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Speaker 1: not be engaged. You're interested in it. So I we

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Speaker 1: make coding robot dolls for girls. Um, it's it's called

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Speaker 1: Smart Girls. So I go check this out. There is

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Speaker 1: a really cool self balancing segway Barbie. That's our first project,

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Speaker 1: and we have a million toys coming up in line

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Speaker 1: that are really really wild. Um, I'm gonna be a toymaker.

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Speaker 1: That is so much fun. It seems like you have

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Speaker 1: enough projects going right now, Carrie. I I don't think

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Speaker 1: you need to handle that much more. This is all

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Speaker 1: really fun and really exciting, and I hope our listeners

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Speaker 1: will check out your new book, Crash Test Girl. But Carrie,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us today. Thank you guys.

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Speaker 1: It fun talking to you. Thanks again for listening. Part

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Speaker 1: Time Genius is a production of how stuff works, and

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be possible without several brilliant people who do the

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Speaker 1: important things we couldn't even begin to understand. Tristan McNeil

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Speaker 1: does the editing thing. Noel Brown made the theme song

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Speaker 1: and does the MIXI MIXI sound thing. Jerry Rowland does

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Speaker 1: the exact producer thing. Gabe Louesier is our lead researcher,

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Speaker 1: with support from the Research Army including Austin Thompson, Nolan

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Speaker 1: Brown and Lucas Adams and Eve. Jeff Cook gets the

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Speaker 1: show to your ears. Good job, Eves. If you like

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Speaker 1: a good review for us. Did we? Did we forget Jason?

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Speaker 1: Jason who