WEBVTT - House of the Dragon S3E04 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.840 Warning. Today's episode contained spoilers for House of the Dragon, 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:23.160 episode four of season three of How's the Dragon Be Worn? Hello, 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:26.560 my name is Jason Concepcion and on Meersday Night, and 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:28.400 welcome back to etre vision of the podcast where we 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:30.720 dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comicscept pop culture 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:33.480 company from my Heart podcast where we're bringing you three 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:38.000 episodes a week plus news. 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:42.640 In today's episode, guys, it is a villain entrance episode 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:44.200 like you maybe have never seen. 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:47.040 I don't know. This is like top tier Game of Thrones. 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:49.000 You might think at the beginning you're tying up a 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:51.040 lot of loose ends, you're just kind of catching up 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:54.360 with people. No, this is all about one man and 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:56.639 we're gonna meet him and you're gonna understand what this 0:00:56.680 --> 0:00:59.720 season is really about and what the true conflict that 0:00:59.840 --> 0:01:02.000 is kind of rearing his head is in a really fun, 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:05.200 over the top way with some great performances. Yes, I 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:10.560 love this episode, Jason, Let's get into it. 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:17.280 We open on Tumbleton, a pleasant market town, kind of 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:25.200 nondescript village in WESTUS. High Tower Troops Ormond High Tower 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:32.040 Troops which invaded the city offscreen last episode, are now 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:36.280 hardening the city against the potential attack from the nearest troops. 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:40.280 They're going door to door, they're taking people's supplies, whatever 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:45.479 they need. Lord and Lady Footley, who are the governors, 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:49.080 the rulers of this city. They protest to Ormond High 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:51.800 Tower about all of this. You know, you're taking over 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:55.240 our house. We don't have anything to do with this war. 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:58.760 We are not warlike people. We're just doing We trade 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:02.640 and we have market days, and this is all very 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:06.720 foreign to us. What are you doing. Ormond is like, well, 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:13.600 you you went for Rania, the usurper queen, and therefore 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:15.440 this is what you get. And Lady Footley is like, well, 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:18.120 Lady Footley, I think rightly points out that, well, you know, 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:22.320 she is the rightful ruler. Ormond then shows off his 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:26.720 dick and says listen, literally like throws his dick on 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:35.040 the table. He's yeah, we're gonna stay here, but we're 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:37.720 going to make sure. I will make sure personally that 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:41.960 our men stay on their best behavior. And this is 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:44.720 our first hint that I think Ormond is a different 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:47.760 you mentioned it. It's a great villain entrance, but he's 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:49.680 a kind of he's a different sort of villain and 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:53.000 that he's got he's got a lot of taste. He 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:57.280 considers himself a refined gentleman, and as we will see 0:02:57.280 --> 0:02:59.519 over the course of this episode, he also has like 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:06.400 an almost the modern politicians understanding of public relations of 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:10.720 doing something because the people would like Jason, but you 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:12.960 don't necessarily need to follow all the way through with 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:14.800 it that you show a public face and then you 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:17.679 show a private face. I am is a so very 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:18.399 subtle thing. 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:21.840 Glad that you pointed this out, because I think that 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:25.640 the most incredible smart thing they have done with Ormond 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:28.920 this episode and with where we find Ranera. Something that 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:32.480 Raniera showed in her reaction to call this last week, 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:34.239 and I have to say, I'm so glad how many 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:35.440 people were on Rehnera's side. 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:37.160 A lot more people were more generous to her. They 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:38.360 were like, call us calm down. 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:40.920 You didn't want to legitimize them till today, and now 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:44.080 you're asking Venera to like you have a bit of patience, right, 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:45.040 That's quite a nice point. 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:46.200 I like the people brought that up. 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:50.640 It's a it's very tough, but I to thing, let's 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:53.520 be real when it comes to pr when it comes 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:56.800 to marketing. When it comes to being the queen that 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:59.440 people want to support, She's not good at that. She's 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:01.720 not good at me those decisions in the moment that 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:04.000 will make people like her. She does not have the 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:07.600 political mindset. She does not have the crisis pr mindset. 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:11.200 Ormond High Tower is a crisis pr man, and I 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:14.200 fucking love that you clock that, Like there is a 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:19.040 modernity and a contemporary eye to the way that he 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:22.240 understands how he has to be seen. And that is 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:27.039 also really fun as essentially like a red herring for 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:29.640 the audience, because he will make choices that we get 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:32.039 into as the episode goes on that makes you think 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:34.839 he is a righteous man, that he at least has 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:37.279 some kind of moral compass, but as you will learn, 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:40.400 it's all about playing to what the audience that he 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:43.080 is kind of in front of needs, and it is 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.039 so fucking cool. 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:46.400 And then when you really. 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:48.039 Get to see who he is by the end of 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:51.120 this episode, you feel like you're getting to see a 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:55.279 top tier Game of Thrones antagonist being introduced, which is 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:58.240 such a fun feeling because so many of the characters 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:00.760 who are antagonists in the show, the ones we've known 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:03.920 from the beginning, right, It's rare to get a new 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:09.240 outside who has agendas and missions and wishes all of 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:11.400 his own that we have no idea about. 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:16.040 We meet the real Darron. He's the brown hair. He 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:19.120 seems like a very sweet guy. A raven from storms 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:24.760 End arrives and Ormond learns that at least one other 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:29.599 great house, the Barrathians of storms End. Boris Barrathian is 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:32.080 staying on the sidelines for now because it's, you know, 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:35.800 unclear who's winning, so why get involved. No word from 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:40.560 heron Hall and Aimond. Of course they need Vagar or 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:42.640 the town really can't be defended because they have no 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:46.800 times of their own. Rania, at a small council meeting, asks. 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:49.599 The world's smallest council, by the way, like it's the 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:51.279 mini council meeting. 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:55.599 Mini council. She's asking her council, like, why why does 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:58.560 Ormond want Tumbleton? Is that there's nothing to it. It's 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:05.800 not strategically important, it's not particularly defendable, you know, what's 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:11.480 what's the deal? And they she figures out kind of 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:18.560 on her own that because Tumbleton went for her in 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:23.800 this civil war, Ormond is essentially daring her to rain 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:28.440 fire on her own supporters, thus turning her supporters against 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:34.839 her and at least and surely making other cities, villages, towns, 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:40.040 noble people, noble families wary of joining up if this 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:43.000 is what they would get for supporting Rania is just 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:49.280 her dragons just burning them down. She also other decisions 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:53.000 made at this small council are or while gets to 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:55.000 stay on, he's done a good job, and what did 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:55.320 he do? 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:59.159 Because he has a great pitch for that is essentially why, right, 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:03.280 like what should you do? So that Ormond's pr to 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:05.440 make her look like a crazy tagarian who would burn 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:09.800 her own supports alwayests like something else, and that's kind 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:12.040 of when she knows, Wait, this guy might actually have 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:12.920 some good ideas. 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:15.560 Yeah, he's like, well, why don't you just, you know, 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:18.120 send the army over there and then you kind of 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:23.160 discriminately send the army in. They'd fight house to house, 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:27.280 but you're not just like burning everybody, And she sounds 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:31.440 like a good idea. After all, the Riverman host that 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:34.520 was that Damon had been a part of, but now 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:38.280 it's you know, Oscar Tully and the winter Wolves is 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:41.120 still rampaging around in the Riverlands just send them over 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:43.960 to Tumbleton and have to take care of it. Meanwhile, 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:51.160 Missaria the white Worm, who is a short term thinker period, dude. 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:54.880 I mean, I love her, but I feel like she 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:59.360 is not coming up with enough. You've got to diversify, babe. 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:01.640 You got to You gotta make it seem like you 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:04.320 don't only have one short time agenda. You gotta be 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:07.120 thinking in the long term. And then you slyly got 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:08.920 to be like give them some food. You can't just 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:10.920 be like give the poor people food all the time. 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:16.680 So the economic you know, situation is still very dire 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:20.520 in the Capitol. There is no gold, food supplies are 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:25.280 running low, and the streets are roiling, and verniers like, 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:26.800 what can we do? What can we do? We need money, 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:30.840 we need food, what can we do? And Misaria comes 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:35.679 up with a plan to name a master of coin, 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:40.080 who can take who can take the blame? This is 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:43.480 like they could just pin the economic collapse on this person. 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:47.040 And it's like literally the most short term thinking thing ever, 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:50.800 Like it's it's a funny I will gladly pay you 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:54.240 Tuesday for a Hamburger today type situation Like this does 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:55.120 not do anything. 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:59.280 Guy, literally just told me said that to me today 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:00.800 bringing up that phrasing. 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:02.480 It's so so true, Jason. 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:04.679 And the other funny thing about it as well, is 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:08.920 I love that Raniera's instant thing is like Torren. 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:10.320 Mandally, She's like, Yeah, I'd love to be. 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:15.600 Yes thereat dinner guy. He's very interesting, he seemed very confident. 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:21.559 Let's pin it on him. Choice to Raniera's discredit, she 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:25.720 agrees to this plan. Uh and and and pitches Torn 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:28.920 Mandally as the guy and so sorry and tells Masaria like, 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:31.000 I need you to check on him, make sure he's 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:34.160 not one's dirty greens, and then let's pin this whole 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:35.600 fucking disaster on him. 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:39.520 I just gotta say, Jason, what was that thing if 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:41.880 you fly on the wall, if you're there right? 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:43.960 We were as we watched it on the TV show, Like, 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:47.800 in what world was there about that interaction at all? 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.160 Anything that made you feel like you should put that 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:52.720 man in charge or even let him into your space. 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:57.080 He basically said, I fucking clocked you. I clocked your plan. 0:09:57.280 --> 0:10:00.080 I think it's a smart plan, and I just I 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.720 think that putting him in charge of anything and giving 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:05.440 him any kind of access is a big mistake. There 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:08.480 was nothing in that interaction that would have made me 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:10.800 make this choice. Do you think Raniera saw something that 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:13.120 wasn't there or you think she's just so overwhelmed that 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:15.560 she's making short term choices based on massari As. 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:17.560 I think it's a yeah, I think it's a short 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:19.880 term choice. I think it's a name. I think it's 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:22.520 a person who has come to her attention recently. I 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:24.920 think there's so many things happening right now and so 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:31.200 many different forces buffeting her that it's just legitimately recency bias. 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:34.480 Like here's this guy, I talked to him. You know, 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.200 now you could make an you can make an argument that, okay, 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:39.679 the Manderly is one of the wealthiest, if not the 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:45.520 wealthiest family in the North. Maybe, you know, like as 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:48.800 part of the deal, like you tap your wealth the 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:51.880 way that Taiwan Lanister's wealth. That's what I was going 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:56.720 to say, Yes, as a bank, as a lender of 0:10:56.800 --> 0:11:00.360 last resort. But it doesn't seem like that that's part 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:04.359 of the plan either. It's just very very poor overall 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:08.480 decision making, sadly from Raniera, who is the is the 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:11.640 rightful ruler. She then goes to see Allison and is like, 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:15.080 what do you know about Ormond? Alison doesn't know that much. 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:18.800 She's like, he's an arrogant guy. He's like Phoebe waller Bridge. 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:20.560 You know, he thinks he's a scholar. He thinks he's 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:24.000 a musician. He thinks he's like a gentleman, and he's 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:27.000 very a feat and you know, he loves the histories. 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:32.160 He's been good towards Darren, she is told, and Alison, 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:35.840 you know, says like I wanted Darren sent away so 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:37.439 that he would be raised as a high tower, not 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:39.160 as a target AI, and that's why he went there. 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:41.280 And guess what, bitch, you got your wish And you're 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:44.280 an idiot. You're a fucking idiot, Allison, and I love you, 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:46.439 but you're a fucking idiot to wish for that. Your 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:48.600 fucking look what you've done. 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:53.720 She further tells Ranera that the thing that we've noticed early, 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:57.080 which is that Ormond has a very very sensitive news. 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:02.840 He's a sniffy guy and he hates the stink. Okay, skink. 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:06.160 I know I was just complaining about her, but I 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:08.480 did love this moment because once again you see at 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:11.400 the end that Allison's like fuck like I didn't give 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:13.440 her anything, Like I need her to know that I 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:15.800 am still more marginally on her side. 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:19.520 And obviously I love that foreshadowing because. 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:23.680 We do see Ormond again and again going back to 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:27.360 those sense and those little kind of mixes that he's making. 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:29.080 So it'll be I would love to see the way 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:30.840 that Rania is gonna be able to use This is 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:34.040 essentially like a weakness of his because it's. 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:35.800 Not really something that we've seen utilized. 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:39.160 I mean scent in general, especially in a show like 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:42.800 Game of Thrones or the Westreist universe House of the Dragon, 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:46.679 where it's kind of so the reality would be so disgusting. 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:49.120 You often don't think about scent. The only thing I 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:51.920 can really think about is the music movie like Perfume 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:53.079 based on the book. 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:54.280 You know, I think. 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:56.720 Something like that, You really think about it, But in 0:12:56.800 --> 0:13:00.000 movies and TV shows aside from like a smell of vision, 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:02.760 and we don't often consider it. So I'm very excited 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:07.280 to see him being tormented by the stenches of kings Landing, 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:10.440 and you know which, there's many stenches in in in 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:12.120 westerns Jason. 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:14.560 It's a stenchy place. 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:15.160 St. 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:20.520 Corlis is leaving the city. He says he's going to 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:23.520 go pursue the triarchy raators who are still kind of 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:27.559 running around on the landscape. Yeah, he doesn't want to 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:29.960 stick around here after you got turned down, and he'd 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:33.760 rather just kill triarchy guys as his form of therapy. 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:35.520 And he tells Alan, why don't you deal with the 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:39.240 queen and if she needs me, No, she needs anything 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:46.600 from House Valarion. You can be the representative of our family. 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:51.600 It's great. Laris and Eggon continue to sneak around. They 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:55.560 find the corpse of Sunfire is very very sad. Eggon 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:59.960 is heartbroken at the sight of his dead dragon. There's 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.760 a guy they're charging like a penny to touch the dragon. 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:06.840 He is very suspicious of these guys, and Laris and 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:12.040 Eggon eventually leave, but not after Eggon insists that the 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:16.360 dragon is alive. Okay, the dragon certainly looks very very dead. 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:18.960 And very rotting and like sort of like, I mean, 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:23.240 it looks okay. So, Jason, I want to ask you 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:26.680 about this because we've kind of talked about what it 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:30.120 means and how much of omen the dragons are seen as, 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:33.680 both negatively and positively. What would it do for the 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:38.760 political kind of status of the small folk to see. 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:41.240 A dead dragon, like, is that like a game changer? 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:41.680 Does it? 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:45.360 Does it insinuate that the faith is rising and the 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:46.400 Tagarians are falling? 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:46.600 Like? 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:48.720 How does it look that that is just in the 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:52.080 middle of a forest kind of and rotting? 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.920 It looks bad, right, I mean dragons have been killed 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:55.960 in battle before. 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:57.240 M hmm. 0:14:57.400 --> 0:15:03.200 But yeah, I mean it's not good now. The good 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:06.600 news for Rania and the Targetians on both sides is 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:10.080 that there are still plenty of dragons. But yeah, it 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:13.200 is among the many forces that are kind of eroding 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:17.720 the idea of Targarian exceptionalism. A dead, rotting dragon in 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:23.000 the woods is like a pretty plunge in analogous symbol 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:23.840 of that. Yeah. 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:24.840 I also want to. 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.000 Say as well, I was screaming at the TV in 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:29.560 this moment because this was fucking Eggon's fault. So go 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:32.880 fuck yourself and your little drunk driving ass ride. That's 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:36.040 the reason your fucking dragon is dead, Like you are 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:38.040 the cause of this, So don't you be sounding there 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:41.160 crying about it Like it made me feel very angry, 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:43.520 like this is your fault, so you're bad dragon Rider. 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:49.560 It was on so Christ and Cole speaking of bad guys. 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:53.480 And GWayne and their very meager army come to heron hall. 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:56.600 It is you know, Aaron continues to be a mess. 0:15:57.040 --> 0:16:02.280 Alice is there, she says, you know, all the Lord 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:05.120 Strong and his whole family are dead and everybody's dead, 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:08.080 and I'm here. I'm kind of like a steward, sort 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:12.320 of like the cook, the property manager, so to speak. 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:15.000 Cole and GWayne of course want to know where Amond is, 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:17.840 and She's like, he's gone. Sorry, oh he's he's gone. 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:21.760 And by the way, have you heard Naran's taking King's landing, 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:25.280 which is shocking to Cole and crew. 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:28.680 Dude, Cole's so upset about it. I love this. I 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:31.560 have to say. I had never dreamed in a million 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:32.240 years that. 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:35.040 I would get to see Kristin Cole get taken down 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:37.280 by Alice Rivers, which is now what I hope and 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:41.800 dream for more than anything. Jason, Is this book accurate 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.320 that they come because we don't know very much about 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:47.400 what happened with Alice and Aimond? But is it book 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:50.280 accurate that they come to Harron Hall and Alice is 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:51.160 there and Aimond does not? 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:52.360 Or is this new. 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:58.760 It's it's accurate ish in the book, Kristen and Amond 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:02.120 retake your bloodlessly the same way. They just kind of 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:08.320 walk in. But when they learn that the Lanister host 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:10.879 was defeated at the at the Fish and Fish Feed 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:19.240 Fish Feed, then uh plans change, and you know, Kristen 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:23.480 has to kind of lead a kind of desperate, uh 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:29.480 Southerly retreat. So it's it's different. It's he does go there, 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:30.800 but it's but in a different way. 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:34.320 I'm very interested in what this means and what we 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:36.560 could see because I feel like this kind of notion 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:40.119 of Alice wanting to take Haaren Hall and then imagining 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:42.560 how pissed off she would be after she just saved 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:45.480 Amon so she could get Haaren Hall. And now they're saying, well, 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:48.600 if you kill Aimond, you get Haren Hall to other people. 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:50.240 I feel like we could really. 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:54.360 Have some fun Alice moments here with Crispy, because he's 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:56.560 also like so fucked up by women. 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:59.639 Also, why do they just believe her that Amon's gone? 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:00.479 That's a big thing. 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:02.760 Do you think that's how witchy magic Like she's kind 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:06.879 of glamoring them a bit, because if I would be suching, 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:08.840 I would be such in the Costle for my camp. 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:11.160 It could be that, well, I'm sure that they are 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:13.080 going to search, like I'm sure that his men are 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:16.680 looking all around at the same time this she does 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:20.560 bring this news of Rania's victory, and that's very, very shocking, 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:28.720 and that would change their priorities, you know, pretty drastically, 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:32.320 because now you're you're against the dragons. You don't know 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:35.200 where Vegar is, you have no you have no cover 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:37.960 from above. And in fact, Kristin Cole because of this, 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:46.760 does change his he's fighting tactics. Like after this, Gawayne suggests, 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:50.520 let's go, why don't we send word to Tumbleton. Yeah, 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:53.600 Ormond is there, join with him. Then we have like 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:57.880 a bigger army and Cole is like, no, you're fucking soft. 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:00.320 You want to sleep in a feather bed. I'm like, 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:03.919 I'm used to sleeping on outside and being a warrior 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:06.520 and slogging through the mud. I am gonna fight on 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:09.720 as long as Vernia is on the throne. And so 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:16.800 instead of marching around in the daylight information, let's to 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:21.080 protect ourselves from the dragons, Let's become like a gorilla insurgency. 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:23.480 We will strike out of the woods and then melt away. 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:27.399 We'll do raids, we'll do quick attacks on supply lines, 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:30.520 and we will avoid these kind of big set piece 0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:33.120 battles where one army is defeated another one is victorious. 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:34.120 Hid it run? 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:36.760 This shit cracks me up so much because what he's 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:40.000 really freaking out about is he backed the wrong horse 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:40.840 once again. 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:44.800 Well he went to at that bro. He doesn't think that. 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:47.080 But this man is just like he just realized his 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:49.919 ex girlfriend is now the king, his ex girlfriend that 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:53.200 he betrayed with her best friend. Like he's fucked and 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:55.760 that's why he came up with this platte because Verniera's 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:59.040 gona fucking kill him if he's still around, Like he's 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:01.240 just scared, and I love it. 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:05.040 I think I don't think he's I think he is. 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:07.840 He says there's no home left for me, like Wavner 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:13.960 is on the throat. True many reasons he's on a suician. 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:16.600 I don't think he's afraid. Really, I think he's very 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:20.720 very angry, and I think that he has been. I 0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:22.880 think he thinks to himself that he's kind of been 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:26.160 used by these more powerful figures, which I don't think 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:29.919 is which I think is correct, and I think he 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:36.440 he considers himself to have agency as a warrior. That's 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:38.679 what he's good at, that's what he knows how to do, 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:44.240 and so therefore he's going to continue doing that because 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:47.320 that's how he's able to rule his own life and 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:51.560 make decisions and that that can continue to have an impact. 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:53.440 And so I think that's why he's doing He's also 0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:55.440 like just very very sad and depressed. 0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:57.000 He is such a sad boy. 0:20:57.040 --> 0:21:00.560 And I love that Rania is looking at her ads 0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:04.760 models of old Valeria. Alan comes to see her and 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:07.840 basically tells her, you know, Corliss is leaving. He's gonna 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:12.560 work on the triarchy issue, and you know you should 0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:15.440 just let him go. Eggan and Laris come within sight 0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:18.480 of Rook's rest and it's just like a bad it's 0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:21.120 a bad scene there. The people are struggling, like. 0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:24.600 Digging through dead bodies, like fighting over dead bodies and stuff. 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:26.280 It's it's nasty times. 0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:30.679 Melisse, the dead dragon of Rainy's Corliss's wife is just 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:32.840 still draped over the walls because how do you move it. 0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:38.320 Some kind of local tough guys come and big time 0:21:38.400 --> 0:21:41.360 Laris and egg On. One of their leaders named Janos 0:21:42.000 --> 0:21:45.160 and Laris has to pay them off to allow them 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:47.240 to stay, and then they have to earn their keep 0:21:47.600 --> 0:21:50.840 with egg On. Now getting a job is like piss 0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:53.120 you know, it's like deputy piss bucket boy. 0:21:53.280 --> 0:21:57.560 Yeah, he's piss bucket boy Junior. He's not happy about it. Also, 0:21:57.600 --> 0:22:01.240 could I say something about Laris. Yeah, he's not great 0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:03.760 on the road. He's glowing up every time we see him. 0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:06.080 He's actually looking bad. Then he used to look when 0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:08.600 he was in King's Landing. So I feel like he's 0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:09.880 just made for this life. 0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:14.040 Well, especially here in Rooks Rest, where it's like, well 0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:18.040 I'm I'm a cripple, so I can't be a pisbucket boy. 0:22:18.080 --> 0:22:20.119