember thinking, but there was Andrew Sandejo that 611 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: played for a long time. My second year, I had 612 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: this this league called the UFL, and and yeah, I 613 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: just said, like this, Andrew Sendejo, guy could could play. 614 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: And Lewis Riddick, who was our pro director at the time, 615 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: kind of laughed at me. Andrew Sineo just went on 616 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: to have a ten year career. I do remember one 617 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: time Tyler Klutz, who wasn't even in the system for 618 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: the Eagles because he was like a two hundred and 619 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: twenty pound defensive end. He went to the UFL, he 620 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: became a full back. Then he went to the NFL. 621 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: He started for the Cowboys, and I remember in the 622 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: UFL when people were working him out and I looked 623 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: at Howie and I said, I will give up my 624 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: year's salary, which at the time was like forty five 625 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: thousand dollars if this guy makes it in the NFL. 626 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure the Cowboys signed him like a 627 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: week later, and my cousin played with Tyler Klets at 628 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: Friston State. I just the guy changed positions and think 629 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: it was gonna work, and it kind of did. I 630 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: think he played for the Bears too, I mean he 631 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: played in the NFL for a minute. Charger fan, I 632 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: haven't given up on the season by any means, especially 633 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: with the guys coming back. I think we can at 634 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,719 Speaker 1: least win a playoff game, maybe more. However, the future 635 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: am I biased? Thinking the Chargers have one of the 636 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: best five year outlooks in the AFC. Top five quarterback, 637 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: two all Pro tackles, assuming Slater comes back and plays 638 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: well again. When you have major injuries, I think you 639 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: never know. At this point in time, I would say 640 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: you got all that. That's pretty good, really good defense, 641 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: great coaches. Yeah, I would say I would feel pretty 642 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: good about my five year outlook. This year could be 643 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: pretty or miss. I mean they had to pull game 644 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: out of you know what to just beat the Dolphins, 645 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: and I just you're missing that many players. To me, 646 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: it's the two tackles and the running backs. Like it's 647 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: one thing to lose one of the two running back, 648 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: you lose both Nase and Hampton. You give Nagi ten 649 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: million dollars, you drafted Hampton the first round and Slater 650 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: and Alt are gone. I don't care who you are. 651 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: I know they're throwing it a lot more now. But 652 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: we know Jim Harmon wants to wants to call run plays. 653 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: I know he's out the play caller, but telling Greg 654 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 1: to do it. So yeah, man, I uh, I was impressed. 655 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: I would say this if they get somewhat healthy, you know, 656 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: Khalil Mack comes back, Joalt comes back, Hampton comes back. 657 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: Let's say they don't win the division, right, and I 658 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: doubt that. I doubt would be strong. But let's say 659 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: it's a fifty to fifty chance either the Chiefs or 660 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,720 Speaker 1: Broncos probably more than that win the division, not the Chargers. 661 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: Would the Colts or the Steelers want to see the 662 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: Chargers in the first round? I don't know Saints fan 663 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: here from Tennessee. A lot of my family are Titans fans. 664 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: With the recent firing of Brian Callahan, it's hard not 665 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: to compare a short tenure in Tennessee to Mike Vrabels. 666 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: Both were first time head coaches, but they had completely 667 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: different results. As a Saints fan, I'm curious do you 668 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: see any patterns in Kellen Moore. That might hint at 669 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: whether he's more likely to be a Vrabel or a Callahan. 670 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 1: Well know, you know what's funny about Kellen Moore. He's 671 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: like a quarterback an athlete. Hell played in the NFL. 672 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: Yet I like him a lot, But sometimes I get 673 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: this when I'm not eating healthy kind of get that. 674 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: He does not have the Jimmy Garoppolo jaw line like me. 675 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: His face can get a little chubby. He does not. 676 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: If you just looked at him, you wouldn't think like 677 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: this guy's one of the great college quarterbacks of all time, 678 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: holds NCAA records. I had a front row seat to 679 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: him for a couple of years. Guy was a fucking baller. 680 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think I do believe this. Kellen 681 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: Moore is the most underappreciated college football player of the 682 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: last twenty five years. He was so good. And then obviously, 683 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: I mean he's five foot eleven, he's got a weak arm. 684 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: He dominated in college at Boise State, And I would 685 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 1: say this about Kellen Moore that's different from Brian Kellyan. 686 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: But you know, Rabol part of Rabel is I'm just 687 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: a badass ass kicker. I'm like a more accomplished Dan Campbell. 688 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: I'm the Dan Campbell on steroids, right, and like Kellen 689 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 1: Moore doesn't bring that to the table. But what he 690 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: does bring is he's been a play caller for a 691 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: long time for a lot of different players. He's called 692 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: plays for Dak, He's called plays for Justin Herbert, He's 693 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: called plays for Jalen Hurts. Brian Callahan never did. So 694 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm watching them unlessen, their team's not that good. They 695 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: got a long way to go. Spencer Ratler's pretty good, 696 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,320 Speaker 1: and their offense looks good. Well, who's the offensive architect 697 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: of the team, Kellen Moore, So I would feel pretty 698 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: good like my guy has a distinct skill. He can 699 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: call plays. I would say the same thing about the Cowboys, 700 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: Like Listen, it's gonna be on Jerry and the front 701 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: office to like nail some defensive players, especially the d 702 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,280 Speaker 1: lyman in the draft over the next couple of years. 703 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: But one thing, Brian Callahan showing like Dak likes him, 704 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 1: and he's a good offensive play car. So think how 705 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: many like li'sten. What we say about Syrianny, well, Sirianni 706 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: is a great leader, Well yeah, because he had good 707 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 1: players like if he had a shitty GM instead of 708 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: Howie Roseman that leadership, Like, what's he doing next to 709 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: those wise? Well, I can't call him place. It's always 710 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: my knock on Syrian, What do you mean can't call Blaze? 711 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: He just can't do it? You mean cannot No, like 712 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 1: incapable of doing it. Brian Callahan, can Kellen Moore, can 713 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 1: Kelli Moore literally was his guy, and they've falling off 714 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,760 Speaker 1: the cliffs as he left. People think I'm shitting on Sirianni. 715 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 1: Like I do respect him. It's a hard job, a 716 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 1: lot of pressure, but like he just incapable call him place. 717 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 1: It's one thing like John Harbaugh is like a sixty 718 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 1: four year old special teams coach, Like yeah, okay, I 719 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 1: get it. But sirian is like a forty four year 720 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:10,760 Speaker 1: old offensive guy wide former wide receiver. As a twenty 721 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: seven year old Dolphins fan, I've witnessed nothing but mediocrity 722 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: for most of my life. The last time they won 723 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: a playoff game was in two thousand and I was 724 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,359 Speaker 1: barely coherent. I need someone to explain to me how 725 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: Greer still has a job. He joined the organization as 726 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 1: a scout in two thousand and worked his way up 727 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: to GM in twenty sixteen after nine years of mediocre management. 728 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,399 Speaker 1: It's baffling how a he's still here. In any other job, 729 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: he would have been fired long time ago. The organization 730 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 1: is the jambles, and now two is blaming everyone else 731 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: in the press conferences. That was incredible. I hate this organization. 732 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 1: The media is right. This team is soft, and it 733 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 1: starts at the top of the ross. The old man 734 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: can't even be cutthroat to fire the right people. I 735 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 1: think a lot of people believe that he has like 736 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: a you know, it's like I go back and forth 737 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: worth on this the old illuminati, but there is no 738 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: disputing that in Hollywood and some of these some of 739 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: these circles and like the music industry, that people get 740 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,399 Speaker 1: dirt on you, and in politics it happens and they 741 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,399 Speaker 1: blackmail you, and you have to do what they tell 742 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: you to do, right. And I a lot of people 743 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,399 Speaker 1: on some dark Reddit streets which I'm sure you've read, 744 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: believe that Chris Greer has things on Steven Ross and 745 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 1: one of them is legitimately the the I almost said 746 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 1: Brian Callahan Brian Flores situation, like he has intimate knowledge 747 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 1: of him. Did he try to pay him one hundred 748 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: grand to lose games? Are their text messages that he 749 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,839 Speaker 1: could release? Does he happen by the balls? Because if 750 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,800 Speaker 1: he does, like Welcome to America, that's the way it works. 751 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 1: And he's got the owner because clearly he's not any good, 752 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: no clue what he's doing. And I would say this 753 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 1: organization just needs a complete nuke job. The problem is 754 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: Stephen Ross still hiring everybody. So it feels like Steven 755 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 1: Austin Woody Johnson are that Spider Man meme where they're 756 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,439 Speaker 1: pointing at each other right now, which is crazy because 757 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: you can bind those two guys like they have so 758 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: much money. They're in New York and Miami. These should 759 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 1: be prominent NFL franchise. And I think the thing the 760 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: league benefits from the most that I'm recording this late 761 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 1: afternoon on on Tuesday. I think the Dodgers play the Brewers. 762 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: Baseball is very dependent on like the Yankees, the Red Sox, 763 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: the Cubs, the Dodgers. If it's like Tampa, Milwaukee, Seattle, 764 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: like they're gonna have problems basketball is the same way 765 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: they would gladly have Oklahoma City suck. So the Lakers, 766 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: and the Warriors and the Knicks and the Bulls could 767 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: be good. They would do. Football does not matter. It 768 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 1: could be the Lions versus the Bills. It could be 769 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,760 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, you know, versus the Packers. The market share 770 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be New York. It doesn't have to 771 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 1: be San Francisco. Chicago hasn't. They've had like two good 772 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 1: teams in our last twenty years. And that's where football 773 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 1: really benefits in this situation, because, yeah, I don't know 774 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 1: what else to say. There are a lot of big 775 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: market teams that are just not pulling their weight. Vikings 776 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: Fan here and I got a Lions related question. With 777 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: Jared Goff approaching ten years in the league, if you 778 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,800 Speaker 1: were a Lion's front office, would you start to consider 779 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 1: drafting a quarterback the next few drafts and use the 780 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: Green Bay strategy in developing a quarterback. Let's see how 781 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:34,319 Speaker 1: old Jared Goff is. Jared Goff is thirty one years old. 782 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: With the protection of the NFL all with quarterbacks, he 783 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 1: could have another five six years easy. Obviously their offensive 784 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 1: line is good. I think you're always in the business 785 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: of drafting and developing a quarterback. But if you're the 786 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 1: Lions and you are in this win now mode. I 787 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 1: don't think you would waste a first round pick on them. 788 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 1: But let's even go in the second round. Well, it's like, 789 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: what if I get a starting safety or defensive back 790 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: or defensive tackle or offensive guard. It's easy to talk 791 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 1: yourself out of it now. I think once you get 792 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 1: to like the fourth fifth round, I have no problem 793 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: drafting you know, a Kyle McCord, a Tanner McKee. Those 794 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 1: type guys, right, And I know some of them went 795 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 1: in different rounds. Kirk Cousins type. Yeah. I mean, I'm 796 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: not against it, but I think for the Lions in 797 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 1: their current situation, I would have a hard time taking 798 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: a quarterback. I don't know in the first three rounds. 799 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 1: Maybe you could justify it in the third round. Their 800 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: backups Kyle Allen, I mean, their backup's pretty If Kyle 801 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,839 Speaker 1: Allen has to play, they'd be in trouble. But that's 802 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: kind of the Tom Moore thing. Peyton Mannon takes all 803 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 1: the reps. Well, why doesn't the backup take the reps? 804 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 1: Because if Peydon goes down, we're screwed, and we don't 805 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 1: practice screwed. I use the PG version on that on 806 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:59,399 Speaker 1: the way, I just the adjective I used. Tom Moore 807 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 1: used the f worce to Gruden when he asked because 808 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,720 Speaker 1: Peyton Many never didn't take a rep Yo John watching 809 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 1: since the start of last season, always tuned in for 810 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: each episode, was wondering your thoughts on how you maintain 811 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: a non biased look at teams throughout the season playoffs 812 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,359 Speaker 1: after having worked in the NFL with certain organizations, you 813 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: secretly have a favorite team nobody knows or are you 814 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:28,399 Speaker 1: like Rob Low wearing the NFL logo hat. Because this 815 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 1: is not a passion project for me and hasn't been 816 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 1: since I started in the podcast world. The only thing 817 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 1: that mattered is like I needed to do this to 818 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,359 Speaker 1: feed my family that I didn't have at the time. 819 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 1: But it was like, this is gonna be my profession. 820 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 1: And I never understand how media doesn't understand the business 821 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: element of it. And luckily, like through getting fired in radio, 822 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 1: I had to do like kind of look in the mirror, 823 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 1: like I don't understand the way that business works enough 824 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 1: so I become pretty numb to it all obviously, Like 825 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 1: and the other thing is like I'm not in Collins 826 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 1: said this forever, Like I'm not in the right and 827 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 1: wrong business, Like I don't care if I'm wrong. I 828 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 1: just give my opinion at the time. If Kayleb Williams 829 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,839 Speaker 1: becomes a superstar, it's like, yeah, I'll acknowledge it. I mean, 830 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 1: I don't care. I hope he does. I want more 831 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and more players or more coaches to be awesome. 832 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:26,360 Speaker 1: But the only thing that matters is the entertainment value 833 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 1: of what's going on and what my opinions are based 834 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,840 Speaker 1: on the situations. I'm in the reaction business. Stories. I 835 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:37,359 Speaker 1: don't create the stories, right, I mean, I've really I'm 836 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,360 Speaker 1: not a story breaker. Even though your boy with the 837 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 1: Belichick and the scouts, you know, kind of created a firestorm. 838 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 1: But the only reason I did that is I was 839 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 1: reacting to a story that Pete Damil read on the 840 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 1: Monday night football game for North Carolina. Like, I'm not 841 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 1: into chasing around texting people for inside information. I do 842 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 1: not care. I'm reacting to stories that come out and 843 00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 1: I get my opinion, and the more people enjoy that 844 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 1: and the entertain I don't care. You know, I if 845 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,959 Speaker 1: you told me revenue would quadruple and listeners would five 846 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 1: x if I if I just talked about the Jags 847 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,280 Speaker 1: every single day, I would wouldn't hesitate to start tomorrow. 848 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:19,240 Speaker 1: This is like there's no the emotion in this business, 849 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 1: which can be sad like I miss some of that. 850 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 1: I grew up loving the forty nine ers, like I 851 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 1: still root for them, I guess, but if when they lose, 852 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: I don't really it's like whatever, h Now, I can 853 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 1: be emotionally moved like I felt for Fred Warner, like 854 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 1: I'm probably more emotionally moved from his injury than most 855 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 1: other injuries. But like when I have to talk about 856 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,799 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, I don't care like they forty nine 857 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 1: ers get mad at me for thinking like and I'm like, guys, 858 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: I'm not like I'm not an enemy here, but and 859 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 1: people get mad at me in the NFL. And the 860 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 1: one thing I, you know, say to whoever does get 861 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: mad at me, is like I put my name on 862 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 1: everything I say. You know, every single in the NFL, coaches, GMS, scouts, 863 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 1: they're talking shit about everyone constantly, but they never have 864 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 1: to put their name on it. Everything I say is 865 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 1: sourced John, you know. So I just this is a business, 866 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 1: and I think all of you guys can relate what 867 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 1: any industry you work in, you know, construction, the booze business, 868 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 1: the food business. As you get older and you know, 869 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 1: especially I'm pretty numbers and financially motivated, I guess that 870 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,800 Speaker 1: I just become numb to it all. Now I'm still 871 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 1: into it, and I'm still emotionally moved by the sport 872 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 1: of football and the stories. But I can navigate it 873 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 1: pretty easy, I think without like I just I don't 874 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 1: have any bias or agenda to this. I will change 875 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,960 Speaker 1: my opinion if new information comes out. 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Gambling problem Call 903 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:32,880 Speaker 1: one one hundred Gambler Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia. 904 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,319 Speaker 1: Why aren't some teams discussing the same way they eventually 905 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 1: going best? Why aren't some teams discussed the same way 906 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,880 Speaker 1: even though they are going through the same issues. The 907 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 1: Bills have lost two straight games with horrible offensive games. 908 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 1: The Eagles also are going through the same issues, but 909 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,840 Speaker 1: for the Eagles it's Hert's fault offensive coordinator player. For 910 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,360 Speaker 1: the Bills, it's they're gonna bounce back because they have 911 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. I just feel there needs to be consistent 912 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,960 Speaker 1: analysis on the team performances because Josh Allen's a way 913 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,800 Speaker 1: better player than Justin Herbert or excuse me, Jalen hurts 914 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,840 Speaker 1: when you're Patrick Mahomes and when you're Josh Allen and 915 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,759 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and Burrow when he's healthy. They don't get 916 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,720 Speaker 1: evaluated on a game to game basis. They're the elites. 917 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 1: They run the fucking league. I get this a lot. 918 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,360 Speaker 1: It's like Steph Curry can have a zero for twelve 919 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 1: seven point game. They're not opening the shows the next 920 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 1: day like as Steph washed. It's not the way it works. 921 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 1: And I understand Jalen won the Super Bowl last year 922 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,920 Speaker 1: and was awesome, but I think we all agree, like 923 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 1: he's not nearly close to the top guys on a 924 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,759 Speaker 1: week to week basis in the regular season, has some 925 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 1: great playoff games, and we respect him. He's a super 926 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 1: Bowl champion for life, but like he ain't Josh Allen 927 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,320 Speaker 1: and Howie Roseman would trade Jalen Hurts straight up for 928 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 1: Josh Allen yesterday. So it's like, we don't evaluate these 929 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,400 Speaker 1: guys every snap they take. Now, if Josh Allen has 930 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 1: a god awful season, then that's another conversation. But he's 931 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,880 Speaker 1: not gonna get discussed like he's Dak Prescott or Jalen 932 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,600 Speaker 1: Hurts or Jared Goff. Those days are done. Why he's 933 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,839 Speaker 1: a much better player? Can we all agree with that? Like? 934 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,759 Speaker 1: Is that? Even? So? The reason Jalen gets discussed like 935 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,759 Speaker 1: he gets discussed because he has these shitty performances all 936 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 1: the time, and unlike a lot of these guys is 937 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,279 Speaker 1: he's like won a super Bowl. It's like, what is 938 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 1: going on? I think a lot of people would have 939 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,640 Speaker 1: thought coming off the Super Bowl that Jalen would be 940 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 1: like an MVP candidate for the next several years, one 941 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 1: of the best players in the league, and he clearly 942 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 1: is not. So it's like, what are we what conversation? Oh, 943 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,919 Speaker 1: he's fine, He's fine. How like he sure doesn't look fine. 944 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 1: Like it's it's in his resume based on the course 945 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 1: of like four years, there's a lot of ups and downs. 946 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, like Jalen Hurts is a super Bowl Josh 947 00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,759 Speaker 1: Allens is not. What do you think would happen if 948 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 1: Josh Allen's on the Eagles these last four years? I'm 949 00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:01,600 Speaker 1: not discussing Josh Allen on a weekly basis. Every team 950 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 1: beside the Chiefs would take Josh Allen seven days a 951 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,839 Speaker 1: week and seventy five times on Sunday. And we all 952 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,759 Speaker 1: know this anyone with common sense. A lot of teams 953 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,600 Speaker 1: would not want to trade for Jalen Hurts. And that's 954 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,520 Speaker 1: not just the teams that have like Patrick Mahomes and 955 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:22,719 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. The Chargers would laugh, would laugh. The Washington Commanders, 956 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:27,400 Speaker 1: who are in their division, they wouldn't do that in 957 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 1: a million years. And again that's what makes the conversational. 958 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,799 Speaker 1: That's why he's a polarizing player because I could say 959 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,120 Speaker 1: that out loud. Can you imagine, like, yeah, the Washington 960 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:40,360 Speaker 1: Commanders wouldn't trade Jayden Danis for Patrick Mahomes You're like, 961 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:44,680 Speaker 1: what did you just say? Repeat that? But if I 962 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 1: said the Washington Commanders would not trade Jane Danis for 963 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,960 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, but yeah, of course not, I wouldn't either. 964 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:54,920 Speaker 1: I know we're in the trenches of the football season, 965 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 1: but I'm curious to hear your thoughts on the Kawhi 966 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,200 Speaker 1: Leonard and the Clipper situation that the NBA seems to 967 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 1: have brushed on the rug. How do you think the 968 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,680 Speaker 1: NFL would respond to the Caps are convention versus the 969 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 1: NBA seemingly trying to cover it up. Uh. I think 970 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:15,600 Speaker 1: the NBA situation doesn't parallel the NFL because one individual 971 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:20,080 Speaker 1: player like Kawhi, he's like your quarterback, and then your 972 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,839 Speaker 1: five next best players, they're so much more powerful. I 973 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,400 Speaker 1: think it's pretty clear. Like I've listened to a decent 974 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:31,239 Speaker 1: amount of Pablo went on my guy Ethan Strauss's podcast, 975 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,680 Speaker 1: and I've seen some clips as he's continued to investigate it, 976 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,520 Speaker 1: Like you would have to be really, really naive to 977 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 1: think a lot of shady shit didn't go down, and 978 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,600 Speaker 1: maybe it could have been his uncle running point on it, 979 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:48,120 Speaker 1: and Kawhi wasn't like, didn't have intimate knowledge of it all, 980 00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,360 Speaker 1: but money was getting funneled to them one way or 981 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:54,960 Speaker 1: the other. I think part of the reason is a 982 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,680 Speaker 1: lot of stuff like this happens in the NBA and 983 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,920 Speaker 1: one guy is treated like there you know, we say 984 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,080 Speaker 1: quarterback is the most famous. Like I think these NBA 985 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 1: stars when it comes to their financial mechanisms surrounding them, 986 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,720 Speaker 1: they're like many Amazons and many Googles, like the business 987 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,240 Speaker 1: of Lebron the business and stuff core. The Kawhi plays 988 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 1: like one game a month, and look at how they've 989 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 1: treated them. But do I believe they did shady stuff? 990 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 1: Of course they do. But I think part of the 991 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:31,520 Speaker 1: problem is, are we gonna start looking at everybody like 992 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,800 Speaker 1: a Joe Lacup. Could we take a peek at some 993 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,640 Speaker 1: of the stuff you've done over the years with that 994 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,240 Speaker 1: silicon valley in your backyard? How you funneled everybody money 995 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:42,759 Speaker 1: or have you? I don't know. Can we take a 996 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:47,160 Speaker 1: look the nick? I mean, Jalen Brunson just took a 997 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:51,759 Speaker 1: huge pay cut a year ago, a massive pay cut. 998 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,160 Speaker 1: Were their promises made? And I don't even care? It 999 00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,560 Speaker 1: doesn't bother me. Here's the other thing, Well, the Kawhi 1000 00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:03,319 Speaker 1: story is clearly, you'd have to be pretty naive to 1001 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,600 Speaker 1: not go like, they're pretty big red flag. They never won, 1002 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 1: they never did anything because they got into business. You know. 1003 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,280 Speaker 1: It's one thing I think this would be a bigger 1004 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:17,120 Speaker 1: story if this was Joannis, if this was Jokic, if 1005 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,480 Speaker 1: this was Steph, if this was Lebron, It's like, hey, guys, 1006 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,720 Speaker 1: you're kicking our ass. You got the best player. It's like, 1007 00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't even want Kawhi. How many gms would be 1008 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,640 Speaker 1: like would you want to be in business with Kwai? No? 1009 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:33,359 Speaker 1: Have them give them aspirations or invitations or whatever. That 1010 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,759 Speaker 1: fuck that company's called funnel him and we don't care 1011 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,320 Speaker 1: because when we play you usually he's in street close 1012 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:41,960 Speaker 1: with some injury ice in his knee that only he 1013 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,759 Speaker 1: knows about because he doesn't talk to anybody. What an 1014 00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,480 Speaker 1: awful business partner. I think about this all the time, Like, 1015 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 1: do you know how good the Chiefs have it? They're 1016 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,279 Speaker 1: in business with Patrick Mahomes, you know, great of a 1017 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 1: business partner it is for them, how easy it is 1018 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,360 Speaker 1: to deal with them, Like that's who you want to be, 1019 00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,360 Speaker 1: you know, awesome it is for the Warriors to be 1020 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,560 Speaker 1: in business with Steph Curry. It doesn't the Yankees with 1021 00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,560 Speaker 1: Aaron Judge, Like, if I'm gonna pay or show heyo Tani. 1022 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 1: If I'm gonna pay premiums and go above and beyond it, 1023 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,280 Speaker 1: you shady shit. I want all the returns. It's sports. 1024 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,200 Speaker 1: You know We're not guaranteed to win anything on a 1025 00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,560 Speaker 1: yearly basis. Right. Besides, if I'm paying, like I have 1026 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,080 Speaker 1: a minimum standard, like we should be in the playoffs. 1027 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 1: But like, how good of a business partner are you? 1028 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,239 Speaker 1: Do you maintain your stardom? Do you play a lot? 1029 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:27,840 Speaker 1: Do you move the needle? Do you generate me a 1030 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,239 Speaker 1: lot of money? And I just don't think you can 1031 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,440 Speaker 1: say that about Kawhi. I think Kawhi has run him 1032 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,399 Speaker 1: and Uncle Dennis over these last five years. And listen 1033 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,200 Speaker 1: when he's on. He's a fantastic player and his resume 1034 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:43,000 Speaker 1: speaks for itself. But holy shit, I can't think of 1035 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 1: a guy with his talent. I'd rather be in business 1036 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,880 Speaker 1: with less. I mean, what a pain. And now you 1037 00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,600 Speaker 1: bring this because you have to do this stuff to 1038 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,760 Speaker 1: get get in business. But I think we all agree 1039 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,200 Speaker 1: that something happened. Would you call it? Mike Zimmer to 1040 00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:01,320 Speaker 1: replace Eberflus didn't. Didn't Zimmer get fired last year with McCarthy, 1041 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,640 Speaker 1: I don't think. It kind of feels like Zimmer's just retired. 1042 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,919 Speaker 1: I had a buddy who was on zimmer staff years ago, 1043 00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,480 Speaker 1: said he didn't like him, thought he was a raging 1044 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,440 Speaker 1: ahle that Zimmer used to be on tender. You know, 1045 00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,600 Speaker 1: Zimmer's wife died of cancer like a decade ago, and 1046 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,600 Speaker 1: then he started dating around like younger chicks and he 1047 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:26,759 Speaker 1: was on the internet apps. Question looks like Glenn is 1048 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,279 Speaker 1: in over his head. We're gonna have a top pick 1049 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,800 Speaker 1: in a decent quarterback class. I think it's just important 1050 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,759 Speaker 1: to have a competent head coach in place, otherwise the 1051 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,400 Speaker 1: quarterback pick will be a waste. I don't want the 1052 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,839 Speaker 1: Jets to be like the Titans, firing everyone every year. 1053 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,799 Speaker 1: If Glenn doesn't show signs of improvement, I hope we 1054 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:49,000 Speaker 1: get a veteran coach like Stefanski. I think Glenn's getting 1055 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:53,120 Speaker 1: several years former Jet It was a big deal hiring him. 1056 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,080 Speaker 1: I said this at the time, like people thought the 1057 00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:01,879 Speaker 1: res flirtation and Rex was really interested with the job 1058 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,359 Speaker 1: would have been crazy. I actually think there's no way 1059 00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,439 Speaker 1: they would be this battle Rex Ryan. I just do 1060 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,960 Speaker 1: not believe it. Now, you could argue a ceiling, what's 1061 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,960 Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn's ceiling? Rex knew what he was doing. I 1062 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:14,920 Speaker 1: do think looking back, like if I was the Jets, 1063 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,200 Speaker 1: I just would have given Rex like a three year contract, 1064 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:21,560 Speaker 1: just be like, guess in the right direction. Why do 1065 00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:26,040 Speaker 1: you hate Brandon Saley the way you talk about the 1066 00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,600 Speaker 1: way you talk about him, he should be coaching pee 1067 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,200 Speaker 1: wee games. I'm not saying Buddy Ryan. I'm not saying 1068 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,360 Speaker 1: he's Buddy Ryan. But he did coach the Rams, who 1069 00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,080 Speaker 1: number one defense in twenty twenty. There's no bigger fugazi 1070 00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,080 Speaker 1: than football in twenty twenty. I mean, you could argue, 1071 00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:40,320 Speaker 1: depending on where you live, it's one of the great 1072 00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:44,240 Speaker 1: fugazis of all time, but non football. But football wise, 1073 00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,360 Speaker 1: come on, in California, couldn't have fucking a soul in 1074 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:54,280 Speaker 1: the building, empty stadiums. It was a joke Brandon Staley. 1075 00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,080 Speaker 1: Growing up in California, I can sniff out a fraud 1076 00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,320 Speaker 1: pretty well. Our politicians the biggest clowns in the history 1077 00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,160 Speaker 1: of America. And to me, when I watched Brandon Staley 1078 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,240 Speaker 1: talk to the media, I went, this guy is gotta 1079 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,400 Speaker 1: be one of the biggest frauds of all time. And 1080 00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,000 Speaker 1: then I had friends who worked with him at different 1081 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:13,880 Speaker 1: places and said, he's the biggest know at all I've 1082 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:18,640 Speaker 1: ever been around. Last year, Kyle Shanahan couldn't. First off, 1083 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:22,240 Speaker 1: he deserves criticism for hiring in the first place. Kyle, 1084 00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,040 Speaker 1: I know you don't have my number, but if you did, 1085 00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,640 Speaker 1: text me, I could have told you that's moronic. By 1086 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,440 Speaker 1: like Game three, couldn't stand him because he'd lookout pregame 1087 00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,360 Speaker 1: and Brandon Staley's talking to all the media members. He 1088 00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,919 Speaker 1: is just your classic brown noser trying to play the game. 1089 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,600 Speaker 1: Look at the Saints this year. They are atrocious on defense, 1090 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,120 Speaker 1: and I get it. Kellen Moore felt a little obligated. 1091 00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:47,560 Speaker 1: Staley threw him a bone after State after you know, 1092 00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:49,560 Speaker 1: he was fired by the Cowboy, so he took care 1093 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,880 Speaker 1: of him in this situation. That's listen, that's kind of 1094 00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,920 Speaker 1: the way business works. He stinks. I think he's an 1095 00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:58,080 Speaker 1: awful coach, I really do, and I think you or 1096 00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,000 Speaker 1: I would have had a decent chance in two thousand 1097 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,400 Speaker 1: twenty the Fugazi season to coach Aaron Donald in his 1098 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,760 Speaker 1: prime in Jalen Ramsey in a league where all these 1099 00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,520 Speaker 1: other teams couldn't practice. I mean, it was a joke. 1100 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,760 Speaker 1: So if that's your claim to fame, and then I 1101 00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:17,960 Speaker 1: watch you speak, it's like it's just I can disagree 1102 00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,160 Speaker 1: with Andrew Berry and the way he views football. He 1103 00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,280 Speaker 1: views football like a bunch of widgets. I can disagree 1104 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,360 Speaker 1: with that, But when I watch Andrew Berry talk, I 1105 00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,920 Speaker 1: don't view him as like a fraud. Let's go we 1106 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:33,520 Speaker 1: have Philosophically, I'm different than Andrew Berry, and I understand Tomlin, 1107 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:38,760 Speaker 1: you know, sticking up for the integrity of the business. 1108 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,840 Speaker 1: But like I respect Andrew Berry, I respect most people 1109 00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 1: in this profession. Until I hear this. If I've worked 1110 00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:48,360 Speaker 1: with you and I think you're a fraud, I mean 1111 00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,040 Speaker 1: I can't stand you. But like I have pretty good 1112 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,880 Speaker 1: sources in the NFL, and when I hear things for 1113 00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:56,640 Speaker 1: me to go in and a guy like I feel 1114 00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:00,320 Speaker 1: pretty confident. I feel pretty confident. Like when Colin over 1115 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,880 Speaker 1: the years has gone in on guys players like he's 1116 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:08,600 Speaker 1: getting pretty high level people reiterating these thoughts to him 1117 01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:12,160 Speaker 1: that work in the leagues. So it's like some of 1118 01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,240 Speaker 1: my thoughts, like they come out of my mouth, but 1119 01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 1: they are constructed based on other people's information that I 1120 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:26,120 Speaker 1: trust from a professional standpoint to the highest degree. So 1121 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:30,520 Speaker 1: I just think he's an all time fraudulent coach who's 1122 01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:35,120 Speaker 1: just scamming different teams out of millions of dollars. It's funny, 1123 01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:36,800 Speaker 1: you know, you turn on First Take, or you turn 1124 01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,880 Speaker 1: on some of these shows, they just shit on players. 1125 01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,040 Speaker 1: If you play in the league and maybe this, like 1126 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,439 Speaker 1: you turn on Shannon Sharp and Ocho Sinko, they will 1127 01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,080 Speaker 1: just ship on players. I respect players, man, It is 1128 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,200 Speaker 1: so hard to make it to the NFL. It is 1129 01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,440 Speaker 1: so hard to do it unlessen No one wants to fumble. 1130 01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:54,960 Speaker 1: So it's not too as Faulty has a weak arm. 1131 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,480 Speaker 1: He's got a weak arms. That's not being critical, it's 1132 01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:01,720 Speaker 1: just a fact. But I respect how like he's He's 1133 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,200 Speaker 1: dramatically I would say increased the way that I view 1134 01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:06,640 Speaker 1: him over the last couple of years. Have a lot 1135 01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:08,560 Speaker 1: of respect for stuff. One'te of him is my quarterback, 1136 01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:10,800 Speaker 1: but I respect him. There are a lot of coaches 1137 01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:15,440 Speaker 1: I think that, and scouts too. You hear stories like 1138 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,720 Speaker 1: these guys are these got are scam artists in any 1139 01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,400 Speaker 1: business where there is a ton of money on the line, 1140 01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:25,000 Speaker 1: a ton of the amount of money this off season 1141 01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,560 Speaker 1: between the NFL and college that is going to be 1142 01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:32,560 Speaker 1: available is probably going to be historic, and that includes coordinators, 1143 01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:37,640 Speaker 1: so you start getting huge sums of cash. Not everyone 1144 01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:42,160 Speaker 1: that gravitates to it is the Hardbob Brothers, Mike Tomlin, 1145 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,200 Speaker 1: Andy Reid, and Pete Carroll. It's a lot of guys 1146 01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:49,520 Speaker 1: that have no business being anywhere close to it. But 1147 01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:53,960 Speaker 1: they're just they're frauds and they're politicians. It's like they're 1148 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,440 Speaker 1: a fake human. It's like, I don't believe they're real. 1149 01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,240 Speaker 1: Well done that. That's a good way to have a 1150 01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:05,280 Speaker 1: great day. Talked to everyone, soon, see you later the 1151 01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:09,040 Speaker 1: volume MHM